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September 29, 2012

Why Doesn't Obama Take More Of An Interest In Golf?
— JohnE.

I mean this seriously. He has played over a hundred rounds of golf since his swearing in. That's a lot of golf. Yet, he doesn't appear to be a fan of golf at all. This is odd for someone that plays as often as he does.

Bill Clinton was famous for his love of watching and attending PGA events. Buzz Patterson's book Dereliction of Duty describes some of this, ahem, passion.

I approached President Clinton on three occasions at this golf tournament, Roger, to ask him for the go-ahead to launch this attack. We had Air Force fighters in the air, ready to drop bombs and to repel SaddamÂ’s forces, and on three occasions, President Clinton could not be bothered to take the phone call from Sandy Berger. So, on three occasions I approached the President, he brushed me offÂ—he wanted to watch the golf tournament. So I saw, really, for the first time, the dereliction of duty, as it were, by President Clinton not being ableÂ—not being willing to take the phone call while thousands and thousands of Kurds were being slaughtered by Saddam Hussein.

Both Bushes were big golf fans as well. As I watch the Ryder Cup this weekend, I am reminded of this story:

Entering the final day, the Americans were four points down, a huge margin to make up. But they had been given a pep talk by the then Governor of Texas, George W Bush, who had read out the Â“no surrenderÂ” address from the Battle of the Alamo. It was so belligerent that David Duval stormed out of the locker room shouting, Â“LetÂ’s go out and kill them.Â” The Americans duly staged an almighty comeback and it all came down to the 17th green. The US player Justin Leonard nailed a monster 45ft putt, which prompted his team-mates, their wives and caddies to rush on to the green and high-five each other, dressed in their ludicrous maroon uniforms that made them look like they worked at a cut-price pizza joint. They had forgotten that JosÃ© Maria OlazÃ¡bal, the Spaniard, had yet to finish his game. OlazÃ¡bal, looking flustered, missed his putt and America won the Ryder Cup.

Talk to any of your friends or family that golf frequently, and I can assure you they are watching or paying attention to the Ryder Cup.

This is hardly some game-changing issue. It's just... very odd.

Posted by: JohnE. at 07:38 AM | Comments (232)
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1 Whatever.

Ninth.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 29, 2012 07:39 AM (2b4yb)

2 Golf, a cheap hunting substitute for city boys.

Posted by: Billy Bob, psuedo intellectual at September 29, 2012 07:41 AM (wR+pz)

3 http://tinyurl.com/crc9l2z Talk about falling on your sword.

Posted by: gumchewer at September 29, 2012 07:42 AM (8AaAG)

4 So I guess the Administration is no longer culpable for mistakes made in the executive?

Posted by: gumchewer at September 29, 2012 07:43 AM (8AaAG)

5 Get's him away from Michelle. I mean can you blame him?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 29, 2012 07:43 AM (oSFWF)

6 Golf, a good walk spoiled.

Posted by: Mr. Dave in SPI at September 29, 2012 07:43 AM (OBDWE)

7 Of course he doesn't watch. Someone might be better than him.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. We're not worthy. at September 29, 2012 07:44 AM (Gk3SS)

8 Why would a flaming narcissist care how others golf?

Posted by: RushBabe, Infidelicious at September 29, 2012 07:44 AM (tQHzJ)

9 The Ryder Cup has been great fun to watch today (and yesterday). My man Phil and his partner Keegan are kicking ass.

Posted by: Y-not at September 29, 2012 07:44 AM (5H6zj)

Well, either he doesn't watch it...

or...

...he keeps very quiet about it and is very public about his basketball watching.

Can't imagine why he'd do that.

Nope. No idea why.

Posted by: Mama AJ at September 29, 2012 07:44 AM (SUKHu)

11 It's simple. How can he be a fan of someone who isn't a son of a communist whore? I mean, how can he be a fan of anyone who isn't him? That's just silly talk.

Posted by: Inspector Asshole at September 29, 2012 07:44 AM (dyhOT)

12 Medinah is about 30 minutes away from O'Hare. Barky could be there by this afternoon to bolster our (white) men in goofy clothes, then make it out to Cominskey Field by tonight to cheer on his beloved (and tanking) White Sox.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at September 29, 2012 07:45 AM (aQ2q2)

13 OT: It looks like old Punch kicked the bucket. Reading the obit, of course they act like he was a hero. The news media - reporters and publishers, are notorious for promoting themselves as heros when in reality they are mostly nothing but leftists and dirt bags in their personal lives.

Posted by: Redd at September 29, 2012 07:45 AM (guxHP)

14 I belong to two clubs and I have a firm rule. Eighteen holes or a dozen lost balls whichever comes first.

I finish a round a couple of years ago, but the guys at the club said I couldn't post my putt putt scores.

Posted by: Billy Bob, psuedo intellectual at September 29, 2012 07:45 AM (wR+pz)

15 Because he's not in that game.

Posted by: Golan Globus at September 29, 2012 07:46 AM (/1U3u)

16 I'm reasonably certain the golfing thing is an attempt to look presidential and seem wealthy. Almost all of President Obama's life is pretense and trying to craft a specific sort of image and persona, and at this point I doubt he even knows who he really is.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 29, 2012 07:46 AM (r4wIV)

17 I've always maintained that these 'golf' outings are a cover for his joyboy trysts.

Posted by: LeBron Steinman at September 29, 2012 07:46 AM (jfWE9)

18 Was this thing you call "golf" invented by a Muzzie?

Posted by: MrScribbler at September 29, 2012 07:46 AM (ZgX/g)

19 Did Obama ever play golf before he became President? That's a serious question.

Posted by: rickl at September 29, 2012 07:46 AM (sdi6R)

20 @13

You got to love Punch, he ran the NY Slime almost into bankruptcy. He was just that close. Damn, punch you let us all down.

Posted by: Billy Bob, psuedo intellectual at September 29, 2012 07:46 AM (wR+pz)

21 17 I've always maintained that these 'golf' outings are a cover for his joyboy trysts.

Posted by: LeBron Steinman at September 29, 2012 11:46 AM (jfWE9)

Who told you?

Posted by: Reggie Love at September 29, 2012 07:47 AM (wR+pz)

22 I'm an avid golfer and pretty good. Practice more than play because it's cheaper and quicker. Never met an avid golfer who didn't take a keen interest in watching the best players play. Starts as a way to get better.

Posted by: Beagle at September 29, 2012 07:48 AM (sOtz/)

23 To follow up...Obama has helped to undermine the most sacred of bonds any man can feel--his allegiance to a sports team. As a Sox fan, I look upon the late season collapse with a feeling of smug satisfaction, especially given his prognostications.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at September 29, 2012 07:48 AM (aQ2q2)

24 He doesn't like golf -- playing it or watching it. He just likes being on the golf course because it's ideal for private conversations and also because it makes him look like regular folk.

Posted by: TD at September 29, 2012 07:48 AM (+uFux)

25 Did Obama ever play golf before he became President? That's a serious question. Posted by: rickl at September 29, 2012 11:46 AM (sdi6R) I'll answer it this way: Did obama ever write or sponsor a serious bill while he was in the Senate?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 29, 2012 07:48 AM (oSFWF)

26 17I've always maintained that these 'golf' outings are a cover for his joyboy trysts.

I always figured it was to smoke (something) or to get away from the wife, but mainly to take a day or two off from work every week.

Posted by: Lincolntf at September 29, 2012 07:48 AM (HethX)

27 Obama's voters consist of blacks, Latinos, single women, college and grad students, gays and lesbians, riff raff, full-time academics, arrested development slackers, and people who already went senile and who believe they're still voting for Truman and JFK. That's about it. Add at the margins some felons, mental patients and Indians living on reservations. Not too many golf aficionados reside in those groups. It's really that simple.

Posted by: Tsar Nicholas II at September 29, 2012 07:49 AM (r2PLg)

28 Obama's handlers probably don't let him watch lest he find out that "par" is a number in the single digits despite what his toadies have been telling him.

Posted by: natasha at September 29, 2012 07:49 AM (pyYXJ)

29 17 I've always maintained that these 'golf' outings are a cover for his joyboy trysts. -- That or coke benders. Golf related: what's the best way to learn how to play? And can a man and woman take lessons from the same pro to learn? I see they are advertising that GetGolfReady lessons program. Wondering if it's worth a shot to get started.

Posted by: Y-not at September 29, 2012 07:50 AM (5H6zj)

30 They call it golf because shit was already taken. I had a sand wedge stuck in the top of a large oak tree until hurricane Hugo came through.

And piss on Obama.

