April 13, 2013
— Open Blogger Here's something to ponder...
Is Windows Vista actually better than the rep its gotten?
Sure, there were teething problem and such when first released. There was a lot of new code there beyond XP, but a fully patched up install on TODAY's multi-core multi-Ghz hardware (or even 5 years ago hardware), with 4G or so of memory is NOT hideously slow or particularly unstable. An old Pentium 4 with a 1G of memory, and an 80G drive? Well...that's different. THAT sucks ass very much running Vista.
Would you rather have the Windows 8 bizarro world interface or the Vista rolling whorehouse pimpmobile interface? I'm getting kinda comfy with the pimpmobile in a machine I'm setting up to do some Windows Phone phone app development on.
Windows 7 is kinda like Vista minus the sketchy stability (at the time) bloatware glitz, plus moar drivers. I like Windows 7. W7 has a spartan Windows 2000 ambiance -- it doesn't get in your way.
I stuck with Windows 2000 from its release through early 2012. I had it on dual-P133 machines, dual Pentium Pro's, some Pentium II/III machines and found it to be pretty stable on officially supported hardware.
In 12 years of use I can count the number of W2K BSOD's I had on one hand, and all of those were due to busted hardware or some unsupported crap I was trying to prod into functioning with witchcraft and animal sacrifices.
The thing about W2K, and Windows 7 is they run OK on the hardware of their respective eras. There wasn't a big "expectation gap" like there was with Vista.
Suppose Microsoft had done a XP "second edition" with more hardware/driver support and delayed Vista a couple of years until hardware developments caught up with its voracious appetite for consuming hardware?
Would our impressions of it be different? I think so.
I know at the time I read the minimum hardware specs for Vista and thought "Wow, I don't have any machines in inventory with that!", so I passed on upgrading. If I did have a minimum machine, I'd have been disappointed anyway.
But today, you can find machines literally in the trash that have specs to run Vista just fine. In fact, the machine I just installed it on was dumpster dived. I replaced one bad memory stick that made it act like it was stone freaking dead, and it sprang to life again. And the replacement stick came from another dived machine, so expenditure of instantaneous cash for repair was $0.00.
I needed a brief respite from thinking about the Gosnell horror story. This was it. This vid is hilarious.
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Posted by: Velvet Ambition at April 13, 2013 09:25 AM (R8hU8)
Posted by: EC at April 13, 2013 10:39 AM (doBIb)
Posted by: None at April 13, 2013 10:40 AM (AsiVD)
Posted by: @PurpAv at April 13, 2013 10:41 AM (/gHaE)
I saw a pretty new one in a dumpster a couple of weeks ago and gave it a pass.
Resistance is not futile. I won't join the collective.
Posted by: @PurpAv at April 13, 2013 10:42 AM (/gHaE)
Probably a smash'n'grab from an Occutard protest.
Posted by: EC at April 13, 2013 10:44 AM (doBIb)
Is Windows Vista actually better than the rep its gotten?
If you typed this ... Continue ... Cancel.
Short answer: no. Vista sucks dick, I don't care what machine you're running it on.
If you read this ... Continue ... Cancel.
AAaaaagggghhh!!!
Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 13, 2013 10:44 AM (IDSI7)
Posted by: None
And the Mac-hole regurgitation is fulfilled.
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at April 13, 2013 10:44 AM (5Hl3g)
Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at April 13, 2013 10:44 AM (feFL6)
Posted by: elizabethe at April 13, 2013 10:46 AM (qPCAa)
Posted by: Muad'dib at April 13, 2013 10:47 AM (SCTXH)
This laptop I am running is getting flaky.
If I need a new one, can I still get W7?
Or should I get a lap/desktop that has a touch interface and use W8?
Posted by: rd at April 13, 2013 10:48 AM (zLp5I)
Posted by: Muad'dib at April 13, 2013 10:48 AM (SCTXH)
Posted by: Andy at April 13, 2013 10:49 AM (OZPoa)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s] at April 13, 2013 10:50 AM (bxiXv)
Way to go, Microsoft!
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 13, 2013 10:50 AM (8ZskC)
Posted by: WalrusRex at April 13, 2013 10:51 AM (VlXYw)
Posted by: CarolT at April 13, 2013 10:52 AM (z4WKX)
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, assault Hobbit at April 13, 2013 10:53 AM (wbeNt)
Or should I get a lap/desktop that has a touch interface and use W8?
Posted by: rd
You can still get Win7, so the more important decision is how you use your machine.
Desktop touch machines are pretty pointless. If you just need a work-station, then W7 is prolly best.
If your machine is a 2nd computer used for surfing or email laptop or tablet w/ touch is becoming common.
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at April 13, 2013 10:53 AM (5Hl3g)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s] at April 13, 2013 10:53 AM (bxiXv)
I apologize
I was a beta tester for vista
on the bright side, we won't be renewing our TechNet account over the failure known as windows8
Posted by: navycopjoe at April 13, 2013 10:53 AM (UJm0p)
The Vista box does this weird thing though. Sometimes, on start up, it will shut down and restart 3 times, on the 3rd try it beeps and...nothing, no logo, just blankness. My solution is to use the nb for a few days and then try again which usually does the trick. Still, WTF man?
Posted by: CozMark at April 13, 2013 10:54 AM (BjOkm)
long sad strange story, but the villain is Windows Vista, may it rot in Hell next to Kermit Gosnell
Posted by: John from the Johnstown flood ( Pa. ) at April 13, 2013 10:54 AM (Dll6b)
Posted by: al at April 13, 2013 10:55 AM (4uuov)
I can't believe no one here mentioned the CNN headline from last Thursday "Al Qaeda - U.S. Gun Laws are Weak". I saw it on TV while eating lunch at work. The volume was muted and the captions were too far away for me to read, but I gather the CNN talking heads were thinking this was positive news.
Anti-2nd amendment folks have Al Qaeda in their corner, good to know.
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at April 13, 2013 10:56 AM (z8kfX)
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at April 13, 2013 10:56 AM (n8LUb)
Posted by: sTevo at April 13, 2013 10:56 AM (VMcEw)
Vista is easily 3x slower than 7 and probably more. 8 is faster than 7 by far, and not as freaky as you'd think - just go to the desktop and everything is fine. Ignore the start screen - and make your own start folder just like the old days. It is however, not as stable as 7 - I'm already having issues.
For instance, my 8 boot disk keeps thinking there's some USB device attached it doesn't recognize (there's not) and unlike every other OS turning it off in the hardware manager doesn't work. Stoopid. If I boot on my 7 disk, everything is cool - no scary USB device.
I'm going to do a new build soon and am thinking of getting another copy of 7 just because I don't think 8 is quite ready for prime time. 7 was so stable in fact I've had this quad-core PC longer than any other PC or Mac I've ever owned.
What finally screwed up my system 7 OS was an M$ update I didn't catch that corrupted the whole update thing. I could never roll back nor fix it even with the "update fixer" utility. Lesson learned - and have it ask to update giving you a chance to see just what it's going to do and when it does it.
Posted by: Clutch Cargo at April 13, 2013 10:56 AM (Qxdfp)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s] at April 13, 2013 10:56 AM (bxiXv)
Posted by: John from the Johnstown flood ( Pa. ) at April 13, 2013 10:56 AM (Dll6b)
Corporate America is gonna embrace that? Right. Go with that.
Posted by: @PurpAv at April 13, 2013 10:57 AM (/gHaE)
Posted by: sTevo at April 13, 2013 10:57 AM (VMcEw)
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, assault Hobbit at April 13, 2013 02:53 PM (wbeNt)
Win 7 is not bad if you can still find it.
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at April 13, 2013 10:58 AM (rm+Am)
Posted by: Grey Fox at April 13, 2013 10:58 AM (mp+4g)
46 at least win8 will still play crisis
whats even worse than what windows did to 8 is what dell did to the alienware
criminal
Posted by: navycopjoe at April 13, 2013 11:00 AM (UJm0p)
Posted by: Jerry at April 13, 2013 11:01 AM (4SKYj)
Lesson learned - and have it ask to update giving you a chance to see just what it's going to do and when it does it.
I learned that one the hard way too.
Other lessons:
1. Never buy a Microsoft OS when it first comes out. Wait at least a year, maybe forever.
2. Never ever "try" one of MS's "free" trials of the Office suite. It'll do its cyber kudzu impression, essentially scrub your HD of most of the old version, and take an afternoon to undo the damage.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 13, 2013 11:01 AM (IDSI7)
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at April 13, 2013 02:58 PM (rm+Am)
Sounds like that's my best bet. Especially since someone upthread said there were definite plans to axe XP before long.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, assault Hobbit at April 13, 2013 11:02 AM (wbeNt)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s] at April 13, 2013 11:02 AM (bxiXv)
XP support officially ends in April 2014.
That said, that just means they won't update security fixes anymore and some other minor details.
I don't know what happens if you have to reactivate it if you change hardware. Will reactivation work? I don't know. But I don't care because I bought my machine from vendor with win xp pre installed, I don't have to worry about reactivation problems.
You might not have to either.
They're providing a half assed path to upgrade but you have to have winxp pro to get it.
If they were smart (smart? This IS Microsoft) they would allow a relicense for xp to buy additional years of support. If it was reasonably priced, I'd buy it. Or an upgrade path from winxp Home.
I'll still putt along with my xp until I can't do what I want to do anymore and I'll worry about that then.
Now I've also upgrade my XP to the max with every full blown sp1, sp2, sp3 so ymmv and I also get the upgrades constantly. (I don't use automatic upgrade though)
If you don't use IE7 or IE 8 then security wise you're probably be okay for quite a while as the dick hackers will move on to the newer os's cause that's where the holes are.
If it ain't broke then don't keep coming out with crap and claim you're fixing something.
Microsoft needs to change their business model.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at April 13, 2013 11:03 AM (Kpn/z)
Posted by: CarolT at April 13, 2013 11:03 AM (z4WKX)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 13, 2013 11:03 AM (ZPrif)
So yeah, Vista really is that bad. We just got used to not being able to rely on some of its functions. There was no reason it had to be that way. They chose to handicap it as a giant F-U to their customer base.
And don't get me started on itunes or the iphone. Those things put me off Apple forever. They are much, much worse than anything Microsoft ever put out. You can pretty much guarantee that updates will wipe out your shit about 1/3rd of the time.
Posted by: Thatch at April 13, 2013 11:03 AM (qYvEa)
The W8 tile thing on any device that isn't screen real estate constrained is kinda ridiculous.
Corporate America is gonna embrace that? Right. Go with that.
Yep. My desktop has two good sized screens that are some distance away from me and therefore out of reach. I'm looking forward to having to lean forward to touch them to do anything.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 13, 2013 11:04 AM (IDSI7)
First, pull the memory (and cards) out and reseat them. No video is usually a bad memory module that's mapped at the extreme low end of memory.
If that memory is bad, the BIOS/POST won't work and the vid card never gets initialized.
The beeps are BIOS's way of telling you shit when there's no video.
If the reseat doesn't work, then pull the first memory module (probably marked 0 or 1 on the mobo) and swap it with another.
