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September 30, 2013

Al-Qaeda goes dark after administration leaks and blunders
— Purple Avenger

Bumped due to previous inadvertent Stompenating.

You may recall that back in August, the United States temporarily closed most of its embassies in the Middle East (and issued global travel warnings), due to an unspecified threat that appeared to be emanating from Yemen. A couple days later, it was reported that the warnings came about because al-Qaeda was believed to be in the final stages of planning a major attack (that was now apparently averted.)

I'd previously speculated in comments how the embassy shutdown debacle a couple of months ago may have been a hasty reaction to an Al-Qaeda comms security TEST, rather than a response to genuine threat.

We have no idea if the supposed planned attack was real or fake since nothing happened.

What we do know is, our response to this "intel" WAS REAL and READILY OBSERVABLE.

If you were AQ and wanted to do an integrity check on your comms protocol(s) and conduits, what better way than to have your enemy validate that integrity for you? Seeing real world responses to fake intel trumps speculation and guessing every time.

If you had multiple active information protocols/conduits, as I'm sure AQ does, and suspect one may have been compromised, you'd just engineer and release multiple plausible fake narratives, one for each protocol/conduit, then see what sort of responses, if any, are generated. A response correlating to the fake intel for a particular conduit identifies the compromised protocol/conduit. [This isn't just a "spook thing", commercial/industrial information security uses this technique every day to find leaks.]

At that point, you've got a couple of options - go dark on the compromised conduit, or if you want to be more clever, turn it against your enemy and use it to your advantage to feed them future misinformation.

If you go dark, your enemy knows for certain that you know the conduit has been compromised...and they start looking around for your new conduits.

If you start feeding them mundane crap with the occasional fake but plausible nuggets, you got a chance to lead them around by the nose on a bunch of fruitless snipe hunts that dilute and expend their resources. ex. the soviets were notorious for setting up fake missile silos so U2's and sats could "notice" them.

AQ may not be sophisticated enough to play this spy-vs-spy stuff quite at the n-level indirections we did with the Soviets, but I'm damn sure they're sophisticated enough to run occasional tests of their comm protocols for leaks and intercepts.

The absolute worst thing is overtly responding to intel, as we did, which reveals your defensive posture, then bragging about what conduit that intel came from. If the intel WAS fake and a test, you did everything the enemy wanted you to and then some.

It would be a mistake to presume AQ is so unsophisticated they operate like a bunch of 5 year olds playing Cowboys and Indians in a tree fort.

MOAR here in Allah's piece that was sidebar'd

Posted by: Purple Avenger at 01:30 PM | Comments (109)
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1 uh oh, two new posts up.

Posted by: willow at September 30, 2013 12:01 PM (nqBYe)

2 Top men.

Posted by: huerfano at September 30, 2013 12:03 PM (bAGA/)

3 i guess other people took a nap.

Posted by: willow at September 30, 2013 12:04 PM (nqBYe)

4 or are 'down for the nap'

Posted by: willow at September 30, 2013 12:04 PM (nqBYe)

5 zzzzZZZZZzzzzz

Posted by: toby928Â© for TB at September 30, 2013 12:05 PM (evdj2)

6 purp but look! You see, they might not have saved people from every attack but they saved this attack from itself!

Posted by: willow at September 30, 2013 12:05 PM (nqBYe)

7 I feel safer already. Let me tell you. But hey, the prez is black so everything is cool, right?

Posted by: Model-1066 at September 30, 2013 12:06 PM (v/Al0)

8 it is possible Al Qaeda has more intelligence in our agencies than we do in theirs.

Posted by: willow at September 30, 2013 12:07 PM (nqBYe)

9 cnn, look our guys will be landing 2 miles to the left of bagdad bob at 10p.m sharp.
be there or be square.

Posted by: willow at September 30, 2013 12:09 PM (nqBYe)

10 it's kinda lonely in here.

Posted by: willow at September 30, 2013 12:10 PM (nqBYe)

11 Damn! that's the worst stompenning I've seen here!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 30, 2013 12:10 PM (DmNpO)

12 Neidermeyer, for a Nap!

Posted by: willow at September 30, 2013 12:10 PM (nqBYe)

But when the GUBMINT links important intel, it's okay, because Reasons.

