October 11, 2012
— andy What Ace said:
You guys need to calm down with "Ryan will destroy Biden." Biden is a good debater.
— FourTwoZero (@AceofSpadesHQ) October 11, 2012
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Posted by: steevy at October 11, 2012 04:47 PM (6o4Fb)
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at October 11, 2012 04:47 PM (USBnw)
Posted by: rd does not believe the MSM at October 11, 2012 04:48 PM (zLp5I)
Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at October 11, 2012 04:48 PM (4ramR)
Posted by: jewells45 says Romney wins in a landslide at October 11, 2012 04:48 PM (UljOc)
Posted by: Blind Melon Chitlin Jr at October 11, 2012 04:48 PM (dvLAs)
For the overconfident, remember the old saying:
Never argue with an idiot. He'll drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.
Posted by: Nash Rambler at October 11, 2012 04:49 PM (LZ7QO)
Posted by: Gordon undead Ramsay at October 11, 2012 04:51 PM (9HhTH)
So will a clinical psychologist or two be observing and evaluating Biden's performance tonight?
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 11, 2012 04:51 PM (HC7j7)
Let me describe this debate in medical terms. Joe is going to kick Ryan's ass with extreme prejudice.
Posted by: Dr. Jill Biden who doesn't do proctology at October 11, 2012 04:52 PM (lDWQr)
i hope ryan beats this old fog horn leg horn like a red headed step child, like a rented mule.
Posted by: ConcealedKerry or SubMitt at October 11, 2012 04:52 PM (jLqSg)
Posted by: rabidfox at October 11, 2012 04:53 PM (sgTSU)
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at October 11, 2012 04:53 PM (YjDyJ)
http://tinyurl.com/8nsyh26
Posted by: Adam at October 11, 2012 04:53 PM (/YJYi)
Hello! It is I, Hadji - the Comic from Muslim ... ylvania.
In Muslimylvania we comics are in awe of Joe Biden. His name among us is "He who shats his pants literally, not figuratively, repeatedly."
This Joe Biden, he is popular among dry cleaner peoples.
No jokes from Hadji. Hadji has mad respect for Joe Biden.
Tip your waitresses ... and not with your penis.
_
Posted by: Hadji the Muslim Comic at October 11, 2012 04:54 PM (RuUvx)
Posted by: jaimo at October 11, 2012 04:54 PM (zujTK)
Posted by: Cris mathews at October 11, 2012 04:54 PM (jLqSg)
Posted by: Mr. Mojo Risin at October 11, 2012 04:54 PM (xXhWA)
Posted by: Blind Melon Chitlin Jr at October 11, 2012 04:54 PM (dvLAs)
Posted by: Teds of Beverly Hills at October 11, 2012 04:55 PM (U84nT)
Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at October 11, 2012 04:55 PM (4ramR)
Posted by: Christina Hendricks's Mighty Jugs Reporting for Duty at Romney HQ at October 11, 2012 04:55 PM (NHR2W)
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at October 11, 2012 04:56 PM (USBnw)
Posted by: ConcealedKerry or SubMitt at October 11, 2012 04:56 PM (jLqSg)
Posted by: Barry S at October 11, 2012 04:56 PM (9lEto)
And you and Ace need to get some BOG BOY pants on and stop making Biden a debate Legend which he is not. Seems to me you and Ace are the ones overstating your cases and you sound pathetic. Biden is not a good debater he is a BLOW HARD and FOOL. Only cowards like you and Ace would crumble under that Wet Shirt. Biden loves to thunp the chest...LET HIM do himself in...since he is SUCH A GOOD DEBATER!! What a crock!
Still no compliment or words about Ryan....how unsurprising!
Posted by: bluerose75 at October 11, 2012 04:56 PM (HDcKc)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 11, 2012 04:57 PM (lOmbq)
Posted by: Cris mathews at October 11, 2012 08:54 PM (jLqSg)
Too quick on the trigger as usual, Chris.
Posted by: Mrs. Matthews at October 11, 2012 04:57 PM (bAGA/)
Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at October 11, 2012 04:57 PM (4ramR)
He's a great bullshit artist. Maybe that's the same thing.
Posted by: IdowhatIwant at October 11, 2012 04:57 PM (a4CUi)
Posted by: ConcealedKerry or SubMitt at October 11, 2012 04:57 PM (jLqSg)
Posted by: davidt at October 11, 2012 04:57 PM (8/bPb)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at October 11, 2012 04:57 PM (g8woF)
Posted by: Joe Biden at October 11, 2012 04:58 PM (OiC7K)
Posted by: rd does not believe the MSM at October 11, 2012 04:58 PM (zLp5I)
Only teachers pets up top, moves to fast to read anyway.
Posted by: ConcealedKerry or SubMitt at October 11, 2012 04:58 PM (jLqSg)
Posted by: jewells45 says Romney wins in a landslide at October 11, 2012 04:59 PM (UljOc)
Posted by: derit at October 11, 2012 04:59 PM (I88Jc)
Wouldn't want a doping scandal for the debate, and I want proof its the 'real' Joe Biden...
Posted by: Mr Wolf, Esq at October 11, 2012 04:59 PM (UIAT6)
Posted by: tasker at October 11, 2012 04:59 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 11, 2012 04:59 PM (HC7j7)
Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at October 11, 2012 04:59 PM (4ramR)
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at October 11, 2012 04:59 PM (hO8IJ)
Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at October 11, 2012 05:00 PM (4ramR)
Posted by: osu at October 11, 2012 05:00 PM (vgMWF)
Posted by: lowandslow at October 11, 2012 05:00 PM (GZitp)
Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at October 11, 2012 05:00 PM (DGIjM)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 11, 2012 05:00 PM (X3lox)
Posted by: Cris Mathews at October 11, 2012 05:00 PM (jLqSg)
Posted by: tasker at October 11, 2012 05:01 PM (r2PLg)
Wouldn't want a doping scandal for the debate, and I want proof its the 'real' Joe Biden...
Scrape the inside of his cheek.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 11, 2012 05:01 PM (lOmbq)
Posted by: logprof at October 11, 2012 05:01 PM (V/U0X)
Posted by: davidt at October 11, 2012 05:01 PM (8/bPb)
Posted by: DangerGirl (@deadlyestrogen) at October 11, 2012 05:01 PM (GrtrJ)
Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at October 11, 2012 05:02 PM (4ramR)
Contraception
Abortion.
Immigration ; text-transform: none; text-indent: 0px; letter-spacing: normal; word-spacing: 0px; white-space: normal; box-sizing: border-box; orphans: 2; widows: 2; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;">Nothing on the budget
Nothing on the middle east ; text-transform: none; text-indent: 0px; letter-spacing: normal; word-spacing: 0px; white-space: normal; box-sizing: border-box; orphans: 2; widows: 2; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;">May touch on jobs but nothing hardball for Biden to answer. ; text-transform: none; text-indent: 0px; letter-spacing: normal; word-spacing: 0px; white-space: normal; box-sizing: border-box; orphans: 2; widows: 2; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;">Look for Biden to get more time than Ryan.
If Ryan cant get Biden off his talking points than count on the MSM to annoint Biden the winner. Biden will have gotten an advance copy of the questions. ; text-transform: none; text-indent: 0px; letter-spacing: normal; word-spacing: 0px; white-space: normal; box-sizing: border-box; orphans: 2; widows: 2; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;">Same for Obama for the next 2 debates. The MSM cant let them lose no matter what.
Posted by: retired military at October 11, 2012 05:02 PM (UbevC)
Posted by: Christina Hendricks's Mighty Jugs Reporting for Duty at Romney HQ at October 11, 2012 05:02 PM (NHR2W)
Posted by: Nukie at October 11, 2012 05:02 PM (AzwZn)
Posted by: jaimo at October 11, 2012 05:02 PM (zujTK)
Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 11, 2012 05:02 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: tasker at October 11, 2012 05:03 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 11, 2012 05:03 PM (X3lox)
Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka wright at October 11, 2012 05:03 PM (ovpNn)
Posted by: Gordon undead Ramsay at October 11, 2012 05:03 PM (9HhTH)
Posted by: jaimo at October 11, 2012 09:02 PM (zujTK)
That's one way of putting it...
Posted by: George W Beagle at October 11, 2012 05:03 PM (enmpX)
Posted by: lowandslow at October 11, 2012 05:03 PM (GZitp)
Posted by: DangerGirl (@deadlyestrogen) at October 11, 2012 05:03 PM (GrtrJ)
Posted by: IdowhatIwant at October 11, 2012 05:03 PM (a4CUi)
Posted by: Christina Hendricks's Mighty Jugs Reporting for Duty at Romney HQ at October 11, 2012 05:04 PM (NHR2W)
At least he's right about one thing - these mistakes will not be made again.
Posted by: Bomber at October 11, 2012 05:04 PM (84w+B)
Posted by: Sassy at October 11, 2012 05:04 PM (3HMHV)
Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at October 11, 2012 05:04 PM (4ramR)
How can Biden lose with Big Bird and Snuffluphagus in his corner?
Posted by: TexasJew at October 11, 2012 05:04 PM (6/bOE)
Posted by: lowandslow at October 11, 2012 05:04 PM (GZitp)
Posted by: retired military at October 11, 2012 05:04 PM (UbevC)
Posted by: kathysaysso at October 11, 2012 05:05 PM (7nu1g)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 11, 2012 05:05 PM (X3lox)
Posted by: Golan Globus at October 11, 2012 05:05 PM (/1U3u)
Leading question by the scrunt, it wasn't an intelligence failure it was State dept and POTUS failure.
State dept and POTUS did not provide security
Posted by: ConcealedKerry or SubMitt at October 11, 2012 05:05 PM (jLqSg)
Posted by: Up with people! at October 11, 2012 05:05 PM (kzFo5)
Posted by: DangerGirl (@deadlyestrogen) at October 11, 2012 05:05 PM (GrtrJ)
Posted by: Sassy at October 11, 2012 05:05 PM (3HMHV)
Posted by: gmannyc at October 11, 2012 05:05 PM (tzMxd)
Posted by: lowandslow at October 11, 2012 09:04 PM (GZitp)
Yeah, what's up with that??
Posted by: George W Beagle at October 11, 2012 05:05 PM (enmpX)
Posted by: willy at October 11, 2012 05:05 PM (kUCQ4)
Posted by: DC in Towson at October 11, 2012 05:05 PM (CJwi5)
Hey Joe its been a month since Benghazi. Libya is still standing.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 11, 2012 05:06 PM (HC7j7)
Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka wright at October 11, 2012 05:06 PM (ovpNn)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 11, 2012 05:06 PM (X3lox)
Listen,
If Ryan doesn't clearly best Biden, the MSM will carry Team Mugabe the rest of the way. The liberal elites infesting the nation's media outlets have too much invested in President Faggot to just let it happen naturally.
Posted by: SMOD 2012 at October 11, 2012 05:06 PM (Sfc8B)
Posted by: DangerGirl (@deadlyestrogen) at October 11, 2012 05:07 PM (GrtrJ)
Posted by: Ed Anger at October 11, 2012 05:07 PM (tOkJB)
Posted by: nerdygirl at October 11, 2012 05:07 PM (LhJo8)
Posted by: Adam at October 11, 2012 05:07 PM (/YJYi)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 11, 2012 05:07 PM (X3lox)
Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 11, 2012 05:07 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: derit at October 11, 2012 05:07 PM (I88Jc)
Posted by: tasker at October 11, 2012 05:07 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: lowandslow at October 11, 2012 05:07 PM (GZitp)
Posted by: George W Beagle at October 11, 2012 05:07 PM (enmpX)
Posted by: go P90X at October 11, 2012 05:07 PM (LpQbZ)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 11, 2012 05:07 PM (HC7j7)
Posted by: DangerGirl (@deadlyestrogen) at October 11, 2012 05:08 PM (GrtrJ)
Posted by: IdowhatIwant at October 11, 2012 05:08 PM (a4CUi)
Posted by: Sassy at October 11, 2012 09:07 PM (3HMHV)
Must have gotten new dentures he wants to show off...
Posted by: George W Beagle at October 11, 2012 05:08 PM (enmpX)
Posted by: tasker at October 11, 2012 05:08 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: Warthog at October 11, 2012 05:08 PM (OixJo)
Posted by: obie doobie at October 11, 2012 05:08 PM (Q2wni)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 11, 2012 05:08 PM (X3lox)
Posted by: brass pair at October 11, 2012 05:08 PM (5e9ni)
Posted by: BignJames at October 11, 2012 05:09 PM (rlFQ+)
Posted by: Christina Hendricks's Mighty Jugs Reporting for Duty at Romney HQ at October 11, 2012 05:09 PM (NHR2W)
Posted by: Sassy at October 11, 2012 05:09 PM (3HMHV)
Posted by: jewells45 says Romney wins in a landslide at October 11, 2012 05:09 PM (UljOc)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 11, 2012 05:09 PM (X3lox)
Posted by: Justamom in Achin' Akin's district at October 11, 2012 05:09 PM (Sptt8)
Posted by: tasker at October 11, 2012 05:09 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: George W Beagle at October 11, 2012 05:09 PM (enmpX)
Posted by: Nicholas Kronos at October 11, 2012 05:09 PM (h9gW0)
Posted by: willy at October 11, 2012 05:10 PM (kUCQ4)
Posted by: sTevo at October 11, 2012 05:10 PM (VMcEw)
Posted by: Sassy at October 11, 2012 05:10 PM (3HMHV)
Posted by: wooga at October 11, 2012 05:10 PM (vjyZP)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 11, 2012 05:10 PM (lOmbq)
Posted by: Skeptical at October 11, 2012 05:10 PM (Dya0u)
Posted by: brass pair at October 11, 2012 05:10 PM (5e9ni)
Posted by: go P90X at October 11, 2012 05:10 PM (LpQbZ)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 11, 2012 05:10 PM (X3lox)
Posted by: logprof at October 11, 2012 05:10 PM (V/U0X)
Posted by: Sassy at October 11, 2012 05:10 PM (3HMHV)
Ryan is going to have to get under uncle Joe's skin. He needs to piss him off.
