October 16, 2013
— Purple Avenger Too much liability for Ace in the last one, so its going into draft. Sorry about being a hard-ass about this, but that's the way it has to be.
Entertain yourselves with some tasty FBI hate crime stats. See if you can spot some regional trends...
And thank god some of the British music never washed up on our shores in the 1960's as part of the British Invasion, or we'd have been subjected to this abomination...
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Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 16, 2013 06:55 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Lady in Black at October 16, 2013 06:55 AM (XB5Ak)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 16, 2013 06:55 AM (N8z9m)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 16, 2013 06:55 AM (ZPrif)
Multiple Senate sources say Boehner has agreed to vote first on the Reid-McConnell deal. Game over.
Hastert rule! Yay!
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 16, 2013 06:56 AM (TpXEI)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 16, 2013 06:56 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: GalaKitty at October 16, 2013 06:56 AM (JkNDe)
Posted by: CrankyJAnne at October 16, 2013 06:56 AM (ZrCni)
Posted by: blaster at October 16, 2013 06:56 AM (W6bkf)
Huh, OK.
I dropped the topic at hand and had moved on to things like Prenda and Mann to make the broader point (that we need more robust Anti-Slapp) but..sure.
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at October 16, 2013 06:56 AM (GaqMa)
Posted by: Lady in Black at October 16, 2013 06:56 AM (XB5Ak)
Posted by: joncelli at October 16, 2013 06:56 AM (RD7QR)
Burn it all.
Posted by: grognard at October 16, 2013 06:57 AM (/29Nl)
I was trying to obliquely discuss the legal theory involved.
I'll shut up.
Posted by: sven10077 at October 16, 2013 06:57 AM (9jfyN)
Could a miraculous thing happen and the GOP stick together and kill the Senate deal?
Haha. I crack myself up.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 16, 2013 06:57 AM (N8z9m)
Posted by: CrankyJAnne at October 16, 2013 06:57 AM (ZrCni)
it ain't a game, and I sincerely hope you enjoy SPeaker Pelosi II as much as I aim to.
Posted by: sven10077 at October 16, 2013 06:58 AM (9jfyN)
Posted by: Boss Moss at October 16, 2013 06:58 AM (a6O1A)
Posted by: Benjamin Franklin at October 16, 2013 10:57 AM (/cq36)
Yeah, sorry Ben. Guess we couldn't keep it.
Posted by: joncelli at October 16, 2013 06:58 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at October 16, 2013 06:58 AM (/kI1Q)
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at October 16, 2013 06:58 AM (l3vZN)
Posted by: rickb223 at October 16, 2013 06:58 AM (p9JxP)
Posted by: Yip at October 16, 2013 06:58 AM (/jHWN)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 16, 2013 06:58 AM (ZPrif)
...well, this is the type of result you get.
Posted by: grognard at October 16, 2013 06:59 AM (/29Nl)
Posted by: Lady in Black at October 16, 2013 06:59 AM (XB5Ak)
Only if we have retainers....
heh
Michael "not the talented one" Mann shows "discovery adventures" is a one way street
Posted by: sven10077 at October 16, 2013 06:59 AM (9jfyN)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 16, 2013 06:59 AM (aDwsi)
The female judge tells one of her employees not to file a citation. The citation is for harassment and was filed by one of the judge's adult male children against his brother. Two months later the cop asked where the citation went. Judge says the system is backlogged. So she then enters the citation herself while saying the person is a black female and not a white male. When the employee got subpenaed, the judge tried to have the employee fired.
So the presiding judge I think has ample reasons to hammer this woman and be unmoved by her peas for leniency.
http://tinyurl.com/lxrrtfd
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 16, 2013 06:59 AM (bfAee)
It was gone before I was born. Before my parents even met.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at October 16, 2013 06:59 AM (/kI1Q)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at October 16, 2013 07:00 AM (0HooB)
I mean, the point never seemed to actually do something constructive for this caucus, it was just to be able to go home to their gerrymandered district and say to any TeaTard primary challenger "I voted no, so there, you can't have my seat"
So now we get a worse Senate bill because 30 or so House members wanted a talking point.
Is that what the conservative movement has come to, an exercise in purity for a handful of House members?
Posted by: Jeepers at October 16, 2013 07:00 AM (XDRsa)
Posted by: spypeach at October 16, 2013 07:00 AM (10H0T)
Posted by: sven10077 at October 16, 2013 10:57 AM (9jfyN)
Heh, I had literally just clicked "post" on a bit about a professor (who I just called Q) in my field threating to sue another well know professor (and Slate) because he wrote an article that basically said "I'm concerned Prof Q has some conflicts of interest and should step down as editor of [journal]."
And one wonders why I'm backtracking a bit on entering the field 
. (Freaking tenured professors using lawfare.)
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at October 16, 2013 07:00 AM (GaqMa)
Posted by: brak at October 16, 2013 07:00 AM (NaTky)
Paul "P90X Stud" Ryan and Eric "Mickey" Cantor say, "so tell Reid as long as he uses lube..."
Posted by: sven10077 at October 16, 2013 07:00 AM (9jfyN)
Posted by: Boss Moss at October 16, 2013 07:00 AM (a6O1A)
Who Rules the Streets of New York?
Fox 5 NY: http://tiny.cc/djy14w
NEW YORK (MYFOXNY) - Who rules the streets? Some are beginning to wonder after a rash of incidents in the city organized by flash mobs.
You can find all types of vehicles making their way around Manhattan. Last weekend, more than a thousand skate boarders cruised city streets in the annual Broadway Bomb. Hundreds of bikers could be seen in the road rage video that went viral a few weeks ago...
My dears, I think we ALL know that the Newsies are king of New York.
YouTube: http://tiny.cc/qmy14w
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 16, 2013 07:00 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: blaster at October 16, 2013 07:00 AM (W6bkf)
Posted by: Benjamin Franklin at October 16, 2013 07:01 AM (/cq36)
We're engaged in a civil war whether people want to admit it or not...
the only saving grace right now is Thank God it is relatively bloodless....
of course that allows too many on our side to pretend the metaphorical slaughter is not real.
Posted by: sven10077 at October 16, 2013 07:01 AM (9jfyN)
Posted by: CrankyJAnne at October 16, 2013 07:01 AM (ZrCni)
Posted by: Reposted .. for Great Justice at October 16, 2013 07:02 AM (QupBk)
Posted by: Thunderb at October 16, 2013 07:02 AM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Yip at October 16, 2013 07:02 AM (/jHWN)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at October 16, 2013 07:02 AM (32Ze2)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 16, 2013 07:02 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: alexthechick - Fuck it kitty, angry kitty, little ball of rage at October 16, 2013 07:02 AM (VtjlW)
the only saving grace right now is Thank God it is relatively bloodless....
of course that allows too many on our side to pretend the metaphorical slaughter is not real.
Posted by: sven10077 at October 16, 2013 11:01 AM (9jfyN)
Hey, I think I seen that on TV.
Posted by: LIV at October 16, 2013 07:03 AM (OZmbA)
**
Heh..goin to the Virgin Islands...nuthin but love there.
Posted by: dananjcon at October 16, 2013 07:03 AM (wmU4G)
Posted by: rickb223 at October 16, 2013 07:03 AM (p9JxP)
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at October 16, 2013 07:03 AM (/kI1Q)
Posted by: BlueStateRebel at October 16, 2013 07:04 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: Boss Moss at October 16, 2013 07:04 AM (a6O1A)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 16, 2013 07:04 AM (bfAee)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at October 16, 2013 07:04 AM (da5Wo)
Blatant judicial corruption of the legal system, like this example, will be a death penalty offense after the collapse and reconstruction.
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at October 16, 2013 07:04 AM (l5zzX)
Quite...
LIV has its GOP counterpart...the idle idiot "GOP Swing voter"...
basically my sister in law who refuses to grasp there are any sinister elements to the little machine donkey is building
Posted by: sven10077 at October 16, 2013 07:05 AM (9jfyN)
Posted by: Sphynx at October 16, 2013 07:05 AM (OZmbA)
'pleas for leniency'
So do the comments in the vanished post count for the weekly totals? I move for them to be dismissed from it.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 16, 2013 07:06 AM (bfAee)
Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at October 16, 2013 07:06 AM (RZ8pf)
Posted by: Your helpful Nat'l Park Stasi at October 16, 2013 07:06 AM (/jHWN)
Posted by: brak at October 16, 2013 11:00 AM (NaTky)
exceedingly ordinary
Posted by: Jones in CO at October 16, 2013 07:06 AM (8sCoq)
Posted by: Sphynx at October 16, 2013 07:07 AM (OZmbA)
Posted by: tangonine at October 16, 2013 07:07 AM (x3YFz)
Entertain yourselves with some tasty FBI hate crime stats. See if you can spot some regional trends...
You know what's rather silly about those, at least from a NH perspective? When I worked for NH DHHS we used to deal with crime statistics a lot, particularly in relation to crimes exacerbated by drug or alcohol charges. The problem was that most of the law enforcement agencies in the state all used different crime reporting data systems, and not all of those systems were compatible with the data requirements of the UCR. The larger cities had been using their own systems for long enough that overhauling them was a costly and difficult process. As of when I left DHHS in 2009, our two biggest cities -- Nashua and Manchester -- weren't even included in our Uniform Crime Reporting stats. It may have finally changed since then, but I'm not so sure.
I wonder how many other states have similar issues, and how much WORSE these stats would be if they were reported properly.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 16, 2013 07:07 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Jones in CO at October 16, 2013 07:08 AM (8sCoq)
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at October 16, 2013 07:08 AM (l5zzX)
Posted by: The littl shyning man at October 16, 2013 07:08 AM (tmFlQ)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 16, 2013 07:08 AM (IXrOn)
Is that what the conservative movement has come to, an exercise in purity for a handful of House members?
Posted by: Jeepers
No, it means that we need to send MORE Tea Party people to Congress. And more Tea Party senators, too.
Posted by: mrp at October 16, 2013 07:08 AM (HjPtV)
Posted by: Boss Moss at October 16, 2013 07:08 AM (a6O1A)
Posted by: Sphynx at October 16, 2013 11:05 AM (OZmbA)
Two words: "mosquitos" and "malaria."
Posted by: tangonine at October 16, 2013 07:09 AM (x3YFz)
Sorry, is it too early for that type of talk. Posted by: spypeach at October 16, 2013 07:09 AM (10H0T)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 16, 2013 07:10 AM (bfAee)
I'm pretty sure the decision those of us who feel the GOP is Ogabe's chief enabler need to make is whether to gift the GOP with control of the house in 2014.
I'm saying "no" it is not like they did anything with the 2010 gift.
Posted by: sven10077 at October 16, 2013 07:10 AM (9jfyN)
Posted by: mindful webworker - choose at October 16, 2013 07:10 AM (pJB7q)
Posted by: Vote Lord Humungus 2016 at October 16, 2013 07:10 AM (HEa5q)
Posted by: Jones in CO at October 16, 2013 11:08 AM (8sCoq)
I was going to reply with something clever then a cute bunny. Look at the ears!
Posted by: tangonine at October 16, 2013 07:11 AM (x3YFz)
Posted by: spypeach at October 16, 2013 07:11 AM (10H0T)
Posted by: Chaos, it the other dark meat at October 16, 2013 07:11 AM (oDCMR)
Posted by: Vote Lord Humungus 2016 at October 16, 2013 11:10 AM (HEa5q)
Four letters: BANNED
(I don't count gud)
Posted by: tangonine at October 16, 2013 07:12 AM (x3YFz)
I'm pretty sure the decision those of us who feel the GOP is Ogabe's chief enabler need to make is whether to gift the GOP with control of the house in 2014.
I'm saying "no" it is not like they did anything with the 2010 gift.
Posted by: sven10077 at October 16, 2013 11:10 AM (9jfyN)
If the GOP doesn't keep the house, it means civil war. Not out of spite. Out of reaction to what will be done by the Dems as a result. Namely massive gun control.
Not saying that the GOP deserves to keep it, at all. I think it's important not to have any illusions about what that sort of loss would cause.
Posted by: grognard at October 16, 2013 07:12 AM (/29Nl)
Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone at October 16, 2013 07:12 AM (4CXoS)
Posted by: Boss Moss at October 16, 2013 07:12 AM (a6O1A)
Posted by: rickb223 at October 16, 2013 07:12 AM (p9JxP)
Posted by: eleven at October 16, 2013 07:13 AM (KXm42)
Posted by: Y-not at October 16, 2013 07:13 AM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 16, 2013 07:13 AM (bfAee)
Posted by: Boss Moss at October 16, 2013 11:12 AM (a6O1A)
Why do you think they call it Happy Valley? (Let that one sink in.)
