August 22, 2013

A Video Metaphor for the Left Open Thread
— Ace

Oh let's put off the video metaphor for now, because it's a real closer.

New Mexico's Supreme Court rules that people must set aside their religion in order to avoid creating the slightest inconvenience for gay people. It calls this "the price of citizenship."

The court said that Elaine Huguenin, the photographer, had discriminated against gay customers for not photographing their weddings, even though she had said she would be happy to take their pictures in different contexts. The court also refused any differentiation whatsoever between homosexual and heterosexual conduct under the law, despite the fact that same-sex marriage is not licensed in the state of New Mexico. Justice Edward Chavez wrote, “The difficulty in distinguishing between status and conduct in the context of sexual orientation discrimination is that people may base their judgment about an individual's sexual orientation on the individual's conduct. To allow discrimination based on conduct so closely correlated with sexual orientation would severely undermine the purpose of the NMHRA." In other words, orientation and conduct are so intertwined that to discriminate against activity would be to discriminate against the person -- an odd line of logic, given that it would then follow that discriminating against religious activity would constitute discrimination on the basis of religion, making the court's logic self-defeating.

Justice Richard Bosson wrote, in concurrence, that the Huguenins are “compelled by law to compromise the very religious beliefs that inspire their lives.” He concluded, “The Huguenins are free to think, to say, to believe, as they wish; they may pray to the God of their choice and follow those commandments in their personal lives wherever they lead. The Constitution protects the Huguenins in that respect and much more. But there is a price, one that we all have to pay somewhere in our civic life.” That “compromise,” he wrote, “is part of the glue that holds us together as a nation, the tolerance that lubricates the varied moving parts of us as a people. That sense of respect we owe others, whether or not we believe as they do, illuminates this country, setting it apart from the discord that afflicts much of the rest of the world. In short, I would say to the Huguenins, with the utmost respect: it is the price of citizenship.”

Yeah, they could compromise their religious beliefs, or, you know, the gay couple could simply find another photographer. No, by all means, let's use the power of the state to reach as deeply as possible into people's lives instead of just telling the gay couple to "Look online for ten minutes and find someone else."

Obama's NSA review panel is impressing experts due to its composition of skeptics, outsiders, conservatives, and libertarians.

Nah I'm just kidding, it's stuffed to the gills with Obama's cronies and employees.

Gee, I wonder if they'll come back with a report damaging to Obama, one that requires him to make any difficult changes at all, or if they'll just say, "Needs some work but looks PRETTY GREAT!!! (Boss!!!)"

Yeah I wonder about such things.

VDH, America the Trivial.

The media continues not noticing that Chris Lane was killed in a racially-motivated murder:

And three days before what police call the indiscriminate shooting, the suspect, 15-year-old James Edwards Jr., tweeted, “With my n****s when it’s time to start taken life’s.”

Back in April, he tweeted, “90% of white ppl (people) are nasty. #HATE THEM.”

They're also missing the possible gangland initiation angle, Bryan Preston reports.

And on that subject, Time Magazine, a magazine of the Politically Correct Goonsquad Left, calls the part of town Chris Lane ventured into "the grittier part of town."

Whatever could they mean by that? Well what they mean is "black and poor," but they'd crucify anyone else who seemed to mean that.

I mean, anyone not in the media, Democratic Party, or New Class.

(Taranto of the WSJ caught this one and noted it in a tweet. I didn't see Time respond as to what they meant.)

And then there's this newest horror that we won't be discussing in the National Discussion on Race.

And all three networks finally devote serious time to bringing the public up to speed on the recent White House scandals.


Now, via @doreenhdickson and @chicksonright, the Video Metaphor for the Left. Enjoy!

Posted by: Ace at 03:29 PM | Comments (427)
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1 First,  they just fucked each other in the ass.  And when they grew tired of that,  they started fucking EVERYONE in the ass.

Posted by: Dang at August 22, 2013 03:32 PM (Hx2XA)

2 Your pants = public accommodation. Get used to the idea. Also; And on that subject, Time Magazine, a magazine of the Politically Correct Goonsquad Left, calls the part of town Chris Lane ventured into "the grittier part of town." Isn't that dreadfully close to "the conversation," and should I look forward to the writer being fired and shunned?

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at August 22, 2013 03:33 PM (qyfb5)

3 Your religious beliefs are fine and dandy as long as you don't, like, act on any of them.

Posted by: New Mexico Supreme Court at August 22, 2013 03:33 PM (8ZskC)

4 Because Tolerance!

Posted by: HRH Princess Fuzzy Bunny a/k/a Lizzy at August 22, 2013 03:33 PM (UrtRh)

5 And remember gang, gays will never force anyone to do anything against their will. They only wish to live in peace.

Posted by: Blue Hen at August 22, 2013 03:33 PM (PrDJQ)

6 That “compromise,” he wrote, “is part of the glue that holds us together as a nation, the tolerance that lubricates the varied moving parts of us as a people. That sense of respect we owe others, whether or not we believe as they do, illuminates this country

Reverse the roles.  Why can't gays accept someone else's beliefs?  Don't they need to exhibit compromise and tolerance?

Posted by: pep at August 22, 2013 03:33 PM (6TB1Z)

7 First, they just fucked each other in the ass. And when they grew tired of that, they started fucking EVERYONE in the ass. Posted by: Dang at August 22, 2013 07:32 PM (Hx2XA) And now the sheep are worried.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at August 22, 2013 03:33 PM (XIxXP)

8 They have moved from get the government out of their bedroom to the government must be in their bedroom and forcing you in there as well. And you must be applauding. It's the South Park death camp of tolerance (lemmiwinks) episode.

Posted by: Buzzion at August 22, 2013 03:33 PM (47V1T)

9

wow

all the posters at huffpo

Posted by: rain of lead at August 22, 2013 03:34 PM (J/npG)

10 No, by all means, let's use the power of the state to reach as deeply as possible into people's lives instead of just telling the gay couple to "Look online for ten minutes and find someone else." Before long this will be the rule. We will have the same kind of hate laws that they have in Canada on this and lawyers will find a huge market for anyone that can be construed as being disrespectful towards the left;s favorite causes. They will go after churches in a big way and the left will be besides themselves with glee.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 22, 2013 03:34 PM (gTN+E)

11 I don't see the problem. But then, this doesn't apply to us.

Posted by: Nation of Islam at August 22, 2013 03:34 PM (PrDJQ)

12 Before long this will be the rule. We will have the same kind of hate laws that they have in Canada on this and lawyers will find a huge market for anyone that can be construed as being disrespectful towards the left;s favorite causes. They will go after churches in a big way and the left will be besides themselves with glee. Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 22, 2013 07:34 PM (gTN+E) PC, more destructive to America than terrorism.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at August 22, 2013 03:35 PM (XIxXP)

13 So let me get this straight:
Zimmerman fearing a black youth is raaaacism.
Lane not not fearing black youths is stupid.

Posted by: HRH Princess Fuzzy Bunny a/k/a Lizzy at August 22, 2013 03:35 PM (UrtRh)

14 What if I don't want to film bungee jumping or motorcycle racing? What about polygamous marriages? Can a Mormon photographer refuse to photograph drunken revelry?

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at August 22, 2013 03:35 PM (qyfb5)

15

yeah ok try that with muslims

 

Posted by: rain of lead at August 22, 2013 03:36 PM (J/npG)

16 Didn't a certain coblog insist this wouldn't happen? Or did he say too fucking bad? I'm honestly confused.

Posted by: Captain Hate on an iPhone at August 22, 2013 03:36 PM (/XvV5)

17 Didn't a certain coblog insist this wouldn't happen? Or did he say too fucking bad? I'm honestly confused. Posted by: Captain Hate on an iPhone at August 22, 2013 07:36 PM (/XvV5) It was too FKN bad, skipper.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at August 22, 2013 03:37 PM (XIxXP)

18 Ok, now's the part where I do my "I fucking told you so dance. Everyone, everyone, told me that I was crazy to worry about people being forced to perform services for gay weddings, despite their religious beliefs. Why that would *never* happen.

Posted by: Pretty, Pretty Princess Lauren at August 22, 2013 03:37 PM (ELdpj)

19 A ban on gender normative pronouns in love songs over FCC-regulated airwaves.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at August 22, 2013 03:37 PM (qyfb5)

20 Thanks, OSP.

Posted by: Captain Hate on an iPhone at August 22, 2013 03:38 PM (/XvV5)

21 "The Huguenins are free to think, to say, to believe, as they wish; they may pray to the God of their choice and follow those commandments in their personal lives wherever they lead. The Constitution protects the Huguenins in that respect and much more."

So. What's the expiration date on this?

Posted by: Papist bograt at August 22, 2013 03:38 PM (PrDJQ)

22 "In short, I would say to the Huguenins, with the utmost respect: it is the price of citizenship.”

Commie-speak for "you will comply with The State's wishes, or lose your livelihood". They won't be satified until every minute aspect of our lives is under their control.

Posted by: The Third Worfman Of The Apocalypse at August 22, 2013 03:38 PM (Dwehj)

23 "I love black people, but I hate 'gritters'."

Posted by: the editors of Time, doing their Chris Rock impression at August 22, 2013 03:38 PM (zlEwG)

24 New thread up. 

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at August 22, 2013 03:39 PM (v3pYe)

25 Oh, I am so sorry I took oblique shots of your knees and lots of blurry cakes and nothing else. And, no, we indeed have a no refund policy.

Remember me at your next wedding. I'm sure to get those pictures right.

Posted by: FYNQ Photography at August 22, 2013 03:39 PM (eHIJJ)

26

well this leftard judge has set a new standard

we need to find a way to make them own it and ...ahem... jam it down their throats...as it were.

Posted by: rain of lead at August 22, 2013 03:39 PM (J/npG)

27 "Yeah, they could compromise their religious beliefs, or, you know, the gay couple could simply find another photographer."

That's pretty much what it comes down to. Crowbarring and sledgehammering their way in. Overall social comity be damned.

I'm a longtime supporter of gay marriage. Count me among those who argue that the Fourteenth Amendment requires that option.

Count me also among those who say that marriage is an intrinsically conservative institution. (As some liberals in the first wave of gay marriages are now learning to their horror, leading promptly to a wave of gay divorces. What? It's not all about fabulous receptions? You mean I can't casually fuck whomever I want at the drop of a hat any longer without busting up my marriage? Waaaaaah!)

But, while I find that I have to uphold gay marriage rights, I'm also uncomfortably aware that I'm ending up in the ranks with people who I find otherwise repugnant. To include those who Will. Not. Ever. Stop. trying to use government to force everyone else in society to bend a respectful knee to their sexuality.

At that point, Fourteenth Amendment rights start to run afoul of the First Amendment rights of the religious in particular, and as far as I'm concerned, there is a priority scale operating here.

Freedom of association, that often overlooked principle, is also at risk. One cannot have freedom of association without a corresponding freedom of disassociation.

Posted by: torquewrench at August 22, 2013 03:39 PM (gqT4g)

28 Whoops, wrong thread.  /facepalm

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at August 22, 2013 03:39 PM (sGtp+)

29 13 So let me get this straight: Zimmerman fearing a black youth is raaaacism. Lane not not fearing black youths is stupid. Posted by: HRH Princess Fuzzy Bunny a/k/a Lizzy at August 22, 2013 07:35 PM (UrtRh) And anyone who says the latter is a horrifying bigot unless they're on the left, in which case it's best not mentioned. Or if they're wearing a non-regulation onion on their belt.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at August 22, 2013 03:39 PM (qyfb5)

30 ugh...'satisfied'.

Posted by: The Third Worfman Of The Apocalypse at August 22, 2013 03:39 PM (Dwehj)

31 Ooops, the quotes should have been closed for my gloat dance.

Posted by: Pretty, Pretty Princess Lauren at August 22, 2013 03:39 PM (ELdpj)

32

So in New Jersey it is illegal to attempt to covert someone from gay to straight.  I wonder when it will be illegal in the US for the courts to stop attempting to convert us from straight to gay?

Posted by: blue at August 22, 2013 03:39 PM (mwctc)

33 We are never going to have a national discussion on race. We will got straight to other things. People can only be pushed so far.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 22, 2013 03:39 PM (g1DWB)

34 We reserve the right to refuse service unless our beliefs are too heteronormative for you. 

Posted by: no good deed at August 22, 2013 03:40 PM (WmLrU)

35 I'm available that weekend...I can send  some sample 'Head Shots'.

Posted by: Carlos Danger at August 22, 2013 03:41 PM (/Jg6b)

36 while I find that I have to uphold gay marriage rights

Is that your duty, or something?

Posted by: The Third Worfman Of The Apocalypse at August 22, 2013 03:41 PM (Dwehj)

37 14 What if I don't want to film bungee jumping or motorcycle racing?

What about polygamous marriages?

Can a Mormon photographer refuse to photograph drunken revelry? Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith


See, I told you.  Not photographing my unit would be discrimination.

Posted by: A. Weiner at August 22, 2013 03:42 PM (6TB1Z)

38 Where's the percentage in forcing someone to take pictures anyway? Show up drunk with a disposable camera - there are your pictures, assholes. Hope you like em.

Posted by: Waterhouse at August 22, 2013 03:42 PM (VimQr)

39 We are never going to have a national discussion on race. We will go straight to other things.

Will there be handbaskets involved?


Posted by: John Bradley at August 22, 2013 03:42 PM (zlEwG)

40 I have decided to abandon my heteronormative, slave gender and demand that I now be known as Justice Carol Channing.

Posted by: the judge formerly known as justice chavez at August 22, 2013 03:42 PM (joFbZ)

41 Can we just get out of the way and let the liberal queerleaders ("Ra ra ra GAY hey you in front you're not cheering loud enough WE GOT SPIRIT!") and the jihadis go at it until they're both gone? When the sodomite apologists start agitating for bigamous, polygamous, incestuous marriage with the same fervor, I'll accept their stance as an intellectually consistent one. Until then, I'll continue to be disgusted at society at large, and I eagerly await its coming destruction.

Posted by: Doctor Cynic at August 22, 2013 03:43 PM (3TTMv)

42 And now the sheep are worried.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016

 

HAHAHAHAHA

Posted by: Liberty Lover at August 22, 2013 03:43 PM (2DgBs)

43 Who is that mean red-haired harridan spokeswoman for the State Dept?

I have never seen anyone so pompous and condescending since Baroque and his middle-finger salutes...and she may have him beat. She sneers at reporters. Someone gave her crap tonight about the missing Samantha Powers of the UN after she read her statement on not knowing squat and then the typical transparent administration of batting questions to another dept (in this case, the UN in regard to chemical weapons in Syria0. She is mean. I would think men flee from her, but I could be wrong.

She always thinks she looks fabulous with her accessories as well. I hope the press revolts soon, as I think I am not alone. She makes Cankles look like Sally Fields the Flying Nun.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Queen of something and wears tiara. Deal with it. at August 22, 2013 03:43 PM (baL2B)

44 5 And remember gang, gays will never force anyone to do anything against their will. They only wish to live in peace. Posted by: Blue Hen at August 22, 2013 07:33 PM (PrDJQ) And they will never get around to suing Christian clergy and churches for refusing to join a same-sex pair in "holy matrimony." /

Posted by: baldilocks at August 22, 2013 03:43 PM (Tnlh/)

45 Mark Levin is talking about an 89 year old white WWII vet who was beaten to death by two black teenagers. I don't have a link, but I'm sure it will come to light soon enough.

Posted by: rickl at August 22, 2013 03:43 PM (sdi6R)

46 America the trivial.

I'm going to presume that I am normal and that there are other people 'out there' like me who are paying attention to the big stuff and have reached their limit. We're now just waiting out the next three years and hoping we'll get someone else in there, the Office of President.

In the meantime, we're not going to sweat the big stuff, and we're going to laugh at the little stuff, and if the fertilizer overloads the air circulation device, we'll be ready for that too. So, in the mean time, it's all fun and games until someone pokes and eye out.

