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October 26, 2012

What Romney Needs to Win Wisconsin
— CAC

In three charts.
Walker won easily in his recall not thanks to depressed Democrats in Madison or Milwaukee but by amped support in the Milwaukee suburbs, the Green Bay markets, and, importantly, the "rest of" the state. Places like NW Wisconsin (Duluth Metropolitan Area) W Wisconsin (part of the Twin Cities Metropolitan Area) and Central Wisconsin. These "other parts" get ignored but are critical for a Republican and can make a serious difference.

Evidence below the fold, VERY big evidence.

[Update - Andy: Click the images to embiggen] Snapshots of two different crosstabs by region.

Crosstab by region for Scott Walker-Tom Barrett in Recall fight, Marquette Law Poll May 26 2012:

Crosstab by region for Mitt Romney-President Barack Obama, Marquette Law Poll October 17 2012:

A very obvious difference in the "rest of" territory, confirmed when you compare Romney's narrow los by .5% in this to Thompson's equally razor-thin .3% "win" in the same poll:

Crosstab by region for Tommy Thompson-Tammy Baldwin, Marquette Law Poll October 17 2012:

While this may seem like a subtle difference, closing the gap by another 4 points while performing roughly the same in all other regions flips a tight race in the Republicans' favor.

Winning the region outright, like Walker managed to do? President Romney. This is why ads are going up in Minnesota, and also why Governor Romney must push visits and efforts in the often-neglected western and central regions of the state. Well, if he wants to win, that is. But hey, what do I know. Not like I covered the Badger state during the recall.

Posted by: CAC at 03:17 PM | Comments (186)
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1 What Romney Needs to Win Wisconsin
More votes.

You're welcome.

Posted by: Methos at October 26, 2012 03:23 PM (hO9ad)

2 It would read better in plaid.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Coming soon. at October 26, 2012 03:24 PM (Gk3SS)

3 in b4 all the gregs

Posted by: soothie at October 26, 2012 03:24 PM (052zE)

4 CAC is the man. You betcha believe that the WiGOP has these tools in place after all they've been through. Scary thought. This has been a trap for the left to fall into. Again. Think of famous battles, Wisconsin is the left's Waterloo.

Posted by: joeindc44 will start talking like biden. like. biden. at October 26, 2012 03:24 PM (QxSug)

5 Bassive Malls

Posted by: The Jackhole at October 26, 2012 03:25 PM (nTgAI)

6 Did Biden draw the retarded looking red "circle" in the middle image?

Posted by: lorien1973 at October 26, 2012 03:25 PM (mcWHD)

7 Mitt the Viking!! Shouldn't that play well in Minnesota??

Posted by: Jmel at October 26, 2012 03:26 PM (c+D8V)

8 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: steevy at October 26, 2012 03:26 PM (Ts9tU)

9 Numbers, just numbers.

Posted by: BHO at October 26, 2012 03:27 PM (6TB1Z)

10 I mean, how can Romney not take advantage of these tools? You better believe that romney is prob as popular or more as Walker in these sections of Wi

Posted by: joeindc44 will start talking like biden. like. biden. at October 26, 2012 03:27 PM (QxSug)

11 wow. equal-width tables? got spreadsheet? o.o

Posted by: jimi ray at October 26, 2012 03:27 PM (79EF9)

12 You know, this is above 7th grade level math.

Posted by: Barack "Mathlete" Obama at October 26, 2012 03:27 PM (vjyZP)

13 I like the idea of winning Wisconsin, but really, how much cheese can one person eat ?!?

Posted by: Adriane at October 26, 2012 03:30 PM (/OhbZ)

14 Big fucking page !

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at October 26, 2012 03:30 PM (lo/S5)

15 From what I've seen from Romney and his campaign here in the last month, I can't imagine this has escaped their attention.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at October 26, 2012 03:31 PM (BuSM8)

16 Now you've done it. My mistress, uberjustice Klovenhoofer is gonna be mad and beat me.

Thank you.

Posted by: Gerg at October 26, 2012 03:31 PM (UW6NX)

17 And we would have to be idiots to think that Romney's people haven't game-planned these type of numbers in every winnable and barely winnable state. I'm confident they have similar charts for Ohio, Michigan, Pennsylvania, New Mexico, Minnesota, New Jersey, and Oregon as well.

But no...instead of looking to all available evidence over the last 9 months that these Romney people actually DO know what they're doing, we get posts all day about media polls with fucked up demos. Because keeping Obama's base from totally bailing on him with 11 days to go if a "key state" showed Romney ahead wouldn't AT ALL be part of a media outlet's polling plan.

Not at all...

Posted by: trumpetdaddy at October 26, 2012 03:32 PM (dcoFe)

18 IMO... Romney will win Ohio, Wisconsin, Virginia, FL and CO. I doubt he wins Michigan and PA.

Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at October 26, 2012 03:34 PM (DGIjM)

19 Just because I don't know when else would be a good time to ask, how is election night going to be handled? Will it be a series of posts with updates in the comments, or Andy's liveblog, or what?

Posted by: Methos at October 26, 2012 03:34 PM (hO9ad)

20 You really need to learn how to post a thumbnail with a link to the full chart, so that you don't screw up the formatting for the comments.

Posted by: TH at October 26, 2012 03:35 PM (AprKJ)

21 trumpetdaddy at October 26, 2012 07:32 PM (dcoFe)

It's almost like there's a competent adult in a leadership role in the Romney campaign that has a plan and the leadership skills to implement it.

I wonder who that person is? Hell, that person could run for president someday!

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at October 26, 2012 03:35 PM (BuSM8)

22 So are Romney ads running in Wisconsin? How about Michigan and PA?

Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at October 26, 2012 03:35 PM (DGIjM)

I suspect the Wisconsin GOP knows this already, and that is why they have pushed for this from Team Romney. Don't be shocked- not my call, but want it out there- don't be shocked if Romney actually wins Wisconsin while losing another critical state. The Republicans are heavily invested under Reince, Walker and the rest, and as we learned from the misinformation attempts during the recall, the R ground game is stronger than it has ever been. We had a troll in here constantly whining how Barrett had a superior ground game and Walker wasn't fighting and blah blah blah- which all turned out to be lies. Per Dave Weigel, no friend to the right, the current R operations aren't at the capacity of June but are humming and far more engaged in than in the previous Presidential races. I'd feel great if Romney/Ryan did a tour through the north and west and central in addition to advertising and I suspect we will see it soon.

