July 22, 2013
— Ace At least 25 Iraqi security personnel killed in insurgent attacks aimed at liberating the terrorists.
Another prison, called Taji, was also attacked.
The prisons in Abu Ghraib and Taji house thousands of prisoners, including convicted al-Qaida militants. Exactly one year ago, al-Qaida’s Iraq arm launched a campaign called ‘‘Breaking the Walls’’ that made freeing its imprisoned members a top priority.A surge of violence across Iraq has killed more than 3,000 people since the start of April, and the assaults on the prisons laid bare the degree to which security has eroded in the country in recent months. The spike in bloodshed is intensifying fears of a return to the widespread sectarian killing that pushed the country to the brink of civil war after the 2003 U.S.-led invasion.
Several officials, including lawmakers on parliamentÂ’s security and defense committee, said more than 500 inmates managed to escape from Abu Ghraib. There were no immediate reports of escapes from Taji.
Given the number of security forces killed, and mentions of gunfights lasting an hour, it seems that this is a bona fide jailbreak from the outside -- although, this being Iraq, you can bet there were confederates on the inside as well.
I don't understand why, in this sort of situation, the wardens just don't start immediately killing Al Qaeda prisoners.
Oh I know-- "But you're not supposed to." Well, you're not supposed to plot to bomb and shoot prison guards, either. So "Supposed To" is right out the window.
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Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 22, 2013 01:58 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: hello, it's me also a creep-assed cracka.. at July 22, 2013 01:59 PM (9+ccr)
What's that? Mmm hmm. Ok. Right.
Well, at least you still have me.
Posted by: Pres. Bystander [/i] [/b] at July 22, 2013 01:59 PM (xvZYu)
Posted by: hello, it's me also a creep-assed cracka.. at July 22, 2013 02:00 PM (9+ccr)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at July 22, 2013 02:00 PM (S4AQU)
Posted by: Shillary at July 22, 2013 02:01 PM (I5Htn)
Posted by: RLTW at July 22, 2013 02:01 PM (AC44W)
All our "nation building" was a waste of blood and treasure. And piss on Colin Powell and his stupid broke it BS.
Posted by: Vic at July 22, 2013 02:02 PM (lZvxr)
Posted by: 13times at July 22, 2013 02:02 PM (fGPLK)
Posted by: Captain Hate at July 22, 2013 02:02 PM (+s2+H)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at July 22, 2013 02:03 PM (ZPrif)
I fear for the safety of our few remaining troops there.
They have targets on their backs.
And things are probably going to get much worse over there, from now on.
Posted by: wheatie at July 22, 2013 02:04 PM (KtDec)
Posted by: Lauren at July 22, 2013 02:05 PM (ELdpj)
Posted by: redguy at July 22, 2013 02:05 PM (oqvI4)
Posted by: hello, it's me also a creep-assed cracka.. at July 22, 2013 02:05 PM (9+ccr)
Posted by: YIKES! at July 22, 2013 02:06 PM (mETGQ)
Posted by: The littl shyning man at July 22, 2013 02:06 PM (hxyoQ)
I fear for the safety of our few remaining troops there.
Me too. At this point, I'm all for bringing them back home then finding two opposing factions to arm.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at July 22, 2013 02:06 PM (0HooB)
Posted by: rickb223 at July 22, 2013 02:06 PM (O2PXL)
Posted by: Exceptionally Mediocre at July 22, 2013 02:06 PM (ZKGJl)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at July 22, 2013 02:07 PM (SY2Kh)
You can count on the Democrats to piss away any victories.
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at July 22, 2013 02:07 PM (oY6Yp)
Posted by: Lizzy at July 22, 2013 02:07 PM (2mSdf)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at July 22, 2013 02:07 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at July 22, 2013 02:09 PM (SY2Kh)
well the article said they were "iraqi." If they meant American forces IN Iraq I assume they would have said so.
Posted by: ace at July 22, 2013 02:10 PM (/IWYB)
Posted by: Emily Litella at July 22, 2013 02:10 PM (mETGQ)
How 'bout leavin us out of it?
Posted by: Johny Reb at July 22, 2013 02:11 PM (I5Htn)
This is the last line of the article. I love the wry sense of humor! I refuse to believe anyone can call Ramadan "holy" given all the bloody acts of violence.
*messenger whispers into bonhomme's ear*
They weren't kidding?