Fuck Obama. I mean it, just fuck him and all his fucking fuckwad cronies.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at September 30, 2013 12:11 PM (4df7R)

14 then bragging about what conduit that intel came from. Obama's administration of braggarts

Posted by: panzernashorn at September 30, 2013 12:11 PM (MhA4j)

15 This poor little thread, all enstompened by ace's naptime woes.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at September 30, 2013 12:12 PM (4df7R)

16 what was the story when Syria decided to hide its stockpiples.

cnn- syria is hiding 50 stockpiles of stuff over the country.

3 mths later

cnn - UN is going into Syria to look for 50 stockpiles of stuff.

Posted by: willow at September 30, 2013 12:13 PM (nqBYe)

17 It was a stealth under-posting by backdating, not a stomp per se.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 30, 2013 12:13 PM (9MLX+)

Posted by: Purp at September 30, 2013 04:13 PM (9MLX+)

Trying to confuse the NSA purp?

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (tablet) at September 30, 2013 12:14 PM (a8eFL)

19 Basic intel logic.

Posted by: baldilocks at September 30, 2013 12:14 PM (Tnlh/)

20 The greatest intelligence blunder since they leaked that Usama bin Laden was using a sat-phone.

Posted by: Bob Lee Swagger at September 30, 2013 12:15 PM (e8kgV)

21 BTW, are our embassies still in lockdown crisis mode like they were back in August? Or did they quietly go back to operating as usual?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at September 30, 2013 12:15 PM (4df7R)

22 purp said ,not a stomp per se.

Posted by: Purp at September 30, 2013 04:13 PM (9MLX+)

quit acting squished -y

Posted by: willow at September 30, 2013 12:15 PM (nqBYe)

23 It would be a mistake to presume AQ is so unsophisticated they operate like a bunch of 5 year olds playing Cowboys and Indians in a tree fort.

No, that's this administration

Posted by: Memories at September 30, 2013 12:15 PM (VRDSX)

24 our intelligence is in the Best of hands!

Posted by: biden at September 30, 2013 12:16 PM (nqBYe)

25 It's almost as if our intel effectiveness is being intentionally destroyed...along with every other aspect of our country's power. /

Posted by: baldilocks at September 30, 2013 12:16 PM (Tnlh/)

26 "It would be a mistake to presume AQ is so unsophisticated they operate like a bunch of 5 year olds playing Cowboys and Indians in a tree fort."

Hey, No fair! We called that first!

Posted by: Obama's Top. Men. at September 30, 2013 12:17 PM (/lWM8)

27 You guys have no idea how hard it is to keep track of 320 million Americans And those other bad guys way over there.

Posted by: nSA at September 30, 2013 12:18 PM (nqBYe)

28 Read "Legacy of Ashes" if you get the chance. While they only focus on the negatives of the CIA, they are completely widespread and you begin to understand how this could happen. That idiot Porter Goss cleared the agency out of brilliant people and, well, where are you going to pick up replacements for those high ranking personnel?

Posted by: Snow Soul at September 30, 2013 12:18 PM (0gm3m)

29 The PentagonÂ’s main battlefield intelligence network in Afghanistan is vulnerable to hackers Â— both the enemy or a leaker Â— and the U.S. command in Kabul will cut it off from the militaryÂ’s classified data files unless the Army fixes the defects within 60 days, according to an official memo obtained by The Washington Times.

The confidential memo says the ArmyÂ’s Distributed Common Ground System (DCGS) flunked a readiness test and does not confirm the sources of outside Internet addresses entering the classified database.

The Sept. 5 warning from the U.S. command in Kabul is another blow to the intelligence network, commonly called Â“D-Sigs.Â” It already sustained a wave of criticism from soldiers saying its performance was unreliable and from the PentagonÂ’s top tester, who judged it as not operationally effective.

