November 09, 2012

When Did Obama Know About Petraeus' Affair?
— Ace

Did he know about it months ago, which seems likely?

Did he tell Petraeus to resign after the election?

If Petraeus had to resign because he was compromised, he was compromised months ago.

Did Obama leave a compromised head of the CIA in place to avoid some difficult politics?

Petraeus' testimony about this -- not the affair, but Obama's knowledge of it and offers to resign -- is now required.

Posted by: Ace at 03:58 PM | Comments (443)
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1 Precious bodily fluids are at stake

Posted by: wooga at November 09, 2012 03:59 PM (vjyZP)

2 Let it burn.

Posted by: Ferb Fletcher at November 09, 2012 03:59 PM (hyP1j)

3 I had a scary realization today: Obama's not their Reagan. He's their *Nixon.*

Posted by: Knemon at November 09, 2012 04:00 PM (+PvMS)

4 I know Fox is on this, but since I swore off all other networks, I don't even know if they are asking such questions.  I know the ones you asked were asked by the Fox panel on the Baier News Hour. 

Posted by: gm at November 09, 2012 04:00 PM (wgmUB)

5 Your comparison is not fair to Nixon, not at all.

Posted by: gm at November 09, 2012 04:00 PM (wgmUB)

6 I don't think Obama would need to be bothered with something this trivial.

Posted by: jwb7605 (Let It Burn) at November 09, 2012 04:00 PM (Qxe/p)

7 2 Let it burn.

Posted by: Ferb Fletcher at November 09, 2012 07:59 PM (hyP1j)


Seconded! 

Posted by: Todd W at November 09, 2012 04:01 PM (lrkg9)

8 Please don't get your hopes up over this. 



Just ridicule the fuck out of these people. 



It's the only thing they can't stand.



LIB

Posted by: Burn the Witch at November 09, 2012 04:02 PM (8JpQH)

9

Obama: It depends on what your definition of "know" is.

Posted by: Concern Troll at November 09, 2012 04:02 PM (4KOF2)

10 Is this going anywhere on twitter? seems like that and facebook or the only things that matter in this world now. Oh, wait The Daily Show.

Posted by: osu at November 09, 2012 04:02 PM (xR46S)

11 Petraeus' testimony about this -- not the affair, but Obama's knowledge of it and offers to resign -- is now required. Posted by: Ace at 07:58 PM Why? His voters wouldn't care. His voters reelected Jessie Jackson Jr back to office when he was being investigated for fraud and was in a mental hospital. His voters elected someone who lied about being native American for years. His voters didn't care about 16 trillion in national debt. His voters won't care.

Posted by: Mr. Pink at November 09, 2012 04:02 PM (++kZl)

12 To Whom It May Concern:

Stay away from Marcy Park.

Posted by: Craig Poe at November 09, 2012 04:02 PM (BVkEs)

13 You know the left would compare this to Bush holding off on Rumsfeld's resignation until after the elections.

They would make that comparison because they're mongoloids.

Posted by: The Q at November 09, 2012 04:03 PM (w4fEE)

14 Compromised? If Obama knew Petraeus was having an affair that would be a BONUS because it would give Obama a hold on the CIA director. If that's what happened, Petraeus screwed him by resigning when pressure was applied.

Posted by: Comrade Arthur at November 09, 2012 04:03 PM (eEev7)

15 The FBI investigation reportedly began last Spring, so its pretty impossible to imagine Obummer didn't know about it shortly afterwards.

Posted by: cool breeze at November 09, 2012 04:04 PM (A+/8k)

16 I wish Obama well, and Petaeus well too. He was right to withold this information from voters till after the election. Wouldn't want them to take their eyes off important things to worry about silly distractions like this. Important things like Big Bird. And Binders. And abortion.

Posted by: Mr. Pink at November 09, 2012 04:05 PM (++kZl)

17 I'm glad we kept Obama in President before this cam out.

Posted by: logprof at November 09, 2012 04:06 PM (jKE+Z)

18 Obama shed a tear, not for winning, but for having Petraeus, red meat, to throw to the MBM.

Posted by: sTevo at November 09, 2012 04:06 PM (VMcEw)

19 Required?? Did you not notice we're no longer living in America as we knew her? The Dictator will do as he pleases, with whom he pleases, and his whores in the media will present it in the best possible light.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor AfriCon American Lover at November 09, 2012 04:06 PM (2rMmy)

20 We live in a bad novel. The new Nixon is a Democrat. Who will hound him out of office?

Posted by: eman at November 09, 2012 04:06 PM (Oyrol)

21 Still, the White House, with concurrence by the FBI and Justice Department, held off on asking for Petraeus’ resignation until after the election. His resignation occurred three days after the election, avoiding the possibility that Obama’s ill-fated appointment of Petraeus could become an issue in the election. FBI agents on the case were aware that such a decision had been made to hold off on forcing him out until after the election and were outraged. “The decision was made to delay the resignation apparently to avoid potential embarrassment to the president before the election,” an FBI source says. “To leave him in such a sensitive position where he was vulnerable to potential blackmail for months compromised our security and is inexcusable.” Michael Kortan, the FBI’s assistant director for public affairs, said he had no comment. from the Newsmax article

Posted by: Thunderb at November 09, 2012 04:06 PM (Dnbau)

22 Pics or it didn't happen.

Posted by: Anthony Wiener at November 09, 2012 04:06 PM (QX1B1)

23 Do you think the administration feels under pressure at all to answer a single damn question for the next 4 years?

They will never answer another difficult question again.

Ever.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at November 09, 2012 04:06 PM (SX6wc)

24 so is he on record as not willing to testify?

Posted by: W.H. Doubter at November 09, 2012 04:07 PM (Td9D+)

25 "Just ridicule the fuck out of these people. " Classic Alinsky strategy. Ask Palin and especially Dan Quayle how well it works. Too bad the Republicans get "gentlemen" like Romney and McCain to speak for them. Gingrich, on the other hand, is a master at it.

Posted by: HarryNoFilibustersReed at November 09, 2012 04:07 PM (LXKJo)

26 20 I wonder who is gonna get blamed for Benghazi Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at November 09, 2012 08:05 PM (OWjjx) If I had a guess John Boner. He will cry and accept responsibility, all without being asked. And he will then say the only thing to do now is enact amnesty for illegals and raise taxes. Because somehow he is a Republican.

Posted by: Mr. Pink at November 09, 2012 04:07 PM (++kZl)

27 "I wonder who is gonna get blamed for Benghazi"



DING DING DING, we have a winner!

Posted by: Burn the Witch at November 09, 2012 04:07 PM (8JpQH)

28 I've been tuned out since Tuesday. Is anyone outside of Fox even talking about this or is it still just the usual?

Posted by: mugiwara at November 09, 2012 04:07 PM (JxXAE)

29 The Great Obama(pbuh) knows all. And he "knows" Ali, if you get my drift. Live from Arab Spring Heights

Posted by: mohamed abdul muhommed mohumad at November 09, 2012 04:08 PM (/A1Rb)

30 I think Petraeus purposely put in his letter the phrase "when I had been married 37 years, I had an affair" (paraphrasing), because he's now been married 38 yrs. I think that was his way of saying that the affair happened over a year ago, so that people could figure out that this didn't just happen and the FBI and president have known about this for awhile. They waited and used the information as leverage. If it compromised security, they should have fired him immediately.

Posted by: Lara at November 09, 2012 04:08 PM (TgSwQ)

31 I can't get over the suspicion that if Romney had released the lawyers instead of conceding this thing might have turned out differently. Even if not, FFS, it's becoming clear that there was so much fraud in play that it's almost an injustice not to take action on it at the most opportune time.

Posted by: D. R. Ainbough at November 09, 2012 04:08 PM (BgIBZ)

32 Does it really matter if he knew, seriously. TFG is teflon. Black Democratium; he'll get away with whatever he wants to get away with. Who's going to call TFG on anything at this point. It's going to have to be a Democrat that brings him down, because a Republican won't be able to do it; bad optics you know.

Posted by: stourma at November 09, 2012 04:09 PM (Xf0bG)

33 #36: forget it, Jake. It's Chi-town.

Posted by: HarryNoFilibustersReed at November 09, 2012 04:09 PM (LXKJo)

34 so is he on record as not willing to testify? Posted by: W.H. Doubter at November 09, 2012 08:07 PM (Td9D+) Brett Baeir reported tonight that he did want to testify and STILL wants to testify

Posted by: Thunderb at November 09, 2012 04:10 PM (Dnbau)

35 We were gonna get right on this, but then realized... what if Democrats or media say bad things about us?

Posted by: The Mega Independent at November 09, 2012 04:10 PM (6JMZR)

36 Indeed: when did he know? Certainly before yesterday.

We thought Hillary was going to take the fall, but it will be the Lothario General of bad decisions due to being testosteroned out on prostate cancer medication.

I also hope someone asks Paula Poundstone why they were under the desk. When read that story I thought of George Castanza's bed under his desk while working for the NY Yankees.

This is so bizarre.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, raving lunatic about Benghazi at November 09, 2012 04:10 PM (baL2B)

37 "They will never answer another difficult question again."



This presumes they would be asked a difficult  question.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at November 09, 2012 04:10 PM (8JpQH)

38 Helicopters fall from sky all da time in Russia. Comrades just duck from debris and have another shot of vodka.

Posted by: Ugly Russian Skeptic at November 09, 2012 04:10 PM (QX1B1)

39 I wonder who is gonna get blamed for Benghazi Why should anyone be blamed for it? Seriously: the media won't require anyone's head on a silver platter or anything. The administration can just pretend it never happened.

Posted by: rfichoke at November 09, 2012 04:10 PM (bDAf2)

40 I still think the Republicans should've gone full moron and nominated Gingrich. Yeah, he would have lost, but he'd have inflicted some damage along the way.

Posted by: HarryNoFilibustersReed at November 09, 2012 04:11 PM (LXKJo)

41 Can't wait for the Leftys to punish the businesses who held off firings until after the election on Obama's order. Either way, they get punished. Now they caved, get punished anyway, and as a bonus get called traitors by the entire Lefty online world. Should have followed the law.

Posted by: Beagle at November 09, 2012 04:11 PM (sOtz/)

42 "Brett Baeir reported tonight that he did want to testify and STILL wants to testify" oh, i was confused because ace posted some article claiming he wasn't going to testify

Posted by: W.H. Doubter at November 09, 2012 04:11 PM (Td9D+)

43 " Certainly before yesterday." Hell, the resignation was dated LAST WEEK.

Posted by: HarryNoFilibustersReed at November 09, 2012 04:11 PM (LXKJo)

44 That was supposed to be "The GOP". Nevermind.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at November 09, 2012 04:11 PM (6JMZR)

45 Regardless. Of. Her. Ability. To. Pay.

Posted by: Rob McNeece at November 09, 2012 04:11 PM (EzOzr)

46 Obama could walk out tomorrow and state unequivocally that he knew of Petraeus' affair a year ago and nothing would happen.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at November 09, 2012 04:12 PM (SX6wc)

47 I wouldn't touch this with Bill's dick.

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at November 09, 2012 04:12 PM (QX1B1)

48 Helicopters fall from sky all da time in Russia.

Not my fault. My engine software hasn't been released for flight yet.

Posted by: HeatherRadish getting wasted on pudding shots at November 09, 2012 04:12 PM (hO8IJ)

49 Obama's scandals aren't just "drip drip" anymore. They're a freaking deluge.

Posted by: Craig Poe at November 09, 2012 04:12 PM (BVkEs)

50 I'm pretty sure that the FBI informed someone close to the president that his CIA head may have compromised himself.

Posted by: Ronster at November 09, 2012 04:12 PM (nQMHQ)

51 43 This presumes they would be asked a difficult question. Posted by: Burn the Witch at November 09, 2012 08:10 PM (8JpQH) Yeah, not unless they go on Univision.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 09, 2012 04:12 PM (GEICT)

52 Jake Tapper is reporting that Obama was told about the affair and FBI investigation on Wednesday.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at November 09, 2012 04:13 PM (X9Mnx)

53 Hell, the resignation was dated LAST WEEK.

Posted by: HarryNoFilibustersReed at November 09, 2012 08:11 PM (LXKJo)


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It was??  I did not know that. 



Posted by: mama winger, stranger in a strange land at November 09, 2012 04:13 PM (P6QsQ)

54 I also hope someone asks Paula Poundstone why they were under the desk.

LOL.  And why she wears those suspenders. And why she so goddamned unfunny.

Posted by: wooga at November 09, 2012 04:13 PM (vjyZP)

55 Read the NewsMax article about when the affair became known: http://tinyurl.com/b8347vd During the Clinton years NewsMax was pretty solid, but I stopped reading it a few years ago because it started to sound more like WorldNut Daily. This article, however, sounds pretty credible.

Posted by: Ed Anger at November 09, 2012 04:13 PM (tOkJB)

56 It's over guys. Wormer dropped the big one.

Posted by: Mr. Pink at November 09, 2012 04:14 PM (++kZl)

57 Required by who? No one is required to do anything. Obama won. The republicans will never win again. Get over it. Let it burn.

Posted by: That's right at November 09, 2012 04:14 PM (99/WE)

58 Jake Tapper is reporting that Obama was told about the affair and FBI investigation on Wednesday.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at November 09, 2012 08:13 PM (X9Mnx)


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Of course he was. 


Why would the President know anything about what the CIA or the FBI were up to for months apparently, until Wednesday?

Posted by: mama winger, stranger in a strange land at November 09, 2012 04:14 PM (P6QsQ)

59 You know, if some enterprising young journalist dug deep and got to the bottom of all this—Benghazi, the voting errors, the post election moves by the white house—they could really make a name for themselves. Like, Woodward level name for themselves. But of course that implies they believe the current administration has Nixonian skeletons to uncover, AND would mean they would be putting their career ahead of the party line. Which none of them would do. Maybe once the economy tanks and they are kicked out of their bread box new york or dc apartments they will, but I still sincerely doubt it.

Posted by: LizLem at November 09, 2012 04:14 PM (ijXVY)

60 I was on the ground in half the time that it took incompetent Bush in response to Federal hurricane disaster preparation checklist procedures.  Benghazi -- a bump in the road.

B plus.

Posted by: bHO, FEMA-in-Chief at November 09, 2012 04:14 PM (rzTDZ)

61 OT; I've been thinking about this and after reading all the "we should have done this, or that," the thing that pisses me off the most about the election; it shouldn't have mattered if Mitt was a true conservative or not. IT SHOULDN'T HAVE MATTERED. I knew four fucking years ago I was going to vote for whoever the Republicans put up, because I knew how bad it was going to be. The whole thing about Republicans staying home because they couldn't get behind Mitt; FUCK THEM. Shouldn't have freaking mattered. Now as far as this whole Petraeus deal; won't matter.

Posted by: stourma at November 09, 2012 04:14 PM (Xf0bG)

62 Obama II - The Burning

Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at November 09, 2012 04:15 PM (zpqa2)

63

  Obama doesn't take questions any more... even from the MSM that loves him so.... he is above that.... you see, the media might slip up once in a while and actually ask a tough question- like what was begining to happen to Obamas press secretary.

 

  What a f*cking presser he had today.  A mob of cheering marxists loving them some class warfare.  What kind of "press" conference has a mob of cheering political hacks clapping at attacks on the successful in this country?  Wouldn't be supprised if all Obamas future "press" conferences were held at universities like all his campaign events were held.

 

  I predict many many more of this type of "press" conference.  No questions allowed....followed by a standard statement from Jay Carney- "the President is much too busy right now trying to get to the bottom of Bengahzi... He wants more than anyone, to find out what happened and to punish those responsible".... and yet Obama will still go on Letterman and other entertainment shows to swing away on the softballs that the Hollywood folk send his way...  

 

Unf*cking believable the way the media has rolled over under this marxist.

Posted by: Some Guy in Wisconsin at November 09, 2012 04:15 PM (tPHZQ)

64 Look, if we were gonna lose, we should have just nominated Empire of Jeff

Wacky thing is, if we had just run McCain/Palin again, they might have won this time around - they certainly would have pulled more votes.

Posted by: wooga, NOT a Palinista at November 09, 2012 04:15 PM (vjyZP)

65 President Obama, what is your daughter's favorite cereal?

Posted by: Tough Questioner at November 09, 2012 04:15 PM (6JMZR)

66 Jake Tapper is reporting that Obama was told about the affair and FBI investigation on Wednesday.

Sounds believable.

Posted by: Obama Voter at November 09, 2012 04:15 PM (ZAgiU)

67 Whoops, mama winger. My mistake. I was interpreting Friday as LAST Friday. I think I lost a day somewhere this week.

Posted by: HarryNoFilibustersReed at November 09, 2012 04:15 PM (LXKJo)

68 we should have just nominated Empire of Jeff.

We would have gotten the menstruating married women's vote, anyway.
(reference: http://ace.mu.nu/archives/334208.php)

Posted by: HeatherRadish getting wasted on pudding shots at November 09, 2012 04:15 PM (hO8IJ)

69 "Did he know about it months ago, which seems likely?" Almost certainly. "Did he tell Petraeus to resign after the election?" Almost certainly. "Did Obama leave a compromised head of the CIA in place to avoid some difficult politics?" Almost certainly.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 09, 2012 04:15 PM (uvzjj)

70 conspiracy theory at 11

Posted by: kevinw at November 09, 2012 04:15 PM (wrzBP)

71 47 "Brett Baeir reported tonight that he did want to testify and STILL wants to testify"

oh, i was confused because ace posted some article claiming he wasn't going to testify

Posted by: W.H. Doubter at November 09, 2012 08:11 PM (Td9D+)

The two are not mutually exclusive.
Apparently he wants to testify, and "White House Officials" don't want him to (not sure if Dianne Feinstein is a "White House Official" or not).


Posted by: jwb7605 (Let It Burn) at November 09, 2012 04:15 PM (Qxe/p)

72 Was she a moaner or a groaner?

Posted by: Captain "Trapper" John Francis Xavier MacIntyre M.D. at November 09, 2012 04:15 PM (QX1B1)

73 @ 68

" IT SHOULDN'T HAVE MATTERED."

