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November 02, 2013

Ace 2005 flashback - Blogs/new media
— Purple Avenger

This old 2005 vintage Ace post is worth a re-read.

The OSM notion of which Ace wrote back in 2005 morphed into something else with the rise of blogs, Breitbart, etc, but it does seem like alt-media has gotten way more respect and ad dollars since 2005, and has seen a number of its personalities break into old-media gaining wider audience (ex. Malkin)

The right side of alt-media was respected enough that Axlerod sent swarms of trolls out to attack it. When you took fire from the Whitehouse itself, you were over the target. Trolls, annoying as they are, mean you're HAVING AN EFFECT. You ARE worth attacking. They validate you.

The MSM and politicians have always dismissed new-media as a bunch of yappy ankle biters, but now, in 2013, they're doing it with pretty bloody ankles.

Alternative commentary is still our stock in trade, but original reporting is happening (ex Zombie, shutdown theater, etc). People are out there digging deep into things that never got dug into before - dry IG reports, and all manner of other government documents that were selectively filtered by old-media previously. Leakage of previously sequestered stories has risen from a trickle to a small but steady stream.

We're still evolving daily. Its been a wild ride. It promises to get wilder.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at 01:12 PM | Comments (176)
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1 Not first.

Posted by: johnd01 at November 02, 2013 01:15 PM (r0+v0)

2 Posted by: discount prescription drugs at February 01, 2006 03:04 PM (qfYdx) Ah, the good old days! Machines for sale, we hardly knew ye!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at November 02, 2013 01:21 PM (A2sQP)

3 Not third

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 02, 2013 01:22 PM (aDwsi)

4 Alternative media is one of my sources for hope because it exposes truth. Then I remember the standard LIV has no interest in truth. Back to despair. Am I too pessimistic?

Posted by: Mindy at November 02, 2013 01:23 PM (ZrNcx)

5 Uncanny, third is *not third*. Next: cats and dogs living together.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 02, 2013 01:23 PM (aDwsi)

6 The 1990 Lita was pretty spectacular. The 2013 Lita, not so much.

Posted by: lowandslow at November 02, 2013 01:24 PM (IV4od)

7 mmmm Lita

Posted by: kyle barton at November 02, 2013 01:25 PM (ok/Ij)

8 Am I too pessimistic? Posted by: Mindy
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Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 02, 2013 01:25 PM (aDwsi)

9 6 The 1990 Lita was pretty spectacular. The 2013 Lita, not so much.

Posted by: lowandslow at November 02, 2013 05:24 PM (IV4od)

You beat me to it.

She was hot in her day.

Saw her open for Ted Nugent once.

Posted by: Ian 'Go' Galt at November 02, 2013 01:25 PM (QdOC1)

10 Not only have some personalities made the jump from blog to face time news, but a substantial portion of what makes news coverage begins as blog coverage of events. This is especially true in nearly every issue brought onto face time news that has to do with challenging 'the narrative' of the left. Not much, if any, of that coverage ever begins with standard issue "journalists".

Posted by: Grimmy at November 02, 2013 01:26 PM (uUsh9)

11 I miss the wig guy

Posted by: Dept. Of Acuracy at November 02, 2013 01:26 PM (MhA4j)

12 @ #4, Mindy:

Too pessimistic? No, just aware. The two can be confused at times, though.

Posted by: Grimmy at November 02, 2013 01:27 PM (uUsh9)

13 Lace Wigs broke new ground with the notion of sentient spam

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at November 02, 2013 01:30 PM (4tK7k)

14 One of my major gripes with the big money blogs on the right is they still don't do any independent investigative reporting. There's no reason that a Townhall or The Blaze couldn't do some of the things a Sharyl Attkisson is doing.

Posted by: lowandslow at November 02, 2013 01:31 PM (IV4od)

15 The media and culture war really are the most important thing. As Breitbart would say, politics is downstream of culture. And, long term, it's probably not much more complicated than: 1) Give money and attention to your friends 2) Don't give money or attention to your enemies No need to be all hair-shirt about it. But, especially when you have a choice, support your friends and punish your enemies. And in the media world, ignoring your enemies is a form of punishment.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 02, 2013 01:32 PM (ZPrif)

16 Lace Wigs broke new ground with the notion of sentient spam
Posted by: Purp at November 02, 2013 05:30 PM (4tK7k)

I miss Lace Wigs.

Posted by: alexthechick - Mmmm Snickers at November 02, 2013 01:33 PM (Gk3SS)

17 The 1990 Lita was pretty spectacular. The 2013 Lita, not so much. Posted by: lowandslow at November 02, 2013 05:24 ***** I saw the Divinyls live in Austin and the beautiful Chrissy Amphlett reach into her pants and do a Jim Morrison stage trick.... well they were performing "I Touch Myself" They arrested her

Posted by: Dept. Of Acuracy at November 02, 2013 01:33 PM (MhA4j)

18 Blogs? Are they still a thing? Didn't I tell people to stay away from the blogs? Don't make me release Val on you...

Posted by: Barky Obammy at November 02, 2013 01:34 PM (MnSla)

19 Mike Hammer and Grimmy, that's what I was afraid of. I feel like we are facing a huge, ugly, avoidable disaster, and no one will respond to the warnings.

