I thought this was over now that it's clear Obama himself was the original birther for decades.  But I guess because the MSM refused to cover that bit it never happened. 

Stalin was a piker compared to these guys. 

The birther thing isn't going to hurt Romney and Romney knows that. 

It's the hysterical types in the Republican media who think Trump is going to cost us the election but that is absurd.  If J. Wright and Bill Ayers didn't cost Obama, why would Trump cost Romney, Trump seems much more reasonable than J. WRight and Bill Ayers and liberals say we can't even talk abou those 2 guys.

Posted by: BlackOrchid at May 29, 2012 06:23 PM (SB0V2

Agreed.  Barry could rip open his face revealing a reptilian pod-person and his followers would fall on their knees in ecstasy.  His loss to Mitt will be epic.

Posted by: Coward Robert Ford at May 29, 2012 06:26 PM (4BzOb)

Hi Brett! How's the felony conviction?

I think everyone is missing the point with the Birther argument.   At this point, it's really questioning the MFM, not where BHO was born!  

Think what would happen it proved true?   It would be one of the final nails in their crediblity coffin.

I hope Romney's camp does not fall for it. 

From what I've seen of Mitt's campaign responses so far, I don't see it happening. Hopefully, he'll continue to be the anti-McLame.

Some good ol' strength from a Pubbie candidate would be a welcome change of pace.

Posted by: Coward Robert Ford at May 29, 2012 06:26 PM (4BzOb)

I see our resident asshole has joined us for this evening......

The captive audiences in airports all over the country are snickering.  And that's the only people that are really watching CNN.

CNN.  Just one more letter than the Cartoon Network.

Wolf.  Blizter.  ?

The thing to note is WHO brought the subject up...

Wolf had this prep'd with Graphics and Video ready to go... he WANTS this to be an issue.. when it isn't.

but this is the same 'science is settled' and 'racist White Latino' type of stuff they try to spin all the time.... they make it sound like you have an extreme position... (war on women)... and use that to try to dismiss EVERYTHING you may say.

Posted by: nevergiveup at May 29, 2012 06:34 PM (05RcU)

No, its just selective Family Story telling....

Posted by: Coward Robert Ford at May 29, 2012 06:38 PM (4BzOb)

Yes, because SWAT teams, locked and loaded, banging on your door when your family is there is sooooo much fun...

Posted by: PaleRider at May 29, 2012 06:39 PM (dkExz)

I want a Bumper Sticker that says "Barak Obama WAS the Origional Birther!'

Romeo,

That's not what happened in either RSM's case or Big Red's case.  I think there are some dubious aspects of their stories, but if it's true they should have no problem proving it and getting independent verification.  So far both of their stories have not been verififed by anybody not named RSM or Big Red.   Big Red in particular has a recent history of trying to insert himself into the story and I actually had a lot of doubts about RSM's claim b/c of that thing with Big Read and then lo and behold Big Red comes out with a claim he too was also Swatted.   I thought that was pretty hilarious.  

The 52% proved their point. What-ever-the-hell it was. I hope they enjoy the smell of self-induced despair as we circle the toilet with increasing revolutions per minute.  - Schrodinger's Cat

The sad thing is that with the US being the world's reserve currency, we still have that huge ace in the hole with respect to the Euro, etc.  Barack and his Choom gang in DC can continue his profligate and irresponsible ways for a few more years before everything does come crashing down.  And it will still be "Bush's fault".

Excellent point tying Obama to Sharpton, one of the nastiest racial demagogues of all American history.  Someday people will wake up (many already have), but openly talking about it is still anti-PC.

kateuptondancing dot com

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still dancing

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Excellent point tying Obama to Sharpton, one of the nastiest racial demagogues of all American history. Someday people will wake up (many already have), but openly talking about it is still anti-PC.

Given Not-So-Sharpton's high profile and his  urge  to stick his nose in the Trayvon/ GZ case, he's fair game. It's about time we on the right took command of the narrative. And the   dialogue.

Tie these two together and throw them over some power lines, rhetorically.

