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November 05, 2013

Ace of Spades HQ Decision Desk: VA, NJ, NYC, AL-1 Results
— CAC

Welcome to the November 2013 Election Night Results Thread.
Very bare bones, as funds have been diverted to drugs, new staff, and space exploration, but mainly drugs.

New Jersey Governor
23%IN
CALL- Chris Christie has won re-election, margin all that's left to be decided.
R Chris Christie 57.5%
D Barbara Buono 41%

Virginia Governor
81%IN
CALL- McAuliffe has won based on bellweather county results
R Ken Cuccinelli 47.2%
D Terry McAuliffe 45.9%
L Robert Sarvis 6.9%

Virginia Lieutenant Governor
80%IN
CALL- RALPH NORTHAM HAS WON (just on preliminary county returns) 711PM EST
R E. W. Jackson 46.5%
D Ralph Northam 53.5%

Virginia Attorney General
80%IN
CALL
D Mark Herring 48%
R Mark Obenshain 52%

NYC Mayoral Race
0%IN
CALL- de Blasio has won
D Bill de Blasio 0%
R Joe Lhota 0%

Boston Mayor
26%IN
CALL for MARTIN WALSH
D John Connolly 49%
D Martin Walsh 51%

Alabama 1st Congressional District
58%IN
CALL FOR BYRNE
R Bradley Byrne 52%
R Dean Young 48%

Posted by: CAC at 02:55 PM | Comments (1405)
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1 Yup. Pretty much what I expected

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 05, 2013 02:56 PM (t3UFN)

2 I'll be. I don't know what I'll be for sure, but I'll be it.

Posted by: Joethefatman™ (@joethefatman1) at November 05, 2013 02:57 PM (MnSla)

3 ROFL.

Posted by: Mama AJ at November 05, 2013 02:57 PM (SUKHu)

4 You must be that CAC person who isn't doing an election coverage thread.

Posted by: Boss Moss the Redskin Savage at November 05, 2013 02:57 PM (Kud5A)

5 So, nothing? I would support nothing for the federal govt. I would vote for nothing. I've been voting for something and then getting sold out. I think I'd prefer to vote for nothing. Nothing couldn't steal from me and then spend it recklessly.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 05, 2013 02:57 PM (GEICT)

6 It looks like Cucc will lose but what about down ticket?

Posted by: hello, it's me also a creep-assed cracka.. at November 05, 2013 02:58 PM (9+ccr)

7 You should add Colorado amendment 66 if the thread lasts that long. Its a stealth income tax increase. Very little opposition ads that I saw, and even the ballot itself does not spell out the rise in income tax rates. We were inundated with ads in 2012, all the Romney ads no one else saw --we got them, crazily heavily during the "news shows" --that has got to change. the GOP or if we get a real opposition party someday should refuse to subsidize the DNC P/R arm in future.

Posted by: palerider at November 05, 2013 03:00 PM (dkExz)

8 If you like your fat, tub-o-lard gun-grabbing Governor, you can keep your fat, tub-o-lard gun-grabbing Governor

Posted by: Chris Christie at November 05, 2013 03:00 PM (Pr6hk)

9 It looks like Cucc will lose but what about down ticket? Posted by: hello, it's me also a creep-assed cracka.. at November 05, 2013 06:58 PM (9+ccr) Maybe a conservative AG to keep tabs on him.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at November 05, 2013 03:01 PM (XIxXP)

10 Very bare bones $500 million just doesn't go as far as it used to.

Posted by: t-bird at November 05, 2013 03:01 PM (FcR7P)

11 8 If you like your fat, tub-o-lard gun-grabbing Governor, you can keep your fat, tub-o-lard gun-grabbing Governor Posted by: Chris Christie at November 05, 2013 07:00 PM (Pr6hk) But he's the kind of candidate the Republicans need.... Thank you the MSM

Posted by: hello, it's me also a creep-assed cracka.. at November 05, 2013 03:01 PM (9+ccr)

12 Everything shows zero. Am I missing the secret AoSHQ webz codes?

Posted by: Soona at November 05, 2013 03:02 PM (JvRFW)

13 GO DEMOCRATS!!!! WOOHOO!!!!!!! oops, this isn't dailykos my bad

Posted by: navycopjoe drunk on GB tears YUMMY!! at November 05, 2013 03:03 PM (xHFxB)

14 So are Virginians going to abort their state finances by electing the used car salesman wanna be???

Posted by: Dr. Gosnell at November 05, 2013 03:03 PM (Pr6hk)

15 12 Everything shows zero. Am I missing the secret AoSHQ webz codes? 7 pt. lead for Mc asshole via exit polls...

Posted by: hello, it's me also a creep-assed cracka.. at November 05, 2013 03:03 PM (9+ccr)

16 what difference does it make? we're screwed....

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at November 05, 2013 03:04 PM (8JJ6O)

17 Christie: "I'm a conservative, not a moderate." Gov, the fact that you feel the need to say such a thing destroys your assertion before you finish the sentence.

Posted by: Meremortal, Low Info Mofo at November 05, 2013 03:04 PM (1Y+hH)

18 *running a fever, hacking up a lung or two*

Voted against SLOST today here in Chatham County, GA.

And, Oh Joy! Jason Carter, Jimmuh's far left liberal grandson, is threatening to run for Goobernator.

Yay! *hack hack*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 05, 2013 03:05 PM (lVPtV)

19 Did the GOP out there fuck up that bad? Or was it the candidate?

Posted by: West Coast Lurker at November 05, 2013 03:05 PM (F6KtL)

20 18 Christie: "I'm a conservative, not a moderate." Gov, the fact that you feel the need to say such a thing destroys your assertion before you finish the sentence. Posted by: Meremortal, Low Info Mofo at November 05, 2013 07:04 PM (1Y+hH) conservatively he weighs 300lbs

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at November 05, 2013 03:05 PM (8JJ6O)

21 It's 7 there right? So are there numbers? West coast here.

Posted by: petunia at November 05, 2013 03:05 PM (DAcBA)

22 Not enough drugs for me to go to NJ. PERIOD. . .

Posted by: Golfman in NC at November 05, 2013 03:05 PM (q1C00)

23 I see Fox is pushing the Fat Man hard for 2016. They make the incredible claim that a win in NJ means a lot for 2016.

How does a vote in NJ rank up there for the vote in SC. SC voters are not going to vote for a NE liberal gun grabber.

Posted by: Vic at November 05, 2013 03:06 PM (zZbNF)

24 Someone break out the Dry Erase boards

Posted by: The Dude at November 05, 2013 03:06 PM (vJdyz)

25 CAC, is your new hot wife staff? Viagra, it's a hell of a drug. Everything shows zero. 12 Soona at November 05, 2013 07:02 PM AOS Platinum membership, with more & & Â§ Â‡.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 05, 2013 03:06 PM (u82oZ)

26 Hey, Vic. What do you think the odds are of Miss Lindsey being re-elected?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 05, 2013 03:06 PM (lVPtV)

27 If you like your election results, you can keep your election results.

Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at November 05, 2013 03:06 PM (jf8y6)

28 Well I voted against 66. It was an obvious priority for the Axelturfers

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at November 05, 2013 03:07 PM (oCZT9)

29 -R? I misspoke.

Posted by: Chris Christie -R at November 05, 2013 03:07 PM (FcR7P)

30 Who did the dead people vote for this time?

Posted by: Boss Moss the Redskin Savage at November 05, 2013 03:07 PM (Kud5A)

31 conservatively he weighs 300lbs Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at November 05, 2013 07:05 PM (8JJ6O) He's weigh north of 300.....sorry

Posted by: BignJames at November 05, 2013 03:08 PM (ZNQKl)

32 How does a vote in NJ rank up there for the vote in SC. SC voters are not going to vote for a NE liberal gun grabber. Posted by: Vic at November 05, 2013 07:06 PM (zZbNF) You'll vote for who we tell you to vote for. Because Hillary!

Posted by: GOP at November 05, 2013 03:08 PM (j0wOO)

33 28 If you like your election results, you can keep your election results. Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at November 05, 2013 07:06 PM (jf8y6) if "we" liked our election results, you would extend voting hours and bus out of staters in to right that wrong......

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at November 05, 2013 03:08 PM (8JJ6O)

34 If you like your election results, you can keep your election results.

Hahahahahahaha!

Posted by: Uriah Heep at November 05, 2013 03:08 PM (jhI6f)

35 With 0% of the precincts in, I predict NBC will call the race for TM.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 05, 2013 03:08 PM (DmNpO)

36 Hello Vic. Look forward to the AM if you are able or available. Hope all is well.

Posted by: Golfman in NC at November 05, 2013 03:08 PM (q1C00)

37 Speaking of exit polls: @BretBaier: Fox News Exit Poll NJ: #2016 vote 4 President #Clinton vs. #Christie. Thoughts? pic.twitter.com/U5L3KiG53P Obviously this is because Chris Christie is one of those icky Catholic pro-lifers.

Posted by: Y-not (@MoxieMom) at November 05, 2013 03:09 PM (5H6zj)

38 Zero-Zero. It's a metaphor, or something.

Posted by: toby928© blurts at November 05, 2013 03:09 PM (QupBk)

39 Is the deceased population of Virginia as big as the deceased population of Ohio and Chicago?

Posted by: zombie at November 05, 2013 03:10 PM (+cx5n)

40 conservatively he weighs 300lbs Posted by: phoenixgirl ... ... ... Heh. And I'd give him a pass for that if his record agreed with some of his mouthings.

Posted by: Meremortal, Low Info Mofo at November 05, 2013 03:10 PM (1Y+hH)

41 27 Hey, Vic. What do you think the odds are of Miss Lindsey being re-elected?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 05, 2013 07:06 PM (lVPtV)

Probably about even. Incumbents normally are reelected 95% of the time.

Posted by: Vic at November 05, 2013 03:10 PM (zZbNF)

42 How does a vote in NJ rank up there for the vote in SC. SC voters are not going to vote for a NE liberal gun grabber.

Posted by: Vic at November 05, 2013 07:06 PM (zZbNF)

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2016 is a long way away. There may be major cardiac problems between now and then. Just his obese lifestyle should give anyone looking forward a reflective pause.

Posted by: Soona at November 05, 2013 03:10 PM (JvRFW)

43 Wow. Not surprisingly, MSDNC is rooting for the Fat Man to run against the Hildebeast in 2016.

Still trying to figure out how the liberal hive-mind thinks.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 05, 2013 03:10 PM (lVPtV)

44 Posted by: boulder toilet hobo Yeah, me too. Just another brick in the wall. Colorado regards,

Posted by: Meremortal, Low Info Mofo at November 05, 2013 03:11 PM (1Y+hH)

45 Didn't Crispy Kreme have gastric bypass?

Posted by: Jen at November 05, 2013 03:11 PM (YM8HR)

46 37 Hope all is well.

Posted by: Golfman in NC at November 05, 2013 07:08 PM (q1C00)

Everything is fine.

Posted by: Vic at November 05, 2013 03:11 PM (zZbNF)

47 Speaking of exit polls

How do you say 'exit polls' in spanish? I need to prepare for our new overlords, I already have the ebonics down.

Posted by: Uriah Heep at November 05, 2013 03:11 PM (jhI6f)

48 42 27 Hey, Vic. What do you think the odds are of Miss Lindsey being re-elected?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 05, 2013 07:06 PM (lVPtV)

Probably about even. Incumbents normally are reelected 95% of the time.

Posted by: Vic at November 05, 2013 07:10 PM (zZbNF)

Jeebus. Get your fellow S. Carolinians to Wake The Fuck Up and boot that RINO out.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 05, 2013 03:12 PM (lVPtV)

49 Is that last bit a typo or are both candidates in Alabama's 1st district Republicans?

Posted by: Dr. Weevil at November 05, 2013 03:12 PM (z3eU6)

50 Wow. Not surprisingly, MSDNC is rooting for the Fat Man to run against the Hildebeast in 2016. Still trying to figure out how the liberal hive-mind thinks. Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 05, 2013 07:10 PM (lVPtV) Going by Christie's record, it'd be a win- win for them. Heck, if it comes to that, they'll probably start rooting to go back to the old days where the loser became VP.

Posted by: Damiano the Economic Traitor at November 05, 2013 03:12 PM (j0wOO)

51 I may be coming down with pneumonia. Seriously.

Ugh.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 05, 2013 03:12 PM (lVPtV)

52 Is that last bit a typo or are both candidates in Alabama's 1st district Republicans? It's a run-off, but might as well be the general. No Democrat has a chance in District 1.

Posted by: toby928© blurts at November 05, 2013 03:13 PM (QupBk)

53 Jeebus. Get your fellow S. Carolinians to Wake The Fuck Up and boot that RINO out.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 05, 2013 07:12 PM (lVPtV)

From what I have seen he may be in trouble this time.

Posted by: Vic at November 05, 2013 03:14 PM (zZbNF)

54 A special election for Alabama's 1st congressional district will be held following the resignation of Jo Bonner on August 2 to become vice chancellor for the University of Alabama. Primary elections were held on September 24. A runoff in the Republican primary will take place on November 5 and the general election will be pushed back to December 17. You may now continue.

Posted by: @SOEarpiece at November 05, 2013 03:14 PM (QupBk)

55 If you like your AR15, you can keep your AR15. If you like your 30-round magazines, you can keep your 30-round magazines.

Honest.

Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at November 05, 2013 03:15 PM (jf8y6)

56 can't pick which to be bored with, huge fight in EVE or watch polls

Posted by: The Dude at November 05, 2013 03:15 PM (vJdyz)

57 From what I have seen he may be in trouble this time.

Posted by: Vic at November 05, 2013 07:14 PM (zZbNF)

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The polls from a week ago didn't look too good for him.

Posted by: Soona at November 05, 2013 03:16 PM (JvRFW)

58 From what I have seen he may be in trouble this time.

Posted by: Vic at November 05, 2013 07:14 PM (zZbNF)

He seems to smell blood in the water recently.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 05, 2013 03:16 PM (lVPtV)

59 >>> CALL- RALPH NORTHAM HAS WON ... If this idiot won, VA is truly lost.

Posted by: Damiano the Economic Traitor at November 05, 2013 03:16 PM (j0wOO)

60 Ralph Northam's the white Dem who refused to shake the hand of his black Republican opponent, isn't he? If roles were reversed, Northam would've been declared a hood-wearing member of the KKK.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at November 05, 2013 03:16 PM (KL49F)

61 Just got in from voting at my precinct in Virginia. Light turn out. I live in a heavily, heavily Democratic district. I saw two other voters, a Hispanic mom and an old white dude. Me and the mom accepted the Republican sample ballot and glared at the Democrat poll worker when he tried to push a Democrat sample ballot on her. That surprised me. I know the old white dude personally, he's part of a gay couple that live near me. Of course he took the Democrat ballot, I wasn't surprised. He seemed surprised that I took the GOP ballot however. I've always treated him square and been friendly to him. Looked like he was making the typical (and ever more present) Democratic calculus that "the personal is political". Kinda, "NO! You're not a dirty 'bagger, are you?"

Posted by: Cowboy at November 05, 2013 03:17 PM (f73Jj)

62 Ralph Northam's the white Dem who refused to shake the hand of his black Republican opponent, isn't he? If roles were reversed, Northam would've been declared a hood-wearing member of the KKK.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at November 05, 2013 07:16 PM (KL49F)

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Haven't you heard? Democrats aren't racist.

Posted by: Soona at November 05, 2013 03:18 PM (JvRFW)

63 The first VA precincts are in. cucc 52.9 Mcauliffe 37.3 Sarvis 9.9

As in less than 1% of precincts, so woohoo for now

Posted by: mrp at November 05, 2013 03:19 PM (HjPtV)

64 Right now we are winning every fucking thing! Good work CAC!

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 05, 2013 03:19 PM (0FSuD)

65 Cowboy said: I know the old white dude personally, he's part of a gay couple that live near me. Of course he took the Democrat ballot, I wasn't surprised. He seemed surprised that I took the GOP ballot however. I've always treated him square and been friendly to him. Looked like he was making the typical (and ever more present) Democratic calculus that "the personal is political".

Get ready for your mail to be stuck together. Politics is exclusively personal to them.

Posted by: Uriah Heep at November 05, 2013 03:19 PM (jhI6f)

66 Per Drudge: CUCCINELLI 52.8%
MCAULIFFE 37.3%

Praying this holds...!

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at November 05, 2013 03:19 PM (KL49F)

67 So this is gonna be an all Democrat night in Virginia?

Posted by: hello, it's me also a creep-assed cracka.. at November 05, 2013 03:19 PM (9+ccr)

68 Drudge head fake?

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at November 05, 2013 03:20 PM (xz0nG)

69 Drudge has some numbers up. Conflicting numbers.

Posted by: navybrat at November 05, 2013 03:20 PM (6cAYm)

70
The first VA precincts are in. cucc 52.9 Mcauliffe 37.3 Sarvis 9.9

As in less than 1% of precincts, so woohoo for now

Yeah, the smaller precincts. It'll end up tilting for Mcauliffe as the larger precincts start coming in, (especially The DC suburbs).

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at November 05, 2013 03:21 PM (0IhFx)

71 Drudge has some numbers up. Conflicting numbers. Reminds me unfortunately of last year at this time...

Posted by: hello, it's me also a creep-assed cracka.. at November 05, 2013 03:21 PM (9+ccr)

72 CAC calls it for Mcauliffe.

Posted by: Damiano the Economic Traitor at November 05, 2013 03:21 PM (j0wOO)

73 I think Matt is toying with us.

Posted by: Boss Moss the Redskin Savage at November 05, 2013 03:21 PM (Kud5A)

74 Any states that vote for a Dem deserve whatever the fuck they get.

In GA, Jason Carter, Jimmuh's grandson, is threatening to run for gov.

And the libs are ecstatic.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 05, 2013 03:21 PM (lVPtV)

75 It's early. We're only sampling from the outlying counties which are Republican.

Just wait until the urban areas come in.

Posted by: Uriah Heep at November 05, 2013 03:21 PM (jhI6f)

76 The first VA precincts are in. cucc 52.9 Mcauliffe 37.3 Sarvis 9.9

As in less than 1% of precincts, so woohoo for now

Posted by: mrp at November 05, 2013 07:19 PM (HjPtV)

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Okaaaay! On a roll. Maybe. Perhaps. So, mrp. How long do you think this will last?

Posted by: Soona at November 05, 2013 03:22 PM (JvRFW)

77 Will there be a ball dipping station at the HQ tonight?

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at November 05, 2013 03:22 PM (jucos)

78 See, how do you pull back from this abyss? Hate Obamacare. Hate what its doing. Still vote democrat. And that's a purple state. There is no saving this country from this.

Posted by: Rich at November 05, 2013 03:22 PM (3nUrQ)

79 Is there any Rep. in Virginia down ticket that has a chance?

Posted by: hello, it's me also a creep-assed cracka.. at November 05, 2013 03:22 PM (9+ccr)

80 In our local races the new mayor is the protege of a nasty black racist councilman who has been annoying the city since the 80s. She's going to be great. I didn't bother to vote. Gop didn't run anybody and the ones they did were double ticketed with socialist parties anyhow.

Posted by: Bigby's Boxing Gloves at November 05, 2013 03:22 PM (UABIw)

81 Best election map here: http://www.nytimes.com/projects/elections/2013/general/virginia/map.html

Posted by: Bill Mitchell at November 05, 2013 03:22 PM (+9xNn)

82 Virginia Governor 1%IN CALL- McAuliffe has won based on bellweather county results R Ken Cuccinelli 52% D Terry McAuliffe 48% Well, that was fast. Good night.

Posted by: zombie at November 05, 2013 03:23 PM (+cx5n)

83
Wondering where CAC is getting his numbers....they don't match VA's official results.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at November 05, 2013 03:23 PM (0IhFx)

Ironically, I have nothing to vote on tonight.

Rather surprising, considering how many ballot propositions there usually are in California.

Posted by: junior at November 05, 2013 03:24 PM (UWFpX)

85 Wondering where CAC is getting his numbers....they don't match VA's official results. It's all about turnout and exit polls...

Posted by: hello, it's me also a creep-assed cracka.. at November 05, 2013 03:24 PM (9+ccr)

86 Time to call it a day folks.

Posted by: Vic at November 05, 2013 03:24 PM (zZbNF)

87 It's a longer way to Tipperary than I thought.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 05, 2013 03:24 PM (oFCZn)

88 Spittle just said Cucch. is against divorce unless you beat the ol lady.

Posted by: redenzo at November 05, 2013 03:24 PM (vx61Q)

89 Every time MSNBC says this VA vote is a vote for gun control you must drink. OK, who's going to watch that bag of shit station? Should we just start drinking? OK.

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 05, 2013 03:25 PM (0FSuD)

90 87 Time to call it a day folks. Posted by: Vic at November 05, 2013 07:24 PM (zZbNF) Still on DST time?

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 05, 2013 03:26 PM (0FSuD)

91 Ok, I'll put my balls away. No dipping tonight.

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at November 05, 2013 03:26 PM (jucos)

92 So now do we have to listen to the talking heads telling us the tea party is dead and Christie is our only hope?

Posted by: hello, it's me also a creep-assed cracka.. at November 05, 2013 03:26 PM (9+ccr)

93 I blame the RNC for the loss ( apparent lose) in VA.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 05, 2013 03:26 PM (t3UFN)

94 So now do we have to listen to the talking heads telling us the tea party is dead and Christie is our only hope? Yep.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 05, 2013 03:27 PM (23Kgq)

95 Christie: "I'm a conservative, not a moderate." I'll bet he wasn't challenged on this patent load of bullshit, either.

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at November 05, 2013 03:27 PM (vd7A8)

96 Okaaaay! On a roll. Maybe. Perhaps. So, mrp. How long do you think this will last? Posted by: Soona

Not very. But I think Cuccione will beat the last Quinnipiac poll numbers.

Posted by: mrp at November 05, 2013 03:27 PM (HjPtV)

97 My gawd...how the hell can that pos McAulliffe win? "Virginia is for whack jobs"

Posted by: Kawfytawk at November 05, 2013 03:27 PM (EY4Et)

98 3% of VA in, all Rs up by good margins--website is slow, so can't see where these precincts are tho. When the big blue ones come in, who knows? Turnout pretty light in Loudoun today

Posted by: barbarausa at November 05, 2013 03:28 PM (WWeoI)

99 See, how do you pull back from this abyss? Hate Obamacare. Hate what its doing. Still vote democrat. And that's a purple state. how about those NJ exits? love Christie, hate Obamacare, would still vote Shrillary over Christie of. course.

Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 05, 2013 03:28 PM (2up3Q)

100 shit mc shits

Posted by: joeindc44 is totally not on Soros's pay now...right? at November 05, 2013 03:28 PM (QxSug)

101 So now do we have to listen to the talking heads telling us the tea party is dead and Christie is our only hope?

Posted by: hello, it's me also a creep-assed cracka.. at November 05, 2013 07:26 PM (9+ccr)

_________________

Exactly. We must accept fat boys version of Dummycrat light or we are doomed. Just like accepting President McCain and President Romney.

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at November 05, 2013 03:28 PM (jucos)

102 barbarausa at November 05, 2013 07:28 PM (WWeoI) Sorry it looks like the fat lady has already sung in Virginia...

Posted by: hello, it's me also a creep-assed cracka.. at November 05, 2013 03:29 PM (9+ccr)

103 Okay, VA. You deserve your misery. Fucking LIVs.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 05, 2013 03:29 PM (lVPtV)

104 Why is Drudge teasing us with the Cooch over 50%

Posted by: Iblis at November 05, 2013 03:29 PM (9221z)

105 Per Drudge CUCCINELLI 51.7%
MCAULIFFE 40.5%

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at November 05, 2013 03:30 PM (KL49F)

106 Fuck. Well, time to look at houses 30 minutes away in Moyock, NC.

Posted by: VBJonny at November 05, 2013 03:30 PM (ai/YP)

107 Doesn't matter what the count is....the heavy Dem counties in NoVa always count last. And they count enough votes for the Dem to win. This happens very fucking election, and the GOP does nothing about it.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 05, 2013 03:30 PM (QI9SE)

108 106 Per Drudge CUCCINELLI 51.7% MCAULIFFE 40.5% Misleading. The rural counties come in first and they are for the most part Conservative. The big lib ones come in later...

Posted by: hello, it's me also a creep-assed cracka.. at November 05, 2013 03:31 PM (9+ccr)

109 >>>I blame the RNC for the loss ( apparent lose) in VA.

Sure, let's blame the Establishment (because that's easy and every Right Thinker hates them) rather than looking long and hard at the candidate himself.

If the candidate is sufficiently conservative, then it CAN'T be his fault if he loses a winnable race, amirite? It must have been a stab in the back.

Posted by: Jeff B. at November 05, 2013 03:31 PM (n/+FT)

110 via twitter: exit polls show moderates broke for McAuliffe 57 - 31 percent. eeek

Posted by: ace at November 05, 2013 03:31 PM (/FnUH)

111 only 3% of VA precincts in--I'll wait.

Posted by: barbarausa at November 05, 2013 03:31 PM (WWeoI)

112 Last week I caught some of the hearings on Obamacare, and some Democrat congressman from Jersey (Pallone, I think) was whining that they were even having a hearing.

Question for the horde: If Christie ate him on live TV, would that help him mend fences with the base?

Posted by: The Lost Dutchman at November 05, 2013 03:31 PM (9F2c1)

113 how about those NJ exits? love Christie, hate Obamacare, would still vote Shrillary over Christie **** look, it's over. We need to go dormant. and by we, I have no idea. It's like the country has changed and the loyal opposition party has no idea what wedge issue it can use to even exist.

Posted by: joeindc44 is totally not on Soros's pay now...right? at November 05, 2013 03:31 PM (QxSug)

114 107 Fuck. Well, time to look at houses 30 minutes away in Moyock, NC. Posted by: VBJonny at November 05, 2013 07:30 PM (ai/YP) Don't bother. Head to SC.

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 05, 2013 03:31 PM (0FSuD)

115 105 Why is Drudge teasing us with the Cooch over 50% Posted by: Iblis at November 05, 2013 07:29 PM (9221z) ____________ Because after the 1st person posted that Cooch is leading, 50 people went to drudge to check it out. Capitalism baby!!

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 05, 2013 03:31 PM (QI9SE)

116 Gov, the fact that you feel the need to say such a thing destroys your assertion before you finish the sentence.
Posted by: Meremortal, Low Info Mofo at November 05, 2013 07:04 PM (1Y+hH)

I am not a crook.

Posted by: Trick E. Dick at November 05, 2013 03:32 PM (H0R/1)

117 Question for the horde: If Christie ate him on live TV, would that help him mend fences with the base? like, raw? wait, ate him how?

Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 05, 2013 03:32 PM (2up3Q)

118 Did someone say drugs?

Posted by: Rob Ford at November 05, 2013 03:32 PM (XWw96)

119 If Christie ate him on live TV, would that help him mend fences with the base? Posted by: The Lost Dutchman at November 05, 2013 07:31 PM (9F2c1) Scqungilli Pallone? Maybe

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 05, 2013 03:32 PM (t3UFN)

120 >>>Why is Drudge teasing us with the Cooch over 50% because he's a huckster who thinks conservatives are fucking stupid and unfortunately he's 30% right so he puts out stupid bait like this, ignoring the fact that these results are from specific counties (which lean R) and not general statewide results

Posted by: ace at November 05, 2013 03:32 PM (/FnUH)

121 Tea Party ain't dead. The Republicans are, however.

Posted by: Bigby's Boxing Gloves at November 05, 2013 03:32 PM (MLEqw)

122 FWIW, someone on twitter said a Republican source told him that turnout in GOP areas was high...

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at November 05, 2013 03:32 PM (KL49F)

123 If VA goes for that Clinton tool, McAuliffe, well, fuck the state.

Hope they enjoy their Obamahell.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 05, 2013 03:33 PM (lVPtV)

124 I guess if you want to get elected to any office you must master the art of bald face lying ON VIDEO with a straight frickin face and if you can cover it up with another bull shit lie you can be emperor of the United States...I honestly cannot take this anymore madness anymore

Posted by: Kawfytawk at November 05, 2013 03:33 PM (EY4Et)

125 Drudge has Cuccinelli at 52.3%

Posted by: CarolT at November 05, 2013 03:33 PM (z4WKX)

126 115 107 Fuck. Well, time to look at houses 30 minutes away in Moyock, NC.
Posted by: VBJonny at November 05, 2013 07:30 PM (ai/YP)
Don't bother. Head to SC.
Posted by: Nip Sip at November 05, 2013 07:31 PM (0FSuD)
Maybe Belize.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at November 05, 2013 03:33 PM (H0R/1)

127 Why is Drudge teasing us with the Cooch over 50% because he's a huckster who thinks conservatives are fucking stupid and unfortunately he's 30% right so he puts out stupid bait like this, ignoring the fact that these results are from specific counties (which lean R) and not general statewide results Posted by: ace at November 05, 2013 07:32 PM (/FnUH) We're talking about Drudge aren't we?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 05, 2013 03:33 PM (t3UFN)

128 Is Sarvis actually gets 10% or anywhere close to it... a. The GOP is beyond stupid since it didn't call out that Sarvis is a Dem plant b. Proves there are as many LIVs on the right as there are on the left if these people actually thought they were voting for a libertarian c. The country is beyond fucked (but that's with or without Sarvis)

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 05, 2013 03:33 PM (QI9SE)

129 "Don't bother. Head to SC." I would, but with young kids it's nice to be near my parents. My inlaws on the other hand...

Posted by: VBJonny at November 05, 2013 03:34 PM (ai/YP)

130 Loudoun was light, and it went raging blue Obama 2012

Posted by: barbarausa at November 05, 2013 03:34 PM (WWeoI)

131 In Va, Cucc was massively outspent. There was a very effective smear campaign that he wanted to ban vaginas and tampons and menstruation (he lost single women by 40-50 pts). The shutdown hurt the Repub brand in govt worker NoVa. And the sitting gov McD was mired in a corruption scandal, further hurting the Repub brand. Those who don't bother to look at the details of what actually happened seem to mainly buy the smear campaign and will just say Cucc losing is proof the icky so-cons (of which I am not one) are poison. So I expect that to become the uneducated conventional wisdom. Easier than looking into the specific facts of a specific race.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 05, 2013 03:34 PM (ZPrif)

132 Any word on the other Republicans in Virginia?

Posted by: hello, it's me also a creep-assed cracka.. at November 05, 2013 03:34 PM (9+ccr)

133 122 Tea Party ain't dead. The Republicans are, however.

Posted by: Bigby's Boxing Gloves at November 05, 2013 07:32 PM (MLEqw)

This, wrapped up with a bow.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 05, 2013 03:34 PM (lVPtV)

134 I'm just hoping my school board pals won today . . was happy b/c my very very liberal district had incredibly low turnout . . every little bit of happy helps, kwim?

Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 05, 2013 03:34 PM (2up3Q)

135 Is Rove dancing a jig for McAwful yet?

Posted by: Meremortal, Low Info Mofo at November 05, 2013 03:34 PM (1Y+hH)

136 exit polls show moderates broke for McAuliffe 57 - 31 percent. ************ dafuh? name recognition? damn socons? what we refer to as changing demographics? GOP has to change. To what, I don't know. But it doesn't matter because ... what I assume "our" values are don't matter. they're now wedges against us to let criminals get elected over our newest batting order. So, we don't matter, we'll just have to pound sand.

Posted by: joeindc44 is totally not on Soros's pay now...right? at November 05, 2013 03:34 PM (QxSug)

137 111 via twitter: exit polls show moderates broke for McAuliffe 57 - 31 percent. eeek Posted by: ace I don't know what's scarier - - that statistic, or the mouse that you just saw.

Posted by: zombie at November 05, 2013 03:34 PM (+cx5n)

138 so this is the Romney election all over again with people holding out hope even when there is none?

Posted by: The Dude at November 05, 2013 03:34 PM (vJdyz)

139 Predicted memes we'll see in the next day or so:

- "Fuck Virginia. It's a blue state anyway. Not worth fighting for."

- "If we can't win with a True Conservative then it's better to lose anyway."

- "Chris Christie is a Democrat and I'll vote for Hillary before I acknowledge the fact that a guy who's further to the right than any Jersey GOP figure in 80 years just racked up a staggering mega-victory."

Posted by: Jeff B. at November 05, 2013 03:34 PM (n/+FT)

140 I will be looking at Va. county returns to see where I spend drive-thru and vaca.$'s.

Posted by: redenzo at November 05, 2013 03:35 PM (vx61Q)

141 Dewey beats Truman

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at November 05, 2013 03:35 PM (H0R/1)

142 Save us, JeffB!

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 05, 2013 03:35 PM (lVPtV)

143 From what I have seen he may be in trouble this time. Posted by: Vic at November 05, 2013 07:14 PM (zZbNF) ThatÂ’s one bit of good news, Miss Lindsey is in trouble. I wish McConnell was also in trouble. I canÂ’t stand that chinless, spineless man.

Posted by: CarolT at November 05, 2013 03:35 PM (z4WKX)

144 fuck the state? Dude, we're fucked. There aren't that many states left to give.

Posted by: joeindc44 is totally not on Soros's pay now...right? at November 05, 2013 03:35 PM (QxSug)

145 This may be the last major election before Obamacare impacts.

Good thing the old Guard "moderate" GOP'rs are busy hanging Obamacare fallout around the Dems neck.

Good.Thing.

Posted by: noone, really at November 05, 2013 03:35 PM (5ikDv)

146 MSNBC has McAuliffe at 99%.

Posted by: Dr Spank at November 05, 2013 03:35 PM (qRasw)

147 Huffpost has 7% precincts reporting Cucc 52.3

Posted by: mrp at November 05, 2013 03:35 PM (HjPtV)

148 Fuck Virginia. It's a blue state anyway. Not worth fighting for... And it isn't leaning that way? Talk to Brit Hume about that...

Posted by: hello, it's me also a creep-assed cracka.. at November 05, 2013 03:36 PM (9+ccr)

149 So I've got a question. I went to vote today, my town and county is pretty solidly Republican so the only somewhat competitive race around here is for town supervisor, between a Conservative Party candidate and the incumbent Republican. I intended to vote for the Conservative, then noticed she was also on both the Democrat and Working Families' Party lines. Then I noticed it was the same for almost all the other candidates. I ended up just voting for the Republican, and skipped the Conservatives where they appeared on the WFP line.

So, is this a just a ploy to get ballot access? Seek out nominations from parties which would otherwise not run a candidate? I can excuse that on the Democrat line, but the WFP is straight up communist, I refuse to vote for someone on their line.

Posted by: mugiwara at November 05, 2013 03:36 PM (hpYnL)

150 Turnout looks low.

Posted by: Boss Moss the Redskin Savage at November 05, 2013 03:36 PM (Kud5A)

151 >>>94 I blame the RNC for the loss ( apparent lose) in VA.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 05, 2013 07:26 PM (t3UFN)

If Cuccinelli loses, I totally agree with you. Here's a great link showing what tyrannical egotists the Republican Establishment is:

http://tinyurl.com/lz4lp56

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at November 05, 2013 03:36 PM (KL49F)

152 Jeff. JEFF! are you listening?!! the "moderate" NJ voters that all went Christie today? they will ALL, ALWAYS, ALWAYS!!!! vote for the Dem for pres they are saying this! they're not lying. they looooove their boy Chris, but they will vote for Hildebeast over him, because she's a Dem (trust me, they don't fucking like her at all) THIS IS VERY BAD

Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 05, 2013 03:37 PM (2up3Q)

153

Long time DC Politician wins in bright blue DC /VA.

Shocker.

Posted by: noone, really at November 05, 2013 03:37 PM (5ikDv)

154 I live in Virginia. I'm going to be physically I'll tomorrow, aren't I?

Posted by: Exit Ramp at November 05, 2013 03:37 PM (uPUrh)

155 I think an important issue in the VA gov's race is how many inner city districts there are to help ensure that the right leftist wins.

Posted by: Mallfly at November 05, 2013 03:37 PM (bJm7W)

156 Well, we know that MSDNC is sucking Christie's stubby little cock now. He's their Dream guy on the RNC ticket in 2016.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 05, 2013 03:37 PM (lVPtV)

157 Ugh NYC gonna get a david dinkins repeat but much worse.

Posted by: just a citizen at November 05, 2013 03:37 PM (Nx76m)

158 McAuliffe is losing because he is a socon.

Posted by: Boss Moss the Redskin Savage at November 05, 2013 03:37 PM (Kud5A)

159 low turnout should help GOP. We care, we're pissed. But other commenters say people stayed home.

Posted by: joeindc44 is totally not on Soros's pay now...right? at November 05, 2013 03:37 PM (QxSug)

160 148 Huffpost has 7% precincts reporting Cucc 52.3 Posted by: mrp at November 05, 2013 07:35 PM (HjPtV) _________ That 7% is all from rural counties. By the time NoVa starts counting it will be McAwful by 6-8% Dems won't even need to stuff ballots at the end of the night.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 05, 2013 03:38 PM (QI9SE)

161 >>>So I expect that to become the uneducated conventional wisdom. Easier than looking into the specific facts of a specific race.

Strangely enough, conservatives who are intimately acquainted with every detail of this race, and know the political topography of Virginia extremely well, attribute Cuccinelli's loss to 1.) his self-sought social conservative brand being a noose statewide; 2.) crap campaign; 3.) terrible at fundraising because his so-con stances turned off typical VA GOP donor groups; 4.) shifting demographics.

And they're unanimous about that, pretty much. Go read Ben Domenech's long write-up on why Cooch lost, he posted it today. Or is he now a liberal moby as well?

Posted by: Jeff B. at November 05, 2013 03:38 PM (n/+FT)

162
so this is the Romney election all over again with people holding out hope even when there is none?

No. I think it was a given that Mcauliffe was going to win the state. My interest now is to see whether the Sarvis voters threw him the election.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at November 05, 2013 03:38 PM (0IhFx)

163 McAwful will win because VA women are afraid the GOP will steal their vaginas.

Posted by: KEN at November 05, 2013 03:38 PM (SgBGg)

164 Maybe Belize. Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at November 05, 2013 07:33 PM (H0R/1) So you speak Jive? It's an African country in Honduras, don't think about it. Makes Harlem look honest.

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 05, 2013 03:38 PM (0FSuD)

165 also, isn't proper procedure to announce that the polls are closed and the Dem has won while the polls are still opened?

Posted by: Mallfly at November 05, 2013 03:38 PM (bJm7W)

166 "Chris Christie is a Democrat and I'll vote for Hillary before I acknowledge the fact that a guy who's further to the right than any Jersey GOP figure in 80 years just racked up a staggering mega-victory." Nobody knew who Buono was an Christie was a known factor. I will vote for Christie over Hillary.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 05, 2013 03:38 PM (23Kgq)

167

14% of VA in, lead still holds for cuccinelli

Posted by: barbarausa at November 05, 2013 03:38 PM (WWeoI)

168 If cuccinelli is losing why the enormous drudge headline? Is drudge a RINO, anti tea party guy?

Posted by: just a citizen at November 05, 2013 03:38 PM (Nx76m)

169 maybe I'm engaging in wishful thinking, but it looks like the phony libertarian might be taking votes from the democrat phony.

Posted by: Mallfly at November 05, 2013 03:39 PM (bJm7W)

170 Yep, the blue counties in VA come in last and with enough to push it. That's certainly how it happened in Obama vs. Romney. Mitt was way ahead until NoVA came in. Hell, where I live in Fairfax County, VA, it isn't even really America anymore, I tell you. You look on the streets, look in the schools, you simply don't see Americans. You see Koreans, Bolivians, Ethiopians, El Salvadoreans, Vietnamese. You drive down Main Street here and you won't know what most of the shops here are peddling unless you can read Korean. This was a whitebread, GOP area when I moved here, with rib joints, biker bars, go-kart kids, VFW outposts, etc. Now they're shutting down Cub Scout Packs -- the BSA is a very American thing to do, but the people here simply aren't American. They don't do that kind of thing. No, they fix up the place to make it more "like home". That home they fled -- the socialist one!

Posted by: Cowboy at November 05, 2013 03:39 PM (f73Jj)

171 That headline will get the dems on the phones and mcauliffe will win. And the discouraged republicans conservatives will stay at home, again.

Posted by: just a citizen at November 05, 2013 03:39 PM (Nx76m)

172 Ugh NYC gonna get a david dinkins repeat but much worse. Posted by: just a citizen at November 05, 2013 07:37 PM (Nx76m) Much worse. This asshole is the white sharpton

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 05, 2013 03:39 PM (t3UFN)

173 I was shocked that the Republican Lt. Gov Bolling refused to endorse Cuccinelly because he got his nose out of joint. These RINOs are as evil as Democrats and we cannot win any elections until we've purged them. Backstabbers.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at November 05, 2013 03:39 PM (KL49F)

174 so he puts out stupid bait like this, ignoring the fact that these results are from specific counties (which lean R) and not general statewide results Posted by: ace at November 05, 2013 07:32 PM (/FnUH) Too generous. Drudge is on a nude cruise in the tropics and some 22 year-old is throwing some crap up on the site as he awakens from his periodic pot stupors.

Posted by: Meremortal, Low Info Mofo at November 05, 2013 03:39 PM (1Y+hH)

175 If you must know, my secret is Chesterfield County. Ken's # there are atrocious. That's what made me confident enough to make the call so early.

Posted by: CAC at November 05, 2013 03:39 PM (ILb/3)

176 169 If cuccinelli is losing why the enormous drudge headline? Is drudge a RINO, anti tea party guy? Keeps people clicking on his web site...

Posted by: hello, it's me also a creep-assed cracka.. at November 05, 2013 03:39 PM (9+ccr)

177 I think you've made your point, JeffB and probably aren't going to convert anyone here who wasn't already on board to begin with.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 05, 2013 03:39 PM (23Kgq)

178 164 Ken,

yup....

we're theocrats....

Posted by: sven10077 at November 05, 2013 03:39 PM (9jfyN)

179 >>>they will ALL, ALWAYS, ALWAYS!!!! vote for the Dem for pres

Of course they will. Nobody in their right mind is seriously arguing that New Jersey is going to vote Republican in a Presidential election. Christie's victory is less about how the state would vote in 2016 than it is about Christie's ability to play well with demographics that GOP has been getting fucked over with: women, young people, working class, minorities.

Unless the GOP makes MAJOR inroads with TWO of those four groups, it'll never win a national election again.

Posted by: Jeff B. at November 05, 2013 03:40 PM (n/+FT)

180 and didn't the Dems scream murder in 2004 because the exit polls said that Kerry had carried Ohio?

Posted by: Mallfly at November 05, 2013 03:40 PM (bJm7W)

181 Â“The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money.Â”

Posted by: de Tocqueville at November 05, 2013 03:40 PM (5ikDv)

182 *sniff* NYC cat pee?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 05, 2013 03:40 PM (lVPtV)

183 I used to smugly nod whenever some northeast liberal did something outrageous to his state.

Now I've got McDouche...

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at November 05, 2013 03:40 PM (+YFcy)

184 If cuccinelli is losing why the enormous drudge headline? Is drudge a RINO, anti tea party guy? Posted by: just a citizen at November 05, 2013 07:38 PM (Nx76m) he's a business man and it brings traffic and therefore money to his hot pockets. get it?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 05, 2013 03:40 PM (t3UFN)

185 If the typical 23 year old single woman truly believes thinks a governor can stop them from having sex, then this country is beyond saving. This goes beyond LIVs and the free shit army. It just shows how stupid the country has become.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 05, 2013 03:40 PM (QI9SE)

186 It will be interesting to see the exit polls and see what effect the fake libertarian had on the result. Also the exit polls so far show that Cucc under-performed with so-cons -- giving the lie to the claim he was super so-con warrior. Apparently the actual so-cons in Virginia didn't think he was a super so-con warrior. Now single women were convinced he was super so-con warrior -- because they were fed a barrage of ads, especially web ads, saying Cucc hated and feared their vaginas. But apparently Cucc was the most incompetent single issue warrior ever - only motivating the other side and not his own.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 05, 2013 03:41 PM (ZPrif)

187 *sniff* NYC cat pee? Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 05, 2013 07:40 PM (lVPtV) As long as it stays on that side of the Hudson

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 05, 2013 03:41 PM (t3UFN)

188 I'll ask again. Any hope for down ticket Republicans ?

Posted by: hello, it's me also a creep-assed cracka.. at November 05, 2013 03:41 PM (9+ccr)

189 Drudge is just trolling for traffic. Every minute people believe it's still a race is a million more refreshes.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 05, 2013 03:41 PM (ZPrif)

190 With counties in CA and CO hoping to secede from their respective states, Southern VA should want to be their own state, too. No more NOVA deciding things for the rest of them. I know NOVA is all a bunch of govmt workers, so I'm guessing they're also not native Virginians. They are giving true Virginians the shaft.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at November 05, 2013 03:41 PM (KL49F)

191 If Walsh wins Boston the city will look like NewHaven within a few short years and Detroit not too much longer after that. The unions have been pouring tons of money in to get that guy elected. They can't wait to loot America's Athens. There's no fucking way all the local institutions are going to stick around if every union in the country is waiting in line to steal their endowments.

Posted by: BlueFalcon in Boston at November 05, 2013 03:42 PM (KCvsd)

192 @176 I think you will be proven correct. City of Richmond has not come in. It's a sad day for the Commonwealth a carpetbagging crook to be the Governor.

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 05, 2013 03:42 PM (0FSuD)

193 Much worse. This asshole is the white sharpton

I got that impression when he sent his kid out to say "my dad isn't some boring old white guy".

We're all better off dead, really.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at November 05, 2013 03:42 PM (d7tB2)

194 If Cuccinelli loses, I totally agree with you. Here's a great link showing what tyrannical egotists the Republican Establishment is: http://tinyurl.com/lz4lp56 Posted by: AslanÂ’s Girl at November 05, 2013 07:36 PM (KL49F) The Establishment Sucks! They forced two bad candidates on us for president in last four years. IÂ’m sick of next in line!

Posted by: CarolT at November 05, 2013 03:42 PM (z4WKX)

195 Any idiot women voting with their vaginas deserve to be sterile forever.

Seriously. Idiots.

Yay! Abortion! Twits.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 05, 2013 03:42 PM (lVPtV)

196 well, yeah, there are hard red districts in VA, sure. It's called the rest of the state. However, what are the numbers for the hard blue? If they're down, then that's interesting.

Posted by: joeindc44 is totally not on Soros's pay now...right? at November 05, 2013 03:42 PM (QxSug)

197 @SeanTrende 4m Huh. Based on what we're seeing right now, projection model says VA-Gov is going to be close. Still early, but weird. @SeanTrende 4m Based on swings we've seen so far in races with significant precincts in, KC would actually win.But wld expect less swing in SWVA than NoVA.

Posted by: Jose at November 05, 2013 03:42 PM (zc/sw)

198 Of course they will. Nobody in their right mind is seriously arguing that New Jersey is going to vote Republican in a Presidential election. Christie's victory is less about how the state would vote in 2016 than it is about Christie's ability to play well with demographics that GOP has been getting fucked over with: women, young people, working class, minorities. Unless the GOP makes MAJOR inroads with TWO of those four groups, it'll never win a national election again. Posted by: Jeff B. at November 05, 2013 07:40 PM (n/+FT) __________ Due you just contradicted yourself. if the fat man is so awesome at attracting minorities, women and the yuuts, why not win NJ? You can't argue that "OF COURSE" NJ will go for Hillary, but let's nominate the fat man because he can win votes from people who normally vote Democrat (like people in NJ).

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 05, 2013 03:43 PM (QI9SE)

199 I have to hand it to Ron Paul for endorsing Cuccinelli and telling Libertarians that the "Libertarian" candidate was a phony.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at November 05, 2013 03:43 PM (KL49F)

200 City of Richmond has not come in. yes, how many votes will blue richmond and blue Nova genreate?

Posted by: joeindc44 is totally not on Soros's pay now...right? at November 05, 2013 03:43 PM (QxSug)

201 189 hello, it's me als a cac,

who knows?

T Mac will be a lawless as O-gasm

Posted by: sven10077 at November 05, 2013 03:43 PM (9jfyN)

202 Well, my election today was just for mayor, city council, and a couple of ballot initiatives (both raising taxes). I voted against the tax increases (which are for "arts" programs - ludicrous in a valley with two major universities, each of which has spectacular performing arts programs). Bribed husband with promises of grilled veal chops if he hauls his butt over to the polls after work. (He's on his way now!)

Posted by: Y-not (@MoxieMom) at November 05, 2013 03:43 PM (5H6zj)

203 Hey guys, if you want some hope? Go check out Sean Trende's Twitter feed right now.

Posted by: Jeff B. at November 05, 2013 03:43 PM (n/+FT)

204 Now single women were convinced he was super so-con warrior -- because they were fed a barrage of ads, especially web ads, saying Cucc hated and feared their vaginas.

I actually do hate and fear Democratic-voting vaginas. Who knows where they've been

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at November 05, 2013 03:43 PM (d7tB2)

205
If cuccinelli is losing why the enormous drudge headline? Is drudge a RINO, anti tea party guy?

Keeps people clicking on his web site...