Posted by: CAC at October 26, 2012 03:36 PM (aWgIx)

24 I find the new format refreshing.

Posted by: Guy with a REALLY large screen at October 26, 2012 03:36 PM (+/VIS)

25 Ouch

http://theothermccain.com/2012/10/26/about-that-creepy-obama-first-time-ad/

Posted by: @PurpAv at October 26, 2012 03:37 PM (eRV2W)

Because keeping Obama's base from totally bailing on him with 11 days to go if a "key state" showed Romney ahead wouldn't AT ALL be part of a media outlet's polling plan.

This. Massive Psy-Ops going on right now. "ooo, it's close. It's so close! Down to the wire."

Bullshit.

Posted by: Log Cabin at October 26, 2012 03:37 PM (JV/H0)

27 Fond du Lac is fond of CAC!

Posted by: ChampionCapuaCheesehead at October 26, 2012 03:37 PM (KZi9D)

28 Damn....SC is a lock for Romney....wish I could votr somewhere else

Posted by: BignJames at October 26, 2012 03:37 PM (rlFQ+)

29 I have heard Pubbie PAC ads here near Madison since Monday or Tuesday, perhaps. I don't think I've heard a Romney campaign ad yet. However, I don't watch TV so my only source is radio.

Posted by: Popcorn at October 26, 2012 03:37 PM (uIpSF)

Crap, I just realized I'm going to end up with f'ing Alan Grayson as my rep again probably. Yes, I was slow on the uptake. Didn't do the primary because my kid was sick. Go ahead, make fun of my stupid district. Osceola County: Clown County Florida.

Posted by: Beagle at October 26, 2012 03:38 PM (sOtz/)

31 1 What Romney Needs to Win Wisconsin
More votes.

You're welcome.

Posted by: Methos at October 26, 2012 07:23 PM (hO9ad)

John Madden, is that you?

Posted by: DangerGirl (@deadlyestrogen) at October 26, 2012 03:38 PM (GrtrJ)

32 Off topic, but I found this at Instapundit: http://cdn.pjmedia.com/instapundit/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/unwantedpresidency.jpg "Heh", to coin a phrase. (Due to the widescreen blog post, I can paste the full URL with a clear conscience.)

Posted by: rickl at October 26, 2012 03:38 PM (sdi6R)

33 No matter where you live....fill your car with voters and strap a few to the roof (in honor of Seamus)

Posted by: kawfytawk at October 26, 2012 03:38 PM (JWLqy)

34 Cliff notes on this and tell pixy this is a new blog fuck up. Just when you think you have seen every possible blog style, ace surprises us.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at October 26, 2012 03:38 PM (wR+pz)

35 Romney needs to become a Green Bay Packers cheerleader to win Wisconsin.

Posted by: Herbert Hymenhopper at October 26, 2012 03:38 PM (XoyFB)

36
its still 1979, with the dot matrix computer printout.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 26, 2012 03:39 PM (PHb2k)

37 Derp.

Posted by: Charlie Choadsmoker at October 26, 2012 03:39 PM (aHR5E)

38 30 Crap, I just realized I'm going to end up with f'ingAlan Grayson as my rep again probably. Yes, I was slow on the uptake. Didn't do the primary because my kid was sick. Go ahead, make fun of my stupid district. Osceola County: Clown County Florida. Posted by: Beagle at October 26, 2012 07:38 PM (sOtz/) Oh good God.. he is going to win?

Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at October 26, 2012 03:40 PM (DGIjM)

39 I promise fried cheese curds to all Wisconsinites who vote for Romney!

Done! Ok,.. a beer or a brandy alexander goes with the curds.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at October 26, 2012 03:40 PM (UTq/I)

40 Barone alluded to this in his affluent suburbs column. It is why I already have Wisconsin in the red column.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at October 26, 2012 03:41 PM (/i3Yt)

41 If I've told him once, I've told him a thousand motherfuckin' times ...

Posted by: Andy at October 26, 2012 03:42 PM (OZPoa)

42 Grayson's operation needs to be long term infiltrated and evidence gathered. There's no way a creep like him is operating squeaky clean. No way. No how. Not possible.

Posted by: @PurpAv at October 26, 2012 03:43 PM (eRV2W)

43 That one's old, Billy Bob.

Really, really old.

Posted by: Andy at October 26, 2012 03:43 PM (OZPoa)

My glorious margin-killing images!

You are a fiend, Andy.

Posted by: CAC at October 26, 2012 03:44 PM (aWgIx)

45 Yeah, I liked the charts better when they were embiggened.

Posted by: rickl at October 26, 2012 03:44 PM (sdi6R)

46 >> Just because I don't know when else would be a good time to ask, how is election night going to be handled? Will it be a series of posts with updates in the comments, or Andy's liveblog, or what?

Yes, both.

Posted by: Andy at October 26, 2012 03:45 PM (OZPoa)

Crap, I just realized I'm going to end up with f'ingAlan Grayson as my rep again probably. Yes, I was slow on the uptake. Didn't do the primary because my kid was sick. Go ahead, make fun of my stupid district. Osceola County: Clown County Florida.

--------

Is he seriously going to win the same seat he lost, or is that a different seat? Theres no way that a guy that loses by 18 points in a district wins that same district the following election, right?

Posted by: Rich at October 26, 2012 03:46 PM (pnHKr)

48 2 It would read better in plaid. Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Coming soon. at October 26, 2012 07:24 PM (Gk3SS) What isn't? Exhibit A: http://tinyurl.com/8e23a3d Nsfwish

Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 26, 2012 03:46 PM (GEICT)

49 34 Cliff notes on this and tell pixy this is a new blog fuck up. Just when you think you have seen every possible blog style, ace surprises us.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at October 26, 2012 07:38 PM (wR+pz)

You are in quite the pissy mood tonight.....get some liquor.

