January 29, 2013

A Case for Optimism?
— Ace

Well, I guess that's why he calls himself the Gay Patriot West.

I don't know... I'm linking this because I think optimism is a Good Thing and I'd sure like everyone to feel good (including myself) but....

...uhhh...

He will not longer be able to use that issue (i.e., “tax the rich) against Republicans as effectively as he did in the campaign.

Well sure, anytime you completely lose on an issue your opponent can't use it against you as much. (But note only "as much" -- he can still say "These Republicans, who argued for tax breaks for billionaires...")

DOCTOR: I've got some good news, and some bad news.

PATIENT: Let me have the bad news first.

DOCTOR: You're going to be dead in three days.

PATIENT: Dead in three days? What's the good news?

DOCTOR: I'm banging your wife.

PATIENT: You're having an affair with my wife?

DOCTOR: Banging. I wouldn't dignify it as "an affair."

PATIENT: Well then you're banging my wife! How is the hell is that remotely good news?!

DOCTOR: You've got bigger things to worry about. How I envy you your perspective.

PATIENT: ...

DOCTOR: Anal, too.

Posted by: Ace at 02:48 PM | Comments (359)
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1 Yeah,I'm not optimistic.

Posted by: steevy at January 29, 2013 02:52 PM (9XBK2)

2 Can I buy pot from this guy?

Posted by: CAC at January 29, 2013 02:53 PM (mZgAF)

3 I endorse Optimism for Optimism's sake. (And that joke too.)

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 29, 2013 02:54 PM (CHnHn)

4 Nice stealth edit, ace.

Posted by: Sandra Fluke's solid gold diaphragm at January 29, 2013 02:54 PM (7xeJQ)

5 What does a Case of Optimism go for these days?

Posted by: garrett at January 29, 2013 02:54 PM (yT4PM)

6 He will not longer be able to use that issue (i.e., “tax the rich) against Republicans as effectively as he did in the campaign.





He's already won and will continue to press forward with his leftist agenda. The MFM will spin away like crazy for him and enough mouth breathers will buy it

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 29, 2013 02:55 PM (RRVBX)

7 Pretty sure it was going to burn anyway, might as well burn with a lefty at the helm.

Posted by: traye at January 29, 2013 02:55 PM (egENL)

8 But yeah, I don't endorse being optimistic about losing (ground).

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 29, 2013 02:55 PM (CHnHn)

9 The gay patriot? I guess yeah why not. I mean it was damn cold at valley forge

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 29, 2013 02:55 PM (9Bj8R)

10 let's take a page from the left's playbook and start using the phrase "lame duck president" like they did in jan 2004. Also, let's use the phrase "The Most Vile, Undead, Fly Master, Lord of the Unclean" to describe SCOAMF from here on in. Isn't it a tad spooky that he's emitting and attracting flies in January? Some D&D monsters and demigods research should clear up if SCOAMF is Baal, or just some Big Eared Assfuck. mockery...

Posted by: joeindc44 is now more concerned about Dark Ages 2.0 than Great Depression 2.0 at January 29, 2013 02:57 PM (QxSug)

11 case for optimism? Um, there's going to be no tech boom or Gingrich to save his bacon like Uncle Bill had. And even then, Gore lost. so there's that.

Posted by: joeindc44 is now more concerned about Dark Ages 2.0 than Great Depression 2.0 at January 29, 2013 02:58 PM (QxSug)

12 Of course they can and will use tax the rich. His followers don't care that  He also bribes the rich and uses the rich to further himself. All they care about is winning.

They know the score better than we do.
they don't actually have to really believe in the stuff, and if they did  it surely will be swallowed by the mind goblins.
see war .
see deficits
see unconstitutional.
what do they all have in common?

They actually said these things were non-negotiable pre Obama

unless their guy wins.
than everything useful remains.
even threats  tax the rich

Posted by: ette at January 29, 2013 02:58 PM (nqBYe)

13 I've lost all optimism.  I'm in a dark, dark mood.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 29, 2013 02:59 PM (UOM48)

14 The inevitable utter destruction of civilization will annihilate every copy of Matt Damon's new frackin movie.



Posted by: T.Hunter - let it burn at January 29, 2013 03:00 PM (EZl54)

15 It's like the Germans in June 1945, being optimistic about the war because Berlin won't be bombed any more

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 29, 2013 03:00 PM (RRVBX)

16

The Gay Patriot? HAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!

His reason for optimism: Gay Men can get married in 9 states.

Posted by: Capt. Obvious at January 29, 2013 03:00 PM (oyQVv)

17 I do however admire gay patriot for his optimism. and his site is nice

Posted by: ette at January 29, 2013 03:01 PM (nqBYe)

18 also, some lawyers out there might want to start using Writs of Mandamus against the Waiver King, Unclean Host of the Flies. I can't be the only one to still be getting a kick out of that. Then again, I'm still waiting for those 100,000 new teachers to come and save the economy.

Posted by: joeindc44 is now more concerned about Dark Ages 2.0 than Great Depression 2.0 at January 29, 2013 03:01 PM (QxSug)

19 Um can't he just say, "tax the rich more!  they STILL aren't paying their fair share!!!"

Posted by: DangerGirl at January 29, 2013 03:01 PM (GrtrJ)

20 "14 I've lost all optimism. I'm in a dark, dark mood. Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 29, 2013 06:59 PM (UOM4 " Meh. It's not so bad. The Universe still exists. :-)

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 29, 2013 03:01 PM (CHnHn)

21 The good news is, there aren't many passengers left to demand a refund.

Posted by: Luftschiffbau Zeppelin GmbH at January 29, 2013 03:01 PM (QKKT0)

22 I can't be the only one to still be getting a kick out of that. Then again, I'm still waiting for those 100,000 new teachers to come and save the economy. Posted by: joeindc44 is now more concerned about Dark Ages 2.0 than Great Depression 2.0 at January 29, 2013 07:01 PM (QxSug) They fired me from teaching. Of course I told some libtards to get fucked. They didn't like that.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 29, 2013 03:02 PM (l86i3)

23 I'm optimistic because he can't tax the rich since he's destroyed enough wealth, there aren't many left. And those that are left, are basically his donors who got richer from making donations to him.

Posted by: joeindc44 is now more concerned about Dark Ages 2.0 than Great Depression 2.0 at January 29, 2013 03:02 PM (QxSug)

24 16) you talking about the German command, or the German people?

Posted by: traye at January 29, 2013 03:02 PM (egENL)

25 Dems will say the rich need to pay more until they're paying 100% and even then they'll probably say the rich owe all those taxes they should have paid when it was below 100%.

Posted by: booger at January 29, 2013 03:03 PM (HI6wa)

26 You have herpes but, don't worry, the first and worst outbreak is behind you. You're wife is ugly and mean but, hey!, on the bright side, she'll probably never leave you.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 29, 2013 03:03 PM (piMMO)

27 "24 I can't be the only one to still be getting a kick out of that. Then again, I'm still waiting for those 100,000 new teachers to come and save the economy. Posted by: joeindc44 is now more concerned about Dark Ages 2.0 than Great Depression 2.0 at January 29, 2013 07:01 PM (QxSug) They fired me from teaching. Of course I told some libtards to get fucked. They didn't like that. Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 29, 2013 07:02 PM (l86i3) " Diversity. Freedom of Speech. Tolerance.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 29, 2013 03:03 PM (CHnHn)

28 I don't care anymore.

Posted by: soothsayer at January 29, 2013 03:03 PM (FC8Yl)

29 18 I do however admire gay patriot for his optimism. and his site is nice

Posted by: ette at January 29, 2013 07:01 PM (nqBYe)

 

He would probably prefer that you call his site "Fabulous"

Posted by: buzzion at January 29, 2013 03:03 PM (GULKT)

30 Oldsailor, getting fired as a teacher usually requires some R.Kelly shit. Then again, depends on where you teach.

Posted by: joeindc44 is now more concerned about Dark Ages 2.0 than Great Depression 2.0 at January 29, 2013 03:03 PM (QxSug)

31 you talking about the German command, or the German people? Posted by: traye at January 29, 2013 07:02 PM (egENL) That was back when wars were properly fought. There wasn't really a difference.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 29, 2013 03:03 PM (l86i3)

32 11 joeindc,
 
I don't know how we here at the HQ could have mocked him any more mercilessly.
 
Fat lot of good that did us.
 
Which reminds me, her too.

Posted by: GnuBreed at January 29, 2013 03:04 PM (ccXZP)

33 i also want to tax the rich
rich actors.
rich directors
rich media heads.
Immelt
soros


 I mean why can't we decide who rich are?

why are Rich  only those they choose to be rich

whch really means rich will split and middle class will be hit with the trillions of debt they asked for.

Posted by: ette at January 29, 2013 03:04 PM (nqBYe)

34 Obama runs Barter Town!

Posted by: zsasz at January 29, 2013 03:04 PM (MMC8r)

35 "29 You have herpes but, don't worry, the first and worst outbreak is behind you. You're wife is ugly and mean but, hey!, on the bright side, she'll probably never leave you. Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 29, 2013 07:03 PM (piMMO) " Well, the second one isn't so bad. Losing a lot of your stuff sucks.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 29, 2013 03:04 PM (CHnHn)

36 Yeah, man suddenly I feel LOTS better.....assuming there are elections in 2014 SCOAMF won't be able to get elected again...which would make sense since the next race is in 2016 and "legally" he can't run....

man thank God we raised those taxes and got a balanced budget in return...oh wait.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 03:04 PM (LRFds)

37 Posted by: soothsayer at January 29, 2013 07:03 PM (FC8Yl)

Honey badger don't give a . . .

Posted by: filbert at January 29, 2013 03:05 PM (05fcj)

38 The good news is, is that we won't refund everyone back. Still made a profit.

Posted by: Titantic PR Department at January 29, 2013 03:05 PM (F6KtL)

39 buzzion, haha, yes 's IS fabulous,  perhaps even more so marvelous .

but never boring.

Posted by: ette at January 29, 2013 03:05 PM (nqBYe)

40 The inevitable utter destruction of civilization will annihilate every copy of Matt Damon's new frackin movie.

That and the Cylon invasion

Posted by: zimriel at January 29, 2013 03:05 PM (QTHTd)

41 we'll never be rid of 'tax the rich/no tax cuts for the rich'

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 29, 2013 03:05 PM (8sCoq)

42 As soon as Amnesty passes John Boner will have presided over Republicans: Raising Taxes Rewarding Illegal behavior and increasing Democrat votes by 15 million Tanking the Republican brand even further among Republican party members Breaking the Hastert rule on numerous occasions to pass bills with a majority of Democrat votes and a handful of liberal Republicans. There is no reason to have the House, there is no reason to vote Republican until this fuck is removed as Speaker. There should be no optimism other than "when he finishes at least he won't cum in my eye...oh wait there it is in my eye at least it's not in my mouth"

Posted by: Mr. Pink at January 29, 2013 03:05 PM (++kZl)

43 I like carrots.

Posted by: soothsayer at January 29, 2013 03:05 PM (E7Qlq)

44 You can have my pessimism when you pry it from my cold, dead hands.

Posted by: GnuBreed at January 29, 2013 03:06 PM (ccXZP)

45 There's bad news and good news.

The bad news is I came in your mouth after I promised i wouldn't.

Oh, you noticed?

Well, anyway, the good news is if you give me another blow job right away, I won't come in your mouth again.

And if I do, there won't be as much.

Posted by: Warden at January 29, 2013 03:06 PM (HzhBE)

46 43 Zimreiel,

I dunno emotional teenagers in adult bodies on a quest to understand "god" in a hypersexualized angst....

I'm thinking they'll worship Matt Damon as a god....

Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 03:06 PM (LRFds)

47 Husband called me leaving work, on his way to his troop's Scout meeting.

An idiot commenter at WaPo said today that people need to go out and harm anyone working with the BSA.

My always upbeat husband is beat-down.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 29, 2013 03:07 PM (UOM48)

48 When Obama says suck, Boehner nods and gets on his knees.

Posted by: My GF has big boobies at January 29, 2013 03:07 PM (F6KtL)

49 Hate to say it but I'm solidly in the F' it camp. Even after I heard Rubio talk so purty on Rush today...wanted to call in a say "What difference does it make anyway???"

Posted by: rukiddingme? at January 29, 2013 03:07 PM (MbeEN)

50 I'm optimistic because Werner's divisions will reinforce our flank. *downfall parody reference, I don't have the right name

Posted by: joeindc44 is now more concerned about Dark Ages 2.0 than Great Depression 2.0 at January 29, 2013 03:07 PM (QxSug)

51 dang. I hate the last post was stepped on. I was looking forward to the flame war.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 29, 2013 03:07 PM (piMMO)

52 When the rolling brownouts come, it'll give everyone more quality time with their families.

So there's that.