Posted by: @PurpAv at April 13, 2013 11:04 AM (/gHaE)
Are there that many vulnerabilities left in WinXP that you can't keep it trucking along after MS stops supporting it?
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at April 13, 2013 11:05 AM (rm+Am)
This would thwart their current plan to force XP users onto Windows 8. I doubt that they would ever consider it.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 13, 2013 11:05 AM (8ZskC)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 13, 2013 11:05 AM (29+x5)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 13, 2013 11:05 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s] at April 13, 2013 11:05 AM (bxiXv)
I wonder if that update is what ruined my Windows 7 computer?
The updates ran automatically at work and it installed IE10 and even through we rolled it back to IE9 at the office it affected IE9 in unpredictable ways.
Dunno, but I had a similar problem with an IE update that automatically loaded. That's what put me off of automatic updates, in fact. Took a while to restore everything to the way it had been.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 13, 2013 11:06 AM (IDSI7)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 13, 2013 11:07 AM (XYSwB)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 13, 2013 11:07 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: pbrown at April 13, 2013 11:07 AM (vbHmn)
Unfortunately they do like to release updates that break things.
It seems a lot of SW publishers do that nowadays. A program works fine, but then they have to "improve" it, and now it is overly complicated, buggy, slow, and crash-prone.
For that reason, I always keep the old versions of all my software, in case the publisher screws the pooch with an update.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 13, 2013 11:08 AM (IDSI7)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s] at April 13, 2013 11:08 AM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at April 13, 2013 11:08 AM (Kpn/z)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 13, 2013 11:08 AM (ZPrif)
My wife's machine which is newer is running 7 with no issues at all. We never had to deal with Vista.
Posted by: Vic at April 13, 2013 11:09 AM (53z96)
Purp does Windows phone development?!
(Although I'm guessing I'm the only horde member with a WP7 and WP8 
)
Posted by: tsrblke at April 13, 2013 11:09 AM (GaqMa)
Posted by: Chromoly Man at April 13, 2013 11:09 AM (vM+0I)
Posted by: Kermit Gosnell at April 13, 2013 11:10 AM (pfVS8)
Posted by: Rusty Nail at April 13, 2013 11:10 AM (WWuYG)
Posted by: Lauren at April 13, 2013 11:11 AM (wsGWu)
I'm not an Apple fanboi but I've owned three iPhones and I'm on my second iPad. Obviously, I like them. I've never had any problems updating the firmware. I think Apple's done about as good a job with this as anyone can do.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 13, 2013 11:11 AM (8ZskC)
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at April 13, 2013 03:05 PM (rm+Am)
I hope not, but if there are I'm sunk since I'm nearly rechnologically illiterate. Which I know is pathetic for someone on the internet all the time, but it isn't going to change either.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, assault Hobbit at April 13, 2013 11:11 AM (wbeNt)
I know this might negatively affect poor Mr. Bill Gates, and his lovely wife, but, meh....he can go nosh on a bag of dicks.
Posted by: Sticky Wicket at April 13, 2013 11:11 AM (0IhFx)
Posted by: Chromoly Man at April 13, 2013 03:09 PM (vM+0I)
you know you can still buy W7, right?
Personally waiting for the Blue update for W8 before I upgrade
Posted by: The Dude at April 13, 2013 11:12 AM (vJdyz)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 13, 2013 11:12 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 13, 2013 03:07 PM (XYSwB)
Me too. I didn't pass it on yesterday because I can't stand someone being coy while making such an important charge.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, assault Hobbit at April 13, 2013 11:13 AM (wbeNt)
I had some phone app ideas that hadn't been done yet, so I'm rolling with it...
I like the WP SDK so far. The Android stuff is freaking Elbonian though.
Posted by: @PurpAv at April 13, 2013 11:13 AM (/gHaE)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s] at April 13, 2013 11:14 AM (bxiXv)
Windows 8 may or may not have a useful interface for a tablet... I'll probably never know, since I haven't the slightest use for a tablet.
Posted by: Chris Morton at April 13, 2013 11:14 AM (uoVFE)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 13, 2013 03:12 PM (ZPrif)
just give me a OS that works with Kinect and the Rift
Posted by: The Dude at April 13, 2013 11:14 AM (vJdyz)
disable it and then monthly or if you hear something bad on the news go to the site where you can pick what updates you want installed.
choose custom installation, express is all the updates you just get to see what they are but can't keep them from being installed. Custom installation lets you see what they're going to do and eliminate any update you don't like from the list.
I always kept IE from being updated until a piece of software I bought required it's presence. that blew my ie6 installation so I went to firefox. Firefox has gone overboard with updates also but you can get older versions or just not update to the newest.
I'm only at ff8 now and it works fine.
I had to laugh, microsoft won't let you update the os using FF browser. What a gyp. do they really think i'm going to go ie just because?
If someone came out with a nice easy install of Linux, I'd try that again.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at April 13, 2013 11:14 AM (Kpn/z)
Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at April 13, 2013 11:15 AM (feFL6)
Posted by: Oschisms at April 13, 2013 11:15 AM (pfVS8)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 13, 2013 11:16 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: BumperStickerist at April 13, 2013 11:17 AM (19AvL)
You realize of course that you've just revealed how Pixy keeps the blog running
Posted by: kbdabear at April 13, 2013 11:18 AM (mCvL4)
Posted by: BumperStickerist at April 13, 2013 11:18 AM (19AvL)
Posted by: Tami[/i] at April 13, 2013 11:18 AM (X6akg)
Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at April 13, 2013 11:19 AM (e8kgV)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s] at April 13, 2013 11:19 AM (bxiXv)
Microsoft should have kept the NT and mass market tracks separate, I do not want eye candy that adds nothing to the performance and only eats up resources.
Posted by: Steve Skubinna at April 13, 2013 11:21 AM (KH6ow)
Posted by: The Mega Independent at April 13, 2013 11:21 AM (Lq5WC)
http://tinyurl.com/ch5cmgr
Posted by: kbdabear at April 13, 2013 03:10 PM (mCvL4)
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I'm running W7. No problems. Of course I don't really use the computer other than the web, paying bills, and, of course, wasting my time commenting on blogs.
Posted by: Soona at April 13, 2013 11:22 AM (7apbu)
Sure, lots of hackintosh's out there. I never used Vista, went from XP to 7 and liked 7 but went to 8 because of the cheapo upgrade price ($39) and like it too, a lot of the apps are petty handy on a desktop/laptop and the "charms bar" is nice once you remember it's there, plus a good repository of drivers so a lot of stuff is just plug in and go. Course, this linux mint cinnamon machine i'm typing this on rules everything.
Posted by: booger at April 13, 2013 11:24 AM (HI6wa)
Wow I thought I had hit the motherload finding still packaged with the Army Guard a set of 51/4s with Windows 2.0. It was a DOS menu system....
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 13, 2013 11:25 AM (rYImi)
Posted by: Tami at April 13, 2013 03:18 PM (X6akg)
I got that too. It plays fine if you click on the [YouTube] button and go to the video's web page.
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at April 13, 2013 11:26 AM (rm+Am)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 13, 2013 11:26 AM (rYImi)
That's fascinating since ME was kind of the Corvair of OS's
I think the OS logo for ME was the Blue Screen of Death
Posted by: kbdabear at April 13, 2013 11:27 AM (mCvL4)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 13, 2013 11:28 AM (rYImi)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 13, 2013 03:25 PM (rYImi)
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Keep it. The world will need it when it's rebuilding after the Dark Times.
Posted by: Soona at April 13, 2013 11:28 AM (7apbu)
Not quite barrel worthy, but definitely something more humiliating.
How about bucket?
Posted by: EC at April 13, 2013 11:28 AM (doBIb)
Posted by: BumperStickerist at April 13, 2013 11:29 AM (19AvL)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 13, 2013 11:29 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: booger at April 13, 2013 03:24 PM (HI6wa)
You just reminded me I have thin mints GS cookies in the freezer.
Posted by: Tami[/i] at April 13, 2013 11:30 AM (X6akg)
Posted by: SGT Dan's Cat at April 13, 2013 11:30 AM (jCQ+I)
I got that too. It plays fine if you click on the [YouTube] button and go to the video's web page.
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at April 13, 2013 03:26 PM (rm+Am)
Sometimes I get that message here and sometimes not.
Posted by: Tami[/i] at April 13, 2013 11:31 AM (X6akg)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 13, 2013 03:26 PM (rYImi)
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Thank you. Thank you. Don't forget to tip the waiter. 
Posted by: Soona at April 13, 2013 11:31 AM (7apbu)
Damn thing keeps disappearing if you either move or don't move your mouse for 1/8 of a second
Posted by: kbdabear at April 13, 2013 11:31 AM (mCvL4)
Posted by: CTRL-ALT-DEL at April 13, 2013 11:31 AM (19AvL)
Posted by: Zombie John Gotti at April 13, 2013 11:33 AM (1hekh)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 13, 2013 11:33 AM (8ZskC)
Posted by: SFGoth at April 13, 2013 11:33 AM (qYOQv)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 13, 2013 11:34 AM (ZPrif)
Download the Media Player Classic and give it a try.
http://sourceforge.net/projects/guliverkli/
Its light weight and handles more formats than WMP
Posted by: @PurpAv at April 13, 2013 11:34 AM (/gHaE)
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, assault Hobbit at April 13, 2013 03:11 PM (wbeNt)
Technological literacy is overrated. They're means, not ends.
Still find it funny/sad that my brother got my parents a Roomba. They never use it, and I'm pretty sure the battery's dead from dis-use.
Fortunately, we've learned from that lesson and got them a new LED TV they don't use much, either. = P
(Mom mainly watches foreign soap operas only available online)
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at April 13, 2013 11:35 AM (rm+Am)
You should probably get their security updates. There's holes on stuff other than IE.
If you're very careful or not adventurous than you may get by without them. I would update asap because after next year you won't be able to.
You can also still get sp3 (service pack 3) which covers all the updates up to about '09 I think. If anyone knows if they've released a new service pack speak up.
The MS site may tell you that also.
Just don't let the updater load anything it wants, really look hard at what they want to install. Reject ie7/ie8. If you want them, you can get them separately.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at April 13, 2013 11:35 AM (Kpn/z)
Posted by: CTRL-ALT-DEL at April 13, 2013 03:31 PM (19AvL)
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That's what I have to do to get the log-in page on my computer at work. They say it's for security, but I can't quite figure that out.
Posted by: Soona at April 13, 2013 11:35 AM (7apbu)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s] at April 13, 2013 11:39 AM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 13, 2013 11:39 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at April 13, 2013 03:35 PM
Everybody Roomba !!!
Posted by: Ricky Ricardo at April 13, 2013 11:40 AM (mCvL4)
Its light weight and handles more formats than WMP
Posted by: @PurpAv at April 13, 2013 03:34 PM (/gHaE)
Ok, downloaded it. Why are the install windows speaking to me in French?
Posted by: Tami[/i] at April 13, 2013 11:40 AM (X6akg)
Posted by: Lauren at April 13, 2013 11:41 AM (wsGWu)
The three finger DOS/Windows salute.
SALUTE!