The MFM. What can you say? The attack on the Catholic Church continues. I've heard no MFM story on the religious liberty lawsuits. However, this morning's Today Show had a story "the butler did it." The Pope's Butler allegedly giving away papal "secrets." Story speculated that the "leaks" were from "dissidents" who were wanting to change course in the evil Church. IOW, the entrenched Commies are fighting against JP2 earlier and B's current efforts to get them out of the Church. See Latin America and Liberation Theory. BTW, even though the secrets have been leaked, NBC chose not to share the "secrets" with us. Boy, must be pretty bad then, right? Guess I just have to trust their narrative.

Wolf Blitzer: A low IQ dullard dressed up in nice clothing. A fraud. A Potemkin Village of a man. When he opens his mouth under the spotlights, the light travels through his mouth and shows up as a mouth outline on the wall behind him.

Like so many others.

http://tinyurl.com/6qxmhfx

ObamaÂ’s campaign was happy to add fuel to the mini-media firestorm over the former Massachusetts governorÂ’s decision to raise money with the real estate and reality TV tycoon, who is currently the nationÂ’s most vocal believer in the debunked conspiracy theories that claim President Obama was born in Kenya, not Hawaii.

In a statement released Tuesday afternoon, Obama’s deputy campaign manager, Stephanie Cutter, criticized Romney for “his complete lack of moral leadership.” Earlier in the day, the campaign put out a video contrasting Romney with Sen. John McCain, saying that the 2008 GOP nominee "stood up to the voices of extremism in his party” while Romney, the presumptive 2012 nominee, has not.


“Now he’s even standing by silently as Trump assails John McCain’s courage in standing up to the most extreme and hateful voices in the Republican Party — all in order to raise money for himself,” Cutter said in a statement. “If Mitt Romney lacks the backbone to stand up to a charlatan like Donald Trump because he's so concerned about lining his campaign's pockets, what does that say about the kind of president he would be?”

Trump is something of a trifecta for the Obama campaign – he’s a symbol of the right-wing fringe, a symbol of extreme wealth and somewhat lacking in the presidential gravitas department. If the Obama campaign folks can make a hint of those elements rub off on Romney, they’re happy.

Alex, may I have stupid network anchormen for $100 please?

LA Times 3 1/2 years ago:

Ties between the SCoaMF and Rashid Kahlidi...what? 

Posted by: Tami at May 29, 2012 06:44 PM (X6akg)

Yes! Thank you.

Did you look at that freak web site?  Yikes.

Hollowpoint,

I'm not well liked at FreeRepublic.  Lot of rigid people over there, unlike this website and others.

Posted by: momma at May 29, 2012 06:52 PM (oKsWl)

Only if you believe THEIR narrative.

Trump is Trump... he is NOT Romney, nor officaly associated with his campaign...

All Romney needs to do, is say " Unlike others, I do NOT tell others what to say or believe, because it is their RIGHT as Americans to form, and speak, their own opinions.  I speak for my Campaign.... Trump speaks for himself.'

If the Obama campaign folks can make a hint of those elements rub off on Romney, theyÂ’re happy.

Good luck with that. Wishcasting, it's not a river in  Africa...

Posted by: Say What? at May 29, 2012 06:55 PM (b7L99)

It looks exactly like the document released by Obama.  Obama's only looks peculiar when you examine it more closely. Then you see mixed graphics formats and bit depths all mixed together. All sorts of oddities pop out.

I personally think the document was created by the Department of Health in Hawaii, but not in 1961. I think the document is a recent replacement birth certificate issued to someone who has been adopted, or had an adoption annulled.

Posted by: momma at May 29, 2012 06:55 PM (oKsWl)

No....I'm not in the mood to puke. ;o)

Posted by: Coward Robert Ford at May 29, 2012 06:56 PM (4BzOb)

If Hollowpoint was over there, he'd last a couple of days before he got zotted, and that's presuming he could even get through the initial screening for assholishness.

Posted by: Meiczyslaw at May 29, 2012 06:57 PM (bjRNS)

Hey man, haven't you ever hear of, like, coexist?  Coexist, man.  We're all in this together.  It says it right on the back of my Prius.

