March 18, 2012

Why does this smack of "Atlas Shrugged"? [Fritzworth]
— Open Blogger

Drudge and Memorandum both had links to an executive order issued by Pres. Obama on Friday. It appears to have to do with delineating responsibilities among Cabinet members during times of emergency, so I chuckled in light of the mocking of the MSM over the efforts of various states (such as Wyoming) to do the same thing.

But then I read the following paragraph and wondered if there might be more to this directive than meets the eye. Note the highlighted language:


PART II - PRIORITIES AND ALLOCATIONS

Sec. 201. Priorities and Allocations Authorities. (a) The authority of the President conferred by section 101 of the Act, 50 U.S.C. App. 2071, to require acceptance and priority performance of contracts or orders (other than contracts of employment) to promote the national defense over performance of any other contracts or orders, and to allocate materials, services, and facilities as deemed necessary or appropriate to promote the national defense, is delegated to the following agency heads:

(1) the Secretary of Agriculture with respect to food resources, food resource facilities, livestock resources, veterinary resources, plant health resources, and the domestic distribution of farm equipment and commercial fertilizer;

(2) the Secretary of Energy with respect to all forms of energy;

(3) the Secretary of Health and Human Services with respect to health resources;

(4) the Secretary of Transportation with respect to all forms of civil transportation;

(5) the Secretary of Defense with respect to water resources; and

(6) the Secretary of Commerce with respect to all other materials, services, and facilities, including construction materials.

(b) The Secretary of each agency delegated authority under subsection (a) of this section (resource departments) shall plan for and issue regulations to prioritize and allocate resources and establish standards and procedures by which the authority shall be used to promote the national defense, under both emergency and non-emergency conditions. Each Secretary shall authorize the heads of other agencies, as appropriate, to place priority ratings on contracts and orders for materials, services, and facilities needed in support of programs approved under section 202 of this order.

Haven't had time to analyze the whole thing yet, but that II.b clause gives me a bit of pause for thought, particularly talking about Cabinet secretaries issuing "regulations to prioritize resources" under "non-emergency conditions" in the name of "national defense".

For those of you who don't have the time or willpower to read Atlas Shrugged, let me give you a few quotes from that all-too-prescient novel. First, in response to the invention of "Rearden Metal", the creation of the John Galt railroad line between the East Coast and Colorado, and the subsequent relocation of businesses from the East Coast to Colorado:


The Union of Locomotive Engineers was demanding that the maximum speed of all trains on the John Galt Line be reduced to sixty miles per hour. The Union of Railway Conductors and Breakmen was demanding that the length of all freight trains on the John Galt Line be reduced to sixty cars.

The states of Wyoming, New Mexico, Utah and Arizona were demanding that the number of trains run in Colorado not exceed the number of trains run in each of those neighboring states.

A group headed by Orren Boyle was demanding the passage of a Preservation of Livelihood Law, which would limit the production of Rearden Metal to an amount equal to the output of any other steel mill of equal plant capacity.

A group headed by Mr. Mowen was demanding the passage of a Fair Share Law to give every customer who wanted it an equal supply of Rearden Metal.

A group headed by Bertram Scudder was demanding the passage of a Public Stability Law, forbidding Eastern business firms to move out of their states.

Wesley Mouch, Top Co-Ordinator of the [Federal] Bureau of Economic Planning and National Resources [think: Tim Geithner at Treasury], was issuing a great many statements, the content and purpose of which could not be defined, except that the words “emergency powers” and “unbalanced economy” kept appearing in the text every few lines. (p. 299)

And as the country is falling apart later on:


Six weeks ago, Train Number 193 had been sent with a load of steel, not to Faulkton, Nebraska, where the Spencer Machine Tool Company, the best machine tool concern still in existence, had been idle for two weeks, waiting for the shipment — but to Sand Creek, Illinois, where Confederated Machines had been wallowing in debt for over a year, producing unreliable goods at unpredictable times. The steel had been allocated by a directive which explained that the Spencer Machine Tool Company was a rich concern, able to wait, while Confederate Machines was bankrupt and could not be allowed to collapse, being the sole source of livelihood of the community of Sand Creek, Illlinois. The Spencer Machine Tool Company had closed a month ago. Confederated Machines had closed two weeks later.

The people of Sand Creek, Illinois, had been placed on national relief, but no food could be found for them in the empty granaries of the nation at the frantic call of the moment — so the seed grain of the farmers of Nebraska had been seized by order of the Unification Board — and Train Number 194 had carried the unplanted harvest and the future of the people of Nebraska to be consumed by the people of Illinois. “In this enlightened age,” Eugene Lawson had said in a radio broadcast, “we have come, at last, to realize that each of of us is his brother’s keeper.” (p. 911)

I am not a paranoid man by nature, and I firmly believe in checks and balances and in the Syrup of Ipecac theory of political dynamics. But I think this executive order -- part of a Friday night document dump (and pre-St. Paddy's day, at that) -- is worthy of more careful scrutiny. ..fritz..


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1 I shudder for our Republic.

Posted by: In Exile at March 18, 2012 06:04 AM (Cv2k3)

2 also, in what language is II.b comprehensible? I sounds exactly like the wishy-washy drivel of those with bad intentions. Ambiguity in law it the wet dream of tyrants.

Posted by: In Exile at March 18, 2012 06:06 AM (Cv2k3)

3 Ambiguity in law it is the wet dream of tyrants.

Posted by: In Exile at March 18, 2012 06:06 AM (Cv2k3)

4 Atlas Shrugged just showed up on Netflix this week.  I started it, but it was a little slow will try again.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at March 18, 2012 06:07 AM (Cydud)

5 your not being paranoid when they really are out to get you.

Posted by: trailortrash at March 18, 2012 06:09 AM (xllDV)

6 @4 The book is fantastic but a long read. I have been afraid to watch the movie, as I am worried that it won't live up to the novel.

Posted by: In Exile at March 18, 2012 06:09 AM (Cv2k3)

7 If the dems maintain control, expect "emergencies" every few weeks until all the federal agencies trump the state laws recently implemented to keep this exact thing from happening. Supreme court? In the Dem's pocket with possibly three vacancies next term.

Posted by: Dax at March 18, 2012 06:09 AM (K55Vw)

8 Also, why is defense over water?

Posted by: lauren at March 18, 2012 06:09 AM (FWmqm)

9 It's like we are stuck in a horrible alternate universe. What kind of tw@t comes up with executive orders like these? It simply sounds like the work of a tyrant, not a president. Even if the president never acts on these orders, I just simply don't understand the purpose in the first place.

Posted by: In Exile at March 18, 2012 06:10 AM (Cv2k3)

10 Bomb, bomb, bomb; bomb, bomb Iran?

Posted by: Ricks26 at March 18, 2012 06:12 AM (G3SBW)

11 It's about time all this executive order shit gets stopped. That authority is not granted to the executive branch in the Constitution. The SC should void all of them and set a precedent for them to never be issued again with a big freaking reminder of the limitations of power set by the Constitution.

Posted by: BlueFalcon in Boston would be forever alone without AoS at March 18, 2012 06:13 AM (ijjAe)

12 At least it and all the other ones will expire in about 335 days.

Posted by: Jimmah at March 18, 2012 06:15 AM (vj51i)

13 You'll excuse me if I'm disinclined to trust a man who says and has demonstrated that he fundamentally wants to change America.

Posted by: BobH at March 18, 2012 06:17 AM (toieU)

14 Cad-di-lac Don't talk back.

Posted by: Steven Chu at March 18, 2012 06:18 AM (+6ZZN)

15 This EO is based on a 50s era defense law.  Every President since then has issue a similar order. Its just that Obama has really stretched it in his order and it appears he has exceeded the authority granted in the original order.

The reason for the law was fear of a Soviet nuclear attack and the ability to keep government functioning after the attack.  We no longer need this law and it is time for congress to repeal it. 

But as long as they hold the Senate and Obama is in office that will never happen.

Posted by: Vic at March 18, 2012 06:19 AM (YdQQY)

16 This whole fucking administration smacks of Atlas Shrugged.

Posted by: Andy at March 18, 2012 06:19 AM (XG+Mn)

17 Barrack Hussein Mugabe

Posted by: White Farmer at March 18, 2012 06:19 AM (xYZnb)

18 These may be updates to similar orders, however, this administration has been pretty clear about who they want running everything and it isn't us. So I put it in the suspect category until shown innocuous.

Posted by: mare at March 18, 2012 06:19 AM (A98Xu)

19 <i>lauren: Also, why is defense over water?</i>

Yeah, I wondered that myself. ..fritz..

Posted by: fritzworth at March 18, 2012 06:22 AM (7svyX)

20

Sheik Abdul Aziz bin Needagoat Abdullah Cocksuckenstein, the grand mufti of Saudi Arabia, declared that it is “necessary to destroy all the churches of the region.” The ruling came in response to a query from a Kuwaiti delegation over proposed legislation to prevent construction of churches in the emirate. The mufti based his decision on a story that on his deathbed, Muhammad declared, “There are not to be two religions in the [Arabian] Peninsula.”

----

Crickets.

Posted by: Jimmah at March 18, 2012 06:24 AM (vj51i)

21 I assume that Defense gets water because they can 1) protect and 2) distribute At lots of large public events, the National Guard handles water type stuff.