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at April 13, 2013 11:41 AM (Kpn/z)
We dual boot the laptops with Windows for school programs etc. which require Windows.
Our basic rule is Linux online , Windows offline unless absolutely necessary and only then after running all patches updates and virus sigs.
I know PA doesn't care for Linux due to lack of complete documentation and I agree. It's a problem but my kids and I actually have learned a lot about problem solving and programming so - bonus.
Posted by: T. Hunter at April 13, 2013 11:41 AM (EZl54)
Fuck You, Pay Me!
Posted by: EA Corporate Motto at April 13, 2013 11:41 AM (mCvL4)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 13, 2013 11:43 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: zsasz at April 13, 2013 11:43 AM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Truman North at April 13, 2013 11:44 AM (I2LwF)
I have Win7 on this laptop, B'Gal's laptop still has XP. Hers is pretty slow, but it's old too.
What I don't like is all the websites that are for Win8 users. I stopped going to NASCAR.com because absolutely nothing worked for IE on it anymore. They just updated a couple of months ago before the new season started.
Anybody else who "upgrades" their site for Win8 will lose these eyeballs. I won't put up with a site I can't navigate.
Thank goodness there's nothing to navigate here.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at April 13, 2013 11:44 AM (+z4pE)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s] at April 13, 2013 11:46 AM (bxiXv)
Nobody with the "hey, whatever works for you" attitude runs huge projects.
I bet Steve Jobs didn't help things any. "I have the VISION! I'm going to make the next iPhone!"
/shakefist
(I find it funny how the Comp Science people like to play with the latest and greatest, while the engineers tend to go - "it works! don't touch it!")
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at April 13, 2013 11:46 AM (rm+Am)
Posted by: Ed Anger at April 13, 2013 11:46 AM (tOkJB)
Posted by: Truman North at April 13, 2013 11:47 AM (I2LwF)
They redesigned the sort selections and the summary thing.
Hated it.
I've noticed one thing about Computer tech/internet companies.
The better they are the more likely you'll find an easy way to contact them and/or send them feedback.
The harder or the more nonexistent sending feedback or comments to a company, the more likely they suck and will take you money and pull your pants down and run away laughing.
Amazon after YEARS still hasn't figured out that people might like to or know they have to jump to a certain point in the list of search pages to find what they're looking for. Do they give you that option. NOOOOOOOO.
Just try to suggest it to them and they'll answer with some polite gobbledy gook and you wind up with nothing. Not even a kiss.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at April 13, 2013 11:48 AM (Kpn/z)
Roombas are the NordicTrack of home cleaning.
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 13, 2013 03:43 PM (ZPrif)
Don't you mean that they blow?
*bada-bing*
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at April 13, 2013 11:48 AM (rm+Am)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at April 13, 2013 03:44 PM (+z4pE)
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Are you talking about here on AosHQ? Navigate? We're lucky to find the bathroom.
Posted by: Soona at April 13, 2013 11:48 AM (7apbu)
I tried every trick from every forum I could find short of formatting and reloading. Very frustrating.
Posted by: T. Hunter at April 13, 2013 11:49 AM (EZl54)
That's what i do except i don't even bother getting a whole machine, used motherboards and other hardware are really cheap so i just keep cramming used parts into mine whenever something breaks for about $30 or so average per part.
Posted by: booger at April 13, 2013 11:49 AM (HI6wa)
Posted by: zsasz at April 13, 2013 11:50 AM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at April 13, 2013 11:50 AM (JunLs)
Posted by: Truman North at April 13, 2013 11:51 AM (I2LwF)
Posted by: political correctness czar commenting from the West side of the Middle East at April 13, 2013 11:52 AM (ciMFt)
Yeah.
I learned a lot about cars crawling around under them in the freezing winter time. Doesn't mean I want to screw around with my computer os.
I hear what you're saying. It's just that Linux is too spread out and each distro is it's own operating system practically.
Which can be good but not if you're lazy like me and not if the documentation is spread over 30 files in 10 different folders and hidden under obscure acronyms.
NO. THANKS.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at April 13, 2013 11:52 AM (Kpn/z)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s] at April 13, 2013 11:54 AM (bxiXv)
Your comment reminds me of Steve Yegge's awesome platform rant , which should be bronzed and placed just beneath Paul Anka's for pure geek-snark awesomeness.
http://tinyurl.com/6k6gy24
Posted by: T. Hunter at April 13, 2013 11:54 AM (EZl54)
Posted by: zsasz at April 13, 2013 11:55 AM (MMC8r)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at April 13, 2013 03:44 PM (+z4pE)
OR to navigate to or with.
A nice CLEAN interface.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at April 13, 2013 11:55 AM (Kpn/z)
Haaa....love that video, PurpAV. You're right, hilarious.
I especially liked the garden hose on a tire rim.
They used to require 'Vehicle Inspections' here in OK, in order to get your tag renewed.
They did away with those years ago...and ever since, I've noticed some 'creative fixes' like that, on the roads.
Heh.
Posted by: wheatie at April 13, 2013 11:56 AM (Da0Xz)
Posted by: political correctness czar commenting from the West side of the Middle East at April 13, 2013 03:52 PM (ciMFt) There were a lot of complaints when they went to the Unity desktop.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 13, 2013 11:56 AM (D00cy)
The really insane thing?
Android is just crippled Linux.
And the masses are buying undocumented , open source Droid mobile devices like crazy.
Posted by: T. Hunter at April 13, 2013 11:57 AM (EZl54)
Posted by: t-dubyah-d at April 13, 2013 11:58 AM (u6lBN)
OR to navigate to or with.
A nice CLEAN interface.
Heh, everything here's been Moron-proofed over the years.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at April 13, 2013 12:00 PM (+z4pE)
Torvalds needs to step out of his ivory tower kernel and start herding some fucking cats.
The kernel has been "good enough" since 2.2/2.4, and could be handed off to a maintenance team for hardware support upgrades and bug fixing.
Its all that shit living on top of it that's where the chaos lives.
Posted by: @PurpAv at April 13, 2013 12:01 PM (/gHaE)
That's why dual booting is the best solution for me.
If a search of the Ubuntu support forums reveals no help ( which is pretty rare) I can choose Windows at startup instead of Linux.
I know VMs are the new hotness but I always have memory leaks and lag issues. I'd rather just reboot.
Posted by: T. Hunter at April 13, 2013 12:01 PM (EZl54)
My 70 year old older sister bought her first computer, a laptop, a couple of years ago. Went to visit her and she was complaining that it worked fine for about 5 hours and then it just stopped doing anything.
I went to look at it, and then asked her, where's the power cord?
Power cord?
Posted by: Soona at April 13, 2013 12:01 PM (7apbu)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s] at April 13, 2013 12:01 PM (bxiXv)
The "home cinema" version is the current version, the other one is an updated older version. And in French.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile at April 13, 2013 03:46 PM (bxiXv)
Ok, downloaded and installed that one. Rebooted and the video here still gives me 'video player is too small' message.
I'm sure it's this POS laptop. Thanks anyway.
Posted by: Tami[/i] at April 13, 2013 12:04 PM (X6akg)
Posted by: @PurpAv at April 13, 2013 12:05 PM (/gHaE)
Exactly. I have been following Ubuntu since 10.04 . The Gnome fanatics went ready to declare jihad over Ubuntu's dropping Gnome in favor of the Unity interface.
I guess maybe you can have too much choice.
Posted by: T. Hunter at April 13, 2013 12:05 PM (EZl54)
Posted by: zsasz at April 13, 2013 12:06 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: linux nerd at April 13, 2013 12:08 PM (IQI2h)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s] at April 13, 2013 12:08 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: mama winger at April 13, 2013 12:08 PM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: steevy at April 13, 2013 12:08 PM (9XBK2)
Power cord?
She wasn't trying to use the mouse as a foot pedal, I hope.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 13, 2013 12:09 PM (8ZskC)
I have a stoopid question...
When I transfer files to a DVD, I notice that the 'size' of the files is often different...from the size they are on the computer, to the size they are on the disk.
Why is that?
The file size is usually a few bits bigger after it's saved on the disk.
Posted by: wheatie at April 13, 2013 12:09 PM (Da0Xz)
Gnome is a UI designed for some alien species, not humans. KDE is a cardboard pimpmobile. Both are shocking resource hogs.
The Gnome fanatics probably like Emacs too. The only editor that comes with thumb screws AND a comfy chair.
Posted by: @PurpAv at April 13, 2013 12:10 PM (/gHaE)
Well, the sun has been out for awhile and it looks as though it's dried the grass enough in the backyard that I can get out and mow it.
Auf wiedersehen.
Posted by: Soona at April 13, 2013 12:10 PM (7apbu)
When you gotta charge up a laptop with a hand crank generator before using it, its appeal wanes.
TFG's next Green push will be for a solar-powered version of Windows.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at April 13, 2013 12:10 PM (+z4pE)
175 I am not ashamed to say that I have no idea what you people are talking about.
Same here, mama winger.
I'm really computer-stupid.
Posted by: wheatie at April 13, 2013 12:11 PM (Da0Xz)
Posted by: elizabethe at April 13, 2013 12:13 PM (qPCAa)
Plain text files? Somehting might be chopping off trailing carraige returns on a text file.
Non-text should go verbatim.
You could do a file compare and see where the mismatch is.
Posted by: @PurpAv at April 13, 2013 12:14 PM (/gHaE)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s] at April 13, 2013 12:14 PM (bxiXv)
My main home PC came with Vista, and it was pretty terrible. Things wouldn't work. Some graphics programs I had to minimize then maximize to get them to display properly. UAC was incredibly intrusive and made a lot of stuff harder than it should have been. Windows 7 fixed all that--I've often thought of W7 as Vista with Service Pack 1.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at April 13, 2013 12:14 PM (ZCdqA)
Posted by: linux nerd at April 13, 2013 12:14 PM (IQI2h)
Thank goodness there's nothing to navigate here. Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at April 13, 2013 03:44
This is why I'm not with the "ACE FOR CHRISSAKES UPDATE TO BLOGWONDER 8.0" crowd
Sure, this site has issues, but they don't get in the way of reading and posting
"Better the Devil Ye Know Than One You've Not Met"
Posted by: kbdabear at April 13, 2013 12:14 PM (mCvL4)
Posted by: Chuck at April 13, 2013 12:15 PM (dSkY8)
You can't use Outlook unless your ISP has IMAP servers
Guess who doesn't have IMAP yet? Comcast
Posted by: kbdabear at April 13, 2013 12:16 PM (mCvL4)
Posted by: Truman North at April 13, 2013 12:17 PM (I2LwF)
Posted by: elizabethe at April 13, 2013 12:17 PM (qPCAa)
Posted by: zsasz at April 13, 2013 12:18 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Truman North at April 13, 2013 12:18 PM (I2LwF)
Posted by: Sjg at April 13, 2013 12:19 PM (gDSJf)
Don't know nuthin' 'bout computers... but, I do know one thing.... that chick in the chess video is smokin' hot... wow.... Sheila Dines is babalicious! At first I thought I had wasted a whole hour on that stupid video.... then.... I discovered my future ex-wife. Fantastic.
