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November 29, 2012

We're Already In A Recession, Says Analyst
— Ace

Thanks, Obama!

Posted by: Ace at 03:37 PM | Comments (412)
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1 Duh.

Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at November 29, 2012 03:39 PM (zpqa2)

2 Which one of his fucking advisors said Obama was ready to rule from day 1?

Posted by: Mr pink at November 29, 2012 03:39 PM (JyTRJ)

3 The burn. It starts.

Posted by: West Virginia at November 29, 2012 03:39 PM (RZ9DM)

4 At least it will help keep petroleum prices in check. We'll need some of that to help it burn.

Posted by: fluffy at November 29, 2012 03:39 PM (z9HTb)

5 Burn baby burn

Posted by: ET at November 29, 2012 03:40 PM (s72/N)

6 Which one of his fucking advisors said Obama was ready to rule from day 1?

The not very smart one.

Posted by: fluffy at November 29, 2012 03:40 PM (z9HTb)

You guys ready for me?

Posted by: Kreditanstalt at November 29, 2012 03:41 PM (l3vZN)

8 Double down on the double dip. Twice.

Posted by: West Virginia at November 29, 2012 03:41 PM (RZ9DM)

9

Which one of his fucking advisors said Obama was ready to rule from day 1?

Valerie?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at November 29, 2012 03:42 PM (7v/wS)

10
Once more, into the breach!

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 29, 2012 03:42 PM (n/ubI)

Since 2008, when were we ever out of one? There's been no recovery. None.

What we have now is a depression. And it's going to get worse than even that.

Posted by: Soona at November 29, 2012 03:42 PM (oy/E2)

12 More quantitative easing please. We can paper over a shrinking GDP by price inflation. No one will ever know.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at November 29, 2012 03:42 PM (IHIuY)

13 Well double duh.

Posted by: dogfish at November 29, 2012 03:43 PM (NuPNl)

14 Don't you need two consecutive quarters of negativve growth to be in a recession? Where are those two quarters.

Posted by: alex of the old, broken kindle (and a migraine) at November 29, 2012 03:43 PM (aPAIU)

15 We haven't got out of the one that started in '06.

Posted by: BignJames at November 29, 2012 03:43 PM (E2wNQ)

16 They think this is a recession? Wait two months.

Posted by: Butters at November 29, 2012 03:43 PM (NIZHJ)

17 And here I thought the way out of a recession was just by making up random numbers for GDP and unemployment for PAGE ONE that inevitably get downgraded on Page 13F three weeks later!

Posted by: The Q at November 29, 2012 03:44 PM (w4fEE)

18 "We're Already In A Recession, Says Analyst" Bullshit. Bill Clinton said, during his DNC speech, that we would be imminently "feeling economic recovery," and that was only over two-and-a-half months ago. He wouldn't lie to us, would he?

Posted by: BuddyPC at November 29, 2012 03:44 PM (jfUIE)

19 Now that the election is over the revised numbers can be revealed.

Posted by: West Virginia at November 29, 2012 03:44 PM (RZ9DM)

20 Man I hate headaches

Posted by: alex of the female induced migraine at November 29, 2012 03:44 PM (aPAIU)

21 Fucking shocker, there.

Posted by: DangerGirl (@deadlyestrogen) at November 29, 2012 03:44 PM (GrtrJ)

22 6 fluffy, So all the M$M then.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 29, 2012 03:45 PM (LRFds)

23 It was also unexpected, I'm sure.

Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at November 29, 2012 03:45 PM (zpqa2)

24 "The Bush tax cuts that were not paid for" as Obama liked to say and the media never challenged, nor did Romney, generated $785 billion in ADDITIONAL revenue between 2003-2007. That is a function of lower rates across a higher base of economic activity. Why can't Republican's make the case that their policies are good for economic growth AND the resources necessary for a more robust federal government. Democrat proposals sap both. By the way the $785 billion figure is available on the Commerce Department's own website... that would be Obama's Commerce Department. It takes about four mouse clicks to get these numbers. Why did Romney not make this case and put a link to those numbers on his own website? So fucking frustrating.

Posted by: scofflawx at November 29, 2012 03:45 PM (N1Rjx)

25 I had to trade in a gun to buy tires. We're toast.

Posted by: sTevo at November 29, 2012 03:46 PM (VMcEw)

26 Fiscal this!

Posted by: West Virginia at November 29, 2012 03:46 PM (RZ9DM)

27 That thing I did in your mouth -- that's right, unexpected.

Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at November 29, 2012 03:46 PM (zpqa2)

28 Great - we're finally out of the D'ohbama Depression.

Posted by: Gerry at November 29, 2012 03:46 PM (xmffn)

29 I want a job stating the obvious for lots of money. In other news... The semi-sentient syphallitic jackbooted stumblebum Hank "Guam" Johnson is back. Link in sig.

Posted by: Truman North at November 29, 2012 03:46 PM (I2LwF)

30 See how prettily it burns, already?

Posted by: Minesweeper at November 29, 2012 03:46 PM (sMt7r)

31 No problemo, Ace!

Posted by: Obama at November 29, 2012 03:46 PM (opMWG)

32 About the only way the republicans win here is to leave washington altogether. The media has all the angles covered except that one. Republicans set up shop somewhere else and start the alternative government now. Give the Democrats votes to pass everything they want and the total chaos that ensues will be theirs.

There is no way to win short or long term by having Republicans hanging around Washington DC.

None.

Posted by: Tocquevillian at November 29, 2012 03:46 PM (iuY0Y)

33 Lack of a recovery does not a recession make. Although, the obumbles administration is most likely curving the data

Posted by: alex of the nagging induced migraine at November 29, 2012 03:47 PM (aPAIU)

34 Armadillos are starting to be very, very scared.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows 47% got a fever and Uncle Sugar is the only cure at November 29, 2012 03:47 PM (f6hd5)

35 29 Is that sign language?

Posted by: Butters at November 29, 2012 03:48 PM (NIZHJ)

36 Ace, If we aren't on offense we are on defense. Obama is attempting to provoke a constitutional crisis. We must identify one of his surrogates who is weak and sick, go on offense, and get the kill. Fast. I recommend, as others have, some tottering media target. The plan requires actionable things that everyone can do that will hurt them financially today. Alinsky style. Hold the target and bring it down. I recommend the wholesale cancelation of TV subscriptions in all their forms until the news media starts giving fair coverage. Ace, you have a bully pulpit. Other conservative bloggers read you, it can be done. Ace, this is your hour. Take the lead. Call the shot. If we the people don't do something he is going to get his Constitutionsl Crisis.

Posted by: Hopeless at November 29, 2012 03:48 PM (svdpV)

37 Stock up boys and girls.

Stock up.

Posted by: george at November 29, 2012 03:48 PM (qBLA2)

38 If you like your president, you can keep him.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows 47% got a fever and Uncle Sugar is the only cure at November 29, 2012 03:48 PM (f6hd5)

39 Republicans - vote present!

Posted by: West Virginia at November 29, 2012 03:49 PM (RZ9DM)

40 >>>14 Don't you need two consecutive quarters of negativve growth to be in a recession? Where are those two quarters. Posted by: alex of the old, broken kindle (and a migraine) at November 29, 2012 07:43 PM (aPAIU) He spent them of course

Posted by: Truman North at November 29, 2012 03:49 PM (I2LwF)

41 Obama is attempting to provoke a constitutional crisis. How can you possibly say that? It's not like he demanded Congress give up its authority on the debt limit or something. Oh, wait.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows 47% got a fever and Uncle Sugar is the only cure at November 29, 2012 03:50 PM (f6hd5)

42 Oh sure, if an analyst says it... Are we still racists?

Posted by: t-bird at November 29, 2012 03:50 PM (FcR7P)

43 James P and I pointed out we're still recessed. Why I a burnout and the AEI had to do the GOP's work which never got quite done is another story.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 29, 2012 03:50 PM (LRFds)

In other news... The semi-sentient syphallitic jackbooted stumblebum Hank "Guam" Johnson is back. Link in sig.

Can we deduct his oxygen use from his check?

Posted by: BignJames at November 29, 2012 03:50 PM (E2wNQ)

45 That's it then. We need a speech.

Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at November 29, 2012 03:50 PM (zpqa2)

46 We never recovered from the previous one. The numbers were cooked to make it look like the economy was growing again.

Posted by: Al at November 29, 2012 03:51 PM (V70Uh)

47 All we have to do is give him $1.6 trillion in tax increases and the ability to say, "We're not in recession," and then we'll finally get what we always wanted: a promise to cut a miniscule amount of spending 50 years from now.

Posted by: The Q at November 29, 2012 03:51 PM (w4fEE)

48 Can you have a recession with infinite liquidity and most products being produced in third world holes?

Posted by: Butters at November 29, 2012 03:51 PM (NIZHJ)

49 Dissolve Parliament. Arrest Cromwell and his cohorts! Oh, wait a minute...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 29, 2012 03:51 PM (XkWWK)

50 What's to worry? Dear Leader will take care of us. He promised.

Posted by: Soona at November 29, 2012 03:51 PM (oy/E2)

51 Another recession? Is there no low to which Romney won't stoop? Next thing you know he'll eliminate the debt ceiling. Fucking Romney.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at November 29, 2012 03:51 PM (X9Mnx)

52 40: teehee

Posted by: Alex of the lincoln at November 29, 2012 03:52 PM (aPAIU)

53 It's nice to see people near the MSM saying that GDP is a horseshit calculation.

It's the DOOM metric.

Posted by: runninrebel at November 29, 2012 03:52 PM (J4gw3)

54 44 In other news... The semi-sentient syphallitic jackbooted stumblebum Hank "Guam" Johnson is back. Link in sig. Can we deduct his oxygen use from his check? Posted by: BignJames at November 29, 2012 07:50 PM (E2wNQ) The drooling cretin makes Sheila Jackson-Lee look like a genius.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 29, 2012 03:52 PM (XkWWK)

55 How many times can you cook books before they disintegrate?

Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at November 29, 2012 03:52 PM (zpqa2)

56 Statistics are racist

Posted by: Obumbles supporter at November 29, 2012 03:52 PM (aPAIU)

57 The American economy = Disco Inferno.

BURN BABY BURN

Posted by: The Q at November 29, 2012 03:53 PM (w4fEE)

58 logic is racist

Posted by: Obumbles supporter at November 29, 2012 03:53 PM (aPAIU)

59 Shadow President Emmanuel Goldstein hardest hit.

Posted by: Truman North at November 29, 2012 03:53 PM (I2LwF)

60 53: we have heard that for years. why do you think they developed the HDI

Posted by: Obumbles supporter at November 29, 2012 03:54 PM (aPAIU)

61 It's nice to see people near the MSM saying that GDP is a horseshit calculation.

Posted by: runninrebel at November 29, 2012 07:52 PM (J4gw3)

All calculations which cast Dear Leader in an unfavorable light are, by definition, horseshit.

Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at November 29, 2012 03:54 PM (zpqa2)

62 Is there such a thing as a "signing statement" for congressman? If not, invent it and go ahead and pass a bill out of the House with the slimmest majority of only 1 agreeing to raise the top rates only as Obama campaigned on. Hold him to his campaign promise -- or let him veto it -- and let members sign on to a signing statement rebuking their own votes that provides them some semblance of cover. It seems enacting his promises and showing that his policies will tank the economy and not generate any additional revenue will give the 51% exactly what they deserve and put the fall out squarely on Obama's head. Am I missing something?

Posted by: scofflawx at November 29, 2012 03:54 PM (N1Rjx)

63 re: "Since 2008, when were we ever out of one?"

We've been in a depression since the '70s, with the occasional unprecedentedly large and fragile bubble to fool us into thinking we're still awesome. Which is exactly what we're not.

"But oblig., have you not gazed upon the vastness of our TVs? VAAAAAAAASTness! Look at it. That stray pube on that bikini girl is like nine thousand pixels. And we all have really *tiny* TVs, too. Look at 'em all! LOOOK. There's a fuckin' baby with one! It knows how to zoom in to check for pubes! This is...truly...a wonderland."

We used to look for pubes on the moon, man.

Posted by: oblig. at November 29, 2012 03:54 PM (cePv8)

64 57: "The Q" is a gay bar in my city

Posted by: Alex of Lincoln, Nebraska, United States of America, Earth, Sun at November 29, 2012 03:55 PM (aPAIU)

65 In a few years the MSM will be telling people that all is well, GDP is +1.4%, and the people will be saying, "That's great. Hey, buddy, stop eating my brains!!"