Exactly.  We've tipped.

Tipped into burnage

Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at November 09, 2012 04:16 PM (zpqa2)

74 Helicopters fall from sky all da time in Russia. Comrades just duck from debris and have another shot of vodka. That really is their attitude. Look to the Russians for a primer on how to survive regimes like this. They know how it's done. You just have to laugh it off and enjoy—for the lack of a better word—the craziness of it all. Russians are very funny people when you get to know them.

Posted by: rfichoke at November 09, 2012 04:16 PM (bDAf2)

75 Posted by: kevinw at November 09, 2012 08:15 PM (wrzBP) Hypothesis.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 09, 2012 04:16 PM (uvzjj)

76 63 It's over guys.

Wormer dropped the big one.

What the hell are we supposed to do, ya moron?

Posted by: Stork at November 09, 2012 04:17 PM (vjyZP)

77 Whole milk or 2%?

Posted by: Tough Questioner at November 09, 2012 04:17 PM (6JMZR)

78 Unlikely voters 70-30 favor Dems. They will vote in larger numbers in every subsequent election. Where is the story about this? Because nothing about Betray Us makes a damn bit of difference. One party rule. Get used to it.

Posted by: That's right at November 09, 2012 04:18 PM (99/WE)

79 Press: Pitcher or catcher?

Posted by: stourma at November 09, 2012 04:18 PM (Xf0bG)

80 re: "I wonder who is gonna get blamed for Benghazi"

I've heard that Petraeus very insistently held that it was the guy who made that Muslim video that did it. And apparently he bought that propaganda line so deeply, he was spouting it at the same people who invented it.

Maybe he's come to his senses since then and has something to say. We'll never know.

If the not-quite-official story of how his affair became a matter of interest—that he was psycho-stalking a mannish ho who pump-and-dumped him—I think we'll never hear *anything* from him again.

The guy might be (or have become) full-spectrum crazy, and his *believing* the official spin on Benghazi might be what tipped the boys off to how crazy he is. So they hung him out with this ho biz before he could be insane at the congressional hearings and cause a problem.

I'm guessing. If I were making a movie out of the quasi-facts we have now, that's the movie.

Posted by: oblig. at November 09, 2012 04:18 PM (cePv8)

81 What about soy?

Posted by: Tough Questioner at November 09, 2012 04:18 PM (6JMZR)

82 Obama's knowledge of it and offers to resign -- is now required. Actually, it's not. By decree.

Posted by: Barky McFucknuts at November 09, 2012 04:18 PM (FcR7P)

83 Morons .. join us in the irc chat that we had on election night! #AOSHQ on irc.freenode.net !

Posted by: dantealiegri at November 09, 2012 04:18 PM (mHU03)

84 "84 Whole milk or 2%? Posted by: Tough Questioner at November 09, 2012 08:17 PM (6JMZR) " "Soy." faint

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 09, 2012 04:18 PM (uvzjj)

85 40 We were gonna get right on this, but then realized... what if Democrats or media say bad things about us?

Posted by: The Mega Independent at November 09, 2012 08:10 PM (6JMZR)

 

 

You knuckle dragging Benghazier!  Cower with shame, you mouth breathing, tin foil hat wearer.  

Posted by: Havedash at November 09, 2012 04:18 PM (ToMJU)

86 Footie pajamas or old timey night gown?

Posted by: Pullitzer Contender at November 09, 2012 04:18 PM (vjyZP)

87 "What kind of "press" conference has a mob of cheering political hacks clapping at attacks on the successful in this country?" Babyshit. Wait until they have to issue your speeches on multiple records because everybody is afraid to be the first one to stop applauding.

Posted by: JosephMuhfugginStalin at November 09, 2012 04:18 PM (LXKJo)

88 "86 Press: Pitcher or catcher? Posted by: stourma at November 09, 2012 08:18 PM (Xf0bG) " They alternate. It's more "equal" (and "diverse") that way.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 09, 2012 04:19 PM (uvzjj)

89 58 Jake Tapper is reporting that Obama was told about the affair and FBI investigation on Wednesday. Posted by: Hollowpoint at November 09, 2012 08:13 PM (X9Mnx) What did Holder know and when did he know it?

Posted by: Ed Anger at November 09, 2012 04:19 PM (tOkJB)

90 "I wonder who is gonna get blamed for Benghazi"

It's the second term - He doesn't even have to blame anyone anymore. Catch up.

Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at November 09, 2012 04:19 PM (zpqa2)

91 President Obama, what did you know about Captain Crunch going soggy in milk, and when did you know it?

Posted by: Tough Questioner at November 09, 2012 04:20 PM (6JMZR)

92 OT?  You decide.

Mike and the Mechanics - Silent Running.
http://youtu.be/0KL_fgWgK40

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 09, 2012 04:20 PM (xtS2H)

93 conspiracy theory at 11

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Paula is a Democrat mole. Mission Accomplished.

(((check her politics)))

Posted by: Helicopter Dude at November 09, 2012 04:20 PM (BVkEs)

94 "88 What about soy? Posted by: Tough Questioner at November 09, 2012 08:18 PM (6JMZR) "

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 09, 2012 04:20 PM (uvzjj)

95 86 Press: Pitcher or catcher?

69.

Posted by: Kal Penn at November 09, 2012 04:20 PM (vjyZP)

96 This could turn out to be an interesting story if we had a media that would be interested in pursuing it.

Another interesting story: FEMA running out of water in NY/NJ.  Or Long Island having to ask the military to take over power restoration efforts.

 But all that runs across the grain of The Narrative.  Instead, we'll hear all about how the Republicans are scuttling the economy.

Posted by: Hoi Polloi Wingnutia at November 09, 2012 04:20 PM (OPWiP)

97 I'll lure Gen. Petreasus to Fort Marcy Park.

Posted by: Hillary at November 09, 2012 04:20 PM (CdRSJ)

98 Wormer dropped the big one.

What? Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!

Posted by: HeatherRadish getting wasted on pudding shots at November 09, 2012 04:20 PM (hO8IJ)

99 Jake Tapper is reporting that Obama was told about the affair and FBI investigation on Wednesday. Posted by: Hollowpoint at November 09, 2012 08:13 PM (X9Mnx) I do not believe that. The FBI siad they have been investigating it since last spring. He is head of the CIA, no way they didn't tell him then

Posted by: Thunderb at November 09, 2012 04:21 PM (Dnbau)

100 >>Hell, the resignation was dated LAST WEEK.
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Coinciding with the Iranians firing on our drone in international air space.

Total media blackout.

Posted by: sTevo at November 09, 2012 04:21 PM (VMcEw)

101 Look who's all weweed up.

Posted by: Emperor SCoaMF at November 09, 2012 04:21 PM (NIZHJ)

102 I don't want to see a lot of bs about evangelicals sitting this out since in the sidebar I see that MORMONS didn't come out for their boy as much as GW BUSH.

Seems maybe they had some doubts about his "faith" along with his ideology too?

Coulter's trying to walk back her capitulation to "electability" and try to fit back into that "Conservative Spunky Gall" suit she's been living on for so long.

Good luck with that Ann. We saw and heard you're chubby chasing fecklessness and watched you cling with righteous indignance to an at best weak fiscal conservative who turned out to be a nice guy but maybe a little too nice and too fearful (again) of attacking a minority. (don't want to treat them as equals or something we might get a bad write up in the NYT and all our friends at the CC will look down their noses at us for being gauche)

Once again Obama gets a pass. Strangely enough he's never accomplished anything positive in his life with all the free passes he still is a loser. A "winning" loser but loser just the same. His claim to fame will always be that he was the first black elected President of the US(and if the economy goes the way it looks like it will, maybe the last).

John Boehner has to go. I just wrote my new republican Rep and told him this was the first order of business. Either that or try to get him in a high stakes poker game.

You have to give Harry "i'm not a toucher" Reid props for having the guts to stake out a hard position and stick to it. I guess some Mormon's can be tough.

Posted by: Jcw46 at November 09, 2012 04:21 PM (SP4jC)

103 Exactly. We've tipped. Tipped into burnage Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at November 09, 2012 08:16 PM (zpqa2) I enjoy the burning. I am not being dramatic or emotional, or whining anymore. I really do. I also will vote Democrat until Boner is not speaker anymore. I am not saying this to piss people off or be an asshole or do some fake sock puppet trollery joke like I do normally too. I really mean it. Please dont hold it against me guys. Ever since I heard the words "slept like a baby" from Boner's mouth, I really see why I should care.

Posted by: Mr. Pink at November 09, 2012 04:22 PM (++kZl)

104 Jake Tapper is reporting that Obama was told about the affair and FBI investigation on Wednesday. Mr. Sleep-On-It processed everything and accepted the resignation on Victory Day? He had time on his schedule for this? That sounds plausible.

Posted by: t-bird at November 09, 2012 04:22 PM (FcR7P)

105 Tissue or bidet?

Posted by: Soiledad Copper at November 09, 2012 04:22 PM (rzTDZ)

106 I read that unlikely voters were 70-30 Dem.

Non-voters 100-0 Dem.

Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at November 09, 2012 04:22 PM (zpqa2)

107 "104 This could turn out to be an interesting story if we had a media that would be interested in pursuing it. Another interesting story: FEMA running out of water in NY/NJ. Or Long Island having to ask the military to take over power restoration efforts. But all that runs across the grain of The Narrative. Instead, we'll hear all about how the Republicans are scuttling the economy. Posted by: Hoi Polloi Wingnutia at November 09, 2012 08:20 PM (OPWiP) " PROTECT THE NARRATIVE! PROTECT THE NARRATIVE!

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 09, 2012 04:22 PM (uvzjj)

108 84 "Whole milk or 2%?"

Whatever you choose, there's a lot of it in those tatas.

Posted by: Starchild David Petreaus at November 09, 2012 04:22 PM (w4fEE)

109 <<Petraeus' testimony about this -- not the affair, but Obama's knowledge of it and offers to resign -- is now required.>>

Yeah, so are explanations about the voter "irregularities" in Ohio and Florida, and the truth about Fast and Furious, and a whole list of other things that need accurate, truthful testimony...

...but I doubt we're going to get any of it.

Posted by: Sgt. York at November 09, 2012 04:22 PM (Snnay)

110 I fear speaking out against him now.

Posted by: Truman North at November 09, 2012 04:22 PM (YEdnb)

111 You know, if some enterprising young journalist dug deep and got to the bottom of all this—Benghazi, the voting errors, the post election moves by the white house—they could really make a name for themselves. 

Posted by: LizLem

Yeah, something like "John Doe #273" printed right on their toe tag in the county morgue.

Posted by: cool breeze at November 09, 2012 04:23 PM (A+/8k)

112 "106 Wormer dropped the big one. What? Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no! Posted by: HeatherRadish getting wasted on pudding shots at November 09, 2012 08:20 PM (hO8IJ) " It's not over till "Sweetie" sings.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 09, 2012 04:23 PM (uvzjj)

113 The question is phrased poorly. Obama does not "know" anything, from basic math to how to hire an attractive beard. He could not possibly have "known" about Gen Petraeus' affair, because he does not have the brain capacity to do so, nor does he acknowledge that any man could have an affair with one of those icky women.

Posted by: tcn at November 09, 2012 04:23 PM (VLG62)

114 "Why would the President know anything about what the CIA or the FBI were up to for months apparently, until Wednesday?"




There's a reason I didn't attend security briefings, wingnuts: Plausible Deniability




Yo' Val, shoot that excuse off to Media Matters for print Monday morning and have Axe get my clubs packed..  I've got a plane to catch.

Posted by: Brocko the Magnificent at November 09, 2012 04:23 PM (8JpQH)

115 >>Look who's all weweed up.
---

I don't know about you, but I am up for some weed.

This shit (current events) is just too real.

Posted by: sTevo at November 09, 2012 04:24 PM (VMcEw)

116 Mr. Pink me too & it's not being defeatist. It's hastening the inevitable. I want to live to see Liberty again, not limp along under D&R clowncircus productions

Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at November 09, 2012 04:24 PM (zpqa2)

117 Yeah, Petraeus had to know he would be shit canned and I believe that it would affect his ability to do his job.

Posted by: Walkers! at November 09, 2012 04:24 PM (YEG/L)

118 What the fuck happened to the AoSHQ I used to know? Where's the spirit? Where's the guts, huh?! This could be the greatest night of our lives, but you're gonna let it be the worst! "Ooh, we're afraid to go with you Radish, we might get in trouble." Well, just kiss my ass from now on! Not me! I'm not gonna take this! Wormer, he's a dead man! Marmalard, dead! Niedermeyer—

Posted by: HeatherRadish getting wasted on pudding shots at November 09, 2012 04:24 PM (hO8IJ)

119 Somebody must have already said this, so I apologize for the repetition if that is the case.

This whole thing would make a great movie.  It's got all the basic elements:  SEX, 5-star General as head of the CIA, lots of lies from the gubamint, cover-up, SEX, dead bodies, and, yeah, SEX.

Posted by: L, just L at November 09, 2012 04:24 PM (0PiQ4)

120

Election is over, none of this shit matters.  The people have such short memories that they are swayed by a last minute tropical system.

 

With the Donks controlling the Senate and a blackout by the press, anything can happen and probably will.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at November 09, 2012 04:24 PM (l3vZN)

121 Intelligence Briefings. How do they work?

Posted by: Emperor SCoaMF at November 09, 2012 04:24 PM (NIZHJ)

122 "I still think the Republicans should've gone full moron and nominated Gingrich. Yeah, he would have lost, but he'd have inflicted some damage along the way."

Gingrich would have refused to participate in those rigged circuses which pass for "debates". He would have insisted on Lincoln-Douglas style with no moderator. (Can you _imagine_ Barky having to speak without notes for 90 minutes?)

And if Barky wouldn't show up, Gingrich would have snappily debated the empty podium. Would have been a pile of fun.

I don't think Gingrich is electable. His zipper trouble and Pelosi commercial and random rants about colonizing the moon say that he's not. But since we now know that the guy who didn't do any of that stuff wasn't electable either, for different reasons, hell, if we had it all to do over, why not?

And, Gingrich would have scored some points with the pro-amnesty bunch.

Posted by: torquewrench at November 09, 2012 04:24 PM (ymG7s)

123 General Petraeus, did you order the Code Red? Did you order the Code Red?
 
Too bad. Here's a set of steak knives.
 
Ya know, I really figured Panetta would be the fall guy on this. He's already taken a good chunk of the blame, and the Pentagon has tightened their story line up so they aren't at fault.

Posted by: GnuBreed at November 09, 2012 04:25 PM (ccXZP)

124 His testimony, if he indeed testifies, is tainted because of this. Rightly or wrongly. Un-fucking-real...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 09, 2012 04:25 PM (XkWWK)

125 I fear speaking out against him now. This camps still have to be built and they will be union contracts. We've got years.

Posted by: t-bird at November 09, 2012 04:25 PM (FcR7P)

126 84 Whole milk or 2%? Posted by: Tough Questioner at November 09, 2012 08:17 PM (6JMZR) You making me laugh.

Posted by: osu at November 09, 2012 04:25 PM (xR46S)

127 Seriously. Holder had to know about this and its political ramifications. Apparently he chose to ignore it until after the election. This may be the ultimate reason Holder bugs out of D.C.

Posted by: Ed Anger at November 09, 2012 04:25 PM (tOkJB)

128 ace, here's an idea for you: Launch  a Blue Voters United website to capture the 60,000,000, with the express purpose of calling the president, the senators, and the congressmen on an  'as needed' basis.

or something like that.....

Posted by: Craig Poe at November 09, 2012 04:26 PM (BVkEs)

129 Shhhhh.... my stories are coming on.

Posted by: The GOP at November 09, 2012 04:26 PM (6JMZR)

130 "118 I fear speaking out against him now. Posted by: Truman North at November 09, 2012 08:22 PM (YEdnb) " Fuck Obama. Up the ass. With a spatula. And an arugula in the mouth.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 09, 2012 04:26 PM (uvzjj)

131 130 Posted by: torquewrench at November 09, 2012 08:24 PM (ymG7s) Careful what you wish for. 1095 days to election season 2016.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 09, 2012 04:26 PM (XkWWK)

132 I'm starting to feel a little sober so I'm makin a run to Costco. BRB

Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at November 09, 2012 04:27 PM (zpqa2)

133 Did I say Blue? I meant RED. (((freaking moron)))

Posted by: Craig Poe at November 09, 2012 04:27 PM (BVkEs)

134 My first idea was the femme fatale must be a GOP plant; a honey trap; a provocateur. But then, I remembered that the GOP is just too STUPID to pull that off. They couldn't even get out the Mormon vote. The Mormon vote ... think about that.

Posted by: VADM (Red) Cuthbert Collingwood (Mentioned in Dispatches) at November 09, 2012 04:27 PM (p4U6S)

135 Fuck Obama. Up the ass. With a spatula. And an arugula in the mouth.

As long as there is room for the pineapple, it's all good

Posted by: chemjeff at November 09, 2012 04:27 PM (5p18q)

136 I want to draft Dennis Miller for president in 2016. Seriously. I want him to take these people on.

I am ready to go full crazy. My lethargy of two days seems to be lifting.

This is the most insane and corrupt bunch of people in the history of the universe. And they know 1/2 of the American people are stupid and not paying attention. I am ready to start the Million Moron march on DC.

No one questions the timing in the stupid media...and they accept this stupid answers without investigative reporting? This question is rhetorical.

In addition to when Barky knew about this, when did the FBI know? Prior to their three hour "investigation" in Benghazi three weeks after the murders of four Americans? You know, when they still left important papers behind, like they left four Americans.

Any bets on who is next to get thrown under bus? Think hard, morons. Hillary is in Outer Mongolia dancing with wolves or Huma. The CIA director is now deemed a bad decision maker due to testosterone. Where is the old Clapper guy in all this mess? Who is head of the Counterroism agency that was not called on 9/11/12? Where is the sacrificial Charlene Lamb? Patrick Kennedy? They are all tainted, all pointing fingers, all in this mess. They watched four Americans die. All needlessly, and, five days before hearing this happens? What a coincidence! It is uncanny, isn't it?