Posted by: Typical Moron at April 13, 2013 12:20 PM (cbYWP)
Posted by: t-dubyah-d at April 13, 2013 12:20 PM (u6lBN)
You obviously don't want a desktop since you have to go on the run, and if you have a Windows Shutdown hangup the Zombies will go on your computer and steal all your passwords
Posted by: kbdabear at April 13, 2013 12:21 PM (mCvL4)
184 Why is that?
The file size is usually a few bits bigger after it's saved on the disk.
Plain text files? Somehting might be chopping off trailing carraige returns on a text file.
Non-text should go verbatim.
You could do a file compare and see where the mismatch is.
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Mostly plain text...but some have a few diagrams, charts.
I noticed it again, just now, when moving this years Tax Forms and IRS Instructions from the computer to disk.
It's not a huge size difference...just a few KB's on each one.
Posted by: wheatie at April 13, 2013 12:21 PM (Da0Xz)
Posted by: Truman North at April 13, 2013 12:21 PM (I2LwF)
Posted by: Eisenhorn at April 13, 2013 12:22 PM (OjQYm)
Look, it's easy. First take the framistan and reboot to your inner kernel then reconfigure your primary hdd as your secondary.
then do a hard restart and log in to the admin account and save the configuration.
Once that's done all you have to do is locate your ipconfig file and edit it for the changes you need.
Easy peasy.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at April 13, 2013 12:23 PM (Kpn/z)
What should it be about?
Posted by: elizabethe at April 13, 2013 04:13 PM (qPCAa)
Well, I'm looking to start a group for Horde 'Ettes over on Ravelry and trying to find out how much cross-over there is. I know of four, including myself. You guys know any others?
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, assault Hobbit at April 13, 2013 12:23 PM (wbeNt)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 13, 2013 12:23 PM (piMMO)
Sure, this site has issues, but they don't get in the way of reading and posting
"Better the Devil Ye Know Than One You've Not Met"
Those damned hackers we had here last year would be horsewhipped if I ever caught them. Anybody who'd steal a man's ampersands, well, he'd deserve whatever he got for punishment.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at April 13, 2013 12:23 PM (+z4pE)
If you're very careful or not adventurous than you may get by without them. I would update asap because after next year you won't be able to.
Without admitting or denying anything I state for the record that some copies of XP may be of dubious provenance.
I figure a weekly restore point set gives me an option to reset my registry if I get a virus. When my elderly aunt's home health aide was using my laptop to visit all sorts of dubious African sites, I had to turn all my PC's a week back and then everything was fine. (Except that I had to then seal off that laptop from the rest of the network)
Posted by: Oschisms at April 13, 2013 12:24 PM (pfVS8)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s] at April 13, 2013 12:24 PM (bxiXv)
P.S. For the Ravelry conversation, I knit.
Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at April 13, 2013 12:25 PM (K+I6z)
183 I am not ashamed to say that I have no idea what you people are talking about.
Posted by: mama winger at April 13, 2013 04:08 PM (P6QsQ)
me three. Maybe we can start an in-thread counter-revolution.
What should it be about?
Did anyone else see that new show...'DaVinci's Demons'...last night?
Posted by: wheatie at April 13, 2013 12:25 PM (Da0Xz)
Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at April 13, 2013 12:25 PM (WD0KF)
Posted by: kbdabear at April 13, 2013 04:21 PM (mCvL4)
Is that hang-up on shutdown common? My XP machine's been doing that almost every time for about a year. Is there a fix?
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, assault Hobbit at April 13, 2013 12:25 PM (wbeNt)
Posted by: Heironymous Fox at April 13, 2013 12:26 PM (sTS/8)
Posted by: Michael Bolton at April 13, 2013 12:26 PM (EZl54)
First, you have to have it laugh at you when you ampersand
Posted by: kbdabear at April 13, 2013 12:27 PM (mCvL4)
During this thread win8 just hung on me for over a minute.
Could be SSD garbage collection mode.
Posted by: DaveA at April 13, 2013 12:27 PM (DL2i+)
Posted by: steevy at April 13, 2013 12:27 PM (9XBK2)
HERETIC!!! APOSTASY!!!
VILE WINDOWS 8 DEMONIC ENTITY BEGONE!!!
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at April 13, 2013 12:27 PM (Kpn/z)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 13, 2013 12:28 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at April 13, 2013 04:25 PM (WD0KF)
Yep, you're one of the four I counted. Sent you a message on Twitter, but I'm guessing you haven't checked yet.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, assault Hobbit at April 13, 2013 12:28 PM (wbeNt)
I've never understood why KDE is so popular, it makes me feel like i'm using something out of a Looney Tunes cartoon.
Posted by: booger at April 13, 2013 12:28 PM (HI6wa)
Posted by: Peaches at April 13, 2013 12:28 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: steevy at April 13, 2013 12:29 PM (9XBK2)
Posted by: Truman North at April 13, 2013 12:29 PM (I2LwF)
Is that hang-up on shutdown common? My XP machine's been doing that almost every time for about a year. Is there a fix? Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, assault Hobbit at April 13, 2013 04:25 PM
It's not chronic but it's not unusual. I've found that the best fix is just to unplug the machine
Posted by: kbdabear at April 13, 2013 12:29 PM (mCvL4)
Posted by: Ed Anger at April 13, 2013 12:29 PM (tOkJB)
Posted by: elizabethe at April 13, 2013 12:30 PM (qPCAa)
I call it CUMCAST, cause they only stick the tip in and then pull out so you get splooged too.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at April 13, 2013 12:31 PM (Kpn/z)
Posted by: elizabethe at April 13, 2013 12:31 PM (qPCAa)
Posted by: Truman North at April 13, 2013 12:32 PM (I2LwF)
Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at April 13, 2013 12:32 PM (WD0KF)
Posted by: zsasz at April 13, 2013 12:32 PM (MMC8r)
No, that's Cox.
Posted by: EC at April 13, 2013 12:32 PM (doBIb)
207...Kind of hard to explain *why* that is without getting technitalk or droning on for hours.
Thanks, Mero.
That must be it...since the size-difference is larger with the larger files.
Posted by: wheatie at April 13, 2013 12:32 PM (Da0Xz)
Posted by: elizabethe at April 13, 2013 12:32 PM (qPCAa)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s] at April 13, 2013 12:33 PM (bxiXv)
Jeff Bezos is an infamous micro-manager. He micro-manages every single pixel of Amazon's retail site. He hired Larry Tesler, Apple's Chief Scientist and probably the very most famous and respected human-computer interaction expert in the entire world, and then ignored every g*ddamn thing Larry said for three years until Larry finally -- wisely -- left the company. Larry would do these big usability studies and demonstrate beyond any shred of doubt that nobody can understand that frigging website, but Bezos just couldn't let go of those pixels, all those millions of semantics-packed pixels on the landing page. They were like millions of his own precious children. So they're all still there, and Larry is not.
Posted by: T. Hunter at April 13, 2013 12:33 PM (EZl54)
Don't look at the approximations the file mangler may give in an icon view, look at a specific file size numbers from a "details" view.
What Merovign is talking about is allocation granularity for particular media...
This is something I've wanted to do a nerd post about for a while now as normal people can get some performance gains by having a bit of understanding about it.
Ex. if you got 2 drives and use one as a dedicated swap device, tweaking the NTFS allocation size when formatting it can be a big win.
Posted by: @PurpAv at April 13, 2013 12:33 PM (/gHaE)
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I don't hate it either, but I prefer XP. One of the things I have on my XP box at work is a buttload of CMD windows in various sizes to deal with various things I do. Can't do that easily in 7 because you can only have *one* link to a program in the Start menu.
Also much prefer XP Paint to Win 7 Paint. I do lots of little illustrations for my manuals in Paint. On Win 7, Paint will anti-alias text unless you disable anti-aliasing for *the whole bloody operating system*.
Posted by: Assault Citizen Anachronda at April 13, 2013 12:34 PM (U82Km)
Posted by: Truman North at April 13, 2013 12:35 PM (I2LwF)
Google launches tool to help users plan for digital afterlife
http://tinyurl.com/cewjnrg
Posted by: kbdabear at April 13, 2013 12:35 PM (mCvL4)
10.2 sucked big time. You just didn't hear about how bad until 10.3 came out.
Apple loves to decide that perfectly good hardware is obsolete. That's why they dumped support for their printer port in OS X. I could dig up more recent examples, like deciding that relatively new Power PCs would no longer be upgradable.
PC:
no support for pppoe connectiods prior to XP. Vista support for that is crappy too, although XP can handle it. We have WiMax type towers that need a connectoid if you don't have a router.
Vista has the worst wireless support. You have to delete the damn profile to change the stored wifi password. If you just change it, it doesn't take and you can't connect.
Win 8: No POP email in the mail app. More stuff buried even deeper in the OS. What the hell is that "charms" shit? Who decided that people didn't need menus any more. I spent 45 minutes Friday trying to talk a woman into configuring the mail app. She couldn't find where you set up a new account in it.
We run XP on our work computers. I really could use something that will run Win8 so I can truly learn the damn thing. But if I had it installed on a computer, I wouldn't use it. I have an old Thinkpad T25 that runs Crunch Bang Linux. Ubuntu got too bloated for it. As for iphones, I've never had a problem with an update and I'm on my second one. I always buy one generation behind on Apple products. The bugs have been worked out and you can usually get the cool accessories at a discount.
Posted by: notsothoreau at April 13, 2013 12:36 PM (Lqy/e)
Posted by: elizabethe at April 13, 2013 12:36 PM (qPCAa)
For my money, I don't know if it gets any better than when he sings "When a Man Loves a Woman".
Posted by: Bob at April 13, 2013 12:36 PM (EZl54)
Posted by: Hrothgar at April 13, 2013 12:36 PM (Cnqmv)
Posted by: elizabethe at April 13, 2013 04:36 PM (qPCAa)
Oh, snap, e-girl, that's gonna leave a mark. You okay, Tru?
Posted by: Peaches at April 13, 2013 12:37 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at April 13, 2013 12:37 PM (WD0KF)
MS's crime was in charging people for the former pile of shit.
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at April 13, 2013 12:37 PM (QTHTd)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s] at April 13, 2013 12:38 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: elizabethe at April 13, 2013 04:32 PM (qPCAa)
It's a website for those who knit or crochet.
Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at April 13, 2013 12:38 PM (K+I6z)
Its more like you put the marbles into bags that hold 1k, 2k, 4k marbles each, then chuck those fixed sized bags into the file system's box.
If you only need 2 marbles in a bag, it's still gonna take a big bag to hold them.
Posted by: @PurpAv at April 13, 2013 12:38 PM (/gHaE)
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at April 13, 2013 12:38 PM (QTHTd)
Posted by: elizabethe at April 13, 2013 12:38 PM (qPCAa)
Posted by: Truman North at April 13, 2013 12:39 PM (I2LwF)
230...no, what was it about?
'DaVinci's Demons'...it's on STARZ.
It's about Leonardo DaVinci, as a young man, just starting out in Florence.
Don't want to give away too many spoilers, but it is portraying Leonardo as a young, hawt, horny guy.
