1 it's long and multi-pronged I'll bet you tell that to all the goats.

2 What movie is this review for?

3 Ace can write a lot of words when both hands are consistently unoccupied.

4

 

Barky "killed Bin Laden"....and came out in favor of Gay Marriage.

 

How could that not 'offend the religious feelings of Muslims'?

I guess he wasn't worried about it.

5 Apparently those bodily fluids are indeed precious.

6 Unless you know short hand fu, you are way over the twitter limit

7 First they came for the communists, and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist. Then they came for the socialists, and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a socialist. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist. Then they came for me, and there was no one left to speak for me. Martin Niemöller As true today as it was then. Except now it's the muslims and not the nazis

8 This Saletan cocksucker again?

9 I want to go put my headphones on crank the volume up and not listen to anything because the only fucking person in the fucking world who makes any sense to me right now is Kirsten Powers and I do not understand it!

10 Actually it's simpler than that Ace.  It's the bien pensant thing you talk about from time to time.

It's just shallow playboy bunny level politics.

11 Don't believe for a second that Leftists are in favor of free speech. Dude! It's in the Constitution! Can't be good. The only "rights" those biatches like aren't in there: abortion, gay "marriage", free condoms, etc. The Statists say, "All your truth are belong us."

12 William Saletan is the economic genius who said the U.S. will never go 'bankrupt' because we print our own money. (before any out there thinks it's a good idea to tell me that technically it's true, don't waste your time)

13

#7:  That is a distinction without much of a difference. IYKWIMAITTYD.

14 I want to go put my headphones on crank the volume up and not listen to anything because the only fucking person in the fucking world who makes any sense to me right now is Kirsten Powers and I do not understand it!

R and R make sense.  Thank Bob.

15

 

Did muslims come out in favor of....'Womens Rights'?

 

How is it that the entire DNC Platform is not..."offensive to muslims"?

16 I don't think that anyone has said "William Saletan" this much since the little bastid left 3rd grade.

17 he is in fact the Bad Guy because, hey, he makes them feel bad ...coupled with never having to grow up. We've all felt bad because the Bad Guy- dad, our parents, society, religion- judged us as wanting. Some of us learned from it and continued to grow up. 'Progressive' 'artists' were told, hey, no problem! No need to grow up!

18 R and R make sense. Thank Bob. Posted by: eleven at September 13, 2012 02:40 PM (KXm42 Yeah but you get my point. I always knew the media was fucked up but Jesus Christ an ambassador is dead in a terrorist attack and the only thing anyone is talking about is Romney.

19 William Saletan: Obama is such a loser that I must instead devote my time to smearing Mitt Romney.

20 Saletan is the poster-boy for a self-loathing progressive: loves to shoot his mouth off but lacks the testicular fortitude to ever confront anyone who may actually do him bodily harm.

21 Can someone take this from 1:24 to 1:49 and post on YouTube? http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=k71x-TmobGo

22

This Saletan cocksucker again?

 

Posted by: Soothsayer at September 13, 2012 02:37 PM (jUytm)

 

Apparently, there are certain male individuals here at AoSHQ that actually do suck cock and who take offense at that term.  Why?  I have no idea.

 

Just mentioning it because I'm so sensitive to the feelings of others.

23 #1 and #3 seem to be the same. Not that it changes much in your stem-winder there, Ace, but #3 should be the oft-quoted artiste reason of gad fly, shit-stirring "asking questions," "push the envelop" tediousness.

Art now is the politics of affectation.

24 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable tyrant.

25 Wow! Spot on Ace.

26

The counter to speech that you don't like. Wait for it. Wait for it.

MORE SPEECH

Unless of course you're a fascist or communist. 

27 Whoa, what a day to be late to the internets.  But maybe it was good for me judging by all the scoamfy going on at the WH.

28 I was referring to th P*** Chr*** " look at me can I come to your party now" type of "art" in comment 10 if it wasn't clear.

29

For all of you Morons who play EVE please read:

http://tinyurl.com/8agvwow

It's a tribute to Sean "Vile Rat" Smith an EVE player and State Department employee who died yesterday in Bhengazi.

30 But Christians don't want gays to marry and Islamists want to kill gays.

So... wait a minute.  This didn't go the way I wanted.

31 You know... I might think, just based on reading this, that Ace had a little contempt for this Saletan fellow.

32 Maybe OT, maybe not, but I've read several comments today eluding to the Ambassador (and/or others that where murdered)  being sodomized.  Is this true?

33 Nice write up, Ace.

One thing though, I think you miss the mark a little when talking about Saletan's (and a vast number of others) motivation to suppress anti-islamic criticisms.  The simple answer is because he doesn't want his head cut off.

This is the exact same reason given by Penn and Jillette when they refused to talk about radical islam.  When they were asked why they didn't do a "Bullshit" special on islam, their words were to the effect of "because we have families".  Nothing cows the frightened like a bit of the odd ultraviolence.

34 I have a question: Who the fuck is William Saletan?

35 32 Maybe OT, maybe not, but I've read several comments today eluding to the Ambassador (and/or others that where murdered) being sodomized. Is this true?

  Not sure.. Not verified...I think not..

36 And did anyone find out more about that "U.S. Law Enforcement has identified the film maker" thing from this morning?

I mean, if they plan on taking away the first amendment, I'd like to know ahead of time.

37 Saletan is among those who think that they will be the ones guarding the camps, not among those inside the wire.  He is dead wrong.

38

True story - I knew William Saletan when he was a kid; he used to come to play practice at the high school (walked over from the elementary school) and catch a ride home with his sister (she was a couple of grades ahead of me).

 

Cute kid, very sweet and polite.

 

I think his family moved before he graduated from HS, because he lists a different HS on his FB page.  He lives in NY now, so I'm not surprised by some of his opinions.

 

But I still think of him as "Willie" or "Will", 'cuz that was  what everyone called him back then.....

39 I have a question to Saletan and his ilk. I am dead serious about this (pun not intended as you shall see) I am female. I am educated. I drive myself. I go out in public without male relatives. I do not wear the hajib. I am queer. Each and every one of those things is hateful to portions of Islam and the last one is considered an abomination that requires my death. Should I be put to death since my existence offends Islam and will instigate riots and more? Should I? Again, I am dead serious about this. If my saying I am queer will offend Islam, isn't that abuse of free speech? Should I be required to go back into the closet? Must I be forced to wear the hajib? How about the burqa? What line must I toe in order to avoid offending those members of a religion of which I am not a member? I want answers to these questions. I truly do.