Posted by: bonhomme at July 22, 2013 02:12 PM (IoTdl)
Posted by: 13times at July 22, 2013 02:12 PM (fGPLK)
Posted by: Emily Latilla at July 22, 2013 02:12 PM (BAS5M)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at July 22, 2013 02:12 PM (0HooB)
Posted by: MSNBC at July 22, 2013 02:12 PM (v1mq9)
Posted by: Preezy B at July 22, 2013 02:13 PM (WCe8r)
Posted by: Chris Stevens at July 22, 2013 02:13 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 22, 2013 02:13 PM (lVPtV)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 22, 2013 02:13 PM (9Xc5j)
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 22, 2013 02:13 PM (wR+pz)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at July 22, 2013 02:14 PM (S4AQU)
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz, whose son looks nothing like Trayvon at July 22, 2013 02:14 PM (BsGkx)
The AP was oddly coy about that little detail, weren't they? I also noticed when they talked about "soldier" deaths, they didn't list the soldier's nation. I'm sure it has nothing to do with keeping the Iraq War out of the common person's mind.
Posted by: bonhomme at July 22, 2013 02:14 PM (IoTdl)
It's a good thing that our Lord and Savior Barack Hussein Obama (PBUH) got our troops out of there just in the nick of time.....
/sarc
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at July 22, 2013 02:14 PM (ADnWI)
Posted by: t-dubyah-d at July 22, 2013 02:15 PM (u6lBN)
Posted by: fawkes at July 22, 2013 02:15 PM (Djwm9)
37 Sorry to be daft, but they mention security personnel and soldiers were killed - any of them American?
It's doubtful.
We handed over control and operation of the prisons over there, quite a while ago.
Can't remember what year it was...but I think it was while Bush was still in office.
Posted by: wheatie at July 22, 2013 02:15 PM (KtDec)
Posted by: Fritz at July 22, 2013 02:16 PM (bWoh5)
Hey TFG, we are gonna need more drones over here. ASAP!!!!
Posted by: t-dubyah-d at July 22, 2013 02:16 PM (u6lBN)
Rumor has it that they made it over the wall by forming a naked human pyramid.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at July 22, 2013 02:16 PM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: GnuBreed at July 22, 2013 02:16 PM (cHZB7)
So if AQ is no longer a problem, who let the dogs out?
Posted by: fawkes at July 22, 2013 02:18 PM (Djwm9)
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at July 22, 2013 02:18 PM (HDgX3)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at July 22, 2013 02:20 PM (0HooB)
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Posted by: George Orwell crosseyed and painless at July 22, 2013 02:21 PM (mCNwt)
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Posted by: obama at July 22, 2013 02:24 PM (9Xc5j)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/i][/b][/u] at July 22, 2013 02:24 PM (CA2NO)
Posted by: 13times at July 22, 2013 02:24 PM (fGPLK)
Posted by: Eton Cox at July 22, 2013 02:24 PM (QCc6B)
I was always impressed the way that Braun dude could smack the cover off the ball, now I know why. So he won't get paid for 65 games but he previously made many million. I would say it was worth the risk.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 22, 2013 02:24 PM (4+FWp)
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Posted by: MSM at July 22, 2013 02:26 PM (44jNh)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 22, 2013 02:26 PM (9Xc5j)
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at July 22, 2013 06:18 PM (HDgX3)
Sequester. All Bush's fault, naturally.
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at July 22, 2013 02:26 PM (v3pYe)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at July 22, 2013 02:27 PM (0HooB)
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Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at July 22, 2013 02:29 PM (WD0KF)
Posted by: Lyndie England at July 22, 2013 02:30 PM (SzAZ7)
Posted by: Hollowpoint
WWT
Posted by: pep at July 22, 2013 02:30 PM (6TB1Z)
Orange Jumpsuits?
Posted by: McGregor at July 22, 2013 02:30 PM (qo244)
Posted by: Melissa Perry Harris, whackadoodle at July 22, 2013 02:31 PM (WCe8r)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 22, 2013 02:31 PM (9Xc5j)
How do you tell the difference between the terrorists inside Abu Graib and those outside of it?
The ones on the inside have doggeh collars.
I still kinda wonder what happened to the grunt who leaked those pix. That was weapons-grade stoopid.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at July 22, 2013 02:32 PM (0HooB)
Posted by: Margret Cho at July 22, 2013 02:32 PM (SzAZ7)
Posted by: Lincolntf at July 22, 2013 02:33 PM (ZshNr)
Posted by: Meggie McCheese at July 22, 2013 02:33 PM (Gq4HH)
Posted by: YIKES! at July 22, 2013 02:33 PM (mETGQ)
Posted by: Lena Dunham at July 22, 2013 02:36 PM (mETGQ)
Because if the prison break is unsuccessful, the wardens find themselves up on charges of murder because the prisoners have rights or something (as evidenced by the fact they weren't summarily executed in the first place*)
If the prison break is successful, then the raiding forces that overwhelmed your guards are now pissed at you and you're their prisoner.
