July 01, 2013

1 'It's special to be an American. It's special to be here. ... Why are we giving it away like a cheap suit?'

Posted by: I'm no doctor, nor an actor at July 01, 2013 05:24 AM (e8kgV)

2 pray for the families of the dead fire fighters

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at July 01, 2013 05:26 AM (8JJ6O)

3 SCHIEFFER: How many lawsuits have been filed on that? Because I must say this is under my radar. I haven't heard this.

PERKINS: Well, you know, Bob, that's a great point. Maybe you ought to talk to your newsroom staff about covering more than what the hear on the Soho cocktail circuit

Posted by: Edward R Morrow at July 01, 2013 05:27 AM (e8kgV)

4 WAF

Saw a story at Breitbart in which some Republican congress critter said that amnesty would not pass the house but legalization would.  Seems like a distinction without a difference.

Posted by: SpongeBob ReaverSaget at July 01, 2013 05:28 AM (kxSZr)

5 The State calls one of the Defenses witnesses.  Very odd.

I'd like to think that the State has realized that  they will lose this trial and have started to work to establish Z's innocence, so as to avoid riots upon acquittal.

But I doubt it.

Posted by: toby928© screams like a little girl at July 01, 2013 05:28 AM (codCi)

6 Follow the link about the cops terrorizing that girl buying water... in the comments, there's a link you ought to see...


tinyurl.com/l75jda5

Posted by: Kinley Ardal at July 01, 2013 05:29 AM (JeqUq)

7 Obama cautioned in his speech that, despite freer societies and growing economies, much needs to be done to eradicate poverty, shed corruption and eliminate conflict.

The quagmire that is the US "War On Poverty" continues unabated with poverty rates the same as the day the war started 50 years ago.

Posted by: LBJ at July 01, 2013 05:30 AM (e8kgV)

8 * Irony: Obama Laments "Rot Of Corruption In Africa" --- That's nothing. I'm waiting for the Mandela funeral and the inevitable "It's all about me!" speech by Obama. * Egypt Protestors Want Morsi To Step Down --- Good luck with that, unless the army is willing to go along with you. * 19 Firefighters Die In Arizona Wildfire --- I need to read up on this later to find out what happened and why. If this happened because of greenie "no proper wilderness management" bullshit, I'm going to be pissed. * The Left Rushes To Blames The Firefighters' Deaths On Global Warming --- Eat the fattest part of my ass you fucking hacks. * Police Terrorize College Girl Because They Thought She Bought Alcohol --- Heard about this a couple of days ago. I think this article should be renamed "The Virginia Alcohol / Beverage Control agency obviously has too much time on its hands." * Charges Dropped Against West Virginia Middle School Student Who Wore NRA T-Shirt --- What took so long? And how much will this kid win in civil suits against the school and cops over it? * Gay Marriage Fight Now Becomes A Religious Liberty Fight --- No shit. Someone go find the bridge Gabe is under to let him know. * Everyone Fails Upwards In DC --- The Peter Principle at work... I guess the question is "What will Obama be next since he's an incompetent failure at being president?"

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at July 01, 2013 05:30 AM (a3iAA)

9 The quagmire that is the US "War On Poverty" continues unabated with poverty rates the same as the day the war started 50 years ago.
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Imagine how much worse poverty would be been without it. We're moving in the right direction!

Posted by: Barack HO the Great Stimulator at July 01, 2013 05:32 AM (eEfYn)

10 Wut up morons?

Posted by: EC at July 01, 2013 05:32 AM (GQ8sn)

11

Is that what those Egyptians protestors want?

 

Gotta admit, I rarely listen to anybody in the Middle East anymore. Anytime they show up in the news, I'm like "WTF did they do now?"

Posted by: Bigby's Punch-Bug Blue at July 01, 2013 05:33 AM (3ZtZW)

12 <i>I Guess News Anchors Can Ignore News If They Claim To Have Not Heard About It</i>

I'm not familiar with that.  Probably something for the tabloids.

Posted by: Charlie Gibson at July 01, 2013 05:34 AM (/kI1Q)

13 My USDA rabbit license requirement has taken another ridiculous twist. I just received an 8 page letter from the USDA, telling me that by July 29 I need to have in place a written disaster plan, detailing all the steps I would take to help get my rabbit through a disaster, such as a tornado, fire, flood, etc. They not only want to know how I will protect my rabbit during a disaster, but also what I will do after the disaster, to make sure my rabbit gets cared for properly. I am not kidding–before the end of July I need to have this written rabbit disaster plan in place, or I am breaking the law.

In his email message, Hahne also explained the timeline via which he must comply: 1) the new regulation became effective Jan. 30, 2012; 2) the written plan must be completed by July 29, 2013; 3) Hahne and his wife, Brenda, must be trained to implement the plan as written; and 4) the written plan must be available for review by USDA inspectors by Sept. 28, 2013.

... next up ... disaster plans for domestic animals .. your cat, your dog .. the mice that hide in your house

Posted by: Trayvon Martin at July 01, 2013 05:36 AM (e8kgV)

14 Zimmerman trial in the background trying to explain to Prosecution...

"derp it is not pitch one listens to it is resonance and even resonance changes identifiable sound under distress"

Yeah....through the looking glass

Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at July 01, 2013 05:37 AM (LRFds)

15 Maybe we can have the USDA keep Mayor Nanny Bloomberg busy by requiring a Disaster Plan for the rats in Central Park

Posted by: Trayvon Martin at July 01, 2013 05:38 AM (e8kgV)

16 >>> PERKINS: Well, you know, Bob, that's a great point. Maybe you ought to talk to your newsroom staff about covering more than what the hear on the Soho cocktail circuit Fuckin' A. You're RADAR isn't working very well, Bob.

Posted by: fluffy at July 01, 2013 05:38 AM (z9HTb)

17 We have a plan.

Posted by: la cucaracha at July 01, 2013 05:38 AM (codCi)

18 and I really am out for a bit...

I am striving not to be a top ten poster this week.

Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at July 01, 2013 05:39 AM (LRFds)

19 It's 'Rabbit season' and we are the rabbits.

Posted by: admiral layton at July 01, 2013 05:41 AM (2kpL8)

20 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 01, 2013 05:41 AM (/PCJa)

21

>>>I am not kidding–before the end of July I need to have this written rabbit disaster plan in place, or I am breaking the law.

 

KILL THE WABBIT

Posted by: Bigb'y Spear and Magic Helmet at July 01, 2013 05:41 AM (3ZtZW)

22 I'm waiting for the Mandela funeral and the inevitable "It's all about me!" speech by Obama.


He gave a speech in South Africa where he was bragging about how great he was in recognizing apartheid before the country he represents did.  I wonder if the audiences there are amused/sickened with how full of himself he is.  There's rarely a positive thing in his blah blah that isn't self referential.

Posted by: Captain Hate at July 01, 2013 05:41 AM (OYrny)

23 Burn it down. Scatter the stones. Salt the earth where it stood.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 01, 2013 05:41 AM (/PCJa)

24

"This Is Why You Shouldn't Keep Naked Photos Of Yourself On Your Phone"

 

"Robson had hoped to alert his bosses and PA execs to what happened by taking photos of the cars and e-mailing the images with his company-issued BlackBerry, sources said."

 

"Robson somehow attached another snapshot stored on the cellphone — showing him inside a car, “waist down, naked penis out, belly and all,” according to one source."

 

His penis had a beer  belly. Mine  too. That's what I mean when I tell  women  I  have a "fat penis."  It's not my fault they misinterpret it.

 

 

Posted by: CJ at July 01, 2013 05:41 AM (9KqcB)

25 How badly injured do you have to be before you can fight back?
Well, it's the Christian thing to do, turn the other check and all that, tolerance and forgiveness you see? But Christians are evil people who want to deny non believers their rights and stuff, which is different than what the followers of the Prophet Mohammed want to do because . . uh well it's different

So, ya, Christians are supposed to be forgiving. And liberals would be able to negotiate a solution agreeable to everyone except in those cases where the police have to intervene. Those cases it should be up to the courts to decide what is just, and fair and stuff.

So the best thing to do is just don't go to those places where you might get into a fight, unless you need to buy drugs, and then there is a protocol to follow.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at July 01, 2013 05:42 AM (ohkgS)

26 The USDA rabbit regulators need to be raped to death, and after we have eaten their flesh their hides can be used to make shelters for the rabbits.

Posted by: SpongeBob ReaverSaget at July 01, 2013 05:42 AM (kxSZr)

27 I Guess News Anchors Can Ignore News If They Claim To Have Not Heard About It Never heard of it.

Posted by: Charlie Gibson at July 01, 2013 05:42 AM (/PCJa)

28 Bob Scheiffer? Hmm ....

Posted by: Charlie Gibson at July 01, 2013 05:43 AM (bS6uW)

29 Well. We know Allen doesn't read the comments before commenting.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at July 01, 2013 05:44 AM (/kI1Q)

30 My USDA rabbit license requirement has taken another ridiculous twist. I just received an 8 page letter from the USDA, telling me that by July 29 I need to have in place a written disaster plan, detailing all the steps I would take to help get my rabbit through a disaster, such as a tornado, fire, flood, etc. They not only want to know how I will protect my rabbit during a disaster, but also what I will do after the disaster, to make sure my rabbit gets cared for properly. I am not kidding–before the end of July I need to have this written rabbit disaster plan in place, or I am breaking the law. Stew.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 01, 2013 05:44 AM (GjYxB)

31 >>> There's rarely a positive thing in his blah blah that isn't self referential. Are you stating that it is less than 100%? I challenge you to come up with an example, right after you come up with a disaster plan for the insects in your yard.

Posted by: fluffy at July 01, 2013 05:44 AM (z9HTb)

32 “The agent identified herself as a police officer and was displaying her badge,” agency spokeswoman Kathleen Shaw said in a statement. “The agents were acting upon reasonable suspicion.” Why did this require some massive sting operation? A college kid buying beer? Who'd have thunk? They couldn't have intercepted her before she got to the car, identified themselves calmly, and asked to see what she'd bought? Fuck the police-state.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 01, 2013 05:45 AM (/PCJa)

33
Just in time for the Fourth of July, a new hike in the California gas tax is kicking in Monday.

Prices are going up 3.5 cents. California drivers were already paying 36 cents a gallon in state taxes, but the hike means drivers will pay 39.5 cents. Including the other local, state and federal taxes, California drivers will be paying 72 cents in taxes on each gallon alone.