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, raving lunatic about Benghazi at November 09, 2012 04:27 PM (baL2B)

137 President Motherfucker hasn't been touched by Benghazi, and there's no reason to think he will be in the future. Best we all get used to the workings of the Prog machine.

Posted by: Scobface at November 09, 2012 04:27 PM (IoNBC)

138 @Mr. Pink: I'm with you on that. If we're not going to go full hog and put up a Conservative that "people can get behind," fuck-it. Let the Dems have at it. Bring the fucker down already. Let's stop going half measures on this shit and let them have it. Am I fucking dejected by this election; you bet your ass I am. I have lost complete faith in the American public to do the right thing. I don't hate Obama; hell, I don't hate anybody. I just don't fucking like his politics and what he's done to this country. If people don't see this; fuck-it. LET IT BURN already.

Posted by: stourma at November 09, 2012 04:28 PM (Xf0bG)

139 I had a scary realization today:

Obama's not their Reagan.

He's their *Nixon.*

Unfortunately he's the Nixon from "Watchmen".

Posted by: Wikipedia Brown at November 09, 2012 04:28 PM (HtUdo)

140 PSA: It's Friday night, do you know where your country is? Burning down apparently.

Posted by: Mr. Pink at November 09, 2012 04:28 PM (++kZl)

141 "127 Somebody must have already said this, so I apologize for the repetition if that is the case. This whole thing would make a great movie. It's got all the basic elements: SEX, 5-star General as head of the CIA, lots of lies from the gubamint, cover-up, SEX, dead bodies, and, yeah, SEX. Posted by: L, just L at November 09, 2012 08:24 PM (0PiQ4) " Yes. But how does that help the Narrative?

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 09, 2012 04:28 PM (uvzjj)

142 I live in a blue state, and of the dozen or so highly educated liberal wizards of Smart I know, not one of them is even vaguely aware of Benghazi. They only know that some kind of attack happened there. There is no scandal. The public simply doesn't care. Things aren't the same.

Posted by: W.H. Doubter at November 09, 2012 04:28 PM (Td9D+)

143 "Shhhhh.... my stories are coming on."

I LOL'd

Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at November 09, 2012 04:28 PM (zpqa2)

144 The FBI is investigating the Head of the CIA for months, and they don't tell the President.




Sure.  I believe in the Tooth Fairy too.

Posted by: mama winger, stranger in a strange land at November 09, 2012 04:29 PM (P6QsQ)

145 Good question, Ace. And I just made a decision. Rather than send whatever funds I can budget for political campaigns, from now on I'm going to tip conservative new media sites like AOSHQ instead. At least until I see the GOP stand up to fraud. Allen West is there in Florida seemingly on his own. Is the GOP party supporting him? If they counted votes in St. Lucie county twice, what happened in Miami-Dade, the only county where Mitt mysteriously way under-performed John McCain. I'm sick of this b.s. We are supposed to have free and fair elections in the US. Anyway, this Petraeus resignation is just too f***g convenient in terms of its timing. I just saw Rep. Peter King on FOX say, "absolutely we expect him to testify." We must demand it.

Posted by: TD, a maker not a taker at November 09, 2012 04:29 PM (+uFux)

146 "128 Election is over, none of this shit matters. The people have such short memories that they are swayed by a last minute tropical system. With the Donks controlling the Senate and a blackout by the press, anything can happen and probably will. Posted by: Jinx the Cat at November 09, 2012 08:24 PM (l3vZN) " ADD. Not a good idea. (Also not a good idea: trusting the Media.)

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 09, 2012 04:29 PM (uvzjj)

147 Can you imagine if Petraeus was Mitt's running mate, or the candidate and won?! Ho-leee-sheeet...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 09, 2012 04:29 PM (XkWWK)

148 126 What the fuck happened to the AoSHQ I used to know? Where's the spirit?
Where's the guts, huh?! This could be the greatest night of our lives,
but you're gonna let it be the worst! "Ooh, we're afraid to go with you Radish, we might get in trouble." Well, just kiss my ass from now on! Not
me! I'm not gonna take this! Wormer, he's a dead man! Marmalard, dead!
Niedermeyer—

Posted by: HeatherRadish getting wasted on pudding shots at November 09, 2012 08:24 PM (hO8IJ)

 

 

...DEAD!  HeatherRadish is right...Psychotic... but absolutely right. We gotta take these bastards. Now we could do it with conventional weapons, but that could take years and cost millions of lives. No, I think we have to go all out. I think that this situation absolutely requires a really futile and stupid gesture be done on somebody's part!   And we're just the guys to do it!

Posted by: Havedash at November 09, 2012 04:29 PM (ToMJU)

149 who cares?

Posted by: Throw Them All Out at November 09, 2012 04:29 PM (z8Cts)

150 36 I can't get over the suspicion that if Romney had released the lawyers instead of conceding this thing might have turned out differently. Even if not, FFS, it's becoming clear that there was so much fraud in play that it's almost an injustice not to take action on it at the most opportune time.

Posted by: D. R. Ainbough at November 09, 2012 08:08 PM (BgIBZ)

 

Who in his right mind would want to inherit the SCOAMT's clusterf*ck?  Romney's not stupid.  There's really no way out of this hole now, no matter who's at the helm.  Let Barky drown in his own runny feces.

Posted by: EyeTest at November 09, 2012 04:30 PM (ReC4P)

151 Gingrich, on the other hand, is a master at it.
Posted by: HarryNoFilibustersReed at November 09, 2012 08:07 PM (LXKJo)

Unfortunately, Gingrich has not been shown to have enough spine to face a government bureaucracy shut down. He caved when threatened with a government shut down. They called his bluff and the Republicans have paid and so has the country ever since then.

We need someone with a little "damn the torpedoes" attitude in them for a president. Or even a speaker.

That's the problem with raising Speakers or leaders from the minority positions. Being the minority leader and being the speaker takes two different personalities. Same with Senate.

Posted by: Jcw46 at November 09, 2012 04:30 PM (SP4jC)

152
"John Boehner has to go."

I think the thing that is cause for despair more than anything else, far worse than merely having Obama return for another four years, is that the goddamned Beltway Buttmunch establishment Republicans who inflicted Romney on us are still firmly in place. Because, you know, Romney was the "safe choice".

We say we want to effect radical change in the country in order to save it.

But we're unable even to effect radical change in our own party's leadership. It's the same damned bunch of go-along-to-get-along wimps and corrupt sellout hacks that we have had for the last 30 years.

Boehner delenda est!

Posted by: torquewrench at November 09, 2012 04:31 PM (ymG7s)

153 "130 "I still think the Republicans should've gone full moron and nominated Gingrich. Yeah, he would have lost, but he'd have inflicted some damage along the way." Gingrich would have refused to participate in those rigged circuses which pass for "debates". He would have insisted on Lincoln-Douglas style with no moderator. (Can you _imagine_ Barky having to speak without notes for 90 minutes?) And if Barky wouldn't show up, Gingrich would have snappily debated the empty podium. Would have been a pile of fun. I don't think Gingrich is electable. His zipper trouble and Pelosi commercial and random rants about colonizing the moon say that he's not. But since we now know that the guy who didn't do any of that stuff wasn't electable either, for different reasons, hell, if we had it all to do over, why not? And, Gingrich would have scored some points with the pro-amnesty bunch. Posted by: torquewrench at November 09, 2012 08:24 PM (ymG7s) " Yes. We can't have Gingrich. Because Penis. And Zombie Morality. Which for some reason seems to only want to eat Republican brains. (And cock.)

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 09, 2012 04:31 PM (uvzjj)

154 Would love to have some old Russians on this blog to tell us what tomorrow's news will be.

Posted by: t-bird at November 09, 2012 04:31 PM (FcR7P)

155 I am an atheist and a Libertarian-leaning Independent. I wholeheartedly endorse Michelle Bachmann as our next Speaker of the House. Call your incoming rep. It just feels right.

Posted by: Rob McNeece at November 09, 2012 04:31 PM (EzOzr)

156 "132 His testimony, if he indeed testifies, is tainted because of this. Rightly or wrongly. Un-fucking-real... Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 09, 2012 08:25 PM (XkWWK) " Convenient. And useful.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 09, 2012 04:32 PM (uvzjj)

157 150

I don't know.  I just want to watch a good movie.  Somebody write the script.  Calling Dinesh D'/Souza.  We can ask Black Helicopters Sick Twisted Freak Glenn Beck to finance the production.

Posted by: L, just L at November 09, 2012 04:32 PM (0PiQ4)

158 "I want to draft Dennis Miller for president in 2016."




Couldn't hurt.  He's just as electable as Mr. Electability, Sooper Dooper Competent, Amazing Ground Game, It's His Turn, Huge Organization Mitt.




Actually, could we get "electable" and "electability" included in the spam filter?

Posted by: Brocko the Magnificent at November 09, 2012 04:33 PM (8JpQH)

159 the goddamned Beltway Buttmunch establishment Republicans who inflicted Romney on us

Can we stop this nonsense?  Please?  Romney was not "inflicted" upon us, he was the the choice of the primary and caucus voters.

Posted by: chemjeff at November 09, 2012 04:33 PM (5p18q)

160 "142 Did I say Blue? I meant RED. (((freaking moron))) Posted by: Craig Poe at November 09, 2012 08:27 PM (BVkEs) " Not really. Blue is our color. We need to take our color back. The Reds can have red.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 09, 2012 04:33 PM (uvzjj)

161 Christy Blinky for President


Wooot!

Posted by: Jcw46 at November 09, 2012 04:33 PM (SP4jC)

162

162 "130 

 

Well, i must not be all dead inside after all.  I lol'd.

Posted by: EyeTest at November 09, 2012 04:33 PM (ReC4P)

163 Next election, I'm voting for whoever will go after the Media.  I don't care if it's a transgendered illegal from Tijuana .  If he/she/it goes after the Media like a pitbull on steroids, they are getting my vote.

Posted by: mama winger, stranger in a strange land at November 09, 2012 04:33 PM (P6QsQ)

164 "We say we want to effect radical change in the country in order to save it. But we're unable even to effect radical change in our own party's leadership." Its a case of older conservatives having their hearts in the right places but no political intelligence whatsoever. They are too stubborn and obstinate to admit that the world has changed and their methods are no longer effective. I hate to say it but its true.

Posted by: W.H. Doubter at November 09, 2012 04:34 PM (Td9D+)

165 Gingrich thinks global warming is real; Fuck him. I don't want a panderer, I want someone who will espouse conservative principals with no shame. Let's run that guy/gal and see what happens. We've shown we can't win with half measures, my only concern is who is out there that we can rally behind.

Posted by: stourma at November 09, 2012 04:34 PM (Xf0bG)

166 147 @Mr. Pink: I'm with you on that. If we're not going to go full hog and put up a Conservative that "people can get behind," fuck-it. Let the Dems have at it. Bring the fucker down already. Let's stop going half measures on this shit and let them have it. " I am not going all purity Republicans now. I am simply not going to vote Repub as long as John "slept like a baby" Boner is speaker. If my leadership doesn't care why the fuck should I? Also he is selling us out before the democrats even started to bargain. I do not believe that a complete fool got elected to the Speaker of the House. People think Pelosi is stupid, I dont. I just think she is a lousy liar. This fucker Boner is doing this shit on purpose. Do you honestly think he woke up two days after the election and was like "Hey you know what I like amnesty and I like tax increases on the wealthy all of a sudden, lets offer that shit"....no he had already thought of it before the election. I rather believe he is doing it on purpose rather than him being a fucking retard.

Posted by: Mr. Pink at November 09, 2012 04:34 PM (++kZl)

167 "144 Fuck Obama. Up the ass. With a spatula. And an arugula in the mouth. As long as there is room for the pineapple, it's all good Posted by: chemjeff at November 09, 2012 08:27 PM (5p18q) " There probably is. Practice makes "perfect."

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 09, 2012 04:34 PM (uvzjj)

168 Alexthechick for President in 2016.  With extra super-duty stompy boots.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 09, 2012 04:35 PM (xtS2H)

169 "153 The FBI is investigating the Head of the CIA for months, and they don't tell the President. Sure. I believe in the Tooth Fairy too. Posted by: mama winger, stranger in a strange land at November 09, 2012 08:29 PM (P6QsQ) " Obama is the Tushy Fairy.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 09, 2012 04:36 PM (uvzjj)

170 Romney was the best the Republicans had. Everyone else in the primary sucked ass.

I'd further say that Romney was the best the Republicans could have had. This is just not the same country it was in 1984.

Posted by: boulder hobo at November 09, 2012 04:36 PM (QTHTd)

171 didn't some russian predict that the US was gonna break up around 2010 or so?

Posted by: Jcw46 at November 09, 2012 04:37 PM (SP4jC)

172 a transgendered illegal from Tijuana Probably be voting Dem for the first time in my life, then... if that's not the Poster Child for the Democrats, I'll eat my hat

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor AfriCon American Lover at November 09, 2012 04:37 PM (2rMmy)

173 177 Alexthechick for President in 2016. With extra super-duty stompy boots.

Alexthechick/SMOD 2016!!!!!

Posted by: chemjeff at November 09, 2012 04:37 PM (5p18q)

174 The FBI is investigating the Head of the CIA for months, and they don't tell the President. Why the hell would they be investigating unless they were told to?

Posted by: t-bird at November 09, 2012 04:38 PM (FcR7P)

175 Petraeus was compromised on 9/11/12, when the Benghazi debacle blossomed into fruition. 

You never let a crisis go to waste, and you never reveal the cum-stained dirty laundry until it's needed in a crisis.

Posted by: Fritz at November 09, 2012 04:38 PM (0yCoM)

176 Alexthechick/SMOD 2016!!!!!

The Inaugural will be a blast.

Posted by: HeatherRadish getting wasted on pudding shots at November 09, 2012 04:38 PM (hO8IJ)

177 Couldn't hurt. He's just as electable as Mr. Electability, Sooper Dooper Competent, Amazing Ground Game, It's His Turn, Huge Organization Mitt. Actually, could we get "electable" and "electability" included in the spam filter? Posted by: Brocko the Magnificent at November 09, 2012 08:33 PM (8JpQH) Dude Jesse Jackson Junior got reelected. Electability is for suckers.

Posted by: Mr. Pink at November 09, 2012 04:38 PM (++kZl)

178 "166 150 I don't know. I just want to watch a good movie. Somebody write the script. Calling Dinesh D'/Souza. We can ask Black Helicopters Sick Twisted Freak Glenn Beck to finance the production. Posted by: L, just L at November 09, 2012 08:32 PM (0PiQ4) " If he really did try to scapegoat Christie, Beck is dead to me.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 09, 2012 04:38 PM (uvzjj)

179 Yeah, here it is in the WSJ  from dec 29,2008 == Russian Predicts Collapse

http://tinyurl.com/a4wkge

Posted by: Jcw46 at November 09, 2012 04:38 PM (SP4jC)

180 181 Relax guys.........John McCain and Lindsey Graham will be all over this. Team RINO: World Police.

Posted by: Rob McNeece at November 09, 2012 04:38 PM (EzOzr)

181 "Careful what you wish for. 1095 days to election season 2016."

I'm focused with hawklike intensity on 2014.

The Democrats have to play Senate defense that year.

The economy is virtually certain to suck rancid donkey balls starting basically with Christmas this year, going into the Obamacare layoffs and hourly cutbacks in January. To say nothing of sequestration. Two years of misery are a real likelihood. The voters will be pissed with the party in power. Six year itch.

There is a shot at getting the Senate back, which would neuter Obama for his last two years. He'd basically vanish to the golf course.

But, and this is critical...

NO SOCON RETARDS TALKING ABOUT MAGIC RAPE SPERM DETECTORS!!!

Seriously. No. Don't even think about running any socons. Not after what just happened.

Posted by: torquewrench at November 09, 2012 04:39 PM (ymG7s)

182 didn't some russian predict that the US was gonna break up around 2010 or so? They didn't realize Obama would be playing so much golf.

Posted by: t-bird at November 09, 2012 04:39 PM (FcR7P)

183 And mama winger, that didn't come out like I meant. I meant that I LOVE your idea, and agree 110%.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 09, 2012 04:40 PM (2rMmy)

184 "168 the goddamned Beltway Buttmunch establishment Republicans who inflicted Romney on us Can we stop this nonsense? Please? Romney was not "inflicted" upon us, he was the the choice of the primary and caucus voters. Posted by: chemjeff at November 09, 2012 08:33 PM (5p18q) " People are influenceable.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 09, 2012 04:40 PM (uvzjj)

185 can't get over the suspicion that if Romney had released the lawyers instead of conceding this thing might have turned out differently. Even if not, FFS, it's becoming clear that there was so much fraud in play that it's almost an injustice not to take action on it at the most opportune time.
--
Obama isn't sworn in until Jan.  Not a lot of time, but I don't understand why the GOP & Romney would just allow Obama to get away with it.
The time to act is NOW. 

And I agree about Romney, thought he conceded way too soon.  Thought both sides had armies of lawyers standing by.  Benefit of the doubt, I think Romney was in shock.  We all were.  But hopefully the blood is returning to people's heads and they'll start to think clearer.  So far Allen West is the only one who's been thinking straight.

Posted by: Mayday at November 09, 2012 04:40 PM (F3s39)

186 Damn, Ace.  I can't get the lions mating image out of my head.  Why'd you do that to me? I thought I loved you yesterday.  I think I don't anymore.

Posted by: L, just L at November 09, 2012 04:40 PM (0PiQ4)

187 It's possible the media knew--and sat on it.

Posted by: tasker at November 09, 2012 04:40 PM (r2PLg)

188 NO SOCON RETARDS

Yeah, they're only 25% of the electorate. Can't have them showing up to vote, now, can we?

