1 I like it!

2 We are far too benevolent to our sworn enemies. Paybacks are hell. Just like the story the other day about the Afganistan leaders going to suspend polio vaccines because of the drone strikes. Okay, MFers, go ahead. On your head be it.

3

BRING BACK THE BOMB

http://preview.tinyurl.com/yjg4zro

4 Kill em. Kill em all.

5 Red on Red is the sweetest confrontation.

6 fuck 'em

7 Burn their children's laughter.

8 There is nothing incongruent in the two statement that we as Americans are noble do-gooders and we should kill every Iranian terrorist enabler we can find.

That is also a very good thing -- for America and the world.

9 Lebroom James!1!1!

10 Let them kill themselves.  Not a single dollar or drop of blood is worth anything Syria has to offer.  Fuck them all.

11 Out...damned sock!

12 Is today Elizabeth Warren's birthday?

13 "... If we can't kill them with kindness, perhaps it's time to try just killing them." Now THAT'S a foreign policy I like.

14

Burn their children's laughter.

 

I will be stealing this and employing it  without attribution.

15 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable tyrant.

16

That won't be happening. SCoaMF let the military in Afghanistan fall to the position of relying solely on the goodness of Putin (supply line wise). Needless to say, the US will do whatever Russia lets us do in Syria.

 

17 Nuke 'em from orbit.  It's the only way to be sure.

18

If we can't kill them with kindness, perhaps it's time to try just killing them.

 

Bumper sticker.

19 I will be stealing this and employing it without attribution. It's from The Gates of Delirium off of Relayer. Choose and renounce throwing chains to the floor. Kill or be killing faster sins correct the flow. Casting giant shadows off vast penetrating force To alter via the war that seen As friction spans the spirits wrath ascending to redeem.

20 Let them kill themselves. Not a single dollar or drop of blood is worth anything Syria has to offer.

This.  I see no reason to do anything.  Let them all kill each other, deal with the winners as appropriate. 

Not everything is our fight.

21 Agreed. If we intercede then their future democratic elections would result in another sharia country who would b better focused on destroying western civilization. Just because ppl r getting killed somewhere doesnt mean it's a problem. If 1940's japan had broken into a civil war would we have tried to make them play nice? These people r our enemies, lettng kill them kill each other is the best case scenario for us.

22 Holy acronyms, Batman.

23

Thank God.  Finally somebody with at least 1 damn testicle to his name.  If only we had more folks like this making the big decisions.

 

At this point in history, most of the world's problems are only to be resolved by MORE killing, not less.

 

As for Americans liking to be do-gooders, I agree.  We are badly afflicted by that horrid folly.  It's really one of our worst characteristics.  Sticking our noses in where they do not belong, and trying to "save" everyone, even from their own stupidity.  I wish we'd get a clue about that.

24 Listen, your friends have been broken, They tell us of your poison; Now.we.know. Kill them, give them as they give us. Slay them, burn their children's laughter On to hell.

25

This is the sort of thing we need.

 

No nation building bullshit. Make them shoot each other. That's smart power.

26 I agree with this, but then again I much prefer American's Cold War foreign policy to America's post cold war foreign policy.

27 Don't fire until you see the whites of their human shields' eyes!

28 I think our CIA sharing intel with the Turks about goings on inside Syria is a big mistake. That Turkish plane that went down in Syria? Near the Turkish border? Know who lives there? Kurds. Lots and Lots of Kurds. Just like the Kurds in norther Iraq that sit on top of Iraq's oil fields. You know who hates the Kurds? The Turks, with a passion white hot like the sun. Why was the Turkish jet in that part of Syria? Yes its near the border, but I don't think we should trust the Turks anymore.

29

I'll just go on record now and say that we partition Syria along religious and ethnic lines.

 

His time has come.  Biden II.

30 I like carpets and MOABS...

31

War is a horrible and terrible thing... so over the centuries the West created rules of war, so war could be held in check.... so that there were actual periods of Peace in between open conflict.

 

Now our policys have degenerated to lower levels.  We have numerous UNDECLARED Wars being waged, with open assasinations, and crossing neutral borders to go after enemies.

 

We have even admited to waging CyberWar... with no notice to our enemies.