Posted by: runninrebel at November 29, 2012 03:55 PM (J4gw3)

66 I hear Obama's next counter offer in negotiations with the GOP will be a demand we sacrifice our first-born sons.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows 47% got a fever and Uncle Sugar is the only cure at November 29, 2012 03:55 PM (f6hd5)

67 My proposal is to henceforth eliminate numbers....they are worse than irrelevant....they're useless.

Posted by: Barky 'i da man" Preezy at November 29, 2012 03:55 PM (E2wNQ)

68 Pubes ? Do people still have those ?

Posted by: Noah Bawdy at November 29, 2012 03:56 PM (dCjum)

69 Did you look at the revisions of Q3 on the chart at zerohedge (a few clicks removed)? Criminal revisions, I'd say. How do you go from zero inventory growth to "err, uh, it's half the GDP" in a revision?

Posted by: t-bird at November 29, 2012 03:56 PM (FcR7P)

70 Non gay sex is racist

Posted by: Obumbles supporter at November 29, 2012 03:56 PM (aPAIU)

71 Not having a prince albert is racist

Posted by: Obumbles supporter at November 29, 2012 03:56 PM (aPAIU)

72 not having pubes is racist

Posted by: Obumbles supporter at November 29, 2012 03:56 PM (aPAIU)

73 Here it comes again. Welcome to my world. Wait. This stuff sometimes blows up cuz of fume build up right? LIB

Posted by: Sewer Pipe at November 29, 2012 03:56 PM (MG6Y6)

74 I hear Obama's next counter offer in negotiations with the GOP will be a demand we sacrifice our first-born sons.

Nope. 22nd Amendment, bitchez. For the children.

Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at November 29, 2012 03:56 PM (zpqa2)

75 Shaving your legs is racist

Posted by: Obumbles supporter at November 29, 2012 03:56 PM (aPAIU)

76 Obama's got electrolytes. It's what the economy craves!

Posted by: Truman North at November 29, 2012 03:56 PM (I2LwF)

77 69 Wrongly place a decimal?

Posted by: Butters at November 29, 2012 03:56 PM (NIZHJ)

78 Not smoking pot is racist

Posted by: Obumbles supporter at November 29, 2012 03:57 PM (aPAIU)

79 22nd Amendment: Racist straight up.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows 47% got a fever and Uncle Sugar is the only cure at November 29, 2012 03:57 PM (f6hd5)

When growth, which is measured in the amount of dollars more spent than previous year, is LESS than REAL Inflation, you are in a recession.

The problem is in how we measure things.... they keep changing the Yard Stick to make things seem better than they are....

If we used the Stats from 1990? We are at just about 5.8% inflation... if we used the 1980 way of figuring Inflation.... 9.8% inflation....

Either way.... GDP growth year on year, is NOT even close to keeping up with inflation....

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 29, 2012 03:58 PM (lZBBB)

That Hank Johnson, what a scamp.

And incompetent, too. So much for the oath of office that says they are to protect and uphold the Constitution.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch is not the Easter Bunny at November 29, 2012 03:58 PM (Md8Uo)

82 Posting too many comments is racist, as is voting republican

Posted by: Obumbles supporter at November 29, 2012 03:58 PM (aPAIU)

83 And the first fingers of flame rise from the tinder.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at November 29, 2012 03:58 PM (0q2P7)

BTW. Before laws are passed that will jail me for this: That goat fucker mohammed can eat my pork-laden shit.

Posted by: Soona at November 29, 2012 03:58 PM (oy/E2)

85 Straight pubes?

Posted by: ET at November 29, 2012 03:58 PM (s72/N)

86 Earning more than $25 per hour is racist.

Posted by: Al at November 29, 2012 03:58 PM (V70Uh)

87 I smell smoke! Good! .... Let's see who suffers the "best". Let's also see who suffers the "most". Maybe a little real heat will have the effect of slapping some sense into the free-phone voters..... yeah, you're right, they will probably just whine louder, but still, ... let it burn!

Posted by: and irresolute at November 29, 2012 03:58 PM (DBH1h)

88 Earning any money is racist

Posted by: Obumbles supporter at November 29, 2012 03:59 PM (aPAIU)

89 I have to stop reading the same shit as ace. I never get any surprises.

ace, try the blog, Good Shit. Has some nudity, run my an old retired Rutgers professor. Pretty eclectic shit. Not to much political, he leans left, but a good source of interest shit, hence the name of the blog.

Insty, HA , DC and AoSHQ. That's the list for me.

I heard a commenter here, Allen something, has a blog? Anyone else hear that?

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at November 29, 2012 03:59 PM (wR+pz)

90 Fire is racist

Posted by: Obumbles supporter at November 29, 2012 03:59 PM (aPAIU)

91 Shorn scrotums are racist.

Posted by: Dr. Evil at November 29, 2012 03:59 PM (NIZHJ)

92 Just another 'correction' here, nothing to see. The Titanic is still sinking.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 29, 2012 04:00 PM (bxLgY)

93 Ace of spades HQ is racist

Posted by: Obumbles supporter at November 29, 2012 04:00 PM (aPAIU)

94 About the claim that Obama is wanting to arrogate budgetary authority to himself? Link, please.

Posted by: Skookumchuk at November 29, 2012 04:00 PM (0Db2g)

95 91: wait what.

Posted by: Obumbles supporter at November 29, 2012 04:00 PM (aPAIU)

96 Did they really laugh little Timmy out of the Senate?

Posted by: Butters at November 29, 2012 04:01 PM (NIZHJ)

And who is the ultimate arbiter of what is racist?

I nominate Al Sharpton. What could go wrong?

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch is not the Easter Bunny at November 29, 2012 04:01 PM (Md8Uo)

98 Is sippin my Makers Mark racist?

Posted by: ET at November 29, 2012 04:01 PM (s72/N)

99 What we have now is a depression. And it's going to get worse than even that.

Posted by: Soona at November 29, 2012 07:42 PM (oy/E2)

Exactly. John died in June of '10 and it was sometime before that (obviously) that he told me that from an accountancy standpoint he was absolutely certain we were already in a depression. Since policy hasn't improved, there's no way that the economy has improved.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, still a Hobbit at November 29, 2012 04:01 PM (NYki8)

100 Numbers are racist

Posted by: Obumbles supporter at November 29, 2012 04:02 PM (aPAIU)

101 97 Right.

Posted by: Zombie Freddy of the Fashionmart at November 29, 2012 04:02 PM (NIZHJ)

102 So where is mister "nothing will burn" trolley troll?

Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at November 29, 2012 04:04 PM (0q2P7)

103 I'm not joking. Conservatives need to exercise their economic muscle, collectively and for a stated purpose, right. now. If 100,000 conservatives all canceled their TV and newspaper subscriptions as part of a coordinated action against the media, it would have the impact of a nuclear bomb on those fucks.

Posted by: Hopeless at November 29, 2012 04:04 PM (svdpV)

104 Umm yeah,and it started before Nov 6th but whatever.

Posted by: steevy at November 29, 2012 04:04 PM (9XBK2)

105 Twinkie's back.

Posted by: Zombie Freddy of the Fashionmart at November 29, 2012 04:04 PM (NIZHJ)

106 98 Is sippin my Makers Mark racist?

Posted by: ET at November 29, 2012 08:01 PM (s72/N)

Did you bring some for everyone?

Posted by: BignJames at November 29, 2012 04:04 PM (E2wNQ)

107 >>Posted by: Soona at November 29, 2012 07:58 PM I'm intrigued by your ideas and would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

Posted by: Y-not at November 29, 2012 04:04 PM (5H6zj)

108

Posted by: Skookumchuk at November 29, 2012 08:00 PM (0Db2g)

Not budgetory authority.... just the ability to raise the debt ceiling on his own...

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 29, 2012 04:04 PM (lZBBB)

109 Off sock.

Posted by: Butters at November 29, 2012 04:05 PM (NIZHJ)

110 Let the citizens of the US start impeachment proceedings, the senate will not do it,we must. Valerie if you are reading the, tell Obama he swore to uphold the Constitution! He's not doing it and should be summarily fired now! Frigging idiots reelected this SCOAMT

Posted by: CarolT at November 29, 2012 04:05 PM (z4WKX)

111 I think at some point you've made enough money.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows 47% got a fever and Uncle Sugar is the only cure at November 29, 2012 04:05 PM (f6hd5)

112 103 hopeless, No they are not a profit point they are aloss leader.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 29, 2012 04:05 PM (LRFds)

113 108, Romeo13 - thanks. Still. Gotta link, anybody?

Posted by: Skookumchuk at November 29, 2012 04:05 PM (0Db2g)

114 It doesn't matter what anyone thinks or says. A recession is defined as 2 or more consecutive quarters of GDP contraction.

Posted by: ToursLepantoVienna at November 29, 2012 04:06 PM (UlI/7)

115 Read the ZeroHedge post that Insty posts.

Of 2.7% increase, 0.67% was attributed to Government Spending and 0.30% attributed Inventory Accumulation (either warehouses getting ready for Black Friday, or nothing getting sold, I don't know).

Second look at bribing the public just before the election, Ace?

Posted by: John P. Squibob at November 29, 2012 04:06 PM (kqqGm)

116 http://dailycaller.com/2012/11/29/conservatives-stop-whining/ See, this is why people complain about RINOs. It's shit like this guy. Here we have a guy, claiming to be a conservative and trying to teach conservatives a lesson. Yet his entire piece is a pro-ObamaCare love story with a little "Some people need government help" thrown in at the end. It's THESE fucking people ruining the Republican party. It's one thing to disagree on the edges. But on the basic core shit, like people being able to help themselves better than the government can if the government would just leave them alone a little more? Nah, that's not something we can tolerate anymore. Either we leave the party, or people like this leave it.

Posted by: Rich at November 29, 2012 04:06 PM (arczc)

117

Posted by: Skookumchuk at November 29, 2012 08:05 PM (0Db2g)

Two threads down....

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 29, 2012 04:06 PM (lZBBB)

118 Polliwog the 'Ette, still a Hobbit

The only thing that has changed is the slope, it has gotten steeper.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 29, 2012 04:07 PM (bxLgY)

119 Recession????....Yaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!!

Posted by: Corky the Retard at November 29, 2012 04:07 PM (CfGGV)

120 "We're Already In A Recession, Says Analyst" Now we know what the Curiosity rover discovered on Mars.

Posted by: eman at November 29, 2012 04:07 PM (57VGh)

121 The only thing keeping this economy from completely flat lining is Uncle Sugar's spending, and even with piles and piles and piles of printed Uncle Sugar Bucks the best we can do is "grow" at about 1%. I hate these cock suckers with the heat of a thousand suns. I really do.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at November 29, 2012 04:07 PM (jucos)

122 I think at some point you've made enough money.

I think at some point, you've been a country long enough.

Posted by: EC at November 29, 2012 04:07 PM (doBIb)

123 115 JP Squibob, Look at fuel prices. They play a different game than we do.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 29, 2012 04:07 PM (LRFds)

124 #94, right here http://tinyurl.com/cedkg6c from reuters

Posted by: BlueFalcon in Boston at November 29, 2012 04:08 PM (KCvsd)

125 Would someone shut fucking O'R up about the damn Christmas tree shit.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at November 29, 2012 04:08 PM (wR+pz)

126 122 EC, I think at some point Western Civ existed long enough...

Posted by: sven10077 at November 29, 2012 04:08 PM (LRFds)

127

Posted by: ToursLepantoVienna at November 29, 2012 08:06 PM (UlI/7)

Soooo.... if'n you have 20% inflation, which means 20% more dollars buying the same shit.... thats 20% growth?

Amazin!

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 29, 2012 04:09 PM (lZBBB)

128 It doesn't matter what anyone thinks or says. A recession is defined as 2 or more consecutive quarters of GDP contraction. Posted by: ToursLepantoVienna

That's the NBRI's definition, and it's one among several.

Last I checked, they weren't elected Emperors of the Dictionary and Economics.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at November 29, 2012 04:09 PM (JEpGb)

129 Help! I'm stuck inside a fortune cookie factory!

Posted by: Truman North at November 29, 2012 04:09 PM (I2LwF)

130 it's all hysterical in a non fun way.
sometimes i just want to know who's running the damn show.

Posted by: willow at November 29, 2012 04:09 PM (hX8cq)

131 I've got an idea for a Constitutional Amenedment.....not original, I'm sure...a recall provision for the presidency.....People....more people...are gonna be real tired of this moron real quick.

Posted by: BignJames at November 29, 2012 04:09 PM (E2wNQ)

132 125 Try Fox Business. If you don't get it? DEMAND IT!!!

