December 21, 2013

A Tale of Two Trailers [OregonMuse]
— Open Blogger

I generally like Joel and Ethan Coen's movies, although not all of them, I know they're kind of hit and miss. But I'm always interested when a new one comes out. I decided that wanted to see True Grit based pretty much entirely on the strength of this trailer:



First of all, I think this is a great trailer. It establishes the broad, general outline of the movie without giving too much away. And it introduces Mattie Ross as a compelling character. Who would not want to see a western about a 14-year old girl who is determined to bring her father's killer to justice? And how can she accomplish this task she has set for herself, given her age and gender?

So right there, you have an interesting story and a compelling character.

I was looking forward to seeing True Grit, and I was happy when it lived up to my expectations. And what's more, I think it's the best film the Coens have ever made.

Now watch this trailer of the latest Coen Bros. movie, Inside Llewyn Davis:



So, having seen the trailer, what do we know about the movie? Well, the main character is a shabby-looking hippie folksinger, we know that much. And there's a woman, probably his ex, who hates him. But what is this movie about? The trailer doesn't really say. I guess it's about the shabby-looking hippie folksinger's life, which appears to consist mainly of him wandering around from place to place. The randomness of the scenes that were selected to be included in the trailer do not suggest any kind of a cohesive whole, unlike the way that the True Grit trailer did.

And more importantly, do I care about the shabby-looking hippie folksinger? In a word, no. Nothing in the trailer gives me any reason to think that Llewyn Davis is a character I should be interested in. Unlike Mattie Ross.

Why should I see this movie? There's no story and no character. I guess it might actually turn out to be a good film, but you'd never know it from the trailer.

So, unless it starts getting really great reviews, I think I'm going to give it a pass, and wait for the Coens' next one.

I just thought of something: what might redeem this movie is if the story would invite us into the perspective of the ex, and at the end we will think, yes, this guy really is an arsehole.

Addendum: The original source for True Grit, Charles Portis' novel of the same name, is quite good, and the Coens' adaptation is reasonably faithful. The book has more religious parts, though. For example, remember the hanging scene near the beginning of the film, where the Indian was prevented from speaking his last words to the crowd? In the book, he was allowed to speak, and he basically gave his Christian testimony. Not sure wny they had to change it for the movie. Also, the book is narrated by the adult Mattie Ross and one point, she gives a little sermonette on predestination, that I admit warmed the cockles of my Presbyterian heart:

The Indian woman spoke good English and I learned to my surprise that she too was a Presbyterian. She had been schooled by a missionary. What preachers we had in those days! Truly they took the word into "the highways and hedges." Mrs. Bagby was not a Cumberland Presbyterian but a member of the U.S. or Southern Presbyterian Church. I too am now a member of the Southern Church. I say nothing against the Cumberlands. They broke with the Presbyterian Church because they did not believe a preacher needed a lot of formal education. That is all right but they are not sound on Election. They do not fully accept it. I confess it is a hard doctrine, running contrary to our earthly ideas of fair play, but I can see no way around it. Read I Corinthians 6: 13 and II Timothy 1: 9, 10. Also I Peter 1: 2, 19, 20 and Romans 11: 7. There you have it. It was good for Paul and Silas and it is good enough for me. It is good enough for you too.

So evidently Mattie Ross grew up to be a rock-ribbed Calvinist. And given her character, we shouldn't be the least bit surprised.

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1 Those Calvinists have true grit indeed.



Merry Christmas, Oregon Muse. 

Posted by: grammie winger at December 21, 2013 02:30 PM (P6QsQ)

2 Well this is kinda flamy-skully to me, but Target has got 10% off almost everything until midnight tomorrow.

Posted by: DAve at December 21, 2013 02:32 PM (b7yum)

3 Folk singers are boring and nearly always look like they could use a punch in the nose.

Posted by: Inspector Cussword at December 21, 2013 02:33 PM (zZ+Bs)

4 In my youth I was a Calvinist. But as I aged and gained weight I turned to wearing Wranglers.

Posted by: johnd01 at December 21, 2013 02:33 PM (r0+v0)

5 Didn't see the updated True Grit. John Freaking Wayne! C'mon now. John Freaking Wayne is/was/will always be Rooster Cogburn. Sorry, I guess I'm an ass but there it is.

Posted by: weirdflunky at December 21, 2013 02:34 PM (e/g0k)

6 >>> Folk singers are boring and nearly always look like they could use a punch in the nose Or a guitar tune-up

Posted by: Brother Bluto at December 21, 2013 02:34 PM (Ua6T/)

7 But then again, hippies look like they need a good sock in the face too. I guess it's just young whiners - they all need to be socked in the mouth and told to get a job. It's part of the human condition, I suspect.

Posted by: Inspector Cussword at December 21, 2013 02:34 PM (zZ+Bs)

8 >>> Didn't see the updated True Grit. John Freaking Wayne! C'mon now. John Freaking Wayne is/was/will always be Rooster Cogburn I've only seen parts of the original. The Coen Bros. remake is worth the watch. Jeff Bridges brought it.

Posted by: fluffy at December 21, 2013 02:37 PM (Ua6T/)

9 6  Yeah, but speaking from personal experience their girlfriends can be quite unusual in a cool way

Posted by: DAve at December 21, 2013 02:37 PM (b7yum)

10

 

>>>I think it's the best film the Coens have ever made.<<<

Whatever.

Posted by: The Dude Abides at December 21, 2013 02:39 PM (sTq3l)

11 I saw the True Grit Calvinists open for the Flaming Skulls at the Texas Jam in '79.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 21, 2013 02:39 PM (o9Rp5)

12 8 Fluffy you owe it to yourself to see True Grit and Rooster Cogburn with JW. I don't know if I could watch the updated one which would be unfair to JB's performance. My loss I guess.

Posted by: weirdflunky at December 21, 2013 02:39 PM (e/g0k)

13 12 The new one is one of the few remakes that may eclipse the original

Posted by: DAve at December 21, 2013 02:40 PM (b7yum)

14 Target has got 10% off almost everything until midnight tomorrow.

Posted by: DAve at December 21, 2013 06:32 PM (b7yum)


Target just had 40 million credit card numbers stolen so, make those purchases in cash.

Posted by: Spock at December 21, 2013 02:41 PM (2vl2+)

15 >>> Fluffy you owe it to yourself to see True Grit and Rooster Cogburn with JW They are on some list, somewhere in my head.

Posted by: fluffy at December 21, 2013 02:41 PM (Ua6T/)

16 Didn't see the updated True Grit. John Freaking Wayne! C'mon now. John Freaking Wayne is/was/will always be Rooster Cogburn

That was my attitude going in, but the movie changed my mind completely.  IMO, it was very, very good.  I especially liked the Iris Dement song at the end (Leaning on the Everlasting Arms).   For a coupla joo boys, the Coens have a real ear for music. 

Posted by: pep at December 21, 2013 02:41 PM (6TB1Z)

17 Has anyone seen Anchorman 2? Because, based on trailers...ugh. And no trailer discussion is complete without this recut trailer of The Shining: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmkVWuP_sO0

Posted by: AmishDude at December 21, 2013 02:42 PM (xSegX)

18

Not sure wny they had to change it for the movie.

 

Because RACISM!!!

Posted by: vambo at December 21, 2013 02:42 PM (cQhQZ)

19 I have seen both versions of True Grit.  I prefer the John Wayne version.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at December 21, 2013 02:42 PM (T2V/1)

20 Two words: MMaaattt Daaaaamon!

Posted by: Ostral B Heretic at December 21, 2013 02:44 PM (2vl2+)

21 Glen Campbell was so bad in the original, the remake is at least as good.


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at December 21, 2013 02:45 PM (V70Uh)

22 It looks like the shooting of the lawyer in front of his wife after shopping at an upscale N.J. mall was by horses and not zebras after all. See the sock link.

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at December 21, 2013 02:46 PM (URtb8)

23 No doubt GC was bad. But I refer you to my previous statement: JFW!

Posted by: weirdflunky at December 21, 2013 02:47 PM (e/g0k)

24 I just don't get Ron Burgundy.  I grew up in San Diego and clearly remember the flaming ego of Harold Green.  To me it's just not funny.


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at December 21, 2013 02:47 PM (V70Uh)

25 OT - MWR do not click on this link
http://tinyurl.com/yemwcab

But if you do, you will go out and buy for Israel another bulldozer.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 21, 2013 02:50 PM (dW1LP)

26 Enough with the remakes!  Listen up Hollywood.  John Wayne is Rooster Cogburn, Gene Wilder is Willie Wonka, and leave the Wizard of Oz the fuck alone.  What's next, a remake of Gone With The Wind with Rhett as a hipster douchebag war protester and Scarlett as a pioneer, glass ceiling breaker?  Fuck you, Hollywood.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 21, 2013 02:50 PM (o9Rp5)

27 24 I just don't get Ron Burgundy. I grew up in San Diego and clearly remember the flaming ego of Harold Green. To me it's just not funny. Ron Burgundy was hilarious when he was called Ted Baxter.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 21, 2013 02:51 PM (xSegX)

28 LOL, Anna Puma!  But, gotta love the Israelis:

Unfortunately, the spiderÂ’s habitat is under immediate threat, he said. The Israeli government recently approved mining operations in the region, which could wipe out the creature.

Delta smelt wouldn't stand a chance with those guys!

Posted by: Peaches at December 21, 2013 02:53 PM (8lmkt)

29 The little girl who played Mattie Ross in the second True Grit was far superior to the much too old Kim Darby, but Glen Campbell beat out Matt Damon! hands down.

Posted by: huerfano at December 21, 2013 02:53 PM (bAGA/)

30 I have to admit GC was awful in the original.  But John Wayne made up for it and the plot was better.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at December 21, 2013 02:54 PM (T2V/1)

31 Delta Smelt would be a snack for them.  Maybe we can get PETA to adopt some to live in their DC beltway corporate HQ...

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 21, 2013 02:55 PM (dW1LP)

32 So OregonMuse is also one of us Chosen Frozen! Cool.

Posted by: Grey Fox at December 21, 2013 02:57 PM (e9iRQ)

33 30 I always feel sorry for JW's horse at the end.