 

There will be no End to this.  Our Government has created the framework for unendless War... while also destroying the Rules, which were put in place, to protect our own soldiers.

 

Why? Because those in power understand that the American Electorate will Cede more power to the Government in time of War (TSA anyone)... and to KEEP that power, they cannot END the war...

32 Endorsed.

When do we start?

33 The fist will run, grasp metal to gun. The spirit sings in crashing tones, We gain the battle drum. Our cries will shrill, the air will moan and crash into the dawn. The pen won't stay the demon's wings, The hour approaches pounding out the Devil's sermon.

34 We should be treating these guys like Andrew Jackson treated Elizabeth Warren.

35 A Turkish military aircraft has crashed in Syria, according to media reports. A local witness has told RT Arabic that the plane crashed on Syrian territory and the two pilots were captured.

36 What is it w lefties? They want the world population reduced by 90% and everyone eating bark for sustenance, but everytime any idiot tries to win the darwin awards the left tries to intervene and save them from themselves.

37 I have no problem with Muslim on Muslim violence.  It's win-win.

38 O/T
Hey Ace, why are there a billion Elizabeth Warren ads on your page? I mean I don't mind you taking her money, and hopefully you charge her exorbitantly, but its a little odd.

39 That's a reasonable idea but it's Not Gonna Happen under this President.

40

A local witness has told RT Arabic that the plane crashed on
Syrian territory and the two pilots were captured.

 

Of such things were August 1914 made.

41 Posted by: Iblis at June 22, 2012 11:18 AM (9221z) I'm guessing it's google ads, in which your searches are bringing up Warren shit. Which begs the question as to why you were looking for nudie pics of Warren?

42 Holy acronyms, Batman.


Yar.

43 "Dvlce et Decorvm Est Pro Eretz Israel Mori"

There, Morons, put it on some protruding marble facade and repeat often.

44 Hey Ace, why are there a billion Elizabeth Warren ads on your page?

I'm pretty sure he subscribes to an Ad Service which actually posts the ads, he doesn't choose them specifically.

Also, as you mention, it's a good way to force those with opposing view-points to waste money.

45 Tell me again why colonialism was a bad thing?  Because these places could sure    have used some Western ass-kicking back in the glory days of the British empire.

46

I mean I don't mind you taking her money, and hopefully you charge her exorbitantly, but its a little odd.

 

Just think how odd it is for her.

47 Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 22, 2012 11:19 AM (B+qrE) No shit, I've got the feeling the 21st century is going to be nothing more than a redux.

48

The world is a nasty and brutish place and sometimes social work by military force isn't going to get what we need done. If we can't kill them with kindness, perhaps it's time to try just killing them.

 

I would love to go back to a foreign policy that starts from the premise that when we send our troops somewhere, that is what they will do.  If other good things happen after we defeat the enemy, that's great.   Oh, hey, that whole remembering that we have enemies and that we need to defeat them thing would be nice as well.

 

Related, I would like for the ROE for our troops to actually permit them to kill the people who are trying to kill them.  That would be nice.

 

 

49

 "Dvlce et Decorvm Est Pro Eretz Israel Mori"

 

Translation: It is a sweet and seemly thing to die for Israel.

50

Of such thingswere August 1914 made.

 

 

In 1914 the Turks had the greatest airforce in the world.

True Story. 

51 I think one of the reasons the US got involved in Afghanistan during the Soviet invasion, was to pay them back for Vietnam. Instead of US soldiers being killed with Soviet weapons by North Vietnamese, it was Soviet soldiers being killed with US weapons by Afghans. What goes around, comes around.

52 39 O/T Hey Ace, why are there a billion Elizabeth Warren ads on your page? I mean I don't mind you taking her money, and hopefully you charge her exorbitantly, but its a little odd. Posted by: Iblis It's more-or-less automatic. Ace sells space through a middleman, it's marketed as a political blog, political ads show up. It's not like Warren's people say they WANT more Ace exposure. I guess he could specifically reject the ad but why? Money in his pocket and money that Warren can't spend in a useful way.

53 Related, I would like for the ROE for our troops to actually permit them to kill the people who are trying to kill them. That would be nice.