Posted by: joncelli at October 16, 2013 07:14 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: sven10077
Sven, without the 2010 conservatives, there would never have been a revolt in the first place. It would have been handshakes in the half-dark, lobbyists with bundles, head-nods in the cloakroom, and an afternoon vote followed by an evening at the bar.
Posted by: mrp at October 16, 2013 07:14 AM (HjPtV)
Posted by: sven10077 at October 16, 2013 11:01 AM (9jfyN)
meh, in my field it was two liberals going after each other, so I'm not sure your analogy fits.
More accurately (at least in this case) it was a "you don't criticize the aristocracy."
Suing professor had a big company behind him that wanted to protect it's new pet.
Defendant professor had upset this noble and even though he had a prestigious university they didn't want to get involved.
While the right/left divide is important, let's not lose sight of the strange "you cannot insult me I'm your better!" vibe that's running under all this.
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at October 16, 2013 07:14 AM (GaqMa)
Correct which is why I think ACORN will run its planting operation in the mid terms...
"Ole"
Posted by: sven10077 at October 16, 2013 07:14 AM (9jfyN)
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 16, 2013 07:15 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: Jeepers at October 16, 2013 11:00 AM (XDRsa)
Your logic is like blaming the bank for the bank robbers actions. Any bad deal is a result of the more left than moderate Republicans sabotaging the efforts of the conservatives who continue to be right.
Posted by: polynikes at October 16, 2013 07:15 AM (m2CN7)
Posted by: Yip at October 16, 2013 07:15 AM (/jHWN)
Posted by: Y-not at October 16, 2013 07:15 AM (5H6zj)
Posted by: mrp at October 16, 2013 11:08 AM (HjPtV)
Oh, trust me. The hate train is coming next Nov. The GOP and all their lobbyists are going to be calling the moving vans. You think 2010 was a clearing house?
We're going to make the French revolution look like a tea party.
Posted by: tangonine at October 16, 2013 07:16 AM (x3YFz)
Duly noted and embraced Bike....
what is going on is more "control" v "freedom" I had a discussion with a guy at the clinic this morning about the real divide....
the real divide is not race it is tolerance for unaccountable control.
Posted by: sven10077 at October 16, 2013 07:16 AM (9jfyN)
Posted by: Y-not at October 16, 2013 07:16 AM (5H6zj)
Posted by: RWC at October 16, 2013 07:16 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: Sandra Fluke at October 16, 2013 07:16 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at October 16, 2013 07:16 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: Jeepers at October 16, 2013 11:00 AM (XDRsa)
HQ style hint: when you address people here as "TeaTards," you out yourself as an Obama-felching, child-molesting nickelfucker. So FOAD, troll.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 16, 2013 07:18 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone at October 16, 2013 11:12 AM (4CXoS)
Sometimes it's like missing a 7 car accident at a 4-way intersection. It's best you weren't there.
Posted by: tangonine at October 16, 2013 07:18 AM (x3YFz)
Oooh, good. Mica (my rep) quotes the PS Ranger "make it hurt". Asks Jarvis who he spoke to in the WH.
Now, will someone ask about the signage?
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at October 16, 2013 07:18 AM (0HooB)
Posted by: CarolT at October 16, 2013 07:19 AM (z4WKX)
Posted by: rickb223 at October 16, 2013 07:19 AM (p9JxP)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at October 16, 2013 07:19 AM (da5Wo)
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 16, 2013 11:18 AM (zF6Iw)
I zeroed in on nickelfucker.
I'm on 3 whiteboards working out the mechanics and biology of that.
This is a test question isn't it?
Posted by: tangonine at October 16, 2013 07:20 AM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Lincolntf at October 16, 2013 07:20 AM (ZshNr)
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at October 16, 2013 07:20 AM (YjDyJ)
Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at October 16, 2013 11:16 AM (VtjlW
Sort of like Europe's infant mortality rate. If the baby dies before 24 hours after its born, it does not count as an infant death.
Posted by: polynikes at October 16, 2013 07:20 AM (m2CN7)
Posted by: steevy at October 16, 2013 07:20 AM (9XBK2)
It's a newly branded arcade game of the RNC. Put in a nickel, surrender all dignity, and bend over.
Posted by: grognard at October 16, 2013 07:21 AM (/29Nl)
Posted by: Thunderb at October 16, 2013 07:21 AM (zOTsN)
Posted by: The Political Hat at October 16, 2013 07:21 AM (Vk2pI)
It was up a few days ago too when I checked. Apparently its considered an "essential service"
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at October 16, 2013 07:21 AM (l5zzX)
Posted by: rickb223 at October 16, 2013 07:21 AM (p9JxP)
God forbid the Heritage Foundation try to get its point of view across too.
Question how often does donkey buck the NAACP?
Posted by: sven10077 at October 16, 2013 07:22 AM (9jfyN)
Posted by: Thunderb at October 16, 2013 07:22 AM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 16, 2013 07:22 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Boss Moss at October 16, 2013 07:23 AM (a6O1A)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at October 16, 2013 07:23 AM (da5Wo)
Posted by: Chris M at October 16, 2013 07:23 AM (TJ8HB)
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at October 16, 2013 11:19 AM (/kI1Q)
Yeah, can't decide if that would be painful or pointless. The word is original as an insult, though.
Posted by: joncelli at October 16, 2013 07:23 AM (RD7QR)
It's a newly branded arcade game of the RNC. Put in a nickel, surrender all dignity, and bend over.
Posted by: grognard at October 16, 2013 11:21 AM (/29Nl)
All the Nickelfucker comments have me laughing so hard I could bust a gut.
Posted by: Sphynx at October 16, 2013 07:23 AM (OZmbA)
That narrative is a setup for Hillary, who they will crown their candidate and position as the "reasonable" choice. You know, amongst all this extremism.
They will conveniently ignore the part about how she was a primary participant in the Obama Administration, supported his decisions, ran our foreign policy into the ground, made the world a more dangerous place, has no real, tangible accomplishments, got an ambassador killed and then asked "what does it matter" and ultimately does not have temperament or skills to do the job.
But she's a woman and "it's time" or something.
Posted by: Marcus at October 16, 2013 07:23 AM (GGCsk)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 16, 2013 07:23 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 16, 2013 07:23 AM (bfAee)
Posted by: Beagle at October 16, 2013 07:24 AM (sOtz/)
Hertiage, the debt ceiling, and Hastert rule are all right-wing extremism.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 16, 2013 07:24 AM (TpXEI)
The House GOP stopped gun control one of the few innate fissure points in the donkey caucus.....
and uh "that's it"
no really b/c God help me Ryan and Cantor are going to pass Amnesty by Christmas....
Ogabe was headed for sub 35% finally and we are gonna resurrect the vampire....
The GOP can do it without my voice, my money, or my vote.
Posted by: sven10077 at October 16, 2013 07:24 AM (9jfyN)
Posted by: jakeman at October 16, 2013 07:24 AM (vH4YP)
Oh, I had to read that one. Nicholas Nicklefucker.
Posted by: grognard at October 16, 2013 07:24 AM (/29Nl)
Posted by: CarolT at October 16, 2013 07:24 AM (z4WKX)
Posted by: polynikes at October 16, 2013 11:20 AM (m2CN7)
**
So they get mulligans on infant mortality?
Fuckin creeps.
Posted by: dananjcon at October 16, 2013 07:24 AM (wmU4G)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at October 16, 2013 07:24 AM (da5Wo)
Posted by: polynikes at October 16, 2013 07:25 AM (m2CN7)
Yeah "no no we really ARE moderate honest!"
Just in time for the pendulum swinging right....
screw this...hunker down the game is rigged because "media" and "RINOs"
Posted by: sven10077 at October 16, 2013 07:25 AM (9jfyN)
Posted by: steevy at October 16, 2013 07:25 AM (9XBK2)
Posted by: rickb223 at October 16, 2013 07:25 AM (p9JxP)
I think it's going to be my Word of the Day.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at October 16, 2013 07:26 AM (/kI1Q)
Hey! It was an accident. There was change under the cushion!!!
Posted by: Couchfucker at October 16, 2013 07:26 AM (NF2Bf)
Nickelfucker: Troll from DU or PuffHo who pretends to be making point here in the comments but lets slip a well known perjorative used in the fever swamps.
Posted by: Sphynx at October 16, 2013 07:26 AM (OZmbA)
Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone at October 16, 2013 07:26 AM (dnQ19)
Posted by: Jones in CO at October 16, 2013 07:26 AM (8sCoq)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 16, 2013 07:26 AM (bfAee)
Posted by: Al Hamilton at October 16, 2013 07:26 AM (HjPtV)
Posted by: steevy at October 16, 2013 07:26 AM (9XBK2)
Posted by: Talibill at October 16, 2013 07:27 AM (WEWGu)
Yup...
you know Cochran oddly back in the 80s Bob Dole never got to tell Tip O'Neill "fuck you that bill never gets to the floor fuckhead"
Posted by: sven10077 at October 16, 2013 07:27 AM (9jfyN)
Posted by: rickb223 at October 16, 2013 07:27 AM (p9JxP)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 16, 2013 07:27 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Boss Moss at October 16, 2013 07:28 AM (a6O1A)
Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone at October 16, 2013 07:28 AM (dnQ19)
Posted by: ginaswo at October 16, 2013 07:28 AM (73tjm)
Posted by: Thunderb at October 16, 2013 07:28 AM (zOTsN)
I'm sensing a Smashwords new sub genre springing up....
"Nicklefuckers"
Posted by: sven10077 at October 16, 2013 07:28 AM (9jfyN)
Posted by: Jones in CO at October 16, 2013 07:28 AM (8sCoq)
Posted by: Professor Nigel Nickelfucker at October 16, 2013 07:28 AM (NF2Bf)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 16, 2013 11:27 AM (aDwsi)
Over here! OVER HERE!
Posted by: Sandra Fluke at October 16, 2013 07:28 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 16, 2013 07:28 AM (aDwsi)
Not that any of you need reminding, but two simple indices of political collapse (of the electorate, of the system as a whole) are on bright display these days: 1) the de facto exemption from the "health care" debacle given to the congressional types and federal workers 2) the idea/concept/terminology of a "budget commission" to work out budget matters.
Both of these illustrate, in different ways, that "it's dead, Jim" WRT our political system and the most important operational aspect of our former constitutional system.
Like so much else in the last few years, the de facto exemption of the nomenklatura via taxpayer subsidy was *politically unthinkable* in the America that existed until recently. The media and constituent rebellion/lynchings would have been instant, and decisive.
As pointed out in another thread this morning by Circa Insert Year Here, the Congress *IS* a "budget commission". That's 90% of its job - for the dim, even the committee structure and names provide a gigantic hint of this fact. I was astonished the first time, when the "Super Committee" nonsense was done. WTF is the congress but a committee mostly devoted to creating budgets?
Anyway, in a chaotic situation a shrewd intel analyst will look for key tell-tales and markers. Those two factoids highlighted above are just that. Inertia is the greatest force of nature and the fact that not everything around us appears like Zimbabwe is attributable - increasingly, almost in its entirety - to inertia. Not to an America where rule of law and an American mindset make it happen.
Posted by: non-purist at October 16, 2013 07:28 AM (afQnV)
Is that what the call it? Kinda sounds like 'tossing the salad'..
Posted by: fred zeppelin at October 16, 2013 07:28 AM (zL/eJ)
Posted by: Jones in CO at October 16, 2013 11:26 AM (8sCoq)
/nods
well played.
Posted by: tangonine at October 16, 2013 07:29 AM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Y-not at October 16, 2013 07:29 AM (5H6zj)
Posted by: grognard at October 16, 2013 07:29 AM (/29Nl)
Chicago needs that...
Posted by: rickb223 at October 16, 2013 11:19 AM (p9JxP)
A common practice in Japan is to arrest a person for improper disposal of a corpse if they can't quickly get together the evidence to support a murder conviction. Promotion in many Japanese law enforcement agencies is often contingent upon how many cases you close and how quickly you close them, so if you want to rise up in the ranks it behooves you to close the easy case ("By stuffing that body in a bag and dumping it in the river you improperly disposed of a corpse") than the hard one ("You murdered that woman because she was having an affair with your best friend.").
There was one incident not too long ago of a British woman who'd gone to Japan to work as an English teacher who was murdered by a Japanese man whom she was tutoring. He managed to escape, barefoot, from his apartment with the cops swarming the place after they found her body stuffed in a bathtub full of sand on his back deck, which is just more proof of why I tend to call the Japanese cops the Keystone Cops of the East. While he was on the run the charge that accompanied his arrest warrant was improper disposal of a corpse, despite the fact it was pretty obvious that he had murdered this girl. They finally caught him years later, but only because her parents back in Britain kept hammering the Japanese law enforcement system to A) look for him, and B) arrest him, and C) charge him with fucking murder.