Posted by: HeatherRadish getting wasted on pudding shots at November 09, 2012 04:40 PM (hO8IJ)

189 "171 162 "130 Well, i must not be all dead inside after all. I lol'd. Posted by: EyeTest at November 09, 2012 08:33 PM (ReC4P) "

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 09, 2012 04:40 PM (uvzjj)

190

  The media has held Obamas water for four years.

 

  Today at his "presser"... the media was not allowed to ask questions and was seated in the back rows according to the Daily Caller.  As the usefull idiot political hacks clapped and cheered for eating the rich!

 

  Hahahahahahahah.  The media has outlived its usefulness for Dear Leader.

 

  The question now is will the MS media begin to resent being treated as second class citizens and begin to question this administrations actions at all levels?  Is the hope of the Republic riding on some MS media persons pride?

 

  Help us Jake Tapper.  You're our only hope.

Posted by: Some Guy in Wisconsin at November 09, 2012 04:40 PM (tPHZQ)

191 OT

O Frikkin T


I just had a call from the RNC asking for MONEY for the next election cycle!!!!!

Do you know what he said to me????  Do you???

He said, and I quote - "WE ACCOMPLISHED MOST OF OUR MAJOR GOALS THIS TIME"


WHAT THE HELLLLLLL !!!???????????????

Posted by: mama winger, stranger in a strange land at November 09, 2012 04:41 PM (P6QsQ)

192 "172 Next election, I'm voting for whoever will go after the Media. I don't care if it's a transgendered illegal from Tijuana . If he/she/it goes after the Media like a pitbull on steroids, they are getting my vote. Posted by: mama winger, stranger in a strange land at November 09, 2012 08:33 PM (P6QsQ) " Yes! That's a good idea.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 09, 2012 04:41 PM (uvzjj)

193 "174 Gingrich thinks global warming is real; Fuck him. I don't want a panderer, I want someone who will espouse conservative principals with no shame. Let's run that guy/gal and see what happens. We've shown we can't win with half measures, my only concern is who is out there that we can rally behind. Posted by: stourma at November 09, 2012 08:34 PM (Xf0bG) " No one's perfect.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 09, 2012 04:42 PM (uvzjj)

194 Monday I start my Phase II of War on WaPo. They'd better get some rest. I figure no one reads their little stories on the weekends. I have neglected cramming my brain with stories by Jennifer Griffin or Catherine Herridge because I was stupidly distracted by trying to get this corrupt bunch of thugs out of DC. I guess, now, we have to play dirty. Are you ready, boys and girls for some reverse Alinksy?

Tar and feathers are too good for this bunch. Someone, somehow, has to know what happened. Are there no American heroes left (other than Woods and that other guy who testified, brain not working due to gin intake).

I am ticked off beyond measure that the Senate hearings are not public, and have been but was focused on electing normal people into office. No more. When is my man Issa's next hearing? I hope he comes in and unloads.

I have had entirely enough of this crap.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, raving lunatic about Benghazi at November 09, 2012 04:42 PM (baL2B)

195 "Romney was the best the Republicans had. Everyone else in the primary sucked ass."



Yeah, I drank that Kool-aid too.

Posted by: Brocko the Magnificent at November 09, 2012 04:42 PM (8JpQH)

196 "The economy is virtually certain to suck rancid donkey balls starting basically with Christmas this year, going into the Obamacare layoffs and hourly cutbacks in January. To say nothing of sequestration. Two years of misery are a real likelihood. The voters will be pissed with the party in power. Six year itch."Posted by: torquewrench at November 09, 2012 08:39 PM (ymG7s) Bwhahahahahahah. Where have you been the past 4 years buddy? They didnt care then, and they wont care in 2 years. THIER VOTERS ELECTED A GUY UNDER INVESTIGATION FOR FRAUD, AND A WOMAN WHO LIED FOR DECADES ABOUT BEING A MINORITY. They dont care about a fucking economy either if they didn't this time.

Posted by: Mr. Pink at November 09, 2012 04:42 PM (++kZl)

197 The question now is will the MS media begin to resent being treated as second class citizens and begin to question this administrations actions at all levels? Is the hope of the Republic riding on some MS media persons pride?

Help us Jake Tapper. You're our only hope.

Posted by: Some Guy in Wisconsin at November 09, 2012 08:40 PM (tPHZQ) 



I wouldn't hold your breathe over that

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 09, 2012 04:42 PM (ljJpj)

198 Look, I know I'm seriously off topic on this thread and I usually lurk, since 2004 at least, but this fucking election has got my guts in a knot. Ace needs to put up a post just so we can vent. Not talk about Mitt should have done this or that; but to just fucking vent. I keep seeing this weeping Boner stuff and I just wonder if it at this point it really matters who is Speaker. This is about power, for both parties and we really need to wake up about this. It's not Republican or Democrat now; it's us against them and the them are the fucking Government. I haven't switched my party affiliation yet, but that's soon to happen. To what; I'm not sure. But I can guarandamntiyou that it's shifting from Republican.

Posted by: stourma at November 09, 2012 04:43 PM (Xf0bG)

199 Let's hold an honorary President of AoSHQ.

Let Ace or one of the Cob loggers pick 10-15 names and use a poll widget.

At least we'll have the satisfaction of electing a candidate we can believe in and win something this year.

Who's with me?


Posted by: Jcw46 at November 09, 2012 04:43 PM (SP4jC)

200 I screamed at the man - SCREAMED!

"If you accomplished most of your major goals WHAT THE HELL IS BARACK OBAMA DOING IN THE WHITE HOUSE ?????????????"

Posted by: mama winger, stranger in a strange land at November 09, 2012 04:43 PM (P6QsQ)

201 Freaking crickets from the media is all we'll hear. They ignored F&F dead embassy workers. Etc. they aren't even trying to pretend anymore.

Posted by: Minnfidel at November 09, 2012 04:43 PM (bXdYS)

202 The question now is will the MS media begin to resent being treated as second class citizens and begin to question this administrations actions at all levels? Is the hope of the Republic riding on some MS media persons pride?

Help us Jake Tapper. You're our only hope.

Posted by: Some Guy in Wisconsin at November 09, 2012 08:40 PM (tPHZQ)

 

 

Yeah, sure.  Just like the religious  blacks didn't vote for obama because of teh butt seks laws.

Posted by: Havedash at November 09, 2012 04:44 PM (ToMJU)

203 Ok...one thing I am considering doing is having a button made saying "Ask me about Benghazi" and wearing it everywhere I go. I am dead serious (much to my husband's dismay).


Posted by: ChristyBlinky, raving lunatic about Benghazi at November 09, 2012 04:44 PM (baL2B)

204 "180 Romney was the best the Republicans had. Everyone else in the primary sucked ass. I'd further say that Romney was the best the Republicans could have had. This is just not the same country it was in 1984. Posted by: boulder hobo at November 09, 2012 08:36 PM (QTHTd) " Gingrich. (And yes, Santorum probably could have done better. Flame away.)

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 09, 2012 04:44 PM (uvzjj)

205 Speaking of 'when did Obama know', but remember when Obama mentioned that Mitt Romney wanted David Petraeus as his VP pick? Obama must have been very confident Petraeus would say no to leak that information so casually at a fundraiser. I wonder why he was that confident? http://www.drudgereport.com/flashgp.htm

Posted by: Artemus Khan, Supervillain Billionaire Layabout-at-Large at November 09, 2012 04:44 PM (k1vsl)

206 I'm focused with hawklike intensity on 2014. Who do you think will get the October 2014 software contract from the RNC? I say it will be India, but those Chinese are really hard workers. Might come thru with a low-ball bid.

Posted by: t-bird at November 09, 2012 04:44 PM (FcR7P)

207 That's it.

That IS IT.

I am OUT.

Posted by: mama winger, stranger in a strange land at November 09, 2012 04:44 PM (P6QsQ)

208 I think O-ring will give one press conference right before the debt ceiling negotiation in order to give the media their marching orders for beating up the GOP and bully them into submission.

After that?

No presser until just before the 2014 elections.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at November 09, 2012 04:44 PM (SX6wc)

209 "183 a transgendered illegal from Tijuana Probably be voting Dem for the first time in my life, then... if that's not the Poster Child for the Democrats, I'll eat my hat Posted by: Tammy al-Thor AfriCon American Lover at November 09, 2012 08:37 PM (2rMmy) " Obama is the poster child.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 09, 2012 04:45 PM (uvzjj)

210 159 Who in his right mind would want to inherit the SCOAMT's clusterf*ck? Romney's not stupid. There's really no way out of this hole now, no matter who's at the helm. LetBarky drown in his own runny feces.

Posted by: EyeTest at November 09, 2012 08:30 PM (ReC4P)

--

With all due respect, that's possibly the dumbest thing I've ever seen posted here.  Romney campaigned for two years (or 6 depending on how you look at it), ran himself and his family ragged, withstood an onslaught of smearing, raised and spent millions, carried the collective hopes and dreams of all his doners, supporters and voters on his shoulders, all to win the presidency, then lost and you think he didn't want it anyway?


Posted by: Mayday at November 09, 2012 04:45 PM (F3s39)

211 "187 didn't some russian predict that the US was gonna break up around 2010 or so? No, that was me. Posted by: Hank Johnson at November 09, 2012 08:38 PM (vbh31) " A Russian as well.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 09, 2012 04:45 PM (uvzjj)

212 "NO SOCON RETARDS TALKING ABOUT MAGIC RAPE SPERM DETECTORS!!!

Seriously. No. Don't even think about running any socons. Not after what just happened.

Posted by: torquewrench at November 09, 2012 08:39 PM (ymG7s)"



You know what, I'm not even close to a SoCon, and I bought into what you're peddling too, but considering the last Repub ticket to have a SoCon on it did better than Mr. Fucking electability, I'd say you're as full of shit as anyone else here.

Posted by: Brocko the Magnificent at November 09, 2012 04:46 PM (8JpQH)

213 Posted by: torquewrench at November 09, 2012 08:39 PM (ymG7s) Sure. That's the lesson.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 09, 2012 04:46 PM (uvzjj)

214 222 That's it. That IS IT. I am OUT. Posted by: mama winger, stranger in a strange land at November 09, 2012 08:44 PM (P6QsQ) Beer run?

Posted by: Mr. Pink at November 09, 2012 04:47 PM (++kZl)

215

Unfortunately, Gingrich has not been shown to have enough spine to face a government bureaucracy shut down. He caved when threatened with a government shut down.

 

I believe that to be wrong.

Posted by: Ronster at November 09, 2012 04:47 PM (nQMHQ)

216 I wonder what predicated the FBI investigation that surfaced the affair, what was the timeline of the investigation and what, if anything, was the final disposition of that investigation. It may have been a valid investigation that produced an embarrassing little nugget that Steadman filed away for a "rainy day" if and when it was needed against Petraeus- J. Edgar Hoover was infamous for stuff like that. J. Edgar Steadman? Or maybe the investigation was suborned for the express purpose of digging dirt on Petraeus, which sounds more like the Steadman we all know and love- in a prison jumpsuit. In any event that Steadman and the JEF were trying to blackmail Petraeus. They just didn't count on the fact that his first instinct would be to charge into the ambush. This should be fun to watch.

Posted by: Nighthawk at November 09, 2012 04:47 PM (n1x7a)

217 There is a shot at getting the Senate back, which would neuter Obama for his last two years. He'd basically vanish to the golf course.

Normally I would agree with you but in light of recent events I am not so sure.

We can probably take the stupid Begich seat in AK.  The one that we never should have lost in the first place.  That one looks likely.

I would bet money that Johnson in SD (the guy who had the stroke) is going to retire.  So we have a good shot at that one too.

Landrieu in LA and Pryor in AR and Hagan in NC are up for re-election.  We may be able to take those.

As for the rest?  I don't know.  Warner in VA is up for re-election, but VA has shown itself to be a blue state now.  Don't know if that's possible.  Baucus in MT is up for re-election, but MT just voted to send back their other D senator.  The other states are all pretty solidly blue.  Sure Franken in MN is up for re-election, but who is going to challenge him?  Pawlenty?  Bachmann?

Posted by: chemjeff at November 09, 2012 04:47 PM (5p18q)

218 Okay, the first part of the NewsMax article some questions people are asking: Ronald Kessler reporting from Washington, D.C. — The resignation of David H. Petraeus as CIA director followed an FBI investigation of many months, raising the question of why he was not forced out until after the election. In his letter of resignation, Petraeus cited an extra-marital affair he had been having. “After being married for over 37 years, I showed extremely poor judgment by engaging in an extramarital affair,” Petraeus said in his letter to President Obama. “Such behavior is unacceptable, both as a husband and as the leader of an organization such as ours.” Petraeus, who had a distinguished military career, revealed no additional details. However, an FBI source says the investigation began when American intelligence mistook an email Petraeus had sent to his girlfriend as a reference to corruption. Petraeus was commander of U.S. Forces in Afghanistan from July 4, 2010 until July 18, 2011. The investigation began last spring, but the FBI then pored over his emails when he was stationed in Afghanistan.

Posted by: Ed Anger at November 09, 2012 04:48 PM (tOkJB)

219 "Next election, I'm voting for whoever will go after the Media. I don't care if it's a transgendered illegal from Tijuana . If he/she/it goes after the Media like a pitbull on steroids, they are getting my vote."

The only one who had the stones to openly say that the debate questions were bullshit, right there in front of God and everyone while live on camera, was Newt.

Is there any other individual in the party with that kind of righteous fire? Anyone who is still disciplined enough to bring the hurt on the media whores without appearing to be nutty?

West.

Really the only name that comes to mind.

And we don't even know if he has survived the recount yet.

Posted by: torquewrench at November 09, 2012 04:48 PM (ymG7s)

220 220 Speaking of 'when did Obama know', but remember when Obama mentioned that Mitt Romney wanted David Petraeus as his VP pick? Obama must have been very confident Petraeus would say no to leak that information so casually at a fundraiser. I wonder why he was that confident? http://www.drudgereport.com/flashgp.htm

Posted by: Artemus Khan, Supervillain Billionaire Layabout-at-Large at November 09, 2012 08:44 PM (k1vsl)


Wow. I forgot about that. I hope Asia keeps him. Keep him! He speaks Indonesian and eats dogs! Lolo ate his poodle!

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, raving lunatic about Benghazi at November 09, 2012 04:48 PM (baL2B)

221 I'm ready for a Third Party now. We're never going to win again anyway, and the Republicans are just going to roll over after we lose, instead of standing their ground apparently. We definitely need someone with a mouth like Ann Coulter and the balls to use it at any cost. Allen West is the only one I can think of.....now mind you, he caved on a budget vote or two as I recall, but as a campaigner, I believe he'd kick ass. I am beyond hoping for a win now, but I'd get behind someone who was willing to go down fighting with me.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 09, 2012 04:48 PM (2rMmy)

222 "I keep seeing this weeping Boner stuff and I just wonder if it at this point it really matters who is Speaker. This is about power, for both parties and we really need to wake up about this. It's not Republican or Democrat now; it's us against them and the them are the fucking Government. I haven't switched my party affiliation yet, but that's soon to happen. To what; I'm not sure. But I can guarandamntiyou that it's shifting from Republican." I'm with you mate. It seems teh HQ has devolved into a bunch of impotent wailers hellbent on posing the wrong questions. If you ask me, its all about the culture wars, and how far we've been set back in those wars. Conservatives have no presence in Hollywood, television, music, or anything considered cool by the electorate. Hence, conservatives fail. Now you can go ahead and say "well if it's about being cool then I don't care anymore". And that's fine, I don't really blame you. But don't expect to do anything but fail as a conservative for the remainder of your years.

Posted by: W.H. Doubter at November 09, 2012 04:48 PM (Td9D+)

223 "204 OT O Frikkin T I just had a call from the RNC asking for MONEY for the next election cycle!!!!! Do you know what he said to me???? Do you??? He said, and I quote - "WE ACCOMPLISHED MOST OF OUR MAJOR GOALS THIS TIME" WHAT THE HELLLLLLL !!!??????????????? Posted by: mama winger, stranger in a strange land at November 09, 2012 08:41 PM (P6QsQ) " LOL.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 09, 2012 04:48 PM (uvzjj)

224 NO SOCON RETARDS TALKING ABOUT MAGIC RAPE SPERM DETECTORS!!!

Let's raise those questions about Darwin, though.

Because your eternal soul is at stake.

Posted by: rep. Paul Broun at November 09, 2012 04:49 PM (QTHTd)

225 RNC Fundraisers telling me that they accomplished most of their major goals last Tuesday??????  ARE THEY INSANE ?????


I'm out out out of the Republican Party.  They are living in some kind of alternate universe

Posted by: mama winger, stranger in a strange land at November 09, 2012 04:49 PM (P6QsQ)

226 145 I want to draft Dennis Miller for president in 2016. Seriously. I want him to take these people on......
Posted by: ChristyBlinky, raving lunatic about Benghazi at November 09, 2012 08:27 PM (baL2B)

Brilliant!  Living in a brain dead pop cultural society, most poeple will only vote for celebrity types.  Dennis Miller would fit the bill an serve as a great conservative.

Posted by: Deli LLama at November 09, 2012 04:49 PM (lGu1O)

227 All of the above.  This is a corrupt administration.  If they were not democrats the MSM would be all in for impeachment.

Course, that would be RACIST!

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at November 09, 2012 04:49 PM (wR+pz)

228 Oh yeah, off dirty Brocko sock

Posted by: Burn the Witch at November 09, 2012 04:49 PM (8JpQH)

229 "205 And right now, in the newsrooms of NBC, CBS and ABC they are working overtime on hard hitting Feature Stories of couragous Americans crafting quilts for AIDS victims. At CNN, Piers Morgan is sitting down with Anderson Cooper to discussAnderson's hard hitting interview with Anderson's mom. At MSNBC, Chrissy, Rachel and the Rev AL are pointing out all the racism that is still left. Dead American Ambassador......freezing residents of Staten Island.....compromised CIA director.......yea, sorry, that is really not important. Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at November 09, 2012 08:41 PM (OWjjx) " Priorities.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 09, 2012 04:49 PM (uvzjj)

230 I just had a call from the RNC asking for MONEY for the next election cycle!!!!!

Do you know what he said to me???? Do you???