All sites that report results are doing the same thing....although without the big red headlines.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at November 05, 2013 03:43 PM (0IhFx)

206

And why wouldn't you call the AG race if the bell weathers are in, in VA?

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 05, 2013 03:43 PM (nKUHR)

207 So, is this a just a ploy to get ballot access? Seek out nominations from parties which would otherwise not run a candidate? I can excuse that on the Democrat line, but the WFP is straight up communist, I refuse to vote for someone on their line. You in NY? The Republicans were on the Conservative, Independent and WFP lines. The President of the County Conservatives sent out a letter urging people to vote against his own line for a Republican judge.

Posted by: Iblis at November 05, 2013 03:44 PM (9221z)

208 I'll never understand the NE and Mid-Atlantic states.

WTF?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 05, 2013 03:44 PM (lVPtV)

209 187 It will be interesting to see the exit polls and see what effect the fake libertarian had on the result. Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 05, 2013 07:41 PM (ZPrif) Its my understanding this "libertarian" was jones-ing for more taxes....loved the idea of the "car mile tax" I don't know of a libertarian who wants taxes and more intrusion

Posted by: Kawfytawk at November 05, 2013 03:44 PM (EY4Et)

210 NOVA is simply the cheap place for Federal workers to live. DC is a hell hole as is MD, so they move to Fairfax to one of the 1000's of subdivisions made just for them.

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 05, 2013 03:44 PM (0FSuD)

211 ahem--native northern VA here. We aren't all transients of the government.

Posted by: barbarausa at November 05, 2013 03:44 PM (WWeoI)

212 199 Mr Moo Moo,

shh he's rolling....

maybe he'll explain how driving White Males to Hilary! is a winner

Posted by: sven10077 at November 05, 2013 03:44 PM (9jfyN)

213 200 I have to hand it to Ron Paul for endorsing Cuccinelli and telling Libertarians that the "Libertarian" candidate was a phony. --- Yep. Me too.

Posted by: Y-not (@MoxieMom) at November 05, 2013 03:44 PM (5H6zj)

214 Here's some good news, from Nate Cohn (liberal poll guy, so admission against interest!): Nate Cohn 73/74 precincts counted in Chesterfield, outside Richmond, Cuccinnelli up 10 points. Romney only won by 7.74. This will not be a blowout.

Posted by: Jeff B. at November 05, 2013 03:45 PM (n/+FT)

215 What is it with brothers and guns?

Posted by: Ray Kelly at November 05, 2013 03:45 PM (vx61Q)

216 Every statewide office in Alabama, and every Congressional seat save the one affirmative action carve out for Birmingham, is Republican. Quite a change from the George Wallace days. Y'all come down now, hear?

Posted by: toby928© at November 05, 2013 03:45 PM (QupBk)

217 This will not be a blowout. Posted by: Jeff B. at November 05, 2013 07:45 PM (n/+FT) _______________ Does it matter? A loss is a loss.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 05, 2013 03:45 PM (QI9SE)

218 If cuccinelli is losing why the enormous drudge headline? Is drudge a RINO, anti tea party guy? *** Drudge is a traffic whore.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 05, 2013 03:45 PM (DmNpO)

219 You know what I would love?

What I would absolutely love?

I would love to look like the biggest fucking idiot on the face of god's green earth.

I would Cuccinelli to shock everyone by somehow managing to win, despite the polls, despite the exits, despite everything.

I will eat a big ol' bucket of shit with giant smile if that were somehow to happen.

Posted by: Jeff B. at November 05, 2013 03:46 PM (n/+FT)

220 I'll never understand the NE and Mid-Atlantic states. WTF? Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 05, 2013 07:44 PM (lVPtV) It's enough that you know it was all the assholes in the NE that made me join the Navy at 52

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 05, 2013 03:46 PM (t3UFN)

221 We have admittedly RINO friends and family (husband's) in DC who truly have sucked on the gubmint teat for so long they can't even find fault with a single thing about Obama.

That's what is seriously wrong with the GOP.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 05, 2013 03:46 PM (lVPtV)

222 I'm dead. And rotting.

Posted by: the GOP at November 05, 2013 03:46 PM (5ikDv)

223
I make the call for.....wait for it....out on a limb here....wait

in NJ.......

Fat Bastard wins guv race.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 05, 2013 03:47 PM (nKUHR)

224 I sure hope that call is wrong. Very sad for the country and Virginia if not.

Posted by: WannabeAnglican at November 05, 2013 03:47 PM (mm3C0)

225 The inner burbs of Nova have been solid Dem for a long time. What has changed in the last decade is the outer burbs are now, too. Repubs used to hold their own in NoVa, winning the exurbs vs the inner burbs. Now they get crushed everywhere.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 05, 2013 03:47 PM (ZPrif)

226 I will eat a big ol' bucket of shit with giant smile if that were somehow to happen.

Posted by: Jeff B. at November 05, 2013 07:46 PM (n/+FT)

Insurance

Posted by: The Jackhole at November 05, 2013 03:47 PM (nTgAI)

227 218 Mr Moo Moo,

I am holding out hope my fuck you to VA while premature was heartfelt

Posted by: sven10077 at November 05, 2013 03:47 PM (9jfyN)

228 You in NY? The Republicans were on the Conservative, Independent and WFP lines. The President of the County Conservatives sent out a letter urging people to vote against his own line for a Republican judge.
Posted by: Iblis at November 05, 2013 07:44 PM (9221z)

Yup, I ended up voting for only a couple slots under Conservative as I refuse to vote for anyone running as WFP. Bad form by the party, they've got to stop that shit.

Posted by: mugiwara at November 05, 2013 03:47 PM (hpYnL)

229 The way things are going McAuliffe will be indicted before he takes office.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 05, 2013 03:47 PM (oFCZn)

230 212 ahem--native northern VA here. We aren't all transients of the government. Posted by: barbarausa at November 05, 2013 07:44 PM (WWeoI) OK, I went to Sleepy Hollow Elementary school and remember when 7 Corners opened. You are a rare breed, your neighbors still think VA is a fucking state and not a commonwealth. Get over it, we have been invaded again.

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 05, 2013 03:47 PM (0FSuD)

231 I'll never understand the NE and Mid-Atlantic states Jane I'll explain to you what Jeff is missing. The people who live here are Gov't clients. they are statists, they are in unions, they like Big Govt and they know the Dems are on their side. that's it. that's all. FedGov, state gov, local gov, pharma/healthcare, edu. all the same beast.

Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 05, 2013 03:47 PM (2up3Q)

232 LIBERTARIAN SHITHEAD IS SHOWING 8 % Posted by: FUBAR at November 05, 2013 07:46 PM (Cs2tJ) He is a phony baloney democrat

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 05, 2013 03:47 PM (t3UFN)

233 What is strange is how in 4 years VA made such a 180. In 2009, McDonell won 60-40. And now 4 years later, the Republican will lose by 5%. So you go from R+20 to D+5 in 4 years? Are there really that many swing voters in the state? On the other hand the election of 2008 and 2012 was virtually the same with Obama winning by about 5% each time. That's a very odd electorate.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 05, 2013 03:48 PM (QI9SE)

234 Drudge is a traffic whore. Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 05, 2013 07:45 PM (DmNpO) NDH, That summed him up perfectly. Carol

Posted by: CarolT at November 05, 2013 03:48 PM (z4WKX)

235 "Drudge is a traffic whore." At least he's our traffic whore.

Posted by: Kaitian at November 05, 2013 03:48 PM (AFTTf)

236 O/T Gallup poll shows Obama is lower than Bush at this point in office:

http://tinyurl.com/lx8oes5

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at November 05, 2013 03:48 PM (KL49F)

237
It's enough that you know it was all the assholes in the NE that made me join the Navy at 52

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 05, 2013 07:46 PM (t3UFN)

I may e-mail you in a bit (have a fever, and not thinking clearly). Had a horrific event with a certain young man who had a flash-back in the wee hours this weekend. Broke our hearts.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 05, 2013 03:48 PM (lVPtV)

238 >>>Does it matter? A loss is a loss.

FUCK YES IT MATTERS. Virginia's statewide elections are not tickets, they're individual: each position (Gov, Lt. Gov, AG) is voted on separately. So if Cuccinelli can even keep it close with Terry Mac, that means Obenshain (the GOP nominee for AG, and our best hope both now and in the future) has a good shot at winning.

Furthermore, a closer race means keeping any downticket losses (in the House of Delegates races) to a minimum.

I will GLADLY take a close loss. A 7% margin would be...BAD. A 3% or 4% loss? Yeah sure, Terry Mac is still governor, but it would mean the downticket races have happier endings.

Posted by: Jeff B. at November 05, 2013 03:48 PM (n/+FT)

239 Voted in Loudoun Co. This morning right when the polls opened. Prez election there was a huge line out the door. Today just walked right in; was the # 10 paper ballot cast. Unfortunately expecting the Hack to win but with embarrassingly low turn out. Hoping Obenshain pulls out the AG race.

Posted by: Pete at November 05, 2013 03:49 PM (TiZlI)

240 The NY Times election results page is well behind VA's official results page too.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at November 05, 2013 03:49 PM (0IhFx)

241 235 Drudge is a traffic whore. Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 05, 2013 07:45 PM (DmNpO) Bold talk for a ginger! ha ha.

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 05, 2013 03:49 PM (0FSuD)

242 Time to start smoking the rock.

Posted by: WOW at November 05, 2013 03:49 PM (6j8ke)

243 Part of the changing demographics of NoVa, with populations doubling and triple in recent decades, is a sharp increase in wealth. Half of the ten richest counties in America are in NoVa.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 05, 2013 03:49 PM (ZPrif)

244 Who really gives a shit if it's "not a blow out." This is a blueish-purple state, when Democrats are getting obliterated by Obamacare, and we still lose. It's not about the candidate, it's about the people voting and how fucking stupid they are, thus ensuring the ultimate demise of this country.

Posted by: Rich at November 05, 2013 03:49 PM (3nUrQ)

245 I'm not surprised at all with how VA is shaping up.

Posted by: Matt S. at November 05, 2013 03:49 PM (BBfhc)

246 JeffB, Cuccinelli has been a cliffhanger in every race he's had. I'm going to wait and see, because if my county full of nuts was light, (and we're right next door to nuttier than squirrel poo Fairfax, where Cuccinelli started as a state senator) then I'll wait till its done.

Posted by: barbarausa at November 05, 2013 03:49 PM (WWeoI)

247 The thing about Ken Cuccinelli -- he was an insanely good and highly effective Attorney General. You'd never know a thing about it if your primary news source was the Washington Post, which by the way is the primary new source for a lot of people in northern VA. The Post has been attacking him bitterly and prominently for the whole campaign. Just like they did twice to George 'Makaka' Allen. They go way, way over the top with it. It long ago went beyond the bounds and into the area of "in-kind" contributions to Democrat candidates. They are so partisan over there, and they love to flex their muscles. Gets them off.

Posted by: Cowboy at November 05, 2013 03:50 PM (f73Jj)

248
Idiot Americans: The country is going to hell, the job market sucks, everything is more expensive, the country has become a joke internationally but I'll keep voting for the same party that created this mess.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 05, 2013 03:50 PM (JivuR)

249 We have admittedly RINO friends and family (husband's) in DC who truly have sucked on the gubmint teat for so long they can't even find fault with a single thing about Obama. That's what is seriously wrong with the GOP. my bad, you DO understand the NE Jane! Now maybe JeffB will finally get this? Pretty much all wars, btw, are started by economic problems. We have a hell of an economic problem on our hands, here. so what will happen? I am starting to think I'd like to watch from outside, perhaps.

Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 05, 2013 03:50 PM (2up3Q)

250 Why didn't you come to me ,like a man,and tell me there was a new thread!?

Posted by: steevy at November 05, 2013 03:50 PM (zqvg6)

251 I may e-mail you in a bit (have a fever, and not thinking clearly). Had a horrific event with a certain young man who had a flash-back in the wee hours this weekend. Broke our hearts. Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 05, 2013 07:48 PM (lVPtV) It happens,that is why we have 2 psychiatrist in our Unit and they are busy

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 05, 2013 03:50 PM (t3UFN)

252 245 rich,

embrace the burn, the cocksuckers keep voting D they deserve all they get

Posted by: sven10077 at November 05, 2013 03:50 PM (9jfyN)

253 That's a very odd electorate.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 05, 2013 07:48 PM (QI9SE)

Not really. McDonell was an anomaly. Virginia's only elected 6 Republican governors in 115 years.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at November 05, 2013 03:51 PM (+YFcy)

254 Boston is the wave of the future.

Two Democrats running for mayor.

Joisey is almost there. Other places will fall into line quickly when the Prophets of Choom have their machinery set up.

If we're lucky, some museum will display the bones of the last Republicans for future generations to stare at.

Posted by: MrScribbler at November 05, 2013 03:51 PM (kaGpp)

255 251 Why didn't you come to me ,like a man,and tell me there was a new thread!? Posted by: steevy at November 05, 2013 07:50 PM (zqvg6) New Thread? We DON'T need no new thread. Bye.

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 05, 2013 03:51 PM (0FSuD)

256 Mr. Moo Moo:

Obenshain is apparently running 6% ahead of Cuccinelli in both the exits and the current vote data we have. That's EXACTLY why a Cooch loss of only 4% is so much more preferable to one of 7%. It makes all the difference.

Posted by: Jeff B. at November 05, 2013 03:51 PM (n/+FT)

257 >>>>Also the exit polls so far show that Cucc under-performed with so-cons -- giving the lie to the claim he was super so-con warrior. Apparently the actual so-cons in Virginia didn't think he was a super so-con warrior.

Now single women were convinced he was super so-con warrior -- because they were fed a barrage of ads, especially web ads, saying Cucc hated and feared their vaginas.

But apparently Cucc was the most incompetent single issue warrior ever - only motivating the other side and not his own.

....

oh my god. Reality deny, reality deny, reality deny.

Cuccinelli sponsored a bill to declare life begins at fertilization, and didn't bother to include a carve-out stating that this would not apply to birth control pills.

And there have been ads run against him on this nonstop. NON. FUCKING. STOP.

You can have whatever position you like, but stop whining when opponents USE YOUR POSITIONS AGAINST YOU.

Apparently you want a rule where a conservative candidate can state out the most extreme pro-life position imaginable but no one is allowed to notice (except for so-cons, who will notice, but in a good way).

Posted by: ace at November 05, 2013 03:51 PM (/FnUH)

258 Huh? Drudge is reporting off the Official Virginia board of elections site.. How is McAuliffe winning???

Posted by: common sense at November 05, 2013 03:51 PM (N3Al8)

259 Has anyone else ever noticed how the blue counties are always the last to report, sort of like they are waiting to see how many votes they need?

Posted by: Bill Mitchell at November 05, 2013 03:52 PM (+9xNn)

260 Pretty much all wars, btw, are started by economic problems. We have a hell of an economic problem on our hands, here. so what will happen?

I am starting to think I'd like to watch from outside, perhaps.

Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 05, 2013 07:50 PM (2up3Q)

Not just us. The rest of the world is hurting too. I'm thinking Asia is likely to blow up first.

Posted by: KG[/i][/b] at November 05, 2013 03:52 PM (IPz9m)

261
Hoping Obenshain pulls out the AG race.

He's leading by over 150,000 votes. I think that race is safe to call for Obenshain.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at November 05, 2013 03:52 PM (0IhFx)

262 I'll never understand the NE and Mid-Atlantic states. WTF? Posted by: Jane D'oh Like the west coast and the north, they are giant versions of Mexican border towns. The influences are coming from different places, but those are still inferior places. Hence....decline.

Posted by: Meremortal, Low Info Mofo at November 05, 2013 03:52 PM (1Y+hH)

263 "How is McAuliffe winning???" They haven't gotten to NOVA results.

Posted by: Kaitian at November 05, 2013 03:52 PM (AFTTf)

264 DO THESE N. VA COCKSUCKERS HAVE MANY GUNS?

Posted by: FUBAR at November 05, 2013 03:52 PM (Cs2tJ)

265 Many of the fastest growing counties in America have been the, formerly Republican, outer burbs of Nova. Demographics really have changed in 5 years, though not enough to explain the McD-Cucc swing.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 05, 2013 03:53 PM (ZPrif)

266 245 Who really gives a shit if it's "not a blow out." This is a blueish-purple state, when Democrats are getting obliterated by Obamacare, and we still lose. It's not about the candidate, it's about the people voting and how fucking stupid they are, thus ensuring the ultimate demise of this country. Posted by: Rich at November 05, 2013 07:49 PM (3nUrQ) _____________ Yep. After the last 2 weeks of Obamacare disaster stories in the news the Dem still wins. Instead of winning by 15%, he'll only win by 7%. The fact he is getting anything north of 30% if the real story and just shows how far gone the country is.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 05, 2013 03:53 PM (QI9SE)

267 Drudge has

TONIGHT: RESULTS...
VA Precincts Reporting: 20%...

CUCCINELLI 52.38%
MCAULIFFE 39.97%

I have learned to live in hope, although we know how far that's gotten me so far

Posted by: Mallfly at November 05, 2013 03:53 PM (bJm7W)

268 embrace the burn, the cocksuckers keep voting D they deserve all they get
Posted by: sven10077 at November 05, 2013 07:50 PM

So we deserve it, too?

All you let-it-burn types must think you have asbestos undies or something, and therefore won't be scorched by the flames.

Posted by: MrScribbler at November 05, 2013 03:53 PM (kaGpp)

269 260 bill mitchell,

if there were an oppo party they'd play the game too

Posted by: sven10077 at November 05, 2013 03:53 PM (9jfyN)

270 Jane D'oh at November 05, 2013 07:48 PM (lVPtV) Damn it sweeheart, I'm sorry to hear that. Prayers up.

Posted by: Meremortal, Low Info Mofo at November 05, 2013 03:54 PM (1Y+hH)

271 260 Has anyone else ever noticed how the blue counties are always the last to report, sort of like they are waiting to see how many votes they need? Posted by: Bill Mitchell at November 05, 2013 07:52 PM (+9xNn) _____________ What do you mean?

Posted by: GOP SMART GUYS at November 05, 2013 03:54 PM (QI9SE)

272 McAuliffe is a lying corrupt crapweasal. He should be in jail. Instead, (likely) Governor of Virginia.

Posted by: Puddleglum at November 05, 2013 03:54 PM (8SsiG)

273 Virginia, US 6m Latest Virginia governor exit poll shows electorate as self-described 38% Democrat; 31% GOP and 31% Independent Â– @BetsyNBC read more on twitter.com

Posted by: godzilla at November 05, 2013 03:54 PM (t8tck)

274 260 Has anyone else ever noticed how the blue counties are always the last to report, sort of like they are waiting to see how many votes they need?

Posted by: Bill Mitchell at November 05, 2013 07:52 PM (+9xNn)

Mmm-hmm. There were troubles this AM with voting machines in VA. Hopefully Cuccinelli looks into fraud...

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at November 05, 2013 03:54 PM (KL49F)

275 I think the GOP should have a No Vagina rule. Leave Sandra and her crew to their own devices. Seriously, these womyn are 20 years old and have no clue about how they are going to change in 10 years when THEY have kids. The wave will change.

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 05, 2013 03:55 PM (0FSuD)

276 268 Scrib,

if you think I think I am immune you're funny.

Stupid wins a lot worldwide we're joining the global mean baby

Posted by: sven10077 at November 05, 2013 03:55 PM (9jfyN)

277
Huh? Drudge is reporting off the Official Virginia board of elections site.. How is McAuliffe winning???

The big DC suburbs of NOVA haven't started coming in yet.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at November 05, 2013 03:55 PM (0IhFx)

278 #260 They tend to be the largest, so a delay can be expected, but this is more the fault of the AP. Flashback to the Wisconsin recall. In 2012, Dane County updated the results in a timely fashion. The AP reported the numbers with quite a delay. Remember our recall night coverage? We had results up way, way faster than AP- many of them the so-called "delayed" urban precincts.

Posted by: CAC at November 05, 2013 03:55 PM (ILb/3)

279 Has anyone else ever noticed how the blue counties are always the last to report, sort of like they are waiting to see how many votes they need?

Posted by: Bill Mitchell at November 05, 2013 07:52 PM (+9xNn)

Crook County IL: We ain't got no idea what youse are talkin' about.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 05, 2013 03:55 PM (JivuR)

280 When any of us starts to think or talk about how great this country is, just remember that the citizens of this country regularly elect incompetent, unethical, political hacks like Obama and McAuliffe, among many others, to major political offices. Face it, we suck like most (if not all) other countries on this planet. I'm starting to wish for the zombie apocalypse so I don't need to even think about politics anymore.

Posted by: Slappy at November 05, 2013 03:55 PM (g0F0Y)

281 In 2004, didn't exit polls show Kerry leading Bush in South Carolina? In his autobio "Decision Points", Bush said that exit polls had convinced him that he lost the election.

Posted by: Florida State alum at November 05, 2013 03:56 PM (Rk8LS)

282 Colorado and Nevada are now a solid blue state. Virginia is as well. Bush won all 3 in 2000 and 2004. I can't see how a Republican ever wins a presidential election again with these 3 in the Dem column right off the bat.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 05, 2013 03:56 PM (QI9SE)

283

McDonnell has been a disaster. VA voters went for him huge to put him in office, and he gave us all buyers remorse with his ridiculous tax hikes (the largest in VA history!), crony capitalist handouts to his developer friends, billion dollar public works bonanzas (light rail to Dulles), and shipping off huge sacks full of taxpayer money to the education rackets around the state. Then, the personal scandals came. Even though Ken Cuccinelli actually fought his own party's governor on all of the above, he got associated with it all (thanks again to the cabal down at the WaPo, largely). He's part of the bad taste VA voters have of the GOP that betrayed us.

Posted by: Cowboy at November 05, 2013 03:57 PM (f73Jj)

284 I smell ozone. Who's getting zapped?

Posted by: toby928© at November 05, 2013 03:57 PM (QupBk)

285 So now the socialist government will be ringed by the Socialist State of Maryland and the Socialist State of Virginia. Cozy.

Posted by: gracepmc at November 05, 2013 03:57 PM (rznx3)

286 Is that VA call an early one that could taint the results? Or were the polls already closed? I dislike the press doing that.

Posted by: logprof at November 05, 2013 03:57 PM (4BA+Y)

287 Not really. McDonell was an anomaly. Virginia's only elected 6 Republican governors in 115 years. Â Posted by:Â Washington Measure But haven't we traditionally voted for R presidents all that time? Is Ace here, or still in the last thread? I just got back from a ride and perused both threads, but he made some great points in the last one...

Posted by: shredded chi at November 05, 2013 03:58 PM (0IDyD)

288 Thanks again fundies for handing the state over to Democrats.

Please start your "Uterus Party" where you can talk about rape babies all day, I'm tired of you dragging down the conservative movement for your ridiculous hobby horse issue.

Abortion is NEVER going to be banned in cases of rape. Get over it. It's time conservatives started weeding these idiots out before they get to the general election.

Posted by: Jeepers at November 05, 2013 03:58 PM (XDRsa)

289

All you let-it-burn types must think you have asbestos undies or something, and therefore won't be scorched by the flames.

Nope, I expect to be scorched like everybody else. The difference is I know its going burn. The LiV's will expect unicorns shitting skittles on the road to Utopia.

Posted by: Puddleglum at November 05, 2013 03:58 PM (8SsiG)

290 from Drudge

TONIGHT: RESULTS...
VA Precincts Reporting: 32%...

CUCCINELLI 51.05%
MCAULIFFE 41.57%

rats, liquor stores closed, I'll drown my sorrows in somethng else.

gotta go vote

Posted by: Mallfly at November 05, 2013 03:58 PM (bJm7W)

291 In 2004, didn't exit polls show Kerry leading Bush in South Carolina? ________ In SC? No. Overall, yes. But the polls of 2004 showed a very tight race, with Bush leading by a very slim margin. And the race had swung back and forth between the two for months. So it really was a toss up election. In VA, McAwful has led the entire race. It's not really a comparable set of exit polls.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 05, 2013 03:58 PM (QI9SE)

292 I am starting to think I'd like to watch from outside, perhaps.

Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 05, 2013 07:50 PM (2up3Q)

----------------------------------------------

So would I, BlackOrchid. I would so much like to do that. But when I was 19 I swore an oath that compels me even today to stay and try to defend freedom the best I can.

What I'm seeing happening to my country is heartbreaking.

Posted by: Soona at November 05, 2013 03:58 PM (JvRFW)

293 Polls closed at 7, logproof

Posted by: shredded chi at November 05, 2013 03:59 PM (0IDyD)

294 Gonna be fun watching NYC back-slide and give up every inch it has gained, then more or less held onto over the last 20 years...

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at November 05, 2013 03:59 PM (vHRtU)

295 "281 Colorado and Nevada are now a solid blue state. Virginia is as well. " They call them Democratic locusts. "Oh hey there isn't the free shit we got here. Let's vote in people we need to pass those free shit." and it destroys the state.

Posted by: Kaitian at November 05, 2013 03:59 PM (AFTTf)

296 >>>So you go from R+20 to D+5 in 4 years? Are there really that many swing voters in the state? On the other hand the election of 2008 and 2012 was virtually the same with Obama winning by about 5% each time.

here's the deal: Bob McDonnell was what I'd call "Conventionally Pro-Life."

He says he's pro-life. He is pro life. But people are used to this. Many voters are not wigged out by this -- even those who disagree.

What is destroying cuccinelli is his embrace of an unconventional pro-life stance, one people aren't used to. Specifically, the life begins at fertilization bill, which, as written, would by implication outlaw birth control pills

Do you really not see the difference between someone with a Conventional Pro-Life position that people have long grown accustomed to and aren't alarmed by and an Exciting New Way to express one's pro-life zeal, which may or may not involving outlawing The Pill?

You know, a lot of people love to mock RINOs and squishes and moderates.

If anyone bothered to ASK us -- "Hey, would this freak people out, or not?" -- we could TELL you. Not because it freaks us out (this doesn't freak me out) but because we're close enough to the center to reliably guess what will freak them out.

And we would have said: Yes. That will freak people out. I strongly advise you to run someone with a less New and Exciting and Scary prolife position.

But no one asks us. People just seem to assume they know everything they need to know, and fuck those stupid RINOs, what do they know, anyway?

Well what makes us "RINOs" is that we're closer to the center, right? So maybe it would be wise to use as a sounding board for this kind of thing instead of just demonizing us as The Other.

Most RINOs will vote for a Cuccinelli, even if we're bothered by these positions. But the problem is that you're starting to lose even the RINOs (even though most will dutifully pull the lever for Cuccinelli).

Your problem is that moderates are now voting against Cucc in bigger numbers.

People keep blaming RINOs for losses like these when all we're doing is predicting the outcome.

Posted by: ace at November 05, 2013 03:59 PM (/FnUH)

297 Gonna be fun watching NYC back-slide and give up every inch it has gained, then more or less held onto over the last 20 yearsÂ… I hate to say it, but I will sort of enjoy this. New Yorkers are mentally deranged. They probably won't even notice.

Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 05, 2013 04:00 PM (2up3Q)

298 Abortion is NEVER going to be banned in cases of rape. Get over it. It's time conservatives started weeding these idiots out before they get to the general election.

Posted by: Jeepers at November 05, 2013 07:58 PM (XDRsa)

I agree.. GOP Government Of Pussies has to stop

Posted by: The Jackhole at November 05, 2013 04:00 PM (nTgAI)

299 286 Not really. McDonell was an anomaly. Virginia's only elected 6 Republican governors in 115 years. Posted by: Washington Measure But haven't we traditionally voted for R presidents all that time? Is Ace here, or still in the last thread? I just got back from a ride and perused both threads, but he made some great points in the last one... Posted by: shredded chi at November 05, 2013 07:58 PM (0IDyD) --A lot of VA Democrats, whether Gov, Senator, or HR, have been genuinely moderate (e.g., Virgil Goode when he was D and Doug Wilder). Lately, though, the Dems have run fake moderates/conservatives like Webb and Warner.

Posted by: logprof at November 05, 2013 04:00 PM (4BA+Y)

300 @287 DIAF baby killing moby troll

Posted by: noone, really at November 05, 2013 04:00 PM (5ikDv)

301 Posted by: ace at November 05, 2013 07:59 PM (/FnUH) _____________ That's the GOP's problem, They don't know how to lie.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 05, 2013 04:01 PM (QI9SE)

302 foxnews is saying VA gov race.. too close to call with exit polls

Posted by: Kawfytawk at November 05, 2013 04:01 PM (EY4Et)

303 Pretty much all wars, btw, are started by economic
problems.

I thought it was over the poontang.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 05, 2013 04:02 PM (nKUHR)

304 People keep blaming RINOs for losses like these when all we're doing is predicting the outcome. Posted by: ace at November 05, 2013 07:59 PM (/FnUH) So then your suggestion is running candidates who are more centrist? More to the middle? Honest question here Ace. And I don't just mean in VA. Because I don't see it. Kerry, McCain, Bush, Dole, Bush...none of those guys were hardcore Cons. That's a lot of ass kickings and a couple squeakers.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 05, 2013 04:02 PM (GEICT)

305 If I was using the current result of Fairfax county. 100798.25 C 148374.1875 M Mc can easily wipe out the lead C's got.

Posted by: Kaitian at November 05, 2013 04:02 PM (AFTTf)

306 So, we're on this thread now?

Confused, I am. *hack hack*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 05, 2013 04:02 PM (lVPtV)

307

Ace,

I think you mistake what makes one a RINO. Someone who is against the pill has a fairly extreme position re birth control I would think.

You can be hard core conservative and still not be against that. That was a bad position.

On the flipside, Terry is a HUGE gun grabber, and KC should bury him with that shit. Not sure if he did.

My problem with the fucking RINOs that run the establishment is that they let KC get OUTSPENT 25 TO FUCKING 1. In a KEY FUCKING SWING STATE.

How does that fucking happen??

Posted by: prescient11 at November 05, 2013 04:03 PM (y8MBg)

308 See, once Republicans learn they don't get a free pass on stupid, they'll be in a better place. A Democrat can literally sell nights in the Lincoln Bedroom, and it is no biggie.

You don't get that luxury if you are -R. You get zero screw ups; no extra balls at the arcade; no one-up mushrooms. ONE stupid thing, that's all you get.

Posted by: Matt S. at November 05, 2013 04:03 PM (BBfhc)

309 295 >>>So you go from R+20 to D+5 in 4 years? Are there really that many swing
voters in the state? On the other hand the election of 2008 and 2012 was
virtually the same with Obama winning by about 5% each time.

here's the deal: Bob McDonnell was what I'd call "Conventionally Pro-Life."

He says he's pro-life. He is pro life. But people are used to this. Many voters are not wigged out by this -- even those who disagree.

What is destroying cuccinelli is his embrace of an unconventional pro-life stance, one people aren't used to. Specifically, the life begins at fertilization bill, which, as written, would by implication outlaw birth control pills

Do you really not see the difference between someone with a Conventional Pro-Life position that people have long grown accustomed to and aren't alarmed by and an Exciting New Way to express one's pro-life zeal, which may or may not involving outlawing The Pill?

You know, a lot of people love to mock RINOs and squishes and moderates.

If anyone bothered to ASK us -- "Hey, would this freak people out, or not?" -- we could TELL you. Not because it freaks us out (this doesn't freak me out) but because we're close enough to the center to reliably guess what will freak them out.

And we would have said: Yes. That will freak people out. I strongly advise you to run someone with a less New and Exciting and Scary prolife position.

But no one asks us. People just seem to assume they know everything they need to know, and fuck those stupid RINOs, what do they know, anyway?

Well what makes us "RINOs" is that we're closer to the center, right? So maybe it would be wise to use as a sounding board for this kind of thing instead of just demonizing us as The Other.

Most RINOs will vote for a Cuccinelli, even if we're bothered by these positions. But the problem is that you're starting to lose even the RINOs (even though most will dutifully pull the lever for Cuccinelli).

Your problem is that moderates are now voting against Cucc in bigger numbers.

People keep blaming RINOs for losses like these when all we're doing is predicting the outcome.

Posted by: ace at November 05, 2013 07:59 PM (/FnUH)

_____________________________________________________________

True, Ace, and the same can be said for those warning about the merits of defund and a gov't shutdown. I think most RINOs are willing to coexist with TruCons, not sure of the inverse anymore. At least taking what I am reading here at face value.

Posted by: CausticConservative at November 05, 2013 04:04 PM (gT3jF)

310 Maybe Sarvis will bite them in the ass by taking more votes from McCauliffe than Cuccinelli.

Posted by: steevy at November 05, 2013 04:04 PM (zqvg6)

311 295 Ace,

I'd think getting cancelled from your coverage would freak you out more than an imaginary patriarchial theocracy....

evidently I'd be wrong....

I'm buying seven acres in New Brunswick next year....

If wife makes it to retirement I'm leaving.

Have fun on the sleigh ride.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 05, 2013 04:04 PM (9jfyN)

312 Well, I feel like my fever is spiking.

Later, Horde.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 05, 2013 04:05 PM (lVPtV)

313 The problem is that even the moderate, non-social conservatives get stuck with the branding because of people like Akin. Sorry, it is a team sport, and certain positions are much more damaging to one side than the other. We need candidates with more discipline, or, we need a better way to counter media narratives. Preferably, both.

Posted by: Matt S. at November 05, 2013 04:05 PM (BBfhc)

314 So then your suggestion is running candidates who are more centrist? More to the middle? Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 05, 2013 08:02 PM (GEICT)
No Labels, baby!

Posted by: Jon Huntsman at November 05, 2013 04:05 PM (H0R/1)

315 How does that fucking happen?? Posted by: prescient11 at November 05, 2013 08:03 PM (y8MBg) because they wanna slap down anyone who objects to the status quo

Posted by: Kawfytawk at November 05, 2013 04:05 PM (EY4Et)

316

Bcochran:

You fucking nailed it. We've been running centrist guys for a long time. Long time establishment guys. And getting our asses handed to us.

What kind of candidate blew away the field.

Ronald fucking Reagan. And don't give me the increased minority population bs. We win MS with a 44% minority population. But we can win fucking MN or WI, lily white states. Explain that shit to me...

Posted by: prescient11 at November 05, 2013 04:05 PM (y8MBg)

317 >>>He's leading by over 150,000 votes. I think that race is safe to call for Obenshain.

No way. No way in hell. If Obenshain wins (and that's a big IF), it'll be a tight race.

Posted by: Jeff B. at November 05, 2013 04:05 PM (n/+FT)

318 Chesterfield County 72 of 74 precincts reporting (includes absentee). Governor Terry McAuliffe Ken Cuccinelli Robert Sarvis Write In 40633 48368 9561 907

Posted by: Voltaire's Crack at November 05, 2013 04:05 PM (gXtDC)

319 A little VA history. VA, the home of the capital of the Confederacy, was run by the democrat Byrd organization for 40 years. They were conservative. The reason the governor's race is on an off year was to keep Blacks from showing up to vote like they would in a Presidential year. Until NOVA started making a difference and Richmond and Norfolk became so Black, the rural parts of the commonwealth ran the place. Now, no so much. Shit happens.

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 05, 2013 04:05 PM (0FSuD)

320 Dang idiots are voting to raise the meals tax.

Posted by: Boss Moss the Redskin Savage at November 05, 2013 04:06 PM (Kud5A)

321 I'm tired of the whole fucking "abortion" fight. The media loves to prop up this question against candidates. Abortion has no relevency in my opinion. Roe vs Wade is the law of the land and yet we keep "debating" it. "Would you make abortion illegal?" questions don't need to exist and yet morons keep answering it and keeping it alive. "Does life begin at conception" also needs to stop being answered by Republicans.

Posted by: Kaitian at November 05, 2013 04:06 PM (AFTTf)

322 But the blue areas have to come seeing to matter

Posted by: j44 at November 05, 2013 04:06 PM (4GMZA)

323 310 It's like you don't even read.

Posted by: WAGOPinTX at November 05, 2013 04:06 PM (i2t2+)

324 In the richest parts of the richest county, Fairfax, TMac is outperforming even Obama.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 05, 2013 04:06 PM (ZPrif)

325 My problem with the fucking RINOs that run the establishment is that they let KC get OUTSPENT 25 TO FUCKING 1. In a KEY FUCKING SWING STATE. How does that fucking happen??

That's a good question. If the Dems want to make the election about how the GOP have a flawed candidate, how come the GOP can't find some knife fighters to explain to the voters that McAuliffe was/is a crook?

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at November 05, 2013 04:07 PM (d7tB2)

326 You don't get that luxury if you are -R. You get zero screw ups; no extra balls at the arcade; no one-up mushrooms. ONE stupid thing, that's all you get.

Posted by: Matt S. at November 05, 2013 08:03 PM (BBfhc)

Yeah, Remember when I put that dog on my car roof. Oh shit and those binders full of women. - Mitt the 47% Romney

Posted by: The Jackhole at November 05, 2013 04:07 PM (nTgAI)

327

It is sad to come here and see people, day after day declare war on the GOP and plot how to bring about the down fall of the GOP (while ignoring Democrats) and then when their views get in front of the voters, and they lose once again, it is the fault of the GOP they are trying to destroy.

Hint: If you want their help stop trying to destroy them.

Posted by: petunia at November 05, 2013 04:07 PM (DAcBA)

328 Fairfax, Alexandria and Arlington are toast; blue as it gets (a few red pockets left in Fairfax). Loudoun, where I live is a mixed bag. Went for Ogabe twice, but currently has a 100% GOP board of supervisors.

Only thing that may save us from 5 years of the hack is some gridlock thanks to a GOP-controlled legislature. Hoping we can survive and the Dems end up regretting Mcauliffe.

2014 should be interesting as 404care plays out and the employer mandate kicks in.

Posted by: Pete at November 05, 2013 04:07 PM (TiZlI)

329 Ronald fucking Reagan. And don't give me the increased minority population bs. We win MS with a 44% minority population. But we can win fucking MN or WI, lily white states. Explain that shit to me... Posted by: prescient11 at November 05, 2013 08:05 PM (y8MBg) __________________ Had the election of 1984 been held in 2012, Reagan would have 52-48. He won 59-41 in 1984. It's not BS. The demographic changes are real and they are killing the GOP.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 05, 2013 04:07 PM (QI9SE)

330 Posted by: ace at November 05, 2013 07:59 PM (/FnUH) Got no argument with that one, ace. It's the big picture that is bothersome. If we have to get so close to being Democrats to "win", why share ownership of the inevitable horrific outcomes?

Posted by: Meremortal, Low Info Mofo at November 05, 2013 04:07 PM (1Y+hH)

331 Roe vs Wade is the law of the land and yet we keep "debating" Ah. So then we should stop debating ObamaCare? You agree with the President...It's. The. Law.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 05, 2013 04:08 PM (GEICT)

332 KC gets outspent 25-1 in Virginia by TM because of this: our real-estate developers. They hate KC. KC isn't into crony capitalism or corporatism, he, in fact, hates it. TM lives for it. For state offices in VA there is no limit on how much corporations can give to candidates, and all of the developers, to a man, showered TM with money and starved KC. TM's a prodigious fundraiser to begin with, that was his claim to fame back in the Clinton years. It's been all TM all the time around the airwaves here for the last month. Over top stuff, too.

Posted by: Cowboy at November 05, 2013 04:08 PM (f73Jj)

333 308 Caustic Conservative,

you got it...the GOPe message is Illegal Aliens get better results than their base.

Not a problem if I an not gonna get sane economic policy, dismantling of liberal power blocs and a constant slide towards sodom I am at best quitting and at worst empowering the suck faster.

The GOP is doomed.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 05, 2013 04:08 PM (9jfyN)

334 You don't get that luxury if you are -R. You get zero screw ups; no extra balls at the arcade; no one-up mushrooms. ONE stupid thing, that's all you get.

Posted by: Matt S. at November 05, 2013 08:03 PM (BBfhc)

--------------------------------------------------

Yup. Dems could rape and then burn 7 year old girls on live tv and they get a pass. Let a repub be honest about a pharmacutical product and they're dead in the water. Maybe I will go somewhere and watch the destruction of this nation from a distance.

Posted by: Soona at November 05, 2013 04:08 PM (JvRFW)

335 311 Tylenol is good for breaking fevers.

Posted by: steevy at November 05, 2013 04:08 PM (zqvg6)

336

Yes hobo, we need the apparatus of this state in place for 2016.

And they are going to let a Clinton stooge run it for four fucking years???

Ace, for all the bitching about KC, why in the hell did the GOP abandon him??

How could he be so outspent in this fight????

Posted by: prescient11 at November 05, 2013 04:08 PM (y8MBg)

337 Here's a big problem: in the very Democratic precincts of Northern Virginia, MacAuliffe is outperforming OBAMA in 2012. In an off-year election.

Posted by: Jeff B. at November 05, 2013 04:09 PM (n/+FT)

338 How are they calling VA for McAuliffe if the numbers are what I'm seeing? Am I just stupid? Sorry if this has been discussed to death already, I just got home and saw this and Drudge and I am so confused!

Posted by: Peaches at November 05, 2013 04:09 PM (8lmkt)

339 Fairfax gets worse. Possible outcome. 95111.6087 C 143857.2174 M

Posted by: Kaitian at November 05, 2013 04:09 PM (AFTTf)

340 Sure, let's freak out about theoretical abortion laws that will never happen, since it's completely unrelated to the actual issue of how govt supporting people (and people supported by govt) will vote for the State's Candidate. Because the 50-something lifelong union guys I saw voting today really love and respect, as a person and a leader, someone like Terry or Hillary. Naturally they do. Whatevs. Circular firing squad, activate! Meanwhile . . . outspent by national dems, 8-1. 25-1 advertising (because of the D "discount" they seem to get for placements). And yet, it's close. Fuck it I'll take that. I didn't think that dude could beat the Clinton's pet anyway.

Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 05, 2013 04:09 PM (2up3Q)

341 330 BC1981,

with the added bonus Ogabecare also brings back servitude since chattel was once the law of the land

Posted by: sven10077 at November 05, 2013 04:09 PM (9jfyN)

342 we're close enough to the center to reliably guess what will freak them out.

Posted by: ace at November 05, 2013 07:59 PM (/FnUH)

Embrace my plan and this will never be a problem again.

All Republican candidates are fitted with shock collars that trigger automatically when they utter the words, "Abortion," Contraception," and "Rape," with voltage increasing with any combination of those words.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 05, 2013 04:09 PM (oJ5Fd)

343 >>Do you really not see the difference between someone with a Conventional Pro-Life position that people have long grown accustomed to and aren't alarmed by and an Exciting New Way to express one's pro-life zeal, which may or may not involving outlawing The Pill?<<

I'm not a doctor, and I'm not trying to play one in the internet, but doesn't the pill work by not allowing fertilization? Is there maybe some conflation here with abortaficients like RU-486?

Posted by: Albie Damned at November 05, 2013 04:10 PM (Yhu4q)

344 334 311 Tylenol is good for breaking fevers. Posted by: steevy at November 05, 2013 08:08 PM (zqvg6) It will fuck up your liver, DON'T take it if you drink. SERIOUSLY

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 05, 2013 04:10 PM (0FSuD)

345 You don't get that luxury if you are -R. You get zero screw ups; no extra balls at the arcade; no one-up mushrooms. ONE stupid thing, that's all you get.
Posted by: Matt S. at November 05, 2013 08:03 PM

You don't even get ONE stupid thing. Not even the hint of one.

Yes, it would be nice if the media cut conservative candidates an occasional break -- as they do incessantly with their own -- but the days of that even being a remote possibility are past.

It's a whole new ballgame now, where the Winning Team not only gets as many at-bats as it wants, but can make up the rules as the game goes on AND provide the umpires to make the calls on close plays.

My take is any change in the current situation is probably going to have to be made in ways that would make Poppin Fresh run go into a shaking, weeping frenzy of fear that "fairness" as he sees it has been swept aside, in favor of people who will go to the mat to protect our Constitution.

Posted by: MrScribbler at November 05, 2013 04:10 PM (kaGpp)

346 Ah. So then we should stop debating ObamaCare? You agree with the President...It's. The. Law. Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 05, 2013 08:08 PM (GEICT) No, you have to understand something about Roe vs Wade. RvW is a Common Law created by the Courts. Obamacare is a law created by Congress and the Courts rejected the arguments against it.

Posted by: Kaitian at November 05, 2013 04:11 PM (AFTTf)

347 337 How are they calling VA for McAuliffe if the numbers are what I'm seeing? Am I just stupid? Sorry if this has been discussed to death already, I just got home and saw this and Drudge and I am so confused! Posted by: Peaches at November 05, 2013 08:09 PM (8lmkt) _______ They haven't counted anything in Democrat areas.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 05, 2013 04:11 PM (QI9SE)

348 To be honest - anyone who tells me they vote based on abortion - gets called an idiot right to their face.

The next "pro-life" candidate who gets "cornered" by the MSM should say the same. "Given today's economic disaster - If you vote for a democrat based on abortion - you are a fucking moron."

Posted by: realityman at November 05, 2013 04:11 PM (Cs9Ps)

349 Hmmm, a 50k vote lead with 27% in is quite large.

Posted by: Bill Mitchell at November 05, 2013 04:11 PM (+9xNn)

350 Over the last few decades the Dems and Repubs have trade white people. The working class whites used to be Dem and the country club whites used to be Repub. Now that has switched. The Repubs got more white votes, but the Dems got the white money. And as America has ever greater income inequality money now means more than votes. And that's how Cucc gets outspent 25-1. Cause a single lunch with a Google billionaire can outspend a year of potlucks at church.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 05, 2013 04:11 PM (ZPrif)

351 Here's the thing, would Cuccinelli really have been a "RINO" had he had the conventional pro-life stance on abortion that allowed a rape exception? Of course not.

So why die on this hill?

All it did was put in place a gun grabbing Clinton crony that's going to make damn sure abortion laws are as loose as possible.

Posted by: Jeepers at November 05, 2013 04:12 PM (XDRsa)

352 "Hint: If you want their help stop trying to destroy them."

But GOD forbid we should ask y'all to stop destroying _us_.

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at November 05, 2013 04:12 PM (PgNb6)

353 People get ready, there is a train a coming

Posted by: Earl Turner at November 05, 2013 04:12 PM (VrVBw)

354 Tmac outperform ? Impossible

Posted by: j44 at November 05, 2013 04:12 PM (4GMZA)

355 Voted straight ticket conservative in NYC, which is the same as Republican, but there was no republican candidate for "public advocate".

Posted by: Penfold at November 05, 2013 04:13 PM (xmZmI)

356 Possible outcome - 36/239 Fairfax counted so far. 87673.16667 C 131011.8333 M

Posted by: Kaitian at November 05, 2013 04:13 PM (AFTTf)

357 No, you have to understand something about Roe vs Wade. RvW is a Common Law created by the Courts. Obamacare is a law created by Congress and the Courts rejected the arguments against it. Posted by: Kaitian at November 05, 2013 08:11 PM (AFTTf) Which supports fighting RvW and not Obamacare. It's Congress that is to make the law, not the courts. Courts making up laws out of thin air, as the SCOTUS did with RvW, is unconstitutional.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 05, 2013 04:13 PM (GEICT)

358 Anything can happen. Some large cities have anemic turnout.

Posted by: Boss Moss the Redskin Savage at November 05, 2013 04:13 PM (Kud5A)

359

Flatbush:

I tend to agree. But the country club set can only buy so much with money. Voters are in the precincts.

Posted by: prescient11 at November 05, 2013 04:13 PM (y8MBg)

360 "Don't take it if you drink" Huh, I got ACA for anything!!!!!!!! WEEEEEEEE!!!

Posted by: Yogi at November 05, 2013 04:13 PM (SIJTE)

361 They haven't counted anything in Democrat areas.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 05, 2013 08:11 PM (QI9SE)

Ah, thanks, Mr. Moo Moo!

Posted by: Peaches at November 05, 2013 04:13 PM (8lmkt)

362 264 electoral votes were in play in 2000. 264 EVs within a ten point margin. Even more in 1980. Republicans die when we narrow the field of choices for ourselves. #MATH as some of you like to say. So for all my perceived lunacy in demanding the GOP take Minnesota, Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and other light blue states seriously as "the new path", I'd love to here the alternative. Because the alternate has fucking sucked hard.

Posted by: CAC at November 05, 2013 04:14 PM (ILb/3)

363 >>>>Got no argument with that one, ace. It's the big picture that is bothersome. If we have to get so close to being Democrats to "win", why share ownership of the inevitable horrific outcomes?

i don't see it as "getting close to Democrats" to declare that I do not believe the state has an interest or right in restricting women's access to birth control pills, and that candidates should not flirt with this idea, nor wink at it, nor sponsor bills that strongly imply it (and would serve as a legal predicate for outlawing birth control pills).

Apparently this is a controversial position in the GOP now, and I'm a "RINO."

