September 20, 2013


— Ace

Via @benk84's news dump: 18 shot in Chicago in a 4 hour period. This number includes a mass shooting in which 13 were shot, including a 3 year old baby.

It's very strange that the media just completely ignores a mass shooting event. (Caveat/Correction: gp says I'm just wrong about this-- that the media didn't "completely ignore" it, and didn't even mostly ignore it. I will provisionally take his word for that (while still doubting that the media give it Newton-style play or Navy Yard style play). But even if I'm wrong in the premise -- this would merely be the latest of a hundred deadly days in Chicago. If this one got coverage -- okay. But there were 99 before this one.)


I can only assume the perpetrator and the victims were both black. Because the media simply will not report on crime committed by blacks, or even committed against blacks (unless the perpetrator is white or at least a "White Hispanic").

This is a very weird effect of PC -- for years they embargoed stories about blacks committing crimes, ostensibly because Media You Guys helped perpetrate negative attitudes about blacks.

But it also has this bizarre side-effect: You have a bunch of victims here, who, were they white (or of differing races) would be America's Top Story. But because they're black, the media just shrugs and says "Meh."

So a rule imposed ostensibly to "help" blacks winds up also imposing a code of silence about blacks being victimized by crime and tragedy.

This is really the only thing I've learned in closing in on ten years of public writing: You can't outfox the truth.

By which I mean, the Truth is always the best policy. Always. When you get cute and decide some Truths shouldn't be reported, ostensibly for the Greater Good, you will soon find that you're actually advancing the Greater Evil.

I have to think right now that blacks might well be wondering why a mass-shooting in which most victims are black fails to generate the slightest blip on the national media radar.

Doesn't the media even care? I have to think some blacks are wondering.

And the actual answer, I think, is this: Yes, they do care. In fact so much they're willing to suppress the news of all tragedies that befall you. Because they think that is what is best for you.

So complete media silence on a tragedy due to a policy designed, condescendingly, to "help" blacks.

Has it helped them? Who knows. I don't. Perhaps it has. But it does result in a complete embargo of most crime occurring in inner-city mostly-black communities.

Perhaps the media is upset because people outside inner-city mostly-black communities don't seem to care. How could they care? The media has redacted all of this from the public record. How do they even know about it? The media's own policy is designed to ensure they don't know about it in the first place.

But when you deviate from the path of the truth, you travel with lies. And lies will lead to all sorts of bizarre outcomes, like a media which is suffused with White Liberal Guilt deciding that a bunch of black people shot in a mass shooting in Chicago is No Big Whoop.

I'm always amused by liberal critics who make fun of the media for only reporting crime involving or affecting whites. White blonde girl is kidnapped?, they giggle. Wow! That sounds like 24/7 coverage to me!

Well, first of all, let's point out that the kidnapping of a child is a major crime which naturally interests (outrages) people. It's a bit bizarre to suggest that such a thing is unworthy of coverage at all.

But second of all, let's do note that the reason for this strange outcome is that the media is dutifully obeying the rules laid down by the liberal critics themselves: Crime does not exist except if it involves white people, preferably on the "perpetrator" side of the ledger. And a kidnapping of a white girl will usually involve a white perp, so it's likely to turn out to be a "safe" story.

Hell, Michael Moore's big thesis in Bowling for Columbine was that America (high rate of gun ownership, high rate of crime) differed from Canada (high rate of gun ownership, low rate of crime) only because of the "fear" created by media reporting on crime.

It's a silly supposition, but the left is smitten with silliness. The sillier the notion, the more the left will be smitten with it. The left demonstrates its enlightenment by claiming to believe things that only a fool could believe.

And so here then is the result of trying to be cute with the truth, of trying to outfox the truth: 13 people, largely (or entirely) black, were shot in Chicago, and the media which loves stories about mass shootings has absolutely nothing to say on behalf of the victims.

My prescription for the media is the same I'd give to the government: Why don't you start treating people like adults deserving of respect and deserving of the truth, rather than misguided children who have to be forever insulated from it?


The Missing:

For years, I've followed missing persons cases on websites devoted to them and in government and other databases. There, you'll encounter an appalling paucity of information about missing/unidentified 'persons of color,' especially when the information is from older police reports and coroners reports. The disparity was so egregious, some people decided to put together the Black and Missing website. Good for them.

From Dan Collins.

Posted by: Ace at 08:52 AM | Comments (331)
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1 Liberals "really" care about black people.  (Around voting time)

Posted by: rd at September 20, 2013 08:54 AM (D+lxs)

2

Facts be damned.  Only an unarmed populace will suffice for the Left.

Posted by: garrett at September 20, 2013 08:54 AM (L4p+9)

3 Chicago is a gun free paradise.  There is no crime in Chicago.

Posted by: rd at September 20, 2013 08:55 AM (D+lxs)

4

The media is liberal and liberals are racists. They don't give a fuck and anyway, it detracts from the narrative.

Anyway:

http://tinyurl.com/kfhgju3

Posted by: maddogg at September 20, 2013 08:55 AM (xWW96)

5 If I had a son, he'd look like a Chicago gangsta thug shooting up all the homies in the hood.

Posted by: Barky O'Genius at September 20, 2013 08:55 AM (8ZskC)

6 They were just gang-bangers - even the three-year old.

Posted by: kathysaysso at September 20, 2013 08:55 AM (6H6o8)

7 Yeah, I have long said, "Forget the people being gassed in Syira, what about the kids dying every damn day in Chicago, Barky's political hometown?"

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes at September 20, 2013 08:55 AM (kXoT0)

8 3yo baby? man, Obamacare has raised the age limits on everything!

Posted by: Underground Vulgarian at September 20, 2013 08:55 AM (qNgRM)

9 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at September 20, 2013 08:56 AM (/PCJa)

10 Chicago is a gun free paradise. There is no crime in Chicago.

***

And Eurasia has always been at war with Eastasia.

Posted by: cool arrow at September 20, 2013 08:56 AM (WMsq+)

11 Burn it down. Scatter the stones. Salt the earth where it stood.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at September 20, 2013 08:56 AM (/PCJa)

12 This is especially germane when referencing Chicago.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at September 20, 2013 08:56 AM (/PCJa)

13 If Bush had been a Chicago politician, every gun death in the city would be laid at his feet, Barky, crickets chirp while the blood flows and the babies and kids die.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes at September 20, 2013 08:56 AM (kXoT0)

14 Hmm. Looks like a  non-story to me. 

Now where'd my bitch go?

Posted by: Al Sharpton at September 20, 2013 08:56 AM (8ZskC)

15 More American exceptionalism.

Posted by: Poots at September 20, 2013 08:58 AM (1/RiT)

16 It's a silly supposition, but the left is smitten with silliness. The sillier the notion, the more the left will be smitten with it. The left demonstrates its enlightenment by claiming to believe things that only a fool could believe.


It's called nuance, wingnut.  And you don't have any of it.

Posted by: The Left at September 20, 2013 08:58 AM (8ZskC)

17 local story

Posted by: Red Shirt at September 20, 2013 08:58 AM (FIDMq)

18 This "news" story is meaningless. there was no AR-15 shotgun involved. Doesn't advance the narrative.

Posted by: mike lupica at September 20, 2013 08:58 AM (UpdGw)

19 By the way, Chicago has wrested the sobriquet of "Murder City" from NYC and New Orleans.  They lead the nation in murders and no one in the media cares one bit.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes at September 20, 2013 08:59 AM (kXoT0)

20 My prescription for the media is the same I'd give to the government: Why don't you start treating people like adults deserving of respect and deserving of the truth, rather than misguided children who have to be forever insulated from it?


This was a joke, right?

Posted by: The MSM, Now With 20% More Truthiness at September 20, 2013 08:59 AM (8ZskC)

21 Good post, ace.

Posted by: Y-not at September 20, 2013 09:00 AM (5H6zj)

22 Chicago has wrested the sobriquet of "Murder City" from NYC and New Orleans. They lead the nation in murders and no one in the media cares one bit.

***

They're not murder-murders.

Posted by: W. Goldberg at September 20, 2013 09:00 AM (WMsq+)

23 You know, Teat Partiers often wear dreadlocks so they can identify themselves at   cross burning parties.

Posted by: garrett at September 20, 2013 09:00 AM (L4p+9)

24 The left all look like imbeciles because they cannot actually voice what they really think or want to do. So their arguments make little sense in the context of their stated goals. If you substitute their logical goals, it would make perfect sense. It would also get them run out of power for 50 years.

Posted by: maddogg at September 20, 2013 09:00 AM (xWW96)

25 I mentioned it in another thread but this happened at 10:15 pm. It was a school night. But all these young people including a 3 year old are out in this gang infested park. I bet no body saw anything either.

Posted by: Jesse Pinkman at September 20, 2013 09:00 AM (T0Pku)

26 Damn, my Brian Ross sock fell off.

Posted by: garrett at September 20, 2013 09:00 AM (L4p+9)

27 Excellent points indeed. Of course, it is now proof of racism that those of us on the Right keep asking why nothing gets reported about all the deaths in Chicago because the Right doesn't actually care about those deaths it's only because guns guns guns you racisty racist. Well, hey, guess what? Here's another example of Truth. The gun grabbers posit that severe gun restrictions will result in no violent crime. Here you have a city with severe gun restrictions. What happened? Murder city, baby! Isn't that piece of information a wee tad relevant to this discussion? Feh. A pox on them all.

Posted by: alexthechick - Team Oh Fuck All This Shit at September 20, 2013 09:00 AM (VtjlW)

28 Teat Partiers often wear dreadlocks so they can identify themselves at cross burning parties.

***

Now the Teat Party is a party I can fully support.

Posted by: cool arrow at September 20, 2013 09:01 AM (WMsq+)

29 Oh, and the powers that be said everyone is going to be fine and that shooting are down from last year. So, no big deal...

Posted by: Jesse Pinkman at September 20, 2013 09:01 AM (T0Pku)

30 My prescription for the media is the same I'd give to the government: Why don't you start treating people like adults deserving of respect and deserving of the truth, rather than misguided children who have to be forever insulated from it? Because then they wouldn't be in power.

Posted by: t-bird at September 20, 2013 09:02 AM (FcR7P)

31 Christina Hendricks for President!

Teat Party '16!

Posted by: cool arrow at September 20, 2013 09:02 AM (WMsq+)

32 Oh, and our famous, Moochillini, Saint of the Toned Arms, she is a product of the South Side of Chicago.  An area now so dangerous that it is worth your life to get off the wrong stop on the El.

I personally know people who drive into Chicago to jobs at the hospitals at the University of Chicago rather than take the South Shore train and get off at the stop for UofC and then walk the few blocks to work.  Why, because they are White and do not want to die.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes at September 20, 2013 09:02 AM (kXoT0)

33

Whenever I bring up stories like this to my black co-workers [and I include the Gosnell case] they always reply "but the victims were black, so who gives a f**k"

 

Thats the result of media embargo on black crime stories.

Posted by: Bigby's Trigger Finger at September 20, 2013 09:02 AM (3ZtZW)

34 I think there are lots of reasons the Media won't report this. One, as you mention, is the desire to hide crime committed by blacks (including black-on-black crime). Another is the desire to push gun control. If Dallas, TX had a mass shooting like this- even with Black-on-Black violence, the MFM (delenda est) would run with it. Why? Because they could blame "Law Enforcement" (by which they would mean "Whitey" even though I think a majority of the high officers in DPD are Black or Hispanic), AND they could blame "a culture of guns." Chicago, though, is too full of landmines. Perhaps uniquely in the United States, crime in Chicago won't be reported nationally- no matter what it is. A very high population of Blacks, Dem controlled government for as long as anyone can remember, and Gun Control so strict it has been deemed unconstitutional both by SCOTUS and the ILSC all combine to make any crime story in Chicago "counter to the narrative," and therefore embargoed.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at September 20, 2013 09:03 AM (/PCJa)

35
The bro's be usin' AR-15's and Glock's.  That's retarded sir. 

Posted by: Rachel Jeantel at September 20, 2013 09:03 AM (pJF+c)

36 Blacks are expected to take care of their own communities. No honkies wanted. Separatism, afro-centrism and all that. How's that working out?

Posted by: Emily at September 20, 2013 09:03 AM (7Rn+/)

37 News reports in Chicago say the shooting was done by "an assault gun". Also detectives say no witnesses will give any descriptions and info to cops. Tiny Dancer had to cut short his East Coast campaigning trip for Booker to come home. What a mess.

Posted by: Buckeye Katie at September 20, 2013 09:04 AM (1M/xn)

38 "Well, hey, guess what? Here's another example of Truth. The gun grabbers posit that severe gun restrictions will result in no violent crime. Here you have a city with severe gun restrictions. What happened? Murder city, baby! Isn't that piece of information a wee tad relevant to this discussion?

Feh. A pox on them all. Posted by: alexthechick - Team Oh Fuck All This Shit at September 20, 2013 01:00 PM"


Chicago would be a gun free paradise if only guns weren't available in the rest of the country to be brought into paradise from the outside!!1!!!!  This is just more proof that we have to ban guns everywhere!!!!1111!!!!!

Posted by: Typical Left Wingnut at September 20, 2013 09:04 AM (knoK7)

39

If you really can get a liberal to talk about why they want gun control, it is because they do not want certain groups of people to have guns.  Certain groups that are politically correct and protected.  So they hide their real motives by demonizing the one group it is still OK to demonize. 

 

Go ahead, get him drunk and then ask a liberal about guns, crime and blacks.  They will admit that keeping them from having guns is a "good thing."  And that stop and frisk in the ghetto is a "good idea."  Along with keeping those people out of their neighborhoods.  Amazing what some of my relatives really think. 

Posted by: rd at September 20, 2013 09:04 AM (D+lxs)

40 For years, I've followed missing persons cases on websites devoted to them and in government and other databases. There, you'll encounter an appalling paucity of information about missing/unidentified 'persons of color,' especially when the information is from older police reports and coroners reports. The disparity was so egregious, some people decided to put together the Black and Missing website. Good for them. Then there's this.

Posted by: Dan Collins at September 20, 2013 09:05 AM (d6r9C)

41 What difference at this point does it make?

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at September 20, 2013 09:05 AM (GjPnA)

42 It was a gangbanger party shot up by other gangbangers. The grandmother of the three year old is quoted in the Sun Times f-bombing the mf poleeces for not solving crime. This is the base of the Democratic Party and the prototype Obama voter. They did not give grandma's age-I would be surprised if she had managed to hit 30.