Former California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger in 2010 signed a fuel tax swap law, which makes certain state gas tax revenues remain the same annually. Since gas consumption has been down over the last couple of years, according to lawmakers, the excise tax has to go up to offset the decrease.





Republicans ladies and gentlemen.  The party of fiscal conservatives.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 01, 2013 05:45 AM (kdS6q)

34

This aggression will not stand

 

 

man

Posted by: Bigb'y Lebowski at July 01, 2013 05:45 AM (3ZtZW)

35 Student Loan interest rates double today because the Senate failed to take up the extension of current rates passed by the House.

Posted by: #OccupyTheWhiteHouse at July 01, 2013 05:46 AM (e8kgV)

36 Draw up some ACME Co. blueprints for rabbit escape boats, hot air balloons, rocket ships, etc. and ask the regulator if that'll be all.

Posted by: Lincolntf at July 01, 2013 05:46 AM (ZshNr)

37 Fuck the police-state. Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 01, 2013 09:45 AM (/PCJa) It's For The Children(TM). Are you against The Children(TM)?!?!?

Posted by: HoboJerky, Hash Hunter at July 01, 2013 05:47 AM (X4HxX)

38 Police Terrorize College Girl Because They Thought She Bought Alcohol Holy crap. Six plainclothes cops surrounded her and one jumped on her hood with a gun drawn when all she had done was buy water and cookie dough?! The cops have gone full-on Stasi in this country.

Posted by: Charlie Gibson at July 01, 2013 05:48 AM (bS6uW)

39 The re-enactment for the 150th anniversary of the battle of Gettsburg sounds amazing. We've visited Gettysburg several times, and the best way to see it is to hire a historian - they are available for hire at the visitor center, but you have to get there right when it opens to catch one.

Anyone surprised that Obama is our of town for this pivotal event in US history, but he managed to squeeze in a a reminder of slavery during his trip to Senegal? He only wants to highlight the bad things about America, none of the good.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 01, 2013 05:49 AM (2mSdf)

40 Somebody doubled your interest rates!  Who did?  Democrats!

Posted by: toby928© rants populist at July 01, 2013 05:49 AM (codCi)

41 triple-digit temperatures, low humidity

This is what they use to sell Arizona

Posted by: Barry "In Your Heart You Know He's Right" Goldwater at July 01, 2013 05:50 AM (e8kgV)

42 Posted by: HoboJerky, Hash Hunter at July 01, 2013 09:47 AM (X4HxX) I know that was sarcasm, so consider this a sarcastic nut-punch.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 01, 2013 05:50 AM (/PCJa)

43 38 Charlie Gibson,

Your socks need cleaning.

Yup, the cops were there to interdict the deadly Hydroxide and cookie dough....

pretty amazing response time in that home invasion in New Jersey eh?

Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at July 01, 2013 05:50 AM (LRFds)

44 the best way to see it is to hire a historian

Do they have a "Rent -a- Handicapped" service to get to the head of the lines like in DisneyLand ?

Posted by: Roger O. Thornhill at July 01, 2013 05:51 AM (e8kgV)

45 Six plainclothes cops surrounded her and one jumped on her hood with a gun drawn when all she had done was buy water and cookie dough?!

That gives me an idea, fatties.

Posted by: Mrs SCOAMF at July 01, 2013 05:51 AM (/kI1Q)

46 Nineteen AZ Firefighters Killed Battling Blaze; Loony Left Blames Global Warming, Of Course



I blame the left who do not allow trimming and brush clearing.  But wouldn't it be nice if we scoop those watermelons up in the big helicopter lifted water buckets and dump them in the fire.

Posted by: Vic at July 01, 2013 05:52 AM (lZvxr)

47 Sounds like the ABC officers were a fucking mob. They are professionals, of a sort, with fucking guns out, and they don't realize the woman is trying to turn her key so she can open power windows and ask wtf? And then they start trying to bash in her windows, so she takes off in a panic, brushing a cop. That cop and that women could've very easily ended up dead. Heads must roll. But they won't.

Posted by: Lincolntf at July 01, 2013 05:52 AM (ZshNr)

48

ESPN Compilation Video Of Soldiers Surprising Their Family Members At Sporting Events

 

I watched that last night.   Had me in tears.    Very touching.

 

 

Where Are The Boys?

 

 

Do not -- I repeat, DO NOT -- get me started on this.   There's a reason I'm         an out and proud      misogynist, and the sidelining and diminishment of boys and men     in American culture        is      a    major reason.      It is one of the subjects that makes my blood boil.     The callous disregard for the   future of our boys      demonstrated by those in positions of power,   particularly idiot women who pretend to care about ALL children,        is     unforgivable.     If I'm ever blessed with children, I pray at least one of them is a son so I can teach him that he has worth.

 

 

I Guess News Anchors Can Ignore News If They Claim To Have Not Heard About It

 

 

You mean Bob Schieffer isn't dead yet?     Why not?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at July 01, 2013 05:52 AM (4df7R)

49 OT: I've got range ammo just fine. The issue is I have no idea how to find decent self-defense ammo that's in stock at stores. If I buy online, I pay out the ass for shipping for ~25 cartridges. Any strategies to get any at reasonable prices? Or should I just suck it up and pay the extra to have some on hand.

Posted by: HoboJerky, Hash Hunter at July 01, 2013 05:53 AM (X4HxX)

50 Hmmmm...gas prices...paid $3.49 for 91 octane NO ethanol gasoline on Saturday here in Tulsa. Sinclair has a refinery in Cushing, Oklahoma that refines American oil.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at July 01, 2013 05:53 AM (LZi/r)

51 Shitty Sheiffer hasn't heard about the lawsuits because he only follows the news from liberal crap on AP and Reuters.

Posted by: Vic at July 01, 2013 05:54 AM (lZvxr)

52 The re-enactment for the 150th anniversary of the battle of Gettsburg sounds amazing. We've visited Gettysburg several times

George Will had a piece a few years ago about visitors to Gettsburg complaining that there weren't any bullet holes in the monumnets.
They were also amazed that so many battles were fought on park land.

Posted by: Roger O. Thornhill at July 01, 2013 05:54 AM (e8kgV)

53 Speaking of irrational orthodoxies, there is that hand-maiden of destruction called Global Warming.  What can't it do?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 01, 2013 05:54 AM (aB+tO)

54

Where Are The Boys?

 

I hand out diplomas at the  graduation ceremonies of our two  local high schools.

 

The one school with  high minority enrollment  has students  receive their diploma by gender, female student, then male, then female, etc...

 

This year, when the last male student had received his diploma, there were 27 more females left in  their line. The whole arena  noticed  as the ceremony had turned into a female-only affair  for several minutes.

 

The disparity in education outcomes between boys and girls was laid bare.

Posted by: CJ at July 01, 2013 05:55 AM (9KqcB)

55

Police Terrorize College Girl Because They Thought She Bought Alcohol

 

 

Can someone explain to me how    a case of     bottled water even remotely resembles alcohol?  

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at July 01, 2013 05:55 AM (4df7R)

56 The poor college student swarmed by plain clothes ABC agents had just attended a self-defense/protect yourself against rapists-type event the night before, so she and her friend were on high alert for attacks.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 01, 2013 05:55 AM (2mSdf)

57 >>> If I'm ever blessed with children, I pray at least one of them is a son so I can teach him that he has worth. Unfortunately, you can't do it properly. You would have to delegate that. Choose wisely.

Posted by: fluffy at July 01, 2013 05:55 AM (z9HTb)

58 On the Zimmerman trial what I see is a lynching by FL legal assholes.  There should be some people disbarred and prosecuted here beginning with the AG.

Posted by: Vic at July 01, 2013 05:55 AM (lZvxr)

59 Remember that Spanish, French, Portuguese, and Italian all have their roots in Latin. At some point, those were all different dialects based largely on geography and culture.
===========
(and Romanian--it's a Romance Language too.)

I would argue that such was only possible because there was general illiteracy. That is, they couldn't see or read the correct spelling and went with how it sounds.

I'm probably wrong. Though I do recall on of my Latin professors saying a lot of the difference between Portuguese and Spanish was the swapping of and pronunciation of vowels.

Another interesting note or two: The British of the 1700's would have sounded more like people from Boston, not like they do today.* Also, I recall there is a recording of King Edward (I think) where he is dropping his g's. Something like "Mornin' Going huntin' today?"

*Which, if you've seen it, the renditions of Shakespear in the accurate dialect of the time actually makes it more understandable and it rhymes a lot better.

Posted by: RoyalOil at July 01, 2013 05:56 AM (VjL9S)

60 Regarding this Gang of 8 immigration bill, I understand that a bill can originate in either branch of Congress.  But the Senate has had this reputation of being this great deliberative body where things take forever to do because they hash things out over a long period of time.  Nothing could be further from reality when it comes to this bloated piece of shit which, like BammyCare, has a shit ton of things in it that have never been commented upon by members or probably even be read by the vast majority of Senate things.  Why the fuck didn't McConnell, whom I generally support, put the brakes on this thing for what I've written?

Posted by: Captain Hate at July 01, 2013 05:56 AM (OYrny)

61 Hey EC - http://en.bijin-snap.com/2013/07/01/no-943/

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 01, 2013 05:57 AM (aB+tO)

62 Cut government in half. All levels. Then cut in half again. Keep on until citizens scream. Then cut it a little more. Or make the rubble bounce. I just don't care anymore.

Posted by: backhoe at July 01, 2013 05:57 AM (ULH4o)

63

The re-enactment for the 150th anniversary of the battle of Gettsburg sounds amazing. We've visited Gettysburg several times, and the best way to see it is to hire a historian - they are available for hire at the visitor center, but you have to get there right when it opens to catch one.

 

 

Gettysburg is fascinating.   I had a chance to go there for a second time back in May when I was down in PA for my sister's graduation.    It never fails to give me goosebumps.     I wish I could be there for the reenactment, but    in a way I'm glad I got to see it when the crowds were still relatively thin.  Like any battlefield, I find     I appreciate it best in solitary contemplation.  