Posted by: HtP at October 11, 2012 05:10 PM (jx2j9)
Posted by: kathysaysso at October 11, 2012 05:11 PM (7nu1g)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 11, 2012 05:11 PM (HC7j7)
Posted by: IdowhatIwant at October 11, 2012 05:11 PM (a4CUi)
Posted by: tasker at October 11, 2012 05:11 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 11, 2012 05:11 PM (dX4hn)
Posted by: kathysaysso at October 11, 2012 05:12 PM (7nu1g)
Posted by: Blind Melon Chitlin Jr at October 11, 2012 05:12 PM (dvLAs)
Posted by: newmike at October 11, 2012 05:12 PM (YCfAX)
Posted by: t-bird at October 11, 2012 05:13 PM (Qwu7o)
Posted by: Sassy at October 11, 2012 05:13 PM (3HMHV)
Posted by: tasker at October 11, 2012 05:13 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka wright at October 11, 2012 05:13 PM (ovpNn)
Posted by: tasker at October 11, 2012 05:13 PM (r2PLg)
That should scare the pants of some of the fence sitters
Posted by: kathysaysso at October 11, 2012 05:14 PM (7nu1g)
I flipped over to the debate to see what Ryan was wearing (look I'm deep okay) and in the 45 seconds I saw, he was going all out on Libya. I may have yelled FINISH HIM but you can't prove it.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Whiteboard 2012 at October 11, 2012 05:14 PM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: Sassy at October 11, 2012 05:14 PM (3HMHV)
Posted by: newmike at October 11, 2012 05:14 PM (YCfAX)
Need to move to domestic issues for Ryan to shine.
Posted by: Nicholas Kronos at October 11, 2012 05:14 PM (h9gW0)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 11, 2012 05:14 PM (HC7j7)
Posted by: Craig Poe at October 11, 2012 05:14 PM (BVkEs)
Posted by: tasker at October 11, 2012 05:15 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: waelse1 at October 11, 2012 05:15 PM (FFfkF)
Posted by: nerdygirl at October 11, 2012 05:15 PM (LhJo8)
Posted by: tasker at October 11, 2012 05:15 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: Sassy at October 11, 2012 05:15 PM (3HMHV)
Posted by: Craig Poe at October 11, 2012 05:15 PM (BVkEs)
Posted by: traumakitty at October 11, 2012 05:15 PM (c/Glr)
Posted by: newmike at October 11, 2012 05:15 PM (YCfAX)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 11, 2012 05:15 PM (X3lox)
Posted by: go P90X at October 11, 2012 05:15 PM (LpQbZ)
Posted by: StuckonStupid at October 11, 2012 05:16 PM (f/0ub)
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 46% more DOOM! at October 11, 2012 05:16 PM (MrM2k)
Posted by: tasker at October 11, 2012 05:16 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: Sassy at October 11, 2012 05:16 PM (3HMHV)
Posted by: lowandslow at October 11, 2012 05:16 PM (GZitp)
Posted by: Justamom in Achin' Akin's district at October 11, 2012 05:16 PM (Sptt8)
Posted by: Adam at October 11, 2012 05:16 PM (/YJYi)
Posted by: huerfano at October 11, 2012 05:16 PM (bAGA/)
Posted by: go P90X at October 11, 2012 05:16 PM (LpQbZ)
Posted by: kawfytawk at October 11, 2012 05:16 PM (JWLqy)
Posted by: George W Beagle at October 11, 2012 05:16 PM (enmpX)
He isn't answering a goddam thing - just blowing hot air.
Posted by: kathysaysso at October 11, 2012 05:16 PM (7nu1g)
Posted by: rabidfox at October 11, 2012 05:16 PM (sgTSU)
Posted by: brass pair at October 11, 2012 05:17 PM (5e9ni)
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes....Free Kratos!! at October 11, 2012 05:17 PM (RFeQD)
Posted by: katya the designated driver at October 11, 2012 05:17 PM (DoZD+)
Posted by: nerdygirl at October 11, 2012 05:17 PM (LhJo8)
Posted by: tasker at October 11, 2012 05:17 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at October 11, 2012 05:17 PM (YjDyJ)
IE CIA and Mossad are going, "Iran is going to blow us up!"
The terror attack planned against the Saudi ambassador was rolled up by the FBI and no one really covered it.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 11, 2012 05:17 PM (HC7j7)
Posted by: ErikW at October 11, 2012 05:18 PM (2ekWW)
Posted by: Sharon at October 11, 2012 05:18 PM (DtEq4)
Posted by: Ed Anger at October 11, 2012 05:18 PM (tOkJB)
Posted by: derit at October 11, 2012 05:18 PM (I88Jc)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 11, 2012 05:18 PM (X3lox)
Posted by: harleycowboy at October 11, 2012 05:18 PM (BGVHF)
Posted by: tasker at October 11, 2012 05:18 PM (r2PLg)
263 So far this favors Biden even if Obama has a bad record. It's not what Ryan really knows, and it's what Biden focuses on.
Biden doesn't know it either
Posted by: Marybeth at October 11, 2012 05:18 PM (fkaOH)
Biden's been botoxed.
Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at October 11, 2012 05:18 PM (4ramR)
Posted by: waelse1 at October 11, 2012 05:18 PM (FFfkF)
Posted by: MrC_5150 at October 11, 2012 05:18 PM (UeuU/)
Posted by: StuckonStupid at October 11, 2012 05:18 PM (f/0ub)
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes....Free Kratos!! at October 11, 2012 05:19 PM (RFeQD)
Posted by: nerdygirl at October 11, 2012 05:19 PM (LhJo8)
Posted by: Sassy at October 11, 2012 05:19 PM (3HMHV)
Posted by: kathysaysso at October 11, 2012 05:19 PM (7nu1g)
Pearl Harbor happened. Hey Joe study history when tyrants get backed into a corner.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 11, 2012 05:19 PM (HC7j7)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at October 11, 2012 05:19 PM (jucos)
Posted by: logprof at October 11, 2012 05:19 PM (V/U0X)
Posted by: Sassy at October 11, 2012 05:20 PM (3HMHV)
Posted by: Adam at October 11, 2012 05:20 PM (/YJYi)
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes....Free Kratos!! at October 11, 2012 05:20 PM (RFeQD)
Posted by: StuckonStupid at October 11, 2012 05:20 PM (f/0ub)
Posted by: TexasJew at October 11, 2012 05:20 PM (6/bOE)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 11, 2012 05:20 PM (HC7j7)
Posted by: tasker at October 11, 2012 05:20 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at October 11, 2012 05:20 PM (4ramR)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 11, 2012 05:20 PM (X3lox)
Posted by: newmike at October 11, 2012 05:20 PM (YCfAX)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 11, 2012 05:21 PM (lOmbq)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 11, 2012 05:21 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes....Free Kratos!! at October 11, 2012 05:21 PM (RFeQD)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 11, 2012 05:21 PM (X3lox)
Posted by: tasker at October 11, 2012 05:21 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: Craig Poe at October 11, 2012 05:21 PM (BVkEs)
Good call, buddy.
Good call.
Posted by: Waterhouse at October 11, 2012 05:21 PM (vgtXQ)
Posted by: derit at October 11, 2012 05:21 PM (I88Jc)
Posted by: Daily Dish at October 11, 2012 05:22 PM (+b3dK)
Posted by: tasker at October 11, 2012 05:22 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: Optimizer at October 11, 2012 05:22 PM (As94z)
Posted by: kawfytawk at October 11, 2012 05:22 PM (JWLqy)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 11, 2012 05:22 PM (X3lox)
Posted by: logprof at October 11, 2012 05:22 PM (V/U0X)
Posted by: Justamom in Achin' Akin's district at October 11, 2012 05:22 PM (Sptt8)
Posted by: Craig Poe at October 11, 2012 05:22 PM (BVkEs)
Posted by: traumakitty at October 11, 2012 05:22 PM (c/Glr)
Posted by: Barry S at October 11, 2012 05:22 PM (9lEto)
Posted by: Sassy at October 11, 2012 05:22 PM (3HMHV)
goddamit - I hate Biden but jesus H christ he talks to the regular person. Ryan doesn't. Except for that little joke he just made. More of that dammit
--------
Goodness calm down. Your imploding here.
Posted by: Rich at October 11, 2012 05:22 PM (pnHKr)
Posted by: JPS at October 11, 2012 05:22 PM (HjV4N)
Posted by: willy at October 11, 2012 05:23 PM (kUCQ4)
Posted by: Bomber at October 11, 2012 05:23 PM (84w+B)
When Obama took office, we had an army on Iran's western border.
Now we don't.
When Obama took office, the government of Iraq was somewhat in alignment with the United States.
Now it isn't .
Of course, we are in a stronger position now than then.
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes....Free Kratos!! at October 11, 2012 05:23 PM (RFeQD)
Posted by: eman at October 11, 2012 05:23 PM (+XD7n)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 11, 2012 05:23 PM (X3lox)
Posted by: newmike at October 11, 2012 05:23 PM (YCfAX)
Posted by: TD at October 11, 2012 05:23 PM (+uFux)
Posted by: kathysayso posting for giftogab at October 11, 2012 05:23 PM (7nu1g)
Posted by: tasker at October 11, 2012 05:23 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: waelse1 at October 11, 2012 05:24 PM (FFfkF)
She was a butt ugly liberal scrunt then, and she's even more ugly today.
She looks like Abe Lincoln in a wig.
Posted by: ontherocks at October 11, 2012 05:24 PM (aZ6ew)
Posted by: go P90X at October 11, 2012 05:24 PM (LpQbZ)
Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 11, 2012 05:25 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Palandine at October 11, 2012 05:25 PM (g7D8V)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 11, 2012 05:25 PM (HC7j7)
Posted by: dayton denise at October 11, 2012 05:25 PM (18kV8)
Posted by: JewishOdysseus at October 11, 2012 05:25 PM (WCzJ6)
Posted by: brass pair at October 11, 2012 05:25 PM (5e9ni)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 11, 2012 05:25 PM (X3lox)
Posted by: go P90X at October 11, 2012 05:25 PM (LpQbZ)
Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at October 11, 2012 05:25 PM (4ramR)
Posted by: tasker at October 11, 2012 05:26 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: newmike at October 11, 2012 05:26 PM (YCfAX)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at October 11, 2012 05:26 PM (Br3eE)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at October 11, 2012 05:26 PM (jucos)
Posted by: 56 and loving RR at October 11, 2012 05:26 PM (9zugO)
Posted by: Sassy at October 11, 2012 05:26 PM (3HMHV)
Posted by: Sassy at October 11, 2012 05:26 PM (3HMHV)
Posted by: Torch-Wielding Villager at October 11, 2012 05:26 PM (sTS/8)
Posted by: dayton denise at October 11, 2012 05:27 PM (18kV8)
Posted by: Marybeth at October 11, 2012 05:27 PM (fkaOH)
Yes, and then, the cram down on the senior debt at GM
And yes, the top 1% pay 25% of the income tax.
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes....Free Kratos!! at October 11, 2012 05:27 PM (RFeQD)
Posted by: JewishOdysseus at October 11, 2012 05:27 PM (WCzJ6)
Posted by: Bomber at October 11, 2012 05:27 PM (84w+B)
Posted by: kathysayso at October 11, 2012 05:27 PM (7nu1g)
Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka wright at October 11, 2012 05:27 PM (ovpNn)
Posted by: Palandine at October 11, 2012 05:27 PM (g7D8V)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at October 11, 2012 05:28 PM (g8woF)
Posted by: dayton denise at October 11, 2012 05:28 PM (18kV8)
Posted by: Craig Poe at October 11, 2012 05:28 PM (BVkEs)
Posted by: willy at October 11, 2012 05:28 PM (kUCQ4)
Posted by: nerdygirl at October 11, 2012 05:28 PM (LhJo8)
Posted by: tasker at October 11, 2012 05:28 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 11, 2012 05:28 PM (lOmbq)
He is an embarrassing ignoramus.
Posted by: ontherocks at October 11, 2012 05:28 PM (aZ6ew)
Posted by: fixerupper at October 11, 2012 05:28 PM (ffV1/)
Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at October 11, 2012 05:29 PM (4ramR)
Posted by: kathysayso at October 11, 2012 05:29 PM (7nu1g)
I had to turn that shit off, before I threw something at Biden's contorted mug and right through the screen.
