November 25, 2013

Ace of Spades' Talking Points for Talking With Your Family About Obamacare This Thanksgiving
— Ace

1. Hey remember when you said that Obamacare was going to work great, and then, when people asked you how it actually worked, you sort of implied they were stupid for not knowing, and yet you never provided any evidence that you had any idea of how it was supposed to work yourself? Yeah, you were wrong to do that.

2. Remember when you called me crazy for saying Obama wanted to "spread the wealth around," based on not a scrap of evidence except for Obama himself saying he wanted to spread the wealth around? Yeah, there's a NYT article that says that Obamacare is fundamentally a redistributive program -- which means it "spreads the wealth around." Yeah you were wrong on that, too.

3. Remember when you said that it was only "REPUBLICAN LIES!!111!!" that Obama's "if you like your plan, you can keep your plan" promise was itself a lie? I hate to keep coming back to this point, but you were way wrong on that one too.

4. Remember the "if you like your doctor" pledge? Yeah I feel like a broken record here, but you were wrong.

5. Remember when you gleefully, giddily declared the end of the Republican Party and a new era of Proud Progressive dominance? Yeah, the current political Big Story is whether or not Obamacare will wind up discrediting progressivism for just an election cycle or two, or as much as a generation. It looks like you were wrong about that.

6. Remember when you were so confident, arrogant, snotty, sneering, and dismissive about legitimate and informed concerns about Obamacare? You were wrong. And you weren't just wrong on the facts, but you were wrong on a human level. You very nearly screamed your ignorant opinions and shouted down dissent. You sneered at people as ignorant who actually knew more than you did, and you indulged in entirely-unwarranted moral preening about your alleged concern for the poor. Despite the fact that you never do anything to actually aid the poor. Apparently shouting at relatives is your idea of "charity."

Yeah you were wrong. You are wrong.

I know you won't apologize, but at least keep your stupid mouth shut this year and let us all digest in peace.

Posted by: Ace at 11:48 AM | Comments (265)
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1 I don't really have any leftards in my family. They mostly sit around and laugh about the nasty shit I say about da Zero.

Posted by: maddogg at November 25, 2013 11:51 AM (xWW96)

2 Do you realize that you are a naive blithering idiot for (near) worshiping a human being with no track record of success and believing everything he says?

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at November 25, 2013 11:51 AM (r+7wo)

3 I tend to day a lot of nasty shit about da Zero, so they laugh a lot.

Posted by: maddogg at November 25, 2013 11:52 AM (xWW96)

4 Yeah, what he said. Oh and fa la la la fuck you, you little leftist twits.

Posted by: mbruce at November 25, 2013 11:52 AM (Hx3jP)

5 So.....

You were wrong.

Completely, sweepingly, categorically, catastrophically wrong.  About all of it.

But I'm a racist for pointing that out.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at November 25, 2013 11:53 AM (fwARV)

6 Better eat before you say all that, Ace and then run out the door. At least you will have gotten a good meal before all hell breaks loose. ;^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 25, 2013 11:53 AM (23Kgq)

7 And after a few drinks, I start to move into the really, really nasty stuff about da Zero.

Posted by: maddogg at November 25, 2013 11:53 AM (xWW96)

8 I do my best not to consort with the type of people who spout such nonsense as is referenced above. It blows my mind when commenters here refer to their liberal "friends".

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 25, 2013 11:53 AM (DmNpO)

9 I just felt a disturbance in the Force, like a million Kosthingies crying that Uncle Ace is mean and stoopid.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at November 25, 2013 11:53 AM (ZKzrr)

10 Remember when everyone's premium was going down by $2500 a year? Yeah, you had your head way up your ass on that one too.

Posted by: Mr. Dave at November 25, 2013 11:54 AM (mTD9t)

11

Ace, I approve of all these sentiments but they presume that the crazed, screaming zealots of the Sun God's Cult are able of understanding and accepting logical arguments grounded by data.

 

They are not.

Posted by: Austin in TX at November 25, 2013 11:54 AM (3cp3C)

12 Smart Ass Son: Pass the turkey and isn't about time you admit that you are an oppressor who is depriving the working class of health insurance.

Dad: If you like your opinion you can keep your opinion but you're not getting any turkey.

Posted by: WalrusRex at November 25, 2013 11:55 AM (XUKZU)

13 It blows my mind when commenters here refer to their liberal "friends".

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 25, 2013 03:53 PM (DmNpO)

I look at it the same way I look at television, the movies, etc.

I refuse to let the entirety of my life revolve around politics.  More than a few posters say that makes me 'just as bad as them,' and yes, that makes me 'a rino,' but what can you do?

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at November 25, 2013 11:55 AM (fwARV)

14

>>And after a few drinks, I start to move into the really, really nasty stuff about da Zero.

.

.After a few drinks and a nice turkey dinner I move something else, and it can be nasty......

Posted by: Registered Voter at November 25, 2013 11:55 AM (nUbHY)

15

Is everything politics with these people?

 

Serious, Thanksgiving is about being thankful, it is in the fooking name of the holiday.

 

leftist are like maggots

 

Posted by: Fred Q. at November 25, 2013 11:55 AM (W6iIX)

16 I'll just laugh and say remember what a clusterfuck I told you Obamacare was gonna be?

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 25, 2013 11:55 AM (f9c2L)

17 I know you won't apologize, but at least keep your stupid mouth shut this year and let us all digest in peace. Why not just forego inviting the known vocal leftists in the family to dinner? That's what I'd do.

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at November 25, 2013 11:56 AM (VVsZ2)

18 i swear, asshole libs should be a wedge issue in every election.

Posted by: joe44 at November 25, 2013 11:56 AM (y/aKE)

19 Ace: While I agree with you, I don't think you should talk to your mom that way.

Posted by: François Villon at November 25, 2013 11:56 AM (kkbgQ)

20 Sssssssssssssssssssssssssss...

Posted by: The Fuse on the Employer Mandate Bomb at November 25, 2013 11:56 AM (8ZskC)

21 ... Can I pay you to come read this to certain family members on my father's side?

Posted by: Hawkins1701 at November 25, 2013 11:56 AM (93zXY)

22 Alienate the liberals in your family while there's still time!  Mock and shun them!   Worked for me! 

Posted by: JeffersonTeaTerrorist at November 25, 2013 11:56 AM (2KIK/)

23 All good points.


You should take every opportunity to remind them all of the gigantic FAIL! that is o-care.  Turn up the snark past 11.  Make every conversation punishing to them.


Posted by: EC at November 25, 2013 11:56 AM (GQ8sn)

24 Actually I do like telling liberals that "Your heart's in the right place but your head's up your ass."

Posted by: Mr. Dave at November 25, 2013 11:57 AM (mTD9t)

25 Who would be the "ironic" and "snarky" one if the dinner invitees included Madcow, Chris Hayes and Ezra Klein?

Posted by: ejo at November 25, 2013 11:57 AM (GXvSO)

26 I don't plan on throwing any pearls to swine this holiday season.

Posted by: Dang at November 25, 2013 11:57 AM (YWXTN)

27 I'll just laugh and say remember what a clusterfuck I told you Obamacare was gonna be?

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 25, 2013 03:55 PM (f9c2L)

Not just you, but the 2010 Federal Register, which documented ALL of this as an eventuality of the law.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at November 25, 2013 11:57 AM (fwARV)

28 The only thing missing from the Approved AOSHQ Talking Points Memo is throat punching. And drinking Val-U-Rite before engaging in battle. And boobs.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 25, 2013 11:57 AM (oFCZn)

29
7. Play endless loop of Barry saying on Oct. 1 how buying insurance will be like getting a book from Amazon , and six weeks later Barry thoughtfully musing how of course buying insurance will never be like buying a song on iTunes.

Mix it up with a little "We didn't know insurance was so complicated."

Posted by: Waterhouse at November 25, 2013 11:57 AM (yobtO)

30 Any backtalk from the lefty shits about something Bush did can now be met with: 

What difference does it make???!!!!

Posted by: Bruce at November 25, 2013 11:58 AM (QKSvS)

31 I'm working on a Prog Prod.....works much like a Cattle Prod.

Posted by: BignJames at November 25, 2013 11:58 AM (j7iSn)

32 Invite all your lib family and friends for Thanksgiving dinner. And serve them crow instead of turkey.

Posted by: model_1066 at November 25, 2013 11:58 AM (lokJh)

33 Can I pay you to come read this to certain family members on my father's side?


Ace won't do it himself but he does have a sad puppet who might come and read it if you paid him a few bucks.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 25, 2013 11:58 AM (8ZskC)

34 And drinking Val-U-Rite before engaging in battle.

-----

Point of Order.

Thunderbird.

It's a holiday after all....

Posted by: fixerupper at November 25, 2013 11:58 AM (nELVU)

35
Love the talking points, but they're missing something.

Oh yeah, gleefully offensive profanity. Personally, I'm practicing the art of saying "Pinko Jug Eared Cocksucker" in a sneeringly obnoxious tone of voice.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 25, 2013 11:58 AM (TIIx5)

36
Hey Ace,

where do you know my sister from?

It doesn't bother me that she disagrees with my politics or that she enthusiastically promotes her own. But after the years of her belligerent vituperation at any disagreement, it's the "who cares if you were wrong about policy, you were wrong on the human level" thing I'm going to have to put aside.

Posted by: Ronsonic at November 25, 2013 11:58 AM (iE9fp)

37 A sin is something that a person does, when they should know better, like talk politics over a holiday dinner they didn't pay for.