Posted by: ejo at September 20, 2013 09:05 AM (GXvSO)

Posted by: Bigby's Trigger Finger at September 20, 2013 09:05 AM (3ZtZW)

44 I bet no body saw anything either.

Posted by: Jesse Pinkman at September 20, 2013 01:00 PM (T0Pku)

Ain't nobuddy saw nuttin, ain't never gonna be anybuddy who saw sumpin...in Chicago vernacular.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes at September 20, 2013 09:06 AM (kXoT0)

45 "My prescription for the media is the same I'd give to the government: Why don't you start treating people like adults deserving of respect and deserving of the truth, rather than misguided children who have to be forever insulated from it?"

Aww, isn't that cute?
Who's a cute little blogger?
You are! You are!

Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at September 20, 2013 09:06 AM (pgQxn)

46 Chicago would be a gun free paradise if only guns weren't available in the rest of the country to be brought into paradise from the outside!!1!!!! This is just more proof that we have to ban guns everywhere!!!!1111!!!!! Posted by: Typical Left Wingnut at September 20, 2013 01:04 PM (knoK7) And thus is summed up the entire argument of the Halfling Warrior's group.

Posted by: alexthechick - Team Oh Fuck All This Shit at September 20, 2013 09:06 AM (VtjlW)

47

New York police call Chicago shooting a 'snapshot of NYC's future'

Posted by: Jones in CO at September 20, 2013 09:06 AM (8sCoq)

48 Ace: "Why don't you start treating people like adults deserving of respect and deserving of the truth, rather than misguided children who have to be forever insulated from it?"

Or punished for revealing the truth the government doesn't want revealed.  Benghazi, for instance, or Hillary's goons seizing private-property phones and deleting Hillary unapproved images from the same.

Posted by: mrp at September 20, 2013 09:07 AM (HjPtV)

49 31Christina Hendricks for President!

Teat Party '16!

Posted by: cool arrow at September 20, 2013 01:02 PM (WMsq+)

 

 

 

I could soooo get behind/infront or underneath a Christina Hendricks/Sofia Vergara ticket!

 

 Hendricks/Vergara 2016

Posted by: wrg500 at September 20, 2013 09:07 AM (jShXB)

50 Last night, Texas executed this gangbanger. He was sentenced to death for the deaths of 4 women. His gang had been hired to take a hit out on one of them who had witnessed a shooting. This guy was a leader, picked out the guys who were to do the job, drove one of the cars to the ambush, got the guns, lay in wait. There was a deluge of thug lovers whining all over the internet. Most of them from overseas. Oh, and he did shoot another 6 people later but they did not prosecute him since he was already facing 4 death sentences. You have to wonder what has happened where a guy who is responsible for 10 murders is seen as a saint.

Posted by: Jesse Pinkman at September 20, 2013 09:07 AM (T0Pku)

51 Non-reporting of black on black mass murder unexpectedly trumps leftist progressivist anti-gun agitprop.


Posted by: NewsAt11 at September 20, 2013 09:07 AM (fGPLK)

52 Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at September 20, 2013 01:03 PM (/PCJa)

Don't fool yourself...NYC has more crime than is reported.

Giuliani's initiative are slowly being gutted, and Bloomberg's minions massage the data.

Ask any New Yorker if the city seems as safe as it did five or 10 years ago.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 20, 2013 09:08 AM (gqgiP)

53 Somewhere on the south side of Chicago, a community is missing its organizer and wishes he'd come home.

Posted by: Fritz at September 20, 2013 09:08 AM (UzPAd)

54 Hendricks/Vergara 2016

Posted by: wrg500 at September 20, 2013 01:07 PM (jShXB)


I volunteer as tribute!



Posted by: EC at September 20, 2013 09:08 AM (GQ8sn)

55 Why is the MSM ignoring this story?

None of the 13 were shot by a White Hispanic Neighborhood Watch volunteer, that's why

Posted by: kbdabear at September 20, 2013 09:08 AM (/9IC1)

56 39 If you really can get a liberal to talk about why they want gun control, it is because they do not want certain groups of people to have guns. Certain groups that are politically correct and protected. So they hide their real motives by demonizing the one group it is still OK to demonize. Go ahead, get him drunk and then ask a liberal about guns, crime and blacks. They will admit that keeping them from having guns is a "good thing." And that stop and frisk in the ghetto is a "good idea." Along with keeping those people out of their neighborhoods. Amazing what some of my relatives really think. Posted by: rd at September 20, 2013 01:04 PM (D+lxs) ***************** Interesting. Commenter Guy Mohawk had a link to an article at The Blaze that-- Don Lemon CNN anchor was having second thoughts about gun control. (I wonder if Ace's post, your comment and that turn around are sort of related....) Here is the conclusion of that article: “And armed with just our cellphones, our fists and our wits, are we setting ourselves up to be sitting ducks, defenseless in the face of a sane, or an insane person, armed to the teeth and bent on killing,” Lemon added.

Posted by: tasker at September 20, 2013 09:08 AM (r2PLg)

57 Ace, I don't understand what you mean: "media just completely ignores," "fails to generate the slightest blip," "absolutely nothing to say." Actually, it was reported all over the place this morning. What do you mean?

Posted by: gp at September 20, 2013 09:08 AM (+Jpqc)

58 "And thus is summed up the entire argument of the Halfling Warrior's group. Posted by: alexthechick - Team Oh Fuck All This Shit at September 20, 2013 01:06 PM"


It actually caused me physical pain to type that, but that's the distilled argument, if you can call it that, of virtually every lib I meet in the glorious People's Democratic Republic.  I need out of this fucking state.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 20, 2013 09:08 AM (knoK7)

59 They don't report black on black crime for exactly the same reason Watermelon drink turned into Iced Tea.
Or, on a more personal level, you don't tell guests to your home your dog shits on the living room rug all the time.

Posted by: Nick Shaw at September 20, 2013 09:09 AM (9Xn+t)

60 Well, the Left is all about power narratives, and they've done quite well stripping the last vestiges of power--self determination and responsibility--from the Black Community. Therefore, they are no longer a concern for the Left or their propaganda ministry in the MSM. They ignore Chicago and other such places, because they know, such places cannot hurt them in their quest for more power.

Posted by: RS at September 20, 2013 09:09 AM (YAGV/)

61 Don't fool yourself...NYC has more crime than is reported. Agreed. But I suspect that (currently, at least) the MFM (delenda est) would at least *report* 18 bodies in 4 hours out of NYC. I could be wrong there- and, if so, they'd embargo for the same reason they're embargoing from Chicago- no way to report the news that doesn't hurt their narrative.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at September 20, 2013 09:09 AM (/PCJa)

62 You have to wonder what has happened where a guy who is responsible for 10 murders is seen as a saint.

Posted by: Jesse Pinkman at September 20, 2013 01:07 PM (T0Pku)

 

Because the death penalty is cruel and barbaric.  Leftards told me so

Posted by: Red Shirt at September 20, 2013 09:09 AM (FIDMq)

63 White liberals in the media are the most racist people on Earth. They look down on the black community like they are children who need to be taken care of. Furthermore, when a crime of this type happens, they basically cover it up, which gives the local government all the cover they need to sweet it under the rug and also gives them a free pass to do nothing to prevent it from happening in the future. This is all to protect the liberal narrative.

Posted by: Dan at September 20, 2013 09:10 AM (m3gf3)

64 If the Chicago shooter(s) were black, that means 2 mass shootings by black people within a week.  A bridge waaaaay too far for the MSM.

Posted by: Mayday at September 20, 2013 09:10 AM (eHc+1)

65 it's almost as if only white males can commit hyeenus gun crimes that get press

Posted by: Jones in CO at September 20, 2013 09:10 AM (8sCoq)

66 there was not enough in this post about the media and the fight we have against them in the gun control debate etc etc

oops, I meant to say syria or something middle class you guys - I AM SYRIA YOU GUYS

Posted by: chelsea danger at September 20, 2013 09:10 AM (KfDDN)

67 It is a form of paternalism by the Left. A very nasty version that is full of condescension, ignorance, arrogance and disdain for blacks as human beings -  one might dare say it was racist.  But those on the Left cannot be racist. Because. 

If it is not reported by the approved news sources, did it occur?

Posted by: Penfold at September 20, 2013 09:10 AM (Fbt5B)

68 You have to be respectful and understanding, obviously, that the one man who can do the most about this type of tragedy is left uninformed because he only knows about these things when he hears about them in the news.

Posted by: fawkes at September 20, 2013 09:10 AM (Djwm9)

69 Last night, Texas executed this gangbanger.

Yeah, here is Oklahoma, we usually execute this kind of scum, but the f@cking gangbanger who murdered my co-worker last July while he shopped a Best Buy with his 10 year old daughter for her birthday present turned himself in to get the death penalty off the table.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes at September 20, 2013 09:10 AM (kXoT0)

70 >>>Ace, I don't understand what you mean: "media just completely ignores," "fails to generate the slightest blip," "absolutely nothing to say." Actually, it was reported all over the place this morning. What do you mean?

I may be wrong, actually.  Was it actually all over the news?  Were there breaking reports and all the banner headlines and such?


Posted by: ace at September 20, 2013 09:10 AM (/IWYB)

71
Why don't you start treating people like adults deserving of respect and deserving of the truth, rather than misguided children who have to be forever insulated from it?







Because shut up.

/MFM

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 20, 2013 09:11 AM (TIIx5)

72 Maybe the shooting occurred in a approved Rahm Emanuel area. That why the mfm meh.

Posted by: YIKES! at September 20, 2013 09:11 AM (mETGQ)

73 other places fighting the welfare state. Interesting article..
http://tinyurl.com/nyczdd8

Posted by: RightOne40 at September 20, 2013 09:11 AM (8QW0x)

74 Swead to God Rahm Emmanuel on my flight from DC to NYC.

Posted by: thunderb at September 20, 2013 09:11 AM (LNdZd)

75 other places fighting the welfare state. Interesting article..
http://tinyurl.com/nyczdd8

Posted by: RightOne40 at September 20, 2013 01:11 PM (8QW0x)




Other countries are waking up to the truth, while we're going to sleep.

Posted by: EC at September 20, 2013 09:12 AM (GQ8sn)

76 70 it was reported somewhat widely, but nowhere near the outragey outrage of most mass shootings. In fact, I don't recall seeing anywhere that labeled it a mass shooting.

Posted by: Bigby's Trigger Finger at September 20, 2013 09:12 AM (3ZtZW)

77 i sense a disturbance in the blogforce


Posted by: Jones in CO at September 20, 2013 09:12 AM (8sCoq)

78 Swead to God Rahm Emmanuel on my flight from DC to NYC. Did you fart in his general direction?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at September 20, 2013 09:12 AM (/PCJa)

79 Swead to God Rahm Emmanuel on my flight from DC to NYC. Posted by: thunderb at September 20, 2013 01:11 PM (LNdZd) Did he have a booster seat?

Posted by: alexthechick - Team Oh Fuck All This Shit at September 20, 2013 09:12 AM (VtjlW)

80 drive by teddy bear drop

Posted by: Aliens who rape at September 20, 2013 09:13 AM (vpa+W)

81 > it was reported somewhat widely, but nowhere near the outragey outrage of most mass shootings. In fact, I don't recall seeing anywhere that labeled it a mass shooting.


see cnn dot com

Posted by: Jones in CO at September 20, 2013 09:13 AM (8sCoq)

82 It was big headlines at Chi Trib and SunTimes. I saw an article at NYT, HuffPo, nbcnews.com, LAT, etc. It's a big headline at cnn.com.

Posted by: gp at September 20, 2013 09:13 AM (+Jpqc)

83 Swead to God Rahm Emmanuel on my flight from DC to NYC. Was he wearing his en pointe shoes?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at September 20, 2013 09:13 AM (/PCJa)

84

Swead to God Rahm Emmanuel on my flight from DC to NYC.
Posted by: thunderb at September 20, 2013 01:11 PM (LNdZd)

 

Tape his middle fingers down so he can't talk.

Posted by: wrg500 at September 20, 2013 09:13 AM (mwctc)

85 Inner city blacks are America's Palestinians. They, along with a compliant and bigoted media, will excuse any amount of crime and murder from them because they are perpetual victims. Like the Palestinians, they are taught this from birth. And like Palestinians, the only people they hate worse than the White Enemy are themselves. And like the Palestinians, things will never change. Not in mine or my great-grandchildren's lifetimes.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at September 20, 2013 09:13 AM (o/tYL)

86 44 I bet no body saw anything either.

Posted by: Jesse Pinkman at September 20, 2013 01:00 PM (T0Pku)
Ain't nobuddy saw nuttin, ain't never gonna be anybuddy who saw sumpin...in Chicago vernacular.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes at September 20, 2013 01:06 PM

Snitches Get Stiches!!

Posted by: Jay-Z at September 20, 2013 09:14 AM (/9IC1)

87 And Tiny Dancer and the idiot police chief will claim that it's all due to guns and only guns and if only they could "get all the guns off the street" none of this would happen

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 20, 2013 09:14 AM (1Jaio)

88 Same thing with Kermit Gosnell. African-American doctor preying on African-American patients and murdering African-American newborns.

Gun control is more important than Chicago's victims.
Abortion is more important than Gosnell's victims.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 20, 2013 09:14 AM (U6BWX)

89 The leftist ruling class media suppresses reports of black criminality because they are trying to make sure the public doesn't believe that blacks commit violent crime at a higher rate than other ethnic groups. The problem is that blacks have higher rates of violent crime. Much higher. But the left has declared that an unthought. In their world only a racist would say "blacks have higher rates of violent crime than whites/asians/hispanics". In their world it's just something only crazy neo-nazi KKK scum would say or think. The problem is it's actually true if you look at any crime stats for the last 100 years.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at September 20, 2013 09:14 AM (ZPrif)

90 Did he have a booster seat?

Posted by: alexthechick - Team Oh Fuck All This Shit at September 20, 2013 01:12 PM (VtjlW)

 

Why? Would you recognize it?  *runs, and plans on running for the rest of the day*

Posted by: Red Shirt at September 20, 2013 09:14 AM (FIDMq)

91
"It was a gangbanger party shot up by other gangbangers. The grandmother of the three year old is quoted in the Sun Times f-bombing the mf poleeces for not solving crime. This is the base of the Democratic Party and the prototype Obama voter."

These are the people who re-elected John Stroger as chairman of the Cook County Board after Stroger had had a massive stroke and was literally brain dead. Politically, Chicago is utterly, completely hopeless.

Posted by: Brown Line at September 20, 2013 09:14 AM (VrNoa)

92
Swead to God Rahm Emmanuel on my flight from DC to NYC.
Posted by: thunderb at September 20, 2013 01:11 PM (LNdZd)


Did he have a booster seat?

