August 21, 2012
— Gabriel Malor Happy Tuesday.
Actually, no, I'm not that happy. I'm rather frustrated that a man that believes that women have magical "ways" to terminate pregnancies is a congressman and actually sought a Senate seat. I know public-school sex ed is a hot topic, but, folks, if parents aren't going to teach about the birds and the bees, well, somebody has to. Akin could most certainly have benefited from an explanation of just how that whole pregnancy thing happens.
I mentioned it on twitter, yesterday, but it bears repeating: Akin's convenient misconception about pregnancy gave him an easy out when it comes to abortion. He gets to take the tough line on abortion -- make it illegal in all cases -- but then sooth his guilty conscience by believing some horseshit about women having ways to nonetheless dispose of an unwanted pregnancy. It's moral cowardice, but I bet you anything Akin thinks he's a martyr.
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Part of Alabama's immigration law that ordered public schools to check the citizenship status of new students was ruled unconstitutional Monday by a federal appeals court that also said police in that state and Georgia can demand papers from criminal suspects they have detained.
The 11th Circuit Court of Appeals ruled that the Alabama schools provision wrongly singles out children who are in the country illegally. Alabama was the only state that passed such a requirement and the 11th Circuit previously had blocked that part of the law from being enforced.
http://is.gd/sRt9ER
Posted by: Vic at August 21, 2012 03:02 AM (YdQQY)
http://is.gd/64lnj0
Posted by: Vic at August 21, 2012 03:03 AM (YdQQY)
Have you ever been to the Capitol and talked to any of these folks, Gabe?
You wouldn't be surprised.
It's amazing how effin' stupid most of them are.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 21, 2012 03:03 AM (sbV1u)
http://is.gd/rYf5AK
Posted by: Vic at August 21, 2012 03:03 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: TheSev at August 21, 2012 03:03 AM (iHeMr)
I'll Never Get Out of This World Alive
Steve Earle's heartbreaking debut novel features a morphine addicted doctor haunted by the ghost of Hank Williams, a Mexican girl with healing powers, and other misfits. Set in San Antonio in 1963, the story delicately balances opposing forces like Catholicism and "hoodoo," addiction and redemption, brutal reality and magical realism.
Posted by: Vic at August 21, 2012 03:03 AM (YdQQY)
Saw one article that said he had bailed out and another that said he had not. The latest article from 1 hour ago said he was still in. Don't know what the current status is. That is pretty much what we expected.
Posted by: Vic at August 21, 2012 03:04 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: Vic at August 21, 2012 03:06 AM (YdQQY)
Thanks, Vic.
It is August and the fodder for most of the news is on recess. Fortunately.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 21, 2012 03:06 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: Gabriel Malor at August 21, 2012 03:07 AM (DhD8T)
Posted by: BurtTC at August 21, 2012 03:07 AM (2pG7H)
Posted by: Vic at August 21, 2012 07:06 AM (YdQQY)
According to Gabe it's the only thing to talk about.
Posted by: Captain Hate (dagny solidarity) at August 21, 2012 03:07 AM (FSiHu)
Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at August 21, 2012 03:08 AM (csi6Y)
Posted by: SurferDoc at August 21, 2012 03:09 AM (6H6FZ)
Posted by: Gabriel Malor at August 21, 2012 07:07 AM (DhD8T)
July and August have always been a slow news cycle. That is why if you are a politician it is best not to open your stupid mouth during these months.
Posted by: Vic at August 21, 2012 03:09 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: sTevo at August 21, 2012 03:10 AM (VMcEw)
He has to go.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 21, 2012 07:07 AM (2pG7H)
Nobody here has any say on whether he goes or stays.
Posted by: Vic at August 21, 2012 03:11 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: Serious Cat at August 21, 2012 03:11 AM (zrpqj)
http://is.gd/15bbpR
Posted by: Vic at August 21, 2012 07:03 AM (YdQQY)
So ABC says more dumbfuck things than Akin does? When do they get their license pulled?
Posted by: Captain Hate (dagny solidarity) at August 21, 2012 03:11 AM (FSiHu)
Posted by: BurtTC at August 21, 2012 03:12 AM (2pG7H)
Posted by: Mr Pink at August 21, 2012 03:12 AM (s19xY)
Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at August 21, 2012 03:12 AM (csi6Y)
Posted by: 66chevelle at August 21, 2012 03:12 AM (QjSgY)
They are going to milk it for all it's worth.
They are now going to tie Akin around every Republicans neck, however tenuous that connection may be.
Posted by: General Woundwort at August 21, 2012 03:13 AM (06lNq)
According to one story I saw his poll numbers (quick poll) have not changed. His finances took a big hit though from the RNC and one of the PACs.
Posted by: Vic at August 21, 2012 03:13 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: BurtTC at August 21, 2012 03:13 AM (2pG7H)
Posted by: Mr Pink at August 21, 2012 07:12 AM (s19xY)
I didn't see that at any of the news site????? (Not surprising)
I'll hunt for it.
Posted by: Vic at August 21, 2012 03:14 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: dogfish at August 21, 2012 03:15 AM (N2yhW)
Posted by: Serious Cat at August 21, 2012 03:15 AM (DRG6e)
of this campaign. Or at least enough of one that it may effect the
outcome of the Presidential race and/or the balance in the Senate.
Because you lickspittles are making it the issue of the campaign, and of Romney's campaign. Romney said, "Meh, Missouri, the guy's an asshole, I don't hold those views at all, let's get back to the debt" and you all kept going ON and ON and ON and fucking ON.
The Left and the MFM say, "Jump, you brain-dead Neanderthal cousin-humpers!" and the conservative media/bloggers say, "OH! THANK YOU FOR NOTICING US!!!"
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at August 21, 2012 03:16 AM (hO8IJ)
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at August 21, 2012 03:17 AM (UTq/I)
Posted by: San Antonio Rose at August 21, 2012 03:17 AM (Q4N/v)
The up side for the Dem is that no impregnating and aborting going on. Not an endorsement.
Posted by: sTevo at August 21, 2012 03:17 AM (VMcEw)
It's a waste of good bacon. Offal would have worked just as well.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at August 21, 2012 03:17 AM (hO8IJ)
Zero mentions on the main news sites
Hey did you know a gay whackjob went into a conservative organization
and shot a security guard and admitted he did it for idealogical and politcal reason?
If you were looking at news sites you would never know that happened just last week.
Posted by: General Woundwort at August 21, 2012 03:18 AM (06lNq)
Posted by: Tsar Nicholas II at August 21, 2012 03:20 AM (r2PLg)
Posted by: Krystal Ball at August 21, 2012 03:21 AM (2J4Qq)
Posted by: Mr Pink at August 21, 2012 07:12 AM (s19xY)
I have not a gay in me, I just canÂ’t stand the hate, you know. It gotta stop. ItÂ’s gotta stop, guys. Stand up.
Posted by: Adam Smith at August 21, 2012 03:22 AM (QjSgY)
and shot a security guard and admitted he did it for idealogical and political reason? Posted by: General Woundwort at August 21, 2012 07:18 AM (06lNq)
Gay liberals.....those are the really tolerant people, right?
/sarc
Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 21, 2012 03:22 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: BP NJ at August 21, 2012 03:22 AM (ph70Q)
Why in the world would you have a legitimate expectation that the Minnesota story would get more coverage than Akin? Let's consider:
(1) Kerry Gauthier is a state legislator. In other words, he's a nobody. He's barely known in his own district. Unless you live in his district, why should anyone care?
(2) Both the MN GOP and the MN Dems have condemned him. It's unanimous. So, what's the story hook? It looks like he's going down without a fight and everyone on both sides of the aisle want him out. That's not a sexy story at all.
By contrast, Akin is:
(1) Running for the Senate. The Senate that we need to take if we want to repeal Obamacare and control the judicial noms for the next four years. That's kinduva big deal, yaknow?
(2) Putting up a fight. He's making a ruckus, and leading us to believe that he really will risk the future of this country for his ego. That's a hella sexy story to cover.
So the idea that a small potatoes MN representative should get more coverage than Akin is the saddest naivete.
Posted by: Gabriel Malor at August 21, 2012 03:22 AM (DhD8T)
Posted by: Truman North, iPhone rapscallion at August 21, 2012 03:23 AM (t/RU3)
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at August 21, 2012 03:23 AM (UTq/I)
Posted by: dogfish at August 21, 2012 07:15 AM (N2yhW)
SCOTUS killed that one a long long time ago with Plyler v Doe.
Posted by: Vic at August 21, 2012 03:23 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: Captain Hate (dagny solidarity) at August 21, 2012 07:07 AM
I'm sure commenters at the HQ will agree. It brings out the primal poo-flinging reflex, y'know.
Would be nice if we could get back to the central issue of today, and every day until Nov. 7th, which is the necessity for a crushing defeat of the America-hating shitweasel in the White House, and the removal of his co-conspirators from power.
Posted by: MrScribbler at August 21, 2012 03:23 AM (wZI4b)
Posted by: Andy at August 21, 2012 03:25 AM (OZPoa)
Posted by: DangerGirl on her DangerPhone at August 21, 2012 03:25 AM (4z+35)
If you for one second think that if the parties were reversed we wouldn't be hearing about that night and day, then you are more deluded than I thought.
Posted by: General Woundwort at August 21, 2012 03:25 AM (06lNq)
Posted by: dogfish at August 21, 2012 03:27 AM (N2yhW)
Posted by: TJexcite at August 21, 2012 03:27 AM (PNDql)
Because you lickspittles are making it the issue of the campaign, and of Romney's campaign. Romney said, "Meh, Missouri, the guy's an asshole, I don't hold those views at all, let's get back to the debt" and you all kept going ON and ON and ON and fucking ON.
The Left and the MFM say, "Jump, you brain-dead Neanderthal cousin-humpers!" and the conservative media/bloggers say, "OH! THANK YOU FOR NOTICING US!!!"
<<<<><
Right on. Yesterday even OBAMA said *of course* he doesn't think Romney and Ryan share the same views. He said that Akin "was nominated by the Missouri Republican Party and Missouri Republicans will handle it."
The fucking SCOAMF herself is giving Romney a fucking pass and everyone is trying on sackcloth sundresses.
Grow a pair, already.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 21, 2012 03:27 AM (JDIKC)
Posted by: DangerGirl on her DangerPhone at August 21, 2012 03:28 AM (4z+35)
Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at August 21, 2012 03:28 AM (csi6Y)
Sorry to inject reality into your world, but you know Malor writes for national print outlets and Ace gets read by Rush and NRO and a half-dozen pinko outlets?
(Did you see him on Twitter last night? He all but told Republicans to not bother in November, because one guy in fucking Missouri said one stupid thing on a weekend. )
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at August 21, 2012 03:28 AM (hO8IJ)
And people wonder why I prefer living in old Hollywood to the SCOAMF's America.
I think you've called it, Gabe. Akin is one of those time-servers who is convinced they are more important to the country than to the party. He'll hang on until the last dog is hung.
Anyway. . .thanks for the news and good morning, Moron Horde. Just a short story today, with a little lead-in:
We sometimes forget that grandma and grandpa enjoyed a little horizontal mambo when they were young. And also, there's the famous cliche that every advancement in technology is driven by prOn. The movies are no different.
For example, the 1890's-era "motion studies" by Eadweard Muybridge, though purporting to illustrate anatomy, found it necessary to use naked women running, jumping or bending over. And some of the earliest Edison flickers were sex-centered, such as Fatima The Dancing Lady, The Gay Shoe Clerk or Annabelle Butterfly Dance. The earliest known stag picture, A Free Ride, dates from 1915, while mutoscope machines for years had worn-out reels of "tease films" such as What The Butler Saw, while studios like Biograph, Pathe and Keystone always seemed to find time in their schedules to put out shorts where women in nightgowns ran around in pillow fights.