Posted by: Mindy at November 02, 2013 01:34 PM (ZrNcx)

20 That old post had five whole comments - not including the spam.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Jeers and More at the Outrage Outlet! at November 02, 2013 01:34 PM (gmoEG)

21 Lace Wigs vs Machines For Sale. Who wins?

Posted by: EC at November 02, 2013 01:35 PM (doBIb)

22 The more people who make a living in conservative media the better. It's tough though. Websites and magazines aren't exactly cash cows. My understanding is most conservative magazines survive off donor money, not subscription or ad revenue.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 02, 2013 01:35 PM (ZPrif)

23 Malkin is a more interesting case: old-media who broke into new media. I remember her syndicated columns in the Houston Post in the '90s.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at November 02, 2013 01:36 PM (d7tB2)

24 I was just going backwards from the last 'vintage Ace' post...I miss the Kim Richards days. Good times.

Posted by: Gromulin at November 02, 2013 01:37 PM (1O/uG)

25 21 Someone did a spoof of those two with "Islam Buggering Pants" that linked to a Saudi Men's Clothing site

Posted by: Dept. Of Acuracy at November 02, 2013 01:37 PM (MhA4j)

26 My understanding is most conservative magazines survive off donor money, not subscription or ad revenue.

Or have a wealthy patron, like Taki or Marty Peretz (when TNR still had its pinky toe dipped into the Right).

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at November 02, 2013 01:38 PM (d7tB2)

27 Posted by: Mindy at November 02, 2013 05:34 PM (ZrNcx)

If you want to despair, go right ahead. It is completely useless to do so and all it does is make their jobs easier. But if that is what you want to do, knock yourself out.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Jeers and More at the Outrage Outlet! at November 02, 2013 01:38 PM (gmoEG)

28 That old post had five whole comments - not including the spam.

Well, it was posted at 5:30'ish when things were winding down for the day then.

That was pre-ONT era too, so we didn't have a notion of "the night shift" back then.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at November 02, 2013 01:38 PM (4tK7k)

29 21 Lace Wigs vs Machines For Sale.

Who wins?

Posted by: EC at November 02, 2013 05:35 PM (doBIb)

Machines that make Lace Wigs

Posted by: Joethefatman™ (@joethefatman1) at November 02, 2013 01:39 PM (MnSla)

30 I'll probably get stoned for saying it but, Breitbart.com has been a real disappointment since Andrew died. You don't see anything of any relevance coming from them anymore. Leave the investigative stuff out of it, the opinion writing coming from them now is really sub-par.

Posted by: lowandslow at November 02, 2013 01:39 PM (IV4od)

31 And commenters like WickedPinto, too. I wonder what kind of institution he's in these days.

Posted by: Gromulin at November 02, 2013 01:39 PM (1O/uG)

32 Mikey, you sure know how to cheer a gal up.

Posted by: Mindy at November 02, 2013 01:40 PM (ZrNcx)

33 I think we're all thanful the blog software and comment system has been updated since that post in 2005, I was running out of pigeons.

Posted by: Dr Spank at November 02, 2013 01:40 PM (9jLim)

34 WickedPinto (and mesablue) made an appearance here a couple of weeks ago. Mostly they're hanging at H2

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at November 02, 2013 01:41 PM (4tK7k)

35 Sometimes it's fun being a registered Democrat. It means you get things in your mail in block capitals in RED saying: FENELON, IF YOU DON"T OPEN THIS ENVELOPE MITCH MCCONNELL AND TED CRUZ WIN!!! Good; I won't open the envelope. :^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 02, 2013 01:41 PM (23Kgq)

36 Even when Lita was young she always had the MILF look about her.

Posted by: Kreplach at November 02, 2013 01:41 PM (dwtaK)

37 Thanks Purp. Been neglecting H2 for a while.

Posted by: Gromulin at November 02, 2013 01:42 PM (1O/uG)

38 thanful = thankful.(where's spell-check when you need it?)

Posted by: Dr Spank at November 02, 2013 01:42 PM (9jLim)

39 FENELON, IF YOU DON"T OPEN THIS ENVELOPE MITCH MCCONNELL AND TED CRUZ WIN!!! Good; I won't open the envelope. :^)

You could maybe open it halfway . . .

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at November 02, 2013 01:42 PM (d7tB2)

40 That's one thing I admire about Beck. He's built more of an alt-media infrastructure than most other right-wing pundits combined. Malkin is another. Original reporting is expensive, though. I really hope BlazeTV gets on more cable channels (calling and asking for it is the best way to get that to happen) cause that's a revenue stream that can fund original reporting. That's how FoxNews can afford it. Talk radio makes a few hosts rich -- and I love Rush, no knock on him -- but there isn't the revenue to support much infrastructure. We are still mostly dependent on leftists for original news and then we have lots of right-wing pundits who use the news as fodder and put their own spin and interpretation on it. But the news always starts with a leftist slant to start with, so half the work is just unslanting the news.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 02, 2013 01:43 PM (ZPrif)

41 Kreplach
I don't know. Seemed to have more of a stoner look when she was in the runaways.

Posted by: Joethefatman™ (@joethefatman1) at November 02, 2013 01:43 PM (MnSla)

42 I've been getting all sorts of fake poll calls recently looking solicit money for Dems.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at November 02, 2013 01:43 PM (4tK7k)

43 Some of Pinto's stories were epic. Sad sometimes, but epic.

Posted by: Gromulin at November 02, 2013 01:43 PM (1O/uG)

44 You wanna impress me? Go dig up SPURWING PLOVER'S first comment.

Posted by: soothsayer at November 02, 2013 01:44 PM (VT1dH)

45 Who are you going to trust, a professional organization with layers and layers of fact checkers and propagandists or some guy sitting in his living room in his pajamas with a laptop?

