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November 20, 2012

Top Ten Sci-Fi Weapons You Can Buy Right Now
— Ace

Well you can't buy them. The American government can, though.

Just some filler while I wake up, before I start poaching all of Ben's links.

Weapon X, the Laser Avenger, is a vehicle-based laser that can take out an aircraft. Well, a drone, at least. The 1 kilowatt beam is weak. But a 100 kilowatt beam is coming, supposedly soon.

Not mentioned here are the various sniper/gunfire detection and location systems, which use either accoustics or optics (the latter by beaming laser light around, looking for reflections from the sniper's scope's lens) to pinpoint the location of a hidden shooter.

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1 Hellooooooo.

Posted by: RioBravo at November 20, 2012 07:15 AM (eEfYn)

2 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at November 20, 2012 07:15 AM (8y9MW)

3 Plagiarism is the most sincere form of flattery.

Posted by: johnd01 at November 20, 2012 07:17 AM (ukNFU)

4 I suspect that those acoustic detection systems will work better than the laser systems.

Posted by: Vic at November 20, 2012 07:17 AM (YdQQY)

5 The information contained in this post means nothing until we see it a second time.

Posted by: The Mega Independent[/i] at November 20, 2012 07:17 AM (6C2/D)

No splodey ninja stars?

No sharks with frickin' lasers?

Posted by: uterus cannon at November 20, 2012 07:17 AM (3ZtZW)

7 Did I break the thread. i will never key 'hellooooo' again....

Posted by: RioBravo at November 20, 2012 07:17 AM (eEfYn)

8 Barack Obama is *still* a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at November 20, 2012 08:16 AM (8y9MW)

I always liked the sound of a phased plasma rifle in a 40 watt range. Of course, I also wondered about the 40 watt range, since i can buy a far more powerful blow drier. But then it's not phased, is it?

I still want one, before the ban takes effect.

Posted by: Advo at November 20, 2012 08:17 AM (7vbG1)

10 I like the one where Chandler's laser pointer broke in the middle of that big presentation.

Posted by: The Mega Independent[/i] at November 20, 2012 08:18 AM (6C2/D)

11 The Crossbow Project. There's No Defense Like a Good Offense.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at November 20, 2012 08:18 AM (ZKzrr)

12 100 kW laser is highly fapworthy and possibly even militarily useful.

Posted by: joncelli at November 20, 2012 08:18 AM (RD7QR)

13 Dammit Ace, quit publicizing my toys...

Posted by: Country Singer at November 20, 2012 08:19 AM (L8r/r)

14 9 I always liked the sound of a phased plasma rifle in a 40 watt range. --- Beat me to it.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge. at November 20, 2012 08:20 AM (e0xKF)

15 @ 11 - Umm, you haven't seen Lazlo any where recently have you?

Posted by: Al Shabbah at November 20, 2012 08:21 AM (MLJu8)

16 Just give me a warthog and I can F your shit up plenty.

Posted by: eleven at November 20, 2012 08:21 AM (KXm42)

17 Hmmmpphhh.. let me know when they gots a tractor beam. Oh yeah.. and photon torpedoes... the twinkly ones!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 20, 2012 08:22 AM (f9c2L)

18 What could possibly be better than a giant gatling gun with wings.

Posted by: eleven at November 20, 2012 08:22 AM (KXm42)

19 The new Phantom UAV that Boeing put out is pretty cool.

Plus the Boeing HEL MD for shooting shit down is a nice touch.

Posted by: marcus at November 20, 2012 08:22 AM (GGCsk)

20 I always liked the sound of a phased plasma rifle in a 40 watt range.

Just what you see here pal.

Posted by: eleven at November 20, 2012 08:23 AM (KXm42)

21 Funny how we keep building all this high tech weaponry and all roads keep leading back to the .308 cartridge...

Posted by: marcus at November 20, 2012 08:24 AM (GGCsk)

22 I'm waiting for man-portable rail-guns.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at November 20, 2012 08:24 AM (8y9MW)

23 Funny how we keep building all this high tech weaponry and all roads keep leading back to the .308 cartridge...

Or a giant gatling gun wiith wings.