Posted by: Brick Gripper at October 11, 2012 05:29 PM (38ReL)
Posted by: tasker at October 11, 2012 05:29 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 11, 2012 05:29 PM (X3lox)
Posted by: newmike at October 11, 2012 05:29 PM (YCfAX)
Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka wright at October 11, 2012 05:29 PM (ovpNn)
Posted by: crowsting at October 11, 2012 05:29 PM (9LHgH)
Posted by: Rich at October 11, 2012 05:29 PM (pnHKr)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 11, 2012 05:29 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: 56 and loving RR at October 11, 2012 05:29 PM (9zugO)
Posted by: Billy Bob, the guy who drinks in SC at October 11, 2012 05:29 PM (wR+pz)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at October 11, 2012 05:30 PM (jucos)
Posted by: StuckonStupid at October 11, 2012 05:30 PM (f/0ub)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at October 11, 2012 05:30 PM (Br3eE)
Posted by: tasker at October 11, 2012 05:30 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: ConcealedKerry or SubMitt at October 11, 2012 05:30 PM (jLqSg)
Posted by: Joe Biden at October 11, 2012 05:30 PM (IZLJZ)
Posted by: kathysayso at October 11, 2012 05:30 PM (7nu1g)
Posted by: George W Beagle at October 11, 2012 05:30 PM (enmpX)
Posted by: lowandslow at October 11, 2012 05:30 PM (GZitp)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at October 11, 2012 05:30 PM (g8woF)
Posted by: nerdygirl at October 11, 2012 05:30 PM (LhJo8)
Posted by: Sheriff Joe at October 11, 2012 05:31 PM (0It32)
Posted by: StuckonStupid at October 11, 2012 05:31 PM (f/0ub)
Posted by: 56 and loving RR at October 11, 2012 05:31 PM (9zugO)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 11, 2012 05:31 PM (X3lox)
Posted by: George W Beagle at October 11, 2012 05:31 PM (enmpX)
Posted by: StuckonStupid at October 11, 2012 05:31 PM (f/0ub)
Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at October 11, 2012 05:31 PM (4ramR)
Posted by: Optimizer at October 11, 2012 05:31 PM (As94z)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 11, 2012 05:32 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: George W Beagle at October 11, 2012 05:32 PM (enmpX)
Posted by: derit at October 11, 2012 05:32 PM (I88Jc)
Posted by: Adam at October 11, 2012 05:32 PM (/YJYi)
Posted by: Marybeth at October 11, 2012 05:32 PM (fkaOH)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 11, 2012 05:32 PM (X3lox)
Posted by: StuckonStupid at October 11, 2012 05:32 PM (f/0ub)
Ever since then he's just been a vague retard sucking on Romney's cock.
Why pick someone if you aren't gonna follow through on some of his stated policies?
Posted by: Flapjackmaka at October 11, 2012 05:32 PM (nIZQ2)
"Don't tell me what you care about, show me your budget"
-- Joe Biden's dead father
Posted by: Bomber at October 11, 2012 05:32 PM (84w+B)
Posted by: cajun carrot at October 11, 2012 05:32 PM (3jgI1)
Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka wright at October 11, 2012 05:32 PM (ovpNn)
Posted by: Sassy at October 11, 2012 05:32 PM (3HMHV)
Posted by: newmike at October 11, 2012 05:32 PM (YCfAX)
Posted by: ConcealedKerry or SubMitt at October 11, 2012 05:33 PM (jLqSg)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at October 11, 2012 05:33 PM (g8woF)
Posted by: Albie Damned at October 11, 2012 05:33 PM (Yhu4q)
Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 11, 2012 05:33 PM (dX4hn)
Posted by: Sassy at October 11, 2012 05:33 PM (3HMHV)
Posted by: Museisluse at October 11, 2012 05:33 PM (k3sO2)
Posted by: JewishOdysseus at October 11, 2012 05:33 PM (WCzJ6)
Posted by: George W Beagle at October 11, 2012 05:33 PM (enmpX)
Posted by: BlackOrchid-StillMissingDagny at October 11, 2012 05:33 PM (J6kXj)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 11, 2012 05:33 PM (HC7j7)
Posted by: StuckonStupid at October 11, 2012 05:33 PM (f/0ub)
Posted by: Justamom in Achin' Akin's district at October 11, 2012 05:33 PM (Sptt8)
Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka wright at October 11, 2012 05:34 PM (ovpNn)
Posted by: StuckonStupid at October 11, 2012 05:34 PM (f/0ub)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 11, 2012 05:34 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Bomber at October 11, 2012 05:34 PM (84w+B)
Posted by: derit at October 11, 2012 05:34 PM (I88Jc)
Posted by: dayton denise at October 11, 2012 05:34 PM (18kV8)
Posted by: Justamom in Achin' Akin's district at October 11, 2012 05:34 PM (Sptt8)
Posted by: George W Beagle at October 11, 2012 05:35 PM (enmpX)
Posted by: HtP at October 11, 2012 05:35 PM (jx2j9)
Posted by: Albie Damned at October 11, 2012 05:35 PM (Yhu4q)
Posted by: newmike at October 11, 2012 05:35 PM (YCfAX)
Biden's laughing and antics will backfire.
/
The moderator is definitely tilting this for Biden.
Posted by: Ohio Dan at October 11, 2012 05:35 PM (JKNDp)
Posted by: Sassy at October 11, 2012 05:35 PM (3HMHV)
Posted by: Ringo at October 11, 2012 05:36 PM (C+iNK)
Posted by: nerdygirl at October 11, 2012 05:36 PM (LhJo8)
Posted by: Craig Poe at October 11, 2012 05:36 PM (BVkEs)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at October 11, 2012 05:36 PM (jucos)
Posted by: GW McLintock at October 11, 2012 05:36 PM (KmBWA)
Posted by: Buddy Bizarre at October 11, 2012 05:36 PM (sqGUm)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 11, 2012 05:36 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: nuclearjim at October 11, 2012 05:36 PM (H8H9R)
Posted by: TexasJew at October 11, 2012 05:37 PM (6/bOE)
Posted by: Albie Damned at October 11, 2012 05:37 PM (Yhu4q)
Posted by: Ed Anger at October 11, 2012 05:37 PM (tOkJB)
Posted by: Sassy at October 11, 2012 05:37 PM (3HMHV)
Posted by: 56 and loving RR at October 11, 2012 05:37 PM (9zugO)
Posted by: waelse1 at October 11, 2012 05:37 PM (FFfkF)
Posted by: Marybeth at October 11, 2012 05:38 PM (fkaOH)
Posted by: Hostilian at October 11, 2012 05:38 PM (gkFKH)
Posted by: derit at October 11, 2012 05:39 PM (I88Jc)
Posted by: Torch-Wielding Villager at October 11, 2012 05:39 PM (sTS/8)
Posted by: Sassy at October 11, 2012 05:39 PM (3HMHV)
Posted by: Sassy at October 11, 2012 05:39 PM (3HMHV)
Posted by: Ringo at October 11, 2012 05:40 PM (C+iNK)
Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka wright at October 11, 2012 05:40 PM (ovpNn)
Posted by: 56 and loving RR at October 11, 2012 09:37 PM (9zugO)
Agree completely - he's going for the Algore charm award...
Posted by: George W Beagle at October 11, 2012 05:40 PM (enmpX)
Posted by: katya the designated driver at October 11, 2012 05:40 PM (DoZD+)
Posted by: kathysayso at October 11, 2012 05:41 PM (7nu1g)
Posted by: nuclearjim at October 11, 2012 05:41 PM (H8H9R)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 11, 2012 05:42 PM (X3lox)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 11, 2012 05:42 PM (X3lox)
Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 11, 2012 05:42 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 11, 2012 05:43 PM (X3lox)
Posted by: newmike at October 11, 2012 05:44 PM (YCfAX)
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at October 11, 2012 05:44 PM (R8hU8)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 11, 2012 05:46 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Tami at October 11, 2012 05:47 PM (X6akg)
Posted by: waelse1 at October 11, 2012 05:47 PM (FFfkF)
Posted by: Albie Damned at October 11, 2012 05:48 PM (Yhu4q)
This debate will be won or lost in the spin room.
Posted by: HtP at October 11, 2012 05:49 PM (jx2j9)
Posted by: Torch-Wielding Villager at October 11, 2012 05:49 PM (sTS/8)
Posted by: @PurpAv at October 11, 2012 05:49 PM (/Rb3s)
Posted by: Nicholas Kronos at October 11, 2012 05:49 PM (h9gW0)
Posted by: kathysayso at October 11, 2012 05:49 PM (7nu1g)
Posted by: logprof at October 11, 2012 05:50 PM (V/U0X)
Posted by: Ed Anger at October 11, 2012 05:50 PM (tOkJB)
Posted by: 56 and loving RR at October 11, 2012 05:50 PM (9zugO)
Posted by: ontherocks at October 11, 2012 05:50 PM (aZ6ew)
Posted by: Torch-Wielding Villager at October 11, 2012 05:50 PM (sTS/8)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 11, 2012 05:50 PM (HC7j7)
Posted by: Sharon at October 11, 2012 05:51 PM (DtEq4)
Posted by: Sassy at October 11, 2012 05:51 PM (3HMHV)
Posted by: Albie Damned at October 11, 2012 05:51 PM (Yhu4q)
Posted by: BlackOrchid-StillMissingDagny at October 11, 2012 05:51 PM (J6kXj)
Posted by: ontherocks at October 11, 2012 05:51 PM (aZ6ew)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at October 11, 2012 05:52 PM (Br3eE)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 11, 2012 05:52 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 11, 2012 05:52 PM (X3lox)
Posted by: tasker at October 11, 2012 05:52 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: Billy Bob, the guy who drinks in SC at October 11, 2012 05:52 PM (wR+pz)
Posted by: Warthog at October 11, 2012 05:52 PM (OixJo)
Posted by: newmike at October 11, 2012 05:52 PM (YCfAX)
Posted by: @PurpAv at October 11, 2012 05:52 PM (/Rb3s)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 11, 2012 05:52 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: LASue at October 11, 2012 05:52 PM (gjIQF)
Posted by: Torch-Wielding Villager at October 11, 2012 05:52 PM (sTS/8)
Posted by: StuckonStupid at October 11, 2012 05:53 PM (f/0ub)
Posted by: derit at October 11, 2012 05:53 PM (I88Jc)
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna at October 11, 2012 05:53 PM (9+ccr)
Posted by: Tami at October 11, 2012 05:53 PM (X6akg)
Posted by: Sassy at October 11, 2012 05:53 PM (3HMHV)
Posted by: Daily Dish at October 11, 2012 05:53 PM (+b3dK)
Posted by: tasker at October 11, 2012 05:53 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: Nicholas Kronos at October 11, 2012 05:53 PM (h9gW0)
Posted by: kathysayso at October 11, 2012 05:53 PM (7nu1g)
Posted by: dayton denise at October 11, 2012 05:54 PM (18kV8)
Posted by: Bomber at October 11, 2012 05:54 PM (84w+B)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at October 11, 2012 05:54 PM (Br3eE)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 11, 2012 05:54 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 11, 2012 05:54 PM (X3lox)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 11, 2012 05:54 PM (PHb2k)
Posted by: Torch-Wielding Villager at October 11, 2012 05:54 PM (sTS/8)
Posted by: Ed Anger at October 11, 2012 05:54 PM (tOkJB)
Posted by: newmike at October 11, 2012 05:54 PM (YCfAX)
Posted by: Tami at October 11, 2012 05:54 PM (X6akg)
Posted by: Christina Hendricks's Mighty Jugs Reporting for Duty at Romney HQ at October 11, 2012 05:54 PM (NHR2W)
Posted by: dayton denise at October 11, 2012 05:55 PM (18kV8)
Posted by: LASue at October 11, 2012 05:55 PM (gjIQF)
FUCK
lay down the fucking law goddammmit
Posted by: Albie Damned at October 11, 2012 05:55 PM (Yhu4q)
Posted by: go P90X at October 11, 2012 05:55 PM (LpQbZ)
Posted by: Sassy at October 11, 2012 05:55 PM (3HMHV)
Posted by: Blind Melon Chitlin Jr at October 11, 2012 05:55 PM (dvLAs)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 11, 2012 05:55 PM (HC7j7)
Nothing.
Posted by: Waterhouse at October 11, 2012 05:55 PM (vgtXQ)
Posted by: Red Shirt at October 11, 2012 05:55 PM (3p2TP)
Posted by: kathysayso at October 11, 2012 05:55 PM (7nu1g)
Posted by: Gordon undead Ramsay at October 11, 2012 05:55 PM (9HhTH)
Ryan needs to stop being so nice.
Posted by: Will Never Vote For a dhimmocrat at October 11, 2012 05:55 PM (kXoT0)
What a creep.
Posted by: LASue at October 11, 2012 09:52 PM (gjIQF)
Exactly - I think even if anything he said made sense, he'd lose with that idiot laugh, tooth-baring grin, and generally creepy demeanor...
Posted by: George W Beagle at October 11, 2012 05:55 PM (enmpX)
Posted by: waelse1 at October 11, 2012 05:55 PM (FFfkF)
You can always swear at the Yankees like I'm doing.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Whiteboard 2012 at October 11, 2012 05:55 PM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: tasker at October 11, 2012 05:56 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna at October 11, 2012 05:56 PM (9+ccr)
Posted by: BlackOrchid-StillMissingDagny at October 11, 2012 05:56 PM (J6kXj)
Posted by: WTF at October 11, 2012 05:56 PM (dAmmy)
Posted by: Ohio Dan at October 11, 2012 05:56 PM (JKNDp)
Posted by: Daily Dish at October 11, 2012 05:56 PM (+b3dK)
Posted by: logprof at October 11, 2012 05:56 PM (V/U0X)
Slow Joe has taken the gloves off. I wish Ryan would ditch the "Aw, shucks crap" and take him down to the mat.
