November 21, 2012
— Ace From @benk84's headlines, an "earth-shaking" discovery?
The Mars Science Laboratory team has hinted that they might have some big news to share soon. But like good scientists, they are waiting until they verify their results before saying anything definitive. In an interview on NPR today, MSL Principal Investigator John Grotzinger said a recent soil sample test in the SAM instrument (Sample Analysis at Mars) shows something ‘earthshaking.’“This data is gonna be one for the history books,” he said. “It’s looking really good.”
What could it be?
SAM is designed to investigate the chemical and isotopic composition of the Martian atmosphere and soil. In particular, SAM is looking for organic molecules, which is important in the search for life on Mars. Life as we know it cannot exist without organic molecules; however, they can exist without life.
It should be noted they usually mean "this will shake your world if you are a scientist who's very much up on current theory and can appreciate small bits of evidence about that, and not so much if you're a layman."
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Posted by: Mystery Meat at November 21, 2012 08:25 AM (kyzl0)
Posted by: Tesh at November 21, 2012 08:25 AM (cnjni)
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Posted by: RioBravo at November 21, 2012 08:27 AM (eEfYn)
It discovered a cat. But then it killed it.
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Posted by: rickb223 Let It Burn at November 21, 2012 12:09 PM (GFM2b)
Posted by: Daybrother at November 21, 2012 12:09 PM (+paCV)
Posted by: rdbrewer at November 21, 2012 12:10 PM (Iyg03)
Posted by: Stu-22 at November 21, 2012 12:11 PM (k4bdL)
Posted by: uterus cannon at November 21, 2012 12:11 PM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 21, 2012 12:11 PM (QupBk)
If you've ever met a geologist or astrologist, you know some pretty minor stuff gives these guys erections that can shatter diamonds.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at November 21, 2012 12:11 PM (uhAkr)
Actually, they've already found water on Mars near the poles, IIRC. That was Phoenix's gig.
Posted by: Jishin at November 21, 2012 12:11 PM (uk04h)
Posted by: @PurpAv at November 21, 2012 12:12 PM (xCa48)
Posted by: Daybrother at November 21, 2012 12:12 PM (+paCV)
Posted by: Soona at November 21, 2012 12:12 PM (78QmA)
Posted by: Vic at November 21, 2012 12:12 PM (YdQQY)
Posted by: rdbrewer at November 21, 2012 12:12 PM (Iyg03)
Posted by: Dr. Varno at November 21, 2012 12:13 PM (5Hk3U)
Posted by: Vic at November 21, 2012 12:13 PM (YdQQY)
Posted by: Mars is racist at November 21, 2012 12:13 PM (Kflw4)
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Posted by: rickl at November 21, 2012 12:13 PM (zoehZ)
Posted by: @PurpAv at November 21, 2012 12:14 PM (xCa48)
Posted by: NC Ref at November 21, 2012 12:14 PM (kf5SK)
Posted by: Dr. Varno at November 21, 2012 12:14 PM (5Hk3U)
there I said it
Out of the closet he comes. Is the sure knowledge that we will look down upon you forevermore worth finally not hiding who you truly are and living in fear that you will be outed? Only time will tell.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at November 21, 2012 12:15 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: @PurpAv at November 21, 2012 12:15 PM (xCa48)
Posted by: Daybrother at November 21, 2012 12:15 PM (+paCV)
Just like nearly every other time.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at November 21, 2012 12:15 PM (SY2Kh)
I've got a great idea for a novelty home game like twister!!
Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at November 21, 2012 12:16 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: Daybrother at November 21, 2012 12:16 PM (+paCV)
Posted by: Walkers! at November 21, 2012 12:16 PM (TYO2p)
Posted by: velcro pants at November 21, 2012 12:17 PM (Kflw4)
Posted by: Inspector Asshole at November 21, 2012 12:17 PM (IOSGZ)
Posted by: tasker at November 21, 2012 12:17 PM (r2PLg)
My bumper sticker got there before I did? Sheesh -- TANJ!
Posted by: Empire1 at November 21, 2012 12:18 PM (sglxW)
Posted by: @PurpAv at November 21, 2012 12:18 PM (xCa48)
The next great gold rush would pave the way for space travel, just like it did the railroads years ago.