Posted by: alexthechick - Team Oh Fuck All This Shit at September 20, 2013 01:12 PM (VtjlW)








Did he have to pay extra for the tutu in his carry-on luggage?

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 20, 2013 09:14 AM (TIIx5)

93 The truth does not increase the opportunities for graft and corruption or power.

The Truth, however, does.

The entire MSNBC broadcast day is devoted to the Truth.

Posted by: RoyalOil at September 20, 2013 09:15 AM (VjL9S)

94

>>>see cnn dot com

 

no wonder i didn't see it hardeharhar

Posted by: Bigby's Trigger Finger at September 20, 2013 09:15 AM (3ZtZW)

95 It is not reported for the same reason those scumbag congressional critters walked out of the Benghazi hearing. They beat us up with all their human interest stories when those stories make the case for their narrative, but anything of human interest that goes against that narrative is to be ignored. Close your eyes, close your ears, walk out, whatever it takes. It has been said elsewhere, but conservatives need to learn to use stories, because they do a far better job of communicating a narrative to the LIV class, than spewing talking points.

Posted by: The littl shyning man at September 20, 2013 09:15 AM (PH+2B)

96 Debbie Asserman (Ed) Shultz was just on msnbc looking ugly as a goddam mud fence and lamenting the "massive amounts of ammo" we're allowed to have and those "semi-automatic assault weapons."

I killed 3 kittens and 5 baby bunnies.

Posted by: tangonine at September 20, 2013 09:15 AM (x3YFz)

97 I don't know how you stop the gun violence in Chicago without shitting all over the 1st 2nd 4th and 5th Amendments

Posted by: Jones in CO at September 20, 2013 09:15 AM (8sCoq)

98 Damn, I was thinking of taking my 3 year old son to a late night inner city basketball pickup game.  Maybe I should rethink that.

Posted by: yinzer at September 20, 2013 09:16 AM (/Mla1)

99 You can't outfox the truth.



HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Whatever, dude.  DonÂ’t make me piss my pants laughing . . . ohhh, too late.   HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA . . . squirt!

Posted by: Barack Obama, Somehow Elected President of the United States Twice at September 20, 2013 09:16 AM (5mRmR)

100 When did the NY Times or any MSM outlet ever report that the NYPD says over 95% of the crime is by Blacks and Hispanics and so stop and frisking those people made sense. 95% fucking percent. No wonder Yankees are afraid of Black people.

Posted by: John Smith at September 20, 2013 09:16 AM (wR+pz)

101 It has been said elsewhere, but conservatives need to learn to use stories, because they do a far better job of communicating a narrative to the LIV class, than spewing talking points.

Posted by: The littl shyning man at September 20, 2013 01:15 PM (PH+2B)


All our stories start with "no shit, there I was...."

Posted by: tangonine at September 20, 2013 09:16 AM (x3YFz)

102 Local crime story!

Posted by: Sarah Kliff at September 20, 2013 09:16 AM (Ph479)

103 How about a Christina Hendricks/Kat Denning ticket?

Posted by: Boobeh Party at September 20, 2013 09:16 AM (/9IC1)

104 81 > it was reported somewhat widely, but nowhere near the outragey outrage of most mass shootings. In fact, I don't recall seeing anywhere that labeled it a mass shooting. see cnn dot com Posted by: Jones in CO at September 20, 2013 01:13 PM (8sCoq) ***************** Well how did they report it at CNN? I really can't watch that often. It is kind of an axiom--a known thing--the media does not report black on black crime with the same enthusiasm. There excuse might be-- "because racism" TM

Posted by: tasker at September 20, 2013 09:17 AM (r2PLg)

105 cleanup on aisle 99.

Posted by: tangonine at September 20, 2013 09:17 AM (x3YFz)

106 The Lame Stream Media have become so unpalatable (like the Doobie Brothers) to me that I turn off the sound when Fox Radio news comes on my local Rush affiliate (News Talk AM 1130, Minneapolis/St. Paul).
(I recognize that I can't prescribe this for the entire country. Maybe Ace could, but I can't.)
People in Chicago, say in the Belmont Harbor neighborhood, may not know the full extent of black-on-black crime, but they do know without watching TV that it's dangerous out there, and that they'd have a hard time carrying something sensible like a Springfield Armory M1911 and several full magazines of 230gr FMJ with a healthy load of powder behind 'em. Legally. To say nothing of anything with its bayonet fixed.
To determine to what extent the media itself is responsible for the current awful condition in the deep blue cities is really moot: they can't fix it even if they told the truth for a change.
"Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men?"

Posted by: Cretin at September 20, 2013 09:17 AM (tfSla)

107 Well, hello there, 5mRmR.

Posted by: The Barrel at September 20, 2013 09:17 AM (YEelc)

108 The MSM ignores this story because they can't use it to advocate for more gun control laws.

Posted by: baldilocks at September 20, 2013 09:17 AM (Tnlh/)

109 "Do you know that Negroes are 10 percent of the population of St. Louis and are responsible for 58% of its crimes? We've got to face that. And we've got to do something about our moral standards," Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. told a congregation in 1961. "We know that there are many things wrong in the white world, but there are many things wrong in the black world, too. We can't keep on blaming the white man. There are things we must do for ourselves." Link: http://tinyurl.com/mvlfkdm

Posted by: RS at September 20, 2013 09:17 AM (YAGV/)

110 Barack Obama, Somehow Elected President of the United States Twice at September 20, 2013 01:16 PM (5mRmR) Barrel you cannot out run.

Posted by: Yoda at September 20, 2013 09:17 AM (mETGQ)

111 Well, they are talking about the notion that a "high   capacity   magazine"  was used in the shooting, so they've identified what they see as the real problem.

Posted by: Meremortal at September 20, 2013 09:17 AM (jTKU5)

112 >Well how did they report it at CNN?

I really can't watch that often.


the website

Posted by: Jones in CO at September 20, 2013 09:18 AM (8sCoq)

113 The Left is committed to the easily disprovable claim that all people everywhere are the same. Blacks and whites, men and women, Americans and Mexicans, Germans and Japanese, Christians and Muslims. They are committed to the false belief that ethnic and racial groups don't exist -- that it's just a coat of paint and some different hair glued on our heads. That men and women are the same except one group has an innie and the other has an outie. They refuse to look at easily measured differences for fear of what they might find.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at September 20, 2013 09:18 AM (ZPrif)

114 Sorry, semi-OT: this is CNN's coverage of the Defund vote in the house: By a 230-189 tally almost strictly on party lines Isn't "almost strictly on party lines" really "Bi-partisan?" I'll also point out CNN's coverage of the shooting in Chicago was heavy on "blame the gun." Oh, if only responsible, law-abiding citizens didn't have access to illegal weapons* and "military-style weapons" this wouldn't have happened. No word on why this would stop someone intent on committing murder. *their words

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at September 20, 2013 09:18 AM (/PCJa)

115 95% fucking percent. No wonder Yankees are afraid of Black people. Posted by: John Smith at September 20, 2013 01:16 PM

That's why I keep a piece in my desk whenever I call Curtis Granderson or Derek Jeter into my office

Posted by: Hank Steinbrenner at September 20, 2013 09:18 AM (/9IC1)

116 The soft bigotry of low expectations.

^Just about the most meaningful thing that ever passed GWB's lips.

Posted by: Jaws at September 20, 2013 09:18 AM (4I3Uo)

117 I may be wrong, actually. Was it actually all over the news? Were there breaking reports and all the banner headlines and such?

Posted by: ace

It's kinda on every news site: nbc, cbs, abc, cnn. Chi-Tribune, LATimes, NYTimes, etc.


Here's a potential hook: "The shooting happened barely three weeks after a deadly Labor Day weekend for Chicago, in which 20 people were injured and eight people were killed — including Deonte's ( the 3-year old's ) uncle, Brooks said."

I don't recall much reporting about the Labor Day murder-rama, but, damn, that's just bad news.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at September 20, 2013 09:18 AM (ligos)

118 So, what was the point of SOA's school shooting story? The guns used are the guns owned by their heroes. I noticed they tried to make the kid shooter into a little jesus freak. The fact that all the adults in the series are disgusting criminals is ignored.

Posted by: Jesse Pinkman at September 20, 2013 09:18 AM (T0Pku)

119

"You can't outfox the truth."

 

Someone else said:  "Be not deceived, God is not mocked.  You will reap what you sow.  If you sow inequity you will reap the whirlwind." 

Posted by: Minuteman at September 20, 2013 09:19 AM (dSE0q)

120 Swead to God Rahm Emmanuel on my flight from DC to NYC.

Posted by: thunderb at September 20, 2013 01:11 PM (LNdZd)


So, is he as funny looking in person as he is on TV or more so?

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes at September 20, 2013 09:19 AM (kXoT0)

121 91-even better was that the black pols (Emil Jones, the guy who told Obama how to vote while in the State Senate) were telling everyone what good shape Stroger was in after the stroke that rendered him a vegetable.

Posted by: ejo at September 20, 2013 09:19 AM (GXvSO)

122 113 >Well how did they report it at CNN? I really can't watch that often. the website Posted by: Jones in CO at September 20, 2013 01:18 PM (8sCoq) ************* I understood you meant the website--was just wondering if you knew how they reported it on the tellie.

Posted by: tasker at September 20, 2013 09:19 AM (r2PLg)

123 Gun control is more important than Chicago's victims.

I would say that the implication here is "avoiding negative conclusions about corrupt democratic governance and a certain black subculture" > the Left's desire to exploit a crisis as a pretext for gun confiscation.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 20, 2013 09:20 AM (8ZskC)

124 105 cleanup on aisle 99.
Posted by: tangonine at September 20, 2013 01:17 PM

Everybody sing along!

Roll Out The Barrel ....

Posted by: Mitch Miller at September 20, 2013 09:20 AM (/9IC1)

125 The only reason they reported more extensively on these Chicago shootings is because they came on the heels of the Navy Yard shooting.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at September 20, 2013 09:20 AM (cDwCa)

126 Didn't they have a whole bunch of people shot and killed around the 4th in Chicago?

Posted by: Jesse Pinkman at September 20, 2013 09:20 AM (T0Pku)

127 If you meant "not reported on TV," I wouldn't know because I don't watch TV, but it was at all the big web media sites that I surf every day. Was it reported the way a 12-victim mass murder is reported? No, because nobody died, I guess.

Posted by: gp at September 20, 2013 09:20 AM (+Jpqc)

128

Doesn't the media even care? I have to think some blacks are wondering.

And the actual answer, I think, is this: Yes, they do care. In fact so much they're willing to suppress the news of all tragedies that befall you. Because they think that is what is best for you.




A few years ago when thugs started attacking people randomly at Oak Street and North Ave. beaches the MFM in Chicago claimed that the beaches were being closed because people were being overwhelmed by the heat. Enough people called local talk radio shows and TV letting them know the truth and to stop lying about it. The MFM in Chicago will not report on this type of crime because it would be racist to do so. In fact, the Tribune and Scum Times close their comment sections on stories like this because any comments are deemed racist

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 20, 2013 09:20 AM (1Jaio)

129 74 Swead to God Rahm Emmanuel on my flight from DC to NYC.

Posted by: thunderb at September 20, 2013 01:11 PM (LNdZd)

Ask the Tiny Dancer when he expects to get back to Chicago.

Posted by: JWF at September 20, 2013 09:21 AM (1l37M)

130 Posted by: Barack Obama, Somehow ... (5mRmR)

Posted by: Sharkman at August 21, 2013 01:51 PM (5mRmR)

Into the barrel, fish.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at September 20, 2013 09:21 AM (ligos)

131 The local media has been all over this, as expected, but it gets little play otherwise. It's common to denigrate the entire city (MURDER CAPITAL!) but the dirty secret is that virtually all of these incidents take place in a relatively small portion of town. I've lived here my entire life (save for a couple of years when I was tiny); I've heard a gunshot once, in 1991. If this were a widespread phenomenon, you bet it would be common. But here I am, living very much in the city my entire life, yet the stories of these crimes feel like they are ported in from a different planet.

Posted by: the wolf at September 20, 2013 09:21 AM (MAp7G)

132 Speaking of leftists believing foolish things, I run into this all the time on the topic of women's MMA.

See, I'm a fan of MMA and this topic comes up a lot on message boards where there's a contingent of True Believers who insist that women can fight as well as men--that the ONLY advantage men have is they tend to be bigger and that a man and woman of equal weight are basically no different in ability.

I always call them out on this, pointing out and linking to all the physiological differences between men and women. The fact is that pound for pound, men are stronger, have thicker skulls, have larger hearts, stronger connective tissue, and are built in such a way as to make them quicker and more explosive.

I also ask these people why female athletes who cheat and use performance enhancing drugs use testosterone boosters rather than estrogen boosters.

I also ask if they're okay with a man hitting a woman providing she's the same weight or heavier.

Finally, I ask them to name one world record a woman holds over a man. Or to name one female playing in any of the major sports.

They can answer none of these questions. They don't even try. They simply call you an ignorant sexist and chalk themselves up a "win."

It's bizarre. It's baffling.

I mean, I get it on some level. Calling someone a sexist in order to avoid facts that upset you is a cheap way to signal to others in your tribe that you're on the "right' intellectual side of things. It allows you to lazily avoid any critical thinking while preserving an unearned feeling of superiority and self righteousness.

But still... to just actively deny what's evident to even a child, to attack the messenger with hateful words, to ignore all clear evidence simply because it's uncomfortable to your worldview ... how weak and emotionally stunted must you be?

They're this way with EVERYTHING.

Posted by: Warden at September 20, 2013 09:22 AM (bmp0d)

133 The two main paths of black politics in America have always been WEB Du Bois vs Booker T. Obama and the Left always choose Du Bois.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at September 20, 2013 09:22 AM (ZPrif)

134 ^Just about the most meaningful thing that ever passed GWB's lips.

Posted by: Jaws at September 20, 2013 01:18 PM (4I3Uo)

That's horseshit.

GWB wasn't the smartest president but his heart was in the right place.  This guy was personally responsible for saving tens if not hundreds of thousands of lives in Africa.

He wept with every soldier, sailor, marine and airman lost.

you debase yourself by belittling him.

Posted by: tangonine at September 20, 2013 09:22 AM (x3YFz)

135 So we gonna have a Ghost Shark in the barrel?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 20, 2013 09:22 AM (pDfBu)

136 sure dog

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at September 20, 2013 09:22 AM (ZPrif)

137

I wouldn't say media silence exactly -- the Tribune web page has it top-center in large print, with several articles.  It's been covered in national news outlets as well.