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at July 01, 2013 05:58 AM (4df7R)

64 That is, they couldn't see or read the correct spelling and went with how it sounds. Posted by: RoyalOil at July 01, 2013 09:56 AM (VjL9S) I don't think so. Or it's at least debated. “It is a damn poor mind that can think of only one way to spell a word.” ― Andrew Jackson

Posted by: HoboJerky, Hash Hunter at July 01, 2013 05:58 AM (X4HxX)

65 *Ugh*
"Egyptian media reported Sunday that a Dutch journalist was raped by several men in CairoÂ’s Tahrir Square a few days ago.Dina Zakaria, a journalist reporting for the “Egypt 25″ news channel affiliated with the January 25 revolution, shared the incident on her Facebook page Sunday: “A Dutch journalist in Tahrir was raped by men who dub themselves revolutionists. Her condition is severe and she is hospitalized.”

Glad they had a huge protest against Morsi but it's still unsafe.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 01, 2013 05:59 AM (2mSdf)

66 Can someone explain to me how a case of bottled water even remotely resembles alcohol? You want the real explanation, or the explanation those officers put in their report?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 01, 2013 05:59 AM (/PCJa)

67 “I don't see any use in having a uniform and arbitrary way of spelling words. We might as well make all clothes alike and cook all dishes alike. Sameness is tiresome; variety is pleasing.” ― Mark Twain

Posted by: HoboJerky, Hash Hunter at July 01, 2013 05:59 AM (X4HxX)

68 "I know smart things! And I don't have to steal from books like Julian!"

Posted by: Ricky at July 01, 2013 06:00 AM (ZshNr)

69 “It's Asian, you can spell it however you like!” ― Maggie Brandon Very true with Romanized Chinese. A million different ways people spell things.

Posted by: HoboJerky, Hash Hunter at July 01, 2013 06:01 AM (X4HxX)

70 Bob Schieffer saying. "I never heard of that..."  How dare that son-of-a-bitch!  That's my line. If he thinks he can move in on my territory... well, I'll start pretending I haven't heard of even more things that go against the narrative than he can ever think of!

Posted by: Charlie Gibson at July 01, 2013 06:01 AM (VDovR)

71

pretty amazing response time in that home invasion in New Jersey eh?

 

When seconds count, the police are too busy scaring the shit out of women who like cookie dough to bother.

Posted by: Armando at July 01, 2013 06:01 AM (5iuEW)

72 Peiping or Peiking or Beijing...  all the same town in China.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 01, 2013 06:02 AM (aB+tO)

73 Why I am still not quite for gay marriage, and why I consider Anthony Kennedy an enemy of popular sovereignty and constitutional republicanism: *If* the argument for "marriage equality" is so obvious, so able to eviscerate the arguments of opponents, then advocates should be able to point me to the "Second Treatises on Government", the "Federalist Papers", the "Common Sense" pamphlets on the issue. Where are they? I do not say they cannot be written. I do say I don't believe they have. And as to the extent that advocates have relied on brute force conquest (via courts) vice conquest via arguments made to a democratically-enabled people, the movement is illegitimate. Gay marriage is not about "equality", as if it was obvious that something someone had a right to was being denied. Nonsense. That would be the case if a woman and man were being denied the right to marry because, of say, race (slaves could not officially marry in the antebellum period). It is about expanding ways of thinking so as to expand the idea of what something could be. Of making marriage being about the idea of souls linked than man and women linked. (ignoring for the moment marriage is a linkage in part designed for purely utilitarian, non-romantic purposes). What advocates are doing is focusing on getting the results desired via the path of least political resistance, but are doing violence to many concepts along the way. Not the least of which is that processes happen in a republic by letting the people devide, and that things must be done by having "a decent respect for the opinions of mankind." Justice Kennedy may strongly believe as he does, but I don't think he could actually put together a pamphlet on the reasons why that didn't rely on emotional arguments ("humiliation"), or that was overly long. And the reason why that is bad is that if you are going to rule society as a philosopher-king, you need to be as much the first as the second.

Posted by: T. at July 01, 2013 06:03 AM (zJ6tJ)

74 Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at July 01, 2013 09:58 AM (4df7R)

Agreed. It's especially fun to trek up to little round top to get an idea of that particular battle. I also went on a tour by horseback during my  visit, so we were able to actually ride across the field of Pickett's charge.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 01, 2013 06:03 AM (2mSdf)

75 Honestly, even if she had a case of Jack Daniel's, what's with the full-on "Tactical Strike Force, swarm, swarm, swarm!!," approach? If you're too late to get to her before she gets in the car, pull her over when she pulls out. It's not like she has fucking hostages.

Posted by: Ricky at July 01, 2013 06:04 AM (ZshNr)

76 Sock off.

Posted by: Lincolntf at July 01, 2013 06:04 AM (ZshNr)

77 So, the Trademarks are going to get up on the stand and ID the voice as Trademark jr. Daddy of course, initially denied it was his sons voice but later changed his mind after coaching.

Posted by: waldo at July 01, 2013 06:05 AM (hc19V)

78 The re-enactment for the 150th anniversary of the battle of Gettsburg sounds amazing. You'd think they'd let us win once in awhile.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 01, 2013 06:05 AM (GjYxB)

79

>>>>Cut government in half. All levels. Then cut in half again. Keep on until citizens scream. Then cut it a little more.

 

Xeno-archy

Posted by: Bigb'y Lebowski at July 01, 2013 06:06 AM (3ZtZW)

80 You'd think they'd let us win once in awhile. Posted by: rickb223 at July 01, 2013 10:05 AM (GjYxB) 150 years and counting. USA! USA! USA!

Posted by: HoboJerky, Hash Hunter at July 01, 2013 06:06 AM (X4HxX)

81 Egyptian media reported Sunday that a Dutch journalist was raped by several men in CairoÂ’s Tahrir Square a few days ago. They sure love them some sexual assault in that part of the world.

Posted by: Blacksheep at July 01, 2013 06:06 AM (bS6uW)

82 I understand that there were forty rapes during the Cairo demonstrations.  War on women.

In other news, my seventeen year old daughter bawled me out for referring to Muslims as "kill crazy lunatics."

Posted by: WalrusRex at July 01, 2013 06:08 AM (Hx5uv)

83 Thanks Anna!

Posted by: EC at July 01, 2013 06:08 AM (GQ8sn)

84 These were the idiots who spread the meme that their kid was laying in the morgue unidentified for 3 days. Truth: One hour after the father reported him missing to the police, the police went to him with a photo and had the kid ID's. The autopsy was completed that day or the next and then the body was released to the family and the undertaker, who they claimed was a coroner/medical examiner, picked the body up and took it back to Miami.

Posted by: waldo at July 01, 2013 06:08 AM (hc19V)

85

For more on language and dialects, you may use the Amazon search box on the main page of this very blog to find several books and DVDs by John McWhorter.

Posted by: Mama AJ at July 01, 2013 06:08 AM (SUKHu)

86 >>> Honestly, even if she had a case of Jack Daniel's, what's with the full-on "Tactical Strike Force, swarm, swarm, swarm!!," approach? I suspect these ABC enforcement officers (or whatever they are call in VA) were all hopped up on the notion of acting "like real cops", whatever that may mean. Twenty year old college girls, very brave. How about you crash the door at a biker-owned meth lab, Hero?

Posted by: fluffy at July 01, 2013 06:09 AM (z9HTb)

87 Police Terrorize College Girl Because They Thought She Bought Alcohol Dat's retardit, Suh.

Posted by: Dee Dee at July 01, 2013 06:09 AM (7ObY1)

88 How Much Injury Is Required Before Self-Defense Is Justified Now they've gone right over the edge. I think the prosecution sees that this case is lost and their grasping at straws, even ludicrous ones, to try to stay above water.

Posted by: zsasz at July 01, 2013 06:09 AM (MMC8r)

89 So they were burning photos of our Ambassador Ann Patterson at the protest in Egypt. Understandable considering that she told the Copts to SD STFU, but has Obama put another Ambassador and embassy at risk of attack?
Think Obama even realizes this or is he too busy touring Africa with his family to get his daily national security briefings....

Posted by: Lizzy at July 01, 2013 06:09 AM (2mSdf)

90 Meanwhile the survivors of Sandy Hook are still debating how best to distribute the donations.  And being good little collectivists some are arguing for a national compassion fund. The debate still rages on how and why of the $11.4 million given to the United Way only $7.7 million will be distributed.

http://tinyurl.com/lsrc798

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 01, 2013 06:09 AM (aB+tO)

91 “I don't see any use in having a uniform and arbitrary way of spelling words. We might as well make all clothes alike and cook all dishes alike. Sameness is tiresome; variety is pleasing.”
― Mark Twain

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Phook ewe.

Posted by: WalrusRex at July 01, 2013 06:10 AM (Hx5uv)

92 Agreed. It's especially fun to trek up to little round top to get an idea of that particular battle. I also went on a tour by horseback during my visit, so we were able to actually ride across the field of Pickett's charge.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 01, 2013 10:03 AM (2mSdf)

 

Both times I've visited I've made it a    point to make the little hike to the flanking position where Chamberlain and the      20th Maine were situated     on     Little Round Top.      Call it a New Englander thing, but I've always had a soft spot for the 20th Maine.

 

This last time I was also able to get some great pictures of the NH monument,   down in the Devil's Den/Wheatfield   area.   It's a big granite boulder on top of a bunch of    other granite boulders,   commemorating the men of the 5th New Hampshire who were killed and wounded during the battle.      Made my heart twinge.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at July 01, 2013 06:10 AM (4df7R)

93 As to my above-- Why making arguments, as Progressives are wont, based upon emotion and denigration and ostracism, is dangerous is that a demagogue can take that and run. Arguments in a constitutional republic have simply got to be more than the "emotional visceral", because a Hitler can have a field day if that is all the people know.

Posted by: T. at July 01, 2013 06:10 AM (zJ6tJ)

94 "They couldn't have intercepted her before she got to the car, identified themselves calmly, and asked to see what she'd bought? Fuck the police-state." -AllenG Or, just a thought, they could've done absolutely nothing at all since the thugs had zero evidence of anything that should cause them to suspect, much less terrorize, a citizen going about her legitimate business.