Posted by: Ernie McCracken at October 11, 2012 05:56 PM (ZETiK)
Posted by: eman at October 11, 2012 05:57 PM (+XD7n)
Posted by: Sassy at October 11, 2012 05:57 PM (3HMHV)
Posted by: Torch-Wielding Villager at October 11, 2012 05:57 PM (sTS/8)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 11, 2012 05:57 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: StuckonStupid at October 11, 2012 05:57 PM (f/0ub)
Posted by: not the mama at October 11, 2012 05:57 PM (kzCIn)
Posted by: George W Beagle at October 11, 2012 05:57 PM (enmpX)
Posted by: dayton denise at October 11, 2012 05:57 PM (18kV8)
Posted by: newmike at October 11, 2012 05:57 PM (YCfAX)
Posted by: Christina Hendricks's Mighty Jugs Reporting for Duty at Romney HQ at October 11, 2012 05:57 PM (NHR2W)
I'm convinced that Radditz and Biden are holding hands under the table.
Jeez...this is disgusting.
Posted by: wheatie at October 11, 2012 05:57 PM (l5RhJ)
Or was that Biden?
Posted by: tasker at October 11, 2012 09:56 PM (r2PLg)
I heard the sigh and thought it was Biden. We'll see.
Posted by: Craig Poe at October 11, 2012 05:57 PM (BVkEs)
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna at October 11, 2012 05:57 PM (9+ccr)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 11, 2012 05:58 PM (PHb2k)
Posted by: Daily Dish at October 11, 2012 05:58 PM (+b3dK)
Posted by: Sassy at October 11, 2012 05:58 PM (3HMHV)
Posted by: The Political Hat at October 11, 2012 05:58 PM (sZTYJ)
Posted by: ConcealedKerry or SubMitt at October 11, 2012 05:58 PM (jLqSg)
Posted by: BlackOrchid-StillMissingDagny at October 11, 2012 05:58 PM (J6kXj)
Posted by: eman at October 11, 2012 05:58 PM (+XD7n)
Posted by: Bomber at October 11, 2012 05:58 PM (84w+B)
Posted by: HtP at October 11, 2012 05:58 PM (jx2j9)
Posted by: Redd at October 11, 2012 05:59 PM (guxHP)
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC in Johnson County laughing at Cook County at October 11, 2012 05:59 PM (ta7MU)
Yep. But Ryan is performing admirably under duress.
Biden is being Biden.
Posted by: Nicholas Kronos at October 11, 2012 05:59 PM (h9gW0)
Posted by: kathysayso at October 11, 2012 05:59 PM (7nu1g)
Posted by: logprof at October 11, 2012 05:59 PM (V/U0X)
So there's that, but this is the worst tag team debate I have ever seen.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 11, 2012 05:59 PM (PHb2k)
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna at October 11, 2012 05:59 PM (9+ccr)
Posted by: Ed Anger at October 11, 2012 05:59 PM (tOkJB)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 11, 2012 05:59 PM (bxiXv)
So I actually turned on the debate and WTF?!?!?!? It's out of fucking control. Had to turn it off. Joe is apparently a child who gets all the attention.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at October 11, 2012 05:59 PM (TJ/PF)
This is pathetic display of bluster enabled by the MSM.
Don't worry my morons. Obama will not carry anything from this.
Posted by: Journolist at October 11, 2012 05:59 PM (LyIKl)
Posted by: lowandslow at October 11, 2012 05:59 PM (GZitp)
Posted by: Ed Anger at October 11, 2012 09:54 PM (tOkJB)
In a fire
Posted by: Red Shirt at October 11, 2012 09:55 PM (3p2TP)
He's rolling over. He's letting the moderator steamroll him
Romney was effective because he didn't act like a little fucking schoolgirl when Leherer tried to cut him off
Posted by: Albie Damned at October 11, 2012 06:00 PM (Yhu4q)
Posted by: tasker at October 11, 2012 06:00 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: Will Never Vote For a dhimmocrat at October 11, 2012 06:00 PM (kXoT0)
He's rolling over. He's letting the moderator steamroll him
Romney was effective because he didn't act like a little fucking schoolgirl when Leherer tried to cut him off
I think this guy is a troll?
Posted by: Albie Damned at October 11, 2012 10:00 PM (Yhu4q)
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna at October 11, 2012 06:00 PM (9+ccr)
Posted by: waelse1 at October 11, 2012 06:01 PM (FFfkF)
Posted by: BlackOrchid-StillMissingDagny at October 11, 2012 09:58 PM (J6kXj)<br>
I passed "heavily" 20 minutes ago and am approaching "megaton-ly"
Posted by: kathysayso at October 11, 2012 06:01 PM (7nu1g)
Posted by: go P90X at October 11, 2012 06:01 PM (LpQbZ)
You're a fucking troll. I'll never respect any comment or yours again, asshole.
Posted by: Ed Anger at October 11, 2012 09:59 PM (tOkJB)
Wow...gosh that's upsetting.
Posted by: Albie Damned at October 11, 2012 06:01 PM (Yhu4q)
Posted by: Bomber at October 11, 2012 06:01 PM (84w+B)
Posted by: @PurpAv at October 11, 2012 06:01 PM (/Rb3s)
Posted by: Journolist at October 11, 2012 06:01 PM (LyIKl)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 11, 2012 06:01 PM (dOC3d)
Posted by: harleycowboy at October 11, 2012 06:01 PM (wSTfB)
Posted by: Torch-Wielding Villager at October 11, 2012 06:01 PM (sTS/8)
Interesting.
http://tinyurl.com/8vmpamv
Posted by: IdowhatIwant at October 11, 2012 06:02 PM (a4CUi)
Posted by: Albie Damned at October 11, 2012 06:02 PM (Yhu4q)
Posted by: newmike at October 11, 2012 06:02 PM (YCfAX)
Posted by: jaimo at October 11, 2012 06:02 PM (zujTK)
Posted by: Bomber at October 11, 2012 06:02 PM (84w+B)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at October 11, 2012 06:02 PM (Br3eE)
Posted by: Will Never Vote For a dhimmocrat at October 11, 2012 06:02 PM (kXoT0)
Posted by: Sassy at October 11, 2012 06:03 PM (3HMHV)
Posted by: Jimi at October 11, 2012 06:03 PM (6sLo8)
I can't believe how fucking out of control this thing was and I only turned on five minutes of it.
Utterly infuriating. Why even bother with a moderator? Seriously.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at October 11, 2012 06:03 PM (TJ/PF)
Posted by: lowandslow at October 11, 2012 06:03 PM (GZitp)
Posted by: kathysayso at October 11, 2012 06:03 PM (7nu1g)
Posted by: A. at October 11, 2012 06:03 PM (UQcYU)
Posted by: Museisluse at October 11, 2012 06:03 PM (k3sO2)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 11, 2012 06:03 PM (X3lox)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 11, 2012 06:03 PM (HC7j7)
Posted by: brass pair at October 11, 2012 06:03 PM (5e9ni)
Posted by: President For Life Obama at October 11, 2012 06:04 PM (Db6BC)
Posted by: willy at October 11, 2012 06:04 PM (kUCQ4)
Posted by: 56 and loving RR at October 11, 2012 06:04 PM (9zugO)
Posted by: SGT Dan at October 11, 2012 06:04 PM (dqSmk)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 11, 2012 06:05 PM (X3lox)
She's having a fucking conversation with Biden. Step the fuck up Ryan. Damn.
Posted by: HtP at October 11, 2012 06:05 PM (jx2j9)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at October 11, 2012 06:05 PM (Br3eE)
Posted by: SGT Dan at October 11, 2012 06:05 PM (dqSmk)
Posted by: JewishOdysseus at October 11, 2012 06:05 PM (WCzJ6)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 11, 2012 06:05 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: eman at October 11, 2012 06:05 PM (+XD7n)
Posted by: steevy at October 11, 2012 06:06 PM (6o4Fb)
Posted by: tasker at October 11, 2012 06:06 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: pat at October 11, 2012 06:06 PM (UFxap)
Posted by: Ed Anger at October 11, 2012 06:06 PM (tOkJB)
Posted by: The Political Hat at October 11, 2012 06:06 PM (sZTYJ)
Posted by: go P90X at October 11, 2012 06:06 PM (LpQbZ)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at October 11, 2012 06:06 PM (Br3eE)
Posted by: SGT Dan at October 11, 2012 06:06 PM (dqSmk)
Posted by: CJL at October 11, 2012 06:06 PM (ZSuy1)
...but tat doesn't excuse Ryan from being a fucking patsy
Posted by: Albie Damned at October 11, 2012 06:06 PM (Yhu4q)
Posted by: osu at October 11, 2012 06:07 PM (vgMWF)
Posted by: JewishOdysseus at October 11, 2012 06:07 PM (WCzJ6)
Posted by: antisocialist at October 11, 2012 06:07 PM (j/nZn)
Posted by: harleycowboy at October 11, 2012 06:07 PM (wSTfB)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 11, 2012 06:07 PM (HC7j7)
Go for the throat.
Posted by: 13times at October 11, 2012 06:07 PM (h6XiD)
Posted by: nerdygirl at October 11, 2012 06:07 PM (LhJo8)
Posted by: JewishOdysseus at October 11, 2012 10:05 PM (WCzJ6)
CNN has a running total on their web site... Right now it's 30:27 for Biden, 28:51 for Ryan
Posted by: George W Beagle at October 11, 2012 06:07 PM (enmpX)
Posted by: DangerGirl (@deadlyestrogen) at October 11, 2012 06:07 PM (GrtrJ)
Posted by: Jimi at October 11, 2012 06:07 PM (6sLo8)
Posted by: George W Beagle at October 11, 2012 06:07 PM (enmpX)
Posted by: Sassy at October 11, 2012 06:07 PM (3HMHV)
Posted by: kathysayso at October 11, 2012 06:08 PM (7nu1g)
Posted by: CJL at October 11, 2012 10:06 PM (ZSuy1)
Fucking exactly...Ryan is giving that perception by backing down..it makes him look weak
Posted by: Albie Damned at October 11, 2012 06:08 PM (Yhu4q)
Posted by: Tocquevillian at October 11, 2012 06:08 PM (iuY0Y)
Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at October 11, 2012 06:09 PM (4ramR)
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at October 11, 2012 06:09 PM (KL49F)
Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at October 11, 2012 06:09 PM (DGIjM)
Posted by: Iowa Bob at October 11, 2012 06:09 PM (gIrkv)
This is MEH.
Posted by: Billy Bob, the guy who drinks in SC at October 11, 2012 06:09 PM (wR+pz)
Posted by: Nicholas Kronos at October 11, 2012 06:09 PM (h9gW0)
Posted by: Bomber at October 11, 2012 06:09 PM (84w+B)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 11, 2012 06:09 PM (PHb2k)
Posted by: derit at October 11, 2012 06:09 PM (I88Jc)
Posted by: George W Beagle at October 11, 2012 10:07 PM (enmpX)
I don't think they are taking into account all of the fucking interruptions.
Posted by: kathysayso at October 11, 2012 06:09 PM (7nu1g)
Posted by: waelse1 at October 11, 2012 06:09 PM (FFfkF)
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at October 11, 2012 06:09 PM (KL49F)
Posted by: lael at October 11, 2012 06:09 PM (r7XUK)
Posted by: Bomber at October 11, 2012 06:09 PM (84w+B)
Posted by: Jimi at October 11, 2012 06:10 PM (6sLo8)
Posted by: Sassy at October 11, 2012 06:10 PM (3HMHV)
Posted by: Christina Hendricks's Mighty Jugs Reporting for Duty at Romney HQ at October 11, 2012 06:10 PM (NHR2W)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 11, 2012 06:10 PM (piMMO)
You aint' painting a pretty picture of the Administration. Keep your smirking and laughing up, asswipe.
Posted by: DangerGirl (@deadlyestrogen) at October 11, 2012 06:10 PM (GrtrJ)
Posted by: willy at October 11, 2012 06:10 PM (kUCQ4)
Posted by: George W Beagle at October 11, 2012 10:07 PM (enmpX)
I don't think they are taking into account all of the fucking interruptions.
Posted by: kathysayso at October 11, 2012 10:09 PM (7nu1g)
True - or the talking-over Ryan by Joe and Martha...
Posted by: George W Beagle at October 11, 2012 06:10 PM (enmpX)
As far as a debate goes, this sucks. She's like Lehrer for Biden and she 'moderates' for Ryan.
Ryan needs to beat down on this point.
Posted by: HtP at October 11, 2012 06:10 PM (jx2j9)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 11, 2012 06:10 PM (X3lox)
Posted by: Iowa Bob at October 11, 2012 10:09 PM (gIrkv)
There is a difference between talking and making sense
Posted by: Red Shirt at October 11, 2012 06:10 PM (3p2TP)
Posted by: alex brown at October 11, 2012 06:10 PM (ewOgA)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 11, 2012 06:10 PM (bxiXv)
Sad to say, but to many, assertiveness = competence.