40 36 And did anyone find out more about that "U.S. Law Enforcement has identified the film maker" thing from this morning?

I mean, if they plan on taking away the first amendment, I'd like to know ahead of time.

  Well if they're gonna arrest filmmakers how about Michael Moore?

41 Funny that Obama stands with the Islamists - the group actually warring on women - yet ours is the party of war on women.  This transcends Orwell.

42 Steve Martin gives him the bad news (paraphrased): "I think if they have a moral obligation to you but not a legal one you will begin to find them behaving cruelly towards you. You will find them treating you poorly, isolating you, speaking badly about you when you are not present. Even as they decide to stiff you out of what they owe you, they will compound that by behaving cruelly towards you, personally. They will not be apologetic about it; they will become increasingly hateful towards you."

The reason is this: When people know they have a moral obligation towards someone which they do not feel like honoring, for reasons of personal interest, or personal safety, or personal political agenda, they feel awfully bad about themselves for not honoring the moral obligation. They feel awfully bad that they are ignoring a moral obligation in favor of their own personal interests.

And people do not like feeling bad about themselves.

So what people do, is this: They begin demonizing the person to whom they have an inconvenient moral obligation, convincing themselves that he is in fact the Bad Guy because, hey, he makes them feel bad. So he must be the bad guy.

In fact, he must be a Monster.

And no one owes a moral obligation to a Monster.

And they'll do this even when aware of it.  Scienter and even high intelligence won't stop them.  Because nothing is more important that feeling okay about your bad deeds.

43

dude, watch some porn already.  This treatise is way beyond my attention span. 

Speaking of, does anybody else think Drudge's picture of the new monkey species looks just like the Sebeilus picture he has right next to it?   

 

 

44 The "fire in a crowded theater" is the most over-used and misunderstood cliche when leftist discuss freedom of speech.

You cannot restrict speech because it _might_ cause others to react toward death or violence. Only speech that _directly_ incites the listeners is restricted--insulting, offensive, vulgar, vile, rude, bigoted, racist and all other manner of impolite speech is protected. Because a government, if given the power to restrict disagreeable speech, will soon restrict any and all speech critical of the government.

Which is why the totalitarian left loves restricting speech that offends.

I'll just steal this from one of the commentators there:

I.e. "The man who shouts "Fire!" in a crowded theater is neither sending a political message nor inviting his listener to think about what he has said and decide what to do in a rational, calculated manner. On the contrary, the message is designed to force action without contemplation. The message "Fire!" is directed not to the mind and the conscience of the listener but, rather, to his adrenaline and his feet. It is a stimulus to immediate action, not thoughtful reflection. It is—as Justice Holmes recognized in his follow-up sentence—the functional equivalent of "uttering words that may have all the effect of force."" 
 
This doesn't apply to the film

45 As Lileks said today:

"ItÂ’s no great insight to note thereÂ’s a carve-out for certain groups who must be exempt from ridicule, and another group whose ridicule is an expected component of enlightened thought."

There lies the crux of the problem, created by our elitist "betters".  Screw 'em.

46 Will.I.Am Saletan? Never heard of him.

47 All this caterwauling about Mitt Romney is a full-fledged glaring admission that Barack Obama is a loser. A fucking failure and a loser, to be specific. This is an opportunity for an American president to shine; to show leadership; and display resolve on the world stage. But not Obama because he's neither an American nor a leader. Obama is a chump; a perpetual campaigner; a fraud huckster. Obama responds to this current crisis by doing the only thing he knows how to do well: campaign and talk about how great he is. Obama's rump swabs know he's a shitty president and lecherous person. And all they can do for their Campaigner-in-Chief is dutifully smear his political enemies, of which they only too happy to do.

48 I want answers to these questions. I truly do.

They'll get right back to you.

49 You will seldom find a self-described "journalist" who's willing to go on record as condemning art that denigrates or mocks Christianity. For that matter, you won't often find one who'll publicly admit to being a Christian. We're not talking about the sort of folks who are interested in revealing their vulnerabilities. They'd much rather talk about yours.

50

WASHINGTON (AP) — Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton is sharpening her criticism of an anti-Islam video that provoked protests in the Arab world.

Clinton says the film is "disgusting and reprehensible." She calls it a cynical attempt to offend people for their religious beliefs.

Funny, I don't remember Hill saying something like this about all of the anti-Christian crap that's made by her Hollywood pals

51

"The reason is this: When people know they have a moral obligation towards someone which they do not feel like honoring, for reasons of personal interest, or personal safety, or personal political agenda, they feel awfully bad about themselves for not honoring the moral obligation. They feel awfully bad that they are ignoring a moral obligation in favor of their own personal interests.

 

And people do not like feeling bad about themselves.

 

So what people do, is this: They begin demonizing the person to whom they have an inconvenient moral obligation, convincing themselves that he is in fact the Bad Guy because, hey, he makes them feel bad. So he must be the bad guy."

 

An ugly part of the human condition and one that I recognize in my personal life. It's a battle against those emotions that I feel I am winning and ultimately makes me stronger.

 

It's sad that many people succomb to it and feed off of it, turning them into pathetic and hateful bastards, which, not coincidentally, describes progressives.

52 Explosions in Cario

53 As usual, wonderful insight into human nature.

As a group, agnostics seem to be the most thoughtful and observant.

54 obama and his lackeys trying to change the meaning of the term Ally.

55 Free speech. I believe it was also ensconced in the constitution of the Soviet Union. Just words.

56 I say we go full Breitbart and tweet and email unethical reporters, columnists, producers. All of them. Harass them. I'm starting today with Peter Wellsten, the holder of the Rashid Khaledi tapes

57

39....I want answers to these questions. I truly do.

 

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Please? at September 13, 2012 02:48 PM (VtjlW)

 

---------

 

I know, Atc.

The Left's defense of Islam has never made any sense.

Now....they are getting tangled up in it.

 

I am waiting for them to try to rationalize and defend, the "death to non-believers" part.

 

58 It's an intolerable abuse of free speech rights to insult Islam.

Because kill me last, that's why.

59 I'd just like to say that from this moment on, I will no longer capitalize obama or islam. 

I'm done with that courtesy.

60

I'm sorry you felt you had to waste  so many words on Saletan,  but your larger point is well made.