Posted by: mindful webworker, your servant at July 01, 2013 06:10 AM (AMsS5)

95 Honestly, even if she had a case of Jack Daniel's, what's with the full-on "Tactical Strike Force, swarm, swarm, swarm!!," approach? Exactly. 1) They didn't know she had alcohol (they couldn't, since she didn't). 2) They didn't know she was under-age. So they assumed both of those things to be true. But I want to get back to the point: "how do you mistake bottled water for an alcoholic beverage?" And the answer is: you don't. I'm guessing the plain-clothes officers knew (or suspected) that college kids like to buy beer from that store. Possibly because the store didn't card like it was supposed to. So they hung out at the store on party night to see what would happen. When this girl and her friends came in, they heard the girls talking about "this is going to be a great party!" or something, and assumed what she'd be buying was beer. Because of that assumption, they paid no attention to what she actually bought, and only to whether or not she was carded. When she wasn't (because she wasn't buying beer), they assumed. Now, even that doesn't explain the "swarm, swarm, swarm!" thing. What *would* explain that is if this was a "trouble" store that did this frequently. One employee failing to card one student isn't enough to get the license yanked (probably), but if you terrorize the student into saying, "yeah, we all come here for our beer because they never card us!" well, then you've got more options to deal with the store itself.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 01, 2013 06:11 AM (/PCJa)

96

If its any  comfort  and its probably not,  other than the Presidency , which has always been in the limelight,  these other over the top law enforcement, political travesties have been occurring since the beginning of our Republic  at    basically  the  same  frequency  without   the  fanfare.   They just haven't been  vetted  nationally like they are now because of the internet.   

 

 

 

 

Posted by: polynikes at July 01, 2013 06:13 AM (m2CN7)

97 In other news, my seventeen year old daughter bawled me out for referring to Muslims as "kill crazy lunatics." But, but, they're just like you and I ... sure they dress differently but they have a proud and dignified culture (well, except for all the rapes and beheadings), and they invented the zero! Fucking savages living centuries out of step with the rest of the world.

Posted by: Blacksheep at July 01, 2013 06:13 AM (bS6uW)

98 Sending women reporters to cover demonstrations in areas where women's rights aren't respected is just fucking stupid.  You don't have to agree with the country's mores and attitudes so much as take them into account when making assignments and arranging for security.  For all their yammering about respecting "diversity", the MFM is about as ignorant as you can get.

Posted by: Captain Hate at July 01, 2013 06:14 AM (OYrny)

99 Since our Secretary of State has left Israel for Asia and our President is on a safari in Africa, has anyone of this administration said anything in regards to what is going on in Egypt now?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 01, 2013 06:14 AM (aB+tO)

100 This is just a keyboard test. My wife suggested that I could shit the door. I queried if a mini-replica would suffice. Carry on with your high-fallutin' talk.

Posted by: fluffy at July 01, 2013 06:15 AM (z9HTb)

101 Or, just a thought, they could've done absolutely nothing at all since the thugs had zero evidence of anything that should cause them to suspect, much less terrorize, a citizen going about her legitimate business. I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt that they actually thought she'd bought beer. Nothing about that part of it (beyond- really? You mistake bottled water for beer?) is so out of bounds that I'd be angry if they'd simply said, "Miss? We're with the ABC, can you open your bag for us please?" And then, if she'd said "no" they would have had to get a warrant, etc.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 01, 2013 06:15 AM (/PCJa)

102 >>In other news, my seventeen year old daughter bawled me out for referring to Muslims as "kill crazy lunatics."

Uh, maybe she needs to visit the Jihadwatch site. How else would one refer to a religion where its adherents regularly BEHEAD non-believers, sanction rape and "honor" killings, etc.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 01, 2013 06:15 AM (2mSdf)

103 99 Since our Secretary of State has left Israel for Asia and our President is on a safari in Africa, has anyone of this administration said anything in regards to what is going on in Egypt now? Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 01, 2013 10:14 AM (aB+tO) With any luck, SCOAMF will roll up in Tahir square.

Posted by: baldilocks at July 01, 2013 06:16 AM (jFJtl)

104 Now, even that doesn't explain the "swarm, swarm, swarm!" thing. What *would* explain that is if this was a "trouble" store that did this frequently. One employee failing to card one student isn't enough to get the license yanked (probably), but if you terrorize the student into saying, "yeah, we all come here for our beer because they never card us!" well, then you've got more options to deal with the store itself.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 01, 2013 10:11 AM (/PCJa)

 

 

It makes zero sense.   I know a little about how the Liquour Commission up here in NH works, and it is NOTHING like this.   They have all the powers of a sheriff,    but I've not once heard of this kind of swarming    sting operation on a single individual.   They'll    go to parties where   there have been reports of underage drinking, and they'll   conduct regular   "test buys" at alcohol    licensees to try and spot and stop problem sellers.    But this kind of SWAT mentality?   Not the guys and girls I know.

 

Either it's vastly different where this happened, or the police state has just decided to take the   mask off and go full retahd.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at July 01, 2013 06:17 AM (4df7R)

105 In other news, my seventeen year old daughter bawled me out for referring to Muslims as "kill crazy lunatics." Uh, maybe she needs to visit the Jihadwatch site. How else would one refer to a religion where its adherents regularly BEHEAD non-believers, sanction rape and "honor" killings, etc. Yeah, does she know that the Kill Crazy Lunatics routinely stone the victims of rape for the crime of getting raped?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 01, 2013 06:17 AM (/PCJa)

106 When this girl and her friends came in, they heard the girls talking about "this is going to be a great party!" or something, and assumed what she'd be buying was beer. Because of that assumption, they paid no attention to what she actually bought, and only to whether or not she was carded. When she wasn't (because she wasn't buying beer), they assumed. Because water is packaged like beer in 12 & 24 packs in cardboard. Or something.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 01, 2013 06:17 AM (GjYxB)

107 I am serious, it seems this administration is avoiding the limelight.  Which is atypical of them.  Unless they already know Morsi is going down or assume he will, so are avoiding more bad optics.  While forgetting by not saying anything they are showing how irrelevant they are to what is really going on in Egypt.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 01, 2013 06:18 AM (aB+tO)

108 Sending women reporters to cover demonstrations in areas where women's rights aren't respected     many women, including reporters, have been raped and brutalized in just the last year alone     is just fucking stupid. You don't have to agree with the country's mores and attitudes so much as take them into account when making assignments and arranging for security. For all their yammering about respecting "diversity", the MFM is about as ignorant as you can get.

Posted by: Captain Hate at July 01, 2013 10:14 AM (OYrny)

 

 

FIFY.

 

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at July 01, 2013 06:18 AM (4df7R)

109 Re: Where are the boys?
For those of you who are parents of young boys, or have young grandchildren, I would recommend seeking, buying, and gifting to the kids, books in the American tradition that were printed prior to 1960 or so. Otherwise, the boys are just not going to be exposed to traditional knowledge.

In particular, I would recommend any of the 'The Childhood of Famous Americans Series' published by Bobbs-Merrill. Those are suitable for any child who can read, up through age 10 or 12.
Here is a list of titles : http://www.gunjones.com/childhood.html

Where to find them is another matter. I generally buy used books off of Ebay, or via Bookfinder.com  Some are available in reprint.

Very high on my list of books for nephews and etc. are the TWO volumes of Popular Mechanics "The Boy Mechanic" . Those are chock-full of little projects that used to be the 'stuff' that boys did. I believe that those may be available in re-print pretty cheaply. I am NOT sure that they are 100% of the originals. Original hardbacks are a little pricey, but may be found via Bookfinder.com

Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 01, 2013 06:19 AM (aDwsi)

110 Repeating sock puppet jokes?
Never heard of it.

Posted by: charlie gibson at July 01, 2013 06:19 AM (9+vDU)

111 Either it's vastly different where this happened, or the police state has just decided to take the mask off and go full retahd. Well, honestly I agree with one of the earlier commenters. These guys (and one woman) were going to show that they were "real cops, too" and so went full Barney Fife. I wonder how long it took them to get the one bullet (each) in their guns?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 01, 2013 06:19 AM (/PCJa)

112 "visitors to Gettsburg complaining that there weren't any bullet holes in the monumnets. They were also amazed that so many battles were fought on park land." -Roger O. Thornhill They're just not thinking 4th-Dimensionally!

Posted by: Prof. E. W. Brown at July 01, 2013 06:19 AM (MBZW0)

113 Yeah, does she know that the Kill Crazy Lunatics routinely stone the victims of rape for the crime of getting raped? Those whores knew the risks. /Moderate Muslim Cleric

Posted by: Blacksheep at July 01, 2013 06:20 AM (bS6uW)

114 Either it's vastly different where this happened, or the police state has just decided to take the mask off and go full retahd.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at July 01, 2013 10:17 AM (4df7R)



The entire state may have gone full retard; after all they elected Tim Kaine to the Senate.

Posted by: Captain Hate at July 01, 2013 06:20 AM (OYrny)

115 This is just a keyboard test. My wife suggested that I could shit the door. Shit the door? Keyboard: Fail.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 01, 2013 06:20 AM (GjYxB)

116 Because water is packaged like beer in 12 & 24 packs in cardboard. Or something.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 01, 2013 10:17 AM (GjYxB)

 

I know, right?      I can totally see how a 24 pack of Poland Spring or Dasani would look like a 24 pack of Keystone or Heineken.  

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at July 01, 2013 06:20 AM (4df7R)

117 Hopefully that did brighten your day that link EC.

*pokes the Camp NanoWriMo page which seems to be deader than Nasser*

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 01, 2013 06:21 AM (aB+tO)

118 Didn't Obama recently cut back the number of fire tanker airplanes in the west?

Posted by: Ed Anger at July 01, 2013 06:21 AM (tOkJB)

119 Yeah, does she know that the Kill Crazy Lunatics routinely stone the victims of rape for the crime of getting raped? And slit clits?