That's why I take Japan's squeaky clean criminal statistics with a very large spoonful of salt. That's not to say they're a hotbed of violent crime, but they're not a paragon of virtue either.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 16, 2013 07:29 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at October 16, 2013 07:29 AM (da5Wo)
Posted by: Y-not at October 16, 2013 07:29 AM (5H6zj)
Those demands were untenable from the beginning. In negotiation one may float such demands as a strategy or goal, but they are just that. Anyone believing they were actually achievable, isn't worthy of anyone's support.
Posted by: Marcus at October 16, 2013 07:29 AM (GGCsk)
That racist tool Elmo fired is on Fox News.
Posted by: Boss Moss at October 16, 2013 07:30 AM (a6O1A)
Is that what the call it? Kinda sounds like 'tossing the salad'..
Posted by: fred zeppelin at October 16, 2013 11:28 AM (zL/eJ)
"reached a deal" is code for what Ace was GOING to post before 2 hookers, 1 ewok and a bald guy with a limp dragged him back.
Posted by: tangonine at October 16, 2013 07:30 AM (x3YFz)
-- The Expanded Sayings of Johnny Cash.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 16, 2013 07:30 AM (bfAee)
If we just outlaw Heritage's 1st Amendment rights every Republican will clap for Choom and he can FINALLY fly.
//Markos KOOS Zuniga
Posted by: sven10077 at October 16, 2013 07:30 AM (9jfyN)
Nicklefucker vs. Dollarbitch
Posted by: grognard at October 16, 2013 11:25 AM (/29Nl)
I'd pay to see that.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 16, 2013 07:31 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Thunderb at October 16, 2013 07:31 AM (zOTsN)
Posted by: eleven at October 16, 2013 11:30 AM (KXm42)
goddammit I gotta start taking notes. We need work on the adverb though before we start buying billboards.
Posted by: tangonine at October 16, 2013 07:32 AM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Thunderb at October 16, 2013 11:28 AM (zOTsN)
**
She's got to be crestfallen after the fat fuck's performance over that past year.
Then again she is pretty shameless in her book whoring.
Posted by: dananjcon at October 16, 2013 07:32 AM (wmU4G)
Posted by: Talibill at October 16, 2013 07:32 AM (WEWGu)
Posted by: steevy at October 16, 2013 07:32 AM (9XBK2)
Posted by: EC at October 16, 2013 07:32 AM (GQ8sn)
Ann Coulter also used to hump Christie's garbage.
Key words are 'used to' . Ann Coulter has more than enough character to change her opinion if appropriate without worrying about whether it will reflect badly on her or cause her to lose some connections and well placed juice. She is a straight shooter whether you agree with her or not.
Posted by: polynikes at October 16, 2013 07:32 AM (m2CN7)
That was his DAY job...he also moonlighted as Senate Majority Leader in 1985-87
At no time do I recall "hey Tip fuck you I set the Continuing Resolution here buster!"
b/c "law"
Posted by: sven10077 at October 16, 2013 07:33 AM (9jfyN)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 16, 2013 07:33 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 16, 2013 07:33 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Boss Moss at October 16, 2013 07:33 AM (a6O1A)
Posted by: Fritz at October 16, 2013 07:33 AM (UzPAd)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at October 16, 2013 07:33 AM (da5Wo)
I believe gubmint gets the rounding error. Office Space style.
Nickelfucked.
Posted by: grognard at October 16, 2013 07:34 AM (/29Nl)
Well back then you had to shitplate Chrome which really hurt.
Did he wear an onion on his belt or race Vic (stuck in the garage this AM).
Posted by: DaveA at October 16, 2013 07:34 AM (DL2i+)
That Congress cannot think for itself and either blindly ascribes to such foolishness or can't intellectually negotiate these issues on their own shows me these congressman are not worthy of my support.
Posted by: Marcus at October 16, 2013 07:34 AM (GGCsk)
Posted by: steevy at October 16, 2013 11:32 AM (9XBK2)
Yeah that would be like Chamberlin telling Churchill I told you so.
Posted by: polynikes at October 16, 2013 07:34 AM (m2CN7)
Posted by: rickb223 at October 16, 2013 07:34 AM (p9JxP)
Posted by: Boss Moss at October 16, 2013 11:33 AM (a6O1A)
FIFY
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 16, 2013 07:34 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Jones in CO at October 16, 2013 07:34 AM (8sCoq)
Posted by: Boss Moss at October 16, 2013 07:35 AM (a6O1A)
Posted by: Henry II at October 16, 2013 07:35 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Y-not at October 16, 2013 07:35 AM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Boss Moss at October 16, 2013 11:35 AM (a6O1A)
A nickelfuck.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 16, 2013 07:35 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Thunderb at October 16, 2013 07:35 AM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Canadiens at October 16, 2013 07:36 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: rickb223 at October 16, 2013 07:36 AM (p9JxP)
Posted by: Miichael Mann at October 16, 2013 07:36 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Jones in CO at October 16, 2013 07:36 AM (8sCoq)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 16, 2013 07:36 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 16, 2013 07:36 AM (bfAee)
I ask again when has Donkey ever bucked the unions or the NAACP...
I'll wait for as long as it takes to answer Marcus...
"represents its voters" seems to only shackle one part and one side's PACs mi amigo
Posted by: sven10077 at October 16, 2013 07:36 AM (9jfyN)
"get to the choppah nicklefukah!"
Posted by: tangonine at October 16, 2013 07:36 AM (x3YFz)
Posted by: blindside at October 16, 2013 07:37 AM (WzWmY)
And no, obstructionist stunts are NOT all the GOP can do. They could, if they had the intelligence, character, and interest, force their opponents and the press to face facts and constitutional requirements, esp. on the budget process, which has been (in an unprecedented manner) lawless going on 5 years. They could browbeat and humiliate the press on sundry important points like what default is. They could, most importantly, confront the lawlessness of the administration and the Dems (presidential decrees amending laws?). They could - legitimately - milk the F**K out of the jaw-dropping offense to populist common sense represented by the de facto exemption of Hill critters and fed workers from the "health insurance" debacle.
Note that NONE of this has been even tried - going on 5 years now. And this whole ridiculous budget drama has yielded not one single GOP statement or action on a serious matter such as those listed above.
It's dead, Jim.
Posted by: non-purist at October 16, 2013 07:37 AM (afQnV)
Posted by: Talibill at October 16, 2013 07:37 AM (WEWGu)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea at October 16, 2013 11:36 AM (4df7R)
Ok, I LOLed
Posted by: grognard at October 16, 2013 07:37 AM (/29Nl)
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at October 16, 2013 07:37 AM (/kI1Q)
are we at the 'beating nickelfucking the meme like a dead horse' phase yet?
Posted by: Jones in CO at October 16, 2013 11:36 AM (8sCoq)
FIFY
And no.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 16, 2013 07:37 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Y-not at October 16, 2013 07:37 AM (5H6zj)
Canada no longer has the penny. If you pay cash, and your total is above a 5 cent threshold, they round up the total.
I believe gubmint gets the rounding error. Office Space style.
Nickelfucked.
The official policy is to round 1 or 2 cents down, 3 or 4 up. I'm sure there's room for nickelfuckery somewhere, but it's not supposed to work that way.
Posted by: Ron Paul! at October 16, 2013 07:37 AM (NF2Bf)
Posted by: FDR (but not proven) at October 16, 2013 07:37 AM (659DL)
Posted by: NCKate at October 16, 2013 07:38 AM (CV9aS)
It'd be like Leon Lett celebrating with Buffalo after his wrong way TD....
Posted by: sven10077 at October 16, 2013 07:38 AM (9jfyN)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea at October 16, 2013 11:36 AM (4df7R)
Uh... oh hell with it: YEAH!
Posted by: tangonine at October 16, 2013 07:38 AM (x3YFz)
Posted by: rickb223 at October 16, 2013 07:39 AM (p9JxP)
Posted by: steevy at October 16, 2013 07:39 AM (9XBK2)
Ah but see that is the GOOD lobbying....
so there you have it...
when even AllahSquish gets the rights answer is "fuck you" and going to recess the GOP "genius" class will ask "what else would you like TODAY chariman soetoro?"
Posted by: sven10077 at October 16, 2013 07:39 AM (9jfyN)
Posted by: The Political Hat at October 16, 2013 07:39 AM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: Sphynx at October 16, 2013 07:39 AM (OZmbA)
The Democrats actually passed a budget this year (S. Con. Res.
. Text: http://1.usa.gov/16NqFn7
Roll call: http://1.usa.gov/WVGGo8
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at October 16, 2013 07:40 AM (YjDyJ)
Posted by: Miichael Mann at October 16, 2013 07:40 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: BlueStateRebel at October 16, 2013 07:40 AM (7ObY1)
The official policy is to round 1 or 2 cents down, 3 or 4 up. I'm sure there's room for nickelfuckery somewhere, but it's not supposed to work that way.
Yeah, what you said. I meant round to the closest nickel, which means rounding up in some cases. So yeah, blew that one.
Posted by: grognard at October 16, 2013 07:40 AM (/29Nl)
Posted by: NCKate at October 16, 2013 11:38 AM (CV9aS)
Sounds like classic, "What did I say YES to last night!?!?" drunk girl Walk of Shame regret, but she's calling it rape because then people won't point and laugh at her and call her a slut. What epic bullshit.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 16, 2013 07:40 AM (4df7R)
And on to immigration. Bunghole fans, the lot of them.
Bright light all: 88% down in 404Care website hits since start, millenials (relied upon to fund Preezy Cakeboy's legacy) sound like the TP Cat --quoted above--and they would rather game/chat/fap to the 'puter than deal with that steaming pile. Oh, I am sure as well that the hackers are rubbing hands in anticipation of adding chaos to chaos.
Hence, the dicklickers are turning to paper applications. ~smile creasing face~ Wut Loosers (sic). I might run a copy of the application and, to be complete and chary of mistakes, send them a urine and feces sample so they can confirm my identity via their DNA databank and that, as represented, I unfortunately am a smoker and love bacon.
Dollars to Donuts the O-Care fucknuts don't hit a 500,000 total by deadline, let alone the minimum 7 million suckers needed to avoid a financial SMOD of the program. Look for lots of squirrels from the MFM in the coming months.
Posted by: eureka! at October 16, 2013 07:40 AM (hmMJD)
But past "red headed stepchild".
Posted by: rickb223 at October 16, 2013 11:39 AM (p9JxP)
so it's red headed stepchild, then rented mule, THEN dead horse
got it- thnx
Posted by: Jones in CO at October 16, 2013 07:41 AM (8sCoq)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 16, 2013 07:41 AM (bfAee)
I guess I had my 15 minutes.
Posted by: Toasterfucker at October 16, 2013 11:40 AM (NF2Bf)
Yeah, it never lasts.
Posted by: Horsefucker at October 16, 2013 07:41 AM (GQ8sn)
Yes yes they did...thanks John McCain and friends...
basically Reid thinks he is speaker of the house...
and he is right he is because the House refuses to knock his ass off the plate.
Posted by: sven10077 at October 16, 2013 07:41 AM (9jfyN)
I'm going with the idea that it was the EBT caper that sunk the GOPe. And it was brilliant. Don't cut the cards off, make them no limit and scare the crackers when the wilding fun begins.
I haven't had much coffee yet, so there is that too.
Posted by: Meremortal at October 16, 2013 07:41 AM (1Y+hH)
Posted by: mrp at October 16, 2013 07:41 AM (HjPtV)
Posted by: NCKate at October 16, 2013 07:41 AM (CV9aS)
Posted by: Clint Holmes at October 16, 2013 07:42 AM (vH4YP)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 16, 2013 07:42 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: mrp at October 16, 2013 11:41 AM (HjPtV)
Word.
Posted by: Bill Clinton at October 16, 2013 07:42 AM (DrWcr)
Posted by: irright at October 16, 2013 07:42 AM (Ze8oh)
Posted by: Horsefucker at October 16, 2013 11:41 AM (GQ8sn)
I for one, am grateful
Posted by: chickenfucker at October 16, 2013 07:42 AM (m2CN7)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 16, 2013 07:43 AM (bfAee)
Posted by: chickenfucker at October 16, 2013 11:42 AM (m2CN7)
All you guys are getting more action than me!
Posted by: Couchfucker at October 16, 2013 07:43 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: NCKate at October 16, 2013 11:38 AM (CV9aS)
protip: don't have sex when clothed non-participants with camera phones are in the room.
side note: every guy on the planet wants to switch places to experience being *cough* mouth raped by a girl.