 

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at June 22, 2012 11:20 AM (VtjlW)

 

*laughing*   Oh, ATC.  I never took you for such a dreamer!

54 44 Quintis, i dnt speak cherokee, i just live it. What does that mean?

55 3-2-1 go!

56

"Dvlce et Decorvm Est Pro Eretz Israel Mori"

 

This is currently  #3 on my list of possible penis tattoos.

57 Hey morons!  It's Elizabeth Warren's birthday!  How about we send about a special smoke signal with warm wishes??!!


Linky in my name

58 Which begs the question as to why you were looking for nudie pics of Warren?


Trying to lose weight, I would guess.

59 This is currently #3 on my list of possible penis tattoos. I'm sticking with the Barber Pole.

60 There will be no End to this. Our Government has created the framework for unendless War... while also destroying the Rules, which were put in place, to protect our own soldiers.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 22, 2012 11:16 AM (lZBBB)

 

 

 

 

Rules only work with civilized people.  Only Westerners, and maybe the modern Japanese, fall into that category.  The fact is that all non-western nations are perpetually at war with each other and with the west itself.  We just don't always shoot at each other.  A Candadian, or Eurpean - those kinds of folks can be reasoned with and will usually behave in an honorable fashion.  People of the Eastern Culture are generally untrustworthy liars, with no respect for human life.  They are always looking for a tender spot to stick the knife in.

 

Endless war is not so much a policy choice as it is a fact of nature.

61 I think one of the reasons the US got involved in Afghanistan during the Soviet invasion, was to pay them back for Vietnam.

It was part of the whole "not one Domino" strategy (or whatever it was really called).

Like all collectivist ideologies, Communism requires constant expansion until there is universal adherence (or, at least, subjugation).  We opposed the USSR any time they looked to be expanding Communism.  Usually it worked, sometimes it didn't.

62

 

Didn't the ME get all carved up into nation-states   as a result of WWI?  I'm a little fuzzy  on the history.

63 ABC Robot:  Status?

Rico:  Bodyguard.

ABC Robot:  Commander?

Rico:  Rico

ABC Robot:  Mission?

Rico:  Mission?  *laughs*  We're going to war.

ABC Robot:  WAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRR!!!!!!

64 39 O/T
Hey Ace, why are there a billion Elizabeth Warren ads on your page? I mean I don't mind you taking her money, and hopefully you charge her exorbitantly, but its a little odd.

Posted by: Iblis at June 22, 2012 11:18 AM (9221z)

 

Thats just some creepy ad company like Google going through your browsing history and displaying ads accordingly.

 

I dont see Warren ads, but I do have ads for nipple enlargers and research chemicals.

65 Hey morons! It's Elizabeth Warren's birthday! How about we send about a special smoke signal with warm wishes??!!


Give a fake email and a Massacuhsetts ZIP code.

66 > 51 Of such thingswere August 1914 made. In 1914 the Turks had the greatest airforce in the world. True Story. Posted by: Joe Biden : Fact Slayer Amusingly, the turks had the first army that was bombed. In 1912. Italians claimed they hit a military target, Turks claimed a hospital was destroyed.

67

*laughing* Oh, ATC. I never took you for such a dreamer!

 

The BFF (late lamented) used to constantly accuse me of being a wide eyed optimist. She could be really mean and hurtful when she wanted to be.

 

Hey Ace, why are there a billion Elizabeth Warren ads on your page?

 

There is nothing funnier than seeing Disney ads on the ONT.  Because, you know, that's when this here smart military blog is really really family friendly.

68 encouraging war between our enemies??? Isn't that what that evil Reagan did in the 1980's was between Iraq and Iran??? Oh, noes, we need to have our troops put on the blue UN helmets and get in the middle so the world knows that we care.

Off topic, from gateway pundit:

One of the worldÂ’s largest coal producers said Thursday it would lay off about 750 workers in the Kentucky, Virginia and West Virginia coalfields, the latest setback for an industry struggling to sustain market share as utilities switch to cleaner and cheaper alternatives to generate electricity.

The bulk of the cuts by Arch Coal Inc., almost 600, are in Kentucky. The disappearance of high-paying mining work heightened anxiety in hardscrabble Kentucky towns where officials worried declining demand for coal would result in leaner budgets and more people on unemployment rolls.

