March 15, 2012
— CAC A lot of bloviating from lefties lately about an Obama "landslide". Some, when polls were more favorable, from conservatives about a Republican one. But what would one look like, exactly? Are the "mega-landslide" elections of 1964, 1972, 1980, 1984, and 1988 even possible at this point?
The short answer is no. In the past, states like New York, Texas, and California played the role of "big prize" purple states. So if a President or a candidate played their cards right, scoring a 400-500 electoral vote tsunami was very possible. There is only one state these days with more than 20 electoral votes that plays the cheating girlfriend, and that is that dirty skank we call Florida. Smaller states hold more sway in national elections these days, and the big states have fallen on one side of the ideological divide or the other.
Don't believe me? Well let's look at the absolute minimum states President Obama and his Republican challenger will carry:
Map courtesy 270towin.com
Simple math shows the 400+ electoral vote bloodbaths are exceptionally hard to achieve. While scoring a bruising victory in the high 300s is easily doable (happening in 3 of the last 5 elections), the awe-inspiring bone-crushing victories of yesteryear just aren't possible anymore.
Lets be very realistic- even these maps are the absolute extreme. Nobody expects the Republican to lose Georgia or Arizona, nor for the President to lose Massachusetts. I had to really, really, really inhale a lot of ether to close in on, and still fall votes short of, 400. Try it yourself, keeping in mind the mindset of the voters in these hard-red and hard-blue states.
So when someone comments matter-of-factly with "oh so-and-so will be lucky to carry 5 states", remember what your pretend expert here at AoS is telling you. It is difficult to predict even semi-landslides months out even when there seems to be a serious rebound for an incumbant or momentum for a challenger. Take this Harris Poll released in January of 1980, which showed a 65%-31% landslide preference...for Jimmy Carter.
Unless of course election night comes and the Republican wins 48 states, in which case I will quietly edit this post and replace it with very questionable images.
After I win the Powerball and Mega Millions the week before and have to file a restraining order against Christina Hendricks for constantly throwing herself naked against my front door. That will be a very busy hypothetical.
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Posted by: Frankly at March 15, 2012 02:04 PM (UuBcm)
Posted by: steevy at March 15, 2012 02:23 PM (7W3wI)
Posted by: Bill D. Cat at March 15, 2012 02:24 PM (npr0X)
Posted by: Cicero at March 15, 2012 02:25 PM (QKKT0)
Posted by: robtr at March 15, 2012 02:25 PM (MtwBb)
Posted by: steevy at March 15, 2012 02:26 PM (7W3wI)
Posted by: meggie mac at March 15, 2012 02:27 PM (Ho2rs)
You're being ridiculous, CAC, as is everyone who keeps trotting out that same poll over and over again.
Perhaps you remember an event that began in late 1979 that gave Carter a big (but temporary) "rally around the flag" bump in the polls? Anything ring a bell?
Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 15, 2012 02:28 PM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: Karl Rove, Electoral Genius at March 15, 2012 02:28 PM (QKKT0)
Posted by: meggie mac at March 15, 2012 06:27 PM (Ho2rs)
No my child I have retired. I can no longer ban anything.
Posted by: Jospeh Ratzinger, private citizen at March 15, 2012 02:29 PM (jm/9g)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 15, 2012 06:28 PM (SY2Kh)
Funny you bring that up. Because the poll released by the same firm when that happened gave Reagan a 50-45 lead over Carter as a result of it.
Posted by: CAC at March 15, 2012 02:30 PM (DZrU+)
Posted by: willow at March 15, 2012 02:30 PM (TomZ9)
Posted by: USNA1985 at March 15, 2012 02:31 PM (U3TDy)
Posted by: mama winger at March 15, 2012 02:32 PM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: nickless at March 15, 2012 02:34 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at March 15, 2012 02:34 PM (kFnmp)
Posted by: huerfano at March 15, 2012 02:36 PM (bAGA/)
Posted by: joeindc44 says come on, guys, no tough questions at March 15, 2012 02:36 PM (QxSug)
Posted by: Crazy Bald Guy at March 15, 2012 02:36 PM (2WvmU)
Do you think so, still? I've been wondering if the bloom is off that particular rose. I think that was a huge part of it in 2008. I'm not sure how much power that holds any more.