Posted by: In Exile at March 18, 2012 06:25 AM (Cv2k3)

22

I read Obamas power grab last night and I thought the same thing. This is like reading Atlas Shrugged only with a little more detail.

 

I don't understand how this is legal. Even in Atlas Shrugged they had to get congress to pass it.

Posted by: robtr at March 18, 2012 06:27 AM (MtwBb)

23 Could it be that all those people that have stocked up on guns and ammo might not be as silly as the lame stream media have suggested? Nah, just look the other way as a Dem engineered "situation" (kristallnacht anyone?) causes declaration of marshal law just before an election that the deified one might lose. It might be way out there but with every passing "order" by the administration they do nothing but make it seem more likely that something will be engineered this summer. mpw

Posted by: mpw280 at March 18, 2012 06:29 AM (KeFWZ)

24 ...because if you control the water you control thec people.

Posted by: MitchM at March 18, 2012 06:29 AM (ofp2w)

25 the

Posted by: MitchM at March 18, 2012 06:29 AM (ofp2w)

26 Laws define the values of Society? Wrong. Laws demonstrate the relative amounts of campaign contributions.

Posted by: Asscheeks of Saturn at March 18, 2012 06:33 AM (0TdUk)

27 Defense over water to keep the CA farmers from irrigating their fields? Go green, and use the military to enforce it.

Posted by: Dax at March 18, 2012 06:35 AM (K55Vw)

28 From the definitions section of the XO:

(n)  "Water resources" means all usable water, from all sources, within the jurisdiction of the United States, that can be managed, controlled, and allocated to meet emergency requirements, except "water resources" does not include usable water that qualifies as "food resources."


Posted by: Retread at March 18, 2012 06:36 AM (joSBv)

29 Ok I feel better now. Ed Morrisey has a column on this and says it's nothing to worry about and that a President Santorum would never use it to confiscate all of the latex.

Posted by: robtr at March 18, 2012 06:37 AM (MtwBb)

30 I don't know, I am not a lawyer so maybe there are legalspeak implications I don't understand but to my reading all this says is that contracts which impact national defense get priority over other contracts.  I don't foresee some sort of ominous powergrab but more likely all of a sudden a lot of government contracts will have national defense justification clauses written into them.  Of course I am a subscriber to Occam's razor and to the idea that most "conspiracies" are really just the result of people being either too stupid or too lazy to do a job right and that leaves things open for idle minds to run wild.

Frankly, I have been coming here for going on 10 years now and for the most part I avoid the comments section anymore because of the constant birther/truther/"tenther"/obama is a sleeper agent for evil agency x bullshit.  Grow up you stupid fucks.  If Obama destroys the republic it's not going to be because he was some sort of supersecret Muslim/Communist bred from the start of the 60's to be president (a time when Blacks couldn't even share a bathroom with Whites in many states).  It will be because he and his supporters/subordinates subscribe to a disproven political and economic theory.  THAT'S what you should be concentrating on.  Not making up bullshit like this and running around chanting Obama is a SCOAMF or Obama is a SCOAMT.  I don't know why Ace won't just come out and say it , but there I have.

Posted by: chad at March 18, 2012 06:38 AM (a/nZ0)

31 This is why preppers shouldn't go around letting everybody know they've got a basement full of food. If you ever actually needed it, it's likely there'd be anti-hoarding laws, and the next thing you know the police/army comes around to confiscate and re-distribute "fairly".

Posted by: Heorot at March 18, 2012 06:39 AM (m2aLJ)

32

He lets us use his water. You'd think people would be thanking him.

Posted by: Jimmah at March 18, 2012 06:39 AM (vj51i)

33 “In this enlightened age,” Eugene Lawson had said in a radio broadcast, “we have come, at last, to realize that each of of us is his brother’s keeper.”

And which sanctimonious turd have we heard mouthing this "scripture"?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at March 18, 2012 06:41 AM (lce0m)

34 I find it difficult to not believe it is some kind of power grab for the benefit of the progressives. As we have seen they are really big into changing law to suit their needs. One thing that can be said is they are certainly as a steamrioller grabbing every loose thing not nailed down for someones benefit on their side.

Posted by: willow at March 18, 2012 06:42 AM (TomZ9)

35 Tut tut. Been done before. Old history, I say. Just a flesh wound. Turn your head and cough. It'll only sting for a second. Check is in the mail.


Posted by: pipe-puffing aristocrat at March 18, 2012 06:43 AM (+LCjv)

36 I'm sure they will use all these resources for the good of  the children. and we know they are always fair, and reasoned .

Posted by: willow at March 18, 2012 06:45 AM (TomZ9)

37 oil companies, nice business you got there?

Posted by: willow at March 18, 2012 06:45 AM (TomZ9)

38 I guess Michelle will get all the tamales!
heh

Posted by: willow at March 18, 2012 06:47 AM (TomZ9)

39 It's the sentence following the one highlighted that tells the story. Each Secretary shall authorize the heads of other agencies, as appropriate, to place priority ratings on contracts and orders for materials, services, and facilities needed in support of programs approved under section 202 of this order. The pending "non-emergency" is sudden federal fiscal doom (maybe a government shutdown, maybe a sudden inability to make the eagle shit for the dependent underclass on the first of the month). The "priority ratings" are how Obama's cronies will be assured a place at the trough. It goes without saying that Obama's political opponents will be left out in the cold. His problem is that even then, there will not be enough left over to satisfy all of the competing grievance factions that came together to put him where he is. Obama is hanging the question out there for his would-be cronies: How much love can you show me? And, since it's ostensibly related to national defense, Obama can say whatever the hell he wants to the knobgobblers competing for his affection while claiming that the actual priority ratings must be kept secret.

Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at March 18, 2012 06:48 AM (p7SSh)

40 #30, probably not a power grab for tyranny, but given this administration's corruption & cronyism I could see this wording be used to bully specific companies and reward favorites.

Posted by: BlueFalcon in Boston would be forever alone without AoS at March 18, 2012 06:48 AM (ijjAe)

41 Canned goods, dry beans, lots o' water, ammo, cooking utensils, tent, and look into buying a good horse and a pack mule.

Country boys can survive.


Posted by: predator at March 18, 2012 06:48 AM (RIGm6)

42 under both emergency and



(non-emergency conditions. )

Each Secretary shall authorize the heads of other agencies, as appropriate, to place priority ratings on contracts and orders for materials, services, and facilities needed in support of programs approved under section 202 of this order.

Posted by: willow at March 18, 2012 06:49 AM (TomZ9)

43 alright so i'm going to try to justify this. with the exception of NON emergency 

we have NK and Iran getting bold. the rest of the mid east rocking and rolling.
we have China and Russia siding with them.
perhaps we are looking at something.

however i still am suspicious of non emergency.

Posted by: willow at March 18, 2012 06:52 AM (TomZ9)

44 These people MUST go!

Anyone who still refuses to vote for the R candidate because it isn't your R candidate is out of his/her effing mind.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 18, 2012 06:52 AM (piMMO)

45

Chad,

 

In case you haven't noticed Ace has beaten down the birther issue on several occasions, to the extent of banning people that persisted in it. As for the the constitution I beleive Ace has been for all of it, including the 10th amendment.

 

What failed political and economic model does Obama subscribe to? To me it borders on communism and so does this document.  The document doesn't just say wartime, it also says any peacetime emergency. The president is the only one who can declare a national emergency, there are no guidelines or law saying what an emergency is. You may trust the guy, I don't.

Posted by: robtr at March 18, 2012 06:52 AM (MtwBb)

46 What ever happened to that Internal Security Dept., the one that was supposed to have as much funding as the DoD????

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 18, 2012 06:52 AM (Af3Wg)

47 glad someone caught this   x-order and posted it.  obviously u-no-hoo(shit for brains)  has not the mental horsepower to compose a sentence that complex, so who wrote this?

Posted by: yakima canutt at March 18, 2012 06:52 AM (Hk0K4)

48 Enough Is Enough!


Dear Members Of The Republican Leadership Of The United States Senate And The United States House Of Representatives,

Obama acts like a dictator because you are weak. He does as he pleases because dictators don't need to be concerned with pesky trifles like feckless legislators or the Constitution of the United States of America. He moves forward with his tyrannical usurpations because he believes you won't lift a finger to stop him.

When are you going to wake up? It's not Mr. Obama's first drink from the well of tyranny. He declared you "irrelevant" long ago. He essentially told you, long ago, that your services are no longer needed or required.

And guess what? Your weakness and fecklessness is proving him right. Unless you assert your constitutional duty and authority, and remove this disease that is afflicting this great country from office, you will remain irrelevant and, as far as  the American people are concerned... your services will no longer be required.

Fuck You.

Posted by: sickinmass at March 18, 2012 06:52 AM (bcNec)

49 facilities needed in support of programs approved under
section 202 of this order.

where is 202?

Posted by: willow at March 18, 2012 06:53 AM (TomZ9)

50 Okay, so I was off nearly 30 years. 2012 is the new 1984.

Posted by: George Orwell at March 18, 2012 06:55 AM (DATOZ)

51 What ever happened to that Internal Security Dept., the one that was supposed to have as much funding as the DoD????

They keep it quiet for, uh, security purposes.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 18, 2012 06:55 AM (piMMO)

52 chad sounds so terribly concerned about us.

Posted by: mugiwara at March 18, 2012 06:55 AM (hGb5f)

53 where is 202? The whole order is available at the first link. Short form: DoD, Energy, and DHS secretaries are the arbiters on what programs are necessary or appropriate to promote the national defense.

Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at March 18, 2012 06:55 AM (p7SSh)

54 27 Defense over water to keep the CA farmers from irrigating their fields? Go green, and use the military to enforce it. Posted by: Dax at March 18, 2012 10:35 AM (K55Vw) One word to ponder: MUTINY

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 18, 2012 06:55 AM (Af3Wg)

55 Hang on worthy people.  I'm coming.

Posted by: SMOD at March 18, 2012 06:55 AM (N2yhW)

56 Siggie94 has a good take on Toonces' power grab... http://tinyurl.com/7ahgmse

Posted by: Nickie Goomba at March 18, 2012 06:56 AM (20f6d)

57 Front Toward Left said :

The pending "non-emergency" is sudden federal fiscal doom (maybe a government shutdown, maybe a sudden inability to make the eagle shit for the dependent underclass on the first of the month).

The "priority ratings" are how Obama's cronies will be assured a place at the trough.

is that what order 202 says?

Posted by: willow at March 18, 2012 06:56 AM (TomZ9)

58 oh dear....i can see the "energy" secretary and the "agriculture" secretary duking it out over caffeine!!!! oh jeez......and secretary of heath!!!....and what about commerce!!! transportation and defense!!! this is going to be the biggest clusterfuck ever!!!!!!

Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 18, 2012 06:57 AM (Ho2rs)

59 Frankly, I have been coming here for going on 10 years now and for the most part I avoid the comments section anymore because of the constant birther/truther/"tenther"/obama is a sleeper agent for evil agency x bullshit. ---- Bwahahahaha! Pro-tip: If you're going to concern troll, don't put a patently untrue allegation into your comment.

Posted by: Y-not looking at the snow at March 18, 2012 06:57 AM (5H6zj)

60 202.  gah, i had not seen the color change and realized it was clickable.
202. Except as provided in section 201(e) of this order, the authority delegated by section 201 of this order may be used only to support programs that have been determined in writing as necessary or appropriate to promote the national defense:

(a)  by the Secretary of Defense with respect to military production and construction, military assistance to foreign nations, military use of civil transportation, stockpiles managed by the Department of Defense, space, and directly related activities;

(b)  by the Secretary of Energy with respect to energy production and construction, distribution and use, and directly related activities; and

(c)  by the Secretary of Homeland Security with respect to all other national defense programs, including civil defense and continuity of Government.

Posted by: willow at March 18, 2012 06:58 AM (TomZ9)

61 It was one thing to forgo metals and rubber to sustain the war efforts of the past but now they will be dealing in commodities such as energy and information.

My bet is that information will be hardest hit.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 18, 2012 06:59 AM (piMMO)

62
The reason for the law was fear of a Soviet nuclear attack and the ability to keep government functioning after the attack.


Ah, but it does make sense if the loons in Iran have nukes doesn't it? Particularly since Teh Won is working to get rid of all of our nukes.


Bill Ayers said he figured 25,000,000  Americans need to die come the Communist take over. He didn't say how he intended to do that - now did he?





Posted by: An Observation at March 18, 2012 06:59 AM (ylhEn)

63 I can only imagine that some sort of "emergency" will just happen to occur between late October and mid January.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 18, 2012 06:59 AM (Af3Wg)

64 so one can be assured Brad is NOT Breitbart.

Posted by: willow at March 18, 2012 07:00 AM (TomZ9)

65 Atlas Shrugged is definitely worth watching, but don't expect the pace to pick up too much. It's all dialogue driven, so basically you to see a handful of major chapters acted out in front of you. Fortunately it's short, so the low production values don't really get annoying. Before I say this I should double check, but was Andrew Breitbart in a cameo? I remember a few interesting real world faces, but I can't be sure he was one of them. It would've been the dinner party scene.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 18, 2012 07:00 AM (hiMsy)

66 I have been coming here for going on 10 years now and for the most part I avoid the comments section anymore

As you were.

Posted by: predator at March 18, 2012 07:02 AM (RIGm6)

67 the president is a miserable failure of a stuttering clusterfuck that was for chad........

Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 18, 2012 07:02 AM (Ho2rs)

68 Obastard is a wannabe tyrant.  How many examples do we have of him saying "if they won't act, I will" despite it being unconstitutional?

or simply going outside the law?

This is why the most recent Breitbart.com releases are important, they reflect a person who believes our constitution is a racist document and want it thrown out.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 18, 2012 07:02 AM (yqRWu)

69 phoenix and the Dept of Health fighting  with the military over how rubber production

(tires )will be distributed.

Posted by: willow at March 18, 2012 07:03 AM (TomZ9)

70 I thought the Atlas Shrugged movie was outstanding.  One of the reasons was that it WAS short. Ayn Rand (and a lot of other Russian authors) could stand a lesson in brevity.

One doesn't have to take 27 pages to describe a room's furnishings.

I can hardly wait for the second part.

Posted by: Vic at March 18, 2012 07:03 AM (YdQQY)

71 Went out into the woods yesterday afternoon and wasted a half dozen cantaloupes that I had previously painted a baby blue color -from 200 yards. It was a very cathartic exercise.

 

Posted by: Barbed Wire Wrapped Pineapple at March 18, 2012 07:03 AM (EL+OC)

72 I have been coming here for going on 10 years now and for the most part I avoid the comments section anymore


Bullshit. I'd venture a bet that I'm the longest running commenter at this place and I don't recall your expression of concern around here.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 18, 2012 07:03 AM (piMMO)

73 willow too many chiefs...not enough idians

Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 18, 2012 07:03 AM (Ho2rs)

74 indians even

Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 18, 2012 07:03 AM (Ho2rs)

75 finally....chad has said something!!!!!

Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 18, 2012 07:04 AM (Ho2rs)

76 "...that so good a man should be so bad a king." Overheard before the beheading of Charles I, January 30th, 1649

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 18, 2012 07:06 AM (Af3Wg)

77 It won't be so funny once I am in charge.

Posted by: Pres. Laura Roslin at March 18, 2012 07:06 AM (TrNbx)

78 A little known fact on all the metal and rubber drives of WWII.  They were nothing more than feel good activities for the population at home.

In fact, the rubber drives were a real disaster.  All those millions of tires sat at collection centers becoming just like old tires today, an eye sore and a mosquito factory.
 

Posted by: Vic at March 18, 2012 07:06 AM (YdQQY)

79 Four score and ten years ago this blog brought forth a great commenter--it wasn't Chad.

Posted by: predator at March 18, 2012 07:06 AM (RIGm6)

80 All those millions of tires sat at collection centers becoming just like old tires today, an eye sore and a mosquito factory.

Posted by: Vic at March 18, 2012 11:06 AM (YdQQY)


well good so DOH will not fight over it, there will be sighs of relief heard from women all over the land 


heh

Posted by: willow at March 18, 2012 07:09 AM (TomZ9)

81 What ever happened to that Internal Security Dept., the one that was supposed to have as much funding as the DoD????

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 18, 2012 10:52 AM (Af3Wg)



Could this be them?



(d)  The head of each agency with an NDER unit may exercise the authority under section 703 of the Act, 50 U.S.C. App. 2153, to employ civilian personnel when activating all or a part of its NDER unit.

Posted by: Tami at March 18, 2012 07:10 AM (X6akg)

82 You're right, it's the non-wartime regulation part that's troubling. Given that Fast & Furious looked like an attempt to create a gun crisis on the border in order to implement greater gun restrictions. Given the EPA's quest to regulate coal power plants into oblivion, they could trigger an energy emergency. Or what if the SDS oldies-backed OWS movement flares up this summer, causing rioting in major cities - is that enough of an emergency? It's just feels weird - nothing obvious, though.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 18, 2012 07:10 AM (ww09M)

83 here's even more about this:

http://tinyurl.com/83z8czf

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 18, 2012 07:11 AM (yqRWu)

84 (b) by the Secretary of Energy with respect to energy production and construction, distribution and use, and directly related activities; and

Looks like all energy production is considered inherently defense related. So Chu now has ultimate authority over a vast industry in non-emergencies.

Posted by: Heorot at March 18, 2012 07:13 AM (m2aLJ)

85

haha Andy Levy reading an Osama Letter regarding the only fox show he could stand.

 

“That show that comes on late at night with the tiny Jew host and the midtime Jew in the other room who sometimes is also hosting and the sidekick of repulsion. Truly, they are making me have the giggles and I am loving the videos with the kitties. Also, is Bill gay? I cannot decide. Anyway, death to America.”

Posted by: robtr at March 18, 2012 07:13 AM (MtwBb)

86 Oh, I feel so relieved that there is such a nice clear definition concerning which water we are talking about here! I was going to worry, for sure, if there wasn't a definition that will serve to keep everyone inside of the lines during an emergency/non-emergency. I know that my government officals in the Obama administration will stop and re-read these definitions before they take any actions. I just know it, that's how!

Posted by: And Irresolute at March 18, 2012 07:15 AM (RC3M9)

87 If Obama destroys the republic it's not going to be because he was some sort of supersecret Muslim/Communist bred from the start of the 60's to be president (a time when Blacks couldn't even share a bathroom with Whites in many states).
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Obama has never known institutionalized segregation. The civil rights act was passed in 1964 when he was 3 years old. By the time he entered school it was fully implemented and all forms of public segregation were eliminated.

