September 25, 2012
— Gabriel Malor Happy Tuesday.
Returning for one day only, it's DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM. (Really, it seems like we're doomed.)
Ahmadinejad, speaking in New York, said that Israel would be eliminated. The official U.S. reply is that Ahmadinejad's statement is "disguthting, offenthive and outrageouth." Oh, yeah, that's gonna leave a mark. Ahmadinejad speaks to the UN tomorrow.
Guy Benson looks into the latest Politico poll -- you know, the one where they're trying to create the idea that Obama is pulling ahead -- and finds some unusual results: they've got Obama up 3% and yet Romney is ahead of him in six of seven issues. Also, it should be pointed out that Obama has been up by about 3% in RCP's average for months; that's not pulling ahead, that's status quo.
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Posted by: Navycopjoe (iphone5 snob) at September 25, 2012 02:55 AM (ddb4x)
Posted by: Navycopjoe (iphone5 snob) at September 25, 2012 02:56 AM (ddb4x)
Posted by: IdowhatIwant at September 25, 2012 02:57 AM (a4CUi)
Posted by: Miss Marple at September 25, 2012 02:58 AM (GoIUi)
Posted by: Schrödinger's cat, concern trolling at September 25, 2012 02:58 AM (feFL6)
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Posted by: Navycopjoe (iphone5 snob) at September 25, 2012 02:59 AM (ddb4x)
Posted by: Navycopjoe (iphone5 snob) at September 25, 2012 03:01 AM (ddb4x)
Posted by: Ball of Meat at September 25, 2012 03:04 AM (mxnUd)
Posted by: joncelli at September 25, 2012 03:05 AM (CWlPF)
Posted by: AussieMarcus at September 25, 2012 03:06 AM (RstsB)
Posted by: Eli and Peyton at September 25, 2012 03:10 AM (SHz6J)
Posted by: Botec at September 25, 2012 03:11 AM (TgEHq)
On the other side you have people whooping and hollering about the fact that the polls (highly skewed polls) show him not yet getting trounced. Which means he's getting trounced.
And then you have all the people complaining about the fact that the one guy is not complaining more, while at the same time wringing their hands over all the skewed polls that show the other guy isn't yet getting trounced.
I want to be entertained by all this, and you people are letting me down. Shame on you.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 25, 2012 03:12 AM (BeSEI)
Posted by: Navycopjoe (iphone5 snob) at September 25, 2012 03:14 AM (ddb4x)
The lengths people will go ... including eugenicists' propaganda...
Researchers in S.Korea's Inha University announced that castrated men living centuries ago outlived other men by a significant margin.
...As if living conditions and job description, avoiding service in wars and physical confrontations, didn't help add to the life expectancy.
Eunuchs. pfft
Posted by: panzernashorn at September 25, 2012 03:14 AM (BAnPT)
Posted by: Navycopjoe (iphone5 snob) at September 25, 2012 03:15 AM (ddb4x)
A thousand pardons, sahib. Can we interest you in a nice end-of-days thread?
Posted by: pep at September 25, 2012 03:15 AM (YXmuI)
Not really a surprise. Women outlive men by a significant margin, even when you correct for war and childbirth. Testosterone is probably not all that good for your body in the long term.
Posted by: pep at September 25, 2012 03:17 AM (YXmuI)
Posted by: Navycopjoe (iphone5 snob) at September 25, 2012 03:18 AM (ddb4x)
Didn't they run a big risk of dying from infection from the procedure itself? I guess different cultures used different methods, some safer than others. Hrm.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at September 25, 2012 03:19 AM (hO8IJ)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at September 25, 2012 03:20 AM (uhAkr)
Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at September 25, 2012 03:21 AM (feFL6)
Posted by: Ten at September 25, 2012 03:21 AM (56DAY)
I haven't.
I'm getting really sick of being blamed for stupid shit other women do.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at September 25, 2012 03:22 AM (hO8IJ)
Posted by: trufff at September 25, 2012 03:22 AM (fQlRP)
Good morning, 'rons and 'ronettes. Apologies for the quickie story yesterday. Today looks like a little easier day, so let's discuss a bit of Hollywood history:
One of the many misconceptions about the silent era – and one that forms much of the plot of Singin’ In The Rain – is that its stars were all ruined when talking pictures came in, because none of them had good voices.
It’s true that a number of stars and minor actors didn’t make the transition, but in almost all cases it was due to factors beyond their control, such as the thick accents of Vilma Banky and Pola Negri, Marion Davies’ stutter or Jobyna Ralston‘s lisp. Other stars fell by the wayside simply because the public expected new actors for the new technology; sure, it might be great to hear Max Linder or Theda Bara talk, but since they’d been making movies for a long time, you already knew what to expect from them. How could they surprise you?
When the subject of lost careers comes up, though, invariably the example of John Gilbert is given. Gilbert was one of the greatest of the silent screen heartthrobs, second probably only to Valentino, and three of his most popular films, He Who Gets Slapped (with Lon Chaney), The Merry Widow (with Mae Murray) and The Big Parade (with Renée Adorée) can still be seen in regular broadcasts on TCM.
GilbertÂ’s career, itÂ’s said, was ruined because his voice was a high, girlish squeak. Alternatively, itÂ’s said that MGM mogul Louis B. Mayer, who hated Gilbert (though whether because the actor got the better of the studio in contract negotiations or because Gilbert once punched Mayer, isnÂ’t clear), deliberately sabotaged his debut, speeding up the soundtrack to turn the great lover into a joke.
But the delicious actress Colleen Moore, who managed to make the transition to sound, knew the truth:
“John’s voice was fine – it was the same timbre as that of Ronald Colman or Dough Fairbanks, both of whom successfully made the transition from silents to sound. Metro put him into his first talking picture – it was called One Glorious Night – and when it was finished, they ran it in the projection room and all the executives, Mayer and Thalberg and the others, were pleased as punch. They stood around congratulating John – and themselves – on the triumphant proof that he’d conquered the microphone.
“Then they took his picture out and previewed it, and that’s when the audience betrayed John. You see, for years and years movie audiences had been accustomed to watching romantic leading men as they made those ardent and passionate speeches to the heroines. But they’d never heard the words. Now on came John, and for the first time the audience heard him saying, “Darling, I love you – I love you,” and when they heard that, they began to giggle nervously and to titter, and then they laughed at him. And the executives misunderstood it. They assumed the people were laughing at his voice.
“That was it. The stories started going around about John’s high-pitched voice, and they ruined him. But just you watch Queen Christina, that picture he finally got to make with Greta Garbo – she insisted they hire him – and you listen to John in the love scenes, and you’ll realize that all that gossip about him is absolutely false.”
And now it's off to grab a quick cup of tea and settle in to the daily grind. Hope you all have a wonderful day.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 25, 2012 03:22 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: Schrödinger's cat, concern trolling at September 25, 2012 06:58 AM (feFL6)
Where's Joe?