Posted by: Barry Bama at November 25, 2013 11:59 AM (rCS6C)

38 Is Organizing for Ace (OFA) a 501(c)(3)? It should be.

Posted by: jakeman at November 25, 2013 11:59 AM (zHXv8)

39 Since I missed the last thread, Christopher Hayes needs to be thunderfucked by a pack of rabid pumas. Moving on. I know you won't apologize, but at least keep your stupid mouth shut this year and let us all digest in peace. THIS OH ALL OF THIS. I am fortunate that it's just me and Mommy and Dad for Thanksgiving and we all agree so the big argument will be about me fixing their tech stuff. Though there will be a huge war over reminding my father that the 9x14 pan of strawberry pretzel jello salad is meant to serve people other than him. Crap. Now I'm hungry and Thursday is waaaaaay far away.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at November 25, 2013 11:59 AM (VtjlW)

40 Remember when you said Obama would never sick the IRS on anyone or keep Guantanamo Bay open?

Yeah, you're a fag.

Posted by: Dr Spank at November 25, 2013 11:59 AM (xlX1p)

41 You want to "coexist," smart guy?  Go get your turkey at a local mosque this year.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 25, 2013 12:00 PM (8ZskC)

42 And the Middle Class.....

Posted by: dfbaskwill at November 25, 2013 12:00 PM (fA3u5)

43

(From Dead Thread)

 

 

President Obama on ObamaCare:  "As God is my witness I thought this turkey would fly."

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Death Capades - ObamaCare on Ice! Sponsored by the Outrage Outlet at November 25, 2013 12:00 PM (hLRSq)

44 Don't forget to remind them Obama's a fucking Kenyan also.

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 25, 2013 12:00 PM (0FSuD)

45 Remember when you told me the Republicans shutting down the government to delay the implementation of Obamacare was the death knell of the Republican Party? Remember when you called me up, foaming at the mouth hysterically over Ted Cruz and what an extremist, racist terrorist he was because he was trying to stop Obamacare?

Posted by: runningrn at November 25, 2013 12:01 PM (PLOz8)

46 I refuse to let the entirety of my life revolve around politics. More than a few posters say that makes me 'just as bad as them,' and yes, that makes me 'a rino,' but what can you do? *** Well, they are wrong, It doesn't make you just as bad as them. However, I view liberalism as a serious character flaw.... a deep, deep flaw wherein all reason and logic suffer an instant death. I won't subject myself to the circular logic, the ranting and raving, the holier-than-thou green lectures, etc... I just won't do it. Every now and then I meet a Dem who isn't completely out of their mind and I enjoy debating them, but those folks are few and far between.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 25, 2013 12:01 PM (DmNpO)

47 You want to "coexist," smart guy? Go get your turkey at a local mosque this year.

----

Which remids me.....


Why are all the turkeys now halal compliant.???

Posted by: fixerupper at November 25, 2013 12:02 PM (nELVU)

48 Apologize? You'd be lucky to get a leftist twit to even admit they were in error.

Posted by: model_1066 at November 25, 2013 12:02 PM (lokJh)

49 Remember your math-challenged Messiah telling us that insurance premiums would go down 3000%?

Yeah, you are pretty much an idiot for buying that one.

Posted by: wiserbud at November 25, 2013 12:02 PM (NXg/k)

50 You know, I've seen a sharp reduction (read as zero) mentions of the oft used line, "Republicans are constantly on the wrong side of history" lately.

Posted by: Scott M at November 25, 2013 12:02 PM (AdBfq)

51 Son: ObamaCare is just the first step toward a society of equality and prosperity.

Dad: You talk like a fag and your shits all retarded.

Posted by: WalrusRex at November 25, 2013 12:02 PM (XUKZU)

52 It blows my mind when commenters here refer to their liberal "friends". Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 25, 2013 03:53 PM (DmNpO) ------------------------------ I have a couple. With one of them, who is an otherwise pretty smart guy, we never talk about politics. With the other, he wants to talk pretty much nothing BUT politics, but it's always over lots of drinks and each time he comes back after another asswhipping with "Well, what about THIS?" topic, to which we have more drinks while I beat him about the head and shoulders. Great fun for everyone. I think there are some quality people who hold these beliefs not on an intellectual level, but because they've been indoctrinated to believe that they're responsible to care for everyone, especially the "less fortunate." Fortunately, Lord Rainbowshanks has done more than William F. Buckley to educate the populace that the Less Fortunate don't give a fuck about YOU, they just want what's in your pockets.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at November 25, 2013 12:02 PM (CJjw5)

53 Good piece by NRO's Andy McCarthy -- ANDY MCCARTHY: The Scheme behind the Obamacare Fraud http://natl.re/1e9J8g4

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 25, 2013 12:02 PM (ZPrif)

54 I am fortunate that it's just me and Mommy and Dad for Thanksgiving and we all agree so the big argument will be about me fixing their tech stuff. Though there will be a huge war over reminding my father that the 9x14 pan of strawberry pretzel jello salad is meant to serve people other than him.   

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at November 25, 2013 03:59 PM (VtjlW)

My parents are bizzarro-liberal.  Dad's got one of his two MAs in Econ, spent 32 years at DIA.  I don't get it.  At all. 

Every time I go over they pick a fight about guns, or taxes or Elizabeth Warren's heritage.  For the past two months or so, they've pretty much shut the fuck up. 

I'm going to pick a fight on Thursday.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at November 25, 2013 12:03 PM (fwARV)

55 I'm just spitballing here, but I'm guessing ace has endured some annoying liberal relatives over the years.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at November 25, 2013 12:03 PM (sQ0LB)

56 Thunderbird. It's a holiday after all.... Posted by: fixerupper --------------- Cisco : http://www.bumwine.com/cisco.html

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 25, 2013 12:03 PM (aDwsi)

57 Remember when you use to have a job, drove your own car instead of taking the bus, and didn't live in your mom's basement?

Posted by: runningrn at November 25, 2013 12:03 PM (PLOz8)

58 The Airing of Grievances will be sweet this year.

Posted by: toby928© blurts at November 25, 2013 12:04 PM (QupBk)

59 Don't forget:

Now that you realize your insurance was cancelled and your new insurance premiums, deductibles, and copays have increased, you're complaining -- because while you like declaring your desire to help the poor, you don't want to be the actual one who pays more in order to help the poor.  That's what rich people are for.

Posted by: AAA at November 25, 2013 12:04 PM (hQJ+o)

60 Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 25, 2013 03:53 PM (DmNpO) Why? I knew the people while I was a liberal. Some of them I've known for decades. They know my politics have changed and they don't disown me. The worst that ever happened was that I walked out on a friend while we were at a diner having breakfast. We just don't talk about politics much.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 25, 2013 12:04 PM (23Kgq)

61 Liberals are impervious to logic.

Posted by: navybrat at November 25, 2013 12:04 PM (/nZv0)

62 1) Buy a cattle prod 2) Put a pic of Obama on it 3) ???? 4) Profit!

Posted by: cajun caret at November 25, 2013 12:04 PM (UZQM8)

63 I know you won't apologize, but at least keep your stupid mouth shut this year and let us all digest in peace.
But first we will say grace.

Posted by: WalrusRex at November 25, 2013 12:05 PM (XUKZU)

64

Hey, remember    when you were so excited because Obamacare was    going to make it easy to get a really inexpensive plan with lots of great benefits, and I was like, "Are you a fucking moron?  Do you not understand math?"  And you called me a lying bitch?

 

And remember how you called me up a couple weeks    ago   in tears because your current insurance got cancelled and the only insurance you can buy now is three times more expensive and    isn't accepted by any of your doctors?   You remember how I laughed, like, WICKED hard, and you said I was being really mean?

 

Yeah, still laughing.  Just wanted you to know that. 

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/i][/u] at November 25, 2013 12:05 PM (4df7R)

65 Remember when people use to like you and were excited you were coming for Thanksgiving dinner? Nah, me either!

Posted by: runningrn at November 25, 2013 12:05 PM (PLOz8)

66 It could do with some sort of demonstrationy metaphory thing that results in dessert being taken away from liberals.

Posted by: GalaKitty at November 25, 2013 12:05 PM (KT2XH)

67 You/We might want to preface that list with a sincere request that the family member cease discussion of politics. Add to the request a promise that if they insist on ruining the evening, that they will regret it.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at November 25, 2013 12:05 PM (nq+/u)

68 Remember how Obama was against gay marriage like only last year and now you call everyone in your family who opposes gay marriage bigots?

Yeah, go eat your turkey in your Pinto, and take that bitch wife with you.

Posted by: Dr Spank at November 25, 2013 12:06 PM (xlX1p)

69 And my friends would not be bringing up Obamacare at Thanksgiving Dinner.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 25, 2013 12:06 PM (23Kgq)

70 Yeah, I get to have Thanksgiving with relatives that hate me and have publicly called me a racist for voting against Obama. I'd skip, but that would cause pain to people I love. More pain than I'll have to endure getting insulted on the holidays.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 25, 2013 12:06 PM (ZPrif)

71 I confess (being a orphan) that I am envious of those who will be spending time with either or both of their parents, however insane they may be.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 25, 2013 12:06 PM (aDwsi)

72 "Remember when you said you were getting a job?"

Yeah..

"So are you getting paid to push this garbage?"

No

"Then shut up you idiot."

