February 16, 2013
— Open Blogger Got some rusty stuff you need to get cleaned up and put back into service? You've probably tried naval jelly, wire brushes, etc. They all require work, or are kinda toxic/caustic.
There is another way -- Evapo-Rust made by Daubert Cromwell.
This stuff flat out works. The claims made for it are accurate. It is non-toxic. I've dumped the spent stuff out on some Aloe plants and it didn't bother them one bit.
Eco-Friendly
Wallet Friendly
How does it work -- freaking SCIENCE baby. It uses chemical chelation. If you watched a few episodes of House, you probably remember that term being tossed around as a treatment for various metal poisonings -- same idea here. Evapo-Rust hooks onto the bad shit and floats it away.
Obviously, Evapo-Rust is a very economic collapse friendly product. Getting spares for rusted shit isn't gonna be easy when we go all Mad Max and people are gonna have to make due with what they got or can scrounge up. Laying in a few gallons of this stuff may be as valuable as stocking up on guns, ammo, surgical supplies, and duct tape.
The only place I've found locally that has it is Harbor Freight.
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Posted by: RondinellaMamma at February 16, 2013 11:08 AM (53riN)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 16, 2013 11:09 AM (XkWWK)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Take us away. at February 16, 2013 11:11 AM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 16, 2013 11:12 AM (piMMO)
Posted by: Mrs Compton at February 16, 2013 11:12 AM (dX4hn)
Posted by: zsasz at February 16, 2013 11:12 AM (MMC8r)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 16, 2013 11:13 AM (GEICT)
Posted by: @PurpAv at February 16, 2013 11:13 AM (1rU+d)
Posted by: CitizenEgg at February 16, 2013 11:15 AM (RB0el)
Posted by: The Political Hat at February 16, 2013 11:15 AM (Vk2pI)
That's probably not rust-rust. I'd give some plain $3/gal white vinegar a try on that.
Posted by: @PurpAv at February 16, 2013 11:15 AM (1rU+d)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 16, 2013 11:15 AM (piMMO)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 16, 2013 11:17 AM (piMMO)
Posted by: Lightening McQueen at February 16, 2013 11:17 AM (oFvKj)
Posted by: @PurpAv at February 16, 2013 11:17 AM (1rU+d)
Then you're gonna need to pick up a cheap welder at Harbor Freight while you're buying this stuff ;->
Posted by: @PurpAv at February 16, 2013 11:18 AM (1rU+d)
Posted by: JDTAY at February 16, 2013 11:18 AM (a0nis)
Posted by: OhioCoastie at February 16, 2013 11:19 AM (pKCuj)
Oh do tell. I enjoy it when my life choices are reaffirmed.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Take us away. at February 16, 2013 11:20 AM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 16, 2013 11:22 AM (GEICT)
Posted by: shredded chi at February 16, 2013 11:23 AM (FOg+7)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 16, 2013 11:24 AM (GEICT)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 16, 2013 11:25 AM (XkWWK)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 16, 2013 03:24 PM (GEICT)
I deeply, deeply approve of Her Drunken Midgetness. You did get her something extra sparkly as a reward, yes?
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Take us away. at February 16, 2013 11:26 AM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 16, 2013 11:26 AM (XkWWK)
Posted by: nip at February 16, 2013 11:27 AM (11Tdq)
I wished I'd know about that stuff when I was running machine shops.
Another good product that I've used for years is Shaklee's Basic H. It's a surfactant that leaves no residue. It's kinda pricey, but I bought a gallon back in '06 and still have about 2/3 of it left. Great for cleaning potable water containers and the like.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at February 16, 2013 11:28 AM (+z4pE)
Posted by: eureka! at February 16, 2013 11:28 AM (HPRku)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 16, 2013 11:29 AM (piMMO)
Former Florida Governor Jeb Bush said he would strive to be like Lyndon Johnson, the Democrat famous for expanding the U.S. welfare state through the "Great Society," if he were elected president.Yep, quite a two-part system you got there. Shame if anythin' were to happen to it.
Troyriser unavailable for comment.
Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at February 16, 2013 11:30 AM (MmH0Z)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 16, 2013 11:31 AM (piMMO)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on KINDLE finally at February 16, 2013 11:31 AM (l86i3)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 16, 2013 11:32 AM (GEICT)
Posted by: nip at February 16, 2013 11:34 AM (11Tdq)
As a Floridian who is not a fan of Jeb, I rest my case.
Same here. And he has a son with political aspirations, too.
Do.Not.Want.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at February 16, 2013 11:34 AM (+z4pE)
AtC,
If I'm remembering correctly you enjoy yourself a little ladies curling.
Scotties Tournament of Hearts currently on TSN if you have access (not sure if it's streaming anywhere). New Brunswick is extremely...ah, talented.