 

To us,  not them.  Self examination  and study  of history  and its  parallels in human nature are not strong suits of  the North American Libtard.

61 I mean, if they plan on taking away the first amendment, I'd like to know ahead of time. Your wife won't mind if I move into your basement, right? I'll help her make the cheesecakes. (Actual ones, you pervs)

62 There is no consistency in Leftism.

They hate the industry but love their cellphones and Nike shoes.

They hate misogyny but support islam.

They hate "theocracy" but support islam.

They hate homophobia but support islam.

They hate employers but demand employment.

They hate Western culture but would not tolerate the sanitation, medical standards, technology or poverty of the Third World.

They love diversity but tolerate no opinions but their own.

They hate globalism but wouldn't pay for an iPod made in America.

They love "choice" when it comes to killing a baby, but not when it comes to choosing a school for your kid, buying large beverages or selecting your own medical coverage.

They admire communism but would never tolerate living in East bloc conditions.

Leftism is a mental defect.  It stopped being a coherent ideology ages ago.

63 I'm reminded of some libtard's comment when the mohommed cartoons first came out.  She said she couldn't understand why anyone would do such a thing.  "Don't they know that that's against their religion?"

Useless fucks, the whole lot of them.

64

I'd just like to say that from this moment on, I will no longer capitalize obama or islam.

I'm done with that courtesy.

 

Posted by: EC at September 13, 2012 02:53 PM (GQ8sn)

 

Indeed.

65 Anyone listening to Megyn Kelly right now? Even Kirsten Powers is ripping Oblowme for his stupidity

66 Shorter Slate: William Saletan is a sucker of cock.

67

The Left's defense of Islam has never made any sense.

--

"The enemy of my enemy is my friend".  To the left, conservatives are the most hated enemy, and they would rather destroy this country than let conservatives win.  This is why they don't mind $16 trillion in debt, headed to $20 trillion, a caliphate from Algeria to Pakistan, and terrorist attacks on American citizens.

68 Clinton says the film is "disgusting and reprehensible." One presumes she was not referring to security video tapes of Bill and Monica in the oval office.

69 Amateur Webzine Slate

70 I am waiting for them to try to rationalize and defend, the "death to non-believers" part. Not to be too self-centered, but I'm kind of focused on the death to me part of that. I mean, sure, sure, I care about the death to the rest of you paste eaters and window lickers too but I'm kind of focused on the death to me part first.

71 Repost from earlier: OT: GOP Electoral College Members vow to vote for Ron Paul http://tinyurl.com/8sxkf3f

72 Epic tweet series Ace. Ask if he responds if he is okay with the Pope down to local pteachers playing culture cop here. As a lapsed Catholic I seperate Church and state and have been told I must tolerate heresy "because." Is the answer to bothersome speech having a high enough danger aura the left shits itself?

73 Your wife won't mind if I move into your basement, right? I'll help her make the cheesecakes. (Actual ones, you pervs)

Well, we'd have to build a basement, first.  They're not really a thing in this part of Texas.

If you're willing to help shell out for ammunition and food, I could probably convince her to make the kids double-up and give you the resulting extra room, though.

74 The MFM are all in on this.  As such, it ends one of two ways.

75 "hateful stupidity."

PC bigotry.

btw, authoritarianism sucks, no matter it's source. Regardless of the ideological arena whether economic, educational, professional, political, religious, or sexual, I denounce anti-Spiritual propaganda. That includes art or curriculum coming from any quarter that feigns "free thought" and "independence" in order for the artist/teacher to enforcing the artists' own self-righteous dictate onto others, demanding compliance to the artists' will.

"Fart for its own sake" has nothing to do with creative expressions prior to the 20th Century. It doesn't matter which form an artist or human expresses spiritual affinity. There's inspiration. And the effort to express inspiration that stands on its own reception in the mind and heart of the recipient, that effort deserves respect regardless of creed. And if you don't like it, or see things differently, there's no problem since independent free thought exists in the creative realm.

76

alexthechick...

sometimes I read your posts and I just get choked up.

77

ace i attemptd to speak to this in another post.

 

if his ideas of speech are correct than christainity - judasm , buddhism  would all have a pretext to rise up and kill infidels of their specific or lack of beliefs.

 

we are obligated in unision to protect the speech even we ourselves abhore,

 

we don't or shouldn't bend to the least common denominator especially especially   now!

78 Mr. Saletan wouldn't know free speech abuse if it dressed up in shiny black vinyl, strapped on a 12" dong, and fucked him up the ass.

79 The scum in the US that profess to raise up the Muzzies and denegridate the Christians and Jews all have one thing in common. 



That one thing is their real religion which is "hate the US and everything it stands for".  You see, they have that in common with the Muzzies.


The only difference is that the Muzzies live in places like Lybia and Egypt and they live here.

80 I'll help her make the cheesecakes. (Actual ones, you pervs)Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Please? at September 13, 2012 02:53 PM (VtjlW)


So you'll be conducting basement cheesecake pit fighting with his wife?  Cool.

Can we get these tickets on Stub Hub?

81 And did anyone find out more about that "U.S. Law Enforcement has identified the film maker" thing from this morning?Posted by: AllenG

@vermontaigne
The Movie the Muslim World Is Furious About Might Not Even Be a Movie | Alternative | It's The Producers come to life. http://goo.gl/aEzQg

If the 'producer' did rip off investors, he'll be prosecuted and the O-min can tell the Muzzies that they took care of him.

82 Wait, who wrote this drivel in Slate... For a moment I thought it was Saladin, not Saletan.

83 From Fox News:



BIDEN: I'm supposedly an expert on foreign policy. Well, you know, an expert from where I come from is anyone from out of town with a briefcase. I do not have a briefcase.




Don't worry Joey, we know that you're just the village idiot

84

All these commie leftists making common cause with the jihadis, do they really think they will be free to live their pleasant lives of decadence once the jihadis take over?

 

Ask Trotsky how that worked out, once he was no longer useful to the commies they tracked him down all over the globe and snuffed him out.

 

 

85

alex,

 

well  can i be eaten second to last then?

86 39 AtC, Their answer is as soon as we import enough Muslims. My answer is a little different.

87 Mr. Saletan wouldn't know free speech abuse if it dressed up in shiny black vinyl, strapped on a 12" dong, and fucked him up the ass.Posted by: Mr Fever Head at September 13, 2012 02:56 PM (SzAZ7)

Go on.