Posted by: eleven at November 20, 2012 08:25 AM (KXm42)

24 I want a mass driver.

Posted by: Berserker at November 20, 2012 08:26 AM (FMbng)

25 Porn is the opiate of the Masses. That's why it's now free.

Posted by: pornquotes.com at November 20, 2012 08:28 AM (x9s9/)

26 21 Funny how we keep building all this high tech weaponry and all roads keep leading back to the .308 cartridge...

Posted by: marcus at November 20, 2012 12:24 PM (GGCsk)

Yeah, can't roll out a replacement for the M-16/5.56mm NATO for love or money yet we have tech that can count a person's nose hair from 20 km away.

Posted by: joncelli at November 20, 2012 08:29 AM (RD7QR)

27 I'm waiting for Heinlein's "Planet Cracking Nova Bomb" from Starship Troopers. That sounds like one to stock up on.

Posted by: Rob McNeece at November 20, 2012 08:30 AM (hNXHo)

28 Garrett invented a bullet shield that looks like a colorful umbrella.

Posted by: ace at November 20, 2012 08:31 AM (LCRYB)

29 I'd like to see them mount some armament on a bunch of these things and send them out into Taliban country.

http://youtu.be/W1czBcnX1

Posted by: Nighthawk at November 20, 2012 08:32 AM (RSqz2)

30 Yeah man, that grenade launcher wants to come home with me!

Posted by: and irresolute at November 20, 2012 08:32 AM (DBH1h)

31 28 Garrett invented a bullet shield that looks like a colorful umbrella.

Posted by: ace at November 20, 2012 12:31 PM (LCRYB)

Code name: Snappy Dialogue.

Posted by: joncelli at November 20, 2012 08:33 AM (RD7QR)

32 Where are the rail guns like in Eraser? That would be the ultimate sniper rifle.

Posted by: EC at November 20, 2012 08:34 AM (GQ8sn)

33 Whatever you do, if you work for the State Department or in the diplomatic ranks, never use one of their targeting lasers.

Posted by: Fritz at November 20, 2012 08:35 AM (/ZZCn)

34 We desperately need a gun thread at some point. Going to be buying one soon and I am pretty sure I am not the only one.

Posted by: Dave S. at November 20, 2012 08:37 AM (BfZ1r)

Can you imagine how advanced we could be if we stopped wasting time on all these non-lethal, politically correct bullshit weapons and focused on things that efficiently kill people?

And why are we still buying human pilot operated planes? What a waste.

Posted by: jwest at November 20, 2012 08:39 AM (ZDsRL)

36 what about the nude bomb? Ought to terrify the muzzles...

Posted by: Kortezzi at November 20, 2012 08:40 AM (xuOJ8)

37 Is a time machine on that list? Because I think it is and that someone has availed himself of that.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Coming not nearly soon enough. at November 20, 2012 08:40 AM (VtjlW)

Posted by: Dave S. at November 20, 2012 12:37 PM (BfZ1r)

Go to a local gun range.... explain what you are doing.... most have weapons you can rent and try out (or being in the industry can point you somewhere where you can)... and they will most probably be very helpful...

Thing about guns... as I posted a couple of threads ago... its like asking if you are a Tits or Ass Man... or are blondes, brunettes, or redheads better.... it all depends on what works for YOU.

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 20, 2012 08:40 AM (lZBBB)

39 >Yeah, can't roll out a replacement for the M-16/5.56mm NATO for love or money <

Nor should we. The 5.56 has proved its worth as an everyday battle cartridge in M4/16 and 416 rifles.

But there is also availability of many battle rifles using the .308.

So it's really not an all or nothing approach. It's more of what works for the role (DM, Rifleman, etc.).

That IMHO is a better approach.

Posted by: marcus at November 20, 2012 08:41 AM (GGCsk)

It break garrett's heart that Monica was fat in high school. He knows what it's like to be an outcast, feeling alone like that. Sometimes, at night, he cries for that boy he once was...

BTW, could a .308 penetrate Monica's fatsuit?

Posted by: spongeworthy at November 20, 2012 08:42 AM (r5w1L)

41 And why are we still buying human pilot operated planes? What a waste.

Posted by: jwest at November 20, 2012 12:39 PM (ZDsRL)

Because drones only work against Second or Third Tier opponents? In real Modern battlefield, with Electronic Warfare going on both sides? Drones will quickly become useless for any type of combat mission.