Posted by: Lurking Canuck at February 16, 2013 11:35 AM (0WLla)
Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at February 16, 2013 11:35 AM (MmH0Z)
Posted by: Dickie Dukakis at February 16, 2013 11:35 AM (C2jTf)
To misquote Patton:
OSP, you magnificent bastard, *I read your book*!
Review posted.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at February 16, 2013 11:35 AM (xKC/c)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on KINDLE finally at February 16, 2013 11:35 AM (l86i3)
Posted by: Miss Marple at February 16, 2013 11:35 AM (GoIUi)
Posted by: CitizenEgg at February 16, 2013 03:15 PM (RB0el)
Well, it is "Eco Friendly".
Posted by: Billy Bob, The guy who drinks in SC at February 16, 2013 11:36 AM (wR+pz)
AtC,
If I'm remembering correctly you enjoy yourself a little ladies curling.
Scotties Tournament of Hearts currently on TSN if you have access (not sure if it's streaming anywhere). New Brunswick is extremely...ah, talented.
Posted by: Lurking Canuck at February 16, 2013 03:35 PM (0WLla)
US Men's Championship will be on the NBC Sports Network at 4 p.m. eastern.
I'm trying to figure out if TSN will have matches available online after they're over, or if they're going to restrict it to Canadians only. If it's the latter, I'll be in despair.
Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am (Hard! Hurry hard!) at February 16, 2013 11:37 AM (X11b6)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 16, 2013 11:37 AM (XkWWK)
Thanks for the info, PurpAV.
Looks like a lifesaver.
I'll look for it here locally....Tractor Supply might have it, if Lowes or HomeDepot don't.
Posted by: wheatie at February 16, 2013 11:38 AM (DZbQ0)
If I'm remembering correctly you enjoy yourself a little ladies curling.
Scotties Tournament of Hearts currently on TSN if you have access (not sure if it's streaming anywhere). New Brunswick is extremely...ah, talented. Posted by: Lurking Canuck at February 16, 2013 03:35 PM (0WLla)
I don't get TSN but the US curling championship men's finals is going to be on NBC Sports at 4.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Take us away. at February 16, 2013 11:38 AM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on KINDLE finally at February 16, 2013 11:38 AM (l86i3)
Posted by: and irresolute at February 16, 2013 11:38 AM (DBH1h)
8 since everyone is here now, repost from last thread:
61 Any San Fran, North or East Bay morons here?
My daughter was outside smoking and she let out a big yelp. She swears she saw a fireball streaking towards the west (Pacific). Yes she is sober and no, she is not prone to hysterics Posted by: Ma Bell at February 15, 2013 10:58 PM
Another Meteor Flashes Across Bay Area Skies
http://tinyurl.com/co7zuhf
SAN FRANCISCO (CBS SF) — On the heels of a close fly-by of an asteroid 17,000 miles from Earth on Friday morning and a devastating meteor that landed in Russia, Bay Area stargazers caught a glimpse of another meteor Friday night.
Posted by: kbdabear at February 16, 2013 11:38 AM (mCvL4)
Jeb Bush? Last name might be a deal breaker with a lotta people in this country at this time.
Policies? Comparing yourself to LBJ might not be the smoothest move he could talk about to endear himself to a good part of the Party. But, you know, it's just crazy enough to screw up the primaries again in 2016.
Face it, even though the economy is staggering now and will very possibly be worse in 2016, the taint that the MSM splashes on the Republicans will still be sufficient for Hillary, Rahm or Biden to get elected.
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes..... at February 16, 2013 11:39 AM (Md8Uo)
Fuck the RINO Jeb Bush with a rusty piece of pipe.
Plus I hear he's an asshole, W got the personality.
Posted by: USS Diversity at February 16, 2013 11:40 AM (QLJPW)
47...CAUTION: Collectors know this, but NEVER touch old collectible toys/trains etc. If you do, you destroy their value.
Leave it alone.
Yep, absolutely. Don't mess with the patina.
Posted by: wheatie at February 16, 2013 11:40 AM (DZbQ0)
Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at February 16, 2013 11:40 AM (MmH0Z)
Posted by: Ronster at February 16, 2013 11:40 AM (JgkPs)
Thank you, for a dumbass Millwright/Pipefitter I guess I can spin a yarn. I'm shocked you people like it. I was so afraid to look stupid in fromt of the rons. Then I thought, fuck it, it'll give them something innocent to tease me about. But thank you, thank you very much.
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on KINDLE finally at February 16, 2013 03:38 PM (l86i3)
--------
You should do a post on how to write for kindle.
Posted by: USS Diversity at February 16, 2013 11:41 AM (QLJPW)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on KINDLE finally at February 16, 2013 11:41 AM (l86i3)
I'm trying to figure out if TSN will have matches available online after they're over, or if they're going to restrict it to Canadians only. If it's the latter, I'll be in despair.