Posted by: Vic at September 29, 2012 07:51 AM (YdQQY)

31 Cause Obama hates white people. Especially white men. Especially white Republican men. It's all about status. Watching and caring about the Ryder Cup elevates the status of the competitors -- who tend to be conservative, white, Republican men. Playing golf as President means forcing the nation to watch you play golf. It elevates your status. If some group is complaining that you play golf too much is there any doubt who is high status and who is low status in this equation. The fact that it's mainly white Republicans who complain about how much golf Obama plays ... only adds to the enjoyment Obama gets. Because it forces the white Republicans into the lower status position of whining about the golf-playing habits of their higher status superior, ie Obama. Politics is not about policy, it's about status. Obama got into politics to raise the status of people he likes and also (and more importantly) to lower the status of people he hates.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at September 29, 2012 07:51 AM (ZPrif)

"it makes him look like regular folk."

LOL. You live in Florida or Palm Springs?

Posted by: Beagle at September 29, 2012 07:51 AM (sOtz/)

33 Golf related: what's the best way to learn how to play? And can a man and woman take lessons from the same pro to learn?

Don't do like I did and just get clubs and start playing. Go to the pro first. And yes both can get lessons from the same pro. But never buy your clubs from the pro at the club house.

Posted by: Vic at September 29, 2012 07:52 AM (YdQQY)

34 What #8 said.

Posted by: dogfish at September 29, 2012 07:53 AM (N2yhW)

35 I sorely miss having a genuine red-blooded American man as POTUS. . .

Posted by: natasha at September 29, 2012 07:53 AM (pyYXJ)

36 Obama couldn't care less about any event that doesn't directly involve him, his bank account, or his ego. But don't worry, if the US wins, he'll make sure to congratulate them on what "we" have accomplished.

Posted by: sgr at September 29, 2012 07:53 AM (xa5GW)

37 He doesn't take an interest in golf because he's the best player in the world, and watching lesser players is boring. At least, that's what he tells himself.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter [/b][/i][/u] at September 29, 2012 07:54 AM (CA2NO)

38 I'll tell you what pissed me off about Presidents and golf. Damned Eisenhower got to come down and play Augusta National many times. While the rest of us can't even get in to watch the rounds unless someone dies and wills us tickets.

Posted by: Vic at September 29, 2012 07:54 AM (YdQQY)

Come on, it's the US vs. Western Europe. Obama doesn't have anyone to root for.

Posted by: Simon Oliver Lockwood at September 29, 2012 07:54 AM (2FcDw)

40 When the left-wing went full BSC under Bush, there were certain places where President Bush couldn't go--college campuses, "urban" areas...hell, the poor man gave up golf during his second term. As it stands now, where are the informal "off-limits" area to the Precedent?

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at September 29, 2012 07:54 AM (aQ2q2)

41 It' s probably pure narcissism. Professional golf holds no interest for him because the players are clearly way better than he is. Why would he want to wtch something that makes clear his inferiority. I'll bet when he plays basketball, he thinks "Damn, Kobe ain't got nothing on me."

Posted by: DearLeader at September 29, 2012 07:55 AM (tdrWB)

42 As a kid, I loved miniature golf and chip & putt. When I was 16, I signed up for lessons. One day, we went to the real golf course to play five holes. I got heatstroke, vomited, and had to call my mom to come and get me. I did shoot 5 on a par 3 hole. That was the highlight of my golfing career.

Posted by: rickl at September 29, 2012 07:56 AM (sdi6R)

43 Medinah a really pretty course. I hadn't realized that before. Guess I missed other PGA events there.

Posted by: Y-not at September 29, 2012 07:56 AM (5H6zj)

44 Playing golf as President means forcing the nation to watch you play golf. It elevates your status.Posted by: Flatbush Joe

Except for the fact that he bars photogs from the courses, you might be right. And that the press dutifully ignores his outings. And that playing a shitty game of golf while things are falling apart in the economy and in the world do nothing but make you look distracted, lazy putz at best.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at September 29, 2012 07:57 AM (CdCPN)

45 One day, we went to the real golf course to play five holes. I got heatstroke, vomited, and had to call my mom to come and get me.

Real men ride in a cart and take beer.

Posted by: Vic at September 29, 2012 07:57 AM (YdQQY)

OT: Looks like the Mexican media is on the warpath.

Fom the Daily Caller

Spanish-language television network Univision plans to air a television special that it said reveals more violence than previously known, as well as the stories of how many more Operation Fast and Furious victims were killed, the network announced in a Friday release.

Link in sig

Posted by: The Jackhole at September 29, 2012 07:57 AM (DU15A)

47 @39

Excellent point.

Posted by: Billy Bob, psuedo intellectual at September 29, 2012 07:57 AM (wR+pz)

48 @40" Off limits to Obama: any place that's more than ten feet from the virtual noose Valerie Jarrett keeps around his tiny balls.

Posted by: natasha at September 29, 2012 07:57 AM (pyYXJ)

49 Of course he doesn't watch. Someone might be better than him. Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. We're not worthy. at September 29, 2012 11:44 AM (Gk3SS) There is considerable merit to this and the other comments about the narcissistic aspect of this question. I've said it before and will say it again: From the few swings and photos I've seen, I can tell you TFG is an AWFUL golfer, despite being the most athletically athletical person evah to walk the halls of the WH.

Posted by: jakeman at September 29, 2012 07:58 AM (96M6e)

50 As it stands now, where are the informal "off-limits" area to the Precedent?

Anyone who knows they built their own business, like the bakery in VA that wouldn't allow Biden to make a campaign stop there: "Crumb and Get It."

O/T:

Jerry Doyle has this as his poll question:

The Messianic Socialist, President Obama Â– in his attempt to claim the mantle of patriotism Â– said; Â“ItÂ’s time for a new economic patriotismÂ”. You sayÂ…

7% : "Welcome Obamamerica!"

93% say "Bite me."

Posted by: kallisto at September 29, 2012 07:58 AM (jm/9g)

51 Real men ride in a cart and take beer. Posted by: Vic at September 29, 2012 11:57 AM ( I think I'll play golf with Vic! :-)

Posted by: Y-not at September 29, 2012 07:58 AM (5H6zj)

52 I'm pretty sure I'm a better golfer than any of those guys...

Posted by: King Puttsalot at September 29, 2012 07:58 AM (FcR7P)

53 Real men ride in a cart and take beer.

Posted by: Vic at September 29, 2012 11:57 AM (YdQQY)

True dat, but sounds like he was under age.

Posted by: Billy Bob, psuedo intellectual at September 29, 2012 07:59 AM (wR+pz)

54 http://tinyurl.com/chb2a4d Chris wallacwe is a FUCKTARD LIberal

Posted by: Evilpens at September 29, 2012 07:59 AM (ck76k)

he gets to wack white balls with a club,whats not to like

Posted by: kj at September 29, 2012 07:59 AM (zYYbU)

56 Kallisto, Put me down for "Bite me" Do they allow air horns during the Ryder Cup?

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at September 29, 2012 07:59 AM (aQ2q2)

57 I think I'll play golf with Vic! :-)

Posted by: Y-not at September 29, 2012 11:58 AM (5H6zj)

Ahhh, too late. I had to give it up after breaking my left elbow in three places. I gave my clubs to my younger brother.

Posted by: Vic at September 29, 2012 07:59 AM (YdQQY)

58 he doesn't watch because the majesty of the game would be lost on him........

Posted by: phoenixgirl what did huma abedin know? team dagny at September 29, 2012 08:00 AM (Ho2rs)

I'd like to be able to afford a round occasionally, but it's the scorekeeping that's a real bitch for me. It's a rather complicated mathmatical formula that involves the total number of balls lost, pi, the number of beers ingested and the phase of the moon.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 29, 2012 08:00 AM (lOmbq)

60 Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 29, 2012 12:00 PM (lOmbq)

LOL, you want to lose some balls, play some of the courses down at Myrtle Beach. Water Hazard hell!

Posted by: Vic at September 29, 2012 08:01 AM (YdQQY)

61 59
I'd like to be able to afford a round occasionally, but it's the scorekeeping that's a real bitch for me. It's a rather complicated mathmatical formula that involves the total number of balls lost, pi, the number of beers ingested and the phase of the moon

Just play for a fund raiser where they have beer girls that can "help" you with your score or should I say scoring?

Posted by: Billy Bob, psuedo intellectual at September 29, 2012 08:01 AM (wR+pz)

62 "Under my plan, if you like your insurance I can go golfing."

"Using my foot wedge, I saved 42,000,000 strokes last year."

"Make no mistake, by which I mean never record more than a 4 on my scorecard."

"There's comes a point where you have earned enough strokes. I start killing witnesses after that."

"The reason I bombed Libya? I made a bogie there once."

That F*cking Guy

Posted by: GnuBreed at September 29, 2012 08:02 AM (ccXZP)

63 OT: Looks like the Mexican media is on the warpath.
Fom the Daily Caller
Spanish-language television network Univision plans to air a television special that it said reveals more violence than previously known, as well as the stories of how many more Operation Fast and Furious victims were killed, the network announced in a Friday release.

Link in sig

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The Mexican media doing jobs the american media won't do

Posted by: The Jackhole at September 29, 2012 08:02 AM (DU15A)

64 backwardsboy here in az you can golf for 10 bucks in the summer on some decent courses of course you might get heat stroke by the 5 hole and have to call your mother.....