Posted by: ace at November 05, 2013 04:14 PM (/FnUH)

364 McAuliffe was the bag man for the Clintons. He is a sleaze bag but one thing he knows how to do is raise buckets of cash. That's what he does. Not real surprising that when he decided to run he would raise a record amount for himself.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 05, 2013 04:14 PM (g1DWB)

365
You must be that CAC person who isn't doing an election coverage thread.

Posted by: Boss Moss the Redskin Savage at November 05, 2013 06:57 PM (Kud5A)

Nah. He's that CAC person who isn't putting up any plaid maps on the election coverage thread that he isn't posting.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 05, 2013 04:14 PM (MBqvE)

366 This is going to make the rest of the week's meeting with the other political folks awkward.

I wasn't a big fan of Cuccinelli, and I only voted for him because I knew whatever social positions he had didn't really matter, since there were bigger issues that needed tackling. But, honestly, I knew when I couldn't go anywhere -- even Pandora -- without hearing how he hated women that the show was pretty much over. If there's an upset tonight, I'll be shocked, but it most likely isn't happening. There's an ad somewhere with Bill Clinton telling us how Cuccinelli hates women.

Yeah. Drink that in.

Posted by: Matt S. at November 05, 2013 04:14 PM (BBfhc)

367 Remember - NoVa is voting for their free shit too - in Washington its all about the perks, both R and D in DC want the perks... in Obamacare the perk is that your health care is protected and paid for, while the plebs must go on the shitty plan.

Of course NoVa is going to "grow" in terms of supporting Obama. They aren't disgusted by Obamacare, they are thrilled by it because they are the winners.

NoVa is in no way at all a representation of the country.

Posted by: realityman at November 05, 2013 04:14 PM (Cs9Ps)

368 We're at the point where abortion is part of these debates only because the media wants it to be, but let's be real about who is on the side of science. Here's a clue, all you ersatz Bill Nye's, the cells are dividing, it's alive. Pretending otherwise reveals you as blind to basic biology as well as the principles involved. Whether that life is eligible for subsidized termination is usually the real issue.

Posted by: Lincolntf at November 05, 2013 04:15 PM (ZshNr)

369 Of course Democrat counties always wait until last to report so they can see how many votes they need to deliver. Always this way.

Posted by: Bill Mitchell at November 05, 2013 04:15 PM (+9xNn)

370 doesn't the pill work by not allowing fertilization?

They work by a combination of suppressing ovulation, thickening the lining of the uterus and making a hostile environment for sperm, and preventing implantation.

Posted by: no good deed at November 05, 2013 04:15 PM (k55Fc)

371 Can we all agree that Sarvis voters can all go to gell?

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 05, 2013 04:15 PM (QI9SE)

372 322 WAGopinTx,

no I read it and am done.

the Gop won't fight, it refuses to attack the media, refuses to attack the joke of US education head on, won't attack the regulatory hyperstate....

what fucking good is a GOP content to let Mika Brazanzski set the dance card.

If lite SoCon's like me who have a problem with Ermy G are such a goddamned burden I will spare you the true GOP your toil and tell you lay down the burden.

The answer to Gop woes is socialism and infanticide pass it on.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 05, 2013 04:15 PM (9jfyN)

373 Ace, for all the bitching about KC, why in the hell did the GOP abandon him??

How could he be so outspent in this fight????

Posted by: prescient11 at November 05, 2013 08:08 PM (y8MBg)

Because the Establishment GOP in VA got their royal nose out of joint when the voters chose Cooch over their golden boy, Bolling. They refused to endorse Cooch even tho it was the will of the people. They are tyrannical egomaniacs who will not be displeased. The big $$ GOP donors actually sent their $$ to McAuliffe!! Can you imagine?

You know, when the GOP runs a moderate, the grassroots are told to STFU and vote for him; but when the grassroots run a conservative, the Establishment takes their ball and gives it to the Dems. I like how party unity only works when the Establishment gets their own way.

Here's a link that is illuminating:

http://tinyurl.com/lz4lp56

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at November 05, 2013 04:15 PM (KL49F)

374 Hey, we are whining about VA. Think of the poor bastards, that would be ace, that live in NYC. A full blown communist is going to be the mayor. I can not imagine, the capital of capitalism is going to be run by a Marxist. Reminds me of Randy Red in London. Good luck ace.

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 05, 2013 04:15 PM (0FSuD)

375 The old Repubs had country club money. The new Dems have Google money. Google money beats country club money by a couple orders of magnitude.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 05, 2013 04:15 PM (ZPrif)

376 Which supports fighting RvW and not Obamacare. It's Congress that is to make the law, not the courts. Courts making up laws out of thin air, as the SCOTUS did with RvW, is unconstitutional. Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 05, 2013 08:13 PM (GEICT) Good luck repealing that. I've rarely seen any action or history by the Congress overriding the Supreme Court on a ruling they disagreed with. However Common Law is enshrined in Judeo-Christian history and so it makes it not so unconstitutional in a sense afterall our Constitution is also based on the same history.

Posted by: Kaitian at November 05, 2013 04:15 PM (AFTTf)

377

CAC:

You are exactly right. EXACTLY RIGHT!!!!

Posted by: prescient11 at November 05, 2013 04:16 PM (y8MBg)

378 C +60k now with 30% in. I really don't recall ever seeing a lead that large overcome.

Posted by: Bill Mitchell at November 05, 2013 04:16 PM (+9xNn)

379 Not enough drugs for me to go to NJ. PERIOD. . . Posted by: Golfman in NC ------------------ The problem is, how the hell do we get/keep them out of NC?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 05, 2013 04:16 PM (aDwsi)

380 A nation without virtue cannot be free. Many of us see what the problem is, but can't convince the others. Hence the circular firing squads.

Posted by: Soona at November 05, 2013 04:16 PM (JvRFW)

381 Ace,

Next you'll tell us you married a beer distribution heiress and your daughter has huge knockers and is dumb as a stump.

Posted by: Penfold at November 05, 2013 04:16 PM (xmZmI)

382 If a ham sandwich can be President, why not governor of Virginia or mayor of New York City? Also interesting that Virginia doesn't seem to mind electing a white Lt Governor who refused to shake a black man's hand.

Posted by: OCBill at November 05, 2013 04:17 PM (rFipM)

383 378 Not enough drugs for me to go to NJ. PERIOD. . . Posted by: Golfman in NC ------------------ The problem is, how the hell do we get/keep them out of NC? Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 05, 2013 08:16 PM (aDwsi) Sell Durham to Belize?

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 05, 2013 04:17 PM (0FSuD)

384 37) Mr Moo Moo,

no I am done arguing that libertarians even retard ones owe the Gop shit...

the Gop has done sweet fuck all about the IRS.....

the states should be prosecuting them.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 05, 2013 04:17 PM (9jfyN)

385 372. This, in spades (pardon the pun)

Posted by: Puttanesca, the sauce at November 05, 2013 04:17 PM (1ThpN)

386 I agree with you, Soona. Cannot see how to proceed except on a very personal level, however.

Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 05, 2013 04:17 PM (2up3Q)

387 They haven't counted anything in Democrat areas. Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 05, 2013 08:11 PM (QI9SE) --That right; I forgot they need to count the votes from GOP heavy areas so they know how many fake votes to win. (Yeah, I'm cynical enough to believe it even happens in VA.)

Posted by: logprof at November 05, 2013 04:17 PM (4BA+Y)

388
Cucc still has a 63,000 vote lead, but bluer counties are starting to come in, and the momentum is beginning to shift to Mcauliffe, I think.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at November 05, 2013 04:18 PM (0IhFx)

389 377 Bill Mitchell,

They'll get as many votes as needed.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 05, 2013 04:18 PM (9jfyN)

390 Cooch is ready to break under 50 on the state election results page.

Fuck the GOP, Fuck them in the ass with grenades.

Posted by: FUBAR at November 05, 2013 04:18 PM (Cs2tJ)

391 making a hostile environment for sperm, and preventing implantation. Posted by: no good deed ------------------------------ My town is full of women that fit that description. Many tattooed and with ~~butch~~ crew cuts.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 05, 2013 04:19 PM (aDwsi)

392 Republicans never learn. We always report our numbers when we actually count them instead of waiting to see how many fake ones we need to win.

Posted by: Bill Mitchell at November 05, 2013 04:19 PM (+9xNn)

393 >>>C +60k now with 30% in. I really don't recall ever seeing a lead that large overcome.

Um...Cooch is on track right now to lose by 3-4%, you do realize this? The Northern Virginia suburbs of DC, which are heavily Democrat, have yet to report much at all. When they come in it'll get bloody quickly.

HOWEVER, a mere 3-4% loss is something I'll happily take, as it means that Obenshain looks good to eke out a win over Herring for AG.

Posted by: Jeff B. at November 05, 2013 04:19 PM (n/+FT)

394 http://huff.to/17KfoWe Without actually counting, it visually looks like Cuccinelli is outperforming Romney so far. Neat graph even if it's Huffpo.

Posted by: Voltaire's Crack at November 05, 2013 04:19 PM (gXtDC)

395 Apparently this is a controversial position in the GOP now, and I'm a "RINO." Posted by: ace at November 05, 2013 08:14 PM

Step One, Ace: find a new term for people who agree with your positions as stated.

Because I agree with you -- and have a few "social-moderate" beliefs that might not sit well with some of the more active posters here -- does not put me in the same camp with scum like Bitch McConnell, Boner, Juan McCain or Miss Lindsey.

If it were up to me, issues that have no place in politics, no matter what your opinion of them, whether Choom Boy-style "let's make it all free for all my peeps" or Ultra-Right "nobody gets nothin', no-how," would be strictly kept out of politics.

Posted by: MrScribbler at November 05, 2013 04:19 PM (kaGpp)

396 osted by: ace at November 05, 2013 08:14 PM (/FnUH) Thanks for the response, but I said I agree with you on the abortion issue. On the larger picture, we cons are being told we must bend on every blasted issue, including nominating moderates who can't win as Presidential candidates.

Posted by: Meremortal, Low Info Mofo at November 05, 2013 04:19 PM (1Y+hH)

397 The question on why the GOP didn't come into play: Would it have mattered? Social issues can kill GOP candidates dead in purple states; what if the internal polling said the fight was over before it started? Should they have thrown good money after bad?

Posted by: Matt S. at November 05, 2013 04:19 PM (BBfhc)

398

Ace:

Not sure what and where the pill has been proposed to be outlawed, but surely no conservative really goes after that.

It's bad that KC had such a position or at least the implication could be made. But did he actually say he would try to outlaw the pill, or is this just some bullshit implication by clever fucking leftists?

Posted by: prescient11 at November 05, 2013 04:19 PM (y8MBg)

399 Cucc still has a 63,000 vote lead, but bluer counties are starting to come in, and the momentum is beginning to shift to Mcauliffe, I think. Posted by: Sticky Wicket at November 05, 2013 08:18 PM (0IhFx) Need me?

Posted by: SMOD at November 05, 2013 04:19 PM (t3UFN)

400 I mean O is max. Basically,we are being told gop voters are very fickle,eat to turn off and donks never not vote in records numbers. If so,fine,we are dead.

Posted by: j44 at November 05, 2013 04:19 PM (4GMZA)

401 Obenshain is only running 2.5% better than Cuccinelli at this point - looks like he needs Cuccinelli to be very close. On the other hand, please remember that the exit polls have had a very large Dem bias (several standard deviations off time after time, which means flawed methodology) throughout the 1990's and 2000's - 2012 was the only exception to this). While it's possible that the methodology this year in Va. was good, this is a big part of the reason networks aren't calling the Va. Gov. race yet - everyone knows that exit polls have been having a substantial Dem "bias" (statistical term of art meaning persistent error, not implying intent).

Posted by: the Count at November 05, 2013 04:20 PM (nLIMC)

402 Yup. Dems could rape and then burn 7 year old girls on live tv and they get a pass. *** Our first "feminist" president got away with serial sexual harassment and probably rape. Is the state media to blame? Yep. But let's be honest, the Republicans at the time were run by incompetents (Bob Fucking Dole?) and it has only gotten worse. Now the Republican party is run by incompetent...liberals. A committed Republican party leadership wins in 1996, and it sure as hell wins in 2012. And yet here we are. Did Cooch ever turn to McAwful on stage, and say something like, "Normally when I'm talking to someone accused of this wrongdoing I'm asking if he wants a plea bargain, not about the particulars of how he wants to deprive the citizens of my state of their rights. "

Posted by: 18-1 at November 05, 2013 04:20 PM (uUvS8)

403 Wonder if there will be any precincts in northern VA with 99% dem vote? It worked well for the dems in the last election.

Posted by: Kawfytawk at November 05, 2013 04:20 PM (EY4Et)

404 385 black orchid,

quite...

Show me the pro choice GOP is a winner....but earn my vote b/c the freebie is gone.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 05, 2013 04:20 PM (9jfyN)

405 Matt Drudge is messing with my head and heart right now.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky wants to know definition of at November 05, 2013 04:20 PM (baL2B)

406 Jonathan S. Tobin ‏@TobinCommentary Closeness of weighted exits should make national GOP regret not pouring more money into Cuccinelli's campaign. Retweeted by Jonah Goldberg

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 05, 2013 04:20 PM (ZPrif)

407 Wow...Twitter is saying that the adjusted exits point to a mere two-point victory for MacAuliffe now.

If that holds up, it's a moral victory I'll take and dance with.

Posted by: Jeff B. at November 05, 2013 04:21 PM (n/+FT)

408 They'll get as many votes as needed. Posted by: sven ----------------------- Same thing Tip O'Neill used to say in Massachusetts.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 05, 2013 04:21 PM (aDwsi)

409 Ace, I would never call you a RINO. You are part of the majority of Republican thought. I'd be a RINO, but I left the party long ago.

Posted by: Meremortal, Low Info Mofo at November 05, 2013 04:21 PM (1Y+hH)

410 Another term for moral victory is loss.

Posted by: Matt S. at November 05, 2013 04:21 PM (BBfhc)

411 Not one person in here has actually disagreed with Ace on the birth control issue, yet he's calling himself a RINO, as if people in here disagree with that birth control position.

Posted by: Rich at November 05, 2013 04:22 PM (3nUrQ)

412 I hate that fucking Terry McAll-lies. He is true scum.

Posted by: Blacksheep at November 05, 2013 04:22 PM (bS6uW)

413 >>>404 Jonathan S. Tobin ‏@TobinCommentary
Closeness of weighted exits should make national GOP regret not pouring more money into Cuccinelli's campaign.
Retweeted by Jonah Goldberg Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 05, 2013 08:20 PM (ZPri

National GOP wanted Cooch to lose. They wanted to teach the grassroots a lesson for daring to buck the system and nominate Cooch. The GOP hates us. The sooner we learn that, the better.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at November 05, 2013 04:22 PM (KL49F)

414 >>>--That right; I forgot they need to count the votes from GOP heavy areas so they know how many fake votes to win. (Yeah, I'm cynical enough to believe it even happens in VA.)

You know, this doesn't just happen in Democratic areas.

Posted by: Waukesha County Board of Elections at November 05, 2013 04:22 PM (n/+FT)

415 I want Christie to run in 2016. He did really well among non GOP groups. We have to secure those first before running anyone like Cruz

Posted by: Flapjackmaka at November 05, 2013 04:22 PM (1FgrF)

416 331Â KC gets outspent 25-1 in Virginia by TM because of this: our real-estate developers. Tell me about it. Va. Beach mayor (R) endorsed McClintonpunk. 334Â 311 Tylenol is good for breaking fevers And horrible on livers. 337Â How are they calling VA for McAuliffe if the numbers are what I'm seeing? Am I just stupid? Sorry if this has been discussed to death already, I just got home and saw this and Drudge and I am so confused! -Peaches I'm right there with you. From what I gather, the DC suburb precincts haven't reported yet, and they typically own VA elections. Still confused, tho. hi, by the way.

Posted by: shredded chi at November 05, 2013 04:22 PM (0IDyD)

417 >>>
I'm not a doctor, and I'm not trying to play one in the internet, but doesn't the pill work by not allowing fertilization? Is there maybe some conflation here with abortaficients like RU-486?

no.

some pills both cause eggs not to descend AND uterine linings to shed. In the latter case, it is hypothetically possible (not that anyone would know when this happens) that an egg could be fertilized, but then not be able to implant in the uterus, due to the operation of the pill's hormones.

Now, this happens every day, naturally, but in this case it would have happened due to taking a pill.

But apparently we have to be SOOOO no-exceptions on abortion that we are now very concerned with abortions after 20 seconds, when we haven't yet won the abortion-after-20-week argument.

Cuccinelli was told this by scientists, but decided to ignore it, because Fuck Science, and so included no birth-control-pill exception in the bill. As it reads, it would outlaw some birth control pills.

You know, we lose a lot of single women over the abortion issue. Fine, I get that -- this is very important to prolife people.

But now, bringing the birth control pill into the mix, we're now talking about married women too. Now we're even losing PRO-LIFE women who want to minimize their risks of pregnancy. Women who want to make sure they don't get pregnant, so they go on the pill.

You can't keep fucking with people -- attempting to fuck with their liberty -- and not expect to suffer consequences.

if people want to support such an extreme version of the pro-life policy, such that we cannot even countennance the statistical likelhihood that some additional fertilized eggs will fail to implant (above and beyond those that naturally fail to implant), then fine, but then own this; Then you really are attempting to "control women's sexuality" and "turn them into baby factories" (or you're demanding they remain abstinent), and you also own the consequences of this policy.

At some point we have to stop driving people away from voting for us. It's not like we're getting 60% of the vote and can decided who we can afford to lose. We're getting our asses kicked lately, capped at around 47%.

Posted by: ace at November 05, 2013 04:22 PM (/FnUH)

418 410 I hate that fucking Terry McAll-lies. He is true scum. Posted by: Blacksheep at November 05, 2013 08:22 PM (bS6uW) No one disagrees.

Posted by: Kaitian at November 05, 2013 04:23 PM (AFTTf)

419 f that holds up, it's a moral victory I'll take and dance with I'll even dance with you esp since the later exits in the Christie race were more heartening than I expected! Think about this - this is Terry McAuliffe! he should have walked away with this. The "real" R candidate lost the primary!

Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 05, 2013 04:23 PM (2up3Q)

420 I wouldn't take Tylenol every day,no,but occasional use wont hurt you.

Posted by: steevy at November 05, 2013 04:23 PM (zqvg6)

421 373 Nip Sip,

nah NYC will be great...as a matter of fact the NYCGOP is the pathway to national wins

Posted by: sven10077 at November 05, 2013 04:23 PM (9jfyN)

422 Cheer up CAC

One year from today Scott Walker will be on the ballot again.

Posted by: mama winger at November 05, 2013 04:24 PM (P6QsQ)

423 Cucc repeatedly said he would pass no laws restricting birth control. He had to repeatedly say that because of the very effective smear campaign that claimed he wanted to ban birth control pills.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 05, 2013 04:24 PM (ZPrif)

424 I'm beat

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 05, 2013 04:24 PM (t3UFN)

425 Who the hell is Barbara Buono? And why would a democrat not win in New Jersey?

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at November 05, 2013 04:24 PM (b9K4P)

426 >>>National GOP wanted Cooch to lose. They wanted to teach the grassroots a lesson for daring to buck the system and nominate Cooch. The GOP hates us. The sooner we learn that, the better.

Don't be silly. The national GOP would love nothing more than for TERRY FUCKING MACAULIFFE to lose an upset to a guy pegged as being less popular than herpes, on the back of massive outrage over Obamacare. It would be the perfect narrative.

Stop with they "oh, they hates us!" stuff. The National GOP wants the GOP to win elections. Always. Every single time. They are perfectly capable of preferring the wrong candidates, or botching resource allocation, but they never, ever, ever prefer to see a GOP candidate lose rather than win.

Posted by: Jeff B. at November 05, 2013 04:24 PM (n/+FT)

427 FYI - a glimmer of hope

Jessica Taylor ‏@JessicaTaylor 29s

Cuccinelli gets better margins among middle aged voters, seniors. Cuccinelli leads 65+ 51%-44%, 45-44yo voters (46%of voters) 48%-45% #VAGov
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Chuck Todd ‏@chucktodd 48s

So far, our various vote models do not all point in same direction, hence change in VA GOV to Â“too closeÂ”
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Jessica Taylor ‏@JessicaTaylor 2m

In new #VAGov exits, McAuliffe still up big with 18-29 y.o. voters, 45%-39%, with Sarvis again getting 16%
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Jessica Taylor ‏@JessicaTaylor 4m

#VAGov new tighter exitsÂ–McAuliffe now only up 8 pts among women, 50%-42%

Posted by: AHFF Geoff at November 05, 2013 04:24 PM (Co70e)

428 419 373 Nip Sip, nah NYC will be great...as a matter of fact the NYCGOP is the pathway to national wins Posted by: sven10077 at November 05, 2013 08:23 PM (9jfyN) Whatever you are smoking, would you share?

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 05, 2013 04:24 PM (0FSuD)

429 Incrementalism is something the right needs to learn and accept. The left rarely wins by going big and going home; it laid the ground work for the ACA for DECADES people, and struck when the iron was hot. If you want RvW overturned, you aren't going to do it in a single electoral coup.

Posted by: Matt S. at November 05, 2013 04:25 PM (BBfhc)

430 Pro tip for libtards - Helium, and a bag over your head. It ends in 5 breaths. Totally painless. You just black out.

Posted by: UWP at November 05, 2013 04:25 PM (fdXMW)

431 >>>Not one person in here has actually disagreed with Ace on the birth control issue, yet he's calling himself a RINO, as if people in here disagree with that birth control position.

no, but what people like Flatbush Joe are doing is denying that Cucc is a so-con warrior, despite him cosponsoring a bill that he was warned would, by implication, outlaw birth control pills.

Yes, he is a so-con warrior, and he got destroyed on this all through the election.

Posted by: ace at November 05, 2013 04:25 PM (/FnUH)

432 396 He sponsored legislation that would define life as beginning at fertilization, and declined to alter it to clarify that if that legislation passed (of course it didn't), it wouldn't affect women's right to use birth control that prevents a fertilized egg from implanting.

Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone at November 05, 2013 04:25 PM (GmTxn)

433 Do the Democrats ever abandon candidates with no support like the GOP routinely does?

Posted by: steevy at November 05, 2013 04:25 PM (zqvg6)

434 That right; I forgot they need to count the votes from GOP heavy areas so they know how many fake votes to win. (Yeah, I'm cynical enough to believe it even happens in VA.) *** I think it is an open secret now that is not how it works - at least not exactly. Democrat strongholds strategically remove real votes and replace them with fakes. Then if they need the extra votes they "find" the very real, very honest votes they "misplaced". Note that this happens in close elections with regularity now. So you can never establish there is a problem with the found votes because there isn't...but the left has a great way to supplement the vote total if they want and there is no easy way to stop it.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 05, 2013 04:25 PM (uUvS8)

435 if Cuccinelli loses by a very slim margin...just imagine what could have happened if the R-party actually sent some money his way....so who is screwing who?

Posted by: Kawfytawk at November 05, 2013 04:25 PM (EY4Et)

436 @372

Need to correct you on one thing; the voters didn't choose Cooch over Bolling. The GOP has been doing a state convention. Not saying I'd prefer Bolling at all, but IMO, this is one problem; they need to just have a primary and let the rank and file GOP decide on their candidates. Cut out all the back room crap.

Posted by: Pete at November 05, 2013 04:25 PM (TiZlI)

437 Wow...Twitter is saying that the adjusted exits point to a mere two-point victory for MacAuliffe now.

If that holds up, it's a moral victory I'll take and dance with.
Posted by: Jeff B.

Like I said. Might be better

Posted by: mrp at November 05, 2013 04:25 PM (HjPtV)

438 407 metemortal,

correct Empire of Jeff and I were the RINOs....

Posted by: sven10077 at November 05, 2013 04:25 PM (9jfyN)

439 We could probably run a pro-abortion republican candidate... and by the end of the election - every low information voter would recognize that candidate as the supreme warlord commander on the war on women, who wants to ban birth control all together.

These people edit sound clips to make people look racist... they certainly have no problem lying about your views and making it stick.

Posted by: realityman at November 05, 2013 04:25 PM (Cs9Ps)

440 Fairfax County - Possible Outcome 88856.78571 C 134642.3571 M 45785.57143 Mc Lead over C

Posted by: Kaitian at November 05, 2013 04:25 PM (AFTTf)

441 So for all my perceived lunacy in demanding the GOP take Minnesota, Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and other light blue states seriously as "the new path", I'd love to here the alternative.

My understanding is that those are less "blue" or "red" states but mainly white states. Getting their turnout means pivoting to a platform that more-or-less explicitly supports whites - not "Reaganism", not "conservative values", not even "America" but "we'll keep your streets and schools safe" and "we'll protect your jobs".

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at November 05, 2013 04:25 PM (d7tB2)

442 422 I'm beat Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 05, 2013 08:24 PM (t3UFN) Tell me about it.

Posted by: The Chicken at November 05, 2013 04:26 PM (0FSuD)

443 I'd be a RINO, but I left the party long ago.

Posted by: Meremortal, Low Info Mofo at November 05, 2013 08:21 PM (1Y+hH)

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I left a year ago today.

Posted by: mama winger at November 05, 2013 04:26 PM (P6QsQ)

444 Can an election be uncalled? According to the NY Times as of one minute ago, the race is now: http://www.nytimes.com/projects/elections/2013/general/virginia/map.html CANDIDATE PARTY VOTES PCT. Kenneth T. Cuccinelli II Rep. 381,312 50.3% Terry McAuliffe Dem. 322,186 42.5% Robert Sarvis Lib. 54,213 7.2% 39% reporting But wait -- there's more!! Accoridng to accompanying map, these result INCLUDE come of the northern liberal counties. Meanwhile, some rural conservatice counties have yet to be counted. With 39% of the vote in already, it's actually starting to get interesting. I realize that the northern liberal counties have huge populations, and are only partly counted so far, but the count is nearly the halfway mark and McAuliffe has yet to make his move. Could it actually end up being close???

Posted by: zombie at November 05, 2013 04:26 PM (+cx5n)

445 Don't have a ton of hope about this one, but there's so many goddamned eeyores on this thread that I thought I had clicked on HotAir by mistake.

Posted by: MM at November 05, 2013 04:26 PM (xt7Ax)

446 For example: If we can't even get some states to get on board with requiring an abortion facility to have the same basic medical standards as any other facility, we're probably not going to get abortion rolled back at all.

Posted by: Matt S. at November 05, 2013 04:26 PM (BBfhc)

447 Not enough drugs for me to go to NJ. PERIOD. . .

Posted by: Golfman in NC at November 05, 2013 07:05 PM (q1C00)

Feelings the same here about North Carolina. Do they have indoor plumbing and shit, yet? ;-)

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at November 05, 2013 04:26 PM (tAoev)

448 Same as every election. 95% of the state red with blue concentrated in the urban centers where the big welfare groups live.

Posted by: Bill Mitchell at November 05, 2013 04:27 PM (+9xNn)

449 KC's positions on these things were worse than useless but you don't need a RINO to tell you that. I keep saying this. Social cons have not done the ground work. Now it doesn't help that RINOs won't even deign to help on ANY front. You can't be going socon heavy in a purple state. People look to protect those around them first. Yes, McAwful ran a whole load of smear ads but there was no good way to clear through the bullshit. I think w money and w/o the odd socon position tarnish KC wins this. So I don't see this as a straight repudiation of tea party mindset and either republicans or conservatives. What it does mean is that you have to formulate a career and attitude that resonates with the public. For better or worse, this is what Christie has done. I believe conservative populism can win but you need to able to make things resonate with people. There are enough people listening. Hit those near the LIVs and you change dynamics. The first Palinite that gets around the hack machine will clean house. The problem is getting the party behind them. I don't think the GOP will allow it because it doesn't serve their personal interests, but the path is there.

Posted by: Former Mass. Resident at November 05, 2013 04:27 PM (0MSn4)

450 The only reason why Democrats wants immigration "reform" aka amnesty is to secure Democratic strongholds over the nation even in the red solid states.

Posted by: Kaitian at November 05, 2013 04:27 PM (AFTTf)

451 I want Christie to run in 2016. He did really well among non GOP groups. We have to secure those first before running anyone like Cruz *** If the Rs feel they don't need conservative votes that is a pretty good plan.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 05, 2013 04:27 PM (uUvS8)

452 >>>>Stop with they "oh, they hates us!" stuff. The National GOP wants the GOP to win elections. Always. Every single time. They are perfectly capable of preferring the wrong candidates, or botching resource allocation, but they never, ever, ever prefer to see a GOP candidate lose rather than win. Exactly. Even a "RINO" like myself would have pulled the lever on Akin or Mourdock (ended up voting Cruz in, FWIW).

Posted by: WAGOPinTX at November 05, 2013 04:27 PM (i2t2+)

453 Maybe I'm dreaming here but a 61k lead with 40% in is pretty freakin big.

Posted by: Bill Mitchell at November 05, 2013 04:28 PM (+9xNn)

454 426 Nip Sip,

Hopium is a helluva drug......

I'm just about past caring about the GOP as anything but a hedge on our pension.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 05, 2013 04:28 PM (9jfyN)

455 398 I mean O is max.

Basically,we are being told gop voters are very fickle,eat to turn off and donks never not vote in records numbers. If so,fine,we are dead.

Posted by: j44 at November 05, 2013 08:19 PM (4GMZA)

________________________________________________________________

GOP voters are fickle. And determined to become even more so. The RINO establishment, the Teahadis, and the SOCONS are all going to have to make peace to win on a large scale under the GOP banner.

And I am not even certain they want to do that.

Cruz, Christie, or Santorum won't get it done for any of the other factions than their own. It is going to have to be somebody else.

Posted by: CausticConservative at November 05, 2013 04:28 PM (gT3jF)

456 Fox is saying it is too close to call

Posted by: Sharon at November 05, 2013 04:28 PM (DtEq4)

457 i don't know what to say....i linked to the mayo clinic site a week or more ago? that explained that the birth control pill will not abort a baby...if you take a bunch of them at the same time maybe/yes....but that would be abusing the drug and you may in fact end up aborting yourself at the same time.... but what ever.....

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at November 05, 2013 04:28 PM (8JJ6O)

458 Posted by: Kawfytawk at November 05, 2013 08:25 PM (EY4Et)

It's a self-fulfilling prophecy with the Establishment: they deem a candidate to be unelectable so they send no $$... and thus the candidate is unelectable. But in this case, the Establishment actively wanted Cooch to lose.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at November 05, 2013 04:28 PM (KL49F)

459

JeffB:

That is total fucking bullshit. If the National GOP wanted KC to win, or to put up a good fight, they NEVER, EVER would have allowed KC to get OUTSPENT 25 to 1.

I have yet to hear from any poster on here, including ace, how in the fuck such a lack of funding support make sense.

If Cucinnelli wins, IT WILL BE A TOTAL REPUDIATION of not only Zero, but of the real fucking RINOs that will slit any candidates throat that they apparently don't like.

Such traitors need to exit stage left, right fucking now. These backstabbing fucks have been undermining the real fights we are trying to have on these issues.

Posted by: prescient11 at November 05, 2013 04:28 PM (y8MBg)

460 Could it actually end up being close??? Posted by: zombie at November 05, 2013 08:26 PM

You might recall that a shit-ton of people went to bed on Election Night, 1960 thinking Tricky Dick had beaten JFK.

Democrats are good at this stuff.

Posted by: MrScribbler at November 05, 2013 04:28 PM (kaGpp)

461 But I fully expect that with 90% of the votes in, Democrat areas will finally report with 100% of all votes going to M.

Posted by: Bill Mitchell at November 05, 2013 04:28 PM (+9xNn)

462 IÂ’m sure the feeling is mutual. WASHINGTON Â– Â“Double Down,Â” a book by senior MSNBC correspondents Mark Halperin and John Heilemann was released Tuesday, revealing behind-the-scenes political stories from the American race for presidency in 2012. In contrast to the attempt to combine Israel in the campaign, the Israeli subject is hardly mentioned in the book, other than one meeting of Obama with his aides a year before the elections to discuss foreign matters in the campaign. When the Israeli-Palestinian issue came up, Obama referred to Netanyahu, saying: Â“We all know Bibi Netanyahu is a pain in the ass.Â”

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 05, 2013 04:29 PM (t3UFN)

463 Anyone ever experience a high from a fever? Yay!

Anyhow, if McLiar wins, fuck VA with a millions barbed wire-wrapped dildoes.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 05, 2013 04:29 PM (lVPtV)

464
Not GOP here so no dog in this fight, but it seems to me that any chick (or dude) that believes that the govt will take away birth control especially after obamacare made it mandatory is a dumbass. right out.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 05, 2013 04:29 PM (nKUHR)

465 >>>They refused to endorse Cooch even tho it was the will of the people.

actually there was no "Will of the People." The party, in its genius, canceled the primary election and instead made it an election by elected delegate (that is, a small election of party office holders).

So they rigged the game.

Stuff this "will of the people" crap. bolling may be a douche but the party scrapped a regular primary election to force their guy in, bypassing "the will of the people."

Posted by: ace at November 05, 2013 04:29 PM (/FnUH)

466 Feelings the same here about North Carolina. Do they have indoor plumbing and shit, yet? ;-) Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at November 05, 2013 08:26 PM (tAoev) Yeah, Jersey got indoor plumbing last year, everywhere but Newark.

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 05, 2013 04:29 PM (0FSuD)

467 452 Fubar,

quite...what the Va and national Gop said is "it's ok to vote fo Clinton gangers"....

,ok message received e you in 2016 Rove

Posted by: sven10077 at November 05, 2013 04:29 PM (9jfyN)

468 WTF is up with Drudge?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 05, 2013 04:30 PM (lVPtV)

469

Every time the rules governing vaginas come up it dominates the discussion, no other issues get discussed. Like right now.

So you get what we have here today. That's the way he wants it, well he gets it.

Posted by: The Jackhole at November 05, 2013 04:30 PM (nTgAI)

470 451 Maybe I'm dreaming here but a 61k lead with 40% in is pretty freakin big.

Posted by: Bill Mitchell at November 05, 2013 08:28 PM (+9xNn)

Who is this guy? He and Matt Drudge are messing with me.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky wants to know definition of at November 05, 2013 04:30 PM (baL2B)

471 459 But I fully expect that with 90% of the votes in, Democrat areas will finally report with 100% of all votes going to M. Posted by: Bill Mitchell Yep. The Dems are awful at running a country, but they are stone-cold geniuses at vote fraud.

Posted by: zombie at November 05, 2013 04:30 PM (+cx5n)

472 @425
If sarvis is getting that many votes from the youngsters, we need a new voter classification; LILVs (Low Info Libertarian Voters). All the hipster tards who heard than libertarianism is cool but have no f'ing clue what it means, to see that Sarvis is a fraud.

Posted by: Pete at November 05, 2013 04:30 PM (TiZlI)

473 Hmm. Ace. You're missing something. If the egg is fertilized, no, the uterine lining isn't actually shed. If the egg is fertilized successfully, something entirely different happens! Now, sometimes you have (this is actually rarer than IF docs lead you to believe) problems forming a good lining due to low progesterone. But in reality, that's a *symptom* of a failed pregnancy (the low progesterone and too-thin lining). Oh they'll give you meds to plump both of those up - and yet if your pregnancies are no-gos (due to chromosomal or other problems) they'll still fail, no matter what. Your miscarriage will just take longer. or you'll need a d and c. I went thru a painfully ridiculous number of miscarriages. But when it finally worked, it worked, with no ART. My IF experience taught me two things - 1) Abortion is WRONG, and 2) You cannot control everything.

Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 05, 2013 04:31 PM (2up3Q)

474 You might recall that a shit-ton of people went to bed on Election Night, 1960 thinking Tricky Dick had beaten JFK. Democrats are good at this stuff. And that is why, even today, down state IL will not report their votes till Chicago reports theirs.

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 05, 2013 04:31 PM (0FSuD)

475 So VA has solved the worry of not possible GOP vagina meddling by a for certain D Clinton crook up their ass.

Posted by: DaveA at November 05, 2013 04:31 PM (DL2i+)

476 I swear, if McLiar loses, watching Mika's hair catch on fire tomorrow will be fucking awesome.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 05, 2013 04:31 PM (lVPtV)

477 Incrementalism is something the right needs to learn and accept. The left rarely wins by going big and going home; it laid the ground work for the ACA for DECADES people, and struck when the iron was hot. If you want RvW overturned, you aren't going to do it in a single electoral coup. Posted by: Matt S. at November 05, 2013 08:25 PM (BBfhc) Pffft! CHARGE!!!

Posted by: Maj. Gen. George Pickett at November 05, 2013 04:31 PM (Vk2pI)

478 If you must know, my secret is Chesterfield County.
Ken's # there are atrocious.
That's what made me confident enough to make the call so early.

Posted by: CAC at November 05, 2013 07:39 PM (ILb/3)

I'm not saying you will be wrong but Cucc is doing as well as Romney in Chesterfield by percentage and that's with the Libertarian taking 10% of the vote. Yeah Obama won Virginia but nobody called it this early. Obama won by 3%.

McAuliffe is running 8% behind the Dem Lt Gov candidate in the results that have come in.

Posted by: Rocks at November 05, 2013 04:31 PM (vR0sZ)

479 Stop with they "oh, they hates us!" stuff. The National GOP wants the GOP to win elections. Always. Every single time. They are perfectly capable of preferring the wrong candidates, or botching resource allocation, but they never, ever, ever prefer to see a GOP candidate lose rather than win. ---- oh.... really

Posted by: Allen West at November 05, 2013 04:31 PM (IrLKP)

480 The only reason why Democrats wants immigration "reform" aka amnesty is to secure Democratic strongholds over the nation even in the red solid states.

There's another reason, maybe even more to the point:
http://www.xenosystems.net/quote-notes-9/#comment-8835

[takes awhile to load - but do read Handle's comment]

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at November 05, 2013 04:31 PM (d7tB2)

481 362 ---I do not believe the state has an interest or right in restricting women's access to birth control pills, and that candidates should not flirt with this idea, nor wink at it, nor sponsor bills that strongly imply it (and would serve as a legal predicate for outlawing birth control pills). Posted by: ace at November 05, 2013 08:14 PM (/FnUH) -------------------------------------- You forgot banning tampons. Cuccinelli has repeatedly said he is NOT remotely interested in banning birth control pills. WHO is? I have seen countless ads telling me that Obenchain wants to ban birth control. Over and over. This is the same Obenchain who was endorsed by the left-wing, pro-choice Roanoke Times. Explain that. They know damned well it's is a manufactured issue on the same level as the accusation that Romney wanted to ban tampons. Dirty dishonest campaigning.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 05, 2013 04:31 PM (dfYL9)

482 With 56% of precincts reporting, Cuccinelli clings to a 5.5% lead. McC is gaining, but fast enough???

Posted by: zombie at November 05, 2013 04:32 PM (+cx5n)

483 The Dems are awful at running a country, but they are stone-cold geniuses at vote fraud.

Posted by: zombie at November 05, 2013 08:30 PM (+cx5n)

Maybe HHS should attach the voting machine software to get the numbers of those who have signed up*

*given personal data to universe

Posted by: ChristyBlinky wants to know definition of at November 05, 2013 04:32 PM (baL2B)

484 >>>Maybe I'm dreaming here but a 61k lead with 40% in is pretty freakin big.

eh, who knows. Fox seems to think it's competitive.

but i do worry that the outstanding votes are from the heavily populated and very liberal NOVA suburbs.

Posted by: ace at November 05, 2013 04:32 PM (/FnUH)

485 449 18-1,

Yup....the 2 for 1 plan....

I'll write in KGus Hall before voting for an anti-gun Republican

Posted by: sven10077 at November 05, 2013 04:32 PM (9jfyN)

486 Virginia has open primaries by law. The "will of the people" include many many democrats in the republican primary. I always vote in the dem primary.

Posted by: dagny at November 05, 2013 04:32 PM (Wsv8z)

487 >>And I am not even certain they want to do that.Cruz, Christie, or Santorum won't get it done for any of the other factions than their own. It is going to have to be somebody else. I thought Rubio had a real shot but he decided to go full retard in his first few months in the Senate. I don't see how he comes back from that. Maybe Rand Paul. Can't believe I'm saying that with his bloodlines but he is quietly becoming a real player.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 05, 2013 04:33 PM (g1DWB)

488 Posted by: zombie at November 05, 2013 08:26 PM (+cx5n)

Thank you for this. As a Christian, I know there is ALWAYS hope. I'm praying and white-knuckling it

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at November 05, 2013 04:33 PM (KL49F)

489
Accoridng to accompanying map, these result INCLUDE come of the northern liberal counties. Meanwhile, some rural conservatice counties have yet to be counted.

Those blue counties are more heavily populated, with more polling stations, and if the numbers continue trending the way they are, Mcauliffe is going to have a 50k vote lead in Fairfax county alone.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at November 05, 2013 04:33 PM (0IhFx)

490 Liberal paper endorsed rino losing to black dem in charlotte. No details.

Posted by: NCKate at November 05, 2013 04:33 PM (2VHEL)

491 correct Empire of Jeff and I were the RINOs.... Posted by: sven10077 at November 05, 2013 08:25 PM (9jfyN) Thank you. Conservatives are a minority in the Republican Party.

Posted by: Meremortal, Low Info Mofo at November 05, 2013 04:33 PM (1Y+hH)

492 Truth is Republicans need to get better at lying, like Obama, the dude is amazing at it.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at November 05, 2013 04:33 PM (b9K4P)

493 Watching the MFM sucking tiny, fat, Christie cock has been amazing.

If McLiar loses, it will be funzies for watch the MFM continue to carry Fat Man's water.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 05, 2013 04:33 PM (lVPtV)

494 >>>>>That is total fucking bullshit. If the National GOP wanted KC to win, or to put up a good fight, they NEVER, EVER would have allowed KC to get OUTSPENT 25 to 1. 1. GOP has 43M on hand and frankly I'd rather they throw that at Pryor/Landrieu/Begich et al than VA? Especially when the guy was trailing by 8 or 9 less than a week ago. 2. All the people who took their toys and went home after Romney lost are stunned that having left the party in dispirited fashion, the GOP has not raised more money than ever before in their absence.

Posted by: WAGOPinTX at November 05, 2013 04:33 PM (i2t2+)

495 My kids live in D.C. and I really wanted to move to Virginia. No way I am leaving Mass for another blue state.

Posted by: Sharon at November 05, 2013 04:33 PM (DtEq4)

496 Dagny !!!!

Posted by: mama winger at November 05, 2013 04:33 PM (P6QsQ)

497 Yeah, Jersey got indoor plumbing last year, everywhere but Newark.

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 05, 2013 08:29 PM (0FSuD)

Newark is latin for cesspool. Flush twice, its a long way to newark.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Div at November 05, 2013 04:34 PM (FMbng)

498 Oh. That's for mayor. My bad. Forgot that detail.

Posted by: NCKate at November 05, 2013 04:34 PM (2VHEL)

499 439 Back to the future, in a sense: the states that put Nixon over in 1968 were Ohio and (wait for it) New Jersey.

Posted by: the Count at November 05, 2013 04:34 PM (nLIMC)

500 433 if Cuccinelli loses by a very slim margin...just imagine what could have happened if the R-party actually sent some money his way....so who is screwing who?

Posted by: Kawfytawk at November 05, 2013 08:25 PM (EY4Et)

________________________________________________________________

Here's another mind blower for ya: What if there hadn't been a vanity gov't shutdown last month, which was the crux of McA's campaign down the stretch and early exit polls indicate may be driving the vote in No. Va?

Did Ted Cruz cost Cuccinelli the win?

Just fuckin with ya, bra. One should always blame the Establishment for any and all negative outcomes.

Posted by: CausticConservative at November 05, 2013 04:34 PM (gT3jF)

501 494 Dagny !!!!

Posted by: mama winger at November 05, 2013 08:33 PM (P6QsQ)

Jeebus, where!?!

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 05, 2013 04:35 PM (lVPtV)

502 Goddamn it. I'm feeling a little glimmer of hope here...but I know it's gonna get crushed really soon.

Posted by: Albie Damned at November 05, 2013 04:35 PM (Yhu4q)

503 484 Virginia has open primaries by law. The "will of the people" include many many democrats in the republican primary. I always vote in the dem primary. Posted by: dagny at November 05, 2013 08:32 PM (Wsv8z) DAGNY!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at November 05, 2013 04:35 PM (8JJ6O)

504 It was fraud that sunk Nixon,he knew it and wanted to fight was convinced to drop it " for the good of the country".

Posted by: steevy at November 05, 2013 04:35 PM (zqvg6)

505 484 Ms. D'Oh. And ma'am, I need an email for you. Need to talk to you.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 05, 2013 04:35 PM (GEICT)

506 162 >>>So I expect that to become the uneducated conventional wisdom. Easier than looking into the specific facts of a specific race. Strangely enough, conservatives who are intimately acquainted with every detail of this race, and know the political topography of Virginia extremely well, attribute Cuccinelli's loss to 1.) his self-sought social conservative brand being a noose statewide; 2.) crap campaign; 3.) terrible at fundraising because his so-con stances turned off typical VA GOP donor groups; 4.) shifting demographics. And they're unanimous about that, pretty much. Go read Ben Domenech's long write-up on why Cooch lost, he posted it today. Or is he now a liberal moby as well? Posted by: Jeff B. at November 05, 2013 07:38 PM (n/+FT) I know a lot of R's that were kind of put off that Cooch announced his candidacy 6 months into his term as AG. Everyone knows that the AG and Lt.Gov both have their sights on the Governor's Mansion, but fer christ's sake, at least wait until about 12-18 months out. Also, Bolling was a conservative, but he wasn't an aggressive conservative that Cuccinelli is. Bolling knew when to kind of back off before turning off the "middle", Cuccinelli doesn't seem to have that.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at November 05, 2013 04:36 PM (BXLPR)

507 Wow. Dagny.

Posted by: NCKate at November 05, 2013 04:36 PM (2VHEL)

508 Truth is Republicans need to get better at lying, like Obama, the dude is amazing at it. I don't know that the Republicans aren't good at lying...the issue is who they lie to...and why. Read my lips...I oppose Amnesty...etc...etc..

Posted by: 18-1 at November 05, 2013 04:36 PM (uUvS8)

509 484 Virginia has open primaries by law. The "will of the people" include many many democrats in the republican primary. I always vote in the dem primary.

Posted by: dagny at November 05, 2013 08:32 PM (Wsv8z)

DAGNY! {{{hugs}}}

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 05, 2013 04:36 PM (lVPtV)

510 489 meremortal,

exactly President McCain and President Romney agree

Posted by: sven10077 at November 05, 2013 04:36 PM (9jfyN)

511 I am very glad to see Dagny is back.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky wants to know definition of at November 05, 2013 04:36 PM (baL2B)

512 Those blue counties are more heavily populated, with more polling stations, and if the numbers continue trending the way they are, Mcauliffe is going to have a 50k vote lead in Fairfax county alone. Posted by: Sticky Wicket Ugh. I just did a "trend line" in my mind based on the figures over the last half hour, and unfortunately figured out that McC will pass Cucc at about 85%-90% of precincts reporting. Everything beyond that will be gravy for the Dems. That is, if the return trends continue as is. Repeat: Ugh.

Posted by: zombie at November 05, 2013 04:36 PM (+cx5n)

513 At least Cooch took Virginia Beach by 5% The only black person I saw voting was a 300 year old woman.

Posted by: VBJonny at November 05, 2013 04:36 PM (ai/YP)

514 >>>Here's another mind blower for ya: What if there hadn't been a vanity gov't shutdown last month, which was the crux of McA's campaign down the stretch and early exit polls indicate may be driving the vote in No. Va?Did Ted Cruz cost Cuccinelli the win?
Just fuckin with ya, bra. One should always blame the Establishment for any and all negative outcomes.

If this site allowed us to 'favorite' comments, I'd set up 30 different sockpuppet accounts just to keep rec'ing this one.

Posted by: Jeff B. at November 05, 2013 04:36 PM (n/+FT)

515 396
Ace:

Not sure what and where the pill has been proposed to be outlawed, but surely no conservative really goes after that.

It's bad that KC had such a position or at least the implication could be made. But did he actually say he would try to outlaw the pill, or is this just some bullshit implication by clever fucking leftists? Posted by: prescient11

The morning after pill is no different than any other commonly used form of pill-based contraceptives.

If you believe life begins at conception, these pills are abortion pills. So it's not a complete stretch.

It becomes a very slippery slope, and SoCons love to jump head first.

Posted by: Jeepers at November 05, 2013 04:36 PM (XDRsa)

516 I think we are beating a dead horse here. It is what it is. No sense whining about the results before the results. Just saying. The VA legislature is run by the GOP, McT can not get one bill passed. He can appoint dickheads, that's it.

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 05, 2013 04:36 PM (0FSuD)

517 >>>uccinelli has repeatedly said he is NOT remotely interested in banning birth control pills.
WHO is?

the bill he sponsored, defining life as beginning at fertilization, which he refused to modify to make it clear that the law would not apply to the inadvertent but statistically likely failures-to-implant of a fertilized egg due to the birth control pill, says so.