All of which is to say that a glimpse of stocking was as much titillating as shocking, and leads into our story. It's apocryphal, and the name of the studio as well as the titles of the first two films change depending on who's doing the telling. But here it is for a little chuckle:
It seems that one day in the early 1910s, the president of Vitagraph Studios was going over the week's box office receipts. They'd sent a few shorts out to the nickelodeons and now the prexy was trying to find out which ones were the most popular.
One page of the ledger read:
The Black Diamond Express: $.35
Whaler Off The Maine Coast: $.15
Girl Climbing Apple Tree: $2.50
Turning to his director, the president said, "I think we'd better make more of those 'Girl Climbing Apple Tree' flicks."
Hey, I never said it was a great story.
Hope you all have a wonderful day.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 21, 2012 03:28 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: Laura Castellano at August 21, 2012 03:29 AM (fuw6p)
Posted by: Vic at August 21, 2012 03:29 AM (YdQQY)
Laugh it up fuzzball.
All it takes is for the MSM/Libs to get the right angle on something then it's off to the races.
Remember Mark Foley?
Jack Abramhoff gave equally to both Dems and Repubs but he was effectively tied to the Republican Party.
I could go on and on but all it takes is one fuckup and we are digging out from the crap storm, while dick heads like Patches Kennedy can run fucking people over with his car and get a higher percentage of the vote in his next election.
Posted by: General Woundwort at August 21, 2012 03:29 AM (06lNq)
Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at August 21, 2012 03:30 AM (csi6Y)
Posted by: Vic at August 21, 2012 03:31 AM (YdQQY)
Precisely.
Posted by: Chariots of Toast at August 21, 2012 03:31 AM (ksERZ)
Since Steve Earle survived being one of the biggest drug addicted soaks in history I'm guessing this role is somewhat autobiographical. Except for the doctor part...
Posted by: Captain Hate (dagny solidarity) at August 21, 2012 03:31 AM (FSiHu)
Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at August 21, 2012 03:31 AM (csi6Y)
Posted by: dogfish at August 21, 2012 03:32 AM (N2yhW)
Posted by: SurferDoc at August 21, 2012 03:32 AM (6H6FZ)
Posted by: sven10077 at August 21, 2012 03:34 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at August 21, 2012 03:34 AM (csi6Y)
Posted by: Wyatt's Torch at August 21, 2012 03:34 AM (IS2o0)
Posted by: Mr Pink at August 21, 2012 03:35 AM (s19xY)
Aaannnnd... Nope.
No acknowledgement of the fact that Barky dismissed this non event as localized to Missouri. It's much more fun to fantasize about how One Man Brought The Death of Freedom.
Which I find to be even more scientifically invalid than magical vaginas.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 21, 2012 03:36 AM (JDIKC)
Pre-code movies are shocking to watch by how explicit they are, especially since there's this lovely myth that everything was all repressed and demure and whatnot. Not so much.
Hell, go look at print ads from the late 1800's into the early 1900's and you'll see all kinds of ads for devices to help women deal with stress and hysteria aka vibrator ads. Many of those wouldn't be allowed to hit print today. Every generation thinks it's the first to discover sex. Every generation is wrong.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at August 21, 2012 03:37 AM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at August 21, 2012 03:37 AM (csi6Y)
Posted by: Mr Pink at August 21, 2012 03:37 AM (s19xY)
We face a M$M in such open collusion with the needs of "Duh Wun" what we do on the story is immaterial. They will happily run nothing but Akin/War on Wimminz/Romney is a Tax Cheat until the day after the election if need be. Sequester, South China Sea, UE3/6, 5.2 trillion in New Debt when Obamacles ran as a fiscal hawk?
Nah instead let's all try to smear the GOP as the Huckabee party, but somehow nobody is responsible over on that left wing for saying Romney is a Time Traveller who gives women cancer and singelhandedly drains the swamp of money trhough nonpayment of taxes.
If things ever do go tits up the media better pray they are not in the right's hobo camp.
Posted by: sven10077 at August 21, 2012 03:38 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at August 21, 2012 03:39 AM (csi6Y)
Posted by: The Chicken at August 21, 2012 03:40 AM (qZXps)
Posted by: sven10077 at August 21, 2012 07:38 AM (LRFds)
Nothing short of their lifeless heads hanging from lampposts will be acceptable.
Posted by: Captain Hate (dagny solidarity) at August 21, 2012 03:40 AM (FSiHu)
That is all true, and it sucks but go look at Morning Joe. Mika had her first orgasm all season this morning. The donkeys have been laying the "war on women" mem for 2-3 months now and there is Mike Huckabee's God squad on cue hopping in with a pogo stick. Akin should not be destroyed because of his stupidity on reproductive systems, he should be forced out because he is another addle-brained pol who thinks the media will ever give him a fair shake.
Claire was his biggest bundler Mr. Pink.
I think Huckabee gets a check from the DNC.
Posted by: sven10077 at August 21, 2012 03:41 AM (LRFds)
The correct answer is: "to make me look mean, bigoted, cold, patriarchal (if male), menopausal (if female), homophobic, stupid, or any combination thereof".
Until a Republican candidate can grasp that basic fact, and craft an interview persona that can deal with it, it's not worth wasting money on him/her.
Posted by: Nighthawk at August 21, 2012 03:41 AM (RSqz2)
Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at August 21, 2012 03:42 AM (csi6Y)
Posted by: Captain Hate (dagny solidarity) at August 21, 2012 03:42 AM (FSiHu)
You're not in charge of the narrative and what you say means NOTHING unless it is to immediately refute the ignorant stupid , essentially authoritarian bozos such as Akin that somehow the nominating process manages to throw up, in case after case. Stop complaining about the unfairness of the playing field and start weeding out the crappy players. The real problem is how a man like Akin ever got to where he is today. He's an IDIOT.
Social conservatism is going to kill you in the end. It's follies make every other legitimate issue(like MONEY) just ---- disappear.
Isn't that obvious by this point ?
Posted by: Dougf at August 21, 2012 03:43 AM (aHnDq)
I hate the sun, have a scar over my left eye and prolonged exposure without sunglasses hurts it. If I bitch at the sun from dawn to dusk I may fool myself into thinking I "won the argument" The sun somehow always makes it back the next day.
I'm not "soft" in my conservatism but faith, and politics are supposed to be in separate luggage. Yes you wear things from both, but you shouldn't pack everything in one bag. Akin like Huckabuck brings his bible where he needs his law books.
Posted by: sven10077 at August 21, 2012 03:44 AM (LRFds)
But what you're overlooking is the fact that what O says means nothing, since the O campaign (in 2008 and 2012) is *infamous* for its good cop/ bad cop routine. Obama gets to pretend that he's keeping to the moral high ground, spouting all the "civility" crap, while his surrogates are shamelessly flinging shit and mostly getting a pass for it (or being assisted) by the MSM. And then of course he/ they shamelessly lie about that (like Obama saying 'oh we never claimed Romney was a felon, we never suggested he was responsible for a woman's life, that's a nasty lie by nasty Republicans).
So in one measly press conference Obama says Akin is limited to Missouri. That won't stop PAC ads, the media, Obama surrogates and DNC flacks and libs on every talk show and any other venue imaginable, from tying Akin to Republicans at large (and e.g. Ryan specifically). That's how they roll.
Posted by: lael at August 21, 2012 03:45 AM (GMdhU)
Let RINOs like Malor have their time in the sun. <<<<
He's not a RINO. I just think he's wrong some of the time. And he certainly isn't as shrill as the rest of them on Akin.
Now, DrewM? THAT is a fucking RINO.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 21, 2012 03:45 AM (JDIKC)
I take a hardline on abortion and I feel ABSOLUTELY no "guilt"; what a monumentally stupid thing to say, Gabriel.
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at August 21, 2012 03:45 AM (KL49F)
Posted by: Mr Pink at August 21, 2012 03:45 AM (s19xY)
Posted by: Vic at August 21, 2012 07:31 AM (YdQQY)
Also turned "I'm Coming, Virginia" into a smash hit.
Posted by: 66chevelle at August 21, 2012 03:45 AM (QjSgY)
Posted by: Icedog at August 21, 2012 03:46 AM (9ScGj)
Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at August 21, 2012 03:46 AM (csi6Y)
Posted by: Vic at August 21, 2012 07:06 AM (YdQQY)
What we should be talking about is that MN congressman caught in a sex act with an underage boy! Talk about it to death just like the MSM does to conservatives.
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at August 21, 2012 03:46 AM (KL49F)
Posted by: Miss Marple at August 21, 2012 03:48 AM (GoIUi)
Legitimate rape rep. urged to quit
Akin a no-show for Piers Morgan
Akin asks for 'forgiveness' in new ad
Ticker: GOP plans anti-abortion platform
Opinion: Pregnant by rape? Of Course
Responses: Obama, Romney
Yoder: Sorry for naked swim in Galilee
Obama-friendly CEO gave to Paul Ryan
Ryan mocks Biden over flub
Posted by: General Woundwort at August 21, 2012 03:48 AM (06lNq)
Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at August 21, 2012 03:48 AM (csi6Y)
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Thank you Heather. I was just thinking the same thing. The MSNBC news screen pops up when I go to my email. I checked it the first thing this morning and didn't see anything about Akin. But I come here and it's all Akin, all the time.
Babysitting the grandkids today so I get to skip the renting of garments and gnashing of teeth for a while and go do something more enjoyably productive.
Posted by: mama winger in Paul Ryan's district at August 21, 2012 03:48 AM (P6QsQ)
Plausible Deniability Jeff.
That way when we counterbattery giggles with somethin "as if" he can say er uh "local matter" and the newsies will happily move back to how Barry Goldwater wanting to use nukes in 'nam is a sin the GOP must still be punished for.
I hate the media, lost in all this is that one of the few stands you can find Barack taking on controversy in his salad days is standing between police reports and "letting the babies I do not want my daughter punished with dying in linen closets".
I could fill the Grand Canyon with tears from my rage at the inequity, but it does not change the lay of the battlefield.
Posted by: sven10077 at August 21, 2012 03:48 AM (LRFds)
Without mentioning any names (because it really is a universal problem) I don't think the RNC should spend a single dime to support any candidate until that candidate can correctly answer the question: "What is the media's purpose in interviewing you?"
The correct answer is: "to make me look mean, bigoted, cold, patriarchal (if male), menopausal (if female), homophobic, stupid, or any combination thereof".
Until a Republican candidate can grasp that basic fact, and craft an interview persona that can deal with it, it's not worth wasting money on him/her
Posted by: Popcorn at August 21, 2012 03:49 AM (OOehk)
Posted by: Serious Cat at August 21, 2012 07:11 AM (zrpqj)
People on twitter were posting that they'd sent him $50 and such. Grassroots came through for Cain in the midst of his cheating scandals.
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at August 21, 2012 03:49 AM (KL49F)
So in one measly press conference Obama says Akin is limited to Missouri. That won't stop PAC ads, the media, Obama surrogates and DNC flacks and libs on every talk show and any other venue imaginable, from tying Akin to Republicans at large (and e.g. Ryan specifically). That's how they roll.
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That's why he gave you the fucking soundbite - so you could play it back.
Why don't you go lay down on your fainting couch? I think the stress is getting to you.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 21, 2012 03:49 AM (JDIKC)
Posted by: BurtTC at August 21, 2012 03:50 AM (2pG7H)
Posted by: DangerGirl on her DangerPhone at August 21, 2012 03:50 AM (4z+35)
Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at August 21, 2012 07:12 AM (csi6Y)
How did he "double down" on it? He said he mispoke and apologized. Not exactly "doubling down".
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at August 21, 2012 03:50 AM (KL49F)
When candidates campaign for national office, they need to attend RNC prep clinics. If all else fails, STFU before you say the wrong thing. Better to remain ambivalent or silent, to say you're looking into that subject, than be absolutely wrong with no foundation for ignorant stupidity.
