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August 15, 2012

Zogby: Romney Cracks 41% Support With Young Voters
— Ace

41% obviously isn't great, but we're going to lose this demographic (probably...), so it's a matter of how bad we lose it.

41% isn't so bad. Considering that only 49% support Obama -- not 59% -- there is room for Romney-Ryan to grow.

Zogby has been especially interested in the youth vote this election. In 2008, 66 percent chose Obama over Sen. John McCain,the highest percentage for a Democrat in three decades. But their desire for hope and change has turned to disillusionment and unemployment. Zogby calls them "CENGAs" for "college-educated, not going anywhere."
In his latest poll, Obama receives just 49 percent of the youth vote when pitted against Romney, who received 41 percent.

I'm omitting the part about putting Gary Johnson into the mix. Long story short, Gary Johnson keeps Obama at just 50%. Romney's numbers go down, too, but Obama doesn't get more than 50% among the young.

Zogby speculates that Romney's selection of 42-year-old Rep. Paul Ryan helped turn more younger voters to him. "It could be his youthfulness," said Zogby of Ryan. Plus, he said, more younger voters are becoming libertarian, distrustful of current elected officials and worried that they are going to get stuck with the nation's looming fiscal bill.
"They want change," said Zogby.

Yes, change. Math and Change.

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1 But the hipster douchebag demo still goes for Jugears by 88% to 12%.

Posted by: Cicero at August 15, 2012 01:16 PM (QKKT0)

2 But they're still stupid.

Posted by: nickless at August 15, 2012 01:16 PM (MMC8r)

3 Will the youth vote even show up this time?

Posted by: SH at August 15, 2012 01:17 PM (gmeXX)

4 Hey Girl, MATH! will help you get a job to pay off that student loan....

//Ryan

Posted by: sven10077 at August 15, 2012 01:18 PM (LRFds)

5 Are the kids allright?

Posted by: Dr. Varno at August 15, 2012 01:18 PM (t8fEg)

6 Will the youth vote even show up this time?

Posted by: SH at August 15, 2012 05:17 PM (gmeXX)

This ^ ?

Posted by: The Jackhole at August 15, 2012 01:19 PM (nTgAI)

7 2 Nickless,

the only youth vote that aren't are working youth, youth that were scuffed up by life as kids and work, or properly trained youth...

I'll take "stupid" as long as they are "trainable"

Posted by: sven10077 at August 15, 2012 01:19 PM (LRFds)

8 Ryan, Romney, 'Rithmetic.

Posted by: General Zod at August 15, 2012 01:19 PM (2+bRt)

9 I'm hoping the Obama hipster demo will be too lazy to vote in November.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 15, 2012 01:19 PM (UOM48)

CENGAs will see the RR ticket as a pathway out of mom's basement and into their own life after college. Funemployment is kind of boring after a while.

Posted by: kallisto at August 15, 2012 01:19 PM (jm/9g)

11 3 Will the youth vote even show up this time? Posted by: SH at August 15, 2012 05:17 PM (gmeXX) That's the thing.

Posted by: Underground Vulgarian at August 15, 2012 01:19 PM (OIuTH)

I will deliver the Ute vote.

My people.

Posted by: E. Warren at August 15, 2012 01:20 PM (2cfUo)

13 Boy928 says his college cohort is meh on the SCoaMF, at best. The prospect of no job and large debt apparently brings some focus to the circus.

Posted by: toby928© at August 15, 2012 01:20 PM (evdj2)

14 6 Jackhle,

their apathy will hurt Obama more than us if equally applied....

Ogabe was the cool dude who was gonna give them stuff and close 'gitmo....now he is not the Obama that I used to know....

//emo song

Posted by: sven10077 at August 15, 2012 01:20 PM (LRFds)

15 Jug ears and race baiting are cool. And haters need to be murdered.

Posted by: Hipster in a knit cap - in summer at August 15, 2012 01:21 PM (Ky1+e)

16 Zogby calls them "CENGAs"

♪ You take a block from the bottom and you put it on top ... ♫

Posted by: Waterhouse at August 15, 2012 01:21 PM (8Gp95)

17 youngsters won't be coming this time.

Posted by: Texas T at August 15, 2012 01:21 PM (YItiX)

18 Was this poll conducted on euthanamerica or on euthanasia?

Posted by: LGoPs at August 15, 2012 01:21 PM (4x8W0)

19 Oh noes! The catpiss troll told us the no young person would ever vote for the republican!!!!!

Posted by: phoenixgirl, team dagny at August 15, 2012 01:21 PM (feMGA)

20 Anybody know the numbers from 2008?

Posted by: Adam at August 15, 2012 01:21 PM (/YJYi)

I'll bet Obama cleans house with the hyena vote.

Posted by: LGoPs at August 15, 2012 01:22 PM (4x8W0)

22 How will they win the youth vote without Biden? The kids love him!

Posted by: nickless at August 15, 2012 01:22 PM (MMC8r)

23 6 Jackhle,

their apathy will hurt Obama more than us if equally applied....

Ogabe was the cool dude who was gonna give them stuff and close 'gitmo....now he is not the Obama that I used to know....

//emo song

Posted by: sven10077 at August 15, 2012 05:20 PM (LRFds)

I also think if Obama starts being seen as un-cool the wheels among young voters will come of very quickly

Posted by: The Jackhole at August 15, 2012 01:22 PM (nTgAI)

24 Do the youth give a damn about Afghanistan anymore? Because when Boooosh! was in office, that was their Big Thing. Now, *crickets*.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 15, 2012 01:22 PM (UOM48)

25 I'm hoping the Obama hipster demo will be too lazy to vote in November.>>

We need to get the message out that not voting is very very Ironic.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at August 15, 2012 01:22 PM (tf9Ne)

26 They probably won't stop smokin the dubes and firing up teh xboxes but at least they won't be voting for O-BA-MAH!1! like in '08.