Posted by: Paul Anka at September 25, 2012 03:25 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: macintx at September 25, 2012 03:27 AM (teREJ)
We're at Dbt 106% GDP
Posted by: Sven10077 at September 25, 2012 03:28 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at September 25, 2012 03:29 AM (feFL6)
Reality is hard, you evil rethuglikkkan bastards!
Posted by: Typical In-Need-of-Psychotropic-Meds Leftard at September 25, 2012 03:29 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: Samuel Adams at September 25, 2012 03:30 AM (ZOf1l)
Whew! dodged that bullet!
Posted by: Andi "Milky Loads" Sullivan at September 25, 2012 03:31 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: Gran at September 25, 2012 03:33 AM (mw0FO)
Posted by: obi wan soothsayer at September 25, 2012 03:34 AM (uff2W)
Posted by: Sven10077 at September 25, 2012 03:34 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Gran at September 25, 2012 03:35 AM (mw0FO)
Posted by: Sven10077 at September 25, 2012 03:35 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Botec at September 25, 2012 07:11 AM (TgEHq)
Some warning would have been nice. Off to get a towel to clean my monitor.
Posted by: Ammo Dump at September 25, 2012 03:36 AM (YYyqq)
Posted by: Samuel Adams at September 25, 2012 03:36 AM (ZOf1l)
Posted by: Uncle Tio at September 25, 2012 03:36 AM (+I8Mq)
There is a reason why Rule #28 in the Moron Handbook is "No food or drink allowed."
Posted by: Sean Bannion at September 25, 2012 03:37 AM (sbV1u)
Buck up, little camper! Remember, I'm single handedly responsible for the collapse of Western Civilization. You just destroy people one on one.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. We're not worthy. at September 25, 2012 03:38 AM (Gk3SS)
The argument goes that the NFL is going to lose fans, and therefore money. The officiating has been absolutely atrocious this year.
Posted by: GMan at September 25, 2012 03:39 AM (sxq57)
As we age, our body produces less of it.
This leads to things like poor mood, increased fat deposits, decreased potency,virility and stamina.
Every man over 40 should be in a regime of TRT.
Posted by: General Woundwort at September 25, 2012 03:40 AM (06lNq)
The point is not so much the salary, but the benefits. It's not like they can go get a job for only 6 months a year outside of football. No one would hire them for a 6 month gig in anything other than coaching so that they could get a job with health insurance.
The solution is for the league to jack their salary slightly and then purchase health, workman's comp and all the other fringes most people get.
After watching last night and about 3 BS games on Sunday, I for one would be happy to play. These refs suck
Posted by: Sean Bannion at September 25, 2012 03:40 AM (sbV1u)
http://t.co/epilavIi
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at September 25, 2012 03:41 AM (hO8IJ)
Posted by: Uncle Tio at September 25, 2012 03:41 AM (+I8Mq)
Posted by: Samuel Adams at September 25, 2012 03:42 AM (ZOf1l)
Posted by: San Antonio Rose at September 25, 2012 03:42 AM (XtUgG)
in other news...
Shut up and eat your peas, so says the government and Michelle O.
Are we still in America???
Posted by: spypeach at September 25, 2012 03:42 AM (pwTow)
That's some funny shit right there.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at September 25, 2012 03:42 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: Vic at September 25, 2012 03:42 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at September 25, 2012 03:43 AM (feFL6)
Posted by: Vegan in a Prius at September 25, 2012 03:43 AM (PD2ad)
Not to worry for fans. All month long it's Futbal for the NFL for National Hispanic whateverthehell month.
Mucho Mucho fans
Posted by: Bruce at September 25, 2012 03:43 AM (JI+T4)
How are they going to get better when there don't seem to be any consequences for them being worse than a band of retarded monkeys now.
Posted by: GMan at September 25, 2012 03:43 AM (sxq57)
Posted by: Samuel Adams at September 25, 2012 03:43 AM (ZOf1l)
Posted by: Polls suck at September 25, 2012 03:43 AM (XtUgG)
Sure, that might help a little, but the problem is I don't believe it.
Back when the Germans had 5 millions soldiers lined up on your border, or the Russians had hundreds of nuclear tipped warheads mounted on deliver systems that could get them here, you had reason to fear the end.
The Iranian Shecky Greene, doing his schtick in front of a bunch of U.N. drones doesn't quite cut it.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 25, 2012 03:44 AM (BeSEI)
Everyone makes mistakes, but with the "real" refs it was not as blatant and not as consistent.
These guys suck on EVERY play.
Some crews are better than otheres, true. If you ever watched a game crewed by Ed Hochuli, it was usually a well officiated game.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at September 25, 2012 03:45 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: Ball of Meat at September 25, 2012 03:45 AM (mxnUd)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at September 25, 2012 03:45 AM (9TTOe)
100% wrong. This is a side gig for every single one of them.
Go pick up a copy of the NFL Yearbook; there's a list in the back of the refs and their occupation. They're teachers/principals, real estate agents, lawyers (lots of lawyers), doctors, accountants, couple of small business owners.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at September 25, 2012 03:46 AM (hO8IJ)
Don't let the JEF embarrass us at the UN today
And please cure his damn lisp
Posted by: Navycopjoe (iphone5 snob)
Dontcha think Allah may have more influence with TFG.
Posted by: Dirks Strewn at September 25, 2012 03:46 AM (VLifP)
Posted by: Gran at September 25, 2012 03:46 AM (mw0FO)
Posted by: Samuel Adams at September 25, 2012 03:46 AM (ZOf1l)
Posted by: Refs suck at September 25, 2012 03:46 AM (XtUgG)
Nweed to get to work on spreadings the Gospel of SMOD Nice Deb didn't know what SMOD was...
Posted by: Sven10077 at September 25, 2012 03:47 AM (LRFds)
You'll note that my basic point still holds. Many (no, not all) of those jobs do not come with health insurance, and that's their point.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at September 25, 2012 03:48 AM (sbV1u)
Which means they get nothing from me.
Posted by: Vic at September 25, 2012 03:48 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: DTShangers at September 25, 2012 03:48 AM (LYqj5)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at September 25, 2012 03:49 AM (9TTOe)
Heaven forbid that a DIPLOMAT thug from a third world shit-hole not travel first class all the way (BTW, US Ambassadors are not really diplomats)!