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 20, 2012 08:43 AM (lZBBB)

42 Thing about guns... as I posted a couple of threads ago... its like asking if you are a Tits or Ass Man... or are blondes, brunettes, or redheads better.... it all depends on what works for YOU.

How about "all of the above"?

Posted by: EC at November 20, 2012 08:43 AM (GQ8sn)

And why are we still buying human pilot operated planes?

To have options when Skynet becomes self-aware?

Posted by: Lurking Canuck at November 20, 2012 08:43 AM (BrQrN)

44 And why are we still buying human pilot operated planes? What a waste.

Human pilots can't be hacked and made to land in Iran or China.

Posted by: EC at November 20, 2012 08:43 AM (GQ8sn)

"We desperately need a gun thread at some point. Going to be buying one soon and I am pretty sure I am not the only one. "

Part of it needs to involve new and inventive ways to finance them without the Mrs. finding out about it, making your life miserable for a week, and finally clubbing you to death with it in your sleep.

It's a real problem.

Posted by: Jaws at November 20, 2012 08:44 AM (4I3Uo)

46 How about "all of the above"?>>

Yes like Lays Potato chips you never can have just one.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at November 20, 2012 08:45 AM (tf9Ne)

47 Part of it needs to involve new and inventive ways to finance them without the Mrs. finding out about it, making your life miserable for a week, and finally clubbing you to death with it in your sleep.

Do what I did after I bought my rifle. I told her, "Honey, this is what I'll be using to protect you and the children from intruders. No one is going to touch you as long as I have this around."

Posted by: EC at November 20, 2012 08:46 AM (GQ8sn)

48 Two terrorists from Al Aqsa TV just bought it.

Posted by: Butters at November 20, 2012 08:47 AM (NIZHJ)

49 We desperately need a gun thread at some point. Going to be buying one soon and I am pretty sure I am not the only one. Posted by: Dave S. at November 20, 2012 12:37 PM (BfZ1r) I am not so sure a dedicating a thread is especially wise. Discussing your guns here or elsewhere on the internets is probably a good way to get them confiscated. I am slow on the uptake sometimes but I only recently learned how LE and soldiers were confiscating legally owned firearms from their legal owners in new orleans after katrina.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 20, 2012 08:48 AM (Z9EHQ)

50 And this is just the stuff they're admitting to.

IMAGINE what they're working on that they're not telling us about. Lightsabers? Tantalus field? Point-of-view gun?

Posted by: Keith Arnold at November 20, 2012 08:48 AM (Jdtsu)

51 Do what I did after I bought my rifle. I told her, "Honey, this is what I'll be using to protect you and the children from intruders. No one is going to touch you as long as I have this around."

Yeah, she's not gonna buy that one. It's on the same lines as "just the tip".

Posted by: Jay in Ames at November 20, 2012 08:48 AM (i2Lsf)

52 And why are we still buying human pilot operated planes? What a waste.

Posted by: jwest at November 20, 2012 12:39 PM (ZDsRL)

Because drones are limited in what they can do, I imagine. I tend to think that the idea of replacing all human-pilots with remote operators is in the same category as the idea that bombers made land-war obsolete back in the '30s...

Posted by: Grey Fox at November 20, 2012 08:48 AM (LQjA9)

"Yeah, can't roll out a replacement for the M-16/5.56mm NATO for love or money "

IMO, there's not much wrong with the platform that a hearty FU to the Hague Conventions wouldn't fix. Nothing comes without compromises.

Posted by: Jaws at November 20, 2012 08:48 AM (4I3Uo)

54 48 Two terrorists from Al Aqsa TV just bought it.

Posted by: Butters at November 20, 2012 12:47 PM (NIZHJ)

Yeesh, they'll let anybody buy a TV station these days.

Posted by: joncelli at November 20, 2012 08:48 AM (RD7QR)

55 I wish I had gone into the field of weapon development. The pay is probably just okay but I bet they provide lots of liquor and hookers at the company parties.

Posted by: Walkers! at November 20, 2012 08:49 AM (MazXE)

56 "...if we stopped wasting time on all these non-lethal, politically correct bullshit weapons and focused on things that efficiently kill people?"