Posted by: Torch-Wielding Villager at October 11, 2012 06:11 PM (sTS/8)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 11, 2012 06:11 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Adam at October 11, 2012 06:11 PM (/YJYi)
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at October 11, 2012 06:11 PM (KL49F)
Posted by: The Political Hat at October 11, 2012 06:11 PM (sZTYJ)
Posted by: rickl at October 11, 2012 06:12 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at October 11, 2012 06:12 PM (KL49F)
Posted by: parteagirl at October 11, 2012 06:12 PM (58E0t)
Posted by: eman at October 11, 2012 06:12 PM (+XD7n)
Posted by: DangerGirl (@deadlyestrogen) at October 11, 2012 06:12 PM (GrtrJ)
Posted by: kathysayso at October 11, 2012 06:12 PM (7nu1g)
Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 11, 2012 06:12 PM (dX4hn)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 11, 2012 06:12 PM (HC7j7)
http://tinyurl.com/9ddwbof
Posted by: IdowhatIwant at October 11, 2012 06:12 PM (a4CUi)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 11, 2012 06:12 PM (bxiXv)
Gas - $6.44 a gallon for regular.
Shell Station
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Posted by: Barry Ofuckstick at October 11, 2012 06:12 PM (vwDmm)
Posted by: Daily Dish at October 11, 2012 06:13 PM (+b3dK)
Posted by: Palandine at October 11, 2012 06:13 PM (g7D8V)
I'm having a tough time not launching the laptop through the TV screen.
Posted by: Bomber at October 11, 2012 06:13 PM (84w+B)
Posted by: California red at October 11, 2012 06:13 PM (DXTKe)
Come on Ryan, talk about Obama's flexibility with Vladimir.
Fuck! Stop agreeing with them. You are against them.
Posted by: HtP at October 11, 2012 06:13 PM (jx2j9)
Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at October 11, 2012 06:13 PM (4ramR)
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at October 11, 2012 06:13 PM (KL49F)
Posted by: Matt at October 11, 2012 06:13 PM (1ha9G)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 11, 2012 06:13 PM (nk6KF)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at October 11, 2012 06:14 PM (Br3eE)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 11, 2012 06:14 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Buckeye Abroad at October 11, 2012 06:14 PM (oqAVp)
Posted by: Burn the Witch at October 11, 2012 06:14 PM (TJ/PF)
Posted by: TheGAGLine at October 11, 2012 06:14 PM (EXZZI)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 11, 2012 10:13 PM (nk6KF)
Agree completely - the body language from Joe is HORRIBLE.
Posted by: George W Beagle at October 11, 2012 06:15 PM (enmpX)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 11, 2012 06:15 PM (X3lox)
Posted by: StuckonStupid at October 11, 2012 06:15 PM (f/0ub)
Posted by: President For Life Obama at October 11, 2012 06:15 PM (Db6BC)
Posted by: LASue at October 11, 2012 06:15 PM (gjIQF)
Posted by: Sassy at October 11, 2012 06:15 PM (3HMHV)
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at October 11, 2012 06:15 PM (KL49F)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 11, 2012 06:15 PM (lOmbq)
Posted by: DizzyMissL at October 11, 2012 06:15 PM (8S+r3)
Posted by: TheGAGLine at October 11, 2012 10:14 PM (EXZZI)
Careful...you're not toeing the PollyAnna line
Posted by: Albie Damned at October 11, 2012 06:16 PM (Yhu4q)
Posted by: Iowa Bob at October 11, 2012 06:16 PM (gIrkv)
Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at October 11, 2012 06:16 PM (DGIjM)
Posted by: Torch-Wielding Villager at October 11, 2012 06:16 PM (sTS/8)
Eh, that fucking station gets the Disney tourist business trying to get onto I-4... they've always gouged. The rest of the area is about $3.50-3.60ish.
Posted by: Evil Otto at October 11, 2012 06:16 PM (VPMjy)
Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at October 11, 2012 06:16 PM (4ramR)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 11, 2012 06:16 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: phoenixgirl what did huma abedin know? team dagny at October 11, 2012 06:16 PM (Ho2rs)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 11, 2012 06:16 PM (PHb2k)
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at October 11, 2012 06:16 PM (KL49F)
Posted by: Burn the Witch at October 11, 2012 06:17 PM (TJ/PF)
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna at October 11, 2012 06:17 PM (9+ccr)
Posted by: George W Beagle at October 11, 2012 10:16 PM (enmpX)
Yeah, I hear that too! Why the hell would he snort at that point?
Posted by: Tami at October 11, 2012 06:17 PM (X6akg)
Posted by: Sassy at October 11, 2012 06:17 PM (3HMHV)
Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 11, 2012 06:17 PM (dX4hn)
Posted by: RWC at October 11, 2012 06:17 PM (t+Sdx)
Posted by: TheGAGLine at October 11, 2012 06:17 PM (EXZZI)
Objective view from an outsider. Biden started surprisingly strong in spoiling tactics. He does "folksy" ok. Ryan, not so much. Biden coming across as more likeable. Ryan gets stronger after the first half hour or so. When it gets to economics, he is more convincing than Biden. But Biden still comes across as "sincere". Overall, so far, it appears to be something of a draw.
Biden does well the drunken uncle everyone likes, even though he's an ass. But Ryan has a certain something that makes me like him very much- he reminds me of Edward Norton in serious mode. He does has a convincincing gravitas.
Posted by: otho at October 11, 2012 06:17 PM (yBF/9)
Posted by: dayton denise at October 11, 2012 06:17 PM (18kV8)
Posted by: kathysayso at October 11, 2012 06:18 PM (7nu1g)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at October 11, 2012 06:18 PM (Br3eE)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 11, 2012 06:18 PM (X3lox)
Posted by: George W Beagle at October 11, 2012 06:18 PM (enmpX)
Posted by: Bomber at October 11, 2012 06:18 PM (84w+B)
Posted by: RWC at October 11, 2012 06:18 PM (t+Sdx)
Posted by: lockmaster at October 11, 2012 06:18 PM (8kcSh)
Posted by: brass pair at October 11, 2012 06:18 PM (5e9ni)
Posted by: President For Life Obama at October 11, 2012 06:18 PM (Db6BC)
Posted by: StuckonStupid at October 11, 2012 06:18 PM (f/0ub)
Posted by: TheGAGLine at October 11, 2012 06:18 PM (EXZZI)
A lot of people are walking away from this hating this man.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 11, 2012 06:18 PM (dX4hn)
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at October 11, 2012 06:19 PM (KL49F)
Posted by: DangerGirl (@deadlyestrogen) at October 11, 2012 06:19 PM (GrtrJ)
Posted by: USS Diversity at October 11, 2012 06:20 PM (0CiTm)
Posted by: Sharon at October 11, 2012 06:20 PM (DtEq4)
Posted by: derit at October 11, 2012 06:20 PM (I88Jc)
Posted by: StuckonStupid at October 11, 2012 06:20 PM (f/0ub)
Posted by: buzzion at October 11, 2012 06:20 PM (LOCID)
Posted by: MrC_5150 at October 11, 2012 06:20 PM (UeuU/)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 11, 2012 06:20 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: davidt at October 11, 2012 06:20 PM (8/bPb)
Posted by: tasker at October 11, 2012 06:21 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: USS Diversity at October 11, 2012 06:21 PM (0CiTm)
Posted by: kathysayso at October 11, 2012 06:21 PM (7nu1g)
Posted by: lowandslow at October 11, 2012 06:21 PM (GZitp)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 11, 2012 06:21 PM (X3lox)
Posted by: @PurpAv at October 11, 2012 06:21 PM (/Rb3s)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 11, 2012 06:21 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at October 11, 2012 06:21 PM (KL49F)
Posted by: nuclearjim at October 11, 2012 06:21 PM (H8H9R)
Posted by: President For Life Obama at October 11, 2012 06:22 PM (Db6BC)
Posted by: Travis at October 11, 2012 06:22 PM (ychgM)
Posted by: lockmaster at October 11, 2012 10:20 PM (8kcSh)
Save yourself and your tv and turn it off!
Posted by: Red Shirt at October 11, 2012 06:22 PM (3p2TP)
Posted by: tasker at October 11, 2012 06:22 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: kathysayso at October 11, 2012 06:22 PM (7nu1g)
"Even if he pulls facts and figures out of his ass, most listeners will never know it."
This is unfortunately true.
Posted by: harleycowboy at October 11, 2012 06:22 PM (wSTfB)
Posted by: DangerGirl (@deadlyestrogen) at October 11, 2012 06:22 PM (GrtrJ)
Posted by: eman at October 11, 2012 06:22 PM (+XD7n)
YAY!!!
What speech was it that Clinton gave that went on for like two weeks and when he said "in conclusion" the crowd went wild?
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Whiteboard 2012 at October 11, 2012 06:22 PM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 11, 2012 06:22 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: George W Beagle at October 11, 2012 06:22 PM (enmpX)
Posted by: HtP at October 11, 2012 06:22 PM (jx2j9)
Posted by: rickl at October 11, 2012 06:23 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: osu at October 11, 2012 06:23 PM (vgMWF)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 11, 2012 06:23 PM (lOmbq)
Posted by: kathysayso at October 11, 2012 10:22 PM (7nu1g)
I believe JAG corps.
Posted by: Tami at October 11, 2012 06:23 PM (X6akg)
Posted by: President For Life Obama at October 11, 2012 06:23 PM (Db6BC)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 11, 2012 06:23 PM (nk6KF)
1013 I just tuned in...has this bitch interrupted Joe as much as Ryan??
--------
No. Not even close.
She lets Joe blather on and on...and cuts Ryan off before he can finish an answer.
Posted by: wheatie at October 11, 2012 06:23 PM (l5RhJ)
Posted by: Warthog at October 11, 2012 06:23 PM (OixJo)
i don't think Ryan is doing badly at all he is keeping Biden from wiping out the gains made by Romney,thats an win in my book.and biden is looking like a a smug prick
Posted by: kj at October 11, 2012 06:23 PM (qEts0)
Posted by: BlackOrchid-StillMissingDagny at October 11, 2012 06:23 PM (J6kXj)
Posted by: HtP at October 11, 2012 06:23 PM (jx2j9)
Posted by: Jimi at October 11, 2012 06:24 PM (6sLo8)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 11, 2012 06:24 PM (X3lox)
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna at October 11, 2012 06:24 PM (9+ccr)
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna at October 11, 2012 10:17 PM (9+ccr)
_____________________
Biden has overwhelmed the proceedings trying to get his talking points into the discussion. It remains to be seen whether his perpetually interrupting manner will have a positive or negative impact. Ryan was deferential to the point of being overwhelmed at times, but he was generally calm as he got his points in as he was battling both Biden and the moderator. Once again, the Dem will get at least three minutes more time than the Republican.
Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at October 11, 2012 06:24 PM (4ramR)
Posted by: Barry S at October 11, 2012 06:24 PM (9lEto)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 11, 2012 06:24 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Warthog at October 11, 2012 10:23 PM (OixJo)
Oh, Biden tried the Jack Kennedy thing - it was particularly lame...
Posted by: George W Beagle at October 11, 2012 06:24 PM (enmpX)
Posted by: ConcealedKerry or SubMitt at October 11, 2012 06:24 PM (jLqSg)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 11, 2012 06:24 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Whiteboard 2012 at October 11, 2012 06:24 PM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: kathysayso at October 11, 2012 06:24 PM (7nu1g)
Posted by: Ed Anger at October 11, 2012 06:24 PM (tOkJB)
Posted by: LameStreamMedia at October 11, 2012 06:25 PM (WCzJ6)
Posted by: DangerGirl (@deadlyestrogen) at October 11, 2012 06:25 PM (GrtrJ)
Posted by: HtP at October 11, 2012 06:25 PM (jx2j9)
Posted by: TheGAGLine at October 11, 2012 06:25 PM (EXZZI)
Posted by: steevy at October 11, 2012 06:25 PM (6o4Fb)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 11, 2012 06:25 PM (X3lox)
Posted by: George W Beagle at October 11, 2012 06:25 PM (enmpX)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 11, 2012 06:25 PM (nk6KF)
Posted by: tasker at October 11, 2012 06:25 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: lockmaster at October 11, 2012 06:25 PM (8kcSh)
Posted by: JewishOdysseus at October 11, 2012 06:26 PM (WCzJ6)
They're not addressing Mensa here
Perception is reality. Ryan was not forceful enough with his points. He backed down and got rolled repeatedly.
Romney was effective because he did not let Lehrer control the debate.
Whoever coached and prepped Ryan fucked up. If you don't want to hear that..tough shit
Posted by: Albie Damned at October 11, 2012 06:26 PM (Yhu4q)
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna at October 11, 2012 06:26 PM (9+ccr)
Posted by: conrad6 at October 11, 2012 06:26 PM (RzeII)
Joe was insane, Raddatz is a partisan scrunt. Ryan held up well but basically got shouted at alot.
Like debating against Chuckles the Clown, it demeaned him.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 11, 2012 06:26 PM (uhAkr)
"How in the #$%^ did abortion get to be the defining moment of this debate!!!!!!!!!!! Ryan is a $%^ IDIOT to fall into this trap."
Right, because Ryan was obviously in control of this fiasco.
Asshole.
Way too much concern on this thread.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at October 11, 2012 06:26 PM (TJ/PF)
Posted by: HtP at October 11, 2012 06:26 PM (jx2j9)
Posted by: JewishOdysseus at October 11, 2012 10:26 PM (WCzJ6)
First question.