He said, and I quote - "WE ACCOMPLISHED MOST OF OUR MAJOR GOALS THIS TIME"


===========


WTF?!  They're already out there looking for money?!


Holy-effin-crap.  Unfuckinbelievable.....I  I am speechless.  I guess president wasn't one of their major goals.


It boggles the mind.

Posted by: Tami at November 09, 2012 04:49 PM (X6akg)

231 You know what, I'm not even close to a SoCon, and I bought into what you're peddling too, but considering the last Repub ticket to have a SoCon on it did better than Mr. Fucking electability, I'd say you're as full of shit as anyone else here. Posted by: Brocko the Magnificent at November 09, 2012 08:46 PM (8JpQH) BTW, I agree. Obama ran as a social liberal. Why not fucking put up a social conservative. Then we can at least fight the abortion smears on a fucking even term.

Posted by: Mr. Pink at November 09, 2012 04:50 PM (++kZl)

232 Beer run?

Probably tired of being told to eat shit and die, your kind ain't wanted around here.

Posted by: HeatherRadish getting wasted on pudding shots at November 09, 2012 04:50 PM (hO8IJ)

233 Sure Franken in MN is up for re-election, but who is going to challenge him? Pawlenty? Bachmann? Dennis Miller. (Were they different eras, by the way? I can't remember)

Posted by: t-bird at November 09, 2012 04:50 PM (FcR7P)

234 Beep. boop, beep

Computer: estimate Snark level at AoSHQ

Working: Snark level at 85.63 and rising.

Computer: estimate Snide comments aimed a Stupid Politicians at AoSHQ

Working: Snide comments exceeding ratio of 4 : 2 and rising.

Computer: estimate Degree of Depression at AoSHQ

Working: Degree of Depression normal for AoSHQ

Ahh! we're almost back

Posted by: Jcw46 at November 09, 2012 04:50 PM (SP4jC)

235 14 To Whom It May Concern:

Stay away from Marcy Park.

Posted by: Craig Poe at November 09, 2012 08:02 PM (BVkEs)


True dat and don't take any aspirin. 

Posted by: Zombie Vince Foster at November 09, 2012 04:51 PM (wR+pz)

236 @Mirror: You know, I don't want perfect and I know you were being fasicious, I just want someone who is going to fucking have some balls and fight back. Look, I like Romney. I have for a very long time, but let's not fucking kid ourselves; he's no conservative. Like I said before; it didn't matter to me. I knew I was behind who the GOP put up four years ago. Well, no longer. We either put up someone who will grow some balls, or I may as well just not vote. That's where I'm at right now.

Posted by: stourma at November 09, 2012 04:51 PM (Xf0bG)

237 222 That's it.

That IS IT.

I am OUT.


Hey, wait for me!!!!!!

Posted by: L, just L at November 09, 2012 04:51 PM (0PiQ4)

238 "213 Let's hold an honorary President of AoSHQ. Let Ace or one of the Cob loggers pick 10-15 names and use a poll widget. At least we'll have the satisfaction of electing a candidate we can believe in and win something this year. Who's with me? Posted by: Jcw46 at November 09, 2012 08:43 PM (SP4jC) " I'm in.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 09, 2012 04:52 PM (uvzjj)

239 Ghee I wonder what has happened to the 50 minute video?

Posted by: tasker at November 09, 2012 04:52 PM (r2PLg)

240 I think Miller would work. Shit, I'd vote for him.

Posted by: Rob McNeece at November 09, 2012 04:52 PM (EzOzr)

241 "214 I screamed at the man - SCREAMED! "If you accomplished most of your major goals WHAT THE HELL IS BARACK OBAMA DOING IN THE WHITE HOUSE ?????????????" Posted by: mama winger, stranger in a strange land at November 09, 2012 08:43 PM (P6QsQ) " Probably sodomy. Or being sodomized.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 09, 2012 04:52 PM (uvzjj)

242 Conservatives have no presence in Hollywood, television, music, or anything considered cool by the electorate. Hence, conservatives fail.

What can be done? There's no way of forcing secularist Gramscians in LA and NYC to suddenly quit putting out SWPL shit and obnoxious blockbusters, and to put out conservative-friendly stuff instead that non-conservatives want to watch.

Posted by: boulder hobo at November 09, 2012 04:52 PM (QTHTd)

243 Think he was set up? Think it was a "honey trap"? I suspect Petraeus was used to dealing with honest, straightforward people, not the cesspool slime now in leadership positions in the democrat party. I thought from the beginning he was too good a person to be in such a "political" job. Not that the DCI should be "political". But that's Washington for you

Posted by: CharlieL at November 09, 2012 04:53 PM (NzmMc)

244 I wonder if a case can be made for voter fraud in OIHO by canvasing for Romney voters in the 100% and 108% Obama districts?

Is it just me thinking this a case of 100K monkeys typing out a Shakespeare play?

Posted by: sTevo at November 09, 2012 04:53 PM (VMcEw)

245 "215 Freaking crickets from the media is all we'll hear. They ignored F&F dead embassy workers. Etc. they aren't even trying to pretend anymore. Posted by: Minnfidel at November 09, 2012 08:43 PM (bXdYS) " Yep.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 09, 2012 04:53 PM (uvzjj)

246 God...how I was looking forward to the next 4 years free of SCOAMF, some sanity, not the daily bs crisis, racists comments, whities hating america, rich not paying fair share, hollywood libtards showing their private parts pledging allegiance to SCOAMF, listening to the MSM beg to boned by Obama... just wanted sanity, employment, quiet...

Posted by: Boned to the Max at November 09, 2012 04:54 PM (gkiG+)

247 Alternate Universe is being kind. Did I miss these goals we achieved? I am all for putting on a happy face and looking at the bright side, but WTF are they talking about?

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 09, 2012 04:54 PM (2rMmy)

248 We'll always have the UN for bitter comic relief. (Link in nick)

Posted by: logprof at November 09, 2012 04:54 PM (jKE+Z)

249 I mean, I keep hearing whining about "it's the media!". But there's no plan on replacing the media. The closest conservatives have to alt-media is Fox, and it's just Republicanism, and Republicanism is "Outer Party", a proven loser.

Posted by: boulder hobo at November 09, 2012 04:54 PM (QTHTd)

250 Election 2012 had the largest gender gap in history!

TODD AIKEN!

IS GOD STILL SPEAKING TO YOU?

YOU MOTHER FUCKER!

I HOPE YOU AND YOUR SHITTY SELF OBSESSED WIFE AND CHILDREN ALL CHOKE ON OBAMAS DICK!

You stupid shitfuck.

Posted by: jeremiah God Damn Barack Obama the Mother Fucking SCoaMF wright at November 09, 2012 04:54 PM (ovpNn)

251 ACCOMPLISHED MOST of THEIR MAJOR GOALS???

What - you left some parts of the country not totally burned to the ground??????


WHAT THE HELL?????????????

Posted by: mama winger, stranger in a strange land at November 09, 2012 04:54 PM (P6QsQ)

252 I wonder if a case can be made for voter fraud in OIHO by canvasing for Romney voters in the 100% and 108% Obama districts? There's no need for that as we have all the information in the database. Your password?

Posted by: ORCA at November 09, 2012 04:55 PM (FcR7P)

253 Not only do you people talk like you know a damn about politicking, you talk as if you have a say who runs and who gets nominated. You don't. McConnell isn't going anywhere. Boehner isn't going anywhere. And in 2016 we'll get another lousy nominee. That's life. You play the cards you're dealt and live with the consequences. Some of these comments are as unhinged as the Left Wing. Get a hold of yourselves and buck up.

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 09, 2012 04:55 PM (LVtr+)

254 "What can be done? There's no way of forcing secularist Gramscians in LA and NYC to suddenly quit putting out SWPL shit and obnoxious blockbusters, and to put out conservative-friendly stuff instead that non-conservatives want to watch." I think the problem is that there just aren't any talented conservative artists. If there were, they could squeak by the censors...moguls don't care about politics, they want the profits. The Left has all the talent, and they win the hearts and minds of Americans through the silver screen and celebrity culture.

Posted by: W.H. Doubter at November 09, 2012 04:55 PM (Td9D+)

255 More relevant than the question of 'when did Obama know' may be 'when did Petraeus know that Obama knew?'

It's not blackmail if you think your secret is safe.

Posted by: Artemus Khan, Supervillain Billionaire Layabout-at-Large at November 09, 2012 04:55 PM (k1vsl)

256 263 Alternate Universe is being kind. Did I miss these goals we achieved? I am all for putting on a happy face and looking at the bright side, but WTF are they talking about? Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 09, 2012 08:54 PM (2rMmy) Dear, may I call you dear? Our House majority leader "slept like a baby" after we lost. They dont care about you or me.

Posted by: Mr. Pink at November 09, 2012 04:55 PM (++kZl)

257

There seems to be a huge number (a majority?) of people who don't care how many or how bad Obama's scandals are.  The "numbnut bastard" demographic.

Posted by: Reggie1971 at November 09, 2012 04:55 PM (8cOY0)

258 There's no need for that as we have all the information in the database. Your password? Posted by: ORCA at November 09, 2012 08:55 PM (FcR7P) ________________ OBAMA

Posted by: tasker at November 09, 2012 04:56 PM (r2PLg)

259 Why not fucking put up a social conservative. Then we can at least fight the abortion smears on a fucking even term.

Posted by: Mr. Pink


Problem is the SoCon base is around 25%, but the SoLib base is around 50.3%.  That's why the whole War on Womyn, Akin, Mourdock, Santorum thing works.

Posted by: cool breeze at November 09, 2012 04:56 PM (A+/8k)

260 PS Obama is not from Tijuana.  Perhaps he is one of the confused from Tjilatjap Indonesia?

US Navy DesRon 29 sailors of ABDA Afloat could never pronounce the name so called it Jockstrap.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 09, 2012 04:56 PM (xtS2H)

261 We need to start our own news company.

Posted by: harleycowb at November 09, 2012 04:56 PM (wSTfB)

262 I miss Andrew Breitbart

Posted by: TD, a maker not a taker at November 09, 2012 04:56 PM (+uFux)

263 You stupid shitfuck. Posted by: jeremiah God Damn Barack Obama the Mother Fucking SCoaMF wright at November 09, 2012 08:54 PM (ovpNn) --He still needs to get behind Fuckabee in line. I guess it was God's will for Akin to lose after all.

Posted by: logprof at November 09, 2012 04:56 PM (jKE+Z)

264 True story my neighbor refuses to watch network news because its too right wing,i mean really what are you supposed to say when someone tells you that

Posted by: kj at November 09, 2012 04:56 PM (qEts0)

265 mama winger, that is awful.  The timing is pretty damn bad.

I'm thinking that maybe some robot from Project ORCA is in charge of making the RNC fundraising calls now.

Posted by: chemjeff at November 09, 2012 04:56 PM (5p18q)

266 Hey ya'll.  Here is something to cheer you up.

Read about the Hurricane Sandy stories. They're dying.  Fewer Democrats committing voter fraud.  Progress. 

Posted by: L, just L at November 09, 2012 04:56 PM (0PiQ4)

267 I'd further say that Romney was the best the Republicans could have had. This is just not the same country it was in 1984.

Posted by: boulder hobo at November 09, 2012 08:36 PM (QTHTd)

 

I thought you didn't vote, so why would you care?

Posted by: Ronster at November 09, 2012 04:56 PM (nQMHQ)

268 Did I miss these goals we achieved? I am all for putting on a happy face and looking at the bright side, but WTF are they talking about?

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 09, 2012 08:54 PM (2rMmy)


---------


After I screamed in his ear "ARE YOU FREAKING INSANE?? he asked me if I wanted him to continue with a list of goals they had achieved.  That's when I asked him again if he was FREAKING INSANE!"


Then I proceeded to give him a list of my own.  It wasn't very Christian-like.  I am a bad Christian tonight. Bad, but NOT FREAKING STUPID!!

Posted by: mama winger, stranger in a strange land at November 09, 2012 04:57 PM (P6QsQ)

269 "238 "I keep seeing this weeping Boner stuff and I just wonder if it at this point it really matters who is Speaker. This is about power, for both parties and we really need to wake up about this. It's not Republican or Democrat now; it's us against them and the them are the fucking Government. I haven't switched my party affiliation yet, but that's soon to happen. To what; I'm not sure. But I can guarandamntiyou that it's shifting from Republican." I'm with you mate. It seems teh HQ has devolved into a bunch of impotent wailers hellbent on posing the wrong questions. If you ask me, its all about the culture wars, and how far we've been set back in those wars. Conservatives have no presence in Hollywood, television, music, or anything considered cool by the electorate. Hence, conservatives fail. Now you can go ahead and say "well if it's about being cool then I don't care anymore". And that's fine, I don't really blame you. But don't expect to do anything but fail as a conservative for the remainder of your years. Posted by: W.H. Doubter at November 09, 2012 08:48 PM (Td9D+) " Yes. The Culture War was/is a real thing. But fighting it wasn't "cool," (funny how that worked out) so no one wanted to do it. And now, here we are. Fuck us, Obama.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 09, 2012 04:58 PM (uvzjj)

270 "Thanks for the helpful advice, David." I don't understand this.

Posted by: W.H. Doubter at November 09, 2012 04:58 PM (Td9D+)

271

True story my neighbor refuses to watch network news because its too right wing,i mean really what are you supposed to say when someone tells you that

Stop watching TBN.

Posted by: harleycowb at November 09, 2012 04:58 PM (wSTfB)

272

Ok.  My last post was a joke... we all know the media doesn't care if they don't get to ask the JEF questions.  They will still hold his water...

 

  I just wanted to post "Help us Jake Tapper.  You're our only hope."... cause I like that Disney movie.

Posted by: Some Guy in Wisconsin at November 09, 2012 04:58 PM (tPHZQ)

273 True story my neighbor refuses to watch network news because its too right wing,i mean really what are you supposed to say when someone tells you that Posted by: kj at November 09, 2012 08:56 PM

My boss thinks Wolf Blitzer is the most informed voice on television

Posted by: Dept. of Accuracy Dept. at November 09, 2012 04:58 PM (BAnPT)

274 Posted by: L, just L at November 09, 2012 08:56 PM (0PiQ4) Sorry. That's not right.

Posted by: t-bird at November 09, 2012 04:58 PM (FcR7P)

275 280 I miss Andrew Breitbart

Sigh.  .    .    .  Me too.  So so much.

Posted by: L, just L at November 09, 2012 04:59 PM (0PiQ4)

276 I have long suspected the General wore a toupee like Trent Lott. That explains a lot to me tonight. I hope it did not fall off during the under the desk extravaganza when he was supposed to be paying attention!

Which leaves me to WHO IS PAYING ATTENTION? Charlene Lamb? That woman who testified at the hearing? She said she watched the attack live. Where was everyone else? Where was the General? Under the desk? Writing emails to this Paula woman or reading her Facebook? Are there any adults left?

Wake me up when this is over.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, raving lunatic about Benghazi at November 09, 2012 04:59 PM (baL2B)

277 "241 RNC Fundraisers telling me that they accomplished most of their major goals last Tuesday?????? ARE THEY INSANE ????? I'm out out out of the Republican Party. They are living in some kind of alternate universe Posted by: mama winger, stranger in a strange land at November 09, 2012 08:49 PM (P6QsQ) " Their goal was to get paid. They got paid.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 09, 2012 04:59 PM (uvzjj)

278 mama, you are neither bad nor stupid. The GOP has had a break with reality; it has made it all the way to the Speaker's Office and apparently Sean Hannity got a raging case of it, too.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 09, 2012 04:59 PM (2rMmy)

279 To ask these questions of the administration of the Great and Most Historic Black in the history of EVER just shows what a racist wing nut rethuglican you are. Now shut up work hard and pay your fair share.

Posted by: Yenober at November 09, 2012 04:59 PM (6bVkc)

280 Hmm... West/Miller or Miller/West?

Posted by: JosephMuhfugginStalin at November 09, 2012 04:59 PM (LXKJo)

281 Read about the Hurricane Sandy stories.
--

Are you reading Drudge links, or what?  Someone posted a comment saying the gov't response was now officially worse than Katrina but I'm not sure where they saw that.

Posted by: Mayday at November 09, 2012 04:59 PM (F3s39)

282 Some of these comments are as unhinged as the Left Wing. Get a hold of yourselves and buck up. Posted by: Soothsayer at November 09, 2012 08:55 PM (LVtr+) Look I know how I sound. I can detach myself from politics and look at shit rationally. I have that ability. When the leader of the Republican party, which is now John Boner, says he slept like a baby after the worst President in history gets reelected, I really don't see any recourse in caring. I mean do you realize some people actually donated their time money, and effort into this....for months? Some people on here actually cared, and the leadership says fuck you, im going to bed, and then sells them out the next day.

Posted by: Mr. Pink at November 09, 2012 05:00 PM (++kZl)

283 Ronster at November 09, 2012 08:47 PM (nQMHQ)

28 days. then he caved. he claimed he got stuff in return but it helped re elect clinton and Gingrich got the boot.

He should've held on  longer. imo.

You are correct I mispoke when I said he didn't let the shutdown happen.

But I am correct in that he caved after the shutdown started. And after just 28 days it had only really just started.

Posted by: Jcw46 at November 09, 2012 05:00 PM (SP4jC)

284 "That's why the whole War on Womyn, Akin, Mourdock, Santorum thing works.


Posted by: cool breeze at November 09, 2012 08:56 PM (A+/8k) "


Yeah, it got Romney more independents and Obama 9  million less votes than four years ago.  Worked like a fucking charm it did.  Those tactics are famous for depressing Republican turnout.



