March 22, 2012

Toulouse Serial Killer Mohammad Mera Dead
— Ace

This article is confusing on the cause of death: it suggests he died due to jumping out of his apartment window and falling to his death, and also that he was shot in the head.

Perhaps both? Well, he's dead. That the article agrees on.

The Al Qaeda fanatic who murdered seven people in south west France died after being shot in the head in a vicious gunfire battle after police stormed his apartment following a 32-hour siege.

The Toulouse terrorist burst out of his flat's bathroom 'shooting insanely' at officers, before leaping to his death from a window.

In scenes reminiscent of a Hollywood film, Mohammad Merah, 23, unleashed round after round from automatic weapons after gas cannisters were thrown into his apartment and police stormed in.

Two officers were injured, including one who is still in a serious condition.

Did he have accomplices? Police are interested in a woman he was overheard speaking to.

The mystery woman is said to have been spotted talking to Merah from a train at the Gare de l’Est on Monday – just before he carried out an attack on a Jewish school.

Intrigued by the conversation – which was about the killing of three soldiers - another passenger is said to have asked the mystery woman ‘Were you talking to the Toulouse killer?’

Investigators are taking the lead ‘very seriously’, according to police sources, because it fits in Merah’s telephone records, which have since been compiled by the police.

I like the Daily Mail's choice to call him a "serial killer." It's good to stress that these are not "revolutionaries" or Holy Warriors or whatever delusional gay-panic romantic claptrap they've convinced themselves of, but simply murderers.

Oh, and Drudge: I didn't notice this. It went right over my head.

Drudge's headline, in all caps, is:

MOHAMMAD IS DEAD

Tami points out that's a baiting double-meaning. Pretty ballsy.

Sarkozy: Islam Had Nothing To Do With This. Are you sure of that, buddy? I think it has something to do with it.

France has shown its indignation and grit but has not allowed anger to take over.

The Muslim faith has nothing to do with the insane acts of this man. Before targeting Jewish children, he targeted other Muslims.

On the other hand, he's talking tough about cracking down on Jihadist websites and recruitment:

We must be implacable in defending our values. We will not allow this ideology to affect us.

From now on, any person who habitually consults websites that advocate terrorism or that call for hatred and violence will be punished by the law.

France will not tolerate forced recruitment or ideological indoctrination on its soil.

Posted by: Ace at 08:47 AM | Comments (307)
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1 Why did they shoot him?  Didn't they want to question him? 

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 22, 2012 08:48 AM (UOM48)

2 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable tyrant.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at March 22, 2012 08:48 AM (8y9MW)

3 Why did they shoot him? Didn't they want to question him?

Pretty sure he started shooting first.  He was probably committing suicide by cop.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at March 22, 2012 08:49 AM (8y9MW)

4 I love how Drudge has up 'Mohammed is Dead' in all caps. 

Posted by: Tami at March 22, 2012 08:49 AM (X6akg)

5 It was always going to end on Mohammed's terms. He was in complete control of the situation. The French are impotent fools.

Posted by: Soothsayer at March 22, 2012 08:50 AM (jUytm)

6 5  I lol'd.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 22, 2012 08:50 AM (UOM48)

7 "Perhaps both? Well, he's dead. That the article agrees on."

Well, your Honor... I fired six warning shots into the back of his head.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at March 22, 2012 08:50 AM (PMGbu)

8 When I heard this on the news this am, I was really hoping they would show him flying out of the window.  But I'm kinda sick that way.

Posted by: infidel at March 22, 2012 08:51 AM (O/fK8)

9 We've got to figure out a more efficient way of getting rid of these assholes. A 32 hour siege? What happened, did someone bring the wrong cheese? Were the crusts still on the finger sandwiches?

Posted by: Chicago Voter at March 22, 2012 08:51 AM (Pir3k)

10 Very clever of a fundamentalist right wing Christian to be named Mohammed. It almost worked.

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at March 22, 2012 08:51 AM (Qxdfp)

11 33 hour standoff. How embarrassing.

Posted by: Darth Chipmunk at March 22, 2012 08:51 AM (0tRzD)

12 The police were trying to win his heart and mind.

When that failed it was the ol' "two in the heart, one in the mind."

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 22, 2012 08:51 AM (UOM48)

13 >>>Perhaps both?

He wanted to recreate the shot-then-fell-off-building western movie death.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose finally remembers why he's here at March 22, 2012 08:52 AM (0q2P7)

14

 

 

Greg Palcot was reporting this morning that the guy "jumped out the window, when the police stormed his appartment" ....and that they were trying to take him alive.

Posted by: wheatie at March 22, 2012 08:52 AM (4GgJq)

15 May God give him the justice he deserves.

Posted by: countrydoc at March 22, 2012 08:52 AM (3lc1Z)

16 Is that a picture of him braying on Drudge?

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at March 22, 2012 08:53 AM (Qxdfp)

17 Has Barry apologized for his death yet and blamed it on Bush/GOP/right wingers/etc?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 22, 2012 08:53 AM (1Jaio)

18

IÂ’m just trying to catch up with newsÂ…

 

Is this the right wing extremist?

Posted by: jwest at March 22, 2012 08:53 AM (FdndL)

19 I was expecting a "but mostly" headline.

Posted by: Y-not at March 22, 2012 08:53 AM (5H6zj)

20 Great job Daddy! Just like you plugged that oil leak & got OBL! Thank you taxpayers for my 'field trip'! LOL!

Posted by: Malia in Mexico at March 22, 2012 08:53 AM (DATOZ)

21 one wonder why he made trips to Pakistan and Afghanistan, who paid for this. was He a student, independently wealthy?

Posted by: willow at March 22, 2012 08:54 AM (TomZ9)

22 10 When I heard this on the news this am, I was really hoping they would show him flying out of the window. But I'm kinda sick that way.

I'm a lot more interested in the close-up sidewalk shot.

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at March 22, 2012 08:54 AM (Qxdfp)

23 Did anyone see Sarkozy come out to express his grief over the killings, but give a shout-out first to a random medicine man? 

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 22, 2012 08:54 AM (UOM48)

24 wonders*

Posted by: willow at March 22, 2012 08:54 AM (TomZ9)

25 http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/211599.php Mother Warned French Authorities About Mohammed Merah Two Years Ago

Posted by: Y-not at March 22, 2012 08:54 AM (5H6zj)

26 He fell off the grassy knoll.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at March 22, 2012 08:54 AM (YF/W+)

27 And here's another prediction that I'll bet my leftnut on: The French will give him a proper Islamic burial and make sure that everyone (the Muslim community) knows that they handled his body with "respect." I guaranteefriggintee it.

Posted by: Soothsayer at March 22, 2012 08:54 AM (jUytm)

28 When I heard this on the news this am, I was really hoping they would show him flying out of the window. But I'm kinda sick that way.

Posted by: infidel at March 22, 2012 12:51 PM (O/fK

 

Au contraire.  That should be considered a sign of good mental health.

Posted by: Clay More at March 22, 2012 08:54 AM (tQHzJ)

29 He had brought France to a standstill.  They just couldn't tolerate anymore of that after 33 hours.

Posted by: Jimbo at March 22, 2012 08:55 AM (O3R/2)

30 Do you get extra virgins if you die of a gunshot wound to the head?  Just wonderin'

But, wait..  does jumping out of a window take away virgins?

I'm so confused..

Isn't it about time someone told these effin' towelheads it's time to come out of the stoneage?

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at March 22, 2012 08:55 AM (f9c2L)

31 How about that, folks!

Barack has pulled off the most audacious police raid in 500 years.

You can thank him by calling his website and telling them you want to donate!

Posted by: Joe Biden at March 22, 2012 08:55 AM (Y+DPZ)

32 I think they stormed in when they heard he was a global warming denier.

Posted by: Chicago Voter at March 22, 2012 08:55 AM (Pir3k)

33 Toulouse Serial Killer Mohammad Mera Dead

Not enough.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] at March 22, 2012 08:56 AM (WdKsY)

34 27
The angry mother of a teenage boy told the Telegramme newspaper that Mohammed Merah was trying to “recruit” her son to al-Qaeda with songs and videos.

So, he stood under his balcony at night with a lute and tried to woo him?

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at March 22, 2012 08:56 AM (Qxdfp)

35 He had brought France to a standstill. They just couldn't tolerate anymore of that after 33 hours.

Hey.  Give the French credit.  Their first (and second, and third) instincts were to surrender.  This shows positively manly determination from them.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at March 22, 2012 08:56 AM (8y9MW)

36 What's the car-be-cue forecast for the banlieus this evening?

Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 22, 2012 08:56 AM (ZKzrr)

37 French police spent the entire 33 hours trying to "negotiate" a peaceful end with him. Fools.

Posted by: Soothsayer at March 22, 2012 08:57 AM (jUytm)

38 >>> I love how Drudge has up 'Mohammed is Dead' in all caps. that's pretty awesome. That went right over my head.

Posted by: ace at March 22, 2012 08:57 AM (nj1bB)

39 Presidential apology in 3-2-1...

Posted by: SurferDoc at March 22, 2012 08:57 AM (6H6FZ)

40 one wonder why he made trips to Pakistan and Afghanistan, who paid for this. was He a student, independently wealthy?
Posted by: willow
........
European countries are big on paid vacations...