Posted by: Caffeine affected Reactionary at August 22, 2013 03:44 PM (h3fR3)

47 I'm already so depressed, enraged, and upset over what our son is going through on his duty station trying to leave the military, I can barely speak.  He's being shaken down of ever dime he's earned serving his country, by a shakedown company supported by the government in the country he's in.

Have no words.  Can't wait until I can tell the HQ about it.

In the meantime, forgive me for my angry shit a couple of weeks ago.


Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 22, 2013 03:44 PM (lVPtV)

48 Mark Levin is talking about an 89 year old white WWII vet who was beaten to death by two black teenagers.
I don't have a link, but I'm sure it will come to light soon enough.


Or...maybe not.

Posted by: The MFM at August 22, 2013 03:45 PM (Dwehj)

49 And they will never get around to suing Christian clergy and churches for refusing to join a same-sex pair in "holy matrimony." / Posted by: baldilocks at August 22, 2013 07:43 PM (Tnlh/) Oh, wasn't that in the news a week or two ago? You can't even sarcastically predict people's actions fast enough these days. The second you come up with a horrible perversion or word of law, someone is already doing it.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at August 22, 2013 03:45 PM (qyfb5)

50 Soon gay marriage will be mandatory. Doesn't matter if you are gay or not, you are getting a same sex spouse.

Posted by: blaster at August 22, 2013 03:45 PM (NAU+F)

51 Anyone who doesn't see the state forcing churches to conduct "wedding" ceremonies is just not paying attention. 

I'm wondering what will happen when a couple tries to force the LDS church to perform a Temple Marriage.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 22, 2013 03:45 PM (IoTdl)

52 Meanwhile the scoamf will be discussing bisexual issues. A closed door meeting for some reason. http://tinyurl.com/keaothm

Posted by: YIKES! at August 22, 2013 03:46 PM (mETGQ)

53 Don't shit angry.

Posted by: Bill Murray at August 22, 2013 03:46 PM (/Jg6b)

54

@32 So in New Jersey it is illegal to attempt to convert someone from gay to straight. I wonder when the courts will stop trying to convert us from straight to gay?

fixed it, I am not good at this commenting thing I guess.

 

Posted by: blue at August 22, 2013 03:46 PM (mwctc)

55 Jane: forgiven. Have no idea what for, but hang in there. Count the days left with a big X on calendar. Prayers for him and all of our fine men and women who serve.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Queen of something and wears tiara. Deal with it. at August 22, 2013 03:46 PM (baL2B)

56 89 year old WWII vet beaten to death outside hie Eagles lodge by..you guessed it.. 2 black youts http://tinyurl.com/mqu9pea

Posted by: Tuna at August 22, 2013 03:46 PM (M/TDA)

57 I have a thing for sheep. (No, not THAT way, you pervs.) As individuals and in small groups, they're way cool. But man are they ever repulsive in large groups. No wonder border collies are teh nutz.

Posted by: Y-not at August 22, 2013 03:47 PM (5H6zj)

58 I think you'll find the backdoor will be open at that meeting.

Posted by: the judge formerly known as justice chavez at August 22, 2013 03:47 PM (joFbZ)

59

Mark Levin is talking about an 89 year old white WWII vet who was beaten to death by two black teenagers.

 

 

Local News Story. 

Posted by: The Narrative at August 22, 2013 03:47 PM (/Jg6b)

60 That's why I gave up my gigolo business.    Balls across the nose.   Oh!

Posted by: dirks strewn at August 22, 2013 03:47 PM (n+DCP)

61 Don't shit angry.

Boy, I'll say.

Posted by: Zombie James Gandolfini at August 22, 2013 03:47 PM (Dwehj)

62 The dominoes have fallen... first we must be 'tolerant'... now we MUST provide 'acceptance' and embrace all non-nomative actions

Posted by: phreshone at August 22, 2013 03:48 PM (Pr6hk)

63 How YOU doin'?

Posted by: the top ram at August 22, 2013 03:48 PM (joFbZ)

64 Have no words. Can't wait until I can tell the HQ about it. Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 22, 2013 07:44 PM (lVPtV) I can't wait. Seriously, it sounds like something about which word needs to get out.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at August 22, 2013 03:48 PM (qyfb5)

65 Drudge is running a story about an 89 year-old WWII vet who was assaulted -- and subsequently died -- in Spokane.

The perps looked like Choom Boy's sons.

I won't say what I think now must happen to keep the United States from collapsing into bankruptcy, violence, terrorism and all the other manifestations of Third World shitholes like *cough* Kenya *cough*.

Pro Tip: It ain't gonna be pretty. And a few well-known "Servants of the People" and Prophets of Choom are going to have to pay big-time for their treason.

Posted by: MrScribbler at August 22, 2013 03:48 PM (kaGpp)

66 55 Jane: forgiven. Have no idea what for, but hang in there. Count the days left with a big X on calendar. Prayers for him and all of our fine men and women who serve.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Queen of something and wears tiara. Deal with it. at August 22, 2013 07:46 PM (baL2B)




Thank you, honey.  You have no idea what the Japanese government is doing to our son (and others) to punish them for serving on Okinawa.  Our son is about to lose every single dollar he worked for to a shake-down artist on the island, supported by the government.  Even the JAG officer assigned to our boy has given him no hope.


Want to die.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 22, 2013 03:49 PM (lVPtV)

67 I thought everyone knew about the1st Amendment penumbra, where free speech is suspended within 25 feet of any gay or his/her/its wallet?

Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at August 22, 2013 03:49 PM (cTZvT)

68 The dominoes have fallen... first we must be 'tolerant'... now we MUST provide 'acceptance' and embrace all non-nomative actions Posted by: phreshone at August 22, 2013 07:48 PM (Pr6hk) And then you have to participate to prove it.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at August 22, 2013 03:49 PM (qyfb5)

69 >>>Mark Levin is talking about an 89 year old white WWII vet who was beaten to death by two black teenagers.

it's in the post, "new horror that we won't be discussing..."


Posted by: ace at August 22, 2013 03:49 PM (/IWYB)

70 See 56 for the link

Posted by: Tuna at August 22, 2013 03:50 PM (M/TDA)

71

[Ace - ] "They're also missing the possible gangland initiation angle...

 

Yeah, Ace...that was my first thought, when I heard about this story.

A gang initiation.

 

The Crips and Bloods have been 'claiming' little towns here in OK for some time.

 

There were stories five years ago, about the gangs recruiting little kids to do burglaries for them...

Because the little kids wouldn't get put in jail, if they got caught.

 

The gang leaders know that juvies have a 'Get out of jail free' card.

And they exploit it.

 

Posted by: wheatie at August 22, 2013 03:50 PM (el7k2)

72 Taking Life's is a great movie crackas!!!

Posted by: 15 year old thug at August 22, 2013 03:50 PM (Aif/5)

73 I have a question for the NM Supreme Court:   Under this ruling, can I demand that a halal caterer provide bacon wrapped pork loin and that all their employees serve alcohol at my reception?


I mean, after all, that's what I want and under this ruling it sure as hell seems like I get it. 


Because, hey, if those are the rules?  Game.   On. 

Posted by: alexthechick - Team SMOD at August 22, 2013 03:51 PM (Gk3SS)

74

it's in the post, "new horror that we won't be discussing..."

 

 

Gotta put that shit in the comments if you want us to read it, Ace.

Posted by: garrett at August 22, 2013 03:51 PM (/Jg6b)

75 56 89 year old WWII vet beaten to death outside hie Eagles lodge by..you guessed it.. 2 black youts http://tinyurl.com/mqu9pea Posted by: Tuna at August 22, 2013 07:46 PM (M/TDA) Yep, that sounds like the exact article that Levin was reading.

Posted by: rickl at August 22, 2013 03:51 PM (sdi6R)

76 15 yeah ok try that with muslims Posted by: rain of lead at August 22, 2013 07:36 PM (J/npG) Well all know that this will never happen. Leftists are cowards for the most part. Back in 2008 when Proposition 8 (marriage solely between one man and one woman) was passed in CA, the usual suspects came out (no pun intended) and protested in front of several Mormon churches. Here's the thing: there are several megachurches in South Central LA with mostly black congregations. These churches actively asked that their congregants vote yes on Prop 8. And roughly 70% of black CA voters voted yes. One could argue that it was (black and Hispanic) voters who got the proposition passed. But were there any Leftists protesting in the hood? Don't make me laugh. Cowards.

Posted by: baldilocks at August 22, 2013 03:52 PM (Tnlh/)

77

Urban blacks like the knockout game. See a defenceless cracker, sucker punch him, and then beat him to death. It's such fun, and your friends can play too. Good times.

 

Unless the vic is packing, like Zimmerman was. 

Posted by: redenzo at August 22, 2013 03:52 PM (vx61Q)

78 ) 73 I have a question for the NM Supreme Court: Under this ruling, can I demand that a halal caterer provide bacon wrapped pork loin and that all their employees serve alcohol at my reception?   I mean, after all, that's what I want and under this ruling it sure as hell seems like I get it.   Because, hey, if those are the rules? Game. On. 

Posted by: alexthechick - Team SMOD at August 22, 2013 07:51 PM (Gk3SS)



Don't forget to demand that they use skimpily clad female employees.   It's your right or something, after all.   

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at August 22, 2013 03:53 PM (oY6Yp)

79

>>> And then you have to participate to prove it.

 

 

Permission to fellate the State's witness, your honor?

Posted by: Gay Lawyer at August 22, 2013 03:53 PM (/Jg6b)

80 >>>The dominoes have fallen... first we must be 'tolerant'... now we MUST provide 'acceptance' and embrace all non-nomative actions<<<<

And what is going to happen in the schools is they won't even be allowed to discuss any sort of traditional sexual morality because it will be considered exclusive, Christian, and judgemental--"Heather has Two Mommies" and "Daddy's Roommate" however, will be diverse and inclusive and celebrated--and required reading.

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living... at August 22, 2013 03:53 PM (E3gqr)

Posted by: Capp at August 22, 2013 03:53 PM (RfJHy)

82
My guess is some gay people in various parts of the country are going to get some really bad pictures or some really nasty tasting cake if this crap keeps up.  You can not make people your slaves and expect no retaliation.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 22, 2013 03:53 PM (uX+Qq)

83 "new horror that we won't be discussing..."

We must accept their senseless anger and rage. It's the price of citizenship.

Posted by: NM Supreme Court Justice at August 22, 2013 03:53 PM (Dwehj)

84 Because, hey, if those are the rules? Game. On. Posted by: alexthechick - Team SMOD at August 22, 2013 07:51 PM (Gk3SS) No. The rules are You Lose No Matter What, Because You're Not 100% On Board With Our Agenda. I mean, seriously, if the IRS "non-scandal" doesn't say "the system is for use against you - not use by you," I don't know what does.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at August 22, 2013 03:53 PM (qyfb5)

85

@38Where's the percentage in forcing someone to take pictures anyway? Show up drunk with a disposable camera - there are your pictures, assholes. Hope you like em.

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Then they'd sue you for, "You ruined my wedding with your lousy pictures!  Waaaaah!"

 

And probably win.

 

Posted by: junior at August 22, 2013 03:54 PM (UWFpX)

86 So, they eat grits in the grittier part of town? Is that it, Time? Sheesh. If I knew I had the power to organize it, I would love a million citizen march - open to all people who love this nation - to march on the offices of Jackson, Sharpton, Farrakkkan etc. and show them what REAL organized and angry people can do. Fuck them to Hell.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 22, 2013 03:54 PM (+98Gb)

87 #winning!

Posted by: NAMBLA at August 22, 2013 03:55 PM (EZl54)

88 So, to sum up,  as between the two parties, one was going to have to compromise a constitutional interest as a price of engaging in civic life.  The court allocated the burden and detriment of compromise entirely on the party asserting a religious interest, notwithstanding the fact that religion is a bedrock first principle of constitutional freedom and the interest that is only just now being recognized is made to bear no burden of detriment at all.

Got it.

Put more simply, the orthodoxy and practice of two religions were in conflict and the court picked the one their politics makes them like better.

Posted by: Liechendiener at August 22, 2013 03:56 PM (u3N3z)

89 33 We are never going to have a national discussion on race. We will got straight to other things. People can only be pushed so far. Posted by: JackStraw at August 22, 2013 07:39 PM (g1DWB) Careful Jack. Ace got mad a someone else for saying the same thing the other day...until he figure out that that someone else was me. :/

Posted by: baldilocks at August 22, 2013 03:56 PM (Tnlh/)

90

@49And they will never get around to suing Christian clergy and churches for refusing to join a same-sex pair in "holy matrimony." /

Posted by: baldilocks at August 22, 2013 07:43 PM (Tnlh/)


Oh, wasn't that in the news a week or two ago?

You can't even sarcastically predict people's actions fast enough these days. The second you come up with a horrible perversion or word of law, someone is already doing it.

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Yes, and no.  So far in the US that sort of thing has been restricted to non-church properties that are owned by churches.  However, you might be thinking of the suit filed a couple of weeks ago in the UK to force the Anglican church to perform SSM weddings.

 

Posted by: junior at August 22, 2013 03:56 PM (UWFpX)

91 My dad would have been 89 this year and his brother - had he survived Saipan (and then Okinawa) would have been 97. These bastards make me sick. It is getting to the point where we will have a vigilante act against the next vermin that does this. And I for one will cheer it.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 22, 2013 03:56 PM (+98Gb)

92 When fascism comes to America, it will come wrapped in the flag fairness and waving a cross rainbow.

Posted by: Capp at August 22, 2013 03:57 PM (RfJHy)

93 Don't forget to demand that they use skimpily clad female employees. It's your right or something, after all.
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at August 22, 2013 07:53 PM (oY6Yp)



No, seriously, if it weren't for the fact that a.  I don't live in NM, b. I'm not exactly seeing anyone at the moment and c.  I don't want to get beheaded, I'd love to bring that suit. 


I've read the ruling a few times and it sure as hell seems to me that a strong argument can be made that refusing to change your menu to accommodate the desires of someone in a protected class should also be verbotten.  After all, it's a religious based objection.


How about this, go after some Gaia worshiping vegan caterer and demand cis serve veal.   That should do it.



Posted by: alexthechick - Team SMOD at August 22, 2013 03:57 PM (Gk3SS)

94

51Anyone who doesn't see the state forcing churches to conduct "wedding" ceremonies is just not paying attention.

I'm wondering what will happen when a couple tries to force the LDS church to perform a Temple Marriage.

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My understanding is that we're already moving toward the "civil marriage first, temple ceremony afterwards" approach.  It's already in use in some other countries due to restrictions on who can perform marriages.

 

Posted by: junior at August 22, 2013 03:58 PM (UWFpX)

95 or, you know, the gay couple could simply find another photographer.

I don't know why a couple would want the visual record of their nuptials--the one you show to the grandkids so they can ooooh over how sweet you look--to be provided by someone who seethingly resents having to be there, but I've never had a wedding, so what would I know.

Posted by: Nanny Bloomberg at August 22, 2013 03:59 PM (/kI1Q)

96
Two acts of completely capricious law I have read lately, this NM ruling and the other appellate court ruling that said law enforcement doesn't need a warrant to search your cell phone.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 22, 2013 03:59 PM (uX+Qq)

97

[Ace - ] "And then there's this newest horror that we won't be discussing in the National Discussion on Race."

 

The Left has created this 'culture of lawlessness'.

 

But they want to blame it all on...guns.

 

Yet it is this 'culture of lawlessness' that the Left has created, that makes it even more necessary that we arm ourselves in order to survive it.

 

 

Posted by: wheatie at August 22, 2013 03:59 PM (el7k2)

98 Fucking fascist sock.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ is still at work and needs a beer at August 22, 2013 04:00 PM (/kI1Q)

99 So a business can't simply refuse service to someone they don't want to serve?

Posted by: steevy at August 22, 2013 04:00 PM (9XBK2)

100

And then you have to participate to prove it.

 

 

I, for one, am sickened by your racist outbursts.