Posted by: tangonine at October 16, 2013 07:43 AM (x3YFz)
Posted by: BlueStateRebel at October 16, 2013 07:44 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: Thunderb at October 16, 2013 07:44 AM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Y-not at October 16, 2013 11:35 AM (5H6zj)
Because they might threaten the only things these worthless fuckheads that are supposed to be our representatives care about. Holding onto their seat of power.
And oh yeah, want to bet that plenty of the cowards will have no problem ignoring Heritage and Freedom Works when it comes time for them to ram amnesty down our throats.
Posted by: buzzion at October 16, 2013 07:44 AM (LI48c)
Everything she said.
By the way people, I hope you all realize that Miss80sBaby is arguably one of the two or three most valuable commenters we have on this entire blog. There's spleen, venting, hobo-hunting, and then there's actual solid sober facts.
Posted by: Jeff B. at October 16, 2013 07:45 AM (n/+FT)
All the Nickelfucker comments have me laughing so hard I could bust a gut.
It's from yesterday's traffic commute. I was trying to yell, "Get a move on, knuckle fucker!" but it came out "nickelfucker."
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 16, 2013 07:45 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 16, 2013 11:43 AM (bfAee)
You talking .200 Mendoza Line Mendoza?
Posted by: tangonine at October 16, 2013 07:45 AM (x3YFz)
Posted by: sexypig at October 16, 2013 07:45 AM (dZQh7)
Posted by: Schrödinger's cat ♕ [/i] at October 16, 2013 07:46 AM (U2UQk)
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 16, 2013 07:46 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: gracepmc at October 16, 2013 07:46 AM (rznx3)
Posted by: baldilocks at October 16, 2013 07:46 AM (Tnlh/)
I could have used that in this morning's traffic. WTF was wrong with people today? Apart from the usual nickelfucking Massholery, that is...
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 16, 2013 07:47 AM (knoK7)
Posted by: NCKate at October 16, 2013 07:47 AM (CV9aS)
and he is right he is because the House refuses to knock his ass off the plate.
Well this is basically true so long as certain factions of the House are working at cross-purposes. There's no unity, and those of us who pay a lot of attention to the skullduggery aspect of things suspect that this is intentional on the part of a certain minority with the GOP, working in conjunction with certain outside lobbying groups. That there's a power-play going on here behind the curtain.
Posted by: Jeff B. at October 16, 2013 07:47 AM (n/+FT)
So the 'Deal'... which is ONLY being talked about by SENATORS... ie... a Deal between Reid and the Vichy Repub Senators...
Will be to give the Senate MORE time to do the Job they already should have done? ie... pass the Budget and the Appropriations Bills, some of which sit on Harry Reid's Desk?
The end result of all this, will be so Harry Reid can continue to NOT ALLOW the SENATE to vote on appropriations bills?
THROW THEM ALL OUT!
Posted by: Romeo13 at October 16, 2013 07:47 AM (lZBBB)
Visiting college daughter last week at her dorm. They had several "hip" (Ha! Do people even use that term anymore, even in a derisive manner?) signs posted on the bulletin board on her wing, mostly related to drugs, alcohol, overnight guests OTOS, etc.
One said, "Anyone who has had an alcoholic beverage cannot give consent". I shit you not.
Had to be pushed by the "Dept. of Education"....
Posted by: Tex Lovera at October 16, 2013 07:48 AM (wtvvX)
Posted by: BlueStateRebel at October 16, 2013 07:49 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: Thunderb at October 16, 2013 07:49 AM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Romeo13 at October 16, 2013 11:47 AM (lZBBB)
Perfect analogy! Someone put this guy in for poster of the week.
Posted by: tangonine at October 16, 2013 07:49 AM (x3YFz)
Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami - GO CARDS!!! at October 16, 2013 07:49 AM (bCEmE)
Yet.
Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at October 16, 2013 07:50 AM (YmPwQ)
Go one better switch your registration to "d" and pick the worst commie you can and vote straight ticket D....
I am sick and tired of being "outsmarted" by fucking drooling retards like McCain and slowly going over the cliff....
Thelma/Louise 2016
Posted by: sven10077 at October 16, 2013 07:50 AM (9jfyN)
Posted by: NCKate at October 16, 2013 07:50 AM (CV9aS)
Posted by: Jones in CO at October 16, 2013 07:51 AM (8sCoq)
They had no party to negotiate with, from the beginning.
Posted by: Thunderb at October 16, 2013 11:49 AM (zOTsN)
Well see conservatives doing that and also engaging in some political maneuverings as well just get JeffB's and Miss80's panties all up in a bunch. They're not supposed to do that. They need to wait for their marching orders from Boehner and McConnell and Rove before they can do anything.
Posted by: buzzion at October 16, 2013 07:51 AM (LI48c)
Toasterfucker
Aw. don't worry little toaster. They'll all tire of this flavor-of-the-day "nickle" soon enough, then they'll be enticed back by the sexy glow of your heating element, calling, calling to them in the darkness...
The general who advances without coveting fame and retreats without fearing disgrace, whose only thought is to protect his country and do good service for his sovereign, is the jewel of the kingdom.
Posted by: Sun Tzu - Bronzebanger at October 16, 2013 07:51 AM (NF2Bf)
One of the primary reasons why the Senate Democrats do what they do is because the voters have never held them accountable for anything.
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at October 16, 2013 07:52 AM (YjDyJ)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 16, 2013 07:52 AM (ZPrif)
Well this is basically true so long as certain factions of the House are working at cross-purposes. There's no unity, and those of us who pay a lot of attention to the skullduggery aspect of things suspect that this is intentional on the part of a certain minority with the GOP, working in conjunction with certain outside lobbying groups. That there's a power-play going on here behind the curtain.
Depends on what you value the most. I think the "certain minority" is pretty damn well set against further abuses of principle, and being taken for granted for go-along votes that enable further erosion of liberty.
But if you value working within the system that has repeatedly fucked us more than going around it to actually try to make a change, well, I can see why you'd say that.
Posted by: grognard at October 16, 2013 07:52 AM (/29Nl)
Posted by: Miichael Mann at October 16, 2013 07:53 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Boss Moss at October 16, 2013 07:53 AM (a6O1A)
Why should they, when Mitch McConnell and John McCain are the alternative?
Posted by: grognard at October 16, 2013 07:53 AM (/29Nl)
How can the voters be expected to hold them accountable for anything when the voters see McCain and Graham sucking Reid's dick on every overreach and tomfoolery?
Posted by: sven10077 at October 16, 2013 07:53 AM (9jfyN)
Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at October 16, 2013 07:53 AM (epxV4)
With the promise of a deal, the market is up,up,up. 10 yr is down, dollar is up. It's pure glee. The Media will yell Happy Days are Here Again while Rome begins to catch fire.
Posted by: DailyDish at October 16, 2013 07:54 AM (+b3dK)
Hope you liked the seat, John, for what little time you'll have left in it...
Posted by: fred zeppelin at October 16, 2013 07:54 AM (zL/eJ)
Posted by: Barky at October 16, 2013 07:55 AM (aDwsi)
You can have my horsemanbaby when you pry it from my cold dead nicklefucking hands.
Posted by: eleven at October 16, 2013 07:55 AM (KXm42)
Great minds think alike Grognard.
Flush twice for the McCain gang.
I would rather have the democrats have total control than enable another Cholo d'Ocho or Dias or Quatro or whatever the fuck McCain says this week.
Primary their asses and failing that straight ticket D
Posted by: sven10077 at October 16, 2013 07:55 AM (9jfyN)
Moyers did a piece recently on PBS about the great right-wing conspiracy run by Edwin Meese through the Heritage Foundation. It is the most eye-popping nonsense I have seen since, well, forever.
Just a reminder to those who do not have Chicago connections: Richie Daley used his storm troopers to vandalize Meigs Field in the middle of the night -- his very own parks and streets brownshirts. Please do not forget how many of the Chicago types are in this administration.
Posted by: Mustbequantum at October 16, 2013 07:55 AM (MIKMs)
Posted by: sven10077 at October 16, 2013 11:50 AM (9jfyN)
Crap..... who was that Democrat semi homeless guy who got on the Ballot last election???
Alvin Greene???
New Meme..... we would not be IN this Mess, ifn Alvin was in the Senate!
Posted by: Romeo13 at October 16, 2013 07:55 AM (lZBBB)
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 16, 2013 07:55 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 16, 2013 07:56 AM (a4Omg)
Playing to lose isn't acting like an opposition party.
Right now they're a quarterback who throws a Hail Mary incomplete pass every single play, then whines when the coach pulls his ass off the field for being an idiot.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 16, 2013 07:56 AM (SY2Kh)
OK, that one made me laugh so hard, I choked.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 16, 2013 11:55 AM (zF6Iw)
"You're one ugly nicklefuckah!"
Posted by: EC at October 16, 2013 07:56 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at October 16, 2013 07:57 AM (RZ8pf)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 16, 2013 07:57 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at October 16, 2013 11:52 AM (YjDyJ)
One of the primary reasons why the Senate Democrats do what they do is because they know that little bitch pussies that lead the Republicans in the house will keep sending bill after bill with better terms to them and then cave when they let it go to crisis.
Posted by: buzzion at October 16, 2013 07:57 AM (LI48c)
Bingo.....
I'd rather have Alvin Greene up there than Lindsay Graham and I am not kidding.
Posted by: sven10077 at October 16, 2013 07:57 AM (9jfyN)
Posted by: aic4ever at October 16, 2013 07:58 AM (S7OJd)
Posted by: rickb223 at October 16, 2013 07:58 AM (p9JxP)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 16, 2013 11:56 AM (SY2Kh)
That incomplete pass has no hope of reaching the receiver if the QB's teammates are leaping into the air to bat it down before it has a chance to hit its intended target.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 16, 2013 07:58 AM (4df7R)
Why? Explain to me what your disillusion stems from. I mean in a methodical sense. What goal did you want to see accomplished that wasn't?
If it was "defunding Obamacare" or somesuch, I would hope you'd have understood at this point that this was never, ever possible. Ever. Even many of the more august personages on this here moronblog who were pushing for a shutdown (like DrewM., or Ace, or EoJ, etc.) were willing to admit that this was impossible, it was just rhetoric. So the failure to "stop Obamacare" cannot be the source of your disillusion.
If it was the failure to get much of ANYTHING in this deal in return for having incurred the pain of shutting down the government, well then I agree. But as you said, the fault there is more because of disunity within the GOP caucus -- and particularly lobbying from outside groups -- than anything else. Have you been reading the news on this? Boehner had a stronger deal ready to go yesterday -- including the full Vitter amendment. It would have passed with the GOP, would have put Reid on the spot, would have most likely won. (Reid wasn't going to block that or Obama veto it.)
But then late in the day Heritage Action and FreedomWorks came out and said "we will score this vote against you and run primary ads against you if you vote for it, because YOU MUST DEFUND OBAMACARE." And the members that were on the fence wobbled and fell off again. Forcing us to simply take whatever the Senate came up with and pass it in the House with Democrat votes.
Whose fault is that? We ended up with a weaker deal than we could've gotten, but it isn't because of the "Establishment" or Boehner et al. It's because of the outside lobbying groups, whose stated purpose (i.e. "you must defund Obamacare!" we already know to be silly rhetoric). Therefore their real purpose had to be something else, and it's not hard to figure out what it is: flexing their muscles and disillusioning people in the base.
(As an aside there is a very popular conspiracy theory running around GOP circles right now -- ask Miss80sBaby about it! -- that the behavior of Heritage Action and FW in intentionally scotching yesterday's deal with the knowledge that it would force Boehner to settle for a weaker one was all about a pre-planned powerplay between factions within the House caucus who are trying to topple Boehner and replace him. Palace intrigue, in other words. Conspiracy theories are just that -- fire can't melt steel and whatnot -- so take it with heavy doses of salt. But I'll admit I've been turning it over in my head.)
Posted by: Jeff B. at October 16, 2013 07:58 AM (n/+FT)
Posted by: Inspector Asshole at October 16, 2013 07:58 AM (/cq36)
1) Lots of casual drug and alcohol use.
2) Lots of casual sex
3) A no-tolerance rape paranoia atmosphere that says any sex that involves any amount of alcohol or drugs was rape.
These 3 things cannot co-exist successfully.
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 16, 2013 11:52 AM (ZPrif)
Believe it or not the kids I teach detest this behavior. Openly complain about other students who live in the dorms and muck like fonkeys.
Granted, most of them and EE, ME, Physics or Bio majors. But they have open contempt for silliness.
Pretty good kids, all in all. I'm proud of too many of them to list over the years.
These kids are no different than you and I were at that age: they want to succeed.