I swear to God, you guys insist on these no-exceptions policies and then when you're called on it all you do is say, "WHO wants THAT? Not MOI!!!!"

Well someone sure fucking wanted it because that's the way Cuccinelli wrote his fucking bill.

Posted by: ace at November 05, 2013 04:37 PM (/FnUH)

518 but they never, ever, ever prefer to see a GOP candidate lose rather than win.

except tea party candidates.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 05, 2013 04:37 PM (nKUHR)

519 Fairfax County - Possible Outcome 93909.68116 C 145083.3913 M 51173.71014 Mc Lead over C

Posted by: Kaitian at November 05, 2013 04:37 PM (AFTTf)

520 484 Dagny,

I'll join you.

Plan B it is....nominate the reddest democrat you can

Posted by: sven10077 at November 05, 2013 04:37 PM (9jfyN)

521 Ace, Cucc did not run a so-con warrior campaign. He just didn't. I personally am not a so-con. But I won't say something happened when it didn't. Cucc explicitly said he won't pass restrictions on birth control. He also explicitly said that, if elected, he will do nothing to challenge Roe v Wade. The data and the facts support what I'm saying. And the exit polls, so far, show Cucc underperforming among Virginia so-cons -- perhaps because he explicitly promised during the campaign not to challenge Roe v Wade. Maybe I'm seeing it wrong. But I've watched this race fairly closely. And the data and facts that I see show a man who did not campaign as a so-con warrior. Did he seek so-con support? Of course, they are an important part of the Repub Party. Every Republican seeks their support. But he campaigned mainly on jobs, taxes, and against Obamacare. He did not campaign as a so-con warrior. He tried to follow the McD model. But it doesn't appear to have worked.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 05, 2013 04:37 PM (ZPrif)

522 I left a year ago today. Posted by: mama winger Well, glad to have you, mama winger, the water's fine as you can feel. It's a reasonable place to await the final solution.

Posted by: Meremortal, Low Info Mofo at November 05, 2013 04:37 PM (1Y+hH)

523 This entire debate about how Cuccinelli's position would undo women's access to the pill is a canard. The Supreme Court long ago weighed in on this. States cannot inhibit a woman's access to birth control. Even if taking birth control away from women was the Cooch's top priority (and it's not even on the list of his priorities), he simply can't do it. The governor of Virginia has no such power. What Cuccinelli did in the debate over the pill was to point out a very simple and not widely understood fact. The pill is an abortifacient. There's no debate about that. It is. This has been understood from day one of the pill by the medical community, and proclaimed on high by Cuccinelli's own church (Roman Catholic). Cuccinelli simple defended his own position on this. Even still, the birth control issue is not the one that ultimately doomed Virginia's failed abortion control laws that mire Cooch today. No, what doomed it was the attempt to educate women who came in for abortions about the nature of what they were about to do. That effort involved what was deemed by the Dems to include an "invasive procedure". We apparently can't have that. Too invasive. Unlike, what? The abortion procedure that they came in for?

Posted by: Cowboy at November 05, 2013 04:37 PM (f73Jj)

524 And once again, the Democrat surges late. Same old story.

Posted by: Bill Mitchell at November 05, 2013 04:38 PM (+9xNn)

525 >>Here's another mind blower for ya: What if there hadn't been a vanity gov't shutdown last month, which was the crux of McA's campaign down the stretch and early exit polls indicate may be driving the vote in No. Va?Did Ted Cruz cost Cuccinelli the win? Shun the heretic!!

Posted by: JackStraw at November 05, 2013 04:38 PM (g1DWB)

526

Sven:

hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. Yeah, 42% of country identifies as conservative, but we are the minority in GOP.

Thank you, again, Ronald Reagan.

Posted by: prescient11 at November 05, 2013 04:38 PM (y8MBg)

527 Well, here we go...lead shrinking with hope.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky hates elections at November 05, 2013 04:38 PM (baL2B)

528 I moved from Washington State to South Carolina. First thing I'm doing in this Republican primary is voting against that idiot Graham.

Posted by: Kaitian at November 05, 2013 04:38 PM (AFTTf)

529 Hi, guys.

Posted by: dagny at November 05, 2013 04:38 PM (Wsv8z)

530 Holy crap. Welcome back dagny!

It's a new day
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dIay_31Fwk

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at November 05, 2013 04:38 PM (d7tB2)

531 Normally, I wouldn't care all that much about the election of another State's (or Commonwelth's :roll

Governor but I surely do hope, & think it important that Cucinelli wins. Not just for VA but for all of us.

Posted by: Deety at November 05, 2013 04:38 PM (DN2Ge)

532 492 >>>>>That is total fucking bullshit. If the National GOP wanted KC to win, or to put up a good fight, they NEVER, EVER would have allowed KC to get OUTSPENT 25 to 1.

1. GOP has 43M on hand and frankly I'd rather they throw that at Pryor/Landrieu/Begich et al than VA? Especially when the guy was trailing by 8 or 9 less than a week ago.

2. All the people who took their toys and went home after Romney lost are stunned that having left the party in dispirited fashion, the GOP has not raised more money than ever before in their absence.

Posted by: WAGOPinTX at November 05, 2013 08:33 PM (i2t2+)

______________________________________________________________

This is another thing I don't get. Can't have it both ways.

Posted by: CausticConservative at November 05, 2013 04:39 PM (gT3jF)

533 503 484 Ms. D'Oh.

And ma'am, I need an email for you. Need to talk to you.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 05, 2013 08:35 PM (GEICT)

I thought you had mine? My e-mail is my name, therefore ask EC or Tami or Nevergiveup. (Nevergiveup and I were just talking.)

Look forward to hearing from you.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 05, 2013 04:39 PM (lVPtV)

534 zombie said: "That is, if the return trends continue as is"

Yeah, and they won't.

It'll go really non-linear once the.. ahem... "urban" and "elite, smart-reading glasses" communities come in.

Posted by: Uriah Heep at November 05, 2013 04:39 PM (jhI6f)

535 >>>It's
bad that KC had such a position or at least the implication could be
made. But did he actually say he would try to outlaw the pill, or is
this just some bullshit implication by clever fucking leftists?

running for governor, he says he has no interest in banning the pill.

But when he wrote that bill, he was warned about this implication of it (which is a fair one-- the scientists are not making this up), and declined to rewrite it to avoid this implication.

He wanted to be on record as being hard-core, no-exceptions (even for the pill!) pro-life.

Well congratulations-- he achieved that.

Posted by: ace at November 05, 2013 04:39 PM (/FnUH)

536 FUCKIN' DAGNEY!!!!

Who's Dagney?

Posted by: Insecure phoney at November 05, 2013 04:39 PM (b9Dx5)

537 516 but they never, ever, ever prefer to see a GOP candidate lose rather than win.

except tea party candidates.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 05, 2013 08:37 PM (nKUHR)

Not the same.

Posted by: tangonine at November 05, 2013 04:39 PM (x3YFz)

538 527 Hi, guys.

Posted by: dagny at November 05, 2013 08:38 PM (Wsv8z)

It's about time, bitch.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 05, 2013 04:40 PM (lVPtV)

539 OT these PS4 commercials are annoying as hell.Who wants to hear bad singing of a lame song?

Posted by: steevy at November 05, 2013 04:40 PM (zqvg6)

540 >>>Cucc repeatedly said he would pass no laws restricting birth control. He had to repeatedly say that because of the very effective smear campaign that claimed he wanted to ban birth control pills.

well then he shouldn't have fucking written that bill to just show off to his Pro Life friends if he had no real desire to do what his bill suggested.

Posted by: ace at November 05, 2013 04:40 PM (/FnUH)

541 524 Prescient,

well Ogabe is a "conservative" ask uh Joe Scardouche

Posted by: sven10077 at November 05, 2013 04:40 PM (9jfyN)

542 536 527 Hi, guys. Posted by: dagny at November 05, 2013 08:38 PM (Wsv8z) It's about time, bitch. Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 05, 2013 08:40 PM (lVPtV) ah.....my two favorite 'ettes

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at November 05, 2013 04:40 PM (8JJ6O)

543 Here's another mind blower for ya: What if there hadn't been a vanity
gov't shutdown last month, which was the crux of McA's campaign down the
stretch and early exit polls indicate may be driving the vote in No.
Va?Did Ted Cruz cost Cuccinelli the win

I bet you don't float either! Burn this witch before others hear his comments!

Posted by: Uriah Heep at November 05, 2013 04:40 PM (jhI6f)

544 @471 BlackOrchid Sorry to hear that. You are not alone. Not saying that abstractly.

Posted by: Beagle at November 05, 2013 04:40 PM (sOtz/)

545 Are you the real Dagny?

Posted by: Dept. Of Acuracy at November 05, 2013 04:40 PM (MhA4j)

546 So Dagny comes back. It's good to have a least one Dukie on the blog.

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 05, 2013 04:41 PM (0FSuD)

547 Feelings the same here about North Carolina. Do they have indoor plumbing and shit, yet? ;-) Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy ---------------- No. You should stay far away.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 05, 2013 04:41 PM (aDwsi)

548 One thing I've noticed is the libertarian number is going down in percentage.

Posted by: Kaitian at November 05, 2013 04:41 PM (AFTTf)

549 Hi, guys.

Posted by: dagny at November 05, 2013 08:38 PM (Wsv8z)

---------------

Back atcha, sweetheart. God bless ya, how are you?

Posted by: mama winger at November 05, 2013 04:41 PM (P6QsQ)

550 540 536 527 Hi, guys. Posted by: dagny at November 05, 2013 08:38 PM (Wsv8z) It's about time, bitch. Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 05, 2013 08:40 PM (lVPtV) ah.....my two favorite 'ettes Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at November 05, 2013 08:40 PM (8JJ6O) You girls take your bras off an relax!

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 05, 2013 04:41 PM (0FSuD)

551 All the RINOs and LIVs are my enemy. No more mr. nice guy.

That is all.

Posted by: tangonine at November 05, 2013 04:41 PM (x3YFz)

552 Posted by: mama winger at November 05, 2013 08:41 PM (P6QsQ) 3 favorite 'ettes

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at November 05, 2013 04:42 PM (8JJ6O)

553 391 --- HOWEVER, a mere 3-4% loss is something I'll happily take, as it means that Obenshain looks good to eke out a win over Herring for AG. Posted by: Jeff B. at November 05, 2013 08:19 PM (n/+FT) ------------ Yes. In any event, if it's less than 5%, it represents a huge narrowing of the gap in the last couple of weeks. I have to believe that reflects the discontent about Obamacare. (Of course I also share your hope that Obenchain can eke out a win.)

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 05, 2013 04:42 PM (dfYL9)

554 I reckon there's still a trampoline in here

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at November 05, 2013 04:42 PM (d7tB2)

555 I thought you had mine? My e-mail is my name, therefore ask EC or Tami or Nevergiveup. (Nevergiveup and I were just talking.) Look forward to hearing from you. Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 05, 2013 08:39 PM (lVPtV) I might have at one point. I'll give you a shout in a bit.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 05, 2013 04:42 PM (GEICT)

556 CNN now says 61% reporting Ken Cuccinelli 48% Terry McAuliffe 45% Robert Sarvis 7% The trend is accelerating, as predicted by others above.

Posted by: zombie at November 05, 2013 04:43 PM (+cx5n)

557 Posted by: CausticConservative at November 05, 2013 08:34 PM (gT3jF) Here is where I stand....I am sick to F-in death of the entire lot of establishment politicians no matter their stripe. I am sick to death of cabinet members and heads of agencies looking down their collective noses at me and flipping me the bird as they tell me they can do as they please. Ted Cruz is a breath of fresh air to me. Is he perfect...likely not.....but I cannot tell you how much I would love to fumigate all those cock roaches out of there...R's D's I's.....all of them They are so damn emboldened I honestly believe they would commit murder on video in full color and laugh it off and tell me that *I* am the one that's insane. It is utter madness

Posted by: Kawfytawk at November 05, 2013 04:43 PM (EY4Et)

558 Why do they say Blasio is beginning new era of liberlaism? What the fuck was Bloomberg? And before that Dinkens and Koch?

Posted by: Jesse Pinkman, PhD Bitches! at November 05, 2013 04:43 PM (mpTrn)

559 You girls take your bras off an relax!

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 05, 2013 08:41 PM (0FSuD)

Who's wearing a bra? *lifts titties and hefts them at Horde*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 05, 2013 04:43 PM (lVPtV)

560 If Terry wins, he better win beyond the number of votes that phony plant Sarvis gets. If Sarvis costs the Rs a win with his disingenuous run Cucinelli should give a bitter concession speech about Virginia being lied to and tricked and how Sarvis was an Obama plant. If Terry wins, I hope he wins big...not by the margin of Sarvis. I'll probably break my PC screen otherwise.

Posted by: JDW at November 05, 2013 04:43 PM (UEoQu)

561 One thing I've noticed is the ~~libertarian~~ DNC Plant's number is going down in percentage. Posted by: Kaitian at November 05, 2013 08:41 PM

Posted by: Dept. Of Acuracy at November 05, 2013 04:43 PM (MhA4j)

562

Boo hoo. You wonder why the guy is suffering in the polls when he doesn't even get any national support.

Fuck you establishment GOP, fuck you.

Not one good answer has been given to this question.

Posted by: prescient11 at November 05, 2013 04:43 PM (y8MBg)

563 Ace once again congrats on buying into the leftist spin. The law was the same as the GOP platform in 2012. You are saying Republicans can't run on their own platform. If what he supported was as damning as all that, McAullife and the Dems wouldn't have to lie about it. Kinda like the Obama stuff. If they told the truth, it wouldn't be as easy to sell.

Posted by: blaster at November 05, 2013 04:43 PM (4+AaH)

564 That is all. Posted by: tangonine at November 05, 2013 08:41 PM (x3YFz) But is it what is best in life?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 05, 2013 04:43 PM (GEICT)

565

ace at November 05, 2013 08:22 PM (/FnUH)

Thank you Ace.

You know, despite what Rush says, leftists love the label "liberal". It gives them the perceived mantle of liberty among the LIVs. We win when we reverse that perception, and cultural nannyism has destroyed our case.

Posted by: burmatar at November 05, 2013 04:43 PM (G/XBU)

566 Ohh I know he's a plant. However I wish Ron Paul had gotten in sooner than he did to denounce the plant.

Posted by: Kaitian at November 05, 2013 04:44 PM (AFTTf)

567 And once again, the Democrat surges late. Same old story. Posted by: Bill Mitchell ------------------------ It takes a while to get those ballots out of the trunk of the car...

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 05, 2013 04:44 PM (aDwsi)

568 My prediction: McAu gets drunk, gets behind the wheel, and dies in a firey crash.

Posted by: Jesse Pinkman, PhD Bitches! at November 05, 2013 04:44 PM (mpTrn)

569 Ken Cuccinelli 48% Terry McAuliffe 45%

What the margin of fraud in this race? Gotta be upwards of 5 points, right?

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at November 05, 2013 04:44 PM (fZ2Zr)

570

did I read it wrong or is there still a republican AG in VA?

pool on when McAuliffe gets indicted

I chose October 2014

Posted by: thunderb at November 05, 2013 04:44 PM (zOTsN)

571 544 So Dagny comes back. It's good to have a least one Dukie on the blog.

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 05, 2013 08:41 PM (0FSuD)

ack. Do not remind me of this during basketball season. Coach K is my Pavlov' dog of rage.

Totally not related (except personal rage trigger) but I noticed Baroque's facial mole really is getting a lot bigger, as are all the mole things on his stupid face. I think it is growing with the lies.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky hates elections at November 05, 2013 04:44 PM (baL2B)

572 557 You girls take your bras off an relax! Posted by: Nip Sip at November 05, 2013 08:41 PM (0FSuD) Who's wearing a bra? *lifts titties and hefts them at Horde* Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 05, 2013 08:43 PM (lVPtV) MOM!!!

Posted by: D'oh Boy at November 05, 2013 04:44 PM (doBIb)

573 NRO is loading slowly and twitter is stuck. I thought I'd drop by. I spent all day wheeling ancient republicans to the polls at my mother's retirement resort.

Cuccinelli was outspent dramatically. He could have won with 1. More money and 2. Fighting back nastier---we're going to have to get these guys to pull out the stops like the dems do. Also, if you care to, there are a few precincts in Nova: Lorton, and Cora Kelly in Alexandria who will "mop up" the vote around 3 am.

Posted by: dagny at November 05, 2013 04:45 PM (Wsv8z)

574 I might have at one point. I'll give you a shout in a bit.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 05, 2013 08:42 PM (GEICT)

Yeah, I'm pretty sure you've e-mailed me. I've got you in my contact list, but don't have your actual name.

I think. (I have a fever, and that's my excuse!)

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 05, 2013 04:45 PM (lVPtV)

575 I'm calling the New York mayoral race for DeBlasio, based on "New Yorkers are fucking stupid."

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at November 05, 2013 04:45 PM (JDIKC)

576 Truth is Republicans need to get better at lying, like Obama, the dude is amazing at it

Republicans are just fine at lying. Republican politicians do it all the time to shut up and placate the conservatives.

They just don't (and won't) have the MSM to cover up, obscure and obfuscate their lies when they go into the mass population with them as the democrats do.

Posted by: Uriah Heep at November 05, 2013 04:45 PM (jhI6f)

577 562 That is all.

Posted by: tangonine at November 05, 2013 08:41 PM (x3YFz)

But is it what is best in life?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 05, 2013 08:43 PM (GEICT)

yes.

Posted by: tangonine at November 05, 2013 04:45 PM (x3YFz)

578 It takes a while to get those ballots out of the trunk of the car... Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 05, 2013 08:44 PM (aDwsi) ---- Dead voters vote last. Always.

Posted by: fixerupper at November 05, 2013 04:45 PM (IrLKP)

579 I've posted too much about the attacks by design of the epa against the US economy.

So Con issues are #6 or #7 on my list....

the GOP brays about "the economy" and jobs but never attacks the chokes the donks put on US growth.

Now the "war on tampons" is a serious thing?

Posted by: sven10077 at November 05, 2013 04:45 PM (9jfyN)

580 2. All the people who took their toys and went home after Romney lost are stunned that having left the party in dispirited fashion, the GOP has not raised more money than ever before in their absence. I'm not stunned one bit. Pretty sure everyone else who packed up and left the GOP isn't stunned. The GOP should be the ones who are stunned, but they aren't.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at November 05, 2013 04:45 PM (ObHhj)

581 But wait! NOW CNN says this: 68% reporting Ken Cuccinelli 48% Terry McAuliffe 45% Robert Sarvis 7% Seven more percentage points of results have come in - WITH NO CHANGE! Whaa------???

Posted by: zombie at November 05, 2013 04:46 PM (+cx5n)

582 >>>>>Boo hoo. You wonder why the guy is suffering in the polls when he doesn't even get any national support. Fuck you establishment GOP, fuck you. Not one good answer has been given to this question. You didn't see my response or you're willfully rejecting it. Reposted for your convenience below: "1. GOP has 43M on hand and frankly I'd rather they throw that at Pryor/Landrieu/Begich et al than VA? Especially when the guy was trailing by 8 or 9 less than a week ago. 2. All the people who took their toys and went home after Romney lost are stunned that having left the party in dispirited fashion, the GOP has not raised more money than ever before in their absence."

Posted by: WAGOPinTX at November 05, 2013 04:46 PM (i2t2+)

583 @521 Griswold v. Conn, 1964.

Posted by: Beagle at November 05, 2013 04:46 PM (sOtz/)

584 42% of country identifies as conservative, but we are the minority in GOP. Thank you, again, Ronald Reagan. Posted by: prescient11 When explored in detail, many self-identifed 'cons' share few positions with conservatives, and share far too many with the left.

Posted by: Meremortal, Low Info Mofo at November 05, 2013 04:46 PM (1Y+hH)

585 MOM!!!

Posted by: D'oh Boy at November 05, 2013 08:44 PM (doBIb)

LOL! (He would seriously kill you with his bare hands right now.)

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 05, 2013 04:46 PM (lVPtV)

586 53k lead with 63% in? That seems like a lot to me.

Posted by: Bill Mitchell at November 05, 2013 04:46 PM (+9xNn)

587 But is it what is best in life? Posted by: BCochran1981 -------------------------------- If that's all there is my friend, Then let's keep dancing, Let's break out the booze...

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 05, 2013 04:46 PM (aDwsi)

588 573 empire of Jeff,

California also in play

Posted by: sven10077 at November 05, 2013 04:46 PM (9jfyN)

589 573 I'm calling the New York mayoral race for DeBlasio, based on "New Yorkers are fucking stupid." Posted by: Empire of Jeff at November 05, 2013 08:45 PM (JDIKC) I was going to add something to that, but I can't. That pretty much fucking covers it.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 05, 2013 04:47 PM (GEICT)

590 I know precinct count isn't population count, but still: 4% lead with two-thirds of precincts counted? That seems like a fairly significant lead, no?

Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 05, 2013 04:47 PM (kqGWM)

591 And tmac is one hundred percent lockstep social liberal,basically socialist,and there is zero pushback? But cooch is too extreme ? Then is over

Posted by: j44 at November 05, 2013 04:47 PM (4GMZA)

592 547 Sent a kid to college that I miss, not so much the other one, husband was on the 4th floor of bldg 197 at the Navy Yard. Was missed, according to the tapes by 56 seconds. Still dealing with that as he's writing the report. That's abt it.

Oh, and I hate that McAuliffe POS with a livid passion. But I hated Kaine too, so, meh.

Posted by: dagny at November 05, 2013 04:47 PM (Wsv8z)

593 How many precincts in NoVA have > 100% turnout?

anyone want to start a pool?

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at November 05, 2013 04:47 PM (fZ2Zr)

594 Ace is totes right about Cooch and his views on abortion, the pill, sodomy... Not all conservatives are hardcore SoCons. I don't care what he "ran" on. he's made his positions clear. What politician has ever followed through on his campaign promises? I'm just going to make a bourbon/coke, light the last Montecristo I just found in the humidor, and wait for the final results. If anyone wants to join me, I'll be out back by the burn barrel. (I saw a Cohiba in there)

Posted by: shredded chi at November 05, 2013 04:47 PM (0IDyD)

595 Like it or not, there are a large number of women ( and possibly men) that consider it repugnant that so cons want to tell a woman what to do w her body. Even if most women probably agree w limits on abortions, the first trimester is still a time frame that a majority o women, imo, consider none of the rest of the world's business.

Posted by: NeverEvermore at November 05, 2013 04:47 PM (dd5lM)

596

You can't keep fucking with people- attempting to fuck with their liberty- and not expect to suffer consequences.

posted by Ace

Uh, hate to brake it to you bud, but the democrats fuck with peoples liberty every damn day and they hardly ever suffer consequences due to the media and their control of the narrative. You've swallowed quite a few of those lies over the last 20-30 years I would bet..... and you show it once in a while with your "all republicans are out to steal birth control from the people!" posts.

Posted by: Some Guy in Wisconsin at November 05, 2013 04:47 PM (D/wbi)

597 I spent all day wheeling ancient republicans to the polls at my mother's retirement resort. -

Posted by: dagny at November 05, 2013 08:45 PM (Wsv8z)

-----------

subvertin' and agitatin'.

same old dagny.

Posted by: mama winger at November 05, 2013 04:47 PM (P6QsQ)

598 >>>>>I'm not stunned one bit. Pretty sure everyone else who packed up and left the GOP isn't stunned. The GOP should be the ones who are stunned, but they aren't. Not sure what you're getting at.

Posted by: WAGOPinTX at November 05, 2013 04:48 PM (i2t2+)

599 CAC,
Cucc beat McAuluiffe by by 7.8% in Chesterfield County. Romney beat Obama by 7.6% abd he didn't have a Libertarian taking 9.6% of the vote there. I'm sorry. I just don't get how you call the state based on these results. McAuliffe is a full 8% behind his running mate for LT. Gov statewide. He probably will catch Cucc but it's going to be by the skin of his teeth here. This was not early call worthy.

Posted by: Rocks at November 05, 2013 04:48 PM (vR0sZ)

600 582 meremortal,

I concur, best of luck running leftward to the 'true cons'...

Posted by: sven10077 at November 05, 2013 04:48 PM (9jfyN)

601 the bill he sponsored, defining life as beginning at fertilization, which he refused to modify to make it clear that the law would not apply to the inadvertent but statistically likely failures-to-implant of a fertilized egg due to the birth control pill, says so.

I swear to God, you guys insist on these no-exceptions policies and then when you're called on it all you do is say, "WHO wants THAT? Not MOI!!!!"

Well someone sure fucking wanted it because that's the way Cuccinelli wrote his fucking bill.

Posted by: ace

+100000

They talk out of both side of their mouth, then blame Democrats for bringing the issue up. Do you want a Culture War or not? Because that's the type of candidates you keep pushing, so you better be prepared to talk about it.

I also love the "it's Establishment Republicans fault" After TruCons calling anyone who doesn't have this ridiculously strident abortion position is a "baby killer" in the primary, they then wonder why they won't write checks and kiss their ass.

I thought you didn't need the Establishment/RINO wing? I though "moderates" in the GOP were why we were losing elections?

Well, here was your grand SoCon/TruCon experiment, against a Democrat crook no less AND with a President that has a thirty-something percent approval rating and a domestic agenda that's crumbling before the nation's eyes.

And you got your teeth kicked in.

Now leave.

Posted by: Jeepers at November 05, 2013 04:48 PM (XDRsa)

602 Dear Emperor of Jeff, please kill this Bill Mitchell person. xoxo

Posted by: ChristyBlinky hates elections at November 05, 2013 04:48 PM (baL2B)

603 FYI - CNN's reported results in Va. are running a bit more complete, and more favorable, than the Secy. of State's website. Hoping...

Posted by: the Count at November 05, 2013 04:48 PM (nLIMC)

604 "Here's another mind blower for ya: What if there hadn't been a vanity gov't shutdown last month, which was the crux of McA's campaign down the stretch and early exit polls indicate may be driving the vote in No. Va?Did Ted Cruz cost Cuccinelli the win?"

That Boehner is a RINO coward!!!! ... for not telling Cruz to zip it.

Posted by: Shoot Me at November 05, 2013 04:48 PM (qiXMt)

605
I guess we won't actually ever for sure know, but I would say a Cucc loss is because VA is a fed suckling. Too many people there paid by the govt for GOP to win major races. Individual state reps, sure, but Guv and Fed offices are going to get increasingly tough. and it will have zip to do with vag politics.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 05, 2013 04:48 PM (nKUHR)

606 Look the last polls in VA were +7 for the Dems. Anything better than that will still have a "moral victory" aftertaste -- it'll be obvious that on his own, Cuccinelli would have done much worse, but Obama and ACA dragged his opponent down. Personally, I don't care too much who is the governor of VA, but if the vote demonstrates that Obama is a toxin, then I'm happy.

Posted by: zombie at November 05, 2013 04:49 PM (+cx5n)

607 Again,I was a New Yorker for 39 years,I'm as conservative as any of you and believe it or not,there are plenty more conservatives there.

Posted by: steevy at November 05, 2013 04:49 PM (zqvg6)

608 534 FUCKIN' DAGNEY!!!! Who's Dagney? Posted by: Insecure phoney at November 05, 2013 08:39 PM (b9Dx5) A tranny hobo's wife that ace use to date in another life. Oh, shit I can come up with something better than that. Coach K's illegitimate love child who was forced to marry a lawyer? I am thinking, I am thinking.

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 05, 2013 04:49 PM (0FSuD)

609

2. All the people who took their toys and went home after Romney lost are stunned that having left the party in dispirited fashion, the GOP has not raised more money than ever before in their absence.

I'm not stunned one bit. Pretty sure everyone else who packed up and left the GOP isn't stunned.

The GOP should be the ones who are stunned, but they aren't.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at November 05, 2013 08:45 PM (ObHhj)

------------------------

Instead of "stunned", they've decided to roll with "snooty."

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at November 05, 2013 04:49 PM (JDIKC)

610 I'm going to piss on John McCain's grave first chance I get.

Posted by: tangonine at November 05, 2013 04:49 PM (x3YFz)

611 578 2. All the people who took their toys and went home after Romney lost are stunned that having left the party in dispirited fashion, the GOP has not raised more money than ever before in their absence.

I'm not stunned one bit. Pretty sure everyone else who packed up and left the GOP isn't stunned.

The GOP should be the ones who are stunned, but they aren't.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at November 05, 2013 08:45 PM (ObHhj)

(I think he meant stunned that candidates of their preference are not given preferential funding by the Party they so loudly left, stomping their feet and slamming the door.)

Posted by: CausticConservative at November 05, 2013 04:49 PM (gT3jF)

612 Kaitian said: 'One thing I've noticed is the libertarian number is going down in percentage".

It will. The Libertarian took votes disproportionately from Republican counties; Republican counties are disproportionally rural and dispersed; Republican counties disproportionately report early.

The percentage will decrease as we move to a higher percentage of urban (read: democrat) counties later in the night.

Mission Success to Team Clinton.

Posted by: Uriah Heep at November 05, 2013 04:49 PM (jhI6f)

613 'Cultural warrior' is not the right fit for Virginia. Banning birth control pills is a terrible idea. If you don't want women using abortions as a means of birth control, makes no sense to ban the Pill (most practical solution to a moral dilemma). Also, the government shutdown didn't help KC.

Posted by: Kiana at November 05, 2013 04:49 PM (w41GQ)

614 590 547 Sent a kid to college that I miss, not so much the other one, husband was on the 4th floor of bldg 197 at the Navy Yard. Was missed, according to the tapes by 56 seconds. Still dealing with that as he's writing the report. That's abt it.

Oh, and I hate that McAuliffe POS with a livid passion. But I hated Kaine too, so, meh.

Posted by: dagny at November 05, 2013 08:47 PM (Wsv8z)

Well, thank God you're all okay. Damn, we've missed you.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 05, 2013 04:49 PM (lVPtV)

615 It would be odd if a Repub was said to have run a "2nd amendment warrior" campaign and then under-performed among NRA members and gun-owners. All while explicitly saying that he'll pass no laws to overturn restrictions on firearms within his state while governor. The "pro-gun warrior" campaign that explicitly says he'll do nothing to change or expand gun rights laws while in office. That seems to be what's happened in VA with Cucc. His opponents clearly saw him as a "so-con warrior". His supporters don't seem to have. His opponents took all those pledges not to challenge Roe v Wade as just so-con lies. His supporters appear to have believed him. His opponents believed the massive Dem ad campaign saying he was an extremist so-con. His supporters don't seem to have believed that ad campaign and instead believed what Cucc actually said he would do.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 05, 2013 04:49 PM (ZPrif)

616

the most populous districts report last, takes longer to count

Posted by: thunderb at November 05, 2013 04:49 PM (zOTsN)

617 So, if you believe that life begins at conception, then there is no place for you in the Republican Party. Got it.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz. at November 05, 2013 04:50 PM (HcoQw)

618 husband was on the 4th floor of bldg 197 at the Navy Yard. Was missed, according to the tapes by 56 seconds. Still dealing with that as he's writing the report. That's abt it.

--------------

Oh dear God, dagny.

Posted by: mama winger at November 05, 2013 04:50 PM (P6QsQ)

619 Here's another mind blower for ya: What if there hadn't been a vanity gov't shutdown last month, which was the crux of McA's campaign down the stretch and early exit polls indicate may be driving the vote in No. Va?Did Ted Cruz cost Cuccinelli the win? Shun the heretic!! ---------- Really wanna try that horse shit? So KC, getting killed in the polls, finally makes a comeback after the Ted Cruz led shut-down, and from that you take that had Cruz not acted the way he did, KC would have actually made even more of a comeback? REALLY?!

Posted by: Rich at November 05, 2013 04:50 PM (3nUrQ)

620 Fairfax County - Possible Outcome 98015.01163 C 151061.8953 M 53046.88372 Mc Lead over C 1873.173581 Increase/Decrease

Posted by: Kaitian at November 05, 2013 04:50 PM (AFTTf)

621 You know, I spend pretty much every day at some level of pissed off. What I believe in is pretty constantly shit upon, mostly by the Left but by some on "my side" as well. The things about this country I love, are denigrated and destroyed. I worry about what I'll leave for my children and grandchildren. That frustration and anger and fear and resentment just keep building and building. The Horde needs to organize a hunting trip. We need to kill something and eat it and drink beer and just engage in some good old fashioned back to nature fellowship. Otherwise, I'm going to get really angry. And you wouldn't like me when I'm angry.....

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 05, 2013 04:50 PM (GEICT)

622 591 Purp,

that's just because they REALLY care....

Posted by: sven10077 at November 05, 2013 04:50 PM (9jfyN)

623 How many precincts in NoVA have > 100% turnout? anyone want to start a pool? Posted by: Purp --------------- Tie breaker - How many go 100% for McAuluiffe

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 05, 2013 04:51 PM (aDwsi)

624 CNN now says: 70% reporting -- yet race UNCHANGED! Still 48-45. Clinging to hope with my fingernails.

Posted by: zombie at November 05, 2013 04:51 PM (+cx5n)

625 608 I'm going to piss on John McCain's grave first chance I get. Posted by: tangonine at November 05, 2013 08:49 PM (x3YFz) You'll have to get in line.

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 05, 2013 04:51 PM (0FSuD)

626 The Horde needs to organize a hunting trip. We need to kill something and eat it and drink beer and just engage in some good old fashioned back to nature fellowship.

Otherwise, I'm going to get really angry. And you wouldn't like me when I'm angry.....

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 05, 2013 08:50 PM (GEICT)

^^ This

Posted by: tangonine at November 05, 2013 04:51 PM (x3YFz)

627 . All the people who took their toys and went home after Romney lost are stunned that having left the party in dispirited fashion, the GOP has not raised more money than ever before in their absence. ------- Maybe it should be a sign to change course then? Maybe? Or you can keep up with this "smarter than you" attitude and see how that works. We'll come flocking back in droves.

Posted by: Rich at November 05, 2013 04:51 PM (3nUrQ)

628 And welcome back dagny. Glad to see you poking your head out the the troll infested NRO comments section.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at November 05, 2013 04:51 PM (ObHhj)

629 606 534 FUCKIN' DAGNEY!!!!

Who's Dagney?

Posted by: Insecure phoney at November 05, 2013 08:39 PM (b9Dx5)

A tranny hobo's wife that ace use to date in another life.

Speaking of trannies, we helped feed and clothe the homeless on Sunday in Savannah.

It wouldn't be Savannah without at least one trannie, wearing a dress and pearls, to show up.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 05, 2013 04:52 PM (lVPtV)

630 >>>
The law was the same as the GOP platform in 2012.

You are saying Republicans can't run on their own platform.

If what he supported was as damning as all that, McAullife and the Dems wouldn't have to lie about it.

..

they're not lying. He wrote the bill, it means what it means, it has the implication that has been attached to it, he was warned it had that implcation, he decided not to alter it to allay those concerns.

It's on him.

As for "running on a platform" -- a platform is not a bill. A platform is not actually a threat to be policy as a bill is.

if you think it's a good idea for a republican presidential candidate to write a bill stating life begins at fertilization, without any caveat that it shall not be deemed to apply to conventional birth control pills, have a fucking party, dude.

Just be Slim Whitman riding that atomic bomb down to Mother Russia, whoopin' it up, wavin' your hat.

Do you ever talk to anyone who is not intensely pro-life or anti-birth-control?

Pro life is one thing, but presuming to now be so full of Righteous Nannying Truth that you're going to start fucking with people's birth control pills is quite another.

But whatever, the Redder the Better, right?

Posted by: ace at November 05, 2013 04:52 PM (/FnUH)

631 615 herr morgenholz,

well it does ease my former efforts at flipping Catholics.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 05, 2013 04:52 PM (9jfyN)

632 Did Ted Cruz cost Cuccinelli the win? Could have. I just ran into a Customer who is PISSED that my Cable Co. didn't entirely waive his fees for the month of October while he was on fulough. He thinks that it is crappy customer care. Apparently, he thought that a partial Government Shutdown should entail an entire freezing of ALL markets and ALL commerce & I dunno, shut down the supermarkets so that furloughed workers get to "shop" for free, picking over the wilted greens at the local Albertsons? I still sold him a better package but Hrrmph! Guys with his attitude must be thick as theives in NoVa. He lives on a Golf Course, BTW.

Posted by: Deety at November 05, 2013 04:52 PM (DN2Ge)

633 Posted by: ace at November 05, 2013 08:29 PM (/FnUH)

Conventions represent the will of the people, too.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at November 05, 2013 04:52 PM (KL49F)

634 You know, I spend pretty much every day at some level of pissed off. --------------------------- It's wearying.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 05, 2013 04:52 PM (aDwsi)

635 Now leave.

Posted by: Jeepers at November 05, 2013 08:48 PM (XDRsa)

------

I did. I hope this eases your angst.

Posted by: mama winger at November 05, 2013 04:52 PM (P6QsQ)

636 623 608 I'm going to piss on John McCain's grave first chance I get.

Posted by: tangonine at November 05, 2013 08:49 PM (x3YFz)

You'll have to get in line.

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 05, 2013 08:51 PM (0FSuD)

Oh, I've already got it planned out. You know it'll be at Arlington. So it'll look like a bottle of Gatorade.

Posted by: tangonine at November 05, 2013 04:53 PM (x3YFz)

637 615 So, if you believe that life begins at conception, then there is no place for you in the Republican Party.

Got it. Posted by: Herr Morgenholz

If you want to ban birth control pills, then yes, there's no place for you.
If you want to hold that position as a personal morality issue, then no.

How hard is that?

Posted by: Jeepers at November 05, 2013 04:53 PM (XDRsa)

638 The sodomy thing was bullshit. Cucc was using the law to charge a 49 year old dirtbag who demanded oral sex from minor girls who were over the age of consent and then, if they refused or reported, he accused them of rape--she removed my XX from my pants, etc. Texas v Lawrence covered consenting adults and these girls were neither consenting or adult. He used the state anti-sodomy law that still covered the under age to charge him.

The gay lobby freaked, I suppose because they didn't like 15-17 year olds left out of the mix? I don't know, but they have been screeching ever since about the right to sodomy. Even the courts didn't support their own state law, but it did give the far left more leverage.

Posted by: dagny at November 05, 2013 04:53 PM (Wsv8z)

639 Drudge as of 30 seconds ago: 71% reporting, race now 48.1% Cucc 45.0 McC Trending back toward Cucc???????????????????????????????????????????

Posted by: zombie at November 05, 2013 04:53 PM (+cx5n)

640 The reality is far different.

The reason we lose is not because of so-cons.

We lose because up and down the line up, the Dems are more ALIKE with few variances on issues as a group and even when they are not they do not back stab and blame themselves at least publicly and team play.

Mostly RINOs do not do this, and there is a split in messaging over many opposing and also several GOPers backing abortion rights, just as the Marge Hoovers and SE Cupp's back gay marriage while several do not among the rest of the Repubs while DEMS are 100% united in their position and it's the SAME ONE.

They also do not back away from social issues at the first sign of trouble in fear, because they stick to their guns.

Only the so-cons who are also fi-cons are full spectrum cons.

It's not about abortion or any other social issue, it's determination and unified messaging. The same error lost for us in the shutdown when RINOS appeared on Maddow and CNN and back-talked Cruz, while the other guys were united.

The same error lost the filibuster over O'care when initially drafted. The same blunder allowed it on the floor due to Olympia Snowe refusing to stop it from reaching the floor.

Red state Dems, contra-wise, when it counts, stick with Pelosi on big issues.

Blaming Cooch is only playing into more of this division.

Posted by: Mehow at November 05, 2013 04:53 PM (4f3fs)

641 Like it or not, there are a large number of women ( and possibly men) that consider it repugnant that so cons want to tell a woman what to do w her body. Posted by: NeverEvermore at November 05, 2013 08:47 PM (dd5lM) well we won't have to worry about that since Obamacare will tell EVERYONE what they can do with their bodies.

Posted by: Kawfytawk at November 05, 2013 04:53 PM (EY4Et)

642 624 The Horde needs to organize a hunting trip. We need
to kill something and eat it and drink beer and just engage in some good
old fashioned back to nature fellowship.

Otherwise, I'm going to get really angry. And you wouldn't like me when I'm angry.....

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 05, 2013 08:50 PM (GEICT)

^^ This

Posted by: tangonine at November 05, 2013 08:51 PM (x3YFz)

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Too bad my husband's cousin sold his hunting compound in the SC low country a couple of months ago.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 05, 2013 04:53 PM (lVPtV)

643 It wouldn't be Savannah without at least one trannie, wearing a dress and pearls, to show up. Posted by: Jane D'oh --------------- Garden of evil, and all that...

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 05, 2013 04:54 PM (aDwsi)

644 Fairfax County - Possible Outcome 98332.05505 C 152780.2018 M 54448.14679 Mc Lead over C 1401.263069 Increase/Decrease Fairfax County keeps getting bigger and bigger for McAsshole.

Posted by: Kaitian at November 05, 2013 04:54 PM (AFTTf)

645 Too bad my husband's cousin sold his hunting compound in the SC low country a couple of months ago. Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 05, 2013 08:53 PM (lVPtV) ASSHOLE.

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 05, 2013 04:54 PM (0FSuD)

646 His position on sodomy was correct: you try to force a minor to perform sodomy you will be prosecuted.

Posted by: Jesse Pinkman, PhD Bitches! at November 05, 2013 04:54 PM (mpTrn)

647 Ace a platform is a promise of legislation. The 2012 GOP platform called for a Constitutional amendment that life begins at conception.

Posted by: blaster at November 05, 2013 04:54 PM (4+AaH)

648 The trend is only as good as the districts still left to report

Posted by: Tofer732 at November 05, 2013 04:55 PM (6DkSW)

649

Pro life is one thing, but presuming to now be so full of Righteous Nannying Truth that you're going to start fucking with people's birth control pills is quite another.

But whatever, the Redder the Better, right?

Posted by: ace at November 05, 2013 08:52 PM (/FnUH)

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Pfft.

All these skirts need to do is take an aspirin and hold it between their knees. Birth control solved.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at November 05, 2013 04:55 PM (JDIKC)

650

wait until Fairfax reports

it will be like an avalanche

Posted by: thunderb at November 05, 2013 04:55 PM (zOTsN)

651 Purp said: How many precincts in NoVA have > 100% turnout?

I thought that was Cook County, IL and Philadelphia's trade secret to great success, safety, financial security, endless trippers and lines of coke?

Posted by: Uriah Heep at November 05, 2013 04:55 PM (jhI6f)

652 The Horde needs to organize a hunting trip. We need to kill something and eat it and drink beer and just engage in some good old fashioned back to nature fellowship.

Otherwise, I'm going to get really angry. And you wouldn't like me when I'm angry.....

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 05, 2013 08:50 PM (GEICT)

I highly recommend laughing, which this blog is pretty good at doing. I was watching Jonathan Winters/Dean Martin last night on youtube and Lily Tomlin. I also highly recommend the footbawl writings of Spencer Hall, who is a sad trombone of a Gator fan right now. It is very easy to fall into despair...don't let these bastids win.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky hates elections at November 05, 2013 04:55 PM (baL2B)

653 Too bad my husband's cousin sold his hunting compound in the SC low country a couple of months ago.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 05, 2013 08:53 PM (lVPtV)

Can't hunt. No guns. That boating incident.

Posted by: tangonine at November 05, 2013 04:55 PM (x3YFz)

654 >>>>>Maybe it should be a sign to change course then? Maybe? Or you can keep up with this "smarter than you" attitude and see how that works. We'll come flocking back in droves. I thought y'all left never to return again? LIB and SMOD and all that? You can not act like the concept of appealing to moderates as one of several tactics is like installing a Soviet puppet government any day you want.

Posted by: WAGOPinTX at November 05, 2013 04:55 PM (i2t2+)

655 Posted by: sven10077 at November 05, 2013 08:48 *tips hat*

Posted by: Meremortal, Low Info Mofo at November 05, 2013 04:55 PM (1Y+hH)

656 CNN!!!!!! 75% reporting STILL 48-45. WTF???????????????? No change at all over last 16 percent precinsts reporting

Posted by: zombie at November 05, 2013 04:55 PM (+cx5n)

657 ASSHOLE.

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 05, 2013 08:54 PM (0FSuD)

Heh. We still have a freezer full of venison and wild boar.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 05, 2013 04:55 PM (lVPtV)

658 Clinging to hope with my fingernails. Posted by: zombie at November 05, 2013 08:51 PM (+cx5n) You shouldn't do that. It makes the inevitable DOOM that much more painful if you doÂ…

Posted by: The Political Hat at November 05, 2013 04:56 PM (Vk2pI)

659 648 no wait until Fairfax reports it will be like an avalanche Posted by: thunderb at November 05, 2013 08:55 PM (zOTsN) Have you missed my posts? They are reporting. Just precincts are slowly trickling in.

Posted by: Kaitian at November 05, 2013 04:56 PM (AFTTf)

660 633 mama winger,

it eases things up...and my former donations will have real property in a fallback position....

Posted by: sven10077 at November 05, 2013 04:56 PM (9jfyN)

661 If you want to ban birth control pills, then yes, there's no place for you. If you want to hold that position as a personal morality issue, then no. How hard is that? Posted by: Jeepers ----------------------------- What if you are disinclined to pay for them?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 05, 2013 04:56 PM (aDwsi)

662 Can't hunt. No guns. That boating incident.

Posted by: tangonine at November 05, 2013 08:55 PM (x3YFz)

I know. Same here.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 05, 2013 04:57 PM (lVPtV)

663 The trend is only as good as the districts still left to report

Yes and No. I don't know the number of votes left outstanding. At some point, this needs to move, otherwise Mc will need a huge percentage edge in the reminder to win.

The fact that the networks haven't called it means the mapping between the returns and the exits aren't good enough to be reliable.

They wait, we hope...

Posted by: Uriah Heep at November 05, 2013 04:57 PM (jhI6f)

664 77% Reporting Ken Cuccinelli 775,602 47.8% Terry McAuliffe 734,156 45.3% Robert Sarvis 112,189 6.9%

Posted by: Voltaire's Crack at November 05, 2013 04:57 PM (gXtDC)

665 Can't hunt. No guns. That boating incident.

Posted by: tangonine at November 05, 2013 08:55 PM (x3YFz)

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You too ??!

Posted by: mama winger at November 05, 2013 04:57 PM (P6QsQ)

666 It's not about abortion or any other social issue, it's determination and unified messaging. The same error lost for us in the shutdown when RINOS appeared on Maddow and CNN and back-talked Cruz, while the other guys were united. The same error lost the filibuster over O'care when initially drafted. The same blunder allowed it on the floor due to Olympia Snowe refusing to stop it from reaching the floor. Red state Dems, contra-wise, when it counts, stick with Pelosi on big issues. Posted by: Mehow at November 05, 2013 08:53 PM (4f3fs) ^^^THIS! And it doesn't help that the media gives fawning coverage to "maverick" republicans, while covering for more centrist Dems.

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at November 05, 2013 04:57 PM (Y5I9o)

667 Have you missed my posts? They are reporting. Just precincts are slowly trickling in. Posted by: Kaitian ------------------ That is the way that dam breaks always start.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 05, 2013 04:57 PM (aDwsi)

668 >>>Pfft.All these skirts need to do is take an aspirin and hold it between their knees. Birth control solved. never gets old, man thanks for listening

Posted by: ace at November 05, 2013 04:57 PM (/FnUH)

669

While I share the more stringent anti-abortion philosophy - that a human being is killed no matter when the abortion happens - I have concluded that it's in our overall best interests to let this one go. We need to embrace the positives - it's not conservatives who are having the abortions. It's our cultural and political enemies. If they want to murder their kids, who am I to stop them? Why should we struggle and fight to help insure that more of them are born, a major portion of whom we would end up paying to support?

They'll get their just punishment in the afterlife.

Posted by: Reactionary at November 05, 2013 04:57 PM (jfeoD)

670 Pro life is one thing, but presuming to now be so full of Righteous Nannying Truth that you're going to start fucking with people's birth control pills is quite another. But whatever, the Redder the Better, right? Posted by: ace at November 05, 2013 08:52 PM (/FnUH) Ace, someone mentioned upthread that the SCOTUS already decided this. Griswold v. Conn. Is the argument that a virginia state bill could render null and void the SCOTUS decision?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 05, 2013 04:57 PM (GEICT)

671 >>Just be Slim Whitman riding that atomic bomb down to Mother Russia, whoopin' it up, wavin' your hat.<<

...and yodeling all the while

Posted by: Albie Damned at November 05, 2013 04:57 PM (Yhu4q)

672

question

would the medical community

of which there is a lot in Fairfax

not vote dem and vote pub because of JEFCare?

no I haven't been drinking

and I know it prolly isn't enough to deliver Fairfax

Posted by: thunderb at November 05, 2013 04:57 PM (zOTsN)

673 No change at all over last 16 percent precinsts reporting Posted by: zombie at Un-possible. Seriously.

Posted by: Meremortal, Low Info Mofo at November 05, 2013 04:57 PM (1Y+hH)

674 654 CNN!!!!!!