*Note that I support summary executions of islamic terrorists in the first place.
Posted by: Methos at July 22, 2013 02:38 PM (hO9ad)
And the only people over there I would support... the KURDS... are pushing back both the Government and Islamic Forces in Syria...
Posted by: Romeo13 at July 22, 2013 02:38 PM (lZBBB)
He may have apologized, Never, but I suspect Braun is mostly sorry that he got caught.
Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at July 22, 2013 06:29 PM (WD0KF)
You should have read the expose that the local fishwrap, which up until a couple weeks ago was solidly in Braun's corner, put up over the weekend. Braun was pissed that, a few hours after he apparently popped a testosterone lozenge or two (the fast way to boost and thus pass through testosterone), he was selected to be tested.
Posted by: steveegg at July 22, 2013 02:39 PM (o44nj)
Why aren't these people simply executed to begin with? Are they still being interrogated, or what?
This is the type of situation where the death penalty is suited perfectly. Politically important captives who are guilty of murder and capable of more murder, in a politically volatile and unstable location like Iraq.
Posted by: dan-O at July 22, 2013 02:39 PM (D0bIN)
The worst part about Braun, etc. is that it puts the lie to us being in the "post-steroids in MLB" era. Just as bad as ever, apparently.
Posted by: Lincolntf at July 22, 2013 06:33 PM (ZshNr)
It IS post-roids - it's all about the testosterone now.
Posted by: steveegg at July 22, 2013 02:41 PM (o44nj)
Why aren't these people simply executed to begin with? Are they still being interrogated, or what?
This is the type of situation where the death penalty is suited perfectly. Politically important captives who are guilty of murder and capable of more murder, in a politically volatile and unstable location like Iraq.
I'm not sure what that's all about either. IIWM, I'd clean out Gitmo tomorrow and send a big, ol' message to the rest of those bastards.
And I'd be well within the Geneva Conventions, which allows for the execution of enemy combatants (i.e, those without uniforms).
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at July 22, 2013 02:43 PM (0HooB)
Posted by: CarolT at July 22, 2013 02:43 PM (s0f54)
Posted by: Lincolntf at July 22, 2013 02:43 PM (ZshNr)
Posted by: Kathy Griffen at July 22, 2013 02:43 PM (SzAZ7)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 22, 2013 02:44 PM (9Xc5j)
Posted by: Weimar Republican at July 22, 2013 02:47 PM (XdnQT)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 22, 2013 02:48 PM (N+013)
Posted by: George Orwell crosseyed and painless at July 22, 2013 02:48 PM (mCNwt)
Posted by: Amanda Marcotte at July 22, 2013 06:20 PM (SzAZ7)
Go find another blog bitch.
Hey look everybody, check out my earrings
This is my area of expertise, both of you back off!
Posted by: chris hays at July 22, 2013 02:49 PM (u6lBN)
I don't understand why, in this sort of situation, the wardens just don't start immediately killing Al Qaeda prisoners.
Oh I know-- "But you're not supposed to."***
Henry V thought that it was OK and he got a nice write up by Shakespeare.
Posted by: WalrusRex at July 22, 2013 02:49 PM (XUKZU)
Posted by: Lincolntf at July 22, 2013 02:49 PM (ZshNr)
129 125 Everyone calls me Abu Ghraib because of the number of angry men that have been inside me since 9/11.
Posted by: Kathy Griffen at July 22, 2013 06:43 PM (SzAZ7)
Also because sex with you is like torture.
+++++
Don't forget about me.
Posted by: Dog collar at July 22, 2013 02:51 PM (pxDth)
Posted by: BornLib at July 22, 2013 02:52 PM (zpNwC)
Posted by: Tami[/i][/b][/u][/s] at July 22, 2013 02:53 PM (X6akg)
Posted by: eleven at July 22, 2013 02:53 PM (fsLdt)
Al Queda is on the run in Iraq! Or on the lam!
Posted by: CarolT at July 22, 2013 06:43 PM (s0f54)
*****
You misspelled lamb.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at July 22, 2013 02:54 PM (pxDth)
Posted by: Melissa Harris Perry at July 22, 2013 02:55 PM (SzAZ7)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 22, 2013 02:55 PM (N+013)
Posted by: eleven at July 22, 2013 02:56 PM (fsLdt)
Sheriff Joe could probably still head 'em off at the pass. Camels don't move very fast.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 22, 2013 02:56 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: Mandrill Redass at July 22, 2013 02:57 PM (lT6go)
Posted by: baldilocks at July 22, 2013 02:57 PM (aZXYg)
Posted by: Al Qaeda Inmate No. 446 at July 22, 2013 02:58 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: ChristyBlinky's Royal Ate-e-quat at July 22, 2013 02:58 PM (baL2B)
What do you want to bet that some of the GITMO detainees apply for and receive asylum here?
