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October 03, 2012

Turkey Strikes Syria In Response To Weekend Shelling of Turkish Village
— Ace

A couple of days ago, Syria lobbed shells into a Turkish border town.

The shells exploded after being fired into Akcakale from Tall al-Abyad in Syria, where forces loyal to President Bashar al-Assad are trying to put down an 18-month-old insurgency.
The dead are said to include a woman and her three children.
Nine other people were wounded.
Turkish Deputy Prime Minister Bulent Arinc was quoted as saying that Syria must be made to account for the incident and there must be a response under international law.

Reuters just reported:

TURKEY SAYS HAS STRUCK TARGETS IN SYRIA IN RESPONSE TO MORTAR STRIKE ACROSS BORDER - STATEMENT FROM PRIME MINISTER'S OFFICE

Via @johnekdahl

Panetta: We've Lost Track of Some of Syria's Chemical Weapons. And they don't know whose hands they might have fallen into.

Posted by: Ace at 11:05 AM | Comments (278)
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1 Did sh*t just get real?

Posted by: Insomniac at October 03, 2012 11:06 AM (DrWcr)

2 I realize that it might make me a heartless cynical bastard, but part of me thinks we should be arming both sides in Syria.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 03, 2012 11:07 AM (SY2Kh)

3 Screw 'em both.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 03, 2012 11:07 AM (QKKT0)

4 WWIV starts while we are still fighting WWIII Let the whole Middle East BURN.....

Posted by: izoneguy at October 03, 2012 11:07 AM (oKH8p)

5
..... nice to know there are still some Leaders in the world that will defend their people.

Posted by: fixerupper at October 03, 2012 11:07 AM (C8hzL)

6 "Too bad both sides can't lose"

Posted by: Don Rumsfeld at October 03, 2012 11:08 AM (rlba9)

My solution to the middle east:

1. Arm everyone

2. Step back

3. Profit.

Posted by: Jolly Roger at October 03, 2012 11:08 AM (t06LC)

8 Man, I sure hope Romney doesn't speak too early about this. That would be newsworthy.

Posted by: sugar land at October 03, 2012 11:08 AM (fPBAo)

9 1 Shit just got real!

Posted by: Honey Badger at October 03, 2012 11:09 AM (GvYeG)

10 What did Romney say this time?

Posted by: t-bird at October 03, 2012 11:09 AM (FcR7P)

11 Well, this certainly is ugly.

Posted by: Ann Althouse at October 03, 2012 11:09 AM (IoNBC)

Oh, GOOD.

How can Bammy possibly make this situation worse? Because you know he'll find a way.

Anyone want to take bets that Bammy will somehow use this event to cancel his appearance at the debate tonight? He'll have to stay at the White House to handle "pressing matters of state," even though we've got very little dog in this fight and no real sign that this is going to get bigger. But he'll do it anyway, and no one in the MFM will bother to mention that the murder of four Americans in Libya didn't prevent him from whooping it up in Vegas mere hours later, because that's Not News (tm).

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter [/b][/i][/u] at October 03, 2012 11:09 AM (4df7R)

13 Do the Turks still use Jannisaries? Cuz it'd be cool to see infantry with big feathered hats attack Syria.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 03, 2012 11:10 AM (QKKT0)

14 Is this a result of the chicken-choking ban?

Posted by: USA at October 03, 2012 11:10 AM (RIg+t)

15 We'd help you Turkey but well, remember when you wouldn't let us come through there into Iraq.....yeah, so...you're on your own sucker.

Posted by: Tami at October 03, 2012 11:10 AM (X6akg)

16 "Too bad both sides can't lose"

Posted by: Don Rumsfeld

Watch it bub.

Posted by: Henry Kissinger at October 03, 2012 11:10 AM (NF2Bf)

17 When the sh*t hits the fan like a big pizza pie

...that's amore

Posted by: Major _____ de Coverly at October 03, 2012 11:10 AM (Dll6b)

18 With any luck we are approaching 21st century war porn. Live broadcast satellite feed over the entire theater of combat for our entertainment and news. Kinda funny till you realize google could probably do it.

Posted by: Hopeless at October 03, 2012 11:10 AM (q7YYY)

19 It may not just be in response to that... It's come out that Syria executed the surviving members of a Turkish plane crew they shot down some time back, under Russian advice, then dumped the bodies into the water to be found.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 03, 2012 11:10 AM (e0xKF)

20 I hope this is the beginning of the end of the chinless opthamologist. And by that I mean hanging from a fucking meat hook.

Posted by: Captain Hate (more dagny and less curious) at October 03, 2012 11:11 AM (kyAiA)

21 Arabs should not fuck with Turks.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at October 03, 2012 11:11 AM (QupBk)

22 I don't believe Spring exists in the Arab world. There seems to be Fall, Winter, Summer and Murder.

Posted by: Dr Spank at October 03, 2012 11:11 AM (4cRnj)

23 It's a bitch when the Turkeys shoot back.

Posted by: Turkey Hunter at October 03, 2012 11:11 AM (8wH5z)

24 >>>US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said: "We are outraged that the Syrians have been shooting across their border... and regretful of the loss of life on the Turkish side." She added it was a "very dangerous" situation.

Smartest. woman. in. the. room.

Posted by: Fritz at October 03, 2012 11:11 AM (/ZZCn)

25 Maybe we can get Turkey to respond on our behalf in Libya.

Posted by: polynikes at October 03, 2012 11:11 AM (m2CN7)

26 I'll get to it. Now, watch this drive...

Posted by: PharaOh Obama at October 03, 2012 11:12 AM (FcR7P)

Seriously next time Turkey criticizes Israel for their response to Hamas , remind them of this.

Posted by: polynikes at October 03, 2012 11:12 AM (m2CN7)

28 I am deeply disappointed in this development. When I went to my first Turkish bathhouse in Chicago, I saw a place where men of all races could come together.

Posted by: Barry O'Bama at October 03, 2012 11:12 AM (vjyZP)

29 So it begins.

Posted by: LGoPs at October 03, 2012 11:12 AM (BJVEF)

30 17 "Too bad both sides can't lose" Posted by: Don Rumsfeld Watch it bub. --- They may both end up losing in the long-run. The Assad regime is hanging on by a thread. The Turks, OTOH, are reproducing below replacement levels while the Kurds are breeding like rabbits.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 03, 2012 11:12 AM (e0xKF)

I realize that it might make me a heartless cynical bastard, but part of me thinks we should be arming both sides in Syria.

Sort of like a back-burn for a forest fire? Give Israel a safe buffer on the Northeast.

Posted by: Captain Jason Nesmith at October 03, 2012 11:13 AM (O6q63)

32 I don't believe Spring exists in the Arab world. There seems to be Fall, Winter, Summer and Murder.

Every season is murder season in the Arab world.

Posted by: Armando at October 03, 2012 11:13 AM (5iuEW)

33 Come on Barry, be a man, it's time for some nation building.

Posted by: Hopeless at October 03, 2012 11:13 AM (q7YYY)

34 Let them kill each other.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 03, 2012 11:13 AM (j1gX1)

35

.... I didnt know Sandra Fluke was Kurdish?!?!

Posted by: fixerupper at October 03, 2012 11:13 AM (C8hzL)

36 Annnnnddd, they're offfff.

Posted by: Infidel at October 03, 2012 11:13 AM (O/fK8)

37 I eagerly await the State Dept press conference in which Hillary condemns the Internet video that inspired the shelling of Turkey.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 03, 2012 11:13 AM (SY2Kh)

38 It's because of that disgusting video.

Posted by: Barky McFucknut at October 03, 2012 11:14 AM (BVkEs)

39 t's come out that Syria executed the surviving members of a Turkish plane crew they shot down some time back, under Russian advice, then dumped the bodies into the water to be found. Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 03, 2012 03:10 PM (e0xKF) ________________ Didn't know that--thanks. Turkey and Syria have had issues or battles about water rights. Also I think the current Turkish regime did a wave of arrests of their high ranking military officers. Some 40 or so. Many of them Turkish Air Force. They may come to regret that.

Posted by: tasker at October 03, 2012 11:14 AM (r2PLg)

40 NATO response?

Posted by: NewEnglandDevil at October 03, 2012 11:14 AM (73P68)

41 Which YouTube video is to blame?

Posted by: USA at October 03, 2012 11:14 AM (RIg+t)

42 Great. Instead of buying popcorn futures, I bought physical, and guess where the warehouse is?

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at October 03, 2012 11:14 AM (qGu2j)

43 Excuse to avoid debate?

Posted by: NewEnglandDevil at October 03, 2012 11:14 AM (73P68)

44 42 Which YouTube video is to blame?

