July 13, 2012

Will Condoleeza Be a Pleeza?
— Ace

I don't have much of an opinion, except that I'm marginally inclined against her, so I'll just link some blathering about it.

By the way, I think this is manufactured news -- when there's no news, you make some up. But whatevs.

Ramesh Ponuru calls the hypothetical choice "nuts." The balls on that guy.

Peggy Noonan is a big fan, if you care.

You know what's shocking? Noonan says Rice is 57 years old. Fifty seven? She looks 40.

No link for Politico, but Sarah Palin says Rice would be a "wonderful" Vice President and notes Rice has far more experience than the current President. She gives Rice a qualified pass on her "mild" support of abortion, stating that Rice wouldn't have responsibility over that issue anyway. (Unless, of course, she became President, which is something to consider.)

Bill Kristol is ambivalent, but digs her high 66-24 favorable ratings.

Rice wowed the crowd—and seemed to impress Mitt Romney, who was standing beside her—when she spoke in a featured role at a Romney campaign event two weeks ago in Park City, Utah. Rice is qualified, would be a poised (if novice) candidate, and would complement Romney in terms of area of expertise, gender (obviously!), and life experience. Rice offers an unusual combination of being at once a reassuring pick (she served at the highest levels of the federal government for eight years) and an exciting one.

I'd really like to hear this speech where she supposedly "wowed" the crowd. Buzzfeed has a very poor audio copy, which I can't listen to because it's so bad. (Surreptitious recording, I imagine.) I kind of like Rice, but while her bio is kind of wow-worthy, she's never wowed me with a statement or speech.

I think that's why I'm against her. While she seemed like a rock star, and I rooted for her like she was a rock star, and even sometimes dresses like a rock star, she actually never had a hit album, and ten years later we'll all still sort of waiting for her to demonstrate her rock star status.

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1 Rice is also a huge football fan and can talk NFL with anyone. She is waifu material for any conservative male.

Posted by: Chris R, red in NY-9 at July 13, 2012 11:04 AM (v362Z)

2 You know what's shocking? Noonan says Rice is 57 years old. Fifty seven? She looks 40.




Black women are collagen blessed. 








Posted by: Tami at July 13, 2012 11:05 AM (X6akg)

3 I thought the Romney camp already said....."No Condi".

Posted by: wheatie at July 13, 2012 11:05 AM (MbB0O)

4 Anyone but Biden.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at July 13, 2012 11:05 AM (tGvo7)

5 NO NO NO

Posted by: Jones in CO at July 13, 2012 11:05 AM (8sCoq)

6 SUCK IT, KRISTOL~!

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at July 13, 2012 11:05 AM (Vcb44)

7 Is Romney about to announce his VP? According to Drudge, he's going to hit all the TV networks.

Posted by: HH at July 13, 2012 11:05 AM (v+ExF)

8 I have decided to be a low info voter so the CFM Boots gets my vote.

Wow, how freeing, I don't have to even think about politics until vote day.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 13, 2012 11:06 AM (Y+wkX)

9 Love those F* me, F* me boots.

And greetings from Calgary today.  On the way home.

Posted by: John P. Squibob at July 13, 2012 11:06 AM (zBEST)

10 inclined against her..

Clearly you're a racist Ace.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at July 13, 2012 11:07 AM (da5Wo)

11 Condi has more balls that Mitt, Joe, and The Wiz combined.    The mullahs in Iran will start peeing in their pants.

Posted by: Mr. Peobody at July 13, 2012 11:07 AM (mgl7C)

12 She wouldn't be a horrible choice, but not a great one either.  She would have limited appeal because of her relationship with the Bush Administration.

Posted by: Alex at July 13, 2012 11:07 AM (79B50)

13 I like her a lot.

That said, it would be a huge mistake.

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at July 13, 2012 11:07 AM (Qxdfp)

14 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: steevy at July 13, 2012 11:08 AM (Ts9tU)

15 I think everyone pretty much talked this subject out last night.

Posted by: toby928© at July 13, 2012 11:08 AM (QupBk)

16 Oh for crying out loud.  If you can't decide that Rice is a rotten pick then pack it in and stop thinking about politics.  It won't happen.  I'm not going to waste my time explaining why.  That should be obvious.  Nice try using Palin, though.  A lot of people will fall for that one.

Posted by: Jaynie59 at July 13, 2012 11:08 AM (4zKCA)

17
Trial ballon....

Either by the Mitt folks to guage reaction......

Or by Condi fans to convince the Mitt folks.




Longshot either way.

Posted by: fixerupper at July 13, 2012 11:08 AM (C8hzL)

18 I go with her if Mitt made The Mustache SecState.

Posted by: John P. Squibob at July 13, 2012 11:08 AM (zBEST)

19 she's fine with me. I am completely ambivalent about the wisdom of the choice; and as far as I've seen, I've liked her personally. Is Veep really that big of a deal that she wouldn't be a great Veep? I mean, damn. Biden is doing it now.

Posted by: BlackOrchidPinesForDagny at July 13, 2012 11:08 AM (J6kXj)

20 Still holding out for Palin, eh?

Posted by: jwest at July 13, 2012 11:09 AM (ZDsRL)

21 She's a smart woman; she's never held elected office, though, and she's going to raise Iraq again. It's not the best choice Mitt could make.

Posted by: joncelli, heartless Con and all around unpleasant guy at July 13, 2012 11:09 AM (RD7QR)

22 Why are you even talking about this Ace. 1) Drudge has the worst record in the universe at predicting VP candidates. He keeps headlining phony predictions over and over. 2) Condi Rice says she's not interested in the slightest in being VP. 3) Romney's campaign says she's not even being considered nor in the running.

Posted by: Village Idiot at July 13, 2012 11:09 AM (utXSy)

23 Class, I need you to fantasize to climax about Condi Rice. You may now begin. ...I already have.

Posted by: Professor Kubistant at July 13, 2012 11:09 AM (FcR7P)

24 >She would have limited appeal because of her relationship with the Bush Administration.

Posted by: Alex at July 13, 2012 03:07 PM (79B50)


Are you kidding? If Romney picks Condi, Obama gets his wish- he gets to run against George W Bush

Posted by: Jones in CO at July 13, 2012 11:09 AM (8sCoq)

25 Condi ain't going to happen.

Posted by: steevy at July 13, 2012 11:09 AM (Ts9tU)

26 Not gonna happen. Unless Team Romney are a buncha idiots.

Posted by: Soothsayer at July 13, 2012 11:09 AM (G/zuv)

27 Although I respect the woman a great deal and admire her talents, I am opposed to picking her for veep. Too closely associated with Bush....for starters. That being said, even if Romney were to pick the spawn of Michael Vick and Barbara Mikulski, I will swim through piranha-infested waters to vote for him.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 13, 2012 11:10 AM (C8mVl)

28 Lets not forget the main reason to support her : http://tinyurl.com/85oydpl

Posted by: Dr Spank at July 13, 2012 11:10 AM (4cRnj)

29 *COUGH* *PALESTINIAN ELECTIONS* *COUGH*

Posted by: Underground Vulgarian at July 13, 2012 11:10 AM (j5b23)

30 She's pro-choice, but not pro-choice pro-choice.

Posted by: Whoopi Goldberg at July 13, 2012 11:10 AM (mQMnK)

31

 

I'm sure that Team Barky would love to have Condi to fight against.

She doesn't fight back.

 

Posted by: wheatie at July 13, 2012 11:10 AM (MbB0O)

32

She seems good enough but I prefer Paul Ryan.

Posted by: Purity Of Essence at July 13, 2012 11:11 AM (2EdUM)

33 Condi is a wonk; she's no politician. And she has no interest in being a politician. She doesn't have the personality for campaigning and she knows it. This is a stupid rumor.

Posted by: Soothsayer at July 13, 2012 11:11 AM (G/zuv)

34 I'd enjoy her candidacy if for nothing more than watching the dims try to oppose a black female candidate without being the racists they always accuse us of being for opposing Obama.

Yeah, it's a run-on sentence, wanna fight about it?

Posted by: Lone Marauder, pre-denounced for your convenience at July 13, 2012 11:11 AM (/bVuS)

35 24 Rice is Secretary of State material for Romney's administration, but not veep material. She's never run for any kind of office, is too wedded to Bush and too far to the left for the social cons to be comfortable with her. She also lacks what every veep candidate needs: serious ability at being an attack dog.

Posted by: Chris R, red in NY-9 at July 13, 2012 11:11 AM (v362Z)

36 I like and respect her. I think she would be a good choice, and will be a good VP. She's affable, intelligent and capable.

Posted by: Jordan at July 13, 2012 11:12 AM (RSG1I)

37 I've notice that Dems like to push the meme that the Veep should be looked at as "one heartbeat away" when it comes to Republican choices, but not necessarily of their own.

Posted by: John P. Squibob at July 13, 2012 11:12 AM (zBEST)

38 I'd name a lobotomized chimp to be VP, just to note the improvement it would be over Biden.

Posted by: nickless at July 13, 2012 11:12 AM (MMC8r)

39 I dunno, I like her as a person, but I'm a bit disturbed that once again, we're looking at race and gender as being the big qualities.  Blacks aren't going to vote for a Republican anyway.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 13, 2012 11:12 AM (DuH+r)

40 She doesn't fight back. She was an awful spokesperson for Bush. Terrible!

Posted by: Soothsayer at July 13, 2012 11:12 AM (G/zuv)

41 I think Romney can do better. But maybe it would reduce charges of racism towards him by 5% or so.

Posted by: slatz at July 13, 2012 11:12 AM (mE0Rl)

42 4---" Anyone but Biden." I would vote for Romney if he picked Biden. And let's face it, Biden is balmy enough to accept the offer!!!