Posted by: weirdflunky at December 21, 2013 02:57 PM (e/g0k)

34 True Grit would be a good name for a Granny Porn.

Posted by: garrett at December 21, 2013 02:58 PM (uU50E)

35 I like the True Grit sequel with Hepburn and Wayne.   I have seen the original but it doesn't get re-aired as often, probably because its not as good.   I didn't see the Coen Bro version, I'd probably like it fine but I don't rent dvds or go to cinemas.  

Posted by: PaleRider at December 21, 2013 02:58 PM (ql12X)

36 Hello, everyone. I have attended my AA (Ace of Spades Anonymous) meeting but unfortunately I fell off the wagon and here I am again ;^)- but only briefly. I hope it's o.k. to go off topic just to post this annpuncement. II have posted several times this week about a service that may take place in churches in or near your town this evening about 7:00 or 7;30 p.m. ng. It is called "The Longest Night of the Year" service and is specifically designed to be low key and acknowledge that-frankly-Christmas can be crappy if you have had painful losses during the year. It is based on this hope: "The Christmas spirit is that hope which tenaciously clings to the hearts of the faithful and announces in the face of any Herod the world can produce and all the inn doors slammed in our faces and all the dark nights of our souls that with God all things are possible, that even now unto us a Child is born." Ann Weems . For those that can't find a service in your town (which you may be able to find by googling or binging "Longest Night Of Of The year service and your town, I found one on the internet. I thought I would include it in case people had an interest: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i00txDlx9SY That light shines in the darkness, yet the darkness did not overcome it. John 1:5 God bless, strengthen and heal those in emotional pain this Christmas season. BTW I loved "True Grit- both the book and the movies but I hadn't remembered what she said about various Presbyterians. I also Enjoyed that darkly funny movie "Fargo" .

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 21, 2013 02:59 PM (BC6cY)

37 LOL.  I just saw an ad for "Perfect Polly", a robot pet.

"Do Androids dream of electric sheep" by Philip K. Dick comes to mind.  AKA Blade Runner.


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at December 21, 2013 03:00 PM (V70Uh)

38 I loved the Coen Bros True Grit, despite the fact that Matt Damon had such a prominent role.

Speaking of...could you imagine you were the guys in the Saving Private Ryan mission and after going through all that shit find out it's fucking Matt Damon

Posted by: Albie Damned at December 21, 2013 03:01 PM (cGaCp)

39 I watched the trailer, and two things stand out. 
1) The girl's breasts in a sweater
2) F. Murray Abraham, who we don't see nearly enough of. 

Come to think of it that could also apply to 1).

Posted by: pep at December 21, 2013 03:02 PM (6TB1Z)

40 I don't know why OB has such a problem with this trailer. This is obviously a movie about a guy whose very existence and life journey oozes the art of ennui. ALL Coen Bros movies are art pieces on the absurdity of the American mind-set. Can't you see how absurd you morons look objectively?

Posted by: Rex the Wonder God at December 21, 2013 03:03 PM (w45V0)

41 38 Yeah and as Tom Hanks lies there dying Damon says to him "How do you like THEM apples???"

Posted by: DAve at December 21, 2013 03:03 PM (b7yum)

42 Liked both Roosters , liked the second Mattie better , hated both rangers . Who should have played the ranger ? Ricardo Montalban , of course .

Posted by: awkward davies at December 21, 2013 03:03 PM (WK8VM)

43 Huh on Dec 20th in Iceland in tradition they have a hungry visitor.  Seems like something the Horde would invent.
http://tinyurl.com/m9r77ue
Bjúgnakrækir- the Sausage Swiper.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 21, 2013 03:03 PM (dW1LP)

44 So, unless it starts getting really great reviews, I think I'm going to give it a pass, and wait for the Coens' next one.


It is getting great reviews but from everything I can it's a fairly self-conscious attempt by the Coens to go back to a less structured film.   Given that it's about a character whose life lacks structure, that may be an excellent choice for combining form and function.   The problem is that I have negative interest in the character.  


If you hate your character, why the hell should I like him/her?   See the entire works of Annie Proulx. 


Oh in hilarious news, The Master is going to be on one of the TMCs tonight.   I cannot wait to see the volcano!

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at December 21, 2013 03:04 PM (Gk3SS)

45 Granny Porn



{gets out list of shit I wish I never heard of, adds another item}

Posted by: Peaches at December 21, 2013 03:04 PM (8lmkt)

46 Wow , rex was here and gone in an instant ! Impressive , most Impressive . Said in James Earl Jones voice .

Posted by: awkward davies at December 21, 2013 03:06 PM (WK8VM)

47 'True Grit' with John Wayne was a series of cliches; the recent remake was worse


in contrast, 'The Third Man' was a classic for the ages.  Look for my cameo

Posted by: Hedwig Bliebtreu at December 21, 2013 03:07 PM (omBWL)

48 American Hustle.  See it.

Posted by: Count de Monet at December 21, 2013 03:08 PM (BAS5M)

49 If you hate your character, why the hell should I like him/her? See the entire works of Annie Proulx. ...which is also why their movie--A Serious Man sucks/sucked. I think they hate themselves, their culture and the movie seemed to be a big f-u to their fans like that one Nirvana's song.

Posted by: Yoko Ono Sings the Happies! at December 21, 2013 03:09 PM (RJMhd)

50 I avoid trailers. Inside Llewellyn Davis is getting stellar reviews across the board, some of the highest overall ratings I have seen. Sadly, it isn't showing anywhere near me, so I guess I wait for rental.

Posted by: Name at December 21, 2013 03:10 PM (kdYPC)

51 Has anyone seen Anchorman 2? Because, based on trailers...ugh. *** Rotten Tomatoes has it at 75% Fresh. WTH?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 21, 2013 03:11 PM (DmNpO)

52

What's next, a remake of Gone With The Wind with Rhett as a hipster douchebag  footie pajama guy war protester and Scarlett as a pioneer, glass ceiling breaker? Fuck you, Hollywood.

 

FIFY 

Posted by: Count de Monet at December 21, 2013 03:11 PM (BAS5M)

53 American Hustle. See it. *** there's some talent in that one.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 21, 2013 03:12 PM (DmNpO)

54 True Grit might be in the top 5 of the Cohen brothers films, but it certainly isn't their best.

Oh Brother Where Art Thou is probably their best followed by The Big Lebowski.

No Country For Old Men would be number one if it weren't the multiple horrible endings.

Posted by: Kreplach at December 21, 2013 03:12 PM (Xkr8I)

55 Posted by: Hedwig Bliebtreu at December 21, 2013 07:07 PM (omBWL) You wouldn't be the spokes douche for GLAAD would you?

Posted by: weirdflunky at December 21, 2013 03:12 PM (e/g0k)

56 AlextheChick looking for some gingerbread?
http://tinyurl.com/m5ygj8d

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 21, 2013 03:13 PM (dW1LP)

57 Chick singing the anthems at the Wings v Leafs is a cutie.

Posted by: garrett at December 21, 2013 03:13 PM (uU50E)

58 Really? Was Anchorman all that? It can only go downhill from there.

Posted by: Yoko Ono Sings the Happies! at December 21, 2013 03:14 PM (RJMhd)

59 Inside Llewellyn Davis...


Uhura, no.

Posted by: Phil Robertson at December 21, 2013 03:14 PM (m7YLl)

60 He must work for GLAAD with a hash like (omBWL)!

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at December 21, 2013 03:15 PM (URtb8)

61 google me, darling.  I was getting jiggy before your momma was born

Posted by: Hedwig Bliebtreu at December 21, 2013 03:15 PM (omBWL)

62 AlextheChick looking for some gingerbread?
http://tinyurl.com/m5ygj8d
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 21, 2013 07:13 PM (dW1LP)


That.   Is.   Awesome.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at December 21, 2013 03:16 PM (Gk3SS)

63 The last good movie was Inception never listen to Ace when it comes to movies. Ace is the contra-indicator on that subject.

Posted by: Yoko Ono Sings the Happies! at December 21, 2013 03:17 PM (RJMhd)

64 Uhura for "uh"... Okay you done messed up, tablet spell checker.
Not happy, happy happy. 

Posted by: Phil Robertson at December 21, 2013 03:17 PM (m7YLl)

65 "Not sure why they had to change it for the movie."

Oh you know why. Same reason they left it out of the Johnny Cash biopic.

Posted by: PJ at December 21, 2013 03:18 PM (ZWaLo)

66 @55 how about the look on the baker's face? Biting off a piece of Cake Girl.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at December 21, 2013 03:19 PM (xq1UY)

67 Also, don't want to see a movie about friends of Pajama Boy. Ick.

Posted by: PJ at December 21, 2013 03:20 PM (ZWaLo)

68 Count de Monet, That is hysterically funny! I'm still laughing. I wonder how much money we spent on pajama footie ad? Was idiot paid?

Posted by: Carol at December 21, 2013 03:21 PM (z4WKX)

69
I was recently in a coffee shop in Hobe Sound, Florida and saw a face but was unable to affix a name.  After the stooped old man with cane left, I asked the waitress if she knew him.  She acknowledged she knew him and served him frequently.  That decrepit old man with cane was Bert Reynolds.  Life has not been kind to Mr. Reynolds.

 Let me suggest he led a life of excess, possibly cocaine or pussy.  Or maybe a combination of both with poor genes.  After seeing Reynolds, I'm thankful for my gift of good health and longevity. 