Posted by: Neil Cavuto at November 29, 2012 04:10 PM (NIZHJ)

133

I think at some point, you've been a country long enough.

Posted by: EC at November 29, 2012 08:07 PM (doBIb)

Dayum..... looks like we were just 150 Years too soon!

Posted by: CSA at November 29, 2012 04:10 PM (lZBBB)

134 Proper reply to this analyst: "Welcome to the party, pal!"

Posted by: eman at November 29, 2012 04:10 PM (57VGh)

135 Football on.

Posted by: Truman North at November 29, 2012 04:10 PM (I2LwF)

136 i think the constitution is a living , and changeable document, as is the bill or rights.

Posted by: willow at November 29, 2012 04:10 PM (hX8cq)

137 Give him the ability to bypass the ceiling, please!

MiFB

Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at November 29, 2012 04:11 PM (zpqa2)

138 do we have any farewell songs to sing for America?

Posted by: willow at November 29, 2012 04:11 PM (hX8cq)

139 If nominal GDP goes up by 2% and inflation goes up 2.5%, that's a recession, Real GDP went down. That's a recession.

Posted by: Al at November 29, 2012 04:11 PM (V70Uh)

140 120 Eman, Message to NASA: This one found a message-we had to pass it to see what was in it. Signed, former Martian Civilization

Posted by: sven10077 at November 29, 2012 04:11 PM (LRFds)

141 http://tinyurl.com/cedkg6c (Reuters) - The Obama administration's opening bid on Thursday in negotiations to avert a year-end fiscal crunch included a demand for new stimulus spending and authority to unilaterally raise the U.S. borrowing ceiling, a Republican congressional aide said. For all the trolls that don't get it that Obama wants the centralized authority (that of a tyrant) to run the printing presses with no congressional authorization. He could turn the US in Zimbabwe overnight with that unlimited power.

Posted by: BlueFalcon in Boston at November 29, 2012 04:11 PM (KCvsd)

142 eman, well yeah, but half the country just screamed ,'Buuuush.'

Posted by: willow at November 29, 2012 04:12 PM (hX8cq)

143 Help! I'm stuck inside a fortune cookie factory!

Watch It!

Posted by: Zombie Alan King at November 29, 2012 04:12 PM (kqqGm)

144 TN, did you see the video I posted last night? "All I want for Christmas is a Jew"?

Google it up, I think you'll like it.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at November 29, 2012 04:12 PM (wR+pz)

145 Well, in fairness...

Posted by: Pop n' Fresh at November 29, 2012 04:13 PM (57VGh)

146 Soooo.... if'n you have 20% inflation, which means 20% more dollars buying the same shit.... thats 20% growth?

Amazin!

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 29, 2012 08:09 PM (lZBBB)

--------------------------------------------

Yup. Fucking magic, huh? Now look at what I can do with taxes.

Posted by: Baraka the Hussein at November 29, 2012 04:13 PM (oy/E2)

147 i had forgotten to look at how the markets did today.

Posted by: willow at November 29, 2012 04:13 PM (hX8cq)

148 The problem, aside from a media that won't report this stuff, is that this country is run by parasitic slugs at both ends of the economic spectrum who don't know the difference between a good economy and a bad one. They're either always broke or always rich.

Posted by: Sam in VA at November 29, 2012 04:14 PM (YCvRs)

149 147 Wait till the hedgers clear out towards year's end.

Posted by: Neil Cavuto at November 29, 2012 04:15 PM (NIZHJ)

150 Did we have commenters here today who urged the GOP to negotiate in good faith and try to make a reasonable deal?

Posted by: eman at November 29, 2012 04:15 PM (57VGh)

151 RAMMING SPEED!

Posted by: Ben Bernanke, to the drummer controlling the printing presses at November 29, 2012 04:16 PM (uhAkr)

152 Obama's got electrolytes! It's what the economy craves!

Posted by: Truman North at November 29, 2012 04:16 PM (I2LwF)

153 And now for a counter proposal.

NUTS.

Posted by: Butters at November 29, 2012 04:16 PM (NIZHJ)

154 Did we have commenters here today who urged the GOP to negotiate in good faith and try to make a reasonable deal? Posted by: eman

Hollowpoint made a passing attempt but that was before the "Here's my deal: Nothing" was made known.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at November 29, 2012 04:16 PM (JEpGb)

155 I think we need to turn the volume of our response up to elevinity. I think the time has come for a new Constitutional Convention. An attempt to call it from DC and an attempt to call it by the states needs to be made simultaneously. Listen guys: the left hates us and wants power. They're just as eager for it as we are. They'll go along with calling it. It's time for a legal divorce, and the only method of doing that is via ConCon. We have 30 states, they have 12, 8 are sufficiently divided. It's time for a ConCon.

Posted by: Hopeless at November 29, 2012 04:17 PM (dYizu)

156 Funny, See B. S. News is reporting that prosperity is right around the corner. In other news, the chocolate ration is going to be increased.

Posted by: Eorwax of Rohan at November 29, 2012 04:17 PM (y4eis)

157 >>>150 Did we have commenters here today who urged the GOP to negotiate in good faith and try to make a reasonable deal? Posted by: eman at November 29, 2012 08:15 PM (57VGh) I don't recall any. Trolls maybe? No.

Posted by: Truman North at November 29, 2012 04:17 PM (I2LwF)

158 Brother, can you spare $4.85?

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at November 29, 2012 04:17 PM (CxJM2)

159 15% unemployment, here we come!

Posted by: Vlad the Impaler at November 29, 2012 04:18 PM (xk0Xg)

160 I, for one, am tightening my belt and ELIMINATING all discretionary spending.

An Obama voter came by the house today to ask if I wanted my siding and gutters powerwashed. I had to bite my tongue to keep from asking him if he voted for Romney.

It's political. I am not buying anything from the Barbarians.

Posted by: Al at November 29, 2012 04:18 PM (V70Uh)

161 153 And now for a counter proposal. NUTS. Posted by: Butters at November 29, 2012 08:16 PM (NIZHJ) I wish the douche(R)ockets had the nads to do that.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at November 29, 2012 04:19 PM (CxJM2)

162 We better have a good 4th quarter or we will be in some deep shit. I'm also really worried about the complete drop of in Capital Consumption.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at November 29, 2012 04:19 PM (NzBQO)

163 >>>144 TN, did you see the video I posted last night? "All I want for Christmas is a Jew"? Google it up, I think you'll like it. I enjoy uncomfortable racist humor, but hate Christmas music. What a quandary....

Posted by: Truman North at November 29, 2012 04:19 PM (I2LwF)

164 "The not very smart one." Yeah, that narrows it down. :-)

Posted by: Eorwax of Rohan at November 29, 2012 04:19 PM (y4eis)

165 And 150 years ago.... Robert E. Lee was preparing for what would become the Battle of Fredrickburg....

Posted by: CSA at November 29, 2012 04:20 PM (lZBBB)

166 The hour has arrived for an Article V convention to be called. 2/3s of both houses of congress can call the convention, or 34 states.

Posted by: Hopeless at November 29, 2012 04:20 PM (dYizu)

167 I'd like to see some money put into that oh-so-scary video that "caused Benghazi" to happen. Get it some wide distribution. Just shine the fucking light of the First Amendment on that thing, and the guy in jail too.

Plus, the movie was awesome, in a campy, give-the-finger-to-Islam way.

Win-win.

Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at November 29, 2012 04:21 PM (zpqa2)

168

The usual definition of a recession doesn't fit anymore. That definition was promulgated during a period when we ran a basically capitalist economy. Under a welfare state, govt activity and spending adds false growth to GDP, masking the underlying cancer that will only be revealed later.

Those who created the negative quarterly growth definition did not account for zero interest rates being used for 4-5 years to stop an economy from free-falling into depression. They did not account for banks being declared too big to fail, or for the govt to buy General Motors.

We live in a new world. Our old definitions don't apply anymore.

Posted by: Meremortal, run...it's burning! at November 29, 2012 04:21 PM (jTKU5)

169 168 Yep.

Posted by: steevy at November 29, 2012 04:22 PM (9XBK2)

170 I bet TFG made his deal because he knows the GOP could never in a million years agree to it. He probably did it in order to take us over the "Fiscal Cliff", which is what they want. Why is everyone pretending like the Dems don't want to raise taxes on everybody AND cut the military. That's been their stated goal since forever.

But, boy, is he going to be surprised when the GOP agrees to it!

Posted by: runninrebel at November 29, 2012 04:22 PM (J4gw3)

171 He could turn the US in Zimbabwe overnight with that unlimited power.

Posted by: BlueFalcon in Boston at November 29, 2012 08:11 PM (KCvsd)

And would, not that he'd necessarily mean to do it quite so quickly. His complete lack of mathmatical and economic understanding guarantee that outcome even if his purpose *weren't* already to ruin the nation.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, still a Hobbit at November 29, 2012 04:22 PM (NYki8)

172 Fortune cookie for Truman North -
'If you think nobody cares if you are alive, try missing a couple of car payments.'

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 29, 2012 04:23 PM (bxLgY)

173 Article V convention now.

Posted by: Hopeless at November 29, 2012 04:23 PM (dYizu)

174 Do the arithmetic. Obama carried over 25 states. Even in a Con Con, amendments have to be ratified by three-fourths of the States.

I don't that happening anytime soon. or soon enough.

Posted by: Al at November 29, 2012 04:23 PM (V70Uh)

175 Has any one seen the Time article that Limbaugh was talking about today referencing 401k's? I'm not paying good money to read it so I will live off of your largesse.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at November 29, 2012 04:23 PM (l3vZN)

176 We live in a new world. Our old definitions don't apply anymore.

This

Posted by: fluffy at November 29, 2012 04:23 PM (z9HTb)

177 165 CSA, Yeah had you followed Longstreet's advice and abolished slavery....point is I hate that it looks like we need it again.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 29, 2012 04:23 PM (LRFds)

178 Article V convention now.
Posted by: Hopeless

Someone really needs to buy you a dartboard for Christmas.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at November 29, 2012 04:23 PM (JEpGb)

179

Posted by: Meremortal, run...it's burning! at November 29, 2012 08:21 PM (jTKU5)

It also does not take into account LONG term deficit spending....

Wanna here a good one? The Interest on the Naitonal Debt, counts as GDP... because the GDP is just the Movement of money....

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 29, 2012 04:24 PM (lZBBB)

180 At least the U.S. and Zimbabwe have Presidents who are intellectual equals.

Posted by: Butters at November 29, 2012 04:24 PM (NIZHJ)

181 The hour has arrived for an Article V convention to be called. 2/3s of both houses of congress can call the convention, or 34 states. Posted by: Hopeless at November 29, 2012 08:20 PM (dYizu) And at that convention the Democrats would get their entire agenda written into the Constitution itself. It would be the nightmare of all nightmares.

Posted by: eman at November 29, 2012 04:24 PM (57VGh)

182 "The usual definition of a recession doesn't fit anymore."

Good point. Applies to a lot of other govt terms and stats too. CPI, unemployment numbers, etc. They're just gamed now.

Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at November 29, 2012 04:24 PM (zpqa2)

183 160 I, for one, am tightening my belt and ELIMINATING all discretionary spending. Smokes and Beer from another state. Been doing it for years. Food from the most generic sources possible. Check. Chinese buffet once a month? Eliminated. Breaking out the Ramen Noodle Cookbook from College. MRE stash? Have to get with my sources. Bring the Burn, bay-bee!

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at November 29, 2012 04:25 PM (CxJM2)

184
It's not a recession if you're too stupid to understand that it's a recession. In that case, it's the rich guy's fault. QED.

Posted by: Wodeshed at November 29, 2012 04:25 PM (a9L+B)

185

And 150 years ago.... Robert E. Lee was preparing for what would become the Battle of Fredrickburg....

Trying to come up with a Republican/Burnside reference

Posted by: USS Diversity at November 29, 2012 04:25 PM (85EaA)

186 Huhu... capitalism? Like from the toilet??

Posted by: Truman North at November 29, 2012 04:26 PM (I2LwF)

187 181 eman, No don't think so. Pretty sure it'd dissolve.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 29, 2012 04:27 PM (LRFds)

188 Truman, I thought the quote was "Help! I am being held captive in a fortune cookie factory."

Posted by: Al at November 29, 2012 04:27 PM (V70Uh)

189 I have a theory I developed while watching Red October. Is it possible we trust/believe politicians more tha we used to? The NSA in it tells Alec Baldwin 'I'm a politician which means I'm a crook...and I cheat. If I'm not kissing babies I'm stealing their lollipops'. Given dead dog voters and the authority principle is it possible we are in some weird Milgram experiment where we now only question the authority that our preferred authority tells us to especially for those on the left? Younger people are much more likely to follow authority figures and we have spent decades indoctrinating them with the need to conform and follow those in charge. Trust in authority even if that authority is bad for you kid.

