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October 12, 2012

Twelve Years Ago Today: The Bombing of the USS Cole
— Dave in Texas

In memory of the 17 US Navy sailors who lost their lives in an attack by Al Qaeda on the USS Cole. The is the Cole Memorial, at Norfolk Naval Station.

We let our guard down or show weakness, this is what they do. Just like last month. Only this time they were thoughtful enough to tell us they were coming.

39 other sailors were injured in the attack. Below the fold, the names of those who perished.

via Viv Lee

Also from the sidebar, Command Sergeant Major Basil Plumley, US Army, passes at 92. A combat veteran of three wars, remembered forever in Ia Drang glory. May he rest.

Chief Petty Officer Richard Costelow
Signalman Seaman Recruit Cheron Luis Gunn
Seaman James Rodrick McDaniels
Seaman Recruit Lakiba Nicole Palmer
Operations Specialist 2nd Class Timothy Lamont Saunders
Ensign Andrew Triplett
Seaman Apprentice Craig Bryan Wibberley
Hull Maintenance Technician 3rd Class, Kenneth Eugene Clodfelter
Mess Management Specialist Seaman Lakeina Monique Francis
Information Systems Technician Seaman Timothy Lee Gauna
Engineman 2nd Class Mark Ian Nieto
Electronics Warfare Technician 3rd Class Ronald Scott Owens
Engineman Fireman Joshua Langdon Parlett
Fireman Apprentice Patrick Howard Roy
Electronics Warfare Technician 2nd Class Kevin Shawn Rux
Mess Management Specialist 3rd Class Ronchester Mananga Santiago
Fireman Gary Graham Swenchonis Jr.

Posted by: Dave in Texas at 11:06 AM | Comments (125)
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1 Firstest with the bestest!

Posted by: Meremortal, less filling at October 12, 2012 11:06 AM (1Y+hH)

2 Ha ha ha ha ha

Posted by: Joe Biden at October 12, 2012 11:06 AM (cgxNI)

3 Crap, my Joey Bin Biden sock didn't take

Posted by: Meremortal, less filling at October 12, 2012 11:06 AM (1Y+hH)

4 Smirk

Posted by: Joe Biden at October 12, 2012 11:06 AM (cgxNI)

5 I fn hate the blame America first crowd.

Posted by: c'mon at October 12, 2012 11:07 AM (W2qJe)

6 Guffaw

Posted by: Joe Biden at October 12, 2012 11:07 AM (cgxNI)

7 Much honor and respect to those who serve and to those who have died, as well as to their families.

Well, this is quite the downer from what was shaping up to be a wild open thread.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 12, 2012 11:07 AM (da5Wo)

Obama is doing what today to remember the Cole?

Posted by: Meremortal, wondering at October 12, 2012 11:08 AM (1Y+hH)

9 USS Cole? Didn't that happen 8 million billions years ago?

On a serious note: rest those men's souls.

Posted by: Heralder at October 12, 2012 11:08 AM (+xmn4)

10 Grin!

Posted by: Joe Biden at October 12, 2012 11:08 AM (cgxNI)

Thank you Dave.

Bets

USN, Ret.

Posted by: Bets at October 12, 2012 11:09 AM (aSWF8)

12 I was there man!

Posted by: Joe Biden at October 12, 2012 11:09 AM (cgxNI)

13 Payback.

Posted by: EC at October 12, 2012 11:09 AM (GQ8sn)

14 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable tyrant.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at October 12, 2012 11:10 AM (5DR1j)

God Bless Them All.

Posted by: garrett at October 12, 2012 11:11 AM (ftKjg)

16 Obama is doing what today to remember the Cole?

Campaigning. Duh.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/schedule/president

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at October 12, 2012 11:11 AM (/kI1Q)

17 God rest their souls.

And may we obtain a government which will not discard the lessons of the Cole, 9/11, and the other 9/11.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at October 12, 2012 11:13 AM (5DR1j)

18 This was a spontaneous protest against the offensive, disgusting existence of the United States. We had absolutely nothing to do with it. The future does not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam. Now, back to the fundraising trail.