Posted by: Doctor Fish at December 21, 2013 03:21 PM (pJF+c)

70 Calvinists (myself included) believe in the strange idea that the word of God actually means what it says, and not what people want it to mean. For example, society pretty much completely subscribes to the idea that people should follow their hearts. But in Jeremiah 17 we learn that "The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?" For all those who were offended by Phil Robertson's paraphrasing from Paul's letter to the Corinthians, I submit that their problem is with God, and not with Phil. Sodomy is not only a sin, but it is one of the worst sins-- according the word of God. The message is that the world, including liberals, many conservatives, even many professing Christians, hate the actual word of God and falsely think that they can believe anything they want without any eventual consequences. And if you tell them they are on the path to destruction (in an effort to forewarn them and point them toward salvation from eternal damnation), then the world responds by saying Christians are hateful and vile for their strange beliefs. Arminians respond to the world's hatred by perverting the word of God in telling unrepentant people how much God loves them and just wants to save them, if only people would decide to come to Him. Arminian's God is not the same God described in plain English in the KJV of the bible. God is sovereign, not weak. God does not depend on man for anything, including whether or not man will decide on his own volition to come to Him. Calvinists, on the other hand, warn people to repent. Read "Sinners in the hands of Angry God" by Jonathan Edwards. Repent by falling on your face for the vile sinner you are, and beg for God's mercy and forgiveness. Forgiveness is not to be found on the merits of anything within you as there is nothing in you nor anything you can do to deserve forgiveness, but is based on the sacrifice Christ (God incarnate) alone made on the cross for the forgiveness of the sins of those, and only those, whom He died for. Two messages, one true, the other one false. One works, the other gives no reason for people to even think they need to repent as God already loves them.

Posted by: Andy in FL at December 21, 2013 03:23 PM (nf/Xx)

71 Let me suggest he led a life of excess, possibly cocaine or pussy. Or maybe a combination of both with poor genes. After seeing Reynolds, I'm thankful for my gift of good health and longevity. *** Well, he's 77 years old. He's not exactly in the prime of his life.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 21, 2013 03:23 PM (DmNpO)

72 what's this? weirdflunky is now spelling his name right? it's a sign..

Posted by: soothsayer at December 21, 2013 03:24 PM (hGU7+)

73 That's Burt Reynolds if you mean the guy screwed (alot) by Loni Anderson! He's 77 years old.

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at December 21, 2013 03:26 PM (URtb8)

74 And.... he played football before performing stunts in movies. He's allowed to be an old man now.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 21, 2013 03:26 PM (DmNpO)

75 never listen to Ace when it comes to movies. Word. Except for MILLER'S CROSSING.

Posted by: soothsayer at December 21, 2013 03:27 PM (hGU7+)

76 71 heh. I wondered if anyone would ever catch it. I before e except after c and all that.

Posted by: weirdflunky at December 21, 2013 03:27 PM (e/g0k)

77 One works, the other gives no reason for people to even think they need to repent as God already loves them.

OTOH, Calvinism gives people no reason to repent, since they're probably Satan chow anyway.

Posted by: pep at December 21, 2013 03:27 PM (6TB1Z)

78 All entities possess a nature. It is impossible for an entity to exist, to truly be an entity and yet lack any nature. That nature need not be simple; it can be complex, and often is. Nor need it be constant; it can be variable, and often is. At the moment of its creation -- its coming into existence -- an entity possesses an initial nature. This nature can then be, and often is, altered through interaction with itself (purely internal interactions, an abstract notion) and with the other entities in existence, and, in fact, a combination of the two, which is generally common. The other entities in existence, being entities, also have an initial nature, acquired at the moment of creation, as well as a developed nature, and the nature of the interaction between the various entities is determined by the developed natures of the various interacting entities. And the developed natures of the various interacting entities is determined by their initial natures and the manner in which the various interactions end up altering/developing those initial natures. That seems somewhat complex, and a little redundant, but generally correct. Later, all. God bless. :-)

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at December 21, 2013 03:27 PM (x1aCh)

79 Burt Reynolds is going downhill fast. I was surprised to see him barely walking in Fast N Loud.

Posted by: soothsayer at December 21, 2013 03:29 PM (hGU7+)

80 Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at December 21, 2013 07:27 PM (x1aCh) What he said.

Posted by: weirdflunky at December 21, 2013 03:29 PM (e/g0k)

81 76 Not true. Calvinists obviously believe in the forgiveness of sin. That's why they're Calvinists.

Posted by: Andy in FL at December 21, 2013 03:30 PM (nf/Xx)

82
He's not exactly in the prime of his life.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 21, 2013 07:23 PM (DmNpO)


True, and my comparative was probably a little unfair?  I was only married to one woman, never succumbed to drugs, and am slightly older than Reynolds.

Posted by: Doctor Fish at December 21, 2013 03:30 PM (pJF+c)

83 Burt Reynolds was in an episode of King Of Queens not even 10 yrs ago.and he looked great.

Posted by: soothsayer at December 21, 2013 03:30 PM (hGU7+)

84 OTOH, Calvinism gives people no reason to repent, since they're probably Satan chow anyway. Not exactly. The whole point of Calvinism is that God makes the first move - unless God works in your heart you are unable and unwilling to repent. Blessing proceeds obedience, as my pastor likes to say.

Posted by: Grey Fox at December 21, 2013 03:31 PM (e9iRQ)

85 It's cold. It's wet. It's freezing wet drizzly rain ice stuff all over everything. Nobody in their right mind would do anything but snuggle down with a good book, kindle, blog, or old movie. Ha! I'm going to the ballet, to see my daughter in several roles and enjoy an evening of fine cultural entertainment among my sneezing, coughing neighbors, but mostly --okay, entirely-- the former. And here I thought our annual pre-Christmas shleps to the arts center would be over after she grew up! Foolish me. (Wife! Wake me up when daughter comes on stage... or if I'm snoring!)

Posted by: Nimblefoot Nutcrackers, Santa's mindful webworker at December 21, 2013 03:31 PM (U13jb)

86 17 year old girl shot in Colorado last Friday has just passed away. May God help her family.

Posted by: Carol at December 21, 2013 03:32 PM (z4WKX)

87 I used to be friends with an actor on Evening shade who described Burt Reynolds as such:  A great guy with a great heart, who has the ability to take out his revolver, take careful aim, and shoot himself in the foot on a regular basis.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 21, 2013 03:33 PM (o9Rp5)

88 Loni's parents told her not to get involved with a druggy.  She once said she regretted her decision to ignore their advice.


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at December 21, 2013 03:34 PM (V70Uh)

89 Someone shoot me now.

The missus has us watching a Robert Redford production of Marie Antionette on Sundance channel tonight.


Posted by: Albie Damned at December 21, 2013 03:35 PM (cGaCp)

90 Just looked at the Weather Channel. That is one big ass front including rain, sleet and snow. It reaches from Texas to N.E.

Posted by: seamrog at December 21, 2013 03:35 PM (BfE/P)

91 Also, there are many reasons to repent. Beside escaping from eternal damnation, through true repentance and forgiveness one is regenerated, becomes a new creature, and leads a more purposeful life.

Posted by: Andy in FL at December 21, 2013 03:35 PM (nf/Xx)

92 It had to be the late 1970.  Burt was in a TV movie with Inger Stevens.

Lucky bastard.  That was her last film.

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at December 21, 2013 03:37 PM (V70Uh)

93 Travel Channel is where I am parked.  Bacon Paradise.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 21, 2013 03:37 PM (dW1LP)

94 So, would you rather be a Calvinist or a Hobbesian?

Posted by: Ostral B Heretic at December 21, 2013 03:40 PM (2vl2+)

95 Posted by: Andy in FL at December 21, 2013 07:30 PM (nf/Xx) And yet Dwight Moody found Scotland very resistant to teaching and, when he asked what the problem was, was told it was because the Scots were so wrapped up in predestination that they didn't figure there was any point in repenting since they were already either doomed or not. Essentially the entire nation had given into despair and a complete denial of personal responsibility. I'm sure that wasn't what Calvin meant, but generations of Scots were lost to that lack of understanding.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at December 21, 2013 03:42 PM (GDulk)

96 Carol - he probably was paid.  Others on here have spotted him in previous administration/OFA ads.  His career is  poised to take off!

Posted by: Count de Monet at December 21, 2013 03:42 PM (BAS5M)

97 So, would you rather be a Calvinist or a Hobbesian? I was mentally composing a comment to the effect that Hobbes wrote in favor of absolute monarchies whereas the Calvinists tended to be on the side opposing them, when it occurred to me that you might, just might, be referring to something else...

Posted by: Grey Fox at December 21, 2013 03:43 PM (e9iRQ)

98 @HomefrontHugs is trying to send hand warmers to the troops. Pitch in if you can. https://twitter.com/HomefrontHugs

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 21, 2013 03:44 PM (DmNpO)

99 Not exactly. The whole point of Calvinism is that God makes the first move - unless God works in your heart you are unable and unwilling to repent.

IOW, predestination.  God's already decided (the few) who will be saved and the rest are toast.  Sorry, that's not a recipe to make people toe the line.  My statement stands.

Posted by: pep at December 21, 2013 03:44 PM (6TB1Z)

100 My favorite thing about Calvin? Burning people at the stake!

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 21, 2013 03:44 PM (oFCZn)

101 I'm sure that wasn't what Calvin meant, but generations of Scots were lost to that lack of understanding.

Please tell me how that's NOT what he meant.

Posted by: pep at December 21, 2013 03:45 PM (6TB1Z)

102 IOW, predestination. God's already decided (the few) who will be saved and the rest are toast. Sorry, that's not a recipe to make people toe the line. My statement stands. Posted by: pep at December 21, 2013 07:44 PM (6TB1Z) Well YOU could be! I mean, you could get right up to the end of your life and suddenly God reaches out to you! And then you go to the head of the short line. It smells better up there too!

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 21, 2013 03:46 PM (oFCZn)

103 I must admit that I had a thing for a folk singer or two in my younger years. Heh.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at December 21, 2013 03:49 PM (dfYL9)

104 Burning people at the stake! Actually, Calvin was very resistant to burning people. The government of Geneva, on the other hand, was not... Even at the best times Calvin could influence but not command the civil authorities. They threw him out of the city at one point, after all.

Posted by: Grey Fox at December 21, 2013 03:49 PM (e9iRQ)

105 Count de Monet, PJ boy's career is going to take off as an example of everything that is wrong with TFGcare!

Posted by: Carol at December 21, 2013 03:50 PM (z4WKX)

106 True Grit might be in the top 5 of the Cohen brothers films, but it certainly isn't their best.

Oh Brother Where Art Thou is probably their best followed by The Big Lebowski.