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at March 22, 2012 08:57 AM (f9c2L)

41

23 one wonders why he made trips to Pakistan and Afghanistan, who paid for this. was He a student, independently wealthy?

 

Barry did the same thing, when he was a student. ....But we're not supposed to talk about that.

Posted by: wheatie at March 22, 2012 08:57 AM (4GgJq)

42 Well here is the "head"line from Le Monde: Mohamed Merah abattu d'une balle dans la tête.

Posted by: tasker at March 22, 2012 08:57 AM (r2PLg)

43 Hmm, Jumping out of a window might be construed as suicide.  The Koran strictly forbids suicide.  Hmmm, maybe no virgins for him.


Posted by: Jimbo at March 22, 2012 08:57 AM (O3R/2)

44 We figured that running nothing but Jerry Lewis movies into his apartment and IPhone would get him to give up, but we all ended up watching them and he snuck out the window. Good thing it was 6 stories up, or embarrassing questions might have been asked.

Posted by: Ze French Police, Oui? at March 22, 2012 08:57 AM (VMcoS)

45
1. Kill a bunch of people, get shot by the police and fall out of a window

2. ?????

3. Prophet!!!!

Posted by: The Mega Independent at March 22, 2012 08:57 AM (p5DQR)

46 Did Sarkozy call Barry for advice?

Posted by: huerfano at March 22, 2012 08:57 AM (bAGA/)

47 y-nots link ;

“The police knew this individual was dangerous and radicalized. I complained to the police twice about Mohammed Merah and tried to follow up several times.”

The woman said that Merah made her 15-year-old son listen to songs, which he said were from the Koran, but these were actually calls to go to war.

Merah took her son to his home, where several sabers hung on the wall, to further indoctrinate him. He made him watch al-Qaeda videos of women being shot in the head and men being strangled to death, the mother recalled.

Posted by: willow at March 22, 2012 08:58 AM (TomZ9)

48 Not that it happened, but that would be excellent marksmanship if they shot him in the head as he jumped out the window.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 22, 2012 08:58 AM (SuBE0)

49 Toulouse Serial Killer dies from vertigo and police sharpshooters, but mainly police sharpshooters

Posted by: AoSHQ Headline Editors at March 22, 2012 08:58 AM (Y+DPZ)

50

Thank God it was a sole gunman, if it were a half dozen, the French government would be setting up shop in Vichy by now.

Posted by: Barry at March 22, 2012 08:58 AM (3Zo6I)

51 He didn't jump out the window,, he was trying to get away and his magic carpet stalled

Posted by: The Jackhole at March 22, 2012 08:58 AM (nTgAI)

52 I shot him. The bullets and the fall killed him

Posted by: Vincent at March 22, 2012 08:59 AM (Y+DPZ)

53 France has a problem with anti-Jewish violence?  Huh, who knew?

Posted by: International Media at March 22, 2012 08:59 AM (YxaXw)

54 Well, it is only suicide if he thought he would die from jumping out the window. If he thought he was jumping on to a magically winged donkey, then it's ok.

Posted by: Chicago Voter at March 22, 2012 08:59 AM (Pir3k)

55 Glad he was just a fanatic.

Posted by: Someassholestolemypen at March 22, 2012 08:59 AM (YYmZm)

56 More irrefuteable proof that Islam is the religion of peace.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at March 22, 2012 08:59 AM (iAUf+)

57 wheatie, i know.
pakistan and afghnaistan are interesting places to visit on sprign break i guess.

Posted by: willow at March 22, 2012 08:59 AM (TomZ9)

58 >>>Not that it happened, but that would be excellent marksmanship if they shot him in the head as he jumped out the window. It would be even more awesome if they shot him in the head after he hit the ground. Just to make sure.

Posted by: ace at March 22, 2012 09:00 AM (nj1bB)

59 Posted by: willow at March 22, 2012 12:58 PM (TomZ9) The really chilling thing is that, in addition to the sabers on display, Merah had a large collection of AD&D miniatures and 12-sided die.

Posted by: Y-not at March 22, 2012 09:00 AM (5H6zj)

60 He was not a Muslim per se.

Posted by: I am the egg man, . . . at March 22, 2012 09:00 AM (a362c)

61

46  Hmm, Jumping out of a window might be construed as suicide. The Koran strictly forbids suicide. Hmmm, maybe no virgins for him.

 

No explosives belt.....No virgins.

Posted by: wheatie at March 22, 2012 09:00 AM (4GgJq)

62 Barry's probably on the phone to Sarkozy right now, advising him on proper Muslim burial etiquette. 

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 22, 2012 09:00 AM (UOM48)

63 The Dissident Frogman's take at my nic.

Posted by: maddogg at March 22, 2012 09:01 AM (OlN4e)

64 Did the police taunt him a second time?

Posted by: EC at March 22, 2012 09:01 AM (GQ8sn)

65 ad and d miniatures?

Posted by: willow at March 22, 2012 09:01 AM (TomZ9)

66 >>>French police spent the entire 33 hours trying to "negotiate" a peaceful end with him.

>>>Fools.

The French are a conquered people. They just happen to be without a conqueror right this second. That is fixing to change shortly. I'm just waiting to see how long their "secular society" is going to last.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose finally remembers why he's here at March 22, 2012 09:01 AM (0q2P7)

67 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBS9AHilxg0

Posted by: Vincent at March 22, 2012 09:01 AM (Y+DPZ)

68 ah....the religion of peace...

Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 22, 2012 09:02 AM (h8UT+)

69 Hmm, Jumping out of a window might be construed as suicide. The Koran strictly forbids suicide. Hmmm, maybe no virgins for him.


Posted by: Jimbo at March 22, 2012 12:57 PM (O3R/2)




Brother Fez was a martyr ... and he only blew up a sheep.

Posted by: Waj at March 22, 2012 09:02 AM (X3lox)

70 I guess Al Quida never taught him to fly?

Posted by: nevergiveup at March 22, 2012 09:02 AM (i6RpT)

71 "MOHAMMAD IS DEAD"
===============

What!?!

I KILL YOU!!!!11!!1!!

Posted by: More Muslims Than You Think at March 22, 2012 09:02 AM (/AHDz)

72 A moment of silence is to be observed in Brattleboro, VT later this afternoon.

Posted by: Havedash at March 22, 2012 09:02 AM (F0WNa)

73 Mohammed E. Coyote, Super Genius.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at March 22, 2012 09:02 AM (p5DQR)

74 Something smells Vichy.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at March 22, 2012 09:03 AM (YF/W+)

75 Where are they gonna bury this pig

Posted by: nevergiveup at March 22, 2012 09:03 AM (i6RpT)

76 He "brought France to her knees"

That reminds me of an old joke.  How does a Frenchwoman hold her liquor?

By the ears.

Posted by: Jimbo at March 22, 2012 09:03 AM (O3R/2)

77 maddog, oo i liked his boom stick video.

Posted by: willow at March 22, 2012 09:03 AM (TomZ9)

78 There was an article saying that US forces captured this guy in Afghanistan but because he was a French national he was turned over to the French military. The French military shipped him back to France. Don't know if that was on Sarkozy's watch or not.

Posted by: tasker at March 22, 2012 09:03 AM (r2PLg)

79 Gutsy call by Sarkozy. Bet he was dressed better than in a golf shirt and windbreaker while watching the live feed.

Posted by: I am the egg man, . . . at March 22, 2012 09:03 AM (a362c)

80 Mr. Furious:  "Seems there was a little controversy regarding your father's death."
The Bowler: "Yes, the police said he fell down an elevator shaft.  Onto some bullets."

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at March 22, 2012 09:03 AM (PMGbu)

81 Religion of pieces.

Posted by: infidel at March 22, 2012 09:04 AM (O/fK8)

82 23one wonder why he made trips to Pakistan and Afghanistan, who paid for this. was He a student, independently wealthy?

Posted by: willow at March 22, 2012 12:54 PM (TomZ9)

 

 

The real tragedy is that he had plans to run for President. And with that resume, who could blame him?

Posted by: The Poster Formerly Known as Mr. Barky at March 22, 2012 09:04 AM (qwK3S)

83 They would have killed him sooner, but Sarkozy needed 16 hours to sleep on it and nine holes of golf.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 22, 2012 09:04 AM (UOM48)

84 Golf anyone?

Posted by: Barak Obama at March 22, 2012 09:05 AM (Pir3k)

85

I entre'd iz rheum and foond im in ze bathrheum. Zen i shut im in ze ead.

 

After ze idiot Kato ad attack moi.

Posted by: Inspector Clouseau at March 22, 2012 09:05 AM (3Zo6I)

86 >>>Where are they gonna bury this pig

If it were me we'd cremate him and dump his ashes in a dump.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose finally remembers why he's here at March 22, 2012 09:05 AM (0q2P7)

87 O/T, but can't wait for the thread about Obama's pathetically desperate speech trying to say he's in no way responsible for high gas prices or retarding development of energy that actually works, and how even though he defends his pipeline decision, credit is due to him for work on the US portion of the pipeline that has nothing to do with him. Pretty please?

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at March 22, 2012 09:05 AM (21lBC)

88 Oh please let there be video.  Sounds like he may have been SHOT IN THE HEAD WHILE JUMPING OUT OF A WINDOW!!!

How fucking awesome would that be?  Has that ever even happened in a movie?!?  Has fucking Bruce Willis even shot a guy in the head while he's jumping out of a window?  I think not,  fuckers!  But now it appears that a FRENCH GUY may have shot an is-lame-o fuckstick,  in the head,  while he's jumping out of a window!