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 25, 2013 12:06 PM (GSSdy)

73 My parents are bizzarro-liberal. Dad's got one of his two MAs in Econ, spent 32 years at DIA. I don't get it. At all. Every time I go over they pick a fight about guns, or taxes or Elizabeth Warren's heritage. For the past two months or so, they've pretty much shut the fuck up. I'm going to pick a fight on Thursday. Posted by: Washington Nearsider at November 25, 2013 04:03 PM (fwARV) Remember, it's important to do some limbering up first. Start with a nice so Dad, hey, question for you. Wouldn't the SEC be assraping a private company who rolled out a site like 404Care by now? Then go for the gusto.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at November 25, 2013 12:06 PM (VtjlW)

74 But SCOAMTTcare is going to work, dontcha know. It would be working now if it were not for the evil republicans and greedy insurance companies n doctors. Mentioned thismorning, just bought my husband a ticket to fly and see his new grandbaby thismorning. I cannot go. Saves me a fourteen hour drive and überlib gathering. It was a Thanksgiving holiday we first met my son-in-law, who argued with my hubby (doc) for national healthcare.

Posted by: Justamom at November 25, 2013 12:07 PM (Sptt8)

75 Remember when we use to actually have a turkey for Thanksgiving and so many side dishes, we were ill just having a spoonful of each one. Oh well, at least we still have water...

Posted by: runningrn at November 25, 2013 12:07 PM (PLOz8)

76 5. Remember when you gleefully, giddily declared the end of the Republican Party

Who us?

Posted by: The McWeakShit Brothers[/i][/b][/s] at November 25, 2013 12:07 PM (DL2i+)

77 The only critters I will be dining with are my orange/gray tabby/Maine Coon/Persian kitteh and a lovely young woman with a Phd in biochem and an MD.

Posted by: SFGoth at November 25, 2013 12:07 PM (6h2wp)

78 You're an unpaid intern.

Posted by: Tex Lovera at November 25, 2013 12:07 PM (wtvvX)

79 Every now and then I meet a Dem who isn't completely out of their mind and I enjoy debating them, but those folks are few and far between.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 25, 2013 04:01 PM (DmNpO)

That's similar to my unstated position.  You can have your views.  This is America.  We fought two wars to guarantee your right to be an ignorant ass.  Fine.

But I'd prefer not to talk about it with you.  One - you'll get destroyed.  Two - seriously, let's drink good scotch, leer at women, scream at the sports on television and enjoy life.

If things stay there, I don't have a problem just knowing they're libs. 

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at November 25, 2013 12:07 PM (fwARV)

80 Need to remind scoamf drones on what a job creator Obamacide suppose to be. Oh, never mind.

Posted by: YIKES! at November 25, 2013 12:07 PM (mETGQ)

81 112) Remember when you said Everyone will be covered with obamacare? Well, you were off by about ~20+ million.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 25, 2013 12:08 PM (IXrOn)

82 >> Who would be the "ironic" and "snarky" one if the dinner invitees included Madcow, Chris Hayes and Ezra Klein? The turkey. No, I mean the one on the table.

Posted by: Mama AJ at November 25, 2013 12:08 PM (SUKHu)

83
In related news:
TROUBLE WITH HEALTHCARE.GOV appears to be so widespread — and chances of fixing it by Nov. 30 in doubt — the Obama administration will allow Americans to circumvent the site, and deal directly with insurers.

from fox

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 25, 2013 12:08 PM (iGPSR)

84 Point 5 -  I don't know.  I have the bad, bad feeling that the base wants desperately to cut off its own nose to spite the Establishment's face.  Just the made-up stories about Mitch McConnell from our own side has me on edge for next year.

Posted by: Shoot Me at November 25, 2013 12:09 PM (qiXMt)

85 I confess (being a orphan) that I am envious of those who will be spending time with either or both of their parents, however insane they may be. Aw, Mike, hugs to you! I won't be with my family or my in-laws this Thanksgiving. I'm on call for work, so if I'm not working, I've been invited to have dinner at a friend's house with her crazy family. Hubby will be down with his family (3 1/2 hours away) for the 4 days I'm on call. I hope we don't get slammed at work.

Posted by: runningrn at November 25, 2013 12:09 PM (PLOz8)

86 Two - seriously, let's drink good scotch, leer at women, scream at the sports on television and enjoy life. Posted by: Washington Nearsider at November 25, 2013 04:07 PM (fwARV) *sidles over* Hi. How you doin'? *hands over a cigar*

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at November 25, 2013 12:09 PM (VtjlW)

87 It blows my mind when commenters here refer to their liberal "friends".

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 25, 2013 03:53 PM (DmNpO)

 

 

------------------------------------------------

 

 

Same here.   If I don't want to put up with  the leftist harangue, I hold up my hand and tell them to walk away  quietly.  Anyone who's  in favor of destroying my country will never be a friend of mine, period.

 

And that also means a weekly housecleaning of FB.

 

I hate doing this, but, unfortunately,  the damage to this nation has been done.  Your either for the  US Constitution or your against it.  And I don't have much patience with the luke-warmers either.

Posted by: Soona at November 25, 2013 12:09 PM (66ULQ)

88 Remember when you loved him because your school loan went down but forgot to read the part where it went from a 10 year loan to a 20?

Posted by: dumbartist at November 25, 2013 12:09 PM (ahBY0)

89   Wouldn't the SEC be assraping a private company who rolled out a site like 404Care by now? Then go for the gusto.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at November 25, 2013 04:06 PM (VtjlW)

The only thing missing from your note was the preface:  "Protip:"

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at November 25, 2013 12:09 PM (fwARV)

90 265) Remember when you said... anything? Yeah, well, it doesn't matter what you said, you were wrong.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 25, 2013 12:09 PM (IXrOn)

91 Can't folks just hang a sign on their front door that reads: Entry to these premises denotes an acquiescence to certain known facts. There will be no discussion of the following dispelled myths: If you like your policy you can keep your policy If you like your doctor you can keep your doctor Premiums will be cut by $2500 per year Additionally, no accusations of GOP intolerance/sabotage/conspiracy theories will be tolerated. Do you accept these terms? Indicate acceptance by crossing the threshold.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 25, 2013 12:09 PM (DmNpO)

92 So you voted for hopenchange, and now that you're getting it good and hard, you decide it's not to your liking? Heaven forfend!

Posted by: model_1066 at November 25, 2013 12:09 PM (lokJh)

93 Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 25, 2013 04:06 PM (aDwsi) I have had any parents since 1983, my sister and BIL live in England and why conservative brother in law lis working. I haven't had family at Thanksgving for decades so i know a little of how you feel.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 25, 2013 12:09 PM (23Kgq)

94 TROUBLE WITH HEALTHCARE.GOV appears to be so widespread — and chances of fixing it by Nov. 30 in doubt — the Obama administration will allow Americans to circumvent the site, and deal directly with insurers. This only provides Obama with cover: "See, the federal government didn't screw you with that crappy, expensive plan! It was BIG Insurance..." No harm, no foul! Vote for Democrats 2014!

Posted by: runningrn at November 25, 2013 12:10 PM (PLOz8)

95 In related news:
TROUBLE WITH HEALTHCARE.GOV appears to be so widespread — and
chances of fixing it by Nov. 30 in doubt — the Obama administration will
allow Americans to circumvent the site, and deal directly with
insurers.

---

..... also known as "the way it used to be".

**facepalm**

Posted by: fixerupper at November 25, 2013 12:10 PM (nELVU)

96 meant "haven't had"

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 25, 2013 12:10 PM (23Kgq)

97 *sidles over* Hi. How you doin'?

*hands over a cigar*

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at November 25, 2013 04:09 PM (VtjlW)

See?  Like that.  Why can't liberals just be like that?

Also, I'm well.  *snips cigar*

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at November 25, 2013 12:10 PM (fwARV)

98

I have a hospital administrator for a relative, and I'm pretty sure this whole thing  is going according to plan.  The plan being, eventually, single payer.

 

I'm not  sure what to say to that person, none of these will work.  I've tried ridicule, but it's hard to do with someone who is so ignorant,  but has the credentials to believe they are an expert on all  this stuff. 

Posted by: BurtTC at November 25, 2013 12:10 PM (TOk1P)

99 Cisco : http://www.bumwine.com/cisco.html
Posted by: Mike Hammer

Great website!! Thanks for the laughs

Posted by: Bruce at November 25, 2013 12:10 PM (QKSvS)

100

Hey, remember when I     told you I was wrong about Obama and you were right and all these years I've been an   idiot?   And remember how I asked to borrow your phone so I could        call    Organizing for America    and    start volunteering for them?   And remember when I gave it back it was kind of warm and smelled  like ass, and I told you    you were hallucinating?

 

I totally   called   OFA and then farted at them     over your     phone.    It was awesome.

 

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/i][/u] at November 25, 2013 12:10 PM (4df7R)

101

7.  Your pumpkin pie sucks - I prefer home made from scratch.

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at November 25, 2013 12:11 PM (EGPJQ)

102 MWR just saw your reply to my post on previous thread.

Suicide by talk is about all they are good at.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 25, 2013 12:11 PM (GSSdy)

103 iirc Wasn't one of the really big pillars for scoamfcare to work was a GDP of at least 4% or higher? How that working out?

Posted by: YIKES! at November 25, 2013 12:11 PM (mETGQ)

104 Ballon the deficit: Check Destroy Health Care System: Check Transfer wealth: Check Huge Tax Increase: Check...Hat tip to Roberts Fuck all Allies: Check Double Fuck Israel: Check Check Destroy Constitution: Check Happy Thanksgiving America

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 25, 2013 12:11 PM (t3UFN)

105

In related news:


TROUBLE WITH HEALTHCARE.GOV appears to be so widespread — and
chances of fixing it by Nov. 30 in doubt — the Obama administration will
allow Americans to circumvent the site, and deal directly with
insurers.



from fox

 

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 25, 2013 04:08 PM (iGPSR)

 

If I'm not wrong, isn't it written into the law that, to get the subsidy, you HAVE to go through the "marketplace?"    You can go through insurers anyway, you just don't get the subsidy.

 

So is this yet another executive power grab without the power of law behind it?  