Posted by: rdbrewer at November 21, 2012 12:18 PM (Iyg03)
Lets hope not since then the AGW cultists will start using the death of life on mars to beat us over the head.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at November 21, 2012 12:18 PM (tf9Ne)
Posted by: Daybrother at November 21, 2012 12:18 PM (+paCV)
Posted by: Walkers! at November 21, 2012 12:19 PM (TYO2p)
Some tests were positive. Others were negative.
I have no reason to doubt that there might have been life on Mars a billion years ago.
Posted by: Bart at November 21, 2012 12:19 PM (V70Uh)
Posted by: rickb223 Let It Burn at November 21, 2012 12:20 PM (GFM2b)
Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 21, 2012 12:20 PM (QupBk)
That mountain range it landed next to? It's gone.
Posted by: Soona at November 21, 2012 12:20 PM (78QmA)
Posted by: uterus cannon at November 21, 2012 12:20 PM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: Walkers! at November 21, 2012 04:19 PM (TYO2p)
My God, it's full of assholes!
Posted by: Dave Bowman at November 21, 2012 12:21 PM (QKKT0)
Posted by: BATRATSPIDER! at November 21, 2012 12:21 PM (vS9+W)
I think they found my ex-wife's last orgasm.
Posted by: Soona at November 21, 2012 12:21 PM (78QmA)
Some tests were positive. Others were negative.
???
That's like doing any multi level test. All negatives does not conclusively prove no, but one positive is a very strong indication of yes.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at November 21, 2012 12:22 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 21, 2012 12:23 PM (QKKT0)
Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at November 21, 2012 12:23 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Coming not nearly soon enough. at November 21, 2012 12:23 PM (VtjlW)
Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at November 21, 2012 12:23 PM (0q2P7)
there I said it
Posted by: Soothsayer
I think you mean 'Precinct 13 IN SPACE!'
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at November 21, 2012 12:23 PM (ON54M)
Posted by: Soona at November 21, 2012 12:24 PM (78QmA)
Posted by: Vic at November 21, 2012 12:24 PM (YdQQY)
Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at November 21, 2012 12:24 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 21, 2012 12:25 PM (QKKT0)
Posted by: Dr. Varno at November 21, 2012 12:25 PM (5Hk3U)
It would be cool if they analyzed it further and concluded that the object was, in fact, artificial and synthetic - but that it didn't come from the lander or any of its systems.
Posted by: angler at November 21, 2012 12:25 PM (SwjAj)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at November 21, 2012 12:26 PM (pnnFm)
Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at November 21, 2012 12:26 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 21, 2012 12:26 PM (QKKT0)
I'm pretty sure microbe type life is pervasive anywhere in the universe where the raw materials exist for it to happen. A billion years or so gives a lot of random throws of the dice.
Posted by: @PurpAv at November 21, 2012 12:27 PM (xCa48)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 21, 2012 12:27 PM (QKKT0)
"Piedmont city officials have fired a police officer who wrote a public urination citation to the mother of a 3-year-old who dropped his pants in the family's front yard."
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at November 21, 2012 12:27 PM (ON54M)
Posted by: Malkovich at November 21, 2012 12:28 PM (3ZtZW)
Dood. Now you're just talking crazy shit.,
Posted by: @PurpAv at November 21, 2012 12:28 PM (xCa48)
Eh. I call BS. They keep saying they've found something and what they find keeps turning out to be nothing. Now, where's Snoopy to tell me how my evil snake-handling, Bible thumping religion keeps me from believing in science?
Posted by: katya the designated driver at November 21, 2012 12:29 PM (DoZD+)
Posted by: Cicero
.........
Aww, c'mon. We all know that doesn't exist.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 21, 2012 12:29 PM (f9c2L)
Conclusive evidence.
Everything in the universe is Bush's fault.
Posted by: YIKES! at November 21, 2012 12:29 PM (1PE/J)
Posted by: boulder hobo at November 21, 2012 12:29 PM (zec/x)
Posted by: Max Power at November 21, 2012 12:29 PM (q177U)
The positive could have been as simple as the presence of Carbon.