88 #62 The Left is and always has been nihilist/utopian, obsessed with gaining power over others.  Their particular ideology is the fairy tale they have currently constructed for themselves, whatever that happens to be.

89 Clinton says the film is "disgusting and reprehensible." One presumes she was not referring to security video tapes of Bill and Monica in the oval office. Posted by: George Orwell what knows we are rather doomed at September 13, 2012 02:55 PM (AZGON) WHAT FILM? So far nobody has a record of any film, only a few out takes from a video on on the internet with no attribution. WHAT FILM? And who cares, this is the 21st Century, civilized people don't run amoke over a film and kill. If muslimns want to act like animals, then we will treat them like animals, with all due respect to well behaved animals

90
I want answers to these questions. I truly do.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Please? at September 13, 2012 02:48 PM (VtjlW)

 

 

Stompy boots are definitely halal, so you don't have to worry about that anyway. 

91 OT: GOP Electoral College Members vow to vote for Ron Paul Laup Nor better denounce that quickly or Rand is toast in the Republican Party.

92 A lot of people's commentary an political opinions can be boiled down to "Democrats good, Republicans evil".

93 I'm not a violent person by nature, but if they try to push for sharia law in this country, which I think is what is happening, I will take up arms. There is nothing worse for women than being subjugated to the irrational thuggish rule of Islam.

94 Are we nearing the end, because this is sure starting to look like chaos.

95 Is the answer to bothersome speech having a high enough danger aura the left shits itself? Yes. That is the logical conclusion of this line of reasoning. Yes. So you'll be conducting basement cheesecake pit fighting with his wife? Cool. Can we get these tickets on Stub Hub? No. You need a ticket oak for that.

96 well can i be eaten second to last then?Posted by: willow at September 13, 2012 02:58 PM (TomZ9)

You know, you really left the door open on that one, willow.

97

don't give up on alextopia!

at the least Smod , might sav us from this insanity!

98 i don't care how hungry i am....i don't eat people!!!! or dogs!!!

99 Posted by: RoyalOil at September 13, 2012 02:48 PM (imtbm)

You. Barrel. Now.

100 The news said they arrested 4 in Libya... Scapegoats probably...

101 There Is Only One Clusterfuck And Joe Biden Is His Prophet.

102 Are we nearing the end, because this is sure starting to look like chaos.

Someone call Unclefacts, Summoner of Meteors.

103 Sean,  i really did , but couldn't figure out how to walk bake wihout making it worse.

104 How  you  like  me  now,  chumps?  Fore  more  years!  LOL@U!   I'm  gonna  Tweet  that  bitter  clingers!

105 Now apparently the WH says egypt is an Ally. Isn't that precious.

106 By the way... Hillary Clinton and a manatee wearing a Mao jacket: is there a difference?

107 walk it back*

108 The time of purification is at hand

109 People like this idiot remind me of this passage from Tombstone:

Wyatt Earp: What makes a man like Ringo, Doc? What makes him do the things he does?

Doc Holliday: A man like Ringo has got a great big hole, right in the middle of him. He can never kill enough, or steal enough, or inflict enough pain to ever fill it.

Wyatt Earp: What does he need?

Doc Holliday: Revenge.

Wyatt Earp: For what?

Doc Holliday: Bein' born.

110 Some idiot on Twitter earlier was trying to defend the decision not to give the Marines in Cairo live ammunition.  Or, as he put it, he wasn't defending it, he was just pointing out why it was a good decision. (Yes, really).

I think most Leftists are like that: they think "Well, I don't agree with that, but I'm an enlightened, civilized individual; not at all like those knuckle dragging conservatives, so I will take the high-road and assume that this thing with which I disagree is actually a good thing."

Which, yes, is stupid, but no one (here, at least) ever accused the Left of being too intelligent.

And I think that's what idiots like this Satan dude (that's his name, right?) are doing.  They assume that whatever offends our sensibilities must be right and sensible, and whatever offends our enemies sensibilities must be wrong and mean.  They never bother to think about why, they're just sure that "right-thinking, civilized" people would believe that, so they force themselves to believe it.

It's like self-brain-washing.

111

This is the exact same reason given by Penn and Jillette when they refused to talk about radical islam. When they were asked why they didn't do a "Bullshit" special on islam, their words were to the effect of "because we have families". 

They had the spine to be honest about it.

112 106 By the way... Hillary Clinton and a manatee wearing a Mao jacket: is there a difference?

  Yeah... don't insult the manatee

113 well can i be eaten second to last then? Yes. *doesn't smack Bannion* What, I'm not going to reward you for that. If you're willing to help shell out for ammunition and food, I could probably convince her to make the kids double-up and give you the resulting extra room, though. I believe we can negotiate on those terms. I wasn't kidding when I told my parents that if things get bad enough I'm putting them in the car and we're all moving to the Republic of Texas.

114

62...Posted by: Cicero at September 13, 2012 02:54 PM (QKKT0) 

 

Nicely said, Cicero. All of it. ....And exactly so.

115 Sean, i really did , but couldn't figure out how to walk bake wihout making it worse.  Posted by: willow at September 13, 2012 03:00 PM (TomZ9)

It's all I can do to not come back with the obvious response.

Must....

Not....

Can't...

Arrrrrrrrggggghhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!

116 The news said they arrested 4 in Libya... Scapegoats probably...
Posted by: the pink not panicking


Probably Christians.  Or 100 Jews.

117 If you're willing to help shell out...AllenG

"All you can eat does not mean all YOU can eat!" -- Chinese restaurant owner/cook to the big fat lunch buffet hog who wouldn't leave any crab rangoon for the other customers batch after batch.

118 I hate libs, MSM, birm and muzzies equally. I am an equal opportunity hater. See my hash tag.

119

well can i be eaten second to last then?Posted by: willow

 

There is a line forming already.

120 where's Kratos when we need him?

121 101 There Is Only One Clusterfuck And Joe Biden Is His Prophet. A three letter word: P L U G S.

122 By the way... Hillary Clinton and a manatee wearing a Mao jacket: is there a difference? Posted by: George Orwell

The manatee's cooter smells more... fresh.

123 The Commandment is actually, "Thou shalt not murder."

Killing is not banned; murder is.

Not that this changes anything, because murder is what they are engaged in.

124 In the end, there will be only kratos.

125 Moochelle keeps announcing that obese Killery is the number one national security threat.

126 There is a line forming already.

To the left, single file.