Posted by: baldilocks at July 22, 2013 06:57 PM (aZXYg)
----
Damn well better be a path to citizenship too. No anti-mooselumism allowed.
Posted by: RioBravo at July 22, 2013 02:58 PM (3LZ04)
Mara Liaison wasn't bringing in enough of the vital 18-55 bulldyke demo.
Posted by: Methos at July 22, 2013 02:58 PM (hO9ad)
ACORN has positions waiting.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 22, 2013 02:58 PM (8ZskC)
I think you mean "unlawful combatants". Yep, no uniform while armed in a combat zone can legally lead to a speedy, lengthy nap.
Posted by: Bob (codename: Sayuri) at July 22, 2013 02:59 PM (ImIys)
Slow and steady wins the race!!!
Posted by: the turtle at July 22, 2013 03:01 PM (u6lBN)
Posted by: the turtle at July 22, 2013 03:03 PM (u6lBN)
Has anyone blamed the Joooos yet?
----
No. There are not responsible for this. That will be the pending pali terrorist release as part of the new peaceless talks.
Posted by: RioBravo at July 22, 2013 03:03 PM (3LZ04)
Posted by: baldilocks at July 22, 2013 06:57 PM (aZXYg)
When the evil Bush was still President there was a report that they had been trying for a long time to get some other countries to take what was left there but were unsuccessful The reason for that was that the moderately bad ones had all been released already to home countries. All that was left was the worst of the worst and nobody wanted them.
If it had been left up to me I would have had all of them marched out into the prison yard and I would have had them shot in accordance with the laws of civilized warfare. They have already had a "hearing" and that is enough to justify military executions.
Posted by: Vic at July 22, 2013 03:03 PM (lZvxr)
Posted by: Vic at July 22, 2013 03:04 PM (lZvxr)
Can't tell you how sad I am that all the unbelievable heroism our forces displayed in Iraq is about to become officially pissed down the toilet. I place 80% of the blame on the Dem/Media complex, which deliberately demoralized our citizens by its cross-eyed agit-prop, and 18% on the compromised/politicized CIA, which "assured" Pres. Bush Iran wasn't a threat. Bush gets 2% of the blame for not fighting back better.
Posted by: RepubEstablishment at July 22, 2013 03:04 PM (FWwQD)
Posted by: Ken Royall at July 22, 2013 03:05 PM (h+2SD)
Posted by: t-dubyah-d at July 22, 2013 03:06 PM (u6lBN)
Just think, Gloria and ace are on the same side here.
A budding romance may be in the making.
Posted by: GnuBreed at July 22, 2013 03:06 PM (cHZB7)
Posted by: George Orwell crosseyed and painless at July 22, 2013 03:08 PM (mCNwt)
I applied for asylum at the HQ and I was denied. Oh fiddlesticks!
Posted by: t-dubyah-d at July 22, 2013 03:09 PM (u6lBN)
Posted by: Sheriff Joe at July 22, 2013 03:09 PM (Gq4HH)
Oooh Senator McCain, time for your facial. C'mere big boy.
Posted by: GnuBreed at July 22, 2013 03:09 PM (cHZB7)
**Bob Uecker voice**
"Just when we thought the Obama administration's disastrous domestic policies had taken an insurmountable lead, here comes their incomprehensible foreign policy, surging back out front. Hang onto your hats sports fans, this year's Democrat Debacle Derby may come down to the wire."
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at July 22, 2013 03:10 PM (pxDth)
Posted by: Barry from the block at July 22, 2013 03:10 PM (WCe8r)
I think you mean "unlawful combatants". Yep, no uniform while armed in a combat zone can legally lead to a speedy, lengthy nap.
I sit corrected. IIRC, there's also that part about targeting civilians, too.
Not disposing of rabid animals in a rapid fashion only emboldens them.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at July 22, 2013 03:11 PM (0HooB)
"Just when we thought the Obama administration's disastrous domestic policies had taken an insurmountable lead, here comes their incomprehensible foreign policy, surging back out front. Hang onto your hats sports fans, this year's Democrat Debacle Derby may come down to the wire."
Needs the foul tip into Iran and N. Korea. heh.