Posted by: USA at October 03, 2012 03:14 PM (RIg+t)

It was a turkey fryer video. They're so sensitive.

Posted by: Tami at October 03, 2012 11:14 AM (X6akg)

45 Great. Instead of buying popcorn futures, I bought physical, and guess where the warehouse is?

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at October 03, 2012 03:14 PM (qGu2j)

Detroit?

Posted by: Insomniac at October 03, 2012 11:15 AM (DrWcr)

46 Turkey should borrow some ObamaGuns from the Mexican cartels.

Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262© at October 03, 2012 11:15 AM (UU0OF)

47 Can they all lose?

The sad thing is the Turkish P.M. is doing more than TFG would do if Mexico did that shit.

Posted by: eleven at October 03, 2012 11:15 AM (KXm42)

48 NATO response?

-----

Im on call..... and my beeper hasnt gone off.

Posted by: King Putt at October 03, 2012 11:15 AM (C8hzL)

49 There was also major bombing in Aleppo today, over 40 killed.

Posted by: The Q at October 03, 2012 11:15 AM (B/yDO)

50 This good for business!

Posted by: Orville Redenbacher at October 03, 2012 11:15 AM (R18D0)

Uh... folks... you do know that Turkey is a part of NATO... and that an attack on a NATO member state automaticly gets US involved...

shit.....

Posted by: Romeo13 holding up his MAN Card at October 03, 2012 11:15 AM (lZBBB)

52 Are any of you buying this horseshit? That asshole Assad is barely hanging on to power within his own borders. The last thing he wants is to battle with Turkey, too. But we're to believe Assad is just indiscriminately lobbing bombs all over the place. Riiiiiight.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 03, 2012 11:15 AM (jUytm)

53 38 I eagerly await the State Dept press conference in which Hillary condemns the Internet video that inspired the shelling of Turkey.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 03, 2012 03:13 PM (SY2Kh)

The "filmmaker" is probably being water-boarded as we type.

Posted by: Craig Poe at October 03, 2012 11:16 AM (BVkEs)

54 Wonderful a new Ottoman Empire. Watch the House of Saud freak out.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 03, 2012 11:16 AM (UYZgt)

55 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable tyrant.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at October 03, 2012 11:16 AM (8y9MW)

56 The Turkish military is different--secular. We have an air base there--Incirlik,

Posted by: tasker at October 03, 2012 11:16 AM (r2PLg)

57 t's come out that Syria executed the surviving members of a Turkish plane crew they shot down some time back, under Russian advice, then dumped the bodies into the water to be found. Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 03, 2012 03:10 PM (e0xKF) ________________ Didn't know that--thanks. Turkey and Syria have had issues or battles about water rights. Also I think the current Turkish regime did a wave of arrests of their high ranking military officers. Some 40 or so. Many of them Turkish Air Force. They may come to regret that. Posted by: tasker at October 03, 2012 03:14 PM (r2PLg) By the way that is an 'Unconmfirmed" leak from the Syrian side that the turks executed their pilots. May be true, May not be true. But I would not bet then house on it just yet.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 03, 2012 11:16 AM (j1gX1)

58 Every season is murder season in the Arab world.

Oh to be in the land of murder and sand.

Murder and sand.

Posted by: eleven at October 03, 2012 11:16 AM (KXm42)

59 Oh, good. We needed a World War about now...

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at October 03, 2012 11:16 AM (8y9MW)

60 Syria was just exercising their freedom of expression.

Posted by: Dang© at October 03, 2012 11:16 AM (R18D0)

61 This is a drag......

Posted by: Barky McFucknut at October 03, 2012 11:16 AM (BVkEs)

62 Juan McCain has been found in the Senate cloakroom pounding his gavel furiously in anticipation of US intervention.

Posted by: Jaws at October 03, 2012 11:16 AM (4I3Uo)

63 My biggest hope in all this ME bullshit is that our troops get out alive. My second is that stuxnet aimed the Iranian missiles somewhere that is part of all this chaos.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at October 03, 2012 11:17 AM (8wH5z)

64 I didnt know Sandra Fluke was Kurdish?!?!

I wouldn't say that. For one thing, Fluke doesn't actually reproduce...

Posted by: Armando at October 03, 2012 11:17 AM (5iuEW)

65 Sort of like a back-burn for a forest fire? Give Israel a safe buffer on the Northeast.

Ideally the conflict would end with the last two combatants simultaneously impaling each other with the only two remaining weapons in the country- sharp sticks.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 03, 2012 11:17 AM (SY2Kh)

66 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: steevy at October 03, 2012 11:17 AM (6o4Fb)

67 By the way that is an 'Unconmfirmed" leak from the Syrian side that the turks executed their pilots. May be true, May not be true. But I would not bet then house on it just yet. Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 03, 2012 03:16 PM (j1gX1) _____________________ Okay thanks.

Posted by: tasker at October 03, 2012 11:17 AM (r2PLg)

68 I'm glad we reset the diplomacy thing

Posted by: Truman North at October 03, 2012 11:17 AM (I2LwF)

69 Well crappity. I'd just put China/Japan throwing nukes at each other over India finally going oh fuck you and annihilating Pakistan. Now it looks like Turkey and Syria are going to make a dark horse run at plunging us all into darkness. Yaaaaaay.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD the revelator at October 03, 2012 11:17 AM (VtjlW)

70 The Turkish military is different--secular. We have an air base there--Incirlik, Posted by: tasker at October 03, 2012 03:16 PM (r2PLg) The Turkish Military is becoming less and less secular every day. Hundreds of arrests will do that to ya

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 03, 2012 11:17 AM (j1gX1)

71 It's more than just water rights. There are hydrocarbons in that area, recently discovered. Lots and lots of them.

Posted by: Hopeless at October 03, 2012 11:17 AM (H1od7)

72 This is a result of that Anti Mouhammhud movie, right?

Posted by: nerdygirl at October 03, 2012 11:17 AM (ZCRQd)

73 Detroit?

Posted by: Insomniac at October 03, 2012 03:15 PM (DrWcr)

No, that's where the corn is grown - downtown in the fields.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at October 03, 2012 11:18 AM (qGu2j)

74 Don't forget to duck.

Posted by: Archduke Francis Ferdinand at October 03, 2012 11:18 AM (QKKT0)

75 Steevy I admire your commitment.

Posted by: eleven at October 03, 2012 11:18 AM (KXm42)

76 I'm sure, somehow, the MSM will blame this on Israel ...and Republicans.

Posted by: Honey Badger at October 03, 2012 11:18 AM (GvYeG)

77 "WHO YOU CALLIN' 'TURKEY', CHUMP!"

Posted by: The entire nation of Turkey in a pair of Sansabelt™ slacks at October 03, 2012 11:18 AM (R18D0)

78 Ah, the Oracle concerning Damascus....

Posted by: Craig Poe at October 03, 2012 11:18 AM (BVkEs)

79 Uh... folks... you do know that Turkey is a part of NATO... and that an attack on a NATO member state automatically gets US involved...

Obama's Truth Teams just tweeted "Meh" in response to that point.

Posted by: @PurpAv at October 03, 2012 11:18 AM (BFssc)

Arabs should not fuck with Turks.

This!

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at October 03, 2012 11:18 AM (R8hU8)

81 Next week we'll be told all about Assad's close relationship with Al Qaeda. Do they really believe people are so stupid not to see the common thread in all this violence in the Muslim world -- the Muslim Brotherhood?

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 03, 2012 11:19 AM (jUytm)

82 70 Well crappity. I'd just put China/Japan throwing nukes at each other over India finally going oh fuck you and annihilating Pakistan. Now it looks like Turkey and Syria are going to make a dark horse run at plunging us all into darkness. Yaaaaaay.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD the revelator at October 03, 2012 03:17 PM (VtjlW)

Smart money is still on Iran and Israel.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 03, 2012 11:19 AM (da5Wo)

83 Seriously next time Turkey criticizes Israel for their response to Hamas , remind them of this. Posted by: polynikes at October 03, 2012 03:12 PM (m2CN7) Do you think Turkey would care? Remind them of the Armenian mega-massacre if you want to get a rise out of them. You could even try to remind them of how the Ottomans kept the arab world in line when they controlled the place. They don't care. Logic doesn't go very far in the islamic world. Turkey is just itching to move back into the arab world and gain control of the new pan-islamic environment - the return of Ottoman control of the area. It's going to be Turkey battling with Egypt for control of the pan-islamic arab world in the coming decade. Ugly stuff all the way around. I only hope that Syria and Turkey beat the living shit out of each other, just like Iran and Iraq did, only more.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 03, 2012 11:19 AM (X3lox)

84 It's a bitch when the Turkeys shoot back. As God is my witness. . . .

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD the revelator at October 03, 2012 11:19 AM (VtjlW)

85 I wonder if this will get more coverage than the mortars Syria launched into Israel? Actually, it already has.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 03, 2012 11:19 AM (2EOKC)

86 Arabs should not fuck with Turks. This! Posted by: Velvet Ambition at October 03, 2012 03:18 PM (R8hU

Arab's can fuck with Turks. All they have to do is turn around and drop tray

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 03, 2012 11:20 AM (j1gX1)

"I truly believe that the day IÂ’m inaugurated, not only does the country look at itself differently, but the world looks at America differently. If IÂ’m reaching out to the Muslim world, they understand that IÂ’ve lived in a Muslim country, and I may be a Christian, but I also understand their point of viewÂ…

My sister is half-Indonesian. I traveled there all the way through my college years. And so IÂ’m intimately concerned with what happens in these countries, and the cultures and the perspectives that these folks have. And those are powerful tools for us to be able to reach out to the world."