Don't be jumping to any conclusions here.
My favorite: Jimmy Hoffa in Al Capone's Vault.
Posted by: Geraldo Rivera at November 21, 2012 12:29 PM (V70Uh)
Posted by: Elizabeth Warren at November 21, 2012 12:30 PM (QKKT0)
Same with when they found those ethane lakes around Titan's north pole.
Not a big step from ethane to ethanol. Titan could be a major provider of moonshine.
Posted by: @PurpAv at November 21, 2012 12:31 PM (xCa48)
Posted by: Media Created GOP Dark Hooded Figures at November 21, 2012 12:31 PM (+paCV)
Posted by: BlackOrchid-StillMissingDagny at November 21, 2012 12:32 PM (J6kXj)
Posted by: dfbaskwill at November 21, 2012 12:32 PM (ndlFj)
Jimmy Hoffa?
Posted by: YIKES! at November 21, 2012 12:33 PM (1PE/J)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 21, 2012 12:35 PM (QKKT0)
Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at November 21, 2012 12:35 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: Dr. Varno at November 21, 2012 12:36 PM (5Hk3U)
Posted by: BlackOrchid-StillMissingDagny at November 21, 2012 04:32 PM (J6kXj)
One of the brothers at age four went out to play on the front porch once wearing a pair of boots and nothing else. I think he was out there for quite awhile before my Mom noticed what he was doing...
Posted by: Grey Fox at November 21, 2012 12:36 PM (LQjA9)
Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 21, 2012 12:37 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: Rex Harrison's Hat at November 21, 2012 12:38 PM (4136b)
Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at November 21, 2012 12:39 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: phoenixgirl headed somewhere west at November 21, 2012 12:39 PM (JV8wA)
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at November 21, 2012 12:39 PM (wR+pz)
Posted by: andycanuck at November 21, 2012 12:39 PM (nkiQM)
Posted by: Max Power at November 21, 2012 12:40 PM (q177U)
Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at November 21, 2012 12:40 PM (iFl7N)
Posted by: jimi ray at November 21, 2012 12:40 PM (79EF9)
And the other times, they mean, "This will blow your little Jesus-y mind because it means the odds of life existing on other planets have increased from made-up-value-X to made-up-value-X-point-oh-oh-oh-three."
And no mind is blown.
But it's added to the list of factoids that "prove" that the reason you're terrified of Science is because your little Jesus-y mind can't handle all this constant blowing.
And so you have to forgive my student loans.
Posted by: oblig. at November 21, 2012 12:40 PM (cePv8)
Posted by: Craig Poe at November 21, 2012 12:41 PM (BVkEs)
It is Earth shaking.
http://flic.kr/p/dv9qYt
Posted by: Rex Harrison's Hat at November 21, 2012 04:38 PM (4136b)
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Ace should be damned to hell forever for posting that picture.
Posted by: Soona at November 21, 2012 12:41 PM (78QmA)
Posted by: chemjeff at November 21, 2012 12:41 PM (d/5qf)
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at November 21, 2012 12:42 PM (wR+pz)
Posted by: Craig Poe at November 21, 2012 04:41 PM (BVkEs)
Then we must take this opportunity explore further.
Posted by: YIKES! at November 21, 2012 12:44 PM (1PE/J)
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Posted by: president o'bumbles at November 21, 2012 12:45 PM (nkiQM)
Posted by: jimi ray at November 21, 2012 12:49 PM (79EF9)
Posted by: Resist We Much at November 21, 2012 12:50 PM (y5bPZ)
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Posted by: Dante at November 21, 2012 12:54 PM (aLg9U)
Posted by: Jehu at November 21, 2012 12:57 PM (cSD32)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at November 21, 2012 12:57 PM (lOmbq)
Posted by: laughing at neck braces at November 21, 2012 01:00 PM (nVqtU)
Posted by: jimi ray at November 21, 2012 01:00 PM (79EF9)
Posted by: Inspector Asshole at November 21, 2012 01:01 PM (IOSGZ)
I believe the current theory is that it was a gigantic meteor, and its landing site is the current Gulf of Mexico.