You can't get much more efficient than VX- it's like "Raid" for people.

Of course making sure you only get the *right* people can be a bit of a challenge...

Posted by: Nighthawk at November 20, 2012 08:49 AM (RSqz2)

57 Ultimate weapon against the muzzies:
The biggest C-130 type plane you can find, fitted with something like a giant fertilizer spreader on the rear and loaded to capacity with pig blood and innards, finely chopped.

Posted by: Dastardly Dan at November 20, 2012 08:49 AM (rvLeh)

58 non-lethal and politically incorrect, the best of both worlds

Posted by: Dastardly Dan at November 20, 2012 08:51 AM (rvLeh)

59 Because drones only work against Second or Third Tier opponents? In real Modern battlefield, with Electronic Warfare going on both sides? Drones will quickly become useless for any type of combat mission.

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 20, 2012 12:43 PM (lZBBB)

Remotely operated aircraft with crews of 4 to 12 people, smaller, faster, cheaper, better armed and totally fearless, making turns so fast it would rip the teeth out of a human pilot, would quickly destroy any archaic air force.

A second or third tier power that put their money into UAV's would quickly become the dominant force in the sky.

Posted by: jwest at November 20, 2012 08:51 AM (ZDsRL)

Do what I did after I bought my rifle. I told her, "Honey, this is what
I'll be using to protect you and the children from intruders. No one is
going to touch you as long as I have this around."

I used that one up 4...no 7 firearms ago. My ass still hurts.

Posted by: Jaws at November 20, 2012 08:52 AM (4I3Uo)

61 Since someone else brought the subject up, in The Walking Dead, why were the chick's arrows bouncing off the zombie? She was using a crossbow, too.

Posted by: Walkers! at November 20, 2012 08:52 AM (MazXE)

62 Since someone else brought the subject up, in The Walking Dead, why were the chick's arrows bouncing off the zombie? She was using a crossbow, too. Posted by: Walkers! at November 20, 2012 12:52 PM (MazXE) Because she's not Daryl. Duh.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Coming not nearly soon enough. at November 20, 2012 08:53 AM (VtjlW)

63 61 Just like a chick to bring a crossbow to a longbow fight.

Posted by: Butters at November 20, 2012 08:53 AM (NIZHJ)

64 Just a little advice to the folks considering purchasing a firearm - Don't simply consider the upfront cost of the weapon. First, understand the purpose of your rifle/shotty/handgun. Each has a role to play, and when you get down to it you may recognize you need more than one, depending on the respective role of each in your defense posture.

Then, you'll need to factor in ammo costs, and just as importantly, training costs.

Your tacticool new shotty or 1911 is worthless unless you learn how to use it effectively ... start with a basic safety course, then get tactical training from your local NRA guy.

Then, practice practice practice. It ain't cheap, but it's necessary nonetheless.

Sorry for the killjoy. Proceed.

Posted by: eastvalleyphx is just startin' shit at November 20, 2012 08:54 AM (GRvW4)

65 The Taser Shockwave looks scary as hell...I want one.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at November 20, 2012 08:54 AM (NzBQO)

66 >>>A second or third tier power that put their money into UAV's would quickly become the dominant force in the sky.

Right until someone detonated a flux compression generator and grounded all of your UAVs. Then you realize a single 20k$ bomb can torch every radio inside of 5 miles, and UAVs are effectively worthless.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at November 20, 2012 08:54 AM (0q2P7)

67 5 I suspect that those acoustic detection systems will work better than the laser systems. Posted by: Vic at November 20, 2012 11:17 AM (YdQQY) If a shot is fired then yes. I think the laser is used to get the location beforehand.

Posted by: RWC at November 20, 2012 08:54 AM (fWAjv)

And why are we still buying human pilot operated planes? What a waste.

Because a fleet of planes remotely piloted from Nevada are going to look real pretty sitting on the ground when we go up against an enemy that can mess with our communications networks, and in twenty years that capability will extend to quite a few countries.

Posted by: Alex at November 20, 2012 08:55 AM (3x3F6)

69 I used that one up 4...no 7 firearms ago. My ass still hurts.

You're doing it wrong!