~ Barack Hussein Obama, November 2007

Maybe the powerful magic sister tool only worked on the day he was inaugurated? He hasn't mentioned her since then. The world certainly is looking at America differently now, so he's got that.

Notice that the center of his foreign policy hasn't changed since 2007. It all revolves around a single word as small as you can find: I.

Posted by: Starboardhelm at October 03, 2012 11:20 AM (hHgxI)

88 Has the MFM blamed this on Romney, the video or both?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 03, 2012 11:20 AM (1Jaio)

89 Syria is doing its damnedest to expand the war. The need an excuse to use WMD on their own people.

Posted by: HtP at October 03, 2012 11:20 AM (jx2j9)

90 Turkey? Never heard of it.

Posted by: Joe Biden at October 03, 2012 11:20 AM (W2qJe)

91 53 You are correct Romeo but with mega-douche in the White House who the hell knows what's what anymore.

Posted by: wierd flunky at October 03, 2012 11:20 AM (X+nFp)

92 That asshole Assad is barely hanging on to power within his own borders. The last thing he wants is to battle with Turkey, too.

But we're to believe Assad is just indiscriminately lobbing bombs all over the place. Riiiiiight.

I believe it. Arab military forces aren't known for disciplined precision and tactics.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 03, 2012 11:20 AM (SY2Kh)

93 The South Park creators should be jailed for this.

Posted by: Craig Poe at October 03, 2012 11:21 AM (BVkEs)

94 Syria is just protesting over "Turkish Star Wars".

Posted by: Darth Randall at October 03, 2012 11:21 AM (mV8sg)

95 Syria is doing its damnedest to expand the war. The need an excuse to use WMD on their own people. Posted by: HtP at October 03, 2012 03:20 PM (jx2j9) Or ISrael

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 03, 2012 11:21 AM (j1gX1)

96 I don't believe Spring exists in the Arab world. ~~There seems to be Fall, Winter, Summer and Murder.~~ Posted by: Dr Spank at October 03, 2012 03:11 PM (4cRnj) More like Murder, Murder, Pedophilia, and Murder

Posted by: يجري اللواط الجه at October 03, 2012 11:21 AM (XvHmy)

97 This is an incredible overreaction on the part of the Israeli government and military. As usual, a simple expression of nationalism and the honest desire for freedom and self determination on the part of the Palestinians has been crushed under the boot of the Imperialistic Israeli junta.

What?

Turkey?

Syria?

Oh, never mind.

Posted by: Pretty much everyone on the left at October 03, 2012 11:21 AM (2b4yb)

98 Turkey should call on their friends in Gaza for aid in Syria. Israel should sit on the sides and watch the fireworks.

Posted by: Dick Nixon at October 03, 2012 11:21 AM (VrVBw)

99 Never fear! Obama and Hillary are in charge...

Whoa , that scared me just writing it

Posted by: Hello, it's just me Donna at October 03, 2012 11:21 AM (9+ccr)

100 I feel fine. I think I'll go for a walk.

Posted by: The Sick Man of Europe at October 03, 2012 11:22 AM (QKKT0)

101 "I am so angry I'm about to buttfuck!"

Posted by: The entire nation of Turkey in a pair of Sansabelt™ slacks at October 03, 2012 11:22 AM (R18D0)

102

Turkey is asking for an emergency NATO meeting.

Looks like another 3 a.m. call for President Participation Trophy.

Posted by: rockmom at October 03, 2012 11:22 AM (aBlZ1)

103 First debate question? Rules be damned?

Posted by: Craig Poe at October 03, 2012 11:22 AM (BVkEs)

104

" and I may be a Christian, "

.....and you may not be one as well....

Posted by: Cicero Kid at October 03, 2012 11:23 AM (IOuIz)

105 Way OT but can someone explain this to me? Even Ed Freaking Morrissey buys into the idea that Clinton's argument for Obama at the DNC was plausible. Why? Why does this not immediately elicit laughter? So, after being the most powerful man in the entire world for four years, we are worse off than four years ago. Even after his party had full control of Congress and the White House for two years, and full control of Congress for SIX. We are worse off, worse than Obama himself predicted if we didn't follow his stimulus plan, which we in fact did. And Clinton's great argument is "No one could have done better! So re-elect him." Four years of abject failure, by Obama's own standards, and one rational response is "Yeah, we want more of this... because no one could possibly have done better." This is stupid on seventeen-story stilts. If your contractor worked on your house for four years, left holes in the roof and toilets overflowing, and he said "No one could have done a better job," would you employ him for another four years? I guess you would if you were a Democrat. That Morrissey even thinks anyone could reasonably trust this contractor says something bad about Ed Morrissey.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows poor people don't know how to dress themselves at October 03, 2012 11:23 AM (AZGON)

106 97 I don't believe Spring exists in the Arab world. There seems to be Fall, Winter, Summer and Murder. Posted by: Dr Spank at October 03, 2012 03:11 PM (4cRnj) More like Murder, Murder, Pedophilia, and Murder --- You said murder three times.

Posted by: Hedley Lamarr at October 03, 2012 11:23 AM (e0xKF)

107 Considering how NATO got sucked into ISAF. NATO just may get sucked into attacking Syria to defend Turkey. Where NATO goes, so goes the US.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 03, 2012 11:23 AM (UYZgt)

108
((snip))

... fuckit. Im pulling my own pug. Dipshits on his own now.

Posted by: The 3:00 AM Emergency Phone at October 03, 2012 11:23 AM (C8hzL)

109

Panetta: We've Lost Track of Some of Syria's Chemical Weapons.

Comrade Chavez says thank you by the way.

Posted by: Che in Venezula at October 03, 2012 11:23 AM (W2qJe)

110 Incirlik is only like 50 or 60 miles from the Syrian border...

...if you were kinda pissed off, you could probably hot reload and get about 6 or 7 missions between fillups ups.

Posted by: @PurpAv at October 03, 2012 11:24 AM (BFssc)

111 Up until recently Assad seemed perfectly content with his own Syria and the occasional molesting of Lebanon. But now Assad seems to be doing everything he can to give the international community a reason to get rid of him. Strange.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 03, 2012 11:24 AM (jUytm)

112 "Nice dressing, baby. Looks like you could use a good stuffing."

Posted by: The entire nation of Turkey in a pair of Sansabelt™ slacks at October 03, 2012 11:24 AM (R18D0)

113 FORE!

Posted by: Barky O'dipshit at October 03, 2012 11:24 AM (DGIjM)

114 if russia attacked turkey from the rear, would greece help? thank you

Posted by: phoenixgirl, what did huma abedin know at October 03, 2012 11:24 AM (j1z2L)

115 Off, Galaxy Quest sock.

Posted by: Tim Allen at October 03, 2012 11:24 AM (O6q63)

116 Be a lamb and take the phone off the hook, Reggie.

Posted by: Barky McFucknut at October 03, 2012 11:24 AM (BVkEs)

117

Do they really believe people are so stupid not to see the common thread in all this violence in the Muslim world -- the Muslim Brotherhood?

Don't forget about me!

Posted by: Islam at October 03, 2012 11:24 AM (NF2Bf)

118

Uh.... why is Panetta the de facto INTELLIGENCE spokeman for the admin...

Don't we have some guy over at CIA? oh.... wait... thats right... we put a Spy in charge of the Pentagon, and a General in charge of the CIA.... and then wonder why things are F'd up?

Posted by: Romeo13 holding up his MAN Card at October 03, 2012 11:25 AM (lZBBB)

119

Panetta: We've Lost Track of Some of Syria's Chemical Weapons.