Posted by: Exasperated Expat at November 29, 2012 04:27 PM (xV30b)

190
Huhu... capitalism? Like from the toilet??

***

I'll take a dump on it, but only if it's spelled with an "ol."

Posted by: Wodeshed at November 29, 2012 04:28 PM (a9L+B)

191 181 eman, No don't think so. Pretty sure it'd dissolve. Posted by: sven10077 at November 29, 2012 08:27 PM (LRFds) Yeah, but do you feel lucky?

Posted by: eman at November 29, 2012 04:28 PM (57VGh)

192 172 Fortune cookie for Truman North - 'If you think nobody cares if you are alive, try missing a couple of car payments.' Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 29, 2012 08:23 PM (bxLgY) Yeah, no shit....

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at November 29, 2012 04:28 PM (CxJM2)

193 He could turn the US in Zimbabwe overnight with that unlimited power.
Posted by: BlueFalcon in Boston at November 29, 2012 08:11 PM (KCvsd)

In Zimbabwe, everybody is a trillionare.

Posted by: YIKES! at November 29, 2012 04:28 PM (mETGQ)

194 188 So solly.

Posted by: Long Duck Dong at November 29, 2012 04:28 PM (NIZHJ)

195 btw, wouldn't that be a great fortune cookie to get? Would you take it seriously or just figure that it's a joke?

Posted by: Al at November 29, 2012 04:29 PM (V70Uh)

196 191 eman, Luckier than 100% fucked? Yeah

Posted by: sven10077 at November 29, 2012 04:29 PM (LRFds)

197 Really...

I'm sick and tired of this fuckstain of a president. It is my hope that maybe...just maybe...the burn will come quickly and all at once like Mark Steyn foresees that we can start over again, but with some changes:

1. I want balkanization. I want the Moron Nation to stretch across the east coast, the lower states, and to the west coast to have access to both oceans, but am content to leave whatever liberal shitholes that remain in the northwest and northeast alone.

2. Conservatism WILL be written into the new constitution. There will be no ambiguous language that will be open to interpretation by future liberal douchebags that manage to sneak into the upper levels of our future nation's gov't or academia. Conservative principles will be clearly stated with NO room for "re-imagining".

3. We will welcome anyone, including former shitstain liberals who ruined America, into our nation but they will never have any illusions of changing our way of life or constitution. The conservative articles stated in #2 will be immutable. No amendment process will change them. All other considerations can be voted on. Moron citizens will receive 2 votes. All others will receive 1/2.

4. A strong nation requires a strong armed military. Our Moron Horde will be all volunteer as was before. We will conscript an all 'ette Pleasure Regiment, however, to serve as morale and propaganda officers. Calendars will be made available every Christmas season.

Posted by: EC at November 29, 2012 04:29 PM (doBIb)

198 I enjoy uncomfortable racist humor, but hate Christmas music. What a quandary....

Posted by: Truman North at November 29, 2012 08:19 PM (I2LwF)

Who doesn't like Mariah Carey?

I didn't think it was racist or anti-Semitic, just funny. I stumbled on it looking for this: http://tinyurl.com/6vc2txx

From last year, same song.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at November 29, 2012 04:29 PM (wR+pz)

199 >>>188 Truman, I thought the quote was "Help! I am being held captive in a fortune cookie factory." Posted by: Al at November 29, 2012 08:27 PM (V70Uh) Okay, dock me on Internetz and I'll take my turn in the barrel.

Posted by: Truman North at November 29, 2012 04:30 PM (I2LwF)

200 We better have a good 4th quarter or we will be in some deep shit. I'm also really worried about the complete drop of in Capital Consumption.

To compensate for the loss in CapEx you just move everybody from full-time to part-time. Production increases or stays level, ObamaCare costs for business decrease and the Unemployment Rate drops.

Win-win-win baby.

Posted by: Zombie Alan King at November 29, 2012 04:30 PM (kqqGm)

201 Falcons in the red hats and black shirts. Saint in their usual road kit.

Posted by: Truman North at November 29, 2012 04:31 PM (I2LwF)

202 It's all going to plan .... remember baby....out of kaos , order

Posted by: TFG at November 29, 2012 04:31 PM (s72/N)

203
Well, here's another fine mess you've gotten me into.

Posted by: Oliver Obama To America at November 29, 2012 04:32 PM (mETGQ)

204 /sock off

Posted by: John P. Squibob at November 29, 2012 04:32 PM (kqqGm)

205

Posted by: USS Diversity at November 29, 2012 08:25 PM (85EaA)

Well.... a couple of days ago it would have been Lincoln and Burnside meeting, and Lincoln not liking the Generals plan, but reluctantly approving it....

Micromanagment of the military by know nothing Civilians.... kinda like we have now...

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 29, 2012 04:32 PM (lZBBB)

206 Go Away "Bait-in"

Posted by: Idiocracy America at November 29, 2012 04:33 PM (uis79)

207 BURN BABY BURN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Evilpens at November 29, 2012 04:33 PM (ck76k)

208 "Obama carried over 25 states. Even in a Con Con, amendments have to be ratified by three-fourths of the States. " Republicans control 24 state legislatures to 13 for the Dems, and have 30 governors.

Posted by: Eorwax of Rohan at November 29, 2012 04:33 PM (y4eis)

209 ObamaCare will cost nothing for employers. The ones that already provide Health Insurance will pass on the increases to the employees.

The ones that don't simply reduce the work to 28 hour weeks.

In the near future: the 7 hour day of the 4 day work week.

Posted by: Al at November 29, 2012 04:33 PM (V70Uh)

210 OT but interesting.The Spurs are resting their old players(not even bringing them) to a road game and the NBA commish is not pleased,promising "sanctions".

Posted by: steevy at November 29, 2012 04:34 PM (9XBK2)

211 Well.... a couple of days ago it would have been Lincoln and Burnside meeting, and Lincoln not liking the Generals plan, but reluctantly approving it....

Micromanagment of the military by know nothing Civilians.... kinda like we have now...

Yeah, tell me how well Burnside's plan did against Lee's forces.

Posted by: John P. Squibob at November 29, 2012 04:35 PM (kqqGm)

212 "Republicans control 24 state legislatures to 13 for the Dems, and have 30 governors."

We need 38 States to do anything.

Posted by: Al at November 29, 2012 04:35 PM (V70Uh)

213

Carry on, morons. I'm off to rehearsal. Tonight we are adding Don't Be Cruel (Cheap Trick version), Everybody Wants You (Billy Squier), Come Together (Beatles) and Fire Down Below (Seger) to our geezer band song list.

We are approaching 170 songs, which is a record for any band I've ever been in.

Posted by: Meremortal, run...it's burning! at November 29, 2012 04:35 PM (jTKU5)

214 I think at some point you've ~~made~~ printed enough money.

Posted by: YIKES! at November 29, 2012 04:36 PM (mETGQ)

215 YIKES,

You ain't seen nothin' yet

Posted by: Weimar Republic at November 29, 2012 04:36 PM (V70Uh)

216 So, how do we get a governor to start the call for an article V convention?

Posted by: Hopeless at November 29, 2012 04:37 PM (eo/+2)

217 THE ROOF

THE ROOF

THE ROOF IS ON FIRE

...

BURN MOTHERFUCKER BURN

Posted by: John P. Squibob at November 29, 2012 04:38 PM (kqqGm)

218 What we have now is The Bread and Circus Olympics.

Posted by: ontherocks at November 29, 2012 04:38 PM (aZ6ew)

219 212 AJ, We have it if we dare the blue to put their money where their mouth is on "inherently flawed document." His ego would have him calling for it to happen.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 29, 2012 04:38 PM (LRFds)

220
Anybody got a wheelbarrow I can borrow?

Posted by: Wodeshed at November 29, 2012 04:38 PM (a9L+B)

221 I reality we still have a long way to go before the real pain comes. They will make sure you don't feel the real pain till Obama is out of office....so you got four years....you had better enjoy it!

Posted by: Walter Sobchak at November 29, 2012 04:38 PM (uis79)

222 ObamaCare will cost nothing for employers. The ones that already provide Health Insurance will pass on the increases to the employees.
The ones that don't simply reduce the work to 28 hour weeks.
In the near future: the 7 hour day of the 4 day work week.
Posted by: Al

You don't see anything deleterious to businesses in that scenario?

In the very least, employers still have to spend thousands per new hire, *not* including healthcare. Doubling up on part-time workers by no means absolves a company from the myriad of employment rules and regs. Right here we have higher overhead costs.

So, no, Obamacare is not cost-free in any sense.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at November 29, 2012 04:39 PM (JEpGb)

223 heh.

My tab for this tread reads:
We're Already In A Recession, Says Anal...

Posted by: YIKES! at November 29, 2012 04:39 PM (mETGQ)

224 I would like to see sequestration, for many of the reasons already discussed.

I fear that Boner and Co., however, will weasel-out at the end.

Posted by: Weimar Republic at November 29, 2012 04:39 PM (V70Uh)

225 sock off

Posted by: Al at November 29, 2012 04:39 PM (V70Uh)

226 Anyone else notice that O'R shows have really sucked more than usual lately?

He not touching anything but Entertainment Tonight shit, Christmas trees, Lottery winners, toy catalogs?

The whole show is horse shit. Now ghey marriage.

Bill, hello the fucking country is going broke. Hello? Anyone home?

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at November 29, 2012 04:39 PM (wR+pz)

227 See, when the ball hits the guy in the helmet like that, that's called a "doink".

Posted by: Truman North at November 29, 2012 04:39 PM (I2LwF)

228 Leather Wheelbarrows?

Posted by: Butters at November 29, 2012 04:40 PM (NIZHJ)

229 The other countries who trade in the dollar have to collapse first. You have time....but this is clearly the beginning of the end.

Posted by: Walter Sobchak at November 29, 2012 04:40 PM (uis79)

230 OT but interesting.The Spurs are resting their old players(not even bringing them) to a road game and the NBA commish is not pleased,promising "sanctions".

Posted by: steevy at November 29, 2012 08:34 PM (9XBK2)

I've got a stat for you 29-3, that's the Spurs last 32 regular season games ON THE ROAD. He's playing smart, why waste energy on a game you might not win, send your guys home.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at November 29, 2012 04:41 PM (NzBQO)

231 For me to notice that O'Reilly's shows really suck lately, I would have to watch his show. That's not going to happen.

Posted by: Al at November 29, 2012 04:41 PM (V70Uh)

232 "Bill, hello the fucking country is going broke. Hello? Anyone home?" How many times have I told you this? O'Mick is a Liberal Democrat!

Posted by: Walter Sobchak at November 29, 2012 04:42 PM (uis79)

233 Atlanta just said, Thanks for playing, Aints!

Posted by: Truman North at November 29, 2012 04:42 PM (I2LwF)

234 226 billy bob, O'Shamrock loves Ogabe and is as useful as skin tags.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 29, 2012 04:43 PM (LRFds)

235 Bill oreilley? Is he still on television? I remember him from A Current Affair. Good times....

Posted by: Truman North at November 29, 2012 04:43 PM (I2LwF)

236 Naw, he was never on good times

Posted by: Truman North at November 29, 2012 04:44 PM (I2LwF)

237 Dynomite.

Posted by: JJ at November 29, 2012 04:44 PM (NIZHJ)

238 Bill oreilley? Is he still on television? I remember him from A Current Affair.

Good times....

WE'LL DO IT LIVE!

Posted by: John P. Squibob at November 29, 2012 04:45 PM (kqqGm)

239
Naw, he was never on good times

***

Pretty sure he was the sister with the big hogans.

Posted by: Wodeshed at November 29, 2012 04:45 PM (a9L+B)

240 I think oreilley and Casey kasem should have a show on XM. I don't know what i would name it, but it would be boring and stupid!

Posted by: Truman North at November 29, 2012 04:45 PM (I2LwF)

241 Good ole Bill, always "looking out for the folks"

Megan was on, so the show was not a total lost.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at November 29, 2012 04:45 PM (wR+pz)

242 O'Ruler by E.O. Does not need the pubbies to get his way on the fiscal cliff but he's creating this kabuki theater so he can blame republicans for what is to come. Because he knows we're already in a recession. Not that he cared enough to figure it out on his own but because his advisors told him so, and it's always all about politics for him.