Posted by: Homer Simpson at September 30, 2013 12:19 PM (e8kgV)

30 28 Read "Legacy of Ashes" if you get the chance. While they only focus on the negatives of the CIA, they are completely widespread and you begin to understand how this could happen. That idiot Porter Goss cleared the agency out of brilliant people and, well, where are you going to pick up replacements for those high ranking personnel? Posted by: Snow Soul at September 30, 2013 04:18 PM (0gm3m Read it a few years back. The CIA was compromised before it was born.

Posted by: baldilocks at September 30, 2013 12:21 PM (Tnlh/)

31 our intelligence has been stretched to the limit checking all your emails to see if you drink more soda than you should! And every other americans suspicious e-mails, speaking of the delicious unhealthy foods that were served for dinner last night, Sorry you deserved that indigestion! And srsly, would you quit bitching about your work schedules.
but would you please show more boobs when your cam is on.
thank you.

Posted by: babay at September 30, 2013 12:23 PM (nqBYe)

32 Barkies dad was a Muz. Certain bi-racial presidents may exhibit strong tribal tendencies. I'm sure Freud would have a field day. Shorter: The President is a Muzzie sympathizer at minimum. Sky is the limit really. I Denounce myself.

Posted by: nip at September 30, 2013 12:24 PM (jI23+)

33 Posted by: baldilocks at September 30, 2013 04:21 PM (Tnlh/) Indeed, but it puts the intelligence community, particularly the CIA, into a better vision. You get the idea they are a crack team of intelligence agents who can kill anyone, anywhere, but they've been manipulated by our enemies from the get-go and with recent developments, such as this, it isn't so surprising.

Posted by: Snow Soul at September 30, 2013 12:26 PM (0gm3m)

34 People have a distorted view of the CIA due to media and movies. I think the ops/analysis split is like 20/80 on manpower.

They do a lot more gathering of information and observing than acting.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 30, 2013 12:34 PM (9MLX+)

Send this in the clear:

The fresh water condenser is out at Midway.

Posted by: Registered Voter at September 30, 2013 12:36 PM (Hdbf3)

36 AF Air Unit had sent a message to Hawaii reporting it had only a two weeks' supply of fresh water and asking for an immediate resupply.

Posted by: Tokyo Naval Intelligence at September 30, 2013 12:47 PM (evdj2)

37 "It would be a mistake to presume AQ is so unsophisticated they operate like a bunch of 5 year olds playing Cowboys and Indians in a tree fort."

But it would not be a mistake at all to assume that our own government operates at this exact level.

Posted by: Sharkman at September 30, 2013 12:51 PM (PzbX0)

38 "It would be a mistake to presume AQ is so unsophisticated they operate
like a bunch of 5 year olds playing Cowboys and Indians in a tree fort."

But it would not be a mistake at all to assume that our own government operates at this exact level.
--

What are you, raaaaacist? The U.S. government does not use the term Indians. It is not politically correct. It's okay to hate Cowboys though. Everyone knows they are reichtwing h8ers.

Posted by: Mayday at September 30, 2013 01:10 PM (eHc+1)

39 BF Barry was so forceful during his speech we've slipped away to the Lincoln bedroom. Caviar, waygu beef, priceless wine - thank you taxpayers!

Posted by: Reggie Love at September 30, 2013 01:33 PM (/1ATA)

40 What are you, raaaaacist? The U.S. government does not use the term Indians. It is not politically correct.

It's now Feather or Dot.
Casino or 7/11.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 30, 2013 01:34 PM (d0Dmj)

41 If you had multiple active information protocols/conduits, as I'm sure AQ does, and suspect one may have been compromised, you'd just engineer and release multiple plausible fake narratives ...

Dude. You could've just written, "WHAT THE DWARF ON GAME OF THRONES DID"

Posted by: weft cut-loop clutching stffd dragon [/i] [/b] at September 30, 2013 01:35 PM (ligos)

42 It's almost as if our intel effectiveness is being intentionally destroyed...along with every other aspect of our country's power. / Posted by: baldilocks at September 30, 2013 04:16 PM (Tnlh/) And the people on TV say TRA LA LA, TRA LA LA!