And I did some crazy shit as a young troop. Thank god no one had invented the camera phone back then.
Posted by: tangonine at October 16, 2013 07:59 AM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Zombie Shepherd, lost flock, lost dog, not much else to lose at October 16, 2013 08:00 AM (tfSla)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 16, 2013 08:00 AM (aDwsi)
Did Ace dump (fill in the blank if you don't like dump) like a champ?
Oh and MWR excellent analysis on the "hail Mary" scenario.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 16, 2013 08:00 AM (HVff2)
Posted by: t-bird at October 16, 2013 08:01 AM (FcR7P)
Posted by: tangonine at October 16, 2013 11:59 AM (x3YFz)
Crazier than....jumping off a roof, naked, with a bundle of toilet paper in your ass and on fire?
That image is seared, SEARED, into my brain.
Posted by: EC at October 16, 2013 08:02 AM (GQ8sn)
Ah so the "medical device" tax is the fulcrum point of the GOP Congress...
not Vitter no sir but the Medical Device tax....
you know what I am disillusioned because the protected blogger is dipping his balls in a pudding cup b/c Obama won and Obama won b/c of a combination of McCain/McConnell and the M$M and "cooler heads" tell me we can't fix problem 2 and I am evil for wanting to fix problem 1....
so I am finally ready to fix John McCain being the one to fuck me by making it superfluous as to whether McCain wakes up GOP or donkey by shrugging.
Fuck the GOP who refuses to see Ogabe is the opfor.
Posted by: sven10077 at October 16, 2013 08:02 AM (9jfyN)
Posted by: sexypig at October 16, 2013 08:02 AM (dZQh7)
I scored 70% Uhura, 60% Picard, and 55% Anonymous Redshirt.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 16, 2013 08:03 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: polynikes at October 16, 2013 08:03 AM (m2CN7)
Posted by: t-bird at October 16, 2013 12:01 PM (FcR7P)
Not sure, but they need you down on the away mission.
Posted by: EC at October 16, 2013 08:03 AM (GQ8sn)
Granted, most of them and EE, ME, Physics or Bio majors. But they have open contempt for silliness.
Posted by: tangonine at October 16, 2013 11:59 AM (x3YFz)
I sense a little "Nerd can't get any action so action is stupid" attitude there.
Posted by: Sphynx at October 16, 2013 08:03 AM (OZmbA)
Not that long ago, Heritage, FreedomWorks, and the rest placed policy above power. They helped congressional Republicans craft policy while holding Republicans' feet to the fire. But they recently decided that power and money and helping their friends in Congress ascend the ladder is more important than doing their job.
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at October 16, 2013 08:03 AM (YjDyJ)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 16, 2013 11:56 AM (a4Omg)
Play like the left, vote early, vote often. What could happen? A slap on the wrist, not if you are wearing an O t-shirt. Fuck with their minds.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 16, 2013 08:03 AM (HVff2)
One of the primary reasons why the Senate Democrats do what they do is because the voters GOP have never held them accountable for anything.
This too.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 16, 2013 08:03 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 16, 2013 08:04 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Tex Lovera at October 16, 2013 08:04 AM (wtvvX)
Posted by: Romeo13 at October 16, 2013 12:03 PM (lZBBB)
and 80%...
Next was Picard.... but I have way too much Hair....
Posted by: Romeo13 at October 16, 2013 08:04 AM (lZBBB)
Posted by: brak at October 16, 2013 08:04 AM (NaTky)
He and the Swell Truck Driver are gonna enjoy their new and improved GOP....
it's a small tent but VERY "fiscally conservative" and "big tent social"
Posted by: sven10077 at October 16, 2013 08:05 AM (9jfyN)
That image is seared, SEARED, into my brain.
Posted by: EC at October 16, 2013 12:02 PM (GQ8sn)
two quick points, if I may? "seared into my brain" when describing flaming toilet paper in your ass is going to elicit some raised hands from the audience.
second: I can outdo that with 1 wall locker, 1 hanger, an all-weather coat and two extremely naked girls and cupcakes.
Posted by: tangonine at October 16, 2013 08:05 AM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Countrysquire at October 16, 2013 08:05 AM (LSJmV)
Posted by: brak at October 16, 2013 08:05 AM (NaTky)
Posted by: Tex Lovera at October 16, 2013 12:03 PM (wtvvX)
OK..... then.... as one Redshirt to another???
You go first....
Posted by: Romeo13 at October 16, 2013 08:06 AM (lZBBB)
not Vitter no sir but the Medical Device tax....
Actually, the deal that Boehner had worked out yesterday would have KEPT the medical device tax in place (bowing to the concerns of Tea Party conservatives in the caucus that it represented a concession to businesses whilst leaving the average joe still stuck in the shit) whilst IMPOSING the full Vitter amendment. So it would have given you exactly what you wanted on these two points.
Instead, the deal we're getting now, because Heritage and FW scotched that one, is going to be the exact opposite.
So, again: whose fault is this? Boehner would have been able to pass a better deal last night, and now we have to take a worse one. It's not the GOP Establishment that did this. Not everything is their fault, man.
Posted by: Jeff B. at October 16, 2013 08:06 AM (n/+FT)
His response was the standard one. "Win elections."
Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at October 16, 2013 08:06 AM (YmPwQ)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 16, 2013 08:06 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: sexypig at October 16, 2013 08:06 AM (dZQh7)
Posted by: Mainah at October 16, 2013 08:06 AM (659DL)
Is that it?
Because from where I sit all they are trying to do is get the sellout uber alles crowd out of power and I see NOTHING wrong with that.
If the Heritage Foundation is now the "enemy" and the democrats are our "Good friends across the aisle" then I am done.
Posted by: sven10077 at October 16, 2013 08:06 AM (9jfyN)
That we have to play their game to win it, go along with their plan, when the game just destroys liberty and props up the elite.
Fuck. that.
Posted by: grognard at October 16, 2013 08:06 AM (/29Nl)
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at October 16, 2013 12:03 PM (YjDyJ)
You mean they're not content to be the meek little back benchers you want them to be. Just merely allowing the worthless Republicans that you want to always cave to the democrats to keep getting away with it. How dare they engage in politcal actions.
Posted by: buzzion at October 16, 2013 08:07 AM (LI48c)
Posted by: Countrysquire at October 16, 2013 08:07 AM (LSJmV)
Posted by: Sphynx at October 16, 2013 12:03 PM (OZmbA)
your sense-o-meter needs a tune up.
Posted by: tangonine at October 16, 2013 08:07 AM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at October 16, 2013 08:07 AM (659DL)
Posted by: Caliban at October 16, 2013 08:08 AM (DrC22)
Oh goodie, a thread with JeffB and Hollowpoint, providing political education.
And here I thought I was going to go a day without JeffB and Hollowpoint providing political education.
Today is a day to rejoice, indeed.
Posted by: BurtTC at October 16, 2013 08:08 AM (TOk1P)
I was one of the first when I got back to posting to say the GOP couldn't "win" much but dirtying up SCOAMF's "Uh I am er ah above it all" cred...and we were winning on that front by Ogabe footbulleting himself until of course the AMIGO GRANDE! GOP Senate added their voice to Reid's....
I'd be HAPPIER if we only had 31 Senators right now.
Posted by: sven10077 at October 16, 2013 08:08 AM (9jfyN)
Yeah, he would say that. His boss certainly didn't do shit to roll back Leviathan, and he HAD BOTH HOUSES.
Posted by: grognard at October 16, 2013 08:08 AM (/29Nl)
That we have to play their game to win it, go along with their plan, when the game just destroys liberty and props up the elite.
Fuck. that.
Posted by: grognard at October 16, 2013 12:06 PM (/29Nl)
with reference to Jeff B's comments?
Posted by: tangonine at October 16, 2013 08:08 AM (x3YFz)
Posted by: tangonine at October 16, 2013 12:07 PM (x3YFz)
No, just need some action.
Posted by: Sphynx at October 16, 2013 08:08 AM (OZmbA)
Posted by: Zombie Shepherd, lost flock, lost dog, not much else to lose at October 16, 2013 08:08 AM (tfSla)
Posted by: sexypig at October 16, 2013 08:09 AM (dZQh7)
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes at October 16, 2013 08:09 AM (kXoT0)
Also I prefer Red-tunic thank you.
Posted by: eleven at October 16, 2013 08:09 AM (KXm42)
Posted by: Jesse Pinkman, PhD Bitches! at October 16, 2013 08:09 AM (shXYq)
Posted by: sexypig at October 16, 2013 12:06 PM (dZQh7)
The only reason we are not winning is because some on our side are ready to surrender at the mere thought of what might conceivably could happen.
Posted by: polynikes at October 16, 2013 08:10 AM (m2CN7)
Didn't some Central American country just open up a 'free zone' vis a
vis pre-1999 Hong Kong? That could be an interesting migration
destination.
Posted by: Sphynx at October 16, 2013 11:05 AM (OZmbA)
Two words: "mosquitos" and "malaria."
Posted by: tangonine at October 16, 2013 11:09 AM (x3YFz)
Two words: "quinine" and "gin"
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 16, 2013 08:10 AM (TIIx5)
Wait, is this a joke? How come I've stopped this? Um, dude, I stopped it because you and others said it was rude and unproductive and I agreed with you that it was uncalled for. That's why. And that's a problem?
Polynikes, this is literally one of the most incoherent things I've ever read from you. I received a lot of criticism from you and others for being too inflammatory and rude a couple of weeks ago. I took that advice to heart. Maybe you haven't noticed, but I've made it a point to try and remove the attacks and insults and nastiness from my posts since then, precisely because I didn't want to be a jerk.
And you're criticizing me for this? That's literally inconceivable. I would submit that you're just looking for any reason to attack. If I'm "name calling" and "too rude," well then attack me for that. If I'm striving mightily to be polite and measured, well then...attack me for not being rude anymore? Huh?
Posted by: Jeff B. at October 16, 2013 08:10 AM (n/+FT)
Posted by: tangonine at October 16, 2013 12:08 PM (x3YFz)
Yes, among others here and on Twitter.
The system is a failed and corrupt system. I sure as hell don't appreciate being told I need to suck it up and work within it.
Posted by: grognard at October 16, 2013 08:11 AM (/29Nl)
Not that long ago, Heritage, FreedomWorks, and the rest placed policy above power. They helped congressional Republicans craft policy while holding Republicans' feet to the fire. But they recently decided that power and money and helping their friends in Congress ascend the ladder is more important than doing their job.
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at October 16, 2013 12:03 PM (YjDyJ)
Straight from Moyers article. The vast "right wing" conspiracy.
Posted by: Mustbequantum at October 16, 2013 08:11 AM (MIKMs)
Posted by: Sandra Fluke at October 16, 2013 08:11 AM (RD7QR)
Two words,
Tequila, Senorita and YOLO
(give me a break I've been Sober 14 years)
Posted by: sven10077 at October 16, 2013 08:11 AM (9jfyN)
Posted by: Zombie Shepherd, lost flock, lost dog, not much else to lose at October 16, 2013 08:12 AM (tfSla)
Posted by: sexypig at October 16, 2013 08:12 AM (dZQh7)
Posted by: joncelli at October 16, 2013 12:11 PM (RD7QR)
Ewww. I hope you dropped it in the washing machine when you were done.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 16, 2013 08:12 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: awkward davies at October 16, 2013 08:12 AM (WK8VM)
Correct...
if ONLY the Heritage guys and Freedom Verks vere verbotten from interfering in politics unlike zay Zoros und dad Koch brozers mein fruend...
Posted by: sven10077 at October 16, 2013 08:12 AM (9jfyN)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 16, 2013 08:12 AM (ZPrif)
second: I can outdo that with 1 wall locker, 1 hanger, an all-weather coat and two extremely naked girls and cupcakes.
Posted by: tangonine at October 16, 2013 12:05 PM (x3YFz)
>
>
>Ok, I now need to see the video of this one!
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 16, 2013 08:13 AM (HVff2)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at October 16, 2013 08:13 AM (0HooB)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at October 16, 2013 08:14 AM (659DL)
Except that's not what's happening- it never had a chance anyways.
The Gang of Cruz managed to self-marginalize conservatives, leaving a vacuum for the moderates to fill while the Dems sit back and watch the GOP fight amongst themselves.
All because a faction of reactionary, over-emotional idiots decided that they wouldn't settle for anything short of a non-existent Rainbow Unicorn Pony.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 16, 2013 08:14 AM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes at October 16, 2013 12:09 PM (kXoT0)
There's always Jadzia Dax.