He learned all his "hate whitey" shit from communist agitators who were simply trying to stir up trouble and then from hate whitey race baiters like that Chicago phony preacher.

Posted by: Vic at March 18, 2012 07:15 AM (YdQQY)

88 22 LEGAL? This is O'Bumbles - he don't need no stinkin legal.

Posted by: JustMe at March 18, 2012 07:16 AM (Rs9j+)

89

 CHAD: I have been coming here for going on 10 years now and for the most part I avoid the comments section anymore

Please go back to doing that for the next ten years.

...

Thank you.

Posted by: Meremortal at March 18, 2012 07:18 AM (Usk3+)

90 22 LEGAL? This is O'Bumbles - he don't need no stinkin legal.

Everything's legal if no one is willing to stop you doing it.

Posted by: Heorot at March 18, 2012 07:20 AM (m2aLJ)

91 I wonder if they will use rubbers when they really start to F* us? I hope that they have that in a definition somewhere.

Posted by: And Irresolute at March 18, 2012 07:24 AM (RC3M9)

92 No chad, there have never been any power grabs by any of our Presidents. Lincoln for example didn't suspend the 1st and 4th Amendments and any writs of habeas corpus. Citizens of Japanese or German descent weren't rounded up and put into camps here in the US during WWII. Private ownership of gold was never made a crime by Roosevelt.
 
Nope, none of that ever happened....which is why we shouldn't worry at all about the current power mad POS taking on some new powers for himself.
 
Remain calm, all is well.......jackwagon.
 
And as a side note to Vic about Public Defenders and showing lack of means to get one, Rep. Conyer's wife has a free PD to appeal her corruption conviction even though he makes $174k per year as a Congressman.

Posted by: GnuBreed at March 18, 2012 07:24 AM (cHZB7)

93

"Citizens of Japanese or German descent weren't rounded up and put into camps here in the US during WWII."

'''

What are we, chopped pasta?

..

 

Posted by: Interred Italians at March 18, 2012 07:27 AM (Usk3+)

94 Rep. Conyer's wife has a free PD to appeal her corruption conviction even though he makes $174k per year as a Congressman.
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Yes, it is corrupt shit like that that illustrates why the Supremes should have stayed out of it. Some "means testing" huh?

Posted by: Vic at March 18, 2012 07:27 AM (YdQQY)

95 i am very sorry Chad that i'm suspicious of a President that sought out Marxist profs and agitators to be his mentors, I am sorry for recognising that to me spending your life agitating for progressive ideas, and redistibuting others business's and funds  actually didn't seem to me to be mainstream thought, I am sorry He decided to go to a church that disliked America and liked chickens coming home to roost when 3000 Americans were killed just going about their normal lives.
I am sorry i have little faith in this President.

Posted by: willow at March 18, 2012 07:27 AM (TomZ9)

96 "The book is fantastic but a long read. I have been afraid to watch the movie, as I am worried that it won't live up to the novel." I was very pleasantly surprised myself, I read Atlas Shrugged years ago and then reread it a few years back. Honestly I wasn't expecting much from the movie, and while no movie is as good as a book Part I actually did do the book justice.

Posted by: StuckOnStupid at March 18, 2012 07:28 AM (R5yLq)

97
  The idea of updating to reflect current conditions as opposed to what was prior doesn't disturb me at all. What does is that sneaky little part about non emergency circumstances.  Delete that, and it's quite acceptable.

   As is, it gives me a sick feeling in the pit of my stomach.

Posted by: irongrampa at March 18, 2012 07:28 AM (SAMxH)

98 Atlas Shrugged the movie was like the animated Cliff's Notes version of the book. The characters are types who speak the key lines and the scenes are short. Like skimming the first half of a highlighted copy of the book in 90 minutes.

Posted by: Pauline Kael at March 18, 2012 07:29 AM (kwAf2)

99 Baraka love you long time.

Posted by: Michelle "call me Shelly" Obama at March 18, 2012 07:29 AM (MjY4i)

100 "I am sorry i have little faith in this President." I have total faith in him - to behave like the childish, narcissistic, left wing radical that he truly is. So far he hasn't let me down a bit. Sad, but true.

Posted by: StuckOnStupid at March 18, 2012 07:29 AM (R5yLq)

101 Just like Venezuela. Exactly.

Posted by: Alabama Mike at March 18, 2012 07:29 AM (Id+yE)

102 Frankly, I have been coming here for going on 10 years now and for the most part I avoid the comments section anymore because of the constant birther/truther/"tenther"/obama is a sleeper agent for evil agency x bullshit. Posted by: chad at March 18, 2012 10:38 AM (a/nZ0) I will give your post consideration... but first you will blow me.

Posted by: Mel Gibson at March 18, 2012 07:32 AM (DGIjM)

103 Pretty soon I will be declaring Marshall Law and this is how it will work.  I issued this presidential order as a courtesy so you would not be confused as to who is in charge.  If you have any questions or comments please direct them to the GFY (Department of Go F**K Yourself).  Thank you, Dear Leader

Posted by: El Presidente at March 18, 2012 07:32 AM (JKNDp)

104 "I am not a paranoid man by nature"

I thought that was a prerequisite for this blog?

Posted by: Paladin at March 18, 2012 07:33 AM (F1Q3T)

105 "One doesn't have to take 27 pages to describe a room's furnishings. " True, you could do it in 25 and then spend 2 pages talking about how the furnishings made your characters feel every time they enter the room. Ahh.. Poe. Fourteen pages in and he's still talking about how it's dark outside.

Posted by: StuckOnStupid at March 18, 2012 07:34 AM (R5yLq)

106 OT but Why is Jon Krakour a panelist on Meet the Press? Aside from being a stoner and a Leftist his only qualification that I can see is he wrote a nice book about climbing Mt. Everest. This qualifies him to talk war strategy and domestic politics? Jeebus.

Posted by: Daybrother at March 18, 2012 07:34 AM (9/zVj)

107 What does is that sneaky little part about non emergency circumstances. Delete that, and it's quite acceptable.

As is, it gives me a sick feeling in the pit of my stomach.

Posted by: irongrampa at March 18, 2012 11:28 AM (SAMxH)

Right i would assume any President in wartime would need  similar power. and as i said before , mid east is in upheaval, Iran is feeling froggy. along with NK,

it is that non emergency that is weird, It needs to be reasoned out not just executive order, and I had thought this was supposed to be a transparent country.

we don't seem to have any say, or explanations  given.

why?

Posted by: willow at March 18, 2012 07:34 AM (TomZ9)

108 Just checked, Breitbart is in the AS movie.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 18, 2012 07:34 AM (HethX)

109

106Just like Venezuela. Exactly. 

;;

I love that Venezuelan language. It's lovely. I think I'll send Chad down there to be my Ambassador of Concern. He speaks in tongues you know.

Posted by: President for Life Barack Obama at March 18, 2012 07:35 AM (Usk3+)

110 "I thought that was a prerequisite for this blog?" Not a prerequisite, but it is encouraged. We've just noticed that it saves a lot of time, since after reading this stuff for 6 months or so your bound to develop paranoia anyway. So why not come prepared - that's all we're saying Lol

Posted by: StuckOnStupid at March 18, 2012 07:35 AM (R5yLq)

111
I am not a confirmed sociopath, merely maligned and harranged by right wing nut jobs who seek to label me to gain political advantage.  I am your brother. 

Posted by: Baracka O'WalksOnWater at March 18, 2012 07:36 AM (TkGkA)

112 anyway, who will be the best source to go to to read who will evaluate this, but in an even handed way?

Posted by: willow at March 18, 2012 07:37 AM (TomZ9)

113 111 OT but Why is Jon Krakour a panelist on Meet the Press? Aside from being a stoner and a Leftist his only qualification that I can see is he wrote a nice book about climbing Mt. Everest. This qualifies him to talk war strategy and domestic politics?

Well, if I watched any of those Obama lovefests, I'd say that a guy who could write a nice book probably is an improvement over the usual set of J-school graduates.  Being a leftist is just a given.

Posted by: pep at March 18, 2012 07:37 AM (6TB1Z)

114

101

Honestly I wasn't expecting much from the movie, and while no movie is as good as a book Part I actually did do the book justice.

 

The only movie that was as good as the book was "To Kill A Mockingbird." All others pale in relation to their original book. I say this without having read "Joe Dirt". So I could  be wrong.

Posted by: Sub-Tard at March 18, 2012 07:38 AM (ursbV)

115 I wonder if they will use rubbers when they really start to F* us? If experience is an indicator, then no.

Posted by: The Chicken at March 18, 2012 07:39 AM (nW5Qj)

116 OT but Why is Jon Krakour a panelist on Meet the Press? Aside from being a stoner and a Leftist his only qualification that I can see is he wrote a nice book about climbing Mt. Everest.
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Why is Mara Liasson qualified to comment on anything. She knows less about stuff than I do. Why do any of these stupid reporters with shitty degrees all of a sudden become experts on everything?

The answer is because they own the media. 

Posted by: Vic at March 18, 2012 07:39 AM (YdQQY)

117 I assume that Defense gets water because they can 1) protect and 2) distribute
At lots of large public events, the National Guard handles water type stuff.

Hump...time to dig a well...

Posted by: Paladin at March 18, 2012 07:40 AM (F1Q3T)

118 Is Mara a real name?

Posted by: Sub-Tard at March 18, 2012 07:40 AM (ursbV)

119 maybe Volokh?