Posted by: Barky O'Choom at September 25, 2012 03:49 AM (Cnqmv)
Posted by: Republic sinks slowly at September 25, 2012 03:49 AM (XtUgG)
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at September 25, 2012 03:50 AM (hO8IJ)
^^^THIS
It occurs in all fields of human endeavor, with no exceptions.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at September 25, 2012 03:50 AM (sbV1u)
https://twitter.com/Harlekwin15/status/250386605985128448 2010-2012
https://twitter.com/Harlekwin15/status/250362920528125952 2009-2012 %GDP
https://twitter.com/Harlekwin15/status/250362784880148480 2008-2012%GDP
https://twitter.com/Harlekwin15/status/250362623550423040 2001-2012 %GDP
https://twitter.com/Harlekwin15/status/250362378930233344 1994-2012 %GDP
The above links are to the charts.
if you only want to click one link and see the entire history of the US regaring debt as % of GDP here it is.
https://twitter.com/Harlekwin15/status/250361940457697280
Posted by: Sven10077 at September 25, 2012 03:50 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Bart who lurks with SMOD 2012, master of his domain at September 25, 2012 03:51 AM (he2LC)
Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at September 25, 2012 03:51 AM (feFL6)
Posted by: Samuel Adams at September 25, 2012 03:52 AM (ZOf1l)
I'm not saying you have to go back to old school, where guys were punching, kicking and biting each other after the play was dead. You could make the most blatant attempts to injure into penalties, but if a guy's helmet hits the other guy's, that's not a penalty! That's football.
Sheesh...
Oh, and go back to the days of no instant replay, period. If the refs blew the call on the field, they blew the call on the field. No take-backs, no oopsies, no surrender.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 25, 2012 03:53 AM (BeSEI)
Posted by: Drink the Koolaid and savor the flavor at September 25, 2012 03:53 AM (XtUgG)
Posted by: Tango & Cash at September 25, 2012 03:53 AM (8kIXE)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at September 25, 2012 03:55 AM (9TTOe)
Posted by: I agree Sam Adams and I 'll have another beer please at September 25, 2012 03:55 AM (XtUgG)
Posted by: Beagle at September 25, 2012 03:55 AM (sOtz/)
I agree, but they want it all. That's where I part company with the refs. I'm sympathetic to their need of health insurance, but I also think they can just take the salary cut and have the league buy it for them. It would be cheaper for them overall if the league did that.
The refs want the benefits, but do not want to give up the salary base to do it. That's the sticking point.
For me right now, the season is over. It hasn't even been fun to watch football the last 3 weeks. It's like watching a high school game. I'd be willing to pay more just to get decent officiating, but that's not a majority position.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at September 25, 2012 03:56 AM (sbV1u)
Oh yeah, I forgot that "health insurance paid for by someone else" is a human right. WTF.
You'll note that's still a laughable basic point. If they don't like that their full-time high-status white-collar job doesn't provide health insurance, they should go fix that instead of demanding their part-time job pick up the slack.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at September 25, 2012 03:57 AM (hO8IJ)
Workman's Comp is not a "benefit". It is a State legal function.
Posted by: Vic at September 25, 2012 03:58 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: Samuel Adams at September 25, 2012 07:36 AM (ZOf1l)
The really big problem for the NFL is that every week the leverage for the refs gets stronger. That's why they went and asked for that ridiculous "Pay us for the weeks we didn't work" crap. Greedy stupid fucking union bastards. But then Roger Goodell is a tyranical idiot in the mold of Bloomberg so a pox on both their houses.
Posted by: buzzion - Free Kratos at September 25, 2012 03:59 AM (GULKT)
Is reductio ad absurdum always your going-in position? Or is that just something special for me?
That's not what I said. Nor what I meant.
Seriously, what's up with you? Not enough coffee this morning?
Posted by: Sean Bannion at September 25, 2012 03:59 AM (sbV1u)
Hey, back when I was talking about publishing my book, you offered to give me some advice. I need it. Do you think we could chat?
Sure, OSP - just shoot me an e-mail through my nic.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 25, 2012 03:59 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: Samuel Adams at September 25, 2012 04:00 AM (ZOf1l)
You'll note that my basic point still holds. Many (no, not all) of those jobs do not come with health insurance, and that's their point
Doctors, lawyers and teachers don't get health insurance? Easy, Cracky McSmokington. This is a bullshit issue. Even more bullshitty is that they want pensions for their part-time jobs. Fuck that noise.
I can't stand Roger Goodell, but I hope he keeps those grabby cocksmokes locked out long enough to break their union.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at September 25, 2012 04:00 AM (JDIKC)
Yes, Vic. It's also considered "fringe" in the accounting department of any business.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at September 25, 2012 04:00 AM (sbV1u)
If you're making $150K for your part-time job, you can buy your own damned health insurance. And teachers get health insurance, doctors, naturally. If lawyers don't, they make way too much money anyway (cf. Sandra Fluke) so they can MORE than pay for their own.
Besides, Obamacare will save us all.
Posted by: AmishDude at September 25, 2012 04:00 AM (xSegX)
Posted by: Sven10077 at September 25, 2012 04:01 AM (LRFds)
Don't let the JEF embarrass us at the UN today
And please cure his damn lisp
Posted by: Navycopjoe (iphone5 snob) at September 25, 2012 07:01 AM (ddb4x)
-------->>>
Too Late
Posted by: YHWH at September 25, 2012 04:04 AM (xFgmp)
That would be because Romney is leading in the poll by 1.6%.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at September 25, 2012 04:04 AM (o7GQh)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at September 25, 2012 04:04 AM (8y9MW)
Who wants a humorous(and sweet) wedding proposal? Come on you know you want to see it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWJpJLJSPU
Posted by: buzzion - Free Kratos at September 25, 2012 04:04 AM (GULKT)
In order to do that I have to work 5 days a week getting the standard two weeks off a year and national holidays for 12 months.
The NFL refs make 150K working 4 hours 1 Day a week for 6 months.
Not feeling much sympathy for these refs.
Posted by: General Woundwort at September 25, 2012 04:05 AM (06lNq)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at September 25, 2012 04:05 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Bart who lurks with SMOD 2012, master of his domain at September 25, 2012 04:06 AM (he2LC)
Posted by: Beto at September 25, 2012 04:06 AM (+I8Mq)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at September 25, 2012 08:00 AM (sbV1u)
Yes, and that same accounting dept would consider your toenails a fringe.
Its not a "fringe" if the company is forced to provide it and can not drop it.
Posted by: Vic at September 25, 2012 04:07 AM (YdQQY)
It was close enough to make me smirk a little...
was good to see.
http://tinyurl.com/93z863m
Here's a Kitteh fix
Posted by: Sven10077 at September 25, 2012 04:08 AM (LRFds)
From Drudge
2012: Obama USDA offering women, hispanic farmers over $1.3 billion in "discriminations" payouts...
or as I like to call it backdoor reparations
Posted by: spypeach at September 25, 2012 04:09 AM (pwTow)
I did not say that. I said, and I quote, "Many (no, not all)"
A lot of small businesses do not carry health insurance. Again, no, not all of them.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at September 25, 2012 04:09 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: digitalbrownshirt at September 25, 2012 04:09 AM (eHwT1)
Its not a "fringe" if the company is forced to provide it and can not drop it.