Posted by: some guy at August 15, 2012 01:22 PM (v1uZf)

27 Youth hooked into Hollywood. Enough said.

Posted by: fairy dust votes at August 15, 2012 01:23 PM (HOOye)

28 Obama's sewn up the 'Prone-to-Chick-fil-A-related-violence' demographic.

Posted by: nickless at August 15, 2012 01:23 PM (MMC8r)

29 I also think if Obama starts being seen as un-cool the wheels among young voters will come of very quickly At the rate shit has been going these last couple of months, Obama is probably going to be seen as un-black by election day.

Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at August 15, 2012 01:24 PM (ogdab)

30 Keep pushing that P90X stuff out there, folks. Contrast it with Mom Jeans Who Can't Throw a Baseball.

Posted by: Y-not at August 15, 2012 01:24 PM (5H6zj)

Occupy the vote !111!!!1111!!....

wait, where is everyboby ?

Posted by: Hpster at August 15, 2012 01:24 PM (2cfUo)

32 Look we're playing right into Liberals' plans! First, we win a majority of likely voters... then make gains on youth... and next minorities. WHEN WILL THIS IDIOCY END??!!? Portman for VP!

Posted by: CJK at August 15, 2012 01:24 PM (MrM2k)

33 Ol' Joe is just biden his time until November.

Posted by: LGoPs at August 15, 2012 01:24 PM (4x8W0)

34
Bill Maher goes full racist.

http://tinyurl.com/9jl2qcg

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 15, 2012 01:24 PM (QK3qp)

35 The Five is playing the trailer the SEALs have out telling Barry and his minions to STFU with the leaks.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 15, 2012 01:25 PM (UOM48)

36 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable tyrant.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at August 15, 2012 01:25 PM (8y9MW)

37 I call that the "face to foot" style. How'd you like that? WANT SOME MORE?

Posted by: Barack Obama at August 15, 2012 01:25 PM (MrM2k)

38 As a college-age guy, I can tell you that it's not Ryan that has anything to do with the youth demographic shifting away from Obama. Nor is it Romney. It's people my age wondered what the hell happened after they elected their perceived Messiah. This has been building for about 18 months. I'm willing to bet a lot of the younger voters who say they prefer Romney to Obama won't vote for Romney; they'll sit the election out.

More succinctly, younger voters are realizing that they've just been lied to all along.

Posted by: EJ at August 15, 2012 01:25 PM (Q//Lj)

39 49 to 41? Seems to me that's pretty good.

Posted by: Biden, Joe Biden at August 15, 2012 01:25 PM (ergax)

40 24 Do the youth give a damn about Afghanistan anymore? Because when Boooosh! was in office, that was their Big Thing. Now, *crickets*.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 15, 2012 05:22 PM (UOM4

Gee, what could be different for the last 3+ years? Hmmm, maybe the nonstop breathless body count blared everywhere you looked that promptly disappeared when the unicorn princess took office.

Posted by: Ms Choksondik at August 15, 2012 01:25 PM (YOZSv)

41 I was listening to Hannity the other day and he was interviewing kids that were either going off to college or just starting college, they knew nothing about nothing.

It was frightening.

Posted by: General Woundwort at August 15, 2012 01:26 PM (06lNq)

42 24 Do the youth give a damn about Afghanistan anymore? Because when Boooosh! was in office, that was their Big Thing. Now, *crickets*. ItÂ’s time for Americans to realize that governing is hard work, and that a president canÂ’t just wave a magic wand and fix everything.

Posted by: young Ellie Light at August 15, 2012 01:26 PM (HNn1q)

43 Math and Change.

Put that on a bumper-sticker.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at August 15, 2012 01:26 PM (8y9MW)

44 The university bills aren't sitting pretty with the young. (I see more free money being thrown their way.) And, as they hear how they will have to give up the car (payment) for healthcare, umm, yea, no. And, there are no jobs for them... Why on earth WOULD they vote for Obama? Oh yea, hanging with the rappers, jocks, hollywood crowd... ooohhh aahhhh

Posted by: fairy dust votes at August 15, 2012 01:26 PM (HOOye)

45 At what age did I move out of the youth vote? When will I get to be part of a mono-lithic voting block? I wouldn't mind it if they simply said, the "Common Sense" voter will once again overwhelmingly vote against Obama.

Posted by: SH at August 15, 2012 01:26 PM (gmeXX)

46 I put more research into my $500 iPad purchase than my $120,000 college degree in the humanities. I blame the Republicans.

Posted by: Hipster in a knit cap - in summer at August 15, 2012 01:26 PM (Ky1+e)

47 Someone should ask Bill Maher if black people don't have ID because they're poor and take the bus, how do they buy their Mad Dog 20/20 and Kools?

Posted by: nickless at August 15, 2012 01:27 PM (MMC8r)

48 *Ugh* it's Zogby. Zogby damn it. Zogby he of the interactive self selecting internet polling--and something else.

Posted by: tasker at August 15, 2012 01:27 PM (r2PLg)

49 3 Will the youth vote even show up this time?

Posted by: SH at August 15, 2012 05:17 PM (gmeXX)

I'd start handing out Romney/Ryan condoms at colleges. That way, they're either too busy gettin down or excited for free birth control. Win/win!