Posted by: Barry Obama at October 12, 2012 11:14 AM (v+QvA)

19 12 years ago... I think golfer Payne Stewart and others crashed in that very mysterious midair whateverthefuck happened.

Posted by: soothsayer already said it at October 12, 2012 11:14 AM (5UHkX)

They attacked the USS Cole, but, but....you call THAT a delivery system?

*Melts down laughing*

Posted by: Joey Bin Biden at October 12, 2012 11:16 AM (1Y+hH)

21

Now I like a Joey B joke as much as the next guy, but even so, let's have a little more decorum than VP Homer (Biden) Simpson.

Posted by: tod von oben at October 12, 2012 11:18 AM (UaxA0)

22 I am beginning to think it must be something in the water!!!!

Posted by: Clemenza at October 12, 2012 11:18 AM (zj3Rc)

23 It will be interesting to see how the goat fucking kiddie raper's followers behave once Romney takes office. They've had it soft for 4+ years. I don't get the feeling the the R2 boys will be quite so unconcerned. (Synonym. S-y-n-o-n-y-m. A word you use when you can't spell the word you want, and you can't spell it so damned badly that two - TWO - different spellcheckers can't figure out what the hell you mean only that it's wrong...)

Posted by: Boomer Redneque, Gas Fumes Edition at October 12, 2012 11:19 AM (JCMEp)

24 Friends: Another patriotic solder needs our help: Col. Allen West is down by 9 points in Florida -- the avalanche of dirty tricks and slanderous videos by the Dims is overwhelming. I got this in an email from Newsmax today, asking for donations to help West, Mia Love, Tim Scott, and Vernon Parker.

Dear Patriot,

It seems the relentless and overwhelming deluge of negative ads is taking a toll on Allen's campaign.

The Democrats are absolutely determined to destroy every single black conservative running for office this year. We must fight back hard and do it NOW!

While this poll of Allen West's race was conducted by the Democrats, I'm told that other surveys also show that Allen is in the fight of his life.

This is VERY, VERY bad news.

These polls show that a black conservative can be ruined if you simply spend enough on horrible negative attack ads.

We have to help reverse this tide. We must stand up to these smear campaigns. We need to defend Allen West, Tim Scott, Mia Love, and Vernon Parker.

What the Democrats are doing is vile and despicable. But they will keep it up as long as they believe they can win.

For an incumbent like Allen West to be down nine points or even to be tied is a very dangerous sign.

And if the liberals are able to crush good conservatives like Allen West, Tim Scott, Mia Love, and Vernon Parker this year, how many others will be willing to step forward and put themselves and their families through a similar ordeal in the future?

That's what we are fighting for.

Fight back today!

(from BAMPAC, the Black American Political Action Committee, at BAMPAC dot org.)

Posted by: beverly at October 12, 2012 11:20 AM (2EiYr)

25 I know you Rethuglicans like Cole but Barack and I believe in clean energy.

Posted by: Smirkin' Joe Biden at October 12, 2012 11:20 AM (Hx5uv)

26 Posted by: tod von oben at October 12, 2012 03:18 PM (UaxA0)

I think it's just gallows humor.

9/11/2009 I was more depressed than I ever had been before (and only have been since on the day the ObamaCare decision was handed down) because it was the first 9/11 anniversary when we had a president who just. didn't. care.

I think contemplating that (again) is just too much- so gallows humor.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at October 12, 2012 11:21 AM (5DR1j)

27 GOOD GOD MAN! I WAS THERE! I VOTED AGAINST THE USS COLE! A DINGHY AS A DELIVERY SYSTEM?!? HA...... *rolls eyes* *dismissive hand toss*, A LOT OF GOOD THAT DID! THE ATTACKERS DIDN'T GET AWAY! THEY BLEW UP WITH THEIR BOAT! NOT VERY SMART.

Posted by: Smirkin' Joey B at October 12, 2012 11:21 AM (jucos)

28 Congressman Allen West vs. CAIR:

http://tinyurl.com/8wvsb8v

West fought the jihadi fuckers in Iraq; he knows them all too well.