/

Posted by: garrett at August 22, 2013 04:00 PM (/Jg6b)

101 Lest anyone forget just exactly ho wonderful Cass Sunstein is, be sure to read the linked profile (Salon!) of his idea to "infiltrate covert agents" domestically into online discussion boards, civic discussions and even political events so as to spread propaganda. Sunstein, married to Samantha Power, is one helluva socialist soldier! http://bit.ly/s6zORH

Posted by: President For Life Obama at August 22, 2013 04:00 PM (ZuiHO)

102

@76 Well all know that this will never happen. Leftists are cowards for the most part.

Back in 2008 when Proposition 8 (marriage solely between one man and one woman) was passed in CA, the usual suspects came out (no pun intended) and protested in front of several Mormon churches. Here's the thing: there are several megachurches in South Central LA with mostly black congregations. These churches actively asked that their congregants vote yes on Prop 8. And roughly 70% of black CA voters voted yes. One could argue that it was (black and Hispanic) voters who got the proposition passed.

But were there any Leftists protesting in the hood? Don't make me laugh. Cowards.

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There was even an anti-Mormon ad shortly before the vote that had a couple of Mormon missionaries storming into the apartment of a gay couple.

 

Posted by: junior at August 22, 2013 04:00 PM (UWFpX)

103 The Left has created this 'culture of lawlessness'. But they want to blame it all on...guns. Yet it is this 'culture of lawlessness' that the Left has created, that makes it even more necessary that we arm ourselves in order to survive it. Posted by: wheatie at August 22, 2013 07:59 PM (el7k2) Ah, the vicious circle.

Posted by: baldilocks at August 22, 2013 04:00 PM (Tnlh/)

104 That old fucker had it coming to him.

Posted by: Jap rapper at August 22, 2013 04:00 PM (wR+pz)

105 Re: "Grittier part of town"

So does this imply that it is OK to fear black youths when in the "grittier part of town"...
OR
One should avoid the "grittier part of town", and Lane was stupid for not doing so? (Sounds raaacist, doesn't it?)

Reminder: According to HUD's new master plan every community will become a "grittier part of town" because Fairness.

Posted by: HRH Princess Fuzzy Bunny a/k/a Lizzy at August 22, 2013 04:01 PM (UrtRh)

106 So I have to call a man a woman on his mere assertion, or I'm a transphobe.

I have to call 'marriage' something that isn't, or I'm a homophobe.

I have to shut my fucking mouth about our shitstain of a president, or I'm a racist.

I loathe the left. My rage is quiet, but eternal. Woe to them should it ever be called to action.

Posted by: Bivalve Curious at August 22, 2013 04:01 PM (sYUAj)

107 Has the Hemlock Society died out yet?

Posted by: Craig Poe at August 22, 2013 04:01 PM (BVkEs)

108 mmmm, veal.

Posted by: garrett at August 22, 2013 04:02 PM (/Jg6b)

109 So a business can't simply refuse service to someone they don't want to serve? Posted by: steevy at August 22, 2013 08:00 PM (9XBK2)


Not if the other party is in a protected class.   Maybe I should start loaning myself out to people in NM to help them get what they want.   Can't get a reservation at that restaurant?   Discrimination!   Can't get into the salon?  Discrimination!


Hmmmm.   I shall have to ponder.  

Posted by: alexthechick - Team SMOD at August 22, 2013 04:02 PM (Gk3SS)

110 Gee, I wonder if they'll come back with a report damaging to Obama, one that requires him to make any difficult changes at all, or if they'll just say, "Needs some work but looks PRETTY GREAT!!! (Boss!!!)" I disagree Ace. They will whole-heartenly recommend changes that will most certainly make it harder for whistle-blowers and Congressional oversight.

Posted by: John P. Squibob at August 22, 2013 04:03 PM (V5PSm)

111 Oh, and since I missed the class war/populist critique thread, I'll say this here;

As much as we may want to fight the battle on class and economics, right now the Dems have been very effective at dividing us up by race (mainly because they've been able to get away with no push back I think) and unless you can get a really charismatic populist leader that can cut across those racial lines and realign people's thinking that is going to continue to be the battleground. I don't think it has to be a black or hispanic to do this, just someone with real blue collar cred that can connect.

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living... at August 22, 2013 04:03 PM (E3gqr)

112 I apologize for going off on EoJ a couple of weeks ago.  I don't even know why.

Our son is trying to come home.  I'm so depressed over what the fucking Japanese are doing to him I can't see straight.

Anyhow, I love EoJ and all you fuckwits.   Heh.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 22, 2013 04:03 PM (lVPtV)

113 "Gay" is the new term for "superior."  People who want psychological counseling to go from gay to straight should be shouted down, because they are clearly trying to devolve into a lesser being.  Someone who comes out as gay, on the other hand, should be congratulated, encouraged, and given lots of state money.

The left is going to have us all killing each other over tribalism within ten years.

Posted by: Null at August 22, 2013 04:03 PM (xjpRj)

114 Fucking fascist sock.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ is still at work and needs a beer at August 22, 2013 08:00 PM (/kI1Q)



Is it good?

Posted by: Horny Left Foot at August 22, 2013 04:04 PM (hpYnL)

115 Of course the Left courts unintended consequences at every possible chance they get. The results of enforcing anti-discrimination laws for gay couples is going to be a greater level of networking within church communities. Photogs and others who make their livelihood at weddings and do not wish to be told how to run their biz are likely to rely on churches, temples, etc. for referrals. That is, until the Left succeeds in finding a court that declares opposition to gay weddings as 'political activity/no redeeming value' and removes their tax status.

Posted by: weft, all kitted up for RINOv.PURE [/i] [/b] at August 22, 2013 04:05 PM (hSwFv)

116 ot or maybe not We just watched Star Trek Into Darkness. It should have been called Star Trek: Emo. Was there one man who didn't cry, or who wasn't PMS'ing? Or, on the verge of an emotional breakdown? meh

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 22, 2013 04:05 PM (IXrOn)

117 We are the ones we've been waiting for. We are the change that we seek.

codswallop!

Posted by: LC LaWedgie at August 22, 2013 04:05 PM (6xhLc)

118 I don't understand this stuff. People encroach on your right to free contract, give them the business. Bakers, piss in their cakes, Photogs, cut off their heads.

Posted by: toby928© embraces the suck at August 22, 2013 04:05 PM (QupBk)

119 If I had a another  Dad he would look like Del Belton.

Posted by: redenzo at August 22, 2013 04:06 PM (vx61Q)

120 Alright. Whose the clown that hid the concept of freedom of choice from these Judges?

Posted by: Marcus at August 22, 2013 04:06 PM (RDnLo)

121 NAMBLA: the price of citizenship.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 22, 2013 04:06 PM (IXrOn)

122 I read in comments of the 89 yr old veteran's murder by racist thugs that the death penalty still exists in Washington State. Good. He was the same age as my late father, a WWII Marine, would have been. Beating to death an 89 yr old man. Unreal. I really need to stop reading the news in all forms and just let the world implode while thinking happy thoughts.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Queen of something and wears tiara. Deal with it. at August 22, 2013 04:06 PM (baL2B)

123 http://tinyurl.com/ka5avvt from the dailymail Boy 'arrested over Australian baseball's murder' is linked to string of armed robberies with his PREGNANT girlfriend

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl i support the rodeo clown at August 22, 2013 04:07 PM (8JJ6O)

124 109 So a business can't simply refuse service to someone they don't want to serve? Posted by: steevy at August 22, 2013 08:00 PM (9XBK2) Not if the other party is in a protected class. Maybe I should start loaning myself out to people in NM to help them get what they want. Can't get a reservation at that restaurant? Discrimination! Can't get into the salon? Discrimination! Hmmmm. I shall have to ponder. Posted by: alexthechick - Team SMOD at August 22, 2013 08:02 PM (Gk3SS) Wasn't this part of the CRA? Didn't homosexuals get added to that class? That's one of the CRAs flaws. Forcing a business owner to do business with another entity is just as bad as forbidding a business owner from doing with another entity, e.g. Jim Crow.

Posted by: baldilocks at August 22, 2013 04:07 PM (Tnlh/)

125 >>Careful Jack. Ace got mad a someone else for saying the same thing the other day...until he figure out that that someone else was me. :/ Ace gets mad at me all the time. He'll probably ban me one of these days. But I have noticed that he is increasingly coming around to what many of us have been saying for a long time. The left doesn't want any discussions, that's just another of their lies. They want to tell us that we are evil and then tell us what is the appropriate way of thinking. It works for a while because most people are basically good and all they hear from traditional sources is that we are evil and must pay for our sins. I had dinner last night with some friends and one in particular was upset about the Trayvon case. This is a smart, educated woman who gets her news straight from the msm. Because I work at home when not traveling for work I get to watch the news and I took her threw the trial issue by issue. She was amazed at what really happened, just had no idea. And then she was angry at how she had been duped. I would welcome an open and honest discussion about race, economics, a whole host of topics. But the left does not want a discussion on any of it. This will only work for so long. Those of us who pay the bills for this increasingly bankrupt society will only tolerate it for just so long. And if there is no discussion, things will go in another way. I said before Obama was elected right here on this very blog that race relations would be set back decades by this dick and his insane clown posse. I see no reason to doubt that claim as sad as it is to say.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 22, 2013 04:07 PM (g1DWB)

126 Hmmmm. I shall have to ponder.

Posted by: alexthechick - Team SMOD at August 22, 2013 08:02 PM (Gk3SS)


Find a sleazy lawyer to partner with and you can offer a full range of services from offense to judgment.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 22, 2013 04:07 PM (8ZskC)

127 Zombie Madison is going to be pissed.

Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at August 22, 2013 04:07 PM (cTZvT)

128 Divide and conquer is actually a good strategy. It just depends on who's doing the dividing and the conquering.

Posted by: Craig Poe at August 22, 2013 04:08 PM (BVkEs)

129 Just saw a commercial for Al Jazeera America.

Posted by: steevy at August 22, 2013 04:10 PM (9XBK2)

Posted by: HUSKER DU at August 22, 2013 04:10 PM (/Jg6b)

131

129Just saw a commercial for Al Jazeera America.

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There are times when I'm intensely grateful that I don't have cable...

 

Posted by: junior at August 22, 2013 04:10 PM (UWFpX)

132 I reserve the right to make mock of men who suck cock.

Posted by: toby928© embraces the suck at August 22, 2013 04:11 PM (QupBk)

133 we need to find a way to make them own it and ...ahem... jam it down their throats...as it were. They rely on the fact that only gay couples would care so little about their marriage to make a dumb political point. But, hell, if they force you to photograph their wedding against your will, charge as much as you can and do a shitty job. Suppose you had an Indian friend who referred an awesome photographer to you. You went to them and they said, "Sorry, I only do Hindu weddings." What would you do? Would you seriously sue them? Or would you just say "OK" and find somebody else? Would you really go out of your way to seek their validation?

Posted by: AmishDude at August 22, 2013 04:11 PM (T0NGe)

134 "62 The dominoes have fallen... first we must be 'tolerant'... now we MUST provide 'acceptance' and embrace all non-nomative actions

Posted by: phreshone at August 22, 2013 07:48 PM (Pr6hk)"




Winston Smith wasn't killed in "1984" until he loved Big Brother.

Posted by: Sudden Clarity Clarence at August 22, 2013 04:11 PM (S3ODI)

135 Wasn't this part of the CRA? Didn't homosexuals get added to that class?

That's one of the CRAs flaws. Forcing a business owner to do business with another entity is just as bad as forbidding a business owner from doing with another entity, e.g. Jim Crow. Posted by: baldilocks at August 22, 2013 08:07 PM (Tnlh/)



This ruling was under the NM Human Rights Act.  I have no idea if the CRA did that but I wouldn't be surprised if it did.  


Find a sleazy lawyer to partner with and you can offer a full range of services from offense to judgment.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 22, 2013 08:07 PM (8ZskC)



Seriously, if it weren't for the fact that I can't move due to the 'rents being here, I would be very tempted to head for Santa Fe and engage in some lawfare.   My brother used to live there and I like that area. 



Posted by: alexthechick - Team SMOD at August 22, 2013 04:12 PM (Gk3SS)

136

103...Ah, the vicious circle.

 

Yeah, balilocks...it really is.

 

Question is, did they do this on purpose? ...Or are they too stupid to see the reality of what their policies have done.

Posted by: wheatie at August 22, 2013 04:12 PM (el7k2)

137 "Gay" is the new term for "superior." People who want psychological counseling to go from gay to straight should be shouted down, Posted by: Null at August 22, 2013 08:03 PM (xjpRj)
Perhaps there will be counseling to go from straight to gay. Who wouldn't want to be "superior"?
 

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at August 22, 2013 04:12 PM (QDk4A)

138 New Mexico's Supreme Court rules that people must set aside their religion in order to avoid creating the slightest inconvenience for gay people. Another business to go stealth. Just say you're booked full.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 22, 2013 04:12 PM (IXrOn)

139 I needed to see that sheep video. Almost made me forget the latest murder..almost.

Posted by: Tuna at August 22, 2013 04:12 PM (M/TDA)

140 101 Lest anyone forget just exactly ho wonderful Cass Sunstein is, be sure to read the linked profile (Salon!) of his idea to "infiltrate covert agents" domestically into online discussion boards, civic discussions and even political events so as to spread propaganda. ------- That's terrifying!!

Posted by: Jeff Bee at August 22, 2013 04:12 PM (Aif/5)

141 "The grittier part of town, coming soon to your gated community"
http://preview.tinyurl.com/knvjwya

But you can make them use the back entrance.

"Manhattan developer Extell is seeking millions in air rights and tax breaks for building 55 low-income units at 40 Riverside Boulevard. . ."

Posted by: Caffeine affected Reactionary at August 22, 2013 04:13 PM (h3fR3)

142 It works for a while because most people are basically good and all they hear from traditional sources is that we are evil and must pay for our sins. I had dinner last night with some friends and one in particular was upset about the Trayvon case. This is a smart, educated woman who gets her news straight from the msm. Because I work at home when not traveling for work I get to watch the news and I took her threw the trial issue by issue. She was amazed at what really happened, just had no idea. And then she was angry at how she had been duped. Posted by: JackStraw at August 22, 2013 08:07 PM (g1DWB) The exact same thing happened with me and my smart, conservative and quite white brother-in-law (note the irony). One of the the things he was particularly incensed about was the fact that Tray Von Martin's burglary record was suppressed. He found that out from me.

Posted by: baldilocks at August 22, 2013 04:14 PM (Tnlh/)

143 "Manhattan developer Extell is seeking millions in air rights and tax
breaks for building 55 low-income units at 40 Riverside Boulevard. . ."

Posted by: Caffeine affected Reactionary at August 22, 2013 08:13 PM (h3fR3)

Couldn't happen to a more self-righteous and judgemental group of coddled jerks.

Posted by: CAC at August 22, 2013 04:14 PM (r4gsK)

144 What are 'air rights'?

Posted by: toby928© embraces the suck at August 22, 2013 04:14 PM (QupBk)

145 Ron Paul and the Paultards are now pro-Badley Manning. Fuck Ron Paul.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at August 22, 2013 04:15 PM (ZPrif)

146 I work in a printing shop, and today I got a call from a woman who inquired about ordering invitations. She said she had been in a gay relationship for 22 years, had recently gotten married, and wanted to hold an event commemorating their union. She asked me if my company had any objection to that, and I said no. (My boss and I are pretty conservative, but we are not in the habit of turning away potential customers.) I'm sure that some gays are looking for the opportunity of a test case where they find a company that refuses service and sues them for discrimination. But I didn't get that vibe from this woman. She sounded like a very nice lady on the phone. Like anybody else, there are some gays who are private and discreet, and are not looking to offend anybody and put them on the spot. Then there are the freaks and radicals who are in your face 24/7 and deliberately provoke the straights. This caller sounded like she is in the first category. So she said she'll come in on Monday to look through our catalogs. We have an employee who is a twenty-something woman who is a huge Lady Gaga fan, and thinks that Gay Rights is the most important cause evah. I think I'll let her deal with these customers.

Posted by: rickl at August 22, 2013 04:15 PM (sdi6R)

147

@138 Another business to go stealth.

Just say you're booked full.

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They'll hire you first, and only tell you that it's for a same sex wedding afterwards.