Posted by: willow at March 18, 2012 07:40 AM (TomZ9)

120 AS part 2 on the way http://scoamf.us/r4

Posted by: Pauline Kael at March 18, 2012 07:40 AM (kwAf2)

121

"Right i would assume any President in wartime would need similar power."

 

War is peace. Regulation is freedom. Poverty is wealth. Chad is smart.  

Posted by: President for Life Barack Obama at March 18, 2012 07:41 AM (Usk3+)

122 "The only movie that was as good as the book was "To Kill A Mockingbird." All others pale in relation to their original book. I say this without having read "Joe Dirt". So I could be wrong." Well I've never seen a movie that is as good as the book from which it is derived, and that I think is just sort of the nature of the beast. For one in a movie you can't get a sense of what the characters are thinking or feeling the same way you do in a book. That and most movies are limited in run time, which means either stuff has to be edited out, or you end up with a 17 part movie. Caveat being of course, not having read Joe Dirt either - you might be right on that one. That's a tough movie to top, even in novel form.

Posted by: StuckOnStupid at March 18, 2012 07:42 AM (R5yLq)

123 I have no doubt that Obama would exercise his inner Hugo Chavez if given half the chance, but in Obama's pay-to-play world, the non-emergency part of this EO is a campaign fundraising letter. "Raise enough for my reelection campaign to be the next Solyndra. If the federal government's ability to make transfer payments is somehow impaired, we'll see to it that you are first in line because 'national defense,' that's why."

Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at March 18, 2012 07:42 AM (p7SSh)

124

126
"Right i would assume any President in wartime would need similar power."

War is peace.Regulation is freedom. Poverty is wealth. Chad is smart.

 

Do these regulations require a decalaration of war by the Congress to enact? Or can a couple of WH chimps just, you know, enact them?

Posted by: Sub-Tard at March 18, 2012 07:43 AM (ursbV)

125 123Is Mara a real name?  Leave my sister alone!

Posted by: Chadd at March 18, 2012 07:44 AM (Usk3+)

126 "Do these regulations require a decalaration of war by the Congress to enact? Or can a couple of WH chimps just, you know, enact them?" Oh I'll almost guarantee that some cabinet member or more likely someone over at the FDA or Dept. of Energy will do something horribly over reaching, well, I mean even worse than it is now. Then they'll cite this as proof that they had the authority to do it. The White House will claim they didn't know about the move before hand, and then the press will pretend like it's no big deal. They'll use it as a trial balloon to give the WH political cover and to see if they can get away with it. Pretty much same playbook they've been running for the last 4 years.

Posted by: StuckOnStupid at March 18, 2012 07:47 AM (R5yLq)

127 That and most movies are limited in run time, which means either stuff has to be edited out, or you end up with a 17 part movie.

That's why I've come to think that a well done miniseries is the best format.  There is time for character and plot development, with each episode being more or less standalone, yet you know that there will be a climax and denouement, unlike an open-ended series. 

Posted by: pep at March 18, 2012 07:49 AM (6TB1Z)

128
If the dems maintain control, expect "emergencies" every few weeks until all the federal agencies trump the state laws recently implemented to keep this exact thing from happening.

Obama has already declared more natural disasters than any president in history. He plans on turning America into his personal chessboard, where he controls both the blacks and whites.

Posted by: Ed Anger - Certified Kos Kid at March 18, 2012 07:49 AM (7+pP9)

129 Example: Band of Brothers

Posted by: pep at March 18, 2012 07:49 AM (6TB1Z)

130 Do these regulations require a decalaration of war by the Congress to enact? Or can a couple of WH chimps just, you know, enact them?

Posted by: Sub-Tard at March 18, 2012 11:43 AM (ursbV)

good point. and we have already heard Panetta say that the President can by pass congress re war,(U.N nations and Nato are allowed to decide what our military should do) and Libya rather proves it. 


thanks for calming me down. NOT.


Posted by: willow at March 18, 2012 07:50 AM (TomZ9)

131 "I have complete faith in a "non-emergency" clause. " Well sure you do. That's how we know your a fucking idiot. No offense of course. I mean I'd explain what the means to you but honestly I just don't have the time and you wouldn't get it anyway, so why bother? But one thing you might wish to attempt to consider - sure, your all for giving Baracky as much authority as he wants. But what happens if the next President is someone you hate again? Do you want someone you don't trust having that much power? Come on.. think Chad! think! I know you've never tried it before, but you can do it buddy! I know you can... Lol

Posted by: StuckOnStupid at March 18, 2012 07:50 AM (R5yLq)

132

"President George W. Bush did not sign a national defense resources preparedness executive order because he signed the executive order creating the Department of Homeland Security which includes national defense resources preparedness and much more.....

However, here's the question I raise: Why update the National Defense Resources Preparedness order and not the Homeland Security order which includes National Defense Resources Preparedness? "

from

http://tinyurl.com/6mettsz

Posted by: jeanne o'bodine at March 18, 2012 07:50 AM (byR8d)

133 We're told to get out panties out of a twist because other Presidents have issued the same type of EO. On a Fri night document news-dump I'm sure.

Yeah we should give Obama the benefit of the the doubt. As evidenced by the last three years of his administration we've see nothing but the utmost respect for the Rule of Law and the Constitution.

Here's a great example.

Did everyone see Panetta's testimony last week? He was asked about Congressional authority in going to war

Q from Sessions:  As you go forward, will you consult with the United States Congress?" Sessions asked Defense Secretary Leon Panetta Wednesday.

Panetta:  "You know, our goal would be to seek international permission. And we would come to the Congress and inform you and determine how best to approach this, whether or not we would want to get permission from Congress," Panetta said.

Link to IBD - tiny.cc/l9hdbw






Posted by: lacey o'underalls ready to puke 'n pass out at March 18, 2012 07:51 AM (NjkB6)

134 The answer is because they own the media. Posted by: Vic Ah yes. The simple answer is usually correct.

Posted by: Daybrother at March 18, 2012 07:52 AM (9/zVj)

135 "That's why I've come to think that a well done miniseries is the best format. There is time for character and plot development, with each episode being more or less standalone, yet you know that there will be a climax and denouement, unlike an open-ended series. " Sure beats the Kevin Costner 6 hours in a theater "mega-epic" approach. Thanks for Dances with Boredom there Kev.. gosh, really appreciated it. Best nap I've had in a while.

Posted by: StuckOnStupid at March 18, 2012 07:52 AM (R5yLq)

136 chad is struggling with his inner libtard.........

Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 18, 2012 07:53 AM (Ho2rs)

137 Why yes Lacey, we can use our military at the whim of Nato and U.N no congress needed, lovely wasn't it.

Posted by: willow at March 18, 2012 07:53 AM (TomZ9)

138 "Why yes Lacey, we can use our military at the whim of Nato and U.N no congress needed, lovely wasn't it." What is this "Congress" thing you folks keep going on about?

Posted by: StuckOnStupid at March 18, 2012 07:54 AM (R5yLq)

139 "chad is struggling with his inner libtard........." And apparently losing. Lol

Posted by: StuckOnStupid at March 18, 2012 07:54 AM (R5yLq)

140 Posted by: StuckOnStupid at March 18, 2012 11:50 AM (R5yLq)

Pssst. That was a sock.

Posted by: Heorot at March 18, 2012 07:55 AM (m2aLJ)

141

A few years ago, at the California college I work for, we were all required to attend SIMS training which put us into compliance with some similar federal law and allows us to continue to suck on the federal teat for funds.

SIMS allows some vague authority...governor, college president, POTUS....that seriously was never made clear....to declare an 'Emergency' and because we are all gubberment employees at the college we would be required to show up to work and perform emergency services (never specified) for some unspecified entity for no pay. For no specified period of time either. Presumably you would leave your home and family to the mercies of nature while you were away serving the needs  of the state.

Failure to appear at your workplace under a SIMS Emergency declaration will result in your employment termination.Call me paranoid but the gubberment has been working towards a dictatorship since they crushed the Whiskey Rebellion.

 

Posted by: torabora at March 18, 2012 07:55 AM (706IZ)

142

"A group headed by Bertram Scudder was demanding the passage of a Public Stability Law, forbidding Eastern business firms to move out of their states.

Wesley Mouch, Top Co-Ordinator of the [Federal] Bureau of Economic Planning and National Resources [think: Tim Geithner at Treasury], was issuing a great many statements, the content and purpose of which could not be defined, except that the words “emergency powers” and “unbalanced economy” kept appearing in the text every few lines. (p. 299)"

 

Wesely Mouch is sort of a Tim Geithner-Barney Frank hybrid cylon.

Posted by: rectal exam at March 18, 2012 07:55 AM (O7ksG)

143 Grow up you stupid fucks.

^^^

Well you're off to a great start here.

Posted by: lacey o'underalls ready to puke 'n pass out at March 18, 2012 07:55 AM (NjkB6)

144 obama to congress, You're
 not the boss of me and my military.

Posted by: willow at March 18, 2012 07:56 AM (TomZ9)

145 Crap. Off green sock

Posted by: laceyunderalls at March 18, 2012 07:56 AM (NjkB6)

146 "Pssst. That was a sock." Seriously folks, somebody start putting a little icon or something down in the corner or something.. Lol.. I don't have time to compare hash tags on every post.