The qualified Republican platform preached must play out in policy. So far, the "qualified" Republican Leadership remain McCain, Graham, McConnell and Boehner. And their platform is biggest government is bestest (for themselves if not you saps). Romney's different? consider how he preempted Ryan's Roadmap for America, nipped in the bud erasing all specifics, back to the nebulous realm "that we believe in".
Social issues aren't settled at all with any truce, even within the Republican Party, given the GOP '12 campaign objective to repeal ObamaCare (as if that promise amounts to anything beyond pretense) and replace that with "affordable" but still mandated (Romney) public healthcare. Repeal? McCain's Republicans who want to make all vitamins, mineral supplements and over the counter remedies require a doctor's prescription will repeal ObamaCare? Whatever is revised will only be cosmetic most likely.
Posted by: panzernashorn at August 21, 2012 03:51 AM (BAnPT)
Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at August 21, 2012 03:51 AM (csi6Y)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at August 21, 2012 03:51 AM (9TTOe)
Posted by: Popcorn at August 21, 2012 03:52 AM (OOehk)
Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 21, 2012 03:52 AM (ZJNI6)
Posted by: thunderb at August 21, 2012 03:52 AM (Dnbau)
Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at August 21, 2012 03:52 AM (csi6Y)
Posted by: toby928© Ravel Rouser at August 21, 2012 03:53 AM (QupBk)
....and if grasshoppers carried machine guns, birds wouldn't fuck with 'em.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 21, 2012 03:53 AM (sbV1u)
I couldn't pick out what you're trying to say, Sven, so I'll just reprint this dude's line:
"All this handwringing is a waste of time. If enough Americans vote for Obama based on the fact of a dumbass comment made by a dumbass senate candidate, then we're done as a nation."
Likewise: ONE Senator will not get Obamacare repealed for us. We have MANY unreliable Republicans in the Senate. It was never likely that this asshole would be the deciding vote.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 21, 2012 03:54 AM (JDIKC)
But there's no question Akin revs up the Dem base, and he's a real handy way to disgust and repel low-information voters from the GOP. Especially in an election when Ryan actually seems to have a chance to move some of the youth demographic our way, and we're chipping away at the gender gap, the GOP gets stuck with a guy who fulfills some of the very worst most repellent stereotypes of what the GOP is (especially repellent to women and the young).
And the prospect of Obamacare staying entrenched because we don't get the Senate (even if we got the presidency) fills me with deep, deep dread and despair.
Posted by: lael at August 21, 2012 03:54 AM (GMdhU)
and how many times has our "superstar team" of leadership pointed out that Georgetown's Campus Bike should get her own horizontal gymnastics pills like every other generation thus far let alone that Mrs. Fluck can skip the 90 fold markup? Our guys are way too wrapped up in playing a game nobody rewards them for anymore.
The GOP needs a lot of new blood assuming there is even a Republic left to save in 4-8 years.
Posted by: sven10077 at August 21, 2012 03:55 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: asdf at August 21, 2012 03:55 AM (7bdKn)
Posted by: Icedog at August 21, 2012 03:55 AM (9ScGj)
Posted by: panzernashorn at August 21, 2012 03:55 AM (BAnPT)
Posted by: Robviously at August 21, 2012 03:56 AM (oG/rt)
Posted by: soothsayer at August 21, 2012 03:56 AM (xVKk3)
Posted by: Mr Pink at August 21, 2012 03:56 AM (s19xY)
http://youtu.be/WANNqr-vcx0
Posted by: derit at August 21, 2012 03:56 AM (ruiF1)
Bullshit you twit.
It's moral cowardice, to hold the sin of the sperm launcher against the child.
It's moral cowardice, to hide from the obvious that a rape exception would promote lying about rape.
It's moral cowardice, to think you can somehow appease the DEMSM like it was a volcano by throwing one sloppy speaking socon to them.
This episode has been disgusting here at AOSHQ from the 1st panic probably til blog-hell freezes over.
Posted by: DaveA at August 21, 2012 03:56 AM (Ve9V9)
Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at August 21, 2012 03:57 AM (csi6Y)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at August 21, 2012 03:57 AM (uhAkr)
I don't think it matters now whether Akin stays in or drops out: the Left is like a rabid dog about this now and they will scream about it with their hair on fire no matter what. For that reason alone, Akin should just stay in.
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at August 21, 2012 03:57 AM (KL49F)
Posted by: BurtTC at August 21, 2012 03:57 AM (2pG7H)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at August 21, 2012 03:58 AM (9TTOe)
I did not think I was being that Cryptic Jeff.
ANYTHING stupid our caucus does that can gap Obama any opportunity to easily fire up his retard base of people so dumb they could not pass a citizenship test is bad. The Republic hangs by maybe two threads, and we have a generation of ignorant American Idol nation brainwashed fools who will not notice the fruits of capitalism until they are gone. That Mike Huckabuck may be the feather that tickles loose the sword of Obamacles hanging over Liberty's head is proof God if in fact he is intervening has a wicked wicked sense of humor.
Posted by: sven10077 at August 21, 2012 03:58 AM (LRFds)
I was a loyal Reagan voter and usually voted Republican but in 1990 Clayton Williams made me so mad that I voted for Ann Richards. Nothing pisses off a woman faster than a man mouthing off about rape. Up to his remark, he had been leading by over ten points.
If I were a MO Republican, I'd put the female candidate up against McCaskill, and fast.
Posted by: 56 and loving RR at August 21, 2012 03:58 AM (e9kQC)
Yes, and we needed Sharon Angle's and Christine ODonnell's votes as well.
Akin just needs to say, "I was wrong. I stand corrected." Then it IS water under the bridge since he's asking for forgiveness.
Posted by: panzernashorn at August 21, 2012 03:59 AM (BAnPT)
Vic and AtC - I'll have to write about Arbuckle some day, though one of these morning posts hardly does justice to the story. The poor bastard was railroaded by the DA and abandoned by his studio. And despite the legends about the dead girl, Virginia Rappe (one being that she infected the entire Keystone studio with crabs, requiring Mack Sennett to have the place fumigated), she too comes off as an abused, exploited starlet. Which is SOP for Hollywood.
If you haven't seen them, rent or buy TCM's Forbidden Hollywood collections, featuring all pre-Code films. The one that always gets me is Baby Face, where it is very obvious that Barbara Stanwyck is sleeping her way to the top (of course, it doesn't hurt that she's very bunk-worthy in the movie, too). A very well-written flick; see it if you can.
I think over the weekend I'll dig into my books and find a few stories about the pre-Code days and how studios sailed as close to the wind as they dared.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 21, 2012 03:59 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: Robviously at August 21, 2012 04:00 AM (oG/rt)
Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at August 21, 2012 04:00 AM (csi6Y)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at August 21, 2012 04:00 AM (9TTOe)
His opinion on abortion restrictions is not stupid. It may be a minority position, but it's not stupid. His opinion that the female body can stop pregnancy in rape was extremely stupid. His behavior after the fact is what should disqualify him from running because he's made it apparent that it's about him and what he wants when it should be about removing an Obama flunky from office. It's time for this guy to fall on his sword.
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at August 21, 2012 04:01 AM (JxMoP)
Posted by: Greg's Mom at August 21, 2012 04:02 AM (iy7de)
absolutely agree
guys and gals look if you ever have insomnia, can't sand total silence, or want to learn to mock the voices of Congress listen to or watch C-span....
the guy is an idiot, he is not by any means the dumbest, but he is in the top 1/4th of our caucus.
We here at AoS laugh our asses off at "will it see our flag on mars" and "guam may tip over" but Joe six pack because The Daily Show doesn't harp on it misses it.
Posted by: sven10077 at August 21, 2012 04:02 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Icedog at August 21, 2012 04:02 AM (9ScGj)
Posted by: nickless at August 21, 2012 04:02 AM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at August 21, 2012 04:02 AM (azHfB)
Was yesterday the first time you'd ever paid attention to Obama? His MO has *always* been to play the nice guy who is "above it all" while literally everyone else around him flings as much shit as they can<<<<<
Fucking nonsense. Obama plays the nice guy? Get back to Hot Air with that bullshit.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 21, 2012 04:03 AM (JDIKC)
I hope you're right. The college age girls here in my little corner of Indiana were fired up....well the ones that could see straight anyway. We had Barry so on the ropes, if all this fires up is the NOW gang we're ok but if the media goes full Jar jar it could be bad.
Posted by: sven10077 at August 21, 2012 04:04 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at August 21, 2012 04:04 AM (csi6Y)
It's much better out of the horse's mouth than the "reporters" would let on.
His former misstatement is his own embarrassment, not ours. He says that rape is an evil act, and he apologizes for his words that were mistaken.
Good. Done.
Posted by: panzernashorn at August 21, 2012 04:04 AM (BAnPT)
Old and Busted: Race Card
New Hotness: Rape Card
The problem with Akin goes beyond losing an easily winnable Senate seat, which is obviously bad enough. He will be an unbelievable distraction. We can stop talking about it, but the libs and their media allies sure won't.
How many times will we hear, "The Republican candidate from Missouri believes..." This has already brought back the "forcible rape" canard from the abortion-funding bill. "Congressman Ryan, you voted with Congrssman Akin to ban poor women not 'forcibly' raped from obtaining abortions. Why are Republicans pro-rape?"
It's a friggin nightmare. Pray he gets out today.
Posted by: Martin at August 21, 2012 04:04 AM (iEea3)
Posted by: thunderb at August 21, 2012 04:05 AM (Dnbau)
Posted by: MSM at August 21, 2012 04:06 AM (9TTOe)
why it's *almost* like there is a strong desire on the part of the Media/Academic/Democrat crime family to keep Claire's favorite Republican in the race through poll fu to try to sway Low Information GOP voters into thinking "wow its ok we got this".
Posted by: sven10077 at August 21, 2012 04:06 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: sb at August 21, 2012 04:06 AM (80w08)
It matters if he steps down and FAST.
He's an idiot. Do you have any idea what it's been like to have McCaskill at the helm in our state for six years? Total nightmare. As a state, we deserve better representation and not the choice between "Idiot #1" and "Idiot #2". As a country, you can betyersweet*** as that ths will indeed be hung around the neck of every rep running this election cycle. All the DNC has to do is to replay his stupid comments over and over across the nation while the bobbleheads say 'see, this is what the right thinks'.
Btw, I tried to send him an email telling him thus and got a failure message in my inbox. I'm calling his offices this am.
Posted by: tired at August 21, 2012 04:07 AM (wWFt6)
Posted by: Popcorn at August 21, 2012 07:52 AM (OOehk)
You're talking about two different polling outfits, they aren't comparable. PPP in May found Akin 1 point ahead of McCaskill & PPP found him 1 point ahead last night. Those stats are comparable since they're from the same outfit.
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at August 21, 2012 04:07 AM (KL49F)
All I meant was that most legitimate rapes involve anal intercourse and everybody knows you can't get pregnant from that. I mean, I always do the butt when I rape, doesn't everybody?
See? How is that offensive? sheesh some people.
Posted by: US Senate Nominee Todd Akin at August 21, 2012 04:07 AM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at August 21, 2012 04:08 AM (csi6Y)
Obama is not a nice guy. Nor has he ever been a nice guy. He's a condescending, narcissistic prick.
He occasionally plays a nice guy on TV, but only when it's obvious that the Chicago-thug persona has hit its temporary expiration date. Then he morphs, temporarily, until the storm passes.
He has no core principles except the glorification of his ego, that's what enables him to turn this shit on and off. By any means necessary.
It's why Romney and Ryan need to get under his skin. JEF can't let assaults to his ego pass, and he will get ugly on the campaign trail. Romney and Ryan need to help him do that. Nothing will convince the fence sitters that Obama is NOT their guy more than watching him lose his shit, live and in technicolor.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 21, 2012 04:09 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: thunderb at August 21, 2012 04:09 AM (Dnbau)
Posted by: DangerGirl on her DangerPhone at August 21, 2012 04:09 AM (dfp3p)
McCaskell is actually advocating for him to stay in
PPP is magically oversampling pubs to make him seem more popular than he is
Sure, he should stay in. They would use him against us, would they. Right"
And you know there must also be mobys ("true conservatives") encouraging Akin to stay in.