I'm not pro-Kimberline simply b/c I question the veracity of RSM and Big Red's claims.  Some of you idiots are trying to suggest I'm in cohots with Kimbeline or I'm a Kimberine apologist, despite me saying he's a bad dude and a NUTJOB so many times that I'm kind of tired of saying it b/c it's stating the obvious.   Ease up on  me, I'm just a dude with an opinion and I don't pretend that I have proof of my little theories.

Posted by: Say What? at May 29, 2012 06:55 PM (b7L99)

What they produced were not copies of the origional birth cert, but a computer printout they label as 'Official', printed years later.

So, you must take the word of Hawaiian Officials, that everything on that Document is Correct (note, I say correct, because in the case of adoptions and name changes, Birth Certs ARE amended, and we have some evidence that Barry Soetoro was adopted... or had a name change, or somthing...).

Posted by: CoolCzech at May 29, 2012 06:38 PM (niZvt)

Could double his viewers.

Posted by: shibumi at May 29, 2012 06:54 PM (z63Tr)

Seen them here in Jersey as well. Usually on Volvos or a Prius.

Then here's a helpful hint: State your opinions coherently, with paragraph breaks... and less frequently.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at May 29, 2012 07:05 PM (SY2Kh)

And on subject?... at least for the first 100 posts of a thread or so....

Hollowpoint,

You seem like a control freak.  I haven't posted on here that much, and i don't see any kind of limit or ration on how much somebody can post on here.  You take things way to seriously.  We will all be dead soon enough and none of it matters.  Lighten up before it's too late.

So these people like Trump for caling the way he sees it as long as the way he sees it is the same as the way you see it and then he's a self promoting asshole who needs to get cancer and die b/c he's screwing everything up for Romney hyperbole.

Something you should get with all thy getting: a clue.

I was going to vote for Romney b/c Obama has kind of sucked, but I've decided to run vote for Obama b/c Romney associated with Trump and Trump is a birther.

This doesn't seem like a likely scenario among a significant % of voters to swing the election one way or another yet what do many Democrat and Republican politicial pundits want to tell us?  That is is likely.  

"Today, President Obama will honor her with the Presidential Medal of Freedom for a lifetime dedicated to workers' rights and social justice. She joins the ranks of other luminaries throughout history, including Cesar Chavez, Martin Luther King Jr. and Mother Teresa, who have received this much-deserved honor.

"At 82 years young, Dolores still continues to empower people through the Dolores Huerta Foundation, which organizes low-income immigrant communities in the Central San Joaquin Valley for better access to education, health care, fair lending and a cleaner environment. Her passion for justice has expanded to include women's equality, reproductive rights and LGBT issues. Her dancing eyes and sweet voice continue to inspire people across the country and around the world, just like they did for a young girl from La Puente who grew up to be the first Latina in a president's Cabinet. Today, she is my mentor, adviser and wonderful friend. And she is still beautiful."

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 29, 2012 07:04 PM (X3lox)

Ah! I see you've met Hollowpoint.

And she is still beautiful.

Blecchh. Gag me with a gavel.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at May 29, 2012 07:10 PM (SY2Kh)

See, he keeps using the derogatory term "Conspiracy nuts" and it is nothing but circular logic. As far as i'm concerned, he is an apologist for the lyingest man in History. He sees nothing wrong with all the hedging and with holding of documents, and anyone who thinks Barack Obama should present his bonifieds is obviously a "conspiracy nut", and therefore deserving of ridicule.

So the campaign team loves the fact that to this day he hasn't produced enough to get a drivers license? All the arm waving and footstomping in the world about how much he's released doesn't change the fact that we still have a highly suspect pdf file, and a buddy who vouches that its  "swear to god" real. Both of which would get him laughed out of the DMV.

Posted by: Jimbo at May 29, 2012 07:12 PM (O3R/2)

Well, he has a Hawaiian document anyway. Another man claims to have one as well, though he also claims to have been born in Brisbane Australia. Hawaii has been seemingly not so careful in their guardianship of the National character.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at May 29, 2012 07:13 PM (SY2Kh)

Don't like the competition eh?