Well, at least they give you the illusion of free will by letting you pick who to give your protection money to.
And when you fold your business and cancel your worker's comp policy, you will get a shit-tonne of auto-nastygrams from the state reminding you that coverage is mandatory.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at September 25, 2012 04:11 AM (JDIKC)
You got a cite for that? It's that written into some regulation as part of the Generally Accepted Accounting Principles?
Workman's comp, release time, health plans, FSAs, etc., etc., etc. are all considered "fringe" whether they are required by law or not.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at September 25, 2012 04:11 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: BurtTC at September 25, 2012 07:53 AM
Don't have to. But it would be fucking brilliant if they did. Gridiron used to be fucking amazing back in the day. It's gone a little twee in recent times. Bring back the biff. Same problem elsewhere, though, so it's not as though it's alone.Posted by: otho at September 25, 2012 04:13 AM (yBF/9)
Keep the replacement refs and train them well during the week. They'll get better.
Or....cancel the whole fucking season because I don't give a rat's ass about football. It's not baseball, so it doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 25, 2012 04:13 AM (2b4yb)
Old news. That was Pigford-II approved by Commie Congress in 2008 lame duck session.
Posted by: Vic at September 25, 2012 04:13 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: Bart who lurks with SMOD 2012, master of his domain at September 25, 2012 04:13 AM (he2LC)
Here's the link: http://thedc.com/UNLUzd
Posted by: MrScribbler at September 25, 2012 04:14 AM (ZgX/g)
Posted by: BurtTC at September 25, 2012 07:53 AM Yes, yes, yes. It's getting ridicularse...
Posted by: otho at September 25, 2012 04:14 AM (yBF/9)
Posted by: teej says go K-State at September 25, 2012 04:14 AM (QbKVX)
Posted by: Sven10077 at September 25, 2012 04:14 AM (LRFds)
No new polls in the RCP average, so I'm just waiting for VBJ to give us our early Rasmussen results. It will affect the average by about a tenth of a percent.
Yesterday, Romney had a 3.6% lead.
Today, based on an idea JohnE gave me last night, I'm going to add a range of averages. I'm going to start posting 4 values, current Rasmussen Party ID, 2004 voter ID, 2008 voter ID, and 2010 voter ID.
You can then pick your preferred version of optimism.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at September 25, 2012 04:15 AM (o7GQh)
Posted by: Sven10077 at September 25, 2012 04:15 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop at September 25, 2012 04:16 AM (xFgmp)
I read a case study in some stupid business class I took about a company that gave no benefits at all. They did the legal minimum, and nothing else. What they did do was pay their employees on quality and production.
I think it was called Lincoln Electric, and they built welding sets, or something like that.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 25, 2012 04:16 AM (2b4yb)
@133 I knew about pigford, but why are they making it seem like it something new by announcing it on Monday?
...Secretary of Agriculture Tom Vilsack announced Monday that Hispanic and women farmers and ranchers who believe USDA discriminated against them can file claims to get a piece of at least $1.33 billion in cash awards and tax relief payments and up to $160 million in farm debt relief, beginning this week....
Posted by: spypeach at September 25, 2012 04:16 AM (pwTow)
Good news everyone:
Abe Vigoda is alive
Page loaded Tuesday September 25 2012 5:16:58 AM PT
Posted by: chemjeff at September 25, 2012 04:17 AM (d/5qf)
I dunno. I was watching the Pats game and at one point I watched a blatant, and I mean blatant, defensive pass inference call blown.....5 feet from the ref, with no obstructions, directly in front of him. Even Cris Collinsworth said, "Wow. Just....wow."
Not so sure these guys are trainable after seeing that. They're just not used to the pace of the pro game. They need like 2 seasons to get their heads around it.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at September 25, 2012 04:17 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: Vic at September 25, 2012 08:13 AM
Theft is not "old news," Vic. Doesn't matter if it came from the eunuchs in Congress or straight from Choom Boy.
At some point, the shit gets real, and we all will have to pay for this kind of idiocy.
Posted by: MrScribbler at September 25, 2012 04:17 AM (ZgX/g)
Way out of the headlines, but my oldest son is serving his last day in the Navy today. He's been in the Navy for 5 years including a really f'd up stint in Helmand Province, Afghanistan and has never been on a ship during his entire hitch. He's getting melancholy on his Facebook, I expect he'll be living the AoSHQ livestyle for the rest of the week.
Posted by: digitalbrownshirt at September 25, 2012 04:17 AM (eHwT1)
Posted by: digitalbrownshirt at September 25, 2012 08:17 AM (eHwT1)
Please tell your son thanks for his service, hope you have a happy reunion with him
Posted by: chemjeff at September 25, 2012 04:19 AM (d/5qf)
Thomas Sowell pointing out the race Obama V Obama
Posted by: Sven10077 at September 25, 2012 04:19 AM (LRFds)
My primary problem with that line of thinking is that I don't deserver what America will get in that instance.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at September 25, 2012 04:19 AM (8y9MW)
Will do and....Go Wildcats!
I have a lot of fond memories of "The Little Apple." I spent 6 years at Riley on 2 different tours.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at September 25, 2012 04:19 AM (sbV1u)
Serious question.
How many woman and hispanic farmers are there in the US?
And are these real farmers i.e actually producing stuff?
Posted by: General Woundwort at September 25, 2012 04:19 AM (06lNq)
Posted by: Truman North, iPhone battery low at September 25, 2012 04:20 AM (I2LwF)
No, this is a new round of payoffs to buy the votes they missed last year.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 25, 2012 04:20 AM (2b4yb)
Workman's comp, release time, health plans, FSAs, etc., etc., etc. are all considered "fringe" whether they are required by law or not<<<<
I have never seen the word "fringe" appear in a Chart of Accounts. I've seen "Fucking Sales Tax" because I may have written it.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at September 25, 2012 04:20 AM (JDIKC)
The people who make the shitty decisions never have to suffer the consequences. That's for the proles. Thus it has always been.
There never was a "Golden Age" of politics in America, was there?
Posted by: Sean Bannion at September 25, 2012 04:21 AM (sbV1u)
FoxNews op/ed saying Obama is going to swerve the audience and chat at about "preserving free speech and educating not appeasing islam"
ie maintain S Rice's lying habit
Posted by: Sven10077 at September 25, 2012 04:21 AM (LRFds)
Bruce Springsteen is classified as a farmer by the state of NJ.
Unfortunately I am not joking.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 25, 2012 04:22 AM (2b4yb)
Posted by: Thorvald at September 25, 2012 04:22 AM (1V6Pv)
I LOLd. I was sitting next to a CPA when I wrote that. He told me I was not, in fact, delusional.
But....you know what they say about CPAs.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at September 25, 2012 04:23 AM (sbV1u)
That's what I was getting at.
I read an article that there are some people who live in NYC who have roof top gardens that are classified as farmers.