Also...brilliant and defiant against the ruling class...ambidextrous, can sword-fight with a sword in each hand.
There is skin, cuss words and lots of steampunk type stuff that the Horde would probably like.
Posted by: wheatie at April 13, 2013 12:39 PM (Da0Xz)
Posted by: DaveA at April 13, 2013 12:40 PM (DL2i+)
Do you have one of those treadmill desk setups?
I was thinking of buying/making one.
Posted by: T. Hunter at April 13, 2013 12:40 PM (EZl54)
Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at April 13, 2013 12:40 PM (WD0KF)
sings "When a Man Loves a Woman".
Posted by: Bob at April 13, 2013 04:36 PM (EZl54)
Bob, meet Percy Sledge. Percy, Bob . . . knock his socks off, willya?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQh112HQsoE
Posted by: Peaches at April 13, 2013 12:40 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: Cowboy at April 13, 2013 12:40 PM (FMrA0)
Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at April 13, 2013 04:32 PM (WD0KF)
General idea, at least to start. I'm big on having multiple points of contacts in case things go south.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, assault Hobbit at April 13, 2013 12:40 PM (wbeNt)
Posted by: lindafell at April 13, 2013 12:41 PM (PGO8C)
Posted by: elizabethe at April 13, 2013 12:41 PM (qPCAa)
Posted by: Truman North at April 13, 2013 12:41 PM (I2LwF)
Posted by: elizabethe at April 13, 2013 04:32 PM (qPCAa)
BtEG had a very good explanation.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, assault Hobbit at April 13, 2013 12:42 PM (wbeNt)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 13, 2013 12:42 PM (ZPrif)
You are on fire today, elizabethe! lmao!!!
Posted by: Peaches at April 13, 2013 12:42 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: elizabethe at April 13, 2013 12:42 PM (qPCAa)
Posted by: elizabethe at April 13, 2013 12:43 PM (qPCAa)
Posted by: Truman North at April 13, 2013 12:43 PM (I2LwF)
Posted by: The Hobo Wears Prada (Team Plover) at April 13, 2013 12:43 PM (jopHG)
Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at April 13, 2013 12:43 PM (WD0KF)
Posted by: Truman North at April 13, 2013 12:43 PM (I2LwF)
buy another damn drive.
Ps. the slow down at shutdown may be a program helper loaded for something you may not realize uses one.
I've found all kinds of helper programs that came with the front end program I loaded. These are updaters and keyloggers and net searchers. I think win media player uses one to retrieve titles from the internet. whether you happen to be using windows media player or not the helper file is loaded into memory and some of those helper files are also trackers and send info to various other places when they shut down.
that may be where the delay is. Try a safe mode startup and see how much stuff is loaded in memory. then shut down and see how much faster it is.
Only problem is that you can have a difficult time trying to keep those helpers from loading and if you succeed then when you want them you have to reboot.
It's why I hate Nazi programmers who don't want the user to have any choices about what happens and what gets loaded.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at April 13, 2013 12:43 PM (Kpn/z)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHS8LAqHyHs
Posted by: Peaches at April 13, 2013 12:44 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: NCKate at April 13, 2013 12:44 PM (J/Yaf)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s] at April 13, 2013 12:44 PM (bxiXv)
I can work with an interface change. It's the $200.00+ of security software that is mandatory for any Windows user that puts me off.
I can do without Silverlight and keep my annual "Malware Tax" dollars in my pocket.
Posted by: T. Hunter at April 13, 2013 12:44 PM (EZl54)
Posted by: elizabethe at April 13, 2013 12:45 PM (qPCAa)
Posted by: Truman North at April 13, 2013 04:43 PM (I2LwF)
That is a filthy lie, you craven Masshole. We have trained for this, here in the land of the tiny-brained, and I can assure you, it will likely be more in the billions.
Posted by: Peaches at April 13, 2013 12:45 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at April 13, 2013 12:45 PM (WD0KF)
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at April 13, 2013 12:46 PM (QTHTd)
Posted by: Truman North at April 13, 2013 12:46 PM (I2LwF)
239...Don't look at the approximations the file mangler may give in an icon view, look at a specific file size numbers from a "details" view.
Thanks, Purp.
Yeah, I did that...and the files are a tad bigger on the disk, than they were on the hard drive.
I scrolled through a few some smaller ones...ones with a couple of pages...and couldn't see any difference at all.
They are PDF's.
So it must just be a formatting thing.
Posted by: wheatie at April 13, 2013 12:46 PM (Da0Xz)
Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at April 13, 2013 04:38 PM (K+I6z)
Are you on it I lurk? I'm thinking of creating a group there.
For those 'Ettes who do other stuff besides knitting and crocheting, it's not like they check your ID and the threads in the group could be about many things.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, assault Hobbit at April 13, 2013 12:46 PM (wbeNt)
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at April 13, 2013 04:46 PM (QTHTd)
omg, you have actually been inside my head!!!
Posted by: Peaches at April 13, 2013 12:47 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: lindafell at April 13, 2013 12:47 PM (PGO8C)
YES. Its not about capacity so much as performance. You can buy more capacity, but what you can't buy is efficiency.
Posted by: @PurpAv at April 13, 2013 12:47 PM (/gHaE)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 13, 2013 12:48 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: elizabethe at April 13, 2013 04:36 PM (qPCAa)
It's always adorable when they get their wheel up to speed and then they trip or decide to stop.
/wooshwooshwoosh-plonk.=
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at April 13, 2013 12:48 PM (rm+Am)
Posted by: elizabethe at April 13, 2013 12:48 PM (qPCAa)
Posted by: @PurpAv at April 13, 2013 12:48 PM (/gHaE)
Vista sucks.. it just plain sucks. Win 7 is ok if you turn off UAC. BTW - you cannot fully turn off UAC in Win 8! Surprise!
I'm still using XP mostly at work for development, with virtual machines of various varieties for testing, etc.
My current home machine is Win 8, and with the "Classic Shell" add-on that gives you a start button and boots to the desktop, I just love it. Fast and stable.
BTW - "Classic Shell" can also be installed on Win 7 and you can get the look and feel of XP in explorer, etc. Nice.. and FREE!
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at April 13, 2013 12:48 PM (UTq/I)
Posted by: NotsothoreauI at April 13, 2013 04:44 PM (Lqy/e)
Is this your nic there? If so I'll go add you to my friends list.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, assault Hobbit at April 13, 2013 12:49 PM (wbeNt)
Posted by: Truman North at April 13, 2013 12:50 PM (I2LwF)
Posted by: soothsayer at April 13, 2013 12:50 PM (uaJ2E)
Posted by: NotsothoreauI at April 13, 2013 12:50 PM (Lqy/e)
Posted by: elizabethe at April 13, 2013 12:51 PM (qPCAa)
Oddly, I do know how to knit, albeit only in a straight line and strictly knit and purl, but one year I bought remnants from a swanky knit shop and make fabulous scarves for everyone. I store my knitting needles over there with the drumsticks. Fuckin' hopeless, that's me.
Posted by: Peaches at April 13, 2013 12:51 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: Truman North at April 13, 2013 12:51 PM (I2LwF)
elizabethe, I tried the knitting thing too. I suck at it but I keep my knitting needles around to travel with on airplanes. TSA allows them. Go figure.
They're not afraid you'll knit an Afghan?
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at April 13, 2013 12:52 PM (+z4pE)
Posted by: elizabethe at April 13, 2013 04:48 PM (qPCAa)
I've always thought that a nice 29" circular would do wonders as a garrote. Could be used as a short-term tourniquit (sp?) as well.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, assault Hobbit at April 13, 2013 12:52 PM (wbeNt)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 13, 2013 12:52 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at April 13, 2013 12:52 PM (WD0KF)
Posted by: elizabethe at April 13, 2013 12:52 PM (qPCAa)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at April 13, 2013 04:52 PM (+z4pE)
threadwinner!!!!
Posted by: Peaches at April 13, 2013 12:52 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: Cowboy at April 13, 2013 12:53 PM (FMrA0)
Posted by: NotsothoreauI at April 13, 2013 12:53 PM (Lqy/e)
I know how to knit...but it's kinda boring.
Sewing is more fun, and goes faster.
But I don't have a decent sewing machine now...and don't know what Brand of machine is good, really.
I have two Singer machines that I would like to take outside and set fire to.
Singer has gone to hell.
I learned on an old antique Singer machine...which didn't have all the whistles and bells that the new machines have.
Posted by: wheatie at April 13, 2013 12:54 PM (Da0Xz)
They can vicariously imagine themselves beating up some guy they hate all the while they're watching make believe.
It's why they started those white house dramas when bush was in office.
Anything to distort, obfuscate, fog the reality of the falsities in their life.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at April 13, 2013 12:54 PM (Kpn/z)
be honest with you, I love his music. I do. I'm a Michael Bolton
fan.
Posted by: Bob at April 13, 2013 04:50 PM (EZl54)
The whole point of music is for you to love it. I'm not big on MB, Bob, but you have just hauled my day out of the crapper because now I'm over on teh youtube listening to old soul music. slainte!!
Posted by: Peaches at April 13, 2013 12:54 PM (8lmkt)
Knitting is very relaxing for me. One of my mottoes is: I Knit So I Don't Kill People. I was allowed to knit at the mental hospital in the common area.
Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at April 13, 2013 12:54 PM (WD0KF)
Posted by: Peaches at April 13, 2013 04:51 PM (8lmkt)
Lol. Knit and purl means you've got the basics, just need the details. If we ever get to meet IRL, and you're interested, I'll teach you the other two parts.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, assault Hobbit at April 13, 2013 12:56 PM (wbeNt)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 13, 2013 12:56 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s] at April 13, 2013 12:57 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Notsothoreau at April 13, 2013 12:57 PM (Lqy/e)
http://tinyurl.com/c4wknb9
Posted by: Craig Poe at April 13, 2013 12:57 PM (BVkEs)
Polli, any suggestions on what to call it that wouldn't scare people off?Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at April 13, 2013 12:57 PM (WD0KF)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at April 13, 2013 04:52 PM (+z4pE)
*bows to the master*
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, assault Hobbit at April 13, 2013 12:58 PM (wbeNt)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 13, 2013 12:58 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s] at April 13, 2013 12:59 PM (bxiXv)
Knitting will be a good skill to have...during the Burning Times.
But making yarn is the hard part.
I don't know how to convert raw fibers to yarn.
It's a lost art.
Every time I brush off a bucket full of loose fur, off of my big furry dog...I look at all that wooly-looking soft fur and think..."That would make some excellent yarn".
But I don't know how to spin it into yarn.
Posted by: wheatie at April 13, 2013 12:59 PM (Da0Xz)
Posted by: Notsothoreau at April 13, 2013 12:59 PM (Lqy/e)
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at April 13, 2013 12:59 PM (4fBqP)
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, assault Hobbit at April 13, 2013 04:56 PM (wbeNt)
Polli, you are the darlin'-est girl ever, and I do so hope to meet you IRL someday.
Posted by: Peaches at April 13, 2013 01:00 PM (8lmkt)
I've probably signed up for it at some point!
Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at April 13, 2013 01:00 PM (K+I6z)
Posted by: None at April 13, 2013 01:00 PM (j8JLb)
Posted by: NotsothoreauI at April 13, 2013 04:53 PM (Lqy/e)
I'm Knit'nKitten over there.
Posted by: wheatie at April 13, 2013 04:54 PM (Da0Xz)
So come join Ravelery and talk sewing with BtEG and elizabethe.
Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at April 13, 2013 04:54 PM (WD0KF)
I know exactly what you mean . People would ask me how I found time to knit with four kids around. I would assure them that the kids were *much* safer if I made time to knit.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, assault Hobbit at April 13, 2013 01:01 PM (wbeNt)
But I don't know how to spin it into yarn.
Posted by: wheatie at April 13, 2013 04:59 PM (Da0Xz)
Look around. There are people who will do that for you. Seriously.
Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at April 13, 2013 01:01 PM (K+I6z)
Posted by: elizabethe at April 13, 2013 01:01 PM (qPCAa)
Posted by: Notsothoreau at April 13, 2013 01:01 PM (Lqy/e)
Polli, Mr. BTEG pointed out that he could use a power cord for a laptop as a garrote. Yet they let you bring them on planes.
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One great marketing idea I have is a computer power cord that doubles as a catheter for those long flights where you find yourself in the middle or window seat.
Posted by: Soona at April 13, 2013 01:02 PM (7apbu)
Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at April 13, 2013 01:02 PM (K+I6z)
Posted by: elizabethe at April 13, 2013 01:02 PM (qPCAa)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s] at April 13, 2013 01:03 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at April 13, 2013 04:57 PM (WD0KF)
Not scare people off? But we're 'Ettes! We're exclusive!
I was thinking something like "Ettes of the Moron Horde would be self evident to those in the know.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, assault Hobbit at April 13, 2013 01:03 PM (wbeNt)
Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at April 13, 2013 01:03 PM (WD0KF)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 13, 2013 01:04 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: elizabethe at April 13, 2013 01:04 PM (qPCAa)
If you're careful about what links you click into and use a decent browser your security risks fall further.
top it off with a no tracker addon and a cookie monitor (cost $o) you're almost all the way there.
Setup your router firewall properly and don't open attachments in unknown sender emails and that pretty much covers you.
Now that's with all the updates to security that have already happened. And granted there's been a lot. but you don't hear about too many these days do you.
Plus even mac gets hacked. The big target these days is smartphones.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at April 13, 2013 01:05 PM (Kpn/z)
Posted by: Notsothoreau at April 13, 2013 01:05 PM (Lqy/e)
Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at April 13, 2013 01:05 PM (WD0KF)
Posted by: wheatie at April 13, 2013 04:59 PM (Da0Xz)
Oh! Oh! Oh! What kind of puppy doggy! Well, the *furry* kind is all that really matters come to think of it. *I* spin. Since I was poor as a kid Great Pyrenees from our dog was one of my main fibers. I've made my mom hats and scarves from a couple of her (living) dogs as well.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, assault Hobbit at April 13, 2013 01:06 PM (wbeNt)
338...Posted by: Notsothoreau at April 13, 2013 05:01 PM (Lqy/e)
Thanks. Wow, I never would've thought to look on Youtube.
Spinning and weaving...two good skills to have, I think.
We're gonna need a way to replace our clothing, when everything goes to hell.
Posted by: wheatie at April 13, 2013 01:06 PM (Da0Xz)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 13, 2013 01:07 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Eaton Cox at April 13, 2013 01:07 PM (q177U)
Posted by: elizabethe at April 13, 2013 05:02 PM (qPCAa)
I'm Knit'nKitten there Elizabethe. It's my DBA name and I hadn't started my political blog when I joined so the Polliwog didn't exist yet.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, assault Hobbit at April 13, 2013 01:07 PM (wbeNt)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 13, 2013 01:08 PM (ZPrif)
History, actually.
Yes, I know Microsoft Security Essentials came out after I moved to Linux.
After years of updating McAfeeNorton bloatware which rendered the OS almost unusable, and attempting to use pretty good Eatern Euro "free"ware as a replacement , Microsoft came out with MSE which (almost) protects it's OS. Most of the time.
For my personal usage, it was too little, too late.
Posted by: T. Hunter at April 13, 2013 01:09 PM (EZl54)
Posted by: Notsothoreau at April 13, 2013 05:01 PM (Lqy/e)
Come to think of it, I think you mentioned that you spun and I'd just forgotten.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, assault Hobbit at April 13, 2013 01:10 PM (wbeNt)
Apparently, yes.
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows-8/system-requirements
Posted by: @PurpAv at April 13, 2013 01:10 PM (/gHaE)
352 Posted by: wheatie at April 13, 2013 04:59 PM (Da0Xz)
Oh! Oh! Oh! What kind of puppy doggy! Well, the *furry* kind is all that really matters come to think of it. *I* spin. Since I was poor as a kid Great Pyrenees from our dog was one of my main fibers. I've made my mom hats and scarves from a couple of her (living) dogs as well.
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He's a mix...Sheppard/Tibetan Mastiff...and has a thick, wooly undercoat.
Weights about 120 lbs.
Color is black/tan/white.
I'm going to start saving his fur now, and learn how to spin it into yarn!
Posted by: wheatie at April 13, 2013 01:10 PM (Da0Xz)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 13, 2013 01:11 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: and irresolute at April 13, 2013 01:11 PM (DBH1h)
Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at April 13, 2013 05:05 PM (WD0KF)
I figured the group as a whole would be designed for 'Ettes and then there could be sewing, cooking, teaching, etc. threads for multiple discussion possibilities.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, assault Hobbit at April 13, 2013 01:11 PM (wbeNt)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 13, 2013 01:13 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at April 13, 2013 01:13 PM (WD0KF)
I'm going to start saving his fur now, and learn how to spin it into yarn!
This thread has taken a detour....a detour into the Twilight Zone.
Posted by: Rod Serling at April 13, 2013 01:13 PM (0IhFx)
Linux has been a perfect fit for me and my mine for our basic information management needs for several years. YMMV
That could change so I am glad to hear the MS has progressed in that area.
Their new security-model is suspiciously Linux-like BTW. ; )
Posted by: T. Hunter at April 13, 2013 01:14 PM (EZl54)
Posted by: wheatie at April 13, 2013 05:10 PM (Da0Xz)
Yes, do. Notsothoreau is correct that a drop spindle is the simplest place to start. there should even be patterns available on the internet for ones made from CDs. I've had my wheel for over 20 years now, but used a spindle for several years before (and occassionally even now, just to keep my hand in).
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, assault Hobbit at April 13, 2013 01:14 PM (wbeNt)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 13, 2013 05:08 PM (ZPrif)
The most bad-ass Mexican has nothing on the Samoans. I love Samoans. Big bastids and, if they're on your side, you're golden.
Posted by: Peaches at April 13, 2013 01:14 PM (8lmkt)
Yes, I know Microsoft Security Essentials came out after I moved to Linux.
After years of updating McAfeeNorton bloatware which rendered the OS almost unusable, and attempting to use pretty good Eatern Euro "free"ware as a replacement , Microsoft came out with MSE which (almost) protects it's OS. Most of the time.
For my personal usage, it was too little, too late.
I have MSE on this Win7 machine. It didn't stop or catch that Java Exploit virus that was floating around a few months ago. I've had a bunch of viruses on this machine in the three years I've had it.
I did sign up for MADS when I had to reinstall Word when my HD crashed back before the Holidays. Haven't had as many attacks since.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at April 13, 2013 01:14 PM (+z4pE)
Note to testers -- substituting a hyperthread CPU for a real multi-CPU system when it comes to checking for semaphore bugs DOES NOT WORK.
Posted by: @PurpAv at April 13, 2013 01:14 PM (/gHaE)
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On an obsolete blackberry, try 'F' enter 'munu' enter
This locates to the bottom of the comment box.
Then, little scroll up a little.
Posted by: Coffee Bitch at April 13, 2013 01:14 PM (VMcEw)
Posted by: Rod Serling at April 13, 2013 05:13 PM (0IhFx)
I would like to point out that fair warning was give as to there being an attempted thread-jack.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, assault Hobbit at April 13, 2013 01:15 PM (wbeNt)
Posted by: sTevo at April 13, 2013 01:16 PM (VMcEw)
Posted by: Soona at April 13, 2013 01:16 PM (7apbu)
Not likely. TPB is full of precracked XP ISO's that are validated during install.
For while MS was trying to beat them changes in the various updates, but I don't htink they even bother anymore.
Those guys are not a market you'll ever sell legit product into anyway
Posted by: @PurpAv at April 13, 2013 01:18 PM (/gHaE)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 13, 2013 01:18 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 13, 2013 01:20 PM (ZPrif)
And a tremendous sense of loyalty and family. Don't ask me how I know.
Posted by: Peaches at April 13, 2013 01:20 PM (8lmkt)
374 Posted by: Rod Serling at April 13, 2013 05:13 PM (0IhFx)
I would like to point out that fair warning was given as to there being an attempted thread-jack.
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Yeah. Sewing nerds are nerds, too. ...And this is a nerd thread, so...
Posted by: wheatie at April 13, 2013 01:22 PM (Da0Xz)
Posted by: @PurpAv at April 13, 2013 05:18 PM (/gHaE)
I am excited that the no-more-updates will expose the thieving pirated copy users to a host of punishing consequences. Just a hope.
Posted by: and irresolute at April 13, 2013 01:22 PM (DBH1h)
I have a question and figure this is the perfect thread to get the answer.
I am about to listen to Brainwave Entrainment mp3s which I've used before and were very beneficial. These are actual mp3s on the computer and I'd like to transfer them to a CD so I can listen on a CD player.
The manual has a caveat "Interfering with the frequencies in the audio" - Playing around with the frequencies in the audio is going to impair your progress. The file must be listened to in the format given, and any conversions must ensure that the correct bitrate and sample frequencies are maintained.
Question: Burning the mp3 to a CD won't interfere with any of the frequencies in the audio, right? I'm not changing the file, I'm just burning it to a CD.
Thanks so much!
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at April 13, 2013 01:23 PM (AC0lD)
Hey Purp, I have a question for you: I almost got an AS in CompSci about 13 years ago. Majored in Visual Basic and minored in HTML. I understand that virtually everything I learned back then is obsolete today.
I might be able to qualify for some financial aid. If I were to go back to school for an Assoc degree, would VB still be a good choice in the market today?
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at April 13, 2013 01:23 PM (+z4pE)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at April 13, 2013 01:25 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: soothsayer at April 13, 2013 01:25 PM (E1X66)
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at April 13, 2013 05:23 PM (AC0lD)
Correct, proceed.
Posted by: and irresolute at April 13, 2013 05:25 PM (DBH1h)
Thanks so much. I needed that reassurance.
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at April 13, 2013 01:26 PM (AC0lD)
What's that mean?
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at April 13, 2013 01:26 PM (Kpn/z)
Posted by: wheatie at April 13, 2013 05:22 PM (Da0Xz)
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I had a girlfriend that could sew and crochet. She could also fuck my brains out, so there's that too.