Posted by: phoenixgirl what did huma abedin know? team dagny at September 29, 2012 08:02 AM (Ho2rs)

65 NOON. Time for that morning drink! Cold and rainy here, I suspect Vic you have the same shit further down I-85.

Posted by: Billy Bob, psuedo intellectual at September 29, 2012 08:02 AM (wR+pz)

66 Because he sees professional golf as one of the last bastions of the rich, white establishment. Probably alot of Republicans among the ranks of the pros too. Tiger Woods isn't enough for him to take interest. He would watch golf no sooner than he would a Polo match.

Posted by: Ken Royall at September 29, 2012 08:03 AM (x0g8a)

67 Could it be he likes hitting golf balls for the same reason Jackie Robinson did? - "Because they're white."

And if it wasn't pointed out in the previous thread, Ayers: an unrepentant bomb builder/thrower and terrorist, close with Obama. Say hello to Martin Luther King, champion of non-violent protest. Sharp contrast, sharper hypocrisy.

Posted by: Jason Newton at September 29, 2012 08:03 AM (z6KMg)

68 #48, anyone ever wonder what role Jarrett plays for the First Couple in the personal sense? Is she Domme to two subs? She's Michelle's "very good friend" and they both slap Choom Boy around for being the bi sissy he comes across as? Seriously, no sane married couple has that much of a third party in it without something sexually unusual coming into play.

Of course he's off getting blown by old white gays and probably not reciprocating, so who the hell knows. Or cares that much. My curiosity just runs toward the morbid.

Posted by: Not Mary Cloggenstein at September 29, 2012 08:04 AM (+PoXK)

What were the stories about people with whom he won't play golf??

Females.

Didn't Boehner or somebody offer to play golf with him and he said no??

Posted by: Mama AJ, with the fuzzy memory at September 29, 2012 08:04 AM (SUKHu)

70 Polo? You know we Black Feet are excellent riders and invented polo right?

We use white man head as ball.

Posted by: Injuin Blackfoot Barry, The One Who Eats Dogs at September 29, 2012 08:04 AM (wR+pz)

71 Cold and rainy here, I suspect Vic you have the same shit further down I-85.
Posted by: Billy Bob, psuedo intellectual at September 29, 2012 12:02 PM

Not exactly cold, but it is cool, dreary, and overcast. probably will rain later. if I was still in upstate NY and it was colder I would say it was about to snow. It looks about the same.

Posted by: Vic at September 29, 2012 08:04 AM (YdQQY)

Libya?

It's a sand trap!

Posted by: Admiral Akbar, PGA Professional at September 29, 2012 08:05 AM (sOtz/)

73 Y-not, Golf related: what's the best way to learn how to play? And can a man and woman take lessons from the same pro to learn? Pick up a cheap set of clubs on Craigslist (don't spend more than $100) or you can get a new cheapo set from a big box store. I heartily echo Vic's comment about starting with lessons, weekly at first, and try to hit balls by yourself on at least one other day each week to practice what you learned. Get Golf Ready may even provide loaner clubs. In any case, don't spend a lot of money starting out, because you'll quickly learn whether you hate it (and sell your gear on Craigslist, stat) or whether you want to get better--when you'll have a better idea of what kind of clubs will suit your game. Good luck--keep us posted on how it goes!

Posted by: jakeman at September 29, 2012 08:05 AM (96M6e)

74 Ugh. Technical difficulties with the broadcast.

Posted by: Y-not at September 29, 2012 08:06 AM (5H6zj)

75 @71

Same here, and the damn leaves have started falling already. Pool looks like shit.

Posted by: Billy Bob, the guy who drinks in SC at September 29, 2012 08:06 AM (wR+pz)

76 President Eye Candy uses golf as an excuse to ditch the wife and kids, smoke cigarettes, and suck cock, but mostly, smoke cigarettes.

Posted by: Fritz at September 29, 2012 08:06 AM (vm7ot)

77 but it's the scorekeeping that's a real bitch for me. It's a rather complicated mathmatical formula I spend so much time in the weeds that I have a simple formula: if I end up with more balls in my bag than when I started, it was a successful day. Seriously. It must go back to when my grandfather would pay me a quarter for any balls that I found near their house.

Posted by: t-bird at September 29, 2012 08:06 AM (FcR7P)

78 phoenixgirl, do you play? It would be a kick to get out there for nine with a fellow Moron!

Posted by: jakeman at September 29, 2012 08:07 AM (96M6e)

79 The US Embassy in Cairo issued a terrorist threat warning on Friday for American citizens living in Egypt. The diplomatic mission stated on its website that it has Â“credible information suggesting terrorist interest in targeting US female missionaries in Egypt.Â” The embassy urged US citizens to Â“exercise vigilance, taking necessary precautions to maintain their personal security.Â” Americans in Egypt were also advised to maintain valid travel documents and to regularly monitor the US Department of StateÂ’s Bureau of Consular Affairs website, which lists updated travel warnings and alerts. But let's give them 450 Billion anyway?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 29, 2012 08:07 AM (oSFWF)

80 >>>Ugh. Technical difficulties with the broadcast. NBC. Naturally.

Posted by: JohnE. at September 29, 2012 08:07 AM (nRTou)

81 Beagle @ 11:51, LOL, no what I mean by "regular folk" is that it makes him look like he fits in as a member of the regular political folk. All presidents play golf so he needs to look like a normal president instead of the radical un-American president he is (see D'Souza). It's an image thing. poor choice of words on my part.

Posted by: TD at September 29, 2012 08:08 AM (+uFux)

82 Same here, and the damn leaves have started falling already. Pool looks like shit.

Posted by: Billy Bob, the guy who drinks in SC at September 29, 2012 12:06 PM (wR+pz)

The leaves started falling here weeks ago. I just compared old photos around the house for this time of the year. It appears we are about 2 - 3 weeks ahead of schedule for Winter. My Backyard camellias are already blooming way ahead of schedule.

It looks like that OFA prediction of a cold and snowy Winter is getting real.

But this is the WARMEST decade in history!

Posted by: Vic at September 29, 2012 08:09 AM (YdQQY)

here in az you can golf for 10 bucks in the summer on some decent courses of course you might get heat stroke by the 5 hole and have to call your mother

When I lived in Bradenton, a bunch of guys from the engineering office found a place to play where we could walk nine for $5 afer 4pm in the summer. The course was right behind the Pirates southern spring encampment, but they were gone by the time those rates went into effect.

We got off work at 4:30, then it was a mad scramble to get beer and drive across town (about 15 minutes) for our game. Good, good times.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 29, 2012 08:09 AM (lOmbq)

84 I think Obama did play with Boehner. I remember an MSM line like "of course Obama was no match for Boehner's game, which everyone knows is superb..." or some such twaddle. Basically saying Obama didn't "lose" to Boehner because they weren't keeping score, or something.

Posted by: Lincolntf at September 29, 2012 08:09 AM (HethX)

85 Why Doesn't Obama Take More Of An Interest In Golf? It's not like anyone could teach him anything...

Posted by: t-bird at September 29, 2012 08:10 AM (FcR7P)

86 You really think Obama cares about other people's accomplishments?

Posted by: hadsil at September 29, 2012 08:10 AM (oqORR)

87 Didn't Boehner or somebody offer to play golf with him and he said no??Posted by: Mama AJ,/i]

He may have asked more than once, but they played with Kaisch and Biden last year before the budget fiasco.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at September 29, 2012 08:11 AM (CdCPN)

88 I had a buddy that use to play with Clinton, he was the head of the Young Democrats, then changed parties to GOP.

He said Clinton was the cheating SOB he ever played with. Always took a mulligan and never putted out his ball. Couldn't add either.

Posted by: Billy Bob, the guy who drinks in SC at September 29, 2012 08:11 AM (wR+pz)

89 Golf = do some blow and smoke some weed on the course.

Posted by: Max Power at September 29, 2012 08:11 AM (q177U)

90 >>>I think Obama did play with Boehner. I remember an MSM line like "of course Obama was no match for Boehner's game, which everyone knows is superb..." or some such twaddle. Basically saying Obama didn't "lose" to Boehner because they weren't keeping score, or something. What *actually* happened was that at the last minute Obama changed the teams so that he and Boehner were on the same team. It was supposed to be Obama and Biden together. He didn't want to lose to him.

Posted by: JohnE. at September 29, 2012 08:12 AM (nRTou)

91 Myrtle Beach discounts their prices in the Summer too. When I was playing a typical course there ran $100 + cart fees which were about $25 I think. During the Summer they would go down to $50 for afternoon rounds.

Like FL, their big seasons are the Spring and Fall.

Posted by: Vic at September 29, 2012 08:12 AM (YdQQY)

92 89 Golf = ~~do some blow~~Get a blow job and smoke some weed on the course.