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/i][/u] at November 25, 2013 12:12 PM (4df7R)

106 Remember when pudding was bought to be eaten...

Posted by: runningrn at November 25, 2013 12:12 PM (PLOz8)

107 Hey guys be a peace maker and hail Obama's 10 year commitment to Afghanistan and closing Gitmo. Okay just Afghanistan.

Posted by: Chaos the other dark meat at November 25, 2013 12:12 PM (oDCMR)

108 And remember when I gave it back it was kind of warm and smelled like ass, and I told you you were hallucinating? ----------------------- Why is there a curly hair stuck to my phone?

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at November 25, 2013 12:12 PM (CJjw5)

109 No arguments from me this year about ACA at the table. When my nephew and his hardcore dem wife start talking about this subject - as they will - I'm just going to refresh my wine, lean back, loosen my belt and say: Thanks for paying for my health insurance. _ Then go out for a smoke. And I don't even smoke. But I'll have a pack of Marlboros for this meal. _

Posted by: BumperStickerist at November 25, 2013 12:12 PM (19AvL)

110 So is this yet another executive power grab without the power of law behind it? Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at November 25, 2013 04:12 PM (4df7R) No this is the Chicago Way

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 25, 2013 12:12 PM (t3UFN)

111 Actually another effective tactic would be to download that video compilation of Oblahblah's repeated promise to keep your healthcare ins. to your phone.

Just play that on a loop until the offender shuts his pie hole.

Add in a few attempts at impersonation and you've got the surest method of infuriating the Obamabot.

"If you, uh, like, uh, your healthcare insurance, ... youcankeepit."

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at November 25, 2013 12:12 PM (nq+/u)

112 Can I pay you to come read this to certain family members on my father's side? Posted by: Hawkins1701 at November 25, 2013 03:56 PM (93zXY) Oh, beautiful. An Ace-O-Gram!

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 25, 2013 12:12 PM (IXrOn)

113 Everybody gets Turkey, the liberals get Brussels Sprouts (burnt).  Tell them thats the Bronze Dinner.

Posted by: Jean at November 25, 2013 12:13 PM (CMlD4)

114

When I think about it, I don't think the leftists will be arguing for Ocare.  What they'll be arguing for is that single payer was where all of this should have gone to begin with.

 

Watch for it.  It's coming.

Posted by: Soona at November 25, 2013 12:13 PM (66ULQ)

115 Time for some music I think.
http://youtu.be/4yUej8PHMq8

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 25, 2013 12:13 PM (GSSdy)

116 Remember when I told you you'd inherit a lot of money when I died?  Yeah, that plan is transitioning.  Turns out, you're a bad apple.

Posted by: pep at November 25, 2013 12:13 PM (6TB1Z)

117 101 7. Your pumpkin pie sucks - I prefer home made from scratch. Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at November 25, 2013 04:11 PM (EGPJQ) 7b. Pumpkin pie is raciss! Especially with racist whipped cream on top.

Posted by: model_1066 at November 25, 2013 12:13 PM (lokJh)

118 Bruce - My favorite quote ; "Cisco will make a new man out of you. And he wants some too."

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 25, 2013 12:13 PM (aDwsi)

119 Remember when you said Obama was bringing together the best and brightest, a council of geniuses I believe you said,  to solve the problems of our nation?

Bwahahahahahahahahahaha..

*sucks air*

Bwahahahahahahahaahahahahah...

Posted by: Dr Spank at November 25, 2013 12:14 PM (xlX1p)

120

>>With the other, he wants to talk pretty much nothing BUT politics, but it's always over lots of drinks and each time he comes back after another asswhipping with "Well, what about THIS?" topic, to which we have more drinks while I beat him about the head and shoulders. Great fun for everyone.
.

.

.I had a semi-liberal co-worker I would occasionally have a beer or two with that was constantly on about gun control.  We lived in Connecticut then and after Newtown.  He launched after that constantly about the "if it saves only one life" thing and wanted to ban everything which they did.  I finally got tired of it and offered him a sane sensible solution that would save tens of thousands of lives a year. 

 

Install alcohol inhibitors in every single vehicle in America.  Presto!  it saves tons of lives.  He got pissed because he drinks and drives and said I was depriving him of his god given right to drive and his right to privacy....etc.  It took a few days but he actually thought about it sort of apologized to me.

Posted by: Registered Voter at November 25, 2013 12:14 PM (nUbHY)

121 If I'm not wrong, isn't it written into the law that, to get the subsidy, you HAVE to go through the "marketplace?" You can go through insurers anyway, you just don't get the subsidy.

The good news is waaaaay fewer people are eligible for a subsidy than we were promised. 

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at November 25, 2013 12:14 PM (ZKzrr)

122 7b. Pumpkin pie is raciss! Especially with racist whipped cream on top. And all these years, I thought it was banana cream pie that was rayciss...

Posted by: runningrn at November 25, 2013 12:14 PM (PLOz8)

123 Man I would love to be a fly on a wall at such a Thanksgiving conversation this year ... damn.

Posted by: thirteen28 at November 25, 2013 12:15 PM (rdAwR)

124 "Life is short."

"It sure is, and people are suffering without healthcare.  The ACA helps them get affordable insurance!"

"How much do you make an hour?"

"Why does that matter?"

"Everyone is paid according to their skills and their experience.  It's the monetization of the time they've spent from their life to gain the skills and experience. I want to know what the market thinks your time is worth."

"What is YOURS worth?"

"Apparently plenty, since you feel the need to have others steal some of it for your own political goals."

"That's bullshit!  It's taxes, and we pay them to keep society running."

"Is that so?  Let's say I make $50, but your compulsory charity makes me give up $20 of that to be given to someone else. That makes my life worth less. That's making my skills and experience worth less.  It's demeaning and antagonistic, not to mention morally corrupt. You're actually taking the abstracted form of my life, and giving it to someone else.  You couldn't be doing me a deeper moral harm if you literally stripped the years from my life to keep someone else young.   You're an honest-to-God vampire. What gives you the right to use the government as the tool to do that, just so you don't have to give up $10 of your own for your own fucking cause?"

"You use the infrastructure too."

"And I pay for it with gas taxes, utility taxes, FCC taxes, sales taxes.  The people you're giving my $20 to are using MY LIFE to pay for that shit.  So me, and people like me, are paying for all of it.  They're literally taking my life as a proxy for their own wasted potential, because you voted to let them do it."

Posted by: grognard at November 25, 2013 12:15 PM (/29Nl)

125 The good news is waaaaay fewer people are eligible for a subsidy than we were promised.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at November 25, 2013 04:14 PM (ZKzrr)

More angry voters. 

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at November 25, 2013 12:15 PM (fwARV)

126 You know those beliefs you have that form your whole self-image and self-worth?  You're gonna need to find some other ones.

Posted by: irright at November 25, 2013 12:15 PM (pMGkg)

127 Ask for the green beans, then as soon as your libtard kin picks it up - say, "Nah, you can keep it".  Get everyone to do until they run crying from the table.

Posted by: Jean at November 25, 2013 12:16 PM (CMlD4)

128 Thank God my family consists largely of post-WWII refugees from Soviet-conquered areas in E. Europe. We all loathe statists.

Posted by: OhioCoastie at November 25, 2013 12:16 PM (9m3Zl)

129 Christmas 2009 I spent at my millionaire Marxist relatives home in RI. Of course, Obamacare was a hot topic as it had just been rammed through the Senate during an after midnight vote the night before. After voicing my many objections over a new welfare program, piling new debt on top of the already unpayable old debt, a government bureaucracy getting involved in your personal medical decisions, etc., my Ivy League graduate cousin nodded along the whole time while listening. When I finished, he replied, "honestly, it sounds to me like your only real objection is that it wasn't passed by a white president."



Fuckers are going to be at my mom's for Thanksgiving. I can guarantee they will not try to pull this OFA bullshit around me, rather they're probably praying to get through the evening without any mention of politics. I however plan to rub their noses in the mess they've made repeatedly and often.

Posted by: mugiwara at November 25, 2013 12:16 PM (W7ffl)

130 now pass the potatoes....

Posted by: thefritz at November 25, 2013 12:16 PM (lEKuQ)

131 Oh sure you can say the Affordable Healthcare Act is bad for everyone, but where is your Peer-reviewed science to prove it?

Posted by: Lib genius at November 25, 2013 12:16 PM (Zswg6)

132 "You use the infrastructure too."

"And I pay for it with gas taxes, utility taxes, FCC taxes, sales taxes. The people you're giving my $20 to are using MY LIFE to pay for that shit. So me, and people like me, are paying for all of it. They're literally taking my life as a proxy for their own wasted potential, because you voted to let them do it."

Posted by: grognard at November 25, 2013 04:15 PM (/29Nl)

Fucking.  Gold.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at November 25, 2013 12:16 PM (fwARV)

133 Oh, beautiful. An Ace-O-Gram! Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 25, 2013 04:12 PM (IXrOn) Obligatory in every possible way: http://youtu.be/Ui337e5D50E

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at November 25, 2013 12:16 PM (VtjlW)

134 I'm   very lucky in that all of my relatives are many states away   and we don't get together... well, pretty much ever.   I've got an aunt in Vermont somewhere, but whatever.   They're all idiot liberals, FSA or LIVs (BIRM).     The only ones I miss are my sister and her hubby out in Nebraska.      But we've got the phone, thanksfully!

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/i][/u] at November 25, 2013 12:16 PM (4df7R)

135 Hey, remember when you said Obama would reign in the big evil insurance companies and stop them from ripping people off with high premiums and deductibles?

Yeah, about that...