Posted by: t-dubyah-d at July 22, 2013 03:14 PM (u6lBN)
Posted by: Trainer's looking to join a Militia. at July 22, 2013 03:21 PM (7EbAY)
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 22, 2013 03:28 PM (wR+pz)
Posted by: ChristyBlinky's Royal Ate-e-quat at July 22, 2013 03:31 PM (baL2B)
Posted by: WannabeAnglican at July 22, 2013 03:41 PM (F1wnk)
Posted by: Random at July 22, 2013 05:53 PM (kgEV0)
Too late to (another) dead Iraq thread, twice today. Just "for the drawer", as Soviet samizdat writers called it, to sum up the first thread:
* no, for the thousandth fucking time no, the US did not "arm" Iraq in the 1980s. Iraq was a filthy rich oil state in a blocking position to protect (at that time, in a real sense) other, even fucking filthier rich oil states, from Iran. They paid mostly cash. They actually had a pretty impressive cadre of educated technical and engineering types and were quite well organized (for an Arab state). They armed themselves, with their own $$$, Saudi/Kuwaiti/Gulfie $$$, and (well-rated) debt. They bought mostly Soviet-bloc arms (in design, if not origin). They bought some high-end specialty stuff from South Africa, Sweden, Italy. The USSR, China, Egypt, France, and others "armed Iraq". NOT the US. Our aid was almost entirely intel, provided late in the war, to forestall defeat in the southern/marshes/Basra campaigns. And the Kuwaiti tanker-reflagging - and related smash-mouth abuse of Iranian naval forces in the summer of 1987 - was to prevent Iranian horizontal escalation of the war against Iraqi allies/financiers/Gulfies. As for being an "ally" of Iraq, I recall very clearly the deputy chief of mission at our Baghdad embassy telling me in early 1988 that he was in the most hostile environment he'd ever seen, to include Sofia Bulgaria, in that era the coldest of the Cold War diplomatic environments behind the Iron Curtain.
* The 64 helos built for the Shah and then sold to Iraq (one of which sits at the Flying Leatherneck museum in San Diego, a bootleg Gulf War I trophy) made NO DIFFERENCE in 1991, notwithstanding Schwarzkopf's bizarre fixation on Iraqi helicopters. Iraq did not have an offensive doctrine, training, or experience in using helicopters as most imagine, and in any case Basra, Najaf, Karballah, and other southern rebellion centers were "pacified" via very low-tech methods (artillery, rounding up military-age males and shooting them in ditches - check out the front page of the NYT in June 2006 for a graphic illustration of this, as it was the "cleanest" evidence site found in connection with the Iraqi tribunal case from the 1991 repression).
* Leon Trotsky on a popsicle stick, WTF with the "we provoked the Sunnis" and "de-Ba'athification was a mistake" mythology? (let's toss in "disbanding the Iraqi Army" as it usually accompanies these silly misconceptions) Executive summary: nothing we did/didn't do in 2003/2004 had any impact on the Sunni decision to resist, save perhaps that we were TOO indulgent of their concerns, too fanatically devoted to assuring them they had a future instead of making them wonder about that and have a stake in behaving. You don't have to have spent several years there to understand this. Those in the comments who referred to tribal division and warring being fundamental features of Iraq were mostly right.
However, our "mismanagement" had nothing to do with provoking the Sunnis - on the contrary, the failure to come down on them like a billion tons of ripe dates starting in 2004 was the key mistake. Along with (1) ending the occupation far too soon, and (2) failing to acknowledge the war Iran was waging on us - actually, the dramatic escalation of the war they've waged since 1979 - and retaliate decisively. TF Black and McChrystal's stuff was all well and good, but no substitute for a major campaign of punishment of the Pasdaran and the Tehran regime, for which many options were available. (BTW, the perception that the US was in fact kicking Iranian ass would have helped both with the Sunnis, who are paranoid about Shi'ite allegiance to Tehran, and many Shi'a, who are hostile to Iran, to that regime's velayet-i-faqih governance, and who fought in their millions - enthusiastically against their co-religionists in the Iran-Iraq war.
* more than anything, my take-away from Iraq, personally and strategically, was/is that the US is now a fundamentally unserious country, and as such, a treacherous menace to its allies, its most motivated citizens, its fantastic heritage and influence on human history, and the principles fundamental to its creation. From the pathetic whining and lazy ignorance (abundantly illustrated on this morning's comment thread) of the "conservatives" to the despicable idiocy of the GOP "leadership" such as McConnell, to (of course) the loathsome and incomprehensible moral inversion and outrageously irresponsible behavior of most of the "press" and libs and Dems - it's doubtful any country in history ever betrayed its best citizens more damnably.
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