Posted by: Grog at April 13, 2013 01:26 PM (7apbu)
Posted by: Peaches at April 13, 2013 01:29 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 13, 2013 01:30 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: soothsayer at April 13, 2013 01:31 PM (E7Qlq)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at April 13, 2013 01:31 PM (bxiXv)
Drivers, Office, Auto Cad, 3DS Max, audio and video editors, programming languages, about 15,000 project images all alive and well. SSD and main disk drive now backed up in two locations. I feel like I have given birth.
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Microsoft wants to force people into apps, so they can get their cut. They tried taking the ability to write desktop programs out of the free .NET development tools until the developer community pretty much threatened to walk. They made the Office 2013 license for one non-transferable PC, until they relented on that. 1.5 stars out of dozens of reviews on Amazon may have sunk into their heads that their customers were giving the "nudge" a hearty "screw you."
God has not given us the spirit of fear, but of power, love and a sound mind. This also implies that there are people that are not of a sound mind. Some of these folks are programmers (and some are politicians)
When you use a piece of software, your mind has to track along the same lines as the person who wrote the software. When software really irritates the heck out of you, it probably is not your fault!
I have read hundreds of blog entries where people argue with a MS product manager over how obnoxious the choice of three color schemes are in Office 2013. 1) they only reluctantly care and 2) it is probably so things would look better on a tablet using SkyDrive --which they also want to shove in your face until you buy an Office 360 subscription.
So when people are pissing down my neck and telling me it is the glorious future, I have a problem with that, whether it is politics or software.
Posted by: AE at April 13, 2013 01:31 PM (HYceo)
Posted by: Peaches at April 13, 2013 01:32 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 13, 2013 01:33 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Chris M at April 13, 2013 01:33 PM (4lyMJ)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at April 13, 2013 01:35 PM (bxiXv)
Wrestling Mexicans
Spinning Dog Hair
Pygmie Neanderthals
One of these things is not like the other. Oh wait. All of these things are not like the other.
Posted by: mama winger at April 13, 2013 01:36 PM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 13, 2013 01:36 PM (ZPrif)
Not obsolete, just evolved a bit and the development environments/debugging is vastly improved. VB is still marketable.
Download Visual Studio 2010 Express and start playing. Its free.
Posted by: @PurpAv at April 13, 2013 01:36 PM (/gHaE)
Posted by: Whatev at April 13, 2013 01:39 PM (A7Wh1)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 13, 2013 01:40 PM (ZPrif)
I don't.
It seemed like you were saying that surfing porn and consequent malware/security risk was a reason for opting out of Microsoft.
I was just saying ( in my own unique awkward fumblefingered way) that I am not a porn surfer ( hot wife!) but I do like the ability to click on on attachments and allow scripts without constant fear of a nasty hitchhiking payload.
And I believe in the right tool for the job. MS is one. Linux is another. No religious affiliation implied.
Posted by: T. Hunter at April 13, 2013 01:40 PM (EZl54)
Download Visual Studio 2010 Express and start playing. Its free.
Will do. I still have all my old textbooks and notes on VB, which should verify my Nerd Card credentials.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at April 13, 2013 01:41 PM (+z4pE)
A huge amount of UI usability/color scheme work was done 20 years ago for OS/2 Warp
Human eyes haven't evolved much since then...
When someone deviates from that work 20 years ago, its usually for the worse.
Posted by: @PurpAv at April 13, 2013 01:42 PM (/gHaE)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at April 13, 2013 01:43 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 13, 2013 01:44 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: awkward davies at April 13, 2013 01:44 PM (USjX1)
Posted by: @PurpAv at April 13, 2013 01:45 PM (/gHaE)
Posted by: PaleRider at April 13, 2013 01:45 PM (5CusZ)
Posted by: irright at April 13, 2013 01:45 PM (DtNNC)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 13, 2013 01:46 PM (3IrSf)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 13, 2013 05:36 PM (ZPrif)
He loved her. Probably still does. When those bad-asses fall in love, it's forever. Again, don't ask me how I know.
Posted by: Peaches at April 13, 2013 01:46 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at April 13, 2013 01:47 PM (K+I6z)
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Me, not so much.
Posted by: mama winger at April 13, 2013 05:45 PM (P6QsQ)
Me, not at all. He's a big fat cheater. Again. They should have bounced his ass outta there.
Posted by: Peaches at April 13, 2013 01:47 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: Peaches at April 13, 2013 05:47 PM (8lmkt)
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Agree on both counts.
Posted by: mama winger at April 13, 2013 01:48 PM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: mama winger at April 13, 2013 01:49 PM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: Peaches at April 13, 2013 01:50 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: mama winger at April 13, 2013 01:52 PM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 13, 2013 01:52 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Alex at April 13, 2013 01:53 PM (aPAIU)
Posted by: μολὼν λαβέ at April 13, 2013 01:54 PM (JTCRy)
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, assault Hobbit at April 13, 2013 05:06 PM (wbeNt)
Now, where did I read that it's a horrible idea to knit things out of cat fur? Something about it stinking to high heavens when it got wet ...
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at April 13, 2013 01:54 PM (rm+Am)
Posted by: Peaches at April 13, 2013 01:54 PM (8lmkt)
I don't feel bad for Tiger. Sorry.
Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at April 13, 2013 05:47 PM (K+I6z)
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Perhaps I'd feel bad for Tiger if I really cared one way or the other.
Posted by: Soona at April 13, 2013 01:54 PM (7apbu)
Other than that...yeah, works great...but I'm not into gaming or anything, so it's not like I push it to the limit or anything.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at April 13, 2013 01:55 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: Alex at April 13, 2013 01:55 PM (aPAIU)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 13, 2013 05:52 PM (ZPrif)
The one where he dropped the ball and falsified his card? 
Posted by: Peaches at April 13, 2013 01:55 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 13, 2013 01:57 PM (3IrSf)
Posted by: Alex at April 13, 2013 01:57 PM (aPAIU)
Posted by: PaleRider at April 13, 2013 01:58 PM (5CusZ)
Posted by: The Hobo Wears Prada (Team Plover) at April 13, 2013 01:59 PM (jopHG)
Currently, under the story that is now trending on the Washington Post, the libs are busy trying to bury any conservative comment that is anti-abortion. Surprising, huh?
Anyway, I spent an hour or two batting around libs and ran two off. I mocked them outrageously for using their cut and paste names as responses (examples: Westboro, American Taliban, etc). It is easy to spot these stupidos who hide in their Mama's basements and swarm, tag-team style, to conservative comments. It is almost like they work in shifts (from their names and my anthropology study for two afternoons). I mocked them, repeatedly, and they fled. I even invoked the great blog, Ace of Spades, when one kept calling conservatives "morons." I told him that was a badge of honor on this blog.
So, anyway, the point of this news bulletin is this: if you ever feel like batting around a libtard, go to WaPo, register with bogus information, and do what you do here best: mock. It is sort of cathartic.
Now, back to your regularly scheduled moron stuff. Love you.
Posted by: ChristyBlinky at April 13, 2013 01:59 PM (baL2B)
The wall wart with my v1 Kindle Fire had a pretty flimsy wire leading to the mini-USB jack, but the $7 cable for syncing/charging fromn py PC's USB port was remarkable sturdy.
When I upgraded to a FireHD, it wasn't worth the effort to sell the v1, so I gave it to a small child whose parents curse me daily. (A constant flood of "Buy me this book or movie, mommy?")
The internal storage on the older models is minimal, but it's easy to keep your device groomed. Anything you bought from Amazon can be re-downloaded free forever and anything you sideloaded from your PC can be easily backed up to DVD-ROM.
Posted by: Little Miss Spellcheck at April 13, 2013 02:00 PM (a5ljo)
Posted by: Alex at April 13, 2013 02:00 PM (aPAIU)
Does anyone know if its a PITA to set up a 2nd hand kindle or no problem? My dad has expressed interest in getting a kindle, apparently the pawn shop has a stack of them. I'm a bit leery that it would be a time sink and the new ones from Amazon are pretty cheap too. But perhaps I'm being paranoid.
I think a basic kindle is under 80 bucks right now, brand new. I think I'd go that route first, and probably go with one of their new backlit 'paper white' models.
It's supposed to be fairly easy to unlink a used kindle from a specific user...but I've never tried it....though, if I were to buy one used, I'd read anything interesting on the device, before I attempted to reset it.
Posted by: Rod Serling at April 13, 2013 02:00 PM (0IhFx)
Posted by: Alex at April 13, 2013 02:01 PM (aPAIU)
In the Kermit Gosnell case, conservative watchdogs rattle the mainstream mediaÂ’s cage
Sic 'em, Morons and 'Ettes if you have the time. Swarm.
Posted by: ChristyBlinky at April 13, 2013 02:01 PM (baL2B)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 13, 2013 02:02 PM (rYImi)
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Posted by: Peaches at April 13, 2013 02:03 PM (8lmkt)
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Posted by: Truman North at April 13, 2013 02:05 PM (I2LwF)
Posted by: Alex at April 13, 2013 06:05 PM (aPAIU)
Go fuck yaself, Chris.
Posted by: Fox at April 13, 2013 02:05 PM (8lmkt)
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Posted by: @PurpAv at April 13, 2013 02:06 PM (/gHaE)
Posted by: Lincolntf at April 13, 2013 02:07 PM (ZshNr)
Posted by: @PurpAv at April 13, 2013 06:06 PM (/gHaE)
That would be truly godlike of you, master.
Posted by: Peaches at April 13, 2013 02:07 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 13, 2013 02:08 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Lincolntf at April 13, 2013 02:10 PM (ZshNr)
Posted by: Alex at April 13, 2013 02:11 PM (aPAIU)
Today in 1943 the Germans announced the Katyn Forest massacre of Polish military POWs by the NKVD.
Also today, one of the last three survivors of The Great Escape died. Les Broderick was next to last out of the tunnel before the Germans found it. Unlike 50 of his comrades, he was returned to the POW camp. Those 50 were murdered by the SS at the orders of the Fuhrer.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 13, 2013 02:11 PM (rYImi)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 13, 2013 02:13 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Fritz at April 13, 2013 02:15 PM (WM+rJ)
Posted by: @PurpAv at April 13, 2013 06:06 PM (/gHaE)
were you just fuckin' with us, buddy? not nice, not nice at all . . .
Posted by: Peaches at April 13, 2013 02:16 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 13, 2013 02:16 PM (rYImi)
Posted by: Lincolntf at April 13, 2013 02:18 PM (ZshNr)
That's about 430 miles from me.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at April 13, 2013 02:18 PM (bxiXv)
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Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at April 13, 2013 02:20 PM (bxiXv)
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Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 13, 2013 06:20 PM (bxiXv)
Boobehs?
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at April 13, 2013 02:23 PM (rm+Am)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at April 13, 2013 02:24 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Fritz
It's a way of dealing with the fact that they are so insecure with their ability to operate machines. Deflection, I believe it's called.
It gets funnier when they complain about something not working.
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at April 13, 2013 02:26 PM (5Hl3g)
The search in Vista worked just fine. It was configured by default to search the areas where users are supposed to store stuff. By limiting indexing to those areas it reduced overhead.