Posted by: beverly at October 12, 2012 11:23 AM (2EiYr)

29 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: steevy at October 12, 2012 11:23 AM (6o4Fb)

30 Joey Bin Biden, #20: Good one. I couldn't expect that Ryan's preparation would be so deep on all subjects that he could school Biden on technical details of nuclear weapons, but I think the Romney campaign ought, somehow, to make this point: - The president has said he will not allow Iran to acquire nuclear weapons capability. So have we. The argument is over where to draw the red line. - We define that as having enough plutonium or weapons-grade uranium to make a bomb. Once they have that, the bomb is sure to follow. - The vice president apparently defines it as having the weapon fully assembled, and possibly (we're not sure what he meant) mounted on a delivery system. Coming back on topic: all honors to the sailors lost aboard the Cole; and rest in peace, CSM Plumley.

Posted by: JPS at October 12, 2012 11:23 AM (D3/Pv)

31 Far too many Texans died in that attack...

Posted by: SouthTexas at October 12, 2012 11:25 AM (uhFbA)

32 I thought this was a day or two ago, because there was a terror attack that killed one of our men over there linked to this anniversary.

Either way, rest in piece all who died.

Posted by: JarvisW at October 12, 2012 11:26 AM (E7Iyp)

33 If the R/R campaign mentions anything about this, they will be accused of politicizing it.

Posted by: i am mad as hell and i am not going to take it anymore at October 12, 2012 11:27 AM (cgxNI)

34 As usual.....Well done DiT.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 12, 2012 11:28 AM (2b4yb)

35 I'm sure somebody's mom will call up the Romney campaign (and Media Matters simultaneously) to complain about the politicization of the event.

Posted by: Jay in Ames at October 12, 2012 11:29 AM (i2Lsf)

It is gallows humor.

I am not wanting to revisit how I felt the day if happened. So, I'm weak there.

Posted by: Meremortal at October 12, 2012 11:29 AM (1Y+hH)

37 3 19yr olds from Maryland were killed that day....one Joshua Langdon Parlett was from our county.....

Posted by: phoenixgirl, what did huma abedin know at October 12, 2012 11:31 AM (j1z2L)

This happened in an election year...where the Dem-media was desperate to get their guy AlGore elected.

I remember only very light coverage of it.

The liberal media was largely dismissive of it.

Damn them to hell.

Posted by: wheatie at October 12, 2012 11:32 AM (l5RhJ)

39 37 3 19yr olds from Maryland were killed that day....one Joshua Langdon Parlett was from our county.....

Posted by: phoenixgirl, what did huma abedin know at October 12, 2012 03:31 PM (j1z2L)

Where at in MD phoenixgirl? My wife is from that area and we lived up there for several years after we got married.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 12, 2012 11:32 AM (da5Wo)

40 I notice quite a few non-combat roles that were killed. Granted, they were on a warship, but you don't expect that when you are working in the mess hall.

Posted by: Jay in Ames at October 12, 2012 11:33 AM (i2Lsf)

41 I notice quite a few non-combat roles that were killed. Granted, they were on a warship, but you don't expect that when you are working in the mess hall.

Posted by: Jay in Ames at October 12, 2012 03:33 PM (i2Lsf)

We do now. The front is everywhere.

Posted by: Meremortal, on guard at October 12, 2012 11:35 AM (1Y+hH)

32 I thought this was a day or two ago, because there was a terror attack that killed one of our men over there linked to this anniversary.

The muzzies are big on observing anniversaries.

Maybe according to their Moon Calendar...the anniversary was a couple of days ago.

Posted by: wheatie at October 12, 2012 11:35 AM (l5RhJ)

43 New Denver Post Poll: R 48, O 47. There's that 47% again.

Posted by: Meremortal, on guard at October 12, 2012 11:41 AM (1Y+hH)

44 OT: Did you see this shit: http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/viral-video/cleveland-bus-punch-736901

Posted by: Highsmith at October 12, 2012 11:42 AM (uwaMU)

45 /salute

Posted by: trailortrash at October 12, 2012 11:44 AM (xllDV)

46 I have friend and former boss who was a Gunner's Mate on the Cole that day. The anniversary is always a tough day for him. If there are any Nashville morons drop and say hi to him, he's the owner of D&T Arms in Goodlettsville, right across from Rivergate Mall.