Posted by: Tami at October 11, 2012 06:26 PM (X6akg)
Posted by: StuckonStupid at October 11, 2012 06:26 PM (f/0ub)
Posted by: Sassy at October 11, 2012 06:26 PM (3HMHV)
Posted by: lockmaster at October 11, 2012 06:27 PM (8kcSh)
Posted by: JewishOdysseus at October 11, 2012 06:27 PM (WCzJ6)
Posted by: Advo at October 11, 2012 06:27 PM (qJaXF)
Posted by: StuckonStupid at October 11, 2012 06:27 PM (f/0ub)
Posted by: rickl at October 11, 2012 06:27 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: A. at October 11, 2012 06:27 PM (UQcYU)
Posted by: kathysayso at October 11, 2012 06:27 PM (7nu1g)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 11, 2012 06:27 PM (0nogT)
Ryan got in a good answer....and the Moderator bitch acted like she didn't know what to do.
"Uh, uh uh..."
Gah.
Posted by: wheatie at October 11, 2012 06:27 PM (l5RhJ)
Posted by: tasker at October 11, 2012 06:28 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: misty at October 11, 2012 06:28 PM (vOIWq)
Posted by: JewishOdysseus at October 11, 2012 06:28 PM (WCzJ6)
Posted by: ConcealedKerry or SubMitt at October 11, 2012 06:28 PM (jLqSg)
Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at October 11, 2012 06:28 PM (4ramR)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 11, 2012 06:28 PM (uhAkr)
Posted by: lockmaster at October 11, 2012 06:28 PM (8kcSh)
If I disagree with your spin ... tough shit yourself, superstar.
Posted by: Waterhouse at October 11, 2012 06:28 PM (vgtXQ)
Posted by: GW McLintock at October 11, 2012 06:28 PM (KmBWA)
Posted by: Eyeore shoving a remote up his ass like the world of warcraft kid at October 11, 2012 06:28 PM (/YJYi)
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at October 11, 2012 06:28 PM (KL49F)
Posted by: waelse1 at October 11, 2012 06:28 PM (FFfkF)
Posted by: Up with people! at October 11, 2012 06:28 PM (kzFo5)
Posted by: StuckonStupid at October 11, 2012 06:28 PM (f/0ub)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 11, 2012 06:28 PM (X3lox)
Posted by: go P90X at October 11, 2012 06:29 PM (LpQbZ)
Posted by: johnc_ex-dem at October 11, 2012 06:29 PM (ACkhT)
Posted by: Daily Dish at October 11, 2012 06:29 PM (+b3dK)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 11, 2012 06:29 PM (bxiXv)
#2 Romney needs to be prepared for stepped up hostility from the moderators.
Posted by: steevy at October 11, 2012 06:29 PM (6o4Fb)
Posted by: brass pair at October 11, 2012 06:29 PM (5e9ni)
Posted by: HtP at October 11, 2012 06:29 PM (jx2j9)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 11, 2012 06:29 PM (X3lox)
Posted by: kathysayso at October 11, 2012 06:29 PM (7nu1g)
Posted by: Sassy at October 11, 2012 06:29 PM (3HMHV)
The country just got introduced Joe the asshole loudmouth who wont shut up when its not his turn
Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka wright at October 11, 2012 06:29 PM (ovpNn)
Posted by: cajun carrot at October 11, 2012 06:29 PM (3jgI1)
Posted by: Christina Hendricks's Mighty Jugs Reporting for Duty at Romney HQ at October 11, 2012 06:30 PM (NHR2W)
Posted by: HtP at October 11, 2012 10:27 PM (jx2j9)
With two fucking minutes to go
Posted by: Albie Damned at October 11, 2012 06:30 PM (Yhu4q)
Posted by: DangerGirl (@deadlyestrogen) at October 11, 2012 06:30 PM (GrtrJ)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 11, 2012 06:30 PM (X3lox)
Posted by: Blind Melon Chitlin Jr at October 11, 2012 06:30 PM (dvLAs)
Posted by: Evan Maughan at October 11, 2012 06:30 PM (AKWgn)
Posted by: lockmaster at October 11, 2012 06:30 PM (8kcSh)
Everyone knows Biden.
Biden would not let Ryan speak.
Biden just sounded like a dope.
Posted by: go P90X at October 11, 2012 06:30 PM (LpQbZ)
Posted by: ConcealedKerry or SubMitt at October 11, 2012 06:30 PM (jLqSg)
Posted by: tasker at October 11, 2012 06:30 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: Jimi at October 11, 2012 06:31 PM (6sLo8)
Posted by: TheGAGLine at October 11, 2012 06:31 PM (EXZZI)
Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at October 11, 2012 06:31 PM (4ramR)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 11, 2012 06:31 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Sassy at October 11, 2012 06:31 PM (3HMHV)
Posted by: The Political Hat at October 11, 2012 06:31 PM (sZTYJ)
I think that's a net win.
This debate will please the left though, since the consider incoherent shouting as, 'speaking truth to power.'
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 11, 2012 06:31 PM (uhAkr)
Posted by: Iowa Bob at October 11, 2012 06:31 PM (gIrkv)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at October 11, 2012 06:31 PM (Br3eE)
Posted by: Serious Cat at October 11, 2012 06:32 PM (zrpqj)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 11, 2012 06:32 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: TheGAGLine at October 11, 2012 10:31 PM (EXZZI)
______________________
He has more Y chromosomes than you, sweetheart.
Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at October 11, 2012 06:32 PM (4ramR)
Posted by: Victoria at October 11, 2012 06:32 PM (tV5ow)
Posted by: Optimizer at October 11, 2012 06:32 PM (As94z)
Posted by: eman at October 11, 2012 06:32 PM (+XD7n)
Posted by: Jimi at October 11, 2012 06:32 PM (6sLo8)
Posted by: MTF at October 11, 2012 06:32 PM (Db6BC)
Posted by: killface at October 11, 2012 06:32 PM (dr0xf)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 11, 2012 06:32 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: tasker at October 11, 2012 06:33 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: Dirks Strewn at October 11, 2012 06:33 PM (Rrc6j)
Posted by: Torch-Wielding Villager at October 11, 2012 06:33 PM (sTS/8)
Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 11, 2012 06:33 PM (dX4hn)
Posted by: osu at October 11, 2012 06:33 PM (vgMWF)
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 46% more DOOM! at October 11, 2012 06:33 PM (MrM2k)
Posted by: StuckonStupid at October 11, 2012 06:33 PM (f/0ub)
Posted by: Eyeore shoving a remote up his ass like the world of warcraft kid at October 11, 2012 06:33 PM (/YJYi)
Posted by: ConcealedKerry or SubMitt at October 11, 2012 06:33 PM (jLqSg)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 11, 2012 06:33 PM (lOmbq)
Posted by: Joe Biden at October 11, 2012 06:33 PM (eNgxB)
Posted by: Iowa Bob at October 11, 2012 06:33 PM (gIrkv)
what the fuck did you want ryan to do? out biden joe biden ? ryan"s job was not to let biden hurt romney and he did that.its up to romney to win the election not ryan
Posted by: kj at October 11, 2012 06:33 PM (qEts0)
Posted by: brass pair at October 11, 2012 06:34 PM (5e9ni)
Posted by: Ed Anger at October 11, 2012 06:34 PM (tOkJB)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 11, 2012 06:34 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: CAC at October 11, 2012 06:34 PM (j8xN0)
****
Go for it!
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 11, 2012 06:34 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at October 11, 2012 06:34 PM (4ramR)
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at October 11, 2012 06:34 PM (KL49F)
"Likable" is now rudely interrupting? Yeah right. Only in O's bizzaro world! I'm trying to watch this as a "neutral" and interrupting is part of the game. I'm viewing this as your average idiot. Which I can do quite easily. Starts out with me liking Biden more. He was spoiling well and still looking ok. Ryan looked kind of uncomfortable and a little untrustworthy. But!, it changed as Biden's prep runs out of steam, and something about Ryan clicked. He's got a compelling cadence and speech style that is offputting at frst but garbs you as he gets more serious. Very Edward Norton like. This idiot rates it as a narrow win to Ryan.
Posted by: otho at October 11, 2012 06:34 PM (yBF/9)
Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at October 11, 2012 06:34 PM (SzAZ7)
Posted by: Fox2! at October 11, 2012 06:34 PM (1Qpmy)
Posted by: HtP at October 11, 2012 06:34 PM (jx2j9)
Posted by: TexasJew at October 11, 2012 06:35 PM (6/bOE)
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at October 11, 2012 06:35 PM (KL49F)
I think she came off worst of all, but Biden looks like a senile old man.
Ryan looked like a sane person arguing with his moonbat sister-in-law and his crazy uncle.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 11, 2012 06:35 PM (uhAkr)
Posted by: Jimi at October 11, 2012 06:35 PM (6sLo8)
Posted by: TheGAGLine at October 11, 2012 10:31 PM (EXZZI)"
So how many Y chromosomes have you gagged on?
Posted by: Burn the Witch at October 11, 2012 06:35 PM (TJ/PF)
Posted by: Ed Anger at October 11, 2012 10:34 PM (tOkJB)
Posted by: Adam at October 11, 2012 06:35 PM (/YJYi)
Posted by: Lizabth at October 11, 2012 06:35 PM (JZBti)
Joe gets destroyed in the aar for a serious bald-faced lie: "We didn't know..."
Posted by: IdowhatIwant at October 11, 2012 06:35 PM (a4CUi)
Posted by: USS Diversity at October 11, 2012 06:35 PM (0CiTm)
You're fucking kidding me, right? The vast majority of people I know believe that the person constantly interrupting is an enormous jackass.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Whiteboard 2012 at October 11, 2012 06:36 PM (Gk3SS)
Biden lost the first half being angry, made up for it later. Ryan was slow and steady and closed like a boss.
Posted by: Tonic Dog at October 11, 2012 06:36 PM (X/+QT)
Posted by: tasker at October 11, 2012 06:36 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: Dirks Strewn at October 11, 2012 06:36 PM (Rrc6j)
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at October 11, 2012 10:35 PM (KL49F)
This.
Posted by: Adam at October 11, 2012 06:36 PM (/YJYi)
Posted by: A Mindful Webworker at October 11, 2012 06:36 PM (lBpVP)
Posted by: derit at October 11, 2012 06:36 PM (I88Jc)
This was like the mirror image of Cheney - Lieberman.
That was boring, but you thought both guys could take over and do an okay job.
This was scary.
Posted by: Nicholas Kronos at October 11, 2012 06:36 PM (h9gW0)
Biden came across as your elderly crazy uncle in the mental ward who paints pictures on his walls with his poo.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 11, 2012 06:36 PM (HC7j7)
Posted by: Lizabth at October 11, 2012 06:36 PM (JZBti)
Posted by: Bomber at October 11, 2012 06:36 PM (84w+B)
Posted by: Throat Wobbler Mangrove at October 11, 2012 06:36 PM (l57Cl)
"I'm so sick of Joe's shit I'm about to curse in spanish"
Me too and I don't even know Spanish.
Posted by: harleycowboy at October 11, 2012 06:36 PM (wSTfB)
Posted by: dogfish at October 11, 2012 06:36 PM (N2yhW)
Posted by: 56 and loving RR at October 11, 2012 06:37 PM (9zugO)
Posted by: tasker at October 11, 2012 06:37 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: cajun carrot at October 11, 2012 06:37 PM (3jgI1)
Biden sure was desperate to get his Lloyd Bentson moment in when he accused Ryan of "being JFK"; didn't work tho.
I still can't see how ppl will think Biden won; he laughed like Gore sighed. He interrupted. He was abusive and rude.
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at October 11, 2012 06:37 PM (KL49F)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at October 11, 2012 06:37 PM (i0vBR)
Posted by: Tami at October 11, 2012 06:37 PM (X6akg)
Posted by: Bryan at October 11, 2012 06:37 PM (+16AM)
On points, Ryan did better than Palin; and Biden did about the same as in 2008. I thought Ryan could have done better on foreign policy and on entitlements, but Ryan did kick ass on the tax issue.
But Biden was much more of an ASSHOLE this time around. This constant chuckling and grinning was horrible. Macabre, in places.
Posted by: boulder hobo at October 11, 2012 06:37 PM (QTHTd)
Prediction: we hold House, win Senate and win Presidency. Bank it, bitches.
Posted by: DangerGirl (@deadlyestrogen) at October 11, 2012 06:37 PM (GrtrJ)
Posted by: Picasa Tucasa at October 11, 2012 06:37 PM (MPItq)
Posted by: Bomber at October 11, 2012 06:37 PM (84w+B)
I watched this debate with several family members, many of them were women, democrats, not one of them came off leaning away from Romney. The rudeness of Biden was a huge turnoff for them, he kept interrupting not to make a point but to stop ryan from speaking.
Posted by: johnc_ex-dem at October 11, 2012 06:37 PM (ACkhT)
Oh yeah. His wife is a real woofer, when she came up on stage, I thought she WAS his Mother.
Posted by: Will Never Vote For a dhimmocrat at October 11, 2012 06:37 PM (kXoT0)
i knew biden was a crank but never thought he was a prick until tonight so i think the debate was about even with the help of bthe scrunt but biden ends up the loser
Posted by: kj at October 11, 2012 06:37 PM (qEts0)
Posted by: Buzzsaw at October 11, 2012 06:38 PM (0aTEo)
Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at October 11, 2012 06:38 PM (iL9Kk)
Posted by: Bomber at October 11, 2012 06:38 PM (84w+B)
Posted by: Optimizer at October 11, 2012 06:38 PM (As94z)
Posted by: Throat Wobbler Mangrove at October 11, 2012 10:36 PM (l57Cl)
Amen.