Posted by: Hollowpoint at November 25, 2013 12:17 PM (SY2Kh)

136 Remember when I told you last year millions of americans were going to lose their health insurance and you called me a liar, well time to pay up the dishes are yours.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at November 25, 2013 12:17 PM (WdbF7)

137 Remember all you OFA douchebags out there, not to forget to tell your hostess who slaved over a hot stove and oven all morning to feed you an epic meal: "YOU DIDN'T MAKE THAT!"

Posted by: runningrn at November 25, 2013 12:17 PM (PLOz8)

138 Try being nice. Say things like 'websites are hard and so is math.' Selling intangibles is difficult and requires a minimum IQ to comprehend. This should help the Tards feel okay with their shame.  

Posted by: Chaos the other dark meat at November 25, 2013 12:17 PM (oDCMR)

139 And all these years, I thought it was banana cream pie that was rayciss...

All pie is racist, because some cultures don't have pie.

This is the face I'm making right now.
http://is.gd/6y1qdf

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at November 25, 2013 12:17 PM (ZKzrr)

140 My family, wife, children, in-laws, parents, etc. are center-right to far right. Except one. My father's girlfriend is a libtard, who on good days we just barely tolerate. She loves Obama. We should pay more so the FSA can have their food stamps, sec. 8 housing, blah blah blah. Well the joke in my family is wait for BSH to get a few glasses of wine (does Valu-U-Rite make wine?) in him and watch the show. I can be insufferable with liberals when I'm sober. Add a couple glasses of truth serum and it is cringe worthy. So the Thanksgiving dinner table this year should be extra special. I'm expecting long-knives and hurt feelings before the first bottle is empty. Thanks Obama.

Posted by: Blue State Hostage at November 25, 2013 12:18 PM (JMt7S)

141 ..... also known as "the way it used to be".

**facepalm**

Posted by: fixerupper at November 25, 2013 04:10 PM (nELVU)

 

 

Except at an exponential increase in cost.   It's not the process that's going to kill Ocare.  It's totality of how unaffordable it is that will be it's downfall. 

Posted by: Soona at November 25, 2013 12:18 PM (66ULQ)

142 Remember when you said Obama would make the world a safer place and get Iran to stop building nukes?


Yeah, well, I banged your wife.

Posted by: Dr Spank at November 25, 2013 12:18 PM (xlX1p)

143 Mugiwara, your whole family sounds about as bright as pygmies. And the Ivy League one probably thinks he's the cat's meow while all he is is the chief good luck piece of affirmation that his parents did right for him.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 25, 2013 12:18 PM (GSSdy)

144 What they'll be arguing for is that single payer was where all of this should have gone to begin with.

Watch for it. It's coming. Posted by: Soona

"Single Payer, me just like this dinner."  

Posted by: Jean at November 25, 2013 12:18 PM (CMlD4)

145 Fortunately none of my relatives usually spout liberal dreck, but my mother-in-law spouts annoying stuff that she gets from emails her friends send her. Most of it is incorrect, including the stuff that says "checked at Snopes."

Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at November 25, 2013 12:18 PM (WD0KF)

146
**throws dinner roll at mooching cousins head


"At some point, you've eaten enough turkey."

Posted by: fixerupper at November 25, 2013 12:18 PM (nELVU)

147 They're literally taking my life as a proxy for their own wasted potential, because you voted to let them do it.

...and that's why I can't be friends with proggs.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at November 25, 2013 12:18 PM (ZKzrr)

148 Place a life size cardboard cut-out of Reagan in the seat next to the farthest left lib in the family. Then, enjoy.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 25, 2013 12:19 PM (IXrOn)

149 Just remember that they are going to claim all these people are getting subsidies and aint obammycare grand when most subsidies will be a pittance.

Posted by: François Villon at November 25, 2013 12:19 PM (kkbgQ)

150 Remember when you argued with me about gays in the cub scouts and now feel a little uneasy about letting your little boy join?

Posted by: dumbartist at November 25, 2013 12:19 PM (ahBY0)

151 Hey Horde,

I'm back from Deer Camp. I've been back for a while now, just lazy cold and a bit hung over.

In any case, I don't expect much from the relatives over the holidays.  The only leftards in my family are of the union loving variety.

My response to them is pretty much "whatever, we'll be done with your kind soon enough."

Fact is they really don't understand this clusterfuck enough to even attempt to defend it.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No really! at November 25, 2013 12:19 PM (GaqMa)

152

Remember when I told you that Obamacare was going to be a miserable failure, that millions of people would lose their insurance and be forced to pay exorbitant amounts for    poorer quality care with fewer providers to choose from?   And you said if that happened you'd eat my hat?

 

Here's  my hat.   I made sure to sweat on it A LOT, so it's nice and salty.  Enjoy.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/i][/u] at November 25, 2013 12:19 PM (4df7R)

153 Remember when I told you I didn't stir the gravy with my finger after using it to pick my nose?.......

Posted by: pep at November 25, 2013 12:19 PM (6TB1Z)

154 Oh wait..  ooppss   that Marxist portion 

Sorry about that Mugiwara.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 25, 2013 12:19 PM (GSSdy)

155 I have exactly ONE progressive family member with whom I am duty-bound to fuck with (my flamingly gay uncle; the other uncle is a hardcore conservative and major statewide player in IN politics, the liberal one is a gay seminary-student-turned-ad-executive currently living in northern NJ...ironically enough, I get along better w/the biting sarcastic gay liberal uncle).  I didn't even NEED these talking points as a guide to Thanksgiving Day wreckage...but you bet your ass I'll be working along similar lines regardless.

I'll take particular pleasure in needling my hardcore Dem NJ uncle about Chris Christie's catastrophic stomping all over his preferred candidate, Barbara Buono.

Posted by: Jeff B. at November 25, 2013 12:19 PM (n/+FT)

156

15: leftist are like maggots


Whoa there!! We provide a very usefull task for the world. Those dead critters don't disappear by themselves you know. Plus were very usefull for severly burned people. We are NOT like leftists at all!!

Posted by: maggots at November 25, 2013 12:19 PM (84BnS)

157 7.  If ObamaCare is so great why don't you sign up for it yourself?

Posted by: isophorone at November 25, 2013 12:20 PM (5UyKW)

158 Oh btw got a letter from my health insurance provider. Since I was not given a 90 notice of my policy cancellation I get to keep till the end of February.

Posted by: YIKES! at November 25, 2013 12:20 PM (mETGQ)

159 Wow, the Governor was here once this morning, and is now coming back. I'd expect some press releases from a certain state about how their exchange is actually working now somewhat soon...lol

Posted by: akula51[/b][/i][/s] at November 25, 2013 12:20 PM (Iyi/j)

160 So the Thanksgiving dinner table this year should be extra special. I'm expecting long-knives and hurt feelings before the first bottle is empty.

Thanks Obama.

Posted by: Blue State Hostage

Bring extra hooch

Posted by: Jean at November 25, 2013 12:20 PM (CMlD4)

161 Try redirecting the conversation with 'do you know of any free country's worth emigrating to?'

Posted by: Chaos the other dark meat at November 25, 2013 12:20 PM (oDCMR)

162 I want to stick up for some Ivy Leaguers! My little sister (a C.P.A.) who went to an Ivy League school (Wharton at U of P) is one of the most raging right winged conservatives you will ever find on the planet. I wish I was having Thanksgiving with her and my family!

Posted by: runningrn at November 25, 2013 12:20 PM (PLOz8)

163 lemme repeat this one from a "Truth Team" email 11/16:

"This fight has always had one goal: providing all Americans with better health care at more affordable prices."

[So how's that working out for you, Uncle Stupid?]

Posted by: Mallfly at November 25, 2013 12:21 PM (bJm7W)

164 The libs in your family will really enjoy the JEF-Face dart board game.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 25, 2013 12:21 PM (IXrOn)

165 Wow. I feel really fortunate that I will be spending Thanksgiving with just my wife (who is about as non-political as can be) and my two quite under-18 sons. The only thing that I will have to worry about arguing over is who gets to play the x-box first, and for how long. But, especially for you guys who must face the horror of  liberal relatives, I wish you all a Happy Thanksgiving. 

Posted by: DaveinNC at November 25, 2013 12:21 PM (boNGU)

166 Since I was not given a 90 notice of my policy cancellation I get to keep till the end of February. Posted by: YIKES!

I think there might be a lot of those letters coming out in the second week of November next year.

Everyone who got a cancellation letter should bring it to Thanksgiving dinner.  Just for the dramatic effect.

Posted by: Jean at November 25, 2013 12:21 PM (CMlD4)

167 68 Remember how Obama was against gay marriage like only last year and now you call everyone in your family who opposes gay marriage bigots? Yeah, go eat your turkey in your Pinto, and take that bitch wife with you. Posted by: Dr Spank at November 25, 2013 04:06 PM (xlX1p) I'm detecting...something personal about this. I'm also sensing A Culture of Hatred.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 25, 2013 12:21 PM (oFCZn)

168 the liberal one is a gay seminary-student-turned-ad-executive currently living in northern NJ. Your uncle is Jim McGreevy? ;^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 25, 2013 12:21 PM (23Kgq)

169 ...and that's why I can't be friends with proggs.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at November 25, 2013 04:18 PM (ZKzrr)



Yeah, when you follow it to the logical conclusion, they are truly barbaric creatures.

Posted by: grognard at November 25, 2013 12:22 PM (/29Nl)

170 Oh btw got a letter from my health insurance provider. Since I was not given a 90 notice of my policy cancellation I get to keep till the end of February. Thanks be to Obama, the giver of all things just and good. Praise Him in the heavenly places.

Posted by: runningrn at November 25, 2013 12:22 PM (PLOz8)

171

>>Most of it is incorrect, including the stuff that says "checked at Snopes."