No Country For Old Men would be number one if it weren't the multiple horrible endings.

Posted by: Kreplach at December 21, 2013 07:12 PM (Xkr8I)

With all due respect, Hudsucker Proxy is their best movie by far.  If the soundtrack wasn't enough, Paul Newman as Sidney Mooseburger and Charles Durning as Waring Hudsucker, and the Hudsucker Building (it deserves its own mention) should seal the deal.  The Future Is Now!

Posted by: HTL at December 21, 2013 03:50 PM (QV8Gr)

107 Is this the Theology thread ???

Posted by: seamrog at December 21, 2013 03:50 PM (BfE/P)

108 41 Liked both Roosters , liked the second Mattie better , hated both rangers . Who should have played the ranger ? Ricardo Montalban , of course . Posted by: awkward davies at December 21, 2013 07:03 PM (WK8VM) With a saddle made out of rich Corinthian leather of course.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 21, 2013 03:51 PM (oFCZn)

109 My favourite thing about Calvin: the snowman wars!

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at December 21, 2013 03:51 PM (URtb8)

110 106 Is this the Theology thread ??? Posted by: seamrog

No, you're looking for Arguments.  Room 122, down the hall (**stupid git**)

Posted by: pep at December 21, 2013 03:51 PM (6TB1Z)

111 106 Is this the Theology thread ??? Posted by: seamrog at December 21, 2013 07:50 PM (BfE/P) It's the Airing of Grievances thread, so yeah.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 21, 2013 03:52 PM (oFCZn)

112 Ow! My head!!!

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at December 21, 2013 03:53 PM (URtb8)

113 Is this a heresy? 

Chocolate covered bacon?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 21, 2013 03:53 PM (dW1LP)

114 No, no, no it's the John Freaking Wayne thread!

Posted by: weirdflunky at December 21, 2013 03:54 PM (e/g0k)

115 Please tell me how that's NOT what he meant. It is not what he meant. Basically, what he said was that people were too sinful to repent without God first working in their hearts. If you want to repent, that is evidence that God has already started working. It is pretty much basic Protestant doctrine of salvation through grace alone, with the recognition that God is at work right from the beginning.

Posted by: Grey Fox at December 21, 2013 03:54 PM (e9iRQ)

116 Hollyweird doesn't need a dime from this household... i don't care how good the movie might be.

starve the beast or stop complaining about the animal you feed shitting on you.

Posted by: redc1c4 at December 21, 2013 03:54 PM (q+fqH)

117 Not sure how else to say it.

Posted by: Grey Fox at December 21, 2013 03:55 PM (e9iRQ)

118 It's the Heresy Thread.

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at December 21, 2013 03:55 PM (V70Uh)

119 Dinner is finally ready, so I have to go.

Posted by: Grey Fox at December 21, 2013 03:55 PM (e9iRQ)

120 109 pep This isn't an argument, it's contradiction. How much time do I have left?

Posted by: seamrog at December 21, 2013 03:55 PM (BfE/P)

121 After seeing all the pain and insults this guy is enduring, you don't want to hear him sing? If he's a real musician, all that painful experience is going to make him a great singer and songwriter (if he has talent). I argue this is a great trailer. The character is a musician and the Cohens made me want to hear him sing.

Posted by: E.F. Taylor at December 21, 2013 03:55 PM (mzCga)

122 112 Is this a heresy? Chocolate covered bacon? Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 21, 2013 07:53 PM (dW1LP) If you're an Orthodox Jew, yeah.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 21, 2013 03:55 PM (oFCZn)

123 119 109 pep

This isn't an argument, it's contradiction.

How much time do I have left?

No it's not.

Posted by: pep at December 21, 2013 03:57 PM (6TB1Z)

124 Are you arguing in your spare time, pep?

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at December 21, 2013 03:57 PM (URtb8)

125 I looked forward to the Coens True Grit but ended up not liking it all, it was one of those movies where the seconds seem like minutes for me. My take away from it was 2 hours of people standing around while talking, then talking while standing around, then standing while talking and occasionally talking while standing. To mix things up  they'd sometimes sit and talk and then talk while sitting.

Posted by: booger at December 21, 2013 03:57 PM (xRDdL)

126 Did you hear about the dyslexic, somnambulant atheist ?

Posted by: seamrog at December 21, 2013 03:58 PM (BfE/P)

127 The 2 Guns trailer made me want to see it even though the last Marky Mark movie, Pain and Gain made me want to gouge my eyes out . Turns out it was a fun movie.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at December 21, 2013 03:58 PM (fdnD9)

128 Basically, what he said was that people were too sinful to repent without God first working in their hearts. If you want to repent, that is evidence that God has already started working.

Precisely.  If God hasn't chosen to work in you, there's nothing for it but the big barbecue.  You have no say in the matter. 

Look, I don't mean to belittle your faith, I really don't, but this was not a good way to sell the power of faith. 

Posted by: pep at December 21, 2013 03:58 PM (6TB1Z)

129 88 - BLAM! Glad I could help relieve your misery...

Posted by: TimB52 at December 21, 2013 03:59 PM (ya630)

130 The greatest gift Calvin gave us was Calvinball.

Posted by: --- at December 21, 2013 03:59 PM (MMC8r)

131 Meanwhile in South Sudan the UN has lost a helicopter.  And three US aircraft have been hit and four service members wounded.

http://www.staradvertiser.com/news/breaking/236871321.html

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 21, 2013 04:00 PM (dW1LP)

132 122 It most certainly is !

Posted by: seamrog at December 21, 2013 04:00 PM (BfE/P)

133 >>Burt Reynolds is going downhill fast. I was surprised to see him barely walking in Fast N Loud. He looked pretty good when he was on Jeopardy.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at December 21, 2013 04:00 PM (V4CBV)

134

Great summary. I agree. True Grit was an excellent movie, and the only one of theirs I've enjoyed. By the way, it was far and away their most successful. Now they're back to their old selves with a mopey, desultory story.

And the effective movie trailer is becoming a lost art.

 

Posted by: rrpjr at December 21, 2013 04:00 PM (s/yC1)

135 Posted by: Grey Fox at December 21, 2013 07:54 PM (e9iRQ) That was my understanding. We love God because he first loved us and have faith in his redeeming love only because he has given us the faith in the first place.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at December 21, 2013 04:01 PM (GDulk)

136 "Oh Brother Where Art Thou is probably their best..." ------------------------------------- It COULD have been their best, if they had not miscast the lead role. I think Clooney is a good enough actor and did as well as he could but it just does not work. At all. He looks like an urban man with a manicure and always will, no matter what rags you throw on him.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at December 21, 2013 04:01 PM (dfYL9)

137 heh, Norm.McDonald does the best Burt Reynolds

Posted by: soothsayer at December 21, 2013 04:02 PM (vzJm/)

138 Oooooh, is it heresy chocolate on the bacon ?

Posted by: fat meg at December 21, 2013 04:02 PM (BfE/P)

139 Charles Portis wrote True Grit.

Posted by: Alamo at December 21, 2013 04:03 PM (C0alm)

140 114 Please tell me how that's NOT what he meant. It is not what he meant. Basically, what he said was that people were too sinful to repent without God first working in their hearts. If you want to repent, that is evidence that God has already started working. It is pretty much basic Protestant doctrine of salvation through grace alone, with the recognition that God is at work right from the beginning. Posted by: Grey Fox at December 21, 2013 07:54 PM (e9iRQ) So, you are not responsible for your repentance, but you are responsible for your sins?

Posted by: eman at December 21, 2013 04:03 PM (EWsrI)

141 Just finished shopping tonight.  Son is spending the night with friends and their divorced (asshole) dad on Tybee.

Husband and I decided to go downtown to shop, vs. the malls.  As big a pain in the ass as it is to find a spot to park, once we got out and began strolling the streets and squares, it boosted my spirits.  It was awesome, going in the small shops, and shopping in our fave men's store for my husband and son.

The downside?  Pajama Boys dressed in elf costumes, etc.  Jeebus, this town, even when SCAD is out of session, is crawling with mincing hipsters.  Ugh.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 21, 2013 04:04 PM (lVPtV)

142 So, where does Free Will come in?

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at December 21, 2013 04:04 PM (V70Uh)

143 Sorry to go O/T, just had to vent.  Hipsters will be the death of us.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 21, 2013 04:05 PM (lVPtV)

144 Sorry to go O/T, just had to vent. Hipsters will be the death of us.

Yes, how dare you divert us from our topic of Coen movies, Calvinism, and old Monty Python routines. 

Posted by: pep at December 21, 2013 04:06 PM (6TB1Z)

145 If this is the "Grievance Thread", is anyone betting whether or not Justine's rich daddy will make Buzzfeed Andrew regret pillorying his little girl?

Posted by: NeverEvermore at December 21, 2013 04:06 PM (hRV3r)

146 It COULD have been their best, if they had not miscast the lead role. I think Clooney is a good enough actor and did as well as he could but it just does not work.
At all.
He looks like an urban man with a manicure and always will, no matter what rags you throw on him.

I just saw 'Gravity' and thought that a lot of other actors would have been a lot better than Clooney.

Posted by: --- at December 21, 2013 04:06 PM (MMC8r)

147 130 Meanwhile in South Sudan the UN has lost a helicopter. And three US aircraft have been hit and four service members wounded. http://www.staradvertiser.com/news/breaking/236871321.html Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 21, 2013 08:00 PM (dW1LP) ------------------------------- Fortunately Obama is POTUS, so this is of no importance. In fact, for all practical purposes, it didn't really happen.

Posted by: MSM at December 21, 2013 04:07 PM (dfYL9)

148 142 OOOhhhhh Free Will, is that the movie about the whale ? I liked it and identified with it.

Posted by: fat meg at December 21, 2013 04:07 PM (BfE/P)

149 143 Yes Jane they will if the slack bastards can find enough motivation to actually do anything. Otherwise well who knows.

Posted by: weirdflunky at December 21, 2013 04:07 PM (e/g0k)

150 Cohen Bros. have made a couple of duds, IMHO.
This looks a lot like one.
But I generally like their movies.

Posted by: navybrat at December 21, 2013 04:07 PM (AW7Gr)

151 138 Charles Portis wrote True Grit. Oops. Thank you, I corrected the spelling.