Posted by: Warden at January 29, 2013 03:08 PM (HzhBE)

53 Oldsailor, getting fired as a teacher usually requires some R.Kelly shit. Then again, depends on where you teach. Posted by: joeindc44 is now more concerned about Dark Ages 2.0 than Great Depression 2.0 at January 29, 2013 07:03 PM (QxSug) Not true, Best the senior Math Dept Teacher by a avereage of 18 points with your sixth graders, rat out a administrator who tries to blackmail a probabtionary teacher, me, for perscription drugs. Then call the principal a liar after she changed a dozen or more students grades to reach a milestone. They pretty much don't want you around anymore.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 29, 2013 03:08 PM (l86i3)

54 i also want to tax the rich
rich actors.
rich directors
rich media heads.
Immelt
soros


I mean why can't we decide who rich are?

why are Rich only those they choose to be rich

whch really means rich will split and middle class will be hit with the trillions of debt they asked for.

Posted by: ette at January 29, 2013 07:04 PM (nqBYe)




Funny how all of their tax breaks weren't touched and funny how the MFM didn't mention it.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 29, 2013 03:08 PM (RRVBX)

55 Oh good, now I know where he is.

Posted by: General Hooker, responding to the news General Jackson rolled up on his flank at January 29, 2013 03:09 PM (F6KtL)

56 "50 Husband called me leaving work, on his way to his troop's Scout meeting. An idiot commenter at WaPo said today that people need to go out and harm anyone working with the BSA. My always upbeat husband is beat-down. Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 29, 2013 07:07 PM (UOM4 " Tolerance. Leftists are very virtuous.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 29, 2013 03:09 PM (CHnHn)

57 As an artisit who now has healthcare, I'm getting a kick out of a lot of these comments.

Posted by: CT Moron 2.2 at January 29, 2013 03:09 PM (Xf6HL)

58 For the moment, we still have Governors Walker and Snyder? I keep getting refills? My wife is getting treatment for her asthma? I just began eating higher-fat foods again...including bacon? Obama can't run for re-election? My wife is awesome? I have a telescope? I don't have ass cancer? I mean, theres reasons to be optimistic and all, but the political sphere doesn't hold a lot. Unless the Dems go full-tard and cost themselves a lot of Senate seats next year.

Posted by: CAC at January 29, 2013 03:09 PM (mZgAF)

59 I am pessimistically optimistic.

Posted by: Long Island at January 29, 2013 03:10 PM (hl8SI)

60 When the rolling brownouts come, it'll give everyone more quality time with their families. So there's that. **** You're car was involved in a hit and run accident. The good news is that you don't have full coverage insurance so, no deductible to pay!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 29, 2013 03:10 PM (piMMO)

61 There wasn't an obesity problem in Hitler's concentration camps.

That was definitely a plus.

Posted by: Warden at January 29, 2013 03:10 PM (HzhBE)

62 Well, they have less ammo now.

Posted by: General Burnside, Optimsm at Fredericksburg after three charges up the hill at January 29, 2013 03:10 PM (F6KtL)

63 Tree bark and leaf sandwiches are organic.

Posted by: T.Hunter - let it burn at January 29, 2013 03:10 PM (EZl54)

64 I am pessimistically optimistic. **** The Stockdale Paradox. Profound philosophy/strategy that.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 29, 2013 03:10 PM (piMMO)

65 Wer ist 'Werner'???

Posted by: Stiener at January 29, 2013 03:11 PM (Dll6b)

66 ...just heard a stupid clip of ademocrat bitching that the 2nd Amendment only protects the citizen's right to own a musket. By that rationale, her indoor "plumbing" to be a piss pit, her lighting to be limited to candles, heating by wood burning fireplace where she cooks meals as well, she can expect her medical care to be limited to leaches bleeding her out, and by no means would she be offered abortions.

Posted by: panzernashorn at January 29, 2013 03:11 PM (MhA4j)

67 Funny how all of their tax breaks weren't touched and funny how the MFM didn't mention it.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 29, 2013 07:08 PM (RRVBX)


Uh hmm, i had read,  they were kept nice and cozy,  well you know all that campaigning for Obama should come with a very nice  bonus.

Posted by: ette at January 29, 2013 03:11 PM (nqBYe)

68 As an artisit who now has healthcare, I'm getting a kick out of a lot of these comments. **** As a what?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 29, 2013 03:11 PM (piMMO)

69 scheiss

Posted by: Steiner at January 29, 2013 03:11 PM (Dll6b)

70 Wo ist...

Posted by: panzernashorn at January 29, 2013 03:12 PM (MhA4j)

71

45...There is no reason to have the House, there is no reason to vote Republican until this fuck is removed as Speaker.

 

Is that the only way we can get rid of Boehner? ...Lose the House?

 

I guess so.

 

Posted by: wheatie at January 29, 2013 03:12 PM (BZMZX)

72 As a what? Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 29, 2013 07:11 PM (piMMO) A bullshit artist.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 29, 2013 03:12 PM (l86i3)

73 "57 45 i'm holding my judgment on the immigration thing until we see what takes shape in the House recall they were the source of the opposition to Bush's plan. yeah, that was then, but we'll see. Posted by: JDP at January 29, 2013 07:08 PM (60GaT) " Whatever gets passed should be linked to George Bush. We need to take as much credit as possible. And frankly, we deserve it. It was our initiative. Fuck the Democrats.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 29, 2013 03:13 PM (CHnHn)

74 A bullshit artist. **** Awww! That makes more sense.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 29, 2013 03:13 PM (piMMO)

75

Ah here it is, Steiner's assault will bring it under control...

that's why i'm optimistic

Posted by: joeindc44 feels better already at January 29, 2013 03:13 PM (QxSug)

76 Hildebeast is going to be on with Greta tonight.

I have an optimistic feeling Greta won't be tossing softballs.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 29, 2013 03:14 PM (UOM48)

77 Husband called me leaving work, on his way to his troop's Scout meeting.

An idiot commenter at WaPo said today that people need to go out and harm anyone working with the BSA.

My always upbeat husband is beat-down.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 29, 2013 07:07 PM (UOM4

I have found their answer to almost any dissent these days is threatening to kill , zimmerman,  his family, breitbart, hell obscure video guy.


the death cult.

trustworthy with power.

Posted by: ette at January 29, 2013 03:14 PM (nqBYe)

78 So, is the new headline up at Drudge good news, or bad?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 29, 2013 03:14 PM (piMMO)

79 I'm optimistic because the democrats couldn't hit an elephant at this ra...

Posted by: joeindc44 feels better already at January 29, 2013 03:14 PM (QxSug)

80 I was looking forward to the flame war.
Get lost skinny/fatty.

Posted by: andycanuck at January 29, 2013 03:15 PM (ORGYc)

81 I have an optimistic feeling Greta won't be tossing softballs. Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 29, 2013 07:14 PM (UOM4 Greta was pissed about the tards going after fox. I think shrillary will be yelling and suffering from another clot by the time thats over.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 29, 2013 03:15 PM (l86i3)

82 [...just heard a stupid clip of ademocrat bitching that the 2nd Amendment only protects the citizen's right to own a musket.]

Then the 1st amendment only protects the spoken word and print, not television or any other electronic communication.

And the 3rd amendment is limited to houses. Soldiers can take up residence in your apartment and drink up all your PBR and eat all your Hot Pockets whenever they please.

Posted by: Warden at January 29, 2013 03:16 PM (HzhBE)

83

@53: "I'm optimistic because Werner's divisions will reinforce our flank.

*downfall parody reference, I don't have the right name"

 

Wenck.

Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at January 29, 2013 03:16 PM (FsqHK)

84 70 Panzernashorn,

Offer to let them help you sign away your evil 2d Amendment rights....

*I am entitled to the most advanced sidearm or shoulder fired weapon available, personal artillery, and can outfit a naval vessel to engage in and follow all laws at sea pursuant to the issuing of a letter of marque."

Then go out and buy a fully auto M-8 AGS, Beretta M-93R, and outfit a PT boat to go engage in pirate retirement counseling.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 03:16 PM (LRFds)

85 On a positive note, there are a lot of openings for new dukes and earls.

Posted by: Charles VI at January 29, 2013 03:16 PM (QKKT0)

86

Gay patriot vs. Brokeback Arnold


Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 29, 2013 03:16 PM (Yk2LN)

87 "81 Husband called me leaving work, on his way to his troop's Scout meeting. An idiot commenter at WaPo said today that people need to go out and harm anyone working with the BSA. My always upbeat husband is beat-down. Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 29, 2013 07:07 PM (UOM4 I have found their answer to almost any dissent these days is threatening to kill , zimmerman, his family, breitbart, hell obscure video guy. the death cult. trustworthy with power. Posted by: ette at January 29, 2013 07:14 PM (nqBYe) " This.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 29, 2013 03:16 PM (CHnHn)

88 I have an optimistic feeling Greta won't be tossing softballs. Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 29, 2013 07:14 PM (UOM4 Greta was pissed about the tards going after fox. I think shrillary will be yelling and suffering from another clot by the time thats over. *** She has been getting a bit more ballsy these last few months. Benghazi pissed her off.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 29, 2013 03:16 PM (piMMO)

89

"On a positive note, there are a lot of openings for new dukes and earls."

You could be the duke of earl.


Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 29, 2013 03:17 PM (Yk2LN)

90 You shall not pass. http://is.gd/M4afk9

Posted by: toby928© presents at January 29, 2013 03:17 PM (QupBk)

91 So, is the new headline up at Drudge good news, or bad? Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 29, 2013 07:14 PM (piMMO) We'll have to see. Time will tell. How's that for committing? Actually i have no freaken idea. I mean who does. We really have no idea how much influence the Muslim Brotherhood has with the Military and the Military is the key. If they Muzzies have promised the Military the Keys to the Kingdom, then they will probably prevail. And If I were the Military in Egypt I wold not be so fast to cross the Muslim Brotherhood. They are still the majority in Egypt and they are ruthless.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 29, 2013 03:18 PM (9Bj8R)

92 82 It's like Syria-- scumbags on both sides. They don't get worse, they only get different.

Posted by: zsasz at January 29, 2013 03:19 PM (MMC8r)

93 What does a Case of Optimism go for these days? Five bucks, same as in town.

Posted by: toby928© presents at January 29, 2013 03:19 PM (QupBk)

94 Re: the second amendment, note that the damn thing says it's for a well armed milita...self defense, eh? Not for hunting. I was thinking the same thing recently, so fine, first amendment only applies to mechanical, horse powered printing presses. Sorry, new tech applies there to both. Of course, my expectation of privacy under 4th amendment is not tech related (for now) and instead based on, um, basic observational tools from back then. Which is awesome.

Posted by: joeindc44 is now more concerned about Dark Ages 2.0 than Great Depression 2.0 at January 29, 2013 03:19 PM (QxSug)

95 She has been getting a bit more ballsy these last few months. Benghazi pissed her off. Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 29, 2013 07:16 PM (piMMO) Greta is fair. However, if I ever commit a major felony, I want her in the seat next to me at my trial.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 29, 2013 03:19 PM (l86i3)

96 So, is the new headline up at Drudge good news, or bad?

Good news. Yes, these are Nika-rioters, Greens against the Blues. But anything that discredits the Muslim Brotherhood (=Hamas) is good news for the rest of us.

Posted by: zimriel at January 29, 2013 03:19 PM (QTHTd)

97 >>He will not longer be able to use that issue (i.e., “tax the rich) against Republicans as effectively as he did in the campaign.




Yeah, and he won't legally be able to run again either, but what difference at this point does that make?

....and that's the good news

Posted by: ontherocks at January 29, 2013 03:19 PM (aZ6ew)

98 The Left Coast will starve to death 3 hours before the rest of us do.

Posted by: T.Hunter - let it burn at January 29, 2013 03:19 PM (EZl54)

99

Moochelle has given up on the "Let's Move" thing. Maybe she's fixing to retire from public life. That would be cause for celebration.

Posted by: ALH at January 29, 2013 03:20 PM (eqV3Q)

100 "84 "Whatever gets passed should be linked to George Bush. We need to take as much credit as possible." not sure what exactly you're saying here. we can't out-immigration the Dems, and frankly it's bad policy regardless of the politics. Posted by: JDP at January 29, 2013 07:15 PM (60GaT) " George Bush was a good man. And a good Christian. And a great man. You, personally, don't agree with him. I get it. I didn't either (on this issue). But things change.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 29, 2013 03:20 PM (CHnHn)

101 I'm optimistic because they be firing bitches up in CNN, firing all them bitches out the door. Hide yo editor, hide your journalist, they be firing everyone up in CNN. that drudge headline?