.

.

.I love those.  The first thing I do is go to Snopes and check.  Most of the time they are urban legend stuff and I toss that back to the person who sent me the drivel in the first place.

Posted by: Registered Voter at November 25, 2013 12:22 PM (nUbHY)

172
"Can I talk to you about Obamacare?"

"Sure. You want a Hertz Donut?"

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 25, 2013 12:22 PM (kdS6q)

173 Dear liberal family member:

FUCK YOU.

Posted by: DangerGirl, home sweet home at November 25, 2013 12:22 PM (GrtrJ)

174 Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at November 25, 2013 04:14 PM (ZKzrr)

Libtards have been parroting the subsidy line to me for weeks now. (Long story.)

I fail to see how jacking up someone's prices, then giving them a government handout to compensate (yes I know it doesn't come anywhere near compensation, bear with me here.)
Anyway, I fail to see how that is useful for anything but making more government cheese addicted voters.

I said that once to a libtard and they abandoned the "subsidy" line of argument entirely. Just fucking conceded the battlefield on it.
After that it was pretty much open season on every other point they made.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No really! at November 25, 2013 12:22 PM (GaqMa)

175 Whoa there!! We provide a very usefull task for the world. Those dead critters don't disappear by themselves you know. Plus were very usefull for severly burned people. We are NOT like leftists at all!!

Posted by: maggots at November 25, 2013 04:19 PM (84BnS)

 

 

And maggots can actually    provide a medical service by cleaning out dead tissue from a wound.    The other day I saw someone with a suppurating,  necrotic     sore   on their upper thigh, and they were    banging away at     it with a      bound     of the ACA.     Didn't seem to be helping much.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/i][/u] at November 25, 2013 12:23 PM (4df7R)

176 Remember when you said Obama would make the world a safer place and get Iran to stop building nukes?


Yeah, well, I banged your wife.
Posted by: Dr Spank

Do you think Bibi goes for the drama points and hits Iran after dinner on Thursday?

Posted by: Jean at November 25, 2013 12:24 PM (CMlD4)

177 Remember when I told you I didn't stir the gravy with my finger after using it to pick my nose?....... OK, that made me spew the contents of my glass all over the place!

Posted by: runningrn at November 25, 2013 12:24 PM (PLOz8)

178 PEOPLE ARE DYING OF CANCER!!11!!!

Posted by: Libtard backed into the corner at November 25, 2013 12:24 PM (oFCZn)

179 "If you like your white meat, you can keep your white meat."

*Then take all the white meat*

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 25, 2013 12:24 PM (8ZskC)

180 You get the canned cranberry sauce, the homemade kind is being redistributed to your poorer siblings.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at November 25, 2013 12:25 PM (WdbF7)

181 Pie.

http://www.kitchennostalgia.com/desserts/pies/triple-layer-pumpkin-icebox-pie.html

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 25, 2013 12:25 PM (iGPSR)

182 I didn't make it here in time for the last thread so I'll drop this here.

It never ceases to amaze me that Progtards encourage family members to fight with one another during a family gathering.  Where it should be a time for people to just love and enjoy being with each other and they need to inject animosity and bullshit into it.

Democrats:  building rifts between families since...forever.

Posted by: DangerGirl, home sweet home at November 25, 2013 12:25 PM (GrtrJ)

183 Do you think Bibi goes for the drama points and hits Iran after dinner on Thursday?
Posted by: Jean


If by "hits them" you mean turn over our nuclear secrets then, yes, he will hit them.

Posted by: Dr Spank at November 25, 2013 12:25 PM (xlX1p)

184 PEOPLE ARE DYING OF CANCER!!11!!!

Posted by: Libtard backed into the corner at November 25, 2013 04:24 PM (oFCZn)

 

 

Yes, and you're the one killing them.    My conscience is clear!

 

Pass the potatoes.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/i][/u] at November 25, 2013 12:25 PM (4df7R)

185 Guy Mowhawk, that pie looks killer. Have you made it?

Posted by: runningrn at November 25, 2013 12:26 PM (PLOz8)

186 A sin is something that a person does, when they should know better, like talk politics over a holiday dinner they didn't pay for. Winner winner turkey dinner!!

Posted by: rickb223 at November 25, 2013 12:26 PM (E7Zh9)

187 Mugiwara, your whole family sounds about as bright as pygmies. And the Ivy League one probably thinks he's the cat's meow while all he is is the chief good luck piece of affirmation that his parents did right for him.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 25, 2013 04:18 PM (GSSdy)


The whole family in general is pretty rock-solid conservative. It was just my granddad's eldest daughter (my aunt) decided to be a hippie, married a bearded Marxist from Dartmouth born with a silver spoon, and has spent a lifetime indulging in Leftist pap, calling me a racist as they're ever moving into whiter and more insulated neighborhoods. Pricks all of em, they're gonna get what's coming, and this year, I doubt my grandparents and mom will plead with me to hold back on them.

Posted by: mugiwara at November 25, 2013 12:26 PM (W7ffl)

188 I think there's this delusional fantasy many people have, that their relatives are gonna show up and admit "I'm wrong, you're right, you're smarter than me, Happy Thanksgiving."  It will not happen.  You cannot change people like this; they will change on their own, or else they won't, regardless of how boorishly you behave at Holidays.

Here's my suggested solution to obnoxious lefty relatives:

"Arguing politics is bad for digestion."
"OK, no more politics, please; this is Thanksgiving."

Really, it's your choice whether or not to take the bait.

Posted by: sandy burger at November 25, 2013 12:27 PM (4dy3y)

189
Never stuff the turkey with oyster dressing, allow the cheapskate relatives to drink the Jack Daniels Black Label, or permit Uncle Asshole to fart his way through dinner. 

Best advise, never invite any liberal asshole relative on any day of the year, especially Thanksgiving when the Cowboys play the Raiders. 


Posted by: Doctor Fish at November 25, 2013 12:27 PM (pJF+c)

190 If the Republicans would not  be such obstructionists  and help the President and the Country by  helping him  fix   the unintended  snags  in the Affordable Care Act ,  we would not be in this situation.    By refusing to do anything,  the Republicans are telling the people of the United States that they don't care if you have healthcare and are sick or could die.   Pass the Turkey  you facist. 

Posted by: Progressive Unswayed at November 25, 2013 12:27 PM (m2CN7)

191 Designed to fail. Next stop: Single Payer.

Posted by: USA at November 25, 2013 12:27 PM (VIaw0)

192 169 the liberal one is a gay seminary-student-turned-ad-executive currently living in northern NJ.

Your uncle is Jim McGreevy? ;^) Posted by: FenelonSpoke

Its worse, his other Uncle is Mourdock

Posted by: Jean at November 25, 2013 12:27 PM (CMlD4)

193

I'll be celebrating Thanksgiving with my parents and sister/bro in law. The parents will be staying with me and the sister/bil live a couple of 100 yards away. The most important thing is we are all Very conservative. So political talk won't be an issue. We all agree with each other. Lucky I guess.

Posted by: puddleglum at November 25, 2013 12:28 PM (84BnS)

194 Just leave a note that their thanksgiving dinner plan is changing and they will be downgraded to a turducken bronze plated plan, but don't worry brussels sprouts and fruit cake are covered. Pumpkin cake is gonna cost yah!

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at November 25, 2013 12:28 PM (WdbF7)

195

Remember, dipshit pres is the victim of his own law as well.  How could he know guys?  How could he know?

 

Rush was so right about his victim card.

Posted by: prescient11 at November 25, 2013 12:28 PM (tVTLU)

196 London slaveholders were Maoists!

Posted by: thunderb at November 25, 2013 12:29 PM (zgfjs)

197
Posted by: runningrn at November 25, 2013 04:26 PM (PLOz

Not yet, my wife decided to go with that one for Thanksgiving.  I'll let you know.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 25, 2013 12:29 PM (iGPSR)

198 The Simpsons were funny last night. Dumb People learned that Republicans are only using Latinos for votes, and the only good Republican is a moderate Republican.

Posted by: soothsayer is connectin the dots at November 25, 2013 12:30 PM (LPRBM)

199 My dad is a dyed-in-the-wool Democrat, but I rarely have to worry about talking politics with him at holidays. Mostly, this is because the moment he tries (and while he's the instigator, I'm not one to back down from a fight), my apolitical mother and wife tell us to STFU and leave politics alone for the day. Boring but effective.

Posted by: Hal at November 25, 2013 12:30 PM (MftY/)

200 Wait, you can't keep your plan?

You Can't keep your doctor or hospital?

You are not saving $2500/yr but paying more than $10,000 more per year?

The web site is not as easy as Kayak or Amazon?

The cost to the government is four times more than estimated?

I have only one question, do I know of this?

Posted by: King Barky the Liar at November 25, 2013 12:30 PM (WGm5T)

201 Hey Ace, can you help me out?  I have this   annoying   liberal  nephew who.....

Posted by: Jerf B's Gay Uncle at November 25, 2013 12:30 PM (TOk1P)

202 This will be helpful as we are flying in and hosting a dozen libtard relatives! Yay me!

Posted by: thunderb at November 25, 2013 12:31 PM (zgfjs)

203 Oh the eldest daughter did the 'I am a little rebel' schtick.  Sorry to hear that.  But when the starving masses rebel, their little estates will be the first to feel the torch.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 25, 2013 12:31 PM (GSSdy)

204 One-step Obamabot Stopper

Is Guantanamo still open, motherfucker?

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at November 25, 2013 12:32 PM (nq+/u)

205

Talking points with progressives at Thanksgiving.