Posted by: OregonMuse at December 21, 2013 04:07 PM (fd0Pp)

152 Is it OK to come here and air grievances?

Posted by: Dept. Of Acuracy at December 21, 2013 04:08 PM (MhA4j)

153 148 142 OOOhhhhh Free Will, is that the movie about the whale ? I liked it and identified with it. Posted by: fat meg

No, you're thinking of the porn movie, Free My Willie.

Posted by: pep at December 21, 2013 04:08 PM (6TB1Z)

154 Posted by: pep at December 21, 2013 07:58 PM (6TB1Z) I suspect that combining the understanding of just how thorough "The World" is in "God so loved the world" with what Grey Fox said is important.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at December 21, 2013 04:09 PM (GDulk)

155 I'm sure Barry is worried as all hell about our troops in Sudan.  In between body surfing and eating shrimp. 

I hate that bastard with the heat of a million suns.  But I repeat myself.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 21, 2013 04:09 PM (lVPtV)

156 The Airing of Grievances is one of the main features of AoSHQ.  Have at it.

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at December 21, 2013 04:10 PM (V70Uh)

157 Here's a grievance... I contacted my soon-to-be BIL's sister (Dottie) to let her know what my sister wants for Christmas because I know BIL won't put a lot of thought into it. She wants a day at the spa, so I gave Dottie the address of a salon near me. Just now my sister texts me to tell me that BIL wants to know where the nail salon is located. So... so much for surprising her for Christmas.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 21, 2013 04:10 PM (DmNpO)

158 "Yes, how dare you divert us from our topic of Coen movies, Calvinism, and old Monty Python routines"

----------

Pining for the fjords, are you?

Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 21, 2013 04:10 PM (o9Rp5)

159 Next, feats of strength.

Posted by: eman at December 21, 2013 04:10 PM (EWsrI)

160 I do remember Matt Damon getting his ass handed to him at one point in True Grit, i enjoyed that part.

MATT DAMON.

Posted by: booger at December 21, 2013 04:11 PM (xRDdL)

161 I love the Coen Brothers. I haven't seen True Grit, though. I've heard that it is more faithful to the book than the John Wayne version, which I thought was great. I haven't read the novel, but it has stupendously good reviews on Amazon. I haven't been going to see many movies in theaters in recent years, and I had my cable TV disconnected. So I guess I'll have to buy the DVD. I want to see Inside Llewyn Davis. Apparently it's about an aspiring folksinger from the Midwest who arrives in Greenwich Village in 1961, so it sounds like it's right up my alley.

Posted by: rickl at December 21, 2013 04:11 PM (sdi6R)

162 X Factor Season Finale Beaten by Charlie Brown Xmas Re-run!

Posted by: Boss Moss at December 21, 2013 04:12 PM (ShvtX)

163 Posted by: Albie Damned at December 21, 2013 07:35 PM (cGaCp) Albie, Did you do something to upset the Missus? I feel for you having to watch that hater Redford. Have a drink, maybe that will make the time pass faster, at least I hope so for your sake.

Posted by: Carol at December 21, 2013 04:13 PM (z4WKX)

164 I liked the True Grit remake. Wasn't that a few years back? We're all John Marston now.

Posted by: Boss Moss at December 21, 2013 04:13 PM (ShvtX)

165 I put the Charlie Brown Christmas on my DVR because Comcast wants me to pay either $2.99 or $3.99 to watch it. Does Comcast know it is Christmastime?

Posted by: Carol at December 21, 2013 04:15 PM (z4WKX)

166 My evil Life Coach s-i-l, who is "hosting" Christmas at her mini-mansion, thanks to the wallet she married, asked me to bring a "showcase cake" for the day.

First of all, two words I've never heard or uttered:  Showcase Cake.

So, because I'm stressed and worn out, I ordered a wonderful (an not cheap) cake from an incredible bakery here.  Did I say pricey?

I e-mailed her that it would be great, etc.  She e-mailed me back, "I'm sure it will be, but I'm disappointed you didn't go with a classic coconut cake."

I hate that scrawny, angry-faced "Life Coach" with the heat of a billion suns.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 21, 2013 04:15 PM (lVPtV)

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie © at December 21, 2013 04:16 PM (BDH94)

168 125 No, I didn't hear about the dyslexic somnambulant atheist ? What of it ?

Posted by: pjboy at December 21, 2013 04:16 PM (BfE/P)

169 Things have been kind of depressing around here today.

Did anyone notice that Kate Upton is single and available?

Posted by: Stringer Davis at December 21, 2013 04:17 PM (xq1UY)

170 141 ----"... even when SCAD is out of session,...." Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 21, 2013 08:04 PM (lVPtV) -------------------------------- Heh. My younger daughter went there for a year. She loved Savannah, still loves arts and crafts, but, PRAISE GOD ALMIGHTY, decided that racking up $60,000 in debt for a BFA in jewelry making might not be the wisest move. Hah!

Posted by: MSM at December 21, 2013 04:18 PM (dfYL9)

171 he basically gave his Christian testimony. Not sure wny they had to change it for the movie. I AM OFFENDED!! And I haven't even seen it yet.

Posted by: Hypersensitive Atheist Anti Christian Asshole[/i] [/b] at December 21, 2013 04:18 PM (5ikDv)

172 I DVR'd Rudolph, the Grinch, Charlie Brown Christmas and Thanksgiving, and the Year Without a Santa Clause(Hot and Cold Misers).

Posted by: Boss Moss at December 21, 2013 04:19 PM (ShvtX)

173 I hate that bastard with the heat of a million suns. But I repeat myself. Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 21, 2013 08:09 PM (lVPtV) I hate that scrawny, angry-faced "Life Coach" with the heat of a billion suns. Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 21, 2013 08:15 PM (lVPtV) You hate your sister-in-law a thousand times more than Obama? Wow, she must really be evil.

Posted by: rickl at December 21, 2013 04:19 PM (sdi6R)

174 My evil Life Coach s-i-l, who is "hosting" Christmas at her mini-mansion, thanks to the wallet she married, asked me to bring a "showcase cake" for the day. First of all, two words I've never heard or uttered: Showcase Cake. So, because I'm stressed and worn out, I ordered a wonderful (an not cheap) cake from an incredible bakery here. Did I say pricey? I e-mailed her that it would be great, etc. She e-mailed me back, "I'm sure it will be, but I'm disappointed you didn't go with a classic coconut cake." I hate that scrawny, angry-faced "Life Coach" with the heat of a billion suns. *** It seems as if the life coach needs a ckufng coach of her own. Perhaps a Dear Abby type.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 21, 2013 04:20 PM (DmNpO)

175 170 ---- Off MSM sock!

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at December 21, 2013 04:20 PM (dfYL9)

176 Posted by: rickl at December 21, 2013 08:19 PM (sdi6R)


heh.  Both of them, equally. 

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 21, 2013 04:20 PM (lVPtV)

177 You hate your sister-in-law a thousand times more than Obama? Wow, she must really be evil. *** Nice catch.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 21, 2013 04:21 PM (DmNpO)

178 64 "Not sure why they had to change it for the movie."
Oh you know why. Same reason they left it out of the Johnny Cash biopic.

Yeah - how could a Native American (noble, oppressed, absolute moral authority) be a member of the Christian oppressor class.  Does not compute.

Posted by: duke at December 21, 2013 04:21 PM (enhDu)

179 I find that if you curse annoying relatives to their faces that it cuts into future quality time with them.

Posted by: Boss Moss at December 21, 2013 04:21 PM (ShvtX)

180 More so, a Miss Manners type.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 21, 2013 04:22 PM (DmNpO)

181 171 he basically gave his Christian testimony. Not sure wny they had to change it for the movie. I AM OFFENDED!! And I haven't even seen it yet. Posted by: Hypersensitive Atheist Anti Christian Asshole at December 21, 2013 08:18 PM (5ikDv) They did that to not show you a Christian Indian and to show you white people treating Indians like dogs.

Posted by: eman at December 21, 2013 04:22 PM (EWsrI)

182 a thousand times more than Obama?

You know what I was told there'd be none of?

Posted by: Stringer Davis at December 21, 2013 04:23 PM (xq1UY)

183 Is there anything to this pink Himalayan Salt stuff? I just bought some.

Posted by: Boss Moss at December 21, 2013 04:23 PM (ShvtX)

184 168 pjboy Thanks for asking you little mewling quim. put down your hot cocoa, button up your rear hatch, take off your mickey mouse watch and pay attention. I'll try to explain it so even a Madison grad can get it, but I cannot promise comprehension. The dyslexic somnambulant atheist unknowingly walked the floors every night wondering if there really was a Dog. (ba-dump-bump)

Posted by: seamrog at December 21, 2013 04:23 PM (BfE/P)

185
It seems as if the life coach needs a ckufng coach of her own. Perhaps a Dear Abby type.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 21, 2013 08:20 PM (DmNpO)




Stupid bitch just bragged to me, "As hard as it is for me to host the family, _____ and I will be off to Cabo San Lucas right after for our usual ten days.  Then, the end of January we're off to Egypt on safari!!"  I swear to gawd, that's how she writes.  She's ugly, evil, and demanding.  And her husband just came home from several weeks at a psych hospital for depression.  I could write a damned book.



I keep taking deep breaths, going "It's just one day.  It's just one day."



Egypt.  Safari.  What could go wrong? 

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 21, 2013 04:25 PM (lVPtV)

186

gotta post this link: a very good one:

http://moonbattery. com/?p=40484 (take out space, pajama boy)

Posted by: mallfly at December 21, 2013 04:25 PM (zjcTL)

187

Jane D'oh: Your SIL sounds like a piece of work, alright. How did that family manage to pop out one good one (Mr. D'oh)?

 

I've never heard of a Showcase Cake either. If I heard anybody talking about a Showcase Cake, the first thought in my mind would be "Ah, a pretentious Martha Stewart wannabe."

 

I'm going to make a Bundt cake for Christmas, just like mom always did, although hers were the best.