Posted by: Ms Choksondik at August 15, 2012 01:27 PM (YOZSv)

50 Its sad to me that in this economy with young people at nearly 30% unemployment, 41% is good news for Republicans. I mean I know that young people lean left and are basically idiots but seriously? This president is turking you with a barbed cactus in the job market. You want more of that?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 15, 2012 01:27 PM (r4wIV)

51 Why do we always have to have polls?

We need more of what I want blarbarbarbarbvar.......

Posted by: whiney winkey at August 15, 2012 01:28 PM (KXm42)

52 37 I call that the "face to foot" style. How'd you like that? WANT SOME MORE? Posted by: Barack Obama at August 15, 2012 05:25 PM (MrM2k) I'm sure on some planet your style is impressive, but your weak link is: this is Earth.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at August 15, 2012 01:28 PM (bxiXv)

53 I heard Rush's guest host today ranting about Pell Grants. I don't know if this means anything, but it's what got me to vote for Mondale. Yes, that was me. Me, and Minnesota, while the rest of you demonstrated a basic level of common sense, but Mondale promised me more grants, fewer loans. What can I say, I voted for change... in my pocket.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 15, 2012 01:28 PM (2pG7H)

54 @41 Ripe mush minds for the indoctrinating!

Posted by: A-hole commie professor at August 15, 2012 01:28 PM (v1uZf)

55 I was listening to Hannity the other day and he was interviewing kids that were either going off to college or just starting college, they knew nothing about nothing.

It was frightening.

Posted by: General Woundwort at August 15, 2012 05:26 PM (06lNq)

I don't think it changes much once they finish college

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 15, 2012 01:28 PM (1Jaio)

I appreciate the sentiment, but I still find the use of the style of the soviet-propaganda propaganda posters unsettling - for any US politician.

Seriously. The guy had it all out there for everyone to see, back in '08, but the independents either refused to (or didn't bother to) see it, or didn't care. Now the most ubiquitous evidence is used as pop culture, like nothing happened.

Posted by: Optimizer at August 15, 2012 01:28 PM (As94z)

57 30 Keep pushing that P90X stuff out there, folks. Contrast it with Mom Jeans Who Can't Throw a Baseball. Posted by: Y-not at August 15, 2012 05:24 PM (5H6zj) Not to mention my little sisters' bike, replete with dork helmet, flowery basket (since photoshopped out) and ting-ting bell. Gut-sy Call, baby. Gut-sy.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC at August 15, 2012 01:29 PM (ergax)

58 Our son has turned a fellow Marine away from Commander Choom, and is working on another one.

I love my kid.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 15, 2012 01:29 PM (UOM48)

59 We need a demonstration of the P90X Ultimate workout by Ryan, please.

Posted by: female fairy dust voter at August 15, 2012 01:29 PM (HOOye)

60 I'm sure on some planet your style is impressive, but your weak link is: this is Earth. Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at August 15, 2012 05:28 PM (bxiXv) Best stoner movie ever.

Posted by: HoboJerky, profit of DOOM! at August 15, 2012 01:29 PM (MrM2k)

61 39 49 to 41? Seems to me that's pretty good. This time, the real me.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC at August 15, 2012 01:29 PM (ergax)

62
But Intrade has Obama up by 20%!!!!!!!

Suck it Greg.

Posted by: In before the troll at August 15, 2012 01:29 PM (TIIx5)

63 I love my kid. Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 15, 2012 05:29 PM (UOM4 We ALL love your kid.

Posted by: female fairy dust voter at August 15, 2012 01:30 PM (HOOye)

64 I think we've stumbled upon the October surprise: Legalize Choom! Personally, I think we should be handing it out on November 5th.

Posted by: toby928© at August 15, 2012 01:30 PM (evdj2)

65 I can't say it any better than #36! I don't think the youth will vote for Obama, they'll either stay home or vote for Romney. I'm sure they would like a job.

Posted by: CarolT at August 15, 2012 01:30 PM (z4WKX)

66 I could totally see Ryan doing a PX90 workout video. Bunk. Like a viking.

Posted by: HoboJerky, profit of DOOM! at August 15, 2012 01:30 PM (MrM2k)

67 I don't think it changes much once they finish college

You beat me to it. The ignorance is astounding. Like not being able to find England on a map type shit.

Posted by: eleven at August 15, 2012 01:31 PM (KXm42)

"It could be his youthfulness," said Zogby of Ryan.

And I yield the floor to the Moronettes.

To avoid being trampled.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at August 15, 2012 01:31 PM (d0Tfm)

69 Is today troll day off?

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Regular With Full Stomping Power! at August 15, 2012 01:31 PM (0q2P7)

70 >>Â“For Mitt to win in November, he just needs to do as well as Bush with the youth vote: about 40%. ObamaÂ’s under-performing with the youth vote Â— he had 66% in 2008. Not anymore. ThereÂ’s some opportunity there. I think itÂ’s doable for Romney with a 60/40 split.Â” >>HereÂ’s where Rove comes in. http://tinyurl.com/cthflqh Strategery.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 15, 2012 01:31 PM (TMB3S)

71
Deprogramming takes time. You guys have no idea.

Posted by: Katie Holmes at August 15, 2012 01:31 PM (UuLBC)

Posted by: Y-not at August 15, 2012 05:24 PM (5H6zj)

___

Al Sharpton actually is trying to use Ryan's fitness against him. He featured the guns pic you made famous on his "gotcha" segment, implying that Ryan spends so much time working out he couldn't possibly have focussed on the budget.

Posted by: kallisto at August 15, 2012 01:31 PM (jm/9g)

73 From what we've heard, there are very, very few serving in the military who like their CiC.

A few voted for him because of his skin color, and others bought into Hope and Change.