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 13, 2012 11:12 AM (C8mVl)

43 This is all bullshit anyway- she said publicly a week or two ago, words to the effect, 'no fucking way'

Romney needs a Veep who can debate on the economy and immigration, and all the ways the Dems and the current 'president' have taken a shit all over our Constitution

Posted by: Jones in CO at July 13, 2012 11:13 AM (8sCoq)

44 And Rumsfeld wasn't too impressed with Condi, was my impression. Cheney, too? Maybe?

Posted by: Soothsayer at July 13, 2012 11:13 AM (G/zuv)

45

this is a great thing for us to be discussing.  Killed the NAACP boo bird talk.  Killed the Bain capital felony talk. 

Puts the focus on Romney.  Shows GOP's willingness to consider blacks/females which isn't a good enough reason to pick someone, but its great for a hypothetical discussion.

Well played drudge well played.  Condi isn't going to be the pick, but this is a welcome distraction in my opinion.

 

 

Posted by: california red at July 13, 2012 11:13 AM (xC7pk)

46 Who cares? When is the last time we had a fap worthy Veep? That's the most important thing.

Posted by: Midaz at July 13, 2012 11:13 AM (cNFEL)

47 Romney needs a Veep who can debate on the economy... Ding! Ding! Ding! /rubber chicken falls from the ceiling Give that man a cigar!

Posted by: Soothsayer at July 13, 2012 11:14 AM (G/zuv)

48 Let's see, Condi Rice...W ties, abortion stance, no elected experience, lots of unknowns...what could possibly go wrong...? (Which is sad, I'd love to see the media expose itself once and for all for what it was in reaction!)

Posted by: Brother Cavil presents at July 13, 2012 11:15 AM (GBXon)

49 I would vote for Romney if he picked Biden.
And let's face it, Biden is balmy enough to accept the offer!!!

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 13, 2012 03:12 PM (C8mVl)

 

 

This is the right attitude times 1000

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at July 13, 2012 11:15 AM (mFxQX)

50 I like and respect her. I think she would be a good choice, and will be a good VP. She's affable, intelligent and capable. Posted by: Jordan And there it is. Condi gets the endorsement from stupid fake internet conservatives.

Posted by: Soothsayer at July 13, 2012 11:16 AM (G/zuv)

51 I do believe this  rumor  was shot down on this very blog yesterday evening. 

Posted by: BurtTC at July 13, 2012 11:16 AM (TOk1P)

52 >I'd enjoy her candidacy if for nothing more than watching the dims try to oppose a black female candidate


I'm not sure how- haven't worked out all the moves yet- but I'm pretty sure if Romney picked a black person for Veep, he'd be a racist for doing so


Posted by: Jones in CO at July 13, 2012 11:16 AM (8sCoq)

53 Note to self : read entire post before commenting.

Posted by: Dr Spank at July 13, 2012 11:16 AM (4cRnj)

54 All those who don't want to see Rice as the Veep selection should go and call their Sentors and tell them to vote No on the Law of the Sea Treaty (LOST)

How are they connected? They aren't and I don't care. That mutant beast of a treaty needs to be killed.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at July 13, 2012 11:16 AM (Vcb44)

55

"When is the last time we had a fap worthy Veep?"

 

I'll have to think about that one.

Posted by: jwest at July 13, 2012 11:16 AM (ZDsRL)

56 Gallup has a new poll out that puts Romney and Barry at a 46% dead heat. Where's Greg/Dr Smith to tell us about Romney fading fast in the polls?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 13, 2012 11:16 AM (MX8Gv)

57 Rice is interesting because she can't be called a bimbo or a bitch, because she is friendly, but serious. Dems would have to settle for evil, which pretty much puts her in the same league as most republican men. In that regard, she'd be a good pic if Romney really wants a female vp

Posted by: Lauren at July 13, 2012 11:16 AM (21P0v)

58 Romney could pick Crystal Gail Mangum and I'd still vote for him over SCOAMT.

Posted by: Mike Nifong at July 13, 2012 11:16 AM (ZWvOb)

59 i, for one, have had enough of the piano playing RINO... let her stay retired from government service.

Posted by: redc1c4 at July 13, 2012 11:16 AM (8MasJ)

60 I thought the Romney camp already said....."No Condi".

Shut up, you.

Posted by: Internet commenter what comments on the Internets at July 13, 2012 11:16 AM (T0NGe)

61 44 Rumsfeld was an asshole.

Posted by: Chris R, red in NY-9 at July 13, 2012 11:17 AM (v362Z)

62 "Who cares? When is the last time we had a fap worthy Veep? That's the most important thing. Posted by: Midaz" 1889. Levi P. Morton's facial hair is god-like.

Posted by: Jordan at July 13, 2012 11:17 AM (RSG1I)

63 Condi isn't going to be the pick, but this is a welcome distraction in my opinion. Posted by: california red at July 13, 2012 03:13 PM (xC7pk) They bought it.

Posted by: Ferris Beuller at July 13, 2012 11:17 AM (j5b23)

64 I like and respect her. I think she would be a good choice, and will be a good VP. She's affable, intelligent and capable. The dunce has spoken. Condi is out.

Posted by: toby928© at July 13, 2012 11:18 AM (QupBk)

65 Rice was the Russian specialist. She failed the big test in her area of expertise, the management of the post-Soviet transformation of international relations. 1991 was a once-in-a-century opportunity to realign politics on a world scale, and Bush I played cautious. Russians suffer terribly and all of us pay a price for Bush I's failure to pressure Congress immediately to open US markets to Russian and Warsaw Pact trade.  Just my humble opinion.

Posted by: Malcolm Kirkpatrick at July 13, 2012 11:18 AM (2cves)

66 The only VP they should be considering is Scott Walker.

Posted by: slatz at July 13, 2012 11:18 AM (mE0Rl)

67 Nothing wrong with Don Rumsfeld. Just the pussies who couldn't take the heat from the Left.

Posted by: Soothsayer at July 13, 2012 11:18 AM (G/zuv)

68 The Condoleezy of the United Steezy?

Posted by: The Mega Independent at July 13, 2012 11:19 AM (XZt+u)

69 I like her, but she was on the wrong side of just about every big Bush admin policy.

Posted by: rdbrewer at July 13, 2012 11:19 AM (Iyg03)

70

sooth, you don't think she was convincing during Bush? i found her explanations  more clear than Bush's  for going to war etc.

i could decipher her messaging.  

 i like her.

Posted by: willow at July 13, 2012 11:19 AM (TomZ9)

71 Posted by: Jordan at July 13, 2012 03:12 PM (RSG1I)

Hi Jordan,

Is the Texas Legislature still in session?

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at July 13, 2012 11:19 AM (Vcb44)

72

What about me?

Posted by: Alvin Greene at July 13, 2012 11:20 AM (mQMnK)

73 If we're going to use someone from the Bush Admin, why not Dick Cheney?

Posted by: Ben at July 13, 2012 11:20 AM (C2Y4l)

74 Whoe, dude!!!  I most have totally plugged in yesterdays date into the time-machine pay phone!  HEINOUS!

Posted by: Bill S. Preston Esq. at July 13, 2012 11:20 AM (/Mla1)

75 Gallup has a new poll out that puts Romney and Barry at a 46% dead heat. Where's Greg/Dr Smith to tell us about Romney fading fast in the polls?

----

Didnt Gallup have Carter up over Reagan by 7 2 weeks prior to the election.

Using that performance..... do the math.....

Posted by: fixerupper at July 13, 2012 11:20 AM (C8hzL)

76 Condi can take a moustache ride on me anytime IYKWIMAITYD!

Posted by: John Bolton at July 13, 2012 11:20 AM (cNFEL)

77 Where's Greg/Dr Smith to tell us about Romney fading fast in the polls? You guys do know that Greg/DrSmith/parisparmus is AJ, yes? I don't know why anyone gives her anything but a STFU.

Posted by: toby928© at July 13, 2012 11:20 AM (QupBk)

78

and that is not a slap re Bush. I believe He did what was necessary .

 

Posted by: willow at July 13, 2012 11:20 AM (TomZ9)

79 Rice is Secretary of State material for Romney's administration, but not veep material.

Posted by: Chris R, red in NY-9 at July 13, 2012 03:11 PM (v362Z)

 

 

 

Disagree.  She should NEVER be allowed that post again under any circumstances, because she did nothing to purge the libtards.  They ignored her and did what they felt like.

 

She'd be a tolerable VP, but not optimal.  The VP slot, lest we've all forgotten, is supposed to be the next Pres nominee.  We will never make her the nominee for Prez.  Can't happen.  If it does happen we lose, because America will not vote for a woman for Prez. 

 

I like the angle - shove the "black female" thing down the libtards throats and let them gag on it.  But it can't work out in the long run.  It's sacrificing tomorrow for today.  PLUS - the media will just Palin-ize her. 

 

Which brings up another point.  All women hate other women who are more attractive and/or successful than them.  Women only like other women who they can pity, are in a relatively harmless position, or are particularly useful to pissing off men.  Condi would drive away more women than she brought in, much like Palin did by simply being hotter/better than most frumpy American hausfraus. 

Posted by: Reactionary at July 13, 2012 11:20 AM (xUM1Q)

80 Condoleeza Rice?  Seriously?  Proof that the Republicans deserve to be labeled the Stupid Party.  With  brilliant, well spoken patriots like Bobby Jindal, Allen West and John Bolton (among other great candidates) waiting to be tapped on the shoulder, do we really need another Bush recycle?

Come on, do it right for once.  Make our day.

Posted by: nraendowment at July 13, 2012 11:20 AM (Msv+6)

81 I got the impression from her record with Bush that she's doesn't like the scary-scary.  Maybe it'll go away.  If we just be nice.  And not really do anything substantive.