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at September 30, 2013 01:35 PM (qyfb5)

43 Every time the JEF tries to put his political big boy pants on, he realizes they don't exist.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette: napper extraordinaire at September 30, 2013 01:36 PM (IXrOn)

44 Senate passed by unanimous consent house bill paying military If govt does in fact shutdown,

Posted by: Barky at September 30, 2013 01:37 PM (nTgAI)

45 If they can fuck this up, imagine what they do with our personal info they're so gleefully and illegally gathering.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at September 30, 2013 01:38 PM (0HooB)

I'm glad Purp's most excellent thread got bumped.

Posted by: wheatie at September 30, 2013 01:39 PM (61FoN)

47 And by attack on embassies they meant malls.

Posted by: polynikes at September 30, 2013 01:39 PM (m2CN7)

48 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at September 30, 2013 01:39 PM (/PCJa)

49 Burn it down. Scatter the stones. Salt the earth where it stood.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at September 30, 2013 01:40 PM (/PCJa)

50 If a government shuts down in the forest, would anybody notice?

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at September 30, 2013 01:40 PM (xzjGW)

51 Another YouTube video with the truth about the pedo boy lover mohamed?

Posted by: Boss Moss former editor of the Harvard Law Review at September 30, 2013 01:40 PM (0axsw)

52 Obama only really cares about poll numbers. Look busy (and/or golf), (try to) look competent, give a bunch of speeches. If anything goes wrong, blame it on a You-Tube video and make an example out of some random person.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at September 30, 2013 01:41 PM (bc6Q/)

53 FDR and Churchill at least had the sense to put intelligent people in charge of the war effort.

Ultra created excuses for German Intel lapses, so they could continue to believe their codes were secure. MI-6 even created a fake spy ring called Lucy, so that they could have it give the Soviets Enigma intel, while claiming they got the info from highly placed moles.

Posted by: Kristophr at September 30, 2013 01:41 PM (c6N69)

54 "44 Senate passed by unanimous consent house bill paying military If govt does in fact shutdown, Posted by: Barky" You know what worries me, of course the founders never thought such common sense things such as this needed to be spelled out in the Constitution because it never occurred to them how completely evil, partisan and destructive todays politicians might become. No we know better of course, but then again, a few hundred years ago they sure thought they knew what was what, and yes at the time they did. So how stupid are we really being now... how much worse could these stupid MFers become in the years ahead....

Posted by: Melvin Frohike at September 30, 2013 01:42 PM (sYLzD)

In that old movie '2010' ...it was revealed that the culprit who ordered Hal to lie, was the NSC.

Remember that?

And now...we have a notorious Liar as the head of the NSC. Susan Rice.

She was even awarded the job for her meritorious lying.

Posted by: wheatie at September 30, 2013 01:42 PM (61FoN)

56 And this is why HUMINT > SIGINT. It really is much harder to lie to your face than to send an email (or make a phone call, or whatever) with false information.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at September 30, 2013 01:42 PM (/PCJa)

57 It would be a mistake to presume AQ is so unsophisticated they operate like a bunch of 5 year olds playing Cowboys and Indians in a tree fort.

Who you callin' unsophisticated?

Posted by: The White House Tree Fort at September 30, 2013 01:42 PM (3skKE)

58 You know what worries me, of course the founders never thought such common sense things such as this needed to be spelled out in the Constitution because it never occurred to them how completely evil, partisan and destructive todays politicians might become. Actually, I think the ones they under (over?) estimated were us. They'd have been shooting by now.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at September 30, 2013 01:43 PM (/PCJa)

59 Now, I completely understand why Obama said he wouldn't be "scrambling jets to go after Snowden." His administration's leaks are just as dangerous to National Security.

Posted by: no good deed at September 30, 2013 01:47 PM (k55Fc)

Agency gets chatter and closes all of our embassies. No attack.

Agency gets direct info identifying possible terrorists and ignore. 5 deaths and 280 people injured.