Posted by: Country Singer (likes teh ginger ladies) at October 12, 2012 11:44 AM (+r4NB)

47 My husband went through officer training with a woman who was serving on the Cole when she was attacked.... he said the woman struggled with the memories and survivor's guilt every day.

Posted by: CMS2004 at October 12, 2012 11:44 AM (arttL)

48 "If any of you sons of bitches calls me grandpa, I'll kill you."

- Sergeant Major Basil Plumley

Posted by: Emile Antoon Khadaji at October 12, 2012 11:45 AM (jvP3n)

49 Posted by: Highsmith at October 12, 2012 03:42 PM (uwaMU) That must be that Oiho hospitality I keep hearing about.

Posted by: cajun carrot at October 12, 2012 11:46 AM (UZQM8)

50 RIP, our debt to those who serve and give their all can never be repaid.

Posted by: Will Never Vote For a dhimmocrat at October 12, 2012 11:47 AM (kXoT0)

51 Double dumbass on Joe.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at October 12, 2012 11:48 AM (AzDzi)

52 Think for a moment and compare Basil Plumley to the politicians the Leftards love so goddamn much. It kinds turns your stomach, does it not?

Posted by: maddogg at October 12, 2012 11:48 AM (OlN4e)

53 Nobody bombed the Cole, what the hell are you talking about, man?

Posted by: Ragin' Joe Biden at October 12, 2012 11:49 AM (0CiTm)

54 God bless their families. I pray that we may once again be a country that is worthy of the lives of such men.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra impact. at October 12, 2012 11:49 AM (VtjlW)

According to Joey "giggles" Biden and Barack "I killed Osama" Obama, Al qaeda is no longer a problem. They got Bin Laden. Killed him Dead May 1, 2011. So the same organization that bombed the African embassies in 1998, and attacked the USS Cole in 2000, and attacked NYC and DC on Sept 11, 2001 is no longer a threat. Nevermind that this Al Qaeda is the same jihadist organization that attacked our consulate in Benghazi on Sept. 11, 2012. And according to Lt. Col. Wood is better organized in Libya than we were.

Bin Laden is dead, Al Qaeda is not a threat. Do not tell me otherwise. Do not worry, there is no threat. Barack killed Osama, the head bad guy. Just like in the movies, the threat is over once the head bad guy is dead, and everything is all flowers and puppydogs better.

--- And Cut to Barack and Michelle riding off into the glorious sunset in their 747.

What could go Worng?

Posted by: rd does not trust the MSM at October 12, 2012 11:49 AM (zLp5I)

56 What happened to the USS Cole was a spontaneous protest. We are told by the intelligence community that what happened was that a group of Yemeni fishermen became enraged when they heard that pork was being served in the Cole's galleys, offending their religious sensitivities. They just happened to have a boatload of high explosives handy to demonstrate their anger. We condemn in the strongest terms the Cole's mess specialists, who deliberately provoked their generous Arab hosts by brazenly serving bacon.

Posted by: Ambassador Susan Rice at October 12, 2012 11:50 AM (659DL)

57 I'm starting to feel good in saying that we have 5 States locked up that Obama won in 2008. FLA, VA, NC, CO, IN. That gets us to 248. Getting a remaining 22 is very, very doable.

Posted by: Rich at October 12, 2012 11:54 AM (pnHKr)

58 Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra impact. at October 12, 2012 03:49 PM (VtjlW)

Our country is worthy....it is our politicians and the political elites who are unworthy.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 12, 2012 11:55 AM (2b4yb)

59 Correction, that gets us to 257

Posted by: Rich at October 12, 2012 11:55 AM (pnHKr)

60 /Salute

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 12, 2012 11:56 AM (lZBBB)

61 Posted by: Rich at October 12, 2012 03:54 PM (pnHKr)

That gets us to 258.