/facepalm

Posted by: Burn the Witch at November 09, 2012 05:00 PM (8JpQH)

285 In 2014, there are 20 Democrats and 13 Republicans up for re-election by my count. Not sure that counts as “playing defense”, especially given that the Republicans are Republicans.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at November 09, 2012 05:00 PM (2v+KF)

286 "True story my neighbor refuses to watch network news because its too right wing,i mean really what are you supposed to say when someone tells you that" Just say "Hi Welcome", its the new internet forum meme for "you are terminally fucking retarded"

Posted by: W.H. Doubter at November 09, 2012 05:00 PM (Td9D+)

287 For GOP candidate in 2016: BIZ MARKIE!!!

Posted by: Golan Globus at November 09, 2012 05:00 PM (/1U3u)

288 @Soothsayer: You see, that's the fucking problem. You're right of course, but that's the fucking problem. We don't have a say. It used to be politics was a short term proposition. You served your country and went home. It's been fucking bastardized into a fucking career and now we're stuck with these guys/gals that have no connection to the people who put them in office. People vote for the name that's been on the ballot for years. They have no idea at this point whether that person is serving their best interest; doesn't matter. I'm fucking sick to death of it and I see no end to it. That's what is making me ill at this point and that's why I can't wait for it to BURN THE FUCK DOWN. It's going to. They can't do anything to stop it. Exponents are a bitch and although it will be rough, this experiment needs a reboot.

Posted by: stourma at November 09, 2012 05:00 PM (Xf0bG)

289 Read about the Hurricane Sandy stories.
They're dying. Fewer Democrats committing voter fraud.
Progress.
Posted by: L, just L at November 09, 2012 08:56 PM


No. Now they'll vote straight ticket forever and ever

Posted by: Dept. of Accuracy Dept. at November 09, 2012 05:01 PM (BAnPT)

290 fuck..moving to Zimbabwe where people have rights, economic freedom and stinky finger...

Posted by: Boned to the Max at November 09, 2012 05:01 PM (gkiG+)

291 Where all de white wimmen?

Posted by: Herman Cain at November 09, 2012 05:01 PM (t7dIX)

292 My boss thinks Wolf Blitzer is the most informed voice on television
Woman at work thinks Jon Stewart is an intellectual.

Posted by: harleycowb at November 09, 2012 05:01 PM (wSTfB)

293 282 True story my neighbor refuses to watch network news because its too right wing,i mean really what are you supposed to say when someone tells you that

Posted by: kj at November 09, 2012 08:56 PM (qEts0)

 

 

 

Look him straight in the eye and  tell him what a cheap, lying, no-good, rotten, four-flushing, low-life, snake-licking, dirt-eating, inbred, overstuffed, ignorant, blood-sucking, dog-kissing, brainless, dickless, hopeless, heartless, fat-ass, bug-eyed, stiff-legged, spotty-lipped, worm-headed sack of monkey shit he is! Hallelujah! Holy shit! Where's the Tylenol?

Posted by: Havedash at November 09, 2012 05:01 PM (ToMJU)

294 [i[True story my neighbor refuses to watch network news because its too right wing,i mean really what are you supposed to say when someone tells you that Posted by: kj[/i]

Depends on whether you want to cause friction between you and said neighbor.

If you don't care, ask him to point out a single 'right-wing' news story on the broadcast news. And then proceed to tear it to shreds.

Once done, just warn him that you have had years of practice at this and that he should give up immediately.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at November 09, 2012 05:02 PM (SX6wc)

295 That's stunning that the Speaker of the House "slept like a baby".

I didn't even vote - and I slept 4 hours that night, max. Woke up at 4 am with a sinking feeling.

I knew in my head that democracy (where welfare thugs can also vote) is a sham; but in my heart I knew that the next years were going to bring pain. Lots of folks on my side of the Right are talking up "Golden Dawn". I know I'll be among the first breathing the Zyklon.

But Boehner thinks it won't happen to him; red dawn, golden dawn, whatever.

Posted by: boulder hobo should quit reading Bloodlands at November 09, 2012 05:02 PM (QTHTd)

296 "Woman at work thinks Jon Stewart is an intellectual." Um, John Stewart is an intellectual. That's all he is really. Intellectual is not necessarily a flattering term.

Posted by: W.H. Doubter at November 09, 2012 05:03 PM (Td9D+)

297 Is it wrong to kiss my dog on his special place?

Posted by: Herbert Hymenhopper at November 09, 2012 05:03 PM (/YJYi)

298 Hmm... West/Miller or Miller/West? Posted by: JosephMuhfugginStalin at November 09, 2012 08:59 PM (LXKJo West/Miller. I love Dennis, but no experience. He has to be Numero Dos.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 09, 2012 05:03 PM (2rMmy)

299 "265 I mean, I keep hearing whining about "it's the media!". But there's no plan on replacing the media. The closest conservatives have to alt-media is Fox, and it's just Republicanism, and Republicanism is "Outer Party", a proven loser. Posted by: boulder hobo at November 09, 2012 08:54 PM (QTHTd) " We must build the New Media.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 09, 2012 05:04 PM (uvzjj)

300 "considering the last Repub ticket to have a SoCon on it did better than Mr. Fucking electability, I'd say you're as full of shit as anyone else here."

Except _that_ socon didn't make horrible gaffe blunders about rape. Nor did any other socons on downticket races that year.

Whereas this time round, we had two separate gaffe disasters with socons, both of them essentially unforgivably stupid, and both on a hot-button swing-voter issue. "Mr. Fucking Electability" had to try to run while simultaneously trying to brush their stink off his clothes. He didn't need that distraction.

In the first incident, a socon candidate WHO WAS AHEAD IN THE POLLS and who didn't even need to be talking to the media went out to talk to the media anyway. Genius. Where he made one of the dumbest statements ever to come from the mouth of anyone in the party, ever. Displaying a frankly appalling lack of understanding of junior high school biology. And horribly insulting uncounted numbers of rape survivors. This made _instant national news_. It went everywhere in minutes, affected polls within hours, and it continued to do damage right through Election Day.

Then, in the second incident, AFTER IT WAS CLEAR THE FIRST ONE WAS A DISASTER, another socon candidate faced what anyone with half a brain would know by then was an inevitable abortion question. And he hadn't prepared for that, and bungled it just about as badly. Though without the comical failure to grasp basic biology. That second gaffe made the first one even worse, because while you can argue one idiot is an outlier, two idiots are a trend. It's confirmatory.

Yes, I know Mourdock didn't _mean_ to say that rape was God's will. Whereas Akin really did mean it with his magic rape sperm detection nonsense. But Mourdock's unpracticed, boneheaded syntax left that open as one interpretation. And if there's a single key rule in modern media politics, it is that you cannot leave any ambiguity at all in what you say, as it will be ruthlessly seized and exploited. At least if you're a conservative, it will be.

Posted by: torquewrench at November 09, 2012 05:04 PM (ymG7s)

301 "We must build the New Media." That was Breitbart's job.

Posted by: W.H. Doubter at November 09, 2012 05:04 PM (Td9D+)

302 Here we go. Only 1095 days of SoCon bashing left here at AoS. Have at it, oh ye enlightened ones.Posted by: Soap MacTavish

Can I get you a ladder when you're tired of that cross?

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at November 09, 2012 05:04 PM (SX6wc)

303 Posted by: jeremiah God Damn Barack Obama the Mother Fucking SCoaMF wright at November 09, 2012 08:54 PM (ovpNn) Sure. Why not. (Everyone else is blameless, I guess.)

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 09, 2012 05:05 PM (uvzjj)

304 Those tactics are famous for depressing Republican turnout.

/facepalm

Posted by: Burn the Witch


You are right that more SoCon in the GOP candidate boosts SoCon base turnout.  But for every 1 additional SoCon base voter it creates, it also creates 2 additional SoLib base voters for the other side.

Posted by: cool breeze at November 09, 2012 05:05 PM (A+/8k)

305 MoveOn had Patraeus pegged after all.

Posted by: Decaf at November 09, 2012 05:05 PM (+Bpfx)

306 I'm next in line.

2016 is mine!

Posted by: Rick Santorum at November 09, 2012 05:05 PM (t7dIX)

307 My boss thinks Wolf Blitzer is the most informed voice on televisionWoman at work thinks Jon Stewart is an intellectual. Posted by: harleycowb at November 09, 2012 09:01 PM (wSTfB) And this is why we will never win again. The shit-for-brains officially outnumber is now.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 09, 2012 05:05 PM (2rMmy)

308 Posted by: Soothsayer at November 09, 2012 08:55 PM (LVtr+) What?

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 09, 2012 05:06 PM (uvzjj)

309 307 "Read about the Hurricane Sandy stories.
They're dying. Fewer Democrats committing voter fraud.
Progress.


Posted by: L, just L at November 09, 2012 08:56 PM


No. Now they'll vote straight ticket forever and ever"

Ohhhhhhh Shit!  You made me laugh. You're clever and witty.  I like you.

Posted by: L, just L at November 09, 2012 05:06 PM (0PiQ4)

310

 Is it wrong to kiss my dog on his special place?

For you, no.

Posted by: harleycowb at November 09, 2012 05:06 PM (wSTfB)

311 312 Here we go. Only 1095 days of SoCon bashing left here at AoS. Have at it, oh ye enlightened ones. Posted by: Soap MacTavish at November 09, 2012 09:02 PM (vbh31) Not this guy. I might have said one or two comments. I definately called Aiken a fucking moron. But no, SoCons, speaking for this idiot here, I take anything bad I said about you as a group back. I am sorry.

Posted by: Mr. Pink at November 09, 2012 05:06 PM (++kZl)

312 Posted by: Timmmy at November 09, 2012 08:56 PM (F1YLQ) Fuck off.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 09, 2012 05:07 PM (uvzjj)

313 Tfg effed the whole country who cares who anybody else effed and when . It's about the lying jef and thats it. Focus people. We got what the elite wanted. They are our bettors.

Posted by: Hut stricklin at November 09, 2012 05:07 PM (vd51j)

314 Posted by: cool breeze at November 09, 2012 08:56 PM (A+/8k) Which is why the Republican party has never won an election.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 09, 2012 05:08 PM (uvzjj)

315 The Stalinists saw him as another potential Eisenhower that could potentially interrupt their dynasty.

Posted by: Blackford Oakes at November 09, 2012 05:08 PM (nO18H)

316 I don't agree with the SoCon bashing. There are certain tenants of conservatism that just don't work if you remove morality and decency from the equation. The problem is that SoCons have no political intelligence, and morally pure people don't belong in modern politics anyway.

Posted by: W.H. Doubter at November 09, 2012 05:08 PM (Td9D+)

317

"We must build the New Media."

That was Breitbart's job

It's up to us to finish it.

Posted by: harleycowb at November 09, 2012 05:08 PM (wSTfB)

318 Posted by: logprof at November 09, 2012 08:56 PM (jKE+Z) Cannibalism FTW!

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 09, 2012 05:09 PM (uvzjj)

319 mama winger, stranger in a strange land at November 09, 2012 08:57 PM (P6QsQ)

That's ok. Even Jesus lost it in the Temple about the money changers.

Posted by: Jcw46 at November 09, 2012 05:09 PM (SP4jC)

320

I'd a done her too! haw haw

Posted by: Bill Clinton at November 09, 2012 05:09 PM (QX1B1)

321 You know, I don't want Rubio/Jindal/Palin ... I don't want a politician. I don't want a cult of personality and that's what they're going to turn into. I don't want an Obama. I don't care if the fucking person is bland, I just want that person to have a core set of principals and a conservative message that he believes and has lived. See, that's the key. I don't want to look at that person and see that the last couple of election cycles they've started voting the "right way." Fuck that; won't work for me. What does their whole record show. Let's run that person, just this one time. What do we have to lose.

Posted by: stourma at November 09, 2012 05:10 PM (Xf0bG)

322 And this is why we will never win again. The shit-for-brains officially outnumber is now.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 09, 2012 09:05 PM (2rMmy)

 

 

And now, according to our  wise GOP leaders and even wiser pundits, we just need be become dumber.  Embrace idiocracy Tammy!   That's the winning ticket now.  Boehner and Hannity both agree.

Posted by: Havedash at November 09, 2012 05:10 PM (ToMJU)

323 You know whats really hip?  My Lex the Impaler cast dildo.  That thing is awesome.

Posted by: Timmmy at November 09, 2012 05:10 PM (/YJYi)

324 The problem is that SoCons have no political intelligence

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Yeah.  That Scott Walker.  What a dope.

Posted by: mama winger, stranger in a strange land at November 09, 2012 05:10 PM (P6QsQ)

325 Me and Chris would have made a sammich outta her!

Posted by: Zombie Ted Kennedy at November 09, 2012 05:10 PM (QX1B1)

326 "You are right that more SoCon in the GOP candidate boosts SoCon base turnout. But for every 1 additional SoCon base voter it creates, it also creates 2 additional SoLib base voters for the other side."



Did this stat come from somewhere credible, or did it pass through a sphincter at some point?

Posted by: Burn the Witch at November 09, 2012 05:10 PM (8JpQH)

327 "286 Did I miss these goals we achieved? I am all for putting on a happy face and looking at the bright side, but WTF are they talking about? Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 09, 2012 08:54 PM (2rMmy) --------- After I screamed in his ear "ARE YOU FREAKING INSANE?? he asked me if I wanted him to continue with a list of goals they had achieved. That's when I asked him again if he was FREAKING INSANE!" Then I proceeded to give him a list of my own. It wasn't very Christian-like. I am a bad Christian tonight. Bad, but NOT FREAKING STUPID!! Posted by: mama winger, stranger in a strange land at November 09, 2012 08:57 PM (P6QsQ) " All Christians are bad Christians. That's sort of the point.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 09, 2012 05:10 PM (uvzjj)

328 300
"Some of these comments are as unhinged as the Left Wing. Get a hold of yourselves and buck up.
Posted by: Soothsayer at November 09, 2012 08:55 PM (LVtr+)

Look I know how I sound. I can detach myself from politics and look at shit rationally. I have that ability. When the leader of the Republican party, which is now John Boner, says he slept like a baby after the worst President in history gets reelected, I really don't see any recourse in caring. I mean do you realize some people actually donated their time money, and effort into this....for months? Some people on here actually cared, and the leadership says fuck you, im going to bed, and then sells them out the next day."

Posted by: Mr. Pink at November 09, 2012 09:00 PM (++kZl)

I'm with you.  I can't care anymore.  It hurts too much.  They hate us.  Hate them back.  

Posted by: L, just L at November 09, 2012 05:11 PM (0PiQ4)

329 this loss is bad but it has been compounded by the fact that everyone thought it was a done deal for the last month that's our fault for being silly enough to dismiss polls, dismiss reality, and do end zone dances everytime a poll came out in a swing state that showed Romney down only 3 points that was insane, wasn't it? it was damn crazy and the loss ended up hurting tenfold

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 09, 2012 05:11 PM (QhsAJ)

330

I donÂ’t know why this is such a big deal as Petraeus has been having a long term affair with some chick named Sharia something or other, out in the open, and nobody batted an eyelash.

His love affair with IslamÂ…you knowÂ…winning the hearts and mindsÂ….making sure troops donÂ’t pee toward Mecca,Â…making sure Muslims arenÂ’t offended by our troops presence, making sure our troops lives and limbs are subservient to every Muslim whimÂ….the kind of destructive affair where the ones you should be caring for get shafted.

Posted by: FeralCat at November 09, 2012 05:11 PM (GZmsj)

331 All Christians are bad Christians. That's sort of the point.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 09, 2012 09:10 PM (uvzjj)


-------------


You know, you're right. 

Thanks.  I mean it.

Posted by: mama winger, stranger in a strange land at November 09, 2012 05:12 PM (P6QsQ)

332 "Next election, I'm voting for whoever will go after the Media. I don't care if it's a transgendered illegal from Tijuana ." How YOU doin', baby?

Posted by: Juan-ita Hernandez at November 09, 2012 05:12 PM (5J54Q)

333 Which is why the Republican party has never won an election.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney


And why they promptly overturned Roe v. Wade when they did

Posted by: cool breeze at November 09, 2012 05:12 PM (A+/8k)

334 Posted by: torquewrench at November 09, 2012 09:04 PM (ymG7s)



The only thing you get right is that two Senate candidates torpedoed their own elections.  The numbers just don't bear you out on the national level. 



Deal with it.


Posted by: Burn the Witch at November 09, 2012 05:12 PM (8JpQH)

335 Re: The alleged Philly vote fraud. The State GOP has a small window of opportunity to do a real investigation here, since a new Dem AG was elected but won't take office until January. However, the State GOP is timid (big shocker there).One State Rep squawked about it, thd Dem Rep from that disputed area called him a racist, and that's probably it on this story. The fraud will stand, as usual.

Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at November 09, 2012 05:12 PM (yJYwC)

336 Posted by: torquewrench at November 09, 2012 09:04 PM (ymG7s)
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The word "rape" should never be uttered by a male conservative or GOP under any circumstances.  It can only get them in trouble.  Someone needs to come up with an approved sentence for them, something along the lines of "Men who commit crimes against women should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law."  Period.  It may not be fair for them not to be able to discuss it, but it''s for their own protection as well as the entire GOP party.

Posted by: Mayday at November 09, 2012 05:12 PM (F3s39)

337 Boner and Hannity that,s our flagship? We are well and truly effed. Our message is right but, the way it's presented sucks.

Posted by: Hut stricklin at November 09, 2012 05:14 PM (vd51j)

338

I donÂ’t know why this is such a big deal as Petraeus Obama has been having a
long term affair with some chick named Sharia something or other, out
in the open, and nobody batted an eyelash. 

FIFY

Posted by: harleycowb at November 09, 2012 05:14 PM (wSTfB)

339 "315 "Woman at work thinks Jon Stewart is an intellectual." Um, John Stewart is an intellectual. That's all he is really. Intellectual is not necessarily a flattering term. Posted by: W.H. Doubter at November 09, 2012 09:03 PM (Td9D+) " No. He's an imbecile.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 09, 2012 05:15 PM (uvzjj)

340

I think the problem is that there just aren't any talented conservative artists. If there were, they could squeak by the censors...moguls don't care about politics, they want the profits.