Hope,  my friends.  That's what it's called.  Hope.

(Now I'm starting to imagine the French guy jumping sideways,  with two pistols blazing,  mid air,  shooting a guy,  in the head,  while he's jumping out of a window.  I got to sit down.)

Posted by: Dang at March 22, 2012 09:05 AM (BbX1b)

89 I don't understand the whole negotiate thing.  He had no hostages.  Lob a few flashbangs in, then come in through the door and window.  Take him down, handcuff him and then back to the clubhouse for a cold frosty beer.

Posted by: countrydoc at March 22, 2012 09:05 AM (3lc1Z)

90 He was a suicide faller.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at March 22, 2012 09:06 AM (p5DQR)

91 I read that he shot 7 officers: 2 at the beginning of the seige and 5 more when they took him down.

Posted by: mike at March 22, 2012 09:06 AM (kqXHe)

92 I bet the Ayers family paid for his trips to Pakistan and Afghanistan, just as the paid for Obama's.

Posted by: Jimbo at March 22, 2012 09:06 AM (O3R/2)

93 "...but simply murderers."

Ace, I think that is wrong.

This is the same attitude that allowed Clinton and the unspeakable POS in the White House currently to avoid calling Islam what it really is: A revolutionary political movement hiding behind a bloodthirsty death cult.

We need to prove to the world that these people are being driven by religious and political ideology: that they are NOT simply murderers who misunderstood the basic tenets of their religion.

The problem is that these people understand their religion very, very well.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at March 22, 2012 09:06 AM (nEUpB)

94 so will the left in France have demonstrations and say no blood of innocents for oil? because this is what is causes?

Posted by: willow at March 22, 2012 09:06 AM (TomZ9)

95 Well-they wanted to "question " him. After the stories of how he killed that 8 year old girl- I would have questioned him for a very, looooong time.

Posted by: tasker at March 22, 2012 09:07 AM (r2PLg)

96 Lesson #122,847 that the strict gun control laws are useless.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at March 22, 2012 09:07 AM (tf9Ne)

97

Posted by: willow at March 22, 2012 01:03 PM (TomZ9)

 

 

 

 

Yes, that was a great one. For those who missed the epic slapdown of Fwench MSM, click my nic.

Posted by: maddogg at March 22, 2012 09:07 AM (OlN4e)

98 He was just trying to lean on the window, but the hinges were tou louse.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at March 22, 2012 09:07 AM (p5DQR)

99 Jimbo, or something similar, He himself was also recruiting.
What gets me is this guy was under surveillance but was ablt to kill 7? days apart?

Posted by: willow at March 22, 2012 09:08 AM (TomZ9)

100 So, he stood under his balcony at night with a lute and tried to woo him?

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at March 22, 2012 12:56 PM (Qxdfp)


Jihadi, oh jihadi, wherefore art thou, jihadi?

Posted by: joncelli, with apologies to the Bard at March 22, 2012 09:08 AM (RD7QR)

101 In other news this afternoon, Whitney Houston - Still Dead!

Posted by: CoolCzech at March 22, 2012 09:08 AM (Iaxlk)

102

I read that he shot 7 officers: 2 at the beginning of the seige and 5 more when they took him down.

----

Time we introduced the French to Le Napalm

Posted by: Inspector Clouseau at March 22, 2012 09:08 AM (3Zo6I)

103 O/T, but can't wait for the thread about Obama's pathetically desperate speech trying to say he's in no way responsible for high gas prices or retarding development of energy that actually works, and how even though he defends his pipeline decision, credit is due to him for work on the US portion of the pipeline that has nothing to do with him.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at March 22, 2012 01:05 PM (21lBC)




Barky's great work in promoting access to energy has already been officially acknowledged with that contempt citation.  I'm sure it's framed and hung somewhere in the White House.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 22, 2012 09:08 AM (X3lox)

104 He was in complete control of the situation.

CS Gas doesn't take shit off anyone.

Posted by: toby928© at March 22, 2012 09:08 AM (GTbGH)

105 All I can advise you people is to NOT ever f_ck with French cops--not EVER

They will stomp your ass, take a break to smoke, then stomp you summore

( unless you're a chick, in which case they will call in 2 or 3  female cops to bitch-slap you incessantly 'while under interrogation' )


Posted by: SantaRosaStan at March 22, 2012 09:08 AM (Dll6b)

106 radio report this morning said he jumped from the window guns blazing.....

Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 22, 2012 09:08 AM (h8UT+)

107 FOX News reporting that Iranian agents have been spotted photographing NYC landmarks, per NYPD.

Eric Holder expected to slap down NYPD in short order.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 22, 2012 09:08 AM (UOM48)

108 First! ... to use 'defenestration' in the comments!

Posted by: andycanuck at March 22, 2012 09:09 AM (6RnvM)

109 Shooting him while he was falling would have been awesome. How gratifying would it have been to empty a clip into Hans Gruber?

Posted by: Chicago Voter at March 22, 2012 09:09 AM (Pir3k)

110 French police spent the entire 33 hours trying to "negotiate" a peaceful end with him.

Fools.


There have been plenty of such long standoffs in the US as well.  As far as the cops knew he could've had the place wired with bombs or something. 

Rushing in only to risk getting shot or blown up without trying to get him to surrender first wouldn't have been smart- he wasn't going anywhere and here were no hostages involved.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 22, 2012 09:09 AM (SY2Kh)

111
33 hrs. avec les gendarmes, ou 30 minutes avec moi.


Posted by: Jean Claude Van Damme at March 22, 2012 09:10 AM (K6sn/)

112

ItÂ’s times like this that I miss Breitbart the most.

 

He instinctively knew that what happened doesnÂ’t matter and what the facts are matters even less.  The only thing that does matter is how this was reported.

 

A right wing extremist shot children because he was mad about immigration.

 

Those are the facts.  They were reported so they have to be true.  Out of the universe of people who absorbed the headline, only about 5% to 10% will note that additional information my lead one to believe this was a Islamic extremist, but most will retain the original story. 

 

Breitbart would probably look into who was doing the speculation about the shooter being right wing and then embark on research to show what other lies were told by the same individuals.  He would go after their credibility and livelihood.

 

I miss Breitbart.

Posted by: jwest at March 22, 2012 09:10 AM (FdndL)

113 and the cops in French cites are not 'Gendarmes'.  Gendarmes are the national police force in non-urban areas, under the jurisdiction of the Frog Army

Posted by: SantaRosaStan at March 22, 2012 09:11 AM (Dll6b)

114 it probably took several hours to get others out of the building  safely.

Posted by: willow at March 22, 2012 09:11 AM (TomZ9)

115

"...it suggests that he died due to jumping out of his window and falling to his death, and also that he was shot in the head."

I think there was an episode of Castle like that. Oh, and the opening to Magnolia.

Posted by: somebody else, not me at March 22, 2012 09:11 AM (nZvGM)

116 I thought defenestration would be if the gendarme had thrown him out of the window.

Posted by: Jimbo at March 22, 2012 09:11 AM (O3R/2)

117 Posted by: SantaRosaStan at March 22, 2012 01:08 PM (Dll6b)

That used to be the case, but I wonder if they are still as tough?

This fuckstick hit seven of them? Come on...any half-way decent SWAT team would have done better.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at March 22, 2012 09:11 AM (nEUpB)

118 And yet, in the end, they ended up rushing in. Again, he was in complete control of the situation. As I said yesterday, he was going out guns blazing. And he did.

Posted by: Soothsayer at March 22, 2012 09:11 AM (jUytm)

119 First! ... to use 'defenestration' in the comments!

Posted by: andycanuck at March 22, 2012 01:09 PM (6RnvM)


Meggy Mac says defenestration is a plague on our precious trees.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at March 22, 2012 09:12 AM (p5DQR)

120 116 First! ... to use 'defenestration' in the comments!
---   Actually, first to misuse the word.   Defenestration is the act of throwing someone or something out of a window. The term was coined around the time of an incident in Prague Castle in the year 1618.

Posted by: Inspector Clouseau at March 22, 2012 09:12 AM (3Zo6I)

121

122 Excuse moi...avec La Legion Etrangere.

Posted by: Jean Claude Van Damme at March 22, 2012 09:12 AM (K6sn/)

122 >>>Rushing in only to risk getting shot or blown up without trying to get him to surrender first wouldn't have been smart- he wasn't going anywhere and here were no hostages involved.

Nothing thermal imaging and a .338 Lapua couldn't solve at a distance. If the walls are to thick for the .338 they aren't for the .50BMG

"Please surrender peacefully"

"I WOULD RATHER DIE!"

"You got it"

BANG!

Posted by: MikeTheMoose finally remembers why he's here at March 22, 2012 09:12 AM (0q2P7)

123 Again, he was in complete control of the situation.

Only because the French were idiots.  It's hard to take the fight to the man  when you're crying, coughing and puking your guts up.