Thanks, Mr President

69 Ahhh, where is a Patton like General when we need him, answer, Retired as General Stanley A. McChrystal.
Talking to Rolling Stone can be a real career killer.
when we douch Obama, then I wonder what Stanely A,  has to say.

70 I see nothing.

71 Didn't the ME get all carved up into nation-states as a result of WWI? I'm a little fuzzy on the history.

Posted by: Count de Monet at June 22, 2012 11:24 AM (BAS5M)

It was more the fall of the Ottoman Empire, but WWI helped it along.

72

Let's have them fight and kill each other?

 

Interesting concept.  Go on, I'm listening...

73 Turkish jet did not crash, it was shot down by Syria.

74 Italians claimed they hit a military target, Turks claimed a hospital was destroyed. Posted by: Comrade Arthur at June 22, 2012 11:26 AM (44/AS) I see shit hasn't changed one bit...

75 Yeah, it would be awesome if we were just luring Iran into a trap.  Best not to talk about any civilians caught in the middle who have a singular policy of not getting blown up, though.  Might make all of that outrage about Neda back in '09 seem like bullshit if you're calling for hundreds of thousands of more dead Nedas just to spit in Iran's eye. 

God given natural rights of all human beings?  Fuck 'em, we need to get back at Iran. 

Plan B, please. 

76 67 What a coincidence. All israel and us ever seem to hit are hospitals. That was back when used bombs anyway.

77 Tell me again why colonialism was a bad thing? Because these places could sure have used some Western ass-kicking back in the glory days of the British empire.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter at June 22, 2012 11:20 AM (4df7R)

 

 

 

The only bad thing about colonialism was that the lands was usually just taken over - not cleaned out.  The US and Australia didn't have much in the way of problems once land was taken and settled, and the previous owners were gone.  But in the M.E., and in Africa, and Asia - the colonies were built on the backs of the locals who continued to comprise the bulk of the population.  It was inevitable that they would one day rise up, and would become unmanageable.

 

If you want to take land, take it.  Remove those who were upon it (preferably in a fashion that precludes them or their decendants from being around to take it back or cause trouble).  Then grow your own people, your own culture, upon that land.  It worked here.  It was ugly, but it worked.  It's the only solution that has EVER worked.

78 For the foreseeable future, the only US interest in these conflicts is to promote the MMG--Muslim Meat Grinder.  Keep each side at ~49-51% strength, indefinitely, until the jihadis/Baathis/Communists/fat generals kill each other down to a nuisance level, and the true pro-freedom elements can make their move.  Yes, INDEFINITELY.

Basically follow the Putin policy he's applying to his "near South."

79 75 Italians claimed they hit a military target, Turks claimed a hospital was destroyed. Posted by: Comrade Arthur at June 22, 2012 11:26 AM (44/AS) Keep our boys out of this. That is all I ask.

80 I say e let them kill each other.  We don't have a dog in that hunt.

81

What a coincidence. All israel and us ever seem to hit are hospitals.

 

Filled with teddy bears and the same old woman.

82 Yeah, it would be awesome if we were just luring Iran into a trap. Syria and Iran have the normal problems associated with being murderously oppressive dictatorships. Death for the innocent follows as night follows day.

83 Republicans can never be allowed to become the 'technocrats' of war like Democrats have been technocrats of every social policy. It is foolish to think we can add 1,000 soldiers here, cache of weapons there, and reach our intended goal. I support staying the hell away or overwhelming them with tremendous force that provokes the end of this for generations. Anything is the middle is costly, unfair to our military, and futile.

84 "Less Caring, More Killing."

Sounds like a good slogan to me...

85

It was part of the whole "not one Domino" strategy...

 

I think of D.Boone every time I see that phrase.

 

 

86 84 Paper come on man, that makes way too much sense.

87 Give the JEF his list, or deck of cards, or whatever, and it's "gentlemen, start your drones!" time.

Zero loves doing this.  Haven't we been told?  Well, let's hear about it in real time for this show.