I'm sure they'll turn up at some point.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at October 03, 2012 11:25 AM (qGu2j)

120
Panetta: We've Lost Track of Some of Syria's Chemical Weapons.

---

hmmmmm..... I wonder.....where the hell did THOSE come from......

Posted by: fixerupper at October 03, 2012 11:25 AM (C8hzL)

121 Barry:

Sorry I have to talk to NATO tonight...can we reschedule this debate please?

Posted by: H Badger at October 03, 2012 11:25 AM (n/0Nw)

122 NATO just may get sucked into attacking Syria to defend Turkey. Where NATO goes, so goes the US. Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 03, 2012 03:23 PM (UYZgt) I doubt it. NATO is a sick and dying dog. And nobody really trusts Turkey anyway, especially the EU, which you notice wants no part of Turkey

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 03, 2012 11:25 AM (j1gX1)

123 OT/ gas prices in my neck of the woods went up 40 cents overnight.

Posted by: Hello, it's just me Donna at October 03, 2012 11:26 AM (9+ccr)

124 I have all the confidence in the world that Panetta, Buhrock and Hillary know exactly what they are doing and what is going on./SARCASM

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, unbanned, ready to get this done at October 03, 2012 11:26 AM (baL2B)

125

More like Murder, Murder, Pedophilia, and Murder

I love murder! I'll have the Murder, Murder, Murder, Murder, Bakes Beans, Spam & Murder!

Posted by: fluffy Python at October 03, 2012 11:26 AM (O6q63)

126 41 NATO response?

Posted by: NewEnglandDevil at October 03, 2012 03:14 PM (73P6

Does this even fall under the treaty?

Posted by: joncelli at October 03, 2012 11:26 AM (RD7QR)

127 Or ISrael

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 03, 2012 03:21 PM (j1gX1)

They'd love to get the hezbo's involved in Israel.

Posted by: HtP at October 03, 2012 11:26 AM (jx2j9)

128

53 Uh... folks... you do know that Turkey is a part of NATO...

The question is, does Turkey know it is a part of NATO? Probably they remember pretty good when the shit hits the fan.

Just asking - did Turkey respond to 9-11 like Germany did - by sending several AWACs over to augment our air defenses? I still remember an interview with a German officer who said words to the effect "We always assumed America would come to help us, but I never thought we would be going to help them. I guess it has to work both ways."

I hope that Kraut has gotten lots of promotions.

Posted by: sherlock at October 03, 2012 11:26 AM (U+goV)

129 Syria is chock full of those 'non-existent' Iraqi WMD's.

Posted by: Craig Poe at October 03, 2012 11:26 AM (BVkEs)

130 You said murder three times.

But he only said pedophelia once.

Posted by: eleven at October 03, 2012 11:27 AM (KXm42)

131 Iran is supporting the Assad regime. Turkey is supporting the rebels because it does not want to become an Iranian satellite. Last December, Syria placed a bunch of SCUD missiles on the border. Turkish officials were providing aid to the Syrian rebels from Gaziantep close to the Syrian border. It is also not that far from Akcakale. Assad forces fired into Turkey at Akcakale. SCUDs are shit. They were probably hoping for Gaziantep. And that is why Turkey retaliated. Turkey has a tiger my the tale. The Turkish Army does not like the Iranians, but the Turkish government and people are becoming more Islamist. The Turks are really fighting Iran's surrogates here. Keep that in mind

Posted by: thunderb a conservative jew at October 03, 2012 11:27 AM (Dnbau)

132 Well crappity. I'd just put China/Japan throwing nukes at each other over India finally going oh fuck you and annihilating Pakistan. Now it looks like Turkey and Syria are going to make a dark horse run at plunging us all into darkness. Yaaaaaay. Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD the revelator at October 03, 2012 03:17 PM (VtjlW) 2012 bitches! Did we call that or what?

Posted by: Ancient Mayans at October 03, 2012 11:27 AM (XvHmy)

133

I hope someone remembers to change president training pants' diaper before the debate.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at October 03, 2012 11:27 AM (qGu2j)

134 124 OT/ gas prices in my neck of the woods went up 40 cents overnight.

GM's giving big discounts now on SplodyVolts.

Posted by: @PurpAv at October 03, 2012 11:27 AM (BFssc)

135 Turkey is asking for an emergency NATO meeting. Looks like another 3 a.m. call for President Participation Trophy. Posted by: rockmom at October 03, 2012 03:22 PM (aBlZ1) Barky will take this one. He's been dying for a way to take the US into Syria and insure that the pan-islamists take control, there. Barky won't rest until the pan-islamists have taken the whole of the arab world because that is the most dangerous situation possible.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 03, 2012 11:27 AM (X3lox)

136 130 Syria is chock full of those 'non-existent' Iraqi WMD's.

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my point exactly

Posted by: fixerupper at October 03, 2012 11:28 AM (C8hzL)

137 Does this even fall under the treaty?

Maybe. That whole area is so f'd up, it's sometimes hard to tell. Syria is calling this retaliation. Turkey, of course, will call it aggression. It will probably depend on what the NATO leaders decide.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at October 03, 2012 11:28 AM (8y9MW)

138

Panetta: We've Lost Track of Some of Syria's Chemical Weapons.

I hate it when that happens.

Posted by: George Bush at October 03, 2012 11:28 AM (IOuIz)

139 Nevergiveup. That may be true. But reality has a way of re-arranging things certain people know are true.

Lets see tonight at Tinseltown is E.T. Do I really want to see a baby Drew Barrymore? Well at least her IQ back then matched her age.

Or wait until Thursday to go see Sir David Lean's Lawrence of Arabia at Tinseltown? T.E. Lawrence played by Peter O'Toole and is not an E.T. puppet.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 03, 2012 11:28 AM (UYZgt)

140 Do you know why muzzies don't fuck with turkeys? Cause they have spurs.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at October 03, 2012 11:28 AM (8wH5z)

141

This only means that SCOAMF will be upset about having to attend those pesky security briefings again.

Posted by: HtP at October 03, 2012 11:28 AM (jx2j9)

142 135 124
OT/ gas prices in my neck of the woods went up 40 cents overnight.

GM's giving big discounts now on SplodyVolts.

Posted by: @PurpAv at October 03, 2012 03:27 PM (BFssc)

Even if we could afford one, my Husbands been unemployed since Mar., I wouldn't want one..

Posted by: Hello, it's just me Donna at October 03, 2012 11:28 AM (9+ccr)

143

The Turkish military WAS secular until Erdogan's officer purge.

Click URL

This thing is going to get out of hand...

Posted by: Beagle at October 03, 2012 11:28 AM (sOtz/)

144 Exactly what "targets" did the Turks hit inside Syria? Anyone know?

Posted by: Drider at October 03, 2012 11:29 AM (HaJD9)

145 Fuckin Mayans. Who knew?

Posted by: © Sponge at October 03, 2012 11:29 AM (UK9cE)

146 Speaking of gas prices...

http://proteinwisdom.com/?p=44053

Posted by: @PurpAv at October 03, 2012 11:29 AM (BFssc)

147 It's going to be Turkey battling with Egypt for control of the pan-islamic arab world in the coming decade. Ugly stuff all the way around. Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 03, 2012 03:19 PM (X3lox) Israel might gain some regional stability as a useful buffer state

Posted by: The Political Hat at October 03, 2012 11:29 AM (XvHmy)

148

hmmmmm..... I wonder.....where the hell did THOSE come from......

Give Panetta a swirlie until he says it out loud, in full, declarative sentences.

Posted by: fluffy at October 03, 2012 11:29 AM (O6q63)

149 Oh, goodie. Turkey's a NATO member.

Posted by: AmishDude at October 03, 2012 11:30 AM (T0NGe)

150 I know that Finding Nemo 3D is just a retread trying to suck more money out of a gullible public but this reaction to a movie seems a little over the top-.

Posted by: WalrusRex at October 03, 2012 11:30 AM (XUKZU)

151

OK.... WAIT A SEC!!!

You mean CIA does not know where the WMDs are.... deja vu all over again???

Posted by: George Bush /facepalm at October 03, 2012 11:30 AM (lZBBB)

152 Fuckin Mayans. Who knew?

The Mayans?

Posted by: eleven at October 03, 2012 11:30 AM (KXm42)

153 especially the EU, which you notice wants no part of Turkey Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 03, 2012 03:25 PM (j1gX1) The EU are the ones who fucked Turkey up this time and helped bring the islamists to power, just because they wanted to play games with Turkey and tease them. Typical Eurotrash stupidity.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 03, 2012 11:30 AM (X3lox)

154 The Mayans?

Posted by: eleven at October 03, 2012 03:30 PM (KXm42)

Invented Mayanaise.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 03, 2012 11:31 AM (v+QvA)

155 Syria is calling this retaliation. Turkey, of course, will call it aggression.
Posted by: AllenG

It all looks like islam to me.