Posted by: Tami at October 26, 2012 03:46 PM (X6akg)

50 As for coverage, hopefully aoshqdd will have an interactive map again. Working on it with a team.

Posted by: CAC at October 26, 2012 03:46 PM (aWgIx)

51 x=1. Solve for x. This is 8th grade math, isn't it? Above my pay grade.

Posted by: Barqui Telewoobie McPull-upPants the First at October 26, 2012 03:47 PM (OJI9t)

52 Crap, I just realized I'm going to end up with f'ingAlan Grayson as my rep again probably.Posted by: Beagle

You should connect with that person who ran MyCongressmanIsNuts. I guess she only has the FaceBork page now but that was a pretty successful website for a gadfly.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at October 26, 2012 03:47 PM (DKxu1)

53 The fact that this race is close, and that I see normal looking people driving cars with SCOAMTT stickers, is sad and absurd.

Posted by: Justamom in Achin' Akin's district at October 26, 2012 03:48 PM (Sptt8)

54 43 That one's old, Billy Bob.

Really, really old.

But Sooo true.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at October 26, 2012 03:48 PM (wR+pz)

55 Psst. CAC Marginkiller is only 1/32 Indian.

Pass it on.

Posted by: Andy at October 26, 2012 03:48 PM (OZPoa)

56 Actual, honest-to-God crosstabs. This. Is. Awesome.

Posted by: The Rogue Economist at October 26, 2012 03:49 PM (Zpaow)

57 I'd have left it, but in all likelihood, this'll be the post you have to live with 'til the ONT.

Scrolling up and down is ok. Left and right is a no-go.

Posted by: Andy at October 26, 2012 03:50 PM (OZPoa)

58 Cross-tabs on a Friday night...

And posting comments underneath...

Damn.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at October 26, 2012 03:52 PM (DKxu1)

59
Speaking of idiots winning, is Fauxahontus really ahead in MA?

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 26, 2012 03:52 PM (PHb2k)

#55

Thanks for the fix dude.

Posted by: CAC at October 26, 2012 03:52 PM (aWgIx)

61 The public employee unions think that everyone outside of "government" are their slaves.

Posted by: Jack at October 26, 2012 03:52 PM (wUFaM)

62 >> Actual, honest-to-God crosstabs.

From dBase III, I'd say.

Posted by: Andy at October 26, 2012 03:52 PM (OZPoa)

Crosstabs. Meh. I like maps. Big. and Plaid.

Posted by: garrett at October 26, 2012 03:53 PM (/G0Rd)

64 Excellent, guys. I found in other elections that I got hopelessly behind in the comments.

Thanks ahead of time for all the work you're doing.

Posted by: Methos at October 26, 2012 03:53 PM (hO9ad)

65 Is he seriously going to win the same seat he lost, or is that a different seat? Theres no way that a guy that loses by 18 points in a district wins that same district the following election, right? Posted by: Rich at October 26, 2012 07:46 PM (pnHKr) From what I understand, it's a new re-drawn district. Heavily minority. Surprise, surprise.....

Posted by: Barqui Telewoobie McPull-upPants the First at October 26, 2012 03:53 PM (OJI9t)

66 SHIT...sock off

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC in Johnson County laughing at Cook County at October 26, 2012 03:54 PM (OJI9t)

67
As for coverage, hopefully aoshqdd will have an interactive map again. Working on it with a team.

Posted by: CAC at October 26, 2012 07:46 PM (aWgIx)

Interactive Plaid Maps! Wooot!

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 26, 2012 03:54 PM (TIIx5)

68
A live blog on election night, well that's a challenge. I do know that the people trying to do different sections of the country didn't work, everybody just jumps to the top thread.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 26, 2012 03:56 PM (PHb2k)

>> Working on it with a team.

Top Men?

Posted by: garrett at October 26, 2012 03:57 PM (/G0Rd)

70 I soo want this to be over.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at October 26, 2012 03:57 PM (wR+pz)

71 Top. Men.

Posted by: trumpetdaddy at October 26, 2012 03:57 PM (dcoFe)

72 CAC, have you always had balls the size of cue balls?!

Posted by: TLGM at October 26, 2012 03:57 PM (appbn)

Meanwhile back at the Hall of Justice........

Just got a call inviting me to a Romney Ryan victory rally in Marion, Ohio for Oct 28 (That's SUNDAY! SUNDAY! SUNDAY!). Romney, Ryan and a cast of ....a lot of people at the Veterans Memorial Hall in Marion.

Game on still in Ohio.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes..... at October 26, 2012 03:58 PM (sJTmU)

74 Just got a call inviting me to a Romney Ryan victory rally in Marion, Ohio for Oct 28 (That's SUNDAY! SUNDAY! SUNDAY!). Romney, Ryan and a cast of ....a lot of people at the Veterans Memorial Hall in Marion. Game on still in Ohio. Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes..... at October 26, 2012 07:58 PM (sJTmU) I hope you go and report back to us....with pics

Posted by: kawfytawk at October 26, 2012 03:59 PM (JWLqy)

75 >>From dBase III, I'd say. Looks that way. Could also be STATA or SPSS (spent too much time in grad school with those two), but I think you're right.

Posted by: The Rogue Economist at October 26, 2012 04:00 PM (Zpaow)

76 @73

Hell yeah

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at October 26, 2012 04:00 PM (wR+pz)

77 Incidentally, for those wondering where ad spending is going. Casual couple of hours listening to the radio whilst driving about Cincinnati I heard Romney radio ad every other ad on top AM station in town and same Romney ad on top FM AOR station in town. Only one Obama ad and it was on the AOR station. Almost all Obama radio in The 'Nati is on black station.

Total base ad effort for Obama on radio, at least.

I don't watch TV except at work, where ads are evenly split between the two, from what I've seen the last week.

Posted by: trumpetdaddy at October 26, 2012 04:01 PM (dcoFe)

78 Patricia Heaton is at the RR rally tonight.....from twitter:

Patricia Heaton on Ryan: "Backstage I didn't recognize him with his shirt on."