FFS, the DNC spent millions of dollars to ensure that Akin won the primaries. They're not going to let that investment go to waste now.
Posted by: lael at August 21, 2012 04:10 AM (GMdhU)
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at August 21, 2012 07:46 AM (KL49F)
Technically he was not underage and it was "consensual" which is why he is not being prosecuted.
And one more thing on Akin and I will not post anymore on him. If he had been a Dumbocrat none of us would have ever heard about this stupid little local interview. The MFM would not have picked it up and it would have been buried under a ton of turkey shit waiting for distribution in an Alabama corn field.
Posted by: Vic at August 21, 2012 04:10 AM (YdQQY)
And McCaskill is begging him to stay in because if he stays, she'll win reelection in a landslide now. The last thing that she wants is for Steelman to get in and have to run a real campaign. This makes it so that she doesn't have to do anything at all.
McCaskill probably drank champagne as dinner last night.
Posted by: tired at August 21, 2012 04:10 AM (wWFt6)
Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at August 21, 2012 04:10 AM (5PkZK)
Gabe is right. A locally-elected state representative making moronic decisions is nowhere near equivalent to a U.S. Senate candidate making on of the all-time stupidest statements. Sure, the MFM will ignore it unless it was an R, but we can't control that and bemoaning the fact does very little to change it.
Posted by: Zombie John Gotti at August 21, 2012 04:11 AM (Gkhxf)
I dislike abortion but I do not think running the 20% held opinion up the flagpole of our party as THE HILL when the economy is in stagnated flames starting to head back down is the right call.
The abortion train has 39 years of indoctrinated momentum we need to take waht we can and use power to remove federal funding from PP and defang the NEA from dripping moonbat poison into our kids.
Posted by: sven10077 at August 21, 2012 04:11 AM (LRFds)
Sven, it wasn't cryptic, just poorly worded.
Time to take a break from AoSHQ until this panic is over. Getting too annoyed at the fucking whining.
Talk to y'all later.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 21, 2012 04:11 AM (JDIKC)
Obviously, these things have ripple effects.
Missouri has turned from an almost certain pickup to a very difficult one, Sure, Akin could still possibly win, but it would take more resources than it would have otherwise. A lot more. And those are resources that could be better used elsewhere.
So, the GOP has to make the calculus. Do we go balls-out for a 25% chance of a win or just write it off and put that money and effort elsewhere?
Posted by: Martin at August 21, 2012 04:11 AM (iEea3)
Posted by: thunderb at August 21, 2012 04:12 AM (Dnbau)
Posted by: phoenixgirl, team dagny at August 21, 2012 04:12 AM (Ho2rs)
Posted by: Robviously at August 21, 2012 04:12 AM (oG/rt)
Actually, no, I'm not that happy. I'm rather frustrated that a man that believes that women have magical "ways" to terminate pregnancies
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Considering Akin never said "terminate pregnancies" and that you're gay and will never have a baby, perhaps you should stop commenting?
I mean, not being silly & ignorant kind of means you have a command of the facts.
You do not.
Posted by: Jay at August 21, 2012 04:13 AM (3LaGb)
Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 21, 2012 07:52 AM (ZJNI6)
That would explain a lot. However, I bet whatever she has is not as bad as what he just said. If Akin bails today, we may never know.
Posted by: 66chevelle at August 21, 2012 04:13 AM (QjSgY)
and she bragged about it the NYT, and he WILL NOT see reality because he is "hiding" in his faith....
Huckabuck is on the DNC payroll.
Posted by: sven10077 at August 21, 2012 04:13 AM (LRFds)
Just a thought...junkies such as ourselves on both sides already know how they are going to vote. Its the uninitiated that the Akin story has to reach, by the time these people catch wind of this they'll be too busy sending kids off to school and soccer practice. The pool of head-in-the-sanders is even smaller in MO.
The problem will be name recognition in the event of an Akin replacement. McAsskill has been round a long time, the head-in-the-sanders will recognize it and vote accordingly. I just hope there is enough time for a replacement to make his/her case.
Posted by: dananjcon at August 21, 2012 04:13 AM (eavT+)
I blame mostly Huckabee and Democrat shenanigans for Akin's victory, and only Akin is to blame for what he said. He doesn't represent social conservatives to me. Unfortunately, the MSM will try to make him representative.
Posted by: lael at August 21, 2012 04:13 AM (GMdhU)
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at August 21, 2012 04:13 AM (KL49F)
Posted by: toby928© Ravel Rouser at August 21, 2012 04:13 AM (QupBk)
Posted by: Ian S. at August 21, 2012 04:14 AM (rPA5/)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 21, 2012 08:09 AM (sbV1u)
Precisely!
Posted by: Nighthawk at August 21, 2012 04:14 AM (RSqz2)
Thanks for noticing.
My brain was going faster than my hunt n peckin fingers. So , I left off Morning Thread.
I can repeat my disclaimer: I don't beat myself up over typos.
Posted by: sTevo's work around at work. at August 21, 2012 04:14 AM (4cUDf)
Posted by: Case at August 21, 2012 04:14 AM (QwurB)
Akin could most certainly have benefited from an explanation of just how that whole pregnancy thing happens.
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Actually Gabe, you could go read the transcript and understand that "prevent from being pregnant" is not "terminate pregnancy"
This post is embarrassing.
Posted by: Jay at August 21, 2012 04:14 AM (3LaGb)
Posted by: nickless at August 21, 2012 04:15 AM (MMC8r)
Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at August 21, 2012 04:15 AM (qZXps)
Posted by: Fritz at August 21, 2012 04:15 AM (/ZZCn)
but then sooth his guilty conscience by believing some horseshit about women having ways to nonetheless dispose of an unwanted pregnancy
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I'm left wondering if you have any reading comprehension skills Gabe.
It is funny that your little "horseshit" line is projection.
Posted by: Jay at August 21, 2012 04:17 AM (3LaGb)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at August 21, 2012 04:17 AM (9TTOe)
You don't know shit about us do you?
MSM
...
HAHAHAHAHA takes deep breath, Hahehehoho...
Speaking for myself.
How's that MFM public image doing? Oh yeah, shit hole. Most people find the media repulsive at best. Recent CBS fabrications proved false and malicious.
Akin can prove his positive concerns for rape victims easily.
Those people who hate Akin for reforming from ignorance to knowledge condemn themselves, and the rest of us, to a hateful America. Ironically, it remains the hateful who choose to stay stuck on stupid, regardless of their knowledge.
Obama '08 won office through a positive campaign message (not positive campaign tactics, however, vicious to the Palins with Republican help). Now, Obama has gone pure negative '12 and won't get re-elected on the hate agenda. Romney's message of "love" for America will succeed.
Posted by: panzernashorn at August 21, 2012 04:18 AM (BAnPT)
this is the fault of Todd Akin.
Yes, and so far we've seen the MSM blamed, me blamed, the Establishment blamed.
And why? You guys know that there's two perfectly suitable pro-life candidates just waiting to jump in, right? All Akin has to do is drop out and then we can have the race we wanted, the one where we get the MO senate seat and a pro-life senator (maybe even a pro-life woman senator, if we're lucky).
Why is that such a horrible thing? Why are you attacking everyone but Akin to prevent that?
Posted by: Gabriel Malor at August 21, 2012 04:19 AM (IkTb7)
Posted by: thunderb at August 21, 2012 04:19 AM (Dnbau)
Let dead issues go and attack the enemy.
Posted by: SurferDoc at August 21, 2012 04:20 AM (6H6FZ)
Posted by: Robviously at August 21, 2012 04:20 AM (oG/rt)
Thankfully there's EoJ, HeatherRadish, soothsayer, Dangergirl and a few others to keep me from throwing my monitor out the window.
And people, English is your friend. It won't hurt you, it won't bite you. LEARN IT.
Posted by: BCochran1981 at August 21, 2012 04:20 AM (da5Wo)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 21, 2012 04:21 AM (05RcU)
Oh yeah, lets kick the socons to the curb. It's not like the GOP needs them. We would win all elections by the widest of margins if we would just join the Donks and spit on the socons.
Again, see, this is where you go hyperbolic rant about socons. It's not about kicking the socons, so stop being so reactionary. There are two perfectly fine socons who aren't complete fuckin' idiots just waiting to be tapped for this race. Let them run. Don't saddle the Romney/Ryan campaign with this Akin BS.
Posted by: Gabriel Malor at August 21, 2012 04:21 AM (IkTb7)
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Manner of message delivery matters. /Ask the dead messenger if in doubt./
Posted by: panzernashorn at August 21, 2012 04:21 AM (BAnPT)
Posted by: Sandra Fluck at August 21, 2012 04:22 AM (zF6Iw)
Ok....
The media still attacks us for shit that the GOP said back in 1968, listen carefully when they bring up things like LBJ's "daisy ad" seemingly at random...
"well they are still a bunch of crazy reckless warmongers" is the undertone....
and yet the Democrats are magically not culpable for having Bobby Byrd in their caucus while running as the "not racist" party.
The game is rigged, we need idiots who can't grasp that like we need to beg Bawney Fwank to head the RNC.
Posted by: sven10077 at August 21, 2012 04:22 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Pilgrim at August 21, 2012 04:23 AM (8MEaY)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 21, 2012 04:24 AM (05RcU)
The Romney/Ryan campaign immediately denounced the BS. They're not "saddled" with it whether Akin runs or not.
Posted by: panzernashorn at August 21, 2012 04:24 AM (BAnPT)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at August 21, 2012 04:24 AM (9TTOe)
Posted by: Sarah's pick at August 21, 2012 04:25 AM (HOOye)
It is like they do not get that you can be pro-life and not have to be pro-stupid. Nobody is punishing the guy because he is pro-life we are punishing him because he helped Claire and Barack and alienated a lot of women for us. The women who are uncomfortable with his shit have been programmed to be repelled by literally every point he was "trying to make".
It sucks that the Feminists do not hold the Democrat alliance with the Jihadists who are ABSOLUTELY the nemesis of their whole feigned plank in the same revulsion but it does not change the ground we fight on.
Posted by: sven10077 at August 21, 2012 04:25 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: GMan at August 21, 2012 04:25 AM (sxq57)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 21, 2012 04:25 AM (05RcU)
Posted by: Sarah's pick at August 21, 2012 08:25 AM (HOOye)
Why the Hell should steelman get it? She came in THIRD. Behind Brunner.
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at August 21, 2012 04:26 AM (KL49F)
There are two perfectly fine socons who aren't complete fuckin' idiots just waiting to be tapped for this race
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That's great, but why can't you bring yourself to criticize what Akin actually said, rather than the made up bullshit you're attributing to him, Gabe?
Posted by: Jay at August 21, 2012 04:27 AM (3LaGb)
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If the point is to not promote a divisive intra-party fight, then don't.
Posted by: panzernashorn at August 21, 2012 04:27 AM (BAnPT)
Posted by: thunderb at August 21, 2012 04:27 AM (Dnbau)
Posted by: The littl shyning man at August 21, 2012 04:27 AM (PH+2B)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 21, 2012 04:29 AM (05RcU)
Posted by: Dick Nixon at August 21, 2012 04:29 AM (+9HV6)
Posted by: Robviously at August 21, 2012 04:29 AM (oG/rt)
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Yes, but the point made above is that positive messaging wins the election, especially 2012 given everyone's despair.
Obama's losing his own campaign all by himself.
Akin? John 8:7
Posted by: panzernashorn at August 21, 2012 04:29 AM (BAnPT)
@204- Gabe, notice the // in my post?
As Vic would say-We beat this story to death yesterday. Sick of it.