 

However, you're correct that it's not getting the treatment given to incidents like Aurora, Newtown, Navy Yard, etc.  The media treats gang-related shootings among minorities, even mass ones, as fundamentally different from other shootings.

Posted by: Alex at September 20, 2013 09:22 AM (/yzYn)

138 >I understood you meant the website--was just wondering if you knew how they reported it on the tellie.

Posted by: tasker at September 20, 2013 01:19 PM (r2PLg)


i canceled my TV subscription months ago

Posted by: Jones in CO at September 20, 2013 09:22 AM (8sCoq)

139 Maybe, they are just trying to avoid putting heat on Rahm? Wouldn't the mayor be responsible for the city being a hell hole? Since, he is a donk darling, they just don't report it. Problem solved!

Posted by: Jesse Pinkman at September 20, 2013 09:23 AM (T0Pku)

140 How about a Christina Hendricks/Kat Denning ticket? Posted by: Boobeh Party at September 20, 2013 01:16 PM (/9IC1) I believe the Horde would be willing to ignore that whole natural born citizen thingy for a Christina Hendricks/The Brunette ticket.

Posted by: alexthechick - Team Oh Fuck All This Shit at September 20, 2013 09:23 AM (VtjlW)

141 I remember when some white girl disappeared from a club in Aruba. It sparked my interest, for a number of reasons, mainly because Aruba might be a place I might visit sometime in my life. I've been to a lot of islands in the Caribbean just never made it to Aruba. So I was one of the group of people that was interested in the story. I don't want to patronage an island that doesn't give a damn about tourists. So the story had enduring interest and Aruba became a place I would never visit until the disappearance was resolved. Fast forward to Chicago or any other big city -- Philadelphia is about 20 miles away from me. I know very bad stuff goes on in certain neighborhoods, especially at certain times of the night -- the majority of murders never seem to get resolved. So I stay out of the city unless I absolutely have to. Never at night, unless with another couple. So any shootings in major cities do not interest me at all. I'm not going near them anyway. Blame it on racism, whatever.

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat [/i] at September 20, 2013 09:23 AM (U2UQk)

142 of course if Jones in CO were somehow appointed Chicago's shogun, he would institute a dusk to dawn curfew city-wide, with the usual exceptions (night workers, police, fire, etc); violators would be detained for their safety until noon the following day

Posted by: Jones in CO at September 20, 2013 09:23 AM (8sCoq)

143 Not Rahm.

Posted by: thunderb at September 20, 2013 09:23 AM (LNdZd)

144 133 But,but ,every movie has women kicking multiples mens asses!
LIV

Posted by: steevy at September 20, 2013 09:24 AM (9XBK2)

145 It's always been a known thing however-- black on black crime is not reported by the media as much. Just as Rwanda was not covered.

Posted by: tasker at September 20, 2013 09:24 AM (r2PLg)

146 should have added-- just as Rwanda was not covered--as much.

Posted by: tasker at September 20, 2013 09:24 AM (r2PLg)

147 It isn't genetic, I can tell you that. Popular American black culture drives this shit, and I'm not talking just about the music and movies. Up here, I mostly deal with blacks from Africa or the Carribean. They would smack the dogshit out of their kids for trying to act "gangsta" or talking like a dyslexic retard with a fresh head wound, with their bullshit ebonics gutter-speech. None of them are walking around giving whites and each other sullen glares of hatred, mixed with a challenge and a promise of violence. None of them are concerned with getting their "respect" from total strangers. Which of course, they mean "fear." Fuck all that shit. I'm retired from dealing with the attitude and the crime. I'm out.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at September 20, 2013 09:24 AM (o/tYL)

148 124 Gun control is more important than Chicago's victims.

I would say that the implication here is "avoiding negative conclusions about corrupt democratic governance and a certain black subculture" > the Left's desire to exploit a crisis as a pretext for gun confiscation.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 20, 2013 01:20 PM (8ZskC)


Because all those gangbangers would submit to background checks.

JFC I hate liberals.  Do you have to take a test and fail it to be a democrat?

Posted by: tangonine at September 20, 2013 09:24 AM (x3YFz)

149 I don't know how you stop the gun violence in Chicago without shitting all over the 1st 2nd 4th and 5th Amendments

1.  The only way to "stop violence" is to eliminate all the people, permanently.  Pretty sure you don't want to go there.

2.  There are all manner of things we could do as a society to disincentivize and discourage violence--gun and otherwise.  We seem hell-bent on doing the exact opposite of almost all of them, in every single fucking particular from encouraging stable marriages and profitable, honest businesses, right on down the list.

Posted by: filbert at September 20, 2013 09:24 AM (7vimm)

150 Why don't you start treating people like adults deserving of respect and deserving of the truth, rather than misguided children who have to be forever insulated from it? *********************** The MSM, and the left (but I repeat myself), can't acknowledge that blacks are adults who are just as capable as the rest of us. If they do that, then how can they continue to justify all the multi-billion-dollar social welfare programs enacted to "help" blacks. No, the infantilization of blacks will continue as scheduled, because there is no opportunity for graft if we treats blacks the same as everybody else.

Posted by: Trivial Pursuer at September 20, 2013 09:25 AM (/sohm)

151 Black crime rates in the Caribbean are actually very high. Jamaica and Haiti -- super high crime rates.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at September 20, 2013 09:26 AM (ZPrif)

152 I never understood why the Aruba killer was allowed into Peru, why a young woman wd go off with him, and now why a woman would marry him and fuck him in prison. And why have conjugal visits for a guy who has already murdered two young women? The world is crazy.

Posted by: Jesse Pinkman at September 20, 2013 09:26 AM (T0Pku)

153 The local media has been all over this, as expected, but it gets little play otherwise. It's common to denigrate the entire city (MURDER CAPITAL!) but the dirty secret is that virtually all of these incidents take place in a relatively small portion of town. I've lived here my entire life (save for a couple of years when I was tiny); I've heard a gunshot once, in 1991. If this were a widespread phenomenon, you bet it would be common. But here I am, living very much in the city my entire life, yet the stories of these crimes feel like they are ported in from a different planet.

Posted by: the wolf at September 20, 2013 01:21 PM (MAp7G)



They attack people on Michigan Ave. The rats would take the Red Line get off at the Chicago stop attack and rob people and head back the south side on the Red Line.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 20, 2013 09:26 AM (1Jaio)

154 That's why I keep a piece in my desk whenever I call Curtis Granderson or Derek Jeter into my office LOL!!

Posted by: John Smith at September 20, 2013 09:26 AM (wR+pz)

155 Chicago got 99 shootings but the MSM saw one.

Posted by: Michael at September 20, 2013 09:26 AM (Y/HG5)

156 Damn animals!  Seriously, tell me how this inner city trash is much different than wild animals.  Call me racist if you like.

Posted by: Havedash at September 20, 2013 09:27 AM (F0WNa)

157 Besides the protection of blacks from themselves angle it is also not covered because the guns used are not legally purchased.

Posted by: steevy at September 20, 2013 09:27 AM (9XBK2)

158 Caveat/Correction: gp says I'm just wrong about this-- that the media didn't "completely ignore" it, and didn't even mostly ignore it. I will provisionally take his word for that (while still doubting that the media give it Newton-style play or Navy Yard style play). But even if I'm wrong in the premise -- this would merely be the latest of a hundred deadly days in Chicago. If this one got coverage -- okay. But there were 99 before this one.) *************** Right--there has been an established trend line for decades about how the media reports crime. They have more enthusiasm for the white nut. And they have a symbiotic relationship with that type of killer--he does it for their attention and to get them to publish his manifesto on the cheap.

Posted by: tasker at September 20, 2013 09:28 AM (r2PLg)

159 @134 but Obamunism will set you free!

Posted by: Cretin at September 20, 2013 09:28 AM (tfSla)

160 They are committed to the false belief that ethnic and racial groups don't exist -- that it's just a coat of paint and some different hair glued on our heads. That men and women are the same except one group has an innie and the other has an outie.

They refuse to look at easily measured differences for fear of what they might find.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at September 20, 2013 01:18 PM (ZPrif)


Except that women can't possibly be treated equally and must have someone buy their birth control, give them easier standards in the military and fire department, and never call them "ma'am."


And blacks need lower standards for school tests, affirmative action in hiring practice, etc.


Not equal, but equal outcome. Flies in the face of the founding fathers, but that's liberals for you.

Posted by: tcn at September 20, 2013 09:28 AM (3kDQa)

161

How about a Christina Hendricks/Kat Denning ticket?

 

 

 

Can you image the position brief?

Posted by: wrg500 at September 20, 2013 09:28 AM (L9Mr/)

162 >There are all manner of things we could do as a society to disincentivize and discourage violence--gun and otherwise. We seem hell-bent on doing the exact opposite of almost all of them, in every single fucking particular from encouraging stable marriages and profitable, honest businesses, right on down the list.

Posted by: filbert at September 20, 2013 01:24 PM (7vimm)


i meant stopping it immediately, not 20 years from now

Posted by: Jones in CO at September 20, 2013 09:29 AM (8sCoq)

163 Baby was shot in the face at this Chicago melee. Animals aren't that bad.

Posted by: thunderb at September 20, 2013 09:29 AM (LNdZd)

164 I never understood why the Aruba killer was allowed into Peru, why a young woman wd go off with him Cocaine Rohypnol is a helluva drug.

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat [/i] at September 20, 2013 09:29 AM (U2UQk)

165 What do you expect from a Berg Obama Organized?

Posted by: Grampa Noble at September 20, 2013 09:29 AM (MhA4j)

166 149 It isn't genetic, I can tell you that. Popular American black culture drives this shit, and I'm not talking just about the music and movies. Up here, I mostly deal with blacks from Africa or the Carribean. They would smack the dogshit out of their kids for trying to act "gangsta" or talking like a dyslexic retard with a fresh head wound, with their bullshit ebonics gutter-speech.

Fuck all that shit. I'm retired from dealing with the attitude and the crime. I'm out.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at September 20, 2013 01:24 PM (o/tYL)


Jeff, you and I have crossed swords over the decade, but on this we agree.  One of my best friends is from the Virgin Islands.  Black as night.  He hates the culture he was born into because he's judged by his skin color by not the world, but by his family.

He makes around $150K a year, has 3 degrees and has earned it all. 

And when he goes home for family reunion time he's not greeted like us white folk are given the same stats.  Nope.  Uncle Tom.  Bitch of the White Man.

I can't fix it for him.  All I can do is empathize and be there when he vents.

Culture of f**king fail.

Posted by: tangonine at September 20, 2013 09:29 AM (x3YFz)

167 The Navy Shipyard --that could have been terrorist related as Fort Hood was--so I do think the media was justified in giving it the coverage that they did.

Posted by: tasker at September 20, 2013 09:30 AM (r2PLg)

168

tl; dr.  (nah, just busting your chops, Ace.  Good post).

 

i]Doesn't the media even care? I have to think some blacks are wondering.

 

Perhaps.  I don't know.  But I do know - and you touched on this, Ace - that there is a repeated lament among minority communities that the police don't investigate as much when it's a black victim, and the media doesn't care when it's a black victim. . .because it's racism.  The cops are white, the media is white.  They don't care about blacks.

 

Of course, this is a constant refrain.  Even in 1888, there were mutterings that if the victims of Jack the Ripper had come from the wealthy West End instead of the poor East End, the police would have spared no effort to catch him.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 20, 2013 09:30 AM (zF6Iw)

169

>>>Damn animals! Seriously, tell me how this inner city trash is much different than wild animals. Call me racist if you like.

 

Heh. I would make the argument that humans are, in effect, wild animals to begin with and that the only 'domesticated humans' that can be found are either in prisons or the inner city, because they are all 'owned' to some degree. And lookee there, the violence increases when freedom is lowered... seems axiomatic somehow.

Posted by: Bigby's Trigger Finger at September 20, 2013 09:30 AM (3ZtZW)

170 Chicago had 72 shootings over the 4th of July weekend. 13 is for pikers.

Posted by: Jesse Pinkman at September 20, 2013 09:30 AM (T0Pku)

171 Rohypnol is a helluva drug. Posted by: Schrödinger's cat Strategically applied can lead to promotions and job security.

Posted by: Grampa Noble at September 20, 2013 09:30 AM (MhA4j)

172 Did you know that the average dago's cranial vault is 180cc smaller than a white man's. Don't hate me, hate the science.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at September 20, 2013 09:30 AM (o/tYL)

173 In Brazil, the black crime rate is much higher than other Brazilian ethnic groups. In South Africa the black crime rate is much higher than the white crime rate. African immigrants to American have lower crime rates than native born blacks because they are, mostly, self-selected from higher-IQ, upper-income groups. The Nigerian elite that send their children to be educated in America do have lower crime rates than the avg black American.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at September 20, 2013 09:31 AM (ZPrif)

174

>>>Baby was shot in the face at this Chicago melee. Animals aren't that bad.

 

Wrong. I mean, right they don't have guns, but wrong - they kill babies alla time. Chimps, apes, spiders, dogs, you name it.

Posted by: Bigby's Trigger Finger at September 20, 2013 09:32 AM (3ZtZW)

175 I could soooo get behind/infront or underneath a Christina Hendricks/Sofia Vergara ticket! It would be much better than the boobs and asses we have in there now!

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Honey Badger Shaman at September 20, 2013 09:32 AM (naUcP)

176 Let me be clear; folks,  those tragic shootings in my home town of Sheboygan, uh, uh, Chicago, are why I've acted in the absence of the Republicans in Congress, who were out feeding on babies at the time anyway, folks. I've instituted executive orders banning the reimportation of WWII-era rifles for the Civilian Marksmanship Program. Some say, what good will this do? I answer those shortsighted, bigoted Republicans with this incontrovertible truth: When's the last time you saw a gang-banger with an M1 Garand shoved  down the front his saggy pants?? Was this appalling mass murder committed with an M1 carbine?  Proof positive my policies work for the middle class!

Posted by: Emperor Barackus Maximus, Supreme Urkel Of The Cosmos at September 20, 2013 09:32 AM (DLu2s)

177 I don't know how you stop the gun violence in Chicago without shitting all over the 1st 2nd 4th and 5th Amendments Chicago already shit all over the 2nd Amendment. You see where that's gotten us. The point about media coverage is that 18 people were shot in 4 hours, including 13 in one incident. Had this happened in Texas, there would be wall to wall to wall to wall to wall shrieking about guns and the NRA and all the normal bukkake theater. But it's not. Because Chicago. It's like Detroit turning into a post-apocalyptic wasteland. If this were some Republican controlled major city, there would be nightly stories about the Mad Max world where people live now. But there's not. There are only attempts to blame Republicans and change history so that anything but decades and decades of Democrat rule caused where we are.