Posted by: polynikes at September 30, 2013 01:47 PM (m2CN7)

61 Agencygets chatter and closes all of our embassies. No attack. Agency getsdirect info identifying possible terrorists and ignore.5 deaths and 280 people injured. Top. Men.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at September 30, 2013 01:48 PM (/PCJa)

62 "59 You know what worries me, of course the founders never thought such common sense things such as this needed to be spelled out in the Constitution because it never occurred to them how completely evil, partisan and destructive todays politicians might become. Actually, I think the ones they under (over?) estimated were us. They'd have been shooting by now. Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at September 30, 2013 05:43 PM (/PCJa) " It's a Brave New World. The Founders had no real way of foreseeing the cumulative effects that a bunch of fundamentally miniscule changes would induce.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at September 30, 2013 01:48 PM (bc6Q/)

63 Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at September 30, 2013 05:43 PM (/PCJa)

The founders had their own LIVs.

About one-third of the colonists didn't give a rat's ass about the tussles with Great Britain, and about one-third were Royalists!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 30, 2013 01:48 PM (/kU/5)

64 The founders had their own LIVs. About one-third of the colonists didn't give a rat's ass about the tussles with Great Britain, and about one-third were Royalists! Can you spell out your point? 'Cause what I see is, "Look at all they did despite 2/3 of their population being fundamentally against their cause."

Posted by: bonhomme at September 30, 2013 01:51 PM (yETln)

65 It sounds to me like AQ overtly planned a fake job like Robert DeNiro did in "Heat" to see who was watching them

"You know what they're looking at? Are these guys good or what! They're looking at us.. the po-lice department.. the LAPD"

Posted by: kbdabear at September 30, 2013 01:51 PM (aTXUx)

66 About one-third of the colonists didn't give a rat's ass about the tussles with Great Britain, and about one-third were Royalists! Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 30, 2013 05:48 PM (/kU/5) Sounds remarkably familiar.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 30, 2013 01:51 PM (GEICT)

and about one-third were Royalists!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 30, 2013 05:48 PM (/kU/5)

Now known at Canadians.

Posted by: polynikes at September 30, 2013 01:53 PM (m2CN7)

68 The founders had their own LIVs.

About one-third of the colonists didn't give a rat's ass about the tussles with Great Britain, and about one-third were Royalists!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 30, 2013 05:48 PM

Come on dude, Massachusetts Bay Colony's Got Talent is on tonight!!!

Posted by: kbdabear at September 30, 2013 01:53 PM (aTXUx)

69 It sounds to me like AQ overtly planned a fake job like Robert DeNiro did in "Heat" to see who was watching them "You know what they're looking at? Are these guys good or what! They're looking at us.. the po-lice department.. the LAPD" Ugh, I like that you're making it cool and all, but this is really basic stuff. I mean even Movie companies do this with scripts. They have different mis-spellings and edits in different copies. If someone releases a copy, they know who did it. When a Movie company knows more about op-sec than you do, it's not cool or romantic. It's head-poundingly frustrating.

Posted by: bonhomme at September 30, 2013 01:54 PM (yETln)

70 I wonder how many good intelligence folks are quitting because of this pos.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 30, 2013 01:54 PM (IXrOn)

71 We had a Tory Fort in my childhood neighborhood. A cave where the local Loyalists hid and held secret meetings until, oopsie, someone set a big fire at the mouth of the cave and suffocated the fuckers. I liked to climb in it.

Posted by: Lincolntf at September 30, 2013 01:54 PM (ZshNr)

So how stupid are we really being now... how much worse could these stupid MFers become in the years ahead....

Our Founders understood human nature as it relates to power far better than any modern-day shrink. Fortunately for us, they left us with this knowledge plus a framework to diminish the negative effects of those who seek power for its own sake.

It's no coincidence that our current woes result from the things they saw hundreds of years ago. It's been the same with every great nation that's ever risen to world prominence. We have at our disposal the right and the means to alter or abolish our current form of government should it fail to meet the needs of the people. Abolition is not needed, fortunately. What is needed is a purge of the unprincipled, the greedy, and the power-seekers.

Evil, much like poverty, shall always be with us. It must always and without hesitation be challenged and defeated.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at September 30, 2013 01:55 PM (0HooB)

73 We had a Tory Fort in my childhood neighborhood. A cave where the local Loyalists hid and held secret meetings until, oopsie, someone set a big fire at the mouth of the cave and suffocated the fuckers. Soo ... does anyone use it now? ELF, Democracy Now!, Socialist Workers United against People Using their Earnings for their own Benefit?