127

"The reason is this: When people know they have a moral obligation towards someone which they do not feel like honoring, for reasons of personal interest, or personal safety, or personal political agenda, they feel awfully bad about themselves for not honoring the moral obligation. They feel awfully bad that they are ignoring a moral obligation in favor of their own personal interests."

 

Open question.  Is there evidence that conservatives in general  have this same reaction, or is this more of a characteristic of the  leftist mind?  Certainly, there are examples from the right, that I am too lazy to think of a this point.  But I would suscribe that many conservatives are less susceptible to this because (a) we tend to be more "religious" (which I use losely to simply mean we are God-fearing, and therefore (b)  if we have a moral obligation that we don't feel like honoring, we honor it. 

 

 

128 In the end, there will be no Cheetos.

129

Hillary Clinton and a manatee wearing a Mao jacket: is there a difference?

One eats aquatic plants, the other eats bearded clams.

130 I guess the fact that the Obama admin also disavowed the statement is kind of lost on this fella. He's kind of tarded.

131 The reason is this: When people know they have a moral obligation towards someone which they do not feel like honoring, for reasons of personal interest, or personal safety, or personal political agenda, they feel awfully bad about themselves for not honoring the moral obligation. They feel awfully bad that they are ignoring a moral obligation in favor of their own personal interests. And people do not like feeling bad about themselves. So what people do, is this: They begin demonizing the person to whom they have an inconvenient moral obligation, convincing themselves that he is in fact the Bad Guy because, hey, he makes them feel bad. So he must be the bad guy. In fact, he must be a Monster. And no one owes a moral obligation to a Monster. ____________________ Liberals to George W. Bush

132 William Saletan is mostly an idiot. I would not waste this many words discussing him because he's an idiot of a very common kind. Your essay, Ace, is fine on its own--you just need to point it at a more worthy target.

133 There Is Only One Clusterfuck And Joe Biden Is His Prophet.


Plugs be upon him.

134

Wyatt Earp:
For what?




Doc Holliday:
Bein' born.

 

Posted by: Vic at September 13, 2012 03:01 PM (YdQQY)

 

 

Top 5 all time fave movie.

135 sometimes I read your posts and I just get choked up. I don't know whether to say thanks or sorry. Posted by: Sean Bannion at September 13, 2012 03:01 PM (sbV1u) You realize I am both pointing and laughing at you, right?

136 It's too bad there isn't an exceptional, strong, free, brave, solvent country that could take the lead here. Or maybe a little while back.

137 nood now

138

There Is Only One Clusterfuck And Joe Biden Is His Prophet.

 

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at September 13, 2012 03:00 PM (+yYvY)

 

 

Oh that's gold.

139 50 WASHINGTON (AP) — Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton is sharpening her criticism of an anti-Islam video that provoked protests in the Arab world.

Clinton says the film is "disgusting and reprehensible." She calls it
a cynical attempt to offend people for their religious beliefs.

  Look...squirrel, and a nice shiny one at that!

140 It's confirmed, Ace is George Costanza. The longer he goes, the smarter he gets.


AtC, while we could argue (and plenty of people do) about being gay, you have the right to choose to live your life how you wish. Regardless of what I think of it. You are not physically infringing upon my, or anyone else's, right to live life. Therefor I have no binding say on your lifestyle. I say again, every American has the right to make their choices in life. And that's a right that every man on this blog, and I'm guessing the women too, will stand in front of you and defend to the last breath.

141 They said on the radio yesterday that KFC announced that they were making their chicken " in compliance with the Muslim tradition". This means making sure the animal is dead before you slit the throat. What a humane bunch they are. KFC can go fuck themselves.

142 I don't see how Saletan's screed helps Sandra Fluke stay panty-lips deep in Trojans. Eyes on the ball, people.

143 You realize I am both pointing and laughing at you, right?  Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Please? at September 13, 2012 03:05 PM (VtjlW)


I would have it no other way, my Queen.

As long as I have a front row seat on the edge of the cheesecake pit....

144 Hillary Clinton and a manatee wearing a Mao jacket: is there a difference?

The manatee is cuter?  Also, it has better judgement and fashion sense.

145

Ace, I wouldn't worry too much about misspelling Saletan's name.  Frankly, almost all Ashkenazic (Eastern European Jewish) family names are a meaningless grab-bag with interchangeable spellings depending on no factor at all.  Some are made up out of thin air (in the US, for example, thanks to all sorts of factors at immigration-processing time).

 

In terms of Jewish peoplehood and identification therewith/therein, the issue is what (in Hebrew alef-bet spelling, not transliteration) William Saletan (or any other Jew's) is named in being called to public reading of the Torah.  That and only that.  A Jew who gets worked up or snippy about "Goldstein pride" or some such is just talking out his/her tuches.

146 speaking of Mao...


"brainwashing" comes from a Chinese term invented by the commies--combining the characters for 'cleanse' or wash and 'brain'.  Prior to Mao and his flunkies, that term didn't exist


Used by the commies, it had a positive connotation--similar to 'purification' in Chinese.  Irony is problematic for lefties...

147

129Hillary Clinton and a manatee wearing a Mao jacket: is there a difference?<<<__<<<

 

I would only giggle if I ran over one of them with my boat propeller.

 

The other - I would both giggle AND clap my hands with glee.

  

148 Wyatt Earp:
What does he need?




Doc Holliday:
Revenge.




Wyatt Earp:
For what?




Doc Holliday:
Bein' born.

Posted by: Vic


Continued in the director's cut:

Doc Holliday:
Yeah,  revenge for being born in a sandy shit hole to a mother who wears a tarp and a father who's dick stinks of goat butt.

I can see why they cut that.  It borders on the vulgar.

149 I will stand in front of AtC as well, just far enough so she can't kick me in the ass with her stompy boots. For we either stand together or die alone. And I am not ready to die.

150 Basically shorter- It's scapegoat theory. It's always easier for the uneducated masses. The Arab Street has United States. The Liberals have George W. Bush- Then don't make me go Goodwin. If we lose this election it will be because we validated the concept of scapegoating, the over simplification of reality.

151 If pictures of Mohammed are offensive to good Muslims, one would expect that good Muslims avoid such pictures and that predominately Muslim communities would suppress such pictures. If they have never seen a picture or representation of Mohammed, how are they able to recognize one and go ape-shit crazy?

152 OBTW - Is it safe to presume that this was the first successful terrorist attack on sovereign US soil since 9/11?  Or were there other attacks out there that I am forgetting about.

