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October 12, 2012

Virginia: Seven Point Romney Lead
Romeny 50-46 in... New Hampshire, Per ARG
— Ace

Well, that's before Biden's awesome debate performance moves the polls.

Sarcasm. No, it's not very funny. But I tried.

Slightly.

Maybe a little less than that.

But enough about me, let's talk about a poll.

Now before you bitchez complain, I just dropped a gen-u-ine serious news story. So get off my nuts.

Mitt Romney has taken a commanding 7-point lead over President Barack Obama in another Virginia poll.
According to a McLaughlin & Associates poll that had an R+.02 sample, Romney leads Obama in Virginia 51%-44%.
Among independents, Romney beats Obama by 11 points, 50%-39%.

Rasmussen will be posting VA numbers later.

In Florida (not VA), Rasmussen has it 51-47 (Romney winning), so it seems like two of our must-haves are moving our way. That Rasmussen poll confirms the Mason-Dixon/Tampa Bay Times one yesterday, showing Romney ahead (but by an even larger lead, seven points).

So you will understand why Democrats are so insistent on claiming Senator Clownfart totally rilly won the debate!!11eleventy!

CAC passed a fun little poll on that to me, too, but I'm holding that for now, because I'm spacing my poll-posts out. 'Cuz I'm takin' a half-day, bitchez.

(BTW, the new season of It's Always Sunny In Philadelphia debuted last night. I didn't warn you because I didn't know myself; I caught the last half of the 2am repeat. But I started watching old episodes recently, so everything with me is "bitchez.")

Monte Carlo Simulations: @seanmdav ran some simulations (trial runs) to determine the likelihood of victory based on current poll numbers in swing states.

Note this chart is the likelihood of winning or losing.

It's a big pro-Romney shift.

But also note that Ohio continues to be a real prick. So's Virginia, actually. Even after poll movement, Obama is still narrowly, narrowly favored.

More! ARG finds...

Florida: Romney 49, Obama 46

New Hampshire: Romney 50, Obama 46

New Hampshire? For real?

That's a neat little bonus.

Rasmussen Preview: CAC says Rasmussen will post Virginia Romney 49, Obama 47 when they publish later.

Plus ME2. Maine allocates two of its Electoral votes according to the winner of its two districts. Maine 2, the more Republican district, leans in Romney's favor, by five points.

That's another EV.

Posted by: Ace at 06:50 AM | Comments (204)
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1 First?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 12, 2012 06:56 AM (1Jaio)

2 Biden's brain is a sack filled with spastic worms and Obama is a Stuttering Clusterfuck of a Miserable Failure.

Posted by: Inspector Asshole at October 12, 2012 06:58 AM (jZn+7)

3 ANd remember, the CNN undecideds last night were from VA--and the dial went flat and went negative nearly every time Biden was speaking.

They did not like Biden at all.

While Ryan was constantly getting higher scores from the women.

Posted by: RoyalOil at October 12, 2012 06:58 AM (imtbm)

So you will understand why Democrats are so insistent on claiming Senator Clownfart totally rilly won the debate!!11eleventy!

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He did look like a scary hybrid of Evil Clown and Mean Drunk Irish Uncle. And that's what appeals to the donk base, bless their evil demon possessed hearts.

Posted by: kallisto at October 12, 2012 06:58 AM (jm/9g)

5 Dudes. I have been telling you for months that Virginia is in the Romney bag.

First!

Posted by: J. Moses Browning at October 12, 2012 06:59 AM (i5153)

6 so whats going on in WI? I thought they were sort of a swing state and I do not think Biden's performance endeared him to voters there. They didn't like that kind of boorish behavior when it was directed at Walker.

Posted by: Thunderb at October 12, 2012 06:59 AM (Dnbau)

Senator Clownfart

I like that, it seems to fit

Posted by: On The Outside Looking In at October 12, 2012 07:00 AM (7QZ6R)

8 Now before you bitchez complain, I just dropped a gen-u-ine serious news story. So get off my nuts. Bitching about the content here is 39% of the fun!

Posted by: Truman North at October 12, 2012 07:01 AM (I2LwF)

9 ~ tap tap tap tap tap ~

My understanding from the people on the Left is that Joe Biden handed Paul Ryan his, Ryan's, ass to him, Ryan.

Paul Ryan's muscular, taut ass - the P90X ass.

hmmm

no homo.

Hadji will be in his bunk.
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Posted by: Hadji the Muslim Comic at October 12, 2012 07:01 AM (RuUvx)

10 So most of the action for the next several days should be in Ohio, then.

Posted by: JB at October 12, 2012 07:01 AM (xVcWj)

11 yes, saw these internals yesterday. but from anecdotal evidence on Northern Va (Virginia's own little slice of California), there are virtually no signs of R/R's in yards, but Obama's are everywhere. I hope the person who told me this just saw this in one neighborhood. Northern Va is 1/3 of Va's vote

however, the enthusiasm is the highest its ever been for Rs--I'm hearing this from people who've been in the politicking business for 40 + years.

Posted by: kelley in virginia at October 12, 2012 07:01 AM (HNwOT)

12 Gerg takes one step closer to the ledge.

Posted by: Adam at October 12, 2012 07:02 AM (/YJYi)

13 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable tyrant.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at October 12, 2012 07:02 AM (5DR1j)

14 Senator Clownfart is arguably the most appropriate nickname for that chopper-flashing douche of a VP.

Posted by: Slappy at October 12, 2012 07:02 AM (LTbLf)

15 This election will not be close. You will see the polling companies moving their propaganda to reflect this.

Posted by: Truman North at October 12, 2012 07:02 AM (I2LwF)

16 He who controls the I-4 Corridor controls the universe!

Posted by: The Spice Must Flow! at October 12, 2012 07:02 AM (sOtz/)

17 Ace, Just take the half day off and enjoy it without trying to rationalize it or apologize for it.

Posted by: One of the bitchez at October 12, 2012 07:02 AM (0nogT)

18 11,

I've seen more Romney signs than Obama signs even in deep blue Alexandria. That's what I'm seeing

Posted by: Chris P at October 12, 2012 07:03 AM (LuvqF)

19 Meh, they're going to have trouble spinning it as a true "win" regardless how much they want to.

The polls I've seen of independents and/or voters (i.e. not online polls):
CBS - Biden win (15-20 points)
CNBC - Ryan win (15-20 points)
CNN - Ryan but within MOE, and Tied (RV and Indies for those results)

...

You call that a tie, or a wash, or "no movement"... not "WOOHOO Biden stomped him". This won't tie up the news cycle, I don't see it being "newsy" enough to get viewers.

Posted by: gekkobear at October 12, 2012 07:03 AM (X0NX1)

Posted by: kelley in virginia at October 12, 2012 11:01 AM (HNwOT)

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I live in Fairfax. I haven't seen any signs at all for either candidate. Since I'm fairly confident Obama will win NoVa, I think that's a positive for Romney/Ryan. If Obama's NoVa turnout is depressed, the impact can be marginalized.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at October 12, 2012 07:03 AM (fwARV)

Romney is up 7 with women?

...oh, wait. That says Virginia.

Posted by: garrett at October 12, 2012 07:03 AM (tN/i/)

22 OT:

B. Hussein Obama is so awesome he accomplished as much as most of the continent of Europe combined - Singlehandedly. How about that? /

Posted by: RioBravo at October 12, 2012 07:04 AM (eEfYn)

23 Just because this is a positive poll doesn't make me change my mind that I hate polls and think they are all crap. They are no more accurate than telling someone to pick a number between 45 and 55 and then using that to establish someone's poll numbers.