Don't see anything available on the website yet unfortunately.
Posted by: Lurking Canuck at February 16, 2013 11:41 AM (0WLla)
Posted by: Lurking Canuck at February 16, 2013 03:35 PM (0WLla)
And by 'talented' can I assume there's some nice booty? They do that whole glide thing....
Off to the bunk...
Posted by: Portnoy at February 16, 2013 11:41 AM (A5Abh)
58 48 wheatie. I read on an Amazon review that someone bought it at Auto Zone.
Thanks, Ronster...that makes sense.
Posted by: wheatie at February 16, 2013 11:42 AM (DZbQ0)
You're welcome.
Now where's the next book you slacker? I want to know how she takes care of those guys who made the DVDs.
Off to go find a couple of 7400 ICs.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at February 16, 2013 11:43 AM (xKC/c)
Posted by: teej at February 16, 2013 11:43 AM (ZBXhE)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on KINDLE finally at February 16, 2013 11:43 AM (l86i3)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on KINDLE finally at February 16, 2013 11:44 AM (l86i3)
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes..... at February 16, 2013 11:44 AM (Md8Uo)
And if he is, well...
Those guys were fags...
Posted by: Hoss Cartwright at February 16, 2013 11:46 AM (A5Abh)
See thats the thing, I don't know how to write. I just typed chapter one and told a story I want to read with the experiances that I have had. Please believe me, I aint that bright.
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on KINDLE finally at February 16, 2013 03:43 PM (l86i3)
=========
Well at least how to go about getting it on kindle. Tips, etc.
Posted by: USS Diversity at February 16, 2013 11:47 AM (QLJPW)
Posted by: teej at February 16, 2013 11:47 AM (HT2Nt)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD.
The advantages of enjoying the assets of both teams!
And by 'talented' can I assume there's some nice booty? They do that whole glide thing....Off to the bunk...
Posted by: Portnoy
Dude, for realz. Their online pic doesn't do them justice.
As I mentioned in the last thread, there's something about those tight black pants and screaming about how hard they want it.
I will not be changing the channel.
Posted by: Lurking Canuck at February 16, 2013 11:47 AM (0WLla)
- penicillin
- condoms
- parachutes
- submarine hatches
Posted by: guy smiley at February 16, 2013 11:48 AM (64a7R)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 16, 2013 11:49 AM (piMMO)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 16, 2013 11:50 AM (GEICT)
Posted by: Lurking Canuck at February 16, 2013 03:47 PM (0WLla)
If the wife and SIL weren't monopolizing the TV right now, I'd be checking it out.
Alas.
Posted by: Portnoy at February 16, 2013 11:50 AM (A5Abh)
And if he is, well... Posted by: teej at February 16, 2013 03:43 PM
Linda Evans was the main reason to watch The Big Valley
Posted by: kbdabear at February 16, 2013 11:51 AM (mCvL4)
And remember, all chaps are "assless chaps", when that's all you're wearing.
Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 16, 2013 11:51 AM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: Portnoy at February 16, 2013 11:52 AM (A5Abh)
And if he is, well...
Posted by: teej at February 16, 2013 03:43 PM (ZBXhE)
Lol....yep, that's him.
Posted by: Tami[/i] at February 16, 2013 11:53 AM (X6akg)
Alas.
Posted by: Portnoy
Fortunately, it's only Draw #1. Another week or so of good bunk material.
Posted by: Lurking Canuck at February 16, 2013 11:53 AM (0WLla)
LMOD = Little Meteors Of Doom?
Posted by: kbdabear at February 16, 2013 11:54 AM (mCvL4)
What's not to like...If they somehow worked in making sammiches..
BooYah!!
Posted by: Portnoy at February 16, 2013 11:56 AM (A5Abh)
I want to know for my OWN stuff, as I have pieces which in humid Indiana will continue to deteriorate unless I can remove the rust.
So the question remains. Will it also remove paint?
Posted by: Miss Marple at February 16, 2013 11:56 AM (GoIUi)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 16, 2013 11:57 AM (piMMO)
LMOD = Little Meteors Of Doom?
Or in NASA speak, "NEODS"
Near Earth Objects (of) Death.
Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 16, 2013 11:57 AM (4Mv1T)
If Evapo-Rust works so well, then what am I to do with all of this jelly from my navel?
Posted by: Sandra Fluke's solid gold diaphragm at February 16, 2013 11:59 AM (7xeJQ)
The part needs to soak in it for a day or two, so it needs to be of dunkable size. For a car, you're probably better off sand blasting.
Posted by: @PurpAv at February 16, 2013 12:03 PM (1rU+d)
Posted by: nraendowment at February 16, 2013 12:10 PM (Msv+6)
Simple, cheap way to remove rust: buy Barkeeper's Friend. It's about $3 a container. Prepare a paste of it, put it on the rusted object, place object in the sun.