Posted by: joeindc44 is now more concerned about Dark Ages 2.0 than Great Depression 2.0 at January 29, 2013 03:20 PM (QxSug)

102 Re : Drudge . It depends . Does the article provide an adress to ship free ammo ?

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at January 29, 2013 03:21 PM (BYxr7)

103 >Is that the only way we can get rid of Boehner? ...Lose the House?

primary his dumb ass and win

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 29, 2013 03:21 PM (8sCoq)

104 **An idiot commenter at WaPo said today that people need to go out and harm anyone working with the BSA. My always upbeat husband is beat-down.** this is the wage of not holding left wing abuses to account. Bush should've RICO'd ACORN and the SEIU

Posted by: joeindc44 is now more concerned about Dark Ages 2.0 than Great Depression 2.0 at January 29, 2013 03:21 PM (QxSug)

105 Bring back Newt and/or Delay

Posted by: joeindc44 is now more concerned about Dark Ages 2.0 than Great Depression 2.0 at January 29, 2013 03:22 PM (QxSug)

106 In regards to the BSA, now the atheists are clamoring for the organization to drop "God" from the pledge.

'tards at WaPo were saying "There are no Muslims, Hindus or Jews in Scouting!!!111!!!" which is an absolute lie.

Our own troop has Jews and Hindus.  There are Muslim troops.

However, we Must Forbid God from being mentioned in the Pledge.

I'm beginning to give up all hope for what's left of this country.

A fish rots from the head down (I'm looking at you, Barry, you damned fly-attracting "thing").

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 29, 2013 03:22 PM (UOM48)

107 Speaking of Drudge, check out the picture of Kerry...he looks like a demented psychopath.

Posted by: Mayday at January 29, 2013 03:22 PM (F3s39)

108 Soledad O'Brien has been canned from the 7-9am spot on CNN. I hate her. This makes me happy, happy happy.

Posted by: ALH at January 29, 2013 03:23 PM (eqV3Q)

109 And any instability in Egypt is bad for the West, Bad for Israel, and bad for the West. And much of this instability can be traced directly to some skinny dumb son of a bitch undermining Mubarak

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 29, 2013 03:23 PM (9Bj8R)

110 Taxing the rich is like trying to squeeze water from a stone. The unpleasant truth is that to cut our fiscal knot we're going to have to tax everyone, and all Americans are going to have to content themselves with fewer, more modest government services, smaller entitlements and a smaller military.

Posted by: Jordan at January 29, 2013 03:24 PM (Hz1zc)

111 Strong career prospects in the corpse stacking and disposal fields.

Posted by: T.Hunter - let it burn at January 29, 2013 03:24 PM (EZl54)

112 Jane D'oh, with respect, the Pledge was a fascist oath from the get-go. The whole thing should be scrapped.

At the least you should have read "Liberal Fascism" on the topic of Bellamy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bellamy_salute

Posted by: zimriel at January 29, 2013 03:26 PM (QTHTd)

113 Hey if Egypt is falling apart and going to shit, down the old crapper, sure glad we sent them some more F-16s

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 29, 2013 03:26 PM (9Bj8R)

114 I'm a Marxist. Posted by: Jordan at January 29, 2013 06:27 PM (Hz1zc)

Posted by: Jordaan [/i] [/b] at January 29, 2013 03:26 PM (xz0nG)

115 "111 In regards to the BSA, now the atheists are clamoring for the organization to drop "God" from the pledge. 'tards at WaPo were saying "There are no Muslims, Hindus or Jews in Scouting!!!111!!!" which is an absolute lie. Our own troop has Jews and Hindus. There are Muslim troops. However, we Must Forbid God from being mentioned in the Pledge. I'm beginning to give up all hope for what's left of this country. A fish rots from the head down (I'm looking at you, Barry, you damned fly-attracting "thing"). Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 29, 2013 07:22 PM (UOM4 " 'god is Evil.' -- Atheist Insight

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 29, 2013 03:26 PM (CHnHn)

116

108 >Is that the only way we can get rid of Boehner? ...Lose the House?


 

primary his dumb ass and win

 

--------

 

But his district is in Ohio...and they apparently love him there.

 

Posted by: wheatie at January 29, 2013 03:26 PM (BZMZX)

117 I'm still trying the no anger thing as suggested on this very blog, but when I see BS like the "heckling" propaganda and the stalking of Mattera by that NYPD goon and I'm not allowed to pound my fists on the table, all that's left is melancholy. Optimism would be quite a stretch, although with some effort I could muster a half-hearted LIB.

Posted by: Xander Crews at January 29, 2013 03:27 PM (yuJ03)

118 "114 And any instability in Egypt is bad for the West, Bad for Israel, and bad for the West. And much of this instability can be traced directly to some skinny dumb son of a bitch undermining Mubarak Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 29, 2013 07:23 PM (9Bj8R) " This.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 29, 2013 03:27 PM (CHnHn)

119 Please sir, I want some more...of your government bureaucracy in my bum

Posted by: Oliver Twist- What He Also Said, Volume Three at January 29, 2013 03:27 PM (F6KtL)

120 God isn't evil, but adding God to a fascist oath doesn't make God any more holy

Posted by: zimriel at January 29, 2013 03:27 PM (QTHTd)

121 i get the sense that Jordan sees himself as some objective straight-talker, when he's really just repeating bland CW His stuffed animals listen to him in rapt attention.

Posted by: zsasz at January 29, 2013 03:27 PM (MMC8r)

122 Taxing the rich is like trying to squeeze water from a stone. The unpleasant truth is that to cut our fiscal knot we're going to have to tax everyone, and all Americans are going to have to content themselves with fewer, more modest government services, smaller entitlements and a smaller military.

Posted by: Jordan at January 29, 2013 07:24 PM (Hz1zc)


You do see he problem don' you?


Your side has been telling half the country  only some "other" will be responsible for  VOTING  for  goodies.


quite dishonest isn't it?



Posted by: ette at January 29, 2013 03:28 PM (nqBYe)

123 "117 Jane D'oh, with respect, the Pledge was a fascist oath from the get-go. The whole thing should be scrapped. At the least you should have read "Liberal Fascism" on the topic of Bellamy. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bellamy_salute Posted by: zimriel at January 29, 2013 07:26 PM (QTHTd) " FOR FUCKS SAKE.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 29, 2013 03:28 PM (CHnHn)

124 I'm a Marxist. Posted by: Jordan at January 29, 2013 06:27 PM (Hz1zc) Posted by: Jordaan at January 29, 2013 07:26 PM (xz0nG) The Three Stooges were better...

Posted by: The Un-Shemp at January 29, 2013 03:29 PM (Vk2pI)

125 Later, all. God bless.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 29, 2013 03:29 PM (CHnHn)

126 I'm not too optimistic about this movie I've never seen,but hey,Brian Dennehy's in it

Posted by: nog rock at January 29, 2013 03:29 PM (tdaam)

127 126 God isn't evil, but adding God to a fascist oath doesn't make God any more holy

Posted by: zimriel at January 29, 2013 07:27 PM (QTHTd




So the Boy Scout oath is fascist? 



I really, truly do give up.  People like you and your fellow minions deserve to go down with this country.  And go down, it will.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 29, 2013 03:29 PM (UOM48)

128 The "fascist" Boy Scout oath:

On my honor, I will do my best
To do my duty to God and my country and to obey the Scout Law;
To help other people at all times;
To keep myself physically strong, mentally awake and morally straight.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 29, 2013 03:31 PM (UOM48)

129 The progressives of the early 19th century came up with the pledge,that is true."Under God" wasn't added until the 50's.I don't find anything objectionable about the pledge but that's the truth.

Posted by: steevy at January 29, 2013 03:31 PM (9XBK2)

130 "126 God isn't evil, but adding God to a fascist oath doesn't make God any more holy" I'm an Eagle Scout, but the idea of administering an oath to other people's children on a weekly basis makes my skin crawl. How can you expect an eleven year-old boy to understand what it means to give an oath, even a reasonable one, which the Boy Scout Oath is not?

Posted by: Jordan at January 29, 2013 03:31 PM (Hz1zc)

131 In his first interview since the Pentagon opened ground combat jobs to women, the commandant of the Marine Corps said some occupations may ultimately remain closed if only a small number qualify. The Marines will not lower physical standards for certain specialties, Gen. James Amos told USA TODAY. "We can't afford to lower standards," he said. "We can't make adjustments on what's required on the battlefield. "That's not why America has a Marine Corps," he said.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 29, 2013 03:31 PM (9Bj8R)

132 >But his district is in Ohio...and they apparently love him there.

Posted by: wheatie at January 29, 2013 07:26 PM (BZMZX)


yeah, nobody votes out their Congressthing when it's in a position of power

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 29, 2013 03:31 PM (8sCoq)

133 Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 29, 2013 07:23 PM (9Bj8R)

An intelligent, less arrogant and ignorant president could have quietly pushed Mubarak out. It could have been done without much fuss, and the cold peace between Israel and Egypt would have survived.

Now? I would not be surprised by a hot war between Egypt and Israel.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 29, 2013 03:31 PM (GsoHv)

134 "A Case for Optimism?"

When freaking John Kerry can be confirmed as the Secretary of State with only _three_ Republican Senators bothering to dissent, there is no case for optimism.

There is, however, a case for torches and pitchforks. Plus primary challenges.

Posted by: torquewrench at January 29, 2013 03:31 PM (gqT4g)

135
The goods news is that the champagne is chilled.

Posted by: R.M.S Titanic at January 29, 2013 03:31 PM (mETGQ)

136  I'm a Marxist.

Posted by: Jordan at January 29, 2013 06:27 PM (Hz1zc)

Posted by: Jordaan [/i] [/b] at January 29, 2013 03:31 PM (xz0nG)

137 The hell hey won't use "tax the rich" against us. Since when has the left ever been tethered to facts?

Posted by: Truman North, now with 73% more of the same at January 29, 2013 03:32 PM (vEbNc)

138 Well.....my head has exploded now. I hope they're happy.

Posted by: Dept. of Accuracy Dept. at January 29, 2013 03:32 PM (MhA4j)

139 Jordon,  what your side advocated for was stealing and not  attaining  freedom or the future  self determination and  responsibilty , Now they will  owe  govt for their future viability.

would you do this to your children? why would you do it to others children?

Posted by: ette at January 29, 2013 03:32 PM (nqBYe)

140

@108: "Is that the only way we can get rid of Boehner? ...Lose the House?
primary his dumb ass and win "

 

Is that what happened?  Did I just lose a primary?  Quick, someone get me two candy-stripers, a fifth of bourbon, and a bottle of Nembutal.

Posted by: JFK in Parkland Hospital with a splitting headache at January 29, 2013 03:32 PM (FsqHK)

141 Jordan is the swiss army knife of concern trolls. He's in agreement on every issue, EXCEPT....

Posted by: zsasz at January 29, 2013 03:32 PM (MMC8r)

142 135 Jane D'oh,

Yeah I'm really a member of the HY for having that oath in my heart...

hey you know what is *not* fascist at all?

http://youtu.be/wOtGr1JFCnE

Obama Youth...

just like the Boy Scouts eh?

Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 03:33 PM (LRFds)

143 Posted by: Jordan at January 29, 2013 07:31 PM (Hz1zc)

You are getting tedious.

Disagreeing with everything may work in high school debate club, but not around here.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 29, 2013 03:33 PM (GsoHv)

144

I'm an Eagle Scout, but the idea of administering an oath to other people's children on a weekly basis makes my skin crawl. How can you expect an eleven year-old boy to understand what it means to give an oath, even a reasonable one, which the Boy Scout Oath is not?

=================================================

 

Does Obama killing people with drones overseas make your skin crawl as well?

Posted by: My GF has big boobies at January 29, 2013 03:33 PM (F6KtL)

145 morons still don't know what fascist means. Somehow, the German Socialist Worker's Party and its ideology is boiled down to patriotism. Right? That's what WWII was about? Morons.

Posted by: joeindc44 is now more concerned about Dark Ages 2.0 than Great Depression 2.0 at January 29, 2013 03:33 PM (QxSug)

146 I'm an Eagle Scout, but the idea of administering an oath to other people's children on a weekly basis makes my skin crawl. How can you expect an eleven year-old boy to understand what it means to give an oath, even a reasonable one, which the Boy Scout Oath is not?

Posted by: Jordan at January 29, 2013 07:31 PM (Hz1zc




My son is an Eagle Scout. 