Posted by: Tami at October 26, 2012 04:03 PM (X6akg)

79 77 If it doesn't have pretty pictures, Obama's base can't quite follow it...

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at October 26, 2012 04:03 PM (SAA1o)

80 "Patricia Heaton on Ryan" Ooh, la la...

Posted by: TLGM at October 26, 2012 04:04 PM (appbn)

81 CAC when you said you loved polls, I didn't think you like LOVED polls.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Regular! With Full Stomping Power! at October 26, 2012 04:04 PM (eMjRH)

82 @73 Marion, eh? That's a good example of a formerly-heavily union area that is now turning R. Lots of job losses will do that.

Also near where my wife grew up in Bucyrus.

Good to see they are drawing in the north central areas, Wyandot, Crawford, Marion, Seneca, and Delaware Counties. Lots of white, blue-collar voters there.

Lots of deer-hunting, bitter clingers.

Posted by: trumpetdaddy at October 26, 2012 04:05 PM (dcoFe)

83 I just went to the Chicago Tribune site to see if, through some miracle, they were covering the Petraeus news. They are not, and they also just endorsed Obama.

Posted by: Whoever this is, it's definitely not Michael at October 26, 2012 04:06 PM (JVCVF)

84 Two words: Free Government Cheese

Posted by: zippy at October 26, 2012 04:06 PM (eytQe)

85 The Benghazi video?

http://tinyurl.com/9ml2ngo

Yeah, lets all get to see it...

Posted by: ChrisP at October 26, 2012 04:06 PM (84xB+)

86 oh man, if Wisconsin goes red and puts Romney over the top, I will eat so much Wisconsin cheese

Posted by: chemjeff at October 26, 2012 04:07 PM (d/5qf)

87 85 Obama Cheese.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at October 26, 2012 04:07 PM (SAA1o)

88 "But no...instead of looking to all available evidence over the last 9 months that these Romney people actually DO know what they're doing, we get posts all day about media polls with fucked up demos. Because keeping Obama's base from totally bailing on him with 11 days to go if a "key state" showed Romney ahead wouldn't AT ALL be part of a media outlet's polling plan.

Not at all..."

QFT

Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 26, 2012 04:08 PM (dX4hn)

89 Sooooo, are we having Moron Meetups or not? I think a night of one would be great.

Posted by: Hobojerky at October 26, 2012 04:08 PM (hlwt5)

Harry Reid in motorcade crash.

http://tinyurl.com/8mzb4e8.

Posted by: That Bitch Karma at October 26, 2012 04:08 PM (wSTfB)

91 To repeat my question from earlier, how does WI not go R with Paul Ryan on the ticket? Those voters don't want a home-state president in 8 years?

Posted by: toby928© at October 26, 2012 04:09 PM (QupBk)

92 Posted by: ChrisP at October 26, 2012 08:06 PM (84xB+) McLame needs to tell Obama....remember, as you told me.... you won....well yes you did... and you own this

Posted by: kawfytawk at October 26, 2012 04:09 PM (JWLqy)

>> I will eat so much Wisconsin cheese

How you doin'?

Posted by: Wisconsin Shaped Cheddar at October 26, 2012 04:09 PM (/G0Rd)

94 info for the rally in Marion Ohio on sunday linked in my name

Posted by: not the mama at October 26, 2012 04:09 PM (kzCIn)

95 "We had a troll in here constantly whining how Barrett had a superior ground game and Walker wasn't fighting"

Had?!?!?!?!

Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 26, 2012 04:10 PM (dX4hn)

96 yeah CAC I was a little bit let down, I was expecting an embiggened plaid map

Posted by: chemjeff at October 26, 2012 04:10 PM (d/5qf)

97 Romney adviser Eric Fehrnstrom says he believes race in MN is tied, which is why theyÂ’re going up with ads in Minneapolis. Â— Garrett Haake (@GarrettNBCNews) October 26, 2012

Posted by: Evilpens at October 26, 2012 04:10 PM (ck76k)

98 I still expect massive shenanigans in Dane County, where the colleges WILL be in session this time. All I want is Ohio, Florida, Virginia and some other state. Colorado or Iowa/New Hampshire seem like better gets.

Posted by: Chris R at October 26, 2012 04:11 PM (qP4e9)

99 93 The discrepancy in "all other media markets" might, might, in part, be based on people's fear of the r-word. (You know which one.)

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at October 26, 2012 04:11 PM (SAA1o)

100 I think Romney WILL win Ohio, and doesn't really NEED Wisconsin... But I fully support going after it. Good to have a nice buffer. And imagine how sweet it would be to turn a blue state red on election day? If nothing else, it's making Obama squirm and that is just delicious.

Posted by: TLGM at October 26, 2012 04:11 PM (appbn)

101 I don't think Wisconsin is going for Romney. We haven't voted for a Republican President since 1984 and we've had plenty of GOP Governors & Senators in that time. Living in Madison, I can report that the local liberals basically blew their wad in the recall election and there's not even 1/100 of the passion around this race, but the Obama ads that run here are pure red meat designed to make sure turnout doesn't dip too low. I'm sure it won't. Central WI isn't reliably Republican at all. The key central counties of Wood, Portage & Marathon are always very tight races. If Romney wins it'll have to be on the backs of Green Bay and the Fox Cities and the Milwaukee suburbs. So yes, showing up in a Packers jersey might not be a bad idea. However, anyone offering a "Brandy Alexander" would be laughed out of the state. That's some John Kerry level of ignorance.

Posted by: emily_argus at October 26, 2012 04:12 PM (cmvCu)

102 "Is he seriously going to win the same seat he lost, or is that a different seat? Theres no way that a guy that loses by 18 points in a district wins that same district the following election, right?"

Different seat. And I'm going to pretty surprised if he wins.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 26, 2012 04:13 PM (dX4hn)

103 @99 I've been wondering when they would deploy in Scandi country. We polled MN weeks ago and the numbers were not pretty, to say the least, for Obama. Twin Cities suburbanites not at all enamored with Barry.

I figured it was only a matter of time before Romney went after the Svens and Gustavs before ice fishing season set in.