Posted by: Winston Smith at November 02, 2013 01:44 PM (rkewj)

46 Blogs: a New Samizdat for a New Soviet Union. The reaction of repressed people yearning for freedom. And of course, viewed from the perspective of the Government, it's terrorism, straight up. Later.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 02, 2013 01:44 PM (wAloV)

47 OT, but did y'all see what Charles W Cooke tweeted about Ace? I'm just dropping in so maybe it's been mentioned 1000x already, but Cooke called Ace a "brilliant reprobate" who can really write.

Posted by: stace at November 02, 2013 01:44 PM (DX63t)

48 THIS: 44 You wanna impress me? Go dig up SPURWING PLOVER'S first comment.

Posted by: Gromulin at November 02, 2013 01:45 PM (1O/uG)

49 Having a traditional network behind you speeds up the FOIA process quite a bit too.

They can stonewall the little guy for the maximum time allowed (and beyond) and get away with it knowing he doesn't have the deep pockets to sue for compliance.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at November 02, 2013 01:45 PM (4tK7k)

50 Boulder Hobo, I'm like a political Carnac the Magnificent. It's from "Democratic Firewall" so (cue spooky music here while I touch my headress)......If I send them $50.00 I predict I can help Cruz not win. :^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 02, 2013 01:46 PM (23Kgq)

51 If you are going to bring back old Ace posts, you should at least provide it as a techno remixÂ…

Posted by: The Political Hat at November 02, 2013 01:46 PM (XvHmy)

52 Some of richard's comments are kind of Spurwing'esque.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at November 02, 2013 01:46 PM (4tK7k)

53 or at least one of his early 'flying cars' comments

Posted by: soothsayer at November 02, 2013 01:47 PM (VT1dH)

54 Mikey, you sure know how to cheer a gal up.

Posted by: Mindy at November 02, 2013 05:40 PM (ZrNcx)

It's what I do best.

Besides, despairing people do not shop at the Outrage Outlet.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Jeers and More at the Outrage Outlet! at November 02, 2013 01:47 PM (gmoEG)

55 @41

She was 29 when that video came out. She looks to me to be late 30's early 40's in the video.

Maybe it's the feathered hair.

Posted by: Kreplach at November 02, 2013 01:47 PM (dwtaK)

56 What about C#d@rfnord's comments :^x

Someone commented here once that you could summon it by saying the mantra "beat more Jews, beat more Jews, beat more Jews"

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at November 02, 2013 01:48 PM (d7tB2)

57 I look forward to someone, someday really being able to do a conservative Daily Show. RedEye is the closest anyone's come. And Gutfeld was rewarded for that. I've seen a couple attempts but they just weren't actually funny, and the production quality was low.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 02, 2013 01:48 PM (ZPrif)

58 The Plover was his own bird, just how he rolled yo.

Posted by: The Hobo Hooker,Who Needs More Seroquel And A Saber , Wears Prada at November 02, 2013 01:49 PM (GeVLX)

59 I found an old lace wig comment : http://tinyurl.com/8f9rvkn

Posted by: Dr Spank at November 02, 2013 01:50 PM (9jLim)

60 44 You wanna impress me? Go dig up SPURWING PLOVER'S first comment. Posted by: soothsayer at November 02, 2013 05:44 PM (VT1dH) I got spurwing to respond to me once. I was impressed by that, but then again maybe it's not such a good thing to be on spurwing's wavelength.

Posted by: stace at November 02, 2013 01:50 PM (DX63t)

61 "Original reporting is expensive"

I look at the obviously blotted payrolls of some of the blogs and websites and wonder if they couldn't use their money more wisely. Take one like NRO, granted the National Review has been strictly opinion but in this day and age is having probably ten staff writer plus dozens more freelance writers writing the same shit day in day out the best use of resources?

Posted by: lowandslow at November 02, 2013 01:51 PM (IV4od)

62 I'd also really a love a non-leftist source for sports news. Hate that me watching ESPN makes strident left-wingers like Kornheiser and Wilbon rich. I just want a half hour show that summarizes the sports news of the day in a semi-entertaining way - that isn't entirely run by hard-core leftists.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 02, 2013 01:51 PM (ZPrif)

63 If you Google "cedarford", the CedarfordSucks blog is top of the list. Its also quite funny

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at November 02, 2013 01:52 PM (4tK7k)

64 "What about C#d@rfnord's comments :^x"

He hangs out and Althouse and yes, it is the fault of progressive Jews.

Me, I blame progressive Methodists. And Episcopalians.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Jeers and More at the Outrage Outlet! at November 02, 2013 01:53 PM (gmoEG)

65 I remember you stace from the 2006 AoS Illegal Immigration Wars. (That's if you're the stace from TX who thinks it's not okay for TX to put up a fence along the Rio Grande.)