Posted by: Case at August 21, 2012 04:29 AM (QwurB)
We Built This
http://is.gd/96aars
Posted by: Vic at August 21, 2012 04:30 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: thunderb at August 21, 2012 04:30 AM (Dnbau)
Posted by: SurferDoc at August 21, 2012 04:31 AM (6H6FZ)
Posted by: Bluedog803 at August 21, 2012 04:31 AM (yUS5D)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 21, 2012 04:31 AM (05RcU)
In a sane media environment that would be the correct advice. It is really strange the President of the United States avoids the DC Press corps for months, BUT the minute a Democrat planned operation pays dividends to give him a tool to fire up his base WITSEC lets him go back to his day job and the main thing the media asks him about is campaign style and the MO Senate candidate. If I didn't know any better I'd say he is finally happy with the lay of the land again.
You'll notice nobody asked him why he lied about Paul Ryan holding up Farm Aid? It sort of slipped everyone's mind that asking him about Israel possibly striking Iran might be a good idea. In lieu of finding out why NOW is the right time to worry about our POL resources and releasing the SPR they let him pop in and out *poof, but it is not like there is seemingly coordination going on between the WHPC and the Obama campaign is there?
Posted by: sven10077 at August 21, 2012 04:31 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 21, 2012 04:32 AM (05RcU)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at August 21, 2012 04:32 AM (9TTOe)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at August 21, 2012 04:33 AM (8y9MW)
>>That's great, but why can't you bring yourself to criticize what Akin actually said, rather than the made up bullshit you're attributing to him, Gabe
I'm not Gabe, but it doesn't matter. The story is now what was attributed to him. There are low information voters, yep, and they're hearing about it all now. They are pissed. Just ask around.
Posted by: Uterus Cannon at August 21, 2012 04:33 AM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at August 21, 2012 04:33 AM (KL49F)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at August 21, 2012 04:33 AM (9TTOe)
absolutely agree. I think well over 50% of the horde agrees. This topic has been masticated, pureed, diced, and mashed down to its molecular essence. A few times.
Now can everyone go back to talking about the compleat and thorough jackass we have infesting our White House?
And the positively amazing VP candidate we have on our side?
And on a completely different topic- are the pick 'em leagues all full up this year already?
Posted by: Chariots of Toast at August 21, 2012 04:34 AM (ksERZ)
Exactly, the positive message.
/Let's hope the Convention Center isn't destroyed by hurricane. /
Posted by: panzernashorn at August 21, 2012 04:34 AM (BAnPT)
For want of a shoe the horse was lost.
For want of a horse the rider was lost.
For want of a rider the battle was lost.
For want of a battle the Nation was lost.
And all for the want of a horseshoe nail.
Small actions have great consequences!
Posted by: Hrothgar at August 21, 2012 04:34 AM (Cnqmv)
Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at August 21, 2012 04:34 AM (qZXps)
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at August 21, 2012 04:34 AM (KL49F)
Yes it is....like EoJ I am sick of this and was sick of it on Saturday. I missed Vic and Monty's old DOOM! days so I stuck even though I was on the phone yesterday a good part of my time here. Fighting off a stomach flu as well.
I'll back off, but the akin thing is letting the MSM try to help poor Barry off the hook for the economy.
Give me a heads-up on Ohio if you could Dan I hope you're doing well.
Posted by: sven10077 at August 21, 2012 04:34 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: teej at August 21, 2012 04:34 AM (erYRT)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at August 21, 2012 04:35 AM (8y9MW)
I think that ultra-anomalous event (it's like a plague of frogs dropping from the sky) would've gotten a lot of talk about it in the media. Instead, the Akin debacle sucked all the oxygen out of that conversation.
Posted by: lael at August 21, 2012 04:35 AM (GMdhU)
Why do you think sacrificing him stops the pagans?
Posted by: DaveA at August 21, 2012 04:35 AM (Ve9V9)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 21, 2012 08:03 AM (JDIKC)
Have you never read Game Change? It is one long description of Obama surrogates ripping first Hillary then McCain/Palin why Barry sat back and said, "Let's be civil."
Posted by: Zombie John Gotti at August 21, 2012 04:36 AM (Gkhxf)
Posted by: johnc_ex-democrat at August 21, 2012 04:36 AM (ACkhT)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at August 21, 2012 04:36 AM (9TTOe)
Posted by: phoenixgirl, team dagny at August 21, 2012 04:36 AM (Ho2rs)
Posted by: thunderb at August 21, 2012 04:37 AM (Dnbau)
Long story short, social liberalism costs a lot of money.
Not really a tough concept to wrap your head around.
THIS
Posted by: BCochran1981 at August 21, 2012 04:37 AM (da5Wo)
Posted by: SurferDoc at August 21, 2012 04:37 AM (6H6FZ)
Todd MUST stay in the race and win.
If he leaves, America will be deprived forever of reprising "The senate, I say the senate reconvened just in time. I was glad to see Senator Aiken back. Achin' back! That's a joke, son."
And isn't the loss of our precious, Constitutional nation a small price to pay for such a great joke?
The congressman must be contemplating such weighty reasons.
Posted by: Tonawanda at August 21, 2012 04:38 AM (l62NP)
I'm not Gabe, but it doesn't matter. The story is now what was attributed to him. There are low information voters, yep, and they're hearing about it all now.
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So in other words, Gabe is part of the problem by communicating an untrue message.
Great.
Posted by: Jay at August 21, 2012 04:39 AM (3LaGb)
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at August 21, 2012 04:39 AM (KL49F)
My local guys played it this AM on the radio- I don't think it'll move the needle. He should bow out gracefully today, he can try again in 6 years.
It's slightly stronger than the normal non-apology apology, but it's still focusing on "you didn't understand, how stupid are you?" (No, that's not what the ad says).
He needed to say, "What I said was wrong. There is no explanation beyond that that matters. I was wrong, I apologize, and for the good for Missouri and the Nation, I'm withdrawing my candidacy for Senate."
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at August 21, 2012 04:40 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Y-not on the phone at August 21, 2012 04:40 AM (5H6zj)
Just tried to write Akin thru this website, has his website been taken offline?
Posted by: johnc_ex-democrat at August 21, 2012 04:41 AM (ACkhT)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 21, 2012 04:42 AM (05RcU)
http://is.gd/96aars
Posted by: Vic at August 21, 2012 08:30 AM (YdQQY)
**
Eggzellent, beat the fucker over the head with this.
Posted by: dananjcon at August 21, 2012 04:42 AM (eavT+)
Posted by: Soon to be Senator Akin at August 21, 2012 04:42 AM (/YJYi)
Posted by: Y-not on the phone at August 21, 2012 04:43 AM (5H6zj)
>>So in other words, Gabe is part of the problem by communicating an untrue message.
Great.
No. The story is the interpretation. That is what has the legs. Its only reality, unfair and cold, but there it is.
Posted by: Uterus Cannon at August 21, 2012 04:43 AM (3ZtZW)
I'm just not invested in ousting candidate X because he offended someone, at which point he's been apologizing profusely.
I'd vote against a candidate because that politician dissolves Constitutional Rule of Law, and because that candidate grows government bureaucracy and authoritarian policies that preempt law, and because that candidate "spends" taxpayer funds on foreign aid policy of nation building as is occurring now in Burma aka Myanmar (banned until this past week) to benefit GE, not tax payers, not US Economy.
I'd also vote against a candidate because that politician insists on interfering with my civil liberties.
I don't know Akin's record, only his gaff and his apology. Were Akin to come up with his platform agenda a special program to aid rape victims, then get off his back on that topic.
Posted by: panzernashorn at August 21, 2012 04:43 AM (BAnPT)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Whiteboard 2012 at August 21, 2012 04:43 AM (VtjlW)
It doesn't. It does hamper them somewhat, however.
Specifically, given how quickly Akin was thrown under the bus, it allows the rest of the candidates to react with scorn and derision to any question about this particular issue, instead of having to play defense.
Answers along the lines of, "I'm not sure why you think the position of a disgraced former candidate for senate have anything to do with this race. What the people of [State/District] need to hear is how we're going to get them jobs so they can afford medical care in the first place."
As long as Akin stays in, you can't just deflect the question and move on, you have to address it.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at August 21, 2012 04:43 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: SMOD the Liberator at August 21, 2012 04:44 AM (ozrdM)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 21, 2012 04:45 AM (05RcU)
Posted by: Roy at August 21, 2012 04:45 AM (VndSC)
Posted by: DaveA at August 21, 2012 08:35 AM (Ve9V9)
Axelturf is queuing up the next set of victims as we post!
Posted by: Hrothgar at August 21, 2012 04:45 AM (Cnqmv)
That's great, but why can't you bring yourself to criticize what Akin actually said, rather than the made up bullshit you're attributing to him, Gabe
"If it's a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down. But let's assume that maybe that didn't work or something. I think there should be some punishment, but the punishment ought to be of the rapist, and not attacking the child." -Akin
This moron thinks "the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down" if it's a "legitimate rape." As I said, he could use some sex ed.
And the idea that rape victims can avoid pregnancy without an abortion is just too convenient. I have no doubt that Akin (and Dr. Willke, the dude from the National Right to Life Committee that apparently started this unscientific idea back in the 1990s) genuinely want to do right by both the woman and the baby.
But this is dodge. This magical ways claim is a means for Akin and Willke and the rest who are now citing it to make their "no exceptions" position more palatable. They don't want to be treated as bad guys. They want people to believe that they're good guys having to address a bad situation and they offer up a hope unsupported by science, but very comforting: you can be opposed to abortion, even in cases of rape, and that's okay because women have ways of terminating pregnancy in cases of rape. As I said, it's a comforting, convenient, cowardly lie.
Posted by: Gabriel Malor at August 21, 2012 04:46 AM (IkTb7)
If we're going to sacrifice someone every cycle let's have a lottery and maybe dance with goat heads.
Posted by: DaveA at August 21, 2012 04:46 AM (Ve9V9)
Here is Akin's latest ad, I asked my pro-choice wife, she said, "what a creep" and only annoyed her more. Why this man even still in the race? He's only making it worse, and he doesn't even to understand the insanity of what he said and how offensive it is, completely tone deaf. At least this all happened now, rather than early november, which is what Claire M was no doubt hoping for! Something every unsettling about this ad, especially when juxtposed next to what he said just a few days ago.
http://tinyurl.com/8bfuduu
Posted by: johnc_ex-democrat at August 21, 2012 04:46 AM (ACkhT)
Posted by: Roy at August 21, 2012 08:45 AM (VndSC)
Thread Winner!
Posted by: Adam at August 21, 2012 04:47 AM (/YJYi)
Posted by: Nukie at August 21, 2012 04:47 AM (AzwZn)
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at August 21, 2012 04:48 AM (/kI1Q)
Posted by: DangerGirl on her DangerPhone at August 21, 2012 04:48 AM (g7vVd)
This moron thinks "the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down" if it's a "legitimate rape." As I said, he could use some sex ed
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Really? So is your assertion that a woman's body doesn't release hormones due to the stress of rape (fight or flight) that prevent the flow of blood to the uterus?
Is that what you're saying there?
Posted by: Jay at August 21, 2012 04:49 AM (3LaGb)
So pleased to hear Obamao say yesterday that he and Marty were working on a plan for Afghanistan. But here we're talking about one of many R idiots that should never have been allowed to run for dog-catcher.
Posted by: Hrothgar at August 21, 2012 04:49 AM (Cnqmv)
This. To people like Akin, I just want to shake them and yell, "Stop helping!"
So, what happens after that nine months? I mean, there will be a child born. So, what then? Are you presuming that the mother will place the baby up for adoption? What if she doesn't?