Wow....what a Debbie-Downer!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 12, 2012 11:57 AM (2b4yb)

62 Suddenly I'M under the bus?! Gonna be payback bitches!

Posted by: Hilary Clinton at October 12, 2012 11:58 AM (OiC7K)

63 The Cole? That wouldn't have been a BFD if it weren't for Romney and Ryan.

Posted by: Joe Biden at October 12, 2012 11:59 AM (mka2b)

64 Up at Drudge:

ATF Fast & Furious whistleblower fired in a Denny's parking lot:

http://tinyurl.com/9x7y44s

Posted by: Tex Lovera at October 12, 2012 12:01 PM (wtvvX)

65 Suddenly I'M under the bus?! Gonna be payback bitches!

Posted by: Hilary Clinton at October 12, 2012 03:58 PM (OiC7K)

My boyfriend's back and you're gonna be in trouble
(Hey-la-day-la my boyfriend's back)
You see him comin' better cut out on the double
(Hey-la-day-la my boyfriend's back)
You been spreading lies that I was untrue
(Hey-la-day-la my boyfriend's back)
So look out now cause he's comin' after you

Posted by: WalrusRex at October 12, 2012 12:01 PM (Hx5uv)

66 I'm starting to feel good in saying that we have 5 States locked up that Obama won in 2008. FLA, VA, NC, CO, IN. That gets us to 248. Getting a remaining 22 is very, very doable. --- No no no, I have it on good authority that Barky's going to win every swing state. Some troll with a whole bunch of hashes told me so.

Posted by: mediumheadboy at October 12, 2012 12:02 PM (aHR5E)

67 My gut is approaching 50-50 on this election. I've thought all along that it was winnable, but victory would be tough--probably 3 to 2 in Obama's favor. The bitter primary season made me drop down to maybe 2 to 1 in Obama's favor, but picking Ryan moved it back to 3 to 2.

All the relentless bad polling and unbelievable media bias was really starting to worry me, until Romney's debate again moved it to 3 to 2.

This week, though, the wheels appear *that* close to coming off the Democrats. Right now I think they have a much better chance of imploding than Romney does.

If he bests President Boo-boo in the next debate, Mitt will come out of it the clear favorite. No matter what Nate Silver says.

Posted by: Nicholas Kronos at October 12, 2012 12:03 PM (h9gW0)

68 The Cole? *snicker*.

Posted by: Crazy Joe DaBiden at October 12, 2012 12:03 PM (0CiTm)

69 Posted by: Rich at October 12, 2012 03:55 PM (pnHKr)

I am assuming one electoral vote from Maine, which allows splitting.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 12, 2012 12:03 PM (2b4yb)

70 You suppose Boo Boo supporters watch debates? Yeah, me neither. That's why I am such a horse's ass. Well that and I am a horse's ass.

Posted by: Joe Biden at October 12, 2012 12:04 PM (mka2b)

71 Michelle had pictures of those that died. I made a point to look at each face. People seem to disconnect themselves from acts of war and violence. The faces make it more real. http://michellemalkin.com/2012/10/12/the-deadly-disgrace-of-obamas-pro-terrorist-lawyers/

Posted by: prayers and thoughts at October 12, 2012 12:07 PM (LpQbZ)

72 62 Have we added NH?

Posted by: Honey Badger at October 12, 2012 12:11 PM (GvYeG)

Posted by: Rich at October 12, 2012 03:55 PM (pnHKr)

I am assuming one electoral vote from Maine, which allows splitting.

------------

That could actually be a huge deal, because if we got to 258 with the Maine vote, that means we could win the thing with just Iowa and Nevada and not have to worry about Ohio, Wisconsin, NH, Penn.

Does anyone know the other two states that split their votes and how the districts are likely to vote? As in, is there a chance we lose an electoral vote or gain another vote from one of thsoe states?

Posted by: Rich at October 12, 2012 12:12 PM (pnHKr)

74 Bcochran We lived in Hartford co

Posted by: phoenixgirl, still angry & ever vilgiliant at October 12, 2012 12:13 PM (VoATG)

75 And MO?

Posted by: Honey Badger at October 12, 2012 12:13 PM (GvYeG)

Posted by: Rich at October 12, 2012 04:12 PM (pnHKr)

Personaly, I'd love to see ALL States split votes this way... make it a real National Election, not just an election where a few States seem to matter....

ie.... whoever wins the vote total in each district gets that vote, with the overall winner of the State getting the two electoral votes for the Senators... (that way winning a State is a bonus, but not everything...).