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at October 11, 2012 06:38 PM (KL49F)
Posted by: teej says go K-State at October 11, 2012 06:38 PM (K4AdI)
"Ryan: -10% respect"
What did you want him to do?
If this were Dick Cheney he would have torn the moderator up into ribbons, but people already thought he was a Dark Lord.
Ryan's supposed to be a boy scout. He can't lay into the scrunt.
Mitt better be careful though. They are going to come after him hard at the next debate.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 11, 2012 06:38 PM (uhAkr)
Posted by: Tonic Dog at October 11, 2012 06:38 PM (X/+QT)
Posted by: tasker at October 11, 2012 06:38 PM (r2PLg)
****
You really need to catch the replay in 30 minutes or so.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 11, 2012 06:38 PM (piMMO)
Biden tried to look at his dick. Saw the top of Martha's head.
Posted by: Bomber at October 11, 2012 06:38 PM (84w+B)
KTrinko: "Ryan 2016 did not begin tonight." Similar shit from Cooke, Foster and Punnuru all night.
Posted by: Torch-Wielding Villager at October 11, 2012 06:39 PM (sTS/8)
Posted by: davidt at October 11, 2012 06:39 PM (8/bPb)
If you missed that, you're either blind or a total dumbass.
Posted by: Ed Anger at October 11, 2012 10:34 PM (tOkJB)
...an that opponent of Haystack Calhoun knew Haystack would use the chair and the ref would look away...and would get fucking clobbered even though he should have known it was coming...but didn't because he wasn't prepped
Posted by: Albie Damned at October 11, 2012 06:39 PM (Yhu4q)
Yeah, it's an exercise in futility.
***
Hell, the comments section IS live-blogging.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 11, 2012 06:39 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at October 11, 2012 06:39 PM (4ramR)
Posted by: Dr. Varno at October 11, 2012 06:39 PM (CCE1r)
Posted by: tasker at October 11, 2012 06:40 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: willy at October 11, 2012 06:40 PM (kUCQ4)
It was nice of Biden and Ryan to show up for the Martha Raddatch
; margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt; line-height: normal;" class="MsoNormal">soliloquy. Lehrer did a MUCH better job. She could have done the same. ; margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt; line-height: normal;" class="MsoNormal"> ; margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt; line-height: normal;" class="MsoNormal"> .Posted by: Dirks Strewn at October 11, 2012 06:40 PM (Rrc6j)
Posted by: Bomber at October 11, 2012 06:40 PM (84w+B)
I totally disagree. That wasn't "dominance," that was just being an asshole.
I think the Obama camp saw what happened at the Romney/ Obama debate and this is what they learned: Romney came off as the alpha to Obama's beta.
So the plan going in to this one was for Biden to go for the alpha role. (That this was the plan is corroborated by the fact that this is precisely the meme being pushed by the concern trolls on this thread.)
But "alpha" is a very different thing from "asshole." Romney dominated, but throughout the debate he was unfailingly polite, respectful, likable, calm, had gravitas.
Biden didn't "dominate." He was a ridiculous childish creepy smug disrespectful bully, without any gravitas whatsoever.
In my book, Ryan, who kept his cool throughout (one against two), was the real alpha at that table.
And Biden was the asshole.
Posted by: lael at October 11, 2012 06:40 PM (r7XUK)
I have always fucked the debate team at George Washington U, and after tonight's debate, I looked forward to fucking Joe Biden.
Posted by: Sandra Fluke at October 11, 2012 06:40 PM (lDWQr)
Posted by: TheGAGLine at October 11, 2012 06:40 PM (EXZZI)
You should have just hung out here with us in the cheap seats--although it crashed big time for awhile.
====
I did, and everything I had up crashed!
Posted by: USS Diversity at October 11, 2012 06:41 PM (0CiTm)
Posted by: tofer732 at October 11, 2012 06:41 PM (m5Iwq)
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at October 11, 2012 06:41 PM (YjDyJ)
Posted by: Bomber at October 11, 2012 06:41 PM (84w+B)
Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at October 11, 2012 06:41 PM (yJYwC)
Posted by: Natasha at October 11, 2012 06:42 PM (pyYXJ)
Posted by: Daily Dish at October 11, 2012 06:42 PM (+b3dK)
Posted by: Fritz at October 11, 2012 06:42 PM (vm7ot)
Posted by: eman at October 11, 2012 06:42 PM (+XD7n)
Posted by: TheGAGLine at October 11, 2012 10:40 PM (EXZZI)
________________
Let me be frank: I think you're a troll.
Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at October 11, 2012 06:42 PM (4ramR)
Posted by: Tonic Dog at October 11, 2012 06:42 PM (X/+QT)
Posted by: derit at October 11, 2012 06:42 PM (I88Jc)
Posted by: TheGAGLine at October 11, 2012 10:40 PM (EXZZI)
Jacking off to Big Ass magazine in your mommy's basement is not a small business
Posted by: TexasJew at October 11, 2012 06:43 PM (6/bOE)
You're fucking kidding me, right? The vast majority of people I know believe that the person constantly interrupting is an enormous jackass.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Whiteboard 2012 at October 11, 2012 10:36 PM
He was doing it rather well at first. Looked like the plan was to throw Ryan off his game and prevent him from landing a fatal punch. Yes, later,Biden kind of lost me later on and it became tiresome and kind of desperate. Ryan wins. Not by a huge margin, but it's a win.
Posted by: otho at October 11, 2012 06:43 PM (yBF/9)
Posted by: Buzzsaw at October 11, 2012 10:38 PM (0aTEo)
The MSM didn't decide the winner last week; hopefully the ppl were turned off by Biden being abusive.
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at October 11, 2012 06:43 PM (KL49F)
Posted by: Jimi at October 11, 2012 06:43 PM (6sLo8)
Posted by: The Political Hat at October 11, 2012 06:43 PM (sZTYJ)
Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at October 11, 2012 06:43 PM (SzAZ7)
Posted by: troyriser at October 11, 2012 06:43 PM (ptcFO)
Posted by: Bomber at October 11, 2012 06:43 PM (84w+B)
Biden wasn't 'dominant.' He came across as obnoxious. Dominant people would tear an argument apart after it was done and move the debate. He was, like Ryan said, under duress.
And then he went strangely quiet and dull towards the end. He looked like a crazy old man.
But he roused the base by shouting at Ryan. But that won't work in the presidential debate.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 11, 2012 06:43 PM (uhAkr)
Posted by: JewishOdysseus at October 11, 2012 06:43 PM (WCzJ6)
"Iran having a nuclear bomb is no big deal because they "have nothing to put it in".
I'm sure they've got a UHaul someplace.
Posted by: harleycowboy at October 11, 2012 06:44 PM (wSTfB)
Posted by: Smilin' Joe at October 11, 2012 06:44 PM (Rrc6j)
The clips tomorrow will be of Ryan making a joke about Biden's famous gaffes. Some independents may find Biden is a jerk, and had crazy ideas about Iranian nukes. Nobody is saying Ryan was taken to school.
I call: MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!
Posted by: Optimizer at October 11, 2012 06:44 PM (As94z)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 11, 2012 06:44 PM (0nogT)
Posted by: TheGAGLine at October 11, 2012 10:40 PM (EXZZI)
So do you pick your paycheck up from Axelrod tomorrow or in two weeks? Because if you were paying any attention, you saw that Ryan was calm, cool and factual while Biden was angry, smarmy, smirking and laughing through the whole debate...including the serious issues of Libya, Iran and the economy.
Posted by: DangerGirl (@deadlyestrogen) at October 11, 2012 06:44 PM (GrtrJ)
Posted by: Tonic Dog at October 11, 2012 06:44 PM (X/+QT)
Posted by: Ernie McCracken at October 11, 2012 06:44 PM (ZETiK)
He passed the test a LOT OF PEOPLE needed to see tonight: he looks like he's qualified for the job. At least as qualified as the other guy.
I think that, to borrow a phrase, is a big f**king deal.
Posted by: BurtTC at October 11, 2012 06:44 PM (BeSEI)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 11, 2012 06:44 PM (uhAkr)
Posted by: George Costanza at October 11, 2012 06:45 PM (vgtXQ)
Posted by: Bart who lurks with SMOD 2012, master of his domain at October 11, 2012 06:45 PM (he2LC)
Ross Perot spoke about the crazy aunt in the attic. Tonight we found the crazy uncle from the attic and his name is Joe Biden.
Posted by: Doctor Fish at October 11, 2012 06:45 PM (lDWQr)
Posted by: Jimi at October 11, 2012 06:45 PM (6sLo8)
Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at October 11, 2012 06:45 PM (iL9Kk)
Posted by: Tonic Dog at October 11, 2012 06:45 PM (X/+QT)
Posted by: waelse1 at October 11, 2012 06:45 PM (FFfkF)
Posted by: tasker at October 11, 2012 06:45 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: eman at October 11, 2012 06:45 PM (+XD7n)
Posted by: StuckonStupid at October 11, 2012 06:46 PM (f/0ub)
I'm a republican and i think Biden ate Ryan's lunch.
Posted by: Redman at October 11, 2012 06:46 PM (d0hLa)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 11, 2012 06:46 PM (bxiXv)
And Bush gave him that nod-- priceless.
In this debate, Biden looked as ridiculous and unlikable as Gore did in that one.
Posted by: lael at October 11, 2012 06:46 PM (r7XUK)
Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at October 11, 2012 06:46 PM (4ramR)
Romney had better take this clusterfuck of a debate seriously.
Ryan lost this one. He came across as submissive without strong emotional appeal.
He should have been prepared for the tag-team between Biden and the moderator.
The next Presidential debate will be a town hall and it is a given that Obama will go foll out populist, and try to rally the people against Romney with the assistance of the moderator.
Romney need to take charge at the next Presidential debate and never concede any assumption the "moderator" makes.
I am truly worried about the next Presidential debate now...
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Oh for fucks sake get a grip people. Most polls are actually going to show Ryan won the fucking thing.
Posted by: Rich at October 11, 2012 06:46 PM (pnHKr)
Posted by: Tonic Dog at October 11, 2012 06:47 PM (X/+QT)
Posted by: USS Diversity at October 11, 2012 06:47 PM (0CiTm)
I totally agree. Biden can't be what he never has been; he can't pull it off.
On the other hand, Ryan oozes alpha male----its what he's always has been.
Posted by: 56 and loving RR at October 11, 2012 06:47 PM (9zugO)
Posted by: Stacy at October 11, 2012 06:48 PM (bKOZG)
Posted by: Jimi at October 11, 2012 06:48 PM (6sLo8)
*****
I still want to knock him on his ass for that.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 11, 2012 06:48 PM (piMMO)
Biden would have left with $0.00
Ryan would have left with $200.00
Posted by: @PurpAv at October 11, 2012 06:48 PM (/Rb3s)
"I have watched every presidential and VP debate since the early 60's and I don't think I have ever seen one of the participants as disrespectful as Joe Biden was."
Posted by: Tami at October 11, 2012 06:48 PM (X6akg)
Posted by: Redd at October 11, 2012 06:48 PM (guxHP)
1)Biden is an asshole.
2) Ryan got the single laugh line of the night.
Just on a personal level, that's how it came across.
Posted by: Filly at October 11, 2012 06:48 PM (247Qj)
Posted by: A Mindful Webworker at October 11, 2012 06:48 PM (lBpVP)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 11, 2012 06:48 PM (uhAkr)
"Have never seen someone be so disrespectful to their opponent" ...Chris Wallace.
From Chris Wallace!
Posted by: wheatie at October 11, 2012 06:49 PM (l5RhJ)
I'm a "concern-troll" and I think Biden was an asshole. Ryan kept his cool and held his ground.
Yeah, I think this one is going to end up being a point for the Romney team.
Posted by: boulder hobo at October 11, 2012 06:49 PM (QTHTd)
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at October 11, 2012 06:49 PM (YjDyJ)
Posted by: DangerGirl (@deadlyestrogen) at October 11, 2012 06:49 PM (GrtrJ)
*****
When you feel compelled to announce, "I'm a republican" then the jig is up.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 11, 2012 06:49 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: eman at October 11, 2012 06:49 PM (+XD7n)
Ryan held his own and wrapped up well. Joe looked liked a grinning chimp who was a bit vague and defensive on his answers.. when he wasn't trying to walk all over Ryans transmission. Also, his body language gave off negative vibes alot of people got to see. He was not comfortable.
I think this presidential election is over. All that is left is by how many EVs Romney wins and if we take back the senate.
Posted by: Buckeye Abroad at October 11, 2012 06:49 PM (oqAVp)
Posted by: go P90X at October 11, 2012 06:50 PM (LpQbZ)
Wait, he did and they are.
This is a disaster for them. They just don't know it yet.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 11, 2012 06:50 PM (uhAkr)
Posted by: The Political Hat at October 11, 2012 06:50 PM (sZTYJ)
Posted by: LeBron Steinman at October 11, 2012 06:50 PM (jfWE9)
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at October 11, 2012 06:51 PM (KL49F)
Posted by: USS Diversity at October 11, 2012 10:35 PM (0CiTm)
You probably were as overwhelmed as Joey Biden.