Posted by: mama winger at March 15, 2012 02:37 PM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: nickless at March 15, 2012 06:34 PM (MMC8r)
Hell, I would love that, and I'm behind enemy lines in the People's Republic - although with luck we'll have moved out by November.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 15, 2012 02:39 PM (7tPfr)
There's a lot of people out of work, and a lot of complaining about gas prices.
They're not blaming Bush for either of these, unless prompted.
Posted by: Dianna at March 15, 2012 02:39 PM (mKMj1)
Posted by: Hrothgar at March 15, 2012 02:40 PM (i3+c5)
I hope you're right. Unfortunately a lot of people think Obama is cool and hip. Pay no attention to the 4.00 dollar gas...
Posted by: the hobbit fomerly known as Donna at March 15, 2012 02:40 PM (ZHge+)
Something that gives me a little bit of hope, is the fact that quite a few 'O-states' lost some of their electoral votes....as a result of the 2010 census.
Illinois −1 Massachusetts −1 Michigan −1 New Jersey −1 New York −2 Pennsylvania −1
Posted by: wheatie at March 15, 2012 02:41 PM (Izn98)
Posted by: Greg at March 15, 2012 06:38 PM (J3Ovp)
The smartest thing you've said since you first shat-rocketed your way over here, and still wrong.
The belgian-style wheat beers are the best.
Posted by: CAC at March 15, 2012 02:41 PM (DZrU+)
25How about the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact? It would make me very happy indeed if the idiots in the states that passed that POS had to award their electoral votes to a repub.
I'll die of ecstasy if that happens, especially if their stupid decision is the difference that puts a Republican over the top. That Compact is proof positive that liberals are idiots.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 15, 2012 02:41 PM (7tPfr)
Give the lad a break. CAC wasn't born until the mid 80s. While some of us vividly remember the Iran hostage crisis, it is not top-of-mind for those who didn't live through it.
Now get off my lawn!
Posted by: Mayday at March 15, 2012 02:41 PM (orrLR)
R 306
D 232
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Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at March 15, 2012 02:42 PM (nEUpB)
Now get off my lawn!
Posted by: Mayday at March 15, 2012 06:41 PM (orrLR)
I was born March 16, 1985.
Unlike the lot of you, whose birth years still start off 18xx
Posted by: CAC at March 15, 2012 02:42 PM (DZrU+)
24 Three words: Four dollar gas.
And at the rate it's going up.....it could be Five dollar, Six dollar by November.
Posted by: wheatie at March 15, 2012 02:42 PM (Izn98)
Posted by: Cicero
If Meggie Mac goes to Guam her tits will make it tip over.
Posted by: mpfs, Under March Madness Spell at March 15, 2012 02:43 PM (iYbLN)
Unlike the lot of you, whose birth years still start off 18xx Posted by: CAC
Oh CAC, just blow me. (I know this is not possible)
Posted by: mpfs, Under March Madness Spell at March 15, 2012 02:43 PM (iYbLN)
I was born before man walked on the moon ... /Statler
Posted by: Meiczyslaw at March 15, 2012 02:44 PM (bjRNS)
Unlike the lot of you, whose birth years still start off 18xx
Posted by: CAC at March 15, 2012 06:42 PM (DZrU+)
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I bought my slippers that year, man they could really make slippers then. I am going to get a new pair next year though.
Posted by: robtr at March 15, 2012 02:44 PM (MtwBb)
Haven't we learned by now that many of the old paradigms on presidential elections are being thrown out this time around?
Posted by: Soona at March 15, 2012 02:44 PM (uGXx4)
Posted by: nickless at March 15, 2012 02:44 PM (MMC8r)
That's probably the smartest thing you've ever said. Not necessarily true, but at least arguably true depending on taste. I happen to adore Scotch Ale, but California Ales (Thank you Sierra Nevada for inventing California Ale Yeast and discovering Cascade Hopps) particularly the California IPA rank highly.