Posted by: Dang© at October 03, 2012 11:31 AM (R18D0)

156 Obama spox says that we need to keep our focus on abortion and massive quantities of free birth control for those freaky Georgetown coeds.

Posted by: HtP at October 03, 2012 11:31 AM (jx2j9)

157 149 hmmmmm..... I wonder.....where the hell did THOSE come from......

Give Panetta a swirlie until he says it out loud, in full, declarative sentences.

Posted by: fluffy at October 03, 2012 03:29 PM (O6q63)

We all had a pretty good idea where those WMD from Iraq went. Trouble is the media wanted to ignore all the info. and run with "There were no WMD!" "Bush lied." Unfortunately it was very effective.

Posted by: Hello, it's just me Donna at October 03, 2012 11:31 AM (9+ccr)

158 Also I think the current Turkish regime did a wave of arrests of their high ranking military officers. Some 40 or so. Many of them Turkish Air Force. They may come to regret that. I believe Turkish Army. They arrested everyone who was promoted for treason. Turkish governments for decades have operated under the thumb of their secular Army. Now the operate under the increasingly Islamist security service, like state police plus CIA.

Posted by: thunderb a conservative jew at October 03, 2012 11:31 AM (Dnbau)

159

Also, see Erdogan admitting Sunni-Shia war like "Karbala" underway in Syria.

Click URL

Posted by: Beagle at October 03, 2012 11:31 AM (sOtz/)

160 Another day of muzzies killing muzzies in the ME paradise. I could get used to this.

Posted by: Soona at October 03, 2012 11:32 AM (GkhJB)

161

Does this even fall under the treaty?

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I hope they have an if-you-go-completely-batshit escape clause.

Posted by: WalrusRex at October 03, 2012 11:32 AM (XUKZU)

162 The Mayans?
Posted by: eleven at October 03, 2012 03:30 PM (KXm42)

Forget it. He's rolling.

Posted by: Boon at October 03, 2012 11:32 AM (QKKT0)

163 Israel might gain some regional stability as a useful buffer state Posted by: The Political Hat at October 03, 2012 03:29 PM (XvHmy) No. A pan-islamic arab world offers no stability for anyone. As bad as the pan-arabists were/are, they are nothing compared to the pan-islamists. And Barky and the Euroscum want Israel taken out, anyway.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 03, 2012 11:32 AM (X3lox)

164 Althouse and Reynolds are having a shit fight right on the Instapundit blog. Classic

Posted by: Truman North, iPhone homey at October 03, 2012 11:33 AM (I2LwF)

165 NATO to meet on the Turkey/Syria kerfluffle.

Posted by: HtP at October 03, 2012 11:33 AM (jx2j9)

166 Uh.... can we drill here NOW?

Posted by: Romeo13 asking the REAL question at October 03, 2012 11:33 AM (lZBBB)

167 Even if we could afford one...I wouldn't want one.

Well, SCOTUS green lighted attitude adjustments for that kind of anti-revolutionary talk in the future. You'll be forced to buy one even if you can't afford it, and you'll be imprisoned if you bitch about it and insult the car.

Posted by: @PurpAv at October 03, 2012 11:33 AM (BFssc)

168 Look, we can either give all of the chicks $18,000 for birth control or we can hire someone to answer those 3:00 A.M. phone calls. Not both.

Posted by: WalrusRex at October 03, 2012 11:34 AM (XUKZU)

169 But how does Turkey at war affect this? http://bit.ly/SldoYj

Posted by: George Orwell what knows poor people don't know how to dress themselves at October 03, 2012 11:34 AM (AZGON)

170 Saladin only took on Baldwin IV after he had consolidated the caliphates. So a pan-Islamic confederation is bad news for Israel. Syria and Egypt tried to merge themselves into a country in the 60s, this time it might work once that bump in the road Israel is removed.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 03, 2012 11:34 AM (UYZgt)

171 Compare and contrast: Turkey's response to Syria after Syria shells turkish territory and kills turkish citizens. South Korea and the United States response to NORK shelling of ROK territory that also resulted in the deaths of ROK citizens. Turkey, leading the world in how to deal with assholes...

Posted by: blindside at October 03, 2012 11:35 AM (x7g7t)

172 Way OT but can someone explain this to me?

Even Ed Freaking Morrissey buys into the idea that Clinton's argument for Obama at the DNC was plausible. Why? Why does this not immediately elicit laughter?

It's just more of Poppin's "in fairness" namby pamby twatty bullshit. Is there any wonder why there's been a trollfest there today?

Posted by: Captain Hate (more dagny and less curious) at October 03, 2012 11:35 AM (kyAiA)

173 Invented Mayanaise.>>

No the Cherokee invented that during the great plains crab hunts.

Posted by: Faukahantus at October 03, 2012 11:35 AM (8wH5z)

174 The Turkish military WAS secular until Erdogan's officer purge. Posted by: Beagle at October 03, 2012 03:28 PM (sOtz/) The secular Turkish military was the supreme power in Turkey until the EU forced them to change their Constitution and take that power away from the secular military in order to be considered for EU membership (which the EU never intended to extend to Turkey, anyway). That was 2003. Then Turkey started its current islamist spiral to hell.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 03, 2012 11:35 AM (X3lox)

175 http://tinyurl.com/8tcaq5b

"A government official says three suicide bombers detonated their explosives near an officers' club in the Syrian city of Aleppo, trapping several bystanders under rubble. Another blast went off nearby, close to the Chamber of Commerce."

Probably not a good day to start that tourism campaign.

Posted by: Achmed's Camel Tours at October 03, 2012 11:35 AM (0It32)

176 2 I realize that it might make me a heartless cynical bastard, but part of me thinks we should be arming both sides in Syria. Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 03, 2012 03:07 PM (SY2Kh) How'd that work for us in Afghanistan. Or Iraq. Better to just take off and nuke it from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.

Posted by: blindside at October 03, 2012 11:35 AM (x7g7t)

177 Im ~~pulling~~ eating my own pug.

FTFM

Posted by: Barack Obama at October 03, 2012 11:35 AM (5iuEW)

178 especially the EU, which you notice wants no part of Turkey Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 03, 2012 03:25 PM (j1gX1) The EU are the ones who fucked Turkey up this time and helped bring the islamists to power, just because they wanted to play games with Turkey and tease them. Typical Eurotrash stupidity. here's an idea. FUCK the EU. Turkey's economy is doing better than all of them.

Posted by: thunderb a conservative jew at October 03, 2012 11:36 AM (Dnbau)

179

@159 thunderb

331 I linked at 144 and in URL below

Could be propaganda text, just there for the fact Erdogan purged the secular Kemalists in droves.

Posted by: Beagle at October 03, 2012 11:36 AM (sOtz/)

180 This shit is what happens when the teacher is out of the room, when the Boss is on vacation, and the Coach is not at Practice. IN this case it's the United States that has given up leadership of the Free World. We're fucked

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 03, 2012 11:36 AM (j1gX1)

181 Daddy, what was it like when adults were in charge of U.S. foreign policy?

Posted by: Kid born after 2008 at October 03, 2012 11:38 AM (TOk1P)

182 The Turkish military WAS secular until Erdogan's officer purge. Posted by: Beagle at October 03, 2012 03:28 PM (sOtz/) The secular Turkish military was the supreme power in Turkey until the EU forced them to change their Constitution and take that power away from the secular military in order to be considered for EU membership (which the EU never intended to extend to Turkey, anyway). That was 2003. Then Turkey started its current islamist spiral to hell. Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 03, 2012 03:35 PM (X3lox) Turkey was Israel's best ally in the region until then. Remember Turks are not Arabs. Most Arabs do not like the Turks, Ottoman rule and all

Posted by: thunderb a conservative jew at October 03, 2012 11:39 AM (Dnbau)

183 OT

Remember when Ben said that a far more interesting Obama video was going to surface today?

Link to the DC in the nick

Posted by: The Q at October 03, 2012 11:39 AM (B/yDO)

184 183 Daddy, what was it like when adults were in charge of U.S. foreign policy?

Posted by: Kid born after 2008 at October 03, 2012 03:38 PM (TOk1P)

Shut up and eat your tree bark.

Posted by: joncelli at October 03, 2012 11:39 AM (RD7QR)

185

@176 PrimordialOrderedPair

I blogged about the stupid Euros back when they were attacking the Kemalist secular officer corps long before the purges. It's like they never cracked a book on Turkey, or Wikipedia'd it.