Posted by: alexthechick - Team Oh Fuck All This Shit at September 20, 2013 09:32 AM (VtjlW)

178 When you get cute and decide some Truths shouldn't be reported, ostensibly for the Greater Good, you will soon find that you're actually advancing the Greater Evil.

The Greater Good.

Posted by: the Neighborhood Watch Alliance at September 20, 2013 09:32 AM (sj9LN)

179 They have more enthusiasm for the white nut. And they have a symbiotic relationship with that type of killer--he does it for their attention and to get them to publish his manifesto on the cheap. Good point the NY Times is all over themselves blaming the VA, the Navy, the Cops and anyone else that talked to the Black guy and didn't have him committed. It is still "whiteys" fault for not helping him.

Posted by: John Smith at September 20, 2013 09:32 AM (wR+pz)

180 The only reason Detroit doesn't have a higher crime rate is because everyone left.  No one left to shoot.

Posted by: tangonine at September 20, 2013 09:33 AM (x3YFz)

181 It isn't genetic, I can tell you that. Popular American black culture drives this shit, and I'm not talking just about the music and movies. Up here, I mostly deal with blacks from Africa or the Carribean. They would smack the dogshit out of their kids for trying to act "gangsta" or talking like a dyslexic retard with a fresh head wound, with their bullshit ebonics gutter-speech.

--

I concur.  One of my best friends for the past 20+ years is a black woman who came from Morocco.  Way back when, she used to tell me how shocked she was when she first came here at the way blacks in America acted.  Lazy, no ethics, disrespectful.  These are her words, not mine. 

Posted by: Lady in Black at September 20, 2013 09:33 AM (XB5Ak)

182 They make it a small "That's Sad" story by making it about the three year old that died amongst everyone else. Go around and look at the articles. It isn't the number of people that died as much as it's about the one toddler.


Yeah, what irony it is to make it past the Gosnell abattoirs only to get capped on a park swing set.

I guess that angle probably won't get much play either.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 20, 2013 09:33 AM (8ZskC)

183 "That's horseshit...you debase yourself by belittling him."


We never heard jack shit from him about his initiative in Africa or his honor in dealing with wounded vets and the families of the fallen.  You have to be a political junkie to know, as I do, that he is a man of action in that regard.  I couldn't  possibly belittle the man because  he's done more on those two fronts than I'll ever do in my life.   But the fact remains that he was a shitty communicator who more often than not failed in both delivery and  subject matter.  A President, I would think, needs to be a good communicator, no?

So yeah, he raised the  worthy subjects of "SBoLE" and reforming SS but then proceeded to leave them flapping in the wind  with his inability to push  his narrative.  I would also extend this more generally to his inability and seeming unwillingness to beat back the left and the MSM (BIRM) in prosecuting the  GWOT.

Posted by: Jaws at September 20, 2013 09:34 AM (4I3Uo)

184 Double standards don't help anyone except for their weak administrators. This is my children's first year at public school. My daughter got jumped from behind in the hall this week, but I won't say anything else right now.

Posted by: Justamom at September 20, 2013 09:34 AM (Sptt8)

185 You have to think statistically to understand racial and ethnic differences. I know a black guy who doesn't have sickle cell anemia. Nobody in his family does. That doesn't mean it's a lie that black people are more prone to sickle cell anemia. I know a Japanese dude who is 6'5. That doesn't mean it's a lie that ethnic Japanese are, on average, shorter than ethnic Germans.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at September 20, 2013 09:35 AM (ZPrif)

186 It isn't genetic, I can tell you that. Popular American black culture
drives this shit, and I'm not talking just about the music and movies.
Up here, I mostly deal with blacks from Africa or the Carribean. They
would smack the dogshit out of their kids for trying to act "gangsta" or
talking like a dyslexic retard with a fresh head wound, with their
bullshit ebonics gutter-speech.

***

There are plenty of Americans who happen to be black who'd do the same thing.

Posted by: cool arrow at September 20, 2013 09:35 AM (WMsq+)

187 My friend from Cameroon laughs at the term African-American. She will tell you that SHE is African-American, and those folks are just plain black. She has not the time of day for gang-bang culture or affirmative action. She came here to become an architect and ended up being a PA, so no shortage of intelligence there, either.

Posted by: tcn at September 20, 2013 09:36 AM (3kDQa)

188 (From the Wiki article on Daniel Patrick Moynihan): "At the time of writing this report, Moynihan was employed at the U.S. Department of Labor. While analyzing various statistics concerning black poverty he noticed something unusual: Instead of rates of black male unemployment and welfare enrollment running parallel as they always had, in 1962 they started to diverge in a way that would come to be called “Moynihan’s scissors.”"
At that time, the out-of-wedlock birth rate for African-Americans was around 25%
Now what is it? (Assuming the kids survive gestation...in NYC about half are killed by abortions.)

Posted by: Cretin at September 20, 2013 09:36 AM (tfSla)

189 I live in a dilapidated, crime-infested Rust-Belt burg not far from Chicago. Our police and judges deal harshly with violent criminals, but the shootings and robberies and home invasions continue. Soon we will have widespread concealed carry, and we'll see if that makes a difference. I know that news reporting isn't going to solve it, no matter how objective or thorough it is. There's just something about the underclass culture that makes those folks want to be thugs.

Posted by: gp at September 20, 2013 09:36 AM (+Jpqc)

190 182 They have more enthusiasm for the white nut. And they have a symbiotic relationship with that type of killer--he does it for their attention and to get them to publish his manifesto on the cheap. Good point the NY Times is all over themselves blaming the VA, the Navy, the Cops and anyone else that talked to the Black guy and didn't have him committed. It is still "whiteys" fault for not helping him. Posted by: John Smith at September 20, 2013 01:32 PM (wR+pz) ********************* Billy Bob--I don't know why--but I know your hash. You're a tricky one.

Posted by: tasker at September 20, 2013 09:36 AM (r2PLg)

191 I think they would have the same beefs--no? BB

Posted by: tasker at September 20, 2013 09:37 AM (r2PLg)

192 Jeff, you and I have crossed swords over the decade, but on this we agree. -------------------- You're a guy, right? And we were "crossing swords"? How drunk was I ?

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at September 20, 2013 09:37 AM (o/tYL)

193 @155: That's hardly a common situation, though. I'm not afraid to walk the Magnificent Mile (the part of Michigan Avenue on the Near North Side) at midnight, and I would tell others not to be afraid to do so, either. Yet there are other parts of the city where parents are afraid to let their children walk a few blocks to and from school in broad daylight during the morning and afternoon.

Posted by: Joshua at September 20, 2013 09:37 AM (oCZ4e)

194 Did you know that the average dago's cranial vault is 180cc smaller than a white man's. Don't hate me, hate the science.

Don't-a hate the taste ovva your next order ovva fettucine Alfredo, chitrool! It'sa gonna have about 10 cc of real Italian genetics in it, you bet! Nice n' creamy the way you like, eh?

Posted by: Enrico, Your Formerly Genial Host Down At the Trattoria Bosco at September 20, 2013 09:38 AM (DLu2s)

195 Africa isn't a continent full of peace and good fellowship.Humans are violent and bad,some varieties more than others.

Posted by: steevy at September 20, 2013 09:38 AM (9XBK2)

196 This is my children's first year at public school. My daughter got jumped from behind in the hall this week, but I won't say anything else right now. Probably by the kid my wife's private school just sent packing. He swung at my wife twice, connected once. So he's gone.

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat [/i] at September 20, 2013 09:38 AM (U2UQk)

197

You're a guy, right? And we were "crossing swords"?  

 

 

Maybe you were both in the same production of Rent?

Posted by: garrett at September 20, 2013 09:38 AM (L4p+9)

198 If only Chicago didn't have such lax gun laws.

Posted by: OCBill at September 20, 2013 09:38 AM (rFipM)

199 (Caveat/Correction: gp says I'm just wrong about this-- that the media didn't "completely ignore" it, and didn't even mostly ignore it. MSNBC did actually cover this. This time. I have to believe that Bill O'Reilly's post-Trayvon decision Talking Points Memos about the MSM's news blackouts re: black-on-black crime got to them. MSNBC savaged O'Reilly over those, but BillO clearly got under their skin.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at September 20, 2013 09:39 AM (7ObY1)

200 I still think Canada has a lower crime rate cuz it's bloody cold and de snow is better for zee tracking.

Posted by: tasker at September 20, 2013 09:39 AM (r2PLg)

201 Wow, how the fuck does that even happen?  That being me at 99.


Heh.  If I had a nickel for every time I fucked up the formatting on this place, I'd be a multi-trillionaire.  Not one of the little buttons at the top of the comments box EVER fucking works, and every comment I make looks normal when I put it in and hit post.


That being said, of course, I'm off to the barrel with glee.  Got a bedroll, bottle of Mountain Dew, pecan roll, bag of pork rinds and an Architectural Digest to read, so I'll be fine.  Just don't dump fish heads on me like last time, you bastards!

Posted by: Sharkman at September 20, 2013 09:39 AM (5mRmR)

202 It's the same for gender difference. Some women are stronger than some men. But men are still bigger, stronger, and faster than women. On average, and by a large margin. Men are, on average, better at spatial reasoning. Hundreds of neuro and psych tests have proven this. This is why men are more likely to be engineers. Male and female IQs are roughly the same, but men have a higher std deviation. This is why most uber-geniuses are men. It's also why most homeless bums are men. The only way to understand the world is statistically. But humans are bad at statistical thinking and easily overwhelmed by a juicy anecdote. Anecdotes are a great way to win the argument and convince your fellow humans. They are terrible for actually understanding the world correctly.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at September 20, 2013 09:39 AM (ZPrif)

203 I don't know how you stop the gun violence in Chicago without shitting all over the 1st 2nd 4th and 5th Amendments

Posted by: Jones in CO at September 20, 2013 01:15 PM (8sCoq)

That's crap.

Giuliani did it in NYC and while he butted heads with the ACLU, most of his initiatives passed muster.

Of course he did shit all over the 2nd Amendment, which is too bad, because it would have fixed the problem sooner had he fought for it. But he simply continued the policies of the city; he didn't start it.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 20, 2013 09:40 AM (gqgiP)

204 87 The Quiet Man Local Chicago news had chief of police calling it a shooting by "military style assault weapons". Followed by the usual blather about getting rid of the guns, etc. Really he can just about phone it in right now because he says the same frikin thing every press conference. I heard it last night on the ABC radio news feed and was really surprised.

Posted by: Buckeye Katie at September 20, 2013 09:40 AM (1M/xn)

205 i meant stopping it immediately, not 20 years from now

Take out the gangs.  I mean, really, REALLY take them out.  Don't tell me the cops don't have a pretty damn good idea who is and isn't in them, and who is and isn't calling the shots.

A "war on terror," you might say.

(And yes, this will undoubtedly piss off a whole lot of "respectable" "businessmen" and "politicians" who just happen to be (through no fault of their own of course) neck-deep in gang/illegal finances and other activities.  All I can say to that is:  good.)

Posted by: filbert at September 20, 2013 09:40 AM (7vimm)

206 gp says I'm just wrong about this-- that the media didn't "completely ignore" it, and didn't even mostly ignore it. They reported it and, when they felt their own uneasiness or lack of outrage, dropped it.

Posted by: t-bird at September 20, 2013 09:40 AM (FcR7P)

207 Yet there are other parts of the city where parents are afraid to let their children walk a few blocks to and from school in broad daylight during the morning and afternoon.

Posted by: Joshua at September 20, 2013 01:37 PM (oCZ4e)


And that shit's been leaking up north into Wisconsin, what with the gang-bangers looking to cash in on better benefits from whitey. The high schools in Madison are becoming gang-central, and not a damned thing is being done about it because...wait for it...Madison is Moscow on the Yahara. Damned liberals are willing to sacrifice kids for the narrative. They are no different than the thugs who did the shooting.

Posted by: tcn at September 20, 2013 09:40 AM (3kDQa)

208 204 That will change as the muslims multiply.

Posted by: steevy at September 20, 2013 09:40 AM (9XBK2)

209

It is a form of paternalism by the Left. A very nasty version that is full of condescension, ignorance, arrogance and disdain for blacks as human beings - one might dare say it was racist. But those on the Left cannot be racist. Because.

 

I'd say it's more maternalistic than paternalistic,  that tendency to treat others as children and     to protect them   by shielding them from the world  (in their minds).

 

 

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at September 20, 2013 09:41 AM (0HooB)

210 A host on MSNBC (yeah, I put on the HAZMAT suit occasionally just to see what the enemy is saying) made a ---holy crap--- excellent point about the Naval Yard shooter:

Security clearances are designed to screen based on one thing:  are you going to blab about classified information?

Did this guy blab about classified information when he was shooting people?  Nope. 

Point is:  his security clearance had exactly zero to do with his mental health.  Now, granted, when you get something like a TS/SCI you get grilled for a couple hours about who you're diddling and your bank accounts, but that's because you might be susceptible to foreign agents.  Some clearances have polygraphs and lifestyle polygraphs (do you masturbate?) 

Oh yeah.  It gets ugly. 

BUT it's about protecting classified info not about you rolling into McDonalds with a meat cleaver attached to a grenade launcher.

As long as you didn't talk... fuck it.

It's like saying OMG he got a fishing license?  JFC!

Posted by: tangonine at September 20, 2013 09:41 AM (x3YFz)

211 201 You're a guy, right? And we were "crossing swords"? Maybe you were both in the same production of Rent? Posted by: garrett at September 20, 2013 01:38 PM (L4p+9) *************** Wait did--Rent have a sword fight!?

Posted by: tasker at September 20, 2013 09:41 AM (r2PLg)

212 149 It isn't genetic, I can tell you that. Popular American black culture drives this shit, and I'm not talking just about the music and movies.


THIS. The black Africans I have encountered have been good, peaceful citizens to a man who just want to live the American dream. American blacks have had this attitude beaten out of them by the pernicious attitudes instilled by The Great Society. It should be a scandal, and isn't.

Posted by: joncelli at September 20, 2013 09:41 AM (RD7QR)

213 You're a guy, right? And we were "crossing swords"?

How drunk was I ?

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at September 20, 2013 01:37 PM (o/tYL)



Crossing swords, touching dicks.



Same difference.

Posted by: EC at September 20, 2013 09:42 AM (GQ8sn)

214 You're a guy, right? And we were "crossing swords"?

How drunk was I ?

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at September 20, 2013 01:37 PM (o/tYL)

Leave it to you to make something ungay, gay.