Posted by: trumpetdaddy at October 26, 2012 04:14 PM (dcoFe)

104 Video:

Obama Killed Joe the Plumber

http://t.co/5syLxvpE

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 26, 2012 04:14 PM (piMMO)

105 178 Your fly is down.

Posted by: soothie at October 26, 2012 04:14 PM (vzLhi)

106 I honestly do not understand what the fuss is about.

Have we forgotten that there is not currently a single major pollster that is not WILDLY oversampling Democrats?

According to Gallup the electorate is R +3. Republicans have increased enthusiasm by 40 points over 2008, our financial situation and GOTV efforts are galaxies better than 2008. Romney has tied with women, leads with men by double digits and Independents by an average of almost 20 points. In addition we have a POTUS embroiled in a Libya scandal that will only grow worse in the next week and a half.

Even Rasmussen is still turning out polls with D +6 samples. That whole charade is about to go away very quickly. Gallup has already started to turn with his Romney +5 poll today. By Tuesday Gallup will have Romney + 7 or +8. Rasmussen will follow. State polls now using Dem +9 samples will switch to Dem +0 samples. We are about to see a 1980's style surge to Romney if for no other reason that we have abandoned the bullshit sampling.

Relax people, work hard on GOTV but this is in the bag.

Posted by: Bill Mitchell at October 26, 2012 04:15 PM (hlUJY)

107 Romney is going after MN? The state that didn't even vote for Reagan once? You'd think he'd have a better shot at Oregon or New Mexico than he would Minnesota

Posted by: chemjeff at October 26, 2012 04:15 PM (d/5qf)

108 We have been getting some Romney ads here in the TC during the news casts, but more on WI house races. Not many Thompson ads either.

Posted by: rd does not trust the MSM at October 26, 2012 04:15 PM (zLp5I)

109 108
178

Your fly is down.

Posted by: soothie at October 26, 2012 08:14 PM (vzLhi)

Guess I'm going to have to wait to see what the person at 178 says.....

Posted by: Tami at October 26, 2012 04:16 PM (X6akg)

110 http://tinyurl.com/9mhzu2j New ad for Mitt Romney targets shipbuilding in New Hampshire

Posted by: Evilpens at October 26, 2012 04:16 PM (ck76k)

111 "Central WI isn't reliably Republican at all. The key central counties of Wood, Portage & Marathon are always very tight races."

Wood and Marathon went huge for Walker and they'll go big for Romney also. Portage was the only county of the ten central Wisconsin county's I covered in the Walker recall that didn't favor Walker.

Posted by: lowandslow at October 26, 2012 04:16 PM (GZitp)

112 This has to be why the big buys in eastern Minnesota... a two-fer in hitting a tightening Minnesota, and getting media into western Wisconsin, which needs to be targeted

Posted by: Bill from Chappaqua at October 26, 2012 04:16 PM (MAhUT)

113 Romney is going after MN? The state that didn't even vote for Reagan once? You'd think he'd have a better shot at Oregon or New Mexico than he would Minnesota

Posted by: chemjeff at October 26, 2012 08:15 PM (d/5qf)

Unlike Gore, Mondale actually carried his home state, and DC. He did not get anything else though.

Posted by: rd does not trust the MSM at October 26, 2012 04:16 PM (zLp5I)

114 Is it just me or is Greg trying extremely hard to get himself banned from here? Like....he knows it's lost and wants an excuse for not manning up on election night, LOL.

Posted by: AussieMarcus at October 26, 2012 04:17 PM (RstsB)

115 @115 Winner, winner, chicken dinner!

MN is a two-fer, yah, you betcha!

Posted by: trumpetdaddy at October 26, 2012 04:17 PM (dcoFe)

116 D.M. Hawkins @HawkinsUSA In Cuyahoga (Big Dem) they are only at 62% where they finished in 2008 returned ballots. In Warren (Big R stronghold) they are at 80% D.M. Hawkins @HawkinsUSA In Franklin (Dem), at 53% where they finished in 08. But in Hamilton/Montgomery (swing districts) they are 60%+ with R requests up, Dem down

Posted by: Evilpens at October 26, 2012 04:18 PM (ck76k)

117 Greg was in here?

Posted by: CAC at October 26, 2012 04:18 PM (aWgIx)

118 You are about to see a Republican wave the likes of which we have not witnessed in 30 years. This will make 2010 look like an abject failure by comparison.

Read this and be inspired:

http://www.redstate.com/2012/10/26/why-i-think-obama-is-toast/

Posted by: Bill Mitchell at October 26, 2012 04:18 PM (hlUJY)

119 @120 Yes. Do you not see the stains he left on the carpet?

Posted by: TLGM at October 26, 2012 04:19 PM (appbn)

120 109 The polls have to become "less untruthful" as the election nears so that the pollsters don't discredit themselves.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at October 26, 2012 04:19 PM (SAA1o)

121 >>>Is it just me or is Greg trying extremely hard to get himself banned from here?

Gerg is banned. He is the man of a million IPs.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Regular! With Full Stomping Power! at October 26, 2012 04:19 PM (eMjRH)

122 Romney must have let loose the radio ads in Wisconsin in a big way today. Obama has one but was saturating the radio with it for the past two weeks but Romney was matching him ad for ad today.

Posted by: lowandslow at October 26, 2012 04:19 PM (GZitp)

123 A lot of the votes for Walker were votes against "Madison liberals" and how obnoxious people were, rather than FOR Walker. Wisconsin is weird - the same people will vote for Walker and then vote for Obama - just like the Bush/Feingold voters. Look at some of the election returns from 2000 and 2004 in central WI, they were crazy close.

Posted by: emily_argus at October 26, 2012 04:19 PM (cmvCu)

124 All trolls are Average Joe.

Posted by: toby928© at October 26, 2012 04:19 PM (QupBk)

125 "Even Rasmussen is still turning out polls with D +6 samples."