You can make a California Ale anywhere. Just buy a bottle of Sierra Nevada, start a yeast culture, buy some Cascade Hopps, maybe some Kent Goldings, a little Crystal 10, some Two Row Pale, and whammo!* California Ale.
*Whammo is actually the complex process of mashing, sparging, fermenting, and bottling/kegging.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose finally remembers why he's here at March 15, 2012 02:45 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: Meiczyslaw at March 15, 2012 02:45 PM (bjRNS)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 15, 2012 02:45 PM (Ho2rs)
Posted by: steevy at March 15, 2012 02:46 PM (7W3wI)
Posted by: Y-not at March 15, 2012 02:46 PM (5H6zj)
Unlike the lot of you, whose birth years still start off 18xx Posted by: CAC at March 15, 2012 06:42 PM
Oh gee. I have purses older than you.
Posted by: mama winger at March 15, 2012 02:47 PM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: nickless at March 15, 2012 06:44 PM (MMC8r)
There was a time before Space Age Love Song?
Posted by: CAC at March 15, 2012 02:47 PM (ivJTD)
Posted by: ontherocks at March 15, 2012 02:48 PM (ZJCDy)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at March 15, 2012 06:42 PM (nEUpB)"
Don't make me lock you up.
Posted by: Rick Santorum at March 15, 2012 02:48 PM (GZitp)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 15, 2012 02:48 PM (Ho2rs)
Posted by: MikeTheMoose finally remembers why he's here at March 15, 2012 02:48 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: Y-not at March 15, 2012 06:47 PM (5H6zj)
Also Nirvana, They Might Be Giants, and Butthole Surfers.
Posted by: CAC at March 15, 2012 02:48 PM (ivJTD)
Nobody invented me...bitch!
Posted by: Saccharomyces cerevisiae at March 15, 2012 02:48 PM (nEUpB)
Posted by: Bill D. Cat at March 15, 2012 02:49 PM (npr0X)
And at the rate it's going up.....it could be Five dollar, Six dollar by November.
Posted by: wheatie at March 15, 2012 06:42 PM (Izn9
That will break me.
Posted by: ErikW at March 15, 2012 02:50 PM (tH6HF)
Posted by: dagny who loved andrew at March 15, 2012 06:49 PM
Gee whiz girl, give me some warning. Choked on my spinach salad there.
Posted by: mama winger at March 15, 2012 02:50 PM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: CAC at March 15, 2012 02:50 PM (ivJTD)
Okay, that's enough for today, I think...
And I'll refrain from shilling for my blog one more time.
Wait. That didn't work...
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at March 15, 2012 02:50 PM (8y9MW)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 15, 2012 02:50 PM (Ho2rs)
Posted by: Conservative Crank voted for Perry, dammit at March 15, 2012 02:51 PM (1zwZo)
Posted by: Y-not at March 15, 2012 02:51 PM (5H6zj)
PA could still flip, especially if the voter ID law (which was signed by the guv yetsreday) is upheld. Philly is very upset by this law, they're throwing everything including the kithcen sink at it. Yes, the Philly reps are even saying the words "Jim Crow". And those Reagan Dem coal miners out in the sticks are vowing to not get fooled by Zero again.
I'd like to see some questionable images here starting now. I'm tired of looking at red/blue maps and idiotic documentary directors.
Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at March 15, 2012 02:52 PM (YmPwQ)
I bet if we had a Map of Voter Fraud.....and overlapped it with this one....that the states where the most fraud occurred in 2008, were also blue states which went to The One®.
Posted by: wheatie at March 15, 2012 02:53 PM (Izn98)
You need to start drinking better beer.
Sierra Nevada is a fine brewery, as is Anchor Steam, but they have fierce competition on the east coast. Troegs, Flying Fish, Smutty Nose, etc.
Come for a visit and you will taste what real beer is supposed to taste like.
Now go home and get your fucking shinebox.
Posted by: Saccharomyces cerevisiae at March 15, 2012 02:53 PM (nEUpB)
Posted by: Conservative Crank voted for Perry, dammit at March 15, 2012 02:53 PM (1zwZo)
Posted by: robtr at March 15, 2012 06:48 PM (MtwBb)
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Betcha' he doesn't know what paisley or searsucker is.