 

Posted by: junior at August 22, 2013 04:15 PM (UWFpX)

148 Something tells me we are going to hear more about this photographer by not complying with the SC's ruling.

Posted by: sonnyspats at August 22, 2013 04:15 PM (N3Al8)

149 Question is, did they do this on purpose? ...Or are they too stupid to see the reality of what their policies have done. Posted by: wheatie at August 22, 2013 08:12 PM (el7k2) You know what I'm going to say....

Posted by: baldilocks at August 22, 2013 04:15 PM (Tnlh/)

150 >That's one of the CRAs flaws. Forcing a business owner to do
business with another entity is just as bad as forbidding a business
owner from doing with another entity, e.g. Jim Crow.




remember when we thought Obamacare would die in the Supreme Court because there was NO WAY the Court would rule that government can force us to buy a product or service?


good times, good times

Posted by: Jones in CO at August 22, 2013 04:16 PM (8sCoq)

151 Those photographers against shooting gay couple weddings should have t-shirts on the ready - stating their opposition while attending the wedding. Make them as uncomfortable as they possibly can. Ruin their wedding. Any couple that would attack another person's beliefs such as this aren't worthy of a fine wedding.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 22, 2013 04:16 PM (IXrOn)

152 >And then there's this newest horror that we won't be discussing in the National Discussion on Race

Drawing and quartering comes immediately to mind. Another thing those irrelevant old dead white guys were right on with.

Posted by: kartoffel at August 22, 2013 04:16 PM (TWglc)

153

#145

A great way to infuriate progressives:

Spell it Chelsea Manning*

 

But never explain the asterisk, just leave it there.

 

 

Posted by: CAC at August 22, 2013 04:17 PM (r4gsK)

154 What are 'air rights'? Posted by: toby928© embraces the suck at August 22, 2013 08:14 PM (QupBk)


Very very roughly speaking, how tall you can build.

Posted by: alexthechick - Team SMOD at August 22, 2013 04:17 PM (Gk3SS)

155 They'll hire you first, and only tell you that it's for a same sex wedding afterwards. Posted by: junior at August 22, 2013 08:15 PM (UWFpX) If so, then they are dishonest, and vile. Take the job, ruin their wedding.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 22, 2013 04:17 PM (IXrOn)

156 150 Thanks again to Chief Justice Judas.Fuck you up the ass with an old telephone pole ,Roberts!

Posted by: steevy at August 22, 2013 04:18 PM (9XBK2)

157

Colorado baker faces year in jail for refusing to make cake for gay wedding

http://is.gd/nrruEF


Posted by: Jones in CO at August 22, 2013 04:18 PM (8sCoq)

158 Ron Paul and the Paultards are now pro-Badley Manning.
Fuck Ron Paul.
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at August 22, 2013 08:15 PM (ZPrif)




That's Chelsea Manning and Ru Paul, you cisnormative h8r

Posted by: mugiwara at August 22, 2013 04:18 PM (hpYnL)

159 Call in sick on short notice. Many ways to fuck over the liberal fascists. Right now, they are sowing their oats, feeling unstoppable. Very public with their condemnations of us.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at August 22, 2013 04:18 PM (ZPrif)

160

@155 If so, then they are dishonest, and vile.

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Yes, well, we're talking about people that are apparently willing to delay their wedding so that a lawsuit against a recalcitrant photographer can get settled first.  Remember, court cases typically don't happen the week after you file the suit...

 

Posted by: junior at August 22, 2013 04:18 PM (UWFpX)

161 Very very roughly speaking, how tall you can build. I don't see the value they expect to get. Are they saying that because their tenants are poor, they must build the homes lower?

Posted by: toby928© embraces the suck at August 22, 2013 04:19 PM (QupBk)

162   Another business to go stealth.  Just say you're booked full.   

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 22, 2013 08:12 PM (IXrOn)



Relative plays music for weddings and stuff as a home business, plus 4 kids.  

She has plausible deniability - "Kids have a camping trip that weekend, sorry I won't make it".  

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at August 22, 2013 04:20 PM (v3pYe)

163 What are 'air rights'?

I can fart anywhere, anytime without fear of retaliation.

Posted by: Low Information Voter at August 22, 2013 04:20 PM (Dwehj)

164 Colorado baker faces year in jail for refusing to make cake for gay wedding Here, a simple beating is up to a year in county so, in for a penny, in for a pound. The plaintiffs wouldn't sue me but once.

Posted by: toby928© embraces the suck at August 22, 2013 04:20 PM (QupBk)

165

I don't see the value they expect to get. Are they saying that because their tenants are poor, they must build the homes lower?

 

I am sure it is only a small portion of the total units they are looking to build on site.  So, add some low income units and get the variance you are looking for.

Posted by: garrett at August 22, 2013 04:20 PM (/Jg6b)

166 These liberal fascists and gay mafia types have businesses and reputations that can be destroyed, too. That's what they are doing. It's what the Left has always done.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at August 22, 2013 04:20 PM (ZPrif)

167 I'm not aware of any protection in the Constitution for religious *belief*. I am aware of one for religious *exercise*. Apparently the Founders got it wrong.

Posted by: PersonFromPorlock at August 22, 2013 04:21 PM (lILC0)

168 The problem is your freedom of speech ends at the fageles right to be offended.  Sorry.  You lose. 

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at August 22, 2013 04:21 PM (jucos)

169 NYC "Air Rights"

Like carbon credits only in reverse. With carbon credits if you pollute you have to buy 'credits' from someone who doesn't pollute.

With 'air rights' you have to buy the right to sunlight and air flow from someone who has it and not using it. Because buildings in NYC have a 'right' to air and sunlight, so if you are going to take that away from someone else, you have to negotiate a price for it.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/bjbtrm4
NYTimes article.

Posted by: Caffeine affected Reactionary at August 22, 2013 04:21 PM (h3fR3)

170 Since this is an open thread, does anyone know what came of Vic's doctor appointment? IIRC he received a cryptic message from the Dr's office several days ago but was going to have to wait to talk with the doc himself.

Posted by: Y-not at August 22, 2013 04:22 PM (5H6zj)

171 If so, then they are dishonest, and vile.  Take the job, ruin their wedding. 
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 22, 2013 08:17 PM (IXrOn)



Shabby t-shirt and jeans.   T-shirt says, "Where's the Groom/Bride?"   

I'm sure the Moron Horde can generate better slogans for that purpose. 

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at August 22, 2013 04:22 PM (sGtp+)

172

159...Very public with their condemnations of us.

 

While preaching that..."everyone should be tolerant of other people's views".

 

Leftists are the most intolerant people on the planet.

They have Zero Tolerance for anything resembling a conservative point of view.

 

Posted by: wheatie at August 22, 2013 04:22 PM (el7k2)

173 This is lawfare. The law as a weapon of war to destroy your enemy. Lawfare works both ways.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at August 22, 2013 04:23 PM (ZPrif)

174 169 In California other car companies pay the electric car manufactures to get electric car credits if they don't manufacture their own.

Posted by: steevy at August 22, 2013 04:24 PM (9XBK2)

175 The photographers should take pictures with "invisible cameras".

Imaginary cameras for a make-believe "wedding".

Posted by: Normal Regular Human Beings - 8000 BC to present at August 22, 2013 04:24 PM (EZl54)

176 I don't see the value they expect to get. Are they saying that because their tenants are poor, they must build the homes lower? Posted by: toby928© embraces the suck at August 22, 2013 08:19 PM (QupBk)

Heaven knows I don't know NYC building laws, at all, but my understanding is that in order to get a huge amount of tax breaks and variances on height, etc., they are going to build five stories worth of subsidized housing and then the expensive ones above them.   I am purely guessing here but I assume that the cheaper places are on the lower levels due to a combination of accessibility and because the higher you go the more expensive the units are.  

Basically, they are building two completely separate buildings but all in the same footprint.   Thus, two separate doors.  


I read somewhere that this builder has received tens if not hundreds of millions in tax breaks for doing similar things in the past.  

Posted by: alexthechick - Team SMOD at August 22, 2013 04:25 PM (Gk3SS)

177 Yeah, they could compromise their religious beliefs, or, you know, the gay couple could simply find another photographer. No, by all means, let's use the power of the state to reach as deeply as possible into people's lives instead of just telling the gay couple to "Look online for ten minutes and find someone else." This is really bothering me. It's like the Quebec douche who makes a living out of taking flights, and suing the airlines if the steward/ess does not speak French (even though he also speaks English). I hate these baiters. Not one of my gay friends would dare do something like this. They are simply living their lives like you and me. And, many are conservatives - who hate JEF. This makes all gay people look bad. The prog lefties scream CHOICE, but they are so full of sh*t.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 22, 2013 04:25 PM (IXrOn)

178 Biggest legal weapon the right has is mass lawsuits for anti-white discrimination and anti-Christian discrimination. Remember, you don't have to win. The process is the punishment. it's a PR campaign.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at August 22, 2013 04:25 PM (ZPrif)

179   159 Call in sick on short notice. Many ways to fuck over the liberal fascists. 

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at August 22, 2013 08:18 PM (ZPrif)



"Can I borrow my snotty nephew for a bit?  I need to be sick for this weekend."

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at August 22, 2013 04:25 PM (v3pYe)

180

Y-not...

I believe I read that Vic's okay...the doctor had some test readings that were a little 'off', or something.

Told him to get some exercise and watch his diet.

 

Posted by: wheatie at August 22, 2013 04:26 PM (el7k2)

181 >>The exact same thing happened with me and my smart, conservative and quite white brother-in-law (note the irony). One of the the things he was particularly incensed about was the fact that Tray Von Martin's burglary record was suppressed. He found that out from me. One of my alma maters is BU. As many know this was also where MLK jr. got his PhD and left a large legacy. As we come up on the anniversary of his I Have A Dream Speech, the most memorable parts of which were done extemporaneously amazingly enough, I would like to have a discussion about how his legacy has been hijacked by the left. >>I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character. I have a dream today. Let's have a discussion about that. Then we can talk about other things.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 22, 2013 04:26 PM (g1DWB)

182 Hehe - Sharknado is on again. Hmmm.. Should I watch that, or watch my toenails grow? Decisions, decisions

Posted by: shredded chi at August 22, 2013 04:27 PM (Ct4hC)

183 Leftists are the most intolerant people on the planet. They have Zero Tolerance for anything resembling a conservative point of view. Posted by: wheatie at August 22, 2013 08:22 PM (el7k2) I said this to my husband once, and he said, "that's not true, what do you mean?" And, I started listing... He went quiet.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 22, 2013 04:27 PM (IXrOn)

184 A 'compromise' between good and bad is not a positive thing.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at August 22, 2013 04:27 PM (aDwsi)

185 This is lawfare. The law as a weapon of war to destroy your enemy. Lawfare works both ways. Posted by: Flatbush Joe at August 22, 2013 08:23 PM (ZPrif) You know all those lefty and/or green investment companies, or banks that won't loan to gun stores? Sue 'em out of motherfucking existence. Turn the courts to granite with piles of lawsuits. Make it impossible for them to do anything. They mostly hurt people anyway these days.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at August 22, 2013 04:29 PM (qyfb5)

186 66 Well, we all know the military will fuck its own in a heartbeat if bigger politics must be served.

Posted by: T. at August 22, 2013 04:29 PM (IRAqv)

187 Boehner blocks shutdown...
http://tinyurl.com/knkys48
Tells GOP to fund government...
http://tinyurl.com/knkys48
http://www.drudgereport.com/

Posted by: caustic at August 22, 2013 04:30 PM (/b8+5)

188 While I have no problem with civil unions and am open to marriage (I just don't care that much), i have a big problem with judges using their position to push personal politics. Who does this bastard think he is?

Posted by: MTF at August 22, 2013 04:30 PM (ZuiHO)

189

@188While I have no problem with civil unions and am open to marriage (I just don't care that much), i have a big problem with judges using their position to push personal politics. Who does this bastard think he is?

---------------

 

Earl Warren jr.

 

Posted by: junior at August 22, 2013 04:31 PM (UWFpX)

190 Was it am unanimous decision?

Posted by: steevy at August 22, 2013 04:31 PM (9XBK2)

191 Oh, and BTW the gay stuff is only going to get worse. I don't think there really is a neutral sexual setting for society. It is either going to be heteronormative or homonormative (I don't know if that is actually a word), there is no in between and the elites/new class seem to have chosen homonormative for us.

WooHoo!

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living... at August 22, 2013 04:31 PM (E3gqr)

192 VDH, America the Trivial. This is what happens when kids are running the show.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 22, 2013 04:32 PM (IXrOn)

193

And, we see why the Left is consistantly changing the First Amendment to "Freedom of Worship" not "Religion." The former happens in a church. The latter throughout all your life in all circumstances. That is what they wish to forbid. No exercise of personal religous belief outside narrow confines.

What's worse, even if this ruling is unconstitutional, which I think it is, getting to such a reversal will cost huge amounts of money. This is designed to chill anyone from exercising their religious beliefs. Very few have those resources or the ability to close up shop during pending litigation.

 

Posted by: RS at August 22, 2013 04:32 PM (YAGV/)

194 Since this is an open thread, does anyone know what came of Vic's doctor appointment? IIRC he received a cryptic message from the Dr's office several days ago but was going to have to wait to talk with the doc himself. Posted by: Y-not
-----------------

Not quite in the same vein, but Jane D'oh hasn't posted in quite a while either.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at August 22, 2013 04:32 PM (aDwsi)

195 If a doctor wants to discontinue treating a patient, even one of long standing, all they have to do is write the patient a letter and they are discharged from the doctor's care.  Same with Lawyers.

Why can't a photographer have the same luxury?

Posted by: caustic at August 22, 2013 04:32 PM (/b8+5)

196 Was it am unanimous decision? Posted by: steevy at August 22, 2013 08:31 PM (9XBK2)


Yup. 



Posted by: alexthechick - Team SMOD at August 22, 2013 04:33 PM (Gk3SS)

197 "That sense of respect we owe others, whether or not we believe as they do, illuminates this country, setting it apart from the discord that afflicts much of the rest of the world. In short, I would say to the Huguenins, with the utmost respect: it is the price of citizenship.” They didn't demand a sense of respect. They demanded personal service. Which the government is not capable of compelling, and, it is time we prove it through revolt.

Posted by: Making Treason Pay at August 22, 2013 04:33 PM (R+cSS)

198 I think Vic got his test results and he was okay.IIRC

Posted by: steevy at August 22, 2013 04:33 PM (9XBK2)

199 196 I figured it was or we'd get the dissent.

Posted by: steevy at August 22, 2013 04:34 PM (9XBK2)

200 Hehe - Sharknado is on again.

Oh shit! I completely forgot Ghost Shark was on tonight!

Posted by: Methos at August 22, 2013 04:35 PM (hO9ad)

201 "Manhattan developer Extell is seeking millions in air rights and tax
breaks for building 55 low-income units at 40 Riverside Boulevard. . ."

Posted by: Caffeine affected Reactionary at August 22, 2013 08:13 PM (h3fR3)


To explain it a bit further, the low income housing units are subsidized units. The city pays the developer to build them. They are in 'the back of the building' away from the view of the river and will have a separate entrance off the 'back alley'.

Quite possibly being walled off from the rest of the building. There is also some kind of deal with other buildings.

This is the next step from Obama's zip code data, or the data base his administration is building to catalog the characteristics of any one particular neighborhood to see it a certain demographic is being denied the opportunity to reside at that location. It's his 'regionalism' initiative because White Flight Destroyed Detroit.


So if you people won't go to the grittier parts of your community, Obama's administration will bring those parts of your city to your neighborhood because that's the only way to make it fair for everyone.


Posted by: Caffeine affected Reactionary at August 22, 2013 04:35 PM (h3fR3)

202 Not quite in the same vein, but Jane D'oh hasn't posted in quite a while either. ----- I think she was in one of the previous threads for a moment.

Posted by: Adam at August 22, 2013 04:36 PM (Aif/5)

203 The Left will back off when the Right starts destroying their lives the way they destroy ours. Key is to bait them into anti-white and anti-Christians statements and acts, and then sue the ever loving fuck out of them.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at August 22, 2013 04:36 PM (ZPrif)

204 isn't this judge's ruling an official government endorsement of a sexual preference?