Posted by: EC at October 16, 2013 08:14 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 16, 2013 12:12 PM (ZPrif)
Yes? And? My point was not that a Hail Mary is guaranteed to succeed, but rather that it is certain to fail when your own team deliberately blocks it.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 16, 2013 08:16 AM (4df7R)
Have fun storming the castle with John Boehner and Mitch McConnell leading the charge with fire in their belly and blood in their eyes.
Like I said Amnesty by Xmas and Speaker Pelosi by Valentine's Day 2015....
YOU stop the retards with matches and gasoline...
I am getting the house ready with a firebreak.
Posted by: sven10077 at October 16, 2013 08:16 AM (9jfyN)
All because a faction of reactionary, over-emotional idiots decided that they wouldn't settle for anything short of a non-existent Rainbow Unicorn Pony.
Who needs the Dems with friends like this?
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 16, 2013 08:17 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: sexypig at October 16, 2013 08:17 AM (dZQh7)
OK, this is totally off topic, (what topic?), but I think a winning strategy for the LOOONG game is to win over the LIVs. I think what made Reagan successful was his ability to communicate with the unwashed, to charm them, to feed them politics without their knowing it was politics.
Win the LIVs by salesmanship and charm, not by logic. Emotion, appearance, charm. Long game.
(I know, I know, meanwhile Rome is burning.)
Posted by: Sphynx at October 16, 2013 08:17 AM (OZmbA)
Posted by: Dr. Hasseldorf at October 16, 2013 08:17 AM (YmPwQ)
I know which one I prefer, Hollowpoint. How about you?
Posted by: mrp at October 16, 2013 08:17 AM (HjPtV)
Self-marginalize?
Before that man even opened his mouth, he had a cadre of assholes like you on Twitter and blogs taking the pipe to his knees. People that couldn't stand someone going outside of their proprietary conventional wisdom. Something that threatened the status quo if it wasn't quickly trashed and ridiculed.
You, among others Alinskied your. own. side. Go fuck yourself.
Posted by: grognard at October 16, 2013 08:17 AM (/29Nl)
JeffB your logic does not hold water. Boehner doesn't have to do anything, putting Reid bill on the floor is surrender - he should hand the gavel over to a page. Call DeMint, make a deal and pass a bill with some partial roll back of Obamacare and the Vitter Amendment (I woud expand the Vitter Amendment to include the SCOTUS)..
Posted by: Jean at October 16, 2013 08:17 AM (CMlD4)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea at October 16, 2013 12:16 PM (4df7R)
Or when they are demanding that you don't even play the game and forfeit. And when you do play the game and lose they are cheering louder than the opponents and shouting "See we told you we shouldn't have even played!"
Posted by: buzzion at October 16, 2013 08:17 AM (LI48c)
Posted by: Zombie Shepherd, lost flock, lost dog, not much else to lose at October 16, 2013 08:18 AM (tfSla)
They did their absolute best to sabotage *anything* the house tried to do. Running for the cameras screaming "Woe is us! Those evil conservatives in our party are ruining for our Tee-Times with the dickhead-in-chief".
Feel free to continue thinking that being all moderate is the way to go. How about this, asshole, go vote democrat from now on. It suits you better than whatever the hell it is you claim to be right now.
Posted by: GMan at October 16, 2013 08:18 AM (sxq57)
Posted by: ObamaNaut at October 16, 2013 08:18 AM (wAQA5)
Listen: I can understand you not wanting to read people arrogantly telling you you're an idiot and fool and that your tiny pea brain cannot comprehend the complexities of DC politics blah blah blah.
I've done that in the past. Done far too much of it, in fact. It was stupid, unhelpful, wrong, and self-defeating. I've actually made a conscious decision to try and reform, change my commenting ways, so that I'm not falling into that 'reflex' anymore. You were right. You guys were right about that, and you've convinced me to try and be a better person around here.
But...but...if your argument is simply "get these dissenting opinions out of my sight, I do not want to have to see them!" then I'm sorry. No. Not cool. This isn't the Daily Kos, where you can 'downvote' dissenting opinions out of existence until their comments become invisible and the person making them is banned. We're conservatives, we're not liberal fascists. We're better than that. You are, I am, we all are.
Posted by: Jeff B. at October 16, 2013 08:19 AM (n/+FT)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at October 16, 2013 08:19 AM (659DL)
Posted by: Countrysquire at October 16, 2013 08:19 AM (LSJmV)
Posted by: joncelli at October 16, 2013 12:11 PM (RD7QR)
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Posted by: Public Service Anouncement at October 16, 2013 08:19 AM (lZBBB)
The Gang of Cruz managed to self-marginalize conservatives, leaving a vacuum for the moderates to fill while the Dems sit back and watch the GOP fight amongst themselves.
Well that's a cute little strawman. Care to explain where you draw this conclusion? Conservatives are going to be the only GOPers left after 2014. Far from self-marginalizing they will instead take over the Party of the 'Pubbies.
And yeah, I know that that means the fucking Demonrats will have majorities in Congress and the Presidency. As has been pointed out many times, how is that any different from what we have now?
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 16, 2013 08:19 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: awkward davies at October 16, 2013 08:19 AM (WK8VM)
Posted by: sexypig at October 16, 2013 08:20 AM (dZQh7)
Posted by: Jmel at October 16, 2013 08:20 AM (cfFqn)
Posted by: gracepmc at October 16, 2013 08:20 AM (rznx3)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea at October 16, 2013 12:16 PM (4df7R)
They continually ignore that point. What make's me postal more is that besides ignoring the fact that certain factions have done their best to sabotage this strategy, that they seem genuinely happy that its not going well so they can think they have been proven right.
Posted by: polynikes at October 16, 2013 08:20 AM (m2CN7)
Cruz campaigned on and was elected to fight Obamacare.
He has done so.
By all means, ravage him!
Posted by: GOPe at October 16, 2013 08:20 AM (1Y+hH)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 16, 2013 08:21 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Jean at October 16, 2013 08:21 AM (CMlD4)
And here I thought I was going to go a day without JeffB and Hollowpoint providing political education.
Oh, don't you worry. I fully understand that most of you are drooling imbeciles incapable of being educated. It would be easier teaching algebra to a poodle.
No, I'm mostly here to gloat over the fact I was right (again), and most of you were (as usual) wrong.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 16, 2013 08:21 AM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: sexypig at October 16, 2013 08:22 AM (dZQh7)
Posted by: packsoldier at October 16, 2013 08:22 AM (L9/C8)
Posted by: reality man at October 16, 2013 08:22 AM (Cs9Ps)
Posted by: RWC at October 16, 2013 08:22 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: sexypig at October 16, 2013 08:22 AM (dZQh7)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 16, 2013 08:23 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: rickl at October 16, 2013 08:23 AM (zoehZ)
Once again, I do not have a problem with these outside groups doing their job. If they have good reasons for opposing legislation, they should voice those concerns. But that is not what happened here. If you look at the coordinated efforts of these outside groups and two conservative websites, their closest connections inside Congress, and how said members have behaved throughout, you will see that these outside groups were at least partially motivated by a desire to settle old scores, both now and in 2014. They went so far as to side with the Administration and congressional Democrats last night. Unacceptable.
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at October 16, 2013 08:23 AM (YjDyJ)
I feel a little smaller, that's the only thing bothering me.
But the party invites are rolling in!
Posted by: GOPe at October 16, 2013 08:24 AM (1Y+hH)
No, I'm mostly here to gloat over the fact I was right (again), and most of you were (as usual) wrong.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 16, 2013 12:21 PM (SY2Kh)
I've seen a picture of you. I wouldn't be gloating over anything.
Posted by: polynikes at October 16, 2013 08:24 AM (m2CN7)
Posted by: grognard at October 16, 2013 12:11 PM (/29Nl)
I don't twatter or FacePlant, so not sure on that side.
Don't take it personally. Some folks don't understand that it's not about them. Get some chow and ammo in the tent behind me.
Posted by: tangonine at October 16, 2013 08:24 AM (x3YFz)
No, I'm mostly here to gloat over the fact I was right (again), and most of you were (as usual) wrong.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 16, 2013 12:21 PM (SY2Kh
Poor little man Hollowpoint. Are you still upset that the Republicans in the house took away your claim that Cruz was doing all this solely for fundraising when they went and tried fundraising off it as well.
Having more joy at this than the Democrats sure is becoming.
Posted by: buzzion at October 16, 2013 08:24 AM (LI48c)
If nothing else the shutdown has helped to separate the wheat from the chaff in the Republican party, the sellouts from the rest. The Democrats get everything want with those Republicans who are just going along to get along. In other words, nothing much changes. It's time for a third party.
Posted by: Foul Harold at October 16, 2013 08:25 AM (m/WmK)
I call bullshit on that ST quiz. Me as Picard??????? The fuck?
I'd rather be a nice red-shirted piece of cannon fodder hiding in the ventilation ducts every time the captain announces an away mission.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 16, 2013 08:25 AM (TIIx5)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 16, 2013 08:25 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: sexypig at October 16, 2013 08:25 AM (dZQh7)
Geordi LaForge and what does this mean!!??
Posted by: dananjcon at October 16, 2013 08:25 AM (wmU4G)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 16, 2013 12:21 PM (SY2Kh)
Yes.... because betting on Beltway Republicans to surrender, is a VERY good Bet...
Hard to be wrong when you know the Track record of the GOP... and say they will surrender....
Some of us were hoping for more...
Posted by: Romeo13 at October 16, 2013 08:26 AM (lZBBB)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 16, 2013 08:26 AM (4df7R)
I'm somewhere in between the Tea Party and Establishment, I have no home.
I think people like McCain and Graham need to go, but I also think there's a dingbat wing that's just as spineless as the RINOs, they're worried instead about some sort of O'Donnell dingbat primarying them so they just basically hand the keys to Reid and Obama because taking your ball home is not winning.
Posted by: McAdams at October 16, 2013 08:26 AM (g686k)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 16, 2013 08:26 AM (ZPrif)
@JonEasley Heritage Action CEO opposed Boehner bill yesterday b/c it didn't defund, today says "everybody understands" we can't repeal until 2017
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at October 16, 2013 08:26 AM (YjDyJ)
Posted by: Davy Crocket with a Saiga 12, bitch at October 16, 2013 08:26 AM (tfSla)
Posted by: awkward davies at October 16, 2013 08:26 AM (WK8VM)
Posted by: BlueStateRebel at October 16, 2013 08:27 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: polynikes at October 16, 2013 08:27 AM (m2CN7)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here)--also drooling imbecile incapable of doing algebra or something at October 16, 2013 08:27 AM (659DL)
Posted by: sexypig at October 16, 2013 08:28 AM (dZQh7)
Geordi LaForge and what does this mean!!??
Posted by: dananjcon at October 16, 2013 12:25 PM (wmU4G)
You're the black, blind guy who flew the Enterprise the first couple of seasons.
Hahahaha....
Posted by: EC at October 16, 2013 08:28 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: BlueStateRebel at October 16, 2013 12:27 PM (7ObY1)
And probably one hell of a money maker...calling Sandy Fluke, your new career awaits. Pay off those student loans in one month.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes at October 16, 2013 08:28 AM (kXoT0)
Geordi LaForge and what does this mean!!??
It means you use terms like "subspace" and "phase modulation" alot.
And you're blind.
Posted by: eleven at October 16, 2013 08:28 AM (KXm42)
Posted by: Brother Cavil at October 16, 2013 08:28 AM (naUcP)
Geordi LaForge and what does this mean!!??
Posted by: dananjcon at October 16, 2013 12:25 PM (wmU4G)
He's the Engineer on The Next Generation. He was blind and wore the Vizor that would help him see. Basically it means you're probably a sciencey mechanical type that wears glasses/contacts.
Posted by: buzzion at October 16, 2013 08:29 AM (LI48c)
C'mon now.
Know what else is useless? Trying to have a polite debate with reactionary fools who are unwilling to acknowledge the obvious.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 16, 2013 08:29 AM (SY2Kh)
No I appreciate it.
The split ain't gonna happen all on its own and I am ready for it.
America wanted Obamacare I say every American should get it.
The House GOP and Senate disagree with me and say everyone but Ogabe's BFFs and their aides should get it but I digress...
and I am about to depart.
Posted by: sven10077 at October 16, 2013 08:29 AM (9jfyN)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 16, 2013 12:21 PM (SY2Kh)
I've fucked up online but I've never fucked up THAT bad.
WOW
Is today the day you decided to retire from the internet? Fuckin' hope so because the -making friends- department just sent out a memo that said you're truly fucked. Forever.
Posted by: tangonine at October 16, 2013 08:29 AM (x3YFz)
Posted by: t-bird at October 16, 2013 08:29 AM (FcR7P)
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at October 16, 2013 08:29 AM (PMGbu)
Posted by: Brother Cavil at October 16, 2013 08:30 AM (naUcP)
And yeah, I know that that means the fucking Demonrats will have majorities in Congress and the Presidency. As has been pointed out many times, how is that any different from what we have now?