Posted by: toby928© at March 22, 2012 09:13 AM (GTbGH)

124 Where are they gonna bury this pig

Had I my way, he'd be buried in a pig.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 22, 2012 09:13 AM (SY2Kh)

125 109 In other news this afternoon, Whitney Houston - Still Dead! Posted by: CoolCzech at March 22, 2012 01:08 PM

You are now in violation of #1871 of the City of Los Angeles Penal Code

http://tinyurl.com/6v76ttu

The resolution — which was also supported by Councilmember Bernard Parks and Council President Herb Wesson — called attention to the recent uproar over comments by KFI 640 AM talk show hosts John Kobylt and Ken Chiampou.

Kobylt and Chiampou were suspended after they called the late pop singer Whitney Houston a “crack ho” three days after her death in February.




Posted by: LA City Council at March 22, 2012 09:13 AM (Y+DPZ)

126 This is from Le Monde liveblog an interview with the guy that led the raid: "Mais il est venu à l'engagement contre nous avec trois Colt 45 de calibre 11,43 [le même modèle que celui utilisé lors des meurtres] alors que nous avions alors engagé uniquement des armes non létales. J'avais donné l'ordre de ne riposter qu'avec des grenades susceptibles de le choquer." %$^# this caption -from what I understand-gave the order not to use grenades that could shock him...

Posted by: tasker at March 22, 2012 09:13 AM (r2PLg)

127 33 hours? I guess they called in the Gendunarmes

Posted by: Chicago Voter at March 22, 2012 09:13 AM (Pir3k)

128 In the end, they did exactly what he wanted them to do.

Posted by: Soothsayer at March 22, 2012 09:14 AM (jUytm)

129 This *Captain*

Posted by: tasker at March 22, 2012 09:14 AM (r2PLg)

130 Desock moi

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at March 22, 2012 09:14 AM (3Zo6I)

131 you call a cop in any French city, "Monsieur l' Agent"

 gendarmes are called "Monsieur le Gendarme"

( don't laugh; it might save you an ass-kicking:  The French are not polite to foreigners, but expect foreigners to be polite to them ). 

Posted by: SantaRosaStan at March 22, 2012 09:14 AM (Dll6b)

132 Ok, don't nobody tell Ace he's misspelled 'Mohammed' like in each case he's tried to write it....

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] at March 22, 2012 09:14 AM (WdKsY)

133 BTW, the French cops/intel had been warned about this asshole by a Moslem woman whose son he had tried to recruit. [see sock for link]

"The woman, identified only as Aisha, told French daily Le Telegram that Merah had tried in 2010 to recruit her son for the “worldwide Jihad” he was organizing for. She remembered Merah, and said that when she heard what he had done, “I felt as if someone cut off my legs. That they did not stop him was a terrible gaffe on the part of the authorities. I filed complaints against him numerous times, over and over”--but to no avail, she said."

Posted by: andycanuck at March 22, 2012 09:14 AM (6RnvM)

134

Toulouse Serial Killer dies from vertigo and police sharpshooters, but mainly police sharpshooters

 

I miss these kinds of headlines

Posted by: Dumb_Blonde at March 22, 2012 09:15 AM (Zj7+u)

135 Hey his mom must be so proud of him now that he has finally flown from the nest?

Posted by: nevergiveup at March 22, 2012 09:16 AM (i6RpT)

136
Of le pistol Colt 45 de calibre 11,43, I have many. But alors, I prefer ze scissor keeck.

Posted by: Jean Claude Van Damme at March 22, 2012 09:16 AM (K6sn/)

137 Only because the French were idiots. That is not in dispute. They pussy-footed this situation for one reason only: to minimize the fallout from the Muslim community. But, in the end...

Posted by: Soothsayer at March 22, 2012 09:16 AM (jUytm)

138 I had to take a few minutes to think about this article too... I think it's saying he jumped through a window onto the same floor or he was already on the ground floor, then began shooting.

Posted by: thirtyandseven at March 22, 2012 09:17 AM (jW2TM)

139 I prefer to call him a jihadi. The media war we are fighting is here in the US and the West. He wasn't a serial killer. He was explicitly a jihadi. He was motivation was explicitly Islamic. The muzzies and the left are fighting to reclaim the word jihad and jihadi to be a good thing -- just something that some carry too far into violence. I want jihad and jihadi to always be dirty words and a signifier of Islamic butchery. He was a jihadi. This is what jihadis do.

Posted by: Clubber Lang at March 22, 2012 09:17 AM (ZPrif)

140 "But, in the end..."

Posted by: Soothsayer at March 22, 2012 01:16 PM (jUytm)



Where's Kratos?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at March 22, 2012 09:17 AM (nEUpB)

141 What's the lesson here? The lesson here is that political correctness kills.

Posted by: Soothsayer at March 22, 2012 09:18 AM (jUytm)

142 That used to be the case, but I wonder if they are still as tough?

This fuckstick hit seven of them? Come on...any half-way decent SWAT team would have done better.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at March 22, 2012 01:11 PM (nEUpB)

It's not that they're tough; it's that they run in packs.  If you see one or two, be assured that another dozen are close by.

 If you see a thin red stripe on their uniforms, be very careful.  That's the CRS, and they get paid to stomp

Posted by: SantaRosaStan at March 22, 2012 09:18 AM (Dll6b)

143 French Muzzie yoots go on car burning rampages in 3...2....1...

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 22, 2012 09:18 AM (UOM48)

144 Over/under on cars burned in France tonight: 800

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at March 22, 2012 09:18 AM (3Zo6I)

145 "flown the nest"  LOL


Posted by: Jimbo at March 22, 2012 09:18 AM (O3R/2)

146 clearly we need to focus on white militants

Posted by: akak at March 22, 2012 09:19 AM (vfQBi)

147 I thought the official moron spelling was....Moo-Ham-Mad.

Posted by: wheatie at March 22, 2012 09:19 AM (4GgJq)

148 And we'll learn that lesson here, too, when an airliner goes down because a TSA fool decided to inspect granny's stockings instead of Mohammed T. Abdul in seat 39C.

Posted by: Soothsayer at March 22, 2012 09:19 AM (jUytm)

149 "As Allah as my witness, i thought Jihadis could fly."

Posted by: Mr. Carlson at March 22, 2012 09:19 AM (3Zo6I)

150 Wee do not neeeed help from ze likes of zis Jean-Claude Van Damme.  He eez not eeven Frrrrench!  He eez ze Belgian!

Posted by: Agent Monsieur L'Gendarme at March 22, 2012 09:20 AM (DrWcr)

151
Over/under on cars burned in France tonight: 800

Likelihood that the "youths" doing the burning will be identified as muslim:  Zed.

Posted by: Wodeshed at March 22, 2012 09:20 AM (K6sn/)

152 This crap happens in France because they don't have midnight basketball.

Posted by: Chicago Voter at March 22, 2012 09:20 AM (Pir3k)

153 What worries me most?  Not getting free condoms.


Posted by: Sandra Fluke at March 22, 2012 09:20 AM (O3R/2)

154 The left is very quick to remind us that "jihad" simply means "personal struggle".

Yeah. Kind of like "Mein Kampf".

Posted by: The Mega Independent at March 22, 2012 09:20 AM (p5DQR)

155 He wasn't a serial killer. He was explicitly a jihadi. He was motivation was explicitly Islamic.

Yep.  That's what he called himself.

He tells them he's a jihadi and they call him a liar.



My apologies to whatever movie I stole that line from, I can't remember.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 22, 2012 09:20 AM (X3lox)

156 Zees raid ees the most audacious plan in 600 years!

Posted by: Sarkozy at March 22, 2012 09:20 AM (Qxdfp)

157 Posted by: SantaRosaStan at March 22, 2012 01:18 PM (Dll6b)

Ah yes. They are charming. Supposedly they keep them in buses in the hot sun before they are needed at riots. Just before they are released they toss in raw meat.

And...they never work where they live, so they have no parochial attachments to the heads they are bashing.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at March 22, 2012 09:20 AM (nEUpB)

158 >>>They pussy-footed this situation for one reason only: to minimize the fallout from the Muslim community.

>>>But, in the end...

Being decisive and nonchalant (to use the lingo) about the decision to kill him would have been their best deterrent. Don't give him 33hours of spotlight to secure his position as a martyr, and reinforce their perception of your weakness.

Give him 10 minutes and shoot his ass for not surrendering. And then act like it was what you expected to do on Wednesday. It would be nice if he was already being hauled to the morgue by the time the news vans got there.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose finally remembers why he's here at March 22, 2012 09:20 AM (0q2P7)

159 What happened, did someone bring the wrong cheese? Were the crusts still on the finger sandwiches?
Canadian-born terrorist, Omar Khadr, likes finger sandwiches too!
http://tinyurl.com/7bwvafx

Posted by: andycanuck at March 22, 2012 09:21 AM (6RnvM)

160 159
And we'll learn that lesson here, too, when an airliner goes down because a TSA fool decided to inspect granny's stockings instead of Mohammed T. Abdul in seat 39C.

---   The 'T' stands for Terrorist, fyi  

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at March 22, 2012 09:21 AM (3Zo6I)

161 As to the update on Sarkozy-remeber Sarkozy has taken a step even the US has not- Sarkozy had the balls too ban the burqa.

Posted by: tasker at March 22, 2012 09:22 AM (r2PLg)

162

The pavement was the wind beneath his wings.