This is why we need to blow up Government at every level.
They are literally throwing our money away!!
Posted by: General Woundwort at September 25, 2012 04:24 AM (06lNq)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at September 25, 2012 04:25 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: teej says go K-State at September 25, 2012 04:25 AM (6Zy+s)
Posted by: GMan at September 25, 2012 07:43 AM (sxq57)
How about all those consequences for the old refs....oh wait, there were none. Full time Refs(meaning reviews and consequences for teh suck)and all scoring reviewed from NFL HQ just like NHL.
Posted by: Red Shirt at September 25, 2012 04:26 AM (FIDMq)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at September 25, 2012 04:26 AM (JDIKC)
Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at September 25, 2012 04:28 AM (feFL6)
Welcome back, Vic! I was beginning to think your toilet replacement job went terribly wrong or something...
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at September 25, 2012 04:28 AM (UTq/I)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. We're not worthy. at September 25, 2012 07:38 AM (Gk3SS)
I think the ultimate fuck you to the savages would be to throw it in their face. You know, totally over the top sexual behavior. But you'd have to publicly document it for them to really burn over it.
Posted by: BCochran1981 at September 25, 2012 04:29 AM (da5Wo)
Long live the replacement refs! A big heart's out for these brave guys!
Posted by: Cowboy at September 25, 2012 04:30 AM (zvwt5)
When it was passed one of the Republicans cited a settlement for guy who had potted tomatoes on his front porch. He got the full $50,000 payment.
The only qualification at that time was that you grew something and you were black.
Posted by: Vic at September 25, 2012 04:31 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD is on Team Alice at September 25, 2012 04:34 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: Rondinellamamma at September 25, 2012 04:34 AM (53riN)
"The simple truth is that Democrats have long enjoyed an edge on the party ID question. The Pew Research Center, widely considered the gold standard in non-partisan polling, has scads of data to prove that point."
Pew is the gold standard in non-partisan polling? Who knew?
Posted by: Dave in Fla at September 25, 2012 04:34 AM (o7GQh)
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at September 25, 2012 08:28 AM (UTq/I)
The one downstairs was easy-peasy. It was the original toilet from the 50s. The one upstairs was a POS due to being replaced by a "licensed" plumber about 10 years ago. He shitted it up bad. Had to go down and get a flange repair kit and of course the battery in my electric drill was dead so had to charge that first.
Posted by: Vic at September 25, 2012 04:35 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD is on Team Alice at September 25, 2012 08:34
They're not just college refs, although the ones from college are from Division II and lower, since Division I refs either didn't want to, or weren't allowed to officiate. (Not sure why they passed on it, they would have at least been a bit better) There are also Arena Football and Lingerie League refs.
And it shows.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at September 25, 2012 04:37 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: Thorvald at September 25, 2012 04:38 AM (1V6Pv)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD is on Team Alice at September 25, 2012 04:38 AM (VtjlW)
(Reuters) - Electric car maker Tesla Motors Inc (TSLA) on Tuesday cut its forecast for 2012 revenue, citing a slower-than-expected rollout of its Model S sedan.
The company said in a regulatory filing that it now expects full-year revenue in the range of $400 million to $440 million, down from its prior outlook of $560 million to $600 million.
"We have methodically increased our Model S production at a rate slower than we had earlier anticipated," the company said in documents filed with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission.
Have no fear, I'm sure that Barry could send a cool $500 million their way
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 25, 2012 04:39 AM (1Jaio)
Posted by: Dave in Fla at September 25, 2012 04:40 AM (o7GQh)
D1 refs are controlled by the NFL Refs Association (or whatever the hell they're called). Same people. So no, D1 refs can't cross.
I thought tie went to the receiver.
True, but it actually has to be a "simultaneous possession." They went over the rule for that last night after it happened. That play doesn't come close to simultaneous possession.
Posted by: BCochran1981 at September 25, 2012 04:40 AM (da5Wo)
There are several news sites (usually small, niche sites) run by Conservatives that strive for "balance" and "objectivity." They try (I know, because I write for a couple of them, when I have the time and a good subject) to be as even-handed as possible. This is even true in their opinion pieces- albeit to a lesser extent.
I have not found one news site that has said, "We'll be objective and avoid spin when the Mainstream Press does the same," and then gone on actively to spin for Republicans. And I think it's time.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at September 25, 2012 04:40 AM (8y9MW)
There is nothing like walking down that after-brow for the last time with your sea-bag over your shoulder. I had a grin on my face from ear to ear.
Posted by: Vic at September 25, 2012 04:40 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: rickb223 at September 25, 2012 04:41 AM (zji3t)
As much as the replacement refs piss me off (and I'm a Pats fan, so yeah, I'm PISSED) , I'm not going to put all the pressure solely on Goodell and the owners to compromise. There are two sides to this contract dispute, and I tend to be predisposed to oppose any group that makes a pension requirement part of their initial contract demands.
I'll tell you one thing: when the regular refs DO come back, they'd better be damn near perfect. Otherwise whatever concessions are made to get them back on the field will have been too much, IMO. But they DO have to get back on the field, and soon; the games are getting way too out of hand with the substitute teachers on the field.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter [/b][/i][/u] at September 25, 2012 04:42 AM (4df7R)
Don't let the JEF embarrass us at the UN today
And please cure his damn lisp
Posted by: Navycopjoe (iphone5 snob) at September 25, 2012 07:01 AM (ddb4x)
I hope you're willing to be disappointed, NCJ.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter [/b][/i][/u] at September 25, 2012 04:42 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 25, 2012 04:43 AM (oSFWF)
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at September 25, 2012 04:44 AM (DuH+r)
Throwing money away. There's no way to save the guy. He wanted to be Mr. buck the establishment, then let him get there on his own. Akin is a selfish asshole and Demint shouldn't be desperate.
The way I look at it, Akin just held that nomination hostage.
Posted by: AmishDude at September 25, 2012 04:44 AM (xSegX)
Posted by: Truman North, iPhone battery low at September 25, 2012 04:45 AM (LjzEN)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 25, 2012 04:46 AM (oSFWF)
Posted by: Lincolntf at September 25, 2012 04:46 AM (HethX)
http://youtu.be/TIqdyLmeV28
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 25, 2012 04:46 AM (WXoUE)
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 45% more DOOM! at September 25, 2012 04:46 AM (xAtAj)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD is on Team Alice at September 25, 2012 04:46 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: Jean at September 25, 2012 04:47 AM (Mpktm)
Posted by: JackStraw at September 25, 2012 04:47 AM (TMB3S)
Posted by: rickb223 at September 25, 2012 04:48 AM (zji3t)
Posted by: Lincolntf at September 25, 2012 08:46 AM (HethX)
That's basically my opinion, too. I'm just worried that someone is going to get very seriously injured in the interim, and that's not in ANYONE'S interest.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter [/b][/i][/u] at September 25, 2012 04:49 AM (4df7R)
Allen,
An impartial press was always a myth. It goes against human nature. There are topics that lend themselves to objective reporting, like fires and robberies.