I am not talking about warzone attacks here.

153 Also, a manatee has a much firmer grasp on geopolitical issues. Hillary and a manatee do share one interesting trait: they both shit where they swim.

154 And that's a right that every man on this blog, and I'm guessing the women too, will stand in front of you and defend to the last breath.

* raises hand *

I AM ALEXTHECHICK!

155

>>>If left to his own devices, without any contrary narrative to cast doubt on his claims, a coward can write an account of his heroic deeds in battle that would make Achilles himself quail.

 

 

[clap]. . .[clap]. . .[clap]

156 Posted by: EC at September 13, 2012 03:11 PM (GQ8sn)

157 Moochelle keeps announcing that obese Killery is the number one national security threat.

---

Yah know.... I saw that on Drudge morning this morning and I whigged out.   I would LOVE to hear ONE HONEST reporter ask  "Well, Michelle, when was the last time cellulite stormed an embassy, sodomized and killed our ambassador along with three staffers."

158 If they have never seen a picture or representation of Mohammed, how are they able to recognize one and go ape-shit crazy?


It's like the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle and Schroedinger's Cat Theory all wrapped up in one.

159 Does this Mao jacket make my ass look communist?

160 Top 5 all time fave movie.

Posted by: ErikW at September 13, 2012 03:04 PM (O4sdw)

Yep, everything came together for that movie.  Perfect script, perfect casting, and outstanding cinematography. It should have won every award that year.

161 Hillary Clinton and a manatee wearing a Mao jacket: is there a difference? Manatees don't munch carpet.

162

Your takeaway on that Yahoo piece I just read before coming here is exactly right.  Reuters has identified the film maker so that jihadis can kill him and, presumably, make all this badness stop.  Until the ulema whips up the ummah again of course.  Then we'll have to sacrifice the next person. 

Now we see how Islam slowly grinds a culture to death and replaces it.  Fear disguised as "respect" takes over and non-Muslims act as the mufti issuing the fatwa of death.  Amazing to see.    

163 152 OBTW - Is it safe to presume that this was the first successful terrorist attack on sovereign US soil since 9/11? Or were there other attacks out there that I am forgetting about.

I am not talking about warzone attacks here.

Posted by: Flounder at September 13, 2012 03:11 PM (Kkt/i)

 

 

There was that gun cleaning accident at Ford Hood a  few of years back. 

164 Since much of the Left is Atheist or Agnostic, they're a lot like Ringo @109. They like a cult with a stern speech code. They've eagerly adopted one for their own pathetic student council weenie clique. http://tinyurl.com/8eymeug What's surprising about soul-less automata flocking to something that tells them how to wipe their asses and brush their teeth? Shari'a is encroaching. Look what happened to Oklahoma. The people voted, and a judge said "O, thou slugs, the people!" http://tinyurl.com/8hhc36q

165

Oh God, Ace, I was with you 110% until you tried to diganose this mentality.  You could not be more wrong.

 

William Saletan is one of a vanguard of leftist idiots who over the last 40 years have rabidly championed one or another Third World population.  It is part of the warp and woof of modern leftist thought that the Christian West is Guilty Guilty Guilty of centuries of "oppression" of these Noble Poor Brown Peoples.  This organized sympathy and West-bashing was first aimed to the Vietnamese, then Africans, then people in Nicaragua/Honduras, and since the fall of the Sandinistas it has been the Palestinians.  The Palestinians are now the Holiest of the Holy Oppressed People to these assholes.  It is an article of faith to them that if such people, or those who support them, do kill Americans or any other people it is only because They Have Been Driven To Extremes By Our Oppression.  And they totally buy the Osama bullshit that terrorism has arisen only because the United States refuses to give all of Israel back to the Palestinians.  This is why they hate Israel, and the "neo-cons,"  ans why they REALLY hated George W. Bush -- because they didn't buy the bullshit about the Palestinians.

 

In this context the Mohammed movie is absolutely an abuse of free speexh because it offends the Holiest of the Holy Oppressed People and is actually, itself, Oppression!  Which is going to drive them to kill more of us!

 

I know it's really hard for normal people to understand this mindset, but I spent a lot of time around these people back in the 1980s and I get them.  John Kerry is one of the leaders of this vanguard.  The shit he said back in the 1980s about the Sandinistas and how wonderful was their revolution of liberation and other nonsense would make everyone here vomit.  Buit its exactly the same shit they are saying now about the Palestinians and the rest of the Muslim world.

166 Geez.  Freedom is so messy.

167

Not Reuters, AP. 

Everyone should read Rhinoceros by Ionesco.  Saletan just grew a horn.  

168 Posted by: rockmom

Sound like the "always root for the underdog" crowd.

Sometimes the underdog needs to be put down.

I really wonder if these idiots would have rooted for Hitler late in WWII.

169 Oh, and it's just a bonus if the source of the Oppression! is some wacky white American Christianist.  Because Saletan and his gang hate such people for cultural reasons, and if they had their way, they would all be dead or in concentration camps..

170 Ace,

'in which the Islamic mind is "closed" and "hidebound" and "haunted by superstition."'

FIFY

171 Sorry Ace, you're overthinking this. It's racism, pure and simple. They don't criticize anti-Christian art because they know nothing will happen. They criticize anti-Islam art because "those poor lowly creatures just can't help but strike out in response"...again, holding them to a lower standard because, in their mind, their a lower species.

172 #168 You can make their heads explode by asking that.  Of course they think that every Republican President since Nixon has been the second coming of Hitler.

173 You aced that post!

Can I ask the feds why they released all this info on the guy? Is this human sacrifice now to shut up the radicals? The blood is on Obama's hands.

If anybody votes for this fucking guy in November, they will get what they deserve.

174 Saletan, yet another character who makes a big show of respect and admiration for the crocodile in the hope that he'll be eaten last.

175 There was that gun cleaning accident at Ford Hood a few of years back.

Posted by: Havedash at September 13, 2012 03:15 PM (F0WNa)

Yeah, OK, I knew I would forget something.  Major differences, but still a tough sell.

176

It's not just "root for the underdog" it's "root for the Oppressed People That We Have Oppressed."  It's the remnant of the old anti-colonialism movement that drove a lot of the intellectual oppsition to the Vietnam War.  Many of thes people are now part of the AGW croed, becaue they see carbon-caps and such as a form of global reparations by the West to the Oppressed! Third World.