Posted by: rdbrewer at July 13, 2012 11:20 AM (Iyg03)

82 I'm not sure how- haven't worked out all the moves yet- but I'm pretty sure if Romney picked a black person for Veep, he'd be a racist for doing so


Posted by: Jones in CO at July 13, 2012 03:16 PM

We're pretty sure we would call it cynical, not racist.  But, whatever.  We could call it racist, too.

Posted by: your betters in the Media at July 13, 2012 11:20 AM (bAGA/)

83 Aaahhh, the afternoon crowd chimes in.

Any Republican that can walk in and out of the State Dept. without causing ambulance calls isn't doing our job.

  At one point in IIRC "Yellow Eyes" Ringo feeds some State Dept. stragglers to the Posleen.  I didn't feel bad about not feeling bad about that.

Posted by: DaveA at July 13, 2012 11:21 AM (864A5)

84

Are the Bill Kristols and Fred Barnes of the world aware that neoconservatism was and is a political catastrophe?  Democrats would be exhilarated at the idea of running against the policies of George W. Bush.

Just...please....no.

 

 

Posted by: Reggie1971 at July 13, 2012 11:21 AM (G+Q6b)

85 46 Who cares? When is the last time we had a fap worthy Veep? That's the most important thing.

Bout 4 years ago if memory serves.... http://tinyurl.com/83my6pw

Posted by: BCochran1981 at July 13, 2012 11:21 AM (da5Wo)

86 Wow.  No one here seems to remember how awful Rice was.  She was behind Bush's disastrous move leftwards in his second term.  She was a failure as SecState.  She was a pali supporter who compared their "plight" to that of blacks during Jim Crow.  She made that laughable Road-Kill Map - which Israel only accepted with 14 reservations and the palis totally rejected and violated from the first day - which she pulled out every single time she said anything (usually stupid) about the mid-east.  She pushed Israel to allow Hamas in the Gaza elections.  She screwed up with Russia - allegedly her forte.  She practically endorsed Barky while she was SecState and almost surely voted for the America-hating Retard. 

Rice is an idiot.  She was a total failure.  She would be horrible for Mitt to pick, or even to muse about picking.  Rice is a lefty who would be more at home running on the dem ticket.  I am amazed that people forget all of these things (and more).  She was an absolute disaster as SecState and is not conservative in any way, shape, or form.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 13, 2012 11:21 AM (X3lox)

87 Only a racist would subjugate a black woman into the role of vice-president. Why don't ya'll just stick her in the kitchen where she can rustle-up some food for ya.

Posted by: Toure at July 13, 2012 11:21 AM (4cRnj)

88 68 Rumsfeld was an asshole. Not for what he did, but for who he is. I've worked for cocksuckers like that. Bush should have chosen more wisely.

Posted by: Chris R, red in NY-9 at July 13, 2012 11:21 AM (v362Z)

89 I'll always like Rumsfeld just for this:


"There are known knowns. These are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say, there are things that we know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we don't know we don't know."

Posted by: Jones in CO at July 13, 2012 11:21 AM (8sCoq)

90

Lets see.... a pander to Blacks, and Women.... check...

 

Neo Con... who helped us get into multiple oversea Wars... check...

 

Bushy.... check...

 

Never ran for public office before.... check...

 

Has no State backing her, as she's never had an elected office... yep...

 

Only one whose talking like they want her, are some paid Pundits.... Yeah!

 

Sure.... she's a PERFECT Pick for Romney!  Only one better would be Palin!

Posted by: D. Axelrod at July 13, 2012 11:21 AM (lZBBB)

91 How will certain elements deal with the persistent rumors about her? Not that there's anything wrong with that

Posted by: Avi at July 13, 2012 11:21 AM (Gx3Fe)

92 I don't think it's going to happen, they already said it wasn't going to happen, *she* said she wasn't planning on it (or anything like it)... ...but I don't actually have too much of a problem with her as a VP if it did happen. Yeah, she went TOTALLY native at State and joined the "bureacurats against anything good" club, but a VP doesn't actually *do* that much - I'd expect her to "follow orders" on Senate votes that included her, if any. She's a decent speaker. She wouldn't fuck up the Russian Button. I just wouldn't want her to try a Presidental run after a VP run. Besides, I would like to see the MFM trip over themselves trying to savage a black woman running for national office without damning themselves to Racism Hell.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 13, 2012 11:21 AM (bxiXv)

93 Colin Powell, Part II.

Remember how allsome it was going to be when he was floated as a VP?

Fuck him. Fuck him forever for endorsing the JEF. Spinless little bitch. Only John Roberts is a bigger coward.

Posted by: RoyalOil at July 13, 2012 11:21 AM (kSaUf)

94 Russians suffer terribly and all of us pay a price for Bush I's failure to pressure Congress immediately to open US markets to Russian and Warsaw Pact trade. Just my humble opinion.

Posted by: Malcolm Kirkpatrick at July 13, 2012 03:18 PM (2cves)

 

 

 

 

Yeah.  Cuz opening up trade with f-ing China worked out so damned fantastic. 

Posted by: Reactionary at July 13, 2012 11:22 AM (xUM1Q)

95 68
Nothing wrong with Don Rumsfeld.

Just the pussies who couldn't take the heat from the Left.

Don Rumsfeld is like Bill Parcells. He's a great guy to turn around a moribund organization that is mired in old thinking and bureaucratic red tape.

But he's so aggressive that his act gets old after a while. Once you've got your own guys in place, it's hard to shake things up.

Parcells knew this and so did Rumsfeld. Bush should have accepted his resignation early on.

Posted by: Internet commenter what comments on the Internets at July 13, 2012 11:22 AM (T0NGe)

96

Rumsfeld was an asshole.

 

Don't dis on  Rummy.  The man knows his COC phones.

Kim Jong Il Must Die - http  ://  www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmEOnLvFN 3 c

Posted by: Kid Notorious at July 13, 2012 11:22 AM (n6d6+)

97 everytime Condi was on Meet the Mummy or Face the Depressed it was like watching a kitten get shoved into woodchipper oh she was smart, alright but boy oh boy was she, what's the word, demure

Posted by: Soothsayer at July 13, 2012 11:22 AM (G/zuv)

98 She pissed off Colon Powell.  That's good enough for me.

Posted by: Fritz at July 13, 2012 11:22 AM (/ZZCn)

99 89 On my plantation, Leeza would have other duties

Posted by: The ghost of Robert Byrd at July 13, 2012 11:22 AM (v362Z)

100 71 sooth, you don't think she was convincing during Bush? i found herexplanations more clear than Bush's for going to war etc. i could decipher her messaging. i like her. Posted by: willow at July 13, 2012 03:19 PM (TomZ9) I know this book. Your conclusions were all wrong, Rice. Bush acted stupidly.

Posted by: Captain Ramius at July 13, 2012 11:22 AM (j5b23)

101 Condi; it's as simple as: do you want this election to be about Bush or Obama?

Cuz if nominate Condi, it'll be all about Bush.

Posted by: lorien1973 at July 13, 2012 11:22 AM (0tkqC)

102 99 That's the word I am looking for. Not timid, just too damn polite and deferential.

Posted by: Chris R at July 13, 2012 11:23 AM (v362Z)

103 Even mittens isn't dumb enough to nominate Rice

Posted by: Highsmith at July 13, 2012 11:23 AM (uwaMU)

104 I know there are some objections to her, and she's not perfect, but she's smart, driven, knowledgeable of foreign affairs, approves of intensive interrogation techniques, can hold her own in a crowd...

and she would help to alleviate the black-guilt over abandoning Obama for at least a small number of the population.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at July 13, 2012 11:23 AM (piMMO)

105 100 She pissed off Colon Powell. That's good enough for me. Posted by: Fritz at July 13, 2012 03:22 PM (/ZZCn) Powell thinks that Obama is the future of the Republican Party. So all that proves its that Rice isn't an out and out commie.

Posted by: Underground Vulgarian at July 13, 2012 11:23 AM (j5b23)

106

"I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American woman who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking gakl," Biden said. "I mean, that's a storybook, man."

Posted by: Joe Biden at July 13, 2012 11:23 AM (SO2Q8)

107 How will certain elements deal with the persistent rumors about her? That Bush was boinking her? Or that she is in league with The Greys?

Posted by: The National Inquirer at July 13, 2012 11:23 AM (QupBk)

108

*COUGH* *PALESTINIAN ELECTIONS* *COUGH*

Yep, this is a sore point.

In a lot of respects, I think she would be great as VP. She could go to foreign leader's funerals and hold that warm bucket of spit with the best of them.

Posted by: fluffy at July 13, 2012 11:24 AM (3SvjA)

109 "I'd enjoy her candidacy if for nothing more than watching the dims try to oppose a black female candidate" Yeah, well, the MSM (Dems) have no trouble destroying blacks like Clarence Thomas and Herman Cain.....or women like Sarah Palin. So I suppose it could be mildly interesting to see them go into the race and gender modes simultaneously. But not interesting enough to quell my nausea, I'm sure.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 13, 2012 11:24 AM (C8mVl)

110 The Noonan endorsement bothers me for some reason.

Posted by: teh Wind at July 13, 2012 11:24 AM (HBU8E)

111 and she would help to alleviate the black-guilt over abandoning Obama for at least a small number of the population. Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at July 13, 2012 03:23 PM (piMMO) Fuck their guilt. Let them braise in it.

Posted by: Underground Vulgarian at July 13, 2012 11:24 AM (j5b23)

112 She was a failure as SecState. She was a pali supporter who compared their "plight" to that of blacks during Jim Crow. She made that laughable Road-Kill Map - which Israel only accepted with 14 reservations and the palis totally rejected and violated from the first day - which she pulled out every single time she said anything (usually stupid) about the mid-east. She pushed Israel to allow Hamas in the Gaza elections. She screwed up with Russia - allegedly her forte. She practically endorsed Barky while she was SecState and almost surely voted for the America-hating Retard.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 13, 2012 03:21 PM (X3lox)

t

ell me how you really feel!

alright somehow i'd miss'd this info. but i have to say i shut the news off late 2003

Posted by: willow at July 13, 2012 11:25 AM (TomZ9)

113 I still want Lindsay Graham.  VP is a crap job so he can do no harm there.  It gets a RINO out of the Senate and we can have a free election to get somebody better in his place.