Posted by: small town girl at November 29, 2012 04:46 PM (OJLOy)

243 Keeping your head below water...struggling for each breath of air...good times

Posted by: sven10077 at November 29, 2012 04:46 PM (LRFds)

244 loss, but the show was lost.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at November 29, 2012 04:46 PM (wR+pz)

245

Just me hit last night. We need to change the way we're thinking about this fight. We must accept we are no longer in the majorty, and we must fight this as an insurgency, guerrilla politics. This is how the vile leftists won, starting this in the 60s. They won. They won a majority of the country.

It would be nice if we could just pack up and leave and start a new country, just taking up the ideas and principles that founded this country and in less than 200 years out of all human history, which was nothing but misery and slavery, into the greatest success the world has ever seen.

But there is no new place to go. We must take this place back. Otherwise the the light that first lit up in 1776 will go out, and darkness and misery will return for a thousand years.

And to to that, we must face reality. We are a remnant. And thus we must fight as such. We must adopt the mindset of such an insurgency. We must subvert and sabotage the insitutions and sacraments of the leftist power structure, just like they did to us.

And that means getting nasty and mean. Our goal should be to destroy the left and their institutions, not win popularity contests with an idiot public.

Posted by: publius(NotBreitbartPublius) at November 29, 2012 04:46 PM (VVB18)

246 I saw on zerohedge most of the increase in govt spending is coming from defense, they can feel the cuts coming.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at November 29, 2012 04:47 PM (NzBQO)

247 230 Not saying it isn't smart.I find the reaction of the Commissioner interesting.(Stern is a pompous douche,like every other ML boss)

Posted by: steevy at November 29, 2012 04:47 PM (9XBK2)

248 "Give me the Power" - Max Frost - "Wild in the Streets"

Posted by: Al at November 29, 2012 04:49 PM (V70Uh)

249 @245 Yes...this is the correct strategy...we must shit on America to save her....

Posted by: Walter Sobchak at November 29, 2012 04:49 PM (uis79)

250 Stupid cunt I know found out she is getting laid off. But she is an Obama voter so fuck her. Think she'll put 2 and 2 together and figure it out? Yeah, me neither.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 29, 2012 04:49 PM (HDgX3)

251 246 I saw on zerohedge most of the increase in govt spending is coming from defense, they can feel the cuts coming.

The long term goal is to disarm the country. Just think, John fucking Kerry, the guy who lied about his war wounds and said he threw away his metals, is going to represent the USA to the world.

What the hell does that say.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at November 29, 2012 04:50 PM (wR+pz)

252

Posted by: publius(NotBreitbartPublius) at November 29, 2012 08:46 PM (VVB1

Gutless Old Pussies are right on that.

Posted by: USS Diversity at November 29, 2012 04:50 PM (85EaA)

253 246 adam smith's iph, Lies...Luap Nor bullshit Defense is lower by % of gdp than Dhimmi Carter..... Let it burn Jihadi Jim'll help.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 29, 2012 04:50 PM (LRFds)

254 Fuck now O'R is going to OJ. Unbelievable.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at November 29, 2012 04:50 PM (wR+pz)

255 Go Away...Bate'n

Posted by: Walter Sobchak at November 29, 2012 04:50 PM (uis79)

256 Kan haz football thread?

Posted by: Truman North at November 29, 2012 04:51 PM (I2LwF)

257

I almost screamed at the radio this morning. The news blurb was talking about how much rosier the economic picture was looking in St. Louis now that unemployment had dropped about 1%. Then came the clincher. "Now this number only reflects *this month* but still it's a good trend."

So I used it as a math lesson for my 5th grader who was in the room. 1) UE is lower because of temporary, part-time Christmas hiring, and 2) One month by definition cannot be a "trend".

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, still a Hobbit at November 29, 2012 04:51 PM (NYki8)

258 Miss me yet?

Posted by: Zombie King George III at November 29, 2012 04:52 PM (ccXZP)

259

Another recession?

I blame Bush.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at November 29, 2012 04:52 PM (4u2LN)

260 BOOOOOSH!

Posted by: Walter Sobchak at November 29, 2012 04:52 PM (uis79)

261 True story.

Posted by: Stevie Ray Hendricks at November 29, 2012 04:55 PM (NIZHJ)

262 Apparently the saints are not interested in playing run defense.

Posted by: Truman North at November 29, 2012 04:56 PM (I2LwF)

263

Posted by: small town girl at November 29, 2012 08:46 PM (OJLOy)

How much are houses going for in Cheyenne right now? I have family in Loveland, CO and I'm thinking that moving to a no income tax state closer to them would be a good plan.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, still a Hobbit at November 29, 2012 04:58 PM (NYki8)

264 156 Funny, See B. S. News is reporting that prosperity is right around the corner.

In other news, the chocolate ration is going to be increased. Posted by: Eorwax of Rohan at November 29, 2012 08:17 PM

1. Run the "Prosperity Montage" over and over and over
2. ????
3. Profit!

Posted by: MSNBCNNBCBS at November 29, 2012 04:59 PM (wwsoB)

265

This Presidential Memorandum transmits the National Insider Threat Policy and Minimum Standards for Executive Branch Insider Threat Programs (Minimum Standards) to provide direction and guidance to promote the development of effective insider threat programs within departments and agencies to deter, detect, and mitigate actions by employees who may represent a threat to national security.

The resulting insider threat capabilities will strengthen the protection of classified information across the executive branch and reinforce our defenses against both adversaries and insiders who misuse their access and endanger our national security.

BARACK OBAMA

zero hedge.

is this anything?

any thing on patreaus or has He decided to eat his peas?

Posted by: willow at November 29, 2012 05:01 PM (hX8cq)

266 Ace, your post would have been greatly improved if you added a FU and LIB after "Thank you Obama!" as you did in your last post.

Posted by: Ace's unofficial editor at November 29, 2012 05:02 PM (0PiQ4)

267 No Thursday Night Football thread? I'm not even joking; this is actually a good game.

Posted by: logprof at November 29, 2012 05:02 PM (gBuIk)

268 Get used to hearing this: Lost Decade. We'll start it, but eventually the media will pick it up because its simple.

Posted by: MJ at November 29, 2012 05:04 PM (TR60b)

269 It's not Panthers vs. Eagles but it will do.

Posted by: Butters at November 29, 2012 05:04 PM (NIZHJ)

270

Posted by: logprof at November 29, 2012 09:02 PM (gBuIk)

Lol, that's not what tmi3rd just said on Twitter. Not that he said it was bad, think he said a slow start for both teams.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, still a Hobbit at November 29, 2012 05:05 PM (NYki8)

271

Recession? It's Boooosh's fault!

Let's see, an hour and a half into the thread- I'm like the tenth person to say that, right?

Posted by: Jim in Virginia at November 29, 2012 05:07 PM (mD+z2)

272 14 Don't you need two consecutive quarters of negativve growth to be in a recession? Where are those two quarters. Posted by: alex of the old, broken kindle (and a migraine) at November 29, 2012 07:43 PM (aPAIU) Take away the billions per day the gov't has been printing and Gdp is way negative.

Posted by: blindside at November 29, 2012 05:08 PM (ajjwb)

273 Pass the Aloe Vera gel, pls.

Posted by: no grey poupon for joo! at November 29, 2012 05:09 PM (LpQbZ)

274 166 The hour has arrived for an Article V convention to be called. 2/3s of both houses of congress can call the convention, or 34 states. Posted by: Hopeless at November 29, 2012 08:20 PM (dYizu) We're way past that. '....when government becomes destructive towards these ends...

Posted by: blindside at November 29, 2012 05:10 PM (ajjwb)

275 BTW: The left really believed that no matter who won the election, the economy was on the edge of full blown recovery. The were worried that Romney would get credit for Obama's recovery. For real.

Posted by: MJ at November 29, 2012 05:10 PM (TR60b)

276 zeros commenters,

rolls eyes.

Posted by: willow at November 29, 2012 05:11 PM (hX8cq)

277

Posted by: weew at November 29, 2012 05:11 PM (ElfHn)

278 278 BTW: The left really believed that no matter who won the election, the economy was on the edge of full blown recovery. The were worried that Romney would get credit for Obama's recovery. For real. Posted by: MJ at November 29, 2012 09:10 PM HAA-HAA!!!

Posted by: Nelson at November 29, 2012 05:12 PM (PALjS)

279 280 Well said.

Posted by: Butters at November 29, 2012 05:12 PM (NIZHJ)

280 heh thanks Butters. I have a habit of hitting Enter after typing login credentials.

Posted by: weew at November 29, 2012 05:14 PM (ElfHn)

281 278 MJ,

Yup which is why I gambled a lot of my savings and discretionary income on trying to pull Romney across the line.

I knew we were fucked and wanted a manager in charge not a Hate Church deacon.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 29, 2012 05:14 PM (LRFds)

282 277, That's the idea. An amicable divorce via article V amendment process.

Posted by: Hopeless at November 29, 2012 05:15 PM (Zc+kn)

283 279 willow,

Yeah the staff there is ace's but the ZH commentariat makes Luap Nor cult seem sane.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 29, 2012 05:15 PM (LRFds)

284

soap box

ballot box

jury box

these all failed...what's the other one?

Posted by: USS Diversity at November 29, 2012 05:15 PM (85EaA)

285 285 Hopeless,

Yeah Run Red makes it more likely...

I'd pay good money for a reality TV show of ObamaFo voters trying to run a farm.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 29, 2012 05:16 PM (LRFds)

286 There are no. None. NO. Specific spending cuts on the table by the Dem's, and Harry Reid says it's up to the Republicans to make the proposals. F*^k him/them. If Boehner had any cajones he should WALK!

Posted by: Just Another Moron (Formerly New and Semi-New) at November 29, 2012 05:16 PM (mkb9H)

287 I need to finish up some work so I'm gonna be a lazy ass and not scroll up to see if I'm repeating, but had to drop in and say you need to see Drudge's main headline, which is in his top 10 ever. I hate these smug fucks.

Posted by: jakeman at November 29, 2012 05:17 PM (96M6e)

288 289 JAM.

Boehner did walk and Mitch laughed.

Basically they are stuck trying to play damage control with the MSM....not an envious position BUT I get the feeling they are in "fuck you let's dive" mode.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 29, 2012 05:17 PM (LRFds)

289 @289 "If Boehner had any cajones" We could dream though!

Posted by: Walter Sobchak at November 29, 2012 05:18 PM (uis79)

290 I knew we were fucked and wanted a manager in charge not a Hate Church deacon. ------------------------- Hate Church Deacon. That's funny as hell.

Posted by: MJ at November 29, 2012 05:18 PM (TR60b)

291 Duh.

Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at November 29, 2012 07:39 PM (zpqa2)

DoublePluss Duh. Where did the last one go? From my way of seeing it`s been hanging around threatening worse. It aint it`s fault it grew another one.

Posted by: rightlysouthern(aim low boys,theys ridin ponies) at November 29, 2012 05:18 PM (WkS/c)

292 Gotta love King Putt "falling to 49%" let the media fuck up and admit Choom is going on a 4 million buck vaccay....

fuck you SCOAMF show me how to tax the rich to US wealth Barry.

The Feds hold 60% of US land.....

there ought to be a fucking resource rush and growth spurt but instead we are stuck in a religious Gaia sermon.

Fuck you DC

Posted by: sven10077 at November 29, 2012 05:19 PM (LRFds)

293 293 MJ,

Yeah Mitt's Mormonism "too radical" Jerry fucking Wright or Ayatollah khomeini?

Just right....

fuck the 51%

Posted by: sven10077 at November 29, 2012 05:20 PM (LRFds)

294 292 Walter S,

Walt buddy....Boehner knows his coalition is weak tea....

You could have John nance Garner and we'd be fucked.

Boner will tell Barry fuck off this time I suspect.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 29, 2012 05:21 PM (LRFds)

295 They Shoot Horses, Don't They?

Posted by: Baldy at November 29, 2012 05:21 PM (opS9C)

296 you need to see Drudge's main headline, which is in his top 10 ever.

OMG! You killed Timmeh!!!

Posted by: South Pahk at November 29, 2012 05:21 PM (z9HTb)

297

I was listening to Fox Talk on teh Sirius Radio, on the way home from work, and the "tease" for Gibson has him on board for LIB, even if he doesn't say the actual "let it burn". On principle - he's there. Also, I am still on my Boz Scaggs, Doobie Bros., Steely Dan, and vicariously Toto retrospective, and all of the tie-ins between them... and as Boz says:

-Baby. There's a breakdown. Dead ahead!