Posted by: Heralder at March 22, 2012 09:22 AM (/Mxso)

163 Misguided fellow, only thinks he was a jihadi.

Posted by: Nick Sarkozy at March 22, 2012 09:22 AM (QKKT0)

164 damn it - ^to^ ban the burqa.

Posted by: tasker at March 22, 2012 09:22 AM (r2PLg)

165
Wee do not neeeed help from ze likes of zis Jean-Claude Van Damme. He eez not eeven Frrrrench! He eez ze Belgian!


How else would I explain zees outraaaaaageous accent?  Comme la Walloon?


Posted by: Jean Claude Van Damme at March 22, 2012 09:22 AM (K6sn/)

166 In scenes reminiscent of a Hollywood film, Oh, so it's Hollywood's fault.

Posted by: nickless at March 22, 2012 09:23 AM (MMC8r)

167 ahhhhhh this is my favourite time of the year

cheerleader tryouts

Posted by: akak at March 22, 2012 09:23 AM (vfQBi)

168 andy i received a 404

Posted by: willow at March 22, 2012 09:23 AM (TomZ9)

169 I'm really surprised at the outcome.  When I heard the French police were negotiating with him, I fully expected the cops to surrender.

Posted by: RC at March 22, 2012 09:23 AM (mQMnK)

170 They would have attacked sooner, but it took 33 hours to build the wooden rabbit.

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at March 22, 2012 09:23 AM (3Zo6I)

171 Was he a fly by night Jihadist?

Posted by: nevergiveup at March 22, 2012 09:24 AM (i6RpT)

172 Does your terrorist bite?

Posted by: Inspector Clouseau at March 22, 2012 09:24 AM (Qxdfp)

173 dang ya'll...... people fall out windows everyday....... some get shot on the way down, some dont.

Posted by: Racefan at March 22, 2012 09:24 AM (6aS1N)

174 >>>Sarkozy had the balls too ban the burqa.


Despite my disdain for everything the burqa represents; I would never laud a movement to ban it. Rights and such.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose finally remembers why he's here at March 22, 2012 09:24 AM (0q2P7)

175 I heard the French Police chose to go in on their own, as the negotiators were in the final stages of surrendering Paris.

Posted by: Darth Chipmunk at March 22, 2012 09:25 AM (0tRzD)

176 We must be implacable in defending our values.

Yes, our sacred French values must be upheld at all costs.

Posted by: Philippe Petain at March 22, 2012 09:25 AM (QKKT0)

177

Sarkozy had the balls to ban the burqa.

----

A crime against fashion no doubt.

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at March 22, 2012 09:25 AM (3Zo6I)

178 Mike i agree, except for ID and verifying ID

Posted by: willow at March 22, 2012 09:25 AM (TomZ9)

179 Barry's probably on the phone to Sarkozy right now, advising him on proper Muslim burial etiquette.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 22, 2012 01:00 PM (UOM4

 

That would be feeding his body to pigs, and making a utube vid of it.

Posted by: Hydrocarbon Liberation Front at March 22, 2012 09:25 AM (NVu2l)

180 Give him 10 minutes and shoot his ass for not surrendering. And then act like it was what you expected to do on Wednesday. It would be nice if he was already being hauled to the morgue by the time the news vans got there. Posted by: MikeTheMoose finally remembers why he's here at March 22, 2012 01:20 PM (0q2P7) ********* Well according to the "patron du RAID" which I'm loosely translating to Captain- this was the first time in his life -that he knows of a suspect attacking the police in a raid. Essentially they don't have much experience with the that.

Posted by: tasker at March 22, 2012 09:25 AM (r2PLg)

181 I did all I could.

Posted by: Chief Inspector Jacques Clouseau at March 22, 2012 09:25 AM (MMC8r)

182 Due to the restraint shown by the police, we will only burn 1,000 cars this weekend, rather than 1,500.

Posted by: French Muslims at March 22, 2012 09:26 AM (ggRof)

183

Well it's an election year in France....n'est pas? ....Soooo, Sarkozy he ees tiptoeing on zee tightrope of political correctness.

 

His opponent call for a 'Declaration of War against the Islamic Terroreests'. ....I guess she is someone who is to the right of Sarkozy?

Posted by: wheatie at March 22, 2012 09:26 AM (4GgJq)

184 Gravity.  It's a bitch, man.

Posted by: Mohammed Mera at March 22, 2012 09:26 AM (QKKT0)

185 The Muslim faith has nothing to do with the insane acts of this man. Before targeting Jewish children, he targeted other Muslims. That's a crock. I don't think the scumbag had any idea they were muslim soldiers. All he knew was they were in Uniform. But good try

Posted by: nevergiveup at March 22, 2012 09:26 AM (i6RpT)

186 Does your terrorist bite?Posted by: Inspector Clouseau

AoSHQ: come for the ribald commentary, stay for the obscure references that only one in ten million will recognize.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] at March 22, 2012 09:26 AM (WdKsY)

187 Yeah, the irony is the French police were going in to hand over their weapons.

Posted by: Chicago Voter at March 22, 2012 09:26 AM (Pir3k)

188 193 Due to the restraint shown by the police, we will only burn 1,000 cars this weekend, rather than 1,500.   ---   See, we're dealing with moderates  

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at March 22, 2012 09:27 AM (3Zo6I)

189 That is not my terrorist.

Posted by: Sarkozy at March 22, 2012 09:28 AM (GTbGH)

190

"Due to the restraint shown by the police, we will only burn 1,000 cars this weekend, rather than 1,500."

 

You set a high bar, but I think we can beat that number.

Posted by: Trayvon Protestors at March 22, 2012 09:29 AM (4I3Uo)

191 O/T . . . to which Romney should counter, "Yeah, but I'm gonna starve yours, defund it, issue waivers to all states and to any individual or org or biz that wants one, then we're gonna get a 6/3 or 7/2 court and shred it, and then repeal it via reconciliation just like you stuffed it to us." Or something like that. I'm dreaming.

Posted by: I am the egg man, . . . at March 22, 2012 09:29 AM (a362c)

192
Sarkozy:  He is a very valuable potential source of information.

Chief Inspecteur Clouzeau:  Not anymorrre.

Posted by: Agence France Presse at March 22, 2012 09:29 AM (K6sn/)

193 AoSHQ: come for the ribald commentary, stay for the obscure references that only one in ten million will recognize.


two in a million

Posted by: fluffy minkey at March 22, 2012 09:29 AM (vRSeu)

194 Burning 1,000 cars will be considered a stimulus for Renault .

Posted by: Chicago Voter at March 22, 2012 09:30 AM (Pir3k)

195

I didn't see it in any of the articles but how far did he fall before succumbing to "sudden deceleration syndrome"

Posted by: clonefan at March 22, 2012 09:30 AM (+yR6J)

196 Let me get the name of this guy-it's Amaury de Hautecloque-who led the raid. "C'est la première fois de ma vie que je vois quelqu'un, alors que nous lançons un assaut, venir mener l'assaut contre nous", assure-t-il. Amaury de Hautecloque, petit-neveu du maréchal Leclerc, dirige le RAID depuis 2007. It's the first time in his life that he has seen someone attack. Add to that-for some reason he ordered them not to use shock grenades against him. Why ? Hell if I know. The only good excuse for that would be...hell if I know. Is it a potential fire hazard? It might have been an extremely old apartment building. Otherwise I can't think of a logical reason not to use those types of grenades against this type of jackhole.

Posted by: tasker at March 22, 2012 09:30 AM (r2PLg)

197 >>>Mike i agree, except for ID and verifying ID

Obviously law enforcement can (even in the US) order you to remove a face covering in order to determine your identity. And any private business that requires identification in order to perform a transaction can request you remove it, and deny you the transaction if you refuse.

But simply out in public? No I don't think the government has the right to tell you, you must keep your face uncovered at all times.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose finally remembers why he's here at March 22, 2012 09:30 AM (0q2P7)

198

185, 189...Mike, willow

 

What about driving a car with a burqa on? .....Seems like that could lead to some problems.

 

I remember a couple of years back, there was a case in Florida where a woman was refused a drivers license....but it was because she wanted to keep her full face cover on [full burqa] for her picture.

Posted by: wheatie at March 22, 2012 09:30 AM (4GgJq)

199 Meanwhile, the SCOAMF's muzzie BFF's in Libya aren't exactly shitting Skittles;

http://tinyurl.com/84vjsgx

One year later, Libya mess spreading guns and violence into Mali

Ahh, Arab Spring!

Posted by: kbdabear at March 22, 2012 09:30 AM (Y+DPZ)

200 Canadian-born terrorist, Omar Khadr, likes finger sandwiches too!
http://tinyurl.com/7bwvafx


404 Not Found

Posted by: Waterhouse at March 22, 2012 09:30 AM (w/anX)

201 Islamic terrorism is the only creed in which, when the perps eventually do what they constantly threaten to do, everyone acts somehow incredulous.

Posted by: navybrat at March 22, 2012 09:31 AM (CWF3q)

202 I love dozens of ass-hat 'surrender' references in the morning

What the French did wrong in WWII was not surrendering; it was collaborating

and collaboration did involve the police far more than the military

Posted by: SantaRosaStan at March 22, 2012 09:32 AM (Dll6b)

203 He thought he was an Arab spring. He thought wrong.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at March 22, 2012 09:32 AM (p5DQR)

204 His opponent call for a 'Declaration of War against the Islamic Terroreests'. ....I guess she is someone who is to the right of Sarkozy? Posted by: wheatie at March 22, 2012 01:26 PM (4GgJq) ************* Marie Le Pen.