Posted by: soothsayer at November 02, 2013 01:54 PM (VT1dH)

66 Spurwing is a sweetheart. That he no longer comments here is our lost.

Posted by: Zombie Eddard Stark at November 02, 2013 01:54 PM (mpTrn)

67 Does genghis still comment here?

Posted by: Dr Spank at November 02, 2013 01:55 PM (9jLim)

68 LauraW and DiT were a howl back in those way-back days. The H2 is often good but the snark in the vintage AoSHQ was museum quality.

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70 FenelonSpoke - I always open the envelope, hoping for a postage-paid return envelope, which I dutifully return. Likewise, when I receive a lefty robo-call, I place the receiver on the counter and let the message play out. It all costs them.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 02, 2013 01:57 PM (aDwsi)

71 I haven't read the post, or looked back at the old thread, but PUNCH UP!

Posted by: garrett at November 02, 2013 01:57 PM (unFST)

72 Now this is a nice dog costume: http://goo.gl/mLXCfC That little dog could be in GOT!

Posted by: Zombie Eddard Stark at November 02, 2013 01:58 PM (mpTrn)

73 FenelonSpoke - I always open the envelope, hoping for a postage-paid return envelope, which I dutifully return. Thanks; I'll look for that. And I like the idea of just leaving the receiver on the phone down. LOL.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 02, 2013 01:59 PM (23Kgq)

74 Don't forget, original reporting, while pricy, is also intensely time consuming.

A small blogger could do it, but it could take weeks/months of research, many miles driven accessing records not on the internet, doing interviews, etc just to produce a single blog post about something substantial.

Yon did it, and turned a few bucks off it, but even he had to have some msm entities backing him for the creds that got him embed gigs.

Have you noticed that since Obama took over, embed reporting has kinda tapered off?

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at November 02, 2013 02:00 PM (4tK7k)

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Posted by: Zombie Eddard Stark at November 02, 2013 02:01 PM (mpTrn)

76 that 2005 post had 5 non-spam comments.

Posted by: Comrade Arthur at November 02, 2013 02:03 PM (83xuc)

77 The Story of Sarah Palin's of vagina needed the scores of reporters sent to Wasilla

Posted by: Andi Sullivain at November 02, 2013 02:03 PM (Pr6hk)

78 "A small blogger could do it, but it could take weeks/months of research, many miles driven accessing records not on the internet, doing interviews, etc just to produce a single blog post about something substantial."

I'm not saying an ace or JWF, I'm talking the big money blogs on the right. Breitbart, Townhall, Hot Air, The Blaze, etc.

Posted by: lowandslow at November 02, 2013 02:04 PM (IV4od)

79 FENELON, IF YOU DON"T OPEN THIS ENVELOPE MITCH MCCONNELL AND TED CRUZ WIN!!! In what world can Mitch and Ted Cruz both win.

Posted by: Jean at November 02, 2013 02:04 PM (2aO3a)

80 I didn't get here until May of '11, so I've never seen or read any of the posts by the days gone by commenters. Shoot it took nearly a year before I ventured my first comment.

Posted by: Joethefatman™ (@joethefatman1) at November 02, 2013 02:05 PM (MnSla)

81 re: the few comments Back then we read the posts, commented little. Only a few people interacted with each other. Little by little the commenting increased as more people jumped in.

Posted by: soothsayer at November 02, 2013 02:06 PM (VT1dH)

82 The main money the Left gets from me is via my cable bill. On the Web it's much easier to starve the Left of revenue.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 02, 2013 02:06 PM (ZPrif)

83 Of course, half of original reporting isn't -- it's just PR firms placing stories.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 02, 2013 02:08 PM (ZPrif)

84 82 Not cable,your income taxes.

Posted by: steevy at November 02, 2013 02:09 PM (zqvg6)

85 Back then we read the posts, commented little. Only a few people interacted with each other. Little by little the commenting increased as more people jumped in. Posted by: soothsayer at November 02, 2013 06:06 PM (VT1dH) People commented plenty. They are just not showing up. Possibly due to the old comment thingies?

Posted by: Zombie Eddard Stark at November 02, 2013 02:09 PM (mpTrn)

86 ...now there are too many comments for people like me to follow, so we spin off to places like Stoaty's where the commenter community is smaller and feels more like here circa 04/05.

Posted by: Gromulin at November 02, 2013 02:10 PM (1O/uG)

87 This is pretty cool.

Watch: ContainershipÂ’s Structure Visually Flexing in Heavy Seas

http://gcaptain.com/watch-containerships-structure/

Posted by: 13times at November 02, 2013 02:10 PM (fGPLK)

88 Lita Ford always had that "used hard,put up wet" look.

Posted by: steevy at November 02, 2013 02:10 PM (zqvg6)

89 86 LauraW and DiT were a howl back in those way I miss coming home and seeing the human torch back to the past blasts, was anyone here for the b-l-a-z meltdown? epic

Posted by: navycopjoe at November 02, 2013 02:11 PM (qVKcL)

90 btw, the "concensus" of "scientists" who believe in man made climate change is up to 97%. 97%. Kinda like the election totals Saddam and Kim Jong Fungoo used to receive, eh?