Now the rumor is out on bases that Obama wants to suppress their votes.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 15, 2012 01:32 PM (UOM48)

74 And I yield the floor to the Moronettes.

Yield is such a pro-active term for "cower" isn't it?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at August 15, 2012 01:32 PM (8y9MW)

Isn't the youth voter of 2008 now in the unemployed voter category? Do pollsters lump them together?

Posted by: SH at August 15, 2012 01:32 PM (gmeXX)

76 Its sad to me that in this economy with young people at nearly 30% unemployment, 41% is good news for Republicans. I mean I know that young people lean left and are basically idiots but seriously? Today's 18-29 were 6-18 when SoreLoserman happened. They were 7-19 when 9/11 happened. They were 9-25 when the ravages of BDS devoured the country. Can you really blame them for being tuned-out? I'm just hoping they don't make it to the polls.

Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at August 15, 2012 01:32 PM (ogdab)

77 What was the percentage the JEF got of the yout vote in 2008?

Ima gonna guess it was a tad more than 59%

Posted by: RoyalOil at August 15, 2012 01:32 PM (imtbm)

78 All my friends who were die hard Obama supporters are now depressed as hell. My generation got it's first political disappointment, lesson learned.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at August 15, 2012 01:32 PM (NzBQO)

79 Basically, if Romney can use a strategy of denying Obama three demographics, the young vote, the black vote, and the liberal professional vote (academics, etc.), he will have the election sewed up. These were the three demographics that were all in for Obama in 2008. Already we see that black voters are less enthralled with Obama (Homosexuals), the young voters are bailing (unemployment) while the liberal professionals are doubling down for Obama. Lower numbers in two out of three will cripple Obama. This is probably what the internals for the Democrats are already showing. Their only hope is that enthusiasm for this election will be so low that no one will want to vote. But we already know that is not going to happen. The undeniable truth of this election is that too many people want to throw Obama out.

Posted by: Harry at August 15, 2012 01:32 PM (+BEaq)

Obama- doesn't care if you are broke and can't get a job or be able to buy stuff.

Romney- will help you move out of mom's house and have your adult life back.

Posted by: willow at August 15, 2012 01:32 PM (TomZ9)

81 all we have to do is switch their zoloft and ritalin for placebo and all freaking hell is going to break loose. they aren't just ignorant (made so by the schools!) but they're also MEDICATED I sound like Mr Hand again! hey all - back from work - miss you during the day! Still having a very good feeling about this Fall . . . I work with young creatives . . . things are changing in a big way! that magic, she is gone. not coming back, Mr Choom.

Posted by: BlackOrchidMissesDagny at August 15, 2012 01:33 PM (J6kXj)

82 Kimberly Guilfoyle just smacked down Beckel over his crowing that Barry killed bin Laden. She informed him she has friends serving who can't stand him.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 15, 2012 01:33 PM (UOM48)

83 More succinctly, younger voters are realizing that they've just been lied to all along. Posted by: EJ at August 15, 2012 05:25 PM (Q//Lj) ======= Which is pretty much par for course if you look back throughout history. (sans Reagan) I'm hoping this Romney/Ryan ticket is the real deal for a change. I think that is what people are starting to feel. Romney is not old politics. Ryan is the young gun.

Posted by: female fairy dust voter at August 15, 2012 01:33 PM (HOOye)

84 My guy smoked weed. No one knows how well he did in school. He's never had a real job in his life before he became president. He authored almost no legislation as a state or US senator. He hangs out with Michael Jordan, George Clooney, and dreamy Leo Dicaprio.

Your guy graduated Cum Laude from law school, was a Baker Scholar at his business school, donates several million dollars to charity a year, donated every dime of his inheritance to a school for the impoverished, and is an extremely successful businessman.

The choice is clear.

Posted by: Youth Vote at August 15, 2012 01:33 PM (/YJYi)

85 Best stoner movie ever. Posted by: HoboJerky, profit of DOOM! at August 15, 2012 05:29 PM (MrM2k) Please forgive Wimp Lo, he is an idiot. We purposely trained him wrong, as a joke.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at August 15, 2012 01:33 PM (bxiXv)

86 The E-Trade baby is on board with Romney?

Posted by: Craig Poe at August 15, 2012 01:33 PM (BVkEs)

87 FRC shooter identified as Floyd Corkins, 28, of Virginia.

Posted by: nickless at August 15, 2012 01:33 PM (MMC8r)

88 My generation got it's first political disappointment, lesson learned. Apparently, every generation gets it's Jimmy Carter. Alas.

Posted by: toby928© at August 15, 2012 01:34 PM (evdj2)

89 I'm thinking the October Surprise will be an attempt by Obama by Exec Order to waive all student loan debt...

Posted by: H Badger at August 15, 2012 01:34 PM (n/0Nw)

90 OT: I'm actually posting to you in the middle of a surgical procedure! They have my face opened up right now, and they are removing an aggressive infection I got sometime yesterday. I am soooo hopped up on goofballs atm

Posted by: Truman North, iPhone ninny at August 15, 2012 01:34 PM (clOq9)

Restore America's Future ("not affiiliated with any candidate") has an ad with the Three Great Quotes:

"Shovel ready jobs weren't that shovel ready"

"Our plan worked"

"The private sector is doing just fine."

I hope they add "You didn't build that" and buy up all the air time they can afford.