Posted by: StuckOnStupid at March 18, 2012 07:56 AM (R5yLq)

147 All this conspiracy stuff is stupid. Conspiracy theories are just popular history for the lower classes. Obama would never betray the principles of the Constitution.

Posted by: Stellar Wind at March 18, 2012 07:57 AM (9/zVj)

148 I didn't care for Hollywood's version of "To Kill a Mockingbird"  They changed it.


Posted by: Jimbo at March 18, 2012 07:57 AM (O3R/2)

149 Ah, Spring

Brings out flies, fleas, mosquitos, gnats

And Occupoopers

Police and Occupy Wall Street protesters clash at New York park where movement began six months ago 


http://tinyurl.com/6vjanyo

Posted by: kbdabear at March 18, 2012 07:58 AM (Y+DPZ)

150

 I assume that Defense gets water because they can 1) protect and 2) distribute
At lots of large public events, the National Guard handles water type stuff.



Hump...time to dig a well...


 

Posted by: Paladin

 

The Army Corps of Engineers has authority to control "navigable" inland waterways.  The supervise most levee and dam building on major (and minor) rivers, etc.

 

And the Corps of Engineers frequently misuse that power in a tyrannical (and incompetent) way, and have done so for many years.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes.... at March 18, 2012 07:59 AM (sJTmU)

151 "All this conspiracy stuff is stupid. Conspiracy theories are just popular history for the lower classes. Obama would never betray the principles of the Constitution." See, perfect example. Now I have to scroll up and compare hash tags so I can figure out if this is just another troll liberoid or someone putting on a puppet show. Sigh.. maybe I'll rent Dances with Wolves and get a few extra hours of ZZZZ's instead. Lol

Posted by: StuckOnStupid at March 18, 2012 07:59 AM (R5yLq)

152 1 "I shudder for our Republic." We no longer live in a Republic, my friend. We live in an <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOOTKA0aGI0">anarcho-syndicalist commune</a>.

Posted by: BigGator5 at March 18, 2012 07:59 AM (k/jYM)

153 The best coverage of a book I have seen is Shogun. It followed the book virtually word-for-word.

Posted by: Vic at March 18, 2012 08:00 AM (YdQQY)

154 In Second Life® I'm a guy who only reads AoSHQ's main posts but not the comment sections where I comment only occasionally but I can fly.

Posted by: dangling chad at March 18, 2012 08:00 AM (6RnvM)

155 Yes, all right. I am a sock. Sue me. No body commented on the original novel, "Bevis and Butthead" compared to the film by the same name.

Posted by: Daybrother at March 18, 2012 08:02 AM (9/zVj)

156

About a year or two ago the New York Times ran a series of articles suggesting that Climate Change was the #1 national security threat facing the US.  Since then, the CIA spokesperson regurgitated the same nonsense.  Sporadically, the White House has said the same thing.  Up until now, I've held the opinion that the very concept was so far to the left that it would show a negative response in the electorate. 

 

Now, I wonder if the groundwork was laid to add teeth to this new executive order.  In other words...no need to vote on "Cap and Tax"...just pass it under this executive order via the EPA's secretary. 

Cheers,

THe Worm

Posted by: THe Worm at March 18, 2012 08:02 AM (bPuOE)

157 No faith in individuals, only in individual bureaucrats.

Posted by: nickless at March 18, 2012 08:02 AM (MMC8r)

158 Where's this skeleton of a 10,000-year-old Ewok you want plowed over? Kennewok, Washington? Okay, we'll be over tomorrow after we launder some levee construction funds.

Posted by: the corps of engineers at March 18, 2012 08:04 AM (6RnvM)

159 just a thought, I'd also hate this is a republican President did this. I was not fond of the Patriot act and sweeping powers, i did however feel slightly comforted that it had sunset provisions. not that that has been revised, It's has remained and added to, as i thought it would.
used to be on non u.s citizens now we can wack u.s citizens at the will of those who decide who is a Terrorist.

Posted by: willow at March 18, 2012 08:04 AM (TomZ9)

160 But I'm not well hung, I'm just dangling!

Posted by: dangling chad at March 18, 2012 08:05 AM (6RnvM)

161 I heard the idiot (O'dipshit) on the radio last night saying that oil companies must stop getting subsidies (a damn lie), and he went on to say that if only the subsidies ended (lie), then gas prices would finally go down (hahaha I hope a lie and not flawed logic)

This man lies so much I doubt he's able to tell the truth.  How can anyone... ANYONE say that by increasing a companies expenses that they would lower their prices? Anyone who believes that should immediately be executed for stupidity.

Its got to be some bad dream.  The 'President' cannot be this crazy.  He's made people like Debbie Was-a-man Shultz seem sane.  If we came across people like her 10 years ago she'd be laughed off the TV.  Now?  Well with Obama telling big ones so often, it seems we're in some pretend world of 'don't contradict the black president! You'll get that guilty feeling!!  Just go along with it and we might get through this without being called a racist.


Posted by: What a Jerk at March 18, 2012 08:05 AM (u4/vX)

162 158 Sigh. I wish my friend Mary from Brattleboro would help me out here. I feel I'm being bullied.
Posted by: Hanging Chad at March 18, 2012 11:59 AM

Under the Emergency Powers Act and media reports on the crisis of bullying, I hereby declare the shutdown of the internet. Except for my campaign site. I love that Paypal cash

Posted by: King Barry the Controller at March 18, 2012 08:06 AM (Y+DPZ)

163 The problems I have with this are 2 fold.

1. it does not matter, update or not, the EO simply should not exist in any form, a prez could call marshall law in a true emergency anyway, this EO just gives them the ability to meddle in non-emergency situations.

2.  this administration has shown a propensity to use this type of crap to violate and limit freedoms.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 18, 2012 08:07 AM (yqRWu)

164 The Game of Thrones series was extraordinarily well done. I read the book years ago, so I don't recall everything, but I don't believe anything got left out. As for gubment overstepping, well, it's hard to beat what they did in GoT in that regard.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 18, 2012 08:08 AM (Gc/Qi)

165 First they came for the OWS crowd, and I did nothing.

Then they came for the NASCAR crowd, and still, I did nothing.

Posted by: Fritz at March 18, 2012 08:09 AM (KWdVT)

166 @ 173

   I would add to that that this EO, as written, should not exist during ANY administration irrespective of party.

   Needs to be repealed stat.

Posted by: irongrampa at March 18, 2012 08:09 AM (SAMxH)

167 I'm glad that we didn't have to find out how scary a Vice President Sarah Palin would be

I'll wave to all of you in the camps on my way to my MSDNC gigs

Posted by: Steve "Uncle Fester" Schmidt at March 18, 2012 08:10 AM (Y+DPZ)

168 First they didn't come for the OWS crowd and I did nothing. Then they came for the Tea Party and I did something. Then they came for Chad...Meh.

Posted by: Daybrother at March 18, 2012 08:11 AM (9/zVj)

169 175 First they came for the OWS crowd, and I did nothing.

Then they came for the NASCAR crowd, and still, I did nothing.
Posted by: Fritz at March 18, 2012 12:09 PM

Keep on doing nothing

Posted by: kbdabear at March 18, 2012 08:11 AM (Y+DPZ)

170 "29 Ok I feel better now. Ed Morrisey has a column on this and says it's nothing to worry about and that a President Santorum would never use it to confiscate all of the latex.

Posted by: robtr at March 18, 2012 10:37 AM (MtwBb)"

--------------------

Fast Ed says, "Barack Obama may be arrogant, and the timing of this release might have looked a little strange, but this is really nothing to worry about at all." 

--------------------

So, there's the real skinny from Hot Gas.

Posted by: Workin' for the Man Every Night & Day at March 18, 2012 08:12 AM (eMtQ2)

171 there's even a few concerned over at dem underground: http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002437322

Posted by: d at March 18, 2012 08:13 AM (7XH0F)

172 The Directive in Atlas Shrugged is Number 10-289.
If you want to look it up.

Posted by: comatus at March 18, 2012 08:13 AM (ZOlM3)

173 Sure be nice if some sort of formatting worked in these comments.

Posted by: Workin' for the Man Every Night & Day at March 18, 2012 08:13 AM (eMtQ2)

174 146 "Why yes Lacey, we can use our military at the whim of Nato and U.N no congress needed, lovely wasn't it."

What is this "Congress" thing you folks keep going on about?

Posted by: StuckOnStupid at March 18, 2012 11:54 AM (R5yLq)

 

 

Remember that little picnic in Libya?  Every freakin illegal thing the left has yelled and screamed about Bush doing during his tenure, they are ACTUALLY doing.  And they crying Bohner and Old McConnell won't open their mouths. 

Posted by: Havedash at March 18, 2012 08:14 AM (JfvbF)

175 But we'll still be able to watch Jersey Shore and Keeping Up With The Karadassians, right?

Posted by: Your Fellow Americans at March 18, 2012 08:14 AM (Y+DPZ)

176 182 I'm sorry. I'll have to take your word for it.

Posted by: Daybrother at March 18, 2012 08:14 AM (9/zVj)

177

The so-called "subsidies" for "oil companies"  (which would cover everything from wildcat exploratory oil drillers to the big integrated refinery corporations) are nothing more than the tax rules that allow deductions for the amortization of equipment, etc. , since the oil "bidness" is extremely capital and equipment intensive.

 

How much does it cost to build an off-shore oil platform that has to drill down 10,000 ft to hit oil?  And how do you pay for that when the return on your investment may take years?