Posted by: Jones in CO at August 22, 2013 04:37 PM (8sCoq)

205 Oh shit! I completely forgot Ghost Shark was on tonight!
Posted by: Methos at August 22, 2013 08:35 PM (hO9ad)



Yes.   Yes, it is.  

Posted by: alexthechick - Team SMOD at August 22, 2013 04:37 PM (Gk3SS)

206

As I have mentioned before, the solution for the photographer is a simple one.

-  Insist on full payment up front. 

-  Take pictures of the event, but ensure that they are all out of focus or poorly composed.

-  Declare an equipment malfunction, but refuse to reimburse the clients due to expenses you incurred during the shoot.

 

Special moment = Ruined.

Posted by: TXMarko at August 22, 2013 04:37 PM (UZNvX)

207 And then there's this newest horror that we won't be discussing in the National Discussion on Race. This makes me sick to my stomach. I just want to scream.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 22, 2013 04:37 PM (IXrOn)

208

@202Not quite in the same vein, but Jane D'oh hasn't posted in quite a while either.
-----

I think she was in one of the previous threads for a moment.

-----------

 

She was in this thread, actually.  See @47, among others.

 

Posted by: junior at August 22, 2013 04:38 PM (UWFpX)

209 202 Not quite in the same vein, but Jane D'oh hasn't posted in quite a while either.
----- 

I think she was in one of the previous threads for a moment. 
Posted by: Adam at August 22, 2013 08:36 PM (Aif/5)



She's in this thread.   Eyes up there! 

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at August 22, 2013 04:38 PM (v3pYe)

210 Posted by: wheatie at August 22, 2013 08:26 PM ( Thank goodness.

Posted by: Y-not at August 22, 2013 04:38 PM (5H6zj)

211 Lesson learned:  Forced Labor is Shitty Quality Labor.

Posted by: TXMarko at August 22, 2013 04:38 PM (UZNvX)

212 You guys are doing just great!


Posted by: Zombie Caesar Nero at August 22, 2013 04:39 PM (EZl54)

213 In the meantime, forgive me for my angry shit a couple of weeks ago.


Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 22, 2013 07:44 PM (lVPtV)



Jane, all I have for you is big hugs.  I think we can all understand your frustration and anger.

Posted by: DangerGirl, full of sweet rage at August 22, 2013 04:39 PM (GrtrJ)

214 Is chemjeff still around? I haven't seen much from him except a semi-recent post that sounded unhappy by the let it burn stuff.

Posted by: Y-not at August 22, 2013 04:39 PM (5H6zj)

215 NO GUNS were involved in that poor vet's beating. No guns. Michelle Malkin was just arguing about how clueless the left is on this. Go at it Michelle.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 22, 2013 04:39 PM (IXrOn)

216 What is the photographer's equivalent of a waiter spittng on a cheeseburger?

Posted by: Rusty Culvert at August 22, 2013 04:40 PM (qXUnq)

217

whenever you have angry shit, give it to Jane Fonda

 

or any kind of shit really

Posted by: thunderb at August 22, 2013 04:40 PM (zOTsN)

218 O/T but I'm seriously sickened and heartbroken at the headline story at Drudge.  My heart breaks for that old man.  WTF is going on in this country!?!? 

Posted by: Lady in Black, in a dead thread talking to myself at August 22, 2013 04:40 PM (XB5Ak)

219 Key is to bait them into anti-white and anti-Christians statements and acts, and then sue the ever loving fuck out of them.

Yeah, because their courts are going to stick up for Americans.

Posted by: Methos at August 22, 2013 04:40 PM (hO9ad)

220 >What is the photographer's equivalent of a waiter spittng on a cheeseburger?

Posted by: Rusty Culvert at August 22, 2013 08:40 PM (qXUnq)



poor focus

Posted by: Jones in CO at August 22, 2013 04:41 PM (8sCoq)

221 Welcome to the Left's America, where the only right you have is to do as they say.

Posted by: cormac_mcroadie at August 22, 2013 04:41 PM (4HsUp)

222 People are going to start snapping, and I can't wait for it to happen.

Posted by: Jeepers at August 22, 2013 04:42 PM (XDRsa)

223 << No, by all means, let's use the power of the state to reach as deeply as possible into people's lives instead of just telling the gay couple to "Look online for ten minutes and find someone else.">>

Yeah, but you know that isn't the intent.

Any excuse to force the Gay Agenda...any little lawsuit that will find a sympathetic, activist judge...

We are not far off from churches and pastors being forced to conduct gay marriages against their beliefs.

I am beginning to regret my "live and let live" attitude regarding the homosexual community.

Posted by: SGT. York at August 22, 2013 04:42 PM (XgBat)

224 Gay marriage has nothing to do with marriage. Hold on, its only going to get worse.

Posted by: puddleglum at August 22, 2013 04:42 PM (D1p3J)

225 Relative plays music for weddings and stuff as a home business, plus 4 kids. She has plausible deniability - "Kids have a camping trip that weekend, sorry I won't make it". Posted by: ConservativeMonster at August 22, 2013 08:20 PM (v3pYe) She should play "Dueling Banjos"

Posted by: BignJames at August 22, 2013 04:42 PM (j7iSn)

226 If only the sheeps had Boehner masks on, and McCain masks, and Graham masks. If only...

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 22, 2013 04:42 PM (IXrOn)

227 In regards to the gay couple story, frankly I'd like to think that they'll push and push until the public has a huge backlash.

But 2012 kind of reset my thinking about this country.  I think we'll be repeatedly subjugated until we are slaves to the state.  I hate to think that, but the majority of this country doesn't care any more.

Posted by: DangerGirl, full of sweet rage at August 22, 2013 04:42 PM (GrtrJ)

228 What is the photographer's equivalent of a waiter spittng on a cheeseburger?

Ever see that episode of the Flintstones when Fred gets his thumb perfectly centered in every shot?

Posted by: Methos at August 22, 2013 04:43 PM (hO9ad)

229 but that's a great solution for the photographer

take the job, fuck it up, then refund their money


the standard implied warranty of any photographic service is basically limited to refund and replacement cost of materials

Posted by: Jones in CO at August 22, 2013 04:43 PM (8sCoq)

230 O/T but I'm seriously sickened and heartbroken at the headline story at Drudge. My heart breaks for that old man. WTF is going on in this country!?!? Posted by: Lady in Black, in a dead thread talking to myself at August 22, 2013 08:40 PM (XB5Ak) Post racial President my ass. I've never seen race relations so shitty and headed south also

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 22, 2013 04:43 PM (jE38p)

231 This court ruling is exhibit A in why non-Western nations should trust Western Progressive elites at their peril. Despite claims to the contrary, they will eventually try to make your culture a kingdom of Mongo, ruled over by them. Embrace greater formal global governmental ties at your cultural peril.

Posted by: T. at August 22, 2013 04:43 PM (mwKH2)

232 I think the left will regret spending so much time and energy on St Trayvon.  This is not the populace you want people looking at too closely, the young black thug populace

Posted by: thunderb at August 22, 2013 04:43 PM (zOTsN)

233 WTF is going on in this country!?!?

And the beast shall rise out of the pit and with all his armies make war on heaven.

Posted by: Some red-eyed Ood at August 22, 2013 04:44 PM (hO9ad)

234 Is ther any law says the photog can't wear a T shirt with Leviticus 20:13 front and back? Just askin'.

Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at August 22, 2013 04:44 PM (uxi9i)

235 The vast majority of inter-racial crime is black-on-white. Especially rape. 2001-2003 there were 15,000 black on white rapes. 2001-2003 there were only 900 white on black rapes.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at August 22, 2013 04:44 PM (ZPrif)

236 What is the photographer's equivalent of a waiter spittng on a cheeseburger? Posted by: Rusty Culvert at August 22, 2013 08:40 PM (qXUnq) poor focus Posted by: Jones in CO at August 22, 2013 08:41 PM (8sCoq) bad compositions probably wouldn't bring another lawsuit on top of them bad focus and double images would

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 22, 2013 04:44 PM (IXrOn)

237 Yuck, free on Kindle a book on how to turn yourself into a viral sensation...
http://tinyurl.com/lamxvkx

I will pass since I have no urge to become a Kardashian.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 22, 2013 04:44 PM (xDfWx)

238 There's over 40 black-on-white rapes in America every day.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at August 22, 2013 04:45 PM (ZPrif)

239

bad compositions probably wouldn't bring another lawsuit on top of them

bad focus and double images would

-------------

 

Plus, everyone uses digital equipment these days for photography.  That means that you can review the picture immediately after you take it.  Or in other words, there's no excuse for not knowing that you "accidentally" underexposed that last picture.

 

Posted by: junior at August 22, 2013 04:47 PM (UWFpX)

240 Gay people really are the most vicious, hateful people you will ever meet.

The media portrays them as just wanting to live their life in "dignity".  As if they they were being stoned all the time because they want to suck cock.  If they want tolerance, how about respecting people's religious beliefs.

If they start forcing this shit on Churches, you're going to see bullets flying.

Posted by: Jeepers at August 22, 2013 04:48 PM (XDRsa)

241 bad compositions probably wouldn't bring another lawsuit on top of them bad focus and double images would ------------- Plus, everyone uses digital equipment these days for photography. That means that you can review the picture immediately after you take it. Or in other words, there's no excuse for not knowing that you "accidentally" underexposed that last picture. Posted by: junior at August 22, 2013 08:47 PM (UWFpX) Take great- superb pictures- Museum quality. Just don't have the bride-bride or groom-groom in any of them

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 22, 2013 04:48 PM (jE38p)

242

@236 Artisanal 'ette

Which shows how insidious this is. Not only is one forced to work, inviolation of the 1st and 13th Amendments, but one will get sued if everything is not perfect. Not only to these shits get to stick their thumbs in the eyes of religious people, they're trying to get free wedding photos, too.

Posted by: RS at August 22, 2013 04:48 PM (YAGV/)

243 Personally I can't wait until our new Gay Overlords meet our new Islamic Overlords. I welcome them both with open arms and popcorn.

Posted by: hobbes at August 22, 2013 04:49 PM (dfwJa)

244 So, anyone happen to know any of these judges email addresses or anything?  Like their personal ones?  How about their families email addresses and names...or where they work/go to school.  You know...that kind of thing.

Posted by: Gman at August 22, 2013 04:49 PM (UkbKS)

245 remember one of Alinsky's 'rules for radicals' is 'force the enemy to live up to their own rules'



fine

every time a white person is a victim of a crime perpetrated by a black person, it's a black on white hate crime and why aren't the authorities addressing this dangerous racial climate and is is open season on white people now?

Posted by: Jones in CO at August 22, 2013 04:49 PM (8sCoq)

246 Gay people really are the most vicious, hateful people you will ever meet. The media portrays them as just wanting to live their life in "dignity". As if they they were being stoned all the time because they want to suck cock. If they want tolerance, how about respecting people's religious beliefs. If they start forcing this shit on Churches, you're going to see bullets flying. Posted by: Jeepers at August 22, 2013 08:48 PM (XDRsa) who would want a photographer/restaurant/ yada yada yada who doesn't want you? They were looking to sue someone. Happens everyday. fucked up shit

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 22, 2013 04:49 PM (jE38p)

247 bad compositions probably wouldn't bring another lawsuit on top of them

---

Oh yes they would. If these knuckleheads sued instead of simply finding another photographer, they'll sue if the pics aren't exactly what they "feel" they should be.

Posted by: Retread at August 22, 2013 04:49 PM (Oz+LZ)

248 Actually, you know what, fuck the judges. what are the names of the happy couple.

Posted by: Gman at August 22, 2013 04:50 PM (UkbKS)

249 We have to play the legal game too. Never say why you decline their business, or say, sure, I'll photograph your wedding, $100,000 paid up front.

Posted by: real joe at August 22, 2013 04:50 PM (5wsCu)

250 Plus, everyone uses digital equipment these days for photography. That means that you can review the picture immediately after you take it. Or in other words, there's no excuse for not knowing that you "accidentally" underexposed that last picture.

Golly, gee, it seems my memory card went bad. After I microwaved it a couple seconds.

Posted by: Clever American photographer at August 22, 2013 04:51 PM (hO9ad)

251 Right, the answer is to go alinsky on their asses. Nothing illegals. You stay within the law but use every legal means possible to ruin their lives. That's what the gay mafia is doing here.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at August 22, 2013 04:51 PM (ZPrif)

252

According to Drudge, Obama is meeting with bisexuals next month in a closed door meeting.  WTH issues could bisexuals have that aren't covered by gays or straights? 

 

Polygamy is coming ladies and gentlemen, and quicker than you think.  I'd say less than five years, and by the end of this administration if they can help it along.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at August 22, 2013 04:51 PM (lr3d7)

253 Can't stand this crap with gays. I never had problem with them, did not bother them. Now they bother me, demanding my approval and, yes,  participation in their lifestyles. Gay marriage is a bridge too far. I cannot endorse it. As an adherent of the Catholic view in which marriage is nothing less than a Holy Sacrament, ordained by God Himself, I cannot bring myself into harmony with the idea of gay marriage in any way shape or form. This asks too much of me, and I simply will not do it. To gays I say have your gay relationships, as you did before, and leave me alone. Do not force my views into your bedroom!

Posted by: Cowboy at August 22, 2013 04:52 PM (m5TOl)

254 no, if you fuck up a photo gig, you can't be sued for missing the pictures that 'might have been'

the client's only relief is not to pay you

Posted by: Jones in CO at August 22, 2013 04:52 PM (8sCoq)

255 Oh yes they would. If these knuckleheads sued instead of simply finding another photographer, they'll sue if the pics aren't exactly what they "feel" they should be.

--

Then photographers should show up in the most outlandish, and embarrassing costume imaginable.  Dirty overalls, barefoot, clown makeup, and BAD, BAD body odor.

Posted by: Lady in Black, in a dead thread talking to myself at August 22, 2013 04:52 PM (XB5Ak)

256 May it rain on their wedding day.

Posted by: toby928© says Thinner! at August 22, 2013 04:52 PM (QupBk)

257 SPOKANE, Wash. -

WWII veteran Delbert Belton survived being wounded in action during the Battle of Okinawa only to be beaten and left for dead by two teens at the Eagles Lodge in Spokane on Wednesday evening.

Belton, 89, died from the injuries he suffered in the beating Thursday morning at Sacred Heart Medical Center.

http://tinyurl.com/mqu9pea


Jesse frowned.



Posted by: LC LaWedgie at August 22, 2013 04:53 PM (6xhLc)

258 Oh, and expect a lawsuit soon because a devout believer declined to attend a gay coworker's wedding.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at August 22, 2013 04:54 PM (lr3d7)

259 In Texas, Stedman is messing with them...every single day a new reason to freak out. Hard to keep up with the corrupt administration. You almost need a running list to update daily. So, DOJ and US now suing Texas for their state law and the ignoring judgment of Supreme Court:

"A federal court in Washington blocked the Texas law in August 2012, but its ruling was undone in June when the U.S. Supreme Court struck down part of the 1965 Voting Rights Act.

"We will not allow the Supreme Court's recent decision to be interpreted as open season for states to pursue measures that suppress voting rights," U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder said in a statement.

Separately, the Justice Department filed a motion to intervene as a plaintiff in a Texas redistricting lawsuit brought on behalf of minority voters."


http://tinyurl.com/kjfc9ys


Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Queen of something and wears tiara. Deal with it. at August 22, 2013 04:54 PM (baL2B)

260 According to Drudge, Obama is meeting with bisexuals next month in a closed door meeting.

--

Barry is seriously and bizarrely obsessed with gay/sexual issues. 

Posted by: Lady in Black, in a dead thread talking to myself at August 22, 2013 04:54 PM (XB5Ak)

261 Right now, only low class whites complain about black-on-white crime. To admit it concerns you is to admit you are too poor to insulate yourself from it.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at August 22, 2013 04:54 PM (ZPrif)

262 240 Gay people really are the most vicious, hateful people you will ever meet. Posted by: Jeepers at August 22, 2013 08:48 PM (XDRsa) Not necessarily. See my #146. Only some of them are like that. Others just want to keep to themselves and not make waves.