As soon as there's an issue with two sides, it is unrealistic to expect bias not to creep in.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at September 25, 2012 04:49 AM (vaKm1)
You're drawing pro pay, right? You'll be there for years and years to come. They love you long time.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at September 25, 2012 04:49 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: The Robot Devil at September 25, 2012 04:49 AM (136wp)
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at September 25, 2012 08:44 AM (DuH+r)
US Government: Please allow me to introduce myself
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 25, 2012 04:49 AM (1Jaio)
Posted by: VBJonny at September 25, 2012 04:50 AM (bED4B)
Posted by: Barry's Big Day at September 25, 2012 04:50 AM (38ReL)
Too late.
Darrius Heyward-Bey could not be reached for comment.
In his hospital room.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at September 25, 2012 04:50 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: Dave in Fla at September 25, 2012 08:40 AM (o7GQh)
Yeah I read that in the paper here today.
I don't know if it would make a difference at this point. Might be a lost cause.
Posted by: chemjeff at September 25, 2012 04:50 AM (d/5qf)
Posted by: The Robot Devil at September 25, 2012 04:52 AM (136wp)
Posted by: Jean at September 25, 2012 04:52 AM (Mpktm)
I'm not going to put any of the pressure on Goodell and the owners. Fuck the unions- all of them.
Let's say they put in as much prep time during the week and just before the season as the actual players (not completely unreasonable) that means they're working full-time for 6 months. Less than that, really, for most of them, because they don't need all those officiating crews during the postseason. For that, they're being paid $150,000. That's not exactly chump-change.
On top of that, I'm virtually certain the league already pays 100% of their expenses for games (travel, lodging, food). The league already has to provide worker's comp (that's state-by-state, but every state requires it, so whatever state in which the league is incorporated would set the specifics of that, I think), so that shouldn't be an issue.
So what they want is a pension. For what? They're not players- they're not getting their heads smashed every game. When they decide to retire, they should still be of sound mind an body. Not only that, but a long football (playing) career is 10 years or so. Sometimes longer for kickers and such, usually much shorter (I think I once heard the average for a non-starting lineman was something like 1.5 seasons). Many of those refs have been officiating for 15+ years in the NFL, and you know they didn't start as Professional refs.
I don't begrudge them one cent they can make. I do begrudge them trying to sabotage other people's jobs (and therefore livelihoods) by trying to torpedo the whole season. You don't like what the NFL is offering? Go get a different job. Good luck finding one that will pay you $150,000 for 6 months of work.
Well, besides being a teacher.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at September 25, 2012 04:52 AM (8y9MW)
Good news for Tom Brady though.
I like Revis actually. He's fierce. It's Cromartie I can't stand. Then again, I hate shit talkers of all shapes and sizes.
Deeds, not words.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at September 25, 2012 04:52 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: The Robot Devil at September 25, 2012 04:53 AM (136wp)
Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at September 25, 2012 08:43 AM
In other "water is wet" news....
There is nothing Choom Boy gets that doesn't come out of our pockets one way or another. Sure, that little grass shack may have been purchased by a "donor," but it wouldn't surprise me to see that he got some loot from the Stimuli, or maybe even a slice of the Pigford giveaway.
The Traitor-in-Chief should be residing in a taxpayer-supported cell at Leavenworth, anyway. The fact that he will be allowed to walk away from the White House with his nose in the air and not be led away to orange-jumpsuit-land in cuffs galls me beyond words.
Posted by: MrScribbler at September 25, 2012 04:53 AM (ZgX/g)
http://preview.tinyurl.com/9n44k72
(Buttressing Mark Steyn's point about national power following national wealth... and you thought TFG was trying to fix the economy. Hah! All the evidence shows otherwise, except broad market averages (but you need to pump that to increase liquidity/campaign contributions from deeply confused capitalists)).
Posted by: Thorvald at September 25, 2012 04:55 AM (1V6Pv)
Posted by: The Robot Devil at September 25, 2012 04:55 AM (136wp)
Posted by: William Dozier at September 25, 2012 04:55 AM (/ZZCn)
He can still win.
I also agree that he is a selfish asshole. I'm sorry for the people of Missouri having to choose between these two.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at September 25, 2012 04:55 AM (o7GQh)
Posted by: cajun carrot at September 25, 2012 04:55 AM (UZQM8)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 25, 2012 04:55 AM (oSFWF)
Damn, damn, damn. Well, you should at least give a detailed blow by blow.
Posted by: BCochran1981 at September 25, 2012 04:56 AM (da5Wo)
Are you effin' kidding me?
Seriously???
Posted by: Sean Bannion at September 25, 2012 04:56 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: AmishDude at September 25, 2012 08:44 AM (xSegX)
The latest MO poll says he is ahead.
Posted by: Vic at September 25, 2012 04:57 AM (YdQQY)
Actually, that's my point, EoJ. Why even pretend not to be biased anymore. Start a news org that says, "A Conservative Perspective" and go from there.
Certainly reporting on actual events (a fire, a robbery, etc.) should be as free of fluff (and, therefore, bias) as possible, but all the other stuff- just admit a Conservative slant and move on with it.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at September 25, 2012 04:57 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 25, 2012 04:57 AM (WXoUE)
Posted by: BCochran1981 at September 25, 2012 04:58 AM (da5Wo)
So I'm just a bit pissed off this morning. An idiot judge here in NH threw out the requirement of our voter ID law that would require students to establish legal residency in the state to vote here, because it's too onerous. That is such unbelievable bullshit. I'm spitting with rage. Someone at the WMUR news site tried to pull the "it's a poll tax" argument, and I very nearly had a stroke from pure, unadulterated rage.
I hate people. I just hate them.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter [/b][/i][/u] at September 25, 2012 04:58 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 25, 2012 04:59 AM (oSFWF)
Posted by: The Robot Devil at September 25, 2012 04:59 AM (136wp)
To borrow one of my fave moron lines: "I denounce myself!"
Posted by: Thorvald at September 25, 2012 04:59 AM (1V6Pv)
Posted by: Golan Globus at September 25, 2012 05:00 AM (/1U3u)
Posted by: Beagle at September 25, 2012 05:00 AM (sOtz/)
1:1
Odds on Barky proclaiming he's capable of doing a better job?
Posted by: Fritz at September 25, 2012 05:01 AM (/ZZCn)
Egyptian President Morsi Tepid on U.S.-Egypt Relationship
Posted by: panzernashorn at September 25, 2012 05:01 AM (BAnPT)
What Jewish holiday? I'm the only one left in my family, and I only celebrate with one of the dancers from Platinum Plus. I recently learned the latest fad of snorting a chopped up vitamin C from a dancers ass. It was a great experience, and Little Abe was ready for duty most of the night. We're going to rest now, so say goodnight Little Abe.