Fuck, I don't care.  Let the WaPo, the NYT, and the LAT, plus the New Yorker folks, the assholes from Rolling Stone, Vanity Fair, Jonathan Chait and his boyfriends, shit, everybody's invited to the situation room for this one.

Put a couple of carriers off the Israeli coast as an ops center for the reaper force, ring them with a whole fleet of support ships and boomers, and start the radio-control action.  No live people need be put in harm's way.

Use Google technology to sniff out anyone speaking Farsi, and put a bumble-bee-sized smart-bomb right between all their little brown eyes.

And fire a cannon salute at the report of each and every kill, followed up by the live action scene from the skycams sent out to Al Jazeera.  Film at eleven?  No, film with every booming snuff-out.  Just like they treated us in Iraq.

I'm liking this idea of payback time.

88 Look, I'm a longtime Glass Parking Lot booster, 'kay?  I figured out a long time ago that (1) some folks just aren't coming around to how we see things, (2) for the most part we should just leave them to work through their lives, so long as it doesn't affect us, (3) but when it does affect us, we remind the world that the reason for a military action is to break things and kill people.

This guy has it right.  If these fools want to kill each other over who gets to be in charge of Thunderdome, I say sell munitions to both sides and let 'em at it.  Unless they start pointing them at us, at which point things end with us salting the fields around the ruins.

I am benevolent, as a rule.  But I am imperfect, and patience.  Has.  Limits.

89 60 This is currently #3 on my list of possible penis tattoos.

I'm sticking with the Barber Pole.


-------
No sharp objects near Mr. P.
Thank you, that will be all.

90 Are you effen vodka kidding me? When you open fire on the US armed forces, the results were "no good" or "no go". Pre-bow to the Saudi regime. When we finally caught up with the spawn of  Saddam, we had to turn the press away,because the 50 cal shells we used were piled up like wood chips outside the armor assault vehicles. Some of the public should have seen those photos. Now we let the enemy in our perimiter by Executive privilege.

91 Here's my solution, and thanks for asking. I just read that Syria has 100 metric tons of chemical weapons. Find 'em, light 'em. Problem solved.

92 We're all aspirin and babymilk factory workers now!

93

Istanbul was Constantinople
Now it's Istanbul, not Constantinople
Been a long time gone, Constantinople
Now it's Turkish delight on a moonlit night...

94

No sharp objects near Mr. P.

 

Mr. P - you bought it a monacle, didn't you?

 

95 @95
Like a sir.

96 Incentives matter, and how did we reward backwards, Stone Age nations for their involvement in terrorism? The only natural way of course, removing the one (unfortunate) but effective method of potentially keeping these diseased cultures in line (authoritarian rule) with a perverse form of corrupt, Islamic democracy. Attack us, and we'll spend billions of dollars and sacrifice thousands of lives in a futile attempt to make your country better. I have never heard of anything so fucking stupid.

97 Didn't Iran already fall for this once? See, E.G. Iran/Iraq war.

98 but We're a Global Force for GOOOOOOOODD .. we should help everyone

99 74 Turkish jet did not crash, it was shot down by Syria. Probably shot down by one of those fancy schmancey Russian anti aircraft missile's that they just sent over.

100 Light Syria on fire and hope it burns all the way back to Tehran and Moscow.

101 "It is well that war is so terrible, lest we should become too fond of it."
--Robert E. Lee, who would know.

"War...War never changes."
--OK, I'm quoting video games, it fits

102

Lebanon's Hezbollah-owned Al-Manar television station said on Friday that Syrian air defenses shot down a Turkish military aircraft, quoting Syrian security sources. 

"Syrian security sources confirmed to a Manar correspondent in Damascus that Syrian defense forces shot down the Turkish fighter jet," a news flash on the Beirut-based station said.

103 In Syria, I wish both sides could lose.

104 Turks are in it for their own interests, to kill Kurds and make sure it doesn't spill over their border. I don't care if they kill each other, but we should stay out of it.

105 As a former sevice member, one thig scares the crap out of we. We only know what the media tells us. What don't we know? Good God this whole thing is coming apart.

106

107 If Syria winds up in war with Turkey, are we obliged though NATO to defend the Turks?

108 The only positive is if they get so busy killing each other they leave the US and Israel alone.

109 It's a controversial notion because as Americans we like to see ourselves as the noble do-gooders making the world safe for democracy and not just ruthless power players who put our interest over our more nobler values.