Posted by: Max Power at September 29, 2012 12:11 PM (q177U)

FIFY.

Posted by: Ole Bill Clinton at September 29, 2012 08:13 AM (wR+pz)

93 You think it was easy being president of a great economy provided by a huge tech boom? I was damn busy, mostly looking for the right cigars.

Posted by: Bill Clinton at September 29, 2012 08:14 AM (/YJYi)

94 I hope he's reading up on Nicolae Ceausescu.

Posted by: The Poster Formerly Known as Mr. Barky at September 29, 2012 08:14 AM (4FZvG)

95 Golf = do some blow and smoke some weed on the course.

My high school golf team had a reform school on our schedule, and as soon as you were at the farthest hole from the clubhouse, dudes would bust out a couple of joints and offer us some. It was awesome.

Posted by: jakeman at September 29, 2012 08:14 AM (96M6e)

96 Speaking of golf, I think I'll go to the club and watch the Golf Mo's watch the Cup and eat some lunch and get a buzz.

Life be good.

Posted by: Billy Bob, the 1% at September 29, 2012 08:15 AM (wR+pz)

97 Where else can a man go to play with clubs and balls that doesn't look openly ghey?

Posted by: Preznit M.T. Chair at September 29, 2012 08:16 AM (jucos)

98 Funny how we no longer hear about the basketball games after the pussy took a hard foul to the face.

Posted by: The Poster Formerly Known as Mr. Barky at September 29, 2012 08:16 AM (4FZvG)

99 Look on the bright side, in a few years when Barry is at one of those charity former presidents golf tournaments, every former president, including Carter, will be kicking his ass to a teary eyed media.

Posted by: BlueFalcon in Boston at September 29, 2012 08:17 AM (KCvsd)

100 jake no i don't....even though my family is a golfing family...our branch went baseball....i can drive a golf cart though!

Posted by: phoenixgirl what did huma abedin know? team dagny at September 29, 2012 08:17 AM (Ho2rs)

101 Want to see my putter?

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at September 29, 2012 08:17 AM (Wp4rQ)

102 Y-not, if you're still around -- Get Golf Ready *does* supply everything you need for five lessons, so you can probably get a good bead on whether you think you might like it. I'd say that would be a fantastic way to get started.

Posted by: jakeman at September 29, 2012 08:17 AM (96M6e)

103 97 Where else can a man go to play with clubs and balls that doesn't look openly ghey?

Posted by: Preznit M.T. Chair at September 29, 2012 12:16 PM (jucos)

You say that like it's a bad thing? Come over honey, and bring your balls.

Posted by: Barney at September 29, 2012 08:18 AM (wR+pz)

104

I bought a cheapo set of clubs from Play It Again Sports, a cheap bag and got taught by my aforementioned buds. Any day I managed to get a triple bogey on any hole was a great one.

When I upgraded to a new Tour Collection set of clubs (which I still have) they knocked about four strokes off nine holes and felt so much better than the first set. I've never had a real lesson, but it is fun to just screw around with the driver, the big net and wiffle balls in the back yard. And I still have an excuse to drink beer outside, like I need one...

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 29, 2012 08:18 AM (lOmbq)

105 83 backwardsboy nice!

Posted by: phoenixgirl what did huma abedin know? team dagny at September 29, 2012 08:19 AM (Ho2rs)

106 "He has played over a hundred rounds of golf since his swearing in. That's a lot of golf." No, it's not. You must not be a golfer. To get any good at the game, especially for someone like Obie who took up the game late in life (Really, a start after age 15 is actually 'late', assuming one has aspirations of ever shooting par.), just to set and control necessary muscle memory requires something around 20,000 repetitions. There's SCIENCE on this. If you haven't done that -- and there's every indication Obie hasn't done even 5 percent of that -- no chance do you get better. And here's the thing: once you've got to that stage, of being able control an angled stick hitting a round pitted ball at say 80 mph -- which is very much amateur speed -- is going to take well over 50 rounds PER SEASON. Folks who belong to private clubs AND play to a low handicap, typically play around 100 plus a year. At the rate Obie's been playing, and assuming he's not following a useful practice and training session of 3 hours of that to every one hour of actual play, it's simply impossible to improve. If he started at say an 18 handicap, which is about normal for anyone with some history of playing sports requiring any degree of hand-eye coordination, he's going to be challenged to break 100 each and every time he plays.

Posted by: Rex the Wonder God at September 29, 2012 08:20 AM (vahvH)

107 So what's the deal? Some crazy bitch threaten to spray paint all over this week's cheerleader pic because it insults Allah? Don't cave to terrorism!

Posted by: Lincolntf at September 29, 2012 08:21 AM (HethX)

108 I'll bring the cooler, phoenixgirl!

As a proud dad, I should mention that jakegirl has a high school match at Papago Golf Course today. Luckily she inherited my dad's control rather than my wildness. I suspect she'll be beating me within the next year.

Posted by: jakeman at September 29, 2012 08:21 AM (96M6e)

109 One day, we went to the real golf course to play five holes. I got heatstroke, vomited, and had to call my mom to come and get me.

Lol. I didn't vomit, which was a good thing because I was playing with my boss in the company annual outing, but the first and last time I went golfing was in Iowa in August in the middle of the day, and I was sick for three days afterwards (we got third place). And this was before I moved to WI and started drinking beer.

I can see how people can get caught up in it; life-long challenge to keep improving at whatnot, but unless it can be done indoors and/or in the dark, it's not for me.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at September 29, 2012 08:23 AM (/kI1Q)

110 It's not odd at all.

Preznit 3 Putt doesn't want to see people that are better than him at something. He can go golfing, make sure he only golfs with people he's better than and live in the bubble he's created.

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at September 29, 2012 08:23 AM (Qxdfp)

111 remember when we had real men as presidents? men who did outdoor work? road horses? went hunting? golfed with soldiers? and knew were the "men's" tee was? and if they road a bike....it was a mountain bike with Lance Armstrong as a riding partner.....and they kept up.....now we got mr. ladies tee, mom's jeans, girl's bike face on a basketball for a president......

Posted by: phoenixgirl what did huma abedin know? team dagny at September 29, 2012 08:24 AM (Ho2rs)

112 Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 29, 2012 12:18 PM (lOmbq)

That's how I learned to play.

But....I took a lesson a few years ago and it really helped.

I still suck of course, but it's slightly less embarrassing.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 29, 2012 08:24 AM (2b4yb)

113

Speaking of, where would the pointy young nubile things be?

Paging DiT...

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 29, 2012 08:24 AM (lOmbq)

114 >>>No, it's not. You must not be a golfer. Actually, it is. It's more than once every two weeks, which is more often than the average golfer, especially if you consider seasonal constraints. He's certainly not in the range of heavy golfer, but by any standard for a non-retired person that's a lot of golf.

Posted by: JohnE. at September 29, 2012 08:25 AM (nRTou)

115 Holy crap! Great one-handed catch for TD by Mid Tenn State receiver against Georgia Tech. You'll see it in the highlights, guaranteed.

Posted by: Lincolntf at September 29, 2012 08:25 AM (HethX)

116 There are a lot of things weird about Obama and his golf hobby. For a guy that plays so much and is so competitive at it, according to other writers, then why don't we know what his handicap is? His handicap should be exact and definite with that many rounds. For someone who cares about the game, he should be posting his scores.

My guess is, he's not all that passionate about the game and he's not very good at it for as much as he plays. He doesn't have the time to devote to lessons and then practicing what he's just been taught, so when he plays, it's a good way to get outside, talk to whoever he's chosen to play with, and get some exercise. From the pictures and very few brief video clips of his swing, he's got a lot of moving parts flying elbows, very weak grip, and what looks like a very serious hack swing, so he probably just wants to keep his game on the private side but still likes to let people know he gets out to play because it's viewed as being a somewhat presidential pastime.

Posted by: Dennis at September 29, 2012 08:26 AM (PFQMZ)

117 jakeman what school does she golf for? don't answer if you want ....my kids go to dv...got a marching competition down at basha tonight.....

Posted by: phoenixgirl what did huma abedin know? team dagny at September 29, 2012 08:26 AM (Ho2rs)

118 51 Real men ride in a cart and take beer.

What?
I'll stop at the cocktail cart at the turn and get a proper Tito's Bloody Mary (and tip the bartender), thank you very much.

Unless they're a buncha commies and only have Ketel One.

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at September 29, 2012 08:26 AM (Qxdfp)

119 Also, Wallop of the Telegraph has his history wrong. That Ryder Cup came down to 6 foot putt, not by Olazabal, but by Bernard Langer. And the putting that day was just brutally difficult: Merkin golfer Ray Floyd said he was lucky they weren't counting strokes over all like in regular tournaments, because he probably wouldn't break 90 (and he was right). Merkin golfer Mark Calcavecchia broke down completely over the last few holes, and actually started CRYING when he scum-shanked his tell shot into the water on the second last hole. So, this entire piece is a false premise based on wrong history.