You claim to own every gun ever made, and now you're an Eagle Scout?  If you weren't intelligent enough to know what the oath meant, you didn't deserve your Eagle.   And the pledge makes your skin crawl? 



Why don't you crawl back under a bridge.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 29, 2013 03:34 PM (UOM48)

147 would you do this to your children? why would you do it to others children?

He thinks the East Bloc looked like a cool way to live.  In other words, he's one of Lenin's useful idiots.

Posted by: Charles VI at January 29, 2013 03:34 PM (QKKT0)

148 but whatever, if the oath is too much for the fairer members of our sex, then so be it. They can join the Oprah book club.

Posted by: joeindc44 is now more concerned about Dark Ages 2.0 than Great Depression 2.0 at January 29, 2013 03:34 PM (QxSug)

149

@126: "God isn't evil"

We respectfully disagree.

Posted by: 99.999% of the animals, and everyone on earth not related to Noah at January 29, 2013 03:34 PM (FsqHK)

150 I would not be surprised by a hot war between Egypt and Israel. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 29, 2013 07:31 PM (GsoHv) There is so much going down the crapper in the Middle East because of lack of US Leadership and the policies of that dumb SOB commie bastard in the White House, that almost anything could happen at anytime

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 29, 2013 03:34 PM (9Bj8R)

151 So the Boy Scout oath is fascist?

You said "the pledge". The Boy Scout Oath is something else again. I thought you meant the Pledge of Allegiance, since you said "pledge" in your original post. My mistake.

I really, truly do give up. People like you and your fellow minions deserve to go down

I deserve to be corrected when I misread something that you mislabeled, true, but saying I deserve to "go down" for it is overstating the case a bit.

Sorry.

Posted by: zimriel at January 29, 2013 03:35 PM (QTHTd)

152 Sock fail

Posted by: Cicero, Semiautomatic Assault Commenter at January 29, 2013 03:35 PM (QKKT0)

153 "morons still don't know what fascist means." Or Marxist, Socialist or Communist. This community uses them simply as epithets, not as denotation.

Posted by: Jordan at January 29, 2013 03:35 PM (Hz1zc)

154 watch me shimmy. watch me shake under a canopy of amorphous clouds

Posted by: house built on sand at January 29, 2013 03:35 PM (I88Jc)

155 I would not be surprised by a hot war between Egypt and Israel. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 29, 2013 07:31 PM (GsoHv) Feature, not bug.

Posted by: Jordan's Messiah at January 29, 2013 03:35 PM (MMC8r)

156 Posted by: My GF has big boobies at January 29, 2013 07:33 PM (F6KtL) 1 this name is a lie

Posted by: CAC at January 29, 2013 03:35 PM (mZgAF)

157 137 Jordan,

http://youtu.be/wOtGr1JFCnE

How Indeed?

Hey you know what?

I knew what the oath was.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 03:36 PM (LRFds)

158 "Wer ist"  =  who is

"Wo" auf Deutsch  = where


Keine Rosen ohne Dornen...........

Posted by: Steiner at January 29, 2013 03:36 PM (Dll6b)

159 @122 - Wheatie, he's from West Chester, just NE of Cincinnati and it's pretentious RINO as you can get. Boehner will be around for a while.

Posted by: ErikW on the damned phone at January 29, 2013 03:36 PM (oLXEb)

160 ack, whatever.

 anyway lets go after the rich , good and hard and when they run out of  funds in a few months  because it certainly won't last long. we will move to the middle class, It's not like they actually should own anything anyway . more than another.  that will last a few more mths because jobs will be scarce after the rich are broke or flee.

still i want to be sure every Rich will be on the fairness list to be taken from.

This is somehow NOT fair , just choosing  those yu dislike for confinscation of their asets.

and awfully familiar at the same time.

Posted by: ette at January 29, 2013 03:37 PM (nqBYe)

161

137...I'm an Eagle Scout...

 

Posted by: Jordan at January 29, 2013 07:31 PM (Hz1zc)

 

I find this really hard to believe.

Posted by: wheatie at January 29, 2013 03:37 PM (BZMZX)

162

Or Marxist, Socialist or Communist. This community uses them simply as epithets, not as denotation.

=====================================================

 

You mean like how Dems use rich, white, big business, capitalism as epithets? No way. NO. WAY.

Posted by: My GF has big boobies at January 29, 2013 03:37 PM (F6KtL)

163 Jordan, lassen Sie sich umficken

Posted by: Steiner at January 29, 2013 03:37 PM (Dll6b)

164 Don't worry, Jordan, I'm a radical libertarian/conservative and I get abused around here too. Maybe we two should just leave?

Posted by: [b]s[/b]hit [b]h[/b]ead at January 29, 2013 03:37 PM (ORGYc)

165 Jordan Open your mouth real wide for my elephantine dong

Posted by: The Second Amendment at January 29, 2013 03:37 PM (lD8ju)

166

#104  I believe Michelle's dropping of the "Let's Move" program is being done in order to gier a serious and more dignified public personna.

This is in preparation for her running for the White House in 2016.

I am convinced they are going to try this.  It's the easiest way to give Obama a 3rd term.

Posted by: Miss Marple at January 29, 2013 03:38 PM (GoIUi)

167 Just let the stupid turd troll die like an unattended potted plant.

Posted by: ontherocks at January 29, 2013 03:38 PM (aZ6ew)

168 137...I'm an Eagle Scout...

Posted by: Jordan at January 29, 2013 07:31 PM (Hz1zc)

I find this really hard to believe.

Posted by: wheatie at January 29, 2013 07:37 PM (BZMZX)


Jordan is also a Miss Universe finalist.

Posted by: Cicero, Semiautomatic Assault Commenter at January 29, 2013 03:38 PM (QKKT0)

169 When amnesty gets passed and Pelosi gets the speakership back in two years. I hope she takes that ridiculously oversized novelty gavel she used to usher in obamacare and dents Boehners fucking forehead. There, now you have something to cry about. Stay thirsty bitches!!!!!!!!

Posted by: wattyler1381 at January 29, 2013 03:38 PM (F2Vrz)

170 Things are looking pretty good I've got Jackson coming up in reserve . Oh Shit ! Lee overheard at Chancellorsville .

Posted by: awkward davies at January 29, 2013 03:39 PM (USjX1)

171 158 I would not be surprised by a hot war between Egypt and Israel.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 29, 2013 07:31 PM (GsoHv)


That should be interesting.
With Egypt swirling the toilet along the Arab military motto of "We don't do maintenance".

Posted by: R.M.S Titanic at January 29, 2013 03:39 PM (mETGQ)

172 That should be interesting.  With Egypt swirling the toilet along the Arab military motto of "We don't do maintenance".

Or training.

Posted by: Cicero, Semiautomatic Assault Commenter at January 29, 2013 03:39 PM (QKKT0)

173 JDP any euro party with "democratic" in it's name is left wing. You know how you can tell the right wing European parties? The American press hates them.

Posted by: Truman North, now with 73% more of the same at January 29, 2013 03:39 PM (vEbNc)

174 flame war

gets rid of the bad blood

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 29, 2013 03:39 PM (8sCoq)

175 I got as far as First Class, which means that I got the first-aid merit badge but not much else.

Probably "First Class" should be renamed given that the highest rank there is actually "Eagle"

Posted by: zimriel at January 29, 2013 03:40 PM (QTHTd)

176 I only destabilized North Africa to tie up Israel from attacking Iran.

Posted by: Jordan's Messiah at January 29, 2013 03:40 PM (MMC8r)

177 I am incredibly optimistic that I can eat this entire cherry pie.


Obligatory - http://youtu.be/OjyZKfdwlng



Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Take us away. at January 29, 2013 03:40 PM (Gk3SS)

178 I believe Michelle's dropping of the "Let's Move" program is being done in order to gier a serious and more dignified public personna. This is in preparation for her running for the White House in 2016. I am convinced they are going to try this. It's the easiest way to give Obama a 3rd term. *** She won't run. She doesn't even like D.C. from what I can tell. Besides, she'll be in very high demand at society functions and speaking engagements for the rest of her life. Lots of OOOHS! and AHHHHS! ahead for her.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 29, 2013 03:40 PM (piMMO)

179

1 this name is a lie

=============

She has big ones.

Posted by: My GF has big boobies at January 29, 2013 03:40 PM (F6KtL)

180 Posted by: My GF has big boobies at January 29, 2013 07:37 PM (F6KtL)

CAC says your name is a lie.

Until you provide evidence that it is true, I will not read any of your comments and I am going to hold my breath and stamp my feet!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 29, 2013 03:40 PM (GsoHv)

181

 >>>the Arab military motto of "We don't do maintenance".

 

Nonsense.  They check the goats oil levels twice a day!

Posted by: garrett at January 29, 2013 03:40 PM (Kabs6)

182 "of course there's an obvious line between patriotism and a very particular, intense ethnic nationalism, but i've never really bought into the argument that Nazism was left-wing, especially not on the basis of their name (check out the decidedly non-democratic Democratic Republics in the Cold War for another example)" William Shirer, in his tome, does a good job of explaining how the party once included socialists and supporters of labor, but those elements were purged from the party in the 1920s. Increasingly, the party discarded ideology and became a functional means to power for Hitler and his clique.

Posted by: Jordan at January 29, 2013 03:40 PM (Hz1zc)

183 George Wallace got around the two-term limit by getting his wife elected after him---but that was Alabama in 1970


look away, look away, look away, Dixie-land

Posted by: Steiner at January 29, 2013 03:41 PM (Dll6b)

184 Will Hillary be wearing her special X-Ray glasses that allowed her to see Huma's poont?

Posted by: TexasJew at January 29, 2013 03:41 PM (lD8ju)

185 184 Jones in CO,

I need to find my flak jacket....

Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 03:41 PM (LRFds)

186 >She won't run. She doesn't even like D.C. from what I can tell.


plus the 40 or 50 lbs of lobster she horks down every week couldn't be hidden from the public for long

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 29, 2013 03:42 PM (8sCoq)

187 cherry pie?

perk?

i also like cherry bomb. (tune)

Posted by: ette at January 29, 2013 03:42 PM (nqBYe)

188 I'm going to be Minority Leader for years and years to come!

Posted by: J. Boehner at January 29, 2013 03:42 PM (BeSEI)

189 Posted by: R.M.S Titanic at January 29, 2013 07:39 PM (mETGQ)

Well, they are getting new Abrams and F16s, so it's going to take a while before the new stuff breaks.

Thank you Barack Hussein Obama.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 29, 2013 03:42 PM (GsoHv)

190 That should be interesting. With Egypt swirling the toilet along the Arab military motto of "We don't do maintenance". Posted by: R.M.S Titanic at January 29, 2013 07:39 PM (mETGQ) 182 That should be interesting. With Egypt swirling the toilet along the Arab military motto of "We don't do maintenance". Or training. Posted by: Cicero, Semiautomatic Assault Commenter at January 29, 2013 07:39 PM (QKKT0) yeah I am sure, but with today's technology, missiles and all: innocent people will still die in Israel

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 29, 2013 03:42 PM (9Bj8R)

191 Jordan is Palin Steele on ritalin.

Posted by: zsasz at January 29, 2013 03:42 PM (MMC8r)

192 i also like cherry bomb. (tune) *** Me too.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 29, 2013 03:42 PM (piMMO)

193 **but i've never really bought into the argument that Nazism was left-wing** read a book. try Robert Conquest Dragons of Expectations

Posted by: joeindc44 is now more concerned about Dark Ages 2.0 than Great Depression 2.0 at January 29, 2013 03:43 PM (QxSug)

194 Hooker was the general who probably said, "Oh shit" at Chancellorsville


unless you mean the whole Jackson getting shot, and stuff like that

Posted by: Steiner at January 29, 2013 03:43 PM (Dll6b)

195 The longer BO is in office, the less optimistic I become.  I may need to become a LIV type for the next 3 years - and try and ignore all of the disgusting policies BO & dems are pushing out onto our nation. 
I give our elected conservatives a lot of credit for just continuing to fight.  It gets really old - mostly because of the constant propaganda from the lamestream media.  ughy

Posted by: carolina at January 29, 2013 03:43 PM (JebKA)

196 Plenty of television producers would surely love to duplicate the success of the prolific comedy creator Chuck Lorre, and someone (or someones) in Belarus may have figured out how to do it — by ripping off his hit CBS series “The Big Bang Theory” in its entirety.

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at January 29, 2013 03:43 PM (e8kgV)

197 Jordan is Palin Steele on ritalin.

He does make the same pathetic cloying attempts to ingratiate himself on non-political threads.

Pretty sad, really.