Posted by: Vic at July 13, 2012 11:25 AM (YdQQY)

114 If we're going to use someone from the Bush Admin, why not Dick Cheney?

Posted by: Ben at July 13, 2012 03:20 PM (C2Y4l)

Last thursday, there was a cougar incident in mexico involving some hookers. Cheney was involved.

Posted by: lorien1973 at July 13, 2012 11:25 AM (0tkqC)

115 One point I almost made is that Condi is an expert on Russia, and we're having issues with Russia right now. So, she has timeliness, even if her actual willingness to go balls-to-the-wall with Russia may be in doubt. ... You guys do know that metaphor is about steam boilers, not testicles, right?

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 13, 2012 11:25 AM (bxiXv)

116 The Noonan endorsement bothers me for some reason. I heard an unspoken Girl in there.

Posted by: Peggy Nooner at July 13, 2012 11:25 AM (QupBk)

117 She sucked as Secretary of State. Some of this could be following orders  but I doubt it. She was against the surge which was Cheney and Bush's idea.  But she could provide no alternative other than a "diplomatic surge." She pushed for the Israelis to leave Gaza and forcibly destroy the Jewish community of Gush Katif. What did the Israelis get for their trouble? A Hamas-controlled government which has fired 10,000s of rockets into Israel' southern cities- dozens dead, hundreds wounded, millions of dollars of property damage. I do not want her anywhere near Israel when she has compared Jews building homes in their ancestral homeland to apartheid in South Africa.

She's "mildly" pro abortion. That's like being mildly pro-slavery. The Republican party must stand for life especially when polling increasingly shows we are winning on the issue. The media will find every policy difference with Romney and pound those non-stop to push the narrative of a Republican Party in civil war.

Do you trust her to break ties in the Senate? It is like electing a Senator and she would be bounced out of a Republican primary in most states. She doesn't have to vote the way Mitt tells her in the event of a tie breaker. Do you trust her to let's say vote for another Thomas, Alito or Scalia if she knows it will be the end of Roe v Wade. I don't.

As for the Palin stamp of approval: stating that Condi is more qualified than Obama is just stating the obvious. Virtually every office holder is more qualified than Obama. So what?

Posted by: Sean at July 13, 2012 11:25 AM (+eYQ4)

118

Condi is cultured,  intelligent, pretty, and experienced in the workings of government.  But she's another Justice John Roberts.  Be careful.

 

We need a conservative on the ticket, and Condi ain't no conservative.

Posted by: Soona at July 13, 2012 11:26 AM (otEo7)

119 Reactionary All women hate other women who are more attractive than them.... Over generalize much? Yes some women are like that not the Majority and not all...

Posted by: phoenixgirl, team dagny at July 13, 2012 11:26 AM (Ho2rs)

120 20 Still holding out for Palin, eh?   --- I can only hold out for 7 minutes for Palin. Four minutes for Sarah and Bristol together.   And yes i am doing this for extra credit

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at July 13, 2012 11:26 AM (SO2Q8)

121 Romney needs a veep who will pound home the narrative

that obama is a colossal fuckup who has fucked up everything and we fucken need a new president or we're fucked

Posted by: Jones in CO at July 13, 2012 11:26 AM (8sCoq)

122 So I suppose it could be mildly interesting to see them go into the race and gender modes simultaneously. But not interesting enough to quell my nausea, I'm sure.

The Volt has room on the bumper for both the "she's not a woman she's a Republican" AND the "Oreo" stickers.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at July 13, 2012 11:26 AM (ZKzrr)

123 The only AND HUGE downside is that within one day the Democrats and the mainstream media would actually be saying Rice was at Abu Graib personally tortured prisoners.

The Democrats and the MSM have to keep the minority/woman coalition together because if the Democrats ever lost it they would literally be wiped out politically.

That said I love Condi a black woman who grew up in Alabama who is a PhD, a concert pianist AND most importantly for me a hockey player, she was a competitive figure skater in her youth.

She is an amazing person!!!

Posted by: bobbymike at July 13, 2012 11:26 AM (cZieJ)

124 speaking of John Roberts... yeah, Condi is of the same mold

Posted by: Soothsayer at July 13, 2012 11:27 AM (G/zuv)

125

Rumsfeld's resignation was offered to GWB repeatedly before the 2006 elections, and refused.  Rumsfeld knew that whether justified or not, he had become a political liability, and was willing to fall on his sword.

His resignation was accepted the day after we lost the Senate and the House.  Mind-boggling,

 

Posted by: Reggie1971 at July 13, 2012 11:27 AM (G+Q6b)

126 mould?

Posted by: Soothsayer at July 13, 2012 11:27 AM (G/zuv)

127 Poor Rice minding her business after adamantly telling the press repeatedly that she would not consider being VP gets torn a new one from our genius conservative pundits because why? Fuck you that's why. Fuck them.

Posted by: polynikeS at July 13, 2012 11:27 AM (qBtUE)

128 But he's so aggressive that his act gets old after a while.

****

This could be said of Christie as well.

Old. Really old.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at July 13, 2012 11:27 AM (piMMO)

129 109 I am one who suspects W and Rice were boinking. They've been close for decades. She's never married. In fact, she's never been known to have had a serious relationship with a man. If I'm W, and I can get a side of Rice, I'm doing it.

Posted by: Chris R at July 13, 2012 11:27 AM (v362Z)

130 "PLUS - the media will just Palin-ize her." Not a chance. Palin was an insubstantial candidate and was broadly portrayed as such. That strategy absolutely will not work against CR. The media will call her evil, not dumb.

Posted by: Jordan at July 13, 2012 11:27 AM (RSG1I)

131 This is just part of the usual pre-convention hype where journos get to float weird-ass rumors about possible VP picks.

People said Dick Nixon might choose some nobody named Spiro Agnew, and claimed Bush 41 might go with some clown who couldn't spell "potato." They even tried to make people think Bark Obama would pick a worthless mutant named "Joe Biden."

Oh, wait....

All that said, no Condoleeza, please. She doesn't want it (she says), and she doesn't really have the chops. That Bush 43 shit doesn't help, either.

If we have to have a VP who "doesn't look like the guys on money," gotta go with West. I'd like him anyway. Otherwise, Ryan might work. No Rubio, no Jindal, no T-Paw, even though the latter's selection might give "Poppin' Fresh" his semi-annual erection.

Posted by: MrScribbler at July 13, 2012 11:27 AM (MQc8e)

132 James Pethakoukis linked someone earlier that said she never would answer who she voted for in '08. In other words, she voted for JEF. Can't find it now.

Posted by: slatz at July 13, 2012 11:27 AM (mE0Rl)

133 Drudge got what he wanted, traffic.  It got mentioned in WSJ, NY Slime, and just about everywhere else.

Total bullshit.  His lede now?  Romney is interviewing with the networks. 

So this is news?  Meh.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo-intellectual at July 13, 2012 11:28 AM (KZI7g)

134 Bush leaving Laura for Condi, or Laura leaving Bush for Condi. We can go either way, IYKWWM.

Posted by: The National Inquirer at July 13, 2012 11:28 AM (QupBk)

135 Short Answer: NO! Long Answer: NO NO NO NO NO NO!

Posted by: Big T Party at July 13, 2012 11:28 AM (EhUTA)

136 66-24 favoribility rating? I would have been way off...

Posted by: JohnE. at July 13, 2012 11:28 AM (9+PP7)

137

I still want Lindsay Graham. VP is a crap job so he can do no harm there. It gets a RINO out of the Senate and we can have a free election to get somebody better in his place.

That's quite a sell. Unfortunately, we would get stuck with VP Lindsay Graham.

Posted by: fluffy at July 13, 2012 11:28 AM (3SvjA)

138 95 Colin Powell, Part II.

Remember how allsome it was going to be when he was floated as a VP?

How clueless is Powell?  He could have been the First Black President in 1996.  Yes, he would have won the primaries. Nobody cared what he believed in. Even Rush (the only real skeptical one with a loud voice) would have fallen in line because Dole was not going to win.

And, let's face it, if he kept his head down and did nothing (he's good at it) then he would have been leagues better than Obama.

And he blew it. And he doesn't even know it.

Or maybe he did and that's why his character (Fitzmas, racial endorsement) finally fell off the cliff.

Posted by: AmishDude at July 13, 2012 11:28 AM (T0NGe)

139 All women hate other women who are more attractive than them.... Over generalize much? Yes some women are like that not the
Majority and not all...

Posted by: phoenixgirl, team dagny at July 13, 2012 03:26 PM (Ho2rs)

 

 

 

 

You're right.  All is too strong a word.  It's probably only 95%.  And bit less in the post-menopausal crowd.

Posted by: Reactionary at July 13, 2012 11:28 AM (xUM1Q)

140 Out of the following, which two are "strictly dickly?" Meghan McCain John Roberts Condi Rice (not easy, is it?)

Posted by: Soothsayer at July 13, 2012 11:28 AM (G/zuv)

141 O/T but I need to know the answer to this question that has eluded me for years. If John Bolton's mustache engaged in mortal combat with Dick Cheney's war cock what would happen? I mean would the entire universe end from the resulting explosion? This is an important question and I'm sure one of the morons out there has the answer.

Posted by: Midaz at July 13, 2012 11:29 AM (cNFEL)

142 She does look hot in those black boots.

Posted by: steevy at July 13, 2012 11:29 AM (Ts9tU)

143 I still want Lindsay Graham. VP is a crap job so he can do no harm there. It gets a RINO out of the Senate and we can have a free election to get somebody better in his place.Posted by: Vic

The Veep is the presumed presidential nominee after the 2nd term.