Posted by: tasker at March 22, 2012 09:32 AM (r2PLg)

205 He died from the fall and a bullet in his head, but mostly the bullet in his head.

Posted by: dagny at March 22, 2012 09:32 AM (u50z0)

206 Ah hell, now I'm going to have to watch me some Pink Panthers.

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at March 22, 2012 09:33 AM (Qxdfp)

207 Marine Le Pen, Jean -Marie Le Pen's daughter.

Posted by: tasker at March 22, 2012 09:33 AM (r2PLg)

208 Ah hell, now I'm going to have to watch me some Pink Panthers. Posted by: Clutch Cargo at March 22, 2012 01:33 PM (Qxdfp) May I suggest a fine bottle of Mad Dog 20-20

Posted by: nevergiveup at March 22, 2012 09:34 AM (i6RpT)

209

Otherwise I can't think of a logical reason not to use those types of grenades against this type of jackhole.

----

And risk a fallen souffle? Mon Dieu

Posted by: Zombie Julia Childs at March 22, 2012 09:34 AM (3Zo6I)

210 Just remember, the difference between a Jihadist and a bucket of crap is the bucket.

Posted by: Chicago Voter at March 22, 2012 09:35 AM (Pir3k)

211 185, 189...Mike, willow

What about driving a car with a burqa on? .....Seems like that could lead to some problems.

I remember a couple of years back, there was a case in Florida where a woman was refused a drivers license....but it was because she wanted to keep her full face cover on [full burqa] for her picture.



Once again, for the purpose of establishing identity, I believe the government may order you remove a face covering temporarily. That includes being pictured without a face covering on your state issued identification.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose finally remembers why he's here at March 22, 2012 09:35 AM (0q2P7)

212 Sarkozy: Islam Had Nothing To Do With This.

Man, they ripped that old Clue Phone right out of the wall didn't they?

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at March 22, 2012 09:35 AM (Qxdfp)

213 I guess there were a lot of those silly French siren sounds: whawa whawa whawa. Even their sirens sound whiney.

Posted by: dagny at March 22, 2012 09:35 AM (u50z0)

214 After 33 hours the ordeal is finally over. And France ended up with only 3 divisions surrendering and another 2 in full retreat before it was all over with

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 22, 2012 09:35 AM (1Jaio)

215 219 May I suggest a fine bottle of Mad Dog 20-2

Is that the blue or red colored?

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at March 22, 2012 09:36 AM (Qxdfp)

216 #179 Sorry, willow. This one buried in my sock will actually work. (Pixy willing.)

Posted by: andycanuck at March 22, 2012 09:36 AM (6RnvM)

217 Yeah yeah Yeah but how does all this help Tebow in NY?

Posted by: nevergiveup at March 22, 2012 09:36 AM (i6RpT)

218 let's face it this guy would have self deported, it wouldn't have been an issue here

Posted by: akak at March 22, 2012 09:37 AM (vfQBi)

219 Sarkozy had the balls to ban the burqa. ---- A crime against fashion no doubt. Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at March 22, 2012 01:25 PM (3Zo6I) ******* Heh. To be serious for a moment I do think that's how Assad Jr. fooled a lot of Europe-his wife is a fashion plate.

Posted by: tasker at March 22, 2012 09:37 AM (r2PLg)

220 May I suggest a fine bottle of Mad Dog 20-2 Is that the blue or red colored? Posted by: Clutch Cargo at March 22, 2012 01:36 PM (Qxdfp) Depends, How bloodshot are your eye balls?

Posted by: nevergiveup at March 22, 2012 09:37 AM (i6RpT)

221

215...Marie Le Pen.

 

Heh, yeah. .....It's actually a 'he' and not a 'she'. .....Jean-Marie Le Pen. ....Several news-reader folk have called him a "she", though, in the last 24 hours.

Posted by: wheatie at March 22, 2012 09:38 AM (4GgJq)

222 231 Depends, How bloodshot are your eye balls?

Ah! Complementary colors! Got it.

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at March 22, 2012 09:38 AM (Qxdfp)

223 You know what the French did wrong after WWII? Acted like fucking assholes to NATO. We just saved your cowardly collaborating asses and you show us not respect you little fucking frogs. Hell, our side wasn't sure how the French were going to react post D-Day. They thought they might help the germans. Most of the fucking communists were educated in Paris, they would have probably sided with them had they gotten there first.

Posted by: dagny at March 22, 2012 09:39 AM (u50z0)

224 215...Marie Le Pen. Heh, yeah. .....It's actually a 'he' and not a 'she'. .....Jean-Marie Le Pen. ....Several news-reader folk have called him a "she", though, in the last 24 hours. Posted by: wheatie at March 22, 2012 01:38 PM (4GgJq) ******** Ya, cripes I'm flipping back and forth from Le Monde to here and my damn dyslexia is flaring. Gawd!

Posted by: tasker at March 22, 2012 09:39 AM (r2PLg)

225 216 He died from the fall and a bullet in his head, but mostly the bullet in his head.

Posted by: dagny at March 22, 2012 01:32 PM (u50z0)



Have you noticed that while we in the US like to make fun of our Euro LEO brethren, they seemed to be much better shots than our police officers.

Example:  a few years ago in the UK, the metro cops were tailing a terror suspect and they were made when he spotted them while in a subway station.  The lead detective had authority to use lethal force to prevent escape so he fired only one shot that hit the suspect square in the head.  Turned out, the suspect was not a terrorist at all, and not even Arab.

Now, this case where the French cops shoot him in the head as he's jumping out of a window.  That's fucking aimbot territory right there!



Compare this to how the NYPD or LAPD operate.   1000 rounds fired, only 3 hit the target.

Posted by: EC at March 22, 2012 09:39 AM (GQ8sn)

226 I like the Daily Mail's choice to call him a "serial killer." >>>> I don't. I think 'mass murderer' is more appropriate. Ted Bundy was a serial killer, and this guy couldn't carry Bundy's jock...

Posted by: Joejm65 at March 22, 2012 09:40 AM (UZuc4)

227 Jean as in Jean Luc Picard. Did you guys know that Jean Picard was a real French astronomer?

Posted by: dagny at March 22, 2012 09:40 AM (u50z0)

228 hard to concentrate with the lawyer lookin on

Posted by: akak at March 22, 2012 09:41 AM (vfQBi)

229 He have heart attack and fell out of window onto exploding bomb and was killed in a shooting accident.

Posted by: eleven at March 22, 2012 09:41 AM (KXm42)

230 French Fanatic Dies in Burka Hater Shootout! Right Wing Like Fanatic Dies in Shootout With Police, Islam Not At Fault! Islamic Acrobat Blows His Brains Out, Then Leaps To His Death. (Gets a perfect-ten from the French judge for style points and for sticking the landing!)

Posted by: And Irresolute at March 22, 2012 09:41 AM (RC3M9)

231 yeah. Le Pen's son is a guy.  makes sense. 

"Jean" is a dude's name in France ----"Jeanne" is the dudette version

Posted by: SantaRosaStan at March 22, 2012 09:42 AM (Dll6b)

232 Compare this to how the NYPD or LAPD operate. 1000 rounds fired, only 3 hit the target.

It's damn hard to hit the target with Al Sharpton hanging on your arm.

Posted by: dagny at March 22, 2012 09:42 AM (u50z0)

233 He didn't target muslims. He shot men he saw in military uniforms.

Posted by: mike at March 22, 2012 09:42 AM (kqXHe)

234 Jean-Marie.  Klaus Maria.  It's so confusing.


Posted by: Jimbo at March 22, 2012 09:42 AM (O3R/2)

235

 237....our Euro LEO brethren, they seemed to be much better shots than our police officers.

 

Maybe they are only given a few bullets? ....So they have to make each one count?

Posted by: wheatie at March 22, 2012 09:42 AM (4GgJq)

236 It's damn hard to hit the target with Al Sharpton hanging on your arm. Posted by: dagny at March 22, 2012 01:42 PM (u50z0) Or any one of the thousands of ACLU Lawyers

Posted by: nevergiveup at March 22, 2012 09:43 AM (i6RpT)

237

They pussy-footed this situation for one reason only: to minimize the fallout from the Muslim community.

How much more fallout can you get from a Muslim community than Jihad and the murder of 8 innocent citizens??? Oh wait......

Posted by: MrObvious at March 22, 2012 09:43 AM (2uovW)

238 He didn't target muslims. He shot men he saw in military uniforms. Posted by: mike at March 22, 2012 01:42 PM (kqXHe) YES

Posted by: nevergiveup at March 22, 2012 09:44 AM (i6RpT)

239 Maybe they are only given a few bullets? ....So they have to make each one count?

Posted by: wheatie at March 22, 2012 01:42 PM (4GgJq)


Maybe.  But they also make very fine handguns as well.  I have several Euro varieties.

Posted by: EC at March 22, 2012 09:44 AM (GQ8sn)

240 middle names don't count as much, Jimbo. 

French law used to specify an 'approved' list of names for men and women. Still sorta on the books but not enforced ( mostly due to Breton and Mooslim names )

Posted by: SantaRosaStan at March 22, 2012 09:45 AM (Dll6b)

241

France is drawing the Maginot Line in the sand.