Bill, WHERE is that coming from? I've been asking all day.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 26, 2012 04:19 PM (dX4hn)

126 Winning requires honesty. This is a game changer that he is leaving on the table. It reeks. You have got to show who you are. This is a serious deal, to ignore it is to say you are a FUCKING PUSSY. You want that kind of shit in the oval office? Not much better than Barry. I will say again, disgusting. Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at October 26, 2012 07:35 PM (wR+pz) Billy Bob is a fucking TROLL people

Posted by: Max Power at October 26, 2012 04:20 PM (q177U)

127 "Greg was in here?"

Every freaking day, CAC. I went off on a profanity laced rant on him today.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 26, 2012 04:21 PM (dX4hn)

128 Every freaking day, CAC. I went off on a profanity laced rant on him today. YES!! Yes yo did

Posted by: Evilpens at October 26, 2012 04:23 PM (ck76k)

129 Billy Bob tries to act like "one of the gang" but as soon as anything negative comes out about Romney he piles on savagely and basically says Romney is no better than Obama. He's an out and out, paid by the minute professional troll.

Posted by: Max Power at October 26, 2012 04:24 PM (q177U)

130 Just occurred to me, I haven't had booze in over 2 weeks. I need to remedy that.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 26, 2012 04:24 PM (dX4hn)

131 "Look at some of the election returns from 2000 and 2004 in central WI, they were crazy close."

The economy in central WI isn't like 2000 and 2004. I guarantee Romney will win the same county's Walker did in the recall, the margin will be almost the same, maybe with the exception of Marathon.
I should add the top story driving in to work this morning on Wisconsin Radio News was Oshkosh Truck sending out notices to layoff 400 workers due to defense cuts, That ain't helping Obama.

Posted by: lowandslow at October 26, 2012 04:25 PM (GZitp)

132 @119. They rally in Marion is a great location because it pulls small city and rural people from Marion north to almost Sandusky, as well as Columbus suburbanites in Delaware County.

Obama really fucked up the GM thing for his vote in Montgomery County (metro Dayton) by screwing over the Delphi people. Obama knows he has a problem in the black community in Cincinnati, hence the visit next week and all the ads on black radio here in town. The rest of metro Cincinnati is heavily R.

Kasich may have muddied the water by including cops and firefighters in the pub employ bill but, on the whole the new R crew in C-Bus has been pretty good at taking away advantages for the Dems over the last 2 years. The re-districting involving Kaptur and the little freak from Cleveland was genius. The bad blood intra-party between Toledo and Cleveland Dems has been a thing of beauty.

Getting Schmidt defeated in the CD2 R primary was also a great thing. She was a serious ticket drag in a key R district and now she's gone.

Romney by at least 3.5% in Ohio.

Posted by: trumpetdaddy at October 26, 2012 04:25 PM (dcoFe)

133 Is this a different Billy Bob? Because the one I know paid a butt load to attend a Romney fundraiser.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 26, 2012 04:25 PM (dX4hn)

134 Dave In Fla !! I will remedy that for Myself, Buddy from High School & after is coming back from Maryland tonight, Tomorrow night will Be BEER & Lots of them

Posted by: Evilpens at October 26, 2012 04:26 PM (ck76k)

135 Intrade now 64-37 for Obama. Time to load up!

Posted by: Herbert Hymenhopper at October 26, 2012 04:27 PM (XoyFB)

136 Just a side note. Was that chart created on Windows 3.1, dot matrix compatable? Thats all I have.

Posted by: Up, up with people at October 26, 2012 04:28 PM (kzFo5)

137 Maryland is my home state.

I weep for what the Dems have done to it.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 26, 2012 04:28 PM (dX4hn)

138 Posted by: Herbert Hymenhopper at October 26, 2012 08:27 PM (XoyFB) SHE'S BAAAAAAAAAAAAAACCCK

Posted by: Evilpens at October 26, 2012 04:28 PM (ck76k)

139 So......Romney in a dunce hat pretty much indicates Obamas not even trying anymore, yeah?

Posted by: AussieMarcus at October 26, 2012 04:28 PM (RstsB)

140 Is this a different Billy Bob? Because the one I know paid a butt load to attend a Romney fundraiser. Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 26, 2012 08:25 PM (dX4hn) I quote: "It reeks. You have got to show who you are. This is a serious deal, to ignore it is to say you are a FUCKING PUSSY. You want that kind of shit in the oval office? Not much better than Barry." Does that sound like someone who attended a Romney fundraiser. Probably just bullshitting us.

Posted by: Max Power at October 26, 2012 04:29 PM (q177U)

141

I'm probably naive but ya know what gets me about all this. The fact that the future of my country depends on how many ads are run - or not run - or how many personal visits Romney and Ryan make to various states. Really? That's the difference bewteen saving the Republic or turning it over to a treasonous, lying, communist hack like Obama. Really?

Are there really people out there that shallow that they have to have Romney personally come and hold their hand before they'll decide to vote for him. Really?

Well fuck me then.

Posted by: LGoPs at October 26, 2012 04:29 PM (BJVEF)

142 WTF was Billy Bob ranting about? It appears the post itself was removed?

Posted by: Rich at October 26, 2012 04:29 PM (pnHKr)

143

Intrade now 64-37 for Obama. Time to load up!

____

Saw that earlier, and there were 300+ shares available at that price (3.70) with no one buying. Not a good sign.

Posted by: Up, up with people at October 26, 2012 04:29 PM (kzFo5)

144 146 It's in the previous thread.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at October 26, 2012 04:30 PM (SAA1o)

145 148 Exaggerate much?

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at October 26, 2012 04:31 PM (SAA1o)

146 So I expect Karl to start kicking some ass this week. Just think Romney and his allies still have over $200 million to spend... $20 million a DAY.

The wave.........http://tinyurl.com/dkozn5

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at October 26, 2012 04:32 PM (wR+pz)

147 Well, in my defense, greg's post was removed.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at October 26, 2012 04:32 PM (SAA1o)

148 But to sum it up, he was mostly trying to claim that he has a penis.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at October 26, 2012 04:33 PM (SAA1o)

149 (And I don't mean just the one in his mouth.)

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at October 26, 2012 04:34 PM (SAA1o)

150 "Romney is going after MN? The state that didn't even vote for Reagan once? You'd think he'd have a better shot at Oregon or New Mexico than he would Minnesota"

He's not going after Minnesota. The campaign is buying ad campaign to reach viewers in Western Wisconsin.