Posted by: polynikes at October 12, 2012 07:04 AM (m2CN7)

24 Not seeing ANY signs for ANYBODY here in Joisey. It's like there isn't an election coming up.

In 2008, there were signs for both sides all over the place, to excess.

Posted by: trainer @ work at October 12, 2012 07:04 AM (IVoJS)

25 Consider Ohio and Virginia from now on as the Bobsy Twins. If we have one, we have the other.

Posted by: soothsayer already said it at October 12, 2012 07:04 AM (i5gpY)

26 "ANd remember, the CNN undecideds last night were from VA--and the dial went flat and went negative nearly every time Biden was speaking."

I know our liberal Maryland trash was probably galvanized by Crazy Joe, but I can't imagine the polite Virginia and Midwest voters were too impressed.

Posted by: JB at October 12, 2012 07:04 AM (xVcWj)

27 Ryan, I think, hit a home run last night. It wasn't partisans he was playing for, it was undecideds and swing voters. He stayed on message and consistently talked right to them.

When one side is making a play for the middle and the other is making a spectacle for the base, which side do you suppose knows they are winning?

I didn't stick around long enough but, did CNN interview their undecideds later?
What did they say?

It couldn't have been good at all.

I do remember the one Fox undecided saying he was a buffoon.

If you'll recall, Gore's sighs and Kerry's "global test" didn't hurt right away, they festered a few days and then fatally wounded both campaigns.

Posted by: RoyalOil at October 12, 2012 07:05 AM (imtbm)

I think the best analogy for this debate I can come up with is it was a street fight. IÂ’m sure they tried to prepare Ryan for it, and he came in with a game plan. But, before he could even get off the first swing, Biden threw sand in his eyes and kicked him in the dick.

ThatÂ’s what Joe does. He is a dirty fighter, and he has been doing it for a long time. I actually think Ryan did a great job of staying clear of it for most of the time, because he wasnÂ’t going to win that fight. Biden has been doing this kind of thing for a long time.

But, Ryan wasnÂ’t hurt by any of it. Neither was Romney. Everyone knows Ryan is a smart, thoughtful guy. No one will think he is dumb because Joe was laughing at him. That wonÂ’t stick.

Only ObamaÂ’s base will be fired up by what happened. And even that will fade, soon.

Posted by: Giant Orb at October 12, 2012 07:05 AM (va1qF)

29 It's Vice President Assclown , you chump. AHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!

Posted by: Joe Assclown Biden at October 12, 2012 07:05 AM (wzlt7)

30 >>>Ace, Just take the half day off and enjoy it without trying to rationalize it or apologize for it. yeah, I should. Honestly I mostly feel bad for the cobs, who feel the need to cover. They must be tired too. They've got Real Jobz.

Posted by: ace at October 12, 2012 07:05 AM (LCRYB)

Hold Biden responsible for his blatant lies about how he voted on Iraq and Afghanistan!

Posted by: HtP at October 12, 2012 07:05 AM (jx2j9)

32 Half day for Ace because he's on his way to NYCC (dressed as an Ewok).

Posted by: Winston at October 12, 2012 07:05 AM (FggW0)

33 14 Senator Clownfart is arguably the most appropriate nickname for that chopper-flashing douche of a VP.
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I like Ace's "Joey Chompers."

Posted by: edj at October 12, 2012 07:06 AM (+QKfp)

34 I live in a suburb of Seattle, a fairly blue area of the country. In my neighborhood I have seen two Romney signs and zero Obama signs. Even the two houses with signs for the Democratic state and local candidates and issues don't have Obama signs in their yards.

Posted by: not the mama at October 12, 2012 07:06 AM (kzCIn)

35 Biden - 82 Raddatz - 31 82 + 31 = 113 Debate - 90 minutes. 113 times Ryan was interrupted. He was battling two people. Ryan still won. MATH use it.

Posted by: Micihgan and Oiho at October 12, 2012 07:06 AM (I8Oh8)

36 I commented yesterday that I was reasonably confident of three things, one of which was that this debate would not have any appreciable effect on the overall race.

I think I was wrong. The only people who will appreciate Biden's obnoxious performance are those who were already deeply and irrevocably committed to voting for Obama/Biden. It's more than an educated guess to say that Independents/Undecideds were completely put off by Biden - especially women.

Look for the wave of Independents/Undecided that was already moving to Romney/Ryan (see the Florida polls which went from O +11 to R +13) increase, and the female gender cap to close, if not reverse.

Posted by: angler at October 12, 2012 07:06 AM (SwjAj)

37 I did see a sign in Jersey said "I built my business" and one each for Obama and Romney. That's it. Even in this deep blue state that will go for Obama they're not really excited about choom boy.

Posted by: One of the bitchez at October 12, 2012 07:07 AM (0nogT)

38 I think southerners and midwesterners are really turned off by rudeness. I do not think Senator Clownfarts helped the cause there, and that matters in places like VA, FL, WI, and IA

Posted by: Thunderb at October 12, 2012 07:07 AM (Dnbau)

39 Ace, if you really want to get on our good side tell us that those numbers are for Pennsylvania.

Posted by: Decaf at October 12, 2012 07:07 AM (N8E86)

40 Democrats think whoever shouts the loudest and is the biggest asshole wins. Its bad manners and arrogant in the middle and south of the country. Might play well in NY or Portland... goes over like a lead balloon every where else.

Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at October 12, 2012 07:07 AM (DGIjM)

41 Honestly I mostly feel bad for the cobs, who feel the need to cover. They must be tired too. They've got Real Jobz.

Posted by: ace at October 12, 2012 11:05 AM (LCRYB)

No, no, no.....do keep talking about how YOU feel about the cobs.

(Am I getting the hang of this?)

Posted by: Tami at October 12, 2012 07:07 AM (X6akg)

42 Ace is feeling motivated these days.

Enthusiastic.

Like we're going to start seeing shredders glowing red-hot 24 hours a day at the Obama White House even before Election Day.

Like the trucks will start showing up at all the Executive Branch offices around November 1 to cart away hard disks for secure destruction.

Posted by: JEM at October 12, 2012 07:09 AM (o+SC1)

43 No, no, no.....do keep talking about how YOU feel about the cobs.

(Am I getting the hang of this?)

Posted by: Tami at October 12, 2012 11:07 AM (X6akg)

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Haha. ZING!

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at October 12, 2012 07:09 AM (fwARV)

While Ryan was constantly getting higher scores from the women.

Didn't I read somewhere that women were more inclined to Biden and the men to Ryan?

Posted by: Decaf at October 12, 2012 07:09 AM (N8E86)

45 Wait...Ace is all fired up because he's going to leave us early.

Posted by: Redd at October 12, 2012 07:09 AM (guxHP)

46 We're five times bigger than Libya now? So where's all this land Joe Biden just gave us? This is a big fucking deal.

Posted by: Syria at October 12, 2012 07:09 AM (R18D0)

47 Though the VP debate was a wash from a tactical debating sense, Ryan benefits longterm from his cool under pressure. Biden and Raddatz did all they could to fluster Ryan into forgetting or gaffing and he did neither. And all the outtakes make Biden look manic. So I have a feeling that the debate will be more positive for Ryan as time goes on, at least among undecideds (the only people who matter really at this point).

Posted by: Beagle at October 12, 2012 07:09 AM (sOtz/)

48 CAC passed a fun little poll on that to me, too, but I'm holding that for now, because I'm spacing my poll-posts out. 'Cuz I'm takin' a half-day, bitchez. ace, ace, ace, go meta and stomp on your own poll post with another poll post. You know you want to. Also I hope that whatever your doing on your half day will end up with pancakes.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra impact. at October 12, 2012 07:10 AM (VtjlW)

49 Posted by: ace at October 12, 2012 11:05 AM (LCRYB)

You could give me the keys.... I promise I won't trash the place...