Posted by: tangonine at September 20, 2013 09:42 AM (x3YFz)

215

Wait did--Rent have a sword fight!?

 

Pretty sure. 

I think it starts with a disagreement over docking procedures.

Posted by: garrett at September 20, 2013 09:42 AM (L4p+9)

216 Wait did--Rent have a sword fight!?

***

Well... they weren't swords, exactly...

Posted by: cool arrow at September 20, 2013 09:42 AM (WMsq+)

217 You're a guy, right? And we were "crossing swords"? Maybe you were both in the same production of Rent? ... this involves "jazz hands"

Posted by: Arbalest at September 20, 2013 09:42 AM (FlRtG)

218 216 I have no doubt,but have you seen the condition of Africa?

Posted by: steevy at September 20, 2013 09:43 AM (9XBK2)

219 Posted by: Flatbush Joe at September 20, 2013 01:39 PM (ZPrif)

Agreed.

The problem is that most people don't understand that statistics describe populations and not individuals.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 20, 2013 09:43 AM (gqgiP)

220 You're a guy, right? And we were "crossing swords"?



How drunk was I ?



Posted by: Empire of Jeff at September 20, 2013 01:37 PM (o/tYL)


Leave it to you to make something ungay, gay.

Posted by: tangonine at September 20, 2013 01:42 PM (x3YFz)



Theater major?  Check!



Posted by: EC at September 20, 2013 09:43 AM (GQ8sn)

221 Back in the '90's, when DC was the murder capital of the nation, the Washington Post always buried the stories in the back pages. Not so much when a white guy bought it, just the inner city black on black crime.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at September 20, 2013 09:43 AM (l3vZN)

222

>>>>Take out the gangs. I mean, really, REALLY take them out

 

Not going to push it much, and don't have a solution to it, but if you look at the history of these gangs you'll find they became what they are now because of efforts to 'really take them out'.

Posted by: Bigby's Trigger Finger at September 20, 2013 09:43 AM (3ZtZW)

223 Al Sharpton IS on my flight. I am sure he will be alllll over this story.

Posted by: thunderb at September 20, 2013 09:43 AM (LNdZd)

224 It could have been-- Cats!

Posted by: tasker at September 20, 2013 09:44 AM (r2PLg)

225 @195 I know nothing. That's my story.

Posted by: John Smith at September 20, 2013 09:44 AM (wR+pz)

226 If you looked at statistics about race and crime, the problem in this country is not whites (and white hispanics) using guns in self defense.  It's jaw dropping how much violence is caused by black considering they only make up about 12% of the population.

The media knows where all the real crime is coming from, but that doesn't fit the narrative, doesn't gin up the right voters, and could possibly erase some white guilt that's politically useful.

Posted by: McAdams at September 20, 2013 09:44 AM (PtSEi)

227 214 A host on MSNBC (yeah, I put on the HAZMAT suit occasionally just to see what the enemy is saying) Me too. And much as I detest Morning RINO, I watch it because it's better than Fox & Friends (I'm damning with faint praise.) And F & F is even worse now with Elisabeth Hasselbeck. I like he,r but she seems lost and way out of her element. Plus the new set, with Heather Nauert (sp.?) standing there awkwardly off to the side reading the news...ugh. I'd rather watch Mike Boobinski smirk, sneer, scowl and make other funny faces while staring directly at the camera.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at September 20, 2013 09:44 AM (7ObY1)

228 It isn't genetic, I can tell you that. Popular American black culture
drives this shit, and I'm not talking just about the music and movies.

There also seem to be a lot of non-black kids who want to be part of this culture.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at September 20, 2013 09:44 AM (/kI1Q)

229 There are plenty of Americans who happen to be black who'd do the same thing. Posted by: cool arrow at September 20, 2013 01:35 PM (WMsq+) ---------------- And they are excoriated by their fellow black Americans for "acting white"; for being "Uncle Toms", Oreos" and "house n*ggers". Do you not see how poisonous the culture is when it shames and punishes those who try to succeed in spite of it? Sometimes with lethal results. There was a young black boy last year, I forget where, that didn't want anything to do with the local gangs. He just wanted to go to college. And they killed him. For being a "punk." "Back in the fuckin' box!" said the crabs.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at September 20, 2013 09:44 AM (o/tYL)

230 "I live in a dilapidated, crime-infested Rust-Belt burg not far from Chicago. Our police and judges deal harshly with violent criminals,'

Define "harshly".  

I've not seen too many  (or any)  convicted murderers  swinging from the end of a rope in the courthouse square pour encourager  les autres.  Maybe my definition of "harsh" is different.


Posted by: Jaws at September 20, 2013 09:44 AM (4I3Uo)

231 Posted by: joncelli at September 20, 2013 01:41 PM (RD7QR)

Of course it's genetic, and I know exactly how to fix it.

Posted by: Margaret Sanger at September 20, 2013 09:44 AM (gqgiP)

232 @206 Inductive reasoning won't do it all for us, but on the other hand the exact azimuth of the sunrise is predictable.
Statistics is statistics. Spherical trig, on the other hand, is math.

Posted by: Cretin, facing the problem of the Principle of the Uniformity of Nature head-on at September 20, 2013 09:45 AM (tfSla)

233 There's been a lot of hand-wringing from the professional minorities around Chicago that the concealed-law is going to get a lot of the poor chillun killed. What they don't mention is they're afraid it's gonna be their wilding, gang-banging mutt offspring that's going to catch the slug from some white suburbanite unwilling to play 'Share-The-Wealth' or 'Knock-Down' with the poor yout's.

The screaming that ensues the first time some sober citizen pops some drugged-up mook is gonna come right out of the Saint Trayvon handbook.

Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at September 20, 2013 09:45 AM (DLu2s)

234 I live in a dilapidated, crime-infested Rust-Belt burg not far from Chicago.

Posted by: gp at September 20, 2013 01:36 PM (+Jpqc)


Illinois or Indiana side, I grew up in Crown Point, Indiana.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes at September 20, 2013 09:45 AM (kXoT0)

235 Posted by: BlueStateRebel at September 20, 2013 01:44 PM (7ObY1)

Hasselbeck is a very nice looking lady.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 20, 2013 09:46 AM (gqgiP)

236

Maybe you were both in the same production of Rent?

 

Rent?  Feh.  It's Cats with AIDS.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 20, 2013 09:46 AM (zF6Iw)

237 Hasselbeck is a very nice looking lady. Indeed. Tres hawt. I wanted to like F & F a lot more now that she's on it, but it's just not happening for me. Maybe she'll grow into the role.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at September 20, 2013 09:47 AM (7ObY1)

238 I wonder if Oprah had been rollin' into the Back of the Yards if the homies would have jacked her for her $35K Swiss Jennifer Aniston Signature Series lizard skin handbag?

Posted by: Fritz at September 20, 2013 09:47 AM (oBz1n)

239 Maybe she'll grow into the role.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at September 20, 2013 01:47 PM (7ObY1)

Doubtful, but at least she is better then that fucking idiot she replaced.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 20, 2013 09:48 AM (gqgiP)

240 There also seem to be a lot of non-black kids who want to be part of this culture.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at September 20, 2013 01:44 PM (/kI1Q)

Yeah, all so Jayzee can have a Bentley and a deluxe apartment in the sky.  I completely loathe rap and hiphop because of the way it discusses women and glorifies gang culture.  I do give it credit for hypnotic beats, but, the same lyic repeated twenty times in a row is not art.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes at September 20, 2013 09:48 AM (kXoT0)

241 Oh great Ann Curry is on CNN with a pillow case wrapped around her head.

Posted by: tasker at September 20, 2013 09:48 AM (r2PLg)

242 Not going to push it much, and don't have a solution to it, but if you look at the history of these gangs you'll find they became what they are now because of efforts to 'really take them out'.

OK, how's this:

Gangs and organized crime flourish mainly by providing goods and services which are banned by governments--that's where they get most of their money.

Dry up the money.

Yep.  I'm talking legalization.

Posted by: filbert at September 20, 2013 09:48 AM (7vimm)

243 Haaselbeck musy hasve lost some brain cells spending so much time with that dim bulb crew of btches.

Posted by: steevy at September 20, 2013 09:48 AM (9XBK2)

244 228 It could have been--


Cats!

Posted by: tasker at September 20, 2013 01:44 PM (r2PLg)

Closest I've ever been to gay:  No Shit, There I Was:  a male Lt Col invited me and the wife to go see Cats with him in... sheesh... was like 1989?  Wife got sick and it was just me and him.

It's pretty goddam frightening now as I think about it.  At the time, I was just like... "hey!  culture!  Wait... those guys on stage look gay..."  Surprised I didn't get roofied...

Posted by: tangonine at September 20, 2013 09:49 AM (x3YFz)

245 @240 I am grateful, MP4, that I have no clue about either, other than that they're both plays.
And, please, let me keep it that way.
I expect both are pernicious nonsense, like much of pop culture.

Posted by: Cretin, facing the problem of the Principle of the Uniformity of Nature head-on at September 20, 2013 09:49 AM (tfSla)

246 The three-year old's uncle was shot and killed two weeks ago.  The "reverend" presiding over the funeral promised that there'd be "street justice" if the killers didn't turn themselves in.  So either there was another shooting last week or someone really has it in for this poor family for absolutely no reason!

Posted by: Aaron at September 20, 2013 09:49 AM (QpXw0)

247 Al Sharpton IS on my flight. I am sure he will be alllll over this story. Posted by: thunderb at September 20, 2013 01:43 PM (LNdZd) Is his totally not a pro in any way shape or form girlfriend with him?

Posted by: alexthechick - Team Oh Fuck All This Shit at September 20, 2013 09:49 AM (VtjlW)

248 Maybe that wasn't Rahm Emanuel on your flight. Maybe somebody just didn't want to check their new garden gnome (/rimshot)

Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at September 20, 2013 09:50 AM (DLu2s)

249 Surprised I didn't get roofied...

Posted by: tangonine at September 20, 2013 01:49 PM (x3YFz)

How do you know you didn't?

Tango?

Suspicious.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 20, 2013 09:50 AM (gqgiP)

250 248 Hmmm,that was before don't ask don't tell....

Posted by: steevy at September 20, 2013 09:50 AM (9XBK2)

251 And they are excoriated by their fellow black Americans for "acting white"; for being "Uncle Toms", Oreos" and "house n*ggers".

***

Yes, and that's fucked-up.  I'm not defending the alleged "culture," which is utter bullshit and must be destroyed.  Just pointing out that it's not only Africans who abhor it.

Posted by: cool arrow at September 20, 2013 09:51 AM (WMsq+)

252 Closest I've ever been to gay: No Shit, There I Was: a male Lt Col invited me and the wife to go see Cats with him in... sheesh... was like 1989? Wife got sick and it was just me and him. It's pretty goddam frightening now as I think about it. At the time, I was just like... "hey! culture! Wait... those guys on stage look gay..." Surprised I didn't get roofied... Posted by: tangonine at September 20, 2013 01:49 PM (x3YFz) *********** LMAO! Gawd that's funny. (Jeez--after Cats I realized I had exhausted my Broadway "knowledge".)

Posted by: tasker at September 20, 2013 09:51 AM (r2PLg)

253 Violence is disproportionately committed by people with lower IQs and less impulse control. They have greater difficulty planning out the future, dealing with frustration, and predicting the consequences of their actions. Life is confusing for somebody with an IQ of 85. Ideas that seem really stupid and short-sighted to somebody with 115 IQ, seem reasonable to somebody with an IQ of 85. Combine poor impulse control with high rates of testosterone and aggression ... and you get high crime rates. It's why dumb males commit so much more crime than dumb females.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at September 20, 2013 09:51 AM (ZPrif)

254 There also seem to be a lot of non-black kids who want to be part of this culture. I gotta son -- in his 30's -- that has the five foot wide subwoofer in the back seat of his truck. Plays all that misogynist n followed by asterisks music. I have to refer to it like that because they use the word so frequently in the 'music'. I ask him why he listens to that shit and he says, 'Because I like it. This is America, right.' He thinks he's a libertarian. I think he's encouraging something that needs to be discouraged.

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat [/i] at September 20, 2013 09:51 AM (U2UQk)

255 Doubtful, but at least she is better then that fucking idiot she replaced. Gretch always sounded like she just heard about every fucking story only minutes before reporting on it. Watching her try to do any serious interviews was just plain painful. Only thing I gave Carlson credit for was encouraging girls to be happy with their bodies the way they are and not go all anorexic because of media pressure. After all, she herself was cruelly referred to as The First Fat Miss America. But yeah, Gretchen sucked badly and needed to go. Kilmeade should go next.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at September 20, 2013 09:51 AM (7ObY1)

256 I just went out for a smoke break and turned on the radio and heard a news report about this shooting. So it is being reported, at least on the local talk radio station that carries Rush. Then, immediately afterwards, I heard a commercial for crossbows. Yes, crossbows. Can't say I recall hearing a radio commercial for crossbows before.

Posted by: rickl at September 20, 2013 09:51 AM (zoehZ)

257 253 Surprised I didn't get roofied...

Posted by: tangonine at September 20, 2013 01:49 PM (x3YFz)

How do you know you didn't?

Tango?

Suspicious.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 20, 2013 01:50 PM (gqgiP)


I'm fucking trying to remember!  goddamit stop interrupting me!

FK!

Posted by: tangonine at September 20, 2013 09:51 AM (x3YFz)

258 Rent? Feh. It's Cats with AIDS.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 20, 2013 01:46 PM (zF6Iw)

Horrible.  I tried to watch a version of it filmed for TV.  After twenty minutes, I concluded that it was just an AIDs relief infomercial.  At least Cats had some good songs.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes at September 20, 2013 09:51 AM (kXoT0)

259

If you looked at statistics about race and crime, the problem in this country is not whites (and white hispanics) using guns in self defense. It's jaw dropping how much violence is caused by black considering they only make up about 12% of the population.

The media knows where all the real crime is coming from, but that doesn't fit the narrative, doesn't gin up the right voters, and could possibly erase some white guilt that's politically useful.

Posted by: McAdams at September 20, 2013 01:44 PM (PtSEi)

 

Historically we have blamed crime on the latest wave immigrants to our shores.  The Micks, Dagos, Bohunks, etc., were always great bogeymen.  But they all seemed to raise themselves out of their ghettos.   The Cosby's and the MLK Jr.'s all tried to do the same.  But something happened in the 1960's and it has not gotten better. 

 

 

Posted by: rd at September 20, 2013 09:52 AM (D+lxs)

260 Can't say I recall hearing a radio commercial for crossbows before.

***

Oh jeez.