 

1.  Shuddup

 

2.  I said Shaddup

 

3.  If you don't Shaddup I'm going to Shut you up

 

4.  You're going to need Obamacare in about 2 seconds.

 

5.   Can someone  get an  ice pack  PDQ.   Thanks. 

Posted by: polynikes at November 25, 2013 12:32 PM (m2CN7)

206 Remember when Obama supported the Filibuster and now it's like, whatever?

Yeah, one of your kids is mine, the smart one.

Posted by: Dr Spank at November 25, 2013 12:32 PM (xlX1p)

207 200 My wife furiously kicks me under the table. Good times.

Posted by: Blue State Hostage at November 25, 2013 12:32 PM (JMt7S)

208 This sorta presumes that the liberal at the table will even admit ObamaCare has actual problems (beyond the website). Wont they just parrot the OFA mantra that millions of Americans now have access to high quality affordable healthcare? And all the rest of it. Any lefty who's informed enough to know it's a disaster wont bring it up. Any lefty who's not informed wont know what you're talking about.

Posted by: gwelf at November 25, 2013 12:33 PM (+7Usq)

209 OT: I thought this woman was the usual prison con artist: My name is Chasity West and IÂ’m a lifelong native of Connecticut. Prior to my arrest I worked as a licensed nurse. In 1998 I was sentenced to life without parole on a first offense. I guess her arguement is that the first murder should be a freebie? Anyway, this is what she did: West, 30, was sentenced to life plus an additional 70 years in prison in 2001 after a jury convicted her of killing Jarrell Cuyler by wrapping a phone cord around his neck and then nearly decapitating him with a box cutter. The jury, which rejected giving West the death penalty, also found West guilty of slashing Jarrell's younger sister, Lindsey, on the neck and wrist because West was jealous of the attention the children received from their father, Arnold Cuyler, who was West's lover at the time.

Posted by: François Villon at November 25, 2013 12:33 PM (kkbgQ)

210 Maoists, like the JEF, has no problem making slaves of people as long as its for the good of the collective.

Posted by: thunderb at November 25, 2013 12:34 PM (zgfjs)

211 Barry Soetoro is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure, pass the fuckin' potatoes.

Posted by: toby928© blurts at November 25, 2013 12:35 PM (QupBk)

212 Even Factcheck.org is turning against him: "Fact check: HealthCare.gov estimates may be misleading" http://tinyurl.com/k9lzyd2 Pretty brutal, for them at least.

Posted by: Connie at November 25, 2013 12:35 PM (kdfQ/)

213  Designed to fail.
Next stop: Single Payer.

Posted by: USA at November 25, 2013 04:27 PM (VIaw0)

 

 

-------------------------------------------------

 

 

My argument for this:  You might as well buy  that super-expensive, under-acheiving  shit insurance policy under this plan now, because if this goes to single payer, the  gubmint is going to take as much or a lot more out of your wallet  in taxes to pay for it......and  modern, state-of-the-art medicine will become just a faint memory.

Posted by: Soona at November 25, 2013 12:35 PM (66ULQ)

214 My wife furiously kicks me under the table. Good times. Posted by: Blue State Hostage at November 25, 2013 04:32 PM (JMt7S) Pro tip. Soccer shin guards. http://tinyurl.com/n46mktc

Posted by: YIKES! at November 25, 2013 12:35 PM (mETGQ)

215 Remember when you said you were bringing mashed potatoes? Boy, you really suck.

Posted by: RS at November 25, 2013 12:35 PM (YAGV/)

216 44 Don't forget to remind them Obama's a fucking mother fucked a Kenyan also.

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 25, 2013 04:00 PM (0FSuD)

 

 

FTFY.....

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX (@Teresa_Koch) at November 25, 2013 12:36 PM (PZ6/M)

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX (@Teresa_Koch) at November 25, 2013 12:36 PM (PZ6/M)

218
@94

If you are not eligible for the subsidies  (if you're white then you're not) and don't want your identity stolen, you don't HAVE to deal with the website at all. As far as I understand it, you have ALWAYS had the option of avoiding the website and dealing directly with insurers.

So Obama "allowing" this is just another piece of heath care propaganda.

Posted by: shibumi at November 25, 2013 12:36 PM (25HWz)

219 I bought a tofurkey for the libtards That should punish them.

Posted by: thunderb at November 25, 2013 12:37 PM (zgfjs)

220 Damn you, Pixy - I closed my  emboldening after "a" and before "Kenyan".....

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX (@Teresa_Koch) at November 25, 2013 12:37 PM (PZ6/M)

221

216 -

 

I will jam a pencil in the eye of the next person who says sweet potatos are an adequate substitute for good old fashioned, American white potatos. 

Posted by: BurtTC at November 25, 2013 12:38 PM (TOk1P)

222 I was just going to say: "The Tea Party sure was right about Obamacare, huh? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA"

Posted by: forest at November 25, 2013 12:38 PM (stMuz)

223 Sometimes, you just have to rub their noses in it.

Posted by: Ceasar Milan at November 25, 2013 12:39 PM (Pr6hk)

224 Damn you, Pixy - I closed my emboldening after "a" and before "Kenyan"Â….. If you want your barrel, you can keep your barrel.

Posted by: Paid for by Citizens for Clyde the Orangutan at November 25, 2013 12:39 PM (QF8uk)

225 AhemÂ… Dons gogglesÂ… Damn I love me some of them sweet taters. Hold the mashed.

Posted by: Blue State Hostage at November 25, 2013 12:39 PM (JMt7S)

226 Maybe we should "redistribute" the meal from those who didn't contribute anything to it to all those who did? Let black jesus feed you turkey...

Posted by: elaine at November 25, 2013 12:41 PM (GNZ0/)

227 If I have Thanksgiving finner with anyone it will be one of three families. Range from somewhat God fearing to totally so and all conservative. EBR's and everything. Outside of them, I prefer my own company over most others.

Posted by: teej at November 25, 2013 12:41 PM (Nsomq)

228 I want to stick up for some Ivy Leaguers!

Thanks, runningrn. I realize full well that the Venn diagram of "Ivy League grad" and "sanctimonious liberal douche" has significant overlap. But there are a couple of us Morons who defy the stereotype.

Posted by: jakeman at November 25, 2013 12:42 PM (zHXv8)

229 Sweet taters ain't sweet...or taters.

Taters are white.

I denounce myself.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 25, 2013 12:42 PM (NDA7a)

230 this is from CBS news Nov 6:

" "Across this state, you've got a million people -- because this is a big state -- a million people, citizens, who don't have health insurance who get insurance right away," Mr. Obama said, referring to Texans who would qualify for the expanded version of Medicaid."

so if you have Medicaid you're considered insured? I wonder how many of the Dem's "uninsured" were covered by Medicaid.

Posted by: Mallfly at November 25, 2013 12:43 PM (bJm7W)

231 PEOPLE ARE DYING OF CANCER!!11!!! Then why was Obamacare delayed until after the 2012 election? And why were employers and unions delayed from action until next year? Why is Obama willy-nilly shifting various compliance dates until after elections?

Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262© at November 25, 2013 12:43 PM (9Bdcz)

232 Dear Ace: Could you please change "keep your stupid mouth shut" to "keep your pie hole shut"? No big deal; referring to a stupid mouth as a pie hole just tickles me. Kthxbai

Posted by: jwpaine @PirateBallerina at November 25, 2013 12:44 PM (9hVHZ)

233
You just know someone on this forum will make this for Thanksgiving.


http://tinyurl.com/6lfwmuz

Posted by: Doctor Fish at November 25, 2013 12:44 PM (pJF+c)

234 I try to remember that when I was younger I believed a lot of the same crap they did.  Then (1) I went to law school and learned some Con Law (WTF happened to the 9th and 10th Amendments, anyway?!?) ; (2)  Clinton splooged all over Lewinsky's dress; (3) these monsters lined up to defend the perjury; (4) spent some time on the local city council; and (5) Found some thinkers on the internet (Ace!).

The proverbial scales from my eyes. 

So I try to be sympathetic and hopeful that they'll eventually catch up.

Of course, the brother-in-law with the Ph.D and the 20 year record of bitter, itinerant employment is a tough nut to crack.

Posted by: dfg321 at November 25, 2013 12:46 PM (Xv7f/)

235 >>>Hey Ace, can you help me out? I have this annoying liberal nephew who.....

Dumb. But expected from you, Burt.

Anyway, as it happens I'm probably not technically the most conservative person in my immediate family of longtime Washingtonians. That would be my mom, a Ph.D scientist who nevertheless combines public fame (in her particular discipline) with a Catholic Missouri/Indiana country farmgirl's basic outlook on life.  (My dad is an upstate NY'er, whose politics are essentially conservative but ultimately driven more by his burning desire to see the Democrats lose more than wanting the Republicans to win per se.)  My brother rebels against the rest of our right-wing groupthink by being a casual liberal, but I doubt he thinks too much about it.

My gay uncle, however, is truly a committed left-winger, and me and him get into a political argument pretty much every Thanksgiving/Christmas/get-together, even (especially!) when Mrs. Jeff B. is around to get roped in.  It's tons of fun because let's not kid ourselves, I win every single time on points, regardless

Posted by: Jeff B. at November 25, 2013 12:49 PM (n/+FT)

236 Taters are white.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 25, 2013 04:42 PM (NDA7a)
Racist!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at November 25, 2013 12:50 PM (pn5Ii)

237 203 This will be helpful as we are flying in and hosting a dozen libtard relatives! Yay me!

Posted by: thunderb at November 25, 2013 04:31 PM (zgfjs)

 

 

Cancel their tickets at the last minute and  tell them it's  due to "thunderbcare"....... 

 

I'm sure they'll be just fine with it.