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at October 12, 2012 07:10 AM (5DR1j)

50 But what about Mitt Romney's gaaaaaaaaffeeeeessss??!!??

Posted by: DangerGirl (@deadlyestrogen) at October 12, 2012 07:10 AM (F1lOF)

51 Rasmussen Virginia Romney 49-47 sample D+1.

Posted by: VBJonny at October 12, 2012 07:10 AM (bED4B)

Hey I caught the last half of the 2am broadcast of the same "Sunny" episode. Did you come in on the part where Dee and Dennis were screening the old 16mm films of their Nazi-emigre grandfather taking them as pre-teens to a Brownshirt youth/family summer camp?

Hope they keep the McPoyle Brothers characters in the new season -- Liam says "bitchez" with such creepy aplomb.

Posted by: RamonAllones at October 12, 2012 07:10 AM (3lLli)

He who controls the I-4 Corridor controls the universe!

I've been seeing more and more R and R signs around the neighborhood here. And I've been talking to my leftie music buds, most of whom voted for TFG in '08 against my sage advice to them. Nearly every one of them has lost their jobs since, many have lost their homes, and the few that still have jobs are very nervous.

I predicted that FL would turn bright red, especially after the Great Blowout of '010. It's nice to be right once in a while. And I'm going to predict that we'll see something of a Chick-Fil-A Revolution in a few weeks the likes of which haven't been seen in a long time. It will be a smackdown, a repudiation, an ass-whuppin' of near-Biblical proportions, one that will set back the Dims for a few years at least.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 12, 2012 07:10 AM (lOmbq)

54 Apparently Lindsey Lohan has tweeted that despite her 2008 vote for Obama, she will vote for Romney this time. When you've lost the Hollywood addict/pervert/slut vote, you've lost America.

Posted by: WalrusRex at October 12, 2012 07:10 AM (Hx5uv)

55 Biden couldn't attend that roach eating contest down in FL as he was afraid he would be eaten.

So he shouted at an ice cream cone until it melted.

Then it was nap time, as the nurse gave him something 'to help you sleep'. She actually phrased it as 'shut the fuck up!'

Posted by: from the Joe Biden files at October 12, 2012 07:10 AM (ccXZP)

56 I have seen no Obama yard signs, and lately have been seeing quite a few R/R signs. However, and this is what concerns me, I did see for the first time yesterday an Obama 2012 and I heart Obamacare sticker on the same car. Do you know where I live? GA! We're doomed!!!

Posted by: Adam Channelling Gerg at October 12, 2012 07:10 AM (/YJYi)

57 Kelley, I live in falls church and work in Alexandria. Two deep blue areas. Obama signs are starting to pop p, but they are still outmatched by Romney signs. If NOVA turnout is depressed below 2008 levels Kaine and Obama are toast. Same issue in the tidewater, Obama is hurting in Norfolk, Virginia Beach, etc. - he needs 2008 turnout down there as well.

Posted by: Jean at October 12, 2012 07:10 AM (74T7W)

58 No offense to any morons and ettes living in Ohio, but having that one state determine the future of the US presidents is stupid. The other 49 (or 56 if you prefer) states aren't the same as Ohio.

Posted by: EC at October 12, 2012 07:11 AM (GQ8sn)

59 umm, why has the chicken disappeared from the sidebar...does that account for the 1/2 day?

Posted by: Thunderb at October 12, 2012 07:11 AM (Dnbau)

60 Well my fellow morons/ettes, Couldn't watch debate last night but I recorded it and just watched . WTF was going on with Biden and those faces? And that Ratfish Woman. Luckily I saw it today with only coffee in me. If it had been last night there would have been no valuerite left and I would be needing a new TV,

Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna at October 12, 2012 07:11 AM (9+ccr)

61 Senator Clownfart totally rilly won the debate!!11eleventy!

That's Vice-President Clownfart totally rilly won the debate!!11eleventy!

Posted by: Jim Matthews at October 12, 2012 07:11 AM (e8kgV)

62 Mitt is winning nicely, but one more drive that scores a touchdown and chews up half of the 4th quarter would seal the deal quite well. It helps that the other team fumbles every time they get the ball.

Posted by: eman at October 12, 2012 07:11 AM (+XD7n)

ARG

NH Romney 50/Obama 46

FL Romney 49/Obama 46

At least that's what the guys at Race42012 are saying. ARG's site is down so I can't confirm that.

Posted by: JC at October 12, 2012 07:11 AM (KDDG+)

64 At least now we know why it's called VICE-president

Posted by: Hugh Hefner at October 12, 2012 07:12 AM (e8kgV)

65 @ 40 It was rude as hell. Politics and debate aside, as a plain old viewer, I wanted to hear Ryan's answers. I don't get to see much of him and I was pissed that Biden/Raddatz kept interrupting him. It was waaayyy over the top. It was annoying. Nothing like pissing off the your viewers.

Posted by: Micihgan and Oiho at October 12, 2012 07:12 AM (I8Oh8)

66 So where's Gerg Wolf and his army of ever-changing hashes?

Posted by: mediumheadboy at October 12, 2012 07:12 AM (aHR5E)

67 Seriously, my next door neighbor has eight signs on her lawn for Democrats (Inslee for governor, vote no on charter schools, a bunch of other local guys) and not one Obama sign.

Posted by: not the mama at October 12, 2012 07:12 AM (kzCIn)

68 There's more talk here about when people get off work than a Kroger checkout lane.

Posted by: Kwame at October 12, 2012 07:12 AM (CaWgq)

69 Mitt takes MA.

Posted by: eman at October 12, 2012 07:13 AM (+XD7n)

70 Does anyone think Lindsey Lohan would pass a "likely voter" screen?

Posted by: Nicholas Kronos at October 12, 2012 07:13 AM (h9gW0)

71 35 113 times Ryan was interrupted.
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Since Ryan got to speak for only 40 minutes, he was interrupted over 2.8 times a minute.

And yet he kept his focus. I don't know how he did it.

Posted by: edj at October 12, 2012 07:14 AM (+QKfp)

72 I've built a robot to pudding-dip 'em for me. The manual way is getting too time consuming. Besides, I'm sick of them being so lustrous and chocolatey.

Posted by: Emperor of Icecream at October 12, 2012 07:14 AM (ZMzpb)

Joe Beavis Biden

http://tinyurl.com/8cy3w7m

Posted by: CJ at October 12, 2012 07:14 AM (9KqcB)

74 And yet he kept his focus. I don't know how he did it. --- He's just That. Damn. Good.

Posted by: mediumheadboy at October 12, 2012 07:15 AM (aHR5E)

>>Dudes. I have been telling you for months that Virginia is in the Romney bag.<<

The number of Romney/Ryan signs and bumperstickers far outnumber the McCain/Palin signs and bumperstickers. Not as many Obama signs as in 2008.

And this is in Fairfax County - bluest of Virginia counties.

Posted by: MacGruber at October 12, 2012 07:15 AM (xvtYZ)

76 >>When one side is making a play for the middle and the other is making a spectacle for the base, which side do you suppose knows they are winning?

That's an excellent point. Biden employed this bombastic strategy for a reason. It was a choice (he's capable of controlling himself - as he did against Palin) not a forgone conclusion.

If you attribute logic and reason to this choice (maybe unwisely with this crew), then it could have only been made because Obama/Biden know, through their own polling, that they are in very real trouble with their base.

It's like Obama/Biden are still trying to secure their pit crew, while Romney/Ryan are out on the track, searching for Independents and Undecideds, having already secured their base.