Posted by: Soona at March 15, 2012 02:53 PM (uGXx4)
Nobody invented me...bitch!
Posted by: Saccharomyces cerevisiae at March 15, 2012 06:48 PM (nEUpB)
Yeah, you and F*ing corn, delusions of grandeur. Without human manipulation all you are is something smelly that needs to be disinfected.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose finally remembers why he's here at March 15, 2012 02:53 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: dagny who loved andrew at March 15, 2012 02:53 PM (u50z0)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 15, 2012 02:53 PM (Ho2rs)
Now youngster, that is no way to treat the person who stood up for you!
However I will not exploit, for political purposes, your youth and inexperience.
Posted by: Mayday at March 15, 2012 02:54 PM (orrLR)
Posted by: Rick Santorum
Good thing I kept all the bra and panty pages from the 1970s Sears catalogs.
Posted by: Dang at March 15, 2012 02:54 PM (BbX1b)
Posted by: Y-not at March 15, 2012 02:54 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 15, 2012 02:55 PM (Ho2rs)
Posted by: Y-not at March 15, 2012 02:55 PM (5H6zj)
In a related, but completely anecdotal, corollary to this, last night my high school freshman son asked me if I thought the president would be reelected. I said no and wondered why he was asking. He said that everyone (at school) used to always talk about how cool Obama was but now half the people don't like him and the other half don't really care. Since my son and CAC are about the same age, I thought I would pass it along.
Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at March 15, 2012 02:55 PM (+lsX1)
Good thing I kept all the bra and panty pages from the 1970s Sears catalogs.
Fall 1982. Page 347. Upper left.
Epic.
Posted by: nickless at March 15, 2012 02:55 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: eastvalleyphx at March 15, 2012 02:56 PM (qiOph)
Posted by: Mayday at March 15, 2012 06:54 PM (orrLR)
Did Ken Burns nail it or was he off the mark?
I assume you'd have first hand knowledge of what I am alluding to.
Posted by: CAC at March 15, 2012 02:56 PM (ivJTD)
Fall 1982. Page 347. Upper left.
Epic.
Posted by: nickless
I keep that one in my wallet.
Posted by: Dang at March 15, 2012 02:56 PM (BbX1b)
Posted by: dagny who loved andrew at March 15, 2012 02:56 PM (u50z0)
Unlike the lot of you, whose birth years still start off 18xx
Posted by: CAC at March 15, 2012 06:42 PM
Oh gee. I have purses older than you.
Posted by:mama winger at March 15, 2012 06:47 PM (P6QsQ)
I have granny panties as old as he.
weeping .really. loudly.
Posted by: willow at March 15, 2012 02:56 PM (TomZ9)
Posted by: Jumbo Jogging Shrimp at March 15, 2012 02:57 PM (DGIjM)
Posted by: willow at March 15, 2012 02:58 PM (TomZ9)
Posted by: dagny who loved andrew at March 15, 2012 02:58 PM (u50z0)
Posted by: robtr at March 15, 2012 02:59 PM (MtwBb)
I'm not following...I was quoting the late, great Ronald Reagan, who blew away the detractors that tried to make is age an issue in 1980, with that one line in a debate. Epic takedown.
Posted by: Mayday at March 15, 2012 02:59 PM (orrLR)
Posted by: steevy at March 15, 2012 02:59 PM (7W3wI)
Posted by: Jumbo Jogging Shrimp at March 15, 2012 02:59 PM (DGIjM)
Posted by: joeindc44 says come on, guys, no tough questions at March 15, 2012 02:59 PM (QxSug)
You need to start drinking better beer.
Sierra Nevada is a fine brewery, as is Anchor Steam, but they have fierce competition on the east coast. Troegs, Flying Fish, Smutty Nose, etc.
Come for a visit and you will taste what real beer is supposed to taste like.
Now go home and get your fucking shinebox.