Changing the configuration to include more areas in the index, up to the entire volume, was a trivial control panel operation.
Posted by: epobirs at April 13, 2013 02:31 PM (kcfmt)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at April 13, 2013 02:32 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at April 13, 2013 05:54 PM (rm+Am)
Gotta wash the yarn after spinning. Otherwise get "eau de tunabreath" from the cat grooming itself.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, assault Hobbit at April 13, 2013 02:33 PM (wbeNt)
I really need to wander through the Thrift Stores again. I got all but 1 of my IBM PS/2 computers at thrift stores.
179The Gnome fanatics went ready to declare jihad over Ubuntu's dropping Gnome in favor of the Unity interface.
Gnome is a UI designed for some alien species, not humans. KDE is a cardboard pimpmobile. Both are shocking resource hogs.
The Gnome fanatics probably like Emacs too. The only editor that comes with thumb screws AND a comfy chair.
Which is the main reason why I never went to Linux. The UI just sucked when I was playing around with RedHat 9/10, so I pretty much gave up on it.
Windows is playing the Star Trek Movie game. Every other OS out of Redmond sucks. If you start with Windows 3.1/WFW3.11, and progress through to W8, the odd releases work, and the even releases suck.
3.1=good; 95=bad; etc. W2k was the only one that bucked that trend, but it was a transition from NT4/98 into a unified OS package that could function in standalone, peer-to-peer networks, or client-server networks. W2k ran great, but XP was so much better.
I still run XP on my laptops, and Server2k3 on most of my server farm. At work, we MUST use XP for one of our critical software packages, because it and W7 refuse to play nicely, even in "XP compatibility mode".
Posted by: Smokey Behr at April 13, 2013 02:37 PM (QyeW7)
I know this thread is pretty stale, but I want to say thanks for mentioning Start8. I looked it up and downloaded it when I saw your comment, and I love it already.
Posted by: blue star at April 13, 2013 02:37 PM (rmdRH)
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, assault Hobbit at April 13, 2013 06:33 PM (wbeNt)
Ah, so just a matter of preparation, and not anything innate to cat hair.
How long does a thread have to be to be spinnable?
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at April 13, 2013 02:41 PM (rm+Am)
The things you describe here and elsewhere suggest you got a mangled Registry. I'd look into repairing that. You may find a lot of stuff that refuses to use the setting you select stop that behavior.
Mangling the Registry was a big problem with third party apps on XP. One of the primary reasons existing software stopped working on Vista was that Microsoft took what had previously be recommendations going back to Win2K and made them enforced laws within the OS. Intuit was a big offender there. They would use the Registry as a means to let their own third party developers link stuff into QuickBooks, like industry specific packages.
This was a big problem as the Registry was intended to be a location that gets written to rarely and read often. There were similar reasons for having Program Files and Program Data where XP only had Program Files. The idea is that if an app completely loses it while writing data it doesn't kill the whole install. In a properly designed app you should be able to completely erase the folder in Program Data and it will only cause the customs settings and such to be lost and the folder recreated by the app when it runs next.
This was a long existing structure in systems like Unix that always had to be designed with multi-user environments in mind, meaning the individual users could only write to an area set aside for them. Coming from the anything goes personal computer world, Windows lacked any way to create any genuine enforced limits on the user. NT had the infrastructure but it went largely unused for over a decade due to the worry over alienating users. The more time went by the harder it became to implement these longstanding CS practices without breaking a lot of stuff.
So, a lot of complaints about Vista were from things that should have been there from the beginning if you wanted to have a serious OS that protected itself from Stupid User Tricks. If something like OS X had existed in 1995 and had a sane company behind it, Windows would have faded away.
And Microsoft would have been good with it. They tried to get out of the OS business for many years. They thought OS/2 was going to be the OS that made the micro industry ready for prime time but it couldn't happen because IBM was at war with itself, with personnel doing things to undermine the OS/2 effort that would have gotten them fired at Microsoft.
Posted by: epobirs at April 13, 2013 02:53 PM (kcfmt)
Posted by: ChristyBlinky at April 13, 2013 02:57 PM (baL2B)
Some people hated the animated characters but I've lost count of the number of times I've brought a repaired machine back to a user and stayed to make sure everything was working for them, to find the #1 complaint was that the dog or cat in Office was gone and they didn't remember how they got it in the first place.
This was usually with a machine that was handed to me in a completely inoperable state, so I couldn't be aware of what custom choices to restore.
The research was right but didn't factor for how reacted adversely among the power users who drove opinion. The users who liked the animated characters LOVED them. The real problem was implementation. The help system wasn't versatile enough to handle the range of personalities it would encounter, such as thus who bristle at the most subtle offering of a suggestion, never mind an in your face cartoon character.
This kind of issue is coming up again in Windows 8.
Posted by: epobirs at April 13, 2013 03:01 PM (kcfmt)
Posted by: epobirs at April 13, 2013 06:53 PM (kcfmt)
So Win 8 is MS's attempt to get out of the OS business? = P
Posted by: Gaylord Focker at April 13, 2013 03:03 PM (rm+Am)
Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie ® at April 13, 2013 03:17 PM (1hM1d)
Almost fifteen years ago, I did some design work for an outfit that was attempting to produce a handheld computer something like a tablet, and it ran Windows CE. When the iPad first came out and I got the chance to play around with it, I finally understood why the tablets didn't catch on the first time - Windows CE.
With Windows 8, what exactly is Microsoft trying to achieve, some sort of hybrid desktop/tablet OS?
Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at April 13, 2013 03:22 PM (fdkkW)
Different file systems can have different requirements at the lower levels.
Say the lowest level sector is 1024 bytes. Each sector has a certain amount of those bytes set aside for various functions like labeling the sector and pointing to the next sector that comprises the file. So the same file on two different file systems (NTFS for the hard drive and probably UDF for the DVD) can report a different size for the exact same file. (Way back in the 80s, it was a touted feature of the Amiga's file system that each sector pointed to both the previous sector in the file and the next sector in the file. This made it a lot easier to recover data if a disk were damaged. But that also meant that there was a slightly greater portion of each sector given over to stuff besides the user data.)
Depending on how detailed the display of files is set, the difference may not be obvious for a small file. For a big file, like a good sized chunk of video, it's going to be more obvious. You can also run into a situation where the OS uses one format and an app uses another, making it hard to tell if they agree on the file size.
Posted by: epobirs at April 13, 2013 03:41 PM (kcfmt)
No, it's their attempt to have a unified approach that cover all of the market segments. Which sounds great in concept but has issues in execution. It is a core decision whether you're going to have multiple OSes with a shared base (Apple) or try to make a single system that is versatile enough to be usable in a variety of environments, which is what Microsoft sought.
A lot of this is driven by a company's motivators. Apple is nearly non-existent in the big business market, so it didn't matter to them if users had a completely different UI on a portable device than on their desktop computer. Meanwhile, business users are huge piece of Microsoft's market and a tablet with a Microsoft OS has to require little or no training for a cubicle drone to start using it as an alternative to their PC.
Microsoft had already been down the road of trying to make the desktop usable on handheld devices. Pen and touch input had been in Windows in increasing amounts since the 3.11 days, and WinCE attempted to bring a familiar Windows desktop to much smaller devices. None of it produced any serious numbers. The most successful WinCE devices were such that you might never know it was running WinCE if you didn't catch the copyright notices at the right moment. (A lot of GPS devices are still WinCE, for example.)
I don't have a problem with Windows 8. It's running on bother my newer desktop and laptop. But that doesn't mean I cannot think of a lot of ways to improve on it. These have been widely discussed and hopefully some of them will come up in the Blue release.
To me it's sadly funny that so many people have freaked out over the change from the Start menu to the Start screen. I have Win7 and Win8 desktops on a KVM switch and have no difficulty moving between them. I find it far more jarring when I have to switch between Windows and Mac, mainly because I've never liked the 'One menu bar to rule them all' approach of the Finder. But it doesn't stop me in my tracks as some claim with Win8. What is really sad is I can remember how people reacted to the Start menu when it first appeared in Windows 95. Some people hated it with an intense passion and continued to use the old Program Manager and even altered their systems to run it automatically. (Just type PROGMAN at the Run command.)
Not because it was better. It wasn't by any sane measure. But it was what they knew and they couldn't bear to change. I cannot imagine living like that. I don't embrace change for change's sake but I don't shy away from it either.
Posted by: epobirs at April 13, 2013 04:00 PM (kcfmt)
It didn't matter what the OS was back then. The hardware was nowhere near good enough to produce a device that would appeal to the mainstream. THere were a lot of externalities that had to come together as well to make such devices attractive to a large audience, such as widespread fast wireless data connections.
If you had iOS on what could be offered for hardware in 1998, it would have still been a massive failure, just with compliments for having the right idea on the OS side. This is essentially what happened with the Apple Newton.
Posted by: epobirs at April 13, 2013 04:05 PM (kcfmt)
7 has this wonderful thing where it starts up pretty fast. With Vista I could turn it on, go downstairs and turn the coffee on, go and shower, shave, get dressed, get coffee....
And Vista still was not done starting up.
There are some things that the software boys really need to learn. Such as the consumer really wants the obvious stuff (starts up, doesn't collapse, etc.) and can go hang all of the nice little things that are far under-surface to most residential use.
Understand...a lot of people use this to send funny pictures of cats. Now, work from there.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Pirate Scum of Umbar at April 13, 2013 04:15 PM (gmoEG)
You mentioned you are going to do some Windows Phone development. Got news for ya sport, if you want to develop for WP8 - You HAVE to run Win8 to run the tools to developer unlock and deploy apps to the phone. Vista or Win7 is fine for developing WP7 apps. They run fine on WP8 but again, how ya gonna get 'em on the phone?
Just bite the bullet and go out and spend a couple of bills on a nice 256mb SSD and make it the Win8 drive. Boot up in Win8 when you have too.
Me, I personally like Win8 but hate how it's so halfway there. Either kill the desktop of go all the way Metro. Yet another fucking genius committee decision that one was. As a developer, it's fun to write for and sure makes it easy to make shit pretty and integrated. Make no mistake - this is the path Windows is on - get used to it now and learn it.
Posted by: gogman at April 13, 2013 04:17 PM (nrxa2)
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at April 13, 2013 06:41 PM (rm+Am)
I'm sure you've moved on Monster, but just in case. The down (undercoat not guard hairs) of even a domestic short-hair is generally spinnable, with care. Naturally the hair of longer cats is easier to spin.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, assault Hobbit at April 13, 2013 05:23 PM (wbeNt)
Here is a caveat on used kindles when it is registered to an account for streaming music or movies a reset doesn't always clear that and you will get an error message if you try to stream. You can call Amazon and they can manually clear it in the database, but they will deny that. Tell them they are full of shit I know they can because I used to have access to the database. They will give in if you are persistent.
Posted by: chad98036 at April 13, 2013 05:41 PM (gYowz)
I know a few in our IT department that tried 8, and went right back to 7. I tried Vista, and went back to XP, Vista had way to many driver issues - like a lot of vendors didn't write them (at the time).
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