Also, note that the culprit was not just a serial murderer.  He was also a scooter rider.

I expect scooter riders to be profiled going forward.  This madness must stop.

Posted by: nathan_detroit at March 22, 2012 09:45 AM (+q3dR)

242 He didn't target muslims.

Posted by: mike at March 22, 2012 01:42 PM (kqXHe)

 

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Prove it. 

Posted by: Not an Artist at March 22, 2012 09:45 AM (Lo/3Q)

243 my word of wisdom for today......... chile dogs with mustard are good for lunch........

Posted by: Racefan at March 22, 2012 09:46 AM (6aS1N)

244 I think they should have just shot a rocket into the room. Why go in and have 5 men shot? Just scrap him off the walls later.

Posted by: mike at March 22, 2012 09:46 AM (kqXHe)

245 251 He didn't target muslims. He shot men he saw in military uniforms.
Posted by: mike at March 22, 2012 01:42 PM (kqXHe)

YES

Posted by: nevergiveup at March 22, 2012 01:44 PM (i6RpT)

 

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Prove it.

Posted by: Not an Artist at March 22, 2012 09:46 AM (Lo/3Q)

246 I expect scooter riders to be profiled going forward.


Scooters make sense in Euroland where gas is $8/gallon.

Posted by: EC at March 22, 2012 09:46 AM (GQ8sn)

247 Turns out this guy was on the U.S. "Don't Fly" list

Posted by: dagny at March 22, 2012 09:46 AM (u50z0)

248

I like the fact that the ostensible reason I have heard for why French police had to lay seige to a whole street block and stand off against 1 wackjob muzzie for 2 days, 'suspending' and retreating multiple times from him, was because they wanted him alive for intel.

 

A few days and a few wounded police later it ends with him dead anyway.

 

These French people are so full of win. Have a frog leg, sparky. You deserve it.

Posted by: Entropy at March 22, 2012 09:47 AM (TULs6)

249 re. 32 hours.

Why are we upset about not hurrying?  Taken alive he might have given up some useful intel and I'm pretty sure the French could still find some pre-trial terminal loophole in their prison system.  Plus everybody gets a day and a half to move their car and fill up the fire trucks.

Posted by: DaveA at March 22, 2012 09:47 AM (TcY34)

250 He didn't target muslims. He shot men he saw in military uniforms. Posted by: mike at March 22, 2012 01:42 PM (kqXHe) YES Posted by: nevergiveup at March 22, 2012 01:44 PM (i6RpT) ----------------------------- Prove it. Posted by: Not an Artist at March 22, 2012 01:46 PM (Lo/3Q) I don't have to prove it. You prove he knew they were muslim

Posted by: nevergiveup at March 22, 2012 09:47 AM (i6RpT)

251 259 You would have to prove he knew they were muslims. We know that they were in uniform. Therefore, unless he knew they were muzzies, he shot them because of their uniform.

Posted by: dagny at March 22, 2012 09:48 AM (u50z0)

252

Apparently....Jean-Marie Le Pen, the 82 year old founder of the far right 'Front Nationale' party....handed over the reins to his daughter, Marie, last year.

 

So therein lies the cause for confusion.

Posted by: wheatie at March 22, 2012 09:48 AM (4GgJq)

253 261 Turns out this guy was on the U.S. "Don't Fly" list

Posted by: dagny at March 22, 2012 01:46 PM (u50z0)


Are you here all week?

Posted by: EC at March 22, 2012 09:48 AM (GQ8sn)

254 Of course he knew the soldiers were muslim. They were blowing each other when he shot them.

Posted by: French Muslims at March 22, 2012 09:48 AM (ggRof)

255 <<Compare this to how the NYPD or LAPD operate. 1000 rounds fired, only 3 hit the target.>>

In this case it was likely French version of SWAT. And our SWAT guys have taken some pretty amazing shots.

Bing "sniper shoots gun out of hand"

Posted by: Buzzsaw at March 22, 2012 09:48 AM (tf9Ne)

256 I like the Daily Mail's choice to call him a "serial killer." It's good to stress that these are not "revolutionaries" or Holy Warriors or whatever delusional gay-panic romantic claptrap they've convinced themselves of, but simply murderers.

I like irhabist sp? (Unholy Warrior)

Posted by: DaveA at March 22, 2012 09:49 AM (TcY34)

257 He didn't target muslims. He shot men he saw in military uniforms.

Posted by: mike at March 22, 2012 01:42 PM (kqXHe)



It's the cans!  He hates cans!!

Posted by: Navin Johnson at March 22, 2012 09:49 AM (X3lox)

258 In this case it was likely French version of SWAT. And our SWAT guys have taken some pretty amazing shots.

I've seen Top Shot.

Posted by: EC at March 22, 2012 09:49 AM (GQ8sn)

259 I'm thinking of organizing National Wear a Burka Day. Men and women can partake. I don't think Americans rely understand how intimidating it is to stare down a mound of fabric, or how inprisoning it feels to be inside of one.

Posted by: Lauren at March 22, 2012 09:49 AM (hWQVK)

260 Anyone ever do a tour of the Maginot line installations? Pretty cool as far as tours go. Same with the "Hitler's Secret Bunkers" tour at Berchtesgaden.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 22, 2012 09:50 AM (HethX)

261 Hope he has fun with the 72 Virginians beating the hell out of him in Heaven.

Posted by: nickless at March 22, 2012 09:51 AM (MMC8r)

262

Why are we upset about not hurrying? Taken alive he might have given up some useful intel

 

Because he's dead.

 

Oh sure, it's a nice idea. Good idea. Poor execution.

 

If it ends with him dead anyway, they should have just shot him in the first 5 minutes. Way to drag an armed police standoff out 2 days because they suck.

Posted by: Entropy at March 22, 2012 09:51 AM (TULs6)

263 Anyone ever do a tour of the Maginot line installations? Pretty cool as far as tours go.Same withthe "Hitler's Secret Bunkers" tour at Berchtesgaden.

My Bucket List. 

Easy Company from 'Band of Brothers' took Berchtesgarden and "liberated" the good shit before everyone else got there.

Posted by: EC at March 22, 2012 09:51 AM (GQ8sn)

264 In Germany, France, Spain, Mexico, etc. Catholics often honor the Blessed Virgin by giving both male and female children Maria or Marie as a middle name.


Posted by: Jimbo at March 22, 2012 09:51 AM (O3R/2)

265 http://tinyurl.com/7j9xwkj

Dedication to Mo

Posted by: akak at March 22, 2012 09:52 AM (vfQBi)

266 Posted by: Not an Artist at March 22, 2012 01:46 PM (Lo/3Q)

I don't have to prove it. You prove he knew they were muslim

Posted by: nevergiveup at March 22, 2012 01:47 PM (i6RpT)

 

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The soldiers he shot were Algerian - as in they were born in Algeria.  Algeria is a predominately muslim country.  Ergo..............  It would have very easy for this guy to have followed these soldiers and determined their faith quite easily.  He shot these soldiers specifically because they were muslim and had joined the French army.  Therefore, they were apostates - a mortal sin in Islam. 

Now, unless you can prove he did not know they were muslim and he shot them for that specific reason - then STFU.

Posted by: Not an Artist at March 22, 2012 09:52 AM (Lo/3Q)

267 I get an uneasy feeling every time I see a person in a full burqa with a bulge around the middle.

Posted by: hwan wheatie at March 22, 2012 09:53 AM (4GgJq)

268 261 Turns out this guy was on the U.S. "Don't Fly" list
---   If i'd known it'd work that well i'd have put him on the "Don't Kill" list and Solyndra on the "Don't go Bankrupt list" and Michelle on the "Don't go fat assed" list.  
   

Posted by: Barry at March 22, 2012 09:54 AM (3Zo6I)

269

 <<Compare this to how the NYPD or LAPD operate. 1000 rounds fired, only 3 hit the target.>>

 

True! But that's kind of damning with false praise.

 

Didn't one of those left coast cities in Cali recently get sent to remedial training, to improve their awareness of what the hell they're shooting at, on account of putting 3500 rounds into a minivan with a couple of teenagers in it again?

Posted by: Entropy at March 22, 2012 09:54 AM (TULs6)

270 Easy Company from 'Band of Brothers' took Berchtesgarden and "liberated" the good shit before everyone else got there. Posted by: EC at March 22, 2012 01:51 PM (GQ8sn) That's because I wasn't there to keep order

Posted by: Capt. Sobel at March 22, 2012 09:54 AM (i6RpT)

271 Anyone hear how Shannon Doherty is doing on her degree at mydegree123.com ? Or what her major is.

Posted by: Jimmah at March 22, 2012 09:54 AM (mZ+XA)

272 http://thisainthell.us/blog/?p=29234

Posted by: akak at March 22, 2012 09:56 AM (vfQBi)

273 I hope you get there EC, God only knows how long stuff like that will remain preserved/open for tours.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 22, 2012 09:56 AM (HethX)

274 He shot these soldiers specifically because they were muslim and had joined the French army. Therefore, they were apostates - a mortal sin in Islam. Now, unless you can prove he did not know they were muslim and he shot them for that specific reason - then STFU. Posted by: Not an Artist at March 22, 2012 01:52 PM (Lo/3Q) He tried to join the French Army also and got shit canned so for all you know he was just pissed an the "Generic" French Soldier since he was turned down, but nice try

Posted by: nevergiveup at March 22, 2012 09:56 AM (i6RpT)

275 268 261
Turns out this guy was on the U.S. "Don't Fly" list


Posted by: dagny at March 22, 2012 01:46 PM (u50z0)

Are you here all week?