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea at October 16, 2013 12:19 PM (4df7R)
Excellent point.
Posted by: rickl at October 16, 2013 12:23 PM (zoehZ)
And even sadder? How is it different than when the Repubs had the House, Senate, and Presidency under Bush?
We STILL expanded Government power, and spending.... just in different ways.
Posted by: Romeo13 at October 16, 2013 08:30 AM (lZBBB)
Again, this.
Look: just because people find the 'inside baseball' angle to discussing what's going inside the House GOP right now to be distasteful -- and I understand the opinion of folks like grognard and t9, because seriously why the hell should they have to care, whatever happened to the actual issues? -- does not mean that it's not a very real element. Surprise, surprise: conservative politicians (even the very conservative ones who are 'right' with us here in active base) are human beings prone to every human failing that affects other humans. Factionalism, petty intrigue, self-serving behavior...you name it. The Establishment bigwigs are capable of it, and the Tea Party conservatives are capable of it. There ain't but one perfect man that ever walked the face of this earth, and they nailed Him to a plank of wood.
Posted by: Jeff B. at October 16, 2013 08:30 AM (n/+FT)
Posted by: reality man at October 16, 2013 08:30 AM (Cs9Ps)
Posted by: Countrysquire at October 16, 2013 08:30 AM (LSJmV)
Posted by: GMan at October 16, 2013 08:30 AM (sxq57)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 16, 2013 12:29 PM (SY2Kh) [/i]
We've all acknowledged the obvious many times. The 'Pubbies are a useless party full of spineless wimps who will turn on their own rather than disrupt the status quo.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 16, 2013 08:30 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here)--also drooling imbecile incapable of doing algebra or something at October 16, 2013 08:30 AM (659DL)
The vast majority of Repubs House members want to get this vote over -- even if many of them will vote no.
In other words, they're scared of the big, bad MFM. Cowardly nickelfuckers, the lot of them.
Here's a tactic that could have been tried - pass a budget. Drop it on Reid's desk. Hold a press conference. "We've passed a budget. As soon as Reid takes his chancre-ridden drippy weiner dick out of a Cub Scout's ass, maybe he'll pass it. We did our job. We're going home. Fuck you very much."
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 16, 2013 08:30 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: Sgt. Fury at October 16, 2013 08:31 AM (Amk6p)
Because freedom is hard.
And they paid in to the Social Security and Medicare, damn it and it theirs, by gawd.
What's sad is they think the smart play is we're going to somehow fund this multi-trillion dollars of debt with the perpetual brilliance of their nuclear minds or something.
Because I've been told it's crazy, irrational and insane to think that there is no fucking way in the world any of this money will ever be paid.
Posted by: RoyalOil at October 16, 2013 08:31 AM (VjL9S)
Yup...Nanzi Pelosuy's moderation sure helped get Ogabe in 2008 didn't it...
Oh wait only OUR side needs to moderate to win because the newsies will you know acknowledge the truth that I have not been happy with the Party's bullshit since 1988 instead of you know saying "Arch Conservative Susan Collins today..."
fuck reality it can run the world without me.
Posted by: sven10077 at October 16, 2013 08:31 AM (9jfyN)
Posted by: Blacksheep at October 16, 2013 08:32 AM (8/DeP)
Ace probably doesn't remember, but he wrote the definitive statement on all of this a few years back.
It was along the lines of, "It's really all over, and we should just try to enjoy ourselves as much as possible with whatever little time we have left."
So, I'm going flyfishing.
Posted by: Meremortal at October 16, 2013 08:32 AM (1Y+hH)
Know what else is useless? Trying to have a polite debate with reactionary fools who are unwilling to acknowledge the obvious.
Then why are you here? There are numerous other sites that may be more to your liking. Why don't you exercise your personal freedom to go there?
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at October 16, 2013 08:32 AM (0HooB)
My regret is not that we played, but the way that we played. Killing the latest House offer was a mistake.
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at October 16, 2013 08:32 AM (YjDyJ)
From now on, only Conservatives get my votes and money. Squishes just can't help being squishy. So to hack with them.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes at October 16, 2013 08:32 AM (kXoT0)
Posted by: packsoldier at October 16, 2013 12:22 PM (L9/C
Nothing's going to cheer my black heart as much as the whines from assholes like you when the GOP gets its ass handed to it next year.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 16, 2013 08:32 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: Jean at October 16, 2013 08:32 AM (CMlD4)
Like Kos, or DU. I'm convinced he's actually from one of them.
Posted by: GMan at October 16, 2013 08:33 AM (sxq57)
---
Next up, Darth Bamster says it's immigration reform, another unloseable issue we will lose on.
P.S. A couple of interesting things on the Blaze. Students at an Ivy League university know nothing, and I mean nothing, about the Holocaust. Also, check out the Halloween "decorations" that is causing 911 calls.
Posted by: WalrusRex at October 16, 2013 08:33 AM (Hx5uv)
If I thought people here were "reactionary fools who are unwilling to acknowledge the obvious" then I wouldn't waste my time. You do realize that, right? This ISN'T like the old joke about the bear and the hunter ("you don't really come here for the hunting, do you?") for me. I think some people are more dug in some things than others, and often times the only thing that will work is time and perspective, but you know what? With the right approach, people CAN be convinced.
My mistake has always been falling back into snark and rudeness. Now if I'm provoked, sure, I'll hit back hard. But if you want a hostile audience to respect where you're coming from, it's a good idea to not start off by saying "all y'all are a bunch of redneck idiots" and proceed from there. I've lost sight of that in the past and I'm trying not to in the future.
Posted by: Jeff B. at October 16, 2013 08:34 AM (n/+FT)
I'm looking at the details of the Senate compromise (cave), and isn't it the exact same thing that the House passed right before the shutdown started? Ok, the debt limit is part of it now, that wasn't in the original fight.
But I thought the sequence was:
1) Pass the defund CR - Senate votes it down
2) Pass the delay CR - Senate ignores it
3) Pass a CR the requires Senate to go to conference - Senate ignores it
4) Shutdown
Isn't the thing coming out of the Senate the same as #3? It's a pass a CR and Debt limit extension and force the Senate to conference by Dec 15.
Maybe I'm misremembering what happened on that last day.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 16, 2013 08:34 AM (dMGxJ)
Posted by: tangonine at October 16, 2013 11:09 AM (x3YFz)
Two better words: "hookers" and "blow."
Posted by: Bob Melendez at October 16, 2013 08:34 AM (Kkt/i)
Posted by: mrp at October 16, 2013 08:34 AM (HjPtV)
There are numerous other sites that may be more to your liking
I believe the accepted HQ parlance is, "I'm sure the Hot Air button on your keyboard still works."
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 16, 2013 08:34 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: blaster at October 16, 2013 08:34 AM (W6bkf)
Posted by: RWC at October 16, 2013 08:35 AM (fWAjv)
Geordi LaForge and what does this mean!!??
Posted by: dananjcon at October 16, 2013 12:25 PM (wmU4G)
You're the black, blind guy who flew the Enterprise the first couple of seasons.
*
Sounds respectable enough...a blind guy flew the fuckin space ship?? Guess the Enterprise wan an EoE.
*
>>>He's the Engineer on The Next Generation. He was blind and wore the Vizor that would help him see. Basically it means you're probably a sciencey mechanical type that wears glasses/contacts.
**
Couldn't be further from the truth...I'm more of a animal house frat guy. See Blutarsky.
Posted by: dananjcon at October 16, 2013 08:35 AM (wmU4G)
So, I'm going flyfishing.
Posted by: Meremortal at October 16, 2013 12:32 PM (1Y+hH)
Meh... everyone does that. You take it in the cajones time and again and you get discouraged. You say F it and then, 24 hours later you're back in the fight.
It's not what you do when you're winning, it's what you do when you're losing.
Posted by: tangonine at October 16, 2013 08:36 AM (x3YFz)
========
Honduras, private cities.
Posted by: RoyalOil at October 16, 2013 08:36 AM (VjL9S)
I'll be the guy with the grin....
scar over my left eye....
pass phrase is "The Dolphin is in the Jacuzzi"
Posted by: sven10077 at October 16, 2013 08:36 AM (9jfyN)
---
Alexander the Mediocre
Richard the Pussy-Hearted
Ivan the Naughty
Posted by: WalrusRex at October 16, 2013 08:36 AM (Hx5uv)
Posted by: awkward davies at October 16, 2013 08:36 AM (WK8VM)
Posted by: Jean at October 16, 2013 08:36 AM (CMlD4)
Posted by: eleven at October 16, 2013 08:36 AM (KXm42)
Posted by: Barack Obama at October 16, 2013 08:37 AM (Myqtp)
Posted by: eleven at October 16, 2013 12:36 PM (KXm42)
I think at this point "constructive" will only come back into play when we've torn everything apart and are rebuilding with the scraps.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 16, 2013 08:37 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Bob Melendez at October 16, 2013 12:34 PM (Kkt/i)
I might have a definition of "blow" different than yours, but I admit my pupils just dilated.
Posted by: tangonine at October 16, 2013 08:38 AM (x3YFz)
1) Why does the media keep covering for Obama, when he and his administration are so obviously fuck ups?
2) Why do Democrats keep trying to increase spending, no matter how much further into debt we go? I can understand not wanting to give up on current spending, but actively trying to increase just seems nonsensical.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 16, 2013 08:38 AM (dMGxJ)
Posted by: blaster at October 16, 2013 08:38 AM (W6bkf)
I believe the accepted HQ parlance is, "I'm sure the Hot Air button on your keyboard still works."
Either that one or the "Anywhere but here" button.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at October 16, 2013 08:38 AM (0HooB)
Not said just "reality"...
every one do me a favor....
who thinks the GOP's job is repealing retard laws and who thinks its job is adding more fucktard laws?
I am a repeal the idiocy guy the best work the House can do in my eyes if they are not killing bad law is golfing.
Posted by: sven10077 at October 16, 2013 08:38 AM (9jfyN)
Posted by: 'pollo Hoit: all hail Ogabe, THE light-carrier at October 16, 2013 08:38 AM (tfSla)
Posted by: thunderb at October 16, 2013 08:39 AM (zOTsN)
pass phrase is "The Dolphin is in the Jacuzzi"
From now on, mine is "Get to da choppah, nickelfuckah!"
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 16, 2013 08:39 AM (zF6Iw)
Some of us were hoping for more...
More is good. Getting 75% of what you wanted is better than holding out for 100% and getting 5% instead.
A "surrender" would've been passing a "clean" CR and debt ceiling bill right off the bat, before the shutdown. They didn't.
Over and over they were told to FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT. Even if facing impossible odds, showing some BALLS might set us up for a win next time. And guess what? They did that- a month ago almost nobody would've predicted they'd let a shutdown last this long.
Do they get any credit for it? Nope. Just whining that they didn't achieve the impossible.
But hey- Ted Cruz got some camera time, and that's what's really important, right?
Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 16, 2013 08:39 AM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 16, 2013 12:39 PM (SY2Kh)
It's a shitload more important than you'll ever admit.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 16, 2013 08:40 AM (4df7R)
You ought to run for office, Hollowpoint. You've got all the prerequisites; narcissism, self-righteousness, and an incapacity to think outside your own perspective.
You'll do great as a Democrat operative in that bastion of rational conservative thought known as the Republican Party.
Posted by: Kinley Ardal at October 16, 2013 08:40 AM (sPEf3)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 16, 2013 08:41 AM (HVff2)
Nah what is vital is getting good Republicans like Charlie Crist and Chrisphy Chreme more air time...
right HollowPoint?
Posted by: sven10077 at October 16, 2013 08:41 AM (9jfyN)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 16, 2013 12:39 PM (SY2Kh)
It's a shitload more important than you'll ever admit.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea at October 16, 2013 12:40 PM (4df7R)
How dare a politician have political ambitions!
Posted by: buzzion at October 16, 2013 08:41 AM (LI48c)
Posted by: LASue at October 16, 2013 08:41 AM (vtZtI)
Posted by: eleven at October 16, 2013 11:30 AM (KXm42)
Added to personal glossary.
Posted by: baldilocks at October 16, 2013 08:41 AM (Tnlh/)
But hey- Ted Cruz got some camera time, and that's what's really important, right?
Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 16, 2013 12:39 PM (SY2Kh)
It's a shitload more important than you'll ever admit.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit
this this this
he is the only one lately who seems to get through the media embargo and articulate conservative ideas to the people
Posted by: thunderb at October 16, 2013 08:41 AM (zOTsN)
Soon...Vic is savvy and multiple folks are wanting to bounce his buck toothed McCain loving ass....