I wasn't the target of this inquiry, but I"ll take a swing: that's up to her. Adoption is certainly an option, every State (I think) has some from of the "baby Moses" law that allows women to leave their children at designated safe-sites and the State will take care of them, or she can keep the child. That's really up to her
And I realize it's not an easy decision, whatever choice she makes will have negative consequences. But, I'm sorry, your negative consequences < someone's life.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at August 21, 2012 04:49 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at August 21, 2012 04:50 AM (9TTOe)
http://tinyurl.com/8zh2hya
Posted by: Adam at August 21, 2012 04:51 AM (/YJYi)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 21, 2012 04:51 AM (05RcU)
Posted by: nickless at August 21, 2012 04:52 AM (MMC8r)
AtC,
It is not indifference to the suffering of the woman. I can't imagine a woman going through anything worse. It's disgusting, terrifying, horrifying and whatever other descriptor you want to tack on. I'm in favor of much more brutal punishment of rapists. But the line "the baby shouldn't pay the price" is a valid argument. Are there easy answers to this? Fuck no. You're right, there is no good choice. Either an innocent is killed or the woman has to deal with being impregnated by the lowest piece of shit on the planet. Adoption is a valid option. If, for whatever reason, she decides not to give the baby up, that's also her choice. As I said, there is no good option here, but if forced to choose between bad ones, I choose life. Every time.
Posted by: BCochran1981 at August 21, 2012 04:52 AM (da5Wo)
Maybe it is a fair interpretation to assume that Akin was referring to an actual pregnancy when he said 'shut that whole thing down'
I took it as preventing the pregnancy in the first place as there are doctors who believe the stress of rape will do that.
And since he referred to "doctors" telling him stuff, that is the way I interpreted what he was bumbling through.
I think Gabe's interpretation is wrong, however.
Posted by: Jay at August 21, 2012 04:53 AM (3LaGb)
What guilty conscience?
Something bad happening to you doesn't give you the right to kill somebody else who had no say in the matter. Doesn't even matter if it's rape. If you don't want the child, give him or her up for adoption, instead of snapping his or her head off like a Pez dispenser.
Posted by: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus at August 21, 2012 04:53 AM (+inic)
the SoCon uber alles wing of the party calling anyone that doesn't think you can fix the problem in a light switch manner, and that hvaing Pro-Life over all candidates as stupid as this one not helping the cause "pro choice" is not a big aid either.
Part of the reason his staying is vapid, selfish, and destructive.
Posted by: sven10077 at August 21, 2012 04:53 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Blacksheep at August 21, 2012 04:53 AM (8/DeP)
The problem there is that it's much easier (not that it's completely impossible with the other) to take your answer and say, "Candidate X refused to address..." simply because there would still be something to address. If there's nothing to address anymore, then the candidate can say, "FYNQ" and it's harder to claim he's "dodging legitimate questions."
It's not perfect either way, but I see Akin as much more of a liability than an asset at this point.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at August 21, 2012 04:54 AM (8y9MW)
From the Washington Examiner. http://tinyurl.com/8aoqdcc
"There’s a reason why Democrats spent over $1.5 million trying to help Akin win his three-way primary. He was the most conservative candidate in the field — and the most unpredictable one. He shook up his campaign staff late last year. He recently released a head-scratching and jumbled campaign ad. And Democrats have already launched a microsite highlighting his controversial statements that won’t play well with moderates. (“America has got the equivalent of the stage III cancer of socialism because the federal government is tampering in all kinds of stuff it has no business tampering in,” Akin once said.)"
The DNC spent more to help Akin than Akin did himself.
Posted by: johnc_ex-democrat at August 21, 2012 04:54 AM (ACkhT)
Posted by: SpongeBob Saget at August 21, 2012 04:55 AM (SDkq3)
Since pregnancies resulting from the two are so infinitesimal it shouldn't be a problem.
Abortion is an abomination but having to talk about and try to parse classifications of rape is a LOSING proposition for us.
There is no good way to talk about rape and the sooner this is understood the better.
And can we start vetting all of our candidates above a certain level.
Posted by: General Woundwort at August 21, 2012 04:55 AM (06lNq)
There are always solutions to any problem, but that doesn't mean that any of those solutions are easy to accept.
Posted by: Hrothgar at August 21, 2012 04:56 AM (Cnqmv)
Well if there is a silver lining in this, hopefully it is that (R) candiates for federal office stop talking about abortion laws they can not change absent a reversal of Roe.
The whole dialogue was pointless & silly and it effectively ended Akin's political career.
Posted by: Jay at August 21, 2012 04:56 AM (3LaGb)
Correct, the fact is when Claire your opponent is your biggest bundler you ARE the problem.
He has got to go.
Posted by: sven10077 at August 21, 2012 04:56 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at August 21, 2012 04:57 AM (qZXps)
Posted by: occm at August 21, 2012 04:57 AM (hgDJr)
I took it as preventing the pregnancy in the first place as there are doctors who believe the stress of rape will do that.
There are quacks like Willke who believe that, you mean. The rest of the medical community has said that's total crap.
Posted by: Gabriel Malor at August 21, 2012 04:57 AM (IkTb7)
Posted by: Uterus Cannon at August 21, 2012 04:58 AM (3ZtZW)
Yes so would a lot of us. Al-NYT is running Akin front and center. They are trying to choke off the asskicking BAM! has coming on Obamacare stealing from medicare.
Posted by: sven10077 at August 21, 2012 04:58 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at August 21, 2012 04:58 AM (qZXps)
Since pregnancies resulting from the two are so infinitesimal it shouldn't be a problem.
So the worth of a human life is dependent upon the manner in which it was conceived? Because only a few are murdered we shouldn't bother with them?
Posted by: BCochran1981 at August 21, 2012 04:59 AM (da5Wo)
Without explaining in a little more precision and detail he looks nutty and fires up more on the left than the right.
Posted by: sven10077 at August 21, 2012 04:59 AM (LRFds)
There are quacks like Willke who believe that, you mean. The rest of the medical community has said that's total crap.
Really?
Here is Web MD regarding stress and pregnancy:
Alpha-amylase is
secreted when the nervous system produces compounds known as catecholamines in
response to the "fight or flight" stress reactions.
Buck Louis says there
is early evidence that catecholamines released in response to this type of
stress reduce blood flow, which slows the passage of the fertilized egg to the
uterus.
And this was in yesterday's Boston Globe:
The Gottschalls do acknowledge that their study was at odds with previous research, which showed a lower rate of pregnancy among rape victims.
Posted by: Jay at August 21, 2012 05:00 AM (3LaGb)
Posted by: The MFM at August 21, 2012 05:00 AM (sUFEF)
Posted by: DangerGirl on her DangerPhone at August 21, 2012 05:00 AM (htu8n)
Posted by: El Kabong at August 21, 2012 05:00 AM (dwnhd)
Posted by: johnc_ex-democrat at August 21, 2012 05:00 AM (ACkhT)
Posted by: teej at August 21, 2012 05:01 AM (HEWhR)
There are quacks like Willke who believe that, you mean. The rest of the medical community has said that's total crap.
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You need to stop talking about "the medical community" and this issue at large because you're not at all informed on it.
Thanks.
Posted by: Jay at August 21, 2012 05:01 AM (3LaGb)
...
Yes. Amazing what passed as an old wife's tale, not to mention the inclination to hold to such for so long, as if he hasn't come across public sex education material. But that bitter clinger let go of it, once caught Full Monty.
I accept his apology. That doesn't mean I trust him. Given his faux pas, I doubt his ability to recover. If he has a brilliant strategist, and if he were smart enough to make the necessary amends beyond apology, I'll be surprised. It's one thing to apologize. Quite another to refrain from repeating the same stupid mindset on some other topic.
And why should the fiscal conservatives literally back pay offs for the likes of Akin's insult to intelligence? What special program for rape victims doesn't already exist? There are adoption services available, welfare for single moms, and privately funded abortion clinics (that don't deserve public tax funds).
Akin slit his own throat. I'll let him fade away on his own.
Rather than stoning him, the point now is to learn how to avoid deja vu with the next GOP campaign. How hard can it be to prime national candidates with a script? And that is the problem, "scripted" prefabricated politicians, as if anything new under the sun. Great choice.
Posted by: panzernashorn at August 21, 2012 05:01 AM (BAnPT)
>>I took it as preventing the pregnancy in the first place as there are doctors who believe the stress of rape will do that.
How many descendents of Ghengis Khan have geneticists statistically identified? Millions now?
Posted by: Uterus Cannon at August 21, 2012 05:01 AM (3ZtZW)
I know I will feel smug when Barry outlaws LNG electric generation but we will have shown MADDOW who is boss.
Posted by: sven10077 at August 21, 2012 05:02 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 21, 2012 05:02 AM (05RcU)
Posted by: El Kabong at August 21, 2012 05:03 AM (dwnhd)
From Politico so......
Rep. Paul Ryan phoned Missouri Senate candidate Rep. Todd Akin on Monday, according to a report Tuesday.
“Republican leaders who were never keen on Akin as the candidate to begin with are going to be keeping up the pressure. Texas Sen. John Cornyn is leading the charge. We have confirmed, CBS News has confirmed, that vice presidential nominee Paul Ryan called Akin yesterday,” political correspondent Jan Crawford said on “CBS This Morning.”
http://tinyurl.com/cy9tm2u
Posted by: Tami at August 21, 2012 05:03 AM (X6akg)
Diana Nyad has apparent;y given up goal to swim 103 miles from Havana Cuba to the Florida Keys. She has tried to swim it without a shark cage to protect her from sharks. She has suffered jellyfish stings.
http://tinyurl.com/8fo8afp
She probably should have consulted Cubans have tried to make the voyage. But many area dead while others languish in prison. Very few have made it to the US.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 21, 2012 05:03 AM (cubpP)
oh come on now I am sure that ALL those women were really turned on by seeing their husbands and sons' heads in front of them....
//sarc as if it needs said
Posted by: sven10077 at August 21, 2012 05:03 AM (LRFds)
“There are no words for this — it is just nuts,” said Dr. Michael Greene, a professor of obstetrics, gynecology and reproductive biology at Harvard Medical School.
Dr. David Grimes, a clinical professor in obstetrics and gynecology at the University of North Carolina, said, that “to suggest that there’s some biological reason why women couldn’t get pregnant during a rape is absurd.”
Mr. Akin’s statement did have supporters. Bryan Fischer, director of issue analysis for the American Family Association, a conservative Christian group, defended Mr. Akin on his program “Focal Point,” citing “John Willke, who is an M.D. by the way — a lot of these ignoramuses on Twitter are not.”
[..]
But several experts said there is no solid data on such issues. A 1996 study in the American Journal of Obstetrics and Gynecology, generally considered one of the few peer-reviewed research efforts on this subject, estimated that 5 percent of rapes result in pregnancy. “Yeah, there are all sorts of hormones, including ones that cause your heart to beat fast when you’re frightened,” said Dr. Greene. But he added, “I’m not aware of any data that says that reduces a woman’s risk of getting pregnant.”
As for the contention that a rape victim’s fallopian tubes tighten, Dr. Grimes, formerly of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, said, “That’s nonsense. Everything is working. The tube is very small anyway and sperm are very tiny — they’re excellent swimmers.”
Posted by: Gabriel Malor at August 21, 2012 05:03 AM (IkTb7)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 21, 2012 05:03 AM (05RcU)
You do know females are impregnated by rape all the time, right?
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0.004% of pregnancies in America are estimated to be because of rape.
Yes, it does happen.
I didn't mean to imply "never"
Posted by: Jay at August 21, 2012 05:04 AM (3LaGb)
Posted by: kelley in virginia at August 21, 2012 05:04 AM (p3a8+)
Posted by: El Kabong at August 21, 2012 05:04 AM (dwnhd)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Whiteboard 2012 at August 21, 2012 05:05 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at August 21, 2012 05:05 AM (9TTOe)
You need to stop talking about "the medical community" and this issue at large because you're not at all informed on it.
Thanks.
FY, NQ.
Posted by: Gabriel Malor at August 21, 2012 05:05 AM (IkTb7)
Dr. David Grimes, a clinical professor in obstetrics and gynecology at the University of North Carolina, said, that “to suggest that there’s some biological reason why women couldn’t get pregnant during a rape is absurd.”
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That isn't what Akin said.
Gabe, you can quit now. You're behind.