 

They will not wake up about Islam until the scimitar is literally at their throats to behead them.

177 Sorry for my shitty typing, I am worked up about all this stuff today and typing too fast.

178

To refute people like Saletan: "The Last Superstition: Refuting the New Atheism" by Edward Feser is a good place to start. These anti-Christian pretend-to-be-think-ers are so ingnorant it amazes me they are not laughed out of the room where serious thought takes place.

179 Saletan had no problem hatchet-jobbing the Catholic church, but  I'm not seeing any apology on the web anywhere.  I guess opinionated bigotry is OK if the targets don't come back at you with real hatchets.

180 "When people know they have a moral obligation towards someone which they do not feel like honoring, for reasons of personal interest, or personal safety, or personal political agenda, they feel awfully bad about themselves for not honoring the moral obligation."

Ah, the white guilt boom box amplified as the Christian Guilt boom box. pfft

Whoever wrote that is applying as if law their own personal expectation of public compliance to provide that author ample opportunity to abuse his audience. Granted, getting repeatedly woken up by rowdy selfish bastards, I feel awfully bad about assholes who blare their damned boom boxes so loud coming home at midnight that our entire neighborhood of homes shake and reverberate, predictably disturbing the peace. "Because they could."

Moral Obligation? Keep it simple. Stick to the Golden Rule.

If you wish, bow to Mecca only if you're not disturbing the peace. Sing your own call to prayer without blaring it from loud speakers disturbing the peace and good faith of everyone else.

I certainly don't feel bad for not being a Muslim or for not believing exactly what they believe. I am also relieved for not being an orthodox anything. There's reason to studying what others believe in order to understand and appreciate what exists in their reality. But so far as I'm concerned, the kingdom of God is within. Find it or not according to your own will. (btw, in Pope John Paul II's opinion, "God With Us" is denied by the Muslim religion, disconnecting those faithful from personally experiencing their Allah as merciful inside the global or "whole" human experience, despite all the pretty lip service. So long as they don't impose their business as my business, I'd leave it be except that they insist on making their business everyone's business in full compliance of Sharia.) As soon as people make a ritualistic religion out of an epiphany, it becomes man made and is arbitrarily applied across the board, disregarding epiphanies experienced by others, missing the internalization of creative inspiration and love, intentionally or not.

181 Ya but Mr. Saletan works for the New York Times so maybe he has some info you blogs don't? Our English teacher told us to write an essay on a controversy and evalute both sides so I will use you and him. I think Mr. Saletan is right that there is a time to speak and a time to be quiet. You wouldn't talk loudly in a movie theater or a library, would you? Even if everything you said was true and it didn't insult Muslims it would be an abuse. Ace you seem to be saying it's great to hate Christians. No, its just as bad as hating Muslims. Two wrongs do not make a right! (or two Wongs do not make a White, that is my bf Brandons favorite joke).

182 50, 139

Exposed by CNN, Hillary disavows her own moveon.org movie production.

"Curses, foiled again."

183 Ya but Mr. Saletan works for the New York Times so maybe he has some info you blogs don't?

Yep. Obama on his shoulder.

184 #9  The reason Kirsten Powers is making sense is that she is married to an Egyptian doctor,  and from the very first of this "Arab Spring" she was warning about how the Muslim Brotherhood was going to take over.  Her in-laws didn't much like Mubarak,  but they told her they were more worried about who would replace him.

NO ONE on Fox would listen to her.  They were all in the "wonderful student uprising" mode,  not understanding anything about what was going on. 

Kirsten Powers makes sense because she actually knows what is going on on the ground in Egypt.   And she says the middle class and the Christians are terrified.  Thanks,  Obama.  Your dream of a new Caliphate is near fruition.

185 I've noticed that some people will pick a proxy for the thing they hate, if they're really afraid of repercussions.   So liberals hate hate hate religious bigots like....Catholics!  Yeah, that's it!  Because of the Inquisition, Galileo, and stuff. 

186 In Soviet Union, ambassadors kill you!

187 I am female. I am educated. I drive myself. I go out in public without male relatives. I do not wear the hajib. I am queer. Each and every one of those things is hateful to portions of Islam and the last one is considered an abomination that requires my death. Should I be put to death since my existence offends Islam and will instigate riots and more?

You know, I'd like an answer to this question as well. Because, excepting the last characteristic* this describes me too.


*a number of faintly disturbing dreams about Sofia Vergara might mean this is still an open question.

188 This is a brilliant post, Ace.  It sums up the entire left.

189 Link to the Spanish Prisoner film clip in question: http://tinyurl.com/93m74xc

190 181 Ya but Mr. Saletan works for the New York Times so maybe he has some info you blogs don't? Our English teacher told us to write an essay on a controversy and evalute [sic] both sides so I will use you and him.

I think Mr. Saletan is right that there is a time to speak and a time to be quiet. You wouldn't talk loudly in a movie theater or a library, would you? Even if everything you said was true and it didn't insult Muslims it would be an abuse.

Ace you seem to be saying it's great to hate Christians. No, its just as bad as hating Muslims. Two wrongs do not make a right! (or two Wongs do not make a White, that is my bf Brandons favorite joke).

Posted by: JennyLoveBrandon at September 13, 2012 03:38 PM (UOYbf)

For consideration for your essay;

1. Use spell check.

2. Reread Ace's post.  If you get that Ace is saying it's great to hate on Christians, consult wikipedia: sarcarsm.

3. Don't confuse the constitutional right of free speech and it's valid limits, with common courtesy, or with the constitutional right not to be offended.  Tip: the last is made up.

4. Brandon is the ghey. Evidence? Wong jokes.

Good luck with your essay.

191

"Does not Islam deserve some doubt?"

 

Word.

192 168

I did this once as an experiment on some people I knew at college.  They were going off on the Palastinians and about 5 other groups I can't recall anymore.  I spun a tale of a country wracked by economic depression, caused by a war and subsequent economic punishment by 'the Imperial Powers', who were just starting to get their house back in order.  Part of their ethnic group lives in another country, across a border, but if they could have that area they'd be contiginous, and they say the other country is oppressing their ethnic group and want permission to go in with military force to try to save their people and to help develop the economy.

They thought I was talking about some place in Africa and wanted to know where so they could bring light to these peoples' situation.  I almost got decked when I told them that they were supporting Hitler's invasion of Czechoslovakia.