You really want to see that election?

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at July 13, 2012 11:29 AM (Vcb44)

144 She's never married. In fact, she's never been known to have had a serious relationship with a man.

She's a lesbian. Isn't it obvious?

Posted by: lorien1973 at July 13, 2012 11:29 AM (0tkqC)

145 I still want Lindsay Graham. VP is a crap job so he can do no harm there. It gets a RINO out of the Senate and we can have a free election to get somebody better in his place.


****

Graham always sounds strong when discussing foreign policy. He's regularly been impressive on the Sunday talkies with that regard.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at July 13, 2012 11:30 AM (piMMO)

146 73 "What about me? Posted by: Alvin Greene" I'd vote for Romney if he picked you. I'd vote for Romney if he picked a rutabaga. But I repeat myself.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 13, 2012 11:30 AM (C8mVl)

147 Meh. Opens Romney up for the Booosh! attack just as easy as if he picked Jeb.

Besides, I'm not a fan of her work as SecState - she seemed to get corralled by the libs there just like her predecessor.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at July 13, 2012 11:30 AM (+WgEk)

148 >If John Bolton's mustache engaged in mortal combat with Dick Cheney's war cock what would happen?


human sacrifice, cats and dogs living together- MASS HYSTERIA

Posted by: Jones in CO at July 13, 2012 11:31 AM (8sCoq)

149 I still want Lindsay Graham. VP is a crap job so he can do no harm there. It gets a RINO out of the Senate and we can have a free election to get somebody better in his place.

Then put him in the cabinet.  He probably wants AG, but I'd give him Veteran's Affairs.

Posted by: AmishDude at July 13, 2012 11:31 AM (T0NGe)

150 Collin Powell the only ROTC grad to make it.  I am sure the color of his skin had nothing to do with it.

Reagan's worst mistake, pandering Powell.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo-intellectual at July 13, 2012 11:32 AM (KZI7g)

151 9 Love those F* me, F* me boots.

And greetings from Calgary today. On the way home.
Posted by: John P. Squibob

Those are not F* me boots, they're F* you boots.  Condi probably hasn't been on the bottom in years.

Posted by: SFGoth at July 13, 2012 11:32 AM (dZ756)

152

She's never married. In fact, she's never been known to have had a serious relationship with a man.

Didn't she date Gene Washington, retired WR for the 49ers?

Posted by: fluffy at July 13, 2012 11:32 AM (3SvjA)

153 Don't give a rats ass about her position on abortion.  Her role in that "roadmap to peace" BS and her position on Israel, however, is unacceptable.

Posted by: SpongeBob Saget at July 13, 2012 11:33 AM (SDkq3)

154 Bobby Jindal. Nikki Haley. Anybody credible from VA or OH. Condi should be given her old job as National Security Adviser, for which she was perfect. Sec. State should go to The Stache, if only for the level of attrition that would stimulate among the lefties there.

Posted by: joncelli, heartless Con and all around unpleasant guy at July 13, 2012 11:33 AM (RD7QR)

155 Drudge got what he wanted, traffic. It got mentioned in WSJ, NY Slime, and just about everywhere else.

Total bullshit. His lede now? Romney is interviewing with the networks.

So this is news? Meh.

****

He took to his personal Twitter account last night in order to drive traffic to the website. I replied back to him that the Romney camp had already denied the claim, so why was he still pushing it and, of course, he continued to push it for 12 or so more hours.

Shameless.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at July 13, 2012 11:33 AM (piMMO)

156 151 >If John Bolton's mustache engaged in mortal combat with Dick Cheney's war cock what would happen?


human sacrifice, cats and dogs living together- MASS HYSTERIA

Posted by: Jones in CO at July 13, 2012 03:31 PM (8sCoq)


I'd be right down.

Posted by: SMOD at July 13, 2012 11:33 AM (KZI7g)

157 Condi? No way.

Posted by: Bosk at July 13, 2012 11:33 AM (n2K+4)

158 Reactionary = misogynous

Posted by: phoenixgirl, team dagny at July 13, 2012 11:33 AM (Ho2rs)

159 'Tis better to remain silent and thought a fool than to open your pie-hole and remove all doubt!

Posted by: Joe Biden at July 13, 2012 11:33 AM (xCxXI)

160

Posted by: Midaz at July 13, 2012 03:29 PM (cNFEL)

 

Yes, we are working on that very issue.  We are attempting to biologicaly engineer an entity which combines the Stache, with the Warcock...

 

We are going to name him... Khan...

Posted by: Indian Scientist at July 13, 2012 11:34 AM (lZBBB)

161

122 -

 

How long if we throw in Willow, heh heh heh.

Posted by: D. Letterman at July 13, 2012 11:34 AM (TOk1P)

162

If I'm W, and I can get a side of BROWN Rice, I'm doing it.

----

FIFY

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at July 13, 2012 11:34 AM (SO2Q8)

163 Lindsey Graham would be great as the androgyny czar.

Posted by: Mark at July 13, 2012 11:34 AM (RcFeB)

164 Condi is an impressive person. She's accomplished, strong, loyal -- classy really describes her. But I don't want someone about whom I know so little (in domestic policy). I'd rather a greener person whose convictions are clear (Allen West). They can grow into the job (face it, Mitt's not a big risk to die in office - compared to McCain), but changing core beliefs is much harder. I appreciate that Rice was loyal to Bush whom I still credit with keeping us from further terror attacks, but I do not want to rehash the Iraq War and War on Terror. So basically if Condi somehow really was the pick (doubtful), I would not be ashamed of having her as VP - far from it - but it would not in any way calm my fears about Mitt's centrist tendencies.

Posted by: Y-not at July 13, 2012 11:34 AM (5H6zj)

165 38 I'd name a lobotomized chimp to be VP, just to note the improvement it would be over Biden.

You take that back! I have much better hair than any chimp.  Except for those ones in the Charlton Heston movie.  Hoowee! Those were some sexy monkeys.

Posted by: Joe "m-o-o-n spells train" Biden at July 13, 2012 11:34 AM (vjyZP)

166 >I'd be right down.

Posted by: SMOD at July 13, 2012 03:33 PM (KZI7g)



HIT me- Lord knows we got it coming

Posted by: Jones in CO at July 13, 2012 11:35 AM (8sCoq)

167

Posted by: fluffy at July 13, 2012 03:32 PM (3SvjA)

 

 

 

Well.... he was from San Francisco.... so it really prooves nothing...

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 13, 2012 11:35 AM (lZBBB)

168

Kitchen.

 

I denounce myself.

Posted by: Truman North at July 13, 2012 11:35 AM (I2LwF)

169 She plays policy, not politics. Which is why Condi's hits are broadly unknown.

That said, read her foreign policy outline for George W. Bush in 2000 that underpinned his initial campaign policy. She has written and worked extensively in academic circles while at Stanford, etc. Scowcroft, Schultz, HW, W were all taken aback by her.


There are two connection to Romney that has been overlooked:

(1) her background and initial work was on the Soviet state and Eastern Bloc, IIRC her thesis was on Czechlosovokia. Romney, if you've read him, has something of a hard-on for the Russians as a re-emerging power...

(2) as provost of Stanford, she balanced their "structural deficit" budget.


She really is rockstar: but she lends herself to Republican statesmen, not politician.

Posted by: Uriah Heep at July 13, 2012 11:35 AM (Wa+Fw)

170 If John Bolton's mustache engaged in mortal combat with Dick Cheney's war cock what would happen?

I mean would the entire universe end from the resulting explosion?

Posted by: Midaz at July 13, 2012 03:29 PM (cNFEL)


Shit. Now I won't get anything done for the rest of the day.

Posted by: joncelli, heartless Con and all around unpleasant guy at July 13, 2012 11:35 AM (RD7QR)

171 I thought a lot of Rice. But she did really become a problem regarding the Pali/Israeli issue. IMO.

Posted by: Honey Badger, drinker of mead at July 13, 2012 11:36 AM (GvYeG)

172

i hate all the women on this board.

 i bet they are cuter then me!

 

!

 

srsly?

Posted by: willow at July 13, 2012 11:36 AM (TomZ9)

173 >>Reactionary = misogynous

Actually, he sounds like a progg.  Assuming all members of a group act the way he thinks they do, instead of realizing they are individuals across a spectrum. Telling women what they do and think....very progg.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at July 13, 2012 11:36 AM (ZKzrr)

174 I mentioned this yesterday or this morning.  This is such a stupid play.

Now, if they don't pick Condi they really are racist will be the story.

What good does this shit do anyone?  Someone mentioned it confuses Barry's people.   Like they need to be confused?


Poorly played cards can lose a good hand.  Willard's team need to bear down and stay on point.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo-intellectual at July 13, 2012 11:36 AM (KZI7g)

175 I'm with ya Ace re Condi.  She comes across to me, as a pandering pick.  She has credentials and it smart no doubt, but the way she pushed back at State many times against the 'Stache..  Too close to Bush /43 and too close to that internationalist mindset.

I think Romney should go bold and pick a scary-ass Tea Party Conservative... constitution FIRST to ally with the Tea Party pickups in the House and Senate.  Tie them together and that allows Romney to play to the middle , if only a bit, but not stand in the way of conservative reform.

Posted by: Yip in Texas at July 13, 2012 11:37 AM (Mrdk1)

176 115---" I still want Lindsay Graham. VP is a crap job so he can do no harm there. It gets a RINO out of the Senate and we can have a free election to get somebody better in his place. " Heh. Not a bad idea. And he wouldn't have a prayer of getting the GOP POTUS nomination later. A disposable guy, like Biden. Unfortunately, he would make many in the base heave their innards.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 13, 2012 11:37 AM (C8mVl)

177 Lindsay Graham?  Good god.  If Romney wins a couple of terms, we'll have to have a candidate later.  And you'd leave us with Lindsay Effing 'Green Jobs' Graham? 