Posted by: imp at May 29, 2012 07:19 PM (UaxA0)

Dude, Hollowpoint and Jeff B. are with the darkside.  They are assholes whether you agree with them or not.  It's their nature and it's why we love them so much.  They give the blog a bite.

176coward at the beginning of this thread was saying how is was no big deal for Romney tot hang with the birther trump. then says he won't vote for Romney because he hangs with birthers.

he always talks about kimberlin, always with the disclaimer that he isn't interested in it.

he then defends kimberlin by claiming eveyone else is a liar.

don't take my word for it. watch what it does.

You kind of missed the point.  I was pretending to be the kind of voter who would swing from voting for Romney to Obama b/c Romney won't denounce or refuse to associate with Trump. 

In my mind, the birthers are only guilty of wishful thinking if they are guilt of something.  I think there is a desire to equate birthers with the 9-11 truthers, and that's not the same kind of thing.  Others disagree no doubt.

Posted by: Minuteman at May 29, 2012 07:27 PM (7QVqE)

I think Jeff B. mentioned something about being a lawyer in an earlier thread. (Or I'm mistaking him for someone else.) What's Hollowpoint's excuse for being an asshole?

Romney's birth certificate evokes his father's controversy -  (see PDF in story for certificate)

http://tinyurl.com/7w8tq3d

Posted by: Coward Robert Ford at May 29, 2012 07:28 PM (4BzOb)

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If thats the case its time to stock up on the most non perishable food you can find. Last I checked, Trump is no Reverend Wright or Bill Ayers, so uhh... the country deserves to go down if that many people would switch to SCoaMF over Romney not associating with Trump.

Posted by: dagny at May 29, 2012 07:24 PM (Z5iSP)

It's a new diet

Posted by: Hollowpoint at May 29, 2012 07:31 PM (SY2Kh)

I don't give a flying rat's ass about HAARP, nor do I believe in "Conspiracy Theories." Oswald shot Kennedy, We landed on the Moon, and the Elders of Zion don't exist. (I'm sure I left some of them out.)

I have met plenty of people who believe crap for no good reason, but you are one of the few people I have ran across, (other than liberals) who refuses to unbelieve crap for good reason. You just refuse to look at any information which doesn't fit what you want to believe.

Posted by: Rodney King at May 29, 2012 07:38 PM (zb8KH)

No ! ...Thump, crash, bang, boom

Posted by: Jimbo at May 29, 2012 07:32 PM (O3R/2)

I've ran across that theory before, and I reject it. It is my understanding that the microfiche is stored in multiple locations, and even the Mormons supposedly have a copy of it for their genealogy research. 

I have no doubt that those two newspaper announcements occurred in Hawaii during August of 1961.  I think such notices are printed automatically whenever Hawaiian DOH is notified of a birth by a resident.

Posted by: Jimbo at May 29, 2012 07:35 PM (O3R/2)

Why postulate a complicated theory when a simple one will suffice. Newspaper announcements are produced by a list sent from the Registrar's office whenever they are notified of a birth. The State of Hawaii became aware of the existence of Barrack Obama in August of 1961.  That doesn't mean they have proof he was actually born there. Hawaiian law allows for the creation of birth certificates for the children of Hawaiian residents, regardless where such children are born.

Posted by: Coward Robert Ford at May 29, 2012 07:34 PM (4BzOb)

Are you suggesting that the truth sounds like a "Conspiracy theory"?  Who woulda thunk?

Posted by: Hollowpoint at May 29, 2012 07:35 PM (SY2Kh)

Dude, i've argued with you before. (Here, and I believe at Hot Air as well.) You can lie to others about how reasonable you are, but my experience is that you started off screeching like a wounded sow, and you have never tried to resort to reason. 

By the way everyone, *I* have a fake birth certificate myself. It was created six years after I was born during my adoption proceedings. FAKE documents coming from State governments are nothing new. In the United States, the 50 states produce 120,000 fake birth documents every year. (That is the number of adoptions in the United States every year.)