Posted by: rickb223 at July 01, 2013 06:21 AM (GjYxB)

120 Unless they already know Morsi is going down or assume he will, so are avoiding more bad optics. They're kind of in a Catch-22, here. If they support Morsi (whether he survives or not), then they're suddenly against Egyptian Democracy when they were so hot for it before. If they support the protestors, then they're turning on the guy they supported. So, for them, the best option is just to stay silent and pretend like it's not happening.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 01, 2013 06:21 AM (/PCJa)

121 I am serious, it seems this administration is avoiding the limelight. Which is atypical of them. Unless they already know Morsi is going down or assume he will, so are avoiding more bad optics. While forgetting by not saying anything they are showing how irrelevant they are to what is really going on in Egypt.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 01, 2013 10:18 AM (aB+tO)

 

 

If Obammy or any of his underlings were to comment on what's going on in Egypt, the MFM would be forced to give it more than fleeting coverage.    So I expect the "administration" will keep it's    trap shut until the results of the protests are a foregone conclusion.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at July 01, 2013 06:22 AM (4df7R)

122 Was this alcohol control agency facing a budget review?

Posted by: zsasz at July 01, 2013 06:22 AM (MMC8r)

123 >In other news, my seventeen year old daughter bawled me out for referring to Muslims as "kill crazy lunatics." tell her about clitorectomy

Posted by: Jones in CO at July 01, 2013 06:23 AM (8sCoq)

124 I know, right? I can totally see how a 24 pack of Poland Spring or Dasani would look like a 24 pack of Keystone or Heineken. Eh, tomato, tomahto. Either way, the only rational response is to mount the hood of a moving vehicle with your gun drawn and escalate the situation to eleven.

Posted by: Blacksheep at July 01, 2013 06:23 AM (bS6uW)

125 AllenG never stopped this conspiracy of dunces before.  Iran and the Green Revolution.  Lets face it, once again this administration is acting stupidly.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 01, 2013 06:23 AM (aB+tO)

126 107 Anna Puma,

Our gifting them billions in defense kit is not really a lack of influence so much as a self-defeating one.

The rule of "good/same/worse" says we have F-16s and other kit to people who may be more crazy the next try at a functioning National Government.

I'm starting to evolve past any belief in fostering anyone in "nation building" at this point.  I can't see why I am bothered by "Egypt" the nation next to Israel and near Libya being as rendered or breaking into smaller nations, or being an anarchial hellhole of city states.  What is bothering me is that we are arming sets of ever zanier thugs to be better armed thugs.

Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at July 01, 2013 06:23 AM (LRFds)

127 >>Since our Secretary of State has left Israel for Asia and our President is on a safari in Africa, has anyone of this administration said anything in regards to what is going on in Egypt now? Why would they? The msm isn't even bothering to report on it. Biggest political protest in a long, long time and our betters in the press can't even be bothered to talk about it because it hurts the narrative.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 01, 2013 06:23 AM (g1DWB)

128 They were also amazed that so many battles were fought on park land." -Roger O. Thornhill How dare them! I'll bet they didn't even clean up after themselves!

Posted by: rickb223 at July 01, 2013 06:23 AM (GjYxB)

129 Didn't Obama recently cut back the number of fire tanker airplanes in the west?

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It was either that or cut back on Michelle's bikini waxes.

Posted by: WalrusRex at July 01, 2013 06:24 AM (Hx5uv)

130 Maybe Susan Rice and Rodham have gotten NSA to search for the video causing the anti-Morsi demonstrations.

Posted by: Captain Hate at July 01, 2013 06:24 AM (OYrny)

131 Eh, tomato, tomahto. Either way, the only rational response is to mount the hood of a moving vehicle with your gun drawn and escalate the situation to eleven.

Posted by: Blacksheep at July 01, 2013 10:23 AM (bS6uW)

 

 

Absolutely.    Every LEO I've ever heard speak on the subject has said that, in one way or another.    "When you're in a dicey situation, your best bet is to escalate, escalate, escalate."

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at July 01, 2013 06:24 AM (4df7R)

132 120 Allen G,

We're on it!(ignoring shit Ogabe doesn't want reported!)

//MSDNC

Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at July 01, 2013 06:25 AM (LRFds)

133 Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 01, 2013 10:19 AM (aDwsi)

Thanks for the book recommendation!

As for the "where are the boys" question, you can find a lot of them at my son's private school (grades 2-12). It specializes in non-traditional teaching methods for intelligent kids who just don't excel in public schools. The elementary school is over 90% boys.

The best part is that they let boys be boys. At a recent poetry reading for my son's 4th grade class, he and his fellow classmates read their poems about archery, building rockets, crime scene investigation, and more. And no one freaked out - imagine that!

Posted by: Lizzy at July 01, 2013 06:25 AM (2mSdf)

134 Call it a New Englander thing, but I've always had a soft spot for the 20th Maine. Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at July 01, 2013 10:10 AM (4df7R) Ayuh!!

Posted by: Mainah at July 01, 2013 06:25 AM (659DL)

135 So, for them, the best option is just to stay silent and pretend like it's not happening. Posted by: AllenG
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AKA voting 'Present'

Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 01, 2013 06:26 AM (aDwsi)

136 Ayuh!!

Posted by: Mainah at July 01, 2013 10:25 AM (659DL)

 

 

*fist    bump!*

 

 

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at July 01, 2013 06:26 AM (4df7R)

137 RE: GZ trial

Hey, I can see Greta sitting in the court gallery.

Posted by: Serious Cat at July 01, 2013 06:28 AM (UypUQ)

138 GOOD NEWS


Former CNN morning show host Soledad O’Brien will be joining Al Jazeera America as a special correspondent, the network announced Monday. O’Brien will contribute short-form segments to Al Jazeera America’s current affairs magazine program “America Tonight,” and her production company Starfish Media Group will produce hour-long documentary specials.

Posted by: Bernie at July 01, 2013 06:28 AM (e8kgV)

139 When Obammy talks about the "rot of corruption   in Africa," do you think he's actually talking about the smell of     reeking garbage he must have encountered    in that    tourist trap of a        "slave site?"

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at July 01, 2013 06:30 AM (4df7R)

140 Shit the door?
Keyboard: Fail.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 01, 2013 10:20 AM (GjYxB)

 

-- OWS practice?

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at July 01, 2013 06:31 AM (R8hU8)

141 Soledad OÂ’Brien will be joining Al Jazeera America as a special correspondent It's not like she'll need a lot of training, coming over from CNN and all. Racial bigotry and anti-American slant should be second nature.

Posted by: Blacksheep at July 01, 2013 06:31 AM (bS6uW)

142 IIRC there are only 17 planes in the federal government fire tanker fleet.  Hickenlooper of CO vetoed that state buying any planes.  CA has its own tanker fleet that includes modified UH-60s.  Not sure if there are any civilian fire bomber companies left.  Canada produced two purpose built fire bombers - the CL-215 and CL-415 that have seen worldwide adoption but again not been paying attention to see which states in the US bought them.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 01, 2013 06:31 AM (aB+tO)

143 "...giving them the benefit of the doubt that they actually thought she'd bought beer." Suspected. Imagined. But NOT 'thought.' NO reason to violate her right to unreasonable police search. Ergo, no benefit of doubt.

Posted by: Prof. E. W. Brown at July 01, 2013 06:31 AM (i5xnd)

144
In other news, my seventeen year old daughter bawled me out for referring to Muslims as "kill crazy lunatics."
Posted by: WalrusRex





So, then she's cool with you arranging her marriage to some Pakistani village elder?

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 01, 2013 06:31 AM (kdS6q)

145 I think President Obama should honor all the gay soldiers killed at that Gettysburg battle place. This would help heal the divide between persons of color and person on non color.

Posted by: LaQuisha Largess at July 01, 2013 06:31 AM (HlUFk)

146 I know, right? I can totally see how a 24 pack of Poland Spring or Dasani would look like a 24 pack of Keystone or Heineken. Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at July 01, 2013 10:20 AM (4df7R) Oh exactly. I wonder if the cops ever bother paying attention to the information that is given to women in all the many, many, many self-defense seminars. Information such as if you are ever approached by someone who claims to be a cop but who is not wearing a uniform and who has some weird badge, you should refuse to stop for them, if you are in your car then you should leave, you should call 911 and you should drive to the police station. Or, you know, pretty much exactly what this poor girl did.

Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at July 01, 2013 06:32 AM (VtjlW)

147 So now Al Jazeera has Naomi Wolf and Soledad O'Brien. Wow.
How many other dhimmi "journalists" do they have....

Posted by: Lizzy at July 01, 2013 06:32 AM (2mSdf)

148 Remember, a few days ago demonstrators in Alexandria stabbed to death an American student. These people are not our friends.

Posted by: waldo at July 01, 2013 06:32 AM (hc19V)

149

Inre Zimmerman, the media fix is being attempted.  Just heard on ABC radio news that "leading detectives" all agree that the confrontation would have been avoided had Z stayed in his truck.  Of course, the confrontation would have also been avoided had TM stayed home instead of doubling back to, you know, actually confront Z, but to suggest that seems bigoted somehow.

 

 

Posted by: @JohnTant at July 01, 2013 06:32 AM (eytER)

150

Best spot in Gettysburg to me is the view from Little Round Top near sunset.  In summer while the Visitor Center closes  at 6 pm, the park itself stays  open to 10 pm.

 

Be out before  10 pm though, gates to the park close elctronically at 10 and you'll be spending the night with the battlefield ghosts.

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 01, 2013 06:33 AM (BAS5M)

151 How many other dhimmi "journalists" do they have....

Posted by: Lizzy at July 01, 2013 10:32 AM (2mSdf)


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All.of.them.

Posted by: fixerupper at July 01, 2013 06:33 AM (nELVU)

152 As far as "legitimate purpose" of a nation in trying to say both "marriage" and "no homosexual marriage"--there is a reason why it has been done over the eons: Numbers matter. The propagation forward matters. You having a Hallmark Channel romance does not. That is what affairs are for. Now, this is not probably an argument I would make in this day and age, for I think we can get by without it, but for the record, and Guardian Kennedy's amusement, "numbers matter" is the *exact* argument being made for amnesty. The exact argment. Therefore, there is a legitimate purpose if Congress so chooses, and always will be, even if we no longer wish to acknowledge it, or World Controller Kennedy tries to deny it. The very blnt fact is that If society ever has some great decimation (new sense of the term), then I assure you that which Mr. Kennedy thinks has no legitimate and can never have any legitimate purpose will very quickly be the requirement of all, whether they care to or not, whether legal obligation or social, for the exact reason as in times past. The survival of the community depends upon numbers.

Posted by: T. at July 01, 2013 06:33 AM (zJ6tJ)

153 Soledad OÂ’Brien will be joining Al Jazeera America as a special correspondent

I bet her first assignment is Tahrir Square

Posted by: Bernie at July 01, 2013 06:33 AM (e8kgV)

154 "leading detectives" all agree that the confrontation would have been avoided had Z stayed in his truck.