Posted by: soothsayer at November 02, 2013 02:11 PM (VT1dH)

91 I'm going to say it wasn't until 2007 that the commenting here started to grow, during the 2008 election it exploded.

Posted by: lowandslow at November 02, 2013 02:11 PM (IV4od)

92 It's why tech news reporting is now dominated by blogs like Engadget -- it already was 95% driven by PR firms. Engadget can summarize an Apple press release or a Google dog and pony show as well as the NYT or AP.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 02, 2013 02:11 PM (ZPrif)

93 Lace Wigs and Machines for Sale were the classics. But where is our Muslim Comic? I miss him. A sign off like "Tip the Whores who bring you your sins." is the mark of genius.

Posted by: Mr. Dave at November 02, 2013 02:11 PM (qRD8F)

94 Yeah we comnented a lot in SOME posts. Like the stupid haiku contests.

Posted by: soothsayer at November 02, 2013 02:14 PM (VT1dH)

95 86 >community is smaller and feels more like here circa 04/05.

Fifteen people posting 500 to 900+ comments per week = comment bloat.

Posted by: 13times at November 02, 2013 02:14 PM (fGPLK)

96 Just read the Federal Register every day, you pay your rent with a daily column: What Fresh Hell has Cass Sunstein brought us today?

Posted by: Jean at November 02, 2013 02:14 PM (2aO3a)

97 I'm feeling goodly evil right now. I may not win a fight I'm in at the moment, but I think I'm going to draw blood. And when it comes to folks screwing over others because they don't know what it means to be good stewards of resources, I'm good with at least drawing blood. For the moment, at any rate. I'm also feeling something else right now, but that is another matter. "How much Woodchuck would a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck chucked Woodchuck?"

Posted by: T. at November 02, 2013 02:14 PM (RmAr9)

98 39 FENELON, IF YOU DON"T OPEN THIS ENVELOPE MITCH MCCONNELL AND TED CRUZ WIN!!!

Good; I won't open the envelope. :^)

-----------------------
You could maybe open it halfway . . .
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at November 02, 2013 05:42 PM (d7tB2)

We'll know who to blame if Mitch wins and Cruz loses. Open it halfway on the right side!

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at November 02, 2013 02:14 PM (0wHyk)

99
In our Sunday edition, Why Hillary Doesn't Nuzzle Labia!

Posted by: New York Times at November 02, 2013 02:15 PM (pJF+c)

100 ...now there are too many comments for people like me to follow Just tell people you're getting "briefings".

Posted by: Sir Shanksalot at November 02, 2013 02:15 PM (FcR7P)

101 Posted by: soothsayer at November 02, 2013 05:54 PM (VT1dH) Yeah, that's me. I mostly lurk anymore, except for those rare times I think I might have something interesting to offer.By the time i get to a thread there are already 500 comments and it's staler than a lefty's Palin joke.

Posted by: stace at November 02, 2013 02:15 PM (DX63t)

102 Remember when Hot Air had an average of 300 plus comments per thread? Now they're doing well to get 50. That place took a dive when Morrissey got on board.

Posted by: lowandslow at November 02, 2013 02:15 PM (IV4od)

103 I was here for the b-lA-z melt down. To this day try typing in the name of a popular GM sport utility vehicle and Pixy will slap you silly.

Posted by: Mr. Dave at November 02, 2013 02:15 PM (qRD8F)

104 "meep" hasn't been here in a coon's age she was a good egg, too a genuine math wiz, she was

Posted by: soothsayer at November 02, 2013 02:17 PM (VT1dH)

105 DailyCaller seems to be doing some good stuff

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 02, 2013 02:17 PM (ZPrif)

106 Yeah, I don't even bother reading Morrisey's posts anymore. He's about as interesting as sheetrock. And I agree 100% Stace - being comment # 256 on a thead open for half an hour is a waste of time. Especially when 150 of the comments are from the same 5 hypomaniacs with nothing even close to funny, except maybe the sock's name, to add.

Posted by: Gromulin at November 02, 2013 02:20 PM (1O/uG)

107 66 Spurwing is a sweetheart. That he no longer comments here is our lost. Posted by: Zombie Eddard Stark at November 02, 2013 05:54 PM (mpTrn) Yep, and I used to see him on other sites a lot, sometimes using other bird names for his nick, but I haven't seen him anywhere in a long time. I don't think that's a good sign.

Posted by: stace at November 02, 2013 02:21 PM (DX63t)

108 BIRDZILLA?

Posted by: soothsayer at November 02, 2013 02:22 PM (z1Qro)

109

Back in Bob Dole's day, Bob Dole didn't comment on nothin' that weren't worth commentin' on.

Posted by: Bob Dole at November 02, 2013 02:22 PM (unFST)

110 Spurwing was posting at TDC and on Treachers trawler blog once in a while.

Posted by: 13times at November 02, 2013 02:23 PM (fGPLK)

111 "DailyCaller seems to be doing some good stuff"

Seems like after fucking up that Menendez hooker thing, the investigative stuff hasn't been a priority with them. It seems like all of them get a trigger happy on the investigative stuff, get burnt then back off.