75% reporting

STILL 48-45.

WTF????????????????

No change at all over last 16 percent precinsts
reporting

Posted by: zombie at November 05, 2013 08:55 PM (+cx5n)

Suddenly some old rusty Lincolns drive up with bulging trunks of dead voters.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky hates elections at November 05, 2013 04:58 PM (baL2B)

675 Ace,
Your logic on Cucc is failing here. Did the Lt. Gov canadiate for the GOP sponser that bill? Because he is running 1% behind Cucc and is losing by 6.5% at this point while Cucc is up 3.3%. One thing is for sure is that the so called Libertarians in VA are in fact raging liberals because it looks like they are costing McAuliffe big time yet had no problem for voting for his VERY liberal running mate for Lt Gov.

Posted by: Rocks at November 05, 2013 04:58 PM (vR0sZ)

676 Just be Slim Whitman riding that atomic bomb down to Mother Russia, whoopin' it up, wavin' your hat. Singing "Rose-Marie"?

Posted by: Otis Criblecoblis at November 05, 2013 04:58 PM (IlZPo)

677 "And it doesn't help that the media gives fawning coverage to "maverick" republicans, while covering for more centrist Dems." McCain rather sell Republicans out than fight against Democrats. His own people have admitted that McCain thought about becoming a Democrat instead.

Posted by: Kaitian at November 05, 2013 04:58 PM (AFTTf)

678 Kiana, you don't seem to understand. "The Pill" works by being an abortifacient. If you are a woman depending on the pill to prevent your pregnancy, you are depending upon abortion. The pill does not prevent your eggs from becoming fertilized, it simply prevents them from "taking". Most of the time. Simply, that's a fact. It's an open fact, even if not widely known. Abortion advocates sure as hell are keenly aware of this. That's why they saw this "life begins at fertilization" idea that Cuccinelli put forth, and freaked out. That idea is not a new one, it is the stance of the Roman Catholic Church (Cuccinelli's), and it forms the basis of Catholic's infamous opposition to birth control over the years. So, can we have actual Catholic leaders in America?

Posted by: Cowboy at November 05, 2013 04:58 PM (f73Jj)

679 Heh. We still have a freezer full of venison and wild boar. Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 05, 2013 08:55 PM (lVPtV) Shit, my son when to work in ATL and left 50 lbs of fucking bear meat in my freezer and the damn paws. Thing weighted in at 428lbs.

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 05, 2013 04:58 PM (0FSuD)

680 669 Slim Pickens not SlimWhitman.

Posted by: steevy at November 05, 2013 04:58 PM (zqvg6)

681

Can't hunt. No guns. That boating incident.

Posted by: tangonine at November 05, 2013 08:55 PM (x3YFz)

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You too ??!

Posted by: mama winger at November 05, 2013 08:57 PM (P6QsQ)

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I lost all mine when they fell out of a canoe next Sunday.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at November 05, 2013 04:58 PM (JDIKC)

682 I want to watch Mika weep uncontrollably on MSDNC tomorrow.

I'll savor every tear.

And knowing Mooch watches MSDNC while working out her huge ass in the morning makes it especially sweet.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 05, 2013 04:58 PM (lVPtV)

683 Uh oh: NYT shows a sudden lurch leftward in results: Kenneth T. Cuccinelli II Rep. 775,602 47.8% Terry McAuliffe Dem. 734,156 45.3 Robert Sarvis Lib. 112,189 6.9 77% reporting

Posted by: zombie at November 05, 2013 04:59 PM (+cx5n)

684 Imagine what things would be like if every other F-ing week we didn't have some kind of stab in the back like McCain's Wacko Birds comment to keep the fire trained on the GOP and off the Dems.

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at November 05, 2013 04:59 PM (Y5I9o)

685 ...and yodeling all the while

Posted by: Albie Damned at November 05, 2013 08:57 PM (Yhu4q)

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I automatically love anyone who can yodel.

Posted by: mama winger at November 05, 2013 04:59 PM (P6QsQ)

686 Heh. We still have a freezer full of venison and wild boar. Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 05, 2013 08:55 PM (lVPtV) Now I'm jealous. And hungry.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 05, 2013 04:59 PM (GEICT)

687 Thanks for your comment, jeepers. So, if I wish to vote on my own convictions, that I'm no longer welcome in the Republican Party Got it.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz. at November 05, 2013 04:59 PM (HcoQw)

688 Can't hunt. No guns. That tragic boating incident. Posted by: tangonine

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 05, 2013 04:59 PM (aDwsi)

689 BC, Did you get my email?

Posted by: EC at November 05, 2013 04:59 PM (doBIb)

690 well then he shouldn't have fucking written that bill to just show off to his Pro Life friends, if he had no real desire to do what his bill suggested. This.

Posted by: Deety at November 05, 2013 04:59 PM (DN2Ge)

691 Now leave. Heh. I can't even see you in the rearview mirror anymore.

Posted by: toby928© at November 05, 2013 05:00 PM (QupBk)

692 (I think he meant stunned that candidates of their preference are not given preferential funding by the Party they so loudly left, stomping their feet and slamming the door.) Eh, guess I read it wrong then. Easy to do for a moron like me. Well that and I didn't read all the comments like everyone else does

Posted by: Burn the Witch at November 05, 2013 05:00 PM (ObHhj)

693

never gets old, man

thanks for listening

Posted by: ace at November 05, 2013 08:57 PM (/FnUH)

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I've been waiting to pull that one out since the podcast. But you already knew that.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at November 05, 2013 05:00 PM (JDIKC)

694 Shit, my son when to work in ATL and left 50 lbs of fucking bear meat in my freezer and the damn paws.

Thing weighted in at 428lbs.

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 05, 2013 08:58 PM (0FSuD)

o_O

You eat little teddy bears?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 05, 2013 05:00 PM (lVPtV)

695 The Horde needs to organize a hunting trip. We need to kill something and eat it and drink beer and just engage in some good old fashioned back to nature fellowship. e mail me.......

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at November 05, 2013 05:00 PM (l3vZN)

696 I hate Matt Drudge for giving me hope.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky hates elections at November 05, 2013 05:00 PM (baL2B)

697 I automatically love anyone who can yodel. Posted by: mama winger ------------------- How you doing?

Posted by: Zombie Slim Whitman at November 05, 2013 05:00 PM (aDwsi)

698 682 Uh oh: NYT shows a sudden lurch leftward in results: Actually based on the VA site, it's gotten slightly right a bit.

Posted by: Kaitian at November 05, 2013 05:01 PM (AFTTf)

699 @679 Riding the bomb! http://tinyurl.com/6fy5gd

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 05, 2013 05:01 PM (0FSuD)

700 All the RINOs and LIVs are my enemy. No more Mr. nice guy. That is all. Posted by: tangonine HUA Sir!

Posted by: Dept. Of Acuracy at November 05, 2013 05:01 PM (MhA4j)

701 Any law banning the pill is still unconstitutional as it was 49 years ago. Penumbras and emanations. Never mind. Carry on.

Posted by: Beagle at November 05, 2013 05:01 PM (sOtz/)

702 We are all socialists now.

Posted by: Newsweek at November 05, 2013 05:01 PM (HcoQw)

703 has Fairfax boned the rest of the state yet?

Posted by: thunderb at November 05, 2013 05:01 PM (zOTsN)

704 Here's hoping there are some large republican areas still outstanding

Posted by: Tofer732 at November 05, 2013 05:01 PM (6DkSW)

705 Drudge does seem to be flogging this lead something fierce though. Hmm.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 05, 2013 05:01 PM (kqGWM)

706 You are in for a letdown zombie.

Posted by: genew at November 05, 2013 05:01 PM (Al3QW)

707 Well, the trend has unfortunately now resumed its former track, with McC now on the trend-line to win HOWEVER, it will be closer than the previosu trendline as they are running out of room for a huge surge.

Posted by: zombie at November 05, 2013 05:01 PM (+cx5n)

708 >>>If you want to ban birth control pills, then yes, there's no place for you. If you want to hold that position as a personal morality issue, then no. How hard is that? Posted by: Jeepers ----------------------------- What if you are disinclined to pay for them? ... discinclined to pay for them is fine, perfect. here's the problem: Again, it's one thing to be pro-life. There's a legitimate interest in that. But some people are segueing this directly into an attempt to stop people from sinfully fornicating, by fucking with their right to use birth control. There is definitely an undercurrent of "these dirty girls should either be abstinent or accept that birth is God's plan." You have no legitimate interest in that. No arguable interest in that. You are greatly overstepping your bounds, which is why women, especially, recoil from the GOP. This is why we lose. Some are determined to fuck with people and impose their idea of How Life Should Be Lived on Others through government force.

Posted by: ace at November 05, 2013 05:01 PM (/FnUH)

709 Live election results here http://electionresults.virginia.gov/resultsSW.aspx?type=SWR&map=CTY

Posted by: 18-1 at November 05, 2013 05:01 PM (uUvS8)

710 WaPost: Aug 27 --- At the Ashby Ponds retirement community in Ashburn, the Republican was asked by a woman whether, as governor, he would Â“support and sign personhood legislation that contains restrictions on birth-control medication and birth-control devices.Â” Â“I donÂ’t think government should be doing anything about birth control. . . . So, no, I would not,Â” Cuccinelli responded. Â“Government legislation shouldnÂ’t address contraception.Â” When the woman suggested that meant he would not support personhood legislation, Â“because thatÂ’s automatic with a personhood bill,Â” Cuccinelli replied: Â“If you say so, but what IÂ’m telling you is IÂ’m not going to touch contraception as governor, so I think you and I might disagree.Â” Â“So the rumors that you would support birth-control restrictions are false?Â” she asked. Â“Actually,Â” Cuccinelli said, Â“I wouldnÂ’t call them rumors, I might call them lies. Yeah, letÂ’s be accurate about this.Â” Cuccinelli reiterated that point to reporters after the event. Â“IÂ‘ve never supported legislation that invades peopleÂ’s choices about contraception,Â” he said. Â“People can argue what they want about personhood. IÂ’ve said it before and IÂ’m telling you now, that contraception is not something weÂ’re going to regulate, period.Â”

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 05, 2013 05:01 PM (ZPrif)

711 Megyn Kelly is powdering her hand and about to antique a bitch (Barry).

(hee--I learned that from the son)

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 05, 2013 05:02 PM (lVPtV)

712 @405

Which means if the national GOP helped Cucc out he probably would have won.

Posted by: Kreplach at November 05, 2013 05:02 PM (dwtaK)

713 702 has Fairfax boned the rest of the state yet? Posted by: thunderb at November 05, 2013 09:01 PM (zOTsN) It keeps getting fatter and fatter in Democratic votes. I'm tracking it as precincts gets counted more.

Posted by: Kaitian at November 05, 2013 05:02 PM (AFTTf)

714 DEM LT. GOV with 105,000 MORE votes than Terry Mac @ 76%...Those are Dem votes for GOV left on the table...CLOSE!!!

Posted by: JDW at November 05, 2013 05:02 PM (UEoQu)

715 688 BC, Did you get my email? Posted by: EC at November 05, 2013 08:59 PM (doBIb) I did. Thanks. You eat little teddy bears? Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 05, 2013 09:00 PM (lVPtV) Hell yes. I had bear meat burgers once back in high school. Freaking delicious. Everyone of you shut up. I know what I said.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 05, 2013 05:02 PM (GEICT)

716 Another thing, the WashPoMacacaTimes has been ON McDonnell for over a year, every single day. How that guy didn't know to have an ethics attorney with him at all times is a mystery.

Posted by: dagny at November 05, 2013 05:02 PM (Wsv8z)

717 Remember McAullife lied about Cuccinellis position. If the rule is dont do anything they can lie about we are screwed.

Posted by: blaster at November 05, 2013 05:02 PM (4+AaH)

718 705 You are in for a letdown zombie. Posted by: genew Nah. I expected the Dem to win. Just takin' a thrill ride before the depression sets in.

Posted by: zombie at November 05, 2013 05:03 PM (+cx5n)

719 but quickly, before the linky goes away.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at November 05, 2013 05:03 PM (l3vZN)

720 Here comes the swamp though...

Posted by: WAGOPinTX at November 05, 2013 05:03 PM (i2t2+)

721 >>>One thing is for sure is that the so called Libertarians in VA are in fact raging liberals because it looks like they are costing McAuliffe big time yet had no problem for voting for his VERY liberal running mate for Lt Gov.

Ha! Ralph Northam may be any number of things, but "very liberal" isn't one of them. His State Senate district is a major GOP target for pick-up in a special election.

Posted by: Jeff B. at November 05, 2013 05:03 PM (n/+FT)

722 Yeah - Fairfax is just about to bend the state over...

Posted by: JDW at November 05, 2013 05:03 PM (UEoQu)

723 We're equating birth control pills with abortion? Long ass night ahead.

Posted by: NCKate at November 05, 2013 05:03 PM (2VHEL)

724 Well, I can at least report that my wife voted today for the first time (just became a citizen) and voted straight GOP.

Posted by: Pete at November 05, 2013 05:03 PM (TiZlI)

725 It wouldn't be Savannah without at least one trannie, wearing a dress and pearls, to show up.

So you read "Midnight In The Garden Of Good And Evil"?

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at November 05, 2013 05:04 PM (d7tB2)

726 695 I hate Matt Drudge for giving me hope.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky hates elections at November 05, 2013 09:00 PM (baL2B)

Come here and have a seat. Let's share chocolate martinis.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 05, 2013 05:04 PM (lVPtV)

727 HOWEVER, it will be closer than the previosu trendline as they are running out of room for a huge surge.

No they're not. It's not only Captain Ramius who can pull 110% power out.

Sorry, couldn't resist. You're correct.

Posted by: Uriah Heep at November 05, 2013 05:04 PM (jhI6f)

728 Hating Matt Drudge a few more % than ten minutes ago.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky hates elections at November 05, 2013 05:04 PM (baL2B)

729 >>>Any law banning the pill is still unconstitutional as it was 49 years ago. Penumbras and emanations. then why gesture at it? You're right, but then why did Cucc refuse to include something to that effect in his bill? It's for a very obvious reason: Because he wanted to signal his purity on the issue. He did not want to dirty himself to be seen as blessing -- simply allowing, really -- women's use of the BCP. Well, he signaled that. The signal was sent and then received. You cannot signal this shit and insist that only your fellow partisans (those who will take it as a GOOD signal) are permitted to receive the signal and act accordingly. This is Yasser Arafat stuff. People want to say one thing but just to their friends, and then pretend they didn't say it when facing a less friendly audience. If this shit is gestural only, then stop using the LAW as a place for gestures. It does nothing but destroy us politically.

Posted by: ace at November 05, 2013 05:04 PM (/FnUH)

730 Pete your gonna have to get married several more times

Posted by: thunderb at November 05, 2013 05:04 PM (zOTsN)

731 This is why we lose. Some are determined to fuck with people and impose their idea of How Life Should Be Lived on Others through government force. ___ Hey guys - remember if you'd don't buy brosurance I'm sicc'ing the IRS on you.

Posted by: Barack Obama at November 05, 2013 05:04 PM (uUvS8)

732 As you can see, Cucc went out of his way, over and over again, to vow that he will do nothing to regulate birth control or pass restrictions or anything of the sort. He had to do that because of the avalanche of ads smearing him. And every time he swore to god he would not pass any birth control restrictions as governor, the Left just said he was lying. Evil so-con lies.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 05, 2013 05:05 PM (ZPrif)

733 We are getting so we can have a Loudoun County meetup! Waterford here, Pete.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at November 05, 2013 05:05 PM (l3vZN)

734 725 It wouldn't be Savannah without at least one trannie, wearing a dress and pearls, to show up.

So you read "Midnight In The Garden Of Good And Evil"?

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at November 05, 2013 09:04 PM (d7tB2)

Honey, I live this shit. And the ghosties.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 05, 2013 05:05 PM (lVPtV)

735 Wait, I'm supposed to care about this? That seems...incorrect. Let's get back to the O-Care beatdown as soon as possible.

Posted by: Emmanuel Goldstein at November 05, 2013 05:05 PM (Tlix5)

736 Come here and have a seat. Let's share chocolate martinis.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 05, 2013 09:04 PM (lVPtV)

Sadly I have reached my chocolate quota of day, but I'll take the gin straight up and pretend it is Friday. Thank you!

Posted by: ChristyBlinky hates elections at November 05, 2013 05:05 PM (baL2B)

737 But some people are segueing this directly into an attempt to stop people from sinfully fornicating, by fucking with their right to use birth control. Bullshit. No one is doing that. Once again, Griswold v. Conn decided this and no one is challenging it. There is definitely an undercurrent of "these dirty girls should either be abstinent or accept that birth is God's plan." Again, bullshit. I'm heavily involved in my Southern Baptist church and yes, abstinence is preached, but there has never been a push on birth controls or some "dirty girls" idea. This is why we lose. Some are determined to fuck with people and impose their idea of How Life Should Be Lived on Others through government force. Posted by: ace at November 05, 2013 09:01 PM (/FnUH) Bullshit for the 3rd time. That's the DEM position, not the Con one.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 05, 2013 05:06 PM (GEICT)

738 I hope all you guys who can't wait to throw the socons out of the party brush up on your election skills.

Like, manning the phones in the weeks running up to the elections. Like calling everyone on the voter rolls. Like transporting the old folks to the polling stations. Like being election judges and observers. Like going door to door with literature. Like all that ground game stuff.

Because who do you think has been carrying a large chunk of that work? Oh yeah. The church ladies.

I should know, I've done it for more years than some of you have been eligible to vote.

Not any more. You better brush up on your skills.

Posted by: mama winger at November 05, 2013 05:06 PM (P6QsQ)

739 81% in and Cooch still up. Is there really no hope?

Posted by: Sharon at November 05, 2013 05:06 PM (DtEq4)

740 82% Reporting Ken Cuccinelli 814,120 47.2% Terry McAuliffe 791,663 45.9% Robert Sarvis 118,639 6.9%

Posted by: Voltaire's Crack at November 05, 2013 05:06 PM (gXtDC)

741 695 I hate Matt Drudge for giving me hope.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky hates elections at November 05, 2013 09:00 PM (baL2B)

"The only hope you have is to accept the fact that you're already dead. The sooner you accept that, the sooner you'll be able to function as a soldier is supposed to function: without mercy, without compassion, without remorse. All war depends upon it."

Lt Spiers

Posted by: tangonine at November 05, 2013 05:06 PM (x3YFz)

742 Boy, Buono gets steamrolled and Cuccinelli's slowing to stall speed...tough night for us guineas.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at November 05, 2013 05:06 PM (hcHS/)

743 56258 Fairfax County - Possible Outcome 85830 98143.51825 C 149732.6277 M 51589.10949 Mc Lead over C 54448.15 -2859.040511 Increase/Decrease Oh Shit, THERE JUST MAY BE HOPE FOR US ALL.

Posted by: Kaitian at November 05, 2013 05:06 PM (AFTTf)

744 The so-called right wing blogosphere didn't do shit this election. Fuck you too.

Posted by: FUBAR at November 05, 2013 05:06 PM (Cs2tJ)

745 For the North Carolinians ( or anyone, actually) the Charlotte Observer ran a political cartoon today that floored me. Normally they are among the Obama throne sniffers. http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2013/11/04/4439851/siers-cartoon-health-care-promises.html

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 05, 2013 05:06 PM (aDwsi)

746 how much of Fairfax is in?

Posted by: thunderb at November 05, 2013 05:07 PM (zOTsN)

747 I automatically love anyone who can yodel.

here's the man for you -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYp2LGKOF_M

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at November 05, 2013 05:07 PM (d7tB2)

748 Well, I can at least report that my wife voted today for the first time (just became a citizen) and voted straight GOP.

Posted by: Pete at November 05, 2013 09:03 PM (TiZlI)

Wow - people still come here and bother to get citizenship? Wonders never cease. I wonder how many of them are thinking "I just left one socialist hell hole for another soon-to-be socialist hell hole..."

Posted by: Reactionary at November 05, 2013 05:07 PM (jfeoD)

749 Fairfax County - Possible Outcome 98143.51825 C 149732.6277 M 51589.10949 Mc Lead over C -2859.040511 Increase/Decrease Sorry, repost. The difference on possible outcome went down by 2.8K against Cucc.

Posted by: Kaitian at November 05, 2013 05:07 PM (AFTTf)

750 Wow, Terry is really under-performing his Lt. Gov tonight:

Gov ---- R47-D46
LtGov --R46-D54

Posted by: Uriah Heep at November 05, 2013 05:07 PM (jhI6f)

751 745 how much of Fairfax is in? Posted by: thunderb at November 05, 2013 09:07 PM (zOTsN) 137 Precincts out of 239 2.8K swing in Cucc's direction in possible outcome.

Posted by: Kaitian at November 05, 2013 05:08 PM (AFTTf)

752 "The only hope you have is to accept the fact that you're already dead. The sooner you accept that, the sooner you'll be able to function as a soldier is supposed to function: without mercy, without compassion, without remorse. All war depends upon it." Lt Spiers Posted by: tangonine at November 05, 2013 09:06 PM (x3YFz) "The only hope of the vanquished is not to hope."

Posted by: Virgil at November 05, 2013 05:08 PM (Vk2pI)

753
81% in and Cooch still up. Is there really no hope?

Not really. Look at Fairfax County.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at November 05, 2013 05:08 PM (0IhFx)

754
"The only hope you have is to accept the fact that you're already dead.
The sooner you accept that, the sooner you'll be able to function as a
soldier is supposed to function: without mercy, without compassion,
without remorse. All war depends upon it."

Lt Spiers

Excellent quote--Sergeant Frank Perconte passed away a few days ago.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at November 05, 2013 05:08 PM (hcHS/)

755 Dammit, Drudge, you fucking tease.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 05, 2013 05:08 PM (lVPtV)

756 "The only hope you have is to accept the fact that you're already dead. The sooner you accept that, the sooner you'll be able to function as a soldier is supposed to function: without mercy, without compassion, without remorse. All war depends upon it." Lt Spiers Cigarette?

Posted by: EC at November 05, 2013 05:08 PM (doBIb)

757 "...every time he swore to god he would not pass any birth control restrictions as governor, the Left just said he was lying." Makes sense. It is easy to believe others do what you do.

Posted by: Meremortal, Low Info Mofo at November 05, 2013 05:08 PM (1Y+hH)

758 I don't think there is much more hope, the population is too stupid. Look what NYC just did. They make Virginia look like Utah.

Posted by: dagny at November 05, 2013 05:08 PM (Wsv8z)

759 uh oh. Less than 1% lead now

Posted by: Sharon at November 05, 2013 05:08 PM (DtEq4)

760 Some are determined to fuck with people and impose their idea of How Life Should Be Lived on Others through government force.

Posted by: ace at November 05, 2013 09:01 PM (/FnUH)

------------

Yeah. They're called Progressives.

for the love of pete.

Posted by: mama winger at November 05, 2013 05:08 PM (P6QsQ)

761 724 pete,

tell her wecome home...and thanks....

I'm not a republican but I'd rather they win mostly.....

Posted by: sven10077 at November 05, 2013 05:08 PM (9jfyN)

762 @730 LOL! One is enough!

@733 over in the South Riding/Stone Ridge area. A Loudoun or NoVa moron meetup would be cool...

Posted by: Pete at November 05, 2013 05:08 PM (TiZlI)

763 How is what Cucc said in the debates, on the campaign trail, and to every major newspaper, repeatedly, that he will do nothing, nothing!, to limit birth control ... how is that consistent with him being a so-con warrior who's gonna ban birth control?

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 05, 2013 05:09 PM (ZPrif)

764 Mike, they also didn't endorse the black dem for mayor. Unheard of.

Posted by: NCKate at November 05, 2013 05:09 PM (2VHEL)

765 Okay, VA. Prove that you're another Short Bus state.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 05, 2013 05:09 PM (lVPtV)

766 Under one percent spread now. This is when it all falls apart, right?

Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 05, 2013 05:09 PM (kqGWM)

767 Mrs. D'Oh, you should hopefully have email arriving shortly.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 05, 2013 05:10 PM (GEICT)

768 @734 My sister was married at St John's. Dad was buried there.

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 05, 2013 05:10 PM (0FSuD)

769

falling off the cliff

Posted by: thunderb at November 05, 2013 05:10 PM (zOTsN)

770 Fairfax isn't like Montgomery Co. Maryland. It's lib but not THAT lib.

Posted by: dagny at November 05, 2013 05:10 PM (Wsv8z)

771
Excellent quote--Sergeant Frank Perconte passed away a few days ago.

Holy shit. I didn't know that.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at November 05, 2013 05:10 PM (0IhFx)

772

Because who do you think has been carrying a large chunk of that work? Oh yeah. The church ladies.

I should know, I've done it for more years than some of you have been eligible to vote.

Not any more. You better brush up on your skills.

Posted by: mama winger at November 05, 2013 09:06 PM (P6QsQ)

<<<<<<<<<<<

Well, you're a spicy little dish, mama winger! I'm picking up what you're putting down.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at November 05, 2013 05:10 PM (JDIKC)

773 55% of Fairfax is in.

Posted by: Boss Moss the Redskin Savage at November 05, 2013 05:10 PM (Kud5A)

774 >>>As you can see, Cucc went out of his way, over and over again, to vow that he will do nothing to regulate birth control or pass restrictions or anything of the sort.

Too.

Fucking.

Late.

Cooch was a fool to think he could write and support the bill that he did and only THEN turn around and say "oh no, won't ban birth control" during the campaign. Voters quite logically would look to what he actually did when he had power as opposed to any campaign promises that he made when asking for their vote.

This is why your continued bleats that Cooch didn't run as a social conservative are ridiculous. It doesn't fucking matter what he did during a six month campaign. He was being judged on his record since 2009. He couldn't just walk away from that and say "oh no, forget that shit! I'm a business-first guy!"

Posted by: Jeff B. at November 05, 2013 05:10 PM (n/+FT)

775 God, I am so depressed. Wanted this to be a referendum.

Posted by: Sharon at November 05, 2013 05:10 PM (DtEq4)

776 here's the man for you -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYp2LGKOF_M

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at November 05, 2013 09:07 PM (d7tB2)

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needs more accordian.

Posted by: mama winger at November 05, 2013 05:10 PM (P6QsQ)

777
Democrat Machine: Hang on. We're still printing ballots

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 05, 2013 05:11 PM (JivuR)

778 So, if you have a general problem with the massive breakdown in the morality of society, then there is no place for you in the Republican Party. Got it. Because electability, or something.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 05, 2013 05:11 PM (HcoQw)

779 Excellent quote--Sergeant Frank Perconte passed away a few days ago.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at November 05, 2013 09:08 PM (hcHS/)

We're here to make sure it wasn't for nothing.

The rest of my thoughts are between me, God, and Perconte.

Posted by: tangonine at November 05, 2013 05:11 PM (x3YFz)

780 Glug: 82% reporting LEad now just 1%: 46%-47% Exactly as predicted, he will pass Cucc at around 85% of precincts reporting

Posted by: zombie at November 05, 2013 05:11 PM (+cx5n)

781 766 Mrs. D'Oh, you should hopefully have email arriving shortly.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 05, 2013 09:10 PM (GEICT)

Thanks. Will check now.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 05, 2013 05:11 PM (lVPtV)

782

fleet of rust bucket lincolns pulling in now

Posted by: thunderb at November 05, 2013 05:11 PM (zOTsN)

783 Yes Flatbush Joe, obviously he has denied the politically toxic implications of the bill he voluntarily wrote and refused to alter. Wow, politician walks away from something that hurts him. Film at 11. How about, once again, just not WRITING this kind of no-exceptions bill, if your plan is always to walk away from it at the first sign of trouble? How about, once again, including the exception (nothing herein shall be construed to apply to birth control pills) that would have solved all this? if you want to signal you're a no-exceptions absolutist, you can't complain when people believe you.

Posted by: ace at November 05, 2013 05:11 PM (/FnUH)

784 79.65% precincts in, C 46.87%, M 45.95%

Posted by: barbarausa at November 05, 2013 05:11 PM (WWeoI)

785 Terry Mac..... call me pal.

Posted by: Al Franken at November 05, 2013 05:11 PM (IrLKP)

786 686 Thanks for your comment, jeepers. So, if I wish to vote on my own convictions, that I'm no longer welcome in the Republican Party

Got it. Posted by: Herr Morgenholz

Sure, no problem. There's the door, and take any of your dingbat friends that also want to ban birth control pills with you.

We'll do much better without you.

Posted by: Jeepers at November 05, 2013 05:11 PM (XDRsa)

787
Fairfax isn't like Montgomery Co. Maryland. It's lib but not THAT lib.

Mcauliffe is up 20% in Fairfax, with 55% reporting.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at November 05, 2013 05:11 PM (0IhFx)

788 via twitter "@SteveDeaceShow

Latest tweet from inside Cuccinelli war room: "Still some of our counties out as well. Sit tight."

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at November 05, 2013 05:11 PM (KL49F)

789 Fairfax was pretty even in the last election with 50% for McConnell last time. I'm hoping the R's hasn't been counted yet.

Posted by: Kaitian at November 05, 2013 05:11 PM (AFTTf)

790 754 Dammit, Drudge, you fucking tease.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 05, 2013 09:08 PM (lVPtV)

Well, it felt good there for a few minutes.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky hates elections at November 05, 2013 05:12 PM (baL2B)

791 I'm more plausible than Sarvis' Libertarianism.

Posted by: Sasquatch at November 05, 2013 05:12 PM (TLESu)

792 I wonder how many of them are thinking "I just left one socialist hell hole for another soon-to-be socialist hell hole..."

Happened to me.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo, naturalised '94 at November 05, 2013 05:12 PM (d7tB2)

793 Say, how did Cuccinelli win as AG 5 years ago with this on his record? Splain it to me.

Posted by: blaster at November 05, 2013 05:12 PM (4+AaH)

794 Hmmm, a bump back in our direction with the next percentage point: Kenneth T. Cuccinelli II Rep. 814,405 47.2% Terry McAuliffe Dem. 791,883 45.9 Robert Sarvis Lib. 118,661 6.9 82% reporting

Posted by: zombie at November 05, 2013 05:12 PM (+cx5n)

795 Some are determined to fuck with people and impose their idea of How Life Should Be Lived on Others through government force.

And some people are hypersensitive about the shitty way that they live their lives and are butthurt whenever someone suggests that their chosen lifestyle is less than 100% awesome.

Posted by: noone, really at November 05, 2013 05:12 PM (5ikDv)

796 McCaullife ends up winning by 3-4 pts. Solid, but far from spectacular.

Posted by: godzilla at November 05, 2013 05:12 PM (t8tck)

797 Oh noes11!!1 Cucc wants to ban cooch1!!1!

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 05, 2013 05:12 PM (HcoQw)

798 788 Fairfax was pretty even in the last election with 50% for McConnell last time. I'm hoping the R's hasn't been counted yet.

Posted by: Kaitian at November 05, 2013 09:11 PM (AFTTf)

I like whoever you are. Not sure about Bill Mitchell and Drudge, however.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky hates elections at November 05, 2013 05:13 PM (baL2B)

799 Whatever the outcome, this Cooch fellow is doing quite well considering he had to run against both parties.

Posted by: Meremortal, Low Info Mofo at November 05, 2013 05:13 PM (1Y+hH)

800 If Cooch loses, and likely will, the shutdown will not have had anything to do with it.

The furloughed were teat-suckers and that is never going to change

Posted by: Albie Damned at November 05, 2013 05:13 PM (Yhu4q)

801 BCochran, I e-mailed you back.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 05, 2013 05:13 PM (lVPtV)

802 McCaullife ends up winning by 3-4 pts. Solid, but far from spectacular.

Posted by: godzilla at November 05, 2013 05:13 PM (t8tck)

803 Congrats, VA. Enjoy the suck.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 05, 2013 05:14 PM (lVPtV)

804
Dead voters: Have our votes been counted yet?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 05, 2013 05:14 PM (JivuR)

805 Depends on what districts are still outstanding. There are plenty of red districts in otherwise blue counties. Heck, there are a lot of red districts in Essex County Nj (home of Newark)

Posted by: Tofer732 at November 05, 2013 05:14 PM (6DkSW)

806

This is why your continued bleats that Cooch didn't run as a social conservative are ridiculous. It doesn't fucking matter what he did during a six month campaign. He was being judged on his record since 2009. He couldn't just walk away from that and say "oh no, forget that shit! I'm a business-first guy!"

Posted by: Jeff B. at November 05, 2013 09:10 PM (n/+FT)

-----------------

Hmm. So far, this GOP voter outreach effort just isn't selling me on voting Republican.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at November 05, 2013 05:14 PM (JDIKC)

807 This entire "Cuccinelli wants to take birth control from women" is a canard. It's a lie. It is simply not true. I'm a Virginian who watched it all go down. That charge is an extrapolated, aggrandized charge. Lie. That debate we had here over this was actually pretty good and frank. And the pro-life side (Cuccinelli's and mine) LOST! But never at any time was restricting women's access to birth control on the table. It was an abortion fight, not a birth control fight, and left folded into their "War On Women" meme and went crazy. It was going down around the same time George Stephanophalous asked Mitt Romney why he wanted to ban birth control and Romney looked at him stunned saying, "What?"

Posted by: Cowboy at November 05, 2013 05:14 PM (f73Jj)

808 I strongly suspect there are more dems in Fairfax than there were last time. Government has only gotten bigger, after all

Posted by: thunderb at November 05, 2013 05:14 PM (zOTsN)

809 Hi jeepers. Nice to meet you.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 05, 2013 05:14 PM (HcoQw)

810 >>> I hope all you guys who can't wait to throw the socons out of the party brush up on your election skills. Like, manning the phones in the weeks running up to the elections. Like calling everyone on the voter rolls. Like transporting the old folks to the polling stations. Like being election judges and observers. Like going door to door with literature. Like all that ground game stuff. Because who do you think has been carrying a large chunk of that work? Oh yeah. The church ladies. I should know, I've done it for more years than some of you have been eligible to vote. Not any more. You better brush up on your skills. .. Fine, Mama Winger, because I have been trying to explain, I no more wish to be Nannied to Death by Obama and Bloomberg than by the church ladies. If my choice is only between who will be Nannying me, I say fuck everyone, and let it all burn.

Posted by: ace at November 05, 2013 05:14 PM (/FnUH)

811

@ 785 - "We'll do much better without you."

Except you won't have their votes...which you still sort of need.

Posted by: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus at November 05, 2013 05:15 PM (U+vgB)

812 Sure, no problem. There's the door, and take any of your dingbat friends that also want to ban birth control pills with you.

We'll do much better without you.

Posted by: Jeepers at November 05, 2013 09:11 PM (XDRsa)

Who wants to ban birth control pills? It's not even possible. It's like Mitt Romney gave my wife cancer. But the low infos and hysterics believe it.

Posted by: dagny at November 05, 2013 05:15 PM (Wsv8z)

813 Herr Morgenhol said: So, if you have a general problem with the massive breakdown in the morality of society, then there is no place for you in the Republican Party. Got it.

You know, how, like, Obama and many in his party are actually pretty radical in their desires to remake this country? Yeah, so, they don't talk about this because they're smart enough to realize it isn't very popular. So they get elected, act, but don't talk out loud.

Get the idea? Your idea might be right, might be justified and for the best of the nation. But shouting it from the rooftops will never help you, nor will it put you in a position to implement it until you wise up.

Posted by: Uriah Heep at November 05, 2013 05:15 PM (jhI6f)

814 Fairfax County - Possible Outcome 95197.24074 C 148337.858 M 53140.61728 Mc Lead over C 1551.617284 Increase/Decrease for Mc

Posted by: Kaitian at November 05, 2013 05:15 PM (AFTTf)

815 Isn't this how it ends up.
Killing a baby = you are imposing your will on someone
All the shit democrats do = not quite as important as not letting you kill a baby.

Our problem isn't that we run so-cons, it's that we run dumb so-cons who don't understand where the fuck they are when they sit down for an interview with someone as fat as Candy Crowley.

Fucking attack the question, turn the answer toward a two minutes speech about the horrible disaster Obama has turned the economy into and learn to do it over and over again.

Posted by: realityman at November 05, 2013 05:15 PM (Cs9Ps)

816 I'm getting a little tired of the "OMGZ the GOP wants to ban sex" line. I understand that most conservatives are, well, conservative, and don't talk about sex and the like in public. But at some point, we've got to fight back against this crap.

Mostly, because, if we're gonna flush this great country, it ain't gonna be for sex.

Posted by: WolfinNC at November 05, 2013 05:15 PM (Vvg+J)

817 803 empire of jeff,

I told Jeff B to bone up on Spanish....

Posted by: sven10077 at November 05, 2013 05:16 PM (9jfyN)

818 801 Congrats, VA. Enjoy the suck.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 05, 2013 09:14 PM (lVPtV)

VA just bent over in the prison shower on day 1 after borrowing 20 bars of soap and dropping ALL of them.

Have fun, rapees.

Posted by: tangonine at November 05, 2013 05:16 PM (x3YFz)

819 But the low infos and hysterics believe it. --- Well... a couple more than that.

Posted by: fixerupper at November 05, 2013 05:17 PM (IrLKP)

820 FUCK SARVIS FUCK SARVIS And so forth...

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 05, 2013 05:17 PM (8Mwgu)

821 Gee, who'd a thought a herd of gubmint leeches would vote against their food supply?

Fucking government, entitled bastards.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 05, 2013 05:17 PM (lVPtV)

822 >>>And some people are hypersensitive about the shitty way that they live their lives and are butthurt whenever someone suggests that their chosen lifestyle is less than 100% awesome. I could give a shit less about your backwards-ass, faux-righteous judgmental opinion. The problem comes when you want to pass laws. Then I mind. You seem pretty high on yourself if you think you can just step in for The Left and start bossing everyone around and giving them New Set of Rules to follow. Oh right God wants you to. I forgot. So I should prefer these rules over the left's.

Posted by: ace at November 05, 2013 05:17 PM (/FnUH)

823 Ace -

When was the last time you saw a "nannying" church lady? Do they even exist anymore? Can't say I've ever met one, and I've lived in NY, NJ, PA, and NC. Rural, urban, suburban. Never seen one.

Posted by: WolfinNC at November 05, 2013 05:17 PM (Vvg+J)

824 807 Ace,

welcome aboard....

still growing Smod 2016

Posted by: sven10077 at November 05, 2013 05:17 PM (9jfyN)

825 you can have your own opinion, but not your own facts. The objective evidence says Cucc did not run as a so-con warrior, despite the megabuck smear campaign claiming he did. And therefore it is a categorical error to blame his loss on something he did not do.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 05, 2013 05:18 PM (ZPrif)

826 OMGZ the GOP wants to ban sex

Sex will find a way to ban itself. The instinct is fading away toward sex substitutes.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at November 05, 2013 05:18 PM (hcHS/)

827 I really should have just read my book tonight instead of this.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky hates elections at November 05, 2013 05:18 PM (baL2B)

828

You know, how, like, Obama and many in his party are actually pretty radical in their desires to remake this country? Yeah, so, they don't talk about this because they're smart enough to realize it isn't very popular. So they get elected, act, but don't talk out loud.

Get the idea? Your idea might be right, might be justified and for the best of the nation. But shouting it from the rooftops will never help you, nor will it put you in a position to implement it until you wise up.

Posted by: Uriah Heep at November 05, 2013 09:15 PM (jhI6f)

-----------------

Like when Obama said in November 2008, "We're five days away from fundamentally transforming the United States of America"?

Yeah. We should go into fucking Stealth Mode like the Democrats.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at November 05, 2013 05:18 PM (JDIKC)

829 >>>Say, how did Cuccinelli win as AG 5 years ago with this on his record?

Splain it to me.

Because it wasn't on his record. This was all stuff he did after becoming AG and positioning himself to win the nomination.

Posted by: Jeff B. at November 05, 2013 05:18 PM (n/+FT)

830 Is it just me, or has the entire Dem agenda boiled down to killing babies, man-on-man rump humping, and destroying the economy?

Posted by: Albie Damned at November 05, 2013 05:18 PM (Yhu4q)

831 At least it looks like my Delegate race is going my way. You people who are pulling for a miracle out to pray for Obenshain. Fairfax is going to be a challenge.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at November 05, 2013 05:18 PM (l3vZN)

832 Did the mil absentee ballots go out on time?

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at November 05, 2013 05:18 PM (fZ2Zr)

833

What's really sad is that McAuliffe is actually running behind where Obama was at in 2012 in pretty much all the Dem counties.

If it wasn't for the faux-Libertarian, Democrat-funded plant Sarvis, Cuccinelli would be running away with this.

Which tells me two things:

1) This is not an actual "win" for the Dems in the sense of receiving any kind of mandate for their policies and,

2) Social liberals are some of the worst kind of stupid in existence.

Posted by: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus at November 05, 2013 05:18 PM (U+vgB)

834 The problem comes when you want to pass laws. Then I mind. You seem pretty high on yourself if you think you can just step in for The Left and start bossing everyone around and giving them New Set of Rules to follow. Except that no one actually wants to do this. But keep pimping that strawman, Ace, it's better than arguing reality.

Posted by: Paul Zummo at November 05, 2013 05:19 PM (Ht99Q)

835 And VA is gone in 2016 now. So Welcome aboard, presnet Hillary.

Fuck you, Virginia. You can't really call yourself "Virginia" anymore, can you?

Your new state name is "Whorenia"

Here's your box of dumbass. Drive through.

Posted by: tangonine at November 05, 2013 05:19 PM (x3YFz)

836 817 Mr Moo Moo,

no...fuck T Mac and fuck Fairfax

Posted by: sven10077 at November 05, 2013 05:19 PM (9jfyN)

837 Still only 82% reporting?

Posted by: Sharon at November 05, 2013 05:19 PM (DtEq4)

838 You know, how, like, Obama and many in his party are actually pretty radical in their desires to remake this country? Yeah, so, they don't talk about this because they're smart enough to realize it isn't very popular. So they get elected, act, but don't talk out loud.

Get the idea? Your idea might be right, might be justified and for the best of the nation. But shouting it from the rooftops will never help you, nor will it put you in a position to implement it until you wise up.

Posted by: Uriah Heep at November 05, 2013 09:15 PM (jhI6f)

Can I cc this to Tea Party Patriots and Heritage Action?

Posted by: CausticConservative at November 05, 2013 05:19 PM (gT3jF)

839 If my choice is only between who will be Nannying me, I say fuck everyone, and let it all burn. Posted by: ace at November 05, 2013 09:14 PM (/FnUH) AHA! It....lives!

Posted by: Meremortal, Low Info Mofo at November 05, 2013 05:19 PM (1Y+hH)

840 I have a fever (literally) and can't follow who ace is pissed at right now.

Anyone?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 05, 2013 05:19 PM (lVPtV)

841 I no more wish to be Nannied to Death by Obama and Bloomberg than by the church ladies.

If my choice is only between who will be Nannying me, I say fuck everyone, and let it all burn.

Posted by: ace at November 05, 2013 09:14 PM (/FnUH)

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I don't want to nanny you. I've raised my own children and have no intention of raising you. Yet you are determined to see it that way no matter what anyone says to you. Show me one time - one time - that I have ever attempted to tell others what to do with their personal lives. You can't. Because I don't do that.

Whatever you are pissed at, whoever you are pissed at, it isn't because of anything I've ever done or said in the political arena. It's in your imagination, and as has often been said, you can't reason a person out of a notion that he didn't reason himself into.

Posted by: mama winger at November 05, 2013 05:20 PM (P6QsQ)

842 "OMGZ the GOP wants to ban sex" line. I understand that most conservatives are, well, conservative, and don't talk about sex and the like in public. But at some point, we've got to fight back against this crap. ___ Look at those conservatives with like 6 kids! They must hate sex!!!`

Posted by: Liberals at November 05, 2013 05:20 PM (uUvS8)

843 Losing about .1 percent lead per 1% of votes coming in.

Posted by: Boss Moss the Redskin Savage at November 05, 2013 05:20 PM (Kud5A)

844 Fairfax pretty much seals it up for McA. However the result is tighter than it was predicted to come out.

Posted by: Kaitian at November 05, 2013 05:20 PM (AFTTf)

845 maybe VA can give Fairfax to MD?

Posted by: thunderb at November 05, 2013 05:20 PM (zOTsN)

846 And therefore it is a categorical error to blame his loss on something he did not do. Posted by: Flatbush ----------------- Now you're just screwing with the narrative..., including the one entertained by some here.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 05, 2013 05:20 PM (aDwsi)

847 Just went to NY Slime, Fairfax only has 55% reporting. We are fucked. McT is leading by 20% in the county.

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 05, 2013 05:20 PM (0FSuD)

848 837 I have a fever (literally) and can't follow who ace is pissed at right now. Anyone? Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 05, 2013 09:19 PM (lVPtV) The religious apparently. I dunno. *shrug*

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 05, 2013 05:20 PM (GEICT)

849 Hey, Paul: >>>xcept that no one actually wants to do this. But keep pimping that strawman, Ace, it's better than arguing reality. compare with what he said to me: >>>And some people are hypersensitive about the shitty way that they live their lives and are butthurt whenever someone suggests that their chosen lifestyle is less than 100% awesome. so yes there does seem to be some desire for Nannying. And I know he spoke only of "suggesting," but this entire discussion is about Cuccinelli's BILL, which was not intended as as 'suggestion," but as a LAW.

Posted by: ace at November 05, 2013 05:21 PM (/FnUH)

850 Ace -

Which one is "backwards ass" or "faux-judgmental"?

We shouldn't fuck everyone we like to? We shouldn't embrace homosexuality? We shouldn't just sit there praising and accepting every goddamn perversion that comes down the pike?

I'm sorry, but yes, "my God" tells me that these things are wrong. My gut tells me that too, when I see the consequences.

Posted by: WolfinNC at November 05, 2013 05:21 PM (Vvg+J)

851 Right on cue: STATUS CANDIDATES Ken Cuccinelli 47% Terry McAuliffe 46% Robert Sarvis 7% Est. 84% in Dang I can do trendlines in my head well. will pas at 85% -- just as predicted

Posted by: zombie at November 05, 2013 05:21 PM (+cx5n)

852 686. Sigh, this.

Posted by: Puttanesca, the sauce at November 05, 2013 05:21 PM (1ThpN)

853

I have a fever (literally) and can't follow who ace is pissed at right now.

Anyone?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 05, 2013 09:19 PM (lVPtV)

------------------

He's doing that thing where he's swinging at everybody, like your drunk ass friend on New Year's Eve.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at November 05, 2013 05:21 PM (JDIKC)

854 >>And some people are hypersensitive about the shitty way that they live their lives and are butthurt whenever someone suggests that their chosen lifestyle is less than 100% awesome. Sounds like an ad for Obamacare.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 05, 2013 05:21 PM (g1DWB)

855 maybe VA can give Fairfax to MD?

Posted by: thunderb at November 05, 2013 09:20 PM (zOTsN)

No thanks. Our liberal asshole quota is all full...

Posted by: Timon at November 05, 2013 05:21 PM (S7hY/)

856 829 Did the mil absentee ballots go out on time?

Posted by: Purp at November 05, 2013 09:18 PM (fZ2Zr)

LOL!

----Jane Doh's son who went in person to fill out his absentee application and never got it, after having served in A-Stan.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 05, 2013 05:21 PM (lVPtV)

857 >>When was the last time you saw a "nannying" church lady?<<

In my experience, the churchiest ladies are the most un-nanny. The ones I know are the most compassionate, forgiving, and non-judgemental

Posted by: Albie Damned at November 05, 2013 05:22 PM (Yhu4q)

858 How about I delete all the comments and everyone gets a mulligan?

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at November 05, 2013 05:22 PM (fZ2Zr)

859 839 Liberals,

yup...they just rutted once every other year...

Posted by: sven10077 at November 05, 2013 05:22 PM (9jfyN)

860 Mind? I'm sure deBlasio won't nanny anyone......snort.

Posted by: dagny at November 05, 2013 05:22 PM (Wsv8z)

861 Down to .4 with 85%.

Posted by: Boss Moss the Redskin Savage at November 05, 2013 05:22 PM (Kud5A)

862

@ 820 - "Oh right God wants you to. I forgot. So I should prefer these rules over the left's."

Ace, this is about ten different ways stupid. It really is.

But thanks to retards who think this way, and who weren't smart enough to figure out that Sarvis is a Dem plant (note the correlation in low-intelligence decisions there), VA is going to get stuck with a whole mess of ObamaCare, higher taxes, less jobs, and so on.

All because of idiots who still think that the "Religious Right" believes God told them to take away your rubbers. Good grief.

Posted by: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus at November 05, 2013 05:22 PM (U+vgB)

863 After we rid the Repub of all the elected official who are banning birth control pills we can then get rid of that stuffy John Lithgow and finally bring dancing and rock n roll to Beaumont! Everybody cut Footloose!