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Also could have been avoided if he had gone to Disney World. 

Posted by: WalrusRex at July 01, 2013 06:34 AM (Hx5uv)

155 I've had it with HSPN, the homosexual/liberal network. 

Posted by: Chris at July 01, 2013 06:34 AM (aBOfW)

156 Yeah,  I think the ABC agents failed the reasonable suspicion test,  which is a reasonable person standard.    A hunch that a beverage carton might be beer because the girl is young and in a grocery store near the campus,  but where there are many non-alcoholic beverages sold in cartons,  is not a justification to detain, question or search.   And obviously the observing officers could not have determined that she made an alcohol purchase,  because she did not.  (It was also a very reasonable possibility that she was 21, and the officers know that the Harris Teeter demands identification and proof of age for alcoholic purchases. )

They tried to stop her on a hunch and to ascertain what she had purchased.


Of course,  even if it had been beer,  they did not act appropriately.  The nolle prosequi motion  makes it very plain  officers were not only aware that they had panicked the girls,  but that the driver was on the line with 911 before she left the scene.  Her night in jail and the charges were to cover error and prevent a lawsuit.  

The prosecutor has carefully framed the officers reasons to approach to  seem like reasonable suspicion,  "it appeared"  she had purchased beer.  However,  there was never anything but ambiguity.    If the girls were supposed to clearly see and identify the badges of the officers in the dark lot,  I trust the officers are held to the same standards of night vision when identifying purchases of alcohol,  when non-alcoholic drinks are sold in similar packaging.


In my day a Virginian 18 or older could purchase and consume beer.  As elsewhere the federal threat of  of withheld highway funds was the impetus for raising the drinking age for all alcoholic drinks to 21,  but it was sold to Virginians as a means of preventing 18 high school students for buying beer for their younger high-school friends.   That was what raising the drinking age was really about,  even with regard to highway funds.  There had been a tacit understanding that the inevitable "older buys for younger" would now be something happening among older college students and that enforcement of moderate consumption without attachment to other breaches of the peace (DUI,  public drunkeness,  loud nuisance parties) was no priority at all.  Memory is short and that tacit understanding is lost in attempts to justify budgets and manpower.

Posted by: sarahw at July 01, 2013 06:34 AM (LYwCh)

157 Commenter troyriser is a "leading detective"?/ONT reference

Posted by: andycanuck at July 01, 2013 06:34 AM (9+vDU)

158 It all could have been avoided if St. Trayvon had not been suspended from school.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 01, 2013 06:34 AM (aB+tO)

159 "Rot Of Corruption In Africa"

I don't live in Corruption

Posted by: Roger O. Thornhill at July 01, 2013 06:35 AM (e8kgV)

160 Chuck Todd ‏@chucktodd 2m POTUS will not criticize Morsi specifically, says not U.S. position to pick Egypt's leaders

Posted by: Jones in CO at July 01, 2013 06:35 AM (8sCoq)

161
It was either that or cut back on Michelle's bikini waxes.
Posted by: WalrusRex





Speaking of undergrowth infested with bark beetles....

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 01, 2013 06:35 AM (kdS6q)

162 Andycanuck, you mean leading defective right?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 01, 2013 06:36 AM (aB+tO)

163 Soledad OÂ’Brien will be joining Al Jazeera America as a special correspondent

It's not like she'll need a lot of training, coming over from CNN and all.

She'll feel right at home.

Posted by: The Third Horseman Of The Apocalypse at July 01, 2013 06:36 AM (uLzrM)

164 I remember this hilarious MadTV skit about Al Jazeera from years ago.
"Good evening, and death to America!"

No way could this be made today: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TS4v_kj9rw4

Posted by: Lizzy at July 01, 2013 06:36 AM (2mSdf)

165 Thanks for the book recommendation!

Posted by: Lizzy
------------------------

You're welcome. Actually a Bookfinder search for "Boy's Book of"' will turn up lots of stuff. Almost anything published prior to 1960 or so will be good.

The 'Great Americans" series that I mentioned is important in the context of learning about folks and their contributions to America. I mean, I doubt even their teachers know anything about, oh, Raphael Semmes, David Farragut, Ethan Allen, etc.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 01, 2013 06:36 AM (aDwsi)

166 Did you guys check the pictures of the Croaking Stones on Drudge?  Calling Dr, Kervorkian!  Calling Dr. Kervorkian! Stat!

Posted by: WalrusRex at July 01, 2013 06:37 AM (Hx5uv)

167 In other news: Prosecution's witness is co-opted by the defense, and is now tearing apart voice analysis for this case. -1 evidence of guilt

Posted by: HoboJerky, Hash Hunter at July 01, 2013 06:37 AM (X4HxX)

168 So Gaylord Focker is voting present while thinking, "Now can I eat my Kafka waffles in peace? Michelle is over there grunting with the other silverbacks.  I need some quiet."

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 01, 2013 06:37 AM (aB+tO)

169 162
It was either that or cut back on Michelle's bikini waxes.
Posted by: WalrusRex

Speaking of undergrowth infested with bark beetles....
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 01, 2013 10:35 AM (kdS6q)    -----------  Ever try to shave a wookie?  Now get THAT image out of your mind!

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at July 01, 2013 06:37 AM (EGPJQ)

170 I don't know, Anna. I'm not a mental detective.

Posted by: andycanuck at July 01, 2013 06:38 AM (9+vDU)

171 Hey!  You know that stupid conspiracy theory about Stevens and the fake kidnapping in order to exchange the Blind Sheik for him?  The one where several people told me to quit being tin foilish and stop talking about it?

Well,  Doug Ross has some more info,  and doesn't think it's such a far-fetched idea any more.

Link in my name.

Posted by: Miss Marple at July 01, 2013 06:38 AM (GoIUi)

172 Egypt problems? Don't worry. I'm on it. Did I mention I'm a decorated Viet Nam War veteran?

Posted by: John F. 2 feeble heartbeats away Kerry at July 01, 2013 06:38 AM (i5xnd)

173 The prosecutor has carefully framed the officers reasons to approach to seem like reasonable suspicion, "it appeared" she had purchased beer. I wonder if a judge will agree?

Posted by: rickb223 at July 01, 2013 06:39 AM (GjYxB)

174 ... next up ... disaster plans for domestic animals .. your cat, your dog .. the mice that hide in your house

Posted by: Trayvon Martin at July 01, 2013 09:36 AM (e8kgV)


joncelli household pet disaster plan: snap on leashes. Run to truck. Drive like hell. Barking and licking are probably also involved.

Posted by: joncelli at July 01, 2013 06:39 AM (RD7QR)

175 POTUS will cite on Tuesday two women from Harvard who invented what’s called the “socket ball” — it’s a soccer ball that has a small electric generator inside a soccer ball. As kids kick it around all day, it generates electricity and stores it in a battery.

Posted by: Elphaba at July 01, 2013 06:40 AM (e8kgV)

176 Did you guys check the pictures of the Croaking Stones on Drudge?

Yikes.

Posted by: The Third Horseman Of The Apocalypse at July 01, 2013 06:40 AM (uLzrM)

177 That young lady with the water jugs should hire Vinny as her lawyer. 

"Yur Honor, my client was doing nothing wrong when this gang of..."

"Objection!  Police are not a gang!"

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 01, 2013 06:40 AM (aB+tO)

178 (It was also a very reasonable possibility that she was 21, and the officers know that the Harris Teeter demands identification and proof of age for alcoholic purchases. ) Dude, my local HT cards me for alcohol and even with as vain as I am that I do not look mumblemumblemumble I do not look like I could be under 21. I will be willing to go out on a limb that a HT near a university is even stricter on carding given the liability for not doing so. Yet again, this is all about failing to respect mah authoritah. I do give credit to the prosecutor for refusing to go forward with charges. I bet the paint peeled from the walls when said prosecutor talked to the alcohol bureau people.

Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at July 01, 2013 06:41 AM (VtjlW)

179 POTUS will not criticize Morsi specifically, says not U.S. position to pick Egypt's leaders Posted by: Jones in CO at July 01, 2013 10:35 AM (8sCoq) Hahah, so it's not criticizing when Obama/Hillary say "Morsi/Assad must go?" Nope, no judgment there. They just won't say anything when it won't benefit them politically.

Posted by: Mainah at July 01, 2013 06:41 AM (659DL)

180

POTUS will cite on Tuesday two women from Harvard who invented whatÂ’s
called the “socket ball” — it’s a soccer ball that has a small electric
generator inside a soccer ball. As kids kick it around all day, it
generates electricity and stores it in a battery.

 

Elphaba at July 01, 2013 10:40 AM (e8kgV)

 

 

Why not go the Full Goddamned Monty and hook our kids up to bicycles that power the refrigerator ala Gilligan's Island?

 

 

Posted by: @JohnTant at July 01, 2013 06:41 AM (eytER)

181

I wonder if the cops ever bother paying attention to the information that is given to women in all the many, many, many self-defense seminars. Information such as if you are ever approached by someone who claims to be a cop but who is not wearing a uniform and who has some weird badge, you should refuse to stop for them, if you are in your car then you should leave, you should call 911 and you should drive to the police station.

 




Or, you know, pretty much exactly what this poor girl did.

 

 

Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at July 01, 2013 10:32 AM (VtjlW)

 

 

EXACTLY.

 

Whenever I hear that advice I always say to myself,    "Yeah, that's great and all.   Until    the cop thinks I'm running away and shoots   my    car,   shoots my tires,   or shoots ME."

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at July 01, 2013 06:42 AM (4df7R)

182 POTUS will not criticize Morsi specifically, says not U.S. position to pick Egypt's leaders

Posted by: Jones in CO at July 01, 2013 10:35 AM (8sCoq)

 

 

OMG.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at July 01, 2013 06:42 AM (4df7R)

183 Well, Doug Ross has some more info, and doesn't think it's such a far-fetched idea any more.

Link in my name.

Posted by: Miss Marple at July 01, 2013 10:38 AM (GoIUi)



I never thought it was far fetched because I wouldn't put anything, no matter how underhanded, beyond this Administration and State Dept.