My money to the most viable guy not named Graham
Posted by: sven10077 at October 16, 2013 08:42 AM (9jfyN)
Posted by: dananjcon at October 16, 2013 08:42 AM (wmU4G)
Posted by: awkward davies at October 16, 2013 08:42 AM (WK8VM)
Posted by: 'pollo Hoit: all hail Ogabe, THE light-carrier at October 16, 2013 08:42 AM (tfSla)
Posted by: WalrusRex at October 16, 2013 08:43 AM (Hx5uv)
1) Why does the media keep covering for Obama, when he and his administration are so obviously fuck ups?
2) Why do Democrats keep trying to increase spending, no matter how much further into debt we go? I can understand not wanting to give up on current spending, but actively trying to increase just seems nonsensical.
Posted by: Dave in Fla
1) They are both elitist, narcissist, fascists. Obama is a simulacrum of the media, they can no more attack him then shoot themselves in the foot.
2) Have you ever seen a crack whore walk away from a dime bag ...
Posted by: Jean at October 16, 2013 08:43 AM (CMlD4)
Posted by: Randy McSeamammal at October 16, 2013 08:43 AM (naUcP)
Placing faith in politicians is like betting on Madonna's Chastity and monogamy
Posted by: sven10077 at October 16, 2013 08:43 AM (9jfyN)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 16, 2013 12:39 PM (SY2Kh)
See? Why do you have to fuck up a perfectly good post and attach 3 duct taped assholes and a rattlesnake to it?
Posted by: tangonine at October 16, 2013 08:44 AM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 16, 2013 12:38 PM (dMGxJ)
Votes don't buy themselves. Now that the FSA owns them and they own the FSA, they must forever placate them with bread and circuses. The Dims are now Roman Senators playing their end game with the budget. They are busy stealing as much as they can to fund their villas and vineyards far from Rome in the hopes that the rabble and the Legions never come for them. This is a vain hope, but, that is all they have.
BTW, Barky's villa in Hawaii is just as far from DC and the rabble as it's possible to be. The only question is...does he get to move Reggie into it or does RL have to stay in the cabana?
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes at October 16, 2013 08:44 AM (kXoT0)
Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 16, 2013 08:45 AM (dMGxJ)
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at October 16, 2013 08:45 AM (HubSo)
Posted by: dananjcon at October 16, 2013 12:42 PM (wmU4G)
ACORN. <--- "I'm not dead yet!"
Posted by: tangonine at October 16, 2013 08:46 AM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 16, 2013 12:39 PM (SY2Kh)
the Senate Repubs were willing to surrender, right at the outset.
If the Repubs wanted a WINNING Strategy? The talking point would be that the is Harry Reid's shutdown.
The House should have passed ALL the rest of the Normal Appropriation bills.... like the ones already sitting in the Senate.... Then they could have just Pointed at REID every time someone said shutdown.
And could have defunded Obamacare in the HHS and IRS potions of the NORMAL Appropriations bills...
But the Repubs are clueless.... so Harry Reid WILL win, and get to maintain funding at current levels PLUS... without any input from the Repub House as to where and how to spend that money.... as the CONSTITUION says they should.
Posted by: Romeo13 at October 16, 2013 08:46 AM (lZBBB)
I gave a non cryptic homework reading list assignment read Imperium/Conspirata by Robert Harris and tell me it ain't eerie....
Posted by: sven10077 at October 16, 2013 08:46 AM (9jfyN)
Alexander the Mediocre
Richard the Pussy-Hearted
Ivan the Naughty
Ralph the Mild
Gene the Tenderhearted
Miles the Ironic
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at October 16, 2013 08:46 AM (0HooB)
McConnell up for re-election in 2014, with a metric shit ton of cash
The five-term Kentucky senator ended September with nearly $10 million on hand for his primary battle with Matt Bevin, a Louisville businessman who has been seeking Tea Party support for his candidacy, McConnell's campaign announced Friday. He's spent more than $7 million to keep his seat.
Bevin said his campaign brought in $822,021. Most of the money — $600,000 — came from Bevin.
Posted by: thunderb at October 16, 2013 08:46 AM (zOTsN)
That's funny our suave truck driver told us THAT was the hill to die on here IIRC...
Posted by: sven10077 at October 16, 2013 08:47 AM (9jfyN)
But hey- Ted Cruz got some camera time, and that's what's really important, right?
If McStain didn't get camera time,his worthless old carcass would wither up and blow away. If you've got a stick up your ass about face time, why don't you take it up with that old fuck?
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 16, 2013 08:48 AM (zF6Iw)
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I saw some dark humor in that graph linked the other day regarding deficits for presidents in the modern era. The Donks screamed during the Reagan administration that his deficits were ruining the country, there were books about his financial irresponsibility etc. etc. The Reagan deficits were a mere blip compared the Dark Lord's.
Posted by: WalrusRex at October 16, 2013 08:48 AM (Hx5uv)
Feel the reactionary, baby!
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here)--also drooling imbecile incapable of doing algebra or something at October 16, 2013 12:30 PM (659DL)
Thanks to Cruz et al, we're in a no-win situation. There is no winning strategy, which is why I and others were opposed to going this route in the first place.
All we're left with is the humiliation of having to beg Reid to throw some small concession our way in a futile attempt to save face. That's the only play we have left.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 16, 2013 08:48 AM (SY2Kh)
Amen....
if we could stick a magnet on the ONE camera in DC and a wire up McCain and Schumer's assholes we could power the Nation with the spinning and sprinting
Posted by: sven10077 at October 16, 2013 08:49 AM (9jfyN)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 16, 2013 08:49 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: baldilocks at October 16, 2013 08:49 AM (Tnlh/)
Fan-fucking-tasic. Schools have 1/2 day today for the special election. Teachers are getting out early so they can vote for T-Bone Booker. Polls are open from 6AM to 8PM...gimme a fuckin break.
Posted by: dananjcon at October 16, 2013 12:42 PM (wmU4G)
Hell.... I want election day to be a Holiday, with Polls open 24 hours on that day.... and you MUST vote in Person with a Picture ID unless you are Military.
Posted by: Romeo13 at October 16, 2013 08:49 AM (lZBBB)
Posted by: WalrusRex at October 16, 2013 12:43 PM (Hx5uv)
Amen, and at the risk of insulting anyone here who draws a check from working for the Feds, it was sweet to watch the caterwauling and antics of those affected by the shutdown. For three weeks they got to feel like the rest of us 24/7/365.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes at October 16, 2013 08:50 AM (kXoT0)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here)--also drooling imbecile incapable of doing algebra or something at October 16, 2013 08:50 AM (659DL)
Posted by: Jean at October 16, 2013 08:51 AM (CMlD4)
Bottom line is Hollowpoint is happy that the McCain / King side of the aisle attacked and sabotaged the Cruz strategy. Something sick about that .
Posted by: polynikes at October 16, 2013 08:51 AM (m2CN7)
But in hindsight, shutting down government is a hill you can die on. The result is loss of nothing the LIVs really care about, and a lot of great optics of jackbooted park service gestapo beating up 90 year old vets.
Debt limit isn't one you can die on, or at least not one anyone in the GOP is willing to try fighting on. The administration is too willing to decide to not cut social security checks.
I think that if we go back in time, would would have done better passing a clear debt limit extension back in the summer, then letting a shutdown happen. No one was really willing to budge until this week.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 16, 2013 08:53 AM (dMGxJ)
Posted by: Hollowpoint
Why? Just walk. The House majority is structurally sound, it unlikely to switch until the next census. Screw'em
Posted by: Jean at October 16, 2013 08:53 AM (CMlD4)
Posted by: awkward davies at October 16, 2013 09:01 AM (WK8VM)
I'm not. They should've kept that shit behind closed doors.
That doesn't change the fact that the Cruz 2016 Strategy got us nowhere because it was a bad plan.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 16, 2013 09:06 AM (SY2Kh)
It's not just the House that we need to worry about.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 16, 2013 09:08 AM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: Daybrother at October 16, 2013 09:10 AM (LtU4v)
Posted by: Jean at October 16, 2013 09:10 AM (CMlD4)
That is not what I said and you know it.
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at October 16, 2013 09:12 AM (YjDyJ)
Posted by: Goatweed at October 16, 2013 09:13 AM (8HrdX)
No you did however say or imply that the Heritage Foundation is the bad actor in this little melodrama when I am seeing a lot worse actors in the Caucus itself.
End result is that the McCain gang got its way again by fucking the GOP main body.
I am slowly becoming in favor of the Tea party fucking the GOP and handing Pelosi back the reigns.....
Posted by: sven10077 at October 16, 2013 09:14 AM (9jfyN)
Correct too many Senators fall prey to the newsies "fuck the base and you're a star for a week*"
*unless/until you are the main candidate
Posted by: sven10077 at October 16, 2013 09:15 AM (9jfyN)
Posted by: Trimegistus at October 16, 2013 09:16 AM (fPh3V)
Posted by: Daybrother at October 16, 2013 09:18 AM (6NP/0)
First of all, McCain thinks he possesses more power than he actually has and he only speaks for a small minority. Second, this idea that McConnell and McCain are the only alternative is not only false but a poor excuse. I repeatedly said that neither defund nor delay would work unless the vulnerable Senate Democrats felt that they were in danger of losing their seats. The messaging on that point got lost in the infighting and the aforementioned Democrats firmly believe that they are going to keep their seats because they never felt much pressure.
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at October 16, 2013 09:26 AM (YjDyJ)
Right b/c "Senate Majority Leader John McCain" defacto works so well for us
Will you just get it over with and have a late night three-way with McCain and Graham already? A good old hate-fuck to get it out of your system?
Your obsession with John McCain is getting old. He doesn't represent the party. McCain represents McCain. There's exactly zero chance that McCain would be made Majority Leader if we won the Senate.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 16, 2013 09:27 AM (SY2Kh)
Uh McCain represents a group of 4-8 "GOP" Senators who get hard ons at trying to "really run the Senate" with usually 4 liberal Donks...
I could give three fucks about your labelling me whatever given your own "standing" but do not try to sell that "McCain only represents McCain" horsefuckery.
Posted by: sven10077 at October 16, 2013 09:31 AM (9jfyN)
Posted by: wooga at October 16, 2013 09:32 AM (Fi00V)
Posted by: bour3 at October 16, 2013 09:36 AM (5x3+2)
Posted by: Goatweed at October 16, 2013 09:37 AM (8HrdX)
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I saw that show. Lot of chicks there.
Posted by: Kensington at October 16, 2013 09:51 AM (Yy2ZT)
Posted by: 29Victor at October 16, 2013 10:49 AM (ES9R7)
I believe gubmint gets the rounding error. Office Space style.
Nickelfucked.
Posted by: grognard at October 16, 2013 11:34 AM (/29Nl)
It's a wash. Your bill comes to $4.73, they round up to $4.75. If it comes to $4.72, they round down to $4.70. Sales tax is 5% (at least here in Alberta), and it's added to the subtotal at the till.
In practice, say I buy a slice of pizza and a coffee for $5.83 (tax in). I hand the cashier a five, three quarters, and a nickel. Close enough. Because the next guy who orders the same hands her a five and a loonie, and gets fifteen cents back. Store is even, I'm up two cents, and the other guy is down two cents. Tomorrow, the shoe may be on the other foot. I suppose, if one was really bound and determined, he could chisel enough so he (possibly a business) was continually ahead of the game. Everybody needs a hobby, I guess. For a business like, say, McDonalds, gaining two cents on every transaction would be huge dollars in the long run. For me, doing probably less than ten such transactions a day, on average, the psychic cost of worrying about it all vastly exceeds any benefit/loss to be had by habitually winning/losing on the rounding error. If I "won" every time, I'd be ahead 20 cents a day. BFD.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 16, 2013 10:52 AM (8Fl6F)
Posted by: Trimegistus at October 16, 2013 10:54 AM (A/gdi)
The government passes a law that exempts itself, and not a single fucking peep from anyone in a position to draw attention to it, outside the few who are now apparently double-plus ungood.
The government chases citizens out of national parks, and not a single fucking question is allowed to be asked that might draw attention to it, and not a single fucking swingin' dick steps up to say, "Fuck you."
The government weaponizes itself and goes after citizens who disagree with it, and the only thing the left deigns to say is that the "lousy teabaggers had it comin', being all dissenty" and shit.
The government gets caught spying on the whole fucking world, and we're all just OK with it, cause a few news cycles have gone by.
Fuck me.
Posted by: My Sharia Moor at October 16, 2013 12:54 PM (0duDc)
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Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 16, 2013 06:55 AM (aDwsi)