Here we go again...

Posted by: cool arrow at September 20, 2013 09:52 AM (WMsq+)

261 Chicago appears to be using the muzzie on muzzie approach for dealing with its gang problem. Sans the gas.

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at September 20, 2013 09:52 AM (n8LUb)

262 175 Did you know that the average dago's cranial vault is 180cc smaller than a white man's. Don't hate me, hate the science.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at September 20, 2013 01:30 PM (o/tYL)

 

Was Random or one of the other "I'm not racist its science!" idiots in here spouting their garbage again?

Posted by: buzzion at September 20, 2013 09:53 AM (LI48c)

263 but, the same lyic repeated twenty times in a row is not art.

Have you ever heard Beethoven's Ninth Symphony?

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at September 20, 2013 09:53 AM (/kI1Q)

264 Ideas that seem really stupid and short-sighted to somebody with 115 IQ, seem reasonable to somebody with an IQ of 85.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at September 20, 2013 01:51 PM (ZPrif)

So, if we pass laws that make it more difficult for law-abiding citizens (who don't commit crimes) to get guns, then we will have less gun crime?

Sounds good to me?

What's your point?

Posted by: The Democrat Party at September 20, 2013 09:53 AM (gqgiP)

265 SCIENCE!

Posted by: T. Dolby at September 20, 2013 09:53 AM (WMsq+)

266 Look at this video. Can you imagine your kids going to this school? Fuck, I feel like we have an entire culture that doesn't stand a chance.

http://tinyurl.com/mdz9hho

Posted by: Warden at September 20, 2013 09:54 AM (bmp0d)

267 Another story the media won't report:

Lautenberg's (one of the wealthiest assholes in the US Senate when his mummified body finally collapsed, god rest his soul) widow has a direct cash appropriation for $175K in the Senate CR (sec 134 if you got access, serfs)

It's not only the insanity of giving someone $175K who has an estate worth $50M+, its the fucking balls on those clowns.  They don't even try and hide it.  Make it a narrow cast, estate tax depreciation schedule change that benefits her - that no one will figure out for decades.  No we'll just slap his dead, shriveled up dick right in our faces.  Fuck you, proles, pay your taxes and stfu.

The backscratching doesn't even stop when they're dead.

Posted by: Jean at September 20, 2013 09:54 AM (x0UH9)

268

The national media may not cover these shootings, but the local media in Chicago covers it like a nightly ritual.

1) Announce headline

2) Get interview footage w/surviving family

3) Get video of the resulting "stop the killing" neighborhood parade/vigil

4) Get soundbyte from community organizer/church leader on how the government must "do something"

This has become woven into the fabric of these commnities that it is not uncommon to see people wearing what I can only describe as "Memorial T-shirts" and other merchandise. The culture is sick and not healing itself

Posted by: Roberto Luongo's Contract at September 20, 2013 09:54 AM (wsLRF)

269 So EC, GGE, MPPP should I pitch another idea to Amazon Studios?  And what should it be?

The Life Ewok or something?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 20, 2013 09:54 AM (pDfBu)

270

A great angle for some intrepid reporter would be to talk about presidential vacations.  Reagan went to his ranch in CA.  Bush '41 went to Kennebunkport, ME.  Kennedy went to Hyannisport, MA.  Bush '43 went to his ranch  in TX.  Johnson went to his ranch in TX.    Nixon went to  his estate in  San Clemente in CA.    They  all  also used Camp David, the presidential retreat.

 

But does  our  Barry spend his vacations at his mansion in Chicago?   Of course not.  Why?   He'd get his scrawny ass shot off, that's why.

 

Would be an interesting report.  Oh well, fantasies.

Posted by: RickZ at September 20, 2013 09:55 AM (R4cZT)

271 and BTW - its not solely black on black. The latino gangs are just as, if not more, viscious in their killing

Posted by: Roberto Luongo's Contract at September 20, 2013 09:55 AM (wsLRF)

272 I'm fucking trying to remember! goddamit stop interrupting me! FK! Posted by: tangonine at September 20, 2013 01:51 PM (x3YFz) ----------------- Show me on my pants where the colonel touched you.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff plays to your hateful stereotypes at September 20, 2013 09:55 AM (Drx1T)

273 275 and BTW - its not solely black on black. The latino gangs are just as, if not more, viscious in their killing Tell me about it.

Posted by: Walter White at September 20, 2013 09:55 AM (7ObY1)

274 175 Did you know that the average dago's cranial vault is 180cc smaller than a white man's. Don't hate me, hate the science.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at September 20, 2013 01:30 PM (o/tYL)

Your average bird has a brain the size of your thumb and I'd be more likely to punch you in the face than hurt a bird.

Don't hate the outcome, hate the message.

Posted by: tangonine at September 20, 2013 09:56 AM (x3YFz)

275 @240 I am grateful, MP4, that I have no clue about either, other than that they're both plays.
And, please, let me keep it that way.
I expect both are pernicious nonsense, like much of pop culture.

 

Posted by: Cretin, facing the problem of the Principle of the Uniformity of Nature head-on at September 20, 2013 01:49 PM (tfSla)

 

Well, we're past 200, so O/T time.  Rent is an amateurish ripoff of La Boheme, with the "bohemians" of the opera replaced by hip, urban douchebags who get mad at a landlord for actually wanting his rent from the poor, artistic souls who dwell in his building.  And it only has the rep it does because its composer died the day of its premiere.

 

Cats has a better pedigree, being based on some poems of T.S. Eliot.  But the music is some of the worst drivel that Andrew Lloyd Webber (who is, actually, a gifted composer) ever penned, exceeded only by the head-banging monotony of Starlight Express.  IMO, ALW only wrote one score of note - Evita.  The Phantom of the Opera has some grand passages, but it's weakened by length and pedestrian lyrics.  The opening theme of Sunset Boulevard is so haunting, it is a pity it can't be added to the score of the movie itself.

 

And don't get me started on The Woman in White, Whistle Down the Wind or Love Never Dies.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 20, 2013 09:56 AM (zF6Iw)

276 "At the time of writing this report, Moynihan was employed at the U.S. Department of Labor. Did some back-checking on that report...the man was dead on. So of course, they attacked him and the report with the usual layers of BS.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Honey Badger Shaman at September 20, 2013 09:56 AM (naUcP)

277 The uncle who was only 21 looks pretty gangster to me: http://goo.gl/td6FdQ

Posted by: Jesse Pinkman at September 20, 2013 09:56 AM (T0Pku)

278 Telling a dumb person with an IQ of 85 to not be so short-sighted is like telling a short person to be taller. IQ is set early in childhood and doesn't improve with schooling or training. Nothing after puberty shows any reliable signs of improvement. There is some evidence that very early childhood education can have a very modest boost. Smart people are smart because they are born with smart genes they got from smart parents. Adoption studies have proved this. Dumb kids with dumb genes adopted by smart parents with smart genes ... become dumb adults. Main effect of parenting on IQ is if parents allow bad things -- malnutrition, abuse, disease. Your max IQ is mostly due to genes. Same with your max height.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at September 20, 2013 09:56 AM (ZPrif)

279 its not solely black on black. The latino gangs are just as, if not more, viscious in their killing

***

Ah, but again, The Narrative.

Posted by: cool arrow at September 20, 2013 09:56 AM (WMsq+)

280 I remember a scene in Huckleberry Finn where there was a killing down on the docks and it went something like: "there were several people killed and some negroes".

Nothing new under the sun.

Posted by: Joe Mama at September 20, 2013 09:56 AM (/8Ucg)

281 I don't see Jesse or Al running through the south side and screaming about racism. The core of this of course is drug laws. Legalize drugs; end all govt support for abusers, and eliminate govt transfer payments for anyone that gets caught using drugs. Then let the chips fall. Violence will drop, and drug abuse will drop.

Posted by: Jeff at September 20, 2013 09:56 AM (MOSsR)

282

>>>Dry up the money.

 

I think that might help for a time, yet the gangs would still persist and still be violent. Before crack arrived they were violent. After crack they were instant millionaires and violent on a wider front.

It helps to recognise them as institutions within their 'hood , not as part of any traditional power structure but still very much a player in the power structure. How they got that way is, I think, part of how to unravel them.

Posted by: Bigby's Trigger Finger at September 20, 2013 09:57 AM (3ZtZW)

283 85 Inner city blacks are America's Palestinians. They, along with a compliant and bigoted media, will excuse any amount of crime and murder from them because they are perpetual victims. Like the Palestinians, they are taught this from birth. And like Palestinians, the only people they hate worse than the White Enemy are themselves. And like the Palestinians, things will never change. Not in mine or my great-grandchildren's lifetimes. Posted by: Empire of Jeff at September 20, 2013 01:13 PM (o/tYL) Delurking... It pains me to say this, but this is the truth. I have seen it first hand. And what makes it even worse is that the black elites...CBC, Holder, the Obamas, Sharpton, Jackson and others are content to keep the inner city blacks "in their place", all to maintain their power over these poor black folks. I make it a habit to try to talk to and educate as many people as possible about the Democratic Party. Sometimes I am successful, but most of the time I am not. This crap is taught at an early age from parents, teachers, media, politicians and others. And I remember telling my mother and friends that America was going to be turned upside down when Obama was elected the first time. He is a narcissistic, racist asshole with daddy issues and he and the others are taking it out on this great nation. But I firmly believe we will prevail...it's just going to be painful...but we will prevail.

Posted by: I Be That Chick at September 20, 2013 09:57 AM (kVw0W)

284 I believe some of the lack of reporting is ostensibly due to an effort to avoid black "stereotypes".

A plurality of these shootings and crimes occur in inner city, poor areas.

You wrote the other day about the effect this racial political correctness had on the mindset of a white, middle class woman. That's been permeated into people's consciousness by a group of people enforcing their ideas on "norms" by brainwashing in the education process.

Ultimately, that posture, predictably, has served no one. Yet they still enforce it to the detriment of communities who suffer from the plague of violence.

Because it's racist or something to point it out.

In alcoholism, its a proven maxim that admitting you have a problem is the first step.  With respect to violence and criminality in the black community, liberals won't even admit there is a problem.

In the meantime, people die. Anonymously.

Posted by: Marcus at September 20, 2013 09:57 AM (GGCsk)

285 "The Lame Stream Media have become so unpalatable (like the Doobie Brothers) to me that I turn off the sound when Fox Radio news comes on my local Rush affiliate"

Would you please leave me out of sensitive racial discussions? I've got records to sell and this mortgage doesn't pay itself.

Posted by: Michael McDonald at September 20, 2013 09:57 AM (pfVS8)

286 Obama live on MSNBC.  Every time this idiot talks; when he drags his "s's" at the end of a word makes me want to throat snatch him.

Posted by: tangonine at September 20, 2013 09:58 AM (x3YFz)

287 Legalize drugs; end all govt support for abusers, and eliminate govt transfer payments for anyone that gets caught using drugs.

***

Even if the first were to happen, the rest would not.

Posted by: cool arrow at September 20, 2013 09:58 AM (WMsq+)

288 Did you know that the average dago's cranial vault is 180cc smaller than a white man's. Don't hate me, hate the science. Did you know that this average dago trains in MMA? Don't hate me, hate my fists.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at September 20, 2013 09:58 AM (7ObY1)

289 "2) Get interview footage w/surviving family"

2A)  Make sure the interviewee is the most embarrassingly stereotypical  member of the family - impenetrable ebonics, clown clothes, and hyperdramatic hysteronics are de rigeur.

I'm using too much French today.

Posted by: Jaws at September 20, 2013 09:58 AM (4I3Uo)

290 but, the same lyic repeated twenty times in a row is not art.

Have you ever heard Beethoven's Ninth Symphony?

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at September 20, 2013 01:53 PM (/kI1Q)

Yes, but, "she a ho, she gotta go, she a ho, she gotta go" repeated in a loop until one's ears bleed is not art.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes at September 20, 2013 09:59 AM (kXoT0)

291 IQ is set early in childhood and doesn't improve with schooling or training. Nothing after puberty shows any reliable signs of improvement.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at September 20, 2013 01:56 PM (ZPrif)

Not even remotely true.  Problem solving skills can be taught and reinforced until the day you die.

What moron school awarded you a  PhD in education?

Posted by: tangonine at September 20, 2013 10:00 AM (x3YFz)

292 This is why the N-word(fuck) is needed. To say this is a Black problem is too broad a brush. I denounce natch.

Posted by: nip at September 20, 2013 10:00 AM (jI23+)

293 Is anyone else nauseated by the drudge headlines about Ted Cruz?  I can't believe a human being would say that to any other human being, it's just sick and frightening at the same time. 
allanbrauer @allanbrauer

@amandacarpenter May your children all die from debilitating, painful and incurable diseases.

12:20 PM - 20 Sep 2013
http://tinyurl.com/podp2al

Posted by: The PC Police at September 20, 2013 10:00 AM (Nx76m)

294 153 Black crime rates in the Caribbean are actually very high.
Jamaica and Haiti -- super high crime rates.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at September 20, 2013 01:26 PM (ZPrif)


South Africa: per-capita highest car-jacking rates in the world.


I was there in 2011, and we had armed escorts 24/7.

Posted by: Joe Mama at September 20, 2013 10:01 AM (/8Ucg)

295

283 - good point, which reminds me

Now in Chicago, they closed a bunch of underperforming schools people were howling about how these kids were going to have to cross gang lines in order to get to their new schools.

What even the local media doesn't want to report is that the gang lines are drawn by race. The latino gangs won't be hospitable to the black kids coming to their neighborhoods and vice versa.

because, the narrative of racism is a whites-only thing must be upheld.

 

Posted by: Roberto Luongo's Contract at September 20, 2013 10:02 AM (wsLRF)

296 To liberals like internet mall cop C. Blart Johnson, gun safety and gun control are interchangeable terms.


Posted by: LC LaWedgie at September 20, 2013 10:03 AM (6xhLc)

297 Every time this idiot talks; when he drags his "s's" at the end of a word makes me want to throat snatch him. Shorter version's where most of the Horde is, I think.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Honey Badger Shaman at September 20, 2013 10:04 AM (naUcP)

298 "I believe some of the lack of reporting is ostensibly due to an effort to avoid black "stereotypes"."

On a national basis, yes.  But the local coverage is generally  stereotypical as hell like here in da ATL.   I find it easy to believe that news producers punch up this angle on purpose.

Google the "Boo got shot" audio to get a feel of what you see from 11:00 to 11:10 every night down here.  Old but accurate.

Posted by: Jaws at September 20, 2013 10:04 AM (4I3Uo)

299

"Problem solving skills can be taught and reinforced until the day you die."