I was just thanking them for isolation of California Ale yeast. I could spout off brewery after brewery here in Cali. Stone, Lagunitas, Bear Republic, Russian River, Black Diamond.
I know the east coast, I lived on the east coast; You folks have a lot to learn about brewing ale. Lagers on the other hand. . .
Posted by: MikeTheMoose finally remembers why he's here at March 15, 2012 03:00 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: Mayday at March 15, 2012 06:59 PM (orrLR)
Actually he said that to Walter Mondale, to much laughter, in 1984.
So old you are mixing years. How much of that loan are you still paying back to Father Time?
Posted by: CAC at March 15, 2012 03:00 PM (ivJTD)
Posted by: Y-not at March 15, 2012 03:00 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 15, 2012 03:00 PM (Ho2rs)
Posted by: Mayday at March 15, 2012 06:59 PM
Funny as heck that was.
Posted by: mama winger at March 15, 2012 03:00 PM (P6QsQ)
Sorry to disappoint you, but this image is unquestionable!
http://is.gd/iPfwIt
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at March 15, 2012 03:00 PM (nEUpB)
Posted by: dagny who loved andrew at March 15, 2012 03:00 PM (u50z0)
Posted by: willow
That's what my mom called it. That and ruining the Sears catalog.
Posted by: Dang at March 15, 2012 03:00 PM (BbX1b)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 15, 2012 03:01 PM (Ho2rs)
Posted by: Jumbo Jogging Shrimp at March 15, 2012 06:57 PM (DGIjM)
O hell , now i think i know what my parents must have felt like.
Posted by: willow at March 15, 2012 03:01 PM (TomZ9)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 15, 2012 07:01 PM (Ho2rs)
I was thinking Sherrie's Berries.
They're stale enough.
Posted by: CAC at March 15, 2012 03:02 PM (ivJTD)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 15, 2012 03:02 PM (Ho2rs)
Posted by: Y-not at March 15, 2012 03:02 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Jumbo Jogging Shrimp at March 15, 2012 03:02 PM (DGIjM)
Posted by: mama winger at March 15, 2012 03:02 PM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: Bill D. Cat at March 15, 2012 03:03 PM (npr0X)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 15, 2012 03:04 PM (Ho2rs)
Posted by: Ronster at March 15, 2012 03:04 PM (T1nDt)
Posted by: dagny who loved andrew at March 15, 2012 03:05 PM (u50z0)
You poor deluded soul.
California was undoubtedly a leader in the resurgence of beer making...back before CAC was born. But they have been passed by many breweries all over the country.
Politics and industry isn't the only thing in California that is fading.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at March 15, 2012 03:05 PM (nEUpB)
Yeah, it was aimed at Mondale....Reagan's "will not hold his youthful inexperience against him" zinger.
And CAC.....just think, there are little thumbsuckers out there today, who will grow up and think that you're old and full of shit when you are in your 50's and 60's. .....They will also probably think that their generation is the 'smartest generation evah' too.
Heh.
Posted by: wheatie at March 15, 2012 03:05 PM (Izn98)
Posted by: Barry Obama at March 15, 2012 03:05 PM (bAGA/)
Woo-hooooo! Can I pick 'em or what? 7 out of 7 on my NCAA bracket!
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Which will make your eventual downfall the more excruciating.
Posted by: Soona at March 15, 2012 03:05 PM (uGXx4)
Posted by: Mitt Romney at March 15, 2012 03:06 PM (gre5a)
Posted by: GKChesterton at March 15, 2012 03:06 PM (e2csJ)
That's why God made vodka.
Posted by: mama winger at March 15, 2012 03:06 PM (P6QsQ)
I hope I get to see some of the VCU game tonight.
Barkley, GTFO.
Posted by: logprof at March 15, 2012 03:06 PM (ykSKg)
Posted by: Jumbo Jogging Shrimp at March 15, 2012 03:06 PM (DGIjM)
It was funny, and I remember when it happened, regardless of what year it was. I was too busy back then, working hard and playing hard and having a good time in my 20s. The 80s were a lot of fun. So, I'll excuse your bitterness, as it is sad your 20s decade is not as fun and carefree as mind was!