Posted by: bonhomme at September 30, 2013 01:56 PM (yETln)

74 Can you spell out your point? 'Cause what I see is, "Look at all they did despite 2/3 of their population being fundamentally against their cause."

Only 1/3 were fundamentally opposed. Another 1/3 didn't much care.

The latter were too busy being distracted by lesser pursuits like football, baseball and the radio (they didn't have the Internet back then you know).

Posted by: Hollowpoint at September 30, 2013 01:56 PM (SY2Kh)

75 "Evil, much like poverty, shall always be with us. It must always and without hesitation be challenged and defeated. Posted by: BackwardsBoy..." Well said.

Posted by: Melvin Frohike at September 30, 2013 01:57 PM (sYLzD)

76 "73 So how stupid are we really being now... how much worse could these stupid MFers become in the years ahead.... Our Founders understood human nature as it relates to power far better than any modern-day shrink. Fortunately for us, they left us with this knowledge plus a framework to diminish the negative effects of those who seek power for its own sake. It's no coincidence that our current woes result from the things they saw hundreds of years ago. It's been the same with every great nation that's ever risen to world prominence. We have at our disposal the right and the means to alter or abolish our current form of government should it fail to meet the needs of the people. Abolition is not needed, fortunately. What is needed is a purge of the unprincipled, the greedy, and the power-seekers. Evil, much like poverty, shall always be with us. It must always and without hesitation be challenged and defeated. Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at September 30, 2013 05:55 PM (0HooB) " What good are knowledge, rights, and means if people are too busy posting "selfies" to give a fuck?

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at September 30, 2013 01:58 PM (bc6Q/)

77 Only 1/3 were fundamentally opposed. Another 1/3 didn't much care. I stated it too strongly. The 1/3 who doesn't care is more likely to move for the status quo, as long as it doesn't put them out too much.

Posted by: bonhomme at September 30, 2013 01:58 PM (yETln)

78 It's blocked off and covered with graffiti nowadays. Courtesy of the Massachusetts Reservoir Authority, or whatever they're called, taking over all the property and deeming it a hazard. Enterprising youngsters can still get in by a slim shaft in the top.

Posted by: Lincolntf at September 30, 2013 01:58 PM (ZshNr)

79 The Founders certainly foresaw partisanship and individual power-hunger. I'm not so sure they foresaw a massive federal bureaucracy of the extent we currently have.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at September 30, 2013 01:58 PM (+WwfA)

80 "75 Can you spell out your point? 'Cause what I see is, "Look at all they did despite 2/3 of their population being fundamentally against their cause." Only 1/3 were fundamentally opposed. Another 1/3 didn't much care. The latter were too busy being distracted by lesser pursuits like football, baseball and the radio (they didn't have the Internet back then you know). Posted by: Hollowpoint at September 30, 2013 05:56 PM (SY2Kh) " Heh. :-)

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at September 30, 2013 01:59 PM (bc6Q/)

81 At that point, you've got a couple of options - go dark on the compromised conduit, or if you want to be more clever, turn it against your enemy and use it to your advantage to feed them future misinformation. In World War II we deduced the Japanese attack at Midway by having Midway send radio traffic saying they were running low on Water. Japanese Navy Traffic dutifully reported (in a code we had broken) that "the "target" reports it's running low on water." That's when we knew we had them. http://www.nsa.gov/about/cryptologic_heritage/center_crypt_history/publications/battle_midway.shtml

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at September 30, 2013 02:00 PM (bb5+k)

82 Maybe it was a real threat and I wanted to give a heads-up to AQ we were on to them, hmmmmm?

Posted by: Burackus Golfus at September 30, 2013 02:00 PM (m4gAJ)

83 Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at September 30, 2013 06:00 PM (bb5+k) Hmmm... just noticed that link I posted went to the NSA. I guess everything does nowadays.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at September 30, 2013 02:01 PM (bb5+k)

84 I would say let it burn, but that would give too much credit to what the federal government does. Let it lay in its own squalor. Don't open the son of a bitch again

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz, now with popgun genitalia at September 30, 2013 02:01 PM (cM3PW)

I like intel and Katy Perry's boobs. One more than the other.