Used to be that simply killing the enemy was doing good and making the world safe for democracy.

110

If Syria winds up in war with Turkey, are we obliged though NATO to defend the Turks?

Technically, yes.

111 I don't care if they kill each other, but we should stay out of it.

Turks are in NATO (for now).  If things go too far, we're in it by treaty.

112 I completely agree with Caruso.  Suppose we were to help topple the current Syrian government.  It would be replaced with one that's STILL made up of Muslims, and Muslims have demonstrated time and time and time again that their only interest is killing non-Muslims.

113 "War...War never changes."--OK, I'm quoting video games, it fitsPosted by: Brother Cavil

The games were fun but that hokey Ollie Stone shit made me chuck the headphones across the room.

114 yes, if Syria considers this an act of war and declares war against Turkey, we are obligated to protect them.

115 Posted by: BeckoningChasm at June 22, 2012 11:45 AM (i0App) I have to stop you right there... you forget this is their sport. They've definitely killed more muzzies than non-muzzies that's for sure.

116 We only know what the media tells us. What don't we know?

Hit the foreign sources.  I get better info from Auntie Beeb and--I honestly cannot believe I am typing this--effing al-Jazeera then from our domesticated media outlets.

Prepare for the biases, and adjust accordingly.

117 115 yes, if Syria considers this an act of war and declares war against Turkey, we are obligated to protect them. Posted by: Thunderb at June 22, 2012 11:46 AM (Dnbau) Didn't the Turks refuse us use of a port or highway during the height of our combat in Iraq?

118 Turks are in NATO (for now). If things go too far, we're in it by treaty.

Posted by: Brother Cavil presents at June 22, 2012 11:45 AM (GBXon)

 

 

 

Pfft.  Yet more justification for chucking NATO down the memory hole where it belongs.  That no longer has any use for us.  It's a drain. 

 

US out of Europe!!

 

That said, there are plenty of ways to pay lip service to such obligations without actually doing anything.  Or by doing very little.  Let the damn Jew-haters fight their own wars.

119

Just read the Wiki article on Syria to freshen my historical understanding.  Since the third millenia! B.C., people have been fighting over and dying  for their cause in Syria.

 

A giant smoking crater surrounded by a glass parking lot   would be a big improvement, just saying.

120 That said, there are plenty of ways to pay lip service to such obligations without actually doing anything. Or by doing very little. Let the damn Jew-haters fight their own wars. Posted by: Reactionary at June 22, 2012 11:48 AM (xUM1Q) You Damn right. A strongly worded letter to the UN should suffice.

121 That said, there are plenty of ways to pay lip service to such obligations without actually doing anything. Or by doing very little.

You mean like how they 'helped' in Iraq and Afghanistan?  Roger that, brother, roger that.

122

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Team Dagny at June 22, 2012 11:48 AM (9TTOe)

 

Pre Iraq, they would not allow us to Stage there to invade from the North...

123 Pre Iraq, they would not allow us to Stage there to invade from the North... Posted by: Romeo13 at June 22, 2012 11:50 AM (lZBBB) Well well well, I think a big FU is in order for that little move.

124 I have to stop you right there... you forget this is their sport. They've definitely killed more muzzies than non-muzzies that's for sure.

Posted by: cajun carrot at June 22, 2012 11:46 AM (UZQM

 

 

 

Only because there aren't many non-muz left around for them to kill in their own lands.  They have only each other to sate their blood lust.

 

Speaking of which, seems to me the Turks used to have this minority group around called Armenians...

125

Spock:  Captain, what are you doing?

James T. Kirk: Showing them compassion may be the only way to earn peace with Romulus. It's logic, Spock. I thought you'd like that.

Spock: No, not really. Not this time.

126

We should contrive to kill all of America's enemies. Overseas ones, anyway.

127 We are technically obligated to protect Turkey under NATO. But lets face it, we are NATO. NATO isn't going to pull the trigger unless we say so. The rest of NATO would demur. It would be us and Turkey as the only NATO members to commit forces, and I don't think we have the same interests in Syria as Turkey. It would be a disaster IMHO, with the possibility of the Turks committing atrocities and leaving us responsible.