And, happy pre-birthday to you...
Posted by: Mayday at March 15, 2012 03:06 PM (orrLR)
my son wants to know why i'm laughing so loudly......omg that was funny Posted by: phoenixgirl
Best not tell him.
I'm just wingin' it here.
Posted by: Dang at March 15, 2012 03:07 PM (BbX1b)
Posted by: dagny who loved andrew at March 15, 2012 03:08 PM (u50z0)
Heh.
Posted by: wheatie at March 15, 2012 07:05 PM (Izn9
My nephew called me old when I tried to do the Dougie.
It hurt a little.
Posted by: CAC, alluding to the Glorious Rock of Wilshire Boulevard at March 15, 2012 03:08 PM (ivJTD)
http://www.michellesmirror.com/
Snark there, while more limited in scope, is every bit as vicious as that here.
Posted by: creeper at March 15, 2012 03:09 PM (gre5a)
Remember the music? It was actually good -- or at least better than the aneurism-inducing shit that CAC undoubtedly listens to.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at March 15, 2012 03:09 PM (nEUpB)
You know, something leaning forward like?
Posted by: Pecos, still yearning for Perry at March 15, 2012 03:10 PM (2Gb0y)
Posted by: dagny who loved andrew at March 15, 2012 03:10 PM (u50z0)
It hurt a little.
Just wait until people start calling you "sir." I hate to be called "ma'am" even though people use those terms out of respect.
Posted by: Mayday at March 15, 2012 03:12 PM (orrLR)
Posted by: Greg at March 15, 2012 06:38 PM (J3Ovp)
--Your beer expertise is as shitty as your political analysis.
Posted by: logprof at March 15, 2012 03:12 PM (ykSKg)
Posted by: Jumbo Jogging Shrimp at March 15, 2012 03:12 PM (DGIjM)
Posted by: Pecos, still yearning for Perry at March 15, 2012 03:14 PM (2Gb0y)
Posted by: Greg at March 15, 2012 06:38 PM (J3Ovp)
The smartest thing you've said since you first shat-rocketed your way over here, and still wrong.
The belgian-style wheat beers are the best.
Posted by: CAC at March 15, 2012 06:41 PM (DZrU+)
--I would not say they're the best (especially since I have not tasted anywhere near every kind of beer), but yeah, Fat Tire is a great beer.
Posted by: logprof at March 15, 2012 03:14 PM (ykSKg)
Posted by: Jumbo Jogging Shrimp at March 15, 2012 03:14 PM (DGIjM)
It hurt a little.
Just wait until people start calling you "sir." I hate to be called "ma'am" even though people use those terms out of respect.
Posted by: Mayday at March 15, 2012 07:12 PM (orrLR)
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Yup. A few(?) years ago when I thought I was making time with a cute little ginger, she called me "sir". I knew it was all over then.
Posted by: Soona at March 15, 2012 03:14 PM (uGXx4)
It hurt a little.
Posted by: CAC
Hurt a little? My ass is still killin' me!
Posted by: Dougie at March 15, 2012 03:15 PM (BbX1b)
Posted by: creeper at March 15, 2012 03:16 PM (gre5a)
About that "mood of the voters" thing....I predict the Bradley effect is back. The majority of voters are keeping quiet and and will quietly go to the polls and vote that stupid idiot out of office.
..._._._
Afterwards, liberals will say, "How did ________ win? I don't know anyone who voted for him!"
Posted by: Meremortal at March 15, 2012 03:17 PM (Usk3+)
Me too. I miss the days where political opponents could use clever humor to make a point. Everything has gotten so destructive.
And yes, CBD, I do miss the music. Went to some good concerts in the 70s. I am getting old though. Went to my first Jimmy Buffet concert in 1981, still love his music but don't like the concerts as much any more.
Posted by: Mayday at March 15, 2012 03:17 PM (orrLR)
The rise of the Khaki States!
Posted by: Lincolntf at March 15, 2012 06:32 PM (HethX)
I'm just waiting for CAC to substitute plaid for Khaki in the chart......