Posted by: Donna V. at December 21, 2013 04:25 PM (R3gO3)

188 Posted by: Boss Moss at December 21, 2013 08:23 PM (ShvtX) Just got an add for World Market that had pink salt slabs. I guess you're supposed to get them hot in the oven and then they flavor whatever you cook on them. That's only a guess though. Washing up seems like a real problem.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at December 21, 2013 04:25 PM (GDulk)

189 190 How do they ever get those into the grinder?

Posted by: Boss Moss at December 21, 2013 04:27 PM (ShvtX)

190 One would have thought safaris took pace one tier of nations farther south than Egypt. A photo safari perhaps? Things are still quite unsettled there, you know.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at December 21, 2013 04:28 PM (xq1UY)

191 Jane, I hate to sound like an ignorant Ga. rube but since I am, can you explain what a "life coach" is or does?

Posted by: weirdflunky at December 21, 2013 04:28 PM (e/g0k)

192 184 Is there anything to this pink Himalayan Salt stuff? I just bought some.

Posted by: Boss Moss at December 21, 2013 08:23 PM (ShvtX)




We were just in a store here called the Salt Table.  It's amazing.  We were at an open house with the owner and his wife at an open house last night.  He's going to be selling his wares on HSN soon. 



One of the interesting items they sell are Himalayan salt shot glasses for doing shots of Tequila.  They also sell a habanero sugar, which, after we left, I thought would be interesting on cookies or brownies.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 21, 2013 04:28 PM (lVPtV)

193 Egypt. Safari. What could go wrong? *** He might forget and fly back without her?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 21, 2013 04:29 PM (DmNpO)

194 I keep repeating myself.  *looks at wine glass*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 21, 2013 04:29 PM (lVPtV)

195

Joined a fitness club this week with a great pre-postholiday promotion.  First day set for today and puttered around all day.  Finally got motivated and prepped to go   and start a new healthy habit.

 

Got my paperwork ready to show I'm a new member and receive my membership card at the front desk.  Noticed the Club Hours as 8am to 6pm on Sat and Sun.  It was 6:15 pm.  *headdesk*

Posted by: Count de Monet at December 21, 2013 04:29 PM (BAS5M)

196 Maybe she will get to meet Jerry Rivers.

Posted by: Boss Moss at December 21, 2013 04:29 PM (ShvtX)

197 re pink Himalayan salt: from Wiki-->
The chemical composition of Himalayan salt includes 95–96% sodium chloride, contaminated with 2–3% polyhalite and small amounts of ten other minerals. The pink color is due to iron oxide.

So, people are paying top dollar to eat rust. 

Posted by: pep at December 21, 2013 04:30 PM (6TB1Z)

198 pink Himalayan Salt

Salt melts at 800C so you can make your own but it won't be pink.  Toss it on the grill and cook with it.  Interesting but after a few cooking sessions the novelty wears off.


Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at December 21, 2013 04:31 PM (kxSZr)

199 Egypt. Safari. What could go wrong? LOL Jane, what indeed. White woman w/ her winning personality might just piss off the wrong muzzie fundie. For a "life-coach" she seems to make stupid choices in her own life re: vacation spots and timing.

Posted by: The Farmer at December 21, 2013 04:31 PM (eBupg)

200 Rust is danged expensive. Not as salty as Morton's.

Posted by: Boss Moss at December 21, 2013 04:31 PM (ShvtX)

201 to show you white people treating Indians like dogs.
That doesn't sound anti-Indian to me.

Posted by: a dyslexic, somnambulant atheist at December 21, 2013 04:31 PM (URtb8)

202 I should look at TV Guide once in a while because a Charlie Brown special is on ABC & I missed first half hour of it. I would have put on DVR too.

Posted by: Carol at December 21, 2013 04:31 PM (z4WKX)

203 Jane- I've got a greedy, worldly stepmonster I could tell you all about, but I'll just tell you about the special cocktails I'm making for Christmas Eve. Actually, any cocktail will do. The special ingredient is a swizzle stick that you stir only the special persons drink with. This swizzle sticks gets scraped under the toilet bowl of every gas station on the way to the gathering. Cabo Wabo!

Posted by: Justamom at December 21, 2013 04:31 PM (Sptt8)

204 I just finished wrapping presents, which I hate, hate, hate.

One of the kittehs was under the tree studying a bow.  I looked at her and said, "You screw with my packages, I'll kill you."  She literally looked at me and fled.

I guess I'm in "a mood."

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 21, 2013 04:31 PM (lVPtV)

205 Egypt safari?  There's tigers in Egypt?

Posted by: Count de Monet at December 21, 2013 04:32 PM (BAS5M)

206

I have Madison moonbat in-laws. They haven't invited me to anything since we practically got into a knock-down drag out fight over Walker during the run-up to the recall. We were screaming at each other - or rather they were screaming at me.

 

Man, I'm just so torn up about the way they now ignore me. *Grins*

Posted by: Donna V. at December 21, 2013 04:33 PM (R3gO3)

207 habanero sugar

Now you can make ice tea that feels like drinking ice cold lava.

Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at December 21, 2013 04:33 PM (kxSZr)

208 So, you are not responsible for your repentance, but you are responsible for your sins? You are responsible for your repentance, just incapable of it without divine intervention. Which is also the answer to this: The only thing rock-ribbed Calvinists need to explain is why G*d creates people just to send them to hell. Then there's this from Luke (chapter 11) 11What father among you would hand his son a snake when he asks for a fish? 12 Or hand him a scorpion when he asks for an egg? 13 If you then, who are wicked, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will the Father in heaven give the holy Spirit to those who ask him? The only people who are going to ask Him are those whom he has already chosen.

Posted by: Grey Fox at December 21, 2013 04:34 PM (e9iRQ)

209 What about blue salt?

Posted by: walter white at December 21, 2013 04:34 PM (URtb8)

210 One thing the Coens do very well is to show how criminals have poor impulse control and can lash out violently without warning. I've seen that depicted in several of their movies.

Posted by: rickl at December 21, 2013 04:34 PM (sdi6R)

211 This swizzle sticks gets scraped under the toilet bowl of every gas station on the way to the gathering. Cabo Wabo! Posted by: Justamom at December 21, 2013 08:31 PM (Sptt That sounds harsh! CouldnÂ’t you just use one toilet?

Posted by: Carol at December 21, 2013 04:35 PM (z4WKX)

212 205
Jane-
I've got a greedy, worldly stepmonster I could tell you all about, but I'll just tell you about the special cocktails I'm making for Christmas Eve.
Actually, any cocktail will do. The special ingredient is a swizzle stick that you stir only the special persons drink with.
This swizzle sticks gets scraped under the toilet bowl of every gas station on the way to the gathering.
Cabo Wabo!

Posted by: Justamom at December 21, 2013 08:31 PM (Sptt




I bow to you.  I feel unworthy.  How I wish I was hosting, which I've offered numerous times, but the ATL and NYC jackasses don't "want to travel on Christmas Day" and so we do.



And GOOD NEWS!  The oldest Obamabot b-i-l is getting married!  For the fourth time.



Here's a clue:  Your three previous wives couldn't stand your shit.  Hope your latest victim finds out.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 21, 2013 04:35 PM (lVPtV)

213 The closest thing I have to a liberal relative is a nephew who recycles.

Posted by: grammie winger at December 21, 2013 04:35 PM (P6QsQ)

214 Wait, Jane, are you flying? Airport toilets are even better!

Posted by: Justamom at December 21, 2013 04:37 PM (Sptt8)

215 I bow to you. I feel unworthy. How I wish I was hosting, which I've offered numerous times, but the ATL and NYC jackasses don't "want to travel on Christmas Day" and so we do. **** the best thing about attending a function at someone else's house is that you can leave when you're ready. When at your house, you are trapped until they leave.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 21, 2013 04:37 PM (DmNpO)

216 Couldn't I just add rusty water to some Morton's and bake it out?

Posted by: Boss Moss at December 21, 2013 04:37 PM (ShvtX)

217 And GOOD NEWS! The oldest Obamabot b-i-l is getting married! For the fourth time. Here's a clue: Your three previous wives couldn't stand your shit. Hope your latest victim finds out. I have an uncle like that. His fourth (I think) wife was a Muslim, though - upon their divorce she grabbed their daughter and ran to Egypt. I am not sure he the real victim there.

Posted by: Grey Fox at December 21, 2013 04:37 PM (e9iRQ)

218 Folk singers are not really Pajamaboy types. At least they didn't used to be. Pajamaboy doesn't leave the comforts of home ---mommy and daddy's home. He doesn't even know what life is like without AC, internet, and appletinis. Folkster hitched to the city from somewhere else and lives in a 5th floor walk-up and is always short of cash. What cash he does get is spent on booze and music, so he doesn't eat well. He considers things like AC and decent meals to be pathetically bourgeois ---which is why he doesn't work for them and why he needs a girlfriend with a J.O.B. That way he can hang out in HER cool apartment in the summer, snarfing ice cream and spaghetti, while writing songs decrying middle-class decadence.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at December 21, 2013 04:38 PM (dfYL9)

219 A tiger? In Africa???

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at December 21, 2013 04:38 PM (URtb8)

220 I'm confused. Who lives in the two trailers ?

Posted by: bubba at December 21, 2013 04:39 PM (BfE/P)

221 I swore off Coen brothers after A Serious Man. In my top ten worst movies ever, jam-packed with irredeemably loathsome characters and not a moment worth rooting for. I was rabidly anti-Semitic for weeks until the memoryof the movie wore off. Simon ("Wolowitz") Helberg had a moderately funny bit as a "hip" young rabbi. As a folkie, I'm obliged to see this, but I'm doing it under protest. The soundtrack performances are good, but I'm told they're studio, NOT the on-screen takes.

Posted by: Little Miss Spellcheck at December 21, 2013 04:39 PM (a5ljo)

222 Come to think of it, "showcase cake" sounds like a sweet, backhanded, bless-your-heart insult. Like some Old Order Mennonite wives, who can make a story-high cloud of angel food our of what's in the flour bin, checking out some city-gal's "look at me" overdecorated concoction, and oohing and ahing just to be nice, while saying to each other "Well THAT looked like it came right ouf of the showcase." "Oh, yes. Yes indeed." "Mmm-hmm. Store.Boughten." "Poor dear."  