Posted by: Jim in Virginia at August 15, 2012 01:34 PM (IbWc8)

92 Al Sharpton actually is trying to useRyan's fitness against him. He featured the guns pic you made famous on his "gotcha" segment, implying that Ryan spends so much time working out he couldn't possibly have focussed on the budget. Posted by: kallisto at August 15, 2012 05:31 PM (jm/9g) ======= Hehe, yea. WeaselZ had that vid. Laugh of the day.

Posted by: female fairy dust voter at August 15, 2012 01:35 PM (HOOye)

Young adults=Romney= job=power over your own destiny.

young adults=Obama-unimaginable debt- no work- no getting ahead. -no power over your own destiny -beholden to govt.

Posted by: willow at August 15, 2012 01:35 PM (TomZ9)

94 Like not being able to find England on a map type shit.
Posted by: eleven

Maps are flat and Nostradamus proved the earth was round so England can only be seen on a globe, you fucking idiot!

Posted by: Hipster in a knit cap - in summer at August 15, 2012 01:35 PM (Ky1+e)

95 All those smarmy college kids who voted for hope and change in 2008 are now going to vote for jobs.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at August 15, 2012 01:36 PM (Z6meB)

96 53 I heard Rush's guest host today ranting about Pell Grants. I don't know if this means anything, but it's what got me to vote for Mondale. Yes, that was me. Me, and Minnesota, while the rest of you demonstrated a basic level of common sense, but Mondale promised me more grants, fewer loans. What can I say, I voted for change... in my pocket. Posted by: BurtTC at August 15, 2012 05:28 PM (2pG7H) Well, at least you're honest. *cue Mom voice* Did you learn your lesson young man?

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC at August 15, 2012 01:36 PM (ergax)

97 holy eff, Truman! well good luck! icky

Posted by: BlackOrchidMissesDagny at August 15, 2012 01:36 PM (J6kXj)

98 91 OT: I'm actually posting to you in the middle of a surgical procedure! They have my face opened up right now, and they are removing an aggressive infection I got sometime yesterday.

I am soooo hopped up on goofballs atm

Posted by: Truman North, iPhone ninny at August 15, 2012 05:34 PM (clOq9

Ummm......

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 15, 2012 01:36 PM (UOM48)

99 @73

Al don't know shit.

My neighbor got the P90X system and completely chiseled his body in 3 months

He tried to get me to try the program, I told him I'm completely cool with being a dumpy fat body. You rock though.

Posted by: General Woundwort at August 15, 2012 01:36 PM (06lNq)

100 Don't worry hipsters, pothead musicians, and the faux writer coffee shop crowd are too lazy to vote.

Posted by: BlueFalcon in Boston at August 15, 2012 01:36 PM (KCvsd)

101

obam ideas- first generation to not succeed more than parents in decades.

more govt control over everything you attempt to do.

Posted by: willow at August 15, 2012 01:37 PM (TomZ9)

102 Dude, It's Zogby.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 15, 2012 01:38 PM (0F/wr)

103

Yield is such a pro-active term for "cower" isn't it?

Yup. I mean, PR's an OK-looking guy, as far as guys go, I guess.

But, dayum, the 'ettes luvs them some PR. I'm talking "name their sex toys after him" luv. I'm impressed.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at August 15, 2012 01:39 PM (d0Tfm)

104 ONE TERM WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORE!!!!!!

Posted by: The Mega Independent at August 15, 2012 01:39 PM (fWqsc)

105 If we could get a really good, new xbox game released the day before the election, that would help.

Posted by: teh Wind at August 15, 2012 01:39 PM (HBU8E)

106 >>>I love my kid.

Wow. That's some commitment to freedom, remaining politically active while serving.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Regular With Full Stomping Power! at August 15, 2012 01:39 PM (0q2P7)

107 Posted by: Dave in Fla

Hey moron, you run today?

Posted by: Dang at August 15, 2012 01:39 PM (Ky1+e)

108 Let's vote for the math dude and rich guy. We made history with the black guy and he sucks green donkey dicks. Pass the bong man.

Posted by: Choomers for the White Guys at August 15, 2012 01:39 PM (1qHOu)

109 99 91 OT: I'm actually posting to you in the middle of a surgical procedure! They have my face opened up right now, and they are removing an aggressive infection I got sometime yesterday. I am soooo hopped up on goofballs atm Posted by: Truman North, iPhone ninny at August 15, 2012 05:34 PM (clOq9 Ummm...... Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 15, 2012 05:36 PM (UOM4

************* Wait... Truman are you sure it's your mouth? I thought you had kidney stones?

Posted by: tasker at August 15, 2012 01:39 PM (r2PLg)

110 Floyd Corkins? No wonder he's pissed off.

Posted by: soothsayer, now with extra hissing at August 15, 2012 01:40 PM (9Q7Nu)

111 lesson learned. Guess we'll all see about that.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC at August 15, 2012 01:40 PM (ergax)

112 I'll be fine. It's just one of those weird things that some guy your brother in law knows had it happen to Hm once... Only, it's me in this instance. I'll be fine.

Posted by: Truman North, iPhone ninny at August 15, 2012 01:40 PM (clOq9)

113 I would love to believe it. It might even be true.

But dude....it's Zogby.

Posted by: Jeff B. at August 15, 2012 01:40 PM (/COnL)

114 Ok doc back gtg

Posted by: Truman North, iPhone ninny at August 15, 2012 01:40 PM (clOq9)

115 Meghan McCain calling Joe Biden an "idiot" is like.............

Posted by: Craig Poe at August 15, 2012 01:40 PM (BVkEs)

116 Does Floyd have a facetweet page, or has everything been scrubbed?

Posted by: soothsayer, now with extra hissing at August 15, 2012 01:40 PM (9Q7Nu)

117 Is today troll day off?

If you're good I'll throw a little classic Cloggenstein at ya later on.