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 15, 2012 03:18 PM (XCHGh)
Posted by: Jumbo Jogging Shrimp at March 15, 2012 03:19 PM (DGIjM)
Posted by: Conservative Crank voted for Perry, dammit at March 15, 2012 03:20 PM (1zwZo)
Posted by: Minuteman at March 15, 2012 03:21 PM (acEq7)
I actually travel...often. Sorry I drink beer from every edge of the US and I am not buying the BS. I am always happy to get back home where I don't need to struggle to find an ale on tap. California has over 200 breweries, the only states even close to that are Oregon, Washington,
More breweries than MN, NH, VT, MA, RI, CT, NY combined for you lovers of the New England brew, for you southerners more than the whole southern eastern seaboard.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose finally remembers why he's here at March 15, 2012 03:21 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: Jumbo Jogging Shrimp at March 15, 2012 07:19 PM (DGIjM)
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Agree on Colorado. Sigh...Western slope would like to secede.
Posted by: Meremortal at March 15, 2012 03:22 PM (Usk3+)
Posted by: MikeTheMoose finally remembers why he's here at March 15, 2012 03:23 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at March 15, 2012 06:55 PM (+lsX1)
--Your son was born in 1985 and is still in high school???
Posted by: logprof at March 15, 2012 03:24 PM (ykSKg)
Posted by: Ronster at March 15, 2012 03:24 PM (T1nDt)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 15, 2012 03:24 PM (r4wIV)
I'm in Texas! Dallasite here. The kids I'm around mainly call me "Aunt Mayday" which I don't mind.
Last night I came out of a store though, and a man and his daughter (who I first thought was his wife, until he mentioned his wife at home, but I digress) needed a jump. He called me "ma'am." I'm not even that old!
Posted by: Mayday at March 15, 2012 03:25 PM (orrLR)
Posted by: Ronster at March 15, 2012 07:24 PM (T1nDt
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True, but an island on the Front Range, no?
Posted by: Meremortal at March 15, 2012 03:27 PM (Usk3+)
I'm tired of your sass.
Step outside.
Just let me finish my beer.
Seriously, I think that CA has been passed in quality, but of course not quantity. It's the most populous state in the union; of course it's going to have the most breweries.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at March 15, 2012 03:29 PM (nEUpB)
Posted by: Pecos, still yearning for Perry at March 15, 2012 03:30 PM (2Gb0y)
Posted by: Meremortal at March 15, 2012 07:27 PM (Usk3+)
Yes. And the way Colorado Springs is going (part of El Paso County) we in the Eastern part may be losing ground.
Posted by: Ronster at March 15, 2012 03:31 PM (T1nDt)
also, Romney is going to beat Hussein like a drum---like a drum, baby
Posted by: the Prospect of Whitby at March 15, 2012 03:32 PM (Dll6b)
Posted by: Meremortal at March 15, 2012 03:33 PM (Usk3+)
Posted by: Ronster at March 15, 2012 07:31 PM (T1nDt)
...-.-.-
Yep, much prefer the Western Slope these days. Good luck down there in the flatlands. I do enjoy my visits to the Denver area as they involve rock and roll and bars.
Posted by: Meremortal at March 15, 2012 03:36 PM (Usk3+)
Posted by: Pecos, still yearning for Perry at March 15, 2012 03:37 PM (2Gb0y)
A 'landslide' against Soetoro would provide him w/ endorsement opportunities! Barry could spend decades as another asshole dem ala Clinton.
Posted by: Barry's Drunk Dad at March 15, 2012 03:39 PM (c3mby)
I'll try to remember that next time somebody calls me ma'am! : )
Posted by: Mayday at March 15, 2012 03:39 PM (orrLR)
Definitely! I think we have driven everyone from the other 49 away from this thread though...
Posted by: Mayday at March 15, 2012 03:41 PM (orrLR)
I'm headed to my local brewery after work. Yeah I'll try and remember that while I'm looking at their World Beer Cup trophies.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose finally remembers why he's here at March 15, 2012 03:42 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: awkward davies at March 15, 2012 03:47 PM (Jp1VY)
"Afterwards, liberals will say, "How did ________ win? I don't know anyone who voted for him!"