Posted by: lowandslow at November 02, 2013 02:23 PM (IV4od)

112 So who does the most original reporting on the Right? FoxNews? Is there a top ten of alt-right original reporting?

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 02, 2013 02:23 PM (ZPrif)

113 from the same 5 hypomaniacs
Posted by: Gromulin at November 02, 2013 06:20 PM (1O/uG)

maybe it should be 'hypertypomaniacs'...

Posted by: Ian 'Go' Galt at November 02, 2013 02:24 PM (QdOC1)

114 This is a big fucking deal.

Posted by: Joe Biden at November 02, 2013 02:24 PM (Y0Z+z)

115 I've seen a couple attempts but they just weren't actually funny, and the production quality was low.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 02, 2013 05:48 PM (ZPrif)

---

I know its not on TV (it has aspirations for it I'm sure) but Newsbusted came straight to mind.

Sometimes its good, but the laugh track has GOT to go. I think I tried it 4 times, and its just too much for me to take.

Posted by: JarvisW at November 02, 2013 02:25 PM (E7Iyp)

116 "Especially when 150 of the comments are from the same 5 hypomaniacs with nothing even close to funny"

Yeah that's kind of a problem here.

Posted by: lowandslow at November 02, 2013 02:25 PM (IV4od)

117 wickedpinto

Posted by: 13times at November 02, 2013 02:25 PM (fGPLK)

118 I think we should do more in the way of quiet boycotting. Yeah, I know it's just not like us to politicize everything, but maybe we should pay more attention to where we spend money. As someone above said ---I'm too lazy to look --- this doesn't have to be a hairshirt thing. Where the Left holds a monopoly (TV sports, e.g.,) boycotting would really be rough. There may be a movie with a truly nasty moonbat in it that you otherwise are dying to see. But there are many cases where you have choices, where it doesn't hurt you to boycott. I've got a conservative friend who for AGES had Progressive insurance. I ragged on him all the time for it and he finally changed --- and feels good about it.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 02, 2013 02:26 PM (dfYL9)

119 Just was looking at the Breitbart stories -- crazy # of comments. Thousands per article.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 02, 2013 02:27 PM (ZPrif)

120 and here we go with bitchfest..

Posted by: soothsayer at November 02, 2013 02:27 PM (z1Qro)

121 "Especially when 150 of the comments are from the same 5 hypomaniacs with nothing even close to funny"

Yeah that's kind of a problem here.

Posted by: lowandslow at November 02, 2013 06:25 PM (IV4od)

*shifty eyes* Yeah, I agree. *shifty eyes*

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Jeers and More at the Outrage Outlet! at November 02, 2013 02:27 PM (gmoEG)

122 I hate fucking bitchfests.

Posted by: garrett at November 02, 2013 02:28 PM (unFST)

123 Hmmm, Birdzilla...

Posted by: T. at November 02, 2013 02:28 PM (RmAr9)

124 I think the rise of Twitter has me checking Insty less than I used to.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 02, 2013 02:29 PM (ZPrif)

125 in b4 "I saw Bitchfest open for Deborah Harry in 1986"

Posted by: soothsayer at November 02, 2013 02:30 PM (z1Qro)

126 heh remember when AB did a post here and said he was just here to steal the commenters? another classic

Posted by: navycopjoe at November 02, 2013 02:30 PM (qVKcL)

127 "and here we go with bitchfest.. "

I'm not really bitching, nobody's forcing me to read anything. I'm not a fan of the close knit chatroom type feel of the comment section but that's they way it is.

Posted by: lowandslow at November 02, 2013 02:31 PM (IV4od)

128 Is today Festivus??

Posted by: soothsayer at November 02, 2013 02:32 PM (z1Qro)

129 ah, Ace of Spades. What better place to be while giving your kitteh belly rubs?

Posted by: akornzombie at November 02, 2013 02:32 PM (ChI6P)

130 91 I'm going to say it wasn't until 2007 that the commenting here started to grow, during the 2008 election it exploded. Posted by: lowandslow at November 02, 2013 06:11 PM (IV4od) ------------------------- A lot of refugees starting coming in then too. Heh.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 02, 2013 02:33 PM (dfYL9)

131 So which sites have the most active comments section in the right-o-sphere?

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 02, 2013 02:37 PM (ZPrif)

132 I thought I heard that WP deleted someone's blog. Then I think I have seen him posting here since then. Am I on drugs??

Posted by: Zombie Eddard Stark at November 02, 2013 02:38 PM (mpTrn)

133 Nice post, Purp, and so true!

Posted by: Peaches at November 02, 2013 02:39 PM (8lmkt)

134 No bitchfest, just remembering the intersection of my personal timeline with the early days - when Catalano would regularly go off the rails and Ace's comments were less crowded. My kids were 3 and 2 in 2005 and I could sit through the 500th playing of "Springtime with Roo" and surf and learn and laugh with my laptop and the kids happily watching Pooh movies. Like I said - good times.

Posted by: Gromulin at November 02, 2013 02:39 PM (1O/uG)

135 131 I second the motion. Outstanding question.