Posted by: angler at October 12, 2012 07:15 AM (SwjAj)

77 Wasn't somebody saying something about a great jobs report?

Posted by: eman at October 12, 2012 07:15 AM (+XD7n)

78 People will see Ryan as a reasonable VP choice. I don't see that this moves the needle though; we already have Biden so he can't make it any worse... Says conventional wisdom.

Posted by: Truman North at October 12, 2012 07:15 AM (I2LwF)

79 The Dems were all drunk on Uncle Joe's Sour Mash Whiskey last night.

This morning, they are waking up to one hell of a hangover.

Last night: They were buying rounds, challenging everyone to an arm wrestling match, kept trying to tell us about that time in high school and wanting to plan a trip to Mexico.

This morning, their credit card just got declined for cigs, they're out of coffee, everyone is ignoring their texts and a construction crew just started jackhammering out the sidewalk out front.

In a few days, the girl they were hitting on last night will see them coming and quickly turn the other way.

Maybe a friend will tell them how big an ass they were last night. But probably not, because Uncle Joe dropped off a whole case of his Sour Mash Whiskey.

Posted by: RoyalOil at October 12, 2012 07:16 AM (imtbm)

80 What's wrong with Oiho (sic)? Are they holding out for something?

Posted by: Tonic Dog at October 12, 2012 07:16 AM (X/+QT)

81 The debate strategies employed by each side last night tell you more definitively about the state of the race than all the media polls combined. Which side acted like they were in the lead, and which side acted like they desperately wanted to shake things up? I'm glad to see these polls, but I think it is already obvious what the campaign's internal polling (which I trust as more reliable) is telling them.

Posted by: Matt at October 12, 2012 07:16 AM (ljiM/)

82 67 Seriously, my next door neighbor has eight signs on her lawn for Democrats (Inslee for governor, vote no on charter schools, a bunch of other local guys) and not one Obama sign. Posted by: not the mama at October 12, 2012 11:12 AM (kzCIn) I do work in a union strong hold town in Indiana. There are 3 Obama signs. Thats it. There are signs for the D candidate for Gov.. the D Candidate for Senate.. but for Obama.. a total of 3. and.. there are more Republican signs than democrat. Its unreal.

Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at October 12, 2012 07:16 AM (DGIjM)

83 Paul Ryan vs the Ceaser Romero Joker at the debate last night.
http://www.powerlineblog.com/admin/ed-assets/2012/10/BidenJoker2-copy.jpg

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 12, 2012 07:17 AM (9dIqT)

84 Wait...Ace is all fired up because he's going to leave us early. Posted by: Redd

Even though daddy doesn't have a job, he needs to leave the house sometimes. But when he comes back, why is he always covered in blood and stinking of booze, cheap perfume and lady parts?

Posted by: Dang© - crying into his pillow at October 12, 2012 07:17 AM (R18D0)

85 smell ya later, homos time for victuals

Posted by: soothsayer already said it at October 12, 2012 07:17 AM (xTbtA)

86 screaming antics are for conventions, not debates. They were trying to get out their base, at this late date, and not gain new ground. They are losing. They know it.

Posted by: Thunderb at October 12, 2012 07:18 AM (Dnbau)

87 I'm getting the feeling America isn't buying all the:

UNEXPECTEDLY AMAZING AND AWESOME ECONOMIC NUMBERS EVEN THE MOST BIASED OF ECONOMISTS COULDN'T HAVE POSSIBLY PREDICTED BULLSHIT.

Posted by: Bill Mitchell at October 12, 2012 07:18 AM (hlUJY)

Apparently Lindsey Lohan has tweeted that despite her 2008 vote for Obama, she will vote for Romney this time.

When was she lucid enough to work out who else was in the race? Is someone trying to sabotage her rehabilitation into the Hollywood fold?

Posted by: Decaf at October 12, 2012 07:18 AM (N8E86)

89 Landslide.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at October 12, 2012 07:18 AM (evdj2)

90 75, Fairfax Co is Texas compared to Fals Church, Arlington, and Alexandria

Posted by: Jean at October 12, 2012 07:18 AM (hrAg/)

91 You would think that Obama and Biden each could handle one single unscripted, unedited meeting with reality in four years, but no.... They've undone all of our work.

Posted by: The MFM at October 12, 2012 07:18 AM (FcR7P)

92 For the third time today, Joe plucked it out and ate it before I could stop him.

So, no more rectal thermometers for him.

Posted by: from the Joe Biden files at October 12, 2012 07:19 AM (ccXZP)

93 I added a bunch of poll updates. Some are in the comments already, but some aren't.

Posted by: ace at October 12, 2012 07:19 AM (LCRYB)

94 According to a McLaughlin & Associates poll that had an R+.02 sample, Romney leads Obama in Virginia 51%-44%.

Hah! Any poll that uses less than a D+20 spread fails to accurately reflect the red hot enthusiasm of Democrat voters to restore the Hero of Abbotabad and Dollhead Boy to power.

Posted by: Gergus Minimus at October 12, 2012 07:20 AM (pwyhn)

95 One good thing about the debate is that Biden is an old white guy, so the late shows will have a field day with his bizzare performance, and the people who watch those shows will have to sit and watch it.

Posted by: Up up with people! at October 12, 2012 07:20 AM (kzFo5)

96 Is a half-day longer or shorter than normal? I don't know whether to tell you to enjoy the time off or tell you not to worry, because you'll get through it.

Posted by: Whoever this is, it's definitely not Michael at October 12, 2012 07:20 AM (JVCVF)

97 Jonah Goldberg snark:

Joe Biden Veterinarian: "Hi Timmy, your dog HA HA HA HA is dead HA HA!"

Posted by: WalrusRex at October 12, 2012 07:21 AM (Hx5uv)

98 54 Apparently Lindsey Lohan has tweeted that despite her 2008 vote for Obama, she will vote for Romney this time. When you've lost the Hollywood addict/pervert/slut vote, you've lost America.

Posted by: WalrusRex at October 12, 2012 11:10 AM (Hx5uv)

I checked her timeline....can't find that.

Do you have a link or source?

Posted by: Tami at October 12, 2012 07:21 AM (X6akg)

99 Like we're going to start seeing shredders glowing red-hot 24 hours a day at the Obama White House even before Election Day. Like the trucks will start showing up at all the Executive Branch offices around November 1 to cart away hard disks for secure destruction. Ahem. I think it's time to break this out again: Are you looking to streamline your document management processes? Do you want to help the environment while making sure that no unnecessary paper is wastefully being stored at your facilities? We at Surely Helping Reduce Environmental Destruction (SHRED) are here to help! We at SHRED are able to handle any job, no matter how large or small. SHRED is committed to maintaining its client's confidentiality, no matter what. Do you need several tractor trailers' worth of documents taken to a facility where the paper will be returned to carbon? SHRED can help! Do you need emergency services at 2:30 a.m.? Have no fear, SHRED's teams will be there, no questions asked. SHRED works closely with our clients to eliminate any possibility that documents that absolutely, positively must be permanently recycled have no chance of suddenly reappearing. SHRED not only provides document management services, but also can assist in dealing with electromagnetic pulses hitting non-hardened servers and causing your firm's electronic documents to also disappear for good. Stop worrying and let SHRED take care of your dirty work.* *SHRED is a wholly owned subsidiary of Happy Fun.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra impact. at October 12, 2012 07:21 AM (VtjlW)

100 R/R in Lancaster, Ohio late this afternoon! Fairfield County Fair being held this week in Lancaster. Locals don't like rudeness and Joe didn't do Obama any favors last night.