Posted by: Abe Vigoda at September 25, 2012 05:01 AM (ndqJC)
Posted by: The Robot Devil at September 25, 2012 05:01 AM (136wp)
Posted by: Golan Globus at September 25, 2012 05:02 AM (/1U3u)
Posted by: Justamom in Achin' Akin's district at September 25, 2012 05:02 AM (Sptt8)
Bill Kristol is saying Obama helped turn around the problems from Bush administration. I once thought he just didn't like Romney, now I just don't think he likes the Republican Party anymore.
His father was once a communist before he became a neo-con. Communists should never be allowed in the GOP even if they renounce their cause.
I'm not listening to any polling today. And I hope all Hectors and Gregs run off and find Ron Paul's forum today.
Posted by: Mo the girl at September 25, 2012 05:03 AM (NNOIg)
Posted by: Redd at September 25, 2012 05:03 AM (guxHP)
Posted by: Gran at September 25, 2012 05:03 AM (mw0FO)
Posted by: teej says go K-State at September 25, 2012 05:03 AM (/tk/V)
Posted by: chemjeff at September 25, 2012 05:03 AM (d/5qf)
Posted by: The Robot Devil at September 25, 2012 05:03 AM (136wp)
@Jean,
So who resolves the eventual impasse?
I don't favor "fixing" the current model. The market will provide alternatives. It always does.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at September 25, 2012 05:04 AM (vaKm1)
Posted by: Media Fact checkers at September 25, 2012 05:05 AM (/1U3u)
Posted by: Redd at September 25, 2012 05:05 AM (guxHP)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 25, 2012 05:05 AM (WXoUE)
@233
"Odds on the Dog Eater commenting on the Refs this week?"
100% higher than him mentioning the fact Shia Iran and its allies are already at war inside Syria against a huge array of Sunni groups and forces. Pasdaran, Basij, the lot. Already affecting Lebanon, Iraq, Turkey... Over a million people facing starvation and a quarter million plus refugees. Best part: it's only starting to get really hot.
The media basically didn't cover a huge combined fixed and rotor air strike on Aleppo killing over fifty people yesterday. The juxtaposition of our breezy president and the real world might be too jarring for the remaining thinkers out there.
Posted by: Beagle at September 25, 2012 05:05 AM (sOtz/)
I'm not going to put any of the pressure on Goodell and the owners. Fuck the unions- all of them.
Oddly enough, that's almost EXACTLY what I say when I wake up every morning.
*alarm rings*
*MWR grumbles and shuts off alarm*
*sits up, yawns, stretches*
"Fuck the unions. All of them."
(this morning I added the special caveat, "Especially the fucking refs.")
I find it's a healthy, beneficial way to start the day.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter [/b][/i][/u] at September 25, 2012 05:05 AM (4df7R)
Here you go.
http://tinyurl.com/75q9can
Posted by: General Woundwort at September 25, 2012 05:05 AM (06lNq)
Posted by: Nash Rambler at September 25, 2012 05:06 AM (LZ7QO)
...
They acted stupidly.
Posted by: Oboomer at September 25, 2012 09:03 AM (BAnPT)
The only time he would be right.
I thought the booth review guys are the regular booth review guys, not replacements, right?
Posted by: Tami at September 25, 2012 05:06 AM (X6akg)
U.S. Constitution, Article III - "but no attainder of treason shall work corruption of blood."
Jus' sayin'
Posted by: Sean Bannion at September 25, 2012 05:07 AM (sbV1u)
http://alturl.com/d6z6u
Latest Romney gaffe. Rolleyes.
Posted by: Golan Globus at September 25, 2012 09:02 AM (/1U3u)
Yahoo is so predictably left wing now, it's almost laughable.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 25, 2012 05:07 AM (1Jaio)
Posted by: Golan Globus at September 25, 2012 05:07 AM (/1U3u)
Posted by: The Robot Devil at September 25, 2012 05:08 AM (136wp)
Michael Dowda, 48, was discovered missing at about 3 p.m. Saturday from a work detail with maintenance at the penitentiary.
Officials said he will now face more charges including escape.
Investigators said Dowda may have stolen two guns from the home of a corrections employee who lives on the prison grounds.
The escape has some people who live outside another state prison nervous.
"That's ridiculous because that's a state prison," resident Tangynikia Wiggins said. "(They) should have extra, extra security up there. Nobody should be able to escape from up there."
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 25, 2012 05:08 AM (WXoUE)
Posted by: tofer732 at September 25, 2012 05:08 AM (2zM0P)
I vaguely remember many cheesy science fiction movies where sports were re-envisioned to become horribly, fantastically violent bloodsports, like Rollerball and whatnot.
Not going to be our future. Damned disappointing if you ask me.
Posted by: uterus cannon at September 25, 2012 05:09 AM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: Redd at September 25, 2012 05:09 AM (guxHP)
Cha-ching!
Posted by: Dish of Red at September 25, 2012 05:09 AM (Dmq63)
Posted by: Justamom in Achin' Akin's district at September 25, 2012 05:10 AM (Sptt8)
Posted by: Gergle at September 25, 2012 05:10 AM (GvYeG)
Posted by: toby928© for TB at September 25, 2012 05:11 AM (QupBk)
--Tami 262
Then given the frequency of successfully fooling people, since even a broken clock is accurate twice a day, I have some catchin' up. The chickens are comin' home to roooost. They acted stupidly.
Posted by: Oboomer at September 25, 2012 05:11 AM (BAnPT)
Posted by: Golan Globus at September 25, 2012 05:11 AM (/1U3u)
because he's a Ron Paul nut, and that's what Ron Paul nuts do
Posted by: chemjeff at September 25, 2012 05:11 AM (d/5qf)
But he is right, since one of the major sticking points is a pension.....for part time employees. A pension? You know what other part time employees have a pension....Illinois state legislators. And since 2/3rd of our state's pension funding is unfunded....yea, that worked out well.
THIS. This pisses me off SO much. None of the NFL's full-time employees get a pension, and the refs want one for part-time work? When all of them already have FULL TIME jobs outside of football? Bullshit. No.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter [/b][/i][/u] at September 25, 2012 05:12 AM (4df7R)
What am I missing? Even Ras has McCaskill up in MO right now.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at September 25, 2012 05:12 AM (sbV1u)
in the debates he will not watch them. Why would he keep repeating this?
------------
All he has left to do while waiting on the mothership full of weed to take him away?
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 25, 2012 05:13 AM (WXoUE)
Posted by: cajun carrot at September 25, 2012 05:13 AM (UZQM8)
----
That was teh funneh. What's pathetic, and we all know this, is that you only need to change a few minor elements in that storyline and it couldn't be more truthful. Loved the "AP pic" where they were researching TFG's workout regimen that put him in top physical condition for the murder. lulz
Posted by: Lady in Black at September 25, 2012 05:14 AM (lTVJy)
Oh this is going to be fun.