Posted by: Rex the Wonder God at September 29, 2012 08:27 AM (vahvH)

120 but unless it can be done indoors and/or in the dark, it's not for me. Posted by: HeatherRadishÂ™ at September 29, 2012 12:23 PM (/kI1Q) ------------------------------------------------------- Go on......

Posted by: League of Excitable Morons at September 29, 2012 08:28 AM (jucos)

121 A very good poster.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/davedonohue/132443565/lightbox/

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 29, 2012 08:29 AM (2b4yb)

122 just to set and control necessary muscle memory requires something around 20,000 repetitions. There's SCIENCE on this.

*Anything* takes repetitions to achieve proficiency. The ten-thousand-hour rule.

http://is.gd/4ZRev6

That's why I'm not good at anything but the internets. HEh.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at September 29, 2012 08:30 AM (/kI1Q)

123 Y-Not one other thing you need to do is get a set of rules and read them. Everyone can't cheat like Bill Clinton and in Golf part of the game is "honesty". Real golfers despise a cheater.

You can probably download a set of rules free or this one that I used to have which has the rules plus a lot of humorous stories about each rule from Tom Watson. My favorite one was about a ladies tournament when one player wound up in a trap next to a rattle snake that would not move. Normally you do not get to alter anything or touch anything in a trap. By the standard rules she would have had to play through the rattlesnake.

http://is.gd/d5pRbD

Posted by: Vic at September 29, 2012 08:30 AM (YdQQY)

124 Also, it was never Mark Twain who came up with the "good walk spoiled" line. He was dead almost 4 decades before the very first evidence of it ever being said: http://quoteinvestigator.com/2010/05/28/golf-good-walk/ Is this the new standard at AoSHQ: utter crap?

Posted by: Rex the Wonder God at September 29, 2012 08:30 AM (vahvH)

125 It turns out I am a remarkably talented golfer.

Posted by: Preznit M.T. Chair at September 29, 2012 08:31 AM (jucos)

126 117 phoenixgirl, Arcadia. I used to know a bunch of kids from DV, when I coached rowing on Tempe Town Lake. Had to give it up to build my business back up in the past few years, but hope to return to it at some point...I do miss being on the lake every afternoon.

Posted by: jakeman at September 29, 2012 08:32 AM (96M6e)

127

Obama is so narsacistic that if he's not playing in the Ryder Cup he really doesn't give a damn. Its much like anything else in his little world, not showcasing me? Screw it.

Billybob in SC, I took my pool down Thursday and Friday. I got tired of spending $$$ on algecide and chems and the hours to clean out the leaf litter that was making it a daily hour long chore. That and the stinking cover just trapped more crap that got into the pool anyway. Plus it gives me an opportunity to revisit the 'level' bottom and pump location as well as the landscaping around it.

Posted by: Gmac at September 29, 2012 08:32 AM (IanLz)

128 Is this the new standard at AoSHQ: utter crap? Posted by: Rex the Wonder God

Jeeze, who pissed in your cornflakes?

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at September 29, 2012 08:33 AM (CdCPN)

129 I do wonder if the golf games aren't an excuse to cover for something else. The man plays hundreds of rounds of golf and there's no real evidence he's any good at it. Surely even an amateur would get better with that much practice, unless he's doing something else in that time.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 29, 2012 08:33 AM (r4wIV)

130 109 unless it can be done indoors and/or in the dark, it's not for me. Posted by: HeatherRadishÂ™ at September 29, 2012 12:23 PM (/kI1Q) Go on...

Posted by: rickl at September 29, 2012 08:34 AM (sdi6R)

131 Hello from the unfriendly skies.

Posted by: mpfs at September 29, 2012 08:35 AM (9UOK9)

132 Remember when he bowled a 37? There isn't one guy I know with even a modicum of hand eye coordination that can't figure out after a few throws how to get a bowling ball down the lane. He's golf abilities are no better, that's why they don't take pictures of him golfing, he's a spaz. I would wager that after all the golfing he's done he's never pared a hole.

Posted by: lowandslow at September 29, 2012 08:35 AM (GZitp)

133 mpfs!!!!!

Posted by: phoenixgirl what did huma abedin know? team dagny at September 29, 2012 08:36 AM (Ho2rs)

134 OK. I have searched and searched, anyone have the text to the Alamo speech?

All I can find is the command Travis made that they would all die and anyone that wanted to stay move forward. All did but Crockett, who was in a stretcher. He asked for the stretcher to be moved forward.

Posted by: Billy Bob, psuedo intellectual at September 29, 2012 08:36 AM (wR+pz)

135 Jeeze, who pissed in your cornflakes? Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 29, 2012 12:33 PM (CdCPN) ----------------------------------------------------------- Rex is just fact checking our asses.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at September 29, 2012 08:36 AM (jucos)

136 Why?

Because none of the pros can do it as well as he does!

Posted by: Owen's Momma at September 29, 2012 08:37 AM (piMMO)

137 I think he plays golf not because he likes it, but because he can have meetings with people out on the golf course off the record.

Posted by: mama winger at September 29, 2012 08:37 AM (P6QsQ)

138 Maybe he's practicing for his round with Kim Jong Un...for his second term, when has more "flexibility."

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at September 29, 2012 08:37 AM (aQ2q2)

139 Awrighty, folks. I've got some mortar to mix and bricks to lay before it gets to hawt out. Have fun bashing on TFG, golf or otherwise, and I'll be back for an elbow inspection later.

Posted by: jakeman at September 29, 2012 08:37 AM (96M6e)

140 I took my pool down Thursday and Friday. I got tired of spending $$$ on algecide and chems and the hours to clean out the leaf litter that was making it a daily hour long chore.

LOL, I used my cover two years before I just stuck in the shed and never touched it again. It was more trouble than it was worth. As for the pool itself I got rid of it several years ago after two years in a row spending all the time, money, and effort to get it up in the Spring and shut it down in the fall and not using it at all.

The pump motor froze up and rather than spend another wad of money fixing it I just called in contractors to demolish it and bury it.

The grass has completely grown over it now.

Posted by: Vic at September 29, 2012 08:37 AM (YdQQY)

141 or *too* hawt. Pixy, where's my edit function?!?

Posted by: jakeman at September 29, 2012 08:38 AM (96M6e)

142 Hey phoenix! Flying home on US Scare right now. I hate flying anymore. It used to be nice, not anymore.

Posted by: mpfs at September 29, 2012 08:38 AM (9UOK9)

143 Didn't we start hearing the "more than 100" number about a year ago? Presuming he's played steadily since, we can expect up to two hundred rounds in a 4 year term. Pretty much once a week on the nose.
Counting DC weather, probably closer to twice a week per "season". Seems like plenty to me but not too excessive for a committed player.

Posted by: Lincolntf at September 29, 2012 08:40 AM (HethX)

144 <i>If he started at say an 18 handicap, which is about normal for anyone with some history of playing sports requiring any degree of hand-eye coordination, he's going to be challenged to break 100 each and every time he plays.</i>

@Rex the Wonderdog

Golf Digest put his handicap at 17, but a NY Times article said other people described that as "generous". Other accounts give a range of 18-24, whatever that means, but it most likely means to me probably higher than 24. I saw a video of him missing a ball badly at a practice range and most of his shots on the clip went way off to the right. So I think you're right, he doesn't play all that much in or take the time to practice enough in order to get good at it, he just goes out to play to do something different from shooting hoops (which is another game he was never very good at).

Posted by: Dennis at September 29, 2012 08:40 AM (PFQMZ)

145 So... Organization...

Posted by: Truman North, iPhone spatchcocker at September 29, 2012 08:40 AM (1BsTr)

146 Since Dit hasn't supplied the pointy elbows yet for today how about some Oktoberfest which started today.

http://is.gd/KEbvzt

Posted by: Vic at September 29, 2012 08:40 AM (YdQQY)

147 Treatment plan for Libya war victims turns into scandal The country's hospitals were overstretched, both by the number of casualties and by a shortage of staff caused by the flight of foreign workers. Some of those with serious injuries could not be treated, and the first protests against the new administration were to demand that it do something for them. The then-Prime Minister Mahmoud Jibril announced in September that the NTC would set aside $400m (Â£250m) to fund medical care for wounded fighters in overseas hospitals. Initially this was handled by the Global Health Programme, an internationally-supervised scheme. By October it had been handed over to the transitional government. Soon after that, Libyans began showing up at hospitals in Tunisia, Jordan, Turkey, Egypt, and some European countries. Four months later, the scheme has been suspended. With no central oversight, it turns out it was being abused on a massive scale. [...] "They gave us all the requirements - money, hotel bills," he told me. "There were committees in the hospitals there, former rebels, and we gave them the request for money from the government to help get treatment." One doctor I spoke to said people had been coming to her asking for medical certificates even though there was nothing wrong with them. They wanted a free holiday. She said one well-connected man had spent long periods in Tunisia getting physiotherapy, at the government's expense, for an ailment unrelated to the conflict. [...] "They gave us all the requirements - money, hotel bills," he told me. "There were committees in the hospitals there, former rebels, and we gave them the request for money from the government to help get treatment." One doctor I spoke to said people had been coming to her asking for medical certificates even though there was nothing wrong with them. They wanted a free holiday. She said one well-connected man had spent long periods in Tunisia getting physiotherapy, at the government's expense, for an ailment unrelated to the conflict. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-16932448 _________________________ Libya Rebels: US to Send Gadhafi Opponents $25 Million in Aid ABC's Kirit Radia reports from the State Department: After spending weeks trying to determine who the rebels in Libya are and what they want, the Obama administration has notified Congress it intends to provide the rebels with $25 million in assistance. It will not include arms or ammunition. _________________________________ Your tax dollars at work.