Posted by: rd does not believe the MSM at October 11, 2012 06:51 PM (zLp5I)
Posted by: Ed Anger at October 11, 2012 06:51 PM (tOkJB)
****
Exactly. Then it would have been Ryan beating up on a feeble old man.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 11, 2012 06:51 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Dixiegal at October 11, 2012 06:51 PM (ye++F)
----
Reminds me of a moby concern troll!
Posted by: willy at October 11, 2012 06:51 PM (kUCQ4)
Posted by: Daily Dish at October 11, 2012 06:52 PM (+b3dK)
Posted by: eman at October 11, 2012 06:52 PM (+XD7n)
Posted by: Sassy at October 11, 2012 06:52 PM (3HMHV)
Posted by: StuckonStupid at October 11, 2012 06:53 PM (f/0ub)
1)Biden is an asshole.
2) Ryan got the single laugh line of the night.
Just on a personal level, that's how it came across.
Posted by: Filly
Agreed but there is the denial that more security was requested might have legs.
Posted by: Smilin' Joe at October 11, 2012 06:53 PM (Rrc6j)
Posted by: Joe Biden at October 11, 2012 06:53 PM (Br3eE)
Posted by: Waterhouse at October 11, 2012 06:53 PM (vgtXQ)
The left is astro-turfing. Biden could have said that Iran could have a nuclear weapon and it's no big deal and they'd still concern-troll here.
Wait, he did and they are.
This is a disaster for them. They just don't know it yet.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 11, 2012 10:50 PM (uhAkr)
A delivery vehicle for a nuclear weapon can be a Gulfstream Jet. think of it as a manned cruise missile. How far is it from the airport for Amman Jordan to Tel Aviv or Haifa? 5 minutes? Less?
Remember no-one would ever try this, it might kill the pilot. Just Like 9/11/2011.
Posted by: rd does not believe the MSM at October 11, 2012 06:54 PM (zLp5I)
Posted by: Dixiegal
; margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt;" class="MsoNormal">Obama should just sit out the whole thing like last time.Posted by: Smilin' Joe at October 11, 2012 06:55 PM (Rrc6j)
Posted by: ConcealedKerry or SubMitt at October 11, 2012 06:55 PM (jLqSg)
Posted by: Thorvald at October 11, 2012 06:55 PM (1V6Pv)
Posted by: *required field at October 11, 2012 06:55 PM (L0pQa)
Don't forget that Biden is an accomplished liar, and has been for many years.
It was 25 years ago when he plagiarized Neil Kinnock in a Democrat debate.
There were a lot of assertions about what people had told Biden, on his word.
I sincerely doubt that.
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes....Free Kratos!! at October 11, 2012 06:56 PM (sJTmU)
What's your [modified halo-]theory again on how good impressions follow from one question to another ('likeable' --> 'better at handling economy')? Do you think that the preference cascade will give Ryan a solid 'win impression'?
In other words, it wasn't a blowout Ryan win, but will people see it that way since they're cascading against Obama?
Luntz will tell us soon I hope...
Posted by: Tonic Dog at October 11, 2012 06:56 PM (X/+QT)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at October 11, 2012 06:56 PM (jucos)
Posted by: eman at October 11, 2012 06:57 PM (+XD7n)
Not sure how any "undecideds" will feel. This debate will be largely forgotten by the next one, but I think the press will either give it to Rictus Grin or call it a tie.
Posted by: ChristyBlinky, unbanned, ready to get this done at October 11, 2012 06:57 PM (baL2B)
Posted by: Jimi at October 11, 2012 06:58 PM (6sLo8)
Posted by: Isaac Davis White at October 11, 2012 06:59 PM (Dll6b)
Posted by: Not a Concern Troll at October 11, 2012 06:59 PM (dr0xf)
Posted by: go P90X at October 11, 2012 06:59 PM (LpQbZ)
I should have been commenting. My live comments are lost in space. Not one of them posted
Ha Ha you can get them in now....
Posted by: USS Diversity at October 11, 2012 07:00 PM (0CiTm)
I'm stealing that.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Whiteboard 2012 at October 11, 2012 07:00 PM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: willy at October 11, 2012 07:01 PM (kUCQ4)
Posted by: Jimi at October 11, 2012 07:01 PM (6sLo8)
Posted by: waelse1 at October 11, 2012 07:02 PM (FFfkF)
Posted by: Marybeth at October 11, 2012 07:02 PM (fkaOH)
@1390 Soap MacTavish
Howdy! Oh, I remember that night... sort of. I drank way to much beer. I am still in the magical land of the Euro zone. How are you!? See any of the old gang lately? That other blog... yeah. Cannot remember its name, but glad Ace takes in refugees.
Do not mean to be a prude, but its late and I need to hit the rack. I rarely post, but I do lurk.
Posted by: Buckeye Abroad at October 11, 2012 07:02 PM (oqAVp)
I could see this as a "win" for Biden, strictly from a debate point of view.
But I think it would be a Pyrhic victory. Biden came off in such a negative manner, did not comport himself with the dignity of the office of the Vice-President. Instead behaved like he was down at the old Union Hall in Scranton, arguing with the boys, tossing back a few brewskies.
The Lefty blogs will chortle about it, and say stuff like"This is how Obama should have handled Romney." But I think it will be remembered as a big backfire for Biden.
He reminded me again why he has always been such a pompous asshole. A perfect complement to his boss. No wonder he chose him as a running mate.
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes....Free Kratos!! at October 11, 2012 07:03 PM (sJTmU)
Posted by: gma at October 11, 2012 07:03 PM (2a65d)
Posted by: eman at October 11, 2012 07:03 PM (+XD7n)
Posted by: The Political Hat at October 11, 2012 07:03 PM (sZTYJ)
Posted by: Sassy at October 11, 2012 07:03 PM (3HMHV)
Biden is on his way out, either way, and had nothing to lose.
Posted by: Isaac Davis White at October 11, 2012 07:03 PM (Dll6b)
Posted by: go P90X at October 11, 2012 07:03 PM (LpQbZ)
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at October 11, 2012 07:03 PM (KL49F)
They're still busy with their juice boxes and pudding pops. Maybe after they have their naps.
Posted by: @PurpAv at October 11, 2012 07:04 PM (/Rb3s)
Posted by: StuckonStupid at October 11, 2012 07:04 PM (f/0ub)
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at October 11, 2012 07:05 PM (KL49F)
Posted by: StuckonStupid at October 11, 2012 07:06 PM (f/0ub)
Posted by: Sassy at October 11, 2012 07:06 PM (3HMHV)
Posted by: Filly at October 11, 2012 07:06 PM (247Qj)
Posted by: Red Shirt at October 11, 2012 07:07 PM (FIDMq)
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at October 11, 2012 07:07 PM (KL49F)
Posted by: eman at October 11, 2012 07:07 PM (+XD7n)
Posted by: Damiano at October 11, 2012 07:07 PM (GZjj9)
Posted by: Sassy at October 11, 2012 07:07 PM (3HMHV)
Posted by: Jimi at October 11, 2012 07:08 PM (6sLo8)
http://tinyurl.com/9x3jknb
Biden fucking lied about benghazi
Ed Shitzhead and Sharpton both said that Biden "Didn't tell a single mistruth".
Is there a difference between a mistruth and a fucking lie?
Posted by: hutch1200 at October 11, 2012 07:08 PM (HEkAt)
Posted by: Filly at October 11, 2012 07:08 PM (247Qj)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Whiteboard 2012 at October 11, 2012 11:00 PM (Gk3SS)
That's why I put it up there. :-)
Posted by: Tonic Dog at October 11, 2012 07:08 PM (X/+QT)
Posted by: Sassy at October 11, 2012 07:09 PM (3HMHV)
Posted by: Filly at October 11, 2012 07:09 PM (247Qj)
Posted by: Timmy the Republican at October 11, 2012 07:09 PM (8HhF2)
Posted by: eman at October 11, 2012 07:09 PM (+XD7n)
Posted by: MTF at October 11, 2012 07:10 PM (Db6BC)
Posted by: Jimi at October 11, 2012 07:10 PM (6sLo8)
Posted by: JParker at October 11, 2012 07:11 PM (8HhF2)
Posted by: Filly at October 11, 2012 07:11 PM (247Qj)
Posted by: TheGAGLine at October 11, 2012 07:11 PM (EXZZI)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 11, 2012 07:11 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: ConcealedKerry or SubMitt at October 11, 2012 07:13 PM (jLqSg)
Posted by: Sassy at October 11, 2012 07:13 PM (3HMHV)
Posted by: eman at October 11, 2012 07:13 PM (+XD7n)
****
Undecided voters again?
If anyone can look at Romney and Obama and NOT have made their choice, either way, they shouldn't be allowed to vote.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 11, 2012 07:13 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: waelse1 at October 11, 2012 07:14 PM (FFfkF)
Posted by: Filly at October 11, 2012 07:14 PM (247Qj)
Posted by: eman at October 11, 2012 07:15 PM (+XD7n)
Posted by: builderD at October 11, 2012 07:16 PM (hqKI2)
Posted by: small town girl at October 11, 2012 07:17 PM (9Uq0z)
Posted by: Jimi at October 11, 2012 07:17 PM (6sLo8)
Ryan is a much more forthright individual and not yet accustomed to dealing with flagrant asshattery.
Posted by: JeanQueenie at October 11, 2012 07:17 PM (Gmp2Z)
1) Paul Ryan was not politically hurt nor destroyed by Vice President Biden. In fact, from what I had read, he acted like an adult on a debate whose opponent was a raving lunatic with a moderator whose biases made her a fool.
2) Joe Biden in spite of what the liberal press would say, lost it. From all accounts, he played the part of a drunken heckler to the hilt until he realized that he was not winning by being a jerk at the very end. Mr Biden did not helped President Obama by being rude and obnoxious. In fact, it showed the American people that the Obama Administration is not serious about the problems this nation is currently facing and in this debate, had shown they view them as laughing matters.
3) The Liberal media regardless of who will win the November 6 election is the biggest loser in this election . From now on, they will be on the defensive trying to hold on what they had left .
Posted by: Will at October 11, 2012 07:18 PM (M0NhQ)
Posted by: Can't help but notice at October 11, 2012 07:18 PM (xOiP3)
Posted by: Evan3457 at October 11, 2012 07:18 PM (dTof1)
I suppose that Raddatz and Ryan were both too young to clearly recall what happened on Inauguration Day in 1981. It took about 90 seconds after Reagan was sworn in for Iran to make damn sure that the wheels were up on the aircraft carrying the former American hostages out of Iran.
So - the correct answer would have been to relate that minor historical precedent, and then assure Martha that Iranian recalculation of their position would begin early on 7 November 2012, should Ryan and Romney prevail.
Posted by: Lone Ranger at October 11, 2012 07:19 PM (duVGG)
Posted by: Abe Froman at October 11, 2012 07:24 PM (E55AK)
Posted by: Corona at October 11, 2012 07:25 PM (fh2Y7)
Posted by: trickamsterdam at October 11, 2012 07:26 PM (uTBHY)
Posted by: free at October 11, 2012 07:32 PM (Z5kvH)
Posted by: Kalneva at October 11, 2012 07:33 PM (cQmXn)
Posted by: Spike at October 11, 2012 07:36 PM (UZDaa)
Posted by: Filly at October 11, 2012 07:37 PM (247Qj)
Posted by: Baldy at October 11, 2012 07:37 PM (opS9C)
Posted by: Jordan at October 11, 2012 07:38 PM (MBFJC)
Some lady STUNNED that "they contradicted each other."
Posted by: Filly at October 11, 2012 07:38 PM (247Qj)
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I'm a republican and I was disgusted by Biden. Ryan did fine, he should have - politely- called out the moderator as a friend of Obama. Biden only won on agressiveness, as in the guy in a greasy wife beater T-shirt whose only thing bigger than his pot belly is his mouth.
Posted by: Evan Maughan at October 11, 2012 07:39 PM (AKWgn)
Smiling like he needed a drool bib. And a helmet. Joe is a kool kid and debates are for nerds. Or as I like to call nerds "informed voters w/skin in the game...aka TAXPAYERS!
Posted by: hutch1200 at October 11, 2012 07:39 PM (HEkAt)
Posted by: Filly at October 11, 2012 07:39 PM (247Qj)
Posted by: Filly at October 11, 2012 07:40 PM (247Qj)
598 Christ he had to bring up Palin to associate that with RR.
Posted by: Sassy at October 11, 2012 09:37 PM (3HMHV)
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Yup - had to lie to do it, too. He claimed Palin brought up death panels during the last debate. Obamacare wasn't on the table in the last table - and there was no discussion of death panels. Palin was outspoken on death panels - but never debated Biden about them.
Posted by: lymond at October 11, 2012 07:43 PM (RxLT6)
Posted by: ChristyBlinky, unbanned, ready to get this done at October 11, 2012 07:47 PM (baL2B)
Posted by: hutch1200 at October 11, 2012 07:47 PM (HEkAt)
Posted by: MoFo at October 11, 2012 07:51 PM (GocWQ)
Thank you all for sparing those of us wimps who couldn't hack it.
Posted by: MissfluffyMcNutter at October 11, 2012 07:53 PM (CJ5Km)
Posted by: Matt at October 11, 2012 08:18 PM (1ha9G)
Posted by: Weirddave at October 11, 2012 09:17 PM (aH+zP)
I'm a husky pony-tailed blogger and I think I ate Ryan's Cheetos.
Posted by: Charles "Chunky" Johnson at October 12, 2012 02:10 AM (MhmxX)
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