Posted by: Waterhouse at January 29, 2013 03:43 PM (YpSvP)

198 you know, based on my extensive navel gazing, I've never really bought into the crazy idea that fire can weaken steel because it just seems to me that that fire isn't hot enough to melt steel.

Posted by: joeindc44 is now more concerned about Dark Ages 2.0 than Great Depression 2.0 at January 29, 2013 03:44 PM (QxSug)

199 She has big ones. Posted by: My GF has big boobies at January 29, 2013 07:40 PM (F6KtL) Ok. And I am mayor of Awesomeville.

Posted by: CAC at January 29, 2013 03:44 PM (mZgAF)

200 I am optimistic I will one day live to see a whole fuck ton of Obama voters screaming "OMG I didn't vote for this" and be able to say "That makes me get an erection say it again please." I have already been able to do it twice, on our taxes going up.

Posted by: Mr. Pink at January 29, 2013 03:44 PM (++kZl)

201 : Niedermeyer's Dead Horse

yeah it's fun.

also wild nights.

Posted by: ette at January 29, 2013 03:44 PM (nqBYe)

202 mussolini was the che of his day.

Posted by: joeindc44 is now more concerned about Dark Ages 2.0 than Great Depression 2.0 at January 29, 2013 03:44 PM (QxSug)

203

>>i also like cherry bomb. (tune)<<

 

Mellencamp or The Runaways?

Posted by: garrett at January 29, 2013 03:45 PM (Kabs6)

204 >i also like cherry bomb. (tune)

Posted by: ette at January 29, 2013 07:42 PM (nqBYe)


are we talkin' Joan Jett?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uW_HCdU-qEY

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 29, 2013 03:45 PM (8sCoq)

205 R, Conquest also wrote  harvest of sorrow?

also a good read.

Posted by: ette at January 29, 2013 03:45 PM (nqBYe)

206 They used the wife template once, I don't see why they won't try it again.

People should not make the mistake of humanizing these people.  The Obamas are chess pieces being moved by powers behind them.  If they want Michelle to run for elective office, they'll decide that.  She won't.  She's their tool.   Just like her "husband." 

Posted by: BurtTC at January 29, 2013 03:46 PM (BeSEI)

207 Yeah steiner , I meant the Jackson blue on blue thing .. Sometimes I ain't as cute as I think I am .

Posted by: awkward davies at January 29, 2013 03:46 PM (USjX1)

208 Jones in CO, i think mellencamp?

Posted by: ette at January 29, 2013 03:46 PM (nqBYe)

209 Well, they are getting new Abrams and F16s, so it's going to take a while before the new stuff breaks. Bad news, they have the weapons. Good news, they suck as soldiers.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 29, 2013 03:47 PM (4gFWN)

210 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gym0tgA5O9c

Posted by: ette at January 29, 2013 03:47 PM (nqBYe)

211 now i'm going to check out "runaways" 

Posted by: ette at January 29, 2013 03:48 PM (nqBYe)

212 >Jones in CO, i think mellencamp?

Posted by: ette at January 29, 2013 07:46 PM (nqBYe)


yeah, not a fan. But Joan Jett kicks ass.

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 29, 2013 03:48 PM (8sCoq)

213 reading things is fun: from the museum of communism website: Hitler's economic policies extensively increased the regulation of foreign trade and agriculture, imposed widespread price controls, initiated large public works programs, and copied the Soviets' predilection for N-year Plans. As David Schoenbaum pointedly remarks in his Hitler's Social Revolution, "A generation of Marxist and neo-Marxist mythology notwithstanding, probably never in peacetime has an ostensibly capitalist economy been directed as non- and even anti-capitalistically as the Germany economy between 1933 and 1939." Summing up the situation of business under the Nazis, Schoenbaum observes: "Wages, prices, working conditions, allocation of materials: none of these were left to managerial decision, let alone to the market... Investment was controlled, occupational freedom was dead, prices were fixed, every major sector of the economy was, at worst, a victim, at best, an accomplice of the regime. As a general rule, business, particularly big business, declined or flourished in direct proportion to its willingness to collaborate."

Posted by: joeindc44 is now more concerned about Dark Ages 2.0 than Great Depression 2.0 at January 29, 2013 03:49 PM (QxSug)

214 Mumbles Menino is giving his state of the city address right now. He sounds like a tard. And he looks half dead. Which is nice.

Posted by: soothsayer at January 29, 2013 03:49 PM (vyPsz)

215 runaways are interesting. haha

Posted by: ette at January 29, 2013 03:49 PM (nqBYe)

216 161 "morons still don't know what fascist means." Or Marxist, Socialist or Communist. This community uses them simply as epithets, not as denotation. Posted by: Jordan at January 29, 2013 07:35 PM (Hz1zc) BTW what is it with left wing shit stains who all say "you dont even know what Fascism or socialism is" and then when you give them the textbook fucking definition with god damn pictures cut outs and a fucking venn diagram to Italy in the 30s and the United States during World War 2 they get all fucking google eyed and look at you like you fucking grew horns out of your head You dumb fuck we know what those terms mean, they are easily fucking researched even if you did not know. It takes two fucking seconds. Government control of the means of production or Government run "private" industry. Wow look at me I am like a fucking genius now aren't I you dumb piece of shit.

Posted by: Mr. Pink at January 29, 2013 03:49 PM (++kZl)

217 'Paper and Fire' is the best thing Mellencamp ever did.

Posted by: garrett at January 29, 2013 03:49 PM (Kabs6)

218 Jones in CO, i'll go check that out now.

Posted by: ette at January 29, 2013 03:50 PM (nqBYe)

219 "i disagree that ideology was "discarded" though. it's just that socialism was never central to it." I find it fascinating how the Nazi party represented so many things to so many people in different parts of the country. I've increasingly come to believe that while Hitler and his inner circle never discarded ideology, they made a pragmatic decision to say or do whatever needed to gain power. I'm paraphrasing, but I believe it was Goebbels who said all they had to do was win one election and they would never, never, give up power until their dead bodies were carried out of the Reichstag. One of the things that makes the Third Reich so interesting is that the Nazi revolution was unique, in that the decision was made after the Beer Hall Putsch that it would be achieved by constitutional means.

Posted by: Jordan at January 29, 2013 03:50 PM (Hz1zc)

220

"Disagreeing with everything may work in high school debate club, but not around here."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQFKtI6gn9Y


Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 29, 2013 03:50 PM (Yk2LN)

221 Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 29, 2013 07:47 PM (4gFWN)

Ever been to Israel?

It's the size of New Jersey and has 7,000,000 people. Even successful wars are crushing.

They'll win it, but at great cost.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 29, 2013 03:50 PM (GsoHv)

222 obama was bragging in one of his blowjobs- urh I mean interviews the other night about what a great job he did in Egypt. It's on tape. We gotta shove that down his fucking throat and make him choke on it--figuratively I mean.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 29, 2013 03:50 PM (9Bj8R)

223 192 Jordan,

Yeah...hey I've never seen that before....

http://youtu.be/wOtGr1JFCnE

Obama Youth

Hey tiger the Nazis were socialists in a multitude of ways.....

Hitler acknowledged that the Nazi party was ``socialist'' and that its enemies were the ``bourgeoisie'' and the ``plutocrats'' (the rich). Like Lenin & Stalin, Hitler spiked trade unions, and put his own state-run labor organizations in place. Like the Soviets, Hitler hunted down and exterminated rival leftist factions (such as the Communists). Like Soviets, Hitler waged unrelenting war against small business.

The nazis regarded capitalism as an evil scheme of the Jews and said so often. Karl Marx believed likewise. In his essay, ``On the Jewish Question,'' Marx theorized that eliminating Judaism would strike a crippling blow to capitalist exploitation. Hitler put Marx's theory to work in the death camps.

Hey what the hell does Sven know?

You are just a hater!

"yeah"

Is Fascism a socialist offshoot more than a bastardization of free market economics?

Franklin D. Roosevelt (about Il Duce the original)
I am much interested and deeply impressed by what he has accomplished and by his evidenced honest purpose of restoring Italy and seeking to prevent general European trouble.

Adolf Hitler,
We are socialists, we are enemies of todayÂ’s capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are determined to destroy this system under all conditions.


Adolf Hitler,
Why nationalize industry when you can nationalize the people?

Joseph Paul Goebbels,
As socialists, we are opponents of the Jews, because we see, in the Hebrews, the incarnation of capitalism, of the misuse of the nationÂ’s goods

National Socialist Party of Germany (NAZI),
We ask that government undertake the obligation above all of providing citizens with adequate opportunity for employment and earning a living. The activities of the individual must not be allowed to clash with the interests of the community, but must take place within the confines and be for the good of all. Therefore, we demand: … an end to the power of financial interest. We demand profit sharing in big business. We demand a broad extension of care for the aged. We demand … the greatest possible consideration of small business in the purchases of the national, state, and municipal governments. In order to make possible to every capable and industrious [citizen] the attainment of higher education and thus the achievement of a post of leadership, the government must provide an all-around enlargement of our system of public education…. We demand the education at government expense of gifted children of poor parents…. The government must undertake the improvement of public health — by protecting mother and child, by prohibiting child labor — by the greatest possible support for all groups concerned with the physical education of youth. [W]e combat the … materialistic spirit within and without us, and are convinced that a permanent recovery of our people can only proceed from within on the foundation of The Common Good Before the Individual Good.


Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 03:51 PM (LRFds)

224 ...actually, the version he did with Living Colour in 1990 at the Black Rock Coalition Benefit is the best thing he ever did.

Posted by: garrett at January 29, 2013 03:51 PM (Kabs6)

225 In the audience for Menino are political hacks and party hacks.

Posted by: soothsayer at January 29, 2013 03:51 PM (vyPsz)

226 >>He sounds like a tard. And he looks half dead. Which is nice.
Posted by: soothsayer at January 29, 2013 07:49 PM (vyPsz)


He makes Joe Biden sound like Richard Burton

Posted by: ontherocks at January 29, 2013 03:51 PM (aZ6ew)

227 I doubt jordan has a girlfriend as hot or funny as I do

Posted by: palin steele at January 29, 2013 03:51 PM (jVAw4)

228 ooooh, Jones, i remember them my sisster used to listen to their' crimson and clover.

Posted by: ette at January 29, 2013 03:51 PM (nqBYe)

229 see I think the problem is that a lot of people look at the left and think hippy ass flower children wallowing in their own filth and not union thugs and power brokering, basically totalitarians. See also all the flower children in America right now getting SWAT teams rammed down their ass for selling raw milk. So, yeah, neither the USSR or Germany were leftists. They were totalitarians. More from the MoC: "There is strong evidence that Hitler planned a much more radical economic program after victory in World War II: forcible deportation of eastern Europe's peoples, re-colonization of the depopulated territory by Germans, establishment of a Stalin-style slave labor empire for public works, imposition of slavery for inferior races, and so on. Stanley Payne explains that Hitler's goals and situation required him to "invert the Leninist-Stalinist priority of internal revolution." That is, while Lenin and Stalin planned to first impose socialism on the Soviet Union, then turn to foreign conquest, Hitler planned to make his conquests first, then impose the more radical Nazi economic and political policies. "

Posted by: joeindc44 is now more concerned about Dark Ages 2.0 than Great Depression 2.0 at January 29, 2013 03:52 PM (QxSug)

230 Hey Jordan you know what Adam Smith had to say about some of your ideas?

Adam Smith,
The statesman who should attempt to direct private people in what manner they ought to employ their capitals, would Â… assume an authority which could safely be trusted, not only to no single person, but to no council or senate whatever, and which would nowhere be so dangerous as in the hands of a man who had folly and presumption enough to fancy himself fit to exercise it.


Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 03:52 PM (LRFds)

231 Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 29, 2013 07:50 PM (Yk2LN)

A classic.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 29, 2013 03:52 PM (GsoHv)

232 Anyway the Boy Scouts are interesting in that they followed the same pattern as the Jüdischer Wanderbund Blau-Weiss, and the Hitlerjugend. All these groups assume that boys on the brink of adolescence require directed activities, role models, physical exertion, and a break from the chaos of real life. And on this much they are right.

The Boy Scouts were really meant for Anglos at first, like the Wanderbund was meant for Jews and the Jugend for assholes. Baden-Powell assumed that non-Anglos wouldn't be interested. That's why there's this talk about "God" but not exactly what "God" means - even Catholics were invited. (*gasp*!)

Whether they still revere one God or not doesn't matter; they're not the government, they can revere Vishnu for all I care.

The Boy Scouts are not fascist and again, I'm sorry for misunderstanding the original comment; they're an inoculation against fascism.