Posted by: Jay at August 21, 2012 05:05 AM (3LaGb)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at August 21, 2012 05:07 AM (9TTOe)
Yeah it sucks, but bear in mind that Liberals are actually pro-rape. Have you ever heard a Lib scream "I hope your wife gets raped and can't get an abortion!"
They're pro-abortion in all cases, except rape. Ghouls.
Posted by: brando at August 21, 2012 05:07 AM (IPGju)
FY, NQ.
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Note: You are unable to deal with what Akin actually said.
So I expected nothing less.
PS: There have been multiple studies showing rape victims get pregnant at a lower rate than the population at large.
Watching you ignore that fact is fun.
Posted by: Jay at August 21, 2012 05:07 AM (3LaGb)
I've always felt she could do the job a '51 Chevy pickup with empty oil drums welded to its sides couldn't do....
Posted by: MrScribbler at August 21, 2012 05:08 AM (wZI4b)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at August 21, 2012 05:08 AM (9TTOe)
Posted by: Vic at August 21, 2012 05:08 AM (YdQQY)
To me it's invenereal, I can't vote for or against this guy and I'm kinda sick of hearing about him.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at August 21, 2012 05:09 AM (yh0zB)
Posted by: Y-not at August 21, 2012 05:09 AM (5H6zj)
Science and education subcommittee? GOP leadership best step up. now. today. pronto. no delay. Tell the press Akin will languish in a congressional basement office.
Posted by: 13times at August 21, 2012 05:09 AM (h6XiD)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 21, 2012 09:02 AM (05RcU)
Even if the odds were vanishingly small (and they aren't), there is a very real issue here in that pregnancy by rape can occur. That means many hard decisions need to be made.
They just do not all need to be resolved during the course of this election cycle to the exclusion of the fact that we have a Commie/Marxist/America-hating Indonesian-raised Chicago thug for president.
Posted by: Hrothgar at August 21, 2012 05:09 AM (Cnqmv)
Let me be very clear on this, a woman does not/should not carry any of the blame for this horrific act. It's certainly not what I intended and I'll venture a guess that it's not what most others mean either. I think the focus gets put on the baby because, well, to be blunt, it's the one about to lose it's life.
You're right, there are no magic switches to throw. But again, I know what the wrong choice is and that's taking the life of someone who has no say and didn't do anything wrong.
Posted by: BCochran1981 at August 21, 2012 05:09 AM (da5Wo)
Be sure to order your Depends® with the HQ logo and new motto, "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to shit himself."
Posted by: andycanuck at August 21, 2012 05:09 AM (vDl/w)
Oh so I guess we should ask the guy who pumps gas at the corner?
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I guess we look to recent law school graduates for medical advice now?
Is that what you're suggesting?
Posted by: Jay at August 21, 2012 05:09 AM (3LaGb)
Because we need 2 parties with no principles only the will to win.
Posted by: DaveA at August 21, 2012 05:09 AM (Ve9V9)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at August 21, 2012 05:09 AM (9TTOe)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 21, 2012 05:10 AM (05RcU)
There is perfect understanding between Catholics and Baptists.
I understand she has the gun.
Posted by: sven10077 at August 21, 2012 05:10 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Gerry at August 21, 2012 05:10 AM (JKq+J)
Note: You are unable to deal with what Akin actually said.
I quoted exactly what he said. And then you admitted that you just had a different interpretation. Well, I think you're wrong and so does just about everyone else who heard it.
I'm sorry you're so upset about that. I surely am.
I'm more sorry you're actually defending this guy. We could have either of two great candidates running in Missouri. But you want to stick with this guy because . . . I'm not quite clear why.
Posted by: Gabriel Malor at August 21, 2012 05:11 AM (IkTb7)
Tim Conway said. "She won her place in the Hall of Comedy as the First Lady."
http://tinyurl.com/9e9vp7a
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 21, 2012 05:11 AM (cubpP)
Yes because there is not slightly more chance of Barack Obama turning suddenly Amish than there is of "fixing abortion" overnight.
Posted by: sven10077 at August 21, 2012 05:11 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Whiteboard 2012 at August 21, 2012 05:11 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: SurferDoc at August 21, 2012 05:12 AM (6H6FZ)
I am married.
Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at August 21, 2012 09:09 AM (OWjjx)
Dammit with the new keyboards and monitors! I'm going broke!
Posted by: BCochran1981 at August 21, 2012 05:12 AM (da5Wo)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at August 21, 2012 05:12 AM (i330i)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at August 21, 2012 05:12 AM (9TTOe)
Posted by: Adam at August 21, 2012 05:12 AM (/YJYi)
Posted by: phoenixgirl, team dagny at August 21, 2012 05:13 AM (Ho2rs)
I'm sure the Missouri GOP primary voters will be grateful for you telling them who they should have picked as their nominee--to make people who don't live in Missouri happy! Isn't that what Missouri voters prioritize!?--two weeks after their election.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at August 21, 2012 05:13 AM (/kI1Q)
I'm more sorry you're actually defending this guy.
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Except I'm not "defending the guy"
Pointing out that your criticism is sloppy & dishonest isn't defending Akin.
I'm sorry you can't see that.
Posted by: Jay at August 21, 2012 05:13 AM (3LaGb)
Posted by: Y-not at August 21, 2012 05:13 AM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Gabriel Malor at August 21, 2012 09:03 AM (IkTb7)
My boys can swim!!!
Posted by: George Costanza at August 21, 2012 05:13 AM (X6akg)
Words/phrases that liberals toss around that they have no idea of the real meaning: unconstitutional; racist; hate crime; unprecedented.
Posted by: katya, the designated driver at August 21, 2012 05:14 AM (DoZD+)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 21, 2012 05:14 AM (05RcU)
The problem with that "we have to be careful saying things..." line is that it locks up discussion. You have to spend all your time either saying things that have already been established (rape is a horrible and horrific crime, and so forth) and never getting to the part where you can then explain, in some detail, exactly why you believe that abortion in the case of rape is still wrong, or you skip that first part and sound "cold" or "uncaring."
I'm sorry, I don't have to mention that gravity works, I don't have to mention that water is wet. I shouldn't have to mention the fact I think rape is perhaps the most reprehensible crime one can commit and that it's affects are farther reaching and more devastating than most crimes. This is especially true when the question of rape is tangential to the discussion- which is about the morality of abortion.
If you then ascribe to me (well, not me specifically since you excluded me in your statement, but you know what I mean) the label of "uncaring" or whatever, that's not my fault. Especially in politics, I have roughly 30 - 45 seconds to say what I want to say, and I'd better hope I can sum it up in 6 seconds. That doesn't leave a lot of time for ritual castigation of rapists when I'm talking about abortion.
Which is also why politicians should largely leave the question of abortion alone except to say, "I think Roe v Wade is an egregious example of Judicial over-reach, and it should be overturned and the question returned to the States where it belongs." If you don't live in a heavy federalist district, you can instead say, "I think Roe v Wade was a bad decision because the court tried to play doctor, and medical realities have changed in the intervening years. Rather than attempt to address it at a federal level, I believe the States, which can be much more responsive to changing medical science, are where decisions about availability of abortion should be decided."
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at August 21, 2012 05:14 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Beefy Meatball at August 21, 2012 05:14 AM (mxnUd)
Lol. How bout this? *pulls out bottle of Val U Rite* A toast! I don't know to what, but who fucking cares? Drink up my friend!
Posted by: BCochran1981 at August 21, 2012 05:15 AM (da5Wo)
We could have either of two great candidates running in Missouri. But you want to stick with this guy because . . . I'm not quite clear why.
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I never said I wanted to stick with him.
You being intellectually dishonest doesn't mean I'm a fan of Akin.
Hey, can you call those doctors who have conducted studies demonstrating that rape victims get pregant at a lower rate than other women and tell them they are not part of the medical community?
Posted by: Jay at August 21, 2012 05:15 AM (3LaGb)
I wonder how many of those voters were Democrats. Democrats funded his campaign; it stands to reason Democrats would vote for him.
Posted by: lael at August 21, 2012 05:15 AM (GMdhU)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at August 21, 2012 05:15 AM (i330i)
Posted by: phoenixgirl, team dagny at August 21, 2012 05:15 AM (Ho2rs)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Whiteboard 2012 at August 21, 2012 05:15 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: Y-not at August 21, 2012 05:16 AM (5H6zj)
Posted by: lael at August 21, 2012 05:16 AM (GMdhU)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at August 21, 2012 05:16 AM (9TTOe)
Hey at least you were spared the nom'd'guerre "baby killer", I am thinking if we wind up losing the seat-who cares unless we miss salying Obamacare by 1 vote in the Senate? If Obama ekes out a sub 1% victory on this issue the party needs to have a long talk about trying to inflict morality and defending liberty as top priority and whether or not we have the will to act the part of asshole as well as the dems did from 1967-present to force society to bend our way.
I don't think we do. I know we here probably do, but I think too many traditional American values types want that to somehow be the default neutral position when it is not. The nation is going to split or the left is going to steamroll us.
Posted by: sven10077 at August 21, 2012 05:17 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at August 21, 2012 05:17 AM (i330i)
Maybe that explains Nancy Pelosi. She wanted to be Phyllis Diller. But it went horribily wrong.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 21, 2012 05:18 AM (cubpP)
Posted by: phoenixgirl, team dagny at August 21, 2012 05:18 AM (Ho2rs)
I'm not sure when this happened. Advent of the intertubes, maybe.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at August 21, 2012 05:18 AM (/kI1Q)
Posted by: General Woundwort quoted from "Stuff he didn't say, but should have" at August 21, 2012 05:19 AM (qZXps)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at August 21, 2012 05:19 AM (9TTOe)
Akin's top bundler was Claire. Huckabuck was his biggest shill. Huckabuck helped the donks pick McCain, what's that tell you?
You ever notice how when the GOP gets covered in shit Huck has an odd aroma wafting nearby?
Posted by: sven10077 at August 21, 2012 05:19 AM (LRFds)
legitimate stupidity
Wasn't "legitimate rape" his stupid reference to those actually raped vs. other pregnant women claiming rape in order to qualify for tax funded abortion?
Posted by: panzernashorn at August 21, 2012 05:20 AM (BAnPT)
It's my soul scream when I want EMPHASIZE MY POINT.
Juvenile, yes, annoying, sure, but it's how I'm wired.
Posted by: General Woundwort at August 21, 2012 05:21 AM (06lNq)
Posted by: Y-not at August 21, 2012 05:21 AM (5H6zj)
It started in the late 1800's. It was pretty well solidified by the time of Eisenhower.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at August 21, 2012 05:21 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Y-not at August 21, 2012 05:22 AM (5H6zj)
Posted by: The Chicken at August 21, 2012 05:22 AM (qZXps)
You're making my point for me sven1077. The political math comes AFTER doing the right thing if it doesn't interfere.
Posted by: DaveA at August 21, 2012 05:23 AM (Ve9V9)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 21, 2012 05:23 AM (05RcU)
http://tinyurl.com/8prnjhz
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 21, 2012 05:23 AM (cubpP)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 21, 2012 09:14 AM (05RcU)
Point I was trying to make is that there can be many interpretations of the best way to handle a rape pregnancy, and people of reasonable intelligence and with good moral character may not all reach the same absolutist conclusion. That said, there is no way we are going to bring the country together and sing Kumbayah after outlawing abortion before this election.
It is time to focus on the primary issue of the SCOAMF's anti-American policies (one of which is the permitted murder of inconveniently born-alive but abortion-delivered babies).
Posted by: Hrothgar at August 21, 2012 05:23 AM (Cnqmv)
Posted by: naturalfake at August 21, 2012 05:23 AM (G9qZk)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Whiteboard 2012 at August 21, 2012 05:23 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: Y-not at August 21, 2012 05:24 AM (5H6zj)
Posted by: The Chicken at August 21, 2012 09:22 AM (qZXps)
Have you been consorting with Rahm Emmanuel or Pussy Riot?