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 12, 2012 12:14 PM (lZBBB)

74 I think Nebraska is the only other one. Obama won it last time. We'll get it this time.

Posted by: Honey Badger at October 12, 2012 12:15 PM (GvYeG)

78 God Bless them, everyone.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at October 12, 2012 12:15 PM (kc2b9)

79 Obama won Nebraska?

Posted by: USS Diversity at October 12, 2012 12:17 PM (0CiTm)

80 Stephen Hayes @stephenfhayes Wow. On 9/13/12 a senior Obama admin official told WaPo that US had a "robust American security presence" at Benghazi compound. #whowasthat?

Posted by: Evilpens at October 12, 2012 12:17 PM (ck76k)

81 80 No he picked up one electoral vote. They have a set up similar Maine.

Posted by: Honey Badger at October 12, 2012 12:18 PM (GvYeG)

82 81 Big Bird with a slingshot

Posted by: Honey Badger at October 12, 2012 12:18 PM (GvYeG)

83 Is there a chance he gets that same electoral vote? Or does Romney have that one locked up?

Posted by: Rich at October 12, 2012 12:18 PM (pnHKr)

84 I thought someone posted a poll that had Alan West +12, in tjr past day or so. I would think that if West was losing so badly the Dems would let us know.

Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at October 12, 2012 12:19 PM (j8aJs)

85 God rests the Souls of the USS Cole. United Forever.

Posted by: Craig Poe at October 12, 2012 12:19 PM (BVkEs)

86 84 Romney will get it. Last time was an aberration with McCain doing so poorly.

Posted by: Honey Badger at October 12, 2012 12:21 PM (GvYeG)

87 OT - Evil Texas Woman who glued her little girl's hands to a wall and beat her into a coma just got 99 years in prison.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at October 12, 2012 12:21 PM (5DR1j)

88 77.... Along with eliminating gerrymandering. If EV's were up for grabs that way, the parties would fight to the death over drawing up districts.

Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at October 12, 2012 12:21 PM (j8aJs)

they had something to put the sploody stuff in

Posted by: the smirkin jerkin joe biden at October 12, 2012 12:21 PM (9g/ZD)

90 Coal? **Guffaw** Did you say Coal? *Snort* Trust me. Coal is bad. *Snigger* * Snark*

Posted by: Joe Biden's Chompers at October 12, 2012 12:22 PM (gjIQF)

91 Are these assholes serious? Now even smiling is Republicans' fault. IT'S TEH LIESSS!!!11! http://tinyurl.com/9jzf22k

Posted by: cajun carrot at October 12, 2012 12:23 PM (UZQM8)

Posted by: Honey Badger at October 12, 2012 04:18 PM (GvYeG)

Got it......I apparently do electoral math like Obama debates.

Posted by: USS Diversity at October 12, 2012 12:24 PM (0CiTm)

93 88 OT - Evil Texas Woman who glued her little girl's hands to a wall and beat her into a coma just got 99 years in prison. Don't mess with Texas. We've got a lot of room & a lot of prisons.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 12, 2012 12:26 PM (GFM2b)

94 >>the names of those who perished.<< Paul Fussell has some interesting things to say about sanitized language like "perished" in the context of war in his "The Great War and Modern Memory." Good read.

Posted by: General Zod at October 12, 2012 12:26 PM (2+bRt)

95 Regarding the West comment, there are some scamming sites out there soliciting contributions that then don't go to the candidates. I don't know that the one mentioned is a scam, but as always, be careful.

I haven't heard anything about West being in trouble either. He was ahead a couple of weeks ago.

Posted by: Enby at October 12, 2012 12:26 PM (ptlfZ)

96 ie.... whoever wins the vote total in each district gets that vote, with the overall winner of the State getting the two electoral votes for the Senators... (that way winning a State is a bonus, but not everything...). That's been kicked around before but iirc that would more or less result in a permanent Republican presidency. Here's the 2008 Presidential popular vote results - http://1.usa.gov/RDeDU9 - it's eyeopening to see just how coastal the Dems' voting block is.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra impact. at October 12, 2012 12:27 PM (VtjlW)

97 OT - Evil Texas Woman who glued her little girl's hands to a wall and beat her into a coma just got 99 years in prison. --- Not enough, but I hope they put her in the general population.