Posted by: and irresolute at September 30, 2013 02:01 PM (RqHWH)

86 At least the administration didnÂ’t react to the threat to take away all of our Kaboom! cereal.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at September 30, 2013 02:02 PM (QF8uk)

87 44 Senate passed by unanimous consent house bill paying military If govt does in fact shutdown,

Now that their Preznit is in power, they won't dare shut-off the military.

Do a 7 day delay so the preznit signs it, then it is time to shut the government down as long as possible, until a REAL budget

Posted by: phreshone at September 30, 2013 02:02 PM (Pr6hk)

88 "78 Only 1/3 were fundamentally opposed. Another 1/3 didn't much care. I stated it too strongly. The 1/3 who doesn't care is more likely to move for the status quo, as long as it doesn't put them out too much. Posted by: bonhomme at September 30, 2013 05:58 PM (yETln) " Apathy is an endorsement of the status quo. Which is why the elites always try to maximize it. (Entertainment and egocentrism are the opiates of the Masses. Obviously.) Later, all. God bless. :-)

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at September 30, 2013 02:03 PM (bc6Q/)

89 The Founders certainly foresaw partisanship and individual power-hunger. I'm not so sure they foresaw a massive federal bureaucracy of the extent we currently have.>>

I seem to recall an amendment that was put in to limit the federal power. I think the burn scatter salt guy knows something about it.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at September 30, 2013 02:03 PM (wrS2o)

Only 1/3 were fundamentally opposed. Another 1/3 didn't much care.

The latter were too busy being distracted by lesser pursuits like football, baseball and the radio (they didn't have the Internet back then you know).

To be fair, there were indigenous peoples to oppress and countless species to eradicate.

Posted by: garrett at September 30, 2013 02:03 PM (K6hWO)

91 The Founders didn't anticipate that phrases like "commerce between the states" would later be interpreted to include "farmer growing crops on his own land for his own personal use".

Posted by: Hollowpoint at September 30, 2013 02:03 PM (SY2Kh)

92 Diogenes has a wide stance. Actually, thatÂ’s a good width for the content.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at September 30, 2013 02:03 PM (QF8uk)

93 New York Post Metro ‏@nypmetro 3h

NYPD is hunting for 2 mystery parachuters who landed in Lower Manhattan and vanished http://nyp.st/17kc976

Posted by: Jones in CO at September 30, 2013 02:04 PM (8sCoq)

94 Now known at Canadians.

...and now we have an emperor and they don't.

Fuck.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at September 30, 2013 02:05 PM (/kI1Q)

95 NYPD is hunting for 2 mystery parachuters who landed in Lower Manhattan and vanished http://nyp.st/17kc976 Wolverines!

Posted by: Guy who says “Wolverines!” at September 30, 2013 02:05 PM (QF8uk)

96 32 Barkies dad was a Muz. Certain bi-racial presidents may exhibit strong tribal tendencies. I'm sure Freud would have a field day. Shorter: The President is a Muzzie sympathizer at minimum. Sky is the limit really. I Denounce myself. And his momma was a 60's Sandra Fluke. Well. Without the birth control. Get you some Freud.

Posted by: Golfman in NC at September 30, 2013 02:06 PM (Oe9vd)

97 If a government shuts down in the forest, would anybody notice?
Does a bear shit in the White House?

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at September 30, 2013 02:07 PM (qnPg9)

98 crickets?

Posted by: panzernashorn at September 30, 2013 02:07 PM (MhA4j)

99 NYPD is hunting for 2 mystery parachuters who landed in Lower Manhattan and vanished http://nyp.st/17kc976 If they jumped out of a plane, they're fooked. They will be found. If they jumped off of a structure, they have a chance never to be found. Just don't upload any video of your adventure, guys.

Posted by: bonhomme at September 30, 2013 02:07 PM (yETln)

100 NYPD is hunting for 2 mystery parachuters who landed in Lower Manhattan and vanished http://nyp.st/17kc976 Â“At 3:07 this morning, two individuals apparently parachuted to the front of the Goldman Sachs building,Â” NYPD Commissioner Ray Kelly said. Â“WeÂ’re not 100 percent sure of the location, if they came out of an aircraft, but they were seen walking away with the parachutes.Â” Confidence inspiring.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 30, 2013 02:08 PM (GEICT)

101

What good are knowledge, rights, and means if people are too busy posting "selfies" to give a fuck?