Silly.

Posted by: rdbrewer at July 13, 2012 11:37 AM (Iyg03)

178 Likely the wrong pick, and I'm sure plenty here will tell me exactly why, but it would put a big smile on my face to watch the absolute hysterical, world is coming to an end, my head is exploding, giant winged death from above shit storm that would result from Palin Part Deux.

Like I said, won't happen, likely shouldn't happen. But oh man, can't you just picture the lib talking heads. Go on, tell me you just didn't smile a little.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at July 13, 2012 11:37 AM (da5Wo)

179 Thanks for the pic, Ace.  I've been looking for that for a while.  :-)

I like Condi but, regardless of my desires, Mitt will select Pawlenty because he's seasoned, an ex-gov (of my state), and really boring.

In business, we say, "A's hire A's, and B's hire C's"  Evidence: Obama selected Biden to make himself look better.

Romney is an A and Condi, by his scale, may be an A- or B+ for the job of president.  If this is a hiring position, Condi might not get that spot.

Posted by: Tonic Dog at July 13, 2012 11:37 AM (X/+QT)

180 164 122 -

How long if we throw in Willow, heh heh heh.

Willow was played by the same guy who did Wicket the Ewok, you know.

Posted by: Val "before I was fat" Kilmer at July 13, 2012 11:37 AM (vjyZP)

181 That Bolton-Cheney scenario is too upsetting. All I can think of is 'Bolton gives Cheney a mustache ride.' UGH!

Posted by: Y-not at July 13, 2012 11:37 AM (5H6zj)

182 Lindsey Graham?

Well that's one way to get the ghey vote.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo-intellectual at July 13, 2012 11:38 AM (KZI7g)

183 Did anyone get the American Bridge Rubio report PDF downloaded before they pulled it from scribd?

Posted by: Mr Tea at July 13, 2012 11:39 AM (S5qYN)

184 She's a lesbian. Isn't it obvious?

Posted by: lorien1973 at July 13, 2012 03:29 PM (0tkqC)


No, I think she's probably omnivorous. But it's also probably true that she, uh, dominates the conversation.

Posted by: joncelli, heartless Con and all around unpleasant guy at July 13, 2012 11:39 AM (RD7QR)

185 I still want Lindsay Graham. VP is a crap job

Yea but,
What if Mitt actually died?

Posted by: DaveA at July 13, 2012 11:39 AM (864A5)

186 I still want Lindsay Graham. ... It gets a RINO out of the Senate So does appointing him to be Secretary of Education, Budget: 0.

Posted by: t-bird at July 13, 2012 11:39 AM (FcR7P)

187

I like Condoleeza Rice but I can't imagine Romney making a VP pick who might detract from his place as focus of the campaign. Look what happened to Brett O'Donnell, the debate coach who helped dramatically turn around Romney's anemic, eye-glazing debate performances during the primaries. Team Romney fired O'Donnell, who wasn't courting publicity, for getting publicity. Given that mindset, I imagine Romney would be likely to pick the least charismatic, least noticeable and most inoffensively whitebread VP candidate he can find--which of course immediately leaves Jindal, Ryan and Rubio out of the running. President Obama's choice for running mate in 2008 came down to Evan Bayh and Joe Biden. He chose Biden for pretty much the same reason. Nothing must outshine the glory that is The One.

 

It's a shame, really. Although John Adams rightfully complained about the irrelevance of the office, several times throughout our history the Vice Presidency has become very relevant very quickly. We need good people in that position whatever their party affiliation.

Posted by: troyriser at July 13, 2012 11:40 AM (vtiE6)

188 164 122 -

How long if we throw in Willow, heh heh heh.   ---   I save that for the encore

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at July 13, 2012 11:40 AM (SO2Q8)

189 Let's name Lindsay Graham "Ambassador of Fire Island" or something.

Posted by: Y-not at July 13, 2012 11:40 AM (5H6zj)

190 >>(face it, Mitt's not a big risk to die in office - compared to McCain)

Let's hope no one gets shooty out of a need to impress Kal Penn.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at July 13, 2012 11:40 AM (ZKzrr)

191 The difference between Colin Powell and Condi is very slim.

Posted by: nickless at July 13, 2012 11:40 AM (MMC8r)

192 http ://en.wikipedia.org/ wiki/Levi_P._Morton

I'd wear an un-chin beard except its the opposite of my actual beard.

Posted by: DaveA at July 13, 2012 11:40 AM (864A5)

193 "Yes, we are working on that very issue. We are attempting to biologicaly engineer an entity which combines the Stache, with the Warcock... We are going to name him... Khan..." OMG, do NOT try that. Nothing in the universe could contain the sheer amount of awesome that would generate.

Posted by: Midaz at July 13, 2012 11:41 AM (cNFEL)

194

No, I think she's probably omnivorous. But it's also probably true that she, uh, dominates the conversation.
---

I am willing to offer myself to her (in those boots) to test the thesis.

 

For Science.

 

 

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at July 13, 2012 11:41 AM (SO2Q8)

195 @187

Could be, but Willard's guys talk to Drudge.  They could have shut this BS down.  They didn't.  I think they are trying to be too cute by a half.

Not serious card playing.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo-intellectual at July 13, 2012 11:41 AM (KZI7g)

196 "What if Mitt actually died?" He'll live forever with his sealed family in Heaven with Jesus and Joseph Smith. Dumbass.

Posted by: Jordan at July 13, 2012 11:42 AM (RSG1I)

197 I would love to see a debate between this old Bush hack and VP Joe Biden. Joe would utterly destroy her with his extensive foreign policy knowledge and expertise. IQ-wise, he's on a whole 'nother level.

Posted by: deskrat at July 13, 2012 11:42 AM (Lz+QC)

198 Condi started out as a pretty good supporter of Israel as I recall ... not sure what happened.

Posted by: Honey Badger, drinker of mead at July 13, 2012 11:42 AM (GvYeG)

199 New thread

Posted by: Vic at July 13, 2012 11:43 AM (YdQQY)

200 194 Let's name Lindsay Graham "Ambassador of Fire Island" or something.


PERFECT!  While we are at it, let's let the island succeed. 

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo-intellectual at July 13, 2012 11:43 AM (KZI7g)

201

OMG, do NOT try that. Nothing in the universe could contain the sheer amount of awesome that would generate.

----

Almost nothing

 

 

Posted by: Chuck Norris at July 13, 2012 11:43 AM (SO2Q8)

202 181---" Lindsay Graham? Good god." LOL! Hey, some of us are desperate to get him out of the Senate. PRONTO! ( Yes, he could and should be primaried out.)

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 13, 2012 11:43 AM (C8mVl)

203 157 Bobby Jindal. Nikki Haley.
Posted by: joncelli

Sikh of Biden?

Posted by: SFGoth at July 13, 2012 11:44 AM (dZ756)

204 Now, if they don't pick Condi they really are racist will be the story. I don't know, a Secretary of State that actually knows something (and can speak Russian so she won't look like such a fool with a damned 'Overcharge' button)? Imagine that: being chosen because you're qualified.

Posted by: t-bird at July 13, 2012 11:44 AM (FcR7P)

205 Condoleezza Rice's  2000 convention speech.

I can only find the text: http://tinyurl.com/6youls

Posted by: Uriah Heep at July 13, 2012 11:44 AM (Wa+Fw)

206 206 194
Let's name Lindsay Graham "Ambassador of Fire Island" or something.

PERFECT! While we are at it, let's let the island succeed.
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo-intellectual

Ummm, economically, it probably does, given that gay men usually have no dependents and spend $.  It's the lesbians who are frugal.

Posted by: SFGoth at July 13, 2012 11:45 AM (dZ756)

207

I like her, but I will admit that I like her most because she's a poke in the eye  to people who still push the caricature that the GOP is 99.5% white and male.  Admittedly one of the main reasons I liked Palin.

 

Not the ONLY reason, but I am self-aware enough to notice that it is one of them.

 

Condi is literally out of nowhere.  Honestly, what has she been doing the last four years?  Nothing that's made it onto the moronosphere.  So yes, I think she's a head-fake to float the name, take some fire, and then cry out, "Oh no!  You've absolutely ruined my bestest, first-choice!  Now I'm forced to go with my second choice of *actual first choice's name*!"

 

In retrospect, this is what Sarah Palin should have been for McCain.  But instead, McCain screwed it up and went with the head-fake as the acutal VP.  Then she took the flak, but he couldn't replace her.

 

I think that Mitt is still gonna go for an out-of-the-blue, oh-shit-nobody-saw-that-coming VP pick.

Posted by: reason at July 13, 2012 11:48 AM (V40IZ)

208

213I think that Mitt is stillgonna gofor an out-of-the-blue, oh-shit-nobody-saw-that-coming VP pick.

 

I'm ready!

Posted by: Alvin Greene at July 13, 2012 11:50 AM (mQMnK)

209 spoiler: that picture of Rice is actually from "Fay Grim" and it's of Parker Posey.

Posted by: bill at July 13, 2012 11:52 AM (hGRh5)

210 She's a lesbian. Isn't it obvious? Posted by: lorien1973 at July 13, 2012 03:29 PM (0tkqC) Not Necessarily, she may think why buy the bull when I can milk him through the fence.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Team Dagny at July 13, 2012 11:52 AM (9TTOe)

211 Re 213:

Yep.  And I might add all the pure hatred and vitriol that Dems will now be throwing at a 'black' woman (on the heels of a decent NAACP appearance) - some people will notice.  Enough to peel another 0.1% away from Obama?

65 dimensions on this chess-set, bitches!