Posted by: rickl at August 22, 2013 04:54 PM (sdi6R)

263 243. Should be an interesting show

Posted by: Me at August 22, 2013 04:54 PM (xGDj+)

264 Geeze. On O'Reilly they showed some video from a 'Mushroom Rally' at Telluride.

Doofuspaloosa.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at August 22, 2013 04:55 PM (aDwsi)

265 A businesswoman forced to perform a service against her will, and a hero beaten to death by individuals whose actions will be ignored and rationalized owing to the color of their skin. 

The most perfect summations of America 2013.

Posted by: Hawkins1701 at August 22, 2013 04:55 PM (q7YYY)

266 If I hire you for $500 to photograph the night sky for 6 hours in the hope of getting a good photo of a UFO, and you return with just pictures of pretty stars, I can't sue you for $1,000,000 because my dream of having a great UFO photo has been dashed. My relief is limited to the $500 fee I paid you, and I'd be hard-pressed to get that back.

Posted by: Jones in CO at August 22, 2013 04:56 PM (8sCoq)

267 We have to play the legal game too. Never say why you decline their business, or say, sure, I'll photograph your wedding, $100,000 paid up front. Posted by: real joe at August 22, 2013 08:50 PM (5wsCu) Exactly. The photographer made the mistake of trying to work with them, and expressing their beliefs. That is what I meant by stealth earlier. Never offer information. Ever. And, never get personal in business.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 22, 2013 04:56 PM (IXrOn)

268
Barry is seriously and bizarrely obsessed with gay/sexual issues.

Posted by: Lady in Black, in a dead thread talking to myself at August 22, 2013 08:54 PM (XB5Ak)

 

It's the left in general.  You see, what they want is to attack and destroy every vestige of traditional morality and every ritual, tradition, and custom in society.  Partly this is out of a desire to lash out, and partly this is due to a desire to rebuild a socialist paradise from the wreckage.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at August 22, 2013 04:56 PM (lr3d7)

269 The killing of Christopher Lee is to be frowned upon.

Posted by: Jessi Jackson Tweets at August 22, 2013 04:56 PM (Aif/5)

270 May it rain on their wedding day.

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Heh, it poured on my wedding day.  I think it's supposedly a good sign to have a rainy wedding day. 

May it rain locusts on their wedding day.  There, that's better. 

Posted by: Lady in Black, in a dead thread talking to myself at August 22, 2013 04:57 PM (XB5Ak)

271 LIsten people come into my dental office for treatment and then proceed to act like total assholes and make me uncomfortable and pissed off right before I start drilling. I mean some people are just total assholes and idiots. Oh and I do sometimes add a "liberal" or "asshole" surcharge

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 22, 2013 04:57 PM (jE38p)

272 You can't compel someone to take pictures of you. 

Slavery?  Anyone?  the gay thing has no bearing, the decision requires pitchforks, torches, and about 200 feet of rope.

Posted by: tangonine at August 22, 2013 04:57 PM (x3YFz)

273

Barry is seriously and bizarrely obsessed with gay/sexual issues.

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Yes, and no.  Remember that he was originally a hateful bigot *cough* with regards to SSM until Biden forced his hand late in his first term.

 

Yes, he was probably planning on "evolving" his view anyway, but the general concensus is that Biden triggered it earlier than Obama wanted.  So for Obama, this has been a recent thing.  But he's done a LOT in that very brief period of time.

 

Posted by: junior at August 22, 2013 04:57 PM (UWFpX)

274 Exactly. The photographer made the mistake of trying to work with them, and expressing their beliefs. That is what I meant by stealth earlier. Never offer information. Ever. And, never get personal in business. Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 22, 2013 08:56 PM (IXrOn) Now a days you can NOT always tell the truth.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 22, 2013 04:58 PM (jE38p)

275 272 You can't compel someone to take pictures of you. Slavery? Anyone? the gay thing has no bearing, the decision requires pitchforks, torches, and about 200 feet of rope. Posted by: tangonine at August 22, 2013 08:57 PM (x3YFz) It's a tax.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at August 22, 2013 04:58 PM (GEICT)

276 271 LIsten people come into my dental office for treatment and then proceed to act like total assholes and make me uncomfortable and pissed off right before I start drilling. I mean some people are just total assholes and idiots. Oh and I do sometimes add a "liberal" or "asshole" surcharge

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 22, 2013 08:57 PM (jE38p)

I salute you, sir!

Posted by: tangonine at August 22, 2013 04:58 PM (x3YFz)

277 Barry is seriously and bizarrely obsessed with gay/sexual issues.
Posted by: Lady in Black,
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That is because he is disproportionately effected by gheys. Ghey base, ghey money, ghey political influence, ghey entertainment interests.

The truth is we are all disproportionately effected by gheys, and for all of the same reasons.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at August 22, 2013 04:58 PM (aDwsi)

278

@267 'Ette

The problem with that strategy is that many of these people will lie about their "fiance" in order to get the photographer. S/he won't know until s/he shows up.  Then it's too late.

 

Posted by: RS at August 22, 2013 04:59 PM (YAGV/)

279 So do we get to start referring to MLK as, the "openly bigoted" MLK? He was opposed to gay marriage. Hell, he was opposed to homosexuality in all forms. Known bigot Martin Luther King. Proud homophobe Martin Luther King. Gay-hating scumbag, Martin Luther King.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at August 22, 2013 04:59 PM (ZPrif)

280
What was that shake?  Oh...just Atlas starting his shrug.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 22, 2013 04:59 PM (uX+Qq)

281 If you're wet, you're dead.

This is going to be so gloriously awful

Posted by: Methos at August 22, 2013 05:00 PM (hO9ad)

282 There's already a price of citizenship. That's the price the IRS levies against wages earned abroad.

Posted by: Anthony Weiner at August 22, 2013 05:00 PM (d7tB2)

283 /soc

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at August 22, 2013 05:00 PM (d7tB2)

284 He hired Kevin Jennings as safe school czar, the top white shoe law firms, scramble to defend Gitmo terrorists, but you had to pull teeth to get anyone to challenge Obamacare,

Posted by: Raymond Luxury Yacht at August 22, 2013 05:00 PM (Jsiw/)

285 Just want to say, our son who has served his county is dealing with SHIT YOU WILL NOT BELIEVE.

Once he's home I'll tell you how his host country treated him as he's tried to leave.

Our government can't help him.

He's fucked.

Angry/Sad Mom.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 22, 2013 05:00 PM (lVPtV)

286 >>"We will not allow the Supreme Court's recent decision to be interpreted as open season for states to pursue measures that suppress voting rights," U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder said in a statement. Separately, the Justice Department filed a motion to intervene as a plaintiff in a Texas redistricting lawsuit brought on behalf of minority voters." They are starting to come undone. Obama's approval ratings are headed straight down and nobody is really afraid if this lame dick, ur duck, anymore. I'm starting to think we could run a warmed over turd next election and win in a walk. People are getting tired of this race baiting, foreign policy disaster, economically ignorant, freedom abusing disaster of a joke of a government. Bring on Hillary. Can't wait to see her carry the water for another 4 years of this garbage.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 22, 2013 05:01 PM (g1DWB)

287 Malcolm X was a proud racist. Malcolm X's reputation should be easy to destroy since he was pretty open about his hatred for all white people.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at August 22, 2013 05:01 PM (ZPrif)

288 LIsten people come into my dental office for treatment and then proceed
to act like total assholes and make me uncomfortable and pissed off
right before I start drilling. I mean some people are just total
assholes and idiots. Oh and I do sometimes add a "liberal" or "asshole"
surcharge

Posted by: Nevergiveup
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Um..., any extra charge for squirming..., or gargling noises? By the way..., I miss those porcelain spit-bowls.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at August 22, 2013 05:01 PM (aDwsi)

289 "If I wanted any lip from you, I'd pull down you're panties"

That just happened (on Syfy)

Posted by: Methos at August 22, 2013 05:01 PM (hO9ad)

290 Flatbush, I think you are off by a factor of 40K or so? 160 million whites raped by this admin daily...

Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at August 22, 2013 05:01 PM (GScn4)

291 Just want to say, our son who has served his county is dealing with SHIT YOU WILL NOT BELIEVE. Once he's home I'll tell you how his host country treated him as he's tried to leave. Our government can't help him. He's fucked. Angry/Sad Mom. Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 22, 2013 09:00 PM (lVPtV) You have my email. Write me if there is anything I can do

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 22, 2013 05:02 PM (jE38p)

292 how is the judge forcing the photographer to serve the gay couple NOT indentured servitude?

Posted by: Jones in CO at August 22, 2013 05:02 PM (8sCoq)

293 Oh my gosh, Jane.  Whatever it is, it doesn't sound good. I'll keep him in my prayers. 

Posted by: Lady in Black, in a dead thread talking to myself at August 22, 2013 05:02 PM (XB5Ak)

294 Of course, Muhammad was a proud slave-trade, murderer, and pedophile and his reputation seems impervious to facts.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at August 22, 2013 05:02 PM (ZPrif)

295 LIsten people come into my dental office for treatment and then proceed to act like total assholes and make me uncomfortable and pissed off right before I start drilling. I mean some people are just total assholes and idiots. :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: You'd have to be an idiot asshole to irk the dentist before he drills. "Is it safe?" iYKWIMAITYD

Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at August 22, 2013 05:02 PM (uxi9i)

296 Sheep: Is this funny? I couldn't understand a thing being said (admittedly, I need new speakers). Waste of time. Want a refund on my 1:21 * 2 (for the Mrs).

Posted by: mindful webworker - just got back and find this!?! at August 22, 2013 05:02 PM (U13jb)

297 And now in SyFy is Ghost Shark.  Orca Winfrey unavailable for comment.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 22, 2013 05:02 PM (xDfWx)

298
That is because he is disproportionately effected by gheys. Ghey base, ghey money, ghey political influence, ghey entertainment interests.

The truth is we are all disproportionately effected by gheys, and for all of the same reasons.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at August 22, 2013 08:58 PM (aDwsi)

Well, duh.  Dude's gayer than Top Model, but just doesn't have the balls to admit it.

I don't care if someone's gay, just don't be a pu**y about it.

Posted by: tangonine at August 22, 2013 05:03 PM (x3YFz)

299 Then it's too late.

Oops....sorry I just got a case of the runs, I'll have to run.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 22, 2013 05:03 PM (uX+Qq)

300 Um..., any extra charge for squirming..., or gargling noises? By the way..., I miss those porcelain spit-bowls. Posted by: Mike Hammer at August 22, 2013 09:01 PM (aDwsi) Nah I understand hating being in the dental chair. Shit I hate it also. We have porcelian spitters in every room. Just don't piss in the spitter or on me

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 22, 2013 05:03 PM (jE38p)

301 He hired Kevin Jennings as safe school czar,

Mr. Fisting-for-kindergartners. Don't remind me.

Posted by: Methos at August 22, 2013 05:03 PM (hO9ad)

302 This country is going to shit.

Posted by: CDR M at August 22, 2013 05:04 PM (dKV5k)

303 LIsten people come into my dental office for treatment and then proceed to act like total assholes and make me uncomfortable and pissed off right before I start drilling. I mean some people are just total assholes and idiots. Oh and I do sometimes add a "liberal" or "asshole" surcharge Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 22, 2013 08:57 PM (jE38p) Hehe, we'd probably be talking so much that you wouldn't get my mouth still enough to work on it. I just had a cleaning this past week. My dentist is so pushy about trying to get me in every 6 months for a cleaning. Yet, he knew I had zero cavities after not going to a dentist in 8 years. And, still don't. I do not need the 6 month cleaning. I keep my teeth pretty clean. I go when I want. Once a year.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 22, 2013 05:04 PM (IXrOn)

304 Late to the party. Reading about NM just made my sad day sadder. God have mercy on us.

Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at August 22, 2013 05:04 PM (HVff2)

305 Barry's opposition to gay marriage was always a lie. Always. His supporters knew it, particularly one idiot, Anne Hathaway. Remember, she was an early and vocal supporter of The One and her chief issue is gay marriage (motivated by her gay brother). She boycotted Obama's first inaugural because Rick Warren led off with the prayer, citing Warren's opposition to gay marriage. It was pointed out to her that Warren's stance was, at the time, identical to Obama's. But she wasn't fooled. She knew Obama's was a lie to get elected, and she suspected Warren's opposition was genuine. And she was 100% right on that part about Obama's stance being a lie. Telegraphed from day one to the gay lobby by the Obama campaign. Just like Obama and Medeyev. "Just wait till I get elected, then I'll have more freedom to maneuver."

Posted by: Cowboy at August 22, 2013 05:04 PM (m5TOl)

306 You'd have to be an idiot asshole to irk the dentist before he drills. "Is it safe?" iYKWIMAITYD Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at August 22, 2013 09:02 PM (uxi9i) You'd be surprised how stupid some people are

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 22, 2013 05:04 PM (jE38p)

307 222 People are going to start snapping, and I can't wait for it to happen. Posted by: Jeepers at August 22, 2013 08:42 PM (XDRsa) I can. Invariably, some innocents will be involved. I and many that I love are wearing the opposing "uniform" under such conditions. Then comes another vicious circle, spun by the leftist infiltrated media. Here what I wrote about it here and other places. "The Left has long indoctrinated anger into black people. Now it's your turn, non-black people, and why shouldn't you be angry? That said, when white persons have finally had enough of this, you all will take care of it. That's when the Organized Left aka our federal government will ride in and become the "savior" of black persons. It is then that the real persecution and bondage will begin--for all of us, regardless of color. Pray without ceasing. Jesus the Christ is our only hope. Always has been."

Posted by: baldilocks at August 22, 2013 05:04 PM (Tnlh/)

308 0bama strikes me as a guy who's had a penis in his mouth at some point in his life

Posted by: Jones in CO at August 22, 2013 05:05 PM (8sCoq)

309 This country is going to shit.

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I think we're already at the near bottom of the vat.  I welcome our new excrement overlords.

Posted by: Lady in Black, in a dead thread talking to myself at August 22, 2013 05:05 PM (XB5Ak)

310 Yet, he knew I had zero cavities after not going to a dentist in 8 years. And, still don't. Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 22, 2013 09:04 PM (IXrOn) i hate you

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at August 22, 2013 05:05 PM (qyfb5)

311 Jane - At any rate, good to see you here. You absence was noted.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at August 22, 2013 05:05 PM (aDwsi)

312 302 This country is going to shit. Posted by: CDR M at August 22, 2013 09:04 PM (dKV5k) Wrong tense.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at August 22, 2013 05:06 PM (GEICT)

313 Yet, he knew I had zero cavities after not going to a dentist in 8 years. And, still don't.
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Genes

Posted by: Mike Hammer at August 22, 2013 05:06 PM (aDwsi)

314 279 So do we get to start referring to MLK as, the "openly bigoted" MLK? He was opposed to gay marriage. Hell, he was opposed to homosexuality in all forms. Posted by: Flatbush Joe at August 22, 2013 08:59 PM (ZPrif) -------------------------- I guess we can call MLK a homophobic hater right around the time we can call Cesar Chavez a raaaaacist bigot because he vehemently opposed illegal immigration.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 22, 2013 05:06 PM (C8mVl)

315

@307 Baldi,

Good words, especially the last sentence.

 

Posted by: RS at August 22, 2013 05:06 PM (YAGV/)

316 It is then that the real persecution and bondage will begin--for all of us, regardless of color. Posted by: baldilocks at August 22, 2013 09:04 PM (Tnlh/) It is kind of like watching people get the train stopped just barely in time, then get out and push it over the cliff.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at August 22, 2013 05:07 PM (qyfb5)

317 310 Yet, he knew I had zero cavities after not going to a dentist in 8 years. And, still don't.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 22, 2013 09:04 PM (IXrOn)

How is this even possible.

Posted by: SarahW at August 22, 2013 05:07 PM (LYwCh)

318

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at August 22, 2013 09:05 PM (qyfb5)

 

Have you considered a new dentist?