Posted by: EC at November 20, 2012 08:55 AM (GQ8sn)

70 Part of it needs to involve new and inventive ways to finance them without the Mrs. finding out about it, making your life miserable for a week, and finally clubbing you to death with it in your sleep.

Among the many inventive ways quilters hide their purchases from their husbands: when you buy groceries, use your debit card and get $20 cash back. It goes in your financial records as "groceries" (the line in the online checking only says "purchase at Food Store") and you get $20 to spend as you see fit.

Then you drive around with your new fabric in the trunk of your car for awhile before you sneak it into the house, and then when your husband asks if that's new fabric, you truthfully answer, "No, I've had it for awhile."

Or you could just be an adult and talk to your spouse about what you're doing, but I'm told that's an unrealistic view of the world held only by women too defective to be married, so what do I know.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at November 20, 2012 08:57 AM (ZKzrr)

71 We desperately need a gun thread at some point. Going to be buying one soon and I am pretty sure I am not the only one.

If you start ordering today you've started 13 days late.

Posted by: John P. Squibob at November 20, 2012 08:57 AM (kqqGm)

72 If I were a second or third tier power, I'd be investing every $ I could in AI... They will never "catch up" with superpowers from an across-the-board perspective, but they sure as shit could leapfrog them (us) in a few selected areas. ...and naturally, Cyberwar is the imminent future. Why kill your enemy when you can deny them shit really low on Maslo's Hierarchy of Needs? They'll enthusiastically do the job for you, given the right circumstances.

Posted by: Rob McNeece at November 20, 2012 08:57 AM (hNXHo)

73 nic fix

Posted by: eastvalleyphx is a big fan of LIB at November 20, 2012 08:58 AM (GRvW4)

74 Anything with gunpowder will work in an atmosphere. Pick the gat that you are most comfortable with. 9mm or above, small as practicable. Mozambique drills and timed El Presidentes all around. Smaller calibers for carry and larger ones for straight up killing shiite. Know the neighbors so you are aware whom to shoot first when the balloon goes up and the shiites hit the oscillating air propellant machine. Keep calm. Shoot center mass: head shots are bullcrap outside of a well rehearsed Mozambique drill. And as of now ...LET. IT . BURN. Run over the wounded and leap the dead. Gonna prolly get right interesting. Cheers.

Posted by: Sandman Has hate to spare now at November 20, 2012 08:58 AM (i7w3/)

Right until someone detonated a flux compression generator and grounded all of your UAVs. Then you realize a single 20k$ bomb can torch every radio inside of 5 miles, and UAVs are effectively worthless.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at November 20, 2012 12:54 PM (0q2P7)

I would suspect that anything utilized against a UAV would have just as big an effect against the electronics-laden flying moneypits we currently have in inventory. Also, redundency would be the order the day with laser/microwave/whatever communications carrying the instructions.

People in warplanes is as outdated as soldiers on horseback.

Posted by: jwest at November 20, 2012 09:00 AM (ZDsRL)

76 A drone Air Force? They're not even able to fly drones in formation at the moment.

Posted by: Ed Anger at November 20, 2012 09:00 AM (tOkJB)

77 >>>Anything with gunpowder will work in an atmosphere.

Gun powder (Black Powder, Smokeless Powder [nitro cellulose/nitro glycerin], Pyrodex) does not require an atmosphere to properly function. Guns would work just fine in an absolute vacuum.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at November 20, 2012 09:02 AM (0q2P7)

78 Autonomy fixes a lot of that. And it's coming.

Posted by: Rob McNeece at November 20, 2012 09:03 AM (hNXHo)

79 I really, really hope that they have completed this and are just keeping it secret. Rod from God http://tinyurl.com/42y75u A pair of satellites orbiting several hundred miles above the Earth would serve as a weapons system. One functions as the targeting and communications platform while the other carries numerous tungsten rodsÂ—up to 20 feet in length and a foot in diameterÂ—that it can drop on targets with less than 15 minutesÂ’ notice. When instructed from the ground, the targeting satellite commands its partner to drop one of its darts. The guided rods enter the atmosphere, protected by a thermal coating, traveling at 36,000 feet per secondÂ—comparable to the speed of a meteor. The result: complete devastation of the target, even if itÂ’s buried deep underground.