 

How does this capitalism thing work, anyways?

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes.... at March 18, 2012 08:15 AM (sJTmU)

178 Gaius Baltar for President! We need someone that we can really trust, someone who will do what he says he will do, not like Obama! Vote Baltar!!

Posted by: And Irresolute at March 18, 2012 08:16 AM (RC3M9)

179 Ok I feel better now. Ed Morrisey has a column on this and says it's nothing to worry about and that a President Santorum would never use it to confiscate all of the latex.

Posted by: robtr at March 18, 2012 10:37 AM

I think that's the same kind of guy who got off the train at Auschwitz and when he got into the chambers, said "oh good, I could use a nice hot shower"

Posted by: kbdabear at March 18, 2012 08:17 AM (Y+DPZ)

180 There is a little bug scurrying to and fro across the bottom corner of my screen. I have been coming here for 10 years and have never seen the likes of that.

Your computer may be infected. Since viruses waste energy, I in my capacity as Grand Panjandrum of All Energy, order you to immediately turn it off. Please deliver it to your local Information Security Officer for analysis and cleansing. Your issue has been logged, we will be watching.

Posted by: Steven Chu (by order) at March 18, 2012 08:18 AM (m2aLJ)

181 Sure be nice if some sort of formatting worked in these comments.
Ace had to disable the HTML because the freakin' comment nuts here (who I barely ever read any more) thought the Obama admin could control their fapping through it.

Posted by: dangling chad at March 18, 2012 08:19 AM (6RnvM)

182 189 Maybe I should go over and see what my friend Charlels Johnsen has to say about this nontroversy.

Posted by: Hanging Chad at March 18, 2012 12:15 PM (vbh31)


------------------------


He says the only ones worrying about this are the racists.  Don't even have to go over there to check - that's what he says about everything.

Posted by: Workin' for the Man Every Night & Day at March 18, 2012 08:19 AM (eMtQ2)

183 188 Jimmy Carter. Two words: "Windfall profit tax" Well...three really. My family was in the bidness back then. It meant my brother suddenly got a second tax bill on everything he owned. Not to mention a THIRD bill come income tax time on the same freakin money.

Posted by: Daybrother at March 18, 2012 08:20 AM (9/zVj)

184 bred from the start of the 60's to be president (a time when Blacks couldn't even share a bathroom with Whites in many states).

O Chad. Chad, Chad, Chad.
In your many years here, have you not learned...ah, never mind.

Simply put, somebody "shared a bathroom" with somebody back at the start of the 60's. So to speak. And old Frank had the photos to prove it. Want to see 'em? I've got a copy. NSFW, m'brudda. N.S.F.W. 

Posted by: comatus at March 18, 2012 08:24 AM (ZOlM3)

185 Anyone else notice Chaz has bigger post-op moobs than she ever had boobs?

Posted by: CoolCzech at March 18, 2012 08:24 AM (niZvt)

186 I wonder if they will use rubbers when they really start to F* us?

Will they kiss us first? Because I'd really like to be kissed before somebody f*cks me!

Posted by: Eric Cartman at March 18, 2012 08:25 AM (piMMO)

187 198 i'd at least appreciate dinner....and maybe a movie.....

Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 18, 2012 08:26 AM (Ho2rs)

188 "My family was in the bidness back then. It meant my brother suddenly got a second tax bill on everything he owned. Not to mention a THIRD bill come income tax time on the same freakin money." Well that's what you get for being one of the evil rich. Evil Rich of course now being defined as "having a job".

Posted by: StuckOnStupid at March 18, 2012 08:26 AM (R5yLq)

189 Maybe I should go over and see what my friend Charlels Johnsen has to say about this nontroversy.


Posted by: Hanging Chad at March 18, 2012 12:15 PM (vbh31)

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He says the only ones worrying about this are the racists. Don't even have to go over there to check - that's what he says about everything.
Posted by: Workin' for the Man Every Night & Day at March 18, 2012 12:19 PM

This from the guy who has all sorts of filters and sirens set up in his computer room to check on who's talking about him.

What's breaking Chuckie's heart is that the siren doesn't go off much anymore



Posted by: kbdabear at March 18, 2012 08:27 AM (Y+DPZ)

190 199 198 i'd at least appreciate dinner....and maybe a movie..... Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 18, 2012 12:26 PM (Ho2rs) Oh, sure! At this rate, next thing you know you'll be demanding foreplay!

Posted by: CoolCzech at March 18, 2012 08:28 AM (niZvt)

191

This President, Barack Obama, has a spine of steel. I know because I've seen it. When they were taking him apart to replace some modules and stuff the other day I sa er ah forget that part. Anyway, his butt is made of asbestos and his pecker is made of wood.

 

Ha Ha, I crack myself up sometimes. This one time when I locked myself in my wife's closet I dressed up as a slut and then one time I went into the ladies room at the CIA headquarters and spied...

 

Oops gotta go the super secret telephone in the bathroom is ringing. Most accidents in the home take place in the kitchen which is why the phone is in the shitter.

 

True story. Would your old buddy Joe shit you? Hell no, but i don't take calls when I'm shitting. Accidents happen, and Joe knows accidents, trust me. No, don't. OK, do. Doo-doo, that's poop.

Posted by: Joe "the lawyer" Biden at March 18, 2012 08:29 AM (5Odx3)

192 cool czech well.........is that really to much to ask?

Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 18, 2012 08:29 AM (Ho2rs)

193 maybe a cuddle afterward

Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 18, 2012 08:29 AM (Ho2rs)

194 ah crap....just get it over with......

Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 18, 2012 08:30 AM (Ho2rs)

195 Well that's what you get for being one of the evil rich. Evil Rich of course now being defined as "having a job". Posted by: StuckOnStupid at March 18, 2012 12:26 PM

Oh no, Hollywood celebrities, pop singers, rap stars, drug dealers, tony shops in well heeled limo liberal shopping districts, and Warren Buffett are all part of the 99 percent, didn't you know that?

Posted by: Media Matters at March 18, 2012 08:31 AM (Y+DPZ)

196 Good news! Chaz figured out how to afford a new penis! He'll just use Dad's hand-me-down.

Posted by: CoolCzech at March 18, 2012 08:31 AM (niZvt)

197 A little known fact on all the metal and rubber drives of WWII. They were nothing more than feel good activities for the population at home.

Never underestimate the value of feeling good. Remember when the Libs were raising hell because GW didn't ask for sacrifice from us?

Posted by: Eric Cartman at March 18, 2012 08:32 AM (piMMO)

198 "Oh no, Hollywood celebrities, pop singers, rap stars, drug dealers, tony shops in well heeled limo liberal shopping districts, and Warren Buffett are all part of the 99 percent, didn't you know that?" I must have forgotten to check my chart. The bullshit changes with such frequency anymore that I've found it's about the only way I can keep up

Posted by: StuckOnStupid at March 18, 2012 08:32 AM (R5yLq)

199 205 cool czech well.........is that really to much to ask? Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 18, 2012 12:29 PM (Ho2rs) You deserve a good tongue lashing.

Posted by: CoolCzech at March 18, 2012 08:32 AM (niZvt)

200

A courtesy reach-around would be nice, but Barky is too selfish to consider others.

 

Guess it is time to get some more ammo for the guns lost in the fishing accident.

Posted by: Ammo Dump at March 18, 2012 08:32 AM (WUWb9)

201 a prez could call marshall law in a true emergency anyway

It's martial law, of course, but I rise to recognize the infinite depths of meaning uncovered by a simple misspelling.

Marshall Plan.
Frank Marshall Davis.
Federal marshals.

Good one.

Posted by: comatus at March 18, 2012 08:33 AM (ZOlM3)

202 Then s/he will be Dangling Chaz!

Posted by: dangling chad at March 18, 2012 08:33 AM (6RnvM)

203 Does anyone ever see Delta Smelt around here anymore?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 18, 2012 08:33 AM (piMMO)

204 @ 201

    Actually, a quick check at the little green echo chamber reveals not a word----yet.  I'm sure at some point he or one of his toadies will weigh in about the "wingnuts".

Posted by: irongrampa at March 18, 2012 08:35 AM (SAMxH)

205 "Actually, a quick check at the little green echo chamber reveals not a word----yet. I'm sure at some point he or one of his toadies will weigh in about the "wingnuts"." Nice to feel appreciated I guess.. lol

Posted by: StuckOnStupid at March 18, 2012 08:36 AM (R5yLq)

206 I must have forgotten to check my chart. The bullshit changes with such frequency anymore that I've found it's about the only way I can keep up Posted by: StuckOnStupid at March 18, 2012 12:32 PM

I've figured the metrics used by the left for the 1 percent or the rich based on annual income

Over 200K but under 1 million = rich

Between 1 million and 20 million = part of the great 99 percent of the "working class" consisting of athletes, actors, singers, pundits, and network news anchors

Over 20 million = rich

Posted by: kbdabear at March 18, 2012 08:37 AM (Y+DPZ)

207 Heh.Yesterday, an email from Moochelle. Today, from Julianna Smoot:

Friend --

Once the Republicans settle for -- sorry, settle on -- their nominee, the dynamics of the race will transform, and the election will kick into high gear.

That means this Dinner with Barack could very well be the last before we know our opponent -- and there are just two seats left at the table.

Donate $3 or whatever you can by midnight tonight to be automatically entered for a chance to sit in one of them.