Posted by: Tonic Dog at July 13, 2012 11:52 AM (X/+QT)

212 Reactionary = misogynous

Posted by: phoenixgirl, team dagny at July 13, 2012 03:33 PM (Ho2rs)

 

 

 

Yeah - that's it.  I hates the wimmins.  Whereas if I said 95% of men think with their dick too often you'd be all on board with that.  And why?  Because it's the truth, and acknowledging it doesn't hurt your ego. 

Posted by: Reactionary at July 13, 2012 11:53 AM (xUM1Q)

213 He should just pick the Rent-Is-Too-Damn-High! guy already.  Because who doesn't agree that the Rent Is Too Damn High?

Posted by: Tonic Dog at July 13, 2012 11:53 AM (X/+QT)

214 66-24 is nuts. It has to be her or Portman. And if Portman can't even guarantee OH....then wth is the point.

I've been touting Rice as my pick for VP since Day 1 since it won't be CC. Portman is likelier but I'm not sure why.

Posted by: Naj at July 13, 2012 11:54 AM (tAHf5)

215 reason said: "Condi is literally out of nowhere. Honestly, what has she been doing the last four years? Nothing that's made it onto the moronosphere."

Uh, back at Stanford teaching.

Isn't that what conservatives, most especially the tea-party variety, preach? Serve your country and then return home and back to work and enjoying life --just as Washington did?

reason said: "I like her, but I will admit that I like her most because she's a poke in the eye to people who still push the caricature that the GOP is 99.5% white and male"

Then don't like her, because playing off the other guys racist beliefs for a kick is a stupid fucking reason. Like her for her intelligence or accomplishment, or what have you, otherwise don't.

Or start by reading her background, maybe you'll like her. Same thing would have saved a lot of the anti-Romney banter in the primaries.

Posted by: Uriah Heep at July 13, 2012 11:54 AM (Wa+Fw)

216 On what planet would Condi be anything but a terrible pick?

Her inclusion wouldn't do a single thing to win over black voters, nor would it even slightly stem the cries of "RACISM!" from Obama's allies.

She's a bit of a RINO, has little in the way of executive experience, none on economic matters and has never held elected office.  She wouldn't be a compelling conservative successor to Mitt should he win. 

She might bring some foreign policy chops, but foreign policy isn't going to be a deciding factor in this election.  Even then, her expertise was geared toward the Russians.

This is a sideshow- I doubt she was a serious contender.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at July 13, 2012 11:55 AM (SY2Kh)

217

Nope.  Don't like the whole, as Peggy Noonan called it, "political bullshit about narratives." 

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at July 13, 2012 11:58 AM (Ec6wH)

218 222 On what planet would Condi be anything but a terrible pick?

Her inclusion wouldn't do a single thing to win over black voters, nor would it even slightly stem the cries of "RACISM!" from Obama's allies.

She's a bit of a RINO, has little in the way of executive experience, none on economic matters and has never held elected office. She wouldn't be a compelling conservative successor to Mitt should he win.

She might bring some foreign policy chops, but foreign policy isn't going to be a deciding factor in this election. Even then, her expertise was geared toward the Russians.

This is a sideshow- I doubt she was a serious contender.




Uh... you do realize that Secretary of State is executive experience right? It's head of the state department. Sort of like Bush 1 being head of the CIA. Executive experience is not just being governor.

Posted by: Naes at July 13, 2012 11:58 AM (+eYQ4)

219 R-U-B-I-O! SAY IT AGAIN R-U-B-I-O

Posted by: roondogger at July 13, 2012 11:59 AM (6U38x)

220 Why in HELL is anyone bringing up abortion here?  This election is about defeating an incompetent moron and racist marxist who is taking us off a 100% predictable cliff.

Posted by: The Teller of Hard Facts at July 13, 2012 12:00 PM (mLZe7)

221 Hollowpoint said: "She's a bit of a RINO, has little in the way of executive experience, none on economic matters and has never held elected office"

As provost of Stanford, she balanced the supposed "structural deficit" within 2 years and had a surplus in that last year IIRC.

What did Obama do that was comparable in terms of economic matters? And paying for blow or finagling a lifetime membership at the 'Man's Country Club of Chicago" doesn't count.

The Condi hate is grounded in the same 'knowledge' as the Romney primary hate: namely, I don't know jack, but I heard, or I think, but I'll talk like I do...

Posted by: Uriah Heep at July 13, 2012 12:01 PM (Wa+Fw)

222 "Nobody could've predicted that al-Qaeda would attack the US inside its borders."

That statement immediately disqualifies her for holding any high office.

The FBI knew it, the CIA knew it, and Jamie Gorelick's wall wouldn't let them talk to each other. Everyone knew that something COULD happen, except, apparently, the Stanford grad.

Posted by: The Q at July 13, 2012 12:02 PM (B/yDO)

223 >>> I kind of like Rice, but while her bio is kind of wow-worthy, she's never wowed me with a statement or speech. I believe she wrote the speech that Bush gave to Congress right after 9/11...the one where the ahole donks like Hilary talked through and to her donk pals sitting behind her.

Posted by: Redd at July 13, 2012 12:03 PM (suLy7)

224

“It started when George W. Bush allowed Condaleeza Rice to take control of his foreign policy during Bush’s second term. It was Condi Rice who constantly favored ‘engagement’ with Syria while Basher Assad made Syria a transit point for arms and fighters headed into Iraq to kill Americans. It was Condi Rice who virtually jammed UNSCR 1701, UNFIL and the travesty of a ceasefire down Israel’s throat at a point when the war could actually have resulted in the defeat of Hezbollah..although to be fair, she had the help of Ehud Olmert and Tzipi Livni, the weakest leaders in Israel’s history. It was Condi Rice who insisted on inviting Syria to the the gang rape of Israel in Annapolis, which signaled clearly to the March 14th movement that they had better come to terms with Assad while they could, and who saw to it that millions in US aid were pumped into Lebanon even after Lebanon’s President Suleiman signed a defense pact with Iran.”
http://joshuapundit.blogspot.com/2009/12/lebanon-surrenders.html

She needs to be kept away from any administration.

Posted by: Redwine at July 13, 2012 12:04 PM (72Ob0)

225

Rice is an idiot. She was a total failure. She would be horrible for Mitt to pick, or even to muse about picking. Rice is a lefty who would be more at home running on the dem ticket. I am amazed that people forget all of these things (and more). She was an absolute disaster as SecState and is not conservative in any way, shape, or form

In other words: Colin Powell in a Dress

Posted by: Minuteman at July 13, 2012 12:07 PM (RFzr5)

226 230 ... thanks for pulling all that up ...

Posted by: Honey Badger, drinker of mead at July 13, 2012 12:11 PM (GvYeG)

227 "She might bring some foreign policy chops, but foreign policy isn't going to be a deciding factor in this election. Even then, her expertise was geared toward the Russians." The election will not turn on Mitt's VP pick. However, I think she rounds Mitt out. Obviously, they compliment each other demographically: gender, race, religion, orientation, hometown etc, but their experience and expertise is also complimentary. He's a successful businessman and governor with a background in finance. She's a brilliant wonkish intellectual who happens to also have been a controversial tough-as-nails NSA and SecState. I don't think she really appeals to any specific voter bloc, but she's more than fit for the job. She won't be the kind of VP who spends time corralling rambunctious legislators, but she would be a good spokesperson for the administration and her diplomatic experience and insight into Russia would help Romney better represent our interests. HOWEVER # 2: I'd rather see her head the NCAA or the NFL. I think she would too!

Posted by: Jordan at July 13, 2012 12:15 PM (RSG1I)

228 >>> I think that's why I'm against her. While she seemed like a rock star, and I rooted for her like she was a rock star, and even sometimes dresses like a rock star, she actually never had a hit album, and ten years later we'll all still sort of waiting for her to demonstrate her rock star status.

Sometimes I write Ace's posts...with my mind.

Posted by: Nicholas Kronos at July 13, 2012 12:20 PM (IGYyt)

229 I can't wait for the debate between Condi and Good Time Joe. Or even better Condi and Hillary!

Posted by: davo 119 at July 13, 2012 12:24 PM (0777x)

230 I'd hit it...I mean I'd vote for her!

Posted by: Paladin at July 13, 2012 12:27 PM (WujO7)

231 "You know what's shocking? Noonan says Rice is 57 years old. Fifty seven? She looks 40."

Black don't crack.

Or so I'm told.

Posted by: DRH at July 13, 2012 12:37 PM (xFoDt)

232

Me? I'm still holding out for Palin.

I wonder how many suckers went for the Condi fake?

Posted by: section9 at July 13, 2012 12:45 PM (9jQZa)

233

I suppose I could get used to the idea, but I think of Condi more as the super-capable nerd that you sign on to take care of important things. She has no experience as a politician, or running a government, but I suppose you could say that her job did at least deal with political issues, and she was the head of various organizations, so she does have some sort of executive experience.

 

The irony is that Hillary has gone pretty far, seems to have successfully claimed to have executive experience by being in the White House. This, even though she (unlike Condi) had no official duties, and even the only small thing she ran (her office) had a scandal. Managing to have a scandal as the First Lady must take some doing, and the part about documents mysteriously disappearing and reappearing in one of the most secure places in the world still strikes me as especially outrageous. But I digress.

Posted by: Optimizer at July 13, 2012 12:46 PM (As94z)

234 Most of the worst aspects of the Bush Administration --- the pandering, the clueless apathy on domestic policy, and the talk big but blow your load early and carry a tiny stick foreign policy incompetence.

Posted by: MlR at July 13, 2012 12:49 PM (vR2l5)

235

Count me as an admirer of Rice's service to the country who doesnt think she did a very good job in the Big Leagues and would imo be a rolling disaster as a VP pick.