My wife switched and after having a cavity almost every year has not had one since.

I think her dentist was just an over aggressive "fill every little dent" type.

Posted by: tsrblke at August 22, 2013 05:07 PM (GaqMa)

319 Glad to see you Mrs. D'Oh. Sorry to hear that D'Oh Boy is going through some shit. You just gotta understand, he's now a potential domestic terrorist according to the govt.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at August 22, 2013 05:07 PM (GEICT)

320 Somebody might have already aded something to this effect, but does this mean Quakers will be forced to join the military?

Posted by: roman10s at August 22, 2013 05:08 PM (Iviut)

321 Blacks get a pass on "homophobia". We are to understand it's a cultural thing. Mormons and Catholics, however, don't.

Posted by: Cowboy at August 22, 2013 05:08 PM (m5TOl)

322 Well there is the suggestion that tooth decay may in fact be a curable disorder. If we survive ten years we will probably have the chance to be much happier and healthier people. If we don't catch fire.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at August 22, 2013 05:08 PM (qyfb5)

323 You'd be surprised how stupid some people are

Yes.

Posted by: Low Information Voter at August 22, 2013 05:08 PM (Dwehj)

324 The media is the enemy.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at August 22, 2013 05:08 PM (ZPrif)

325 I've never had a cavity. Go to the dentist maybe every three, four years.

Posted by: mugiwara at August 22, 2013 05:09 PM (hpYnL)

326
Doofuspaloosa.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at August 22, 2013 08:55 PM (aDwsi)


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Heh.

Posted by: Craig Poe at August 22, 2013 05:09 PM (BVkEs)

327 I freely admit to being a total pussy about going to the dentist. It comes from when I was a kid (one of many in my family) and novacain cost extra. So we didn't get it. I need 15 mg of valium to sit in the waitng room. Marathon Man gave me nightmares for a week.

Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at August 22, 2013 05:09 PM (uxi9i)

328
It's a tax. Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at August 22, 2013 08:58 PM (GEICT)



*waves*

Posted by: alexthechick - Team SMOD at August 22, 2013 05:09 PM (Gk3SS)

329 287 Malcolm X was a proud racist. Malcolm X's reputation should be easy to destroy since he was pretty open about his hatred for all white people. Posted by: Flatbush Joe at August 22, 2013 09:01 PM (ZPrif) The way I've heard it is that after he went on his pilgrimage to Mecca, he saw that there were Muslims of all races and colors, and after that he tempered his earlier "white devil" talk. Then he was assassinated.

Posted by: rickl at August 22, 2013 05:09 PM (sdi6R)

330 Have you considered a new dentist? Posted by: tsrblke at August 22, 2013 09:07 PM (GaqMa) Had several. No difference. I have more that one pre-existing condition that tends to weaken teeth anyway, and seem to have a genetic predilection anyway.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at August 22, 2013 05:09 PM (qyfb5)

331 Need to go watch something funny for the evening. This thread had some deeply depressing links I have to shake off. Plus, hubby back from a run, so ...

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 22, 2013 05:09 PM (IXrOn)

332 I have zero fillings/cavities as well. I hope my kids have my teeth and not their mama's!

Posted by: CDR M at August 22, 2013 05:10 PM (dKV5k)

333 The authorities would have to take me and my camera to jail. On the other hand I could take the worst wedding pictures ever taken in the history of wedding pictures.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at August 22, 2013 05:10 PM (0SHei)

334 *waves* Posted by: alexthechick - Team SMOD at August 22, 2013 09:09 PM (Gk3SS) Good evening ma'am. I had a good day today!!! Got mentioned on the radio.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at August 22, 2013 05:10 PM (GEICT)

335 Nah I understand hating being in the dental chair. Shit I hate it also. We have porcelian spitters in every room.
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Heck..., maybe my dentist does still have the bowls. I haven't used one in quite a while. The hygienist just keeps jamming a Hoover attachment in my mouth.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at August 22, 2013 05:10 PM (aDwsi)

336 *looks here*
*looks at Drudge*

Well, I guess I should concentrate on something less depressing, like Constantinople's losing fight against Islam.

(Hey, at least they successfully held off the Arabs.)

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at August 22, 2013 05:11 PM (d7tB2)

337 Don't want cavities? Brush your teeth. Eat less sugar. Eat more cheese (yes, cheese).

Posted by: Cowboy at August 22, 2013 05:11 PM (m5TOl)

338 @307 baldi - that's really not going to work out for the left the way they think it will. They have no idea of the Pandora 's box they will open.

Posted by: hobbes at August 22, 2013 05:11 PM (dfwJa)

339 Yes Malcolm X was a black supremacist who hated all whites and sought to destroy them. Then he had an epiphany at Mecca and went from a black supremacist to a muslim supremacist. So ... not much of an improvement.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at August 22, 2013 05:11 PM (ZPrif)

340 The authorities would have to take me and my camera to jail. On the other hand I could take the worst wedding pictures ever taken in the history of wedding pictures. Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth
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They would come and take your business, and your home, and your money..., because fair.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at August 22, 2013 05:11 PM (aDwsi)

341 Sorry to hear about that Jane.  Sounds like one of the professional agitator 'I hate Americans' victim types got him in their sights.  Okinawa is no longer fun and its at the discretion of the commander to turn service members over to local authority for trial and punishment in felony cases.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 22, 2013 05:12 PM (xDfWx)

342

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at August 22, 2013 09:09 PM (qyfb5)

 

That's too bad.

I too had some teeth problems.  My molars had holes in them as soon as they came in, some sort of disorder or something.

 

Cavities as soon as you get your permanent teeth, miserable.

Posted by: tsrblke at August 22, 2013 05:12 PM (GaqMa)

343 322 Well there is the suggestion that tooth decay may in fact be a curable disorder.

Learned from a friend about some fancy new toothpaste with an additive that helps your body rebuild teeth.  Helps with sensitive teeth and cavities.

Banned in the US, of course, because the FDA doesn't like the "repairs teeth" marketing - so people have to import it themselves. 

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at August 22, 2013 05:12 PM (h0jlY)

344 So it looks like the standard exchange will be that I'll give you a batch of shitty photos on your special day and you'll not pay me.

In the grand scheme of things, I'll come out way ahead. Your momentous occasion doesn't get recorded and I waste a few hours making a point and winnowing down the clientele list to those with whom I choose to associate.

Short term pain; long term gain. And I get to show my ass by proxy to a Court that doesn't really understand law much less Liberty.

Posted by: FYNQ Photography at August 22, 2013 05:12 PM (eHIJJ)

345 And the beast shall rise out of the pit and with all his armies make war on heaven. Posted by: Some red-eyed Ood at August 22, 2013 08:44 PM (hO9ad) This. Jane D'oh, I will pray for your young man. And I look forward to reading his story. My bro-in-law and I are trying to talk my nephew out of joining the military when the latter graduates from college and I suspect that your son's experience may help. (Sad day and sign of the times when two vets have to do that.)

Posted by: baldilocks at August 22, 2013 05:12 PM (Tnlh/)

346 Ghost shark, seriously what were they smoking?

Posted by: Raymond Luxury Yacht at August 22, 2013 05:13 PM (Jsiw/)

347 Good evening ma'am. I had a good day today!!!

Got mentioned on the radio.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at August 22, 2013 09:10 PM (GEICT)




Was allegedly mentioned first?

I am happy you had a good day.


Please tell me you're watching Ghost Shark.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA The "effects".  AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA

Posted by: alexthechick - Team SMOD at August 22, 2013 05:13 PM (Gk3SS)

348

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at August 22, 2013 09:10 PM (GEICT)

 

See we told you the blog was a good idea.

Oh you mean for your legitimate business .

Posted by: tsrblke at August 22, 2013 05:13 PM (GaqMa)

349 Banned in the US, of course, because the FDA doesn't like the "repairs teeth" marketing - so people have to import it themselves. Posted by: ConservativeMonster at August 22, 2013 09:12 PM (h0jlY) I wanted to do titanium nitride plating but they said it wasn't available. What is the name of this magic thing? Will check eBay or BlackMarketBay.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at August 22, 2013 05:14 PM (qyfb5)

350 Jane -so very sorry to hear your son having trouble. I will pray for him and you.

Posted by: Me at August 22, 2013 05:14 PM (xGDj+)

351 Wow, even Ghost Shark is racist.

Posted by: Methos at August 22, 2013 05:14 PM (hO9ad)

352 2017 - New regulations put into place today by the Behavioral Modification Ministry require all public places in America to have eight separate bathrooms, clearly separately marked, one each for heterosexual men, heterosexual women, homosexual males, homosexual females, crossdressing and transgender males, crossdressing and transgender females, bisexuals, and hermaphrodites. The crossdressers and transgenders are protesting, while the Union of Molesters and Pederasts insists on their right to enter any bathroom anytime, and they have a lot of backing among Democrats. Asked for the opposition party position, GOP leader for life John Boener was quoted as saying, "Yeah, whatever President Obama says."

Posted by: Obama's Third Term at August 22, 2013 05:14 PM (U13jb)

353 Cavities as soon as you get your permanent teeth, miserable. Posted by: tsrblke at August 22, 2013 09:12 PM (GaqMa) sorry

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at August 22, 2013 05:14 PM (qyfb5)

354 Tell the wedding party YOUR conditions.  That you require approval of all wedding clothes, setting, flowers, etc.

For PHOTOGRAPHIC purposes.

And keep it vague.

Posted by: zsasz at August 22, 2013 05:14 PM (MMC8r)

355 Wow, even Ghost Shark is racist.
Posted by: Methos
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Tell me about it...

Posted by: Caspar at August 22, 2013 05:15 PM (aDwsi)

356 Photograph the wedding, on the condition that the fee is to be paid directly to the Catholic church, or other pro marriage organization. Heh.

Posted by: real joe at August 22, 2013 05:16 PM (5wsCu)

357 Hhmmm  this free Kindle book.  When I read the title That Girl Started Her Own Country I thought AlextheChick had written her manifesto.  Then I read in the blurb about the Bilderberg Group and Zaydee's boyfriend is Steven Larson...   So don't think its by AlextheChick...

http://tinyurl.com/mevo7t9

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 22, 2013 05:16 PM (xDfWx)

358 Perhaps the photographer will come down with a tooth abscess the day of the wedding???

Posted by: Me at August 22, 2013 05:16 PM (xGDj+)

359 Okay, I'm going to guess that when you have the lower half of a body and not the top half of a body, I'm going with dead, not presumably dead. 


Omfg.   Omfg.  It's Bull!

Posted by: alexthechick - Team SMOD at August 22, 2013 05:16 PM (Gk3SS)

360

Posted by: FYNQ Photography at August 22, 2013 09:12 PM (eHIJJ)

 

That reminds me, up thread someone asked about Mormons being forced to photograph a binge drinking fest.

If I'm reading Ken at Popehat right, the answer is "no" because binge drinkers aren't a protected class.

The real problem here is that public accommodation laws have gotten a bit out of hand (they've essentially become a chainsaw when all we need these days is a scalpel.)

The guys over at Volokh (who are very pro-SSM actually) filed briefs arguing this was compelled speech, and lost, sadly.

Some pigs are more equal than others.

Posted by: tsrblke at August 22, 2013 05:17 PM (GaqMa)

361 Awful 89 year old vet murdered by two teenagers. http://tinyurl.com/mqu9pea

I suppose this won't be covered as "a local crime story"

Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston at August 22, 2013 05:17 PM (KCvsd)

362 Add language to your photographic contract that you reserve the right to subcontract at your discretion.  Then farm it off to a competitor who'd like the business.

These people aren't about the wedding, they're about the FORCE.

Posted by: zsasz at August 22, 2013 05:18 PM (MMC8r)

363 Barry is seriously and bizarrely obsessed with gay/sexual issues. Today's younger people (Gen X and Millenials) have been inundated with the greatness and bravery of the civil rights movement and they resent never having been there. The SSM thing is their version of it. And it's a sign of the times: exceedingly trivial, distracting from substantial issues, divisive and a perfect First World Problem. (Check the stats on median income of gays sometime.) It's cheap moral posturing from a secular people who need a moral crusade.

Posted by: AmishDude at August 22, 2013 05:18 PM (T0NGe)

364 Was allegedly mentioned first? I am happy you had a good day. Please tell me you're watching Ghost Shark. AHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA The "effects". AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA Posted by: alexthechick - Team SMOD at August 22, 2013 09:13 PM (Gk3SS) ---------------------- See we told you the blog was a good idea. Oh you mean for your legitimate business. Posted by: tsrblke at August 22, 2013 09:13 PM (GaqMa) Lol. Allegedly was not mentioned first and no, I'm not watching Ghost Shark. Bad Boys is on. So the mention. Local sports talk. The 1-4pm show. Host is a huge fantasy football guy and hosts a league every year that about half the spots are given to listeners. So they had a contest today for those spots. You could call in and they would "interview" you for a spot. Or you could tweet your suggestion for a team name for the lady who's the producer. Who's last name is Murphy. Too easy. I went with The Dropkick Murphys of course. I get a response two hours later: "We discussed that name in the pre show meeting. You were first to suggest it. You're in." And of course they announced my name.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at August 22, 2013 05:19 PM (GEICT)

365 These people aren't about the wedding, they're about the FORCE.
Posted by: zsasz
---------------

I suppose that I am reinforcing Godwin's Law.
They are Nazis.

Posted by: Caspar at August 22, 2013 05:20 PM (aDwsi)

366 We're talking Greek letter ratings, what is after Z for a 1,000, Alex?

Posted by: Raymond Luxury Yacht at August 22, 2013 05:20 PM (Jsiw/)

367 Well, I'm severely depressed and going to bed.

Please pray for D'oh Boy.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 22, 2013 05:20 PM (lVPtV)

368 They are Nazis.

Posted by: Caspar at August 22, 2013 09:20 PM (aDwsi)

 

There's a reason that gays were an important part of the early Nazi party.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at August 22, 2013 05:21 PM (lr3d7)

369 Uh oh BCochran is well on his way to being photographed next to Orca Winfrey... 

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 22, 2013 05:21 PM (xDfWx)

370 Is Ace Himself working late, or wut?

Posted by: Cretin, a high-grade moron at August 22, 2013 05:21 PM (jYZuY)

371 Jane, you and yours are in my prayers.

Posted by: alexthechick - Team SMOD at August 22, 2013 05:22 PM (Gk3SS)

372 I freely admit to being a total pussy about going to the dentist. It comes from when I was a kid (one of many in my family) and novacain cost extra. So we didn't get it. I need 15 mg of valium to sit in the waitng room. You. Me. Newsletter.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at August 22, 2013 05:22 PM (CeNUw)

373 what is after Z for a 1,000, Alex?

Um... eta?

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo is trying to learn Greek again at August 22, 2013 05:22 PM (d7tB2)

374 Uh oh BCochran is well on his way to being photographed next to Orca Winfrey...
Posted by: Anna Puma
--------------------

Morons everywhere hoping for 'The Dress'

Posted by: Caspar at August 22, 2013 05:22 PM (aDwsi)

375 Colorado Alex what cracks me up about the Nazis in the early days.  When they turned on pagans, one that did not see it coming was one of Hitler's astrologers.  His future became very dark.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 22, 2013 05:22 PM (xDfWx)

376 These people aren't about the wedding, they're about the FORCE.


Posted by: zsasz


That's why we need to give their names, and the date of their "special day" to the westboro baptist church.

Seriously.  That would be a hoot.  The photographer, if she's actually religious should tell the judges to go fuck themselves and refuse to photograph the wedding.

Posted by: Gman at August 22, 2013 05:22 PM (UkbKS)

377
wut.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 22, 2013 05:23 PM (uX+Qq)

378 They don't give a shit about the quality of the photos, it's just lawfare anyway. They'll be cruising men's rooms before the prints are framed.

Posted by: real joe at August 22, 2013 05:23 PM (5wsCu)

379 @367 Prayers up.