Posted by: zimriel at January 29, 2013 03:53 PM (QTHTd)

233 garret listening to it now. Paper in fire

still wild nights IS fun. i really like the woman singer.

Posted by: ette at January 29, 2013 03:53 PM (nqBYe)

234 sven, there you go again, reading... But to American Lefties, hearing (ok, reading) the Taliban and Al Qaeda say that we are doing this to establish a Caliphate rang on death ears. er eyes. No, it was because we're mean.

Posted by: joeindc44 is now more concerned about Dark Ages 2.0 than Great Depression 2.0 at January 29, 2013 03:54 PM (QxSug)

235
A Case for Optimism?
The bad news: We only have $217.00 remaining in our coffers.
The goods news: At least we don't owe $16,000,000,000,000.00

http://tinyurl.com/b69lrq7

Posted by: Zimbabwe at January 29, 2013 03:54 PM (mETGQ)

236

.....your mouth......is my perspective of optimism....

 

Posted by: Hill Country Texan at January 29, 2013 03:54 PM (ki5oJ)

237

Adolf Hitler,
Gold is not neccesary. I have no interest in gold. We will build a solid state, without an ounce of gold behind it. Anyone who sells above the set prices, let him be marched off to a concentration camp. ThatÂ’s the bastion of money.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 03:55 PM (LRFds)

238

>>> i really like the woman singer.

 

Crystal Taliefero.  She wails.

The chick who plays fiddle on that album is awesome. Lisa Germano / Germino...I forget.

Posted by: garrett at January 29, 2013 03:55 PM (Kabs6)

239 garret agreee, i like it.
thanks  i''l write it down.

Posted by: ette at January 29, 2013 03:56 PM (nqBYe)

240 Scouting was good for me, but if I had a son, I'd probably not let him get involved in Scouting unless I was an Assistant Scoutmaster in his troop. Scouting is social, teaches valuable skills, encourages self-development and rewards effort, but the nationalistic and religious overtones are troubling, as are recent revelations about sexual abuse.

Posted by: Jordan at January 29, 2013 03:56 PM (Hz1zc)

241 PJ Orourke joke about the old south: Sheriff going around town, walks up to Old Man Smithers and asks about his sons. "blah blah blah, all 8 of them doing what they do." Sheriff: Well, they're all good democrats, right, and they'll vote in the upcoming election? Smithers: well, yup, all except Thomas, that boy done took to reading.

Posted by: joeindc44 is now more concerned about Dark Ages 2.0 than Great Depression 2.0 at January 29, 2013 03:56 PM (QxSug)

242 The Nazis were just an oompah band that got out of control.

Posted by: zsasz at January 29, 2013 03:56 PM (MMC8r)

243

From the linked article....

 

"With ObamaÂ’s big-government policies at odds with the prevailing ethos of the American people and the Democrat offering little in the way of a growth agenda, conservatives once again have the opportunity to make the case for real reform."

 

I no longer believe Americans are against big-government. Conservatives still say Americans are for smaller government but I think demographics and shoddy education have changed that for the worse.

 

But I also believe Jerry Springer and Maury are more of a reflection of 'real America' than Dr. Phil and Oprah. I think the country has fallen that far.

Posted by: Stateless Infidels at January 29, 2013 03:57 PM (AC0lD)

244 253 Nobody asked.

Posted by: zsasz at January 29, 2013 03:57 PM (MMC8r)

245 Ever been to Israel? Not making light of it, just pointing out a verifiable fact. No doubt in my mind the Israelis will kick their ass.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 29, 2013 03:58 PM (4gFWN)

246 Re: 251 yeah, I got nothing. Fire won't melt steel. Let sven do his thing with words, arranging them into "sentences" to make "points" about "facts" in "history." I just reread the stuff I read earlier and this was chilling "Stanley Payne explains that Hitler's goals and situation required him to "invert the Leninist-Stalinist priority of internal revolution." That is, while Lenin and Stalin planned to first impose socialism on the Soviet Union, then turn to foreign conquest, Hitler planned to make his conquests first, then impose the more radical Nazi economic and political policies. "

Posted by: joeindc44 is now more concerned about Dark Ages 2.0 than Great Depression 2.0 at January 29, 2013 03:59 PM (QxSug)

247 as are recent revelations about sexual abuse.

Posted by: Jordan at January 29, 2013 07:56 PM (Hz1zc)

Wow.

You're checking everything off. At least you are methodical.

And boring.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 29, 2013 03:59 PM (GsoHv)

248 "You're checking everything off. At least you are methodical. " I left out Scouting's institutionalized homophobia, but I figured it wouldn't fly with this crowd.

Posted by: Jordan at January 29, 2013 04:00 PM (Hz1zc)

249 I wonder, cause my scout masters were all cool. An Alton Brown type head guy filled with tales of America's manifest destiny days on the range and a few ex-green berets. As a future parent, I am sure that the future wife's gaydar detector will alert us to any pedos, eh?

Posted by: joeindc44 is now more concerned about Dark Ages 2.0 than Great Depression 2.0 at January 29, 2013 04:00 PM (QxSug)

250 My dog has no nose!
He smells like an internet Eagle Scout troop-master!!!

Posted by: adolf hilter at January 29, 2013 04:00 PM (ORGYc)

251 Scouting is social, teaches valuable skills, encourages self-development and rewards effort, but the nationalistic and religious overtones are troubling, as are recent revelations about sexual abuse.

Posted by: Jordan at January 29, 2013 07:56 PM (Hz1zc)


Exactly how i feel about teachers these days. with exception of  encouraging  and rewarding responsibility  , and really religious overtones with mother gaia.

funny how creeps can find children  no matter where they are

Posted by: ette at January 29, 2013 04:01 PM (nqBYe)

252

>>>I left out Scouting's institutionalized homophobia, but I figured it wouldn't fly with this crowd.<<<

 

No way they are homophobic with gay outfits like that.

Posted by: garrett at January 29, 2013 04:01 PM (Kabs6)

253 One of the things that makes the Third Reich so interesting

Posted by: Jerden at January 29, 2013 04:01 PM (EZl54)

254 Did Jordan say he WAS an eagle scout, or DID an eagle scout?

Posted by: zsasz at January 29, 2013 04:02 PM (MMC8r)

255 i should have kept it simple as charliebrown did.

damnit

Posted by: ette at January 29, 2013 04:02 PM (nqBYe)

256 Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 29, 2013 07:58 PM (4gFWN)

It came out snotty, but I really was just asking*. I don't think you are making light of it. I have a bunch of cousins in the army who will bear the brunt of any war, so while my respect for the Israeli military is significant, I also see the other side.

*No offense intended -- you're one of the good guys around here.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 29, 2013 04:02 PM (GsoHv)

257 Posted by: Jordan at January 29, 2013 08:00 PM (Hz1zc) I love when you pass off bullshit opinions as some kind of authoritative fact. Tell us more Dr Science!

Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 29, 2013 04:02 PM (4gFWN)

258 The Scouts' tolerance of kiddy diddling is well documented:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2012/10/01 /boy-scouts-to-report-pedophiles-missed-previously/1605653/

That's the part where Jordan has a point.

Posted by: zimriel at January 29, 2013 04:02 PM (QTHTd)

259 246 JoeinDC,

Yeah it is the damnedest thing...it is almost like Hitler, the Nazis as whole, FDR, Hoover, Keynes everyone misunderstood that the Nazis were pro business Adam Smith loving hyper-nationalist right wingers.....?

Anyway in this nation Fascism has ALWAYS had a SMILEY FACE unless of course you were lucky enough to be the guy who got beaten up and sent to prison for not charging enough to iron shirts comrade well omelette and eggs.


Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 04:03 PM (LRFds)

260

Ever been to Israel?

 

No.  I'd go in a heartbeat if they'd let me shoot jihadis and/or palis, though.

Posted by: garrett at January 29, 2013 04:03 PM (Kabs6)

261 anti-homophobia is a great moral balm for the left. There's hardly any of them around but a vocal minority. You can be all self-righteous about your support of them because you watch Will and Grace. And since anti-sodomy and anti-gay bigotry are a basic part of western society (I know, but we aren't in Rome, Greece, or Afghanistan) since forever, you can use it to blast down the pillars of the society you hate so much. "Oh, yeah, I really liked George Washington, except he was a rampant homophobe. You can say what you will about Stalin, but at least he was open minded to gays."

Posted by: joeindc44 is now more concerned about Dark Ages 2.0 than Great Depression 2.0 at January 29, 2013 04:04 PM (QxSug)

262 270 JDP,

Well because Benito Mussolini was a left winger that was lamented as lost to Lenin?

Was FDR "really a Republican?"

FDR was don't look now a fascist.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 04:04 PM (LRFds)

263

homophobia - an irrational fear of sameness.


Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 29, 2013 04:05 PM (Yk2LN)

264 you know what i have found,.
bad people that like kids go to places that have kids around

like elmo. or the ice cream man.

therefore hollywood, and all ice cream drivers must certainly be peds ,

Posted by: ette at January 29, 2013 04:05 PM (nqBYe)

265 I feel I should point out.... Obviously most gay man are not pedophiles, however you should use the same caution as letting girls hang out with an adult straight men. There is nothing wrong about protecting your children around people you do not know.

Posted by: gigg at January 29, 2013 04:05 PM (dDD3H)

266 Posted by: garrett at January 29, 2013 08:03 PM (Kabs6)

Well, the food's great and the women are hot.

And while I am Jewish, it is amazing to see not just the Jewish religious sights, but the many Christian ones. Walking on the same cobblestones that Jesus walked 2000 years ago is amazing no matter what you may believe.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 29, 2013 04:06 PM (GsoHv)

267 the things that makes the Third Reich so interesting

Posted by: Jurdon at January 29, 2013 04:06 PM (EZl54)

268 fcol.  they must have different text books!

Posted by: ette at January 29, 2013 04:06 PM (nqBYe)

269 That's the part where Jordan has a point. I know, he's very intellectually consistent. He was all, like, upset and shit over Menendez' banging underage Dominican prostitutes. Liberals, always for the little guy girls.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 29, 2013 04:07 PM (4gFWN)

270

Posted by: gigg at January 29, 2013 08:05 PM (dDD3H)

 

Just come from Jawa? 

If not, go read Rusty's piece re:BSA.

Posted by: garrett at January 29, 2013 04:07 PM (Kabs6)

271 things that makes the Third Reich so interesting

Posted by: Jordin at January 29, 2013 04:07 PM (EZl54)

272 "I wonder, cause my scout masters were all cool." I still idolize my Scoutmaster, Glenn McCracken, may he rest in peace, but one of my ASMs is now the mayor of Birmingham, AL and is doing his best to keep that city the festering, spouting sewer of a third-world disaster area it has become.

Posted by: Jordan at January 29, 2013 04:07 PM (Hz1zc)

273 You can say what you will about Stalin, but at least he was open minded to gays. You know nothing of my work.

Posted by: Ioseb Besarionis dze Dzhugashvili at January 29, 2013 04:08 PM (QupBk)

274 makes the Third Reich so interesting

Posted by: Jorden at January 29, 2013 04:08 PM (EZl54)

275 **it's pretty much historical consensus that the Nazis were on the extreme right, and not because everything bad has to be right-wing or anything like that. ** because you are morons. Not JDP, maybe, I don't know. But I mean they were totalitarians, they were a new breed of socialists. The problem with socialism at the turn of the last century was that the petit borgouis didn't want to do it, so facsism was the latest variant to pop up in an attempt to be cool. patriotism is not right wing or left wing. you know? USSR and US and Iraq and Sweden all have parades and shit. Of course, there are certain lefties in the west who despise dominant western militaries, and they go peacenik. Just as there are conservative religious groups that are peacenik. So again, if your mind is broken and you think that republicans=patriot=right wing therefore nazi=patriot=right wing, what can I say?

Posted by: joeindc44 is now more concerned about Dark Ages 2.0 than Great Depression 2.0 at January 29, 2013 04:08 PM (QxSug)

276

@188: "Lots of OOOHS! and AHHHHS! ahead for her."

 

That's highly personal and private between Secretary Clinton and me, thank you very much.

Posted by: Huma Abedin at January 29, 2013 04:08 PM (FsqHK)

277 Posted by: JDP at January 29, 2013 08:02 PM (60GaT)

It is by no means historical consensus that the Nazis were extreme right.

The left's manipulation of the people was no less sophisticated than the right's, and in most ways it worked better.