Posted by: Jishin at November 21, 2012 01:03 PM (uk04h)
Posted by: jimi ray at November 21, 2012 01:05 PM (79EF9)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 21, 2012 01:07 PM (QKKT0)
Posted by: jimi ray at November 21, 2012 01:09 PM (79EF9)
Posted by: Inspector Asshole at November 21, 2012 01:10 PM (IOSGZ)
Posted by: T-DUBYAH-D at November 21, 2012 01:11 PM (WX65W)
Posted by: jimi ray at November 21, 2012 01:11 PM (79EF9)
Curiosity message: "Shit just got real - huge black monolith asking am I from planet with beautiful rings and immortal mermaid life-forms it created, or from planet #3 it used as waste dump which may require re-sanitizing."
Posted by: sherlock at November 21, 2012 01:12 PM (U+goV)
Posted by: jimi ray at November 21, 2012 01:17 PM (79EF9)
Posted by: Baldy at November 21, 2012 01:19 PM (opS9C)
Posted by: Inspector Asshole at November 21, 2012 01:22 PM (IOSGZ)
Posted by: jimi ray at November 21, 2012 01:30 PM (79EF9)
Posted by: DAve at November 21, 2012 01:37 PM (XDC0v)
Posted by: MoeRon at November 21, 2012 01:44 PM (yWDpP)
Posted by: eman at November 21, 2012 01:49 PM (bWwMZ)
Posted by: eman at November 21, 2012 01:50 PM (bWwMZ)
Posted by: eman at November 21, 2012 01:55 PM (bWwMZ)
Mars' orbit is fairly eccentric, so the notion that it is the body that crashed into the proto-earth to form the moon sounds possible. But then Mars would originally have been larger than it is. Still, the large north-south asymmetry of Mars points to something big having happened. But I think they would need more than a single sample to draw this conclusion.
It's probably something organic. Methane, by the way, is organic. It opens up the possibility of Mars cows.
Posted by: Agnes Day at November 21, 2012 03:05 PM (0OudH)
Posted by: Burnt Toast at November 21, 2012 03:34 PM (JtyGg)
Posted by: eman at November 21, 2012 03:35 PM (bWwMZ)
Posted by: laughing at neck braces at November 21, 2012 03:36 PM (nVqtU)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 21, 2012 03:37 PM (7N4Vf)
Posted by: rimi jay at November 21, 2012 03:40 PM (nkiQM)
Posted by: laughing at neck braces at November 21, 2012 03:44 PM (nVqtU)
From NASA Deputy Associate Administrator for Communications Bob Jacobs (@bnjacobs) via Twitter:
There's out of control parroting regarding Mars Curiosity. The "one for the history books" refers to the mission, not any one new discovery.
/thread
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 21, 2012 04:28 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Professor D.U. Fus, Nobel Laureate in Scientific Stuff at November 21, 2012 04:33 PM (HL/PU)
Posted by: H. G. Wells at November 21, 2012 04:37 PM (HL/PU)
EPIC FAIL
This one? Its probably a confirmation of the 70's Viking probe's finding of organic material on mars.. yeah, at the time they were 100% sure they found it then too. Either that or they've got the go-ahead for that Islamic outreach mission. Nobody will be earth shaken. If they found life, it would have leaked out immediately. Everyone wants to be the first to find alien life
Posted by: At the end of my rope at November 21, 2012 04:39 PM (YAGzS)
Posted by: laughing at neck braces at November 21, 2012 04:45 PM (nVqtU)
Posted by: Sam M'Fin' Shephard at November 21, 2012 05:25 PM (IQYEh)
Posted by: boulder hobo at November 21, 2012 08:00 PM (e0fQD)
Posted by: JT at November 21, 2012 11:35 PM (4Uj6e)
Laughing - you really think that the fact we haven't found life somewhere else in the universe (yet) is "proof" that there is none? Do you think we've kinda looked everywhere, like looking for your keys for twenty minutes in a large house?
And thinking there might after be, all this time, makes NASA scientists "morons"?
just, wow. I bet you were one who was REALLY surpirsed on election day.
Posted by: JT at November 21, 2012 11:41 PM (4Uj6e)
Posted by: Bad Science at November 22, 2012 01:09 PM (31kIq)
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