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 05, 2013 05:22 PM (ZPrif)

864 unFairfax county is occupied by asshole DC douches.

Game's over.

Posted by: tangonine at November 05, 2013 05:22 PM (x3YFz)

865 no...fuck T Mac and fuck Fairfax Posted by: sven10077 at November 05, 2013 09:19 PM (9jfyN) ______ Plenty of fucking for all But seriously, No Sarvis = KC win. So fuck him and the dolts who voted for him.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 05, 2013 05:22 PM (8Mwgu)

866 So conservatives only hope is to somehow convince superstitious bohunk LIV Millenial sheep that us tampon stealing , Birth control-hating, old people medicine-eating, Kid-starving, racist, homophobic, Bible-thumping Repugnicans are actually cool with infanticide.

#gopwinning

Posted by: noone, really at November 05, 2013 05:22 PM (5ikDv)

867 >>>I don't want to nanny you. I've raised my own children and have no intention of raising you. Yet you are determined to see it that way no matter what anyone says to you. Show me one time - one time - that I have ever attempted to tell others what to do with their personal lives. You can't. Because I don't do that. the entire argument here is over whether GOP candidates should be pushing a novel and newfangled way to show their pro-life zeal -- specifically, writing bills in such a way to also ban birth control pills. if you think I'm in the wrong, and will quit the party over that, then I would imagine this is pretty important to you. If not, then why are you arguing with me about it?

Posted by: ace at November 05, 2013 05:23 PM (/FnUH)

868 It's better we know now that Virginia is not in play than figuring out the resources were wasted on Election Night 2016, otherwise known as my oblivion-soaked 45th birthday.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at November 05, 2013 05:23 PM (hcHS/)

869 -He's doing that thing where he's swinging at everybody, like your drunk ass friend on New Year's Eve.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at November 05, 2013 09:21 PM (JDIKC)

Thanks. *scrawls unintelligible note on piece of toilet paper*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 05, 2013 05:23 PM (lVPtV)

870 He's doing that thing where he's swinging at everybody, like your drunk ass friend ~~on New Year's Eve.~~ Posted by: Empire of Jeff at November 05, 2013 09:21 PM (JDIKC) Fixed for those of us who are Irish. We don't reserve it for special occasions.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 05, 2013 05:23 PM (GEICT)

871 If my choice is only between who will be Nannying me, I say fuck everyone, and let it all burn.

Posted by: ace at November 05, 2013 09:14 PM (/FnUH)

**********************************

Understandable. But it's not going to burn - it's going to smolder slowly for decades. And if you think the Leftist nannies are the lesser evil I'm not sure why. The So-Cons are not the ones rigging elections or getting their way through regulatory agencies, etc. The more "extreme" Right-wing policies will never be federal law, ever. Federalism may allow a few states to go against your view, but there would be plenty more that would not. You'd still have choice. On the other hand, the Left is the group that would (based on history) happily put you in a death camp for disagreeing with them, and they WILL get their agenda made into federal law by fair means or foul. If they can't use the democratic process, they'll just use the courts or the regulatory bureaucracies. And there will be no escape save via emigration. Which some of us have already accepted and are prepping for.

Posted by: Reactionary at November 05, 2013 05:23 PM (jfeoD)

872 How about I delete all the comments and everyone gets a mulligan? Posted by: Purp ---------------------- Press 'Reset'

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 05, 2013 05:23 PM (aDwsi)

873 CAC is fucking horrible at this shit.

Posted by: WOW at November 05, 2013 05:23 PM (6j8ke)

874

now it begins

be gentle

Posted by: thunderb at November 05, 2013 05:23 PM (zOTsN)

875 Actually there is a huge difference between nannying church ladies and nannying govts. Church ladies can tut-tut but if you aren't a member you can shoot them the bird. They don't have near the votes to get anything done. Nanny states on the other hand, have enforcement mechanisms.

Posted by: Meremortal, Low Info Mofo at November 05, 2013 05:23 PM (1Y+hH)

876 Best spin yet: GOP + Libertarian candidate COMBINED beat the Dem. Overall, I'd say that's a pretty shiny silver lining.

Posted by: zombie at November 05, 2013 05:23 PM (+cx5n)

877 84% thar she blows. Good luck, VA!

Posted by: ChristyBlinky hates elections at November 05, 2013 05:23 PM (baL2B)

878 C still ahead by 11,400 on the networks; the networks have counted more votes than the state. Obenshain's chances look good, but not enough to call him a winner yet.

Posted by: the Count at November 05, 2013 05:23 PM (nLIMC)

879 Well, at least VA can now get them some electric car manufacturing. What, oh, never mind.

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 05, 2013 05:23 PM (0FSuD)

880 @852

yeah; we can ditch "Sic Semper Tyranus" for "Hey, at least we aren't Maryland...yet"

Posted by: Pete at November 05, 2013 05:24 PM (TiZlI)

881 Doesn't it always seem that in a close race the Democrat surges late?

Posted by: steevy at November 05, 2013 05:24 PM (zqvg6)

882 okay, I can't take it anymore.

Posted by: Sharon at November 05, 2013 05:24 PM (DtEq4)

883 Megan Kelly just called it for Terry Mac

Posted by: fixerupper at November 05, 2013 05:24 PM (IrLKP)

884 its over

Posted by: Kawfytawk at November 05, 2013 05:24 PM (EY4Et)

885 724 Well, I can at least report that my wife voted today for the first time (just became a citizen) and voted straight GOP. Posted by: Pete at November 05, 2013 09:03 PM (TiZlI) _____ So you married a racist redneck wacko Bird?

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 05, 2013 05:24 PM (8Mwgu)

886 Fairfax County - Possible Outcome 99031.72826 C 153830.2717 M 54798.54348 Mc Lead over C 1658.543478 Increase/Decrease Fairfax keeps increasing and fucking over the state more.

Posted by: Kaitian at November 05, 2013 05:24 PM (AFTTf)

887 Reactionary - Well said, I believe.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 05, 2013 05:24 PM (aDwsi)

888 Y'all still here? What happens if neither Cooch or Mac get 50%, does the "winner" still win or do they have to engage in more kabuki theater?

Posted by: Peaches at November 05, 2013 05:24 PM (8lmkt)

889 857 Dagny,

hey electing a legit commie means "libertarian"

Posted by: sven10077 at November 05, 2013 05:24 PM (9jfyN)

890

So conservatives only hope is to somehow convince superstitious bohunk LIV Millenial sheep that us tampon stealing , Birth control-hating, old people medicine-eating, Kid-starving, racist, homophobic, Bible-thumping Repugnicans are actually cool with infanticide.

-----------------------

That's why I cut all the strings on the tampons in THIS house. Mitt Romney's not getting his greasy Mormon hooks in my woman's delicates.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at November 05, 2013 05:24 PM (JDIKC)

891 869 How about I delete all the comments and everyone gets a mulligan? Posted by: Purp ---------------------- Press 'Reset' Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 05, 2013 09:23 PM (aDwsi) Don't do it till we get to 1,000!

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 05, 2013 05:24 PM (0FSuD)

892 Congrats, VA! You fucking worthless fucks.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 05, 2013 05:24 PM (lVPtV)

893 792Â Say, how did Cuccinelli win as AG 5 years ago with this on his record?Â Umm, maybe after he got elected, he made a record?

Posted by: shredded chi at November 05, 2013 05:25 PM (0IDyD)

894 At the local level in VA, at least it looks like Kathleen Murphy, the Hillary-clone delegate candidate who received national attention for saying doctors should be forced to accept Medicare and Medicaid patients, is losing. That race was close for a while.

Posted by: Hoplite Housewife at November 05, 2013 05:25 PM (qtKqj)

895 Ken Cuccinelli 46.8%
Terry McAuliffe 46.4%
Est. 85% in

Looks like he'll hold out a little longer than 85%

Posted by: RayJ at November 05, 2013 05:25 PM (pI/IV)

896 EXACT DEAD HEAT: VA Precincts Reporting: 88%... CUCCINELLI 46.51% MCAULIFFE 46.48%

Posted by: zombie at November 05, 2013 05:25 PM (+cx5n)

897 847 But you want to be hip, don't you? You can then pretend just to have "ideological" differences with the left. That's "cool". Actually being grossed out by them won't get you into the right clubs or get you laid, which is really the goal, right? It's like the cocktail circuit for the media, shut-up and play along and for god's sake don't look like you have anything but relative morality.

Posted by: dagny at November 05, 2013 05:25 PM (Wsv8z)

898 Here I was trying to think up a smart ass comment, and EoJj shatters all hope of ever beating his. Asshole

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 05, 2013 05:25 PM (HcoQw)

899 So, he lasted until 88% of precincts reporting -- not bad -- not bad at all!

Posted by: zombie at November 05, 2013 05:25 PM (+cx5n)

900 You see Ace, this is the problem - you operate under the assumption that conservatives are of the same mindset as leftists. Yes, when leftists disapprove of something, they seek to ban it. When conservatives disapprove of something, generally speaking they seek to change minds but do not necessarily seek to change the law. Oh sure, there are exceptions - like not wanting it to be legal to kill unborn children. But generally, though we'll wag some fingers and express our disapproval, we understand the folly of statism. So I think you're conflating disapproval with a desire to legislate.

Posted by: Paul Zummo at November 05, 2013 05:25 PM (Ht99Q)

901 >>Press 'Reset'

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 05, 2013 09:23 PM (aDwsi)

I know how to say that in Russian!!

Posted by: Hitlery Clintoon at November 05, 2013 05:26 PM (Yhu4q)

902 Congrats, VA! You fucking worthless fucks.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 05, 2013 09:24 PM (lVPtV)

You are my kinda gal, Jane. Always have been but that comment right there made me want to buy you a cocktail!

Posted by: Peaches at November 05, 2013 05:26 PM (8lmkt)

903 Enjoy your Obamacare toothy, meat-eating ass gerbils, VA!

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 05, 2013 05:26 PM (lVPtV)

904 And I still don't have a tenant for my house in Hampton Roads.

If my agent makes any kind of pro-McAuliffe comment to me, I'll fire her on the spot.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at November 05, 2013 05:26 PM (hcHS/)

905 The only good news I have tonight is it looks like Amendment 66 ($1B tax hike to subsidize teachers unions) got wtfpwnt here in CO. And the tax hike on pot growers passed.

So we'll take a win where we can get it.

Posted by: tangonine at November 05, 2013 05:26 PM (x3YFz)

906 Socons who demand abortion purity tests are as much to blame as libs who believe Republicans want to ban sex.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 05, 2013 05:26 PM (8Mwgu)

907 807 >>> I hope all you guys who can't wait to throw the socons out of the party brush up on your election skills.

Like, manning the phones in the weeks running up to the elections. Like calling everyone on the voter rolls. Like transporting the old folks to the polling stations. Like being election judges and observers. Like going door to door with literature. Like all that ground game stuff.

Because who do you think has been carrying a large chunk of that work? Oh yeah. The church ladies.

I should know, I've done it for more years than some of you have been eligible to vote.

Not any more. You better brush up on your skills.
------------------------

.. Yea, because more door knockers and phone calls are going to change people's position on rape and abortion.

Look, you had your shot, a "pure" Social Conservative and the Democrat opponent was covered in sleaze no less. But you still lost, even with all your mythical manpower from the grass roots that's supposedly so decisive. It doesn't win elections. period.

Also, nobody is saying pro-lifers need to leave, what people like me are saying is the SoCon RETARDS need to leave (ie people messing with birth control pills and no rape exception for abortion, etc)

I'm fine with this wing leaving as it's costing us more votes than it's bringing in.

Posted by: Jeepers at November 05, 2013 05:26 PM (XDRsa)

908 88% .3 Ki.

Posted by: Boss Moss the Redskin Savage at November 05, 2013 05:26 PM (Kud5A)

909 Doesn't it always seem that in a close race the Democrat surges late?

Ballots turned in with ink still wet are suspicious. They gotta take some time and let'em dry first.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at November 05, 2013 05:26 PM (fZ2Zr)

910 Dead heat and everybody calls it for the Dem.

Posted by: steevy at November 05, 2013 05:26 PM (zqvg6)

911

so to win VA

you only have to win statist federal worker laden company town Fairfax county

Posted by: thunderb at November 05, 2013 05:27 PM (zOTsN)

912 Well, at least VA can now get them some electric car manufacturing. What, oh, never mind. Posted by: Nip Sip ------------------ A joke, I know, about McAuliffe, but as an aside: Tesla loses 12% http://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory/tesla-shares-drop-3q-falls-short-20794863

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 05, 2013 05:27 PM (aDwsi)

913 You are my kinda gal, Jane. Always have been but that comment right there made me want to buy you a cocktail!

Posted by: Peaches at November 05, 2013 09:26 PM (8lmkt)

Thanks, hon. I'm sick as fuck so not drinking, but I've got some weird fever "high."

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 05, 2013 05:27 PM (lVPtV)

914 >>>All because of idiots who still think that the "Religious Right" believes God told them to take away your rubbers. Good grief. it's not idiotic to believe a law which says Life begins at Fertilization -- NO EXCEPTIONS (even for the normal, unplanned but statistically likely action of birth control pills) really means Life begins at Fertilization-- NO EXCEPTIONS (even for the normal, unplanned but statistically likely action of birth control pills). You guys just seem to want to make Big Statements like this and then when people say "Hey, that sound extreme," you want to say "Oh we didn't mean that." Well then stop making these Big Statements. I assume people are reasonably intelligent until they prove otherwise. So yes, when you say things like this -- or seem to support Cuccinelli's bill, which says this -- then I take you at your word, and frankly doubt your later protestations of, "Oh, that didn't mean anything at all. We were just kidding." I got this SAME CRAP in defense of Santorum, who specifically STATED, on AUDIO, that he wanted to have a national discussion over birth control. Same sort of people rushed in to say "He didn't mean what he said when he said what he obviously meant." Why don't you guys figure out what you stand for, get one single story, and come back to me when you have it figured out?

Posted by: ace at November 05, 2013 05:27 PM (/FnUH)

915 Enjoy your Obamacare toothy, meat-eating ass gerbils, VA!

Actually, the toothy, meat-eating ass gerbils come with every Silver Plan.

Posted by: Barack Obama at November 05, 2013 05:28 PM (vgH+s)

916 Listen, people: Robert Sarvis took more votes from Terry MacAuliffe than Ken Cuccinelli.

You need to get your heads around that. It's true. The exits show it pretty clearly. Yes, he took from both, but more from Terry Mac.

The fact is, had Sarvis not been on the ballot, MacAuliffe would have won by a wider margin than he is tonight.

Posted by: Jeff B. at November 05, 2013 05:28 PM (n/+FT)

917 Megan Kelly is a toolbag Posted by: FUBAR ---------------- Maybe..., but..., um..., a tasty tool bag.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 05, 2013 05:28 PM (aDwsi)

918 "Hi my name is Fairfax County, Virginia. Do you like your state? Don't worry, we'll be gentle. Oh look, we're out of lubricant. This may be rough instead."

Posted by: Kaitian at November 05, 2013 05:28 PM (AFTTf)

919 >>Backwards assed, faux-righteous opinion. Forward!

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 05, 2013 05:28 PM (HcoQw)

920 907 Dead heat and everybody calls it for the Dem.

Posted by: steevy at November 05, 2013 09:26 PM (zqvg6)

Yeah. Heaven forbid they wait until it is over to burst my sliver of hope. Oh, well.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky hates elections at November 05, 2013 05:28 PM (baL2B)

921 If not, then why are you arguing with me about it?

Posted by: ace at November 05, 2013 09:23 PM (/FnUH)

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Not one of my comments were directed at you until you accused church ladies of wanting to nanny you.

Listen, I am sorry if I got heated. I apologize. It's very disheartening to have worked on nearly every election since Reagan and be told that your service is no longer welcome, necessary, and is in fact part of what's destroying the party.

I felt defensive for myself and all the other fine people, many who are, yes, church ladies, who have been doing this a long long time.

I hope you young people don;t toss all that away lightly.

Posted by: mama winger at November 05, 2013 05:28 PM (P6QsQ)

922 This is what happened in mass when the 3rd party candidate got in and fucked over the republican and we ended up with Deval Patrick for a second term. Now we have a gas tax that will go up with inflation so the legislature doesn't have to vote for new taxes.
the Dems are just better players. This will be a great strategy in 2016 of they can get a 3rd party candidate to run.

Posted by: Sharon at November 05, 2013 05:28 PM (DtEq4)

923 I could give a shit less about your backwards-ass, faux-righteous judgmental opinion. . . . Oh right God wants you to. I forgot.

It's not about God, ace. It's about thousands of years of trial-and-painful-error, West and East.

Societies do well when their citizens believe in a common purpose. When the society's elites figure that they can do without a core set of standards, the whole society picks up on that. And then the society gets rotted out from the inside.

You're probably right that America's electorate is too far gone for a platform like one which Reagan ran on. If that's the case, though, your ire shouldn't be aimed at the Conservatives. The Conservatives at least stand a chance of developing institutions which bypass this government.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo, naturalised '94 at November 05, 2013 05:28 PM (d7tB2)

924 Hey, Megyn, the vets and military HATE THE FUCK out of their wispy CiC.

Just so you know.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 05, 2013 05:29 PM (lVPtV)

925 >>>ou see Ace, this is the problem - you operate under the assumption that conservatives are of the same mindset as leftists. Yes, when leftists disapprove of something, they seek to ban it. When conservatives disapprove of something, generally speaking they seek to change minds but do not necessarily seek to change the law. and we are speaking here of Cuccinelli's bill which was intended to become LAW, but did not get the votes.

Posted by: ace at November 05, 2013 05:29 PM (/FnUH)

926 toothy, meat-eating ass gerbils

I saw those guys open for Offspring in '98.

Posted by: Armando at November 05, 2013 05:29 PM (vgH+s)

927 Even if you believe that all life is precious and there should be no exception to abortion.....65%+ of the population disagrees. This is a losing position. That's all there is to it.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 05, 2013 05:30 PM (8Mwgu)

928 He lost because he was outspent 25-1. Period.

Posted by: dagny at November 05, 2013 05:30 PM (Wsv8z)

929

Posted by: CausticConservative at November 05, 2013 05:30 PM (gT3jF)

930 Recount?

Posted by: FUBAR at November 05, 2013 05:30 PM (Cs2tJ)

931 Ballots turned in with ink still wet are suspicious. They gotta take some time and let'em dry first. Posted by: Purp -------------------------- Tip O'Neill would put out calls to the precincts, telling them how many more votes they needed to 'deliver'.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 05, 2013 05:31 PM (aDwsi)

932 921 Hey, Megyn, the vets and military HATE THE FUCK out of their wispy CiC. Just so you know. Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 05, 2013 09:29 PM (lVPtV) Why do you think Obama is trying to purge the ranks?

Posted by: Kaitian at November 05, 2013 05:31 PM (AFTTf)

933 crap. despite my criticism of Cucc, I think he's a serious guy and would have been a good governor.

Posted by: ace at November 05, 2013 05:31 PM (/FnUH)

934 @890 He was AG after he was in VA legislature. He had voted for personhood then. He won statewide.

Posted by: blaster at November 05, 2013 05:31 PM (4+AaH)

935 908 thunderb,

correct...get govt scratch vote d ruin more gop employment with your day job vote yourself a check...anally rape the golden goose in your day job vote drinse and repeat....

Posted by: sven10077 at November 05, 2013 05:31 PM (9jfyN)

936 What if you are disinclined to pay for them? I think that THIS should be the issue. It should be a conscience issue. Not weather or not abortion or birth controll is legal or illgal. The only way to prevent an abortion is to council the woman involved. I understand that making it legal gives it social and some sort of moral sanction. Just don't pay for it and for Pete's sake dont make me pay to promote it!

Posted by: Deety at November 05, 2013 05:31 PM (DN2Ge)

937 McC vastly under-performed in Williamsburg. Wonder why. (not)

Posted by: Voltaire's Crack at November 05, 2013 05:31 PM (gXtDC)

938

@ 904 - "I'm fine with this wing leaving as it's costing us more votes than it's bringing in."

I'd rather place blame where it belongs - on the social liberals who are voting for Sarvis because of abortion instead of voting for Cuccinelli because of ObamaCare, jobs, taxes, and the rest.

If you're too stupid to vote for jobs, then you're too stupid to vote, period.

Posted by: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus at November 05, 2013 05:31 PM (U+vgB)

939 Well everyone is saying that Virginia has now turned very blue Hilliary will be a shoo in for president? Not sure how that breaks down, but it seems to me the Democrats cannot be beaten. They win all elections now. They have some way to get enough money and enough propaganda out there to maintain power. Do you guys believe we will never win another presidential election? I know this sounds defeated, but how bad can things get--and yet they still get elected over and over!

Posted by: AnnaS at November 05, 2013 05:31 PM (zEeUf)

940

I'm about to go make me a baby if you Goddamn RINOs don't shut the hell up.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at November 05, 2013 05:31 PM (JDIKC)

941 @925

You are correct. NoVa TV was carpet bombed with McA ads. If cooch had run a couple calling out some of the lies in the McA commercials, might have swayed enough votes.

Posted by: Pete at November 05, 2013 05:32 PM (TiZlI)

942 He lost because he was outspent 25-1. Period. Posted by: dagny ---------------------- That's my take. Why folks are eager to blame the nature of the campaign is beyond me.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 05, 2013 05:32 PM (aDwsi)

943 925 He lost because he was outspent 25-1. Period.

Posted by: dagny at November 05, 2013 09:30 PM (Wsv8z)

That. And people are stupid.

Posted by: tangonine at November 05, 2013 05:32 PM (x3YFz)

944 You need to get your heads around that. It's true. The exits show it pretty clearly. Yes, he took from both, but more from Terry Mac. Posted by: Jeff B. at November 05, 2013 09:28 PM (n/+FT) _________ Link?

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 05, 2013 05:32 PM (8Mwgu)

945 The ballot security in "urban" areas is fucking scary. I worked a security detail after the last election at a black school. They had Obama posters in the polling area. The chief judge refused to give us the print out of the votes after the polls closed. Former election's board chairman was with me. We call the elections HQ and the head of the Board, a democrat, told the women she had to give us the print out. She still refused. He told her he was going to send cops over if she didn't give us the print out. She did. We were racist for asking for the print outs. Rules don't apply to them.

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 05, 2013 05:32 PM (0FSuD)

946 Not ethis interesting stat at the NY Time results page: Final polls on the race: McAuliffe 45% Cuccinelli 38% Actual result as of now: McAuliffe 46% Cuccinelli 46% Takeaway: The polls were biased 8% against the Republican.

Posted by: zombie at November 05, 2013 05:32 PM (+cx5n)

947 On the bright side, I think this is a new record. AOSHQ had the right call over two hours ago.

Posted by: CAC at November 05, 2013 05:32 PM (ILb/3)

948 >>>Societies do well when their citizens believe in a common purpose. When the society's elites figure that they can do without a core set of standards, the whole society picks up on that. i don't think i believe this. I think a common purpose is creepy. I don't want to be a cell in a greater corporate organism. as for "core set of standards," I suppose. But common purpose? Fuck that. Well, definite it loosely enough -- I want a law-abiding society in which I am free to pursue my own purposes -- and I suppose it's true.

Posted by: ace at November 05, 2013 05:33 PM (/FnUH)

949

next up

McAuliffe declaring Mandate!!

Posted by: thunderb at November 05, 2013 05:33 PM (zOTsN)

950 Sarvis only got the pot head vote. It's non-partisan.

Posted by: dagny at November 05, 2013 05:33 PM (Wsv8z)

951 So you Colorado Morons: we're crushing A66 by 30 points.

So at least you won't wake up tomorrow to 2x property tax.

Posted by: tangonine at November 05, 2013 05:33 PM (x3YFz)

952 the urbanization of the country is working against us, folks.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at November 05, 2013 05:33 PM (l3vZN)

953 914 Megan Kelly is a toolbag Posted by: FUBAR ---------------- Maybe..., but..., um..., a tasty tool bag. Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 05, 2013 09:28 PM (aDwsi) She could be my "socket" wrench any day.

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 05, 2013 05:33 PM (0FSuD)

954 Also note the Sarvis vote is roughly the spread between McAullife and his LT governor. Sarvis is not the problem.

Posted by: blaster at November 05, 2013 05:34 PM (4+AaH)

955

@ 913 - "The exits show it pretty clearly."

Comparing tonight's results with the historical data from 2012 says exactly the opposite.

But then again, we all know how accurate exit polling has proven itself to be, so you must be right.

Posted by: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus at November 05, 2013 05:34 PM (U+vgB)

956 929 ace,

eh who cares?

the important thing is Bolling was vindicated.....

Hillary 2016! Why not?

Posted by: sven10077 at November 05, 2013 05:34 PM (9jfyN)

957 91% .4 Mc.

Posted by: Boss Moss the Redskin Savage at November 05, 2013 05:34 PM (Kud5A)

958 New update as of 30 seconds ago: Precincts Reporting: 91%. MCAULIFFE 46.71% CUCCINELLI 46.31% Only 9% of the vote left to be counted, and it is still within a hair's breadth. Actually, that's pretty amazing, considering.

Posted by: zombie at November 05, 2013 05:34 PM (+cx5n)

959 The argument isn't whether Cucc should have run a so-con campaign. The argument is whether he did. And he didn't. So it would be unwise to draw lessons from something that didn't happen. You can draw lessons from the effectiveness of the Dem's smear campaign that lied about his campaign. And that lesson would probably be what you want, that it would be unwise and a political loser to run a hardcore so-con campaign in Virginia in 2013. But Cucc already knew that, which is why he didn't do that.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 05, 2013 05:34 PM (ZPrif)

960 936
I'm about to go make me a baby if you Goddamn RINOs don't shut the hell up.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at November 05, 2013 09:31 PM (JDIKC)

Not that it would make me hot or anything, but could you post the sound of your headboard banging?

*waits, fans self*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 05, 2013 05:34 PM (lVPtV)

961 There's a more recent take on an old racing truism. The truism : You can't beat cubic inches The new take : You can't beat cubic money.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 05, 2013 05:35 PM (aDwsi)

962 Do you guys believe we will never win another presidential election? I know this sounds defeated, but how bad can things get--and yet they still get elected over and over! Posted by: AnnaS at November 05, 2013 09:31 PM (zEeUf) _________________ I don't think we will see another GOP president ever again. The GOP doesn't know how to play the game. The Dems will lie, cheat and steal for every vote. The GOP....well, you know what they do.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 05, 2013 05:35 PM (8Mwgu)

963 The polls were biased 8% against the Republican.

The Washpost poll was completely fake but that lost Cucc tons of money. Thanks lying dirtbags.

Posted by: dagny at November 05, 2013 05:35 PM (Wsv8z)

964 Wish I had just turned off the computer when I read CAC's prediction instead of putting myself through this.

Posted by: Sharon at November 05, 2013 05:35 PM (DtEq4)

965 The idea that it was Cucc personally would is dragging down the vote here is just silly.

If they want to turn VA RED for the 2016 Presidential election they should be recruiting a Libertarian candidate right now because it's costing McAuliffe big time tonight.

Posted by: Rocks at November 05, 2013 05:35 PM (vR0sZ)

966 My god. The country is burning to the fucking ground were arguing about abortions which may or may not actually happen.. And if you are concerned that they might actually happen, then you're the reason the country is burning to the fucking ground. Situational awareness. How the fuck does it work?

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 05, 2013 05:35 PM (HcoQw)

967

they were voting for jobs

their own

Fairfax is stuffed with state and federal workers

they will not vote for smaller government

I don't believe this had very much to do with vaginal issues

Posted by: thunderb at November 05, 2013 05:35 PM (zOTsN)

968 That. And people are stupid. Posted by: tangonine at November 05, 2013 09:32 PM (x3YFz) Most assuredly this. Most fucking assuredly.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 05, 2013 05:35 PM (GEICT)

969 That CNN poll was dead on at 47-45.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 05, 2013 05:36 PM (8Mwgu)

970 925. This

Posted by: Puttanesca, the sauce at November 05, 2013 05:36 PM (1ThpN)

971

And with the results in, more kindling is added to America's funeral pyre.

It Will Burn. Embrace the flames. Bring your canned goods and blond wimmen. Join my Death's Head legions and remake the charred ruins of America in my image.

Follow me on Twitter!

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at November 05, 2013 05:36 PM (JDIKC)

972 What kind of idiot votes for a 4% meals tax for themselves.

Posted by: Boss Moss the Redskin Savage at November 05, 2013 05:36 PM (Kud5A)

973 I don't think we will see another GOP president ever again. The GOP doesn't know how to play the game. The Dems will lie, cheat and steal for every vote. The GOP....well, you know what they do.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 05, 2013 09:35 PM (8Mwgu)

Torches + Pitchforks = Problem Solved, Problem Staying Solved.

Posted by: tangonine at November 05, 2013 05:36 PM (x3YFz)

974 911 -

Wow, I came here looking for election results, and instead got this?

Ace, you are remembering wrong. You got bent out of shape about Santorum saying he wanted to talk about it. You insisted that meant he wanted to outlaw it.

Not the same thing.

You were being irrational, just as you are now by insisting on putting words in other people's mouths, when you are clearly distorting what was said.

This is not an issue you should be discussing if you can't be honest with yourself about it, let alone the rest of us.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 05, 2013 05:36 PM (BeSEI)

975 This country is fucked. Completely.

Ben Franklin was right.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 05, 2013 05:36 PM (lVPtV)

976 the GOP will not get one more penny out of me.....fuck the rinos

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at November 05, 2013 05:36 PM (8JJ6O)

977 >>You're probably right that America's electorate is too far gone for a platform like one which Reagan ran on. If that's the case, though, your ire shouldn't be aimed at the Conservatives. The Conservatives at least stand a chance of developing institutions which bypass this government. One of the more irritating things is this constant claiming of the conservative mantel for whatever any given person defines as conservative. Nobody is more fiscally conservative than I am. I'm not as socially conservative as some, I don't support gay marriage, don't believe in most abortion but most of all I don't think most social issues have any business in politics. I would argue that makes me more socially conservative than those who want to pass all kinds of laws restricting personal freedom but who cares? For the most part we are all on the same team. We want smaller, less intrusive government. We want to be left alone and taxed less. We want our federal government to do what the Constitution says it should do and nothing more. So why are we always fighting about issues outside the core of what we all agree on? Thats why we are getting beaten. We get on these stupid tangents about friggin birth control pills while the liberal laugh and win and do whatever they want. Until we get over this dumb intramural war fighting over issues that in reality we will not change without years of work we will continue to lose and bitch at each other. Stupid.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 05, 2013 05:36 PM (g1DWB)

978 Fairfax County - Possible Outcome 98733.29 C 155537.615 M 56804.325 Mc Lead over C 2005.785 Increase/Decrease Dry anal fucking and they aren't using lubricant.

Posted by: Kaitian at November 05, 2013 05:36 PM (AFTTf)

979 Mrs. D'Oh, check yo email woman!

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 05, 2013 05:37 PM (GEICT)

980 Social conservatives caused Obama care. And witches.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 05, 2013 05:37 PM (HcoQw)

981 Do you guys believe we will never win another presidential election? ---------------- We're only an amnesty away from that.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 05, 2013 05:37 PM (aDwsi)

982 936 empire of jeff,

you are in a good country to do it in....

the majority of Canadians grasp electricity is not unicorn generated

Posted by: sven10077 at November 05, 2013 05:37 PM (9jfyN)

983 *waits, fans self* ---- J Dohs kinda hot when she's sick, huh. Thowing bewbs at the Horde and peeping about.

Posted by: fixerupper at November 05, 2013 05:37 PM (IrLKP)

984 We aren't all " worthless fucks" here in VA. I live in Fairfax County. Eff you.

Posted by: LadyS at November 05, 2013 05:37 PM (xlhzQ)

985 Get those comments in, Prup is going to blow the blog up at 1,000!

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 05, 2013 05:38 PM (0FSuD)

986 the urbanization of the country is working against us, folks.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at November 05, 2013 09:33 PM (l3vZN)

*************************************************

This. Doom was assured once the women got the vote and emotional nannyism took over the polity, but the doom is accelerated by the growth of cities. They've always been a means of concentrating and empowering the worst of humanity.

Posted by: Reactionary at November 05, 2013 05:38 PM (jfeoD)

987 Aaaand here it comes ... the dead people, the found ballots, the stuffed ballots, the illegals, the imported reds who vote multiple times, the fake Libertarian hired by an Obama bundler to drain 7%, and on and on and on. Again.

Posted by: Blacksheep at November 05, 2013 05:38 PM (bS6uW)

988 975 Mrs. D'Oh, check yo email woman!

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 05, 2013 09:37 PM (GEICT)

I already did! Fucking Comast Xfinity. *rechecking*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 05, 2013 05:38 PM (lVPtV)

989 >>>My god. The country is burning to the fucking ground were arguing about abortions which may or may not actually happen.. And if you are concerned that they might actually happen, then you're the reason the country is burning to the fucking ground. Situational awareness. How the fuck does it work? ... apparently you don't understand the entire argument. I don't give a fuck, dude. It's your team forcing this ludicrous nonsense on us while the country burns. I'm not the one fucking bringing birth control pills into the debate. Your team is. You want to pretend it's MY side that's over-concerned about birth control pills? Really? The guy saying hey let's stop fucking talking about banning birth control pills, huh?

Posted by: ace at November 05, 2013 05:38 PM (/FnUH)

990 Takeaway from 2013 Va gov election. If you can outspend your opponent 25-1 and lie about his intentions on a hot button social issue ... then do it. If you can use your 25-1 money advantage to swamp his denials with your accusations ... then do that, too.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 05, 2013 05:38 PM (ZPrif)

991 10 comments left till reset!

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 05, 2013 05:39 PM (0FSuD)

992 940 -

As usual, the link is to his fevered melon.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 05, 2013 05:39 PM (BeSEI)

993 955 Even if KC didn't run a So-Con campaign this time, he acted too so-con for a lot of folks' taste in his previous position. It's not (or at least shouldn't be) only about what a pol says when he's running.

Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone at November 05, 2013 05:39 PM (GmTxn)

994 983 Aaaand here it comes ... the dead people, the found ballots, the stuffed ballots, the illegals, the imported reds who vote multiple times, the fake Libertarian hired by an Obama bundler to drain 7%, and on and on and on. Again. Posted by: Blacksheep at November 05, 2013 09:38 PM (bS6uW) yep.....and the GOP won't contest it because cucc is a REFORMER AND THEY DON'T LIKE REFORMERS!!!!!!! lib hot

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at November 05, 2013 05:39 PM (8JJ6O)

995 929Â crap. despite my criticism of Cucc, I think he's a serious guy and would have been a good governor.Â Posted by: ace I'm right there with you. I have my problems with him (and his views), but I actually voted for the man. And Ace, I'm not trying to kiss any ass here, but thanks for the great posting the last few days - especially today. The HQ has been above reproach this week. Almost award winning... Maybe you should go on vacation more often?

Posted by: shredded chi at November 05, 2013 05:39 PM (0IDyD)

996
SHOCK: VA Urban and Black Voters Follow Obama and Democrats Straight Into Hell!

Posted by: noone, really at November 05, 2013 05:39 PM (5ikDv)

997 OH GOD NOT THE RESET

Posted by: Kaitian at November 05, 2013 05:39 PM (AFTTf)

998 Damn. We were this close to banning tampons forever.

Posted by: Boss Moss the Redskin Savage at November 05, 2013 05:39 PM (Kud5A)

999 Where do dead comments go prup?

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 05, 2013 05:40 PM (0FSuD)

1000

Oh, and while we're at it, let's thank the GOP-e and the Bolling wing of the VAGOP as well.

Seriously, it's time to go third party and split the vote and trash the GOP. If the GOP-e wants to play that game, then do it to them, nationwide, every district. At this point, the country is so trashed anywise that it's not like it's going to matter anywise.

Posted by: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus at November 05, 2013 05:40 PM (U+vgB)

1001 Banning tampons? You mean Republicans?

Posted by: Kaitian at November 05, 2013 05:40 PM (AFTTf)

1002 They go poof?

Posted by: Kaitian at November 05, 2013 05:40 PM (AFTTf)

1003 Woohoo?

Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 05, 2013 05:40 PM (kqGWM)

1004 >>>Ace, you are remembering wrong. You got bent out of shape about Santorum saying he wanted to talk about it. You insisted that meant he wanted to outlaw it. Not the same thing. ... Oh, a presidential candidate just wants to talk about it. Oh okay. because I thought presidential candidates were elected to propose and sign laws. Glad your team has its priorities straight.

Posted by: ace at November 05, 2013 05:40 PM (/FnUH)

1005 Reset?

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 05, 2013 05:40 PM (0FSuD)

1006 In 1974, Chris Christie once shook his head no while standing 243 yards from a reporter who was asking a question of a upcoming politician whether they supported Roe v Wade.

Therefore we can only conclude that Chris Christie hates women, and wants to take away birth control.

356 different ads later, the low information democrat can't stop talking about Christie's war on womenz.

Posted by: realityman at November 05, 2013 05:40 PM (Cs9Ps)

1007 So at least you won't wake up tomorrow to 2x property tax. Posted by: tangonine Woohoo!

Posted by: Meremortal, Low Info Mofo at November 05, 2013 05:40 PM (1Y+hH)

1008 980 Lady S,

ma'am Fairfax county has indeed fucked us quite ably.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 05, 2013 05:40 PM (9jfyN)

1009 I'm not the one fucking bringing birth control pills into the debate. Your team is.

They never see it like this, though.

Posted by: Uriah Heep at November 05, 2013 05:41 PM (jhI6f)

1010 Damn. We were this close to banning tampons forever.

---------------

I was hoping to legislate mandatory potlucks. But nooooo

Posted by: mama winger at November 05, 2013 05:41 PM (P6QsQ)

1011 Someone deleted a comment, dammit.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 05, 2013 05:41 PM (kqGWM)

1012 OK no reset? ONT?

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 05, 2013 05:41 PM (0FSuD)

1013 986 That's it. The left here, the Clinton machine, out spent Cucc 25-1 and MADE UP THE WAR ON WOMEN BULLSHIT. The candidate wasn't bad THE MONEY BOUGHT THE LIE.

Money+stupid people= democrats

Posted by: dagny at November 05, 2013 05:41 PM (Wsv8z)

1014 oh noes!!!!! the reformer wants to put us womyns in a big red tent.....eleventy!

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at November 05, 2013 05:41 PM (8JJ6O)

1015 Well Boston and NYC are about to enter death spirals thanks to the election of a "Let the unions loot this fucking place to the ground!" stooge and David Dinkins 2.0 the Red Revolution. At least Boston's election was close as the makers voted against the takers which had massive outside union money and help pouring in. NYC has no excuse for spreading its legs wide to the disease about to be inflicted upon it.

Posted by: BlueFalcon in Boston at November 05, 2013 05:41 PM (KCvsd)

1016 994 Damn. We were this close to banning tampons forever.

Funniest thing I've read today. Or because I'm sick. Or whatever.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 05, 2013 05:41 PM (lVPtV)

1017 Come on Obenshain; hang in there!!

Posted by: Pete at November 05, 2013 05:41 PM (TiZlI)

1018 Keep Your Laws Off My Vagina, SoCONs!

Posted by: GOP Strategery Squad at November 05, 2013 05:41 PM (5ikDv)

1019 The only chance - and it's a slim chance at that - the GOP has to win elections in non-ultra red states, is a fiscal con who doesn't give a fuck about abortion.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 05, 2013 05:41 PM (8Mwgu)

1020 When McAsshole raises taxes across the state, they're going to bitch and wonder why taxes went up and blame Republicans. Then they'll vote in another Democrat and the vicious cycle repeats.

Posted by: Kaitian at November 05, 2013 05:42 PM (AFTTf)

1021 998 :: Posted by: FUBAR at November 05, 2013 09:40 PM (Cs2tJ) --- Yup. Deleted. Bastards.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 05, 2013 05:42 PM (kqGWM)

1022 >>356 different ads later, the low information democrat can't stop talking about Christie's war on womenz. Maybe not. He not only crushed his female opponent in NJ, he won the women vote.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 05, 2013 05:42 PM (g1DWB)

1023 "First thing we do is we kill all the journalists."

Shakespeare, King Henry VI, Part 2, Act 4, Scene 2.

With a slight Moron adjustment.

Posted by: tangonine at November 05, 2013 05:42 PM (x3YFz)

1024 ma'am Fairfax county has indeed fucked us quite ably. Posted by: sven10077 at November 05, 2013 09:40 PM (9jfyN) This is not the Lake Barcroft I grew up in, that's for sure.

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 05, 2013 05:42 PM (0FSuD)

1025 Anyone know how the northern Colorado counties voted regarding succession from the rest of Colorado?

Posted by: Tofer732 at November 05, 2013 05:43 PM (6DkSW)

1026 715 Another thing, the WashPoMacacaTimes has been ON McDonnell for over a year, every single day. How that guy didn't know to have an ethics attorney with him at all times is a mystery. Posted by: dagny at November 05, 2013 09:02 PM (Wsv8z) Sorry, but you don't need an ethics attorney to tell you that as an elected official that "political friends" can't give you over a $100K in "gifts" and/or help pay for your daughter's wedding.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at November 05, 2013 05:43 PM (BXLPR)

1027 Flatbush Joe said "Takeaway from 2013 Va gov election.

If you can outspend your opponent 25-1 and lie about his intentions on a hot button social issue ... then do it.

Wait, so... politics as usual?

Posted by: Uriah Heep at November 05, 2013 05:43 PM (jhI6f)

1028 Damn. We were this close to banning tampons forever.

Posted by: Boss Moss the Redskin Savage at November 05, 2013 09:39 PM (Kud5A)

First we put womyn in binders THEN we ban tampons. Get our secret Koch Brother funded agenda straight.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 05, 2013 05:43 PM (JivuR)

1029 1016 kaitian,

I'm fresh out of give a fuck.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 05, 2013 05:43 PM (9jfyN)

1030 It was overwhelmingly the Left that brought birth control pills into this election. Cucc only talked about it to deny the accusations that he was going to ban birth control. And then to deny all the ads saying his previous denials were just evil so-con lies. Cause they are tricksy like that. This was just the WarOnWomenz again. And it worked. Again. It's an effective tactic.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 05, 2013 05:43 PM (ZPrif)

1031 Forget banning The Pill. Making granny panties mandatory will solve all this

Posted by: Albie Damned at November 05, 2013 05:43 PM (Yhu4q)

1032 1. Every poll I have seen breaking down Sarvis's supporters showed him either taking evenly from McAuliffe or Cuccinelli or more from McAuliffe.

2. Any talk about how Cuccinelli f'ked this up has to address the fact his vote wasn't much different and might even wind up even being slightly ahead of the Republican who ran for Lt. Gov.

3. No matter who ran on the Republican and ticket and how well of a campaign that person ran, the guy would have been hindered by the fact VA has been drifting leftward due to Dem transplants, just like Colorado did and NH is doing.

Posted by: AD at November 05, 2013 05:43 PM (NmpZu)

1033 PORTLAND MAINE JUST LEGALIZED POT FOR ALL ADULTS

Posted by: CAC at November 05, 2013 05:44 PM (ILb/3)

1034 At least Gardisil wasn't a big issue in this campaign, at least to my knowledge.

Posted by: Dave S. at November 05, 2013 05:44 PM (UvR6d)

1035 Binders are like Trapper Keepers?

Posted by: Boss Moss the Redskin Savage at November 05, 2013 05:45 PM (Kud5A)

1036 Even if you believe that all life is precious and there should be no exception to abortion.....65%+ of the population disagrees. This is a losing position. That's all there is to it. Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo

In 1850 about those same percentages believed blacks deserved to be in bondage, you don't fail a moral test to pass a political one.

Posted by: Jean at November 05, 2013 05:45 PM (CMlD4)

1037 CAC's moving to Portland in 5...4...3...2...

Posted by: mama winger at November 05, 2013 05:45 PM (P6QsQ)

1038 So maybe that TMac + 2% wasn't really an outlier afet rall

Posted by: Albie Damned at November 05, 2013 05:45 PM (Yhu4q)

1039 Nip Sip: I almost broke my neck diving into Lake Barcroft as a stupid,drunk, trespassing youngster!

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at November 05, 2013 05:45 PM (l3vZN)

1040 Fairfax County - Possible Outcome 100498.4037 C 157475.7844 M 56977.38073 Mc Lead over C 173.0507339 Increase/Decrease

Posted by: Kaitian at November 05, 2013 05:46 PM (AFTTf)

1041 Sven, I have no problem with you. I'm angry at some other commenters' usual bullshit. I don't like the content, style and tone of their posts, ever, and I'm upset enough tonight to say so. Don't step in this. And I know what Ffx County is about. I contributed money to Kc's campaign. My husband is a defense contractor- a government-dependent leech according to some here. Again, eff it.

Posted by: LadyS at November 05, 2013 05:46 PM (xlhzQ)

1042 Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at November 05, 2013 09:43 PM (BXLPR)

You'd be surprised. The Services now have ethics attorneys following around all the big brass. Many people don't have the first clue and they think stuff is "their due". However, the Post did go overboard. Really, you;re invited to Thanksgiving and you're supposed to declare that?

Posted by: dagny at November 05, 2013 05:46 PM (Wsv8z)

1043 1000 -

You really are sore about this. I can tell.

Look, I'm not on Santorum's team, and I never was. I don't like his brand of Republican politics, but what you are talking about is a leap of faith that is not based in reality. He got chased around the country, being asked about this stuff. It matters to him. He cares about it. So he talks about it.

He also explicitly said it wasn't his job as President to do the very thing you're accusing him of wanting to do, so unless you are also calling him a liar, you're just wrong.

Don't bother arguing anymore with me on this, Ace. I really don't care, and I'm going elsewhere to do something else now anyway. Have a nice night.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 05, 2013 05:46 PM (BeSEI)

1044 Careful, EoJ is about to make an impact on the Richter scale.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at November 05, 2013 05:46 PM (ObHhj)

1045 Well with Crispie's blowout in NJ, at least we'll have a GOPer in the WH in 2016

/sarc

Posted by: Albie Damned at November 05, 2013 05:46 PM (Yhu4q)

1046 FINALLY, at 94% of vote counted, McCauliffe pulls ahead beyond the automatic-recount level. 47- 46.1. This was amazingly close, despite all the frowney faces.

Posted by: zombie at November 05, 2013 05:47 PM (+cx5n)

1047 Half of Virginia works for the Federal Gov. The rest depend on the Federal Gov. for contracts, and everything from restaurants to dry cleaners depend on the govt. worker to keep them in business. The govt. shut down, which I was in favor of, was thoroughly blamed on the Republicans. Right after the shut down, McAuliffe was up by 12 pts. The only reason he is going to squeak this out is because the media kept up that narrative until they couldn't ignore the Obamacare story any longer...it was too late at that point. But Obamacare did close this race... Fat Beckel whined on the Five today that had the tea party not gotten Cuccinelli nominated, the Lt. Gov would have been nominated and would have cruised to victory...yeah well, the Lt. Governor really lost tonght, so let's take more advice from Dem. Operatives.

Posted by: Jen at November 05, 2013 05:47 PM (YM8HR)

1048 so many federal workers have been imported to VA you can forget them in the presidential election. BC pill talk or not. The demographic is different

Posted by: thunderb at November 05, 2013 05:47 PM (zOTsN)

1049 At least Gardisil wasn't a big issue in this campaign, at least to my knowledge.

It should have been, but Cuccinelli was never as good a candidate as Sen. Santorum or that Bachmann lady!1!!

Posted by: Uriah Heep at November 05, 2013 05:47 PM (jhI6f)

1050 I'd like to plunger rape and blanket roll that fucker Sarvis. As if the media, with their supposed newly found voice for the truth, didn't know he was an Obama stooge.

Posted by: Blacksheep at November 05, 2013 05:47 PM (bS6uW)

1051 Of course not all government employees are leeches.But many of them are,and the number is increasing because the number of employees is increasing.

Posted by: steevy at November 05, 2013 05:48 PM (zqvg6)

1052 1021 Anyone know how the northern Colorado counties voted regarding succession from the rest of Colorado?

Posted by: Tofer732 at November 05, 2013 09:43 PM (6DkSW)

I was just going to ask this myself... I'd love info!

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at November 05, 2013 05:48 PM (KL49F)

1053 Despite all this, it isn't abortion or the pill that was the problem in Virginia. Let me state clearly. Cuccinelli is the AG of Virginia. He won that position 5 years ago. He did not suddenly change his position on things as AG. McAullife was trounced running in dem primary 5 years ago. What changed? Is it abortions? No. The problems dwell within the GOP. McDonnell should have resigned. And Bolling should have manned up and supported Cuccinelli when he lost. Sarvis was not the margin of victory. More of votes came from McAullife.