Posted by: Beagle at October 03, 2012 11:39 AM (sOtz/)

186 Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 03, 2012 03:34 PM (UYZgt)

The UAR (United Arab Republic) lasted just a few years, but Egypt kept calling itself that for a long time.

Weird.

And I agree that a pan-Arab/Islamist state or confederation or whatever may evolve is a monumentally bad thing for the world, but especially Israel.

Imagine all of that oil being used aggressively on the world markets every time a Christian farts within 100 yards of a mosque. And if they arm themselves, which of course they will, it will be constant war.

Posted by: Pretty much everyone on the left at October 03, 2012 11:40 AM (2b4yb)

187 Oh, hell.

Out, damned sock!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 03, 2012 11:40 AM (2b4yb)

188 183 Daddy, what was it like when adults were in charge of U.S. foreign policy?

Posted by: Kid born after 2008 at October 03, 2012 03:38 PM (TOk1P)

Well... once upon a time we had this guy named Nixon....

Posted by: GrandPa the Viet Vet. at October 03, 2012 11:40 AM (lZBBB)

189 Damn. Can we airdrop some weapons and video cameras into the area?

It's like two hobos fightin' over a half-bottle of Ripple! Turn it up!

Posted by: Dang© at October 03, 2012 11:40 AM (R18D0)

190 Are our embassies safe?

Posted by: Craig Poe at October 03, 2012 11:40 AM (BVkEs)

191 <Panetta: We've Lost Track of Some of Syria's Chemical Weapons.>

and it's not my day to keep up with them.

Posted by: Henry in Des Moines at October 03, 2012 11:40 AM (EuW9O)

192 That Cutter cunt from the obama campaign is on FOX. Watch her lie

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 03, 2012 11:40 AM (j1gX1)

193

Panetta: We've Lost Track of Some of Syria's Chemical Weapons.

And nothing should make us feel more secure than the names that make all tremble at their mention:

Obama, Biden and Janet Napolitano.

Feel that? That's the comfort of security.

Posted by: HtP at October 03, 2012 11:41 AM (jx2j9)

194 I mean, not a gamechanger by any means, but more confirmation of what we already know about Obama

Posted by: The Q at October 03, 2012 11:41 AM (B/yDO)

195 A senior State Department official met this week with a Lebanese politician closely allied to Hezbollah, despite the fact that stigmatizing and isolating such groups is part of what designating Â“foreign terrorist organizationsÂ” (FTOs) is intended to achieve. Undersecretary for Political Affairs Wendy Sherman met in Washington Monday with Lebanese Energy Minister Gebran Bassil, State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland confirmed Tuesday. Bassil belongs to the Free Patriotic Movement (FPM), a member of the March 8 alliance which includes Hezbollah Â– a designated FTO Â– and which controls a majority in the Lebanese cabinet.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 03, 2012 11:42 AM (j1gX1)

196 Turkey also has no oil. The get theirs from Iraq, which is in the part of Iraq controlled by the kurds. And you know how much the turks and kurds love each other. Who is Iraq siding with in the Syrian civil war?

Posted by: thunderb a conservative jew at October 03, 2012 11:42 AM (Dnbau)

197 Helluva time to have a petulant child as president.

Posted by: davidinvirginia at October 03, 2012 11:42 AM (qEkGZ)

198 Just a quarrel among friends,they'll still be in the Caliphate together.

Posted by: steevy at October 03, 2012 11:43 AM (6o4Fb)

199 195That Cutter cunt from the obama campaign is on FOX. Watch her lie

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 03, 2012 03:40 PM (j1gX1)

She has become a verb among dems: Scuttered - as when she lies about everything

Posted by: HtP at October 03, 2012 11:43 AM (jx2j9)

200 Bumps in the road. I got this.

Posted by: BHO Blackcent at October 03, 2012 11:43 AM (wIgpo)

201 @JimPethokoukis: Obama Intrade contract now in full retreat, down 5% today to 70%

Posted by: Evilpens at October 03, 2012 11:43 AM (ck76k)

202 "I cannot tell you how important it was to the peace of the world that the President of the United States, whether it was President Eisenhower or President Kennedy, or now President Johnson, be believed when they say to the other side: 'Gentlemen, this you must not do.' Because, if we ever get to a point where that simple statement is not believed, then I don't know where the future and safety of this country is, or that the possibilities of general peace would exist." - Secretary of State Dean Rusk in testimony before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, February 18, 1966

Thanks to Obama we are now in those perilous times Dean Rusk feared.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 03, 2012 11:43 AM (UYZgt)

203 BUT . BUT.. BUT... HalFrican says he is "Experienced" in foreign policy & Mitt & Paul are NOT

Posted by: Evilpens at October 03, 2012 11:44 AM (ck76k)

204 I am telling you Arabs do not like Turks. This isn't gonna be one big happy family. This is about if Iran rolls through the ME like Hitler through Europe.

Posted by: thunderb a conservative jew at October 03, 2012 11:44 AM (Dnbau)

205 I wish they would put Scutter out every day. What a slimy bitch.

Posted by: HtP at October 03, 2012 11:44 AM (jx2j9)

206 Chemical weapons un accounted for? You mean like the ones from Iraq after Iraqi Freedom concluded and massive conveys were heading to Syria with unknown cargo ???? God Damn Romeny needs to keep his fricken mouth shut !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Fart Tube Jones at October 03, 2012 11:45 AM (48wze)

207

186 -

They get tree bark? All we get served is vegan suet.

Posted by: Chicago Elementary Students at October 03, 2012 11:45 AM (TOk1P)

208 I've got a boner. Not sure if it is from the Sexcast or this attack on Syria by Turkey. Is this wrong?

Posted by: Ammo Dump at October 03, 2012 11:45 AM (YYyqq)

209 Maybe the Turkey is going to take the heat off me for a bit.

Posted by: The Chicken at October 03, 2012 11:45 AM (l3vZN)

210 Do I need to say it? [clears throat]

Posted by: Admiral Josh Painter at October 03, 2012 11:45 AM (BAS5M)

211 Turkey also has no oil. The get theirs from Iraq, which is in the part of Iraq controlled by the kurds. And you know how much the turks and kurds love each other. Who is Iraq siding with in the Syrian civil war?

Posted by: thunderb a conservative jew at October 03, 2012 03:42 PM (Dnbau)

I don't know who Iraq is backing, but the Turks have to be aware that the Kurds are going to end up owning Turkey one day just from the function of demographics (Kurds have *much* higher birth rate than Turks do)...well, unless the Turks decide to wipe out a goodly chunk of their Kurdish population. It's not like it hasn't been done by them before. That's another factor that makes this even more of a clusterf*ck than it would be on its own.

Posted by: davidinvirginia at October 03, 2012 11:46 AM (qEkGZ)

212 Maybe Israel and Turkey become foxhole buddies again, cause I do not see NATO protecting Turkey

Posted by: thunderb a conservative jew at October 03, 2012 11:46 AM (Dnbau)

213 Bassil belongs to the Free Patriotic Movement (FPM), a member of the March 8 alliance which includes Hezbollah Â– a designated FTO Â– and which controls a majority in the Lebanese cabinet.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 03, 2012 03:42 PM (j1gX1)

Damn

Posted by: HtP at October 03, 2012 11:46 AM (jx2j9)

214 This is about if Iran rolls through the ME like Hitler through Europe. Posted by: thunderb a conservative jew at October 03, 2012 03:44 PM (Dnbau) Before Iran got even half way thru Iraq Israel would eliminate that threat one way or another. If there still is an Israel

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 03, 2012 11:46 AM (j1gX1)

215

Damn. Can we airdrop some weapons and video cameras into the area?

It's like two hobos fightin' over a half-bottle of Ripple! Turn it up!

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New reality series, So You Think You Can Commit Atrocities.

Posted by: WalrusRex at October 03, 2012 11:47 AM (XUKZU)

216

Never, ever piss off a turkey.

Posted by: Farmer One-nut at October 03, 2012 11:47 AM (wAQA5)

217 Why did Constantinople get the works?
That's nobody's business but the Turks'.

Now it's Istanbul
Not Constantinople...

Posted by: They Might Be Giant's at October 03, 2012 11:47 AM (ay6+/)

218 An odd thing about this is that the same number of dead occurred as the US embassy attack and our Presidents response was blaming a video and not lobbing shells. Oh how nice it would be to have our leaders balls not locked in his wife's purse (well maybe there in Lenin's tomb same diff though).