The fact that Hitler used nationalism as a tool does not diminish his socialist cred.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 29, 2013 04:08 PM (GsoHv)

278   the Third Reich so interesting

Posted by: Jurrdin at January 29, 2013 04:09 PM (EZl54)

279 Just come from Jawa? I have been out for a few hours. Sorry to beat a dead horse.

Posted by: gigg at January 29, 2013 04:09 PM (dDD3H)

280

Well, the food's great and the women are hot.

 

The latter is one of the reasons I haven't gone. 

 I have zero defense against beautiful Israeli women.  I'd be in Payot (sp?) before I knew what happened.

Posted by: garrett at January 29, 2013 04:10 PM (Kabs6)

281 Damn, the Habs and Jets are feisty with each other tonight. Damn testy squads.

Posted by: palin steele at January 29, 2013 04:10 PM (jVAw4)

282 "I have zero defense against beautiful Israeli women." Especially when they're combat trained and armed with rifles.

Posted by: Jordan at January 29, 2013 04:10 PM (Hz1zc)

283 things that makes the Third Reich so

Posted by: Jurdon at January 29, 2013 04:11 PM (EZl54)

284


I still idolize my Scoutmaster, Phil McCracken...

 

for accuracy.

 

 

Posted by: garrett at January 29, 2013 04:11 PM (Kabs6)

285 things that makes the Third Reich so interesting

Posted by: Jordin at January 29, 2013 04:12 PM (EZl54)

286 /fuck doll cuddling sock

Posted by: logprof at January 29, 2013 04:12 PM (jVAw4)

287 Come on. Why would gay men want to be a part of an organization that takes young boys on overnight trips, far from civilization?

Posted by: zsasz at January 29, 2013 04:12 PM (MMC8r)

288 Posted by: garrett at January 29, 2013 08:10 PM (Kabs6)

I worked briefly in an industry with tons of Hasidim. And some of their wives were smoking hot.

But I was referring to the beauties on the beach and on the street and in the clubs and restaurants.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 29, 2013 04:12 PM (GsoHv)

289 283 JDP,

So "right wing" is now merely an identifier for "patriotic"?

Oh no wait...that can't be it Baracka Doc was extolling his special brand of "economic patriotism" which hey you know who else invoked that a bunch?

Okay okay "militaristic"?

So those parades in Red Square and Beijing were "right wing affairs"?

Ah ok....

No Adolf Hitler attacked the ideas of Lockeian individual liberty such as it had existed in Germany, he attacked the free market, and self-interest.

He sought to "transform Germany into its lost promise from its 'misguided modern founding' that 'betrayed its best ideals' and needed "renewal."

Yeah yeah definitely sounds like someone trying to maintain the status quo, or better still The Weimar Republic the German Constitution of the time....?

You noticing something?

Hitler does not sound a fucking thing like me.

He does sound a lot like the guy who likes aping Il Douche and wearing momjeans.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 04:12 PM (LRFds)

290 JETS GOAL! Canadiens 2 Jets 1

Posted by: logprof at January 29, 2013 04:13 PM (jVAw4)

291 "Come on. Why would gay men want to be a part of an organization that takes young boys on overnight trips, far from civilization?" Because compared to the priesthood, there's a very low barrier to entry?

Posted by: Jordan at January 29, 2013 04:13 PM (Hz1zc)

292 you see, if you're an American and you have, ah, how do you say...intellectual curiosity? Ah yes, as an American with intellectual curiosity, and as someone who identifies with small government and freedoms, blah blah blah, when someone says something like "it's pretty much historical consensus that the Nazis were on the extreme right, and not because everything bad has to be right-wing or anything like that," you want to figure out what's up with that. you may not, you may be cool with that. But me, I went done got to reading about why my beliefs would be conflated with a totalitarian regime when I dislike those things. So, it turns out that people are stupid. That they have no idea what's what. But I'm not down with that.

Posted by: joeindc44 is now more concerned about Dark Ages 2.0 than Great Depression 2.0 at January 29, 2013 04:14 PM (QxSug)

293 302- I see no reason to Bring up Harry Reid or his "fact-finding" missions.

Posted by: gigg at January 29, 2013 04:14 PM (dDD3H)

294 it's that Nazism takes that concept to a perverted, genocidal extreme, which is why they're placed on the right. Posted by: JDP at January 29, 2013 08:13 PM (60GaT) --Oh yah, because only conservatives have committed genocide against minorities. Gotcha.

Posted by: logprof at January 29, 2013 04:15 PM (jVAw4)

295 292 CBD,

Stalin used Russian nationalism when it suited him, I always do enjoy asking apologists who wish to throw Hitler on my side of the aisle the following:

"So Stalin who was a communist woke up one day pole vaulted into being on the right-wing then did a triple lindy post war when it was economic religion over nationality again landed back on the left?"

Favorite reply is when I have it casually explained to me that, "well no Stalin was a right winger too."

Ah yes....two legs good 4 legs baaa baad.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 04:16 PM (LRFds)

296 crazy .

Posted by: ette at January 29, 2013 04:16 PM (nqBYe)

297 just conflating left wing with hippy dippy open minded stuff. I mean, I get it, the left in America went all peacenik and multiculti. Not because they wanted us to surrender to the soviets or to destroy the cultural relics that wanted us not to surrender to the soviets. So, now the left is hippy dippy. Therefore, militaristic societies are right wing. Just ask Bosnia or Libya about that.

Posted by: joeindc44 is now more concerned about Dark Ages 2.0 than Great Depression 2.0 at January 29, 2013 04:17 PM (QxSug)

Posted by: BECK at January 29, 2013 04:18 PM (Kabs6)

299 A lot of modern writers use the term 'authoritarian' instead of 'Fascist' when describing Hitler's government. 'Totalitarian' has also gone out of vogue. I don't use 'Fascist' much because the term has become so polluted by misuse, i.e. Bush's fascist imperialism or Obama and his fascist cronies.

Posted by: Jordan at January 29, 2013 04:19 PM (Hz1zc)

300 310 LogProf,

Yup there it is....

Eastasia has always been at war with EUrasia.....

heh....

Yeah and that is why I never taught.

I'd blow my brains out.

That is pure weapons grade idiocy on the left's part but by God it is *fact*.

If bad was done it *has* to be right wing!

FDR snuck over to the GOP when he did Tuskegee and inflicted EUgenics...Margaret Sanger is an honorary republican and her organization then purified itself and joined the donks by shedding that right wing evil and just being good abortionists....

You want to know how I know I am not crazy?

I can't make fucking sense out of a democrats' internal monologue.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 04:19 PM (LRFds)

301 Posted by: Jordan at January 29, 2013 08:13 PM (Hz1zc) You DO realize you're a bigot, right?

Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 29, 2013 04:19 PM (4gFWN)

302 I think, BTW, that scouting is great. Young men need discipline, adventure, code of ethics, and authority figures. The Boy Scouts of America put their foot down in American values that some people have despised, long before they learned to love homomania.

Posted by: joeindc44 is now more concerned about Dark Ages 2.0 than Great Depression 2.0 at January 29, 2013 04:20 PM (QxSug)

303 "You DO realize you're a bigot, right?" I'm an atheist, and I admit I have to police my own thoughts for bigotry, especially regarding Islam.

Posted by: Jordan at January 29, 2013 04:21 PM (Hz1zc)

304 what i see is left wingers, absolutely judge and label Everyone by their respective religions ,  judge everyone by their genetics, judge everyone by their physical assets and decide by all those things  those who are worthy  and or'special' in a bad way

they do not accept the equalness  , and   help All  people find  their optimum.

Posted by: ette at January 29, 2013 04:21 PM (nqBYe)

305 You DO realize you're a bigot, right? He can't be. He voted for Obama.

Posted by: zsasz at January 29, 2013 04:21 PM (MMC8r)

306 Jordan, it is curious how that's gone out of fashion. I still have my high school American history text, I wonder what they said about this issue back then.

Posted by: joeindc44 is now more concerned about Dark Ages 2.0 than Great Depression 2.0 at January 29, 2013 04:21 PM (QxSug)

307 You DO realize you're a bigot, right? ---------------------- He earned the "Some of my best friends are black" merit badge.

Posted by: gigg at January 29, 2013 04:23 PM (dDD3H)

308 Posted by: Jordan at January 29, 2013 08:21 PM (Hz1zc) Yeah, it's a bit more than Islam, kid. But go ahead, keep telling yourself you're the "tolerant" type who takes people as individuals. I'm sure that's what you have to do to be able to sleep at night.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 29, 2013 04:23 PM (4gFWN)

309 322 - Well put.

Posted by: gigg at January 29, 2013 04:23 PM (dDD3H)

310 311 JDP,

There is more to political/economic interaction than "left/right"

They try to tie the modern GOP to nazis with that Calumny while somehow being pristine from communism's taint despite venona.

JDP you are aware it is possible to be highly pissed off at someone because they are competing for the same sheep to follow them yes?

If nazism is not Capitalist(it was not) and it was not free market(it was not) and it wnated wage and price controls(it did) and it promised a job for everyone(it did) how precisely is that a right wing phenomena if "right wing" is based on anything more than 'race' or 'patriotism'?

I am sincerely asking you to explain in anything other than "well gee the nazis went too far and were not commies so RIGHT WING!"


Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 04:24 PM (LRFds)

311

Jordan would be Adam Baldwin's character in the Patriot.  Except he would not hesitate to light the church on fire.

Posted by: buzzion at January 29, 2013 04:24 PM (GULKT)

312 "324 Jordan, it is curious how that's gone out of fashion. I still have my high school American history text, I wonder what they said about this issue back then." I'm not bothering to check, but I'm pretty sure 'totalitarian' was coined by Hannah Arendt in the 60s. Like Shirer did later, Arendt was trying to understand the origins and appeal of Nazism and that's the word she chose to describe it.

Posted by: Jordan at January 29, 2013 04:25 PM (Hz1zc)

313 MMmmm Adam Baldwin......

Posted by: gigg at January 29, 2013 04:25 PM (dDD3H)

314 322 Hell, the Ultimate Left Winger, Karl Marx, saw everybody as a captive robot of their class. Real individualism is the enemy of the leftist mindset.

Posted by: zsasz at January 29, 2013 04:26 PM (MMC8r)

315 328 JDP,

I pointed out the economic philosophy shares more with socialism than capitalism, I showed that militarism is possible across the spectrum of economies, I point out that nationalism based on ethnicity transcended easy labeling, I beseech you please do explain what "right wing" is....

Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 04:26 PM (LRFds)

316 gigg,  it's exhausting   fighting their insanity.

so you got away today from politics?
i hope for  fun !  ?

Ive been trying to limit myself the last few days for peace of mind.
but i find i' go right from  calm to biting angst in a couple of minutes. still.

maybe a month  or so would work out better

Posted by: ette at January 29, 2013 04:27 PM (nqBYe)

317 "I beseech you please do explain what "right wing" is...." It's a vague political descriptor whose meaning depends on context. You could call Hitler right-wing just as you could Pat Robertson, but they don't mean even close to the same thing.

Posted by: Jordan at January 29, 2013 04:28 PM (Hz1zc)

318 can i say it's rather amusing to find some commonality in this.

we all hate Hitler so much no one wants to be a part of it.

to bad we can't  feel the same about stalin.


Posted by: ette at January 29, 2013 04:30 PM (nqBYe)

319 335- I get super super riled up too. It's hard not too! I get so frustrated. My time away was gym and making groceries.

Posted by: gigg at January 29, 2013 04:31 PM (dDD3H)

320 gigg, adam baldwin?

fight ya for him?

Posted by: ette at January 29, 2013 04:31 PM (nqBYe)

321 335- And I am debating weather to get on WOW, STO or watch Sparticus.

Posted by: gigg at January 29, 2013 04:32 PM (dDD3H)

322 You could call Hitler right-wing just as you could Pat Robertson, but they don't mean even close to the same thing. Yes, but it never seems to stop your type - or even you specificall, as your demonstrated multiple times todays No, you compare them directly all the time. "Right-wing" to liberals merely means, "stuff I don't like"

Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 29, 2013 04:32 PM (4gFWN)

323 we all hate Hitler so much no one wants to be a part of it. to bad we can't feel the same about stalin. The Left needs the Race Card, therefore Hitler = Evil, even though Stalin killed many times more people...he just didn't pick them by ethnicity.

Posted by: zsasz at January 29, 2013 04:33 PM (MMC8r)

324 339 I will straight up claw your fucking eyes out.

Posted by: gigg at January 29, 2013 04:33 PM (dDD3H)

325 gigg, gym might have been a good thing, but the grocers? i hate fighting through the aisle of people that park in the center, and i always seem to find the cashier  that is in training!

Posted by: ette at January 29, 2013 04:34 PM (nqBYe)

326 339 I will straight up claw your fucking eyes out.