Posted by: Ohio 43130 at October 12, 2012 07:21 AM (OiC7K)

101 leBolt the dolt

Posted by: Thunderb at October 12, 2012 07:21 AM (Dnbau)

102 I watched 30 seconds of the debate. It was the 30 seconds where Biden was really freakin' annoying, and laughed and smirked and interrupted Ryan.

Posted by: Whoever this is, it's definitely not Michael at October 12, 2012 07:21 AM (JVCVF)

103 They didn't like that kind of boorish behavior when it was directed at Walker.

Posted by: Thunderb at October 12, 2012 10:59 AM (Dnbau)

What's going on is that they sample Dane County and not much else. Dane County is slightly to the left of Mussolini.

Posted by: tcn at October 12, 2012 07:22 AM (ZOUmX)

104 BTW, the new season of It's Always Sunny In Philadelphia debuted last night. I didn't warn you because I didn't know myself; I caught the last half of the 2am repeat. But I started watching old episodes recently, so everything with me is "bitchez.

OK, that's cool. We draw the line at crack addiction though.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 12, 2012 07:22 AM (SY2Kh)

105 Biden - 82
Raddatz - 31

82 + 31 = 113

Debate - 90 minutes.

113 times Ryan was interrupted. He was battling two people. Ryan still won.

MATH use it. Posted by: Micihgan and Oiho

Where did you get the stats? I really want to see how many times RatAss interrupted Biden and how much more Biden was allowed to jabber.

Posted by: Dang© at October 12, 2012 07:23 AM (R18D0)

106

I watched 30 seconds of the debate.
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That pretty much qualifies as watching the whole debate. The other 89 min. 30 sec. was the same maniacle laughing over the condition of the country.

Posted by: Up up with people! at October 12, 2012 07:24 AM (kzFo5)

107 Ben Labolt doing his best to sound credible as he says "preposterous" that people could conceivably think Biden came out looking like an expert asshole in last night's debate.

Posted by: HtP at October 12, 2012 07:24 AM (jx2j9)

108 @71 Since Ryan got to speak for only 40 minutes, he was interrupted over 2.8 times a minute. Aah...MATH...Well done grasshopper.

Posted by: Micihgan and Oiho at October 12, 2012 07:24 AM (I8Oh8)

109 My ulta liberal sparring partner, who always seems to need a loan from his evil Teabagger friend..is quite sure Clownfart kicked Ryans ass last night. I told him he is a dickweed.

Posted by: beerologist at October 12, 2012 07:24 AM (CdhVC)

110 I want to see some movement in PA and OH.

Posted by: TD at October 12, 2012 07:25 AM (+uFux)

111 VA is tight Obama illegally keeping defense contractors from complying with the WARN act maybe helping him there.

Posted by: bannor, voting Mittens and the Math Witch at October 12, 2012 07:25 AM (HEa5q)

112 @105 Where did you get the stats? Drudge Report

Posted by: Micihgan and Oiho at October 12, 2012 07:25 AM (I8Oh8)

113 I watched 30 seconds of the debate.

It was the 30 seconds where Biden was really freakin' annoying, and laughed and smirked and interrupted Ryan.

That summarizes the remaining 89 min 30 seconds you didn't watch. The only thing you missed was the freaking "moderator" joining in to interrupt Ryan on Biden's behalf.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 12, 2012 07:25 AM (SY2Kh)

114 44 While Ryan was constantly getting higher scores from the women.

Didn't I read somewhere that women were more inclined to Biden and the men to Ryan?
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That's generally the case, that the women prefer the Dems.

But, it was so strange last night, they dial for the CNN undecided women was almost always higher than the men when Ryan was speaking, some times, a huge gap.

And, as I said, at the same time it was brutal for Biden. The only times he got positive reactions was when he was speaking quietly and not attacking.

Biden's debate last night will turn gangrenous by Monday, watch.

Posted by: RoyalOil at October 12, 2012 07:26 AM (imtbm)

115 Fairfax Co is Texas compared to Fals Church, Arlington, and Alexandria

Sadly. Yes.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at October 12, 2012 07:26 AM (sbV1u)

116 My husband works in the aviation industry. There was an accident and he had to notify the family. He was devastated. But he held it together to help the family. He didn't laugh. I do not care if it was a nervous tic, or a strategy, I do not understand how Biden laughed about Benghazi. At. All.

Posted by: Thunderb at October 12, 2012 07:26 AM (Dnbau)

117 We draw the line at crack addiction though.

ISWYDT

My wife is not nearly as political as I am, and she was definitely put off by Biden's antics. She doesn't agree with his politics already, though, so that might have had something to do with it.

Those of you with "independent," LIV, or democrat spouses/significant others: what did they think of Biden last night?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at October 12, 2012 07:26 AM (5DR1j)

118 Still trying to energize that base, Joe? Have you seen the calendar?

Posted by: Dang© at October 12, 2012 07:26 AM (R18D0)

119 Caught Joe dumpster diving for used Depends again last night.

Note: Order a lockable trash can.

Posted by: from the Joe Biden files at October 12, 2012 07:26 AM (ccXZP)

120 11 yes, saw these internals yesterday. but from anecdotal evidence on Northern Va (Virginia's own little slice of California), there are virtually no signs of R/R's in yards, but Obama's are everywhere. I hope the person who told me this just saw this in one neighborhood. Northern Va is 1/3 of Va's vote

Hmm. This is the exact opposite of my observations. What you report is what it looked like in 2008, with 0bama signs probably 10 to 1 over McCain, or more. This year, it is probably reversed, and has been that way for months. NoVa is large though, I am talking about McLean, Annandale, Fairfax, Falls Church. I am sure that Arlington and Alexandria are pro-0bama, but that is no surprise.

Posted by: Matt at October 12, 2012 07:26 AM (ljiM/)

121 recently, so everything with me is "bitchez. Don't watch Breaking Bad at the same time! (Biiiiitch) Checked out DKos a little more this morning to see if there was any intrusion of non-tin foil hat community thought. Nope! I am tremendously thankful that the bloggers here post all relevant data, not just the stuff we want to see. In a poll "aggregation" post over there, you'd think that CBS was the only channel who polled about the VP debate... You'd also think that it's all roses for Elizabeth Warren, and that Obama had a crushing lead in FL.

Posted by: James at October 12, 2012 07:27 AM (IbRel)

122 Wow. The chick on Fox just shoved a cork in the fact checkers asses.

Posted by: HtP at October 12, 2012 07:27 AM (jx2j9)

123 In Maine, popular "independent" Angus King has been revealed as an Obama crony, and that's dragging him down. Expect to see Maine completely red on Election Day.

Posted by: Truman North at October 12, 2012 07:28 AM (I2LwF)

124 *SHRED is a wholly owned subsidiary of Happy Fun.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra impact. at October 12, 2012 11:21 AM (VtjlW)

Oh yeah! We haven't heard from Happy Fun in a long time.

Posted by: Jay in Ames at October 12, 2012 07:28 AM (i2Lsf)

125

I really wish the rest of the country did Electoral College votes like Maine does....

I live in California... and the candidates have not even bothered to run here... its like we don't matter....

And this district? Central Valley California? would almost definatly go Romney.

We need a debate post election, about the whole election process...

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 12, 2012 07:28 AM (lZBBB)

126 Apparently Lindsey Lohan has tweeted that despite her 2008 vote for
Obama, she will vote for Romney this time. When you've lost the
Hollywood addict/pervert/slut vote, you've lost America.

Posted by: WalrusRex at October 12, 2012 11:10 AM (Hx5uv)

I checked her timeline....can't find that.

Do you have a link or source?

Posted by: Tami at October 12, 2012 11:21 AM (X6akg)

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Bonus! Absolutely horrifying photo of the Lohanster.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/9j43cqc

Posted by: WalrusRex at October 12, 2012 07:28 AM (Hx5uv)

127 Drudge Report
Posted by: Micihgan and Oiho

What's that? Kidding! Got it, thanks!