128 Speaking of which, seems to me the Turks used to have this minority group around called Armenians... Posted by: Reactionary at June 22, 2012 11:52 AM (xUM1Q) Hmmm, that wouldn't have been Genocide, would it?

129 Exploit our own resources. Sweeten the pot so that Mexico and Canada ramp up production It will take a decade to bear fruit, but the ME will get the message immediatly: Play nice, or slowly starve.

130 Don't think the Turks wouldn't like to give the Kurds in Syria (and Turkey, and Iraq) the Armenian "treatment".

131 81 I say e let them kill each other. We don't have a dog in that hunt.
--- We're hunting dog?

132

this could be fun ...

133 113 I completely agree with Caruso. Suppose we were to help topple the current Syrian government. It would be replaced with one that's STILL made up of Muslims, and Muslims have demonstrated time and time and time again that their only interest is killing non-Muslims.

FIFY

134 The Turks.  It seemed for a while there, back in ye olden days, that Kamal Attaturk was going to finally drag those vermin half-way into the modern world.  Alas - the bastard couldn't live forever and the inevitable slide back into muslim barbarism is already nearly done.  Granted - they're not quite at the subhuman level of an Afghan, but still.  Anybody who goes out of their way to support the filthy Palis deserves nothing but contempt.

135

We had damned well keep track of what happens to the WMD stockpiles. I remain convinced that a LOT of Iraq's WMD program fled to their Sunni partners in crime in Damascas. After all, they had six full months to accomplish this. 

136

"I honestly cannot believe I am typing this--effing al-Jazeera then from our domesticated media outlets"

 

Yeah, I really like MEMRI tv.

137

This is currently #3 on my list of possible penis tattoos.

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I'm considering

Sex Club

or

perhaps the text of Atlas Shrugged (12 pt font)

138 I also think Iraq's deteriorating WMD are in warehouses in Syria.

139 138 ISWYDT

140 Italians claimed they hit a military target, Turks claimed a hospital was destroyed.

Might be true.  Does Fiat make targeting systems?

141 Might be true. Does Fiat make targeting systems? Posted by: Purp (@PurpAv) at June 22, 2012 12:03 PM (Q5hSa) I doubt it, they struggle with an automobile.

142 The last time Syria was worth a shit was when Rome ran it.

143 We should all support Ace by clicking on Warren's ads.

Great plan.  Shitting Bull Warren gives money to Ace because of thousands of clicks by Morons.

That's wealth distribution I can believe in.

144 If we are not supposed to kill people in the middle east, why did god make them muslims ?

145

The last time Syria was worth a shit was when Rome ran it.

Posted by: Vic at June 22, 2012 12:06 PM (YdQQY)

 

Word, Vic.

 

From Wiki:

 

In 1400,  Timur Lenk,  or Tamerlane, invaded Syria, sacked  Aleppo  and captured  Damascus  after defeating the Mamluk army. The city's inhabitants were massacred, except for the artisans, who were deported to  Samarkand.  (Good Idea!!)  It was during the conquests of Timur that the indigenous Christian population of Syria began to suffer under greater persecutions.

By the end of the 15th century, the discovery of a sea route from Europe to the Far East ended the need for an  overland trade route  through Syria. In 1516, the  Ottoman Empire  invaded the Mamluk Sultanate of Egypt, conquering Syria, and incorporating it into its empire, before conquering Egypt itself the following year. From that time until the 20th century, Syria found itself largely apart from, and ignored by, world affairs.

146

"I just read that Syria has 100 metric tons of chemical weapons. "

 

The former owner's name is right there on the tip of my tongue.  Jeez, I wish I could remember it. 

 

Meh.  Still Bush's fault anyway, right?

147 Awesomely excellent blog post Drew.

148 One man's humane policy is another's sign of weakness. We owe those iirg qods mother fuckers big time... Pipe-hittin'-blow-torchin'-medieval-asspain big time.

149

 If and when you go to war, you kill people and break things. Go, fight, kill everything that holds a weapon, then, make the rubble bounce. Take their gold and silver and other valuables... and come home. Leave them nothing but smoking rubble...