Posted by: gigg at January 29, 2013 08:33 PM (dDD3H)


well, ouch.


but i have brownies!

which is better?

Posted by: ette at January 29, 2013 04:34 PM (nqBYe)

327 "fight ya for him?" Hell, I'd buy a ticket.

Posted by: Jordan at January 29, 2013 04:35 PM (Hz1zc)

328

John F. McManus,
Left has come to represent increasing government control. The extreme leftist typically seeks total government. Working their way toward total government power are the Communists, socialists, fascists, and modern liberals who advocate government solutions for every real or imagined problem.

*That* is fucking left versus right or as a 1926 Civics text described it.

Liberal vs Conservative

The Conservative values individual effort protected by strict rule of law and accepts that the individual is responsible for his lot in life.

The liberal feels that the community has a duty to ensure that the weak are not hurt by the inability of some to maximize their ability to make their own way and seeks to use government to protect the weak, feels law is best when loosely applied and used to correct individual cases of harm.


That's from memory and wobbly but stuck with me from a book I read in canada.


What struck me is that it was a lot easier to define "right" than left.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 04:36 PM (LRFds)

329 but i have brownies!which is better? Brownies...??? I love the little uniforms...! Oh, darn.

Posted by: Roman Polanski at January 29, 2013 04:36 PM (MMC8r)

330 345 - I always end up stuck behind some self absorbed scrunt talking on a cell phone in the middle of the isle while I am trying to reach around her rude ass to grab a box of pasta.

Posted by: gigg at January 29, 2013 04:36 PM (dDD3H)

331 And the two parallel discussions are awesome to read together.

Posted by: gigg at January 29, 2013 04:37 PM (dDD3H)

332 haha, yes ,  and she will be wearing earphones chatting with her friend so never hears, excuse me ,  um, excuse me.
and looks angry if you move the cart two inches to move through.
i just use the upraised eyebrow in query.

i call it my, do you really wanna screw up this day look.

works so far.

Posted by: ette at January 29, 2013 04:40 PM (nqBYe)

333 there must be a new thread.

lets look.

Posted by: ette at January 29, 2013 04:41 PM (nqBYe)

334 "fight ya for him?"

Hell, I'd buy a ticket.

Posted by: Jordan at January 29, 2013 08:35 PM (Hz1zc)


sometimes you're just a regular guy.



Posted by: ette at January 29, 2013 04:42 PM (nqBYe)

335 342 JDP,

Ah okay got it....

so murdering billions because they actually want gain is somehow less reprehensible than murdering millions because they are Jews or Indians or.....

hey wait a sec...you know Stalin...he sorta had a thing for Jews himself......

In a December 1, 1952 Politburo session, Stalin announced: "Every Jewish nationalist is the agent of the American intelligence service. Jewish nationalists think that their nation was saved by the USA. . . They think they are indebted to the Americans. Among doctors, there are many Jewish nationalists."

Now it is true most records say that Stalin only murdered about 29,000 Jews in the first great purge so I guess he was a left wing hero after all *maybe*?

"Night of the Murdered Poets" was august 12th 1952 in Lubyanka Prison Stalin had Beria's boys retire 25 Yiddish individuals who were members of the Jewish Anti-Fascist League.

Stalin had some serious thoughts on forced integration and obliteration of the Yiddish identity.

so is "ethnic cleansing" a left or right wing virtue?

What about extra-judicial murder?

Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 04:45 PM (LRFds)

336 "What about extra-judicial murder?" Well, judicial murder, in this country at least, is strongly associated with the right.

Posted by: Jordan at January 29, 2013 04:48 PM (Hz1zc)

337 341 Sean Bannion,

Pretty much, and I am pretty much precise when I call Obama a Marxist in the closet at best or a not very closeted at all Fascist.

That Obama is "left" to me denotes that he like most Keynesians LOVES him some Government....

having trouble don't worry about it I will make a Comprehensive Bi-partisan(defined as I tell your side what your view is) Group to analyze optimal Poo needs we have deduced that the key is to subsidize unicorn skittles as laxative...

and yes I did make the decision stupid because that is the fucking flaw by concentrating "power' in "fewer hands" to "do more good" you magnify the capability for a catastrophic fuck up but by God JUSTICE demands YOU let ME fuck this up!

Me, I'd trust people to try to get their own poo out.

I'm an evil right winger who doesn't really give fifteen fucks about the defecatory  rituals of 300,000,000 people all at once....

I figure if I eat enough roughage and keep rodents out of my asshole nature will fucking take care of itself.

Anyway sorry to be crude.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 04:56 PM (LRFds)

338 356 Jordan,

Yes sir....

Hey Jordan.....

the "death penalty" is a valid punishment for catastrophic misdeeds....why by Golly I count on men to act with honor and be ruthlessly punished for misdeeds after rule of law.

Giggles uses "joystick summary judgement"

Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 04:58 PM (LRFds)

339
PATIENT: ...

DOCTOR: Anal, too.


I admit it; I laffed.

Posted by: OregonMuse at January 29, 2013 04:59 PM (9GaPd)

340 "That Obama is "left" to me denotes that he like most Keynesians LOVES him some Government...." Off topic, but I've recently concluded the major problem with Keynes is that his prescription is politically impossible to implement. Everyone loves increasing spending and lowering taxes in a recession, but now that the recession is over and Keynes's prescription calls for spending cuts and increasing taxes we lack the political willpower to follow through. We did the easy part, but we're unwilling to do the harder, but essential, second part.

Posted by: Jordan at January 29, 2013 05:00 PM (Hz1zc)

341 I'm an atheist, and I admit I have to police my own thoughts for bigotry, especially regarding Islam. Posted by: Jordan at January 29, 2013 08:21 PM (Hz1zc) No such thing as an athiest. Self-worship, yes.

Posted by: justbecause at January 29, 2013 05:03 PM (scLNg)

342 "the "death penalty" is a valid punishment for catastrophic misdeeds...." Death is a proper punishment for catastrophic misdeeds. The death penalty, however, is a government power that is unevenly applied, serves little purpose in free societies, and is apt to be abused by tyrants. I'm not particularly dogmatic about the issue, but I'm pleased some states are discarding it and those that retain are using it less frequently.

Posted by: Jordan at January 29, 2013 05:04 PM (Hz1zc)

343 "No such thing as an athiest. Self-worship, yes." If you can't spell it, don't knock it.

Posted by: Jordan at January 29, 2013 05:05 PM (Hz1zc)

344 And yet you are quite happy with the continuous murder of innocents you pathetic disgusting shit.  You are the epitome of all that is wrong in the world.

Posted by: buzzion at January 29, 2013 05:06 PM (GULKT)

345 326 Jordan,

and THERE is that charming circular logic that the 1926 book showed endemic to the left...

YES WE CANNOT TRUST GOVT TO BE FAIR BUT I CAN TRUST IT WITH EVER INCREASING POWER OVER MY LIFE!

Yeah..."libertarian" scooter by the way Barry using hellfires is no court at all.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 05:07 PM (LRFds)

346 "YES WE CANNOT TRUST GOVT TO BE FAIR BUT I CAN TRUST IT WITH EVER INCREASING POWER OVER MY LIFE!" Speak for yourself, Sven. This doesn't reflect my feelings in the least.

Posted by: Jordan at January 29, 2013 05:07 PM (Hz1zc)

347 366 "YES WE CANNOT TRUST GOVT TO BE FAIR BUT I CAN TRUST IT WITH EVER INCREASING POWER OVER MY LIFE!"

Speak for yourself, Sven. This doesn't reflect my feelings in the least.

Posted by: Jordan at January 29, 2013 09:07 PM (Hz1zc)

 

You vote for those who do you pathetic murderous slime.

Posted by: buzzion at January 29, 2013 05:08 PM (GULKT)

348 "You vote for those who do you pathetic murderous slime." Trolling batteries recharged. This conversation was entirely too civil until you showed up.

Posted by: Jordan at January 29, 2013 05:12 PM (Hz1zc)

349 360 Jordan,

Keynesianism is a religion.

Nothing more nothing less it is the only 'science' that demands that when results do not meet hypothesis the ONLY answer is to increase the active component of the formula.

I did a post on the difference between Keynes and Hayek on swimming pools one night here...wish I had kept it.


Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 05:13 PM (LRFds)

350 The difference between Keynes and Hayek is that nobody, and I mean nobody, can understand Keynes's book.

Posted by: Jordan at January 29, 2013 05:14 PM (Hz1zc)

351 the goal is to fill the pool.....

a command economist fills
the pool with concrete....mission done the pool is now a sidewalk but
who cares *I* like the answer comrade....

Kids look at pool in swimwear disguised as sidewalk and go star at a tree.

Hayek
looks at pool, makes an estimate of cost of filling pool versus flow
rate of hose solution, risks own time and money....buys a good water
hose buys water fills pool with water, sets price point for entry into
pool attempts to exert profit motive to the interaction between
capitalization investment to desired rate of return....sends kids to
advertise gives wage to kids, hires kid to sell tickets, hores
lifeguard....

Pool is in operation in 3 days.....profit begins year two.

Keynes.....heh....Keynes.....

Keynes
waits until the pool business above is in trouble, breaks out money
machine first attempts to create an entire water evaporation recovery
farm in area......the new physical plant succeeds but rate of water
recovery takes 30 times too long for optimal utility.....

Keynes
then breaks out money machine and pays kids from across the county to
come in and attempt to dig canal from ocean 300 miles inland to pool
area as a "industrial development zone. Canal works but water is salt
water clogs filtration system Keynes runs over budget hiring pump repair
guy. Loses six months but gains a wonderful multiplier for the unbuilt machine shop the next door neighbor dreams of one day building.

Keynes then hires fire department at triple pay to fill the pool at triple the cost Hayek filled pool in 5 minutes.

The Kids are now back in school.....

I
guess the point is that Keynes' folly is he has a better grasp of the
micro economic utility of a populations' needs than the analytical
ability of the indiidual actors....

this also leads to another "magnifier".....

the impact of bad judgement to impact multiplier....

Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 05:15 PM (LRFds)

352 and sorry but that post was at about 2:47 in the morning on 7 Spetember when I was twitting with a drunk Reince Priebus IIRC

Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 05:18 PM (LRFds)

353 I know leftists love to flatter themselves, and think they are the good guys, but all they have done is exchange one hatred for another. Racists justify their hate the same way leftist do. I'm sure the nazis thought what they were doing to the jews and the rest of the world was justified too. The one glaring lesson to be learned from the Nazis is that an all encompassing giant government aint the fucking answer. Slavery comes in many forms. I do not wish to be a slave to any system even if that system means well. That is the basis of my dissent. And it is on that hill I will live or die.

Posted by: wattyler1381 at January 29, 2013 05:25 PM (F2Vrz)

354 My thoughts on optimism: http://www.libertydude.com/?p=390

An excerpt: As a “gun nut” you can bet I’ll be watching this closely, but at the moment, it appears to me that additional gun control is a non-starter, and looking more deeply into it, I sense a burgeoning curiosity among those in “the middle” who are hearing the arguments of the pro-gun resistance and recognizing that it’s not full of lunacy, it’s full of reason, passion, and most of all a desire to do something that will actually make a difference.

Posted by: The Liberty Dude at January 29, 2013 05:49 PM (iAWQF)

355 374 JDP,

ehhhh

okay so Marxism in deciding that economics trumps all measured in the "ethics of class struggle" is the ultimate expression of left....

I see....

I don't agree but I see.

Whatever works for you I guess.

I know I am a deeply flawed human being who needs removed from any wealth and power.

Obama told me, imagine a world of need without white man's greed.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 05:49 PM (LRFds)

356 Who are the trannies?

http://tinyurl.com/ya8opur

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 29, 2013 05:58 PM (UOM48)

357 Who are the trannies?

http://tinyurl.com/ya8opur

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 29, 2013 05:58 PM (UOM48)

358 Keynesian?  When the MSM ends its war on reporting, maybe they'll ask what is obamanomics or what is the obama doctrine.  There is no justification for the obama economic policy.  That's the thing about the dark lord of vermin and empty platitudes, he's basically an ad hoc check the box corrupt cipher who, like the jason pollack character in Casino, thinks he's in the room because he's so smart.

Posted by: joeindc44 at January 29, 2013 07:44 PM (zH1JT)

359 DOCTOR: Dear God, that hurts. Please, you're killing me! PATIENT: Yeah, that's the point! DOCTOR: But you have bigger things to worry about! PATIENT: I've got time. Besides, what are they going to do with me? give me the needle? BWAHAHAHAHAHA!

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie ® at January 30, 2013 05:02 AM (1hM1d)

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