Posted by: Buzzsaw at October 03, 2012 11:48 AM (8wH5z)

219 I blogged about the stupid Euros back when they were attackingthe Kemalist secular officer corps long before the purges.It's like they never cracked a book on Turkey, or Wikipedia'd it. Posted by: Beagle at October 03, 2012 03:39 PM (sOtz/) Yep. I've been talking about this for years, too. It always came up because the idiots who tried to defend the possibility of islamic societies forming decent nations would always bring Turkey up and I would have to point out to them WHY Turkey had worked and then why it had been broken and would descend back to its natural islamic state, as Ataturk had tried so hard to work against.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 03, 2012 11:48 AM (X3lox)

220 unless the Turks decide to wipe out a goodly chunk of their Kurdish population not gonna happen, at least not now. Kurds basically have their own nation state in northern Iraq, with some pretty rugged mountains between them and Turkey. Now if Turkey invades Iraq for the oil....buckle up.

Posted by: thunderb a conservative jew at October 03, 2012 11:48 AM (Dnbau)

221 Posted by: They Might Be Giant's

ahem

Posted by: The Four Lads at October 03, 2012 11:48 AM (POGCP)

222 Wonder if the Jericho 2's are ready to fly?

Posted by: Dick Nixon at October 03, 2012 11:49 AM (VrVBw)

223 So if I turn on my paranoia switch, it would seem that Turkey has been the designated outside combatant in this civil war. Now who exactly mortared the Turks. Couldn't have been the actual rebels, looking to point the finger at the Syria Govt., could it? or planned by some other enemy of Assad? Seems like some pawns are being moved around.

/paranoia switch off

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 03, 2012 11:50 AM (PHb2k)

224 I would pay good money to see some punch Pooch Smith.

Posted by: HtP at October 03, 2012 11:50 AM (jx2j9)

225 I learned it from watching you, dad!

Posted by: Dr. Varno at October 03, 2012 11:50 AM (76+B6)

226 The Balkans are going to be upset that they don't get to set off the next world conflagaration.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - aware that the USA has President "I like to watch." at October 03, 2012 11:51 AM (hLRSq)

227 Turkey also has no oil. Posted by: thunderb a conservative jew at October 03, 2012 03:42 PM (Dnbau) Turkey has water. Seriously. And the middle east needs water more than it needs oil (since the arabs don't make anything or need energy to power their savage lives). But they must have water.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 03, 2012 11:51 AM (X3lox)

228

When I was in Turkey in the early 80s they really respected us. I remember people on trains coming up and saying, "Al Haig...Strong!" or "NATO!" I am not kidding.

Now? Not so much.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at October 03, 2012 11:51 AM (l3vZN)

229 Now who exactly mortared the Turks. Couldn't have been the actual rebels, looking to point the finger at the Syria Govt., could it? or planned by some other enemy of Assad? Seems like some pawns are being moved around. I done told ya. Its forces loyal to Assad, the remains of the Syrian Army, who are getting armed and probably troops from Iran. For reals. This is not just Turkey against Syria, its Turkey against Iran

Posted by: thunderb a conservative jew at October 03, 2012 11:52 AM (Dnbau)

230 So we've got a couple ME countries lobbing explosives at each other and at Drudge.....*crickets*

That fucker asleep or what? We got the siren last night but nothing today???

Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 03, 2012 11:52 AM (da5Wo)

231 I am telling you Arabs do not like Turks. This isn't gonna be one big happy family. This is about if Iran rolls through the ME like Hitler through Europe.

Posted by: thunderb a conservative jew at October 03, 2012 03:44 PM (Dnbau)

---------------------------------------------------

All of what's happening in the ME now can be traced either directly or indirectly back to Iran. Iran is the big instigator.

We need a prez and Sec of State with balls and the willingness to swing them.

Posted by: Soona at October 03, 2012 11:52 AM (GkhJB)

232 /paranoia switch off Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 03, 2012 03:50 PM (PHb2k) Nah, keep it on. That area of the world is filled with the biggest POSs on the planet. Nothing is as it appears and everything is for sale.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at October 03, 2012 11:52 AM (9TTOe)

233

Obama and the Donks: All problems can be solved by raising taxes.

Islam: All problems can be solved by killing the innocent.

Posted by: WalrusRex at October 03, 2012 11:53 AM (XUKZU)

234 Syria has bitten off Waaaaaaa more than they can chew with the Turks. The turks are good soldiers and they will crush the Syrians like soft shelled bugs. They have no choice except to take their medicine.

Posted by: maddogg at October 03, 2012 11:53 AM (OlN4e)

235

Turkey has water. Seriously. And the middle east needs water more than it needs oil (since the arabs don't make anything or need energy to power their savage lives). But they must have water.

And our food.

Posted by: Everywhere else at October 03, 2012 11:53 AM (NF2Bf)

236 This is not just Turkey against Syria, its Turkey against Iran Posted by: thunderb a conservative jew at October 03, 2012 03:52 PM (Dnbau) I'll buy a 49.95 pay per view ticket for that.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at October 03, 2012 11:53 AM (9TTOe)

237 We need a prez and Sec of State with balls and the willingness to swing them. Posted by: Soona at October 03, 2012 03:52 PM (GkhJB) Nov 6th Baby, Nov 6th

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 03, 2012 11:53 AM (j1gX1)

238

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 03, 2012 03:50 PM (PHb2k)

Its not technicly Paranoia, if they ARE out to get you....

And... they are...

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 03, 2012 11:53 AM (lZBBB)

239 Russia has a large naval base in Tartus Syria which is their main Mediterranean base. Putin has stated under no uncertain terms that he has Asshead's back. Iran is also a major ally. Then there's Hezbollah.

This won't be settled with some drone strikes, a few cruise missiles and a no fly zone, shit would get real

Posted by: kbdabear at October 03, 2012 11:54 AM (wwsoB)

240 Good job at the side distraction Hillary, that's better than when I bombed that aspirin factory because of.....well, you know.

Posted by: Billy the cad Clinton at October 03, 2012 11:54 AM (PHb2k)

241

Wait, it gets better.

The Kurds have carved out a little statelet in northern Syria. Both the Sunni- Turks and the Alawite-Shia-Iranians don't get along with and oppress the Kurds. Apparently the ugly PPK strain of Kurdish nationalism has been growing recently as well.

So Erdogan is calling this thing Karbala and now he's launched strikes into Syria. Not so far gone yet they can't pull it back.

Posted by: Beagle at October 03, 2012 11:54 AM (sOtz/)

242 The turks are good soldiers and they will crush the Syrians like soft shelled bugs. They have no choice except to take their medicine. This is true. They will skull fuck you and have a chai and a cigarette when they are doing it

Posted by: thunderb a conservative jew at October 03, 2012 11:55 AM (Dnbau)

243 Well, at least ONE country is responding to aggression...

Posted by: Sgt. York at October 03, 2012 11:55 AM (FqBlL)

244 The turks are ruthless with the PKK. ButI do not think this latest deal is about the PKK

Posted by: thunderb a conservative jew at October 03, 2012 11:57 AM (Dnbau)

245 This is not just Turkey against Syria, its Turkey against Iran Posted by: thunderb a conservative jew at October 03, 2012 03:52 PM (Dnbau) --- Which is why I think the Saudis could be pulling strings, too. The big players in the Middle East right now are Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and Iran. Taking out the Iranian puppet regimes in places like Syria help weaken Iran and would be payback for some of the Iranian attempts to overthrow the governments of the Gulf States and bring them under Iranian control. The only thing better than taking out Iran's puppets for them would probably be tricking one of their rivals into doing the dirty work for them.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 03, 2012 11:57 AM (e0xKF)

246 Never, ever piss off a tom-turkey.

Posted by: Farmer One-nut at October 03, 2012 03:47 PM (wAQA5)

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Females are kind of benign. The toms are crazy-mean. And smart. And sneaky.

Posted by: Soona at October 03, 2012 11:58 AM (GkhJB)

247

Lets be glad the Mexican government hasn't responded in the Turkish manner over the Fast & Furious scandal.

Guns and psychopaths can be run north of the border as well

Posted by: Ouchy at October 03, 2012 11:58 AM (NHNJt)

248 I told ya Bill, you got to use a pawn to get the distraction. That's how you do it, no more Libya in the news his there. Oh and you suck loser.

Posted by: Hillary the sad Clinton at October 03, 2012 11:58 AM (PHb2k)

249 Didn't all Rachel Corrie and her comrades tell us that if Israel would just pack up and leave that the Middle East would become one big love fest?