Posted by: Stringer Davis at December 21, 2013 04:40 PM (xq1UY)

223 Posted by: NiedermeyerÂ’s Dead Horse at December 21, 2013 08:29 PM (DmNpO) NDH, Alison Janney is on a series on one network. My older brother told me about it. I put it on demand, she looks much better in that than in Masters of Sex. Other older woman in that show were pretty. I only watched for a few minutes, I didnÂ’t watch entire episode. ItÂ’s about a blond woman, who is a recovering addict or alcoholic & Janney used to live it up too. It might be Mom or something like that.

Posted by: Carol at December 21, 2013 04:41 PM (z4WKX)

224 I'm confused. Who lives in the two trailers ?

Posted by: bubba at December 21, 2013 08:39 PM (BfE/P)


Yeah, when this post came up, I was all excited, thought I might see some sweet vintage airstreams or something.  But, hey, this is a movie-centric crowd and I love them none the less for it. 


So, open thread at this point, kids?

Posted by: Peaches at December 21, 2013 04:41 PM (8lmkt)

225 221 andycanuck Is this the golf thread ? What course did he play and where ?

Posted by: bubba at December 21, 2013 04:42 PM (BfE/P)

226 186 ---"....her husband just came home from several weeks at a psych hospital for depression. " Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 21, 2013 08:25 PM (lVPtV) -------------------- Gee. Why does that not surprise me?

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at December 21, 2013 04:42 PM (dfYL9)

227 216
Wait, Jane, are you flying?
Airport toilets are even better!

Posted by: Justamom at December 21, 2013 08:37 PM (Sptt




Nope, they're in ATL, we're in Savannah.  I realized today that since we left ATL for Chicagoland, and now Savannah, we've traveled every Christmas for 18 years. 



The last few years before my sweet mother died, we had Christmas day here, and our son's friends dropped in and it was relaxed and fun and we played games and listened to Christmas music.  After Mother died, it was off to the pretentious ATL day.  I've been heartsick and angry ever since.  And you guys have no idea the half of it.  Gah.  Shoot me in the face.  Now.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 21, 2013 04:43 PM (lVPtV)

228 Maybe with a Kenyan Ashanti chief, bubba?

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at December 21, 2013 04:43 PM (URtb8)

229 Inside Llewyn Davis is very much worth seeing.  The music makes it good, but mostly the recreation of the early 1960's (and elsewhere) does too.

Posted by: @ParisParamus at December 21, 2013 04:44 PM (M9jNe)

230 Posted by: Boss Moss at December 21, 2013 08:27 PM (ShvtX) Lol.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at December 21, 2013 04:44 PM (GDulk)

231 I have an uncle like that. His fourth (I think) wife was a Muslim, though - upon their divorce she grabbed their daughter and ran to Egypt. I am not sure he the real victim there. Posted by: Grey Fox at December 21, 2013 08:37 PM (e9iRQ) Grey Fox, I remember you posting that some time ago. I think it had to be you, it was someone here. Did he ever get to see his daughter?

Posted by: Carol at December 21, 2013 04:44 PM (z4WKX)

232 "I hate that scrawny, angry-faced "Life Coach" with the heat of a billion suns."

 
Jane: And I'm sorry you're such a sorry excuse for a human being, you absolute horror of a person.  Also, your husband is a jammie wearing, momma's boy, douchebag with a small dick.

 
SIL: Well, that escalated quickly.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 21, 2013 04:46 PM (o9Rp5)

233 Looking at Wikipedia, there are a number of Coen Brothers movies I haven't seen. Like I said, I haven't been going to movies in theaters in recent years. I sort of got out of the habit. The ones I have seen were Blood Simple, Raising Arizona, Barton Fink, The Hudsucker Proxy, Fargo, The Big Lebowski, and O Brother, Where Art Thou?, all of which I loved.

Posted by: rickl at December 21, 2013 04:46 PM (sdi6R)

234 The only thing rock-ribbed Calvinists need to explain is why G*d creates people just to send them to hell. Then there's this from Luke (chapter 11) 11What father among you would hand his son a snake when he asks for a fish? 12 Or hand him a scorpion when he asks for an egg? 13 If you then, who are wicked, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will the Father in heaven give the holy Spirit to those who ask him? The only people who are going to ask Him are those whom he has already chosen. Posted by: Grey Fox at December 21, 2013 08:34 PM (e9iRQ) Predestination. Your asking is just a formality.

Posted by: eman at December 21, 2013 04:47 PM (EWsrI)

235 Red Dead Redemption is really good.

Posted by: Boss Moss at December 21, 2013 04:48 PM (ShvtX)

236 Our family is looking forward to seeing "Lone Survivor" after Christmas.

One of the Night Stalkers who was killed during the attempted helicopter rescue, has his wedding picture shown at the end.  He lived, and was married, here.  We are home to a large number of Night Stalkers.

From what I've heard from a preview shown here to the Stalkers, there was complete silence in the theatre at the end.  Several of the guys didn't want to watch the film.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 21, 2013 04:49 PM (lVPtV)

237 53 True Grit might be in the top 5 of the Cohen brothers films, but it certainly isn't their best.

Oh Brother Where Art Thou is probably their best followed by The Big Lebowski.

*******************************

^^this, but don't forget Raising Arizona. A classic.



The original True Grit is a much better movie, but Coens is OK.



I have to disagree on Matt Damon in Saving Private Ryan. He could have been one of my soldiers. He (and Ted Danson, too, surprisingly) were spot on. Most of Tom Hanks' squad were caricatures, but Hanks was perfect. Should have got the third Oscar. The Omaha Beach landing bothered me for days, but the best scene was when he reported to the battalion CP to get his orders after losing most of his company -- he glanced around at one REMF shaving, another one making coffee, and I knew from his face exactly what was going through his head. Great technical advisors.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at December 21, 2013 04:50 PM (QVC7W)

238 I do not like O' Brother Where Art Thou It's over-acted crap.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 21, 2013 04:50 PM (DmNpO)

239 Although the music is fantastic.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 21, 2013 04:51 PM (DmNpO)

240 S'cusa may. Senor Fawlty, I haffa hafa dossen pairs of payamas with the ...how you say in Ingles ? footsies they are muy feo.... rojo y negrito, with the crissa -crosses for a guest nam-ed Pre-ONT. Hoo will assign for dem ?

Posted by: manuel at December 21, 2013 04:52 PM (BfE/P)

241 240 I do not like O' Brother Where Art Thou It's over-acted crap. Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 21, 2013 08:50 PM (DmNpO) Yeah, loaded with insisting on itself.

Posted by: eman at December 21, 2013 04:52 PM (EWsrI)

242 I have to disagree on Matt Damon in Saving Private Ryan. He could have been one of my soldiers. He (and Ted Danson, too, surprisingly) were spot on. Most of Tom Hanks' squad were caricatures, but Hanks was perfect. Should have got the third Oscar. The Omaha Beach landing bothered me for days, but the best scene was when he reported to the battalion CP to get his orders after losing most of his company -- he glanced around at one REMF shaving, another one making coffee, and I knew from his face exactly what was going through his head. Great technical advisors.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at December 21, 2013 08:50 PM (QVC7W)




Thank you for that.  And thank you for your service.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 21, 2013 04:53 PM (lVPtV)

243 The young lady, Claire Davis, shot in the face last week at Arapahoe High School has passed away. Lots and lots of prayers.

Posted by: westminsterdogshow at December 21, 2013 04:56 PM (dKrTw)

244 I imagine the acting styles of "O Brother" parodies the acting styes of "Sullivan's Travels," from which its title is taken. There used to be a lot of over-acting, before we invented under-acting.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at December 21, 2013 04:56 PM (xq1UY)

245 245 The young lady, Claire Davis, shot in the face last week at Arapahoe High School has passed away.

Lots and lots of prayers.

Posted by: westminsterdogshow at December 21, 2013 08:56 PM (dKrTw)




I know.  She's at peace and celebrating in Heaven.  God comfort her devastated family.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 21, 2013 04:57 PM (lVPtV)

246 What is a "life coach?" It sounds like something made up & not a real job.

Posted by: Carol at December 21, 2013 04:59 PM (z4WKX)

247 A tiger?  In Africa?

 
Must've escaped from a zoo.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 21, 2013 05:00 PM (o9Rp5)

248 Grey Fox, I remember you posting that some time ago. I think it had to be you, it was someone here. Did he ever get to see his daughter? I don't think so. She is still in Egypt, as far as I know. Maybe with Morsi gone things will settle down enough to get her back.

Posted by: Grey Fox at December 21, 2013 05:01 PM (e9iRQ)

249 248 What is a "life coach?"
It sounds like something made up & not a real job.

Posted by: Carol at December 21, 2013 08:59 PM (z4WKX)




She has a B.A. from a small southern college.  Late in life, she decided to take a weekend long class in "coaching" and actually has made a huge living off of idiots...and our government.  She was actually hired over the years to "coach" the government employees I won't mention here.  Well, the CDC. 



Fools and their money are soon parted. 

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 21, 2013 05:02 PM (lVPtV)

250 Life coach= bossy con artist

Posted by: Justamom at December 21, 2013 05:03 PM (Sptt8)

251 I saw their first movie, Blood Simple, on TV long ago, back when I still had cable. I wasn't paying a lot of attention to it, but there was one scene that really stuck in my memory. One guy kills another guy, then tries to clean up the crime scene. His panic is palpable, as his efforts keep making it worse and worse (for example, trying to flush blood-stained clothes down the toilet, which promptly overflows). I was simultaneously cringing and laughing hysterically. I want to see that movie again.

Posted by: rickl at December 21, 2013 05:03 PM (sdi6R)

252 I posted that 17 year old died from last Friday's Colorado shooting earlier in this thread. I'm using iPad & Fox News app opened & said that. There was supposed to be a healing vigil for her tonight. I feel horribly for parents.