Posted by: RWC at November 20, 2012 09:03 AM (fWAjv)

80 They're not even able to fly drones in formation at the moment.

Posted by: Ed Anger at November 20, 2012 01:00 PM (tOkJB)

Why would flying remotely be any different than being in the plane yourself? If anything, it would be far easier to fly in formation remotely.

Posted by: jwest at November 20, 2012 09:04 AM (ZDsRL)

81 79 I already hold the patent on this.

Posted by: Zeus at November 20, 2012 09:06 AM (NIZHJ)

Crap I thought they finally developed a plasma rifle in the 40 watt range

Posted by: kj at November 20, 2012 09:09 AM (AW9md)

Why would flying remotely be any different than being in the plane yourself? If anything, it would be far easier to fly in formation remotely.

I'm just guessing but it might be because of confusing radio signals when that many recievers are in close proximity

Posted by: Chester the TSA Molester at November 20, 2012 09:26 AM (AW9md)

84 Well since we are having a gun thread now my 2Â¢ worth:

Best home defense weapon is a short barreled shotgun commonly called a "coach gun". 12 gauge is OK but don't get any shot bigger than 6 shot. (note smaller number is bigger shot)

Best concealed carry gun is one that can be concealed, that fits your hand, and that you can afford to practice with. I have a 6" barrel SnW .357 that fits under the seat of my truck and a Colt .45 officers model that will fit in my back pocket.

Best long gun? There are so many they can not be listed. The caliber depends on what you will hunt.

Posted by: Vic at November 20, 2012 09:28 AM (YdQQY)

85 The new shotgun laser sight looks like it would be pretty handy in a home defense role.

Posted by: RWC at November 20, 2012 09:40 AM (fWAjv)

86 The new shotgun laser sight looks like it would be pretty handy in a home defense role.

That almost makes no sense at all. Why bother with a laser sight for a shottie?

Posted by: EC at November 20, 2012 09:52 AM (GQ8sn)

87 That almost makes no sense at all. Why bother with a laser sight for a shottie? Posted by: EC at November 20, 2012 01:52 PM (GQ8sn) To be extra sure of shot placement I am assuming. It's not a single laser but one with multiple beams that spreads out as the shot would. http://tinyurl.com/czcs94q

Posted by: RWC at November 20, 2012 09:59 AM (fWAjv)

88 If you need laser sights to hit something at room distances with a shotgun you need a new method of home protection.

Posted by: Vic at November 20, 2012 10:04 AM (YdQQY)

89 That almost makes no sense at all. Why bother with a laser sight for a shottie? Posted by: EC at November 20, 2012 01:52 PM (GQ8sn) Because, contra the television, you still have to aim a shotgun, shot isn't magically target-seeking, and doesn't fill a hallway with magic particles that only hit bad guys. This is why we don't listen to Internet Gun Guy. That's a running refrain for me, but there is a harsh truth here. For whatever combination of reasons, the firearms industry is *filled* with urban legends, errors, myths and legends that WILL NOT go away, and very little is done to correct them. It's also difficult to find unbiased product reviews that actually cover, for example, enough samples of a thing to be statistically valid. It almost never happens. It's all about reputations and word-of-mouth, and that can be justifiably confusing for new shooters.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 20, 2012 10:05 AM (bxiXv)

90 A shotgun using commercial ammo will still have the shot in a wad cup at room distances so effectively it is just about the same as a rifle for aiming purposes. But still you should be able to hit something as big as a man at 10 feet without a damn laser.

Posted by: Vic at November 20, 2012 10:39 AM (YdQQY)

91 Posted by: Vic at November 20, 2012 02:39 PM (YdQQY) That's not very tactical Vic. /sarc

Posted by: RWC at November 20, 2012 10:43 AM (fWAjv)

92 67 5 I suspect that those acoustic detection systems will work better than the laser systems.
Posted by: Vic at November 20, 2012 11:17 AM (YdQQY)
If a shot is fired then yes. I think the laser is used to get the location beforehand.

Posted by: RWC at November 20, 2012 12:54 PM (fWAjv)

I am guessing the laser device for finding scope optics could be spoofed by larding the area with dummy lenses. Finally, a use for beer goggles!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 20, 2012 10:56 AM (pFqpP)

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