Posted by: Just Another Moron (Formerly New and Semi-New) at November 29, 2012 05:22 PM (mkb9H)

298 We may be in a recession, but it's a balanced recession.

Posted by: Fritz at November 29, 2012 05:22 PM (d8K+M)

299 Meremortal,

Sounds like a blast. I'd love to see the band, but I think I'm too far away to do so, being in Oklahoma.

Heck, I'd like to do something like that myself, but I'm just a vocalist...don't even know any musicians around here yet.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at November 29, 2012 05:22 PM (5J54Q)

300 250 Stupid cunt I know found out she is getting laid off. But she is an Obama voter so fuck her. Think she'll put 2 and 2 together and figure it out? Yeah, me neither.
BUUUUUSSSSHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Stupid cunt at November 29, 2012 05:23 PM (8SsiG)

301 BTW: The left really believed that no matter who won the election, the economy was on the edge of full blown recovery. Posted by: MJ at November 29, 2012 09:10 PM (TR60b) Of course, they did. Every fudged economic indicator, bogus unemployment report and hidden debt analysis led them to the inescapable conclusion of happy days are here again! Awwww.....sorry retards. Time to drag the "Bushs' fault playbook back out. Oh, I see you've never put it away. Bless your widdle hearts....

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at November 29, 2012 05:23 PM (CxJM2)

302 Applebee's with the old Run DMC song from the 80s.

Posted by: USS Diversity at November 29, 2012 05:23 PM (85EaA)

303 Timmeh!

Posted by: Timmeh at November 29, 2012 05:23 PM (NIZHJ)

304 @297 I hope he does...I'm a LetItBurn guy, and all I want is for the idiots of this country to see who they voted for. If I was Boehner Id thru a huge hissy fit and quit or change teams and become a Democrat.

Posted by: Walter Sobchak at November 29, 2012 05:24 PM (uis79)

305 299 awesome!!!!

Posted by: phoenixgirl at November 29, 2012 05:24 PM (GVxQo)

306 Brees is back to negative points.

Posted by: Butters at November 29, 2012 05:25 PM (NIZHJ)

307 Just Another Moron (may I call you JAM?)

Like the Doobies sing: "What a fool believes he sees, no wise man has the power to reason away". Reminds me of the Free Crap Army.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at November 29, 2012 05:25 PM (5J54Q)

308 Hey Sven- I read in the "high poster" tabs that you averaged 3 a minute; 16 hours a day; a couple of weeks ago. Whoo Hoo! Fast fingers. Anyway, I am glad to "see" you here. I have been lurking with minimal comments lately. RLS and the holidays and whatnot...

Posted by: Just Another Moron (Formerly New and Semi-New) at November 29, 2012 05:26 PM (mkb9H)

309 Miss me yet? Posted by: Zombie King George III at November 29, 2012 08:52 PM (ccXZP)

Not particularly.

Posted by: Simon Abney-Hastings at November 29, 2012 05:26 PM (QTHTd)

310 @264 I'm in Laramie where real estate is outrageous ( and apparently always has been) and can't even think about buying anything because I can't sell my house in Georgia. But I think in Cheyenne you can get a nice house for 125k and go up from there. Wyoming is in good shape comparatively to the rest of the US. Unemployment is around 5.5%, no state income tax, and we have energy here and the means to get it and I'm not talking about those giant windmills that dominate some landscapes out here. I was offered an above average salary to come here: Wyoming tends to recruit because the population is so sparse and not everyone can tolerate the weather. I love it here, and count it as a blessing everyday. I would recommend it to anyone who is so inclined.

Posted by: small town girl at November 29, 2012 05:26 PM (CPoFy)

311 307 Walter,

John is solid GOP but not vociferous his county in my former home state is an interesting mix of depressed machining and farmers leveraged to the hilt.

He plays a mean Euchre game.

Mostly he grasps that too many in his party demand "we are the pretty pony."

Our purity wars enabled King Putt.

That has to suck to grasp.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 29, 2012 05:27 PM (LRFds)

312 oh dear God....having a Spaten.....the day was way too long for me so i broke my alcohol fast......and it is delicious......

Posted by: phoenixgirl at November 29, 2012 05:27 PM (GVxQo)

313 >>"What a fool believes he sees, no wise man has the power to reason away" Confession. I am 45 years old, and did NOT know until just now what that lyric said past the first 4 words. So thanks, I think. And for the record, if I have to hear "Yamo Be There" one more time, I'm going to "Yamo" burn this place to the ground.

Posted by: jakeman at November 29, 2012 05:29 PM (96M6e)

314

@250

Thanks for cheering me up. Always good to hear that some Obamanaut idiot got hosed by his own stupidity.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at November 29, 2012 05:29 PM (4u2LN)

315 We're planning an extreme ski trip off the fecal cliff. Anybody in?

Posted by: Tobacco Road, is running out of pavement fast at November 29, 2012 05:30 PM (4Mv1T)

316 hi all.
So I have been thinking lately.

We have to develop our own cult, like the Cult of Obama, like the Cult of Reagan, like the Cult of Ron Paul (but with less craziness in the latter case).

We have to find our own savior and work tirelessly to see him/her elected. That is how elections are won nowadays. It's not based on logical or rational decision-making. It's based on trivial crap like who is the "cooler" candidate or who is the one that "feels my pain".

I know we conservatives don't like to think of politicians as saviors. But if we want to save the Republic I think we have to.

Posted by: chemjeff at November 29, 2012 05:30 PM (d/5qf)

317 311 just Anpther Moron,

Thanks.

We're all in this together.

My posting is way down and likely to fall even more.

I took the campaign season off and am pondering going into a small logistics business as founder.

When people thanked wife for her service, or me for my own back in the day I always said "easy nation to want to defend our greatness is on main street not wall Street or Penn Avenue."

I believed it, I still may but I think it might be time for us to throw off the yoke of the Federal Government as rendered and break up.

I don't know anymore.

Keep your head up, work hard and take care of your own.

Run red if it falls apart.

The United States would be in a huge boom if not for the EPA and SCOAMF-D

Posted by: sven10077 at November 29, 2012 05:30 PM (LRFds)

318 The Saints catch like they're wearing mittens.

Posted by: Butters at November 29, 2012 05:32 PM (NIZHJ)

319 319 ChemJeff,

I prefer my old cult.

I, (NAME), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.

The Document is King.

The President is at best his secretary and at worst the King's jester.

Obama is as funny as jerry lewis

Posted by: sven10077 at November 29, 2012 05:32 PM (LRFds)

320 gallup re drudge

obama's approval falls to 49%

i don't get it.

Posted by: willow at November 29, 2012 05:33 PM (hX8cq)

321 @314 "Our purity wars enabled King Putt." Maybe.....but I disagree! This is the consequence of the Marxist movement infiltrating the school systems and the media starting in the 60's. The Communists told us in the 50's that in (2) generations they would ultimately use our freedom against us. They ended being right, because the people in the country that wanted to change it, wanted it more, than we did wanting to keep it free!

Posted by: Walter Sobchak at November 29, 2012 05:33 PM (uis79)

322 315 PHXGrl,

Heh indulge.

I envy those that can quit or set their own mark.

I lack the "hey dumbass you can't tie your shoes" switch

Posted by: sven10077 at November 29, 2012 05:33 PM (LRFds)

323 Whitebread - et al. You can call me anything but a c^$*sucker or any of the Liberal, Progressive, Dem. perjoratives. 'Cause they are definitely fightin' words. But, yeah, all I have is a hammer (and a can of gasoline), so I am hearing the "nail" of LIB, everywhere.

Posted by: Just Another Moron (Formerly New and Semi-New) at November 29, 2012 05:33 PM (mkb9H)

324 My day is coming.

Posted by: Math at November 29, 2012 05:34 PM (NIZHJ)

325 324 Walter S,

We're dying off and enabling what you correctly point out.

I told my mother in law when she asked "what happened?" that we lost the nation in 2001 or 1968....

I think we lost when I was negative four years old.

William Ayers should have been lynched instead we made him editor in chief for our children's course materials.

Let it burn

Posted by: sven10077 at November 29, 2012 05:35 PM (LRFds)

326

If you get time, listen to the Levin replay from tonight (it goes pretty fast without commercials). Scary. As. Hell.

http://bit.ly/rxDvRL

Posted by: RushBabe at November 29, 2012 05:37 PM (tQHzJ)

327 They Shoot Horses, Don't They?

Posted by: Baldy at November 29, 2012 09:21 PM (opS9C)

Only when they miss.

Posted by: rightlysouthern(aim low boys,theys ridin ponies) at November 29, 2012 05:37 PM (WkS/c)

328

Posted by: small town girl at November 29, 2012 09:26 PM (CPoFy)

Thanks for the response. One of my main concerns, besides selling the house here, is the wind. I sort of have a "thing" about howling wind and it seemed to do that a lot in WY. Is that just my mind playing tricks on me after several years or is it really that windy?

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, still a Hobbit at November 29, 2012 05:39 PM (NYki8)

329 330 rightly southern,

You're still shooting too high for the SCOAMF in the wall gang...

aim low they're riding cockroaches boys....

Posted by: sven10077 at November 29, 2012 05:39 PM (LRFds)

330

When life gives lemons, make lemonade. If I am able to remain employed I expect to find it much easier to find, and afford to maintain, a kept woman. Food and shelter may be all that's required. I look forward to the new wave of desperation among young single women.

Posted by: Reactionary at November 29, 2012 05:40 PM (jfeoD)

331 315 >> oh dear God....having a Spaten.....the day was way too long for me so i broke my alcohol fast......and it is delicious......

phoenixgirl, I like your taste in beer. Yummy stuff, that Spaten.

Posted by: GnuBreed at November 29, 2012 05:40 PM (ccXZP)

332 331 Polliwog the 'ette,

WY is windy...almost as windy as Manitoba.

Nothing is as loud howly as the Yukon or AK though.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 29, 2012 05:40 PM (LRFds)

333 From George Will: And at least 219 of the 234 House Republicans won in November by margins larger than ObamaÂ’s national margin. http://tinyurl.com/br6otxs

Posted by: Baldy at November 29, 2012 05:40 PM (opS9C)

334 Someone please find a video of this. Chop, chop.

Posted by: Taqiyy. at November 29, 2012 05:40 PM (e7KZr)

335 Let it burn, just let the muthafucka burn.

Posted by: Peaches at November 29, 2012 05:41 PM (kpCLl)

336 This, that is: "McConnell 'Burst Into Laughter' as Geithner Outlined Obama's Plan" http://tinyurl.com/cqxqdhv Weekly Standard link.

Posted by: Taqiyy. at November 29, 2012 05:42 PM (e7KZr)

337 reactionary.... seriously...stay alone and celibate, you are a misogynist......and God forbid, if some dolt hooks up with you...don't procreate.....

Posted by: phoenixgirl at November 29, 2012 05:42 PM (GVxQo)

338 333 reactionary,

when life gives you lemons....grab your gun and steal some Lipton's tea to balance it with...

Abolishing the minimum wage and forcing the EPA to face the public of the areas their royal edicts attack would fix our problems in a decade or two.

Best case is the corrective recoil from Obama's orgasm hitting his fans in the mouth leads to driven men and women who want work.

Worst case is we can save on the blue and white dye for the flag.

May as well get it over with.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 29, 2012 05:42 PM (LRFds)

339 Wait, all those news stories talking about how great the economy that were run during September and October were all bullshit?

All the ads by the Dems talking about the powerful and strong economy were bullshit?

So they lied to us?

Posted by: MrCaniac at November 29, 2012 05:42 PM (Zd/NW)

340 PLEASE. CSPAN must have it, right?

Posted by: Taqiyy. at November 29, 2012 05:43 PM (e7KZr)

341 Bill, hello the fucking country is going broke. Hello? Anyone home? Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at November 29, 2012 08:39 PM (wR+pz) I stopped watching Bill years ago, he's another one with a gigantic ego and his shows are taped in advance. We can handle Christmas tree vs holiday trees on our own. We don't need Ted frigging Baxter!

Posted by: CarolT at November 29, 2012 05:43 PM (z4WKX)

342 well, here is a question about the LIB strategy:

what if taxes do go up on everyone, the sequestration happens, and people aren't outraged/upset?