Want to know how big Obama's lead is using the 2008 turnout model?
1.6%
Current RCP average Obama lead?
3.7%
So the RCP average uses poll that estimate turnout about double that of the 2008 wave.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at September 25, 2012 05:14 AM (o7GQh)
RE: the two prison escape stories posted above.
Excuse me, what the fuck were two convicted murderers sentenced to life in prison for their crimes doing on MINIMUM SECURITY work details?
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter [/b][/i][/u] at September 25, 2012 05:14 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: JackStraw at September 25, 2012 05:14 AM (TMB3S)
Our 28 yr old "son", who is actually a kid we casually adopted from the neighborhood 12 years ago just landed in our guest room. Hardest working young man I've ever known.
Goes and gets a gal pregnant, she with two other kids from two other men, on welfare blah blah, and he convinces her to become an honest woman and marries her.
She gets thrown off welfare, foodstamps, state childcare, blah blah because of the marriage, and decides to throw him out yesterday after a year of marriage because, wait for it......
The state can provide better for her. Yes, her name is Julia. And I'm furious.
Posted by: Derak at September 25, 2012 05:16 AM (VEhDR)
Posted by: Tami at September 25, 2012 08:56 AM (X6akg)
And never were
==============
So...they're lying to Rasmussen about their party ID? That would mess up Rasmussen's weighting, for sure.
But why think they would be doing that?
I admit I'm mystified that 90+% of Republicans would not be supporting Romney.
Posted by: edj at September 25, 2012 05:19 AM (+QKfp)
MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Posted by: cajun carrot at September 25, 2012 08:55 AM (UZQM
Esther you is ugly
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 25, 2012 05:20 AM (1Jaio)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD is on Team Alice at September 25, 2012 05:22 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: teej says go K-State at September 25, 2012 05:23 AM (GX2fm)
Posted by: Conservative Crank at September 25, 2012 05:46 AM (1zwZo)
Posted by: Romneylosesbig at September 25, 2012 05:54 AM (HgJZ+)
Posted by: digitalbrownshirt at September 25, 2012 06:12 AM (eHwT1)
Posted by: Conservative Crank at September 25, 2012 06:12 AM (1zwZo)
Posted by: Conservative Crank at September 25, 2012 06:16 AM (1zwZo)
Posted by: Brother Cavil presents at September 25, 2012 06:18 AM (GBXon)
Posted by: Brother Cavil presents at September 25, 2012 06:19 AM (GBXon)
Posted by: Nash Rambler at September 25, 2012 06:30 AM (LZ7QO)
...because he's a Ron Paul nu...
chemjeff 278--yada yada yada
Angst is legitimate, however, when Mitt's not given his fair share of network news broadcast messaging, or if Mitt were misrepresented.
Not surprised, given that you've never bothered studying Gary Johnson's own platform, let alone Ron Paul's. Boo, hiss libertarian Goldwater and early R-Reagan outmoded Taft Republicans who dare to bitterly cling to that inconvenient and outmoded, revolutionary US Constitution. Nah, better stick to augmenting for our own good Patriot Act, DHS and interventionist first "nation building" strike aggressive wars to destroy every sovereign nation state including our own. Constitutional Republic? Bill of Rights? pfft , get "real".
You perceive a threat by allowing the peon Gary Johnson voice in national debate. Yet, studying beyond propaganda does not pose a threat to the nation, only to those who insist a monopoly on idea and form, aka authoritarians. Consider trifecta, allowing the punching bag in for cover.
Most watching the R vs. D candidate gussied up WWW fixed match debates are getting drunk, high or fixed. Understandably, it is unpleasant to swallow shit while sober. Since I've spent 20 years listening to EVERYONE and have researched independently, the debates won't teach anything new, and won't entertain me, either. As if Mitt's impromptu responses while under attack from the hosts (Obama's One Voice) has a better chance than the warrior's '08 results had. Been there; done that.
Mitt wants to win? He has the money but evidently still lacks the votes. Either he needs to manipulate the count, or else actually get more voters. He knows all about salesmanship, yet he just can't connect to voters earning below $200K/year.
Becoming POTUS has been his life's goal since his dad's campaign. Being "presidential" to Mitt? Silencing opposition. Staying above the fray translates as ignoring those who just don't fit in to the big shot picture that no longer holds a place for the highly skilled American workers, including non-union artisans in right to work states. "Kiss those jobs goodbye. They are gone, and they'll NEVER come back." Romney '08.
Refusing to recognize that the $50-$80K/year income families are the median, not the $200-$250K/year whose support Mitt already has does Romney's chances no favor. It's Mitt's problem that he yet fails to connect with most people. "Trust Mitt" sells no differently than "Hope and Change" -- repackaged brand identity.
You think that it helps Mitt to win by flame throwing vs. Goldwater Republicans? Even as the libertarian-Republicans remain dedicated to vote (R) 2012, you burn libertarian-constitutional conservatives at the stake for heresy v. the neoconservative established futurism that coincidentally holds those US citizens earning below $200K/yr beneath contempt, tagged as "self made victims" who have no productive place to prosper beyond the realm of lip service in Mitt's world. Mitt was and remains as ever an authoritarian global corporatist. Mark Levin et al. screeched against corporatist Statism until Mitt got the GOP '12 ticket. Go figure. In the end, hope and change has the same trajectory as "trust" in a Rockefeller Neoconservative Republican. "assimilate"
Posted by: panzernashorn at September 25, 2012 06:32 AM (BAnPT)
Not surprised, given that you've never bothered studying Gary Johnson's own platform, let alone Ron Paul's.
I don't really care to study the political platforms of druggies and anti-semites.
Posted by: buzzion - Free Kratos at September 25, 2012 06:41 AM (GULKT)
Posted by: Conservative Crank at September 25, 2012 06:44 AM (1zwZo)
This has got to be the stupidest fuck'n argument ever.
Posted by: lowandslow at September 25, 2012 07:04 AM (GZitp)
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Posted by: Dave in Fla at September 25, 2012 08:04 AM (o7GQh)
What are the odds on taking a majority of the Senate. I am getting begging mail from the Senate candidates to whom I sent money.
Posted by: Will Never Vote For a dhimmocrat at September 25, 2012 07:21 AM (kXoT0)
Posted by: SpongeBob Saget at September 25, 2012 09:42 AM (SDkq3)
I do believe that is what he is hoping for, and seeking our help in gaining custody.
Sadly, this incredible young man is functionally illiterate. But he can build a house like no ones business.
So it looks like paperwork and court systems are in our future.
I wish I could make these young people understand that their actions have major life altering consequences. I guess he knows that now. Sadly.
Posted by: Derak at September 25, 2012 09:51 AM (VEhDR)
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