Posted by: blaster at November 05, 2013 05:48 PM (4+AaH)

1054 I'll vote for Hillary Africanus over that fat fuck from New Jersey.

Posted by: Boss Moss the Redskin Savage at November 05, 2013 05:48 PM (Kud5A)

1055 >>No matter who ran on the Republican and ticket and how well of a campaign that person ran, the guy would have been hindered by the fact VA has been drifting leftward due to Dem transplants, just like Colorado did and NH is doing. So is the country. And yet every time someone points this out they get blasted with the reply that the establishment just wants to run RINOs or a True Conservative wins anytime their ideas are put to the test. It isn't true. I don't care how many times Rush says it, it's just not. The country has changed and we can either adapt our tactics or lose running as True Conservatives in all but the most red districts/states. Ted Cruz's platform and campaign style is awesome in Texas. He would get annihilated in a blue or purple state. Just the way it is.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 05, 2013 05:48 PM (g1DWB)

1056 I doubt McAwful will be able to lay off the crack....the streets of Richmond are lined with slingers.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at November 05, 2013 05:48 PM (hcHS/)

1057 Christy wont win VA. He wont even win NJ

Posted by: thunderb at November 05, 2013 05:49 PM (zOTsN)

1058
This was just the WarOnWomenz again. And it worked. Again.

It's an effective tactic.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 05, 2013 09:43 PM (ZPrif)

*****************************************

And the Left will ride that horse to victory from here until the burning times. Women voters = doom. There is no issue or collection of issues that trumps and appeal to their lady parts.

Posted by: Reactionary at November 05, 2013 05:49 PM (jfeoD)

1059 Bill Kristol, believe it or not, just made a good point. Cooch outperformed Romney in VA, and Romney wasn't the Tea Party candidate.

So much for the demise of those racist, arsonist terrorists, huh?

Posted by: Albie Damned at November 05, 2013 05:49 PM (Yhu4q)

1060 1035 Nip Sip: I almost broke my neck diving into Lake Barcroft as a stupid,drunk, trespassing youngster! The lake is not really that deep. In the 50's you could walk across the swamp area on the north side. I swam across the north beach to the north north beach as a kid. About killed me.

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 05, 2013 05:49 PM (0FSuD)

1061 Uh, ace? Every fucking comment you made is about goddamn birth control pills dude. Yes. It is your side bring this into it now.Grasp your ears, give a firm tug, and when you hear a big popping sound, that will be your head being pulled out of your own ass.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 05, 2013 05:49 PM (HcoQw)

1062 1034 So maybe that TMac + 2% wasn't really an outlier afet rall Posted by: Albie Damned Yep. Seems to be the case. It's lookin' like it'll probably be a 2% (maybe 3% margin) at most. Still crossing my fingers that it'll stay closer to a 1% margin, so to spook the Dems.

Posted by: zombie at November 05, 2013 05:49 PM (+cx5n)

1063
Come on Obenshain; hang in there!!

He's still got a 30k vote lead, and I don't think there are 30k more votes in the blue counties to sink him.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at November 05, 2013 05:50 PM (0IhFx)

1064 And instead of the Establishment learning that if only they'd given $$ to Cuccinelli, he'd be the next governor, all they will remember is that RINO Christie won and conservative Cuccinelli lost.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at November 05, 2013 05:50 PM (KL49F)

1065 Obenshain still up by 30K for Va AG. Please, please, please....

Posted by: Pete at November 05, 2013 05:50 PM (TiZlI)

1066 Is this the ONT? I am worn out.

Posted by: The Chicken at November 05, 2013 05:51 PM (0FSuD)

1067 Posted by: JackStraw at November 05, 2013 09:48 PM (g1DWB) So basically we need to be less Democrat. No thanks. Have fun with whatever it is you're trying to do.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at November 05, 2013 05:51 PM (ObHhj)

1068 Huffpo projects a final 1.5% lead for McAuliffe. This race was winnable.

Posted by: mrp at November 05, 2013 05:51 PM (HjPtV)

1069 We LOVE Birth Control MOAR than WOMEN do !!
SRSLY!!

Posted by: GOP Strategery Squad at November 05, 2013 05:51 PM (5ikDv)

1070 No,I wont vote for the Dem,but I wont vote for Christie.

Posted by: steevy at November 05, 2013 05:52 PM (zqvg6)

1071 1060 - that's better known as a self fulfilling prophecy

Posted by: Tofer732 at November 05, 2013 05:52 PM (6DkSW)

1072 1037 Lady S,

my foster parents live in Alexandria....

it is what it is.

Look I am a SoCon stmpathizing FiCon who is just about past caring, no offense.

God bless and keep you and yours.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 05, 2013 05:52 PM (9jfyN)

1073 Washington county in CO voted yes on Secession.

Posted by: tangonine at November 05, 2013 05:53 PM (x3YFz)

1074 NY Slime has already anointed Christy as the GOP candidate in 2016. Do not question them!

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 05, 2013 05:53 PM (0FSuD)

1075 The polls were biased 8% against the Republican.

Standard demoralization tactic

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at November 05, 2013 05:53 PM (fZ2Zr)

1076 They spent 25 times what Cuccinelli spent and they spent it all on that War on Women crap.

That was an expensive low info voter win.

It was close enough, it could have been pulled off if the republicans had supported Cuccinelli.

Thanks Rinos.

Posted by: dagny at November 05, 2013 05:53 PM (Wsv8z)

1077 Well, at least we can be thankful that vaginas and tampons will still be legal in Virginia! But we must be ever vigilant! Rick Santorum, like the devil, can take many forms. Also, I hear the so-con Republicans want to make dancing and rap music illegal!

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 05, 2013 05:53 PM (ZPrif)

1078 1055 Bill Kristol, believe it or not, just made a good point. Cooch outperformed Romney in VA, and Romney wasn't the Tea Party candidate.

So much for the demise of those racist, arsonist terrorists, huh?

Posted by: Albie Damned at November 05, 2013 09:49 PM (Yhu4q)

Very good point indeed

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at November 05, 2013 05:53 PM (KL49F)

1079 how long till McAuliffe is under investigation

Posted by: thunderb at November 05, 2013 05:54 PM (zOTsN)

1080 I just put a ninety day supply of Cyclafem in the tip jar! Dig deep, Morons!

Posted by: Empire of Jeff, Theatre Fag at November 05, 2013 05:54 PM (JDIKC)

1081 Blame it on Bill Bolling.

Posted by: blaster at November 05, 2013 05:54 PM (4+AaH)

1082 Over the last month, the smarmy fuck outspent Cooch 4-1. That's what made the difference.

Posted by: Albie Damned at November 05, 2013 05:54 PM (Yhu4q)

1083 It isn't true. I don't care how many times Rush says it, it's just not. The country has changed and we can either adapt our tactics or lose running as True Conservatives in all but the most red districts/states.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 05, 2013 09:48 PM (g1DWB)

******************************************************

If the Republican party does not offer a conservative alternative to the Leftism of the Dems, it does not serve much of a purpose. Better to give up and quit wasting time, money, and precious sanity. If the US is indeed becoming a collection of socialists, well, then Americans need to get what they want - and get it good and hard. The rest of us can retreat to the red states (if any remain), or learn to deal and exploit the system as fully as possible. We owe no loyalty to other Americans if they are leftards - so we should feel no guilt about stripping all we can off America's corpse.

Posted by: Reactionary at November 05, 2013 05:54 PM (jfeoD)

1084 So time to start drinking? ha ha

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 05, 2013 05:54 PM (0FSuD)

1085 ballot stuffing douchebags in dc suburbs pulled it out.

bastards.

dems = fraud.

Posted by: AHFF Geoff at November 05, 2013 05:54 PM (Co70e)

1086 What is the deal with non-Horde women? Are they just eternal LIVs or what the fuck?

Posted by: Blacksheep at November 05, 2013 05:54 PM (bS6uW)

1087 Posted by: dagny at November 05, 2013 09:53 PM (Wsv8z) Seriously, 25 to 1 is a lot to pay for 1.5%

Posted by: Burn the Witch at November 05, 2013 05:55 PM (ObHhj)

1088 1075 how long till McAuliffe is under investigation Posted by: thunderb at November 05, 2013 09:54 PM (zOTsN) And how soon after will he deny it and get away with it.

Posted by: Kaitian at November 05, 2013 05:55 PM (AFTTf)

1089 Nip Sip, you still live in Barcroft?

Posted by: Jean at November 05, 2013 05:55 PM (CMlD4)

1090 >>>PORTLAND MAINE JUST LEGALIZED POT FOR ALL ADULTS

UPDATE: LET'S ALL MOVE TO PORTLAND, MAINE.

Posted by: Jeff B. at November 05, 2013 05:55 PM (n/+FT)

1091 @1069

yeah I've been following that.

from the comments on one article "How is the proposed new State of North Colorado going to pay it's share of the debt?"

Most depressing thing I have read in a while. The United States are only united by debt.

Posted by: noone, really at November 05, 2013 05:55 PM (5ikDv)

1092 Enjoy deBlasio NYC. You're headed back to the pit. Full commie, all the time.

Posted by: dagny at November 05, 2013 05:55 PM (Wsv8z)

1093 It's looking as if all the CO counties that voted to be the 51st state are doing well. A least one county is done and voted yes, the others aren't there yet, info is spotty.

This isn't done, they then have to do a state legislature bit and then off to the US congress.

'ere's gonna be shootin', kids.

Posted by: tangonine at November 05, 2013 05:56 PM (x3YFz)

1094 We got off 95 so my daughter could barf in Fredericksburg. She didn't appreciate that I called her a human onion.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at November 05, 2013 05:56 PM (hcHS/)

1095 President Clinton 2.0.

Posted by: Boss Moss the Redskin Savage at November 05, 2013 05:56 PM (Kud5A)

1096 Pretty sure that the Obenshain/Herring race is going to go to a recount.

GOP losses in the state house look to be something like 4-5 seats.

Posted by: Jeff B. at November 05, 2013 05:56 PM (n/+FT)

1097 Fairfax County - Possible Outcome 101317.2957 C 160330.5522 M 59013.25652 Mc Lead over C 2035.876522 Increase/Decrease The chances of Cucc winning is gone. Fairfax keeps expanding the lead for McAsshole.

Posted by: Kaitian at November 05, 2013 05:56 PM (AFTTf)

1098 1083 - they will more than make it back in govt contracts

Posted by: Tofer732 at November 05, 2013 05:56 PM (6DkSW)

1099 Way to go Reince. Keep fucking that chicken

Posted by: Albie Damned at November 05, 2013 05:56 PM (Yhu4q)

1100 It's a good thing O went in there and campaigned for McAuliffe at the last minute! He made the difference and brought home the win!

Posted by: Jane at November 05, 2013 05:57 PM (J+Bq4)

1101 I'd say the chances of the Democrats winning the AG's seat are better than even at this point, though. Sorry to have to write that. Just based on the outstanding votes it looks as if Herring will edge out Obenshain.

Posted by: Jeff B. at November 05, 2013 05:57 PM (n/+FT)

1102 1083 Posted by: dagny at November 05, 2013 09:53 PM (Wsv8z)

Seriously, 25 to 1 is a lot to pay for 1.5%

Posted by: Burn the Witch at November 05, 2013 09:55 PM (ObHhj)

Isn't it?

Posted by: dagny at November 05, 2013 05:57 PM (Wsv8z)

1103 1089 It's looking as if all the CO counties that voted to be the 51st state are doing well. A least one county is done and voted yes, the others aren't there yet, info is spotty. This isn't done, they then have to do a state legislature bit and then off to the US congress. 'ere's gonna be shootin', kids. Posted by: tangonine at November 05, 2013 09:56 PM (x3YFz) You said what now?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 05, 2013 05:57 PM (GEICT)

1104 Wow. It actually could be a < 1% margin in the end

Posted by: Albie Damned at November 05, 2013 05:57 PM (Yhu4q)

1105 Just gotta point out : After this race closing fast after this Obamacare disaster finally getting MSM stinking airtime - - I think a whole bunch of Democrat Senators and Representitives , start falling over themselves while crapping their well creased pants - to postpone the individual mandate. Will Obama be imperious enough and stupid enough to veto ???!

Posted by: BuilderDoug at November 05, 2013 05:57 PM (exLcg)

1106 No hard feelings toward you, either, Sven. I'm furious and signing off now.

Posted by: LadyS at November 05, 2013 05:58 PM (xlhzQ)

1107 how long till McAuliffe is under investigation
Posted by: thunderb

Obenshain's ticket to big chair will be convicting McAuliffe of something sleazy. I think TMac is going to rue having Herring on the ticket.

Posted by: Jean at November 05, 2013 05:58 PM (CMlD4)

1108 How is the VA A.G. race and races for state Senate in VA going?

Posted by: The Political Hat at November 05, 2013 05:59 PM (Vk2pI)

1109 Let's see, Cooch is going to be within 2 pts, in another Faux third-party candidate debacle, where the GOP-e refused to support the conservative.

It's as if the RINO's have their own version of the purity test.

Posted by: phreshone at November 05, 2013 05:59 PM (Pr6hk)

1110 1085 Nip Sip, you still live in Barcroft? Posted by: Jean at November 05, 2013 09:55 PM (CMlD4) No, not in 53 years. It was really a neat place in the 50's. Bailey crossroads? Use to be an airport. Seven Corners? Road my bike to the opening. First McDonalds? had to wait in line to buy a burger. Annadale, one store. I googled up my old home on Stoney Brae. Pretty scary, thing is still there.

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 05, 2013 05:59 PM (0FSuD)

1111 can we call him Governor McAsshole?

Posted by: thunderb at November 05, 2013 05:59 PM (zOTsN)

1112 'ere's gonna be shootin', kids.
Posted by: tangonine at November 05, 2013 09:56 PM (x3YFz)

You said what now?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 05, 2013 09:57 PM (GEICT)

The US Congress has to approve the secession.

Last time they didn't approve secession... well, that was about 1860.

Those cattle ranchers out there that voted to secede ain't gonna be happy.

Posted by: tangonine at November 05, 2013 06:00 PM (x3YFz)

1113 Jesse Jackson said Republicans just hate black people! Why are we nominating candidates that hate black people? We really shouldn't do that. That's racist and bad. If the Republicans keep nominating evil racists that Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton say just hate black people and mexicans, then I can't be a part of such a party. How can we expect to win elections when we keep nominating people that Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton say are racist? Look how many times they were forced to deny they were racist! That's such a giveaway. Only racists go around all the time saying they aren't racist. And why would Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton call them racists if they weren't racists?

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 05, 2013 06:00 PM (ZPrif)

1114 >>If the Republican party does not offer a conservative alternative to the Leftism of the Dems, it does not serve much of a purpose. Better to give up and quit wasting time, money, and precious sanity. If I said tactics, not principles. You know what Reagan didn't do? He didn't run as a pissed off social warrior. He ran as an upbeat, small government conservative. It didn't hurt that he ran against the disaster that was Jimmy Carter just like the next Republican candidate will run behind the disaster that is Obama, but enough with the social issues crap, at least during the election. Don't give the msm anything hit you with and they won't hit you. The msm tried to marginalize Reagan as an old, crazy dude who wanted to blow up the world. When people saw he wasn't that attack failed. The social issues never registered a blip. Winning opens possibilities. Losing does not.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 05, 2013 06:00 PM (g1DWB)

1115 Albie Damned said "Bill Kristol, believe it or not, just made a good point. Cooch outperformed Romney in VA, and Romney wasn't the Tea Party candidate."

No, it's a fucking stupid point; par the course for Mr. Kristol.

Romney ran against Barack Obama, who motivated a huge African-American turn-out that doesn't happen in: (1) off-year, non-presidential elections, (2) to candidates who aren't Black.

The Black vote (in absolute numbers) just aren't motivated to get out and vote for some cracker named "Terry" -- regardless of what Bill Clinton says.

I'm sorry, it's that fucking simple.

Posted by: Uriah Heep at November 05, 2013 06:01 PM (jhI6f)

1116 Terry McAuliffe 969,252 47.1% Ken Cuccinelli 952,132 46.3% Robert Sarvis 137,227 6.7% 96% reporting What's the margin that forces a recount?

Posted by: Voltaire's Crack at November 05, 2013 06:01 PM (gXtDC)

1117 I need a cigarette.

Posted by: Slapweasel at November 05, 2013 06:01 PM (lq3Ak)

1118 1107 can we call him Governor McAsshole? Posted by: thunderb at November 05, 2013 09:59 PM (zOTsN) Yes.

Posted by: Kaitian at November 05, 2013 06:01 PM (AFTTf)

1119 Nip Sip, you would remember the frozen custard place at the corner of Annandale Rd and Rt 50, then.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at November 05, 2013 06:02 PM (l3vZN)

1120 The final Quinnipiac poll released on monday:

McAuliffe: 46$
Cuccinelli: 40%
Sarvis : 8%

Currently (96% of precints reporting)

McAuliffe: 47.1$
Cuccinelli: 46.3%
Sarvis : 6.7%

Late deciders broke for Cuccinelli would be my guess. Looks like the Obama trip was a downer for McAuliffe.

Posted by: mrp at November 05, 2013 06:03 PM (HjPtV)

1121 "I googled up my old home on Stoney Brae"

I drive past it several times a week. Seven Corners - the only place that would benefit from a traffic circle.

Posted by: Jean at November 05, 2013 06:03 PM (CMlD4)

1122 The first thing McAsshole will do is make anal lubricant illegal so that the pain will come down a lot harder than it should.

Posted by: Kaitian at November 05, 2013 06:03 PM (AFTTf)

1123 The US Congress has to approve the secession. Last time they didn't approve secession... well, that was about 1860. Those cattle ranchers out there that voted to secede ain't gonna be happy. Posted by: tangonine at November 05, 2013 10:00 PM (x3YFz) That I follow. I wasn't aware that there was a secession movement that had that much steam.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 05, 2013 06:03 PM (GEICT)

1124 This isn't done, they then have to do a state legislature bit and then off to the US congress. 'ere's gonna be shootin', kids. Posted by: tangonine No way congress approves such a thing. Not that I wouldn't love to see it on general principle.

Posted by: Meremortal, Low Info Mofo at November 05, 2013 06:03 PM (1Y+hH)

1125 >>I'm sorry, it's that fucking simple. A little more complicated. Obamacare was a positive dream backed by lies in 2012. It's reality now.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 05, 2013 06:04 PM (g1DWB)

1126 Let's see, Cooch is going to be within 2 pts, in another Faux third-party candidate debacle, where the GOP-e refused to support the conservative.

It's as if the RINO's have their own version of the purity test.

Posted by: phreshone at November 05, 2013 09:59 PM (Pr6hk)

No shit. But hey, now we can get someone to pay for my birth control pills here in VA. Of course, I'm a guy and all, but still.

Posted by: physics geek at November 05, 2013 06:04 PM (llWHs)

1127 LOL. I was one of the about 20 or so people in my county who voted for the LaRouche/Impeach Obama Now candidate. I should probably rent a small banquet rooml and we could all have dinner together. ;^) I have a feeling that CBD was also part of a select number for the candidate he voted for.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 05, 2013 06:04 PM (23Kgq)

1128
I know this is all about rooting for the good guys, or the better guys, to win, but besides seeing McAwful's face, not much about that election is going to effect anybody. Hell, McDonnell didn't do anything to effect the rest of the country. And McAwful is gonna have an opposition legislature.

So buck up, its still Obamacare that is going to kill you.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 05, 2013 06:04 PM (nKUHR)

1129

1) NYC elects socialist mayor
2) Socialist major jacks up City Income Tax
3) Hedge Funds and other money managers begin moving to Palm Beach
4) 50% of 30,000 tax payers who are 50% of City revenues are gone in 4 years
5) Real live reboot of Escape From New York

Posted by: phreshone at November 05, 2013 06:04 PM (Pr6hk)

1130 I'm a bit conflicted about this North Colorado (NoCo?)thing. No ski resorts

Posted by: Albie Damned at November 05, 2013 06:04 PM (Yhu4q)

1131 Latinos who turned out to vote in the Northern Virginia suburbs on Tuesday said they were supporting Democrat Terry McAuliffe for governor because they believed his opponent is anti-immigrant.

AMNESTY NOW!!

Posted by: GOP Strategery Squad at November 05, 2013 06:05 PM (5ikDv)

1132 1115 Nip Sip, you would remember the frozen custard place at the corner of Annandale Rd and Rt 50, then. Posted by: Jinx the Cat at November 05, 2013 10:02 PM (l3vZN) I think after my time. I went to the Episcopal church in Annadale, sort of modern looking. There was an A&P in town and that was it.

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 05, 2013 06:05 PM (0FSuD)

1133 It was secession from Colorado not America. They want to form state #51. Still needs Congress to approve it. They won't. But forming a new state is different from leaving the US. We've added a bunch of states since we decided the secession issue.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 05, 2013 06:05 PM (ZPrif)

1134 Nip Sip, you would remember the frozen custard place at the corner of Annandale Rd and Rt 50, then. Posted by: Jinx the Cat

There is a Baskin Robbins on one corner and a custard place back off the road on another. I believe we'll get a yogurt place in the new development on the SE corner.

Posted by: Jean at November 05, 2013 06:06 PM (CMlD4)

1135 Sorry to have to write that. Sorry to say I don't believe you. You are, after all, the douche who spun like a top for Romney all over the Internet just last year.

Posted by: Blacksheep at November 05, 2013 06:06 PM (bS6uW)

1136 Fairfax County - Possible Outcome 99495 C 157249 M 57754 Mc Lead over C -1259.26 Increase/Decrease That's the final result of Fairfax County. It came down slightly.

Posted by: Kaitian at November 05, 2013 06:06 PM (AFTTf)

1137 Well crap. Delegate seat here flipped to the donks. Traded a sure bet for a more pure challenger back in the primary.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at November 05, 2013 06:06 PM (l3vZN)

1138 "Well, at least we can be thankful that vaginas and tampons will still be legal in Virginia! But we must be ever vigilant! Rick Santorum, like the devil, can take many forms.

Also, I hear the so-con Republicans want to make dancing and rap music illegal!"

When did So-Cons decide to shirk responsibility? I thought that was the whole point! That and _voluntarily_ embracing So-Con positions.

I'm so sick of every group within the Right pointing everywhere but at themselves. It's easy to blame The Establishment. It's hard to say "crap, I/we made some bad decisions as well." It's especially hard to say, "I/we should endeavor to fix those mistakes."

Just once, JUST ONCE I'd like to hear the Tea Party say, "Oops, we screwed up Delaware. That's on us." Instead it's all "BUT THE ESTABLISHMENT TOO!" Does the Right even believe in competition? I'm serious, because the real Establishment isn't covering itself in glory, and the Tea Party/True Cons aren't even rising to that level.

Posted by: Shoot Me at November 05, 2013 06:06 PM (qiXMt)

1139 Having McAuliffe win is a semi-disaster. I mean for the national GOP.

He's a Clinton loyalist and ass-kisser. You just know he's going to spend the next 3 years building up the state's political machinery to support Hillery's run.

A path to 270 sans Virginia is pretty bleak. I mean, if we're really at the point where VA is gone, then OH and FL are just as fucked.

Posted by: Uriah Heep at November 05, 2013 06:07 PM (jhI6f)

1140 cool story, bro

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 05, 2013 06:08 PM (ZPrif)

1141 Still needs Congress to approve it.

They won't. But forming a new state is different from leaving the US. We've added a bunch of states since we decided the secession issue.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 05, 2013 10:05 PM (ZPrif)

Yeah, that's what I said: need congressional approval. Last time that happened was W. VA.

Posted by: tangonine at November 05, 2013 06:08 PM (x3YFz)

1142

The msm tried to marginalize Reagan as an old, crazy dude who wanted to blow up the world. When people saw he wasn't that attack failed. The social issues never registered a blip.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 05, 2013 10:00 PM (g1DWB)

In the county south of me that I work for, the Exec is your typical milquetoast NY Republican. Has never touched any of the social issues, kinda sucks on fiscal issues but better than the alternative. Nevertheless, the airwaves have been saturated with "Asterino wants to ban abortions!" "Asterino prevented women from getting health care" "Asterino brought guns into the county!!11!!1"

This shit is silly, but if it works they'll keep doing it, and it doesn't matter how hard you try to avoid the issues.

Posted by: mugiwara at November 05, 2013 06:08 PM (hpYnL)

1143 Place I'm thinking about was there from about 1950 until the 80's. Machines were ancient and the product was unlike any found today.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at November 05, 2013 06:08 PM (l3vZN)

1144 That was for the whinge above not uriah.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 05, 2013 06:08 PM (ZPrif)

1145 I left Barcroft in 1960. There were not any Baskins and Robins back then. Shit we just barely had electricity, ha ha. We did have Hot Shoppes, the original Marriott franchise/drive trus. It was over near the Pentagon.

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 05, 2013 06:09 PM (0FSuD)

1146 CRUUUUUUUUUUUZZZZZZZZZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: GOP Strategery Squad at November 05, 2013 06:09 PM (5ikDv)

1147 Avoided the results tonigh until now. Fuck the damn RNC straight to fucking hell. Can't wait to get a call from them.

Posted by: RWC at November 05, 2013 06:09 PM (LpbKr)

1148 The outcome is not surprising even though the margin was. Still Obama's disciples will crow that his visit was what put Mc Awful over the top...

Posted by: JoeyBagels at November 05, 2013 06:09 PM (Usdw3)

1149 All this handwringing about so-cons vs fis-cons is utterly beside the point. The point (glad you asked) is the media. The Democrats appear unified and disciplined because their image is being managed by a small group of people who share a common ideology and common policy goals, with very little deviation. So it doesn't really matter that there are major, extreme differences between, say, an Evan Bayh and an Alan Grayson. All of that is subsumed into the Unified Democrat Image as per the media. Until we solve the problem of the media, the faultlines in conservative ideology (which should be embraced, not eliminated) will continue to be exploited and highlighted. Turning on each other is not the answer. Not at all. What we need is pure fiscal conservatism. It's a Unified Republican Image that streamlines our platform to underscore commitments to poll-tested soundbites for the LIV's. Accomplish that and we win every time.

Posted by: Ummberto Echo at November 05, 2013 06:09 PM (346rt)

1150 >>>Just once, JUST ONCE I'd like to hear the Tea Party say, "Oops, we screwed up Delaware. That's on us." Instead it's all "BUT THE ESTABLISHMENT TOO!"

Seriously: have you ever seen a hardcore Tea Party-type posting around here or Hot Air actually admit they screwed up when they backed/nominated a candidate who ended up losing?

The only time they ever admit making "a mistake" is when someone they supported later "reveals" themselves to be a RINO. And that's it.

Posted by: Jeff B. at November 05, 2013 06:10 PM (n/+FT)

1151 JackStraw, KC did not run as a pissed off social warrior, either. He simply didn't. Contrary to what observers in this thread have put out, KC was not out there pumping social issues at all. It was TM hammering KC on them. War On Women stuff. And it was totally over the top. Ace is usually spot on, but tonight's an off night. The line that KC was trying to ban birth control is just that -- a line. Planted and exploited by the left. Yes, the position about "personhood" that KC took does not speak well of the pro-abort position on the grounds of logic, philosophy, and medical evidence. That is not the fault of Ken Cuccinelli. That is an outcome of understanding reality. Ace has surprisingly taken the stance that reality is something that sometimes is best left unsaid. It's, frankly, impolitic. Hey, he's human. Over time it'll work out, I think. Ace is cool.

Posted by: Cowboy at November 05, 2013 06:10 PM (f73Jj)

1152 Obenshain still up by 21K for VA AG with 96% in. My delegate is in a tight race but it looks like most of the precincts still out are usually safely red. Should help the AG race too.

Posted by: Pete at November 05, 2013 06:10 PM (TiZlI)

1153 Damn, we haven't had a thread go like this since the Hillbuzz crowd came over in '08. That didn't end well, either.

Posted by: Peaches at November 05, 2013 06:10 PM (8lmkt)

1154 1077 Blame it on Bill Bolling.

Posted by: blaster at November 05, 2013 09:54 PM (4+AaH)

I already have. Him and the rest of the Establishment and also the big $ GOP donors who didn't give Cooch a dime and actually gave $ to McAuliffe.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at November 05, 2013 06:10 PM (KL49F)

1155 The House of Delegates actually went up in Republican members this election. An increase of 10 Republicans.

Posted by: Kaitian at November 05, 2013 06:11 PM (AFTTf)

1156 I blame Ted Cruz!!!

That damn Peruvian!!!

Posted by: JarvisW at November 05, 2013 06:11 PM (E7Iyp)

1157 1139 Place I'm thinking about was there from about 1950 until the 80's. Machines were ancient and the product was unlike any found today. Posted by: Jinx the Cat at November 05, 2013 10:08 PM (l3vZN) Sounds like the one in Orange VA, with real custard. I don't remember it, but I seem to vaguely remember a drive tru, like an A&W root beer place, could that be it? I went to Sleepy Hollow elementary school, walked.

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 05, 2013 06:11 PM (0FSuD)

1158 >>This shit is silly, but if it works they'll keep doing it, and it doesn't matter how hard you try to avoid the issues. Absolutely agree. This tactic works and they will keep using it until it doesn't. And bad candidates are bad candidates. All I'm saying is don't give them any ammo. Or at least as little as possible. Focus on the things that matter which right now are the fiscal issues. If we don't get ahold of them soon nothing else matters.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 05, 2013 06:11 PM (g1DWB)

1159 So at least with the House of Delegates having a nice comfortable majority in Republican members, they should be able to stop McAsshole from doing much to the state.

Posted by: Kaitian at November 05, 2013 06:12 PM (AFTTf)

1160 If we are going to be fair, we ought to note that McDonnell was a disappointment and Bolling was an asshole.

Posted by: Dave S. at November 05, 2013 06:12 PM (UvR6d)

1161 Dammit the Tea Party's Uterus Control Act Has Killed Us ALL!

Posted by: GOP Strategery Squad at November 05, 2013 06:12 PM (5ikDv)

1162 1145 Ummberto Echo,

the party won't attack the media so we're always gonna be the SoCon hordes....

I'm ready to spend my money on underwater nude basketweaving than this clusterfuck

Posted by: sven10077 at November 05, 2013 06:13 PM (9jfyN)

1163 The House of Delegates actually went up in Republican members this election. An increase of 10 Republicans. Posted by: Kaitian My gun cabinet thanks you for that news.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at November 05, 2013 06:13 PM (l3vZN)

1164 Oops. Should be "What we need is NOT pure fiscal conservatism."

Posted by: Ummberto Echo at November 05, 2013 06:13 PM (346rt)

1165 I went to Sleepy Hollow elementary school, walked. Posted by: Nip Sip

My kids would go there, if I let the commies have at them.

Posted by: Jean at November 05, 2013 06:13 PM (CMlD4)

1166 1151 The House of Delegates actually went up in Republican members this election. An increase of 10 Republicans. Posted by: Kaitian at November 05, 2013 10:11 PM (AFTTf) ----------------- Good news. Damned good. I'm still holding out hope for Obenchain. I do have some really good rum, though, in case I have to take a stiff one to console myself.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 05, 2013 06:14 PM (dfYL9)

1167 @1161 What a small fucking world.

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 05, 2013 06:15 PM (0FSuD)

1168 If you see an Abortion coming at you RUN AWAY!!!!

Posted by: GOP Strategery Squad at November 05, 2013 06:15 PM (5ikDv)

1169 I'm a bit conflicted about this North Colorado (NoCo?)thing. No ski resorts Posted by: Albie Damned That's its best point! Good fishing and hunting too.

Posted by: Meremortal, Low Info Mofo at November 05, 2013 06:15 PM (1Y+hH)

1170 My mistake, it went up by 4 Republicans. Not the 10. I overcounted on Republican numbers.

Posted by: Kaitian at November 05, 2013 06:15 PM (AFTTf)

1171 I need a cigarette. Posted by: Slapweasel ------------------------- *shoves a Lucky Strike through the USB port*

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 05, 2013 06:15 PM (aDwsi)

1172 I grew up in Oakton, family lived there long enough to have sold land for $35/acre.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at November 05, 2013 06:15 PM (l3vZN)

1173 1159 - they'll feel empowered to tell the carpetbagging hack to pound salt on day 1. I truly believe that when the employer mandate goes into effect and even more people start losing their policies that will really help in Va.

Posted by: Pete at November 05, 2013 06:16 PM (TiZlI)

1174 1146

It's worse than that. Instead of admitting O'Donnell was a mistake, they weave a ridiculous tale about how she drew heat off other Tea Party candidate, meaning her loss to a Commie was really a super secret smart strategy win!

(Except now all the Tea Party Candidates who won in 2010 because of the Tea Party are turncoat Establishments because Cruz.)

And I can't stand Hot Air. I would be even more of a jerk there than I am here. Last time I went there the commentators couldn't even stand Catholics, despite Malkin being one.

Posted by: Shoot Me at November 05, 2013 06:16 PM (qiXMt)

1175 AMF. Bottle of wine and pain pills for rotator cluff tear are wearing me out. Night all.

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 05, 2013 06:16 PM (0FSuD)

1176 Why oh why won't the so-con extremists admit that their desire to ban salsa music, rotisserie chicken, and cartwheels is costing us elections?

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 05, 2013 06:16 PM (ZPrif)

1177 Ip Sip - I've asked before, where in NC are you?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 05, 2013 06:16 PM (aDwsi)

1178 Sven, we're just going to have to do it for them. For what it's worth I've been contemplating forming a small-ball PAC for exactly that purpose. Start targeting specific media personalities in their own cities. Embarrass and agitate them. Just thinking right now, but I really want to make it happen.

Posted by: Ummberto Echo at November 05, 2013 06:16 PM (346rt)

1179 Ehh disregard my last post. 66 Republicans in the House of Delegates, the one Independent seat changed to Democrat. So 66-34. The numbers increased by 2 for Democrats. So the House of Delegates will be able to curtail any major damage that McAsshole wants to do hopefully.

Posted by: Kaitian at November 05, 2013 06:17 PM (AFTTf)

1180 On the bright side, you can see that we only have about 30K racists left in VA who voted for Cooch and not for Jackson.

Posted by: Jean at November 05, 2013 06:17 PM (CMlD4)

1181 Ooops, 'Nip Sip'

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 05, 2013 06:17 PM (aDwsi)

1182 1150Aslan's Girl,

join me in agreeing with them that voting for Team Clinton over a Goper you don't like is ok....

nominate Chrispy Gop try me

Posted by: sven10077 at November 05, 2013 06:17 PM (9jfyN)

1183 50 precincts left and Obenshain up by 18,100.

Posted by: Pete at November 05, 2013 06:17 PM (TiZlI)

1184 Blacksheep said: "Sorry to say I don't believe you. You are, after all, the douche who spun like a top for Romney all over the Internet just last year."

Hey, fuck off you douche.

That's what you do. You get behind your candidate and fucking push him over the goal line; you don't pout like a little bitch that you didn't 100% of what you wanted. Guess what, now you got 0% of what you wanted; although, actually you got 4 years in which you can bitch and lash out telling everyone you saw the "true" way, so psychologically you're still a winner!

You're a 'winner' in the same way a little bitch backs down from a confrontation when someone insults his girlfriend or wife -- yeah, you *could have* beat him up, you *could have* spoken up, you *could have* defended her, but you knew better, it 'wasn't worth it'... right? Ha! As long as you think that; because that belief exists nowhere outside your mind. The mentality of a loser.

What he does, that's what you do when you win; you could learn something from him.

Posted by: Uriah Heep at November 05, 2013 06:17 PM (jhI6f)

1185 "The Democrats appear unified and disciplined because their image is being managed by a small group of people who share a common ideology and common policy goals, with very little deviation."

Money, friend. You forgot to mention the money. The filthy lucre. At one point, most of it was belonged to the taxpayers. Solyndra. Corzine. Soros.

Posted by: mrp at November 05, 2013 06:17 PM (HjPtV)

1186 *click*

*exhale*

That'll do, sir. Much obliged.

Posted by: Slapweasel at November 05, 2013 06:17 PM (lq3Ak)

1187 Ummberto Echo - I'm for that.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 05, 2013 06:17 PM (aDwsi)

1188 1166 My mistake, it went up by 4 Republicans. Not the 10. I overcounted on Republican numbers. Posted by: Kaitian at November 05, 2013 10:15 PM (AFTTf) -------------------- Still good news.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 05, 2013 06:18 PM (dfYL9)

1189 764 Okay, VA. Prove that you're another Short Bus state.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 05, 2013 09:09 PM (lVPtV)

And...done.

Posted by: physics geek at November 05, 2013 06:18 PM (llWHs)

1190 Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 05, 2013 10:18 PM (dfYL9) No I'm an idiot at reading things not close enough.

Posted by: Kaitian at November 05, 2013 06:18 PM (AFTTf)

1191 97% in and less then a 1.5% margin. Have the military votes dropped in yet?

Posted by: Jean at November 05, 2013 06:18 PM (CMlD4)

1192 1125

1) NYC elects socialist mayor
2) Socialist major jacks up City Income Tax
3) Hedge Funds and other money managers begin moving to Palm Beach
4) 50% of 30,000 tax payers who are 50% of City revenues are gone in 4 years
5) Real live reboot of Escape From New York

Posted by: phreshone at November 05, 2013 10:04 PM (Pr6hk)

Not so sure about that. Many of the hedge funds are located in CT, not NYC.

Posted by: Titanium at November 05, 2013 06:19 PM (IgOQg)

1193 Meck county.

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 05, 2013 06:19 PM (0FSuD)

1194 1182 WWWD?

"And then he'd hold it, and he'd hold it..."

Posted by: JarvisW at November 05, 2013 06:19 PM (E7Iyp)

1195 *click* *exhale* That'll do, sir. Much obliged. Posted by: Slapweasel -------------------- Funny that. I was just thinking the other day that for the boomers, the sound of a Zippo opening, being struck, and closed was universally recognizable. I wonder if there is a a ringtone?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 05, 2013 06:20 PM (aDwsi)

1196 >>If you see an Abortion coming at you RUN AWAY!!!! Shhh. Re-elected Republican governor in the state of NJ, Chris Chrisie, is giving his victory address. He may not be the perfect conservative but he's fucking light years better than the liberal he beat.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 05, 2013 06:20 PM (g1DWB)

1197 Nip - Ah. Ok..., perhaps you mentioned that before.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 05, 2013 06:20 PM (aDwsi)

1198 Hell, McDonnell didn't do anything to effect the rest of the country. - Guy Mohawk We'll, he certainly fucked us down here in southeast Va... All politics us local, right?

Posted by: shredded chi at November 05, 2013 06:20 PM (0IDyD)

1199 "Funny that. I was just thinking the other day that for the boomers, the sound of a Zippo opening, being struck, and closed was universally recognizable. I wonder if there is a a ringtone?"
Posted by: Mike Hammer

Heh. Bought my own Zippo when I turned eighteen.

*clink*

Posted by: Slapweasel at November 05, 2013 06:21 PM (lq3Ak)

1200 Mike Hammer, I'm just a nobody with a few good ideas. I think someone like Ace could take it much farther than I could. Think mass conservative marketing...hip...edgy...Red Eye-ish. Snark-PAC. The media can't stand to be mocked, so let's mock them.

Posted by: Ummberto Echo at November 05, 2013 06:22 PM (346rt)

1201 We'll, he certainly fucked us down here in southeast Va... All politics us local, right? Posted by: shredded chi ------------------- My relatives in the Abingdon/Damascus area aren't going to be happy.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 05, 2013 06:22 PM (aDwsi)

1202 1192 JackStraw,

for fuck's sakes the quid pro quo for the Chrispy Blowjob was Booker not being his opponent...

Chrispy beat a fucking ringer

Posted by: sven10077 at November 05, 2013 06:23 PM (9jfyN)

1203 Oh, Virginia's dead and gone. I say that as a Virginian. Virginia's a blue state now. Fuck, we elected Terry McAuliffe as governor. We are captured over here. Captured by the federal government, whose growing hive of worker bees have overwhelmed northern Virginia. They are big government people. They love their hive. Virginia and Maryland are now same-tracked. Big government is always better here, for now an forever. Yeah it sucks.

Posted by: Cowboy at November 05, 2013 06:24 PM (f73Jj)

1204 3. No matter who ran on the Republican and ticket and how well of a campaign that person ran, the guy would have been hindered by the fact VA has been drifting leftward due to Dem transplants, just like Colorado did and NH is doing.
Posted by: AD

The last Governor's race in VA went for the GOP by about 20 points, and Obama's approval rating is lower now than it was then.

The states demographics haven't changed that much since 2009, and the state still has a Republican legislature. It's an entirely winnable state for the GOP, but not for SoCon Culture Warriors.

That stuff doesn't even sell in places like Missouri and Indiana that are "deep red" states culturally, ask Mourdock and Akin.

Posted by: Jeepers at November 05, 2013 06:24 PM (XDRsa)

1205 McDonnell and Bolling could still save Virginia, pass a recission bill kicking Alexandria and Arlington back to DC on their way out the door.

I would forgive all their sins.

Posted by: Jean at November 05, 2013 06:25 PM (CMlD4)

1206 Christie: I will govern like the most destructive storm to hit our state in recent memory. Or... something like that.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 05, 2013 06:26 PM (DmNpO)

1207 >>or fuck's sakes the quid pro quo for the Chrispy Blowjob was Booker not being his opponent... >>Chrispy beat a fucking ringer Uh huh. He won by being a good politician while playing the game of politics. In freaking NJ. And you are complaining. And we wonder we we lose. Unbelievable.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 05, 2013 06:26 PM (g1DWB)

1208 I'm a Catholic but I've come to the conclusion that social issues are a dead end for Republicans and conservatives. We lost the culture war long ago, probably while St. Ronaldus Magnus was president, and we must get it through our thick skulls that for young women, a legal right to an abortion IS an economic issue. Let me be frank. Everybody's screwing around, and young people fuck each others brains out. They need that back-of-the mind escape hatch of a right to terminate their pregnancies so they are not knocked-up at seventeen and out of the party scene, out of the college scene, out of the career rat race. All the Democrats--or a reporter --need do is ask a single question about 'a woman's right to choose" to a Republican and the second he opens his mouth, the jig is up. Let devout Catholics and serious Evangelicals spread the Lord's Word, teach the Gospel to all and commence changing minds about the wickedness of abortion...but stop trying to do it at the ballot box.

Posted by: JoeyBagels at November 05, 2013 06:27 PM (Usdw3)

1209 Did anyone in Virginia ever see anything on TV related to that Fast Terry documentary produced by Citizens United? That was supposed to be the big knockout punch, but as far as I know it was a non-factor. I even donated a little scratch to help them air it, but no joy. What gives?

Posted by: Ummberto Echo at November 05, 2013 06:27 PM (346rt)

1210 Posted by: shredded chi

Yep, pretty much.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 05, 2013 06:27 PM (nKUHR)

1211 hh disregard my last post. 66 Republicans in the House of Delegates, the one Independent seat changed to Democrat. So 66-34. The numbers increased by 2 for Democrats. So the House of Delegates will be able to curtail any major damage that McAsshole wants to do hopefully. Posted by: Kaitian at November 05, 2013 10:17 PM (AFTTf) Any news on the state Senate?

Posted by: The Political Hat at November 05, 2013 06:28 PM (Vk2pI)

1212 >>>Uh huh. He won by being a good politician while playing the game of politics. In freaking NJ. And you are complaining. And we wonder we we lose.

Unbelievable.

You don't get it -- the point of posts like that is to invalidate Christie's accomplishment. To make it clear that no way, no how, can anything positive for the GOP or conservatism be taken away from a conservative Governor destroying a Democrat in an ultra-blue state.

Posted by: Jeff B. at November 05, 2013 06:28 PM (n/+FT)

1213 @1207

State senate not up for election this year.

Posted by: Pete at November 05, 2013 06:29 PM (TiZlI)

1214 1202 Niedermeyer's dead horse,

that I still haven't gotten FEMA to aid as much as Evil Chimpy did NOLA timeline for timeline.....

//Chrispy Chreme

George Bush hates blackfolk!

//Kanoe West

Posted by: sven10077 at November 05, 2013 06:29 PM (9jfyN)

1215 Uh huh. He won by being a good politician while playing the game of politics. In freaking NJ. And you are complaining. And we wonder we we lose. Unbelievable. *** NJ could, and has, done a helluva a lot worse than Christie. He isn't all bad. That said, I don't want him anywhere ckufing near D.C. Personally, I don't much care for him.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 05, 2013 06:30 PM (DmNpO)

1216 What about attorney general?

Posted by: hello, it's me also a creep-assed cracka.. at November 05, 2013 06:30 PM (9+ccr)

1217 The establishment GOP ignoring KC cost us that race, pure and simple. Level the funding, expose the ringer, and even bootlicking Demhumpers like Jeff and Uriah couldn't have stopped him from winning. Ah well, part of the process, I guess. If/when the GOP gets sick and tired of being sick and tired on election night maybe they'll coalesce around a coherent message and functional macro-campaign strategy. Until then, it looks like we can expect some more long nights like this one. Hopefully the 404Care albatross will be enough next year.

Posted by: Blacksheep at November 05, 2013 06:30 PM (bS6uW)

1218 Hey Jeff your boy toy blew a donk during the Presidential election....

"smart politics"

Posted by: sven10077 at November 05, 2013 06:31 PM (9jfyN)

1219 @1212

48 precincts left and Obenshain still up by about 17,900

Posted by: Pete at November 05, 2013 06:31 PM (TiZlI)

1220 Any news on the state Senate? Posted by: The Political Hat at November 05, 2013 10:28 PM (Vk2pI) The Senate is not up for election. Last election was in 2011 so they're all up every 4 years.

Posted by: Kaitian at November 05, 2013 06:32 PM (AFTTf)

1221 Good news! Obenshain looks like he's going to pull it out!

Posted by: Jeff B. at November 05, 2013 06:34 PM (n/+FT)

1222 1211 Niedermeyer's Dead Horse,

hey I'm certain the media has the Gop's best interests at heart and will stay in love with him.....

ask Juan McQueeg how that works.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 05, 2013 06:34 PM (9jfyN)

1223 >>Personally, I don't much care for him. Not my favorite either. What he did to Romney was pretty shitty. But he is solid pro-life and he won with a historic margin in NJ. Pro-life Cuccinelli lost in VA. Abortion is not likely to get overturned in either state anytime soon. Winning with a lesser candidate is better than losing with a better candidate.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 05, 2013 06:34 PM (g1DWB)

1224 Pete, probably not enough for the Rep.

Posted by: hello, it's me also a creep-assed cracka.. at November 05, 2013 06:34 PM (9+ccr)

1225 So the McAuliffe outspends KC by a 25-1 margin, and wins by less than 1%.? Sounds to me like VA is far from lost. The GOP and (libertarians) need to come together over issues that unite us: spending, anti Obamacare, low taxes. Stay away from wedge issues like abortion and gay marriage. And let's press Democrats on their wedge issue: gun control. Pro-Lifers aren't extremists...gun grabbers are. I don't know of any pro lifers who actually want to ban birth control; however most gun grabbers DO want to ban ALL guns. Gun control could be a winning social issue. Look at the recall elections in Colorado.

Posted by: Florida State alum at November 05, 2013 06:34 PM (Rk8LS)

1226 @1220

No; thinking Obenshain pulls it out by 15,000-17,000 margin.

Posted by: Pete at November 05, 2013 06:35 PM (TiZlI)

1227 Pete, where are you getting your updates

Posted by: Jean at November 05, 2013 06:36 PM (CMlD4)

1228 Pete, where are you getting your updates

Posted by: Jean at November 05, 2013 06:36 PM (CMlD4)

1229 Mike Duggan is the projected winner of the Detroit Mayoral race. He will be the first white mayor in 40 years. He defeated the well known current Sheriff of Wayne County, Benny Napoleon, who is black. I find it very sweet that the news outlets have talked about how US Rep. John Conyers was in attendence at Napoleon's election headquarters , ready to party...

Posted by: Jen at November 05, 2013 06:36 PM (YM8HR)

1230 Mike Duggan is the projected winner of the Detroit Mayoral race. He will be the first white mayor in 40 years. He defeated the well known current Sheriff of Wayne County, Benny Napoleon, who is black. I find it very sweet that the news outlets have talked about how US Rep. John Conyers was in attendence at Napoleon's election headquarters , ready to party...

Posted by: Jen at November 05, 2013 06:36 PM (YM8HR)

1231 38 precincts left; Obenshain increases lead to 22,100

Posted by: Pete at November 05, 2013 06:36 PM (TiZlI)

1232 38 precincts left; Obenshain increases lead to 22,100

Posted by: Pete at November 05, 2013 06:36 PM (TiZlI)

1233 I'm not a big Christie fan, but I have zero doubt that Team Clinton fears him the most. NJ in the red column is like Texas being flipped to the Democrats.

Also, I see Christie having the ability to knock some heads and straighten out the idiot wing of the GOP.

Posted by: Jeepers at November 05, 2013 06:37 PM (XDRsa)

1234 I'm not a big Christie fan, but I have zero doubt that Team Clinton fears him the most. NJ in the red column is like Texas being flipped to the Democrats.

Also, I see Christie having the ability to knock some heads and straighten out the idiot wing of the GOP.