Posted by: Cicero at August 15, 2012 01:41 PM (QKKT0)

118

"50 Its sad to me that in this economy with young people at nearly 30% unemployment, 41% is good news for Republicans. I mean I know that young people lean left and are basically idiots but seriously? This president is turking you with a barbed cactus in the job market. You want more of that?"

Is it really good news? They voted for because he was "cool", and they still think he is. Maybe he can be exposed, finally, as the big, fat, liar that he is, and then as the big, fat, card-carrying socialist that he is, but I'm not holding my breath.

Everybody talks about how Obama can't get re-elected because of the economy, but the people who are being hurt the most will vote for him anyway! Besides the youth, saying he's "cool", you have the blacks - who spend their lives complaining about being judged by the color of their skin - literally supporting Obama because of the color of his skin.

They supported him with a higher percent than Saddam Hussein used to get, even though not voting for Saddam could bring bad guys to your house to beat you up, rape your female family members, and maybe take you away to never be seen again. Obama did not grow up in a black neighborhood, is half white, his African ancestry is from an entirely different part of Africa than virtually all American blacks, and he has no slave heritage. In short, all he has in common with American blacks is having a some darker complexion than white folks in other words, "the color of his skin". They've spent their whole lives being programmed with the idea that their misfortunes are because "whitey" doesn't give them a fair chance.

Posted by: Optimizer at August 15, 2012 01:41 PM (As94z)

119 uh... wtf Truman?

Posted by: jewells45 is scarred for life because of ace at August 15, 2012 01:41 PM (UljOc)

120 8 Ryan, Romney, 'Rithmetic. ... Posted by: General Zod at August 15, 2012 05:19 PM (2+bRt) Awesome. We all need to make this a meme, bumper sticker, email signature, etc. BTW, great handle too.

Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at August 15, 2012 01:41 PM (jts1f)

121 OT: I'm actually posting to you in the middle of a surgical procedure!...
I am soooo hopped up on goofballs atm Posted by: Truman North, iPhone ninny

You know about those "red flags" people talk about? How to tell when you've got a problem?

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Regular With Full Stomping Power! at August 15, 2012 01:41 PM (0q2P7)

122

Folks we have first row seats to a preference cascade.

Posted by: SH at August 15, 2012 01:41 PM (gmeXX)

123 Missing the point -- this 41% is actually going to vote.

Posted by: SFGoth at August 15, 2012 01:41 PM (dZ756)

124 Shit TruNor. Hope everything comes out well.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at August 15, 2012 01:41 PM (d0Tfm)

125 Obama gets 49% head-to-head with Romney. Add Johnson and he gets 50%. You realize that makes absoutely no sense, right?

Posted by: Chester White at August 15, 2012 01:41 PM (dLF+N)

126

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at August 15, 2012 05:39 PM (d0Tfm)

___

Thanks for the idea, from now on I refer to my boyfriend as "Paul".

Posted by: kallisto at August 15, 2012 01:42 PM (jm/9g)

127 Floyd Corkins is obviously no stranger to fast food.

http://tinyurl.com/9snjrwv

Posted by: Cicero at August 15, 2012 01:42 PM (QKKT0)

128 Look I tried up thread. Don't touch the ZOGBY!!!

Posted by: tasker at August 15, 2012 01:42 PM (r2PLg)

129 "Is that a man in there, or somethin'?"

Posted by: Truman North's doctor at August 15, 2012 01:42 PM (Ky1+e)

130

"96 All those smarmy college kids who voted for hope and change in 2008 are now going to vote for jobs."

LOL yeah they love work.

Its too late we're already in the death-spiral of thieving from each other. Those college kids are even more desperate for their "fair share".

Posted by: Bitchka at August 15, 2012 01:42 PM (5TXNQ)

131 what do we know about this Floyd Porkins? homo?

Posted by: soothsayer, now with extra hissing at August 15, 2012 01:43 PM (9Q7Nu)

132 lemme guess, a homo and an atheist? and why no middle name?

Posted by: soothsayer, now with extra hissing at August 15, 2012 01:43 PM (9Q7Nu)

133 91 OT: I'm actually posting to you in the middle of a surgical procedure! They have my face opened up right now, and they are removing an aggressive infection I got sometime yesterday.

I am soooo hopped up on goofballs atm

Posted by: Truman North, iPhone ninny at August 15, 2012 05:34 PM (clOq9)

You're holding your dirty iphone over an open incision?!

Posted by: Tami at August 15, 2012 01:43 PM (X6akg)

134 "they knew nothing about nothing."
They don't tend to vote, either.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 15, 2012 01:44 PM (r4wIV)

135 What the hell kind of young voter has a landline on which to receive a pollster's call?

Posted by: R.D Walker at August 15, 2012 01:44 PM (ImpgP)

136 If this came from ANY other pollster, I'd be elated. But Zogby has a mountain to climb before I take him seriously.

Posted by: CAC at August 15, 2012 01:44 PM (CLjds)

137 There's a Floyd Corkins who's a member of the Tea Party in Bumfuck Iowa. Not sure if they're connected yet...

Posted by: Brian Ross at August 15, 2012 01:45 PM (QKKT0)

138 Zogby Deschanel is hot

Posted by: Dr. Varno at August 15, 2012 01:45 PM (csnUu)

139 My stepdaughter is stopping by tonight to pick up some things. Will engage her in a light round of political talk to see where her Obama-lovin' mind of 2008 is now. I intend to ask her how satisfied she is with having voted into office someone with a Third World worldview: payoffs to cronies out of the public treasury; high unemployment with which he is perfectly satisfied; and rampant lawlessness on the part of him and his appointees. Not attempting to change her uniformed mind, but rather to make her discouraged about voting altogether. For the good of our country...