Posted by: Carol at December 21, 2013 05:04 PM (z4WKX)

253 nood

Posted by: Peaches at December 21, 2013 05:05 PM (8lmkt)

254 I would guess a " life coach" would be some smug, arrogant, person who has a lot of money that they didn't earn, telling you how you should lead your life, because they don't have one. Not to be confused with politicians.

Posted by: seamrog at December 21, 2013 05:05 PM (BfE/P)

255 I posted that 17 year old died from last Friday's Colorado shooting earlier in this thread. ... I feel horribly for parents. Posted by: Carol at December 21, 2013 And the boy did it because he wanted to prove how bad guns were.

Posted by: Dept. Of Acuracy at December 21, 2013 05:06 PM (MhA4j)

256 Reminds me of my worthless neighbor whose personal assistant left me a message to find out how much subdivision dues were. Had my BIL call in an English accent (fake) and state he was my personal assistant leaving a message for her personal assistant. Jane, if she asks you for anything, tell her you'll have your personal assistant get back to her.

Posted by: Justamom at December 21, 2013 05:07 PM (Sptt8)

257 256 I would guess a " life coach" would be some smug, arrogant, person who has a lot of money that they didn't earn, telling you how you should lead your life, because they don't have one.



Yes.  However, when you're an unattractive little thing and you meet and unattractive rich man, and get him to marry you, you can pretty much tell your relatives and everyone else what to do.



How I wish my husband would wake the fuck up.  I've had enough.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 21, 2013 05:10 PM (lVPtV)

258 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inside_Llewyn_Davis "The film focuses on one week in the life of a talented but struggling folk singer from Greenwich Village in 1961. Joel Coen has joked that the film does not really have a plot, however: 'That concerned us at one point; that's why we threw the cat in,' referring to a cat named Ulysses that is present throughout the film." So, yeah, skipping it.

Posted by: ewb at December 21, 2013 05:10 PM (r0iue)

259 nood up, and I'm gonna get my jammies on

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 21, 2013 05:11 PM (lVPtV)

260 Carol..... Sorry I had not seen that you did.

Posted by: westminsterdogshow at December 21, 2013 05:11 PM (dKrTw)

261

Yes - the Coen Brothers have had a couple stinkers. But as a fanboy I'd pay to watch them paint a house. And will pay to watch this movie in a theater.

 

I...I...trust them. Ya' dig?  

Posted by: JDW at December 21, 2013 05:11 PM (dmhUI)

262 "That was my attitude going in, but the movie changed my mind completely. IMO, it was very, very good."

No. There was the usual Coen Bros. random weird shit, like the trapper in the bear suit, that made no sense.

And their best movie was "Fargo". I took my kids to see that one, because it was a parable, a very powerful one, on the subject of moral weakness, and the catastrophes it inflicts on the people around it.

By the way, predestination is the doctrine of Hell. The idea that somehow our moral choices don't matter, that one's destiny is written on one's forehead (as the Muslims put it), is what Satan preaches.

Posted by: Brown Line at December 21, 2013 05:11 PM (a5bF3)

263 Talk about racism, insensitivity, and offensiveness. How can you call a team the "Ragin' Cajuns?" The horror!

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at December 21, 2013 05:12 PM (dfYL9)

264 Loved Fargo, and this True Grit wasn't bad at all. What I didn't get was Raising AZ, just thought that was stupid. To each his own.

Posted by: The Farmer at December 21, 2013 05:14 PM (eBupg)

265 I'm a longtime Bob Dylan fan, and the plot concerning an aspiring folk singer from the Midwest who arrives in Greenwich Village in 1961 definitely piques my interest. I've heard that the music in the movie is pretty good, and the song on the trailer is a passable imitation of Uncle Bob. It's got a cat, too? I'm there, man.

Posted by: rickl at December 21, 2013 05:15 PM (sdi6R)

266 Jane, The government employees needed coaches? IRS employees need help. I heard something disturbing, more than usual about IRS today on one of the FNC Saturday morning shows that Cavuto usually hosts. I was half asleep, I went to take a nap. Government hires idiots? What a surprise.

Posted by: Carol at December 21, 2013 05:15 PM (z4WKX)

267 "You said it man. Nobody fucks with the Jesus" http://tinyurl.com/3w788mj

Posted by: JDW at December 21, 2013 05:17 PM (dmhUI)

268 Sorry I had not seen that you did. Posted by: westminsterdogshow at December 21, 2013 09:11 PM (dKrTw) It doesnÂ’t matter, there are so many comments sometimes that some go unnoticed. Thanks.

Posted by: Carol at December 21, 2013 05:17 PM (z4WKX)

269 I don't think you can "grow up to be a Calvinist." You were destined to it before you were born. As a child, you're a Calvinist who may or may not yet understand what you are and always have been. Kind of like a superpowered mutant.

Posted by: Little Miss Spellcheck at December 21, 2013 05:22 PM (a5ljo)

270 What kind of imbecile takes advice from a person who wasn't able to do anything more useful with their life than "life coach"?

Posted by: Little Miss Spellcheck at December 21, 2013 05:26 PM (a5ljo)

271 I can't believe with all the Calvinist talk, no one's brought up the old phrase "damned if you do, damned if you don't." There was a general souring of religion in the US in the late 1700s as mainstream religion turned more Calvinist. Lasted until the Second Great Awakening. That was a popular phrase to reject Calvinism - and, unfortunately, God.

Posted by: sunny-dee at December 21, 2013 05:27 PM (4Vr+0)

272 Then I think there will be similarity of "Inside Llewyn Davis" to the angry blacomedy "Bob Roberts," which starred that nasty Tim Robbins, whose dad Gil Robbins (born Ruben, who'd have thought? I had to look that up) was an actual honest-to-god Greenwich Village folksinger (after he'd been a UCLA drum major and a USAF bandsman). Gil Robbins helped with the music in "Bob Roberts," which gave an eerie believability to an otherwise obnoxious assault on right-thinking, It posits a Dylanesque singer/social leader who's selling fascism.  

Posted by: Stringer Davis at December 21, 2013 05:28 PM (xq1UY)

273 There isn't a Coen Brothers film that isn't worth watching at least twice. Fargo and Lebowski are tops, followed by Barton Fink, The Man Who Wasn't There, and Miller's Crossing. Can't wait to see the new one.

Posted by: JoeyBagels at December 21, 2013 05:49 PM (Usdw3)

274 I have been called, this year, a five-point Calvinist among other things. Thank you for the True Grit trailer and quote!

Posted by: ChristyBlinky is a genius compared to preznit at December 21, 2013 05:51 PM (baL2B)

275 I thought Raising Arizona was hilarious. One of their movies that I think is underrated is The Hudsucker Proxy. It's about a big corporation in the 1950s. Those of a certain age, or who have actually worked for big corporations will probably best appreciate it.

Posted by: rickl at December 21, 2013 05:52 PM (sdi6R)

276 My favorite scene in The Hudsucker Proxy was the room where workers were toiling away on mechanical adding machines. They resembled galley slaves, and one shot showed them stretching off into infinity. Like I said, you have to be of a certain age to fully appreciate it.

Posted by: rickl at December 21, 2013 06:00 PM (sdi6R)

277 Well, Presbyterianism might not come up here again for awhile, so I'd better take this opportunity to announce that my church finally voted to no longer be affiliated with the PCUSA, the weirdos that you always hear about condemning Israel and stuff. So that's nice.

Posted by: Dave M at December 21, 2013 06:29 PM (dbm77)

278 Its possible that this latest Coen film is like Barton Fink, which was terrific but very weird and dark. Fink was a chump loser idiot, but in an entertaining way.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 21, 2013 06:30 PM (zfY+H)

279 267 the song on the trailer is a passable imitation of Uncle Bob. Posted by: rickl at December 21, 2013 09:15 PM (sdi6R) Upon further investigation, that actually is Bob. Color me embarrassed.

Posted by: rickl at December 21, 2013 06:58 PM (sdi6R)

280 I'm a big John Wane fan, but the Coen bros. version is about a bajillion times better.  Mostly due to it's extreme lack of Glen Campbell, but also because it actually develops the tough character of Mattie Ross like the book does.  The '69 version dresses her out like some whiny assed tag along.  The book is one of those very well written potato-chip novels that you just can't put down, even if you've seen one or both films.  In it, Rooster is much more entertaining than either Wayne or whats-his-name could manage.  Best line: "I do not know this man."

Posted by: Oleander Salad at December 21, 2013 07:31 PM (/KeTB)

281 i liked both Grits. Matt Damon and the young girl were much better than Glen Campbell and whats her name.the cinematography was exquisite in the new one, but Jeff Bridges however good is no Wayne. Also some of the minor roles just imitated the original i.e. the guy who did a Struther Martin imitation. So while unlike other remakes it didn't devolve into pc crap , I left the theatre enjoying it but wondered what was the point of remaking it.

Posted by: Avi at December 21, 2013 07:51 PM (kcF49)

282 go over to Maverick Philosopher for a dirrerent perspective.

Posted by: Brad at December 21, 2013 09:14 PM (afGMX)

283 True Grit is the best Cohen Bros movie ever...?  Really...?

Better than:

Big Lebowski
Fargo
Raising Arizona

?

Posted by: bigjack at December 21, 2013 10:50 PM (Mh4UI)

284 Mattie is untempered "Justice" in seeking an "eye for an eye", Rooster is Mercy as he becomes Maddie's protector on her journey of retribution, I understand Maddie but admire Rooster. Maddie get's bit by the "Serpent" and Rooster saves his soul. Dig a little deeper Calvinists.

Posted by: John Bissell at December 22, 2013 02:27 AM (oyzFg)

285 Matti Ross grew up and became Ann Barnhardt, just sayin'. The trailer worked for me - I want to see if bad things happen to the hipster douche.

Posted by: Asswipee at December 22, 2013 02:46 AM (eS0nh)

286 So open blogger gets her jollys on movies about gun totten, bible thumpin, bitter clingers, but not about wandering, introspective, non materialistic, Occupoopers?
Not govt approved, by Allah!

Posted by: McStain at December 22, 2013 03:58 AM (mmILJ)

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