What a bargain! $3 for a chance to have dinner with the POTUS. Then again, when you count in bail money and the cost of an attorney, perhaps not.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 18, 2012 08:38 AM (piMMO)

208 Actually, a quick check at the little green echo chamber reveals not a word----yet. I'm sure at some point he or one of his toadies many sockpuppets will weigh in about the "wingnuts".
Posted by: irongrampa at March 18, 2012 12:35 PM

FIFY

Posted by: The Fixer at March 18, 2012 08:39 AM (Y+DPZ)

209 116 Matt's been riding too hard these days. Posted bySarah Jessica Parker at March 18, 2012 11:34 PM (H0rSE) Back in the saddle, is he?

Posted by: CoolCzech at March 18, 2012 08:39 AM (niZvt)

210 Click. Click.

Posted by: Obama's Zippo Lighter at the Reichstag at March 18, 2012 08:40 AM (8hBZi)

211

Marshall Law, well there's something this old Sheriff knows something about.

 

Wait right here, I wrote it down somewhere. In secret invisible ink of course, so it might take me awhile to find it.

 

Maybe I left it in the shitter, be right back. Unless I get a phone call. Sometimes, in the kitchen, the oven timer goes off and I think it's the phone. But it isn't?

 

True story. Take it to the bank.

Posted by: Joe at March 18, 2012 08:40 AM (5Odx3)

212 "I've figured the metrics used by the left for the 1 percent or the rich based on annual income" Huh.. my chart is a little more simplified than that. Obama Supporter = Good working class citizen, regardless of income Non-Obama Supporter = Evil Rich

Posted by: StuckOnStupid at March 18, 2012 08:41 AM (R5yLq)

213 What a bargain! $3 for a chance to have dinner with the POTUS. Then again, when you count in bail money and the cost of an attorney, perhaps not.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 18, 2012 12:38 PM

Might actually be the only chance to eat food with salt, fat, and other things forbidden to the rest of us by the First Nanny

Posted by: kbdabear at March 18, 2012 08:42 AM (Y+DPZ)

214
  Time to scoot, mentioned on the ONT that due to the early warm, many of our local ice cream places are opening early.

  Gonna make this a family outing.

    Have the best day possible, good people.

Posted by: irongrampa at March 18, 2012 08:45 AM (SAMxH)

215 Need to get a bit done myself. Starting to see some signs of life from the rest of the crew - looks like they might be up and around shortly. OldSis and I are the only two who've been up yet this morning, she's already giving me a hard time for getting the chili ready this morning - she actually tried to scold me into sitting down and letting her make it. Fat chance. You don't get my chili recipe that easy sister

Posted by: StuckOnStupid at March 18, 2012 08:49 AM (R5yLq)

216 Ayn Rand wrote a book about the left. It should surprise anyone that it is a mirror for these dipshits. I know Rand was an atheist, substituing $ for † but it appears that the only thing she missed was the left smartening up about needing to get rid of freedom of religion first before the state becomes God.

Posted by: dagny who loved andrew at March 18, 2012 08:49 AM (u50z0)

217 It shouldn't surprise anyone

Posted by: dagny who loved andrew at March 18, 2012 08:50 AM (u50z0)

218

He's been in the water a while, hasn't he. Well would ya look at that -- trust a tea bagger to steal more chains'n he could swim with.

I take mah responsibility for public safety seriously. I hereby declare mandatory chain safety swim training for all registered Republicans. Round 'em up boys, and get 'em down to the river.

Posted by: Sheriff Mugabe T. Obama at March 18, 2012 08:51 AM (8hBZi)

219

So did you mormons hear that Osama wasn't afraid of old Joe. Well let's just drag his skinny dead ass out of that cooler down in Dover, Delaware and see how that worked out.

 

By the way Dover is my old stomping grounds. One time when I was riding the train back to Scranton from Washington I got off the train and hopped a jet from Dover International Airbase.

 

Oh wait did I say cooler in Dover? I meant from old davey jones locker off Rehoboth Beach. It's in a foot locker of course, although I don't know how they got a whole body in a footlocker.

 

Anyway it's a true story just the same. And don't forget your old pal Joe is running again this year. Hillary? In a Foot Long Locker at Kony Island. That's in New York or Africa, maybe/

Posted by: Joe "the lawyer" Biden at March 18, 2012 08:55 AM (5Odx3)

220 I went to an elementary school auction last night. I had two separate and unrelated people walk by me and say in my ear "Obama is dangerous". Since most people around her keep their politics, if it's not 'tard, next to the vest and I do the opposite, I'm the go-to girl for people to express their opinions when they can't keep silent anymore. I feel bad for them, that they are so afraid. But they're afraid socially, they worry that the lefties won't like them. I don't want lefties to like me--besides it's more fun to piss them off. If they liked me they would talk to me and stuff. Shudder.

Posted by: dagny who loved andrew at March 18, 2012 08:58 AM (u50z0)

221 Krakauer also wrote "Under the Banner of Heaven"; so when southern Utah secedes and nukes Las Vegas, I'll tune in to what he has to say about that.

Krakauer's being called in as an expert on Afghanistan for two reasons. One is that he wrote a book on Pat Tillman, "Where Men Win Glory". The other is that he accused Greg Mortenson's Afghanistan book, "Three Cups of Tea", of fraud.

Posted by: Oliver Cromwell at March 18, 2012 09:02 AM (QTHTd)

222 I don't want lefties to like me--


It's a bullshit argument to say that one is close-minded if they don't embrace diversity in their circle of friends, although that argument has been made. I, like you, have no desire to have friends who are liberals. It only invites frustration and bitter feelings and is ultimately designed to fail. In essence, I consider liberalism a character flaw, worse, a mental defect. I have no compulsion to willingly surround myself with those people.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 18, 2012 09:13 AM (piMMO)

223 W.C. Fields may have been the first to say:
Just because you're paranoid, it doesn't mean they're not out to get you.

Posted by: Gerry at March 18, 2012 09:18 AM (A1Ih4)

224 " Since most people around her keep their politics, if it's not 'tard, next to the vest and I do the opposite, I'm the go-to girl for people to express their opinions when they can't keep silent anymore. I feel bad for them, that they are so afraid. But they're afraid socially, they worry that the lefties won't like them. I don't want lefties to like me--besides it's more fun to piss them off." Lol.. well, to a up to a certain point I guess.

Posted by: StuckOnStupid at March 18, 2012 09:43 AM (R5yLq)

225

I agree with this post more than Gabriel's.

 

Everything this President does is about government control. He signed legislation permitting the indefinite detention of American citizens. He favors government control of the internet. He is trying to force the largest faith in the country to violate a 2000-year-old religious belief so that the Catholic Church will be forced to close its hospitals and schools, increasing the government monopoly. Now he has renewed the framework for a command economy.

 

Nope, nothing to see here. This President is just like all the rest.

Posted by: Palandine at March 18, 2012 09:45 AM (g7D8V)

226 "Ask not what your TEA Party can do for you..." ~ DeepWheat

Posted by: DeepWheat at March 18, 2012 11:12 AM (ISt5N)

227 thought the Obama admin could control their fapping through it.

From my cold, dead, calloused hand.

Posted by: nickless at March 18, 2012 11:55 AM (MMC8r)

228 210 A little known fact on all the metal and rubber drives of WWII. They
were nothing more than feel good activities for the population at home.

Never underestimate the value of feeling good. Remember when the Libs were raising hell because GW didn't ask for sacrifice from us?

Posted by: Eric Cartman at March 18, 2012 12:32 PM (piMMO)

Well actually they still got that going on. You can contribe to a campaign to re-elect a black man POTUS. I just laugh my ass off at that one. It's good...real good. And that guy from Scranton just makes me howl with laughter.

Posted by: torabora at March 18, 2012 12:08 PM (wki7A)

229 Remember Bush's FEMA driving semi trucks full of bottled water around aimlessly & paying drivers 24/7 to idle at truck stops?

Posted by: torabora at March 18, 2012 12:11 PM (wki7A)

230

1108 Old state Highway, Lot 24

Asheboro, North Carolina 27205

I keep waiting for him to visit me but he never comes.

 

Posted by: Marshall Law at March 18, 2012 12:20 PM (wki7A)

231 You're absolutely right. We shouldn't even HAVE an emergency plan - it's patently unconstitutional. After all, it's not like we've had planes crash into Washington DC. Any plan should obviously be based on 'let's just hope everything turns out okay.'

Posted by: JEA at March 18, 2012 01:07 PM (4fG68)

232 Well I've never seen a movie that is as good as the book from which it is derived, and that I think is just sort of the nature of the beast.

Blade Runner was much better than When Robots Sleep etc.

Posted by: toby928© at March 18, 2012 01:26 PM (GTbGH)

233 STFU, dunce.

Posted by: toby928© at March 18, 2012 01:26 PM (GTbGH)

234 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: steevy at March 18, 2012 03:51 PM (7W3wI)

235 I guess this goes along with the 450 million rounds of .40 caliber ammunition the government just ordered for DHS and ICE. The company is ATK in Anoka, Minnnesota. Detailed in the Wall Street Journal Market Watch 3//12/12. the orders begin being delivered in June.

Posted by: Mike the Knife at March 18, 2012 05:11 PM (msaoP)

236 One day is too enough I hope to double the time

Posted by: Briefcase Bag supplier at March 21, 2012 12:11 AM (a9Ily)

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