Posted by: Dang© at October 12, 2012 07:28 AM (R18D0)

128 Stolen quote: It was like Joker vs Robin.

Posted by: Tonic Dog at October 12, 2012 07:28 AM (X/+QT)

129 RadBitch knew that she could be totally partisan and abusive to Ryan, and the media would cover for her and tell her she was great, etc. She she did just that

I couldn't watch; I read the comments, and imagined it. When I actually watched parts of the debate later, it was exactly as described / imagined

Ryan passed The Test, and that's all that matters. Biden masturbated the Kos Kids put annoyed everyone else. No one votes for VP...

Posted by: Isaac Davis White at October 12, 2012 07:28 AM (Dll6b)

130 Although Biden was hideous, in some odd way he pulled off a tour de force that was enabled only by years of experience and by an almost inhuman devotion to his cause.

We may look back at him in this debate years from now and say, "In its purest form, that is what a politician is. That is what a politician does. Now run screaming from this vision of hell."

Posted by: edj at October 12, 2012 07:28 AM (+QKfp)

131

Joe Biden is Joe Biden.

And that is the crux of the problem.

Posted by: HtP at October 12, 2012 07:28 AM (jx2j9)

132

How are we going to win NH when this "Romeny" fellow already has 50%?

Posted by: Concerned NH Voter at October 12, 2012 07:29 AM (ggRof)

133 Who do I talk to about getting even more of these MFM/DNC-moderated debates?

Posted by: Star Khan Reince Priebus at October 12, 2012 07:29 AM (FcR7P)

134 Biden's debate last night will turn gangrenous by Monday, watch.

Posted by: RoyalOil

Lots of women were turned off by Clownfart. That's a demo that RR need, so maybe a big win for them.

Posted by: Roy at October 12, 2012 07:29 AM (VndSC)

135 any depression of Dem enthusiasm in NoVa will be great for the R/R. I'm also hoping for epic (unexpected!) snowstorm on Election Day

Posted by: kelley in virginia at October 12, 2012 07:29 AM (HNwOT)

136

Speaking for Oiho, we aren't pricks.

Ohio (like Missouri) is a good cross-section of the entire populace of the country. Not one huge urban area (like Chicago, New York City or LA) but a lot of 'urban' voters.

A lot of rural voters.

Country western types. Factory guys. Immigrants. Academics. Long time Americans (my mother's ancestors came to Ohio 200 years ago), descendents of recent immigrants (my wife's grandfather was born in Italy at the turn of the 20th century). Veterans, Leftists, bad drivers, dogs and cats living together.

It's no surprise that the polls have the vote as "close". But it is probably not quite as close as the pollsters divine it.

Romney - Ryan win Ohio by 125k - 175k votes (out of 5.5M - 6M cast) , come Election Day.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes....Free Kratos!! at October 12, 2012 07:29 AM (RFeQD)

137 And that Ratfish Woman.... Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna at October 12, 2012 11:11 AM

This deserves a Premium Membership to the HQ. At least.

Posted by: MrScribbler, banned at TepidAir at October 12, 2012 07:29 AM (ZgX/g)

138

I do not care if it was a nervous tic, or a strategy, I do not understand how Biden laughed about Benghazi. At. All.

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I don't know what was more offensive, the maniacle laughing or the crocodile tear act that interspersed the manaicle laughing.

Posted by: Up up with people! at October 12, 2012 07:29 AM (kzFo5)

139 "there are virtually no signs of R/R's in yards, but Obama's are everywhere" Im in NoVA too. we're down in the sign count in my neighborhood, but not nearly to the extent as 4 years ago. it's the same people plus some new ones who had McCain signs. number of 0 signs well off 2008. the key to VA for GOP is don't lose big in NoVa. lose 55-45, not 60-40 or worse.

Posted by: DCPensFan at October 12, 2012 07:29 AM (ma/2m)

140 *SHRED is a wholly owned subsidiary of Happy Fun.Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra impact. at October 12, 2012 11:21 AM (VtjlW)

I think it's time a James Bond movie was made with Happy Fun Industries Â® as the villain.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at October 12, 2012 07:30 AM (sbV1u)

141

So, um, Mr. Fur, when you leave us for your siesta, howzabout a music thread? You can blame me, since I start celebrating my birthday around midnight tonight at a gig (it's tomorrow).

And we should have a few reasons to be cautiously optimistic, given the events of the past couple of weeks. Not cocky, but I do have warm feelings in my swimsuit area. Oh wait, that's something else...

Pudding is at the ready, I've almost poked enough holes in the cap of the Valu-Rite bottle (it welded itself to the plastic bottle part, again) to get it to pour, and I feel the overwhelming urge to shave LauraW's hump.

Do you feel like I do?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 12, 2012 07:31 AM (lOmbq)

142 "Intense?" A Repo man is always "intense".

Posted by: J. Biden, VP at October 12, 2012 07:31 AM (3ZtZW)

143 During the debate wifey commented on Biden's angry performance.

You would think he has a PHD in angry woman studies, the way he was carrying on.

Posted by: sTevo at October 12, 2012 07:32 AM (lbG8b)

144

@ 58,80

Don't count us "Oiho" morons out just yet. We may surprise you...I hope.

Posted by: Itchytriggerfinger at October 12, 2012 07:32 AM (zsppm)

145 Well, I've had the RR sticker on the car for almost 3 weeks now and it hasn't been vandalized yet. :knocks on forehead : In Philly, that saying something.

Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at October 12, 2012 07:32 AM (gs4xf)

146 Ohio (like Missouri)

Are you sure it's a good idea to compare yourself to Missouri?

/superior Iowa resident

Posted by: Jay in Ames at October 12, 2012 07:32 AM (i2Lsf)

147 All that worrying about how great a debater Biden is seems a tad overwrought this morning, no? Biden is an ass. He's always been an ass. He will always be an ass. Last night the donks showed their ass to America.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 12, 2012 07:33 AM (TMB3S)

148 Do you feel like I do?Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 12, 2012 11:31 AM (lOmbq)

I'm hearing Peter Frampton in my mindstadium

Posted by: Sean Bannion at October 12, 2012 07:33 AM (sbV1u)

149 So you will understand why Democrats are so insistent on claiming Senator Clownfart totally rilly won the debate!!11eleventy!

Show some respect. He's vice president Clownfart

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 12, 2012 07:33 AM (1Jaio)

150 Joe Biden is Joe Biden.

And that is the crux of the problem.

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And we should all be thanking Martha for helping America to see that.

Posted by: WalrusRex at October 12, 2012 07:34 AM (Hx5uv)

151 superior Iowa resident Posted by: Jay in Ames at October 12, 2012 11:32 AM (i2Lsf) Is Iowa going for Romney?

Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at October 12, 2012 07:34 AM (DGIjM)

152 There can be only one.

Posted by: soothsayer already said it at October 12, 2012 07:34 AM (DMwFZ)

153 New Hampshire: Romney 50, Obama 46

New Hampshire? For real?

NOOOOOooooo.... not our PRECIOUS you can't have it. Dr Paul is winning NH our Internet poll said so!!!

It's a conspiracy!!!

Posted by: RON PAUL IS THE ONLY MAN WHO CAN SAVE AMERIKKA at October 12, 2012 07:34 AM (SY2Kh)

154 No Bias at all... http://tinyurl.com/9r3eff2 As the records show, that day Raddatz visited the VPR (or, the vice president's residence) for a "Women's History Month Reception." That record was released on June 29, 2012.