Posted by: mediumheadboy at October 12, 2012 12:28 PM (aHR5E)

98 88 OT - Evil Texas Woman who glued her little girl's hands to a wall and beat her into a coma just got 99 years in prison. Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at October 12, 2012 04:21 PM (5DR1j) So now we have to pay for three sqaures and a cot. Take her kids away and sterilize her. I would reccomend execution but I don't want to hear any bullshit. At some point you lose your right to oxygen.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at October 12, 2012 12:28 PM (kc2b9)

99 @92 I get all smiley thinking about the stimulus too. A trillion dollars we'll never get back, it is to laugh.

Posted by: JDTAY at October 12, 2012 12:29 PM (a0nis)

100 ie.... whoever wins the vote total in each district gets that vote, with the overall winner of the State getting the two electoral votes for the Senators... (that way winning a State is a bonus, but not everything...).

It would really contain the voter fraud, too. The smallish states like NE and ME feel free to do it because it doesn't make a difference.

Posted by: AmishDude at October 12, 2012 12:29 PM (T0NGe)

101

97 That's been kicked around before but iirc that would more or less result in a permanent Republican presidency.

Ok.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 12, 2012 12:30 PM (zji3t)

102 Hey, it's Friday afternoon where is our weekly document drop?

Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna at October 12, 2012 12:31 PM (9+ccr)

103 Apparently, neither the State Department, the CIA, nor "the Administration" have the equivalent of Sgt. Major Plumley. Would he have lied through his teeth as instructed and peed on the graves of his subordinates?

Posted by: ejo at October 12, 2012 12:32 PM (GXvSO)

104 The vice president apparently defines it as having the weapon fully assembled, and possibly (we're not sure what he meant) mounted on a delivery system.... Biden kept saying that they didn't have a delivery system so we didn't need to worry. J*sus f*ng chr*st,they have access to suitcases don't they? How about a small jet? He is dumber than my dog.

Posted by: marinemom at October 12, 2012 12:34 PM (OKtOV)

105 Ryan: My name is Paul Ryan Biden: HAHAHA, can you believe this guy??? and I Biden: HAHAHA am a representative Biden: HAHAHA, *eyeroll, sigh* from Wisconsin. Biden: HAHAHA, can you believe this guy???

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 12, 2012 12:35 PM (jUytm)

106 So now we have to pay for three sqaures and a cot. Take her kids away and sterilize her. I would reccomend execution but I don't want to hear any bullshit.

I think that qualifies as a "first world problem." But I actually agree with you- someone who would kill their own child is not someone who can be trusted ever again in society. If someone is that dangerous to society, execution, not lifetime imprisonment, is the correct answer.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at October 12, 2012 12:35 PM (5DR1j)

107 Biden: LOL, get a load of this guy!!

Posted by: The Debate at October 12, 2012 04:34 PM (60GaT)

Eh...OK!

Posted by: A. Cooper at October 12, 2012 12:35 PM (eavT+)

108 The RNC has another ad out from last night, this time mocking Biden's "I always say what I mean."

Posted by: RoyalOil at October 12, 2012 12:35 PM (imtbm)

109 What we need more than congressional district-level electoral votes is more congressional districts. The size of Congress has not grown since Hawaii became a state in 1959. That's ridiculous. There are too many people in most Congressional districts now and it is impossioboe for one person to adequately serve or reflect the views of 600,000 people. Jonah Goldberg proposed a few years ago that we go to a 600-member House.

Posted by: rockmom at October 12, 2012 12:37 PM (aBlZ1)

110 The USS Cole, wasn't that the ship whose sentries were not given bullets for their weapons? Sound familiar?

Posted by: navybrat at October 12, 2012 12:37 PM (DWX1w)

111 Here is a question I would really like to see asked of Obamao at the town hall meeting:

"Mr. President when you sold your soul to the Devil - did you ask to be President or did you ask to be President twice?"