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at August 15, 2012 01:45 PM (UyYYt)

140 Its too late we're already in the death-spiral of thieving from each other. Those college kids are even more desperate for their "fair share". Posted by: Bitchka at August 15, 2012 05:42 PM (5TXNQ) =========== It's those flash mobs (that no one in the LSM wants to talk about) that are scaring me. Waves of loser kids storming stores and stealing. Insane.

Posted by: female fairy dust voter at August 15, 2012 01:46 PM (HOOye)

141 "what do we know about this Floyd Porkins?"

Well, David Gilmour plays the guitar...

Posted by: Dang at August 15, 2012 01:46 PM (Ky1+e)

142 Why is it that the youth want to continue and expand social progroms like social security and medicare, but old geezers like me on the verge of qualifying for free shit want them killed?

Posted by: SpongeBob Saget at August 15, 2012 01:46 PM (SDkq3)

143 When I hear Michelle Obama henpeck a 16yr old gold medal-winning Olympian for eating an egg mcmuffin, I can't understand why the Youth demographic would listen to anything the Obama Administration, (or an unpaid*, underprivileged "slave" of the Obama Administration), would have to say.

*And on that note, you'd think Barry would treat his wife with a little more dignity and respect, (instead of whining about the horrible "sacrifices" he is forced to impose upon his wife, on behalf of the country).

Posted by: Fritz at August 15, 2012 01:46 PM (RuVpG)

144 I can haz preference cascades?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 15, 2012 01:47 PM (wmk8Q)

145 you mean Gary Gilmore? he's dead

Posted by: soothsayer, now with extra hissing at August 15, 2012 01:47 PM (9Q7Nu)

146 I think the minimum voting age should be raised to 26 -- according to Obamacare, that's the age where one becomes a responsible adult.

Posted by: Uncledave at August 15, 2012 01:47 PM (SxEV4)

147

But Zogby has a mountain to climb before I take him seriously.

Same here. I'm wondering if he's maybe seen some internals that would make him catch the Preference Cascade Tsunami?

It just seems to me that all the pollsters are taking great pains to break it to the public as easily as possible that teh SCOAMF is gonna lose big.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at August 15, 2012 01:47 PM (d0Tfm)

148 And John Waters played bass, right?

Posted by: Dr. Varno at August 15, 2012 01:47 PM (csnUu)

149 @Chris_Moody Paul Ryan expected to address Medicare at rally in Ohio tonight http://yhoo.it/Ox3Ayf

Posted by: Miss80sBaby at August 15, 2012 01:48 PM (YjDyJ)

150 "you mean Gary Gilmore?"

"Let's do thi

Posted by: Dang at August 15, 2012 01:48 PM (Ky1+e)

151 A Janet Napolitano Sex Scandal. Just what everyone wanted to see, right?

Posted by: Craig Poe at August 15, 2012 01:48 PM (BVkEs)

152 143 "what do we know about this Floyd Porkins?"

Well, David Gilmour plays the guitar...

Posted by: Dang at August 15, 2012 05:46 PM (Ky1+e)

And we know that Gilmour is the #83rd best guitar player ever, while Jack White and Kurt Cobain are both in the top 20.

Posted by: Rolling Stone asshat editors at August 15, 2012 01:48 PM (/YJYi)

153 My niece isn't voting for him again either. Little anecdotes like this give me hope. She's pretty disgusted with him.

Posted by: jewells45 is scarred for life because of ace at August 15, 2012 01:49 PM (UljOc)

154 "And John Waters played bass, right?"
By the way, which one's pink?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 15, 2012 01:49 PM (r4wIV)

155 is that where Pink Floyd comes from?

Posted by: soothsayer, now with extra hissing at August 15, 2012 01:49 PM (9Q7Nu)

156 Tami Ewwww!!!

Posted by: phoenixgirl, team dagny at August 15, 2012 01:50 PM (feMGA)

157

"141My stepdaughter is stopping by tonight to pick up some things. Will engage her in a light round of political talk to see where her Obama-lovin' mind of 2008 is now. ..."

You could ask her why Obama was "relived" when the Muslim Brotherhood won the election in Egypt. 'Cause that one has me scratching my head.

On a side note, I'm delighted to learn that my dead ancestors in PA will apparently NOT be voting for Obama this time around!

Posted by: Optimizer at August 15, 2012 01:50 PM (As94z)

158 148 I think the minimum voting age should be raised to 26 -- according to Obamacare, that's the age where one becomes a responsible adult.

Posted by: Uncledave at August 15, 2012 05:47 PM (SxEV4)

with exception of military, as i believe they have taken on adulthood and ALL responsibilty .

Posted by: willow at August 15, 2012 01:50 PM (TomZ9)

159 And on that note, you'd think Barry would treat his wife with a little more dignity and respect, (instead of whining about the horrible "sacrifices" he is forced to impose upon his wife, on behalf of the country). You'd think he'd show us a little respect after imposing his wife on the country.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 15, 2012 01:50 PM (ZKAOP)

160 They's a nooo post

Posted by: Cicero at August 15, 2012 01:51 PM (QKKT0)

161 Floyd Porkins

Wish You Were Queer?

Posted by: Dang at August 15, 2012 01:51 PM (Ky1+e)

162 On those trashing Zogby-

Well, please, don't let me stop you. That said, though, he tends to have a heavy Dem bias, yes? Or is he just all over the map?