Posted by: tasker at September 29, 2012 08:40 AM (r2PLg)

148 Pools? An endless sink hole and money pit. I leave mine open because it takes up most of the back yard and closing it looks like shit.

I did switch to salt, so at least I don't have the chem bills anymore.

OK I am really gone, see ya later.

Posted by: Billy Bob, psuedo intellectual at September 29, 2012 08:41 AM (wR+pz)

149 Ah, he got it up now.

Posted by: Vic at September 29, 2012 08:41 AM (YdQQY)

150 I don't think JEF bowled a 37. There is no way that could be possible. My kids have been able to at least score in the 60's and 70's since the time they were perhaps 3 or 4.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at September 29, 2012 08:41 AM (jucos)

151 "No, it's not. You must not be a golfer. To get any good at the game, especially for someone like Obie who took up the game late in life (Really, a start after age 15 is actually 'late', assuming one has aspirations of ever shooting par.), just to set and control necessary muscle memory requires something around 20,000 repetitions."

What a load of bullshit, that's just an excuse for sucking at golf.

Posted by: lowandslow at September 29, 2012 08:41 AM (GZitp)

152

Do they have an Engish language broadcast? Or secondary audio in English??

>>Spanish-language television network Univision plans to air a television special that it said reveals more violence than previously known, as well as the stories of how many more Operation Fast and Furious victims were killed

@ the Daily Caller

Posted by: Mama AJ at September 29, 2012 08:41 AM (SUKHu)

153

Thanks for the Buzz Patterson stuff.

I read his Clinton stuff cover to cover in no time flat.

That's how amazing they were to me.

Posted by: concrete girl at September 29, 2012 08:41 AM (y2Ojs)

154 Playing trumps watching, so I don't see this as a problem. If anything, its a slight mark in his favor. I see this post as totally pointless. Some guy likes to play softball instead of watch the world series, run instead of follow the careers of runners, etc. Who the heck cares? How is it a bad thing?

Posted by: Random at September 29, 2012 08:41 AM (u8eBQ)

155 Golf, meh. If you can't shoot the ball with a shotgun while in flight then what good is it?

Posted by: Berserker at September 29, 2012 08:42 AM (FMbng)

156 Didn't we start hearing the "more than100" number about a year ago? Presuming he's played steadily since, we can expectup totwo hundred rounds in a 4 year term.Posted by: Lincolntf

Keith Koffler at WhiteHouseDossier.com has been keeping pretty close track: Aug 4th - 104 rounds.

Remember, fundraising is a priority.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at September 29, 2012 08:42 AM (CdCPN)

157 @ 150 I bowled a 31 in high school gym class. Of course, I was also wearing a really tight pencil skirt. (That was before our school mandated actual uniform skirts)

Posted by: Ruby at September 29, 2012 08:44 AM (vt4Ip)

158 I see this post as totally pointless.Posted by: Random

What a coincidence!

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at September 29, 2012 08:44 AM (CdCPN)

159 >>> What a coincidence! Ha. I walked into that.

Posted by: Random at September 29, 2012 08:45 AM (u8eBQ)

160 "I don't think JEF bowled a 37. There is no way that could be possible."

Sure he did, don't you remember that? Then the clueless fuck was bragging on the Tonight Show about getting his average up to 125 after practicing on the White House alley.

Posted by: lowandslow at September 29, 2012 08:46 AM (GZitp)

161
No, it's not odd at all. Why would the Solipsist-in-Chief want to watch *someone else* play golf? Especially someone who just possibly might be better at it than He is?

No: at all times and in every thing, all that matters to The One is Himself. If He is not doing it - and in particular, if He's not being admired for doing it - then it is of no concern to Him.

Posted by: Brown Line at September 29, 2012 08:53 AM (AGUDW)

162 Not only do you not hear about how good/bad a golfer Obama is, he regularly takes 7-9 hours to golf. That's a lot of unmonitored time for TFG to be "playing" with the boys or meeting with someone off the record.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 29, 2012 08:53 AM (XDfSm)

163 Talk to any of your friends or family that golf frequently, and I can assure you they are watching or paying attention to the Ryder Cup. I love golf. I can't stand the Ryder Cup.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 29, 2012 08:55 AM (X3lox)

164 Golf is a trapping of the presidency. That's Obama in a Communist-covered nutshell. He loves the power and the illusion of wealth. He hates the work necessary to earn them.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at September 29, 2012 08:56 AM (eHIJJ)

165 not odd for a narcissistic ... I bet he doesn't watch as much hoops as everyone assumes either ...

Posted by: JeffC at September 29, 2012 08:57 AM (ulP1p)

166 Not only do you not hear about how good/bad a golfer Obama is, he regularly takes 7-9 hours to golf. Anybody who bowls a 37 can't be good at any sport. I've seen one barky swing and it was a total joke. Without a doubt he cheats his ass off and lies like a banshee about his score (as he does with everything). I would guess that in a legitimate round of golf Barky would hit around a 150. That's a lot of unmonitored time for TFG to be "playing" with the boys or meeting with someone off the record. Posted by: Lizzy at September 29, 2012 12:53 PM (XDfSm) Yep. But, he's safer away from the White House. I wish he did nothing but stay on the golf course.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 29, 2012 08:58 AM (X3lox)

167 "154 Playing trumps watching, so I don't see this as a problem. If anything, its a slight mark in his favor. "

To be honest, nobody really watches any golf till the last few holes.

Posted by: lowandslow at September 29, 2012 08:58 AM (GZitp)

168 So, Rand's bid to stop sending our tax dollars overseas was beaten, eh?

Posted by: Owen's Momma at September 29, 2012 08:59 AM (piMMO)

169 RandPAC's latest ad.

http://www.randpacusa.com/foreign_aid_mb.aspx?pid=0928a

Posted by: Owen's Momma at September 29, 2012 09:01 AM (piMMO)

170 The Bush family has historical ties to golf- the Walker Cup in named after GWB's great-grandfather, George Herbert Walker. He was the head of the USGA.

Posted by: Moonbeam at September 29, 2012 09:03 AM (1k4dd)

171 Obama likes everything about being president except for the actual work. He'd much rather be hosting some dinner/event, jetting off to a fundraiser, golfing, vacationing, watching his little drone snuff flick, or giving out other people's money and then taking credit for it. So golf is just one of his favorites escapes from work - and Michelle.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 29, 2012 09:03 AM (XDfSm)

172 When you are a mega narcissist, you can't accept that there is someone more awesome.

Posted by: Buffalobob at September 29, 2012 09:05 AM (x+7qA)

173 Obama golfs for the same reason he has 26 cabin staff and 5 chefs on AF1. Displacing our service members from their golf courses or making them wait on him in excessive fashion its all the same to that JEPOS. (the cabin staff and chefs if from that Presidential perks gone royal book --it was linked here earlier this week)

Posted by: Palerider at September 29, 2012 09:06 AM (5CusZ)

174 "not odd for a narcissistic" Look, I don't like Obama, but this is just stupid. You don't have to be a narcissist to play a sport and not watch it. IF ANYTHING, most people would be better off with more doing physical activity and less watching. Did Bush follow mountain biking closely, or running closely, or weightlifting closely? But he did all of these, and was in great physical shape. I simply won't begrudge Presidents for exercising -- I think it's a very good idea.

Posted by: Random at September 29, 2012 09:08 AM (u8eBQ)

175 Also, Golf is fun to do -- walking around outdoors, the social bit, the concentration, the smells of fresh cut grass, and so on. But it's boring as hell to watch on TV. Kind of like baseball -- love playing it, watching it is very meh.

Posted by: Random at September 29, 2012 09:09 AM (u8eBQ)

176

In general- "white collar" people who play a lot golf also watch a lot of golf, while "blue collar" people and rural folks who play a lot of golf do not typically watch much golf.

Yes, Clinton comes from a blue collar rural background, but Governor is certainly a white collar job.