Posted by: Captain Hate at July 01, 2013 06:43 AM (OYrny)

184 Keith Richards' sympathy for the devil was obviously more like a pact.

Posted by: The Third Horseman Of The Apocalypse at July 01, 2013 06:43 AM (uLzrM)

185 Andycanuck it will take a detective to figure out which is the greater mental defective in this administration.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 01, 2013 06:43 AM (aB+tO)

186 Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 01, 2013 10:36 AM (aDwsi)

More thanks!

My son has recently been obsessed with geography, and how other countries differ from ours. I've had an interesting time explaining why I don't particularly want to visit countries like Saudi Arabia (the religious police burned all your aunt M's toys when she moved there at age 5) or Malaysia (dad went there on business and here's what he saw). I've ended so many of my descriptions with, "...and that's why America is the best country in the world" that he's started saying, "I know, I know." I figure he needs to hear it at home because he's not getting it anywhere else.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 01, 2013 06:43 AM (2mSdf)

187 Yeah, I get carded once in a while at HT. The cash register doesn't let them proceed with an alcohol sale unless they enter a birth date, same at Rite-Aid. Food Lion nearby knows me and hasn't asked for years.

Posted by: Lincolntf at July 01, 2013 06:43 AM (ZshNr)

188 >Did you guys check the pictures of the Croaking Stones on Drudge? Jagger looks his age. Richards looks like a re-animated corpse.

Posted by: Jones in CO at July 01, 2013 06:43 AM (8sCoq)

189 150 Inre Zimmerman, the media fix is being attempted. Just heard on ABC radio news that "leading detectives" all agree that the confrontation would have been avoided had Z stayed in his truck. Of course, the confrontation would have also been avoided had TM stayed home instead of doubling back to, you know, actually confront Z, but to suggest that seems bigoted somehow. Posted by: @JohnTant at July 01, 2013 10:32 AM (eytER) What the fuck is a "leading detective"? "Leading morons" all agree that the confrontation would have been avoided if the SMOD had struck 2/25/2012.

Posted by: waldo at July 01, 2013 06:44 AM (hc19V)

190 "that stupid conspiracy theory about Stevens and the fake kidnapping in order to exchange the Blind Sheik for him?" Sounded plausible to me from when I first read the idea on HillBuzz, 'way back when. Has Bob Shieffer's Radar picked up on this?

Posted by: John F. 2 feeble heartbeats away Kerry at July 01, 2013 06:44 AM (i5xnd)

191 So Gaylord Focker is voting present while thinking, "Now can I eat my Kafka waffles in peace? Michelle is over there grunting with the other silverbacks. I need some quiet."

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 01, 2013 10:37 AM (aB+tO)

 

 

OW OW OW OW OW.

 

How can WATER hurt so much when it comes out the nose?   It's frigging WATER!

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at July 01, 2013 06:45 AM (4df7R)

192 immigration bill,

I'd wondered who was putting the pressure on I had no idea silicon valley was a lot of the pressure


WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Eager to secure more visas for skilled foreign workers, tech companies have stepped up their lobbying this week in support of a comprehensive U.S. immigration reform bill.

Human resources executives from Adobe , Broadcom , Intel , Motorola Solutions and other corporations met with dozens of lawmakers and senior advisers on Wednesday from the congressional committees in charge of immigration laws.

They also spoke to a wide array of Democratic and Republican senators including some on-the-fence Republicans, such as Mark Kirk of Illinois and Rob Portman of Ohio
@yahoo

Posted by: willow at July 01, 2013 06:45 AM (nqBYe)

193 172 Miss Marple,

It was either that, or the CIA "give me back our guns" op...

I'm getting the upgrade to Bronze Foil beanie next week b/c you simply can't think up a crazy conspiracy this admin doesn't try to make fact...

Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at July 01, 2013 06:45 AM (LRFds)

194 Here is the motion to drop the charges in the Charlottesville parking lot water-purchase swoop,  laying out facts before the judge.   It is cautiously worded with regard to the justification for approaching the girl,  to get it as close to possible to reasonable suspicion (which it doesn't quite meet given the context of the stop).   

http://ftpcontent.worldnow.com/wvir/documents/DroppedCharges.pdf  

Posted by: sarahw at July 01, 2013 06:46 AM (LYwCh)

195 Egyptian media reported Sunday that a Dutch journalist was raped by several men in Cairo's Tahrir Square a few days ago. Dina Zakaria, a journalist reporting for the "Egypt 25" news channel affiliated with the January 25 revolution, shared the incident on her Facebook page Sunday: "A Dutch journalist in Tahrir was raped by men who dub themselves revolutionists. Her condition is severe and she is hospitalized." http://goo.gl/BoFxl

Posted by: waldo at July 01, 2013 06:47 AM (hc19V)

196 >Has Bob Shieffer's Radar picked up on this? Bob is stuck in a time warp where Nixon is still President

Posted by: Jones in CO at July 01, 2013 06:47 AM (8sCoq)

197 Zero reasonible suspicion plus incompetence; 6 plainclothes, 2 should have been in lighted store observing buy if so by where she pick up bottled-water, look of it and that she was not carded so if they by incompence thought then beer {in clear bottle?! and under 21) why not go after and ask seller that would be more of the problem? But in the dark at night clearly they could not nor likely anyone know what she was carrying Also be able to tell difference between 20+ year old or 21 year old therefore they Asumed Guilty until Proven other wise; thus incompetence or worse; in addition then for mere college student buying bear jumping on car pulling gun 6 persons at night charging young Inocent women waving supposed badges at 20+ feet yelling for no legitament reason acting like thugs. Real reason she was let go and no charges note two other wittnesses in car with her.

Posted by: Hannibal Lecter, M.D. at July 01, 2013 06:47 AM (e8kgV)

198 Posted by: WalrusRex at July 01, 2013 10:34 AM (Hx5uv) Or, as someone said last week: "Don't Engage!!!!" Yes, all confrontations could be avoided if good people simply did nothing. I recall something *else* that happens when good people do nothing, however.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 01, 2013 06:47 AM (/PCJa)

199 What's interesting about that tech article, Is many tech workers are from China, they pay them 500 a mth and set up an apt type setting where they bus however many  of  them at the end of the day.

so silicon valley  likes them some cheap labor too.

Posted by: willow at July 01, 2013 06:47 AM (nqBYe)

200 OW OW OW OW OW.

How can WATER hurt so much when it comes out the nose? It's frigging WATER!

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at July 01, 2013 10:45 AM (4df7R)



A likely story.

Posted by: Virginia ABC at July 01, 2013 06:47 AM (LYwCh)

201 Chuck Tard reporting..."Obama admin says it is not their role to say that Assad must go...er wait a sec I am retarded, sir!"

Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at July 01, 2013 06:47 AM (LRFds)

202 #198

They just wanted to jump a coed. They watch too much porn.

Posted by: RiverC, White Chocolate Emancipator at July 01, 2013 06:48 AM (El+h4)

203 >Michelle is over there grunting with the other silverbacks. you win the internet

Posted by: Jones in CO at July 01, 2013 06:48 AM (8sCoq)

204 Morsi is not going to step down. So, unless they are willing to back it up, and I don't see how they can without the aid of the army, I see nothing happening -- except more rapes of foreign journalists.

Posted by: waldo at July 01, 2013 06:48 AM (hc19V)

205 Double sock fail! Double sock fail! I jus' wanna be meeee.

Posted by: mindful webworker, your servant at July 01, 2013 06:48 AM (i5xnd)

206 By the way,  files and documents were taken from the Muslim Brotherhood offices before they were torched.

I sure hope some of those documents shed some light on Benghazi and Obama's involvement with the Muslim Brotherhood.

Posted by: Miss Marple at July 01, 2013 06:49 AM (GoIUi)

207 #193

The tech companies are the biggest squishes of all.

Posted by: RiverC, White Chocolate Emancipator at July 01, 2013 06:49 AM (El+h4)

208 ...and that's why America is the best country in the world

Well, top 10 anyway.

Posted by: SpongeBob ReaverSaget at July 01, 2013 06:50 AM (kxSZr)

209 The tech companies are the biggest squishes of all. Quite frequently, yes.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 01, 2013 06:50 AM (/PCJa)

210 Ayman Mohyeldin ‏@AymanM 12m Egypts military issues 48 hr ultimatum to end political crises otherwise it will be forced to intervene @NBCNews @BreakingNews

Posted by: Jones in CO at July 01, 2013 06:50 AM (8sCoq)

211

Re: Rolling Bones

 

I really think Ace (or a cob) should do a thread today on them.  Something about bright stage lights on pasty white old skin.  Richards looked like an old bleached out catcher's mitt from the 1920s.

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at July 01, 2013 06:50 AM (EGPJQ)

212 I'll have ALL their badges!!!

Posted by: Detective Captain Yelly McShouterton at July 01, 2013 06:51 AM (9+vDU)

213 Keith Richards' sympathy for the devil was obviously more like a pact. Posted by: The Third Horseman Of The Apocalypse at July 01, 2013 10:43 AM (uLzrM) I saw a bright light. I thought we were on.

Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at July 01, 2013 06:51 AM (VtjlW)

214 Egypts military issues 48 hr ultimatum to end political crises otherwise it will be forced to intervene @NBCNews @BreakingNews On whose side, though? Or are they saying, "F this. If everyone's going to complain anyway, we'll just coup d'etat."

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 01, 2013 06:52 AM (/PCJa)

215 If that's the Harris Teeter o the main drag through Charlottesville, I drive past it a few times a year, en route to the in-laws. Mental note to never stop for beer.

Posted by: Lincolntf at July 01, 2013 06:52 AM (ZshNr)

216 #210

It pisses me off, really. In my field there are a lot of stellar intellects, but most of the people running the big companies are squishy wonderkids, narcissists, and greedy sobs.

That's probably because most genuinely wise people don't want to run multi-million dollar corporations.

Houston, we've got bigger problems.

Posted by: RiverC, White Chocolate Emancipator at July 01, 2013 06:53 AM (El+h4)

217 The sign on the US , then and now.
Remember when it was Shirts and Shoes, no bare feet?
Now it is no firearms or Gang Colors.
From what have you Boy's been into?
To, Who tombstone who?