Posted by: An Observation at October 12, 2012 12:38 PM (ylhEn)

112
Paul Ryan was rude and condescending to Vice President Biden, constantly interrupting and attempting to inject his version of the truth. There is only one truth, and the spoken word from Vice President Biden is the standard.

Posted by: Stephanie Cutter at October 12, 2012 12:38 PM (lDWQr)

113

Posted by: marinemom at October 12, 2012 04:34 PM (OKtOV)

Yep.... Iran's ICBM??? Its a Civilain 747 with a Moslem Pilot...

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 12, 2012 12:39 PM (lZBBB)

114

i predict laughing joe biden will be a popular halloween costume this year

Posted by: the smirkin jerkin joe biden at October 12, 2012 12:42 PM (9g/ZD)

115 i predict laughing joe biden will be a popular halloween costume this year The comments on twitter about people going as fetus Bean mocking Ryan about his daughter make me want to flamethrow humanity. Yeah, it's an utter mystery why decent human beings would be very hesitant to go into politics. Utter. Mystery.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra impact. at October 12, 2012 12:45 PM (VtjlW)

116
The Five will be especially fruitful today as Bob Beckel attempts to explain why Joe Biden should be a heart beat away from the presidency with his manic and deranged psychotic performance.

Posted by: Doctor Fish at October 12, 2012 12:46 PM (lDWQr)

117 I added it all up earlier it came roughly to 42m total viewing the debate last night. My guess is that was the morons like us who where hoping for another beat down. I suspect that the third debate is going to be a BFD. This townhall will get some noise but probably more for the Dem fuckery that they are going to pull.

Posted by: cajun carrot at October 12, 2012 12:47 PM (UZQM8)

118 Biden's behavior about the stimulus was awful, although Ryan could have done better at rebutting it.

Ryan: "I'm the representative of [whatever] district in Wisconsin, so when the federal government takes $800 billion of the people's money to dole out, of course I'm going to represent my constituents and ask for some of it to be sent back home to Wisconsin. I'm not going to roll over and let you pass it out to the administration's cronies and deprive Wisconsin of its fair share."

And Biden...ugh! He really did act like he was some royal magistrate dispensing *his* money. Something about "I'll entertain any request you send."

Vomit.

Posted by: Nicholas Kronos at October 12, 2012 12:50 PM (h9gW0)

119 Whatever happened to the story about the Libyan staff asking for help during the attack? Benghazi is right next to the Med. Where were our 6th Fleet units at the time of the attack? Any carriers or amphibious ships nearby? Flight time from US air bases in the Med/ fleet unit positions at the time to Benghazi? What were our options/ capabilities & how long did the attack last? When was the first report of the attack received? Did admin officials make decisions in response to any pleas for help? Was any input solicited from or given to admin officials by any of the Joint Chiefs while the attack was still in progress? Just curious whether Obama or other officials denied *any kind of military support* during the time of the attack, as it appears the attack lasted some time.

Posted by: Andy S at October 12, 2012 12:58 PM (q72+j)

120

Ryan's performance last night is like a fine wine,it keeps getting better with age

Posted by: kj at October 12, 2012 01:03 PM (9g/ZD)

121

122 Biden's behavior about the stimulus was awful, although Ryan could have done better at rebutting it.

Ryan was getting slapped down by the Dominatrix Moderater, on nearly every rebuttal.

But at least he got the dig in that Biden was "supposed to be looking after it".

One of the really bad things about the Stimulus...was all the govt jobs they created with it.

Those add to the deficit spending, to keep them going.

Posted by: wheatie at October 12, 2012 01:03 PM (l5RhJ)

122 We are back where we were before Bush when terrorism was swept under the carpet. And that's where we are going if the Joker and his pal are reelected.

Posted by: Davidlind at October 12, 2012 01:55 PM (J9mCu)

123 All comfort and peace to the families of those listed.

Posted by: and irresolute at October 12, 2012 11:07 PM (JvklE)

124 God bless our diligent warriors and their families.

Posted by: Kratos at October 13, 2012 05:34 AM (5Vuz/)

125 Thanks for honoring the USS Cole and the 17 who lost their lives, DiT.

Posted by: Viv Lee at October 13, 2012 06:15 PM (oK1U6)

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