Posted by: cajun carrot at October 12, 2012 07:35 AM (UZQM8)

155 "Intense?" A Repo man is always "intense". Posted by: J. Biden, VP at October 12, 2012 11:31 AM

"That's why Repo Men take speed...."

Posted by: MrScribbler, banned at TepidAir at October 12, 2012 07:35 AM (ZgX/g)

156 If you run a company that has a contract with an Executive Branch agency to do document shredding or secure destruction of electronics/computers, you now have an opportunity to serve your country in a manner not afforded to many. Think Joshua Chamberlain at Missionary Ridge. Think McAuliffe at the Bulge. Think Daniel Ellsberg if you must.

All you have to do is put the stuff in a warehouse until the end of January.

Posted by: JEM at October 12, 2012 07:35 AM (o+SC1)

157 Last weekend I tried to order a sweet tea in Missouri. Got slapped down. Hard.

Seems they consider themselves part of the midwest or something, and not Northern Arkansas.

Posted by: edj at October 12, 2012 07:35 AM (+QKfp)

158 But Intrade has Obama up by 20%!!!!!!

Posted by: In before the troll at October 12, 2012 07:36 AM (TIIx5)

159 8 Now before you bitchez complain, I just dropped a gen-u-ine serious news story. So get off my nuts. Bitching about the content here is 39% of the fun! + or - 3 points.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 12, 2012 07:36 AM (GFM2b)

160

Ohio is not "like" Missouri in a lot of ways, but the two states both have a good cross-section of the populace voting in those states.

They are 'bellweather' states.

And Iowa is full of feed lots, corn and ethanol grubbers.

Except the college towns like Ames that are full of academic leftists.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes....Free Kratos!! at October 12, 2012 07:36 AM (RFeQD)

161 So Suffolk U was right, FL VA NC all done deals.

Ohio damnit, get'r done

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at October 12, 2012 07:37 AM (wR+pz)

162

Well, I've had the RR sticker on the car for almost 3 weeks now and it hasn't been vandalized yet. :knocks on forehead : In Philly, that saying something.

They think your bumper sticker is sarcasm.

Posted by: CJ at October 12, 2012 07:37 AM (9KqcB)

163 I'm always a season behind IASIP, because they release the dvds so late. Starting the new season the same week as you release the previous is not a good business plan. I don't understand why tv shows aren't released almost immediately after they conclude. There are plenty of people like me who ONLY watch dvds of shows. No dvr, no netflix, no whateverthehecktheycallit website that supposedly has stuff online.

DV freakin' Ds! Release them!!

Soooo... I still don't understand fat Mac. He's thinner again, right?

Posted by: BurtTC at October 12, 2012 07:38 AM (BeSEI)

164 Last weekend I tried to order a sweet tea in Missouri. Got slapped down. Hard.

Seems they consider themselves part of the midwest or something, and not Northern Arkansas.

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Just this morning in the gym one of the guys was complaining about Southern tea. He said you (or "you all" in genuine Southern) put so much sugar in it the spoon stands up by itself.

Posted by: WalrusRex at October 12, 2012 07:38 AM (Hx5uv)

165 Joe got pretty agitated today when the Nuclear Security guys came today to do his Football verification protocols. Joe wanted to know why he couldn't have a retinal scan like the president.

They explained that his eyes twitched too much. That's why they used an anus scan, because "There's no mistaking that asshole".

Had to give him another sleepy time shot.

Posted by: from the Joe Biden files at October 12, 2012 07:38 AM (ccXZP)

166 Is Iowa going for Romney?

I honestly don't know. Seems Teh Won is up in the polls, but the enthusiasm for him is down. I'm in a blue college town, and TFG signs outnumber R-R signs 7-1.

But in 2008 they outnumbered McCain signs 10-1. Rural areas are as red as Texas, but not many people there. Western Iowa is GOP, Eastern is Dem, Eastern has more people. It can go so many ways here, it's truly split. Indiana or Ohio we are not.

Posted by: Jay in Ames at October 12, 2012 07:39 AM (i2Lsf)

167 Ohio like Missouri? Are you trying to shift the blame for Branson?

Posted by: Up up with people! at October 12, 2012 07:39 AM (kzFo5)

168 Biden was so committed to his performance, at times he got lazy and forgot to wait for Paul Ryan to get two words out before he sighed and chortled and snorted. At times Biden was even laughing at Raddatz's questions in mid-question.

Posted by: soothsayer already said it at October 12, 2012 07:39 AM (oLmMq)

169 I am lovin the Biden Files!

Posted by: Thunderb at October 12, 2012 07:39 AM (Dnbau)

170 It's complicated and time consuming to examine each poll for consistency and accuracy.

But if you do the work, you will discover, as I did, that Obama has a slight but solid lead in both the state polls and the national polls.

What is vital to the process is a strict impartiality, and that's why I work for the New York Times!

Posted by: Nate Silver at October 12, 2012 07:39 AM (2b4yb)

171

One thing that is really annoying about northern Virginia is that all these hipsters who flocked into DC to work for Obama and all the ancillary liberal groups that support him moved in to NoVa. Why? Because its TAXES ARE LOWER than DC or Maryland. Its zoning laws are not as draconian, so lots of new apartments and cheap condos have been built there. Because there are hip neighborhoods like Clarendon that used to be decrepit but were saved by Vietnamese immigrants with pluck and hard work, and are now filled with hip boutiques and restaurants that are thriving because...TAXES ON SMALL BUSINESSES ARE LOW in Virginia!

And none of these jackholes will see a bit of irony in voting for Obama.

Posted by: rockmom at October 12, 2012 07:40 AM (aBlZ1)

172 166 Just this morning in the gym one of the guys was complaining about Southern tea. He said you (or "you all" in genuine Southern) put so much sugar in it the spoon stands up by itself.
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Yes, that can be true. A lot of people order "half sweet and half unsweet" (which didn't use to be a word) to get a good mix.

Posted by: edj at October 12, 2012 07:40 AM (+QKfp)

173 Biden's performance (whatever that was. I kept expecting him to say "Why so serious?") is kinda what I was expecting. The donks are still playing this as a base election. Expect something similar although not cranked to 11 next week from Obama

Posted by: Jolly Roger at October 12, 2012 07:40 AM (t06LC)

174

Just this morning in the gym one of the guys was complaining about Southern tea. He said you (or "you all" in genuine Southern) put so much sugar in it the spoon stands up by itself.

Ain't nuthin' wrong with that. But it should be noted that properly prepared Southern tea doesn't need sugar.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 12, 2012 07:40 AM (lOmbq)

175 I wish InTrade allowed short selling.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at October 12, 2012 07:41 AM (wzlt7)

176 No no no, this is all wrong. The multi-named poll troll assures me that Obama's going to win all the swing states, and that's good enough for me.

Posted by: mediumheadboy at October 12, 2012 07:41 AM (aHR5E)

177 And Maine is worth a campaign stop. Swing through, NH, Maine, back to NH, then down Mass to hang out Scott Brown.

Posted by: fluffy at October 12, 2012 11:35 AM (z9HTb)

Swing by Vermont and say hi to Mary in Battleboro or at least help slop her and the rest of the hogs

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 12, 2012 07:41 AM (1Jaio)

178 It can go so many ways here, it's truly split. Indiana or Ohio we are not. Posted by: Jay in Ames at October 12, 2012 11:39 AM (i2Lsf) a nail biter in Iowa.

Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at October 12, 2012 07:43 AM (DGIjM)

179 I wish InTrade allowed short selling.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at October 12, 2012 11:41 AM (wzlt7)

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Last I checked they did. You can sell as many shares of O @ .50 as you want to the campaign which is there trying to keep the price high. Unless they chnged the policy.