They don't have the intellectual capacity to help us in what must be done, unfortunately. As other Morons have pointed out, our Founders faced a similar problem and were not deterred.

That's another thing that will always be with us. We're fighting an uphill battle to be sure, but why let that stop us? Eventually, we'll reach critical mass and win the uninterested over to our side, if nothing else through sheer repetition. But those in DC who allege to be on our side need to start speaking up. Cruz, Paul, Palin, Lee are a good start.

Let the blind lead the blind in the ditch. At least they'll be out of the way.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at September 30, 2013 02:10 PM (0HooB)

102 32, 97 Barry's Kenyan dad and adopted Indonesian dad were SUNNI Muslims. Sunnis are by far the majority, only about 15% of the world's Muslims are Shia. Mecca is in Wahhabi Sunni Saudi Arabia, which has been over a century battling via fundamentalist jihad for global conquest via the most barbaric bestial means, killing arbitrarily all who are not Sunni, and of that, who are not Wahhabi Sunni with the US Military and US Government and global corporatists and the banksters on the side of the Wahhabi Global Caliphate.

Posted by: panzernashorn at September 30, 2013 02:13 PM (MhA4j)

103 Â“At 3:07 this morning, two individuals apparently parachuted to the front of the Goldman Sachs building,Â” NYPD Commissioner Ray Kelly said. Â“WeÂ’re not 100 percent sure of the location, if they came out of an aircraft, but they were seen walking away with the parachutes.Â”

In other news, the LAPD mistook a middle aged woman wearing a blue hat, grey blouse and carrying a garbage bag for the suspects, who were reported to have been wearing black helmets and jump suits.

86 shots were fired, but thankfully nobody was seriously injured. The Commissioner for the LAPD stood behind the actions of his officers, citing "officer safety".

Posted by: Hollowpoint at September 30, 2013 02:15 PM (SY2Kh)

104 ...and now we have an emperor and they don't.
Fuck.
Better one tyrant three thousand miles away than three thousand tyrants one mile away.

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at September 30, 2013 02:16 PM (qnPg9)

105 I can't imagine bothering to parachute into NYC when you can just take the bus or train.

Occam's razor suggests ordinary base jumpers.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 30, 2013 02:17 PM (9MLX+)

106 OFF TOPIC but for leaks and blunders A team of MBA students were the recipients of the 2013 Hult Prize earlier this week, providing them with $1 million in seed money to produce an insect-based, protein-rich flour for feeding malnourished populations in other countries. The product is called Power Flour. The team begins immediately working with an advisory board to recruit farmers and workers in Mexico, where a population of roughly 4 million live in slum conditions with widespread malnutrition. "We will be starting with grasshoppers." ==What could possibly go wrong? Whether problems with Quality control or insane Insect Rights Eco Fascists. Texas rice farmers, US agriculture throughout the Great Southwestern States...

Posted by: panzernashorn at September 30, 2013 02:18 PM (MhA4j)

107 Locusts eat your crops, then you eat the locusts. Sweet revenge.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 30, 2013 02:23 PM (9MLX+)

108 AF was short on water

That was the coded message that the US broke that confirmed that the Japanese was going to attack Midway, They knew so because they told Midway to send an open message to Pearl that their water distillation plant had been damaged.

Now we know how Yamamoto felt.

Posted by: John P. Squibob at September 30, 2013 02:25 PM (7JDMp)

109 "AQ may not be sophisticated enough to play this spy-vs-spy stuff quite at the n-level indirections we did with the Soviets, but I'm damn sure they're sophisticated enough to run occasional tests of their comm protocols for leaks and intercepts"

When it comes to strategy, AQ runs circles around the O admin, but then so could the average 14 year old sending pictures of his/her private parts to another 14 year old.

Posted by: angel with a sword at September 30, 2013 02:45 PM (hpgw1)

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