The Left has all the talent, and they win the hearts and minds of Americans through the silver screen and celebrity culture.


 

Posted by: W.H. Doubter at November 09, 2012 08:55 PM

 

Say what? I suspect that you don't know how things work in the performing arts, particularly. You've got to survive the gauntlet from the get go at the beginning for long time  before you ever get anywhere near a "mogul", or even a label or studio. It's mostly a collaborative industry, even for solo musos and actors, etc. If your views are known, good luck getting anywhere. Being merely talented isn't enough to avoid being a pariah. You have to be SO talented that they can't afford to have you working with the competition. Even then, they'll shitbag you the moment they sense an opportunity. Also, there aren't any "moguls" any more, not in the sense you're thinking of. It's not the 1930's anymore.

 

Posted by: otho at November 09, 2012 05:17 PM (yBF/9)

341 And we can't say we weren't warned. Everytime anyone expressed doubt or mentioned that a cabdidate wasn't doing well, it was Okay, Concern Troll!!11!

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 09, 2012 05:17 PM (dBRQZ)

342 #340: That's not saying a whole lot...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkDoCU09V74

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler (@ProthonotaryW) at November 09, 2012 05:17 PM (RLZvP)

343 Well that's the thing Ace. If the affair ended before Potatoes became CIA Director then why does he have to resign?

Posted by: Pyro Pete at November 09, 2012 05:18 PM (R0JuT)

344 For a while there, I was under the impression that we had forgotten how to form a circular firing squad.
--

It's been a bloody week.  Hopefully everyone is purging their bile out.  I know I can't take 4 more years of this.  Every day since Wed I've told myself I'm going to ignore the blogs, failed every day.  Not sure if it's really healthy.

Posted by: Mayday at November 09, 2012 05:18 PM (F3s39)

345 "333 Tfg effed the whole country who cares who anybody else effed and when . It's about the lying jef and thats it. Focus people. We got what the elite wanted. They are our bettors. Posted by: Hut stricklin at November 09, 2012 09:07 PM (vd51j) " We must not focus. Focusing is evil.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 09, 2012 05:18 PM (uvzjj)

346 @Soothsayer: See here's the point, my problem isn't that we might have been in a bubble here (I don't believe that by the way), it's that we can look at the election now and see that the reason we lost was that Republican voters didn't show up. That's what pisses me off the most about all this and that's why I went on my rant that it shouldn't have fucking mattered if Mitt was a die hard Conservative or not. The turn out should have been fucking huge, but for some fucked up reason we have Republicans out there that wanted the perfect candidate this time around. We didn't have that option with the core group that ran, so we choose the guy we thought could win and by all rights should have won. What I'm saying now is let's find that "perfect Conservative" that these fucking retards want and run him/her. Let's see if that person will win. Frankly, I think if we run someone who is a Conservative, has shown and can fight back against all the shit that will be heaped on them as a Conservative; they'll win. I truly believe that.

Posted by: stourma at November 09, 2012 05:18 PM (Xf0bG)

347 Zombie John Gotti Damn thats all there was to it? I really could have been the teflon don. Burn it down.

Posted by: Hut stricklin at November 09, 2012 05:19 PM (vd51j)

348

"Seriously. No. Don't even think about running any socons. Not after what just happened."

 

Since Social Conservatives were basically the largest block supporting Mitt this past Tuesday, maybe we'll do like the moderate GOPers and Paultards and Palinista's and stay home unless the GOP candidate is totally conservative. Is that ok with you?

Posted by: Dick Nixon at November 09, 2012 05:20 PM (VrVBw)

349 SS AoS First Mate: Ah, I think I see an iceberg dead ahead. AoS Captain Commenter: Shut up, concern troll!

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 09, 2012 05:20 PM (VvJwq)

350 "No, the problem is that some of you have bought into the MFM-generated meme that all we want to do is get into your bedroom at confiscate your sex toys. You reflexively view us all as a mind-numbed bunch of Aikin-bots. Surprisingly, most of us don't give a flying fuck what the hell you do on your own dime. Why in the world should we?" Straw man. Thanks for failing, see you next semester.

Posted by: W.H. Doubter at November 09, 2012 05:20 PM (Td9D+)

351 "348 300 "Some of these comments are as unhinged as the Left Wing. Get a hold of yourselves and buck up. Posted by: Soothsayer at November 09, 2012 08:55 PM (LVtr+) Look I know how I sound. I can detach myself from politics and look at shit rationally. I have that ability. When the leader of the Republican party, which is now John Boner, says he slept like a baby after the worst President in history gets reelected, I really don't see any recourse in caring. I mean do you realize some people actually donated their time money, and effort into this....for months? Some people on here actually cared, and the leadership says fuck you, im going to bed, and then sells them out the next day." Posted by: Mr. Pink at November 09, 2012 09:00 PM (++kZl) I'm with you. I can't care anymore. It hurts too much. They hate us. Hate them back. Posted by: L, just L at November 09, 2012 09:11 PM (0PiQ4) " Hatred is "not optimal." (But if it works...)

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 09, 2012 05:21 PM (uvzjj)

352 > If Petraeus had to resign because he was compromised, he was compromised months ago. Petraeus had to resign because he's a Republican. End of story.

Posted by: That Guy at November 09, 2012 05:21 PM (LmEvg)

353 Mirror universe, my point exactly. Thanks

Posted by: Hut stricklin at November 09, 2012 05:22 PM (vd51j)

354 Did this stat come from somewhere credible

Posted by: Burn the Witch


Do you have a problem with admitting there are at least as many SoLibs as SoCons these days, probably quite a few more?

Can you offer any other plausible explanation for Akin's and Mourdock's defeat?

Posted by: cool breeze at November 09, 2012 05:22 PM (A+/8k)

355 Posted by: Soothsayer at November 09, 2012 09:11 PM (QhsAJ) We had good reasons to distrust polls.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 09, 2012 05:22 PM (uvzjj)

356 Seems like Potatoes was banging a broad when he was still in the Army. Poor judgement? Ok. But how is he allowed to be at CIA for that long and just NOW deemed a security threat? When it wasn't CIA emails little Ms Homewrecker was trying to access. Trust me, CIA Directors don't use email.

Posted by: Pyro Pete at November 09, 2012 05:23 PM (R0JuT)

357 stourma, who? I can't think of anyone. we're tapped out

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 09, 2012 05:23 PM (Fely/)

358 "351 All Christians are bad Christians. That's sort of the point. Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 09, 2012 09:10 PM (uvzjj) ------------- You know, you're right. Thanks. I mean it. Posted by: mama winger, stranger in a strange land at November 09, 2012 09:12 PM (P6QsQ) "

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 09, 2012 05:23 PM (uvzjj)

359 If Sandra Fluke can testify, General Petraeus can testify.

Posted by: Rose at November 09, 2012 05:23 PM (H6Mwp)

360 Somewhere in Hell, Nikita Khrushchev is giggling like a little girl.

Posted by: blue star at November 09, 2012 05:23 PM (rmdRH)

361 @Soothsayer: I'm with you on that. Who?

Posted by: stourma at November 09, 2012 05:24 PM (Xf0bG)

362 I rarely have patience for conspiracy theories, but my guess is that they knew about it in advance, used it to "persuade" him to provide administration-friendly testimony before Congress last month, and then pulled the trigger with the threat of taking it public in order to prevent him from testifying next week. He probably figured that the blackmail would never end and that he would be a "kept" man as long as he stayed. The biggest mistake Petraeus ever made was agreeing to serve in any capacity in this administration.

Posted by: Moonbeam at November 09, 2012 05:24 PM (1k4dd)

363 Posted by: cool breeze at November 09, 2012 09:12 PM (A+/8k) Your point being? (By the way, how did that work out for us? ...)

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 09, 2012 05:24 PM (uvzjj)

364 Pussy. The Slayer Of Giants.

Posted by: Pyro Pete at November 09, 2012 05:26 PM (R0JuT)

365 Did he leave a compromised CIA chief in place?

Uhh, yeeeah.

Now what?

You think this piece of shit is accountable?

Posted by: George at November 09, 2012 05:26 PM (qBLA2)

366 "The most overused interwebz response in the history of computing. That all ya got, sparky?" Depends, you gonna come at me with something real? I defended SoCons. Your ego got in the way of admitting that Akin and Mourdock are political catastrophes.

Posted by: W.H. Doubter at November 09, 2012 05:27 PM (Td9D+)

367 Posted by: Soothsayer at November 09, 2012 09:17 PM (dBRQZ) And we had good reasons for that too.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 09, 2012 05:27 PM (uvzjj)

368 you're reasoning was flawed it was conspiracy based insane, in other words

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 09, 2012 05:27 PM (ZgBZU)

369 The woman is 21 years younger, has two kids and is married to a doctor.

Little head talking for the big head.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at November 09, 2012 05:28 PM (wR+pz)

370 "365 Well that's the thing Ace. If the affair ended before Potatoes became CIA Director then why does he have to resign? Posted by: Pyro Pete at November 09, 2012 09:18 PM (R0JuT) " Don't try to think things through. Nothing about (post)modernity makes much sense.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 09, 2012 05:28 PM (uvzjj)

371 This administration answers to hothing. Take that mitches.

Posted by: Hut stricklin at November 09, 2012 05:29 PM (vd51j)

372 And we can't say we weren't warned. Everytime anyone expressed doubt or mentioned that a cabdidate wasn't doing well, it was Okay, Concern Troll!!11!

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 09, 2012 09:17 PM (dBRQZ)

I got a lot of that whenever I tried to point out that things weren't going to be skittles and rainbows either under Romney.

Personally, I hate that THEY WON and that TFG won. And that hate and ignorance won. And as much as I was concerned about exactly how conservatively Romney would govern, I still wanted him to win.
(if i was him I'd be having a very close and personal conversation with whoever built his website, whoever signed off on it and whoever gave the go ahead without a trial run. Just sayin' their true politics might be up for question. na' mean?)

All that said, although the next 4 years will be excruciating for some of us, it wouldn't have been all that much better. Boehner would still be Boner and McConnell would still be ol' pinch face.

Lots of opportunity for mistakes and outcries of pain. Media frothing at the mouth to bring him down. Lies and fables abounding. maybe even a riot or flash mob or two.

With him out of the picture, it now becomes the Democrats game. They've gotten their wish (and we all know the admonition about that don't we) and now they have to perform.

Perhaps it's best that Boehner just roll over completely and pass anything they want. That way they can't revert to their normal blame Republican standing in his way rant.

I think his negotiating only hurts that possibility.  A part of me believes that but a part of me wants Boehner to hold the line and make them cut stuff before they get new taxes. Trouble is, I don't think he will. (he didn't before) Then we'll have a double whammy, no cuts and being blamed for obstruction.

Let. It. Burn.

Posted by: Jcw46 at November 09, 2012 05:29 PM (SP4jC)

373 The republican's are finished in Washington D. C. they won't win anything else outside state politics and that will go also when the revenge gets going against the states that voted republican.
The republican party as a contender in the future elections for the white house and Presidency is finished, kaput, done and dead.
You stupid party folks ran your last election ever and lost.
From this point on republican's will be democrats with r after their title used to make fun of or as the focus of the two minute hate.
You republican's should have run like it meant the future of your party instead of some floggin' T ball game.
Disband the party and call it the second democratic party of the USA
Your the democrats bitch now so act like it.


Posted by: HEP-T at November 09, 2012 05:30 PM (zyOCu)

374 Posted by: Soothsayer at November 09, 2012 09:20 PM (VvJwq) And your solution was?

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 09, 2012 05:31 PM (uvzjj)

375

For a while there, I was under the impression that we had forgotten how to form a circular firing squad.

 

Mullamutt, you guys may think that an affair is nothing but we women see it differently.  If you betray the person you love the most who and what else are you prepared to betray?

 

And as somebody already commented, either on this or a previous thread.  If you no longer love your spouse have the courage to end it before messing around.

Posted by: Decaf at November 09, 2012 05:32 PM (+Bpfx)

376 Then again there is Victory disease which the democrats have recently caught.
Now they cannot blame Bush it's all in their greedy little hands when it goes tits up they broke it, they bought it.

Posted by: HEP-T at November 09, 2012 05:32 PM (zyOCu)

377 Do you have a problem with admitting there are at least as many SoLibs as SoCons these days, probably quite a few more?



Can you offer any other plausible explanation for Akin's and Mourdock's defeat?


Posted by: cool breeze at November 09, 2012 09:22 PM (A+/8k)



In answer to 1), do you have some sort of real verifiable data to back up the assertion you made?  Or do you just want me to make some shit up too?  The numbers from Tuesday just don't back you up.  Not sure how else to say it.


In answer to 2), I don't deny those two were responsible for fucking their own campaigns.  What I'm saying is that they didn't  cost us at the national level.  Again, the numbers don't suggest it.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at November 09, 2012 05:33 PM (8JpQH)

378 Posted by: cool breeze at November 09, 2012 09:22 PM (A+/8k) The fact that too few people said "Hey, let's calm down and think about this rationally?"

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 09, 2012 05:34 PM (uvzjj)

379 NEWS FLASH: Women cheat too and more often.

Posted by: HEP-T at November 09, 2012 05:34 PM (zyOCu)

380 Is this the general betryayus the media spoke fondly about not that long ago? Catch me up please.

Posted by: Hut stricklin at November 09, 2012 05:35 PM (vd51j)

381 "377 Seems like Potatoes was banging a broad when he was still in the Army. Poor judgement? Ok. But how is he allowed to be at CIA for that long and just NOW deemed a security threat? When it wasn't CIA emails little Ms Homewrecker was trying to access. Trust me, CIA Directors don't use email. Posted by: Pyro Pete at November 09, 2012 09:23 PM (R0JuT) " Thinking is a bad idea. Didn't you get the memo?

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 09, 2012 05:35 PM (uvzjj)

382 396- Would you prefer to live in a state with a Republican governor or Democrat? A Republican legislature or a Democrat? To say that Republican strength at the state level is not worthwhile is somewhat short-sighted. Also, remember, Republicans didn't hold a majority in Congress for 40 years prior to 1996. What you are saying now is exactly what Democrats were saying in 2004. Buck up, Francis.

Posted by: Moonbeam at November 09, 2012 05:35 PM (1k4dd)

383 "381 Somewhere in Hell, Nikita Khrushchev is giggling like a little girl. Posted by: blue star at November 09, 2012 09:23 PM (rmdRH) " THIS.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 09, 2012 05:35 PM (uvzjj)

384 "384 I rarely have patience for conspiracy theories, but my guess is that they knew about it in advance, used it to "persuade" him to provide administration-friendly testimony before Congress last month, and then pulled the trigger with the threat of taking it public in order to prevent him from testifying next week. He probably figured that the blackmail would never end and that he would be a "kept" man as long as he stayed. The biggest mistake Petraeus ever made was agreeing to serve in any capacity in this administration. Posted by: Moonbeam at November 09, 2012 09:24 PM (1k4dd) " Hypotheses.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 09, 2012 05:36 PM (uvzjj)

385 397- Decaf- seemed to work out pretty well for Bill and Hill.

Posted by: Moonbeam at November 09, 2012 05:37 PM (1k4dd)

386 #368: I don't know if I'd say they were mad at an imperfect candidate. I think it's more likely that they were just sick of the party establishment picking our candidate in election after election. That candidate is always more of a moderate type, and he's generally willing to burn bridges to win the primary but then tries to make nice with his opponent in the general. And he loses.

Romney was at least willing to criticize Obama, but still not as harshly as he criticized his primary opponents. He still talked about what a nice guy Obama is.

People eventually get sick of supporting a party whose establishment seems to like its opponents more than it does the party base.

I think that's the reason so few Republicans turned out this year. It's been a steady decline since '04.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler (@ProthonotaryW) at November 09, 2012 05:37 PM (RLZvP)

387 "388 "The most overused interwebz response in the history of computing. That all ya got, sparky?" Depends, you gonna come at me with something real? I defended SoCons. Your ego got in the way of admitting that Akin and Mourdock are political catastrophes. Posted by: W.H. Doubter at November 09, 2012 09:27 PM (Td9D+) " Sure. It was "ego." (And you're humble.)

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 09, 2012 05:37 PM (uvzjj)

388 Posted by: Soothsayer at November 09, 2012 09:27 PM (ZgBZU) You're extremely rational... (And intelligent.)

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 09, 2012 05:38 PM (uvzjj)

389 406- I know that's all they are, but was I the only one wondering "Where the hell is Petraeus?" when it became clear that the annex in Benghazi was a clandestine CIA operation and he was nowhere to be found?

Posted by: Moonbeam at November 09, 2012 05:39 PM (1k4dd)

390 "391 The woman is 21 years younger, has two kids and is married to a doctor. Little head talking for the big head. Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at November 09, 2012 09:28 PM (wR+pz) " That happens quite often.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 09, 2012 05:39 PM (uvzjj)

391 If you betray the person you love the most who and what else are you prepared to betray?
Posted by: Decaf at November 09, 2012 09:32 PM (+Bpfx)

Who said he loved his wife the most? Now. Who says that cheating is an indicator that you will do something else wrong?

Just being a human being is enough evidence that someone will do something wrong in their life. EVERYONE HAS. Even Jesus.(part of being human)

Why is there little condemnation of the woman who did the same over him? Propinquity is a powerful aphrodisiac especially for those who have an affinity and/or much in common.

Women have NOOO problem hooking up with guys that cheat. Neither do men. Happens thousand of times a day.

Posted by: Jcw46 at November 09, 2012 05:39 PM (SP4jC)

392 Your point being?
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney


Simply that there are now at least as many SoLib voters as SoCon voters, probably quite a few more, and that an "energize the SoCon base" strategy energizes at least as many SoLib voters, probably more, and is therefore self defeating.

It may have worked 8, 12 or 28 years ago, but not anymore.  Those days are gone forever.