Posted by: Cretin, a high-grade moron at August 22, 2013 05:23 PM (jYZuY)

380 (my first guess was theta. ugh. hate having to look up first year shit like that)

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo is trying to learn Greek again at August 22, 2013 05:23 PM (d7tB2)

381
Ha.  I just learned what cosplay was recently and now I see a commercial for "The Heroes of Cosplay"

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 22, 2013 05:24 PM (uX+Qq)

382 Jane, you and yours are in my prayers.

Yes.  I had a friend in the navy over in S. Korea.  He said that it was a common blackmail thing the women over there did to trump up some "abuse" charge when they knew the serviceman was coming back home.  They would take a bribe, and then drop all accusations...


Posted by: Gman at August 22, 2013 05:24 PM (UkbKS)

383

The way I've heard it is that after he went on his pilgrimage to Mecca, he saw that there were Muslims of all races and colors, and after that he tempered his earlier "white devil" talk

 

 

 

 

he went to Mecca and realized he didn't know shit.  Nation of Islam never taught him to pray properly, or anything.  That and Elijah Mohomed's extra marital affairs with secretaries turned him off the whole thing.  So they had Farrakhan kill him

Posted by: thunderb at August 22, 2013 05:24 PM (zOTsN)

384 Where are you ONT???????

Posted by: stutterk at August 22, 2013 05:24 PM (z6eaQ)

385 The photogs must photograph the wedding to see wut the pictures are like.

Posted by: Cretin, a high-grade moron at August 22, 2013 05:25 PM (jYZuY)

386   What is the name of this magic thing? Will check eBay or BlackMarketBay. 

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at August 22, 2013 09:14 PM (qyfb5)


NovaMin
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NovaMin

Banned was probably the wrong word, but blame the FDA why it isn't more available in the US.  

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at August 22, 2013 05:25 PM (h0jlY)

387 I went with The Dropkick Murphys of course. I get a response two hours later: "We discussed that name in the pre show meeting. You were first to suggest it. You're in."

And of course they announced my name.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at August 22, 2013 09:19 PM (GEICT)



Huzzah!   You really need to turn it over the Ghost Shark.   Lots of bikinis and the one chick has amazing abs.   Plus other stuff.  

Huh.   Was just reading imdb stuff about Richard Moll and there was a comment that he was cast in Night Court in no small part because they needed someone taller than John Larroquette and Harry Anderson.   I always forget how tall the two of them are.  

Posted by: alexthechick - Team SMOD at August 22, 2013 05:25 PM (Gk3SS)

388 Ghost Shark is horrible.

Posted by: CDR M at August 22, 2013 05:26 PM (dKV5k)

389 no...No....NONONONONONONO!!!!!!!!! For all that is holy...NOOOOOOOO!!!!!!

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at August 22, 2013 05:26 PM (GEICT)

390 The bikinis were good though.

Posted by: CDR M at August 22, 2013 05:26 PM (dKV5k)

391 It's time for at least civil disobedience.  The photographer should refuse.

Posted by: Gman at August 22, 2013 05:26 PM (UkbKS)

392 Omfg. Omfg. It's Bull!

Yeah I haven't seen him since the first episode of Highlander. I assumed he was dead.

Posted by: Methos at August 22, 2013 05:27 PM (hO9ad)

393

"In short, I would say to the Huguenins, with the utmost respect: it is the price of citizenship.”

 

 

 

 

Judge Bosson has shown the same level of "tolerance" and "respect" to the Huguenins that the people of North Korea are shown when they are required to publicly celebrate their Dear Leader -- or else.  

Posted by: girldog at August 22, 2013 05:27 PM (i/s89)

394 Polygamy is coming ladies and gentlemen, and quicker than you think. I'd say less than five years, and by the end of this administration if they can help it along.

Posted by: Colorado Alex


Don't forget Polyamory. I remember bringing this up when "gay civil unions" was the cause du jour (before I knew there was even a term for it) 20-25 years ago. Gay civil unions will turn into gay marriage and then the door will blow off and Polygamy/polyamory/whatever the fuck else will come on in. I got scoffed at.

Posted by: puddleglum at August 22, 2013 05:28 PM (D1p3J)

395 So do we get to start referring to MLK as, the "openly bigoted" MLK? He was opposed to gay marriage. Hell, he was opposed to homosexuality in all forms. I wouldn't be surprised if Harvey Milk was against SSM. The fact is, marriage is inherently heterosexual. The whole thing is based on the reproductive act and crosses cultures and religions. As such, gays resented the idea that they were only validated by aping such rituals. AIDS changed a lot. The guys over at Volokh (who are very pro-SSM actually) filed briefs arguing this was compelled speech, and lost, sadly. So maybe the dummies at Volokh see why so many anti-SSM people held that position -- judges cannot be trusted.

Posted by: AmishDude at August 22, 2013 05:28 PM (T0NGe)

396 If teh gheys had simply checked with the SPLC, they would have known that they were dealing terrorist photographers.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at August 22, 2013 05:29 PM (aDwsi)

397 Banned was probably the wrong word, but blame the FDA why it isn't more available in the US. Posted by: ConservativeMonster at August 22, 2013 09:25 PM (h0jlY) And the people who do have it seem awfully loathe to sell it. I begin bombing in five minutes.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at August 22, 2013 05:29 PM (qyfb5)

398 382
Jane, you and yours are in my prayers.


Yes. I had a friend in the navy over in S. Korea. He said that it was a common blackmail thing the women over there did to trump up some "abuse" charge when they knew the serviceman was coming back home. They would take a bribe, and then drop all accusations...


Posted by: Gman at August 22, 2013 09:24 PM (UkbKS)




It has nothing to do with sex.  It has everything to do with our son cancelling his cell phone service before he deployed (his cell phone was also damaged/destroyed).  I can't even begin to tell you what he went through two years ago.


Jeebus, our son can't come home until he gives these lying bastards every cent he worked for while serving to these fucking Jap douchebags.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 22, 2013 05:29 PM (lVPtV)

399 Dude, I do not need to see this.

Posted by: Methos at August 22, 2013 05:30 PM (hO9ad)

400 License required to buy toothpaste. Yeah, put a wall around DC and call it good.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at August 22, 2013 05:30 PM (qyfb5)

401 Don't forget Polyamory. I remember bringing this up when "gay civil unions" was the cause du jour(before I knew there was even a term for it) 20-25 years ago. Gay civil unions will turn into gay marriage and then the door will blow off and Polygamy/polyamory/whatever the fuck else will come on in. I got scoffed at.

Posted by: puddleglum at August 22, 2013 09:28 PM (D1p3J)

 

Polygamy was my shorthand for poly-anything.  And the left has admitted for years that gay marriage would mean that we straights would have to rethink our expectation of monogamy. 

Posted by: Colorado Alex at August 22, 2013 05:31 PM (lr3d7)

402 Jane, I'm really sorry to hear that.  Ugh.

Posted by: Gman at August 22, 2013 05:31 PM (UkbKS)

403 Ha. I just learned what cosplay was recently and now I see a commercial for "The Heroes of Cosplay"

It's pretty much cleavage, stress, cleavage, and one dude who's obsessed with full body armor.

Posted by: Methos at August 22, 2013 05:32 PM (hO9ad)

404 Thanks for bringing back the name, though, CM

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at August 22, 2013 05:33 PM (qyfb5)

405
Haha.  Good one, bloody head on a beer bottle.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 22, 2013 05:33 PM (uX+Qq)

406 "The Huguenins are free to think, to say, to believe, as they wish; they may pray to the God of their choice and follow those commandments in their personal lives wherever they lead. The Constitution protects the Huguenins in that respect and much more."

So it's the official legal, constitutional policy of New Mexico that you can practice your religion or you can work for a living in your chosen field. Because... tolerance, and whatnot.

I really don't think these pinheads are going to like living (albeit briefly, for most of them) in a world where all of the basic First Principles moralities upon which virtually all of the pretenses of the very "civil society" the are laboring so intensely to create are stripped away - leaving, essentially, the societal underpinnings of ancient Moab and Edom.

Want to know where we're headed? Read the Old Testament - Judges, heck the post-flood chapters of Genesis would do - it's all there.

Nothing new under the sun.

Let it burn.

Posted by: DocJ at August 22, 2013 05:35 PM (du8Bm)

407 New thread up. 

@ Mero
Friend who brought it up on Facebook does get a supply somewhere, so I think it's not too difficult to buy from overseas.   Good luck with it.  

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at August 22, 2013 05:35 PM (h0jlY)

408 Heroes of Cosplay, first two episodes.  Lots of drama, panic, and claws.

OMG Victoria should be drop kicked.  First episode her embroidery machine breaks, her boyfriend stays behind to that done, she goes to the con, Friday night gets hammered in her MLP costume, wakes up late Saturday with hangover, picks up package from BF that arrived that morning while she still slept, and then she missed the costume contest because she was still sewing embroidery on.  Second episode her boyfriend wires up her Tron dress for lights.  At Emerald Con Yaya Han, a judge, asks her Friday night how much help Jiyo do so she tells Yaya.  Then Saturday night in her light up Quorra Tron dress Yaya asks how much did she do on it.  Victoria adits to doing a little bit of work but never mentions Jiyo's help.  Stupid girl lied on the stage.  She no win any awards.

It other words its like watching a train wreck.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 22, 2013 05:38 PM (xDfWx)

409 So it's the official legal, constitutional policy of New Mexico that you can practice your religion or you can work for a living in your chosen field. Because... tolerance, and whatnot. See now if the Huguenins said they were Muslims, the gays would be paying them. ..... Are we buying into their worldview by calling 'em gays instead of homos? I'm getting tired of ceding the language to them.

Posted by: Iblis at August 22, 2013 05:40 PM (3p2ni)

410 #227  Fifty years ago,  when I was in middle school (ack,  I am a geezer) this would have been impossible.  Most of the nation (including me) didn't really understand what homosexuals did or that they were even around.  I am sure some men knew,  but I can guaran-damn-tee you this was NOT a topic in my middle school or high school.  I didn't know what gay men did to each other until I was in my 20's.

So what has happened is first people were lured away from religion.  They were kept from prayer at school,  kept from participating in religious exercises at school, saw religion mocked on TV,  etc. etc.  Church membership and attendance dropped.

Now we have a state which is so secular that religious freedom doesn't enter into most people's minds.  On Sundays they do yard work or go shopping.  Even soccer leagues and Little League baseball schedule stuff on Sundays,  so you are forced to either skip church,  find a Saturday mass/service,  or skip the game.

Now that we are so secular (or,  as I like to call it,  pagan) this won't bother a great many people.  They will say "What's the big deal?" and shrug their shoulders.

"This is the way the world ends... Not with a bang,  but a whimper."

---Archibald McLeish

Posted by: Miss Marple at August 22, 2013 05:41 PM (GoIUi)

411 >>And the left has admitted for years that gay marriage would mean that we straights would have to rethink our expectation of monogamy.

They wrote it up and published it back in 2006: http://beyondmarriage.org/
The goal is to destroy marriage.

Posted by: HRH Princess Fuzzy Bunny a/k/a Lizzy at August 22, 2013 05:43 PM (UrtRh)

412 What's to prevent a photographer from "forgetting" to take the lens cap while shooting a wedding he really doesn't want to shoot?

Posted by: Northernlurker at August 22, 2013 06:45 PM (BLAfs)

413 I would say to the Huguenins, with the utmost respect: it is the price of citizenship

Huguenins: "We would say, with the utmost contempt, that you can blow us. Also, fuck you if you think we're going to serve these people."

Posted by: physics geek at August 22, 2013 06:49 PM (llWHs)

414 it ain't a marriage if they are both boys or girls,  needs one of each.

Posted by: joe mack at August 22, 2013 07:06 PM (ZGKN0)

415 In short, I would say to the Huguenins, with the utmost respect: it is the price of citizenship.” ......I would say to this judge with the utmost lack of respect: "Eff you, drown in a puddle of AIDS"

Posted by: Trump at August 22, 2013 07:20 PM (F8Lnm)

416 Or not.

Posted by: Trump at August 22, 2013 07:20 PM (F8Lnm)

417 @218 -  We have a culture that no longer respects life.  When people can openly lobby for and celebrate the extinguishment of the most innocent, namely the unborn who could survive outside the womb, it can only go down from there.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at August 22, 2013 07:33 PM (iEpNM)

418

If Barack Obama's mother had had a son, he might have looked like Chris Lane.

 

If I've repeated a gag, my apologies, I'm always way behind the curve

Posted by: oldgraymarist at August 22, 2013 07:53 PM (S4niq)

419 Re: The photographers should botch the photos. As they're Christian, the following would seem to apply: 39 [W]hosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also. 40 And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloak also. 41 And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain. 44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; Matthew 5:39-41, 44 (KJV) Sometimes doing the right thing means submitting to injustice. As it would seem now.

Posted by: cormac_mcroadie at August 22, 2013 08:06 PM (4HsUp)

420 The photographer should have said she was all booked up and couldn't do the photos - simple as that. This would have avoided the whole mess. As for the couple, they should have just found another photographer. Honesty is not always the best policy.

Posted by: Mistress Overdone at August 22, 2013 10:22 PM (2/oBD)

421 After the immigration debate episode 93 I'm increasingly embracing the let it burn philosophy. Our own party is willing to sell out so indentured servants are available for labor in their factories. We are embracing an unsustainable practice of slave labor in industry. The leaders of the party see profits. The leaders on the other side don't really want egalitarian principles either they see a system of patronage. What I see a world in 50 years where old world settlers are outnumbered by indigenous people. Setting aside the morality play both sides present as justification: I am the descendant of European settlers and I don't see my own best interest being represented on either side. These people in Washington do represent me right? The citizens of Mexico don't have a vote in all this right? Why are there interests more significant than my own? We are on a path to create a system similar to South Africa circa 1980. That system of exploitation can't be sustained. In time the people being exploited for political and economic gain will and should demand rights which will marginalize the European, African and Asian immigrants that currently control the destiny of the republic.

Posted by: bestie21 at August 22, 2013 11:54 PM (IeW/Z)

422 Just like a Dream:
http://www.wat.tv/video/just-like-dream-3tudj_2k0an_.html

Posted by: weft love-loop at August 23, 2013 01:39 AM (hSwFv)

423 Here's the thing. There's no definition of "gay." It's an inch thick and a mile wide. Basically, anything that they want, if you oppose it, you are anti-gay. 1. You oppose gay marriage - you are anti-gay 2. You oppose homosexuality taught in school - you are anti-gay 3. You oppose removing the age of consent - you are anti-gay 4. You oppose gay parades with people running around in g-strings - you are anti-gay 5. You oppose bath houses in neighborhoods - you are anti-gay.

Posted by: biscuits mahoney at August 23, 2013 04:32 AM (zyx7/)

424 But all of these issues are really the fault of conservatives.  I think I read that somewhere in a column once.

Posted by: ejo at August 23, 2013 04:56 AM (GXvSO)

425 WAR is the only solution. I will not worship these people.WAR!

Posted by: Sidney Allen Johnson at August 23, 2013 07:10 AM (Bl6fI)

426

 The 'grittier' part of town, here in Duncan, OK, with two murders in the last five years? Yeah, that makes Chi-town's murder rate look pale in comparison. It makes Detroit look like paradise incarnate.

 

 (Cluebat: Anyone trying to start a violent black gang in this town has a whole lot of white gun owners to contend with, first.)

 

 

Posted by: Warren Bonesteel at August 23, 2013 08:16 AM (klGLB)

427 " That sense of respect we owe others, whether or not we believe as they do, illuminates this country, setting it apart from the discord that afflicts much of the rest of the world. In short, I would say to the Huguenins, with the utmost respect: it is the price of citizenship.” "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws." I get it. This judge was just making crap up, and it sounded really wise and sage to make up crap about paying a price to live in a nice, discord free country where random strangers can demand you serve them and you better hop to it, like it or not. Thing is, while the Supreme Court says state governments have general police powers, the 14th Amendment is a state-approved limit on those powers. And the 14th says straight out -- you get your privileges and immunities from being born. If the theory of law is that vendors have to buy the rights of citizenship in New Mexico --it's actually as straight up unconstitutional as a poll tax, and void.

Posted by: Making Treason Pay at August 23, 2013 10:04 AM (TbVAj)

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