Because if it's the latter, then he should be ignored. But if it's the former... I may need to buy more pudding.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at August 15, 2012 01:51 PM (8y9MW)

163 " It's those flash mobs (that no one in the LSM wants to talk about) that are scaring me. "
Wait for November. There are two scenarios:
Obama wins, and the entire country erupts in "Detroit sport success" celebrations of burning and looting and 'flash' mobs.
Obama loses, and the entire country erupts in protests of burning and looting because the white man robbed him of his presidency with voter suppression and DIEBOLD!1!!!!!!1!

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 15, 2012 01:52 PM (r4wIV)

164 The reason the youth vote is unfavorable is due to the fact that smaller percentages of young people are white. This is why the Republican Party is in serious danger of being marginalized completely by the 2030s. I wish we would spend more time discussing this serious, long term issue rather than this or that poll of the day.

Posted by: CJK at August 15, 2012 01:52 PM (XGZYX)

165 Now the rumor is out on bases that Obama wants to suppress their votes.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 15, 2012 05:32 PM (UOM4

===============

we have to go through a complicated registration process...and basically show photo id (name, rank, serial number, orders, passport number, etc)

but that's a-ok. the thought here is that it's too important to risk not voting

Posted by: eurw at August 15, 2012 01:54 PM (UDtGT)

166

I think the minimum voting age should be raised to 26

I probably mentioned this before, but it bears repeating.

About 10 years ago, I dated a cute little blonde who was working on her advanced degree in psychology. She noted that her instructor said the age where one reaches emotional maturity was 26.

And rising.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at August 15, 2012 01:54 PM (d0Tfm)

167

168

unless in uniform, please

Posted by: eurw at August 15, 2012 01:58 PM (UDtGT)

168 158 Tami

Ewwww!!!

Posted by: phoenixgirl, team dagny at August 15, 2012 05:50 PM (feMGA)

Wanna bet he's taken that thing into the bathroom with him?

Posted by: Tami at August 15, 2012 02:00 PM (X6akg)

169 On FB, one of my son's female friends, probably 19, posted a 5-point screed about the awful things Ryan has done to wimmins. For those still in the college bubble, it's all the social stuff. Math doesn't matter when you're still on the parental dole.

Posted by: jake an at August 15, 2012 02:01 PM (livu/)

170 Obama / Biden 2012: because somewhere out there, someone has more stuff than you - and that's just not fair! That's all he's got, folks. But it's like crack cocaine to the Participation Award Generation.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at August 15, 2012 02:02 PM (ZZPs4)

171 Frickin iPhone. jakeman not jake an

Posted by: jakeman at August 15, 2012 02:03 PM (livu/)

172 Floyd Corkins? I think not. Corky Flodins sounds MUCH better and it way more mockable.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at August 15, 2012 02:10 PM (5TFvk)

173

Someone should ask Bill Maher if black people don't have ID because they're poor and take the bus, how do they buy their Mad Dog 20/20 and Kools?Posted by: nickless

More contrived rhetoric from liberals. Just like the "war on women". The liberals MO is to infantalize groups such as minorities and women and accuse Republicans of waging war on these babies if they are not taken care of by big, benevolent government. That people fall for this is tragic.

Posted by: Cheri at August 15, 2012 02:15 PM (G+Wff)

174

In that picture of Floyd, for the love of God can't someone pull up his shorts. No one needs to see that.

Posted by: Cheri at August 15, 2012 02:23 PM (G+Wff)

175 More contrived rhetoric from liberals. Posted by: Cheri at August 15, 2012 06:15 PM (G+Wff) I wouldn't say they contrive rhetoric so much as they're pathological liars, out of necessity. What they want never works and always results in horror, but they still want it, so they have to construct a fantasy world that excuses them. That they conducted their "Long March Through The Institutions" almost unexposed is tragic.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at August 15, 2012 02:23 PM (bxiXv)

176

*And on that note, you'd think Barry would treat his wife with a little more dignity and respect, (instead of whining about the horrible "sacrifices" he is forced to impose upon his wife, on behalf of the country).
____________________________________

Yeah, the sacrifices Moochelle has to make are just terrible - which is why we shouldn't complain when she gets a little R & R in Spain with 500 of her closest friends and associates.

Posted by: Donna V. at August 15, 2012 02:25 PM (EflcN)

177 The liberals MO is to infantalize groups such as minorities andwomen and accuse Republicans of waging war on these babies if they are not taken care of by big, benevolent government. That people fall for this is tragic.

Posted by: Cheri at August 15, 2012 06:15 PM (G+Wff)

___________________________________

It's evil. Infantalizing people and making sure they remain poor and dependent while pretending to care about them - you know, I used to think libs were just kind-hearted, but wooly-headed people who meant well. That might be true of some a few average libs, but people like Maher and other wealthy MSM stooges and Dem pols - no, they're not that naive. They are evil.

Posted by: Donna V. at August 15, 2012 02:31 PM (EflcN)

178 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: steevy at August 15, 2012 02:40 PM (6o4Fb)

179 Al Sharpton actually is trying to useRyan's fitness against him. He featured the guns pic you made famous on his "gotcha" segment, implying that Ryan spends so much time working out he couldn't possibly have focussed on the budget.

Posted by: kallisto at August 15, 2012 05:31 PM (jm/9g)

__________________________________________

I'm sure Obama spends all of his time on the golf course thinking about how he can best serve the American public and not about how to avoid the upcoming sand trap. It's clear Al doesn't waste a lot of time exercising, unless it involves flapping his gums.

Posted by: Donna V. at August 15, 2012 02:43 PM (EflcN)

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