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 21, 2012 05:24 AM (cubpP)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 21, 2012 05:24 AM (05RcU)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 21, 2012 05:26 AM (05RcU)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at August 21, 2012 05:26 AM (9TTOe)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at August 21, 2012 05:26 AM (i330i)
Posted by: Daybrother at August 21, 2012 05:28 AM (d6j3N)
BTW, my husband's interpretation of the "legitimate rape" thing
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I think Akin meant to say "forcible rape" as the CDC released a survey on "sexual violence" in 2011 which was pretty loosey-goosey with the definitions.
Posted by: Jay at August 21, 2012 05:28 AM (3LaGb)
Posted by: Kenny Rogers at August 21, 2012 05:28 AM (G9qZk)
I'm rather frustrated that a man that believes that women have magical "ways" to terminate pregnancies is a congressman and actually sought a Senate seat.
Yeah, well, join the club. I'm frustrated that we had a life-long senator who could drive a woman into a river, leave her there, and suffer no consequences for it. I'm also frustrated that there's a Representative who thinks Guam could tip over and sink.
I agree that this moron needs to go. I hope it happens fast. But this also illustrates why we should attack loudly, and clean up our messes quietly. The Dems ignore every foul up their side commits, and while the complicit media is certainly a help to them in this effort, the tactic itself is smart.
Posted by: Reactionary at August 21, 2012 05:28 AM (xUM1Q)
The problem with Akin is he framed this in absolutely the worst way possible.
Part of being a politician is hiding your candle under a barrel sometimes.
"Abortion is the law of the land, I am personally opposed to all abortion after the viabilty of the baby to live if delivered prematurely is assured."
Not hard to do. A majority of Americans are pro-life or a large plurality in any case, but by trying to protect the position of a person who so inarticulately defended the version of pro-life that only 20% of those surveyed favor damage is being done to the party. Arguably not even a majority of the GOP favors "period" as the answer.
How much of that is due to, as in my case acknowledging political expediency is part of the "serious chat" we need to have if SCOAMF wins and there is still a nation left after his 4 years.
Posted by: sven10077 at August 21, 2012 05:29 AM (LRFds)
And see, that's the thing. If he had left out the magic uterus stuff (whether he's more right than wrong, or more wrong that right on that. IDK, and I don't care), then it's easy enough to say, "I'm sorry, I sacrificed clarity for brevity. I was attempting to highlight the fact that, on a physiological and physical violence level, not all cases of rape are equal." (and then continue with a more detailed explanation, apology etc.) Then he just looks like someone who stepped in it verbally instead of a complete idiot.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at August 21, 2012 05:29 AM (8y9MW)
For the third consecutive month, the Obama campaign spent more than it raised, assumed new debt and substantially depleted its cash-on-hand reserves, according to the organization's Federal Election Commission filing for July.
Obama for America collected $49.1 million between July 1 and 31 - a modest increase over June and on pace to match the president's fundraising record of $746 million from four years ago.
But a rapid summertime expansion of grassroots organizing operations in swing states and an aggressive advertising blitz against rival Mitt Romney has begun to drain resources. Obama for America spent $58.8 million over the same period, according to the filing.
Obama's available cash on hand fell $10 million in July from $97 million to $87.7 million. Debts owed by the campaign rose to $2.8 million.
If it's a war of attrition Barry may be broke by October
Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 21, 2012 05:30 AM (1Jaio)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at August 21, 2012 05:30 AM (9TTOe)
Plausible Deniability Jeff.
That way when we counterbattery giggles with somethin "as if" he can say er uh "local matter" and the newsies will happily move back to how Barry Goldwater wanting to use nukes in 'nam is a sin the GOP must still be punished for.
I hate the media, lost in all this is that one of the few stands you can find Barack taking on controversy in his salad days is standing between police reports and "letting the babies I do not want my daughter punished with dying in linen closets".
I could fill the Grand Canyon with tears from my rage at the inequity, but it does not change the lay of the battlefield.
Posted by: sven10077 at August 21, 2012 07:48 AM (LRFds)
Exactly , Obama did the same thing saying media shouldn't attack Palins children , but it was just the beginning of that.
Posted by: Temper Tantrum at August 21, 2012 05:30 AM (AWmfW)
Posted by: Y-not at August 21, 2012 05:30 AM (5H6zj)
Right-oh.
Fascinating to hear that the Taliban types always increase their harassment rocket fire into Bagram in the summer.
MFM: Nothing to see here, move along, the unexpected damage to Marty's plane was superficial, and besides he had a backup plane that he used to depart from Shitcanistan!
I hate the SCOAMF more and more every time a new casualty report is published.
Posted by: Hrothgar at August 21, 2012 05:31 AM (Cnqmv)
Posted by: Nash Rambler at August 21, 2012 05:32 AM (vXucy)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at August 21, 2012 05:33 AM (9TTOe)
I think we need to defer to Code Pink on this matter, they seem to be authority on all things vaginal.
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Posted by: dananjcon at August 21, 2012 05:34 AM (eavT+)
C-RAM should be at Bagram AB to stop such attacks. But it also has about a 70% intercept rate. And only works if turned on.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 21, 2012 05:35 AM (cubpP)
Illustrating my point that giving human sacrifices to pagans doesn't stop them.
Posted by: DaveA at August 21, 2012 05:35 AM (Ve9V9)
Posted by: Y-not at August 21, 2012 05:36 AM (5H6zj)
No idea what that means, but here, here's one from the land of the Gingers...
Croà follain agus gob fliuch.
A healthy heart and a wet mouth!
Posted by: BCochran1981 at August 21, 2012 05:36 AM (da5Wo)
well at least you got what I was perhaps too imagery based in explaining....
Obama's position on abortion is "leave the baby in the closet to die screaming if things go wrong with no prosecution".....
UNLESS THE GOP IS REALLY WILLING TO FIGHT BACK WITH THAT FACT THIS IS BAD FOR US
sorry to scream with caps, honest but that is my overall point.
I know our "leaders lack the will to turn the tide by hurting Obama using the media with this.
We could end the media's bias in about ten seconds if Mitt Romney answered with "You know that's an interesting question do I agree with Akin on rape, do you agree with Barack Obama that the police should not investigate when a failed abortion in late term delivers a baby that is then left to die screaming in a linen closet because Barack Obama argued in the Illinois legislature he felt that way?"
BOOM the media will back the hell off...until we Moron types nominate THOSE people to run the party and get them picked we are suckers.
Posted by: sven10077 at August 21, 2012 05:37 AM (LRFds)
I was told there would be no math. And my point is math comes second.
Posted by: DaveA at August 21, 2012 05:40 AM (Ve9V9)
That's the lay of the land. Unless the GOP is willing to shit themselves, send their intellectual pretenders into Education departments and invest 40 years into ripping control of the alliance the GOP currently faces away from them we have to deal with political reality or form a new nation. Right now today I don't see enough justification for the divorce, BUT give Captain Executive Order Obama enough time maybe.
Posted by: sven10077 at August 21, 2012 05:43 AM (LRFds)
Did anyone tell them they're actually dressed as labia?
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at August 21, 2012 05:48 AM (/kI1Q)
Posted by: cynder ella at August 21, 2012 05:51 AM (oZfic)
Posted by: cynder ella at August 21, 2012 05:55 AM (oZfic)
Posted by: hmmmmm at August 21, 2012 05:58 AM (lyZvx)
The press is going to take it easy on him today.
As soon as the 5 oclcock deadline hits and it becomes much more difficult to replace him since the dems can challenge a replacement and tie it up in court, its going to be the SHITSTORM OF THE CENTURY!
Enjoy your 15 minutes Akin you fucking piece of shit. You are about to become the most hated man in the country.
Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka Wright at August 21, 2012 06:00 AM (ovpNn)
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Posted by: phoenixgirl, team dagny at August 21, 2012 06:10 AM (Ho2rs)
Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie ® at August 21, 2012 06:11 AM (1hM1d)
Posted by: toby928© at August 21, 2012 10:07 AM (QupBk)
Seems to me that science answers the question, and the answer comports with conservative views - life begins at conception.
Don't bring ethics into it. Unless you think ethics is more settled than science? Or everybody shares the same ethics?
Posted by: FUBAR at August 21, 2012 06:13 AM (mdhVr)
Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie ® at August 21, 2012 10:11 AM (1hM1d)
Wastage of bacon. That's the unforgivable sin in all this.
Posted by: FUBAR at August 21, 2012 06:14 AM (mdhVr)
Posted by: thunderb at August 21, 2012 06:18 AM (Dnbau)
Posted by: FUBAR at August 21, 2012 06:22 AM (mdhVr)
Posted by: FUBAR at August 21, 2012 10:22 AM (mdhVr)
Links have been disabled for about 6 months.....along with all the formatting buttons.
Just paste the tiny url in the comment box....or....use the original url and put in in the 'URL:' box under your name. It will make your name clickable.
Posted by: Tami at August 21, 2012 06:28 AM (X6akg)
Now we get one idiot... it's going to happen folks... and the fear on our side is wayyy beyond palpable - it has exploded through every pore!
I guess I'm the stupid one for having bought into (and espousing) our false confidence. We're about to get steamrolled by a SCOAMF. Damn. We're doomed. It's time to make serious plans to move to a more business-friendly country.
Posted by: Conservative connisseur at August 21, 2012 06:33 AM (lyZvx)
Anyone is better than Claire McCaskill! I hope someone better is elected to the Senate!!!
Romney/Ryan 2012.
Posted by: A.Men at August 21, 2012 06:36 AM (8oOiX)
Posted by: toby928© at August 21, 2012 06:56 AM (QupBk)
Posted by: Hawker Flyer at August 21, 2012 07:08 AM (/ZcAq)
who's birthday is it today?
Posted by: phoenixgirl, team dagny at August 21, 2012 09:18 AM (Ho2rs)
IT'S KENNY ROGERS' BIRTHDAY!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VV6In1K8zKk
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I always liked his song, "Coward of the County".
Posted by: Todd Akin at August 21, 2012 07:08 AM (QjSgY)
Soooo.... the loss of Troops last week to Afgan Freindlies is NOT a story? (more troops I should say)
The fact that the US, drone'd a car target, twice, killing bad guys (OK), but then waited until FIRST RESPONDERS got to the scene to try to help, and then hit them with another missle.... is not worth talking about?
Obama's press conference where he flat out lied to the American people... and also talked about intervening in Syria?
Nope... we're stuck reloading the circular firing squad...
Posted by: Romeo13 at August 21, 2012 07:10 AM (lZBBB)
"I read that this guy has been in the State House for 5 terms. Has he expressed his stupid, weird opinions on rape before?!"
Posted by: A.Men at August 21, 2012 10:36 AM (8oOiX)
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"I'm pretty sure that the reason McCaskill worked so hard to get this guy the win in the primary is because she has video of him saying something stupid on the abortion topic. Having him self immolate this early is throwing a wrench in her plans. She wanted to drop this bomb in October."
Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 21, 2012 07:52 AM (ZJNI6)
I agree with DiF... odds on he has opined on camera, or tape, about rape and/or abortion before. I don't think teh stupid just tumbled thoughtlessly out of his mouth this once. Up until two days ago, he probably thought he had bulletproof Talking Points on this stuff. The MO media knows which buttons to push on Akin....
"Pssst...Danny! Go ask Uncle Todd about UFOs!"
Posted by: 66chevelle at August 21, 2012 07:29 AM (QjSgY)
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Congress rapes Taxpayers all day every day in the Capitol. But since it's THEM committing the crime, forget about making it a capital crime.
snark off
Yes, rape is not acceptable. And enforcing existing laws with due diligence is necessary.
However, encouraging "easy pickin's" politically opportunistic prosecutors to commit more injustice towards those falsely accused, like the university team the other year, isn't going to help anyone, with a possible exception of rapists given a public backlash of over-tolerance for the crime since intolerance ruins the lives of those not guilty but accused.
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