Posted by: bugle boy at September 29, 2012 09:11 AM (cdYUQ)

177 174: B.S. Barky doesn't golf for any other reason than to make the SS be his caddy and displace our military folks who normally get access to those courses when they are not putting their lives on the line. He had no interest in golf before he was elected and he won't have any interest in it after he is sent packing, its just a handy excuse to lord it over some of the "bitter clinger types"

Posted by: Palerider at September 29, 2012 09:14 AM (5CusZ)

178 Posted by: Random at September 29, 2012 01:08 PM (u8eBQ)

Of course it's a stupid point, but we like making fun of TFG, so any reason is good enough.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 29, 2012 09:14 AM (2b4yb)

179 charlie some people just miss the point completely.........

Posted by: phoenixgirl what did huma abedin know? team dagny at September 29, 2012 09:15 AM (Ho2rs)

180 Didn't I admit it's a stupid point at the end of the post? I just find it very odd. Mountain biking and running aren't major pro sports, so it's not a great comparison.

Posted by: JohnE. at September 29, 2012 09:17 AM (nRTou)

181 This might be the single most intriguing thread of any website I will read today/this week/this month? I have sometimes wondered if his "golf games" involve drugs or something sexual. I don't get the gay vibe from him though. He is hiding something. Remember he also loses his press corps on occasion. For a man who LOVES attention and the limelight, to lose the people who report on your every move is telling. He also has supposedly attended at least one of his daughter's soccer games, at a place and time they were not playing. He is hiding something. If not illegality or immorality, perhaps medical treatments?

Posted by: Baldy at September 29, 2012 09:20 AM (opS9C)

182 So, Rand's bid to stop sending our tax dollars overseas was beaten, eh?Posted by: Owen's Momma

Not entirely clear what is happening. From the NYT farticle:

"The Obama administration notified Congress on Friday that it would provide EgyptÂ’s new government an emergency cash infusion of $450 million, but the aid immediately encountered resistance from a prominent lawmaker wary of foreign aid and EgyptÂ’s new course under the leadership of the Muslim Brotherhood.

...

An influential Republican lawmaker, Representative Kay Granger of Texas, immediately announced that she would use her position as chairwoman of the House appropriations subcommittee overseeing foreign aid to block the distribution of the money. She said the American relationship with Egypt Â“has never been under more scrutinyÂ” than it is in the wake of the election of President Mohamed Morsi, a former leader of the Muslim Brotherhood."

So, stalled in committee until Sen. McPain gives a 'my friends' speech and rolls the House members?

BTW, hated Throw Momma From the train. Just an awful piece of 80's drivel.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at September 29, 2012 09:22 AM (CdCPN)

183 Barack Hussein Obama doesn't like black people (especially American blacks), & he deeply hates that he's Â½ black, & though he doesn't care for the game, it lets him stand out there for a while & tell himself that he's not "one of those".

Posted by: Stark Dickflüssig at September 29, 2012 09:23 AM (riVhr)

184

Obama doesn't much like people or work. Doesn't he have a reputation for coldness and avoiding socializing? Walking around the golf course gets him away from both.

Posted by: JustLikeDavidHasselhoff at September 29, 2012 09:26 AM (Rwrs+)

185 Hacky hacks happening here:

#MittZingers

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at September 29, 2012 09:32 AM (CdCPN)

186 Few people have seen him actually golf. They're just trysts with Reggie. Time to get his gay on, you know.

Posted by: Alabama Mike at September 29, 2012 09:47 AM (Id+yE)

187 Sort of O/T but sort of connected.

Someone sent me this message:

In a search for the meaning of the word, "shart," a wiki answer turned up three interesting subjects under the question
1) Official Obama website
2) 5 Signs of Bi-Polar
3) Why men fall in love

Is this code, Morons?

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, unbanned, ready to get this done at September 29, 2012 09:53 AM (baL2B)

188 A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms. Enthusiasms ...

Posted by: president say stuff at September 29, 2012 09:53 AM (QupBk)

189

Obama doesnt know or care about the Ryder Cup because a) its a team-effort format and b) its media/public attention not directed at or about him.

Not that hard to figure out.

Posted by: MikeD at September 29, 2012 10:13 AM (p8QOg)

190 "Of course it's a stupid point, but we like making fun of TFG, so any reason is good enough." Yeah, I get what your alleged goal is -- but pointing out how Barack Obama doesn't WATCH a sport, instead DOES it ... is pointing out something that resounds to his benefit, not detriment. Seriously, do you think watching others do is somehow noble, particularly when compared to doing oneself -- however poorly?

Posted by: Random at September 29, 2012 10:16 AM (u8eBQ)

191 Not odd at all, Obama believes that all ought to be watching and talking exclusively about Him, not the Ryder Cup players. What have they ever done that was important?

Posted by: sd at September 29, 2012 10:17 AM (cNhPf)

192 Shit, too late for anyone to read this, but that story about Dubya was laugh-out-loud hi-larious! I play golf and love the game for the same reasons I love fly-fishing; it's something you can do but never master for as long as you are able to walk. The course will always win. The fish will always win. And I say that knowing I'm pretty good at both.

Posted by: model_1066 at September 29, 2012 10:18 AM (yYKoR)

193 Well, it would make perfect sense for Obama not to take interest in the Ryder Cup. It divides the wrong people. It divides the US and Europe -- his buds. And, the US typically wins.

Posted by: the man of the world! at September 29, 2012 10:25 AM (LpQbZ)

194 Seriously, do you think watching others do is somehow noble, particularly when compared to doing oneself -- however poorly?
That sound is a clue flying over your head.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 29, 2012 10:40 AM (r4wIV)

195 GW Bush and Dad39 at the Ryder Cup with Babs shaking hands and signing autographs.

Posted by: Beto at September 29, 2012 10:40 AM (BAnPT)

196 Ha ha. They just showed both Bushes at the Ryder Cup. ..In their UAS shirts no less

Posted by: flyovergal at September 29, 2012 10:41 AM (tfg7i)

197 Ummm USA of course. New moron should be forgiven.

Posted by: flyovergal at September 29, 2012 10:42 AM (tfg7i)

198 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: steevy at September 29, 2012 10:48 AM (6o4Fb)

199 He just likes to play with balls that are about the size of Hillary's testicles. Since he doesnt have any himself, its not surprising that he fixates on golf.

Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka wright at September 29, 2012 10:49 AM (ovpNn)

200 too narcissistic to be a fan of others, don't ya know?

Posted by: joeindc44 at September 29, 2012 10:53 AM (Z3ckx)

201 Obama was seriously injured when he played his first game of golf. He fell off the ball washer.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at September 29, 2012 10:56 AM (iAUf+)

202 Because liberals favor the natural environment (forests, beaches, lakes, rivers, etc) over man-made, water-sucking, fertilizer-laden, family-separating, elitist sports like golf. your average Republican will go off and play golf with his buddies (business partners), enjoy getting naked in the showers with his buddies (latent homos), watch football at the bar TV, get his buzz on all the while ignoring his wife and kids who are at home working on their depression and drug addictions. Liberals, on the other hand, will take the whole family hiking or surfing and enjoy family togetherness

Posted by: walter at September 29, 2012 10:57 AM (a+BXY)

203 Come on...it really isn't too hard to figure out, now is it?

Posted by: Harrison J. Bounel at September 29, 2012 10:57 AM (WMeMr)

204 It looks like old Punch kicked the bucket. Reading the obit, of course they act like he was a hero. The news media - reporters and publishers, are notorious for promoting themselves as heros when in reality they are mostly nothing but leftists and dirt bags in their personal lives.

Posted by: Redd at September 29, 2012 11:45 AM (guxHP)

Does the obit talk about how he under-reported the Holocaust? The cocksucker caught a lot of heat for that, hopefully less than he's getting now.

Posted by: Captain Hate (more dagny and less curious) at September 29, 2012 10:58 AM (enXB1)

205 Butthurt trolls are butthurt.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at September 29, 2012 10:58 AM (CdCPN)

206 Or they will go to a NASCAR event and watch cars drive round and round in circles

Republicans = golf, NASCAR, watch football on TV, beer guts
Liberals = surf, hike, hang glide, windsurf, have balls, adventurous

Posted by: walter at September 29, 2012 11:05 AM (a+BXY)

207 There's nothing more depressing, yet amusing than ostentatious displays of wannabe wholesomeness! Thanks for nothing, walter!

Posted by: model_1066 at September 29, 2012 11:07 AM (yYKoR)

208 Gay stalker trolls are crack whores with daddy issues.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at September 29, 2012 11:11 AM (CdCPN)

209 Why is walter badmouthing golfers when the topic of the thread is about the JEF playing it with great frequency? Is he secretly disgusted by the JEF? Is he accusing him of being a latent homo?

Posted by: Captain Hate (more dagny and less curious) at September 29, 2012 11:12 AM (enXB1)

210 We are not wholesome; we smoke weed, we aren't Christians and we do Yoga and meditate ... we are just completely different animals.

We dont have the aggression you guys do; we are at peace with life and do not understand your hate and violence toward others.