Posted by: Brian at October 26, 2012 04:34 PM (cynHT)

151 Posted by: Herbert Hymenhopper at October 26, 2012 08:27 PM (XoyFB) UMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM HELLO THIS BOY MOLESTER TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Posted by: Evilpens at October 26, 2012 04:35 PM (ck76k)

152 (Didn't come out right) - The campaign is buying ads to reach viewers in Western Wisconsin.

Posted by: Brian at October 26, 2012 04:35 PM (cynHT)

153 " Well, in my defense, greg's post was removed. Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at October 26, 2012 08:32 PM"

As they all are. Please do not respond to them.

Posted by: ChrisP at October 26, 2012 04:35 PM (84xB+)

154 As they all are. Please do not respond to them.

****

Automatic time-out for anyone engaging the troll!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 26, 2012 04:36 PM (piMMO)

155 Greg?

Never heard of him.

Posted by: Charlie Gibson at October 26, 2012 04:36 PM (wR+pz)

156 157 Very well. From now on, greg is your problem.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at October 26, 2012 04:36 PM (SAA1o)

157 Automatic time-out for anyone engaging the troll! Which one?

Posted by: toby928© at October 26, 2012 04:36 PM (QupBk)

158 TB3K lives!!!

Posted by: ChrisP at October 26, 2012 04:36 PM (84xB+)

159 Garrett Haake (@GarrettNBCNews) October 26, 2012 Posted by: Evilpens

Such a perfect name for an MSM reporter.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at October 26, 2012 04:37 PM (DKxu1)

160 Suck my big cock, wingnuts.

Posted by: Greg at October 26, 2012 08:36 PM (rpZo5)

Well, you never call any more, but sweety, that is no big cock.

Posted by: Barney at October 26, 2012 04:38 PM (wR+pz)

161 "The campaign is buying ads to reach viewers in Western Wisconsin."

The campaign said today they see MN as tied.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 26, 2012 04:38 PM (dX4hn)

162 Automatic time-out for anyone engaging the troll! Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse

I always thought there should be a penalty box for the HQ.

10 min for engaging a troll.
30 min for replying to comments with only a #
60 min for complaining about the post
EG "Why are you surprised/shocked...? Why are you posting this? Why aren't you posting about something I'm P/O'd about?"

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at October 26, 2012 04:40 PM (DKxu1)

163 Nood post...

Posted by: ChrisP at October 26, 2012 04:41 PM (84xB+)

164 I always thought there should be a penalty box for the HQ.

10 min for engaging a troll.
30 min for replying to comments with only a #
60 min for complaining about the post
EG "Why are you surprised/shocked...? Why are you posting this? Why aren't you posting about something I'm P/O'd about?"

****

Excellent ideas!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 26, 2012 04:42 PM (piMMO)

165 60 min for complaining about the post
EG "Why are you surprised/shocked...? Why are you posting this? Why aren't you posting about something I'm P/O'd about?"
Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 26, 2012 08:40 PM (DKxu1)

Heh. This offense accounts for about 17% of all daytime posts.

Posted by: Mætenloch at October 26, 2012 04:43 PM (pAlYe)

166 Deja vu

Posted by: BignJames at October 26, 2012 04:46 PM (rlFQ+)

167 139 Intrade now 64-37 for Obama. Time to load up!

Unfortunately US Citizens are not permitted to bet on POTUS. All the activity you see on Intrade for POTUS is foreigners. That's why the respond to every new poll no matter how bogus. They don't understand the whole bullshit sampling thing and they love Obama.

Posted by: Bill Mitchell at October 26, 2012 04:54 PM (hlUJY)

168 168 I always thought there should be a penalty box for the HQ. 10 min for engaging a troll. 30 min for replying to comments with only a # 60 min for complaining about the post EG "Why are you surprised/shocked...? Why are you posting this? Why aren't you posting about something I'm P/O'd about?" **** Excellent ideas! Agreed, but that would require a fairly sophisticated upgrade of the site's technology. I'd be happy with the ability to do normal HTML links without all that tinyurl nonsense. I'm usually not one to bitch and moan about the HQ's 1993-vintage software. What doesn't kill us makes us stronger, etc.

Posted by: rickl at October 26, 2012 04:57 PM (sdi6R)

169 30 min for replying to comments with only a # Hey, wait a second. That is the way I reply to comments. I get pissed off by those who refer to screen names and times, because I then have to go hunting for them. Comments that are referenced by number are much easier to find.

Posted by: rickl at October 26, 2012 05:01 PM (sdi6R)

170 Badger State....hmmm. Honey Badger CARES.

Posted by: maineconservative at October 26, 2012 05:10 PM (ADhFy)

171

I don't think Wisconsin is going for Romney. We haven't voted for a Republican President since 1984 and we've had plenty of GOP Governors & Senators in that time. Living in Madison...., Posted by: emily_argus at October 26, 2012 08:12 PM (cmvCu)

Well, there's your problem, emily :-) I live in a very liberal neighborhood in Milwaukee (although there are a surprising number of RR signs around here). If the recall had been up to my neighbors and Dane County, we'd be talking about Gov. Barrett today. When I visit my siblings in the 'burbs, I see far more R/R signs than Obama ones.

One thing that is definitely going to get North Shore Republicans out to the polls - due to redistricting, Gwen Moore might become their US representative. I'm used to idiots representing me in Congress, but the thought highly distresses many Whitefish Bay and Mequon residents.

Posted by: Donna V. at October 26, 2012 05:14 PM (7OHl8)

172 Sure does. Only seen 2 signs for Moore in all of WFB

Posted by: H Badger at October 26, 2012 05:20 PM (IMuzr)

173 Does it count as engaging the troll if I tell it I don't swing that way when it invites me to fellate it?

Posted by: Charlie Choadsmoker at October 26, 2012 05:21 PM (aHR5E)

174 Comments that are referenced by number are much easier to find.

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Not when troll droppings get nuked and throw the numbers off.