^^^^ This!
Posted by: bosk at March 15, 2012 03:53 PM (n2K+4)
Posted by: CoolCzech at March 15, 2012 04:00 PM (niZvt)
152 Just wait until people start calling you "sir."
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Pfft. I was called "sir" by the cashier at the grocery the very first time I went in college.
#FML
Posted by: Anachronda at March 15, 2012 04:10 PM (NmR1a)
Yeah, well -- nobody thought a Republican could lose Indiana, yet here we are.
In a related story, Mitt Romney has just won the Skull Island caucus.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 15, 2012 04:37 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Dave in Fla at March 15, 2012 05:28 PM (Why44)
Ace mentions the January 1980 Harris poll showing Carter above 60%...
I will never forget a political cartoon I saw sometime in early 1992 showing a race track with a massive hopped-up & ready-to-roll dragster named "Bush" and a tiny little matchbox car of a dragster sitting haplessly in the next lane named "Dems", above a caption that said "1992 Presidential Race."
Anything is possible and everything should be expected this year. Heck Ive thought for over a year that we're probably headed for a Florida Part 2: the Wrath of ACORN if Obama loses, with results challenged and litigated in three or four states on accusations of voting rights discrimination. Dems will not accept a vote result that doesnt end in an Obama win especially if Republicans sweep Congress back.
I sure hope it doesnt happen that way for obvious reasons, but I see the political madness meter going to 11 this year. We're in for an historic series of events this year-domestic and foreign-for good or bad. Buckle up.
Accordingly, Dems are going to freak out defending Obama. The Repubs should employ campaigning techniques using the Dems urgent panicked energy against them.
The more they scream and yell at you at a rally this summer or while youre signature gathering, the more you stand firm & dont take the bait. They want to provoke you to take a swing at them. Dont do it. Defend yourself if assaulted but its the Dems and the lefties who will initiate the violence this year.
Most likely the actual violence I think will come at the GOP convention. Occutots vs Cops. And the media will be only too happy to cover the tales of woe if Sunshine or Tempest get pushed off a Tampa sidewalk by a storm-trooping cop or tea party extremist.
Still. Gotta stay calm. When they try to vote with dead people and cartoon characters, be there to challenge it with a polite resolute smile, but dont ever back down because you have rights same as anyone else.
If every time they come lunging at you-we-us with another media drill like the Sandra of Arc saga, a great mass of informed people should just step aside as the train passes, refute the idiocy in detail, then stand up when the backlash comes. Do this every time and eventually, they will tire out and go away.
Posted by: MikeD at March 15, 2012 05:38 PM (p8QOg)
I think it's time that someone again pointed out the glory that is the Electoral College. This wonderful system, thought up by the Founders, ensures that whoever "wins" the presidential election cannot be questioned. With the current "winner take all" formulas used by most states, even narrow victories in individual States almost always translate into Electoral College mandates.
Imagine a system with a national popular vote. Every vote in every prestinct in every State could be a "game changer". Candidates would concentrate on "running up the vote" in places where they ran strong. Even in 2000, the election was only contested in a few counties in one State. When it came time to count the Electoral College votes, there was a clear winner, not a standoff.
Absolutely wonderful & fantastic!
Posted by: Michael K. at March 15, 2012 05:40 PM (Gx+Vn)
Posted by: #OccupyResoluteDesk at March 15, 2012 07:18 PM (+nCNS)
Posted by: T.J. at March 16, 2012 12:52 AM (j3kxS)
Wheatie @ 85-
You have an interesting idea in the fraud map thing. Fraud is a way of life in blue states. Welfare, government contracts, elections, take your pick.
Posted by: EROWMER at March 16, 2012 04:41 AM (sIm3i)
file a restraining order against Christina Hendricks for constantly throwing herself naked against my front door
Deer Christina:
My door is always open for you. Please knock first. Of course, I live in Skankachussetts (aka, Florida).
Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie © at March 16, 2012 04:53 AM (1hM1d)
Posted by: Phelps at March 16, 2012 07:28 AM (bwElp)
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