Posted by: Jeepers at November 05, 2013 06:37 PM (XDRsa)

1235 Picture profound words of encouragement in this space. I wrote them. Some where. Some when.

Good Night Y'all

Posted by: Joethefatman™ (@joethefatman1) at November 05, 2013 06:37 PM (MnSla)

1236 hey I'm certain the media has the Gop's best interests at heart and will stay in love with him..... ask Juan McQueeg how that works. *** Of course they do!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 05, 2013 06:37 PM (DmNpO)

1237 Picture profound words of encouragement in this space. I wrote them. Some where. Some when.

Good Night Y'all

Posted by: Joethefatman™ (@joethefatman1) at November 05, 2013 06:37 PM (MnSla)

1238 hey I'm certain the media has the Gop's best interests at heart and will stay in love with him..... ask Juan McQueeg how that works. *** Of course they do!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 05, 2013 06:37 PM (DmNpO)

1239 http://electionresults.virginia.gov/resultsSW.aspx?type=SWR&map=CTY State BOE

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at November 05, 2013 06:37 PM (l3vZN)

1240 http://electionresults.virginia.gov/resultsSW.aspx?type=SWR&map=CTY State BOE

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at November 05, 2013 06:37 PM (l3vZN)

1241 Jean; getting the votes off the State website.

Posted by: Pete at November 05, 2013 06:37 PM (TiZlI)

1242 Jean; getting the votes off the State website.

Posted by: Pete at November 05, 2013 06:37 PM (TiZlI)

1243 I'm a Virginian who works as a federal contractor. My office borders DC. I look across the river and see it. I'm essentially alone in my group of 500 people in that I do not commute from Fredricksburg, VA or Stafford, VA. I actually live "inside the Beltway", which is not as fabulous as that sounds. It kinda sucks really. And it is very expensive for what I get. I am not a rich Beltway Bandit by any means. An amazing amount of luxury $mil+ homes are in close proximity to where I live, but I don't live in such a place. I got a crappy townhouse that leans when the wind blows, and I feel that wind from the inside. Whole place shakes when somebody closes the front door. Pay $1200 a month for this craphole and count myself lucky. The better place is down south, Fredricksburg or Stafford. You get a lot more bang for your buck down there. So that's why all my colleagues are down there. Suffering a very murderous, brutal commute to go back an forth everyday. Because anybody with sense is commuting to DC from far away. It is a very murderous and brutal commute, and that's why I've chosen to stay within the Beltway. But, when they come into work, and I see them walking in bleary-eyed from their long commute, I realize how far away they live. And how far the tentacles emanating from this town of DC reach. DC's a cancer. It's metasticized in Virginia. We're at Stage Four. It's bad.

Posted by: Cowboy at November 05, 2013 06:37 PM (f73Jj)

1244 I'm a Virginian who works as a federal contractor. My office borders DC. I look across the river and see it. I'm essentially alone in my group of 500 people in that I do not commute from Fredricksburg, VA or Stafford, VA. I actually live "inside the Beltway", which is not as fabulous as that sounds. It kinda sucks really. And it is very expensive for what I get. I am not a rich Beltway Bandit by any means. An amazing amount of luxury $mil+ homes are in close proximity to where I live, but I don't live in such a place. I got a crappy townhouse that leans when the wind blows, and I feel that wind from the inside. Whole place shakes when somebody closes the front door. Pay $1200 a month for this craphole and count myself lucky. The better place is down south, Fredricksburg or Stafford. You get a lot more bang for your buck down there. So that's why all my colleagues are down there. Suffering a very murderous, brutal commute to go back an forth everyday. Because anybody with sense is commuting to DC from far away. It is a very murderous and brutal commute, and that's why I've chosen to stay within the Beltway. But, when they come into work, and I see them walking in bleary-eyed from their long commute, I realize how far away they live. And how far the tentacles emanating from this town of DC reach. DC's a cancer. It's metasticized in Virginia. We're at Stage Four. It's bad.

Posted by: Cowboy at November 05, 2013 06:37 PM (f73Jj)

1245 Obenshain will win since there are only 38 precincts left. However it might be subjected to recount. There's no way with the amount of voters in 38 precincts for it to be overwhelmingly for the other candidate to close the gap.

Posted by: Kaitian at November 05, 2013 06:37 PM (AFTTf)

1246 Obenshain will win since there are only 38 precincts left. However it might be subjected to recount. There's no way with the amount of voters in 38 precincts for it to be overwhelmingly for the other candidate to close the gap.

Posted by: Kaitian at November 05, 2013 06:37 PM (AFTTf)

1247 ny news on the state Senate? Posted by: The Political Hat at November 05, 2013 10:28 PM (Vk2pI) The Senate is not up for election. Last election was in 2011 so they're all up every 4 years. Posted by: Kaitian at November 05, 2013 10:32 PM (AFTTf) Unusual for a state to do that, but Michigan, IIRC, has something similar but with elections at same time as Gov. But with the Dem Lt. Gov. candidate winning, will there be a special election to fill his state Senate seat? If so, what chance is there of the GOP picking it up and securing control of the state Senate?

Posted by: The Political Hat at November 05, 2013 06:38 PM (Vk2pI)

1248 ny news on the state Senate? Posted by: The Political Hat at November 05, 2013 10:28 PM (Vk2pI) The Senate is not up for election. Last election was in 2011 so they're all up every 4 years. Posted by: Kaitian at November 05, 2013 10:32 PM (AFTTf) Unusual for a state to do that, but Michigan, IIRC, has something similar but with elections at same time as Gov. But with the Dem Lt. Gov. candidate winning, will there be a special election to fill his state Senate seat? If so, what chance is there of the GOP picking it up and securing control of the state Senate?

Posted by: The Political Hat at November 05, 2013 06:38 PM (Vk2pI)

1249 1226 Jeepers,

yeah like Romney flipped Massholia....

Posted by: sven10077 at November 05, 2013 06:39 PM (9jfyN)

1250 Isn't the VA rule for recounts less than 1%

Posted by: Jean at November 05, 2013 06:40 PM (CMlD4)

1251 Cowboy! There is poetry in those words....

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at November 05, 2013 06:40 PM (l3vZN)

1252 PH,

GOP has a very decent chance of picking up that seat. Not a very Lib district at all.

Posted by: Pete at November 05, 2013 06:40 PM (TiZlI)

1253 Watching this disaster unfold here in VA, I've come to the conclusion that people are wasting oxygen. They believed the bullshit that McAuliffe spouted in his ads, including his robocalls today saying that Cooch supported Obamacare. Really.

As I said before, there are otherwise intelligent people in this state who swallowed Mcdipshit's ads without exception. They would have believed the following:

Ken Cuccinelli wants to tie women down and forcibly impregnate them with bull semen to create his own bull-headed warriors on women. Please don't let Cuccinelli force women to create minotaur rapists.

I'm Terry McAuliffe and I approve this message.

You think I'm joking, but if I had created a YouTube ad saying that, there would lefties shrieking about it on Facebook.

Posted by: physics geek at November 05, 2013 06:40 PM (llWHs)

1254 sven- If you're going to move to Canada and or vote for a Democrat next election why do you care about all of this?

Posted by: JackStraw at November 05, 2013 06:41 PM (g1DWB)

1255 >>>Isn't the VA rule for recounts less than 1%

Yes but once absentees are counted Obenshain's margin may well shrink beneath 1%.

Posted by: Jeff B. at November 05, 2013 06:41 PM (n/+FT)

1256 McAsshole will have to call a special election in order to fill in the vacant seat. The voting happens around the holidays aka Christmas.

Posted by: Kaitian at November 05, 2013 06:42 PM (AFTTf)

1257 Not my favorite either. What he did to Romney was pretty shitty. But he is solid pro-life and he won with a historic margin in NJ. Pro-life Cuccinelli lost in VA. Abortion is not likely to get overturned in either state anytime soon. Winning with a lesser candidate is better than losing with a better candidate. *** He might be a case of being perfect.... for NJ. He's about as Republican as you can probably elect in that state by any meaningful magin. He's won over Dems, which is damned hard to do. Christie IS NJ: He's big and he's regularly a loud-mouth. But, despite what many on the right say, he is a Republican. He's not a Conservative Republican, but he's a Republican.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 05, 2013 06:42 PM (DmNpO)

1258 Huh? There was a governor's race in VA today? Why doesn't anyone ever tell me this stuff?

Posted by: Reince Priebus at November 05, 2013 06:43 PM (Yhu4q)

1259 If there is a recount for attorney general we lose... we always do...

Posted by: hello, it's me also a creep-assed cracka.. at November 05, 2013 06:43 PM (9+ccr)

1260 Ken Cuccinelli wants to tie women down and forcibly impregnate them with bull semen to create his own bull-headed warriors on women. Please don't let Cuccinelli force women to create minotaur rapists. LOL ... wait that shit wasn't true?! Sadly, the power of block-messaging media to misinform dumb people knows no bounds.

Posted by: Blacksheep at November 05, 2013 06:43 PM (bS6uW)

1261 Yes but once absentees are counted Obenshain's margin may well shrink beneath 1%. *** Are they asking about the guv race?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 05, 2013 06:44 PM (DmNpO)

1262 1239 JackStraw,

I aim to help the noble left work their magic ese.

I won't migrate 'til ~2018ish....

I gave a quarter century to the stupid party, time to exert corrective influence

Posted by: sven10077 at November 05, 2013 06:44 PM (9jfyN)

1263 But with the Dem Lt. Gov. candidate winning, will there be a special election to fill his state Senate seat?

If so, what chance is there of the GOP picking it up and securing control of the state Senate? Posted by: The Political Hat

Its a winnable seat Hat, it was R before Northam (who is a very Conservative Dem - Army MD, VMI graduate)

Posted by: Jean at November 05, 2013 06:45 PM (CMlD4)

1264 Christie's a bloviating jackass who helped Obama get re-elected, but I would vote for his back fat over any Dem.

Posted by: Blacksheep at November 05, 2013 06:45 PM (bS6uW)

1265 1249 Christie's a bloviating jackass who helped Obama get re-elected, but I would vote for his back fat over any Dem. Posted by: Blacksheep at November 05, 2013 10:45 PM (bS6uW) Sadly so would I

Posted by: hello, it's me also a creep-assed cracka.. at November 05, 2013 06:46 PM (9+ccr)

1266 LOL ... wait that shit wasn't true?! Sadly, the power of block-messaging media to misinform dumb people knows no bounds.

You should see my FB feed. My lefty friends are completely and totally batshit insane. One of them even posted an Onion-style parody as "see how evil Cruz is!!!". When lots of people pointed out that it was, um, bullshit, her response was "well, it's what he would say anyway". There's no reasoning with people like that.

Posted by: physics geek at November 05, 2013 06:47 PM (llWHs)

1267 >>He's not a Conservative Republican, but he's a Republican. Just out of curiosity, lets pretend Christie won or Cruz won the presidency in 2016. What exactly do you think they would do differently? Not argumentative, just curious.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 05, 2013 06:48 PM (g1DWB)

1268 1249 Christie's a bloviating jackass who helped Obama get re-elected, but I would vote for his back fat over any Dem. Posted by: Blacksheep at November 05, 2013 10:45 PM (bS6uW) It wasn't only that. He kept arriving late at campaign stops embarrassing the crap out of Romney on the campaign trail. He also kept withholding his endorsement until the very last minute where it was too ineffective. Big name but has little effect when it's used ineffectively. His name is only useful in helping prop up Democratic candidates in order to make them appear "bipartisan".

Posted by: Kaitian at November 05, 2013 06:48 PM (AFTTf)

1269 26 precincts left, Obenshain up by 13,600

Posted by: Pete at November 05, 2013 06:49 PM (TiZlI)

1270 And how far the tentacles emanating from this town of DC reach. DC's a cancer. It's metasticized in Virginia. We're at Stage Four. It's bad. *** Cancer can only survive so long as the host survives. We need to starve the assholes of oxygen. Let's pray that 2014 is a win for our side and the money that flows like honey into ingratiating so many to the trappings of DC can be stifled.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 05, 2013 06:49 PM (DmNpO)

1271 1249 Blacksheep,

Had McCain not happened maybe....

had Romney not played his game this week on Ogabecare maybe....

I'm pretty dumb but I am detecting a pattern.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 05, 2013 06:49 PM (9jfyN)

1272 Eff Virginia. They're idiots and deserve exactly the governance they're going to get. We're one of the few nations on earth that deserve the gov't we've got. We were given the gift of liberty and pissed it away. Idiots in VA show how it happened.

Posted by: Miss Scarlett at November 05, 2013 06:49 PM (QbKVX)

1273 So the NJ Board of Elections updated, and Chris Christie...won the Hispanic vote outright. 51%. In New Jersey.

Wow.

Posted by: Jeff B. at November 05, 2013 06:49 PM (n/+FT)

1274 Obenshain ahead by 15,700 (3/4%), 26 precincts to go...

Posted by: the Count at November 05, 2013 06:50 PM (nLIMC)

1275 It wasn't only that. He kept arriving late at campaign stops embarrassing the crap out of Romney on the campaign trail. He also kept withholding his endorsement until the very last minute where it was too ineffective. Big name but has little effect when it's used ineffectively. His name is only useful in helping prop up Democratic candidates in order to make them appear "bipartisan". *** Quite prickish behavior, indeed.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 05, 2013 06:50 PM (DmNpO)

1276 1254 26 precincts left, Obenshain up by 13,600 Are they big Dem areas?

Posted by: hello, it's me also a creep-assed cracka.. at November 05, 2013 06:50 PM (9+ccr)

1277 VA AG 50.27/49.52 Obenshain (R) 2515 out of 2541 prcts. reporting about 16,000 votes

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at November 05, 2013 06:50 PM (l3vZN)

1278 Its a winnable seat Hat, it was R before Northam (who is a very Conservative Dem - Army MD, VMI graduate)

let me add, it will interesting to see how McAuliffe handles Northam. He might not be able to count on Northam giving him the tie-breaker vote in the Senate on anything too liberal. And, Northam will always be ready to step up if something dirty finds its way into Obenshain's hands for an investigation. If your a Dim in Richmond, Northam is your future, not McAuliffe.

Posted by: Jean at November 05, 2013 06:50 PM (CMlD4)

1279 Sure, Christie is a Republican. He is also a leftist. I don't vote for leftists no matter what the letter follows their name on the ballot.

Posted by: WVinMN at November 05, 2013 06:50 PM (Dge+E)

1280 1264 Sure, Christie is a Republican. He is also a leftist. I don't vote for leftists no matter what the letter follows their name on the ballot. Say hello to President hillary then...

Posted by: hello, it's me also a creep-assed cracka.. at November 05, 2013 06:51 PM (9+ccr)

1281 sorry; math is hard; make that 15,600

Posted by: Pete at November 05, 2013 06:51 PM (TiZlI)

1282 Just out of curiosity, lets pretend Christie won or Cruz won the presidency in 2016. What exactly do you think they would do differently? Not argumentative, just curious. *** the first thing that comes to mind is foreign policy. I don't believe either would sit back and allow the shitholes of the world to make us their bitch.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 05, 2013 06:51 PM (DmNpO)

1283 Just in case nobody else has said it... Fuck you, Sarvis! You selfish sonofabitch!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 05, 2013 06:53 PM (DmNpO)

1284 1252... How about this...What would either of them do that would be even remotely similar? We can count those on one hand I imagine.

Posted by: WVinMN at November 05, 2013 06:53 PM (Dge+E)

1285 >>the first thing that comes to mind is foreign policy. I don't believe either would sit back and allow the shitholes of the world to make us their bitch. Agreed. But what do you think they would do differently?

Posted by: JackStraw at November 05, 2013 06:53 PM (g1DWB)

1286 We had a black Republican running for Lt Gov in Virginia today. He was awesome. Very interesting guy! At his debate his white Dem opponent flat out refused to shake his hand. Flat out. Made a point of it. Brought hate to the table. Our lovely local Democrats ran out in droves and promptly elected the hater. Because, racism!

Posted by: Cowboy at November 05, 2013 06:54 PM (f73Jj)

1287 If he's president, Cruz should withdraw out of every fucking shithole we don't need to be in. I'm tired of seeing news articles about our soldiers and our allies being shot by locals in the countries we've intervened in. No more intervention. Just passive resistance rather than pro-active crap like Bush/Obama did.

Posted by: Kaitian at November 05, 2013 06:54 PM (AFTTf)

1288 Winning with a lesser candidate is better than losing with a better candidate.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 05, 2013 10:42 PM (DmNpO)

Indeed. We ignore "The Buckley Rule" at our peril.

Posted by: HTL at November 05, 2013 06:54 PM (DV75s)

1289 Final tally with 99% of votes counted put it at about a 1.5% victory for McAuliffe. Now, step back for a moment, folks: For MONTHS McAuliffe has had a lead ranging from 20% down to maybe at the lowest outlier 4%. Most polls had him 8% - 13% up in final weeks. No one really truly expected Cuccinelli to win. Maybe it was a crazy-dream hail mary longshot, but would anyone have bet the food money on Cuccinelli? No. Not even a die-hard supporter. It was at best at wild "maybe we can overcome the wild odds against us" type of deal. In the end, he came up short. BUT, barely short. Close enough to be painful. But seen from the other angle, close enough to have scared the living daylights out of the Dems. Why? Because it was Obama's anti-coattails that dragged down McAuliffe. That's the key detail here. The United Staes of America will not survive or fall based on who is governor of Virginia. But if the election demonstrates that Obama is a walking political toxin, then we're in good shape for the next three years. Henceforth, whenever humanly possible, moderate and vulnerable Dems will now do everything they can to distance themselves and subtly undermine Obama, to prove their separateness from him Obama will be thereby weakened. To the benefit of the nation. The demonstration of Obama's toxicity is a much more important result than the election of Virginia's governor.

Posted by: zombie at November 05, 2013 06:54 PM (+cx5n)

1290 1265 hello it's...

yeah so uh we lose our guns and have a Muslim brotherhood loving amnesty favoring PotUS....

er either way

Posted by: sven10077 at November 05, 2013 06:55 PM (9jfyN)

1291 I'm not surprised Christie won the Hispanic vote in NJ. There's alot of Puerto Ricans and Cubans who have been here for decades. There are also plenty of small business owning Dominicans. Mexicans are not really a political factor. Yet.

Posted by: JoeyBagels at November 05, 2013 06:55 PM (Usdw3)

1292 1271 cowboy,

you noticed that did you?

Posted by: sven10077 at November 05, 2013 06:56 PM (9jfyN)

1293 Any updates on Attorney general?

Posted by: hello, it's me also a creep-assed cracka.. at November 05, 2013 06:56 PM (9+ccr)

1294 Zombie, I agree, but your insights rely on an independent media to bring the message to the masses. There I am afraid we will come up short.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at November 05, 2013 06:57 PM (l3vZN)

1295 Just amout of curiosity, lets pretend Christie won or Cruz won the presidency in 2016. What exactly do you think they would do differently? Not argumentative, just curious. I am betting there would not be a Medicare part e, or no left child behinds program with Cruz. Christie I am sure would "let's see what we can do with Obamacare to make it better." And the answer wouldn't be "scrap it."

Posted by: traye at November 05, 2013 06:58 PM (+ayj2)

1296 1265 1264 Sure, Christie is a Republican. He is also a leftist. I don't vote for leftists no matter what the letter follows their name on the ballot.

Say hello to President hillary then...

Posted by: hello, it's me also a creep-assed cracka.. at November 05, 2013 10:51 PM (9+ccr)

The dems must be picking the republican candidate again. Was just told by a liberal democrat that she'd vote for Christie over hillary. Don't think hillary will run, she doesn't want to lose again.

Posted by: just a citizen at November 05, 2013 06:58 PM (Nx76m)

1297 Agreed. But what do you think they would do differently? *** Oh! I misunderstood. You mean as related to the other. This list assumes 'would do' not 'can do'. Obamacare - draw Foreign policy - edge to Cruz. He'll strike fear without alienating allies. More diplomatic. Smaller Govt - draw Gun Control - Cruz. Strong edge Pro-life - draw?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 05, 2013 06:59 PM (DmNpO)

1298 I agree with Zombie; McAuliffe's win is a win, sure, but he underperformed big time for the money spent. And a solid GOP legislature means he gets zero done. I think he's going to prove to be the worthless hack that he is and he will ultimately hurt Dems in Va. JMO.

Posted by: Pete at November 05, 2013 06:59 PM (TiZlI)

1299 1278 AG race: 20 precincts to go, ahead by 12,546 (0.6%)

Posted by: the Count at November 05, 2013 06:59 PM (nLIMC)

1300 Pete at November 05, 2013 10:59 PM (TiZlI) any new numbers for AG?

Posted by: hello, it's me also a creep-assed cracka.. at November 05, 2013 06:59 PM (9+ccr)

1301 20 precincts left. Obenshain up by 12,500

Posted by: Pete at November 05, 2013 07:00 PM (TiZlI)

1302 Just amout of curiosity, lets pretend Christie won or Cruz won the presidency in 2016. What exactly do you think they would do differently?

Not argumentative, just curious.

Cruz could appoint himself to the SCOTUS after mid-terms in his second term.

Posted by: Jean at November 05, 2013 07:00 PM (CMlD4)

1303 1265... No difference, so no skin off my back. Fuck them both, because both will FUCK this country.

Posted by: WVinMN at November 05, 2013 07:00 PM (Dge+E)

1304 mc call if's job is to deliver his state for the dems once and for all.

Posted by: just a citizen at November 05, 2013 07:00 PM (Nx76m)

1305 1278 AG race: 20 precincts to go, ahead by 12,546 (0.6%) Thanks new numbers. Any good Conservative districts left?

Posted by: hello, it's me also a creep-assed cracka.. at November 05, 2013 07:01 PM (9+ccr)

1306 >>I am betting there would not be a Medicare part e, or no left child behinds program with Cruz. Christie I am sure would "let's see what we can do with Obamacare to make it better." And the answer wouldn't be "scrap it." I'm betting we're broke and there isn't a Republican in the country who doesn't know this. Also betting there isn't a Republican above or below ground who doesn't know that getting rid of Obamacare will not only be required it will be easy in 2016. So what else?

Posted by: JackStraw at November 05, 2013 07:01 PM (g1DWB)

1307 What makes you think it won't be rand paul and susanna martinez running against hillary and biden?

Posted by: just a citizen at November 05, 2013 07:01 PM (Nx76m)

1308

I assume people are reasonably intelligent until they prove otherwise.

Posted by: ace at November 05, 2013 09:27 PM (/FnUH)

........Seriously Ace, really? Look at the last 2 pres. elections.

I guess maybe you mean your posters here and you are probably right. Tho they may disagree and fight tooth and nail, I'm sure they are WAY above the average intelligence.

The American genpop, not so much hope for them. But what amazes me is even some "smart people" buy into Obama's crap.

Went to the in-laws 60th anniv. in AZ, had to tolerate the lib SIL & BIL. Now my wife and I aren't dunces, but her sis is way genius, yet she still defended Obama's website, as they "needed time to integrate things". Wife shot her down w/ they had 3 years and I know how to do those things, this is inexcusable and the cost is obscene. BTW, SIL is high up in her state education system, so defending the system works for her.

Liberalism & govt. employment makes smart people into idiots IMO.

Posted by: The Farmer at November 05, 2013 07:01 PM (eBupg)

1309 Indeed. We ignore "The Buckley Rule" at our peril. *** That was actually the remark to which I was responding. I didn't say it and don't completely agree with it. I don't, for instance, think McCain would have been much better than Obama. Just an asshole in other ways.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 05, 2013 07:02 PM (DmNpO)

1310 BTW, there is only one lesson from the VA race and that is the GOP needs to stop the big government bandwagon fast. People who work for the government vote Demcratic, overwhelmingly. I don't care what their politics were before they got the job, they might as well issue their Demcratic voter registration card with their first paycheck. They have turned a red state blue simply by hiring enough voters. There was only one issue in this campaign that mattered for a great number Virginians and that was who was most likely to keep the gravy train rolling.

Posted by: Rocks at November 05, 2013 07:02 PM (vR0sZ)

1311 Zombie, I appreciate your analysis, really, I do. But, how the Fcuk we pose to a criminal like McAzshole?

Posted by: shredded chi at November 05, 2013 07:02 PM (0IDyD)

1312 What makes you think it won't be rand paul and susanna martinez running against hillary and biden? *** I love Rand, but Martinez stinked up the purity patrol with her expansion of Medicaid.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 05, 2013 07:03 PM (DmNpO)

1313 Virginia AG: 14 precincts to go, ahead by 11,881 (0.56%). Looks good.

Posted by: the Count at November 05, 2013 07:04 PM (nLIMC)

1314 zombie: that's why I'm wondering about all the angst on this thread. I didn't expect Cuccinelli to win. I expected him to be beaten rather badly because of NoVa. He did much better than I thought he would. It looks like a lot of people were fully expecting a miracle and became enraged when it didn't happen.

Posted by: Donna V. at November 05, 2013 07:05 PM (R3gO3)

1315 *Lose.

Posted by: shredded chi at November 05, 2013 07:05 PM (0IDyD)

1316 1291 There isn't a republican who doesn't know we are broke??? Better tell that to the ones in the Senate who just pushed to give Obama unfettered access to more debt.

Posted by: traye at November 05, 2013 07:05 PM (+ayj2)

1317 AG will probably be an auto recount, but would expect that will hold.

Posted by: Pete at November 05, 2013 07:06 PM (TiZlI)

1318 AG will probably be an auto recount, but would expect that will hold. Hate the thought as we almost always come out the loser in recounts...

Posted by: hello, it's me also a creep-assed cracka.. at November 05, 2013 07:07 PM (9+ccr)

1319 Still too close for my liking

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at November 05, 2013 07:07 PM (l3vZN)

1320 Cruz v. Chrispy Creme

Amnesty?

Posted by: 404Virginia at November 05, 2013 07:08 PM (PZA0f)

1321 Great, see, thats what a 3rd party always does. It always pisses me off that our base throws a temper tantrum if the candidate isnt perfect and either votes 3rd party or refuses to vote to "send a message" to rep HQ Because of it, a dem sits in the VA govs house A dem sits in the White House. A sex addict won in 92 and it won us Woodrow Wilson. Can we stop it, please? And bite our tongue and vote R. And vote R every single time. And praise the R to the rafters until he defeats the democrat. Pouting that the perfect conservative didn't win has never sent any message, it just results in a liberal victory

Posted by: Stone at November 05, 2013 07:08 PM (0arZS)

1322 1299 Donna V,

b/c the party is gonna try to run SoCon after fucking up a very winnable race through apathy and butthurt....

I figured we'd lose by 5...we damn near pulled it out

Posted by: sven10077 at November 05, 2013 07:09 PM (9jfyN)

1323 all prcts are in Fx Co

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at November 05, 2013 07:09 PM (l3vZN)

1324 Nobody ever seems to mention Jindal any more, yet he looks like he's doing a good job in LA. He made a lot of good reforms to the state healthcare system and published articles prior to the passage of Obamamess in the WSJ with suggestions for reforming the system (and all those suggestions were of course ignored). As Ocare becomes ever more of a stink bomb, don't you think Bobby's star will rise in the party? He seems to be down there just quietly doing his job and not showboating around.

Posted by: Donna V. at November 05, 2013 07:11 PM (R3gO3)

1325 Bill Kristol, believe it or not, just made a good point. Cooch
outperformed Romney in VA, and Romney wasn't the Tea Party candidate.

So much for the demise of those racist, arsonist terrorists, huh?

Posted by: Albie Damned at November 05, 2013 09:49 PM (Yhu4q)

Which shows that the anger about TFG-Care is deep and burning hot. And it's only getting started.

Can the hapless hacks in the GOP in DC capitalize on this??

Posted by: PJ at November 05, 2013 07:11 PM (ZWaLo)

1326 they are still stuffing ballot boxes in Norfolk

Posted by: Jean at November 05, 2013 07:12 PM (CMlD4)

1327 all Arlington and Alexandria are in

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at November 05, 2013 07:12 PM (l3vZN)

1328 One puzzle: the networks are reporting 56,000 more votes counted than the state elections office, and the networks have the Dems about 11,000 votes better off than the elections office. No way to know from the outside who's right, but this is a big enough difference to throw the AG race completely up in the air.

Posted by: the Count at November 05, 2013 07:12 PM (nLIMC)

1329 1313 One puzzle: the networks are reporting 56,000 more votes counted than the state elections office, and the networks have the Dems about 11,000 votes better off than the elections office. No way to know from the outside who's right, but this is a big enough difference to throw the AG race completely up in the air. Posted by: the Count at November 05, 2013 11:12 PM (nLIMC) Oh, oh...

Posted by: hello, it's me also a creep-assed cracka.. at November 05, 2013 07:13 PM (9+ccr)

1330 when do the absentee and military votes drop

Posted by: Jean at November 05, 2013 07:13 PM (CMlD4)

1331 Norfolk is not good.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at November 05, 2013 07:14 PM (l3vZN)

1332 2 prcts. in Norfolk City out

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at November 05, 2013 07:15 PM (l3vZN)

1333 Henceforth, whenever humanly possible, moderate and vulnerable Dems will now do everything they can to distance themselves and subtly undermine Obama, to prove their separateness from him Obama will be thereby weakened. To the benefit of the nation. The demonstration of Obama's toxicity is a much more important result than the election of Virginia's governor. THIS !!!

Posted by: BuilderDoug at November 05, 2013 07:15 PM (exLcg)

1334 oddly three print shops are still open in Norfolk City

Posted by: Jean at November 05, 2013 07:15 PM (CMlD4)

1335 Oy. This AG race is down to the wire. Insane.

Posted by: Jeff B. at November 05, 2013 07:15 PM (n/+FT)

1336 1317 you mean Norfolk precincts are potential 95-100 percent dem?

Posted by: Jane at November 05, 2013 07:16 PM (KDAAY)

1337 Newport News, Va Beach, Petersburg and Richmond City are all in....so are Loudoun and Pr. Wm Co. Where are the other 10?

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at November 05, 2013 07:17 PM (l3vZN)

1338

1320 Oy. This AG race is down to the wire. Insane. Posted by: Jeff B. at November 05, 2013 11:15 PM (n/+FT)

Now that sucks. I was taking comfort in that win.

Posted by: Donna V. at November 05, 2013 07:18 PM (R3gO3)

1339 you mean Norfolk precincts are potential 95-100 percent dem?

Potential 115% dem,

Posted by: Jean at November 05, 2013 07:18 PM (CMlD4)

1340 Okay, 2 friggin points. And out spent by 3 or 4 to one. Where was the Rep. Gov. Association? Ya know, the people we pay to fund elections campaigns? Bah - they don't want to be conservatives, they want to be statists in charge. Sigh.

Posted by: Mike L at November 05, 2013 07:19 PM (yDVOv)

1341 My guess is that the VA. Statehouse will keep McAuliffe in check enough that he doesn't do complete irreversible damage to the state, yet he will manage to become a shining beacon of what truly is wrong with Dem lib politicians and could be used as a great foil by Republican candidates. Sorry to use you VA. for such a task, but you volunteered for it.

Posted by: Jen at November 05, 2013 07:19 PM (YM8HR)

1342 BoE just went to +7K for Obenshain

Posted by: Jean at November 05, 2013 07:20 PM (CMlD4)

1343 >>There isn't a republican who doesn't know we are broke??? >>Better tell that to the ones in the Senate who just pushed to give Obama unfettered access to more debt. Didn't happen. Do you know how this works? You play chicken with the debt ceiling and despite what conservative talking heads say you are playing with fire. Sorry, guys who get paid to talk all day have no fucking idea how the world financial markets work. They get paid to say inflammatory shit with zero blowback when the shit they say proves wrong. Like Rush saying that conservative principles always win. Not true but none of his faithful says boo when it proves wrong. They just blame the establishment. You want to reign in the debt, win elections. That simple.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 05, 2013 07:20 PM (g1DWB)

1344 Frederick Co/winchester came in a while ago and crushed the Dem delegate candidate here.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at November 05, 2013 07:20 PM (l3vZN)

1345 I seem to recall Jindal causing a lot of heart ache for ol' LGF. So there's possibly the SoCon thing hurting him. I think it was something to do with Exorcisms that Johnson was bitching about.

Posted by: Shoot Me at November 05, 2013 07:20 PM (qiXMt)

1346 Dave Wasserman at @redistrict says that Herring is going to win the race. Absentees taking him over the top.

Goddammit.

Posted by: Jeff B. at November 05, 2013 07:21 PM (n/+FT)

1347 I think this one is going down the tubes, my friend. a dozen prcts still out.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at November 05, 2013 07:23 PM (l3vZN)

1348

Condolences to VA from the formerly conservative, late great state of CA. Now you get to listen to names like Virginiafornication and people wishing you fall into the Atlantic ocean in the next natural disaster. Protest all you want. No one will ever believe you were once conservative.

You're toast.

Texas is next.

Posted by: misty at November 05, 2013 07:28 PM (MKc4O)

1349 1 precint in Bedford - assume RED
1 in Mecklenburg - assume RED
2 in Nofolk City - assume DEEP BLUE
1 in PW County - push
1 in Roanoke City - assume BLUE
1 in Rockingham - assume RED
++++++++++++++++++++++++

Norfolk City is the problem

Posted by: Jean at November 05, 2013 07:29 PM (CMlD4)

1350 Oh, yeah, I forgot about the damn exorcisms. Ah, crap, there's always some stupid baggage for us. I'm Catholic. I know a ton of Catholics. I don't know one person who has ever been involved with an exorcism - but the gov. of LA who has been doing a good job, had to go to one and write about it - and the MSM will make a very intelligent guy look like a male Christine O'Donnell.

Posted by: Donna V. at November 05, 2013 07:30 PM (R3gO3)

1351 Hey Jackstraw, how did "winning elections" with your boy Bush and Co. work out for the country? Shored our debt right up, huh Jack?And the only thing we can learn from the results coming out of NJ is that a fat fucking marxist who cut deals with islamists, race baiters, gay anarchists, gun banners, etc. can win reelection in a marxist state.

Posted by: WVinMN at November 05, 2013 07:30 PM (Dge+E)

1352 Nahfuck, Jean.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at November 05, 2013 07:31 PM (l3vZN)

1353 Good night fellow 'Ron's and 'ettes. Get fired up for 2014. Hopefully I wake up in 4 hours and my fellow Hokie Obenshain is AG.

Posted by: Pete at November 05, 2013 07:33 PM (TiZlI)

1354 I'll say it again for all 5 of us still down here: it doesn't matter how you groom and re-arrange the Republican platform. It. Does. Not. Matter. Emphasizing fiscal issues will not allow us to escape the withering fire being directed at us by the media, and that fire will consist of WhYdooUUUh8Wimminz???!!!??? no matter how many spreadsheets we pull out of our asses. What will change this is nothing less than a deliberate, long-term effort to both polarize and humiliate specific media figures and outlets, and simultaneously to mock the shit out of progressivism as a fundamentally unserious political philosophy.

Posted by: Ummberto Echo at November 05, 2013 07:34 PM (346rt)

1355 "Condolences to VA from the formerly conservative, late great state of CA. Now you get to listen to names like Virginiafornication and people wishing you fall into the Atlantic ocean in the next natural disaster. Protest all you want. No one will ever believe you were once conservative. You're toast. Texas is next." Good heavens, VA has had five Democrat governors since 1982. They still have a Republican Statehouse. For heaven's sake, Tim Kaine was Gov. of VA at the same time he was the Democratic National Chairman and he is currently their Senator. It's not like suddenly VA is electing Democrats..... This too shall pass.

Posted by: Jen at November 05, 2013 07:34 PM (YM8HR)

1356 misty - VA's state house is still GOP.

Posted by: Donna V. at November 05, 2013 07:35 PM (R3gO3)

1357 Good night Pete. Good to hear from you.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at November 05, 2013 07:35 PM (l3vZN)

1358 1336 yeah but Bush didn't have republican house and Senate. (Shhh, I know he did and they spent and spent but YOU HAVE TO WIN ELECTIONS)

Posted by: traye at November 05, 2013 07:35 PM (+ayj2)

1359 Where do you get 4,000 clowns to write somebody in for an AG race?

Posted by: Jean at November 05, 2013 07:35 PM (CMlD4)

1360 That was actually the remark to which I was responding. I didn't say it and don't completely agree with it.

I don't, for instance, think McCain would have been much better than Obama. Just an asshole in other ways.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 05, 2013 11:02 PM (DmNpO)

I have no idea what you were responding to, since you didn't quote anything with a timestamp on it that I could refer back to, and in a thread of 1200+ comments no one can read them all.

However, since your comment seemed to me to be just a re-statement of the Buckley Rule, I am wondering what you (or the person you were responding to) thinks the Buckley Rule actually says.

Posted by: HTL at November 05, 2013 07:35 PM (DV75s)

1361 1331 Absentees taking him over the top. If true, that's people who voted a week or more ago - while the "shutdown" was dominating the news - thanks Cruz...

Posted by: the Count at November 05, 2013 07:38 PM (nLIMC)

1362 1346 1331 Absentees taking him over the top.

If true, that's people who voted a week or more ago - while the "shutdown" was dominating the news - thanks Cruz...

Posted by: the Count at November 05, 2013 11:38 PM (nLIMC)

Also: early voting was before the insurance cancellation notices went out thanks to Obamacare!

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at November 05, 2013 07:39 PM (KL49F)

1363 Only the hard core vote absentee, their minds are set in stone. Anyone on the fence, just doesn't vote.

Posted by: Jean at November 05, 2013 07:42 PM (CMlD4)

1364 1348 Hey Jean, your ruining a perfectly good reason to bash Cruz. Just stop!

Posted by: WVinMN at November 05, 2013 07:44 PM (Dge+E)

1365 Before Obamacare, McAuliffe had a 20 point lead. After Obamacare, his lead shrank to 1.5.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at November 05, 2013 07:45 PM (KL49F)

1366 Way to go, "libertarian" fucks!

Posted by: Curmudgeon at November 05, 2013 07:45 PM (qCSo1)

1367 That is a good message to get out. I hope the messengers are available to do the job.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at November 05, 2013 07:46 PM (l3vZN)

1368 Boy howdy, I can't get enough of "Candidate X is a perfect warrior who will stand up to the Democrats and their media buddies, but wilts under the slightest criticism from his own party, *so don't do it*!"

I'm Travis Touchdown, because I believe in No More Heroes.

Posted by: Shoot Me at November 05, 2013 07:50 PM (qiXMt)

1369 Norfolk City is the problem Posted by: Jean Fuckin' what? What did I miss? I went out back for a drink and a stogie and you're blaming this shit sandwich on me?

Posted by: shredded chi at November 05, 2013 07:51 PM (0IDyD)

1370 looks like the booze has flowed on the ONT!

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at November 05, 2013 07:52 PM (l3vZN)

1371 Fuckin' what? What did I miss? I went out back for a drink and a stogie and you're blaming this shit sandwich on me?
Posted by: shredded chi

You've got two precincts out, how BLUE are they and are there any all night Kinkos close by

Posted by: Jean at November 05, 2013 07:53 PM (CMlD4)

1372 Suburban Park and Coleman Place School; no chance they are gated communities of retired naval officers?

Posted by: Jean at November 05, 2013 07:55 PM (CMlD4)

1373 If there are deep red prcts. in Norfolk, I haven't driven in them.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at November 05, 2013 07:57 PM (l3vZN)

1374 Both of those are Bobby Scott precincts, abut 1,000 votes in 2010

Posted by: Jean at November 05, 2013 07:59 PM (CMlD4)

1375 1295 BTW, there is only one lesson from the VA race and that is the GOP needs to stop the big government bandwagon fast. People who work for the government vote Demcratic, overwhelmingly. I don't care what their politics were before they got the job, they might as well issue their Demcratic voter registration card with their first paycheck. They have turned a red state blue simply by hiring enough voters. There was only one issue in this campaign that mattered for a great number Virginians and that was who was most likely to keep the gravy train rolling.
Posted by: Rocks

So what do you propose the OP (it's no longer grand) do? How is it going to stop big government when stopping big government is: 1) impossible for this bunch to do; and 2) motivates people to vote Dem? All the anti-abortion stuff (even if worthwhile for other than reducing abortion) just gets painted as old-white-Jesus-freak-men v. women and doesn't seem to attract votes anyway. The party doesn't have the guts (or the wisdom) to call for a fresh look at making cannabis schedule 1. All it has are slogans its members can't even defend coherently and the detritus of a horrible party from 2000-2006.

Posted by: SFGoth at November 05, 2013 07:59 PM (dXh9a)

1376 Norfolk is full of FSA idiots that wouldn't bother to get off their asses to vote. IF they even knew there was an election today. Although we have a few rich libs that voted for the Messiah. But don't even try to blame this shit on us... Look up north.

Posted by: shredded chi at November 05, 2013 08:01 PM (0IDyD)

1377 chi, were just looking at the AG race thats close. Those two open precincts (2 of 7) in the state are the only place for the Dim to manufacture alot of votes.

Posted by: Jean at November 05, 2013 08:02 PM (CMlD4)

1378 Bobby Scoot is over in Hampton/Newport News.

Posted by: shredded chi at November 05, 2013 08:03 PM (0IDyD)

1379 Those two precincts voted for him in 2010

Posted by: Jean at November 05, 2013 08:04 PM (CMlD4)

1380 304 and 215 in 2010 - http://tinyurl.com/k9qbvhz

Right now - http://tinyurl.com/mvp4tky

Posted by: Jean at November 05, 2013 08:06 PM (CMlD4)

1381 The GOP in Nassau County New York campaigned democratic style and the dems still don't know what hit them. County Executive declared victory before the dem challenger even called him. Plus they picked up a seat in the legislature, so the dems have DA but that's sort of about it.

Posted by: just a citizen at November 05, 2013 08:07 PM (Nx76m)

1382 1362 Ok... Let me try to catch up - I just walked in the back door. If those 2 districts are Scoots' then hang it up. That side of the river is almost Detroit.

Posted by: shredded chi at November 05, 2013 08:07 PM (0IDyD)

1383 it's "bellwether", BTW. Just get it right the first time, AOSHQ. The rest of the news is bad enough, at least in Virginia.

Posted by: texasmamma777 at November 05, 2013 08:16 PM (5jP2N)

1384 Eric Cantor's former chief of staff led McAuliffe to victory:

http://tinyurl.com/mj6q93f

This is why the Tea Party must defeat the Establishment or we will keep losing elections!

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at November 05, 2013 08:19 PM (KL49F)

1385 And, NO, I am not a typical "grammar-Nazi", especially on the internet -- just feeling grumpy.

Posted by: texasmamma777 at November 05, 2013 08:21 PM (5jP2N)

1386 1 precinct in Bedford - absentees only assume RED 75/25 ~ ? votes
1 in Mecklenburg - #501 assume RED 60/40 ~ 1000 votes (65/35 in 2010)
2 in Nofolk City - #304 and 215, assume DEEP BLUE ~ 1000 votes (80/20 i 2010)
1 in PW County - push? Is this (#212 Yorkshire) a new precinct?
1 in Roanoke City - absentees only assume BLUE 55/45 ~ ? votes
1 in Rockingham - #503 assume RED 80/20 500 votes in 2010

so going to bed with a 7500 vote cushion and that mess outstanding. I expect a recount, but a Republican AG.

Posted by: Jean at November 05, 2013 08:21 PM (CMlD4)

1387 so going to bed with a 7500 vote cushion and that mess outstanding. I expect a recount, but a Republican AG. Hate to say it but 7500 votes is not enough to make up for Dem. vote cheating...

Posted by: hello, it's me also a creep-assed cracka.. at November 05, 2013 08:33 PM (9+ccr)

1388 I am heading to bed too, but it is too close to sleep well on the result.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at November 05, 2013 08:39 PM (l3vZN)

1389 _{TRICKS: Obama Campaign Bundler Helped Fund 'Libertarian'...
Drudge put this up finally today, after the election? The blaze had it this morning and the conspiracy sites had it days ago.}

Posted by: just a citizen at November 05, 2013 08:43 PM (Nx76m)

1390 I wonder if all of these people who are feverishly slurping Christie 's gloppy fumunda cheese realize that he had no coattails whatsoever. He's all about himself.

Posted by: Libtardo at November 05, 2013 08:59 PM (PT7/5)

1391 "Didn't happen. Do you know how this works?" I know how it works NOW. You beat your drum and I don't donate or vote for your stooge and then you call me a traitor and I let you see my back because I don't care anymore. That's how it works.

Posted by: cackfinger at November 05, 2013 09:01 PM (OsCtd)

1392 Bellwether, not bellweather [sic]. The term is derived from the Middle English bellewether and refers to the practice of placing a bell around the neck of a castrated ram (a wether) leading his flock of sheep. The movements of the flock could be noted by hearing the bell before the flock was in sight.

Posted by: docweasel at November 05, 2013 09:01 PM (7Jipo)

1393 Bellwether, not bellweather [sic]. The term is derived from the Middle English bellewether and refers to the practice of placing a bell around the neck of a castrated ram (a wether) leading his flock of sheep. The movements of the flock could be noted by hearing the bell before the flock was in sight.

Posted by: docweasel at November 05, 2013 09:04 PM (dSdBY)

1394 Big upset in Glen Cove, NY. The democratic incumbent, Ralph Suozzi (cousin of Tom Suozzi who lost to Republican Incumbent for County Executive, Mangano for a second time) lost to the republican, Reginald A. Spinello. This is a shocker, big victory for local republicans.

Reginald A. SPINELLO. 3,269 50.88
Ralph V. SUOZZI 3,154 49.09http://tinyurl.com/lw9nby3

http://tinyurl.com/oaptjlo - local news results claiming victory for the republican.

Posted by: just a citizen at November 05, 2013 09:11 PM (Nx76m)

1395 Sen. Schumer backs Hillary Clinton for president Â— 3 years early

Mr. Kissup wants to be the first.

http://tinyurl.com/lk84l6k

Went to the NY Post looking for results and was shocked to see this there.

Posted by: just a citizen at November 05, 2013 09:33 PM (Nx76m)

1396 Glad Cuccinelli and Jackson lost. They were terrible candidates.

Posted by: Boom at November 05, 2013 09:35 PM (E7+Fp)

1397 Well, I guess one good thing about Kaiser Wilhelm becoming mayor of NYC is that he'll turn the city into such a shithole I might be able to afford to buy an apartment. I blame the influx of rookies and hipsters for this fiasco. ANyone who remembers the Dinkins years knew better.

Posted by: vivi at November 05, 2013 10:24 PM (+/8mE)

1398 ANyone who remembers the Dinkins years knew better. My guess is that those that fall into that category have mostly left the NY area.

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at November 05, 2013 10:39 PM (/IXKu)

1399 Just be Slim Whitman riding that atomic bomb down to Mother Russia, whoopin' it up, wavin' your hat.

You sir have sinned greatly against Slim Pickens and will not be allowed to work for Mel Brooks.

Posted by: DaveA at November 05, 2013 11:11 PM (DL2i+)

1400 "1380 Glad Cuccinelli and Jackson lost. They were terrible candidates.

Posted by: Boom at November 06, 2013 01:35 AM (E7+Fp)"

Yes, Cuccinelli was such a bad candidate that he closed a 20 point gap to within 1.5, he fought TWO foes (Dems and GOP), was outspent 25-1... and he ALMOST won!

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at November 05, 2013 11:12 PM (KL49F)

1401 (...but YOU HAVE TO WIN ELECTIONS) What exactly is the point of our side winning elections when the squishy candidate who wins starts to tread an unconservative path? For instance, Bush 2 won, didn't he? So what's the deal with Medicare Part D? What was the deal with him signing McCain/Feingold when he had previously criticized it as a suicidal move for Republicans? What about No Child Left Behind? What about the creation of the Homeland Security Department? There's probably more. Winning is all fine and dandy, but when the win is with a shit sandwich, one has to wonder whether it really was a win when the shit sandwich begins to really stink up the joint.

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at November 05, 2013 11:33 PM (/IXKu)

1402

Fuck off RINOs. Your fake libertarian candidate took KC's margin of vote. Less than 2 points, outspent 25 to 1. Yeah, huge referendum for the fucking leftists.

Nice one you stupid fucks.

Posted by: prescient11 at November 05, 2013 11:38 PM (y8MBg)

1403 Turns out that Sarvis candidate did have an impact. But if that had been SC a runoff would be required because no candidate got 50%. That would bounce the Libertarian candidate. I can't believe all States don't have that requirment.

That is a much better plan to eliminate "spoilers".

Posted by: Vic at November 06, 2013 12:42 AM (zZbNF)

1404 Well, I've got something to be very grateful about. I SOLD my house in Virginia last month. I never have to go back there again. And all the stupid bastards who voted for that lying Demo son of a bitch can live without the nice chunk of taxes I paid that state. Screw you, Virginia. I live in a conservative state now and don't give a damn what happens to you. AMFs!

Posted by: mac at November 06, 2013 02:04 AM (2ZmBj)

1405 A lot of votes for the phony candidate!

Posted by: burt at November 06, 2013 03:54 AM (1+kJ5)

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