 

True, but a person's basic intelligence is determined by their DNA and the adequacy of proper nutrition and mental stimulation during the first few years of life.

 

You're either smart or, like the vast majority of people, incredibly fucking stupid.

Posted by: jwest at September 20, 2013 10:04 AM (u2a4R)

300 Did you know that this average dago trains in MMA? Don't hate me, hate my fists. Posted by: BlueStateRebel at September 20, 2013 01:58 PM (7ObY1) ------------------ Well, at least that sounds tougher than "See that bird? He ain't got nothin' to fear from me. I will not punch that bird. Now you? I can't make any guarantees." Besides, I have 4 half-dago kids. Pay attention.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff plays to your hateful stereotypes at September 20, 2013 10:05 AM (Drx1T)

301 Posted by: Roberto Luongo's Contract at September 20, 2013 02:02 PM (wsLRF)

The democratic candidate for NYC mayor is against charter schools, that is racist, the charter schools are not only successful but they have three times as many kids applying as there are spots.  Those schools are shining stars in areas where you need that help.  It's racist but no one will say it.  It's not rich white kids applying to those schools, they are put on the list for fancy prep schools in utero, it's the disadvantaged.

Posted by: The PC Police at September 20, 2013 10:05 AM (Nx76m)

302 282 - thats nice but nobody is arguing IQ and its meaning. Except you. I suppose you might be arguing that genetically dumb persons are always violent, but thats horseshit. I know   retards who'd happily work all day on the shittiest tasks you can put in front of them, one of whom saves every scrap of the pittance paid for assembling little toy matchbox cars so he can donate it all to Christian charities. Dumb as a stump, more disciplined than anybody I know.

Posted by: Bigby's Trigger Finger at September 20, 2013 10:05 AM (3ZtZW)

303

Ace: By which I mean, the Truth is always the best policy. Always. When you get cute and decide some Truths shouldn't be reported, ostensibly for the Greater Good, you will soon find that you're actually advancing the Greater Evil.

 

Truth is like light: the absence of it is darkness.

 

The absence of Truth is Evil.

 

When we aren't  treated like intelligent responsible adults and are  not informed,  you get, well, pretty much what we have today.  I remain convinced that, were we accurately informed about his past associations, TFG wouldn't have been   elected.   

 

 Just one statement of his, "Under my energy plan,   people's energy bills will necessarily skyrocket."  should've  immediately disqualified him. Who in their right  mind would willfully vote for a president who wants their standard  of living to go down   and  is on the record stating he will  do so?   That should've been plastered all over the news and been the   topic of discussion on the talking-head Sunday shows for weeks. But it wasn't.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at September 20, 2013 10:06 AM (0HooB)

304 295 IQ is set early in childhood and doesn't improve with schooling or
training. Nothing after puberty shows any reliable signs of improvement.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at September 20, 2013 01:56 PM (ZPrif)

And I've been teaching for 23 years.

I've taught the 18-24 age group either in the military or as a university professor.  As a defense contractor.

I've taught the batch you propose "can't improve" but my experience runs normal to what you say.

I've seen the lights come on, I've seen the neural connections connect.  I've seen wide-eyed "I want more"

Your presupposition that someone is locked into a level of learning and action is unprovable.

Posted by: tangonine at September 20, 2013 10:06 AM (x3YFz)

305

"Security clearances are designed to screen based on one thing: are you going to blab about classified information?

...BUT it's about protecting classified info not about you rolling into McDonalds with a meat cleaver attached to a grenade launcher.

As long as you didn't talk... fuck it.

It's like saying OMG he got a fishing license? JFC!"

Posted by: tangonine at September 20, 2013 01:41 PM (x3YFz)

 

That isn't true, at least in my experience. I had a secret clearance years ago when I did a contract gig documenting the old mainframe systems configuration for the USAF Air Mobility Command. The investigators were thorough, interviewing pretty much everyone I knew, past and present. One of the things they always look for, according to the Lt. Col. I was working for at the time, was mental and emotional stability. Obviously unstable and noticeably eccentric people were typically not granted higher clearances than 'Confidential', which was that held by most of the civilian maintenance personnel. Maybe standards and criteria have changed since then (my daughter was a baby at the time so it's been many years ago), I don't know.

Posted by: troyriser at September 20, 2013 10:07 AM (2jF2B)

306 Since Cats was invoked.
http://youtu.be/97dTxgWtwbE

Nyah.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 20, 2013 10:08 AM (pDfBu)

307 Who in their right mind would willfully vote for a president who wants their standard of living to go down and is on the record stating he will do so?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at September 20, 2013 02:06 PM (0HooB)

A guilty well educated upper middle class person who is a lib/leftie/dem.  The operative word here is "guilty".

Posted by: The PC Police at September 20, 2013 10:09 AM (Nx76m)

308 Well, at least that sounds tougher than "See that bird? He ain't got nothin' to fear from me. I will not punch that bird. Now you? I can't make any guarantees."


Besides, I have 4 half-dago kids. Pay attention.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff plays to your hateful stereotypes at September 20, 2013 02:05 PM (Drx1T)


Hey jeff.  welcome to the land of Missed The Point.

You'll be alone here.  And mainly...it's because your stupid.

Posted by: tangonine at September 20, 2013 10:10 AM (x3YFz)

309 That isn't true, at least in my experience. I had a secret clearance years ago when I did a contract gig documenting the old mainframe systems configuration for the USAF Air Mobility Command.The investigators werethorough, interviewing pretty much everyone I knew, past and present. One of the things they always look for, according to the Lt. Col. I was working for at the time, was mental and emotional stability. Obviously unstable and noticeably eccentric people were typically not granted higher clearances than 'Confidential', which was that held by most of the civilian maintenance personnel. Maybe standards and criteria have changed since then (my daughter was a baby at the time so it's been many years ago), I don't know.

Posted by: troyriser at September 20, 2013 02:07 PM (2jF2B)

I had a TS/SCI.  Yes emotional stability is a factor.  But the point is WHY they care:  so you don't say things you shouldn't say. 

It's not a mental health service.  And everyone gets a Secret clearance, they're handed out like candy.  If you haven't been to prison you can get a Secret clearance.

Posted by: tangonine at September 20, 2013 10:13 AM (x3YFz)

310 222 216 I have no doubt,but have you seen the condition of Africa? Posted by: steevy at September 20, 2013 01:43 PM (9XBK2) See FJ's comment about self-selection. The opposite is true with regard to black Americans who are descended from American slaves: the only group(s) who did not self-select to come to America. That plus the history of oppression, overt and covert (Great Society and its lingering effects) are the difference. About Africa: do not forget the centuries long tribalist wars exacerbated by the slow genocide caused by the Islamic Slave Trade (they kill/castrate all the men and boys) and by the few European colonial despots like Belgium's King Leopold. My personal opinion: it all goes back to the Tower of Babel.

Posted by: baldilocks at September 20, 2013 10:15 AM (Tnlh/)

311 Who in their right mind would willfully vote for a
president who wants their standard of living to go down and is on the
record stating he will do so?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at September 20, 2013 02:06 PM (0HooB)

People who in their heart of hearts KNOW for an absolute fact that their standards of living will not go down.  Rich Liberals are well insulated from the consequences of the idiocy of Liberal policies.  It is similar to the dichotomy of the Greenies who want us all to live in the cold and dark--except them--because they are the guardians of Gaia.

Orwell stated it so well, "All animals are created equal, but, some animals are more equal than others."

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes at September 20, 2013 10:16 AM (kXoT0)

312 About Africa: do not forget the centuries long tribalist wars exacerbated by the slow genocide caused by the Islamic Slave Trade (they kill/castrate all the men and boys) and by the few European colonial despots like Belgium's King Leopold.   Posted by: baldilocks at September 20, 2013 02:15 PM (Tnlh/)

This ^ times a billion is why I find it so strange when Black people embrace Islam as in The Nation of Islam in order to reject the "slave" religion of Christianity.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes at September 20, 2013 10:20 AM (kXoT0)

313 Telling: the CFD was on-site washing down the court with fire hoses within ~12hr of the last victim being carted off. i.e. about 5hr of good daylight existed before evidence destruction commenced.

That tells me the CPD's "plan" for investigating this crime is to completely ignore it.  How could any crime scene unit process an area that large, to a level of confidence you had all that was to be had, where you could wash it down, unless the plan was cursory, but photogenic, "investigation" for a few days then dump it straight in the cold case file?

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 20, 2013 10:20 AM (9MLX+)

314 Not going to push it much, and don't have a solution to it, but if you look at the history of these gangs you'll find they became what they are now because of efforts to 'really take them out'.

Posted by: Bigby's Trigger Finger at September 20, 2013 01:43 PM (3ZtZW)


I don't think it will stop until the few decent conservative black males in these areas arm up and go all vigilante on the gangbangers. See a hoodrat with a gang tat? Head shot, scoop up his piece, and on to the next one. Kind of like the Brazilian death squads back in the '80s. Scary stuff, I know, but it's got to come from the bottom up, because the powers at the top are completely paralyzed by political correctness, and corruption.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 20, 2013 10:22 AM (8Fl6F)

315 270 Look at this video. Can you imagine your kids going to this school? Fuck, I feel like we have an entire culture that doesn't stand a chance. http://tinyurl.com/mdz9hho Posted by: Warden at September 20, 2013 01:54 PM (bmp0d) That was actually a good result. Most don't end that way.

Posted by: baldilocks at September 20, 2013 10:23 AM (Tnlh/)

316 Obviously unstable and noticeably eccentric people were
typically not granted higher clearances than 'Confidential', which was
that held by most of the civilian maintenance personnel.

Posted by: troyriser at September 20, 2013 02:07 PM (2jF2B)

There's no such thing as a "Confidential" clearance.  Doesn't exist.

Posted by: tangonine at September 20, 2013 10:25 AM (x3YFz)

317 It's not genetic. Imagine a group of people behaving like this back in the hunter/gatherer days. They wouldn't last long. Moynihan pointed to a downward trend starting in 1962. Those of us who remember the 60s know the black culture & community wasn't anything like this, even in the inner cities. To point out the obvious, the difference is work. When people need to work for a living, it makes them much more civilized.

Posted by: Emily at September 20, 2013 10:26 AM (7Rn+/)

318 And I've been teaching for 23 years. I've taught the 18-24 age group either in the military or as a university professor. As a defense contractor. Posted by: tangonine at September 20, 2013 02:06 PM (x3YFz) One of those groups is self-selected for at least average IQ. The military rarely allows small-m morons in, anecdotal evidence notwithstanding.

Posted by: baldilocks at September 20, 2013 10:30 AM (Tnlh/)

319 Have you ever heard Beethoven's Ninth Symphony?

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at September 20, 2013 01:53 PM (/kI1Q)


Beethoven's Ninth has lyrics?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 20, 2013 10:30 AM (8Fl6F)

320 [Islam's extermination of black Africans over the centuries] This ^ times a billion is why I find it so strange when Black people embrace Islam as in The Nation of Islam in order to reject the "slave" religion of Christianity. Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes at September 20, 2013 02:20 PM (kXoT0) They don't know about it. I didn't either until about five years ago, when I actively sought the information. It certainly isn't taught in public schools.

Posted by: baldilocks at September 20, 2013 10:33 AM (Tnlh/)

321 There's no such thing as a "Confidential" clearance. Doesn't exist.

Posted by: tangonine at September 20, 2013 02:25 PM (x3YFz)

 

Yes it does. Or it did. Or I'm truly getting prematurely senile, which scares me.

Posted by: troyriser at September 20, 2013 10:34 AM (2jF2B)

322 From the CNN story:

"The child was among 13 people shot in a Chicago park with an assault-style rifle with a high-capacity magazine police say"

Just the facts.

Posted by: Javems at September 20, 2013 10:40 AM (nTgAI)

323 The only way to fix Chicago is to do something the city government will never allow; let the Chicago PD start warrior policing. Let them go en masse into high crime areas and start cracking heads and load up the prisons. Hell, send in the National Guard if there aren't enough cops.

Posted by: UGAdawg at September 20, 2013 12:01 PM (osx1V)

324 @214: "Security clearances are designed to screen based on one thing: are you going to blab about classified information?

Did this guy blab about classified information when he was shooting people? Nope."

Even if so, we've still got some problems with people getting security clearances. Apparently Bradley Manning and Edward Snowden passed their screenings.

Posted by: Joshua at September 20, 2013 01:25 PM (oCZ4e)

325 How can there be a mass shooting in a gun free zone? It's illegal I tell ya.

Posted by: Boss Moss former editor of the Harvard Law Review at September 20, 2013 01:39 PM (0axsw)

326 Sounds like another AR-15 double barreled shotgun with multiple banana clips.

Posted by: Boss Moss former editor of the Harvard Law Review at September 20, 2013 01:40 PM (0axsw)

327 The correct way to view the shooting of a 3 year old is as a 15th trimester abortion, really, really late term. Now the Marxists can all get behind it. It's all about context.

Posted by: Steve in Greensboro at September 20, 2013 01:54 PM (ZG3Fa)

328 It's really just a lump of cells.

Posted by: Boss Moss former editor of the Harvard Law Review at September 20, 2013 02:05 PM (0axsw)

329 But but but Ace. There is not an embargo on coverage on this story. So... while I appreciate your underlying principle, I don't see that it has anything to do with today. CNN has a whole topbar tab for "Chicago shooting" (gee, I wonder if they ever even have to take that down). To be sure it's strange to see that only after seeing opinionists blathering about the Emmys but that's an ever larger-scale mainstream media failing. Not specific to black-on-black crime at all.

Posted by: Jobey at September 20, 2013 04:48 PM (LZZOx)

330 What exactly is "news" about blacks shooting blacks in Chicago???  It's just ordinary everyday standard operating procedure.

Posted by: Hangtown Bob at September 21, 2013 06:02 AM (9Q/tJ)

331 I think you have half of it correct. The other half is that actual consumers of news... don't care. And I can't fully blame them, at least in the black on black crime. If that were written up it would be the majority of the news. --------------- As to missing black people? Horrible stories. The few I have seen, that followed eventually to a conclusion, the parents were involved by having stolen money from a rival gang, or their own, and their child was taken, or the like. It... never ended up being good, whether the child was ever even found or not. The less I know about what goes on in those neighborhoods, after a few such stories, the better. --------------- Until we make it so that they can't depend on the government, and learn to have to rely on themselves, this won't change. Which, honestly, I don't see happening. As such, I and I would bet (regardless of what they might say) most news consumers simply can't care.

Posted by: Doom at September 21, 2013 07:09 AM (CWh1u)

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