Posted by: T. at November 02, 2013 02:39 PM (RmAr9)

136 Twitter, if ace could charge to read his stuff there he'd be rolling in it. He and Iowahawk own that medium.

Posted by: lowandslow at November 02, 2013 02:39 PM (IV4od)

137
I wonder how many here originally posted at LGF? Lost track of the names I recognize from that mess.

Posted by: irongrampa at November 02, 2013 02:39 PM (SAMxH)

138 I just stopped by to bitch about the bitching about the bitching about the bitching.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at November 02, 2013 02:39 PM (qyfb5)

139 Heh MdV, I found the HQ in 2008. The refugees were only a tiny trickle and it was still A-listed, when I checked out that place but it seemed off and I recall wondering why it was on so many blog rolls of places I liked.

Posted by: PaleRider at November 02, 2013 02:40 PM (ql12X)

140 Yet, ace has written that he considers twitter a waste - 140 character insults.

Posted by: Zombie Eddard Stark at November 02, 2013 02:41 PM (mpTrn)

141 74 Don't forget, original reporting, while pricy, is also intensely time consuming. A small blogger could do it, but it could take weeks/months of research, many miles driven accessing records not on the internet, doing interviews, etc just to produce a single blog post about something substantial. Yon did it, and turned a few bucks off it, but even he had to have some msm entities backing him for the creds that got him embed gigs. Have you noticed that since Obama took over, embed reporting has kinda tapered off? Posted by: Purp at November 02, 2013 06:00 PM (4tK7k) Stacy McCain still does it the old fashion way, I expect that he has a hat that says "Press". Look what it got him though, he had to move his entire family in the face of credible threats from he who shall not be named and I just dunno how he's affording his legal bill against prog harassers. He still does it though, wearing out the show leather and reporting as much as anything, not just writing commentary. Last of a dying breed.

Posted by: Weirddave at November 02, 2013 02:43 PM (N/cFh)

142 Quit yer bitchin'.

Posted by: garrett at November 02, 2013 02:43 PM (unFST)

143 The Yellowstone Caldera pops its cork every 600,000 years. It has now been 650,000 years without an eruption. We are 50,000 years over due to all die...

Posted by: Zombie Eddard Stark at November 02, 2013 02:43 PM (mpTrn)

144 139 About '07 or '08, and loved it because the head jackass was so honestly righteously earthily blunt sometimes, esp. about Sullivan.

Posted by: T. at November 02, 2013 02:44 PM (RmAr9)

145 Yet, ace has written that he considers twitter a waste - 140 character insults. ...57,445 of which are his. And counting. I think he's taking a shine to it.

Posted by: t-bird at November 02, 2013 02:44 PM (FcR7P)

146 143 Just put some big weights on it.

Posted by: T. at November 02, 2013 02:45 PM (RmAr9)

147 Ace seems to experiment with twitter. He's done some really funny stuff there. Sometimes Twitchy storifies it. Sometimes he's turned a twitter rant into a post. Do twitter and facebook share any of the ad revenue they generate with popular accounts? That's how youtube works.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 02, 2013 02:45 PM (ZPrif)

148 145 Yet, ace has written that he considers twitter a waste - 140 character insults. ...57,445 of which are his. And counting. I think he's taking a shine to it. Posted by: t-bird at November 02, 2013 06:44 PM (FcR7P) But, when he's on twitter he's not with ...us.

Posted by: Zombie Eddard Stark at November 02, 2013 02:46 PM (mpTrn)

149 I miss how we use to be able to call each other "Homo!" -- but in a loving way...

Posted by: Zombie Eddard Stark at November 02, 2013 02:48 PM (mpTrn)

150 So which sites have the most active comments section in the right-o-sphere?

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 02, 2013 06:37 PM (ZPrif)

You're soaking in it!!

Posted by: Madge at November 02, 2013 02:48 PM (8lmkt)

151 Surprised there isn't some 3-5 minutes right-wing day-in-review or week-in-review youtube channel. That sort of thing seems popular for sports and pop culture. Seems like a # of sites have had success with that format. Fast-paced, snarky -- here's all the stupid shit in UFC this week. Here's the stupid shit in movies this week. Here's the stupid shit in comics this week. Key with popular youtube channels seems to be keeping it short. Once you start hitting 10+ minutes, people bail. No time.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 02, 2013 02:49 PM (ZPrif)

152 149 Well, we are all Homo....

Posted by: T. at November 02, 2013 02:50 PM (RmAr9)

153 Purp stomped on his own thread.

Posted by: Zombie Eddard Stark at November 02, 2013 02:50 PM (mpTrn)

154 "But, when he's on twitter he's not with ...us."

When he gets on a Twitter role on some political subject, you can make book there will post shortly. It's like he can be throwing daggers and writing a synapses at the same time.

Posted by: lowandslow at November 02, 2013 02:52 PM (IV4od)

155 137 I wonder how many here originally posted at LGF? Lost track of the names I recognize from that mess. Posted by: irongrampa at November 02, 2013 06:39 PM (SAMxH) ------------------ Quite a few, some with their old nics and some with new ones.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 02, 2013 02:53 PM (dfYL9)

156 Surprised there isn't some 3-5 minutes right-wing day-in-review or week-in-review youtube channel.

Video is high tech bandwidth, low information bandwidth. Its a very inefficient way to convey information. A simple list of links like the morning news dump here is way faster to scan and lets you pick/choose like a Chinese menu

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at November 02, 2013 02:53 PM (4tK7k)

157 Checking in really quick, then back to Saturday things.

I'm liking the vintage posts! I've mentioned this before, but it would be wonderful if there was a format where one could collect many of Ace's classic posts and compile them into one condensed body of work...I think it rhymes with "look"? Maybe release it next year on the anniversary of the blog as part o the celebrations? I would totes buy such a thing thru the Amazon portal, if such a thing existed. Would be fun to put the posts, as is being done here, into context and see how things differed or mimicked what Ace posted or predicted. Just a thought!