Posted by: Santino at July 01, 2013 06:53 AM (3GuQx)

218 Hasn't the simple explanation occured to You Guys? Was the water buying coed hawt?

Posted by: Retread at July 01, 2013 06:53 AM (Kqtqx)

219 If I were an aging member of the world's greatest rock band, I would 1)realize my best music came out some time ago 2) I'm too old for this shit 3) retire to a castle in the Scottish Highlands

Posted by: Jones in CO at July 01, 2013 06:53 AM (8sCoq)

220
Gay couple may be 1st to win green-card petition

A Bulgarian graduate student and his American husband are the first gay couple in the nation to have their green card petition approved after the Supreme Court ruling on same-sex marriages, their lawyer says.




Finally -- smashing  gay stereotypes. On the other hand....

"...the couple wanted to stay in Fort Lauderdale, where they live with their two Yorkshire terriers."

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 01, 2013 06:53 AM (kdS6q)

221 161 Chuck Todd ‏@chucktodd 2m POTUS will not criticize Morsi specifically, says not U.S. position to pick Egypt's leaders --- Shithead didn't feel that way when Mubarak was still in power.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at July 01, 2013 06:54 AM (a3iAA)

222 #215

Looks like it will get good.

Why can't they just get themselves a Pharaoh and be done with it?

Posted by: RiverC, White Chocolate Emancipator at July 01, 2013 06:54 AM (El+h4)

223 #194  I am about ready to upgrade to Bronze Foil as well.  Maybe even with a propeller on top.

The only thing that hasn't been dragged into this yet are aliens from another planet,  and I am not sure he isn't doing something about that as well.

I KNOW they sit around in the White House and laugh about how they are sticking it to us.  Looking at the juvenile tweets of Axelrod and Plouffe,  all you see are people who want to score points because they have nothing else in their lives.

And the fake kidnapping seems like a juvenile scheme that they thought would be really cool,  especially in October.   The Obama could pose as a statesman.  

I hope a baboon bites him in Tanzania.

Posted by: Miss Marple at July 01, 2013 06:55 AM (GoIUi)

224 >On whose side, though? Or are they saying, "F this. If everyone's going to complain anyway, we'll just coup d'etat." from what I've read they are sympathetic to the protesters

Posted by: Jones in CO at July 01, 2013 06:56 AM (8sCoq)

225 The tech companies are the biggest squishes of all.

Quite frequently, yes.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 01, 2013 10:50 AM (/PCJa)



Oh fuck yeah; most of 'em will gladly build the tables for the database which contain all the information on us serfs in their perfectly constructed new world.

Posted by: Captain Hate at July 01, 2013 06:56 AM (OYrny)

226 Breaking! The new number of NFL arrestees since the Super Bowl is now thirty one, yes, 3-1. Congratulations to Ryan Matthews of the San Diego Chargers for knocking a man unconscious outside of a night club ( of course) last night. Setting a new standard every day, today's NFL.

Posted by: Lincolntf at July 01, 2013 06:56 AM (ZshNr)

227 If that's the Harris Teeter o the main drag through Charlottesville, I drive past it a few times a year, en route to the in-laws. Mental note to never stop for beer  water. Posted by: Lincolntf
----

FIFY

Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 01, 2013 06:57 AM (aDwsi)

228 If I were an aging member of the world's greatest rock band, I would 1)realize my best music came out some time ago 2) I'm too old for this shit 3) retire to a castle in the Scottish Highlands Posted by: Jones in CO at July 01, 2013 10:53 AM (8sCoq) I'm pretty sure the Stones are still on tour to a. support Mick's babies and b. support Keith's monthly full body blood transfusions. I do believe Sir Paul McCarthy put it best: "Somebody said to me, 'But the Beatles were anti-materialistic.' That's a huge myth. John and I literally used to sit down and say, 'Now, let's write a swimming pool.' "

Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at July 01, 2013 06:58 AM (VtjlW)

229 161 Chuck Todd ‏@chucktodd 2m

POTUS will not criticize Morsi specifically, says not U.S. position to pick Egypt's leaders

---

Shithead didn't feel that way when Mubarak was still in power.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at July 01, 2013 10:54 AM (a3iAA)



You'd think that F. Chuck, after being humiliated in front of the international press in Israel by the JEF, might not feel obliged any more to let that go unsaid.  Then again, maybe he's that fucking stupid.

Posted by: Captain Hate at July 01, 2013 06:59 AM (OYrny)

230 Shithead didn't feel that way when Mubarak was still in power. Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge

------------

Or Gaddafi, or Assad...

Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 01, 2013 07:00 AM (aDwsi)

231 By the way,  this is what a blue carton of the La Croix sparkling water looks like.

 http://www.buythecase.net/uploads/products/200/7336070341.jpg

I can't remember if I ever saw beer marketed as watery clear shimmering lake/mountain streams with a prominent label of "PURE,"  but beer is not what I would think of looking at that box.

Posted by: Virginia ABC at July 01, 2013 07:00 AM (LYwCh)

232 Ace up

Posted by: Vic at July 01, 2013 07:01 AM (lZvxr)

233 Whoops, sock off.  That's exactly what Virginia ABC tackled the girls for.

Posted by: SarahW at July 01, 2013 07:01 AM (LYwCh)

234 Saw on CNN this morning that Dubya and Laura are also in Africa this week and will be meeting with the Mooch. Is it too much to hope that a little of Laura's class might rub off on the Mooch?

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at July 01, 2013 07:03 AM (7ObY1)

235
A Republican Case for Immigration Reform

by Jeb Bush

....Republicans have much in common with immigrants—beliefs in hard work, enterprise, family, education, patriotism and faith. But for their voice to penetrate the gateway, Republicans need to cease being the obstacle to immigration reform and instead point the way toward the solution.

WSJ 6/30





Yep -- 2016 is going to be just scads of fun.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 01, 2013 07:05 AM (kdS6q)

236 'can't remember if I ever saw beer marketed as watery clear shimmering lake/mountain streams with a prominent label of "PURE,"...' That could've been Pabst!

Posted by: mindful webworker, your servant at July 01, 2013 07:07 AM (i5xnd)

237 "Ace up" Yow! Already? My cue to get going. My day won't live itself!

Posted by: mindful webworker, your servant at July 01, 2013 07:11 AM (i5xnd)

238 236 A Republican Case for Immigration Reform by Jeb Bush ....Republicans have much in common with immigrants—beliefs in hard work, enterprise, family, education, patriotism and faith. But for their voice to penetrate the gateway, Republicans need to cease being the obstacle to immigration reform and instead point the way toward the solution. WSJ 6/30 Yep -- 2016 is going to be just scads of fun. Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 01, 2013 11:05 AM (kdS6q) You know what they don't have in common Jeb you squishy fuckhead? Desire for larger socialist government. You know what else they don't have in common? Respect for our laws and borders.

Posted by: Buzzion at July 01, 2013 07:15 AM (LI48c)

239 I used Google image search to see if there were any similar beer packaging.
(I don't like beer and don't pay all that much attention to it, so I supposed a similar box might be possible)

This is as close as it gets, with these brands.  And they are not close.

http://tinyurl.com/Beersthatareblue

Posted by: SarahW at July 01, 2013 07:19 AM (LYwCh)

240 There can be only one!

Posted by: Keith Richards at July 01, 2013 07:19 AM (codCi)

241 Real reason she was let go and no
charges note two other wittnesses in car with her.


Ding ding ding. We have an analysis winner here.


If the girl had been alone when the ABC unit jumped her she would still be in jail charged with resisting arrest, assault of a peace officer with a deadly weapon (because her car brushed one) and 5 counts of attempted murder of a peace officer - since she missed the rest of them. Why? When the police screw up they escalate the charges to cover their asses; the extra arm flapping action and noise helps conceal the original screw up.

And oh yes, had she been alone, we would never have heard about any of this.

Posted by: [/i] [/b] [/u] [/s] An Observation at July 01, 2013 07:29 AM (ylhEn)

242 Why did this require some massive sting operation? A college kid buying beer? Who'd have thunk?

They couldn't have intercepted her before she got to the car, identified themselves calmly, and asked to see what she'd bought?

I was wondering about that myself.  Are there hidden incentives here?  For example, do the police have the option to confiscate and sell your car at auction if you're illegally transporting illegally acquired alcohol?

Another possibility is that the numbers look better if they're stopping people in vehicles rather than on foot.  Do those numbers get tallied in a sexier category?

There has to be a reason, even if it's just adrenaline.

Posted by: bonhomme at July 01, 2013 08:32 AM (8ifMA)

243 Or, as someone said last week: "Don't Engage!!!!"

Yes, all confrontations could be avoided if good people simply did nothing. I recall something *else* that happens when good people do nothing, however.

That was my response to troyriser who was making that point implicitly.  I pointed out (in a rude way, I admit) that his argument was exactly the same as arguing non-engagement.  Zimmerman had no reasonable expectation that getting out of his truck to check the house number would result in a life-or-death situation.  Yet, so many people call him a "wanna-be cop" and overly-aggressive for getting out of his vehicle. 

Some even seem to argue he shouldn't have noticed Martin walking across lawns out of the light on a rainy night at all.  Apparently doing so was racist in and of itself.

Posted by: bonhomme at July 01, 2013 08:56 AM (8ifMA)

244 There was no reasonable basis for suspicion to justify stopping her in the first place.   They should not be attempting to ascertain what a customer has purchased in the parking lot,  just in case - based on a hunch that young people near UVA prefer beer to any other beverage,  when young people emerge from a store that sells many different types of non-alcoholic beverage in 12 packs.

  They should see actual beer at the very least,  not just something that "appears to be" (or rather, might be) beer.

There must be some sort of quota or bounty - a feeling they need to net themselves a scofflaw to justify their existence.    Trolling grocery stores for college- aged  people making moderate purchases of beer or hard cider seems a rather poor use of ABC agents,  as ABC's primary purpose in enforcement of vendors,  not customers.   They get guns to deal with moonshiners and violent drunkards,  not sorority sisters armed with cookies and giggles.

Posted by: SarahW, startin' her day off right at July 01, 2013 09:12 AM (LYwCh)

245 Aside from the attempt to stop without enough justification,   it really bothers me that at least two agents on the scene  were fully aware that the driver was attempting to communicate with a 911 dispatcher   ON THE SCENE,  a fact made very very clear in the nolle prosequi motion. 

Posted by: SarahW, startin' her day off right at July 01, 2013 09:17 AM (LYwCh)

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