193 Obama is a stutteriing clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

194 ven10077 ‏@SvenJOlafson

#civility means apologizing to the guy about to behead you preemptively for getting blood on his shoes

195 I don't know what to call the "thought processes" that go on in the liberal brain, so I'm using quote marks.  Their ability to twist facts until they fit The Narrative is never less than astounding. 

196 I almost got decked when I told them that they were supporting Hitler's invasion of Czechoslovakia.

Fucking awesome.

197 This is one of the best responses to the "must not insult islam" crowd that I've read. This should reprinted in every newspaper in the West. Brilliant writing, Ace !!!

198 Heroics be damned.  These cowards have willingly become the spotters painting targets for their murderous masters.

199 I reject the entire premise starting with giving Little Willie any credibility. Not even in 140 characters would I do so.

Where does it say Little Willy and his liege have some type of mastery over social issues which begets our serious consideration or attention?

He a partisan pushing a partisan philosophy which ignores facts, promotes false memes and is generally sophistic. It plays on emotions and artfully uses them as a substitute for cogitation.

It's actuall a lazy, loathsome, self-indulgent endeavor they engage in to satisfy their own egos and lack of stature.

It's like trying to reason with an idiot who has no basis for factual, intellectual argument. Dialogue with a 6 year old is more productive.

200 Seems this type of garbage is conceding the war to Islamists by imposing Islamic blasphemy laws on the West and treats Muslims as nothing more than mindless animals. It's kind of like a shark attract. When someone gets killed by a shark it is never the shark's fault because sharks are mindless killing machines and sharks do what sharks do.

201

AtC

~I don't know whether to say thanks or sorry.~

No need for either.

To me you represent...are a symbol... of the freedoms I fought for.

I don't like bullies...and same bad nasty bullies want to do bad things to you, and our society as a whole.

War isn't coming...it's already happening.

202 "197 This is one of the best responses to the "must not insult islam" crowd that I've read. This should reprinted in every newspaper in the West. Brilliant writing, Ace !!!"
_______________________________________________________
Tuned in to see if the idiot Shep Smith had anything beneficial to say.  Nope!
He's pushing the meme that people like the man (which I think he called an "imbecile") can create a backlash like this, and then had on another idiot that agreed with him.

Shep doesn't even listen to his own news programs just before him.......that pointed out that these attacks are well coordinated by a small vicious crowd who used the crowd to cover their actions of committing a terrorist attack against America , and didn't just spring up in reaction to the YouTube video (or anything).

BZZZT!  Shep still wins the Dumbo or Just Plain Stupid Award on Fox.

203 TYPO: The man who created the video... can create a backlash.....

204

90I want answers to these questions. I truly do.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Please? at September 13, 2012 02:48 PM (VtjlW)

 

"Over our dead bodies." 

205

"So what people do, is this: They begin demonizing the person to whom they have an inconvenient moral obligation, convincing themselves that he is in fact the Bad Guy because, hey, he makes them feel bad. So he must be the bad guy."

You could extend this to the way that people who voted for Obama in 2008 (and who now see that he is a fraud) treat those who never voted for him and won't vote for him now. We recognized Obama's screamingly obvious incompetence when they did not.  Now, because they like to think of themselves as intelligent, thoughtful people, they'd have to admit that they were anything but when they fell for Obama's smoke and mirrors in 2008.  So, instead of doing the moral thing -- admitting that they were wrong and that there mistake is damaging this country  --- they demonize those of us who were right to avoid feeling bad about themselves.  When you throw in their fear of being called "racist" if they don't continue to support an inept, bloviating fool who just happens to be half black, that gives them a mindset virtually inpossible to penetrate with logic.

If there are more of these jerks, plus the union stooges and the gooberment hand-out freaks, then we can kiss this country goodbye.

206 Quick question:  Is Tim Robbins feeling that "chill wind" blowing in this country again?

Or not so much for people who disagree with him?

207 The primary purpose of anti-Christian art is to shock the squares and get noticed. Art has abandoned being about any transcendent concepts or notions of objective, absolute beauty. It has moved beyond being about emotionally compelling pieces which force the viewer to confront their soul and question their presumptions about life.
Now its just about making the right sort of political targets uncomfortable and angry. Its how you get noticed, how you get space in a gallery. Its why Banksy is the hottest artist alive today.

208 Bravo!

209 From Saletan's wiki entry: "Saletan has written several articles about bioethics and sexual ethics, criticizing what he sees as homophobia within the Roman Catholic Church." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Saletan No, I didn't go in there and alter it before posting.

210 A contributing cause of the fall of the Byzintine Empire ( classical civilazation) was the Iconoclast wars. An idea imported from p-isslam. We are fighting those wars now, again.

211

152

a "war zone" is anyplace with a critical mass of muslimes. Thats why, in more lucid times, its call the "global war on terror" because that is what to expect..

212 Ace- you really are brilliant when you write these long expositions. It's what keeps me coming back. Fantastic piece.

213

"Indeed, they will even, at the end of the day, help jihadists find the inconvenient Monster in order to murder him, and thereby make the Bad Feeling About Oneself go away."

This is EXACTLY what I've been thinking today.  Thanks.

 

 

214 I'm late to the game, but after reading Ace's Saletan twitter feed, I think Ace could have slam-dunked Saletan with a reference to the murder of Theo van Gogh, which took place in November, 2004.

You see, van Gogh made this movie about Islam, and that made some people very angry, and, well,  they must've failed Art Appreciation in the sixth grade because one of them expressed his opinion of the work with a gun and a knife.

215 Hypocrites like Saletan make me sick. In plain English, they just don't have the guts to stand up to Islamists so they cover their cowardice with a phony concern about the abuse of free speech. I really enjoyed this article and agree with it totally.

216 141 Ktgreat: They said on the radio yesterday that KFC announced that they were making their chicken " in compliance with the Muslim tradition". This means making sure the animal is dead before you slit the throat. No, it means killing the animal by throat-cutting (hallal). What a humane bunch they are. KFC can go fuck themselves. Big deal. A KFC in my neighborhood has been offering "zabiha" or "hallal" chicken for years. The slaughter method is exactly the same as used by a shochet (kosher butcher). The only difference is that a shochet says the required prayer once, when he starts work, while the Moslem butcher repeats the prayer for each animal killed.

217 THIS is why I f***ing read Ace of Spades. THIS is f***ing Ciceronian. THIS is a f***ing as thorough a rhetorical take-down as I've ever seen.