Posted by: Up up with people! at October 12, 2012 07:43 AM (kzFo5)

180

I live in California... and the candidates have not even bothered to run here... its like we don't matter....

Of course you do. Why, only the other day I read that Obama was fundraising in Hollywood. Oh, you mean the rest of California. No, you don't matter, like the rest of the fly-over country doesn't matter.

Posted by: Decaf at October 12, 2012 07:43 AM (N8E86)

181

Music?

http://tinyurl.com/yc78ov9

Posted by: HtP at October 12, 2012 07:44 AM (jx2j9)

182 One thing that is really annoying about northern Virginia is that all these hipsters who flocked into DC to work for Obamaand allthe ancillary liberal groups that support him moved in to NoVa

Funny thing. My lab has a high influx of new postdocs. Many of them decide they want to live in DC for that vibrant urban experience. Very few of them last a year there, and yes, they then move to Alexandria.

Posted by: pep at October 12, 2012 07:44 AM (YXmuI)

183 162 -

Missouri is as sure a bet for the R Presidential candidate as any other state these days, although the votes are always closer than some other places.

What you can also count on from Missouri is they'll split the ticket. So you've got a nitwit D Governor who is almost certainly going to be reelected. You have a nitwit Senator who is likely going to be reelected because they Rs nominated an even bigger nitwit.

And given the fact that the state has its two largest (read solid blue) cities on opposite sides, with everything in between being solidly red, you could accurately call the state bipolar, in more than one sense.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 12, 2012 07:44 AM (BeSEI)

184 I posted this earlier and I am still worried. Greg is in his room with my vibrator and his butt plug. He won't open the door and the battery in the vibrator has to be dead.

I am afraid his check from Axe bounced.

Posted by: Greg's mom at October 12, 2012 07:46 AM (wR+pz)

185 there have been reported significant problems with overseas military ballots in Virginia this year . Pulling out all the stops they are, friends.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at October 12, 2012 07:49 AM (l3vZN)

186 Lest anyone forget: Romney is trailing in all but one. He's toast. Posted by: Romneylosesbig at September 18, 2012 07:22 PM (hJEXQ)

Posted by: mediumheadboy at October 12, 2012 07:49 AM (aHR5E)

187 @184

Music? This is how I feel.

http://tinyurl.com/2f8bqs

Tell it brother!

Posted by: Greg's mom at October 12, 2012 07:49 AM (wR+pz)

188 off damn sock

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at October 12, 2012 07:50 AM (wR+pz)

189 Obama may be a SCOAMF, but Biden is just a fucking asshole.

Posted by: Chris M at October 12, 2012 07:51 AM (b3vSq)

190 I saw that at RCP. Seven States? By the way putting NC, SC, and Arizona as lean Romney is wrong. They will be voting for Romney...

Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna at October 12, 2012 07:56 AM (9+ccr)

191 Hey! Donna changed her nic! Make that a two year double platinum membership. And put it on gergy's mom's tab.

Posted by: teej says go K-State at October 12, 2012 07:59 AM (JCIjD)

192 Ohio isn't like Missouri. Our senate candidate isn't a braindead retard that believes vagina's have magic powers to block rape sperm.

Posted by: buzzion - Free Kratos at October 12, 2012 08:03 AM (GULKT)

193 Obama is radioactive in Palm Beach.

Posted by: @PurpAv at October 12, 2012 08:05 AM (dGzRv)

194 http://tinyurl.com/9a8yepz The Many Gesticulations Of Joe Biden Joe Biden appeared to be doing interpretive kabuki pantomime while sitting next to Paul Ryan.

Posted by: Evilpens at October 12, 2012 08:06 AM (ck76k)

195 Any Greggy sightings?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 12, 2012 08:16 AM (1Jaio)

196 Heyyyyyy! What's with all this 50-45, 51-47 Romney crap all of a sudden!!!! The pollsters and media have been telling me for MONTHS that Obama was ahead!!!! What happened!!!????

Posted by: Nukie at October 12, 2012 08:20 AM (6ll+l)

197

(romeo said upthread he wished more states distributed EVs like Maine does)

Our state senator introduced a proposal for electoral votes awarded according to who won the congressional district. This proposal died on the vine, despite total GOP control in my state. If it had succeeded, PA would be able to throw some EVs R. Money's way.

Posted by: kallisto at October 12, 2012 08:24 AM (jm/9g)

198 Any Greggy sightings? --- Assholerod's been too busy to send his daily talking points. He'll get to it later.

Posted by: mediumheadboy at October 12, 2012 08:29 AM (aHR5E)

199 Any Greggy sightings? was here a Wolf again

Posted by: Evilpens at October 12, 2012 08:35 AM (ck76k)

200

Finally! I was starting to freak out about Virginia, NC, and Florida.

I like what that Suffolk University polling guy said about not polling those states anymore. It's comforting to see the angry pushback against him from democrat pollsters (PPP, SurveyUSA), because it confirms he's right. I have wanted to see less time, money, and resources fixated on these 3 states, and moved to Penn, Ohio, Michigan, and Wisc.

If the battle is being waged there, and we're not sweating VA, NC, and FL, then Mitt wins (and takes the Senate with him)!

Posted by: Schnack at October 12, 2012 08:40 AM (rcWe7)

201 Not surprised at New Hampshire. It swung red in a big way in 2010. Ex Gov. Sununu has worked tirelessly for the past four years to reform the GOP grassroots
organization (according to the Gov, mostly because his wife nagged him about it).

Posted by: Mr. Peabody at October 12, 2012 08:57 AM (Hq48F)

202 11 yes, saw these internals yesterday. but from anecdotal evidence on Northern Va (Virginia's own little slice of California), there are virtually no signs of R/R's in yards, but Obama's are everywhere. I hope the person who told me this just saw this in one neighborhood. Northern Va is 1/3 of Va's vote

however, the enthusiasm is the highest its ever been for Rs--I'm hearing this from people who've been in the politicking business for 40 + years.

Posted by: kelley in virginia at October 12, 2012 11:01 AM (HNwOT)

Kelley,

My anecdotal evidence that Barky ain't doin' well in No. Virginny is based on what happened in 2008. By this time in 2008 I had been "visited" at least twice by out-of-state Barkybots asking for my vote. I tried the casual brushoff, of telling who I vote for is my bidness. Of course I was "visited" again by the Barkybots 2 more times by the end of Oct. 2008, when I finally said I was for Juan McRino. I haven't been visited once this election cycle. Still waiting for my worthless congresscritter's reps (VA-11) to visit, but they seem to come out about a week to two weeks before the election. As far as the anecdotal signage in my general neighborhood, I'm seeing more Romney signs than I did McRino's. Since I live in a heavy libtard area of Fairfax Co., and they are libtards, the Obamabots will win my voting precinct in the 55-45 range. R/R need to come out of Fairfax Co., winning about 47-48% (at a min.), and R/R should win VA, no matter what happens in the Peoples Republics of Arlington and Alexandria. I like to think of myself living behind enemy lines in a libtard section of Fairfax Co. Personally, I believe it's all the libtard NY and NJ transplants who screwed up their old home states, and now live in NoVA bringing their stupidity with them, that are making this closer than it has to be. Also starting to see more MD plates in NoVA, with people escaping O'Malley's garden of taxes. Stay the F-out of VA you tards!

Posted by: Jim Scrummy at October 12, 2012 09:02 AM (sbV1u)

203 @205 Jim, do you see Allen's chances at winning the Senate seat aligned with Romney's fortunes? Or is ticket splitting a likely outcome.

Posted by: Schnack at October 12, 2012 09:45 AM (9IHwV)

204 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: steevy at October 12, 2012 11:31 AM (6o4Fb)

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