 ...and nukes are always on the table. Make 'em glow in the dark so that it's easier to see 'em and kill 'em.

 The ONLY reason to have overseas military bases is to make it easier - and quicker - to blow our enemies to hell.

 Don't ever start a fight, but make damned sure you end it with any tool or weapon that's handy, and end it in your favor.

 

150 Fox is reporting that the Turkish jet that was shot down was shot down over the ocean.

151 .. and people say Ron Paul is nuts ...

152

kill them and go back home, no rebuilding, no nation-building, no nothing...

just kill them and leave.

153 About Saddam Hussein's chem weapons being in Syria - the most compelling defense I've heard of that theory was this: What's the one thing more embarrassing to our government, re Iraq, than starting a war over WMD* and having it turn out there were none there? Implied answer: "Starting a war over WMD" and having them go astray because we did, or because we spent a year gearing up to go in for them. *: I know - Saddam had been committing acts of war since the last one ended, and it wasn't just about WMD. Still, that's sort of the shorthand in a lot of people's minds.

154 We should not get involved in Syria. This is a pissing match between Iran and the Muslim Brotherhood. Let them kill each other.

155 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

156 I think democracy, freedom and improving the lives of others should be a pleasant byproduct of American policy but the main goal should always be our interests. I'm sure it's been said before, but THIS^^^

157 Bismarck approves.

158 Elizabeth Warren has been one of the greatest and most passionate defenders of America's middle class in recent years.

from the sign the card site. Whatta buncha crap. I hope her birthday cake tastes like tobacco.

159 We must crush our enemies, see them driven before us, and hear the lamentation of their women!

160 "We've tried plenty of "do good" missions like Bosnia, Libya and even Afghanistan. How much good will has that bought us in the Muslim world?"

Permit me to add Somalia to that list.

161 Thank You!!!!

162 Jumping the propaganda gun:

Rather than simply reporting that one of their F-4 Phantoms disappeared over the Mediterranean, Turkey issues a statement that Syria apologizes for shooting it down, even though there is no report that Syria either shot it down or issued an apology to Turkey.

Turkey next announces uncertainty as to what it just announced.

163 Coolidge: "All Liberty Is Individual. The chief ideal of the American people is idealism. The chief business of the American people is business."

Keep it simple.

164 46 Tell me again why colonialism was a bad thing? Because these places could sure have used some Western ass-kicking back in the glory days of the British empire. Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter at June 22, 2012 11:20 AM (4df7R) Watched Lawrence of Arabia last night and did some reading. Damascus was liberated by Arabs under his leadership in 1918. They could not cooperate long enough to establish order in the city much less a functioning nation. The defeat and collapse of the Ottoman empire left a vacuum that the British and French filled. The xenophobic Bedouin moon god culture could not overcome its tribal hatreds so better organized cultures exploited them. History is replete with examples. This does not make colonialism good, just typical. As for the genocide that 'Reactionary' references, even if it were not an utterly repugnant strategy, it is not even remotely practical given the sizes and densities of the populations involved.

165 92 Here's my solution, and thanks for asking. I just read that Syria has 100 metric tons of chemical weapons. Find 'em, light 'em. Problem solved. Posted by: Gary from Jersey at June 22, 2012 11:35 AM 155 We should not get involved in Syria. This is a pissing match between Iran and the Muslim Brotherhood. Let them kill each other. Posted by: Shockwave at June 22, 2012 01:23 PM Gary, destroying stockpiles in Syria takes boots on the ground. I think that would be a very bad idea because I agree with Shockwave. As for the Turkey NATO war talk, Syria cannot control itself much less start some shit with a vastly better armed neighbor. Turkey won't start it because they know this is a proxy war between the Ayatollah and the and not worth their blood and treasure. However, even if they do, they will not need our help anyway.

166 ... between the Ayatollah and the Ikhwan ...

167 I say we airdrop thousands of RPGs into the country, with the stickler that 1 in ten is rigged for premature detonation.  I figure the Syrian regular army is killing the SFA at a rate of 10 to 1, so this will make it even AND increase the number of Al Queda types killed.

Step 3, Profit!!!