The most obvious problem is that she knows next to nothing about the economic disaster unfolding in this country, and has no emotional connection whatsoever to the large part of the country's struggling middle class who will decide this election.

She doesnt speak Tea Party language, and imo she has ZERO ability or willingness to stop a liberal TV interview in its track when Pro-Bama bias rears its ugly and inevitably predictable head.

If the GOP VP nominee cannot connect with disaffected voters this year on the stump and on TV with openly hostile Pro-Obama reporters, then the ticket is in serious trouble.

Gov Jindal and Rep Ryan can do that in their sleep. To a lesser degree so can Trob Portlenty. Rice, not so much.

It doesnt mean shes a bad person or insufficiently useful to the country. But it does mean to me that she should never ever be seriously considered for VPOTUS.

Posted by: MikeD at July 13, 2012 12:52 PM (p8QOg)

236 I'm not necessarily going for the fake, but I'm glas there was at least a day of buzz about Condi. Seriously, Condi spoke at the 2000 RNC Convention and killed it. Probably the best speech of the convention, including W's. Got multiple standing ovations. She is a REALLY good public speaker. She is everything we want a woman in public office to be - smart, competent, funny but not comedic, classy, humble, and able to speak forcefully without being shrill and reminding you of your first wife. I think she would be a staggeringly brilliant choice as VP, ESPECIALLY because she voted for Obama. She is an expert on Russia, which is something the next President will need. She has served as both Secretary of State and National Security Advisor. I happen to think Romney needs some foreign policy cred, more than he needs to lock up this swing state or that demographic. He's going to have an entire debate on foreign policy, and he'll have a lot on his plate in that area once he is elected. As VP, Rice could handle all that stiff while Romney concentrates on the economy.

Posted by: rockmom at July 13, 2012 12:55 PM (vvEHK)

237 OK, I've reviewed enough commentary that I don't like the idea of Condi as VP at all now. And that was before I read the claim that she voted for Obama. The only possible reasons for THAT could be 1) racism 2) stupidity or gross incompetence or 3) a devotion to Marxism. That, alone, completely disqualifies her, in my book - you might want to think that through a little more, if you consider that a "plus".

Posted by: Optimizer at July 13, 2012 01:02 PM (As94z)

238

Certainly competent at what she has done but the number 1 reason to choose a GOP VP running mate?

Votes.

If chosen, there would be an initial interest but it would fade and her Bush associations would drag Romney down - not a lot, but no net positive.

Cheney seemed to always be butting heads with her.  It Cheney gives her the thumbs down, so be it.

This is whole thing is just noise and distraction right now.  Romney should not make an early announcement just to keep people guessing and to keep his options open until the convention.  Two can play the distraction game.

I'm giving Rubio 50/50 odds right now.

Posted by: Whitehall at July 13, 2012 01:06 PM (FmPSC)

239 Has someone thrown the VPILF flag yet? I'm not all that hot on dark meat, but I'd tap that like a frosty keg.

On a serious note, WTF is the DNC going to try and pull out of their asses (pun intended) to trash Condie? They can't throw the Race Card, they can't be sexist, they can't throw the Unqualified card, they can't throw the uneducated card (That's DOCTOR Rice...), so all they can do is throw the EEEEVIL CHIMPY McBUSHITLER!!!!!! card, and that's a recipe for failure.

Posted by: Smokey Behr at July 13, 2012 01:11 PM (QyeW7)

240 I think this news about Rice is all about fundraising and not much to do with Rice being seriously in the running for VP. That's the way it looks to me. This happened right on the heels of Romneys NAACP speech.

Posted by: exceller at July 13, 2012 01:24 PM (ROGMG)

241 The group of "journalists" lining up to rubber stamp condi rice, makes me highly suspect.

I think romney needs to get completely away from the bush presidency, in every way possible.  Forge new ground.  Pick a VP that's sort of fresh and new.  Not only and having the yoke of a much derided administration around her neck.

I'm hoping this is just to send out a little info to keep the dogs both lib/dem and rep/cons at bey.

condi rice is amazing.  She should serve in the administration in some capacity but not as VP.

Posted by: just me at July 13, 2012 01:33 PM (oZfic)

242 Too bad you can't have two people share the VP role.  Condi could then be one and the other could be Col. West.

Now that would be a heck of a ticket.

Posted by: just me at July 13, 2012 01:35 PM (oZfic)

243 The anti condi comments are fucking bewildering. What the fuck happened to the commenters here. Y'all used to be beautiful.

Posted by: Snoop dogg's index finger at July 13, 2012 02:10 PM (Eo54K)

244 Y'all really wanna go milquetoast?! What the hell will that accomplish??

Posted by: Snoop dogg's index finger at July 13, 2012 02:14 PM (Eo54K)

245 245 FTW

Posted by: Snoop dogg's index finger at July 13, 2012 02:15 PM (Eo54K)

246

Condi would be a good choice if she wasn't a member of the Bush administration for 8 years. If you think Obama is running hard against Bush now just imagine if there was an actual tie to Bush on the ticket.

 

It's the same reason I don't want Portman to be the VP.

Posted by: Colonel Pooteh at July 13, 2012 02:24 PM (PJK7P)

247

Rice is an anti-Israel, pro-abortion RINO; and Palin thinks she'd be "wonderful"? I've always argued that Palin wasn't nearly as conservative as her worshippers claimed. This,  coupled with Palin's endorsement of Hatch,  is vindication.

 

Palin has ALWAYS played identity politics with her gender. She played the "good old BOYS club" in AK and she endorsed RINO Fiorina over  Conservative  Chuck Devore even tho they were tied in the polls  at the time... all because  Fiorina is female.

 

Rice is  not only anti-Israel but she was against the surge in Iraq.  Completely incompetant.

 

All that said, I'm not in the least worried Mitt will choose a Boooooshie.  Mitt's too smart  to hand O  a alking point  on a silver platter.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at July 13, 2012 03:32 PM (KL49F)

248

Posted by: Reactionary at July 13, 2012 03:20 PM (xUM1Q)

 

Yes, I dislike Rice  because  she's pretty and successful -- not at ALL because of her dismal policy! Of course not! It cannot possibly be because Rice is for murdering unborn babies or forcing Israel to give up land, or being against the surge, or being a Boooshie. Nope. It's all because I'm JEALOUS. I base everything on looks and not on policy merely because I'm female.  Thank you SO much for pointing this out to me, O sexist wise one!

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at July 13, 2012 03:36 PM (KL49F)

249 I don't like the way that the MSM is trying to dictate Romney's VP pick.  I DON'T see Rice as a strong VP pick, I don't see her as a strong VP.  I COULD see her as Ambassador to some important country or something else statesmanship-like.

This pushing of Condi Rice seems to be a tactic to buffalo the Romney camp into a VP pick they might not want to take.  And if it works it doesn't give much hope for a Romney Presidency.  But, hopefully, I don't see it working.

Posted by: rabidfox at July 13, 2012 04:02 PM (HR/fI)

250 THANK YOU ACE! Glad I'm not the only one who's totally underwhelmed by Condi Rice. She may be smart as a whip, but she's a DISMAL public speaker. And she has NEVER run for elected office, therefore has absolutely no experience campaigning. And if she's lackluster to begin with, how much MORE lackluster will she be given that she was so enamored of the idea of a black president back in 2008 that she couldn't even be bothered to publicly support the GOP ticket. Plus, she will immediately be painted by the Democrats as Bush III, queen of the hated "neocons," since she played THE key role in Bush's foreign policy. I have the opposite gripe against her -- I feel that she really sold Israel down the river during Bush's second term. That is almost as hard for me to forgive as her pro-legal-abortion views.

Posted by: Kathy from Kansas at July 13, 2012 04:34 PM (F0o5k)

251 OK, I'll say it. Her looks are so hideous she HAS to be a democrat.

Posted by: Hal Burton at July 13, 2012 04:57 PM (vj51i)

252

She's white now.

 

Posted by: burt at July 13, 2012 05:31 PM (OzqQM)

253 "Besides, I would like to see the MFM trip over themselves trying to savage a black woman running for national office without damning themselves to Racism Hell." Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 13, 2012 03:21 PM (bxiXv) Obviously, you don't remember the incredibly racist editorial-page cartoons about Condi by Oliphant and others.

Posted by: Kathy from Kansas at July 13, 2012 05:32 PM (F0o5k)

254 Y'all naifs don't seem to realize that the point (THE point) of choosing Rice is RACE- kinda hard to accuse the Republican Party of racism and sexism when they're running a BLACK WOMAN.  That's REALPOLITICK and we need to quit ignoring it, being ashamed of it, and getting our asses stomped by it-

Posted by: DAve at July 13, 2012 05:42 PM (BoI09)

255 Dave, I totally disagree. Racism is when you ONLY see someone's skin color. Tokenism is disgusting and embarrassing. Our opponents would very correctly call us cynical. Intelligence and decency in this matter consist of selecting the BEST person for the job, no matter their race or gender. This is so obvious to me, I'm amazed it's even up for discussion.

Posted by: Kathy from Kansas at July 13, 2012 05:58 PM (F0o5k)

256 I'm neither for nor against the Condi Rice as Veep prospect. You could certainly do worse. I gotta disagree with those who say she's a poor public speaker. The first time I heard her, long before there was a Bush administration, she absolutely blew me away with a very stirring speech that really got my attention. Later I was not surprised in the least when she emerged in the Bush Admin. The lady can really wind up and uncork stunning speeches.

Posted by: Cowboy at July 13, 2012 07:22 PM (Bbiii)

257 Check out Condi's speech at the 2000 Republican convention. Or her articles in Foreign Affairs Quarterly. She actually has the intellectual ability that Obama imagines he has. I think she'd be a great president, which should be the criteria for a VP pick.

Posted by: John W. at July 15, 2012 05:47 AM (Hfieh)

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