@lamp

I never thought that I would see a story about one naked dude EATING the FACE of some other naked dude in South Beach.

Then it happpened.

So some true stuff does also sound crazy and unbelievable. 

Posted by: Jimbo at May 29, 2012 07:44 PM (O3R/2)

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I don't think anyone here will dispute that the SCOAMT is a con-man.   What I find disparaging is the thinking that a BC, whether it's real or not, identifies Baraka as an American. 

He's never been an American.  And, doubtless, never will be.   In his heart he's a bitter Kenyan at best, a lying, pompous Stalinist/Maoist bent on the destruction of this country at worst. 

Thunder,

It's spelled Kimberline.

Thunder,

Everybody else is telling me an idiot so I misspell the word on purpose like Kimberline to tweak them.

Posted by: Jimbo at May 29, 2012 07:49 PM (O3R/2)

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He's an Affirmative Action PRESIDENT. If he was a white guy, he never would have survived the primary, but nowadays you can't say that without everyone saying you're a "RACIST."  I point out that the "Racists" are the ones who judge a man by the color of his skin, and not by his character. (Which in Obama's case we know is terrible.)

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Had Obama been judged fairly on his accomplishments, and not had the Thumb of affirmative action pressing down firmly on the scale, thanks to the media, he never would have managed to become President. (And i'm still not sure he *IS* a legal President.)

Charlie,

Search engine hits?  What, you think Coward Robert Ford is going to have a blog up on the internet in a few days. 

I'm just an engineer in b/t jobs with some time to kill and this story caught my attention and possiblly my imagination and the rest is history. 

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at May 29, 2012 07:49 PM (nEUpB)

How can you tell he's arguing with a retard? Everything he says seems retarded.

Posted by: Coward Robert Ford at May 29, 2012 07:59 PM (4BzOb)

It happens to have the ring of truth about it. Just look at a few years worth of news stories regarding the British NHS, and the prospect of a "Death Panel" requires no imagination.

Jimmy-Joe,

Who's bullying the homos?  I've always thought a lot of gay people are kind of militant about their politics. 

Posted by: Jimmy-Joe at May 29, 2012 08:07 PM (xU2OO)

John Kerry was scum. All I needed to know about him I learned in the 1970s by watching him backstab the people who fought the war in Vietnam.

Jimmy Joe,

The Swift Boat Vets were vets too, and they included Kerry's entire chain of command and jsut about everybody that knew him except one guy that he could have bought off.   They forced him to retract his claim he was in Cambodia during the war as well as the reason he gave that got him his first Purple Heart. 

If you are going to play the vet card, that blows up in your face b/c all Kerry's critics were vets.  Why should we side with Kerry over all of them?   

thunder

You seem to be stalking me.  Can't say I blame you though i'm eye candy.  I need to pay some bills then I'm going "underground" again b/c I suspect I will be targeted by Kimberlin and his criminal enterprise for calling him a NUTJOB on an internet comments board. 

Posted by: Coward Robert Ford at May 29, 2012 08:21 PM (4BzOb)

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I don't know if they were banning people who were supporting Romney, but Romney supporters were certainly getting attacked by the majority over there.  I think people may have been going out of their way to find rule violations with which to get them zotted by the management.

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I pretty much stayed out of those discussions. I was a Herman Cain supporter, then a Rick Perry supporter, and after that I didn't have a dog in the fight anymore.  I didn't care for Romney (still don't.) and I didn't care for Gingrich. (still don't.)  I was slightly cheering for Rick Santorum, but I had grave concerns that he would alienate the mushy middle too much.

Jimmy,

Seems like James O'Keefe did kind of expose Eric Holder and voter fraud in Eric Holder's own district.  It's kind of hard to deny that. 

Liberals have tried to demonize the swift boaters but they  never actually refute their claims. 

At this point, this reminds me of the "War on Women", followed by the "War on Dogs", in how they both totally backfired.

But let's cut him some slack. Guys like Wolf only listen to each other, so he may not even know the recent development that Obama, himself, was the original Birther.

Yeah, it's the latest episode of "You just can't make this stuff up."