Barkeeper's Friend is essentially pure sodium oxalate, and it too chelates Fe(III) to produce the tris chelate [Fe(ox)3)3-, which in turn decomposes photochemically in sunlight to produce Fe(II) and CO2 (the ferrioxalate actinometer, used to measure integrated light intensities in photochemistry).
(Btw, as indicated on the package, sodium oxalate is toxic, but not to worry. It's the sodium salt of oxalic acid, which is found most prominently in ... spinach. Just as you shouldn't eat a great deal of spinach, don't eat Barkeeper's Friend either, and you'll be fine.)
Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 16, 2013 12:35 PM (IDSI7)
Posted by: DaveA at February 16, 2013 12:36 PM (6YLIm)
If your question is to me, the answer is yes. Oxalic acid leaves a clean iron surface.
Naval jelly is phosphoric acid, which leaves a surface layer of ferric phosphate, which is insoluble in water. Hence the iron doesn't need painting.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 16, 2013 12:46 PM (IDSI7)
LMOD = Little Meteors Of Doom?"
More like Little Meteors of Disturbance
Posted by: Mr Wolf, non-Esq at February 16, 2013 12:59 PM (UIAT6)
Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie ® at February 16, 2013 01:15 PM (1hM1d)
Not sealed, but they say the surface will have a film good enough for a couple of weeks of rust prevention. This stuff is water based.
The good thin about it is it will get into some pretty small areas and can clean up some finely machined surfaces. I've used it on rusted model airplane engine pistons and cylinders and got them running again.
Posted by: @PurpAv at February 16, 2013 01:19 PM (1rU+d)
If you have vast quantities of rusty, greasy hardware, like nuts, bolts, nails and the like, dump about a five-gallon bucket of them into a standard cement mixer along with enough water to immerse them fully, and about a half-pound of caustic soda (lye). Tumble them in the cement mixer for about an hour, pour off the now nasty-looking caustic solution (which can be reused) and rinse with several changes of fresh water. Spread some old sheets out on a table in the sunshine, and strew the cleaned parts out on the cloth to dry and to be sorted. Sitting in the sunshine, sorting parts, and sipping on a beer is pleasant way to spend the afternoon, too.
A couple of caveats: this stuff will clean aluminum and brass parts very well, but it will also try to dissolve them, so it should not be used on parts with critical dimensions. Also there may be a risk of hydrogen embrittlement of steel parts, so one should probably not use it for highly-stressed bolts like suspension-mounting bolts or connecting rod cap screws.
Actually, the Evapo-Rust sounds like a good product, and I plan to buy some.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 16, 2013 02:16 PM (673KB)
Oxalic acid works, sometimes. YMMV
I''ll try the evapo-rust on some old cast iron fittings and see how it goes.
Posted by: 13times at February 16, 2013 02:18 PM (h6XiD)
Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at February 16, 2013 02:37 PM (celt+)
Posted by: GeorgiaJarhead at February 16, 2013 02:38 PM (N40xx)
When I say brighten I mean like new with no scrubbing. Reduce it 20% or so after testing a sample. Apply using a cheap blond natural fiber bristle "chip" brush. Duct tape the brush to the end of a broomstick if need be.
Don't breath the fumes ( don't stick your face next to the application surface-heh), use outdoors and wear gloves and face splash protection gear. I've used this stuff a lot, just be careful.
Chemical, agricultural and ranch distributor stores sell it.
Posted by: 13times at February 16, 2013 02:42 PM (h6XiD)
Hydrofluoric acid is amazing, but as a chemist I don't recommend it for non-chemists. HF is volatile and toxic as all hell, and if concentrated (probably not the stuff they sell commercially), causes excruciating burns (especially under finger nails).
If you want to be truly amazed, try it on glassware, which will come out unbelievably clean. HF dissolves glass (usually fairly slowly), and will even remove the fiducial markings on, e.g., measuring cups. They just float right off (making the cups useless, obviously). Amazing.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 16, 2013 05:26 PM (IDSI7)
Posted by: Bill sometimes Bill from Canada at February 16, 2013 06:23 PM (c9RgU)
Posted by: toby928© typing slowly with one eye anhd one finger at February 16, 2013 08:42 PM (QupBk)
Since it is an organic material, you are likely to get two or fewer effective sessions out of it since the active ingredient is removed from use (chelated!) and eaten quickly by the bacteria and/or other life that infects it as soon as you open the container. I never got anywhere near the capacity out of a gallon that is claimed by the maker even at first use.
Then there is old fashioned vat of molasses, slow, but the bacterial infections it acquires probably helps the derusting process.
Posted by: crd at February 17, 2013 07:10 AM (7QF1B)
Posted by: Dave at February 17, 2013 07:40 AM (QrkHc)
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