 

 

 

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX (@Teresa_Koch) at November 25, 2013 12:51 PM (PZ6/M)

238 One of the beauties of this Thanksgiving is that the howling libs at the dinner table all have children in the middle-to-late teens and even the teens,- in their youthful estimations, - have concluded that the JEF is lying SCOAMF.

Posted by: Fritz at November 25, 2013 12:51 PM (TKFmG)

239 >>>
I will jam a pencil in the eye of the next person who says sweet potatos are an adequate substitute for good old fashioned, American white potatos.

You're right -- they're not a SUBSTITUTE, because that word suggests that sweet potatoes and your normal 'ghetto' potatoes are of identical quality.  Which of course they're not.  Every human being capable of taste and discernment already knows full-fucking-well that sweet potatoes are vastly superior to the ghetto Irish-trash "potato of poors" that you sadly fetishize. 

One of the virtues of Thanksgiving is that it's a rare opportunity for we Americans to briefly acknowledge that yes, sweet potatoes really ARE the Master Race Tuber.

Posted by: Jeff B. at November 25, 2013 12:54 PM (n/+FT)

240 Hey now, you know what?  Fuck this "RINO VS. TRUECON" bullshit.

The real battlelines?  It's always been "potato" vs. "sweet potato."

Bring it on, motherfuckers.  Bring it on.

Posted by: Jeff B. at November 25, 2013 12:57 PM (n/+FT)

241 You're going to need Obamacare in about 2 seconds.

I'm so stealing this.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at November 25, 2013 12:58 PM (ZKzrr)

242 221 Damn you, Pixy - I closed my emboldening after "a" and before "Kenyan".....

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX (@Teresa_Koch) at November 25, 2013 04:37 PM (PZ6/M)

I took a quick look at the source code and no, you didn't.  You left off the forward slash before the letter "b" in the close tag.

Posted by: HTL at November 25, 2013 01:02 PM (d6iMX)

243 I don't care what you do behind closed doors Jeff B...as long as I don't have to pay taxes for it...

Posted by: dumbartist...Ars longa, vita brevis at November 25, 2013 01:05 PM (ahBY0)

244 When the Obamacare kills you you can get Obalming covered under the plan.

Posted by: Mr. Wizard at November 25, 2013 01:13 PM (S5LPT)

245 My plan is this --

1. set the succulent, delicious turkey down on the table,
2. hand a computer to any libtards present, and
3. tell them they're only allowed to eat Thanksgiving dinner after they've successfully enrolled in ObamaCare. 

Anything they don't get to before the rest of us finish eating gets fed to the dogs. 

Posted by: Phinn at November 25, 2013 01:17 PM (KOGmz)

246 All of those things you were crowing about before, and just now, with respect to ObamaCare?

What you said was a collection of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent diatribe were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this family is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul...

 

Posted by: VekTor at November 25, 2013 01:36 PM (N7DZ0)

247 Shorter Ace: if you open your trap and recite talking points, my boot, your ass, some assembly required.

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie © at November 25, 2013 01:48 PM (1hM1d)

248 If you have emotional support to fall back upon, wage righteous battle debate. Otherwise, cut out from your life the clueless who only learn when burned like a cancer.

Posted by: Summum Bonum at November 25, 2013 02:06 PM (R6JT1)

249 Don't forget one of the law's selling points was that it was going to "save money"; it will in fact pile on more than $2 TRILLION to our debt and that is a low estimate. Electronic Medical Records are also not working well when linked between different health centers and the main market share is just enriching a lady Billionaire from Chicago who is also a huge Obama supporter.

Posted by: Donovan Nuera at November 25, 2013 02:22 PM (gz9uP)

250 This post got a link from foxnation. http://tinyurl.com/on4h96y

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 25, 2013 02:41 PM (IXrOn)

251

Are you kidding?

Any relative of mine (and I unfortunately do have some hard-core obammy fans that I have to tolerate at family gatherings) who would pull that shit at a family gathering would be physically escorted out of my home, and that would be the last time there would be any kind of contact between us.

They're already at the wedding/funeral/holiday stage of contact with us, mostly "hi" and "bye".  And that's just because of civility on my part.

But they cross a line and start talking their leftist politics, and they will be gone, permanently.

All those things you said above, they are wasted words on people from the left.  They are unapologetic ideologues who can never be wrong.  Kick their asses out of your home instead of wasting your breath. 

Actions speak louder than words.

Posted by: Uncle Jefe at November 25, 2013 02:55 PM (25KoS)

252 Umm The Pittsburgh Courier is NOT a local newspaper as that term is generally used. It is a black newspaper (albeit one with a famous history) with a very small circulation.

Posted by: JeffM at November 25, 2013 03:13 PM (LIc41)

253

Nah.  Just ask them to explain Obamacare to you.  You'll find they have no idea.  Ask them how exactly was Obamacare supposed to provide more medical care to more people for less money?  What exactly is the mechanism by which our costs will decrease? If more people are going to get more medical care, won't we need more doctors and hospitals?  Where will they come from?  What parts of the law is it okay for Obama to ignore?  What parts must he obey?  Does his ability to ignore the law as written impact people's willingness to abide by the law themselves? If insurnace were cheap, wouldn't everybody have it?  So isn't the problem of the uninsured all about insurance costs?  How does Obamacare lower costs? If it costs less to pay the fine than get health insurance via Obamacare, won't anybody that's healthy simply opt to pay the fine?  Given we can't be turned down for pre-existing conditions, why won't people just wait to get sick then buy gold plated insurance?  What do we do if the website never works right?

You run this series of questions the right way, calmly, questioning, like "My stupid brain is just trying to understand, teach me oh wise one".  Trust me, the result is hysterical to watch. 

Posted by: Rorscharch republican at November 25, 2013 03:36 PM (/EkKm)

254 SNAP!

Posted by: Zelda at November 25, 2013 09:19 PM (I7/r9)

255 Here's your Bronze Plan Tofurkey but only after you've fulfilled your Individual Mandate to clean up dogshit in the yard. The white meat smoked turkey is out of network and the dark meat has been redistributed to the dog and cat.

Posted by: X at November 26, 2013 07:03 AM (KHo8t)

256 My comment to a family friend who was gushing about HillaryCare back in 94: "If we socialize 1/7th of the economy we will be 1/7th of the way to the Soviet Union." Of course the liberty haters had already socialized retirement and done lots of socialism by regulation but I didn't mention that.

Posted by: Alec Rawls at November 26, 2013 08:31 AM (kTTUz)

257 I have already disowned any liberals in my family and have nothing to do with them. Liberalism is a mental disease and a cancer of the intellect. Why associate with people who only are in your world through the accident of birth? I prefer to walk with winners, not hang with losers.

Posted by: Twazzle at November 26, 2013 11:48 AM (MjOC/)

258 Y'all seem to be talkin' trash about His Imperi0us Travesty, Barack II, King of The 57 States, Defender of The Golf Links and Other Shizzle.

Posted by: LTC Ted at November 26, 2013 01:22 PM (6wqZn)

259 They Knew All Along! CBSÂ’s Sharyl Attkisson: GovÂ’t Knew All Along Millions Would Lose Employer-Based Insurance http://commoncts.blogspot.com/2013/11/they-knew-all-along-cbss-sharyl.html

Posted by: Steve at November 26, 2013 01:25 PM (Xn67h)

260 What makes you think my family are a bunch of liberals. ! (note to self. study the talking points)

Posted by: wer at November 26, 2013 01:54 PM (4uPRu)

261

Remember when President Obama said:...

Pepperidge Farm does.

Posted by: Hienz57: My family never met a race it didn't tryto love. at November 26, 2013 02:38 PM (H45zN)

262 For the leftists in your circle of family/friends who aren't the hopeless Koolaid chugger types but belong to that vast ignorati produced by 3 generations of cultural programming, now might actually be a great time to start gingerly walking them back from the propaganda daze push them towards thinking critically about their views. I've argued long and loud with countless fools on the left and have rarely accomplished anything but pushing them further inside their reality-free bubble. Over time I've found you can reach those whose minds haven't snapped completely shut but not with shouts and insults and in-your-face lists of facts (though it does feel great to smack down a know-nothing prog). Ask a question out loud as if you're struggling with the same problem they are; one that forces them to confront the logical fallacies their "beliefs" are built on. It shocks me how quickly, and sometimes completely, you can wake somebody from their trance once they feel safe to question why they believe the things they do. It's damn refreshing to watch the change too as it is usually quite dramatic.

Posted by: Cain at November 26, 2013 03:50 PM (znU+F)

263 That post was Schadenfreude. That may be the ultimate example of Schadenfreude. (And well-deserved.) And I've copied all your points in order to point them out to my 'voted for the the Unicorn' relatives. (I no longer have friends who voted for him - though that may change, considering...but relatives, you are stuck with.)

Posted by: Kathy Kinsley at November 26, 2013 04:01 PM (JUpQX)

264 Typical conservative attitude, all sanctimonious bullshit and using the Thanksgiving dinner table to tell a relative to "keep your stupid mouth shut". Yeah, that's a wonderful reflection of American values right there. Be an asshole and proud of it.  Thanks for demonstrating why so many Americans reject conservative politics and ideology.

Posted by: Matthew Bellows at November 27, 2013 10:40 AM (gCBWo)

265 Matthew,

This is a response to the Democrat Party's Thanksgiving dinner talking points "cheat sheet" they are emailing to their subscribers - to do exactly what you accuse conservatives of doing, which is ruin Thanksgiving dinner by making it all about your liberal politics and your hatred of any family members just because they don't agree with your political views.

Posted by: Joe Smith at November 28, 2013 09:43 AM (9tC+6)

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