Posted by: chemjeff at November 29, 2012 05:43 PM (d/5qf)

343 One of my "friends" on Facebook, who is pretty much "family", and who is usually a pretty reliable FisCon/SoCon chicky put this "Cause" against fracking on my page. I told her (politely) that she was out-of-her-freaking-mind. It's the Saudis funding the anti-frack to protect their own interest. We "could be" booming, if we didn't deliberately handcuff ourselves through idiotic Energy "Policy". And PS- don't pick "your" causes for me, thankyouverymuch!

Posted by: Just Another Moron (Formerly New and Semi-New) at November 29, 2012 05:43 PM (mkb9H)

344

Posted by: small town girl at November 29, 2012 09:26 PM (CPoFy)

I`ve been through Laramie, like I said "I`ve been through Laramie". Love Wyoming though, lived there a couple of times out in the western part.

Posted by: rightlysouthern(aim low boys,theys ridin ponies) at November 29, 2012 05:44 PM (WkS/c)

345 It's hard to blame Obama when the voters made this choice. The voters had the opportunity to, and the responsibility to, inform themselves. Willful ignorance is not just a river in Egypt.

Elections have consequences.

Posted by: JohnJ at November 29, 2012 05:44 PM (Tt6ky)

346 345 ChemJeff,

Try to time it so that canada stays pegged to the inflated USD long enough for you to fake your investor class app to Calgary because then we're fucked period.

If 30 million conservative Americans migrated to canada with their families Canada would be the world's military power in 30 years.

If America wants to be "EUrabia 2" fuck her it's done.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 29, 2012 05:45 PM (LRFds)

347 @345 The issue is FIAT money and World Reserve Currency. We can keep printing money with hardly no consequence if the dollar were strong. Once they stop trading in the dollar...the game is over. This is what Obama and ilk want. You can't have Socialism until you destroy Capitalism, and you can't destroy Capitalism if the world is using our currency to trade with.

Posted by: Walter Sobchak at November 29, 2012 05:47 PM (uis79)

348 seriously...stay alone and celibate, you are a misogynist......and God forbid, if some dolt hooks up with you...don't procreate.....

Posted by: phoenixgirl at November 29, 2012 09:42 PM (GVxQo)

Thank you for your interest in my comment, and the kind advice. Naturally any thinking person is at least mildly misogynistic (including the the smarter women). After Satan and Government, women are the third greatest enemy of man kind. As for procreation - anyone dumb enough to bring a child into this world is a tool of the Left - providing them with one more slave. We're all slaves to the underclass now - the trick is to be comfortable in the chains until such time as we can make our escape.

Posted by: Reactionary at November 29, 2012 05:48 PM (jfeoD)

349 All the ads by the Dems talking about the powerful and strong economy were bullshit? "Captain Renault, white courtesy phone. Captain Ranault."

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at November 29, 2012 05:48 PM (CxJM2)

350 346 Just Another Moron,

This nation was blessed by God with abundant resources that had we stayed with the English would have funded her empire for another hundred years.

Our founders exhibition of will coupled with the UK's restraint enabled the backwoods to be the envy of the globe in just 200 years time.

We pissed these gifts away, and have largely heretofore during my life pissed away our birthright.

All we need is people driven to improve their skills and work and a government willing to get the fuck out of our way.

I hate them all just the GOP less.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 29, 2012 05:48 PM (LRFds)

351 Okay, I am unclear on the connection with fiat money here

Posted by: chemjeff at November 29, 2012 05:48 PM (d/5qf)

352 Note to the UN: The fakeastinians have a state. It's called Jordan.

Posted by: Palandine at November 29, 2012 05:49 PM (g7D8V)

353 aim low they're riding cockroaches boys....

Posted by: sven10077 at November 29, 2012 09:39 PM (LRFds)

SurferDoc said they were ridin rats, I reckon they done got lower. heh-heh.

Posted by: rightlysouthern(aim low boys,theys ridin ponies) at November 29, 2012 05:49 PM (WkS/c)

354 @350 The point being...it doesn't matter what the American public likes or dislikes......they must abide by the laws of physics, and when the dollar is Ass Paper....they will feel it.

Posted by: Walter Sobchak at November 29, 2012 05:49 PM (uis79)

355 Hey ChemJeff- While lurking, I have been kinda' following your dating saga. In a non-creepy, non-stalking way, but I have been sorta' engaged in the opera. I have not heard anything about the Romanian after the "Skate Date" episode. Is she 'past'...?

Posted by: Just Another Moron (Formerly New and Semi-New) at November 29, 2012 05:50 PM (mkb9H)

356 "Fiat" from Latin "Let it be".

Posted by: navybrat at November 29, 2012 05:50 PM (lxq8f)

357 345 >> what if taxes do go up on everyone, the sequestration happens, and people aren't outraged/upset?

chemjeff, the estimated hit to GDP if all that happens is over 2%, so before very long we will be in a true (by definition) recession with negative job growth once again.

Some of this will happen very fast. I don't see how people won't be out looking for heads to roll if this occurs.

Posted by: GnuBreed at November 29, 2012 05:50 PM (ccXZP)

358 basically they are stuck trying to play damage control with the MSM....not an envious position BUT I get the feeling they are in "fuck you let's dive" mode. Posted by: sven10077 at November 29, 2012 09:17 PM (LRFds) Obama hates to be made fun of, even if Mitch laughed in little Timmy's face it's a laugh at TFG! He must be fuming! I agree, Mitch and Boehner have had enough of his bull and will walk away. 10% across the board cuts January 1 will accomplish sampler government. Too bad we couldn't keep the military at 100% but it is a start.

Posted by: CarolT at November 29, 2012 05:51 PM (z4WKX)

359 354 CJ,

It is hard for us to implode so long as the world defers to us as Petro dollar and defacto international exchange currency because of our strength.

Luckily Soros has an app for that.....ie disarm the Yankees.

Our GDP is graced with between 50-100 billion of "found power" based on the exchanges.

Once we lose that shit gets really real.

It is far too easy for the feds to inflate our savings to death....hell they are about to steal our 401ks.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 29, 2012 05:51 PM (LRFds)

360

Posted by: Reactionary at November 29, 2012 09:48 PM (jfeoD)

I.... AM....

Posted by: Spartacus at November 29, 2012 05:51 PM (lZBBB)

361 Posted by: Just Another Moron (Formerly New and Semi-New) at November 29, 2012 09:50 PM (mkb9H)

I try to confine such discussions to the ONT

Posted by: chemjeff at November 29, 2012 05:51 PM (d/5qf)

362 Chemjeff, I've had the same thought rattling around in my dome, vis a vis, "what if people aren't upset." My secondary misgiving is also along the lines of "what if it plays out over a long enough timeline that the pols can dissociate effect from cause." In simple terms, I have to catch my lab in the act of doing something wrong, or within about 3 seconds of it, or her little pea brain doesn't establish a connection. One of the problem R politicians have is too much explaining, and reasoning, and your average doofi can't understand it.

Posted by: jakeman at November 29, 2012 05:53 PM (96M6e)

363

This.

[/]You can't have Socialism until you destroy Capitalism, and you can't destroy Capitalism if the world is using our currency to trade with.

Posted by: Walter Sobchak at November 29, 2012 09:47 PM (uis79) [i/]

That! Nail meet head!

Posted by: Just Another Moron (Formerly New and Semi-New) at November 29, 2012 05:53 PM (mkb9H)

364 353 "This nation was blessed by God with abundant resources that had we stayed with the English would have funded her empire for another hundred years."

This is actually not true. Freedom is what gave us the ability to find ways to utilize what others would have discarded as trash. That's how capitalism works. Entrepreneurs find uses for things that others wouldn't have seen.

Resources aren't resources until someone finds a use for them. It is freedom, non-centralized planning, that allows this to happen.

See, e.g., Hong Kong.

Posted by: JohnJ at November 29, 2012 05:53 PM (Tt6ky)

365 I.... AM....

Posted by: Spartacus at November 29, 2012 09:51 PM (lZBBB)

Let's see... how did that movie end? Hmmm...

Posted by: Reactionary at November 29, 2012 05:54 PM (jfeoD)

366

Posted by: GnuBreed at November 29, 2012 09:50 PM (ccXZP)

Yup.... California goes under REALLY quickly... due to a decreasing economy and overburdensome Taxes and Regulation...

Trust me.... I run an IT support company here, mainly Doctors (specialize in Electronic Medical Records).... and my clients are all scared to shit...

Posted by: Spartacus at November 29, 2012 05:54 PM (lZBBB)

367

Posted by: Reactionary at November 29, 2012 09:54 PM (jfeoD)

With betrayal by supposed Allies leading to a Military defeat?

Posted by: Spartacus at November 29, 2012 05:55 PM (lZBBB)

368 Polliwog It really is that windy. We drove through WY on our way to Mt Rushmore last spring and hit a windstorm on the way back. We were in a big sturdy SUV and the car kept shaking. It was unnerving. WY is a quite conservative. My evidence: they sell fireworks all year long with barely any restrictions on how you use them. Lots of antelope that are pretty to look at too

Posted by: L, Elle at November 29, 2012 05:55 PM (0PiQ4)

369 351 Thank you for your interest in my comment, and the kind advice. Naturally any thinking person is at least mildly misogynistic (including the the smarter women). After Satan and Government, women are the third greatest enemy of man kind. As for procreation - anyone dumb enough to bring a child into this world is a tool of the Left - providing them with one more slave. We're all slaves to the underclass now - the trick is to be comfortable in the chains until such time as we can make our escape. As a single white man, I can't help feeling that 70% of single white women are enemies who want to kill me and seize my property. I don't even have to marry and divorce them. I don't get to have sex with them. They just plain want to take what I have, period.

Posted by: rickl at November 29, 2012 05:56 PM (sdi6R)

370 367 John J,

I agree...of course our worse than any King regulatory overlords regulate our trash as well.

I explained to my son how the Spanos family got the money to buy the Chargers.

Point being our resources and more still OUR DRIVE enabled this land.

Somewhere along the way we decided Communists who replaced God with Gaia could Elmer Gantry us to death.

I miss America.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 29, 2012 05:56 PM (LRFds)

371 Posted by: GnuBreed at November 29, 2012 09:50 PM (ccXZP)

Well, we have had negative job growth, in a real sense, for a while now. And I can imagine all sorts of ways that Team Obama can 'adjust' GDP numbers, both legitimately and not, to make it seem like we aren't doing as badly as we are (recall government spending is a component of GDP).

I guess my overriding concern is that what happens if the people actually want big government *and are willing to pay for it*.

Posted by: chemjeff at November 29, 2012 05:56 PM (d/5qf)

372 @364. Sorry. I am still learning the etiquette. I do see that you are well liked here. Good for you.

Posted by: Just Another Moron (Formerly New and Semi-New) at November 29, 2012 05:57 PM (mkb9H)

373 The secret is that China, India, Japan, Russia and a couple others have already started trading outside the dollar. This is being hidden from the public.

Posted by: Walter Sobchak at November 29, 2012 05:58 PM (uis79)

374 Doesn't matter though...the public is too stupid to understand what it means anyway.

Posted by: Walter Sobchak at November 29, 2012 05:58 PM (uis79)

375 With betrayal by supposed Allies leading to a Military defeat?

Posted by: Spartacus at November 29, 2012 09:55 PM (lZBBB)

Something like that. And let's not forget how they decorated the Apian Way in the immediate aftermath. Those were some compelling road signs.

Posted by: Reactionary at November 29, 2012 05:58 PM (jfeoD)

376 Some of this will happen very fast. I don't see how people won't be out looking for heads to roll if this occurs. Posted by: GnuBreed at November 29, 2012 09:50 PM (ccXZP) Obama's head should roll! It was his idea last year for the 10% cuts or sequestration. Boehner has to tell the media that every day!

Posted by: CarolT at November 29, 2012 06:00 PM (z4WKX)

377 Posted by: Just Another Moron (Formerly New and Semi-New) at November 29, 2012 09:57 PM (mkb9H)

Not a big deal.

And just wait until I piss someone else off. Then you'll see how "well liked" I really am.

Posted by: chemjeff at November 29, 2012 06:00 PM (d/5qf)

378 373 sven10077

I miss America too, but great countries have risen and fallen before. Throughout history, life for upwards of 99.9 percent of people has been a nasty, brutal struggle for existence. While we should be appreciative of the blessings we've had, we should, like men, understand that sometimes hard work has to be done.

The principles that made America great will work wherever they are implemented, and there are billions of people in this world more deserving of our effort and sacrifice than the people who voted for Obama are.

Posted by: JohnJ at November 29, 2012 06:03 PM (Tt6ky)

379

"Doesn't matter though...the public is too stupid to understand what it means anyway."

OK so ... this.