It's a culture that loves death, no matter what the do-gooders want to believe

Posted by: kbdabear at October 03, 2012 11:59 AM (wwsoB)

250 Under NATO nuclear weapons sharing, the United States has provided nuclear weapons for Belgium, Germany, Italy, the Netherlands, and Turkey to deploy and store. This involves pilots and other staff of the "non-nuclear" NATO states practicing, handling, and delivering the U.S. nuclear bombs, and adapting non-U.S. warplanes to deliver U.S. nuclear bombs. Just thought I would share.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at October 03, 2012 11:59 AM (9TTOe)

251 Lets be glad the Mexican government hasn't responded in the Turkish manner over the Fast Furious scandal. Guns and psychopaths can be run north of the border as well Posted by: Ouchy at October 03, 2012 03:58 PM (NHNJt) I am working on that

Posted by: Zimmerman at October 03, 2012 11:59 AM (j1gX1)

252

so after all the Turks and Syrians kill each other, we just give turkey to the Palestinians and Isreal gets Syria/West Bank as Lebensraum in the East.

what could possibly go wrong?

Posted by: Barry at October 03, 2012 12:00 PM (SO2Q8)

253 all of this, all of this is because we have an empty chair as CiC.

Posted by: thunderb a conservative jew at October 03, 2012 12:00 PM (Dnbau)

254 254 Didn't all Rachel Corrie and her comrades tell us that if Israel would just pack up and leave that the Middle East would become one big love fest? It's a culture that loves death, no matter what the do-gooders want to believe --- St. Pancake didn't understand a lot of things, hence her nickname.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 03, 2012 12:01 PM (e0xKF)

255 Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at October 03, 2012 03:59 PM (9TTOe) The Turks do NOT have any control over our Nuclear Weapons.

Posted by: Zimmerman at October 03, 2012 12:01 PM (j1gX1)

256 SHit sock off

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 03, 2012 12:01 PM (j1gX1)

257 Dave_in_Fla @Dave_in_Fla 30m 3 month Rasmussen Party ID average becomes MORE Republican at D/R/I of 33.8/36.4/29.8 ... D+3 turnout assumptions hardest hit.

Posted by: Evilpens at October 03, 2012 12:03 PM (ck76k)

258 The Turks do NOT have any control over our Nuclear Weapons. Posted by: Zimmerman at October 03, 2012 04:01 PM (j1gX1) Study up buttercup. Control is a word you use when you know you have some. The weapons are on the soil and have been for quite some time.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at October 03, 2012 12:03 PM (9TTOe)

259 went to a turkish paper. Turks wanted to set up a "buffer zone" for kurds in northern Syria as they were pouring over the border into Turkey when the civil war broke out. Turkey don't want no more Kurds. Funny, elements of border security, terrorism, and sovereignty. What old fashioned concepts

Posted by: thunderb a conservative jew at October 03, 2012 12:07 PM (Dnbau)

260 Arabs are not too in love with Persians either.

Posted by: maddogg at October 03, 2012 12:07 PM (OlN4e)

261 Re: Panetta et al ... so basically this admin doesn't know shit about shit.

Posted by: Honey Badger at October 03, 2012 12:09 PM (GvYeG)

262

The new PKK leaning Kurdish statelet carved out of the chaos in Syria is on oil. Like Shia in Saudi Arabia live on oil. Hard to design a place more prone to conflict.

Posted by: Beagle at October 03, 2012 12:14 PM (sOtz/)

263 well... we will know if Iran has the bomb soon enough, won't we.

Posted by: thunderb a conservative jew at October 03, 2012 12:15 PM (Dnbau)

264 Study up buttercup. Control is a word you use when you know you have some. The weapons are on the soil and have been for quite some time. Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at October 03, 2012 04:03 PM (9TTOe) Yes they "Might" still be on their soil. They would not be if I was in charge, but anyway, they under OUR control. The Turks are able to say no to our using them, but they have absolutely no ability to use them what so ever.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 03, 2012 12:15 PM (j1gX1)

265 The blessing of our country is that we are young and diverse. The Persians Turks and Arabs all at least distrust each other. Some of it boils down to hate. It's a caldron of shit.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at October 03, 2012 12:17 PM (9TTOe)

266 Syrian bombs hit Israel territory. Israel's response: We understand it was an accident. No one was hurt. We'll keep watch, of course, but it's nothing.

Syrian bombs hit Turkey territory. Turkey's response: Bombs away! Obliterate them!

Compare and contrast.

Posted by: hadsil at October 03, 2012 12:24 PM (HYDTz)

267 Yes they "Might" still be on their soil. They would not be if I was in charge, but anyway, they under OUR control. The Turks are able to say no to our using them, but they have absolutely no ability to use them what so ever. Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 03, 2012 04:15 PM (j1gX1) And the current Admin. has so much control over that region. Your are correct, they prolly have control over all American weapons. Just like they had control over the libyans that killed our ambassador, or the Egyptians or the other dozen or so countries where our sovereign soil was violated. Yes, you are correct under a normal Admin that would not be possible. These are not normal times.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at October 03, 2012 12:27 PM (9TTOe)

268 109 ((snip)) ... fuckit. Im pulling my own pug. Dipshits on his own now. Posted by: The 3:00 AM Emergency Phone at October 03, 2012 03:23 PM (C8hzL) Hey!!! Leave me alone!0

Posted by: Little Black Pug at October 03, 2012 12:28 PM (9ek7+)

269 You know, time was when the Turks could settle Syria's hash in the course of an afternoon and still get home for dinner.

But Erdogan and his Freedom and Justice Party have purged the officer ranks of all real professionals, the only ones left behind are their islamist stooges.

Sad really. How's your new caliphate looking now?

Posted by: Chipperoo at October 03, 2012 12:54 PM (6c62F)

270 I agree with Beagle and Thunderb that the PPK is the key here. A Kurdish political homeland would involve territorial concessions from Turkey, unlikely to happen but a complete impossibility with the communist insurgency in operation.

Iraqi Kurds are not as sold on PPK as the Kurds inside Turkey are. Should the two peoples ever strike a land bargain, they are natural economic allies on the oil/water thing, and both somewhat more stable than Syria or Iran. An independent Kurdistan could be a good thing.

Our task would be, were we still in the Great Game, to promote non-PPK Kurdish interests, try to smooth over Kurd-Turkey border atrocities, and find the two a common enemy. There will never be a PPK-led Kurdish nation.

But we don't do that kind of thing anymore.

Posted by: comatus at October 03, 2012 01:11 PM (qaVK+)

271 الديك مص محمد

Posted by: toby928© for TB at October 03, 2012 01:30 PM (evdj2)

272 "We've Lost Track of Some of Syria's Chemical Weapons." Don't worry. I'm sure the FBI is on it.

Posted by: GalosGann at October 03, 2012 01:30 PM (T3KlW)

273 What no one here seems to realize is that Turkey is a signatory of the NATO treaty...what this is called is an act of war by Syria...Turkey COULD demand support from NATO and then obliderate the Syrian government/armed forces...all the while screaming for support from NATO, which would be obligated to provide it.

Posted by: Rich Vail at October 03, 2012 02:13 PM (GkYyh)

274 Panetta: We've Lost Track of Some of Syria's Chemical Weapons. And they don't know where the weapons are, either.

Translated: We're not willing to admit to whom we've sold, repossessed and gifted chemical weapons.

Posted by: number nine at October 03, 2012 02:21 PM (BAnPT)

275 Relax. Moochelle profits from chemical weapons deal, great school lunch menu. There's more than one way to get those obese kids to lose weight; "it's for their own good." Excess populace according to the eugenics administration. It's a win/win; teacher unions get their smaller classes. No need for those highways to suburbia, either.

Posted by: number nine at October 03, 2012 02:27 PM (BAnPT)

276 I do not give one shit what the NATO agreement says. Europe is deep into trade and oil with Iran. They would never do anything to disrupt the flow. That means we would have to go it alone or force the issue. Our Islamist Neville Chamberlain of a prezzie will Not lead. Ever

Posted by: thunderb at October 03, 2012 02:48 PM (NA0ZQ)

277 So the West is reduced (again) to hoping for the wars between the Persian and Turk and Saudi branches of evil to save our shit.

Posted by: meleager at October 03, 2012 04:17 PM (Oo7gg)

278 Greetings: One of the tricks in your basic infantry handbook is to get in between two armed forces, fire in both directions and skedaddle. I would also mention that mortars don't really shoot all that far. So, it seems to me that the attack could well have come from any number of Islamaniac groups. ANd wasn't Turkey our ally who would let the 4th Infantry come through to go knocking on some of Saddam Hussein's palace doors ???

Posted by: 11B40 at October 03, 2012 05:19 PM (jDe/h)

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