Posted by: mediumheadboy at October 26, 2012 05:22 PM (aHR5E)

175 Emily...cheer up. I too live in Madison. Here's the thing, my neighbors haven't put up Obama signs this year. They *always* had lefty political signs in the past.

There are Obama signs, sure, but I'd say less than half of what there were 4 years ago.

Also, remember, living in far-left madison, we're NOT going to get much republican advertising (it would be a waste of money). Just make sure you get yourself to the polls and vote. And take anyone you know that's going to vote for Romney with you. Try and convince the dem idiots that their votes are pointless...

Posted by: GMan at October 26, 2012 05:27 PM (UkbKS)

176

Total vote in Ohio 2008 5,773,777

29.7% voted ealy 1,714,812

60% of ealy Obama vote = 1,028,887

40% of early Romney vote = 685,925

Election day vote = 4,058,965

According to CNN Mitt 51% O 44%

Mitts election day vote = 2,070,072

Obama's election day vote = 1,785,945

Obama's total = 2,814,832

Miit's total = 2,755,997

Difference of 58,835 which is only about 1% with 202,948 election day votes up for grabs

Something is not right with the CNN poll

Posted by: RIKTHEDIK at October 26, 2012 05:27 PM (gQxm3)

177 I can't imagine Romney not making Wisconsin his #2 swing state behind Ohio. He freakin' put Ryan on the ticket, so that had to be part of his calculation. Ryan is going to want to win his home state.

So far, Romney has executed a nearly perfect campaign, my guess is the big push is just now coming online for Wisconsin.

If Gallup is close to right on the popular vote, Romney has several paths besides Ohio. And I'm not an Eeyore, but I don't trust Ohio to always do the right thing. There needs to be a Plan B, and Wisconsin if anything is almost more likely to flip to Romney since Obama has not tainted the water supply there yet with $100 million in campaign spending.

Posted by: Jeepers at October 26, 2012 05:27 PM (XDRsa)

178 Comments that are referenced by number are much easier to find.

****

The numbers are great, when they accompany the text of the comment itself.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 26, 2012 05:35 PM (piMMO)

179 Oh, there's not half as many Obama signs as in 2008, there's like 1/20th as many Obama signs, even in my ultra-liberal, votes 95% (not exaggerating) ward in Madison. That said, these people aren't voting for Romney. Judging from conversations and Facebook analysis, the Obama campaign has been successful in convincing liberal voters that Romney is the worst man in the history of the world, so I'm pretty sure turnout is still going to be ridiculously high.

Posted by: emily_argus at October 26, 2012 05:59 PM (cmvCu)

180 "Something is not right with the CNN poll"

Here's what's not right. It's totally bogus in the extreme to assume only one party is voting early.
So Obama leads by double digits in those who voted while Romney leads by double digits of those who WILL vote? If that doesnt smell like a turd, I dont know what does.

What I really think is happening is that some Obama supporters may be lying about having voted early. That's the only way to make the demographics and numbers balance out. Why do that? If Obama campaign is bugging people about voting, it could be they are saying that to get the callers off their backs. Just speculation.

Posted by: Harry P Ness Reid at October 26, 2012 06:57 PM (WhCZZ)

181 wisconsonites need to be less pussyified

Posted by: coldwarrior at October 26, 2012 06:57 PM (fpL1+)

182 Well here in the Fox Cities (I'm in Neenah) , I can comfortably say that an informal yard sign survey would have Romney up 2:1. Oshkosh is probably different (which is why Biden was there today). My guess is he didn't mention what defense cuts were doing to Oshkosh Truck. The Fox Valley is traditionally Repub, but my mother in law in Waukesha says that the place is on fire for Romney. I'm surprised that Paul Ryan doesn't simply camp out in Wisconsin until election day and say in his distinctive Cheesehead accent "Why would you vote for a Bears fan?" As for me, I signed up for the ORCA program in the AOSHQ sidebar and I suggest that everyone else does too. Don't let your fellow Americans hang out to dry like Obama did to our boys in Benghazi. Volunteer.

Posted by: xuyee at October 26, 2012 07:23 PM (/QiO2)

183

I need someone to translate CAC into english.

Not just now, but usually.

Posted by: petunia at October 27, 2012 12:14 PM (DAcBA)

184 A big chunk of that Western Wisconsin population actually works in and around St. Paul MN. On work days that I-94 corridor is jammed with commuters heading west in the morning and back east that evening. It's a conservative stronghold, but all the media outlets (TV, radio) are in MN. Tommy Thompson is from that area (Elroy WI).

Not coincidentally, that "North Metro" area north and east of St. Paul is (or was) Michelle Bachmann's district.

In 2000 and 2004 George W. Bush missed taking Wisconsin by 10-12K votes out of 2.5MIL cast. Obama's big win in 2008 had less to do with him than with independents disgust with McCain. (I voted for him but it wasn't easy.)

The margin of victory in Wisconsin will come from Paul Ryan's 1st District where he routinely takes 65% of the vote, roughly 20% of the Dem/Independent vote.

Posted by: WildWillyC at October 27, 2012 12:56 PM (TtdmW)

185 Here are the results of an unscientific survey taken on a thousand mile road trip from Minneapolis through cental Wisconsin three weeknds ago.This trip included the cities of Sheboygan, Milwaukee, and Madison. The basis of my survey was campaign signs observed while driving. Outside of three cities mentioned above, it is clear that Romney-Ryan have the market. The exception to this was an area of complete wilderness near Baraboo, in which the sparse population seemed to mostly support the Democratic Ticket. (The map labeled this area "There be Dragons".) The interesting thing about the fore-mentioned cities was not the absence of Romney-Ryan signs, but rather the lower than expected (my expectation) number of Obama-Biden signs. I have always pictured these cities as blue-collar / university hardcore Democrat. They may still vote that way, but with a lot less enthusiasm than in the past. I readily admit that my analysis may be colored by my expectation of what a hardcore, left-leaning area looks like, as I live in the heart of Congressman Keith Ellison's district in Minneapolis.

Posted by: Mondocognito at October 27, 2012 04:48 PM (mX3V3)

186 123

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