Bored tonight so watched O'Reilly and saw segment on big lottery winners. He had this one dude on who won "$ 214 million" powerball except after taxes, etc. he ended up with 63 million.

Now 63 million is pretty kewl but I wish instead of a label stating he was $214 Powerball winner it said "$214 Powerball winner who actually got $63 million after taxes" winner.

I think there are lots of people who would have no idea what that description meant. How could he be teh $214 million Powerball winner and only get $63 million"?????????????????

Posted by: tank at November 29, 2012 06:03 PM (t36TP)

380 We have to stop funding the UN and the Palestinians. Screw them!

Posted by: CarolT at November 29, 2012 06:04 PM (z4WKX)

381 I don't get to have sex with them.

They just plain want to take what I have, period.

Posted by: rickl at November 29, 2012 09:56 PM (sdi6R)

This - exactly this. How many bastards am I paying to support, yet I did not father even one of them. The average American female has a fierce princess mentality - to them the man is a servant who exists to provide money.

Posted by: Reactionary at November 29, 2012 06:04 PM (jfeoD)

382 I miss America.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 29, 2012 09:56 PM (LRFds)

Me too. I remember at 12yrs going out in one of the farm trucks and scrapping a load of melons to sell by the road for the Fourth to make me some money. A youngen is regulated from doing that now if they wanted to, hell, a grownup is.

Posted by: rightlysouthern(aim low boys,theys ridin ponies) at November 29, 2012 06:05 PM (WkS/c)

383 I took the campaign season off and am pondering going into a small logistics business as founder. Posted by: sven10077 at November 29, 2012 09:30 PM (LRFds) ---------------------------------------------------------- Hey sven. That is exactly what I am going to do too. Where are you?

Posted by: Truck Monkey at November 29, 2012 06:05 PM (jucos)

384 Men, especially American men, are treated far better by non-American women than by American women. That's another good reason to travel.

Posted by: JohnJ at November 29, 2012 06:05 PM (Tt6ky)

385
I guess my overriding concern is that what happens if the people actually want big government *and are willing to pay for it*.

Posted by: chemjeff at November 29, 2012 09:56 PM (d/5qf)

Chemjeff, I am really not concerned wit those that say they want big govt AND want o pa for it.

i'm reminded of Buffet, Hollywood, GE, and our saying over and over again to end them an envelope to donate to irs.

they of course want what benefits them, but they absolutely hide their money. and do not actually mean THEY themselves pay for it.

Posted by: willow at November 29, 2012 06:07 PM (hX8cq)

386 JohnJ- Less Messican "hispanic" immigrants, who seem pre-disposed to socialism, and more asians and ex-Stan'ians, who are truely yearning to be free" really-want-to-be-start-up Capitalists?

Posted by: Just Another Moron (Formerly New and Semi-New) at November 29, 2012 06:08 PM (mkb9H)

387 hahaah rolls eyes.

Posted by: willow at November 29, 2012 06:09 PM (hX8cq)

388 386 Truck monkey,

I'm currently in Indiana only thing holding me back is son's aversion to homework when no one is looking.

I figure I'll start out with a diesel F350 and haul travel trailers for Elkton IN to points unknown.

Dad is a trucker, and when able I plan to go OTR.

Keep the sunny side up and rubber side down.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 29, 2012 06:09 PM (LRFds)

389 Posted by: jakeman at November 29, 2012 09:53 PM (96M6e)

Well, what brings up this concern, in part, is that I was in Barnes and Noble the other day and I happened to come across Lakoff's book "Moral Politics". (Yes, that Lakoff.) I didn't buy the book because Lakoff is a liberal asshole, but I did browse through it enough to get the general gist of the types of arguments he was making. Basically, he classifies the difference between liberals' and conservatives' view of government such that liberals believe in Government as Nurturing Parent, while conservatives believe in Government as Strict Parent. Now his characterization of the conservative position is of course a caricature, but I find no reason to believe that he didn't present the liberal view forthrightly. So in his view, the Nurturing Parent Government is exactly what you think it would be - a benevolent nanny. And just in my casual observations, I think this view of government is way more widespread than we would like it to be. It even crops up among conservatives from time to time.

So I wonder if the FSA hypothesis doesn't have the cause and effect backwards: did the people vote for Obama because they wanted free shit without paying for it, or did the people vote for Obama because they actually believe in the liberal Nurturing Parent Government view that Obama espouses, and so therefore would be willing to pay to have that view realized, but are nonetheless happy to accept the 100% discount that Obama (with Republican complicity) offer them with all of the bennies that they get?

The LIB strategy seems predicated on the belief that the former claim is valid, but not the latter claim. If the latter claim is valid, and we proceed with LIB, then liberal government is here to stay permanently.

Anyway, just some procrastination to avoid grading.

Posted by: chemjeff at November 29, 2012 06:10 PM (d/5qf)

390 If Obama, Reid and Pelosi won't offer any cuts or any entitlement fixes, GOP should let ALL the tax cuts expire. "Obama insisted on a balanced approach. The American people voted for a balanced approach. I can't in good conscience vote for a deal offering no balance." Period, full stop, end of discussion. Then no extension of the debt ceiling without a balanced approach. No continuing resolutions without balance.

Nail him to the cross of a balanced approach.

Posted by: little miss spellcheck at November 29, 2012 06:12 PM (a5ljo)

391 389 Huh? I think you have me confused with someone else.

Posted by: JohnJ at November 29, 2012 06:13 PM (Tt6ky)

392 ChemJeff It doesn't matter if that what people want...they won't be able to afford it...the only currency valuable enough to afford the government they want is Freedom. Once they get a taste of that....they will be begging to go back to the way it was.

Posted by: Walter Sobchak at November 29, 2012 06:14 PM (uis79)

393 Blame Bush. Blame the Republicans. Blame "the rich". Where are ANY Dem cuts? We (R's) are going to be blamed anyway! When does our "offensive" start. We (R's). are. not. going. to. be. liked. either. way. Walk away. Sequestration and the hikes. Let "them" own it. LIB.

Posted by: Just Another Moron (Formerly New and Semi-New) at November 29, 2012 06:14 PM (mkb9H)

394 @396 You damn skippy!

Posted by: Walter Sobchak at November 29, 2012 06:19 PM (uis79)

395 Willow has a good point, as long as someone else has the ability to pay Big Gov, they`re all for it, even parts of Big Biz. When that ability to pay goes by the wayside, the takers are unable to support the centralized Fed, the makers have said fuck it, Chicken Little is running around saying I`m right, the sky IS falling, well, it`s over.

Posted by: rightlysouthern(aim low boys,theys ridin ponies) at November 29, 2012 06:25 PM (WkS/c)

396 394 389 Huh? I think you have me confused with someone else.

Posted by: JohnJ at November 29, 2012 10:13 PM (Tt6ky)

I was not slandering you. I was simply commenting on your "...billions of people in this world more deserving of our effort...". I was trying to make the observation that there are those that really want the "American Dream" of possibility, and opportunity, without the expectation of hand-outs. I am not against immigration. I want more "like-minded" Capitalists. Of any background. So long as they believe in the Constitution, and the ideal of more contribution than entitlement. That's all.

Posted by: Just Another Moron (Formerly New and Semi-New) at November 29, 2012 06:25 PM (mkb9H)

397 Well they added new romulus for season seven...I did not realize I had not logged on in STO since 9/29

Posted by: sven10077 at November 29, 2012 06:27 PM (LRFds)

398 Well, it looks like we don't have to worry about the GOP caving at least. So there is that. My suggestion is that they call Obama's bluff. Loudly propose tax increases on the wealthy, than remark that the only thing holding back a deal are the complete lack of cuts. For fucks sake, the retard wants even more spending. Let it burn??? Shit- might as well be spitting at an approaching forest fire.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at November 29, 2012 06:29 PM (X9Mnx)

399 Well if an analyst said it I guess it must be true

Posted by: occam at November 29, 2012 06:37 PM (BdTgC)

400 "I am not against immigration. I want more "like-minded" Capitalists. Of any background. So long as they believe in the Constitution, and the ideal of more contribution than entitlement. That's all."

One of the main reasons this nation has transformed into a leftist/statist society is because of that kind of thinking. This nation achieved it's greatness not just by capitalism and The Constitution. It achieved it's greatness, due in no small part, to a common culture based on the European West and it's Christian virtues. There was nothing noble in adopting the liberal philosophy of everyone is equal in regards to our immigration policies.

Posted by: lowandslow at November 29, 2012 06:38 PM (GZitp)

401 403 lowandslow,

That ship has sailed my friend.

My surname is in Dome'sday....

Pan Anglia is the first culture to ever manufacture the gun that blew out its brains.

Canada is probably our last hope.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 29, 2012 06:46 PM (LRFds)

402 But its not his fault!! You big meanie!

Signed,

51% of the electorate of the former United States

Posted by: Peggy at November 29, 2012 06:55 PM (FIimA)

403 330 Posted by: rightlysouthern(aim low boys,theys ridin ponies) at November 29, 2012 09:37 PM (WkS/c)
________
I don't know why I posted that, except it popped into my head reading of the day's non-events.

Posted by: Baldy at November 29, 2012 06:57 PM (opS9C)

404 406 Baldy,

It is apt....

watch the movie "Copland" and then "Ft Apache the Bronx"

Posted by: sven10077 at November 29, 2012 06:59 PM (LRFds)

405

If any of you are expecting anything from the Republicans to oppose this - forget about it. Fact of the matter is they are part of the ruling class that has a vested interest in the status quo just like the democrats. So if you think for a second they are looking to save America, you might as well bend over.

When the people rose up and gave the republicans the house majority, they set about marginalizing the very essence of what brought them back to relevance. They are back to 2008 doldrums right now as a regional party of wannabe democrats mouthing platitudes to their base. Fuck them and fuck the democrats.

Foolish people who think that there is such a thing as a conservative wing in Washington can continue to delude theselves. To anyone one here trying to massage hope in the Republicans listen up. You have been had. They want your votes and then do the same as the other guy at the trough. Wake the fuck up and smell the roses.

Posted by: Old Texas Turkey at November 29, 2012 07:03 PM (xjTfl)

406 408 Old Texas Turkey,

maybe but those hamsters are the only force we have in the field....

Run Red and Texas better be ready....

I think several states will come along for the ride.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 29, 2012 07:07 PM (LRFds)

407 I think several states will come along for the ride.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 29, 2012 11:07 PM (LRFds)

Roger that.

Posted by: rightlysouthern(aim low boys,theys ridin ponies) at November 29, 2012 07:43 PM (WkS/c)

408 The terms "recession" and "expansion" in the context of economics have to with the rate of fall or of rise in GDP. In 2012, GDP has actually risen FASTER than forecast and than previously understood, upwards of 2.5%. Meanwhile, all of Europe, Russia, Iran, Australia, in all of those countries the economy is either SHRINKING or growing at a rate well under 2%. So, naturally, Instapuddinhead goes off and finds stats that say, Don't believe your lying eyes, the economy is shrinking ... because hernia devices went up in price 12 percent or something. What else WOULD Instapuddinhead say in light of this growth rate news? Trash it; Insta always trashes it. And Ace always follows, licking up the droppings from Instapuddinhead's butt.

Posted by: Rex the Wonder God at November 29, 2012 07:52 PM (21TJo)

409 Well wondergod, me and about everyone I know have recessed since about 2007. I`ve seen a lot of government expansion, is that what is making your point.

Posted by: rightlysouthern(aim low boys,theys ridin ponies) at November 29, 2012 08:21 PM (WkS/c)

410 Let it burn baby burn

/not racist, Acest...

Posted by: TheGAGLine at November 29, 2012 09:38 PM (EXZZI)

411 You have to break it completely before you can fix it.

Posted by: Hand Solo at November 30, 2012 05:20 AM (vu3g7)

412 11 Since 2008, when were we ever out of one? There's been no recovery. None.

What we have now is a depression. And it's going to get worse than even that. Posted by: Soona at November 29, 2012 07:42 PM (oy/E2)

Yep. I remember reading about Japan, and how they kept trying to dig themselves out by pumping more $$$ in, over & over, and how the oped writers kept saying "Are we in a recession?" and denying it in the main for months, if not years before the crash.

I remember thinking at the time, well DUH, those of us in the middle/towards the bottom were already living it - $$$ buying less & less, raises low to non-existent, if that's not a recession, it sure as shit felt like one.

With the Feds doing what Japan did, I knew we were in for it, but having failed pretty much any class math related in HS & the USN, then in college, what do I know?

Posted by: Amy Shulkusky at November 30, 2012 07:26 AM (uMfFZ)

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