Posted by: walter at September 29, 2012 11:13 AM (a+BXY)

211 The point, Captain Hate, is that JEF doesnt really like golf or drinking beer or eating burgers or killing Afghani's or torturing or any of that Republican shit...he likes to body surf

Posted by: walter at September 29, 2012 11:20 AM (a+BXY)

212 Ok, which one of you morons is socking walter?

Posted by: Captain Hate (more dagny and less curious) at September 29, 2012 11:22 AM (enXB1)

213 Ok, which one of you morons is socking walter?Posted by: Captain Hate

All trolls are Average Joe what sucks cock by choice in full neo-nazi regalia.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at September 29, 2012 11:35 AM (CdCPN)

214 Just as with about everything else Obama does, he's faking it at golf too. Never really played before becoming president, now plays lots because even though he's not much of a golfer, playing the game doesn't suck as much as actual Presidentin'. His only reason for playing golf is to try to show how good he is at it. Except that he sucks. Otherwise wouldn't we be hearing so much more about his actual scores after these 104 (or more) rounds?

Posted by: Giacomo at September 29, 2012 11:38 AM (PbJOk)

215 Several commenters have come close to it...

Obozo's not there to play the game (seriously), he's there to be the star.

You don't hear that much about his partners, his score, or even the people (who might play with him) praise his skill, nor do I think he purposefully seeks out superior opponents (say what you will about Boehner... word is it that he kicked Obozo's ass when they played one game together... they've NEVER had a rematch).

Consider how you would play a game of golf with that legendary golfer, Kim Jong Il... you'd praise EVERY stroke and putt, and you wouldn't beat him either... or else... he WAS the star when he hit the links; everybody else there, was there to make him look good.

The other reason for being on the golf course... that's where the 'big boys' are, and private deals are made.

And, it gets him away from Chewbacca.

Posted by: CPT. Charles at September 29, 2012 12:12 PM (1GunI)

216

I think he plays golf, as a big 'Fuck You' to...us...all of us.

Even to the suckers who voted for him.

Remember the times he did that 'middle finger scratch' to the side of his face?

That right there, speaks volumes...about what a petty, spiteful asshole he is.

It costs us money, every time a president leaves the White House.

So there's that, too.

He loves being the 'most expensive president ever'.

I'm sure it feeds his ego, to see the whole golf course shut down, while he is playing.

That's another part of the....'Fuck You'.

And as others have mentioned...a golf course is a good place to have private meetings.

No official White House logs.

The media are kept back, behind the perimeter that the secret service sets up.

It's perfect.

I don't think he cares about golf, the game itself, at all.

Posted by: wheatie at September 29, 2012 12:28 PM (l5RhJ)

217 As tot he Ryder Cup, America doesn't do "national" teams. That's a Eurotrash thing. There's a reason the federal government never got involved heavily with the Olympics before Barky (individual cities and states could make their own bids for the games but that was about it). There's a reason our federal government never payed Olympic athletes (they had to pay their own way or get private charity to help them - even though they had to be amateurs). The reason is that we don't view our government as owning us. We don't have any "national" team to compete with other nations. We have a country that places emphasis on private, professional sports leagues (where the best of the best play for our entertainment). That is what America has always been about. That's why Americans never cared even a tenth as much about the Olympics as the rest of the world. That's why the Ryder Cup and the Davis Cup are silly Eurotrash pieces of sports that already have their professional major tournaments where the best individuals display their talents. I don't get where people have started thiniking that we have some sort of USA team to do anything of this sort. It's silliness. None of this has anything to do with Barky and his retarded golf game, of course. He's clearly a cheater, a liar, and would be beaten off the course by any half-coordinated 12 year old.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 29, 2012 12:36 PM (X3lox)

218 On the back nine nobody can see you light up...

Posted by: lieter at September 29, 2012 12:38 PM (tEGKv)

219 Remember the times he did that 'middle finger scratch' to the side of his face?
That right there, speaks volumes...about what a petty, spiteful asshole he is.

****

I am enraged every time I think of it.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 29, 2012 12:38 PM (piMMO)

220 How .bout them TSA government crooks going thru your luggage right now at the airports? Sure saves them a lot of midnight skulking and messy breaking and entering at your residence.

Posted by: yakima canutt at September 29, 2012 12:53 PM (+7R1W)

221

219....I am enraged every time I think of it.

Yeah, NDH....one of the many clues that were there in 2008, and yet people voted for him anyway.

Posted by: wheatie at September 29, 2012 01:17 PM (l5RhJ)

222 "Liberals, on the other hand, will take the whole family hiking or surfing and enjoy family togetherness." Liberals have families? At the rate they abort their pregnancies, who knew?

Posted by: Natasha at September 29, 2012 01:19 PM (pyYXJ)

223 I believe he's only interested in golf because on the course there are no recordings like there are in the Oval Office. He gets to keep his secrets this way and we will never know what was said.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at September 29, 2012 01:37 PM (KL49F)

224

Mainly because Obama sucks at golf. I grew up as a kid in Dallas playing 36 holes a day when I could and caddying at Tennison public for Trevino and his crew. A threesome that was ask to let Obama play with them would stay a threesome when they saw Barry's swing. Not even taking in account him being a lefty. His swing sucks. And as far as him being a good basketball player , I'm 61 and I'll play him one on one anyplace anytime for any amount. Maybe he can get sotomayer to ref. I'll still take him.

Posted by: rik at September 29, 2012 02:02 PM (gQxm3)

225 Ironically, Pres. Bush was at the Ryder Cup this weekend. It was nice to see him. He looks good. He was hanging with Micheal Jordan, oddly, at the time the camera panned him.

Posted by: patriot at September 29, 2012 02:36 PM (LpQbZ)

226 We don't have any "national" team to compete with other nations. eh? http://web.worldbaseballclassic.com/index.jsp The World Baseball Classic is an international baseball tournament sanctioned by the International Baseball Federation (IBAF) and created by Major League Baseball (MLB), the Major League Baseball Players Association (MLBPA), and other professional baseball leagues and their players associations around the world. and http://www.ussoccer.com/Teams/US-Women.aspx The United States women's national soccer team, often referred to as USWNT, represents the United States of America in international association football (soccer) competitions. It is controlled by United States Soccer Federation and competes in CONCACAF (the Confederation of North, Central American and Caribbean Association Football). The U.S. team won the first ever Women's World Cup in 1991, and has since been a superpower in women's soccer.[1] It is currently ranked first in the world by the FIFA Women's World Rankings.[2] The team has also won the 1999 Women's World Cup, four Olympic women's gold medals (1996,[3] 2004,[4] 2008[5] and 2012) and eight Algarve Cups (2000, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2007, 2008, 2010 and 2011).

Posted by: patriot at September 29, 2012 02:46 PM (LpQbZ)

227 I live on a golf course. I am a member of one of the better clubs in the area. My business has 6 employees. And somehow the president has more time to golf than I do?

Posted by: AndrewsDad at September 29, 2012 03:17 PM (A8dkc)

228 Posted by: patriot at September 29, 2012 06:46 PM (LpQbZ) You might as well have thrown in Miss America and Miss USA competing in the Miss World and Miss Universe competitions. Same thing. As to the women's soccer team ... need I say anything more about how distinctly un-American the idea is. I mean, really. We DO NOT do national teams, really. I explained how this worked with the Olympics teams (whereas all the other teams are supported by their governments, and they were even professionals for their various governments in the days of the amateur competitions, which only the US followed since we were the only ones who didn't have "national" teams). In America, the federal government doesn't work to get the Olympics. That is for cities and states to pursue on their own - and for which they have to pay for it on their own, too. There's a reason why the Olympics are huge money losers ... except in America. Because of the totally different approach we have to it and all sports, in general. Yes, we put together ad hoc teams to take part in these silly Eurotrash competitions, but American sports exists without any of this crap. The Ryder Cup could stop tomorrow and pretty much none of professional golf would be affected in any way. It's not a big thing, though the MFM is pushing it more and more since they are constantly trying to turn us into Eurotrash, too. Don't fall for this crap. This is not how America operates.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 29, 2012 03:45 PM (X3lox)

229 Not even Tiger Woods plays that much golf, Obama is jjst wandering around walking off his trice weekly peyote buzz, being one with nature and all that.

Posted by: Rmoney Voter at September 29, 2012 07:53 PM (JtyGg)

230 Oh my goodness - the girls at Hillbuzz have a different reason Obama goes golfing so frequently.

Posted by: theslob at September 30, 2012 06:59 AM (a/Plk)

231 Obama (17-handicap)

Posted by: Sabba Hillel at September 30, 2012 09:34 AM (tqWUO)

232 I'm goin' with the Chicago Hillbuzz explanation. It makes COMPLETE sense and I should have thought of it myself. Gosh almighty. Those Chicago Boyz have heard the underground smut for years and it ALL FITS IN, if you know what I mean.

Posted by: wildwood15 at September 30, 2012 01:00 PM (UTY2+)

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