Posted by: cool breeze at November 09, 2012 05:40 PM (A+/8k)

393 "397 For a while there, I was under the impression that we had forgotten how to form a circular firing squad. Mullamutt, you guys may think that an affair is nothing but we women see it differently. If you betray the person you love the most who and what else are you prepared to betray? And as somebody already commented, either on this or a previous thread. If you no longer love your spouse have the courage to end it before messing around. Posted by: Decaf at November 09, 2012 09:32 PM (+Bpfx) " And you're wrong. (Because that's not how the male mind thinks.)

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 09, 2012 05:41 PM (uvzjj)

394 233 I am not a social conservative, but come one, can we stop trying to blame them. Romney lost for a lot of reasons.......his vaunted OCRA crapped out, the media carried Obama's water, Mormonism, Sandy and yes, a very large segment of our society wants FREE SHIT.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at November 09, 2012 08:48 PM (OWjjx)

 

God damn it, Romney did NOT "lose"! It was stolen! It has nothing to do with too many "takers" wanting "free shit"; Romney WON. Let me repeat: Romney WON. God. Do some research.  Pundit's Press has some great articles on counties in OH having 108% voter turnout and some counties voting for O at 100%. Then there's CO where ten counties had up to 140% turnout. Then there's Philly where it was 90% turnout and 99% voted for O (with the NBPP keeping watch). And there's always the UR with "Insider". Educate yourself.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at November 09, 2012 05:41 PM (KL49F)

395 "Mullamutt, you guys may think that an affair is nothing but we women see it differently. If you betray the person you love the most who and what else are you prepared to betray?" Oh please, women are notorious for having affairs and then justifying them afterwards. "It just happened" LOL

Posted by: W.H. Doubter at November 09, 2012 05:43 PM (Td9D+)

396 Decaf - Mullamutt, you guys may think that an affair is nothing but we women see it differently. If you betray the person you love the most who and what else are you prepared to betray?

Clinton got a higher percentage of the female vote both times than Bush and Dole got of the male vote.

Posted by: boulder hobo should quit reading Bloodlands at November 09, 2012 05:45 PM (QTHTd)

397 Posted by: cool breeze at November 09, 2012 09:40 PM (A+/8k) No. Read your own post.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 09, 2012 05:45 PM (uvzjj)

398 Among what I should quit reading is any book about math...

Posted by: boulder hobo at November 09, 2012 05:46 PM (QTHTd)

399 "417 I defended SoCons. Your ego got in the way of admitting that Akin and Mourdock are political catastrophes. First off, I wasn't referring to you, personally. The use of the second-person personal pronoun was perhaps unwise. And I never defended either Aikin or Mourdock. Their collective foolishness certainly doesn't qualify as crimes against humanity, but even a strawman like myself will readily acknowledge it caused more than a little damage. Posted by: Soap MacTavish at November 09, 2012 09:42 PM (vbh31) " The Media caused the damage. Intentionally.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 09, 2012 05:47 PM (uvzjj)

400 The fact that too few people said "Hey, let's calm down and think about this rationally?"
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney

Hey!  I didn't say they were rational, I said they were SoLibs!  Of course they voted with their vajayjays rather than their brains.

Posted by: cool breeze at November 09, 2012 05:48 PM (A+/8k)

401 "423 The fact that too few people said "Hey, let's calm down and think about this rationally?" Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney Hey! I didn't say they were rational, I said they were SoLibs! Of course they voted with their vajayjays rather than their brains. Posted by: cool breeze at November 09, 2012 09:48 PM (A+/8k) " We should have "forced" them to be rational. Instead, our first instinct was to shoot each other.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 09, 2012 05:50 PM (uvzjj)

402 422- More to the point, the media laid the groundwork for the damage to be done, beginning with Georgie-boy's question re: contraception in the Republican primary debate.

Posted by: Moonbeam at November 09, 2012 05:50 PM (1k4dd)

403 "425 422- More to the point, the media laid the groundwork for the damage to be done, beginning with Georgie-boy's question re: contraception in the Republican primary debate. Posted by: Moonbeam at November 09, 2012 09:50 PM (1k4dd) " Yep. The sons of bitches set us up too.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 09, 2012 05:53 PM (uvzjj)

404 Things around this White House make the Kremlin look like a model of stability as Beria and all the other ghouls were pushing and shoving to see who would succeed Uncle Joe.  Welcome to the early 1950's in Moscow. Obozo is a time traveler.  Lot of different things going bump in the night.  Yes indeed.

Posted by: Comanche Voter at November 09, 2012 05:53 PM (oe1aw)

405 We should have "forced" them to be rational.
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney

If anyone knows how to force Libs to be rational they should be dictator-for-life of the GOP.

Until then, we have to figure out a strategy that motivates our people without motivating at least as many of their people.

Posted by: cool breeze at November 09, 2012 05:54 PM (A+/8k)

406 427 Progress! The Soviet Union is the society/state/wave of the future.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 09, 2012 05:55 PM (uvzjj)

407 428 It starts with us staying calm and circling the wagons (rationally), instead of trying to eat each other.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 09, 2012 05:57 PM (uvzjj)

408 And that strategy would be Christianity. Incredible, I know.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 09, 2012 05:58 PM (uvzjj)

409 432 Ok, what's the pattern?

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 09, 2012 05:59 PM (uvzjj)

410 Well then.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 09, 2012 06:00 PM (uvzjj)

411 Hey, Comanche Voter, do you ever read badeagle.com? You might like it. It's run by a conservative Comanche named David Yeagley. I mainly check in with him when something Indian-related makes national news.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler (@ProthonotaryW) at November 09, 2012 06:01 PM (RLZvP)

412 I think I'm going to call it a night. Later, all. And God bless.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 09, 2012 06:01 PM (uvzjj)

413 Good night, Moomer!

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler (@ProthonotaryW) at November 09, 2012 06:02 PM (RLZvP)

414 Yep. The sons of bitches set us up too.
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney

They sure did.  And they knew exactly what they were doing.

It started with going after Santorum in the primaries.  They knew he was inclined to say goofy things about contraception that would alienate far more voters than they would gain.

That is what I have been trying to point out all along: there are some SoCon views that alienate far more voters than they energize these days.  We can't run on those views, even if they do energize our SoCon base.

Posted by: cool breeze at November 09, 2012 06:06 PM (A+/8k)

415

Remember when Petraeus pissed off Coburn & even McCain during the "closed door briefing" by sticking to the video story? I'm betting Axelshaft was holding the FBI report of the affair over General Ps' head. The Gen. went along before the election because the Congresspussies didn't put him under oath. In the upcoming hearing there were going to be potential perjury charges if he lied under oath, so the Gen. outed himself to his wife and then resigned rather than betray the CIA and walk the plank himself.

It's simple really; to figure these guys out just imagine the sleaziest, most despicable thing you can think of, and then follow the taxpayer dough crumbs to Chez Chicago East (it's the big white house with the guards out front).

As an aside, why the General would associate himself with this sleazeball regime is beyond me ... his reputation is now forever diminished.

Posted by: Jim Denney at November 09, 2012 06:11 PM (RdSg8)

416 why the General would associate himself with this sleazeball regime is beyond me ... his reputation is now forever diminished.
Posted by: Jim Denney

They had the dirt on the affair on Petraeus BEFORE he moved from the Army to the CIA.

I'm not normally inclined to conspiracy theories, but this is the Chicago Mafia we are talking about.

Posted by: cool breeze at November 09, 2012 06:17 PM (A+/8k)

417 Ace, you're now just a marginalized conspiracy nut. Guy's the head of the CIA - a frickin' spy agency. The CIA scans for bugs CONSTANTLY. Of coure they scan the head guy's stuff too. And ... someone finds several exchanges of private emails from a secure line that really oughtta notta be there and, um, investigates. That's not POTUS worthy, that's CIA Inspector General worthy. The POTUS angle here comes through the wife, cuz she worked for Elizabeth Warren the last time when Warren was working in the TARP commission and then when Warren was lobbying up Dodd-Frank and doing the nomination confirmation rounds, and now is RUNNING the military contact section of the CFPB. So, someone in the internal investigation says, Boss, this falls into the stuff that chief counsel needs to know, that top brass here needs to know, that the Inspector General MUST get told, and we're here to tell you right now, we've got no choice in this, but you got a little time to do whatever you think is right. Suggesting Obama was sitting on this for years is pure irresponsibility and also a pure violation of Occam's Razor ... look it up. Ace, you've gone beyond being a joke; you're now into self-parody. I guarantee you this: IN YOUR LIFETIME, what remains of it, exactly no Republicans will get elected into the White House so long as you Ace remain the way you've been in this election year since May, the way you've been in the last two days after ONE FRICKIN' DAY of post-election lucidity, and thereby reflecting the conservative, right, Republican world view. Ace, you've become one of those guys HL Mencken used to mock: a hack.

Posted by: Rex the Wonder God at November 09, 2012 06:20 PM (21TJo)

418

Clinton got a higher percentage of the female vote both times than Bush and Dole got of the male vote.

 

Would that be the same single female demographic that voted for Obama in droves?

Posted by: Decaf at November 09, 2012 06:21 PM (+Bpfx)

419 Rex the Wonder God, you're ridiculous.

Posted by: Travis at November 09, 2012 06:27 PM (9WkMB)

420 I'm just trying to figure out who would have brass nads enough to threaten the director of the CIA with blackmail over a garden variety sexual affair.it doesn't make sense other than its the administration trying to make petraeus quitely go away

Posted by: kj at November 09, 2012 06:30 PM (qEts0)

421 357 For a while there, I was under the impression that we had forgotten how to form a circular firing squad. It is just like riding a bike. Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at November 09, 2012 09:13 PM (OWjjx) Not me. I'm just stating my thoughts. Not hating on anyone here. Or even trying to pursuade them.

Posted by: Mr pink at November 09, 2012 06:33 PM (Zzyhu)

422

I just got home from work and haven't read all the comments, but my heart hurts a little that Petraeus was even involved in this skeezy administration.  Everyone the administration touches turns to shit.


I find it hard to believe that this isn't some cover up so Petraeus takes the fall for Benghazi and he's falling on his sword for the stuttering clusterfuck.  I wouldn't that's for sure and bullshit that he wasn't pressured, the white house cook was probably holding the man's dog hostage until he quit.

Posted by: Jaimo at November 09, 2012 06:37 PM (QbT5V)

423 444  I agree.  Although there are obviously some sharp differences in this thread, I thought that the vast majority on all sides were relatively thoughtful and respectful, not a circular firing squad.

Posted by: cool breeze at November 09, 2012 06:43 PM (A+/8k)

424 57 Gingrich.....really.

Look, if we were gonna lose, we should have just nominated Empire of Jeff. We would have gotten all the snark plus he probably would have ran over a union protestor to boot.

this

look, if there's one thing liberals understand, it's ridicule.  part of what gabe was hinting at the other day with the "we lost a PR contest" without including the fact that free shit pretty much always wins.  but if we're not going to be the party of free shit, we must be the party of harsher snark.  one, because liberals and liberalish recognize it, and become emotional when it's flung in their face.  frankly, they rarely have to deal with it because no one on the GOP side is too interested in snark since they're, you know, trying to get shit done instead of trying to hand it out.  it pretty much explains the whole joe biden thing and also why gingrich is so effective.  gingrich can pretty much run over anyone by shoving what they are completely unprepared to answer down their throats.

Posted by: matt foley at November 09, 2012 06:51 PM (ES9kw)

425 look, if valerie plame can = 007 then petraeus is resigning to avoid testifying, OR to avoid dealing with the administration when testifying.  obama didn't have to sit on it for years, but coming right after the election?  you've got to be kidding me.  this stinks all over and is nowhere near the kind of logical backflip you have to make to turn valerie plame into a super spy whose secret identity held the key to the entire CIA NOC list.

occam's razor and shit.  look it up.

Posted by: matt foley at November 09, 2012 07:03 PM (ES9kw)

426 I'd hit it!

Posted by: Zombie Ted Kennedy at November 09, 2012 07:25 PM (QX1B1)

427 Did you see Pete Hoekstra's tweet? He was running for senate in my state, Michigan this year. He was a longtime congressman on the intelligence committee. He's been out for a few years, but I'm sure he still has contacts. "Pete Hoekstra ‏@petehoekstra Patreaus resignation will get worse. There's more here than meets the eye."

Posted by: Lara at November 09, 2012 07:33 PM (TgSwQ)

428 OMG Ace is a hack?! Oh snap! Rex you nailed it. Wow! Ouch! Oof! Shazam!

Posted by: Separate at November 09, 2012 07:43 PM (htjRn)

429

Momma Winger and all those who responded to her . . ."I'm out, out, out of the Republican Party".

How about organizing an effort to make a very loud statement the RINO GOP cannot pretend not to hear?  I'm suggesting responding in kind - RINO led GOP  ignored and sidelined Conservatives for several election cycles. 

 

Return the favor & get back our self respect and reinstate our integrity.  

How?

All dissatisfied voters who are registered Republican resign from the Republican party en-masse by Christmas.

Posted by: wtd at November 09, 2012 07:51 PM (y7c1A)

430 "Scandal"....guess the General did not text Olivia!

Posted by: Betty Kohn at November 09, 2012 08:23 PM (hntqD)

431 I thought the scandal couldn't get any worse--I was wrong!! When I first saw this article I thought that Petraeus was entrapped, then forced to resign. He maybe had the affair then the administration decided to force him to resign. The timing is all too pat. Your comments are right on.

Posted by: Susan at November 09, 2012 09:02 PM (jpnyE)

432 Petraeus has been extorted for a couple of years now, since his subordinate McChrystal made light of Biden and got fired by Obama, then Obama demoted Petraeus to fill his former subordinates position (punishment?).

Odd enough that Petraeus sucked Obama and took the demotion even though he could have walked away into full retirement, even odder that Obama later leapfrogged him to Director CIA.

Posted by: Rmoney Voter at November 09, 2012 09:40 PM (JtyGg)

433 This mess explains, at least in part, why Petraeus backed the Administration Benghazi coverup story blaming the embassy attack and the deaths of the ambassador and three others by a 'spontaneous mob' enraged by a 14-minute YouTube video. Petraeus goes along, his mistress isn't prosecuted for attempting to access sensitive emails (and possibly other information). Which begs the question: why in the world would she do such a thing? One doesn't innocently access the files of a CIA Director. Who knows? Maybe the Russians have actually started fielding spies who aren't incredible fuckups. So profoundly disappointed in Petraeus. He forgot the first rule for any keeper of the secrets: keep it clean in your personal life and do not allow yourself to become compromised.

Posted by: troyriser at November 09, 2012 10:09 PM (ptcFO)

434 Anybody else wondering what retributions are, at this very hour, being pondered for Jennifer Griffin of Fox and Sharyl Atkisson of CBS? Or their sources?

Posted by: letitbeme at November 09, 2012 10:28 PM (i5FjP)

435 So the smoking gun here is . . . Obama might have known about another man's extramarital affair? WHOA. Devastating. Clinton is well liked right now and he, himself, had an affair. You guys are losing your damn minds.

Posted by: a at November 09, 2012 10:32 PM (EXcYl)

436 440 Posted by: Rex the Wonder God at November 09, 2012 10:20 PM (21TJo)- I   think you're being unfair to Ace.

Posted by: Baldy at November 10, 2012 02:03 AM (b+m13)

437 I hope you are not holding your breath waiting on the GOP wusses in Congress to grow a spine and actually make him testify. You'll end up awfully blue in the face.

Would the last person out of the GOP please turn out the lights?

Posted by: davidinvirginia at November 10, 2012 02:34 AM (qEkGZ)

438 How convenient for the messiah© that everyone associated with Benghazi is leaving or resigning.

Posted by: hannity sucks at November 10, 2012 09:24 AM (Kflw4)

439 I think I will follow the KSU and Alabama games today.
It has been a bad week. I have been upset. Apple pie and ice cream helped.

Looking west a socialist wasteland, looking east at burned out villages and down below the women being led off. 


Posted by: Mountains Landbarons and Serfs at November 10, 2012 09:46 AM (Xx7iB)

440

So what if Patreaus did whatever he did. According to the 50+% of Americans who voted for the reelection of the worst President in the US for 200 years - it really does not matter.

All that matters is that they have been now promised 4 more years of freeness. More welfare, more lack of personal responsibility, moer choice to kill unborn children after the choice to have more sex.

They could care less about whether or not a General has sex on his watch - after all isn't that what they are doing themselves?

Quite frankly I could not care less what this clown does - after all he chose to work with Obama - and people like him do exactly what he just did.

All we do know is that there will be more clowns like this coming out of the woodwork, there will be more unemployment and the National Debt will br $20 trillion in 2016 and the Republicans will still hand the Presidency to the Democrats on a platter.

Goodby America !

Posted by: joe at November 10, 2012 01:04 PM (DVEeq)

441 I'm late to the game on this, but what about the possibility that the Zero Machine set him up to remove any possibility of a political future.  Frankly, I've always suspected Petraeus is actually a semi-liberal (i.e. Colin Powell), but I'm guessing the Donks viewed him as a political threat regardless.  Especially since they don't have the time for old-school libs anymore, and much prefer the Saul Alinskyite Hidden Dragon over such archaic Crouching Tigers.

I hate to be so cynical...

Posted by: Vercingetorix at November 10, 2012 05:22 PM (5qcd7)

442 Obama knew long ago..after all the Director of the CIA has to be vetted and have background checks every step of the way...they take polygraph tests as well and are asked about things such as a marital affair. Please...Obama held this card up his sleeve for a LONG time...he held it until he knew it could be useful to him. In order to stop Petraeus from testifying TRUTHFULLY before Congress, Obama played the card with him...AFTER the election but BEFORE the date of the Congressional investigation. The administration is covering up BIG TIME. Had it come out before the election, the outcome would have been different

Posted by: Paddy at November 10, 2012 05:34 PM (J0wdh)

443 of course. OBAMA knew. why do you think this came out after the election? let's start impeachment procedings.

Posted by: jonny rocket at November 14, 2012 09:22 AM (Yn1MD)

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