"Always be branding" is the new "always be closing," Ace. But I constantly have marketing on the brain, so take or ignore my suggestion as desired.

Posted by: LizLem at November 02, 2013 02:53 PM (ijXVY)

158 the animated GIF of that clown in Toronto was just too compelling...I couldn't resist.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at November 02, 2013 02:54 PM (4tK7k)

159 Video is high tech bandwidth, low information bandwidth. Its a very inefficient way to convey information.

Glad you said that, Purp. When I click on something interesting, if it's a video, I hit the back button immediately. Just put it in words and I'm happy. Ain't got no time to watch no stinkin' video bullshit.

Posted by: Peaches at November 02, 2013 02:54 PM (8lmkt)

160 Need to post "...If you touch my fucking hoagie". God I loved that post.

Posted by: Gromulin at November 02, 2013 02:55 PM (1O/uG)

161 Vid is better for reaching non-geek casuals though. And a popular youtube channel makes actual cash money. There's a significant # of people making livings off of popular youtube channels. Don't think anybody's making a living off a popular twitter feed.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 02, 2013 02:57 PM (ZPrif)

162 151 --- Wish you were a billionaire. You have a lot of good ideas.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 02, 2013 02:58 PM (dfYL9)

163 159 Glad you said that, Purp. When I click on something interesting, if it's a video, I hit the back button immediately. Just put it in words and I'm happy. Ain't got no time to watch no stinkin' video bullshit. Posted by: Peaches at November 02, 2013 06:54 PM (8lmkt) --------------- I'm exactly the same as you in that respect -----BUT the kids seem to prefer video. *sigh*

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 02, 2013 03:00 PM (dfYL9)

164 Different formats for different audiences. The more casual interest I have in subject, the more I prefer a summary video. The more expertise I have in a field, the more I want just straight text.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 02, 2013 03:05 PM (ZPrif)

165 Good video is very labor intensive to produce. You gotta edit the shit out of the raw footage to keep people's eyes from glazing over.

When I was actively shooting skydive footage some years ago it would take me several hours to edit a half hour of my raw freefall footage down to two minutes worth that wasn't boring.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at November 02, 2013 03:07 PM (4tK7k)

166 Many thanks Ace.

Posted by: simplemind at November 02, 2013 03:14 PM (hTeQK)

167 Glad you said that, Purp. When I click on something interesting, if it's a video, I hit the back button immediately. Just put it in words and I'm happy. Ain't got no time to watch no stinkin' video bullshit.
Posted by: Peaches at November 02, 2013 06:54 PM

It takes even more time since most videos are precluded by a commercial lasting from 15 seconds to 2 minutes

Posted by: kbdabear at November 02, 2013 03:18 PM (aTXUx)

168 Yeah, I know. I'm not saying you guys need to do it. Just saying it's a popular format on youtube.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 02, 2013 03:22 PM (ZPrif)

169 Peaches -- Totally agree. If it goes to a video, I back-button. I only have a 5-gig data plan, so videos are blinkin' expensive. Besides, I can read faster than I can watch, so I very rarely look at videos. Especially if it's something like an interview!

Posted by: Empire1 at November 02, 2013 04:16 PM (/fG0o)

170 "When I click on something interesting, if it's a video, I hit the back button immediately. Just put it in words and I'm happy. Ain't got no time to watch no stinkin' video bullshit." ^ THIS

Posted by: Mercanary Soul at November 02, 2013 04:31 PM (+bV5b)

171 Posted by: Mercanary Soul at November 02, 2013 08:31 PM (+bV5b)

Right you are!

Posted by: Hrothgar at November 02, 2013 04:33 PM (XdnQT)

172 Also, goddam pop-ups on Breitbart and American Thinker are really pissin me off..And, Weasel Zippers is now # 3 after AoS and Drudge....long as there no goddam pop up ads...fuck i hate that shit

Posted by: Mercenary Soul at November 02, 2013 04:34 PM (+bV5b)

173 Sorry, Ace. Don't remember much of 05. Cancer that year. Were we real stupid politically speaking?

Posted by: EROWMER at November 02, 2013 04:35 PM (OONaw)

174 5 comments. Amazing.

Posted by: toby928© at November 02, 2013 05:01 PM (QupBk)

175

Malkin is a more interesting case: old-media who broke into new media. I remember her syndicated columns in the Houston Post in the '90s.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at November 02, 2013 05:36 PM (d7tB2)

If by "broke" you mean "rewrote the book", you're not far off.

Posted by: steveegg at November 02, 2013 05:04 PM (o44nj)

176

Hey now! No disparaging "ankle biters"! Australian Cattle Dogs are ankle biters and they're pretty danged effective herders! (We bought a lot of new socks the first few years we had ours, as she would try to herd us if you broke into a run on the lawn.)

Posted by: GWB at November 04, 2013 07:37 AM (kEVTZ)

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