Posted by: EC at March 22, 2012 01:48 PM (GQ8sn)



Why do you ask, asshole?



http://tinyurl.com/78t57uk

Posted by: dagny at March 22, 2012 09:56 AM (u50z0)

276

Didn't one of those left coast cities in Cali recently get sent to remedial training, to improve their awareness of what the hell they're shooting at, on account of putting 3500 rounds into a minivan with a couple of teenagers in it again?

---

But it had a McCain/Palin sticker on it. And you have any idea of the carbon footprint of a minivan?

 

Posted by: LAPD union rep at March 22, 2012 09:58 AM (3Zo6I)

277 Hahah.. Dagny, I'm 99% sure he thought your "don't fly list" comment was a joke about Mohammed falling out the window. I was wondering if you'd see it that way. Apparently not.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 22, 2012 09:58 AM (HethX)

278 He tried to join the French Army also and got shit canned so for all you know he was just pissed an the "Generic" French Soldier since he was turned down, but nice try

Posted by: nevergiveup at March 22, 2012 01:56 PM (i6RpT)

 

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So, next you'll be telling us that he didn't know the children he killed were Jewish.  Are you trying to say that all of his targets were random?  If that's the case, why did he waste his time training with terrorists in Pakistan?  Sounds like a waste of time unless you are planning to target your kills.

 

Dude, are you really this niave? 

Posted by: Not an Artist at March 22, 2012 10:00 AM (Lo/3Q)

279

Dang, i thought it was an awesome joke with the 'no fly'.

 

I was kicking myself for not thinking of it myself

Posted by: Bill Mahar at March 22, 2012 10:00 AM (3Zo6I)

280 Are you claiming Dagny is part of the 1%, LincolnInftf?
;^)

Posted by: andycanuck at March 22, 2012 10:01 AM (6RnvM)

281 I was actually busy admiring the joke about the french muslims blowing each other.

Posted by: dagny at March 22, 2012 10:02 AM (u50z0)

282 Do we have a "Can't Fly" list?

Posted by: dagny at March 22, 2012 10:03 AM (u50z0)

283 >>>Dude, are you really this niave? Posted by: Not an Artist a Are you really this big of an asshole? Stop misrepresenting what people are saying.

Posted by: mike at March 22, 2012 10:04 AM (kqXHe)

284

I was kicking myself for not thinking of it myself

---

but since you were serious, i call DIBS

Posted by: Bill Mahar at March 22, 2012 10:05 AM (3Zo6I)

285

Why is this blog discussing dead french muzzies and not covering the major news item of the day, TEBOW TRADED TO JETS!

 

Are you conservatives afraid of this issue? You don't have any way to address it so it's just down the memory hole and ignore it, eh? Why do rethuglicans always run away from discussing the actual issues that matter to Americans?

Posted by: Entropy at March 22, 2012 10:05 AM (TULs6)

286

 

Sarkozy is French for Dipshit

Posted by: thebronze at March 22, 2012 10:08 AM (T8xg7)

287 299 >>>Dude, are you really this niave?
Posted by: Not an Artist a

Are you really this big of an asshole? Stop misrepresenting what people are saying.

Posted by: mike at March 22, 2012 02:04 PM (kqXHe)

 

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He's stated several times in this thread that this scumbag didn't know the soldiers were muslims.  If he has some proof, I'm just asking him to provide it to us.  I've stated my case, which is almost overwhelming, that the scumbag almost certainly knew the soldiers were muslim. 

 

Prove me wrong or STFU.  I'm starting to think both of you guys are just trolls and should be treated as such.

Posted by: Not an Artist at March 22, 2012 10:10 AM (Lo/3Q)

288 Now you've made me hungry for a french dip beef sandwich.

Posted by: mike at March 22, 2012 10:10 AM (kqXHe)

289 Not an Artist: fuck off, asshole.

Posted by: mike at March 22, 2012 10:11 AM (kqXHe)

290 I'm starting to think both of you guys are just trolls and should be treated as such.

Posted by: Not an Artist at March 22, 2012 02:10 PM (Lo/3Q)

**********

Says the troll.  Disingenuous, belligerant...Gabe, is that you?

Posted by: Troll Hunter at March 22, 2012 10:12 AM (ggRof)

291 307 I'm starting to think both of you guys are just trolls and should be treated as such.
Posted by: Not an Artist at March 22, 2012 02:10 PM (Lo/3Q)
**********
Says the troll. Disingenuous, belligerant...Gabe, is that you?

Posted by: Troll Hunter at March 22, 2012 02:12 PM (ggRof)

 

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Not a troll - just asking the poster to backup their ludicrous claims.  Apparently they can't. 

Posted by: Not an Artist at March 22, 2012 10:14 AM (Lo/3Q)

292 Who gives a fuck. He either shot them because they were in the Army. Or he shot them because they were muslims and in the Army. At this stage there's no way to fucking know. He hated non-Muslims and he hated muzzies who sold out and worked for the "enemy". He was jihadi scum. Fuck Muhammad. Fuck Islam.

Posted by: Clubber Lang at March 22, 2012 10:18 AM (ZPrif)

293

Mr. Sarkozy....... I'm sorry, but you're just not working out.

Good luck on your future endeavors.

Posted by: Your Wise Uncle Rick at March 22, 2012 10:22 AM (78zVP)

294

From now on, any person who habitually consults websites that advocate terrorism or that call for hatred and violence will be punished by the law.

 

Habitually consults? Criminal? How does that work? You're going to arrest people for looking at Jihadist websites? Only if they do it "habitually"?

 

This seems like it must either be meaningless pap, or else the announcment of the French launching an imminent crackdown on speech and the internet.

 

Probably pap.

 

France will not tolerate forced recruitment

 

Strawman

 

or ideological indoctrination on its soil.

 

Bwahaha. Oh, good one!

Posted by: Entropy at March 22, 2012 10:44 AM (TULs6)

295 I guess Sarkozy can get away with his "No True Scotsman" logical fallacy - since he's in France, and all.   ;-)

Posted by: Optimizer at March 22, 2012 10:55 AM (As94z)

296 It would have very easy for this guy to have followed these soldiers and determined their faith quite easily. He shot these soldiers specifically because they were muslim and had joined the French army. Therefore, they were apostates - a mortal sin in Islam.

I thought one of the three was Catholic.  Not so?

Posted by: toby928© at March 22, 2012 11:15 AM (GTbGH)

297 He wanted to go out like the Comte de Morcerf, but didn't have the class not to take anyone with him.

Posted by: grognard, SMOD-Squad at March 22, 2012 11:44 AM (NS2Mo)

298 Sorry - didn't have the class to not TRY to take anyone with him.

Posted by: grognard, SMOD-Squad at March 22, 2012 11:44 AM (NS2Mo)

299 Aren't the French having elections too?  I remember the guy who was going to challenge sarc cozy and he was uber popular then got cuaght up in that hotel maid problem and poof sarc cozy is back in the saddle again.  Haven't been following the election.  Is sarc cozy a lock or will they be pretty upset with him over a lot of stuff?

Posted by: hmmmm at March 22, 2012 11:45 AM (oZfic)

300 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: steevy at March 22, 2012 12:25 PM (7W3wI)

301 He went out like OBL.  Dead.  I had the same sense of loss.  We missed a chance to stuff some bacon up his ass before feeding his body to the dogs.

I just can't think kindly toward people who murder children.  It's a character fault, I'm sure.


Posted by: MarkD at March 22, 2012 01:44 PM (iYBP2)

302 One of the best books I've read on Islam is Mark Durie "The Third Choice: Islam, dhimmitude and freedom " http://www.amazon.com/Third-Choice-Islam-dhimmitude-freedom/dp/1926800001 Sarkozy should read this book to educate himself.

Posted by: rondo at March 22, 2012 02:01 PM (WgpyU)

303 Why did they shoot him? Didn't they want to question him?
Posted by: Jane D'oh

Unauthorized self-defense by police officers. They wanted to surrender to him.


Posted by: Kristopher at March 22, 2012 02:24 PM (Z3y1K)

304

"From now on, any person who habitually consults websites that advocate terrorism or that call for hatred an"d violence will be punished by the law."

This terrorist succeeded in eliminating freedom in France.

Posted by: Random at March 22, 2012 02:33 PM (ZIkmx)

305 Toby, yes, at least one of the North African-descended French soldiers who were shot was Catholic.

The guy aimed for Arabs in the army. He figured that the Catholic was an apostate Muslim and that the other Arabs were as good as apostate. Google "takfir".

Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at March 22, 2012 04:57 PM (QTHTd)

306

That bastard got what he deserved.

Hope he knows his place in history.

http://tinyurl.com/6v32f3e

Posted by: John at March 22, 2012 05:41 PM (c+AZi)

307 More breaking news - Whitney Housten is still dead! and Allah cannot take his name being used in vain by people who cannot fly.

Posted by: norbie at March 23, 2012 01:55 AM (ygNok)

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