April 03, 2013
— Ace Controversy? Oh yes. Oh very yes. Of course it's a controversy. It's Amanda Marcotte, after all, and stupid shit about the Same Damn Thing just isn't going to write itself.
First of all, do you know who Kate Upton is? Some of you don't. Perfect. She's this girl right here.
She looks like this.
Sometimes she looks like this.
I could go on. But you're up to speed now.
So Amanda Marcotte noticed that Kate Upton gives Search Engine Optimization algorithms boners, too, and she decided she had to weigh in. For Feminism. And some Kate Upton traffic.
Kat Stoeffel of the Cut has a post celebrating Upton for coming up with a polite excuse to get out of the date, even though Upton still had to endure the humiliation of having to pretend she was flattered, so as to preserve her reputation for being "nice." As Stoeffel points out, if famous models and actresses can't decline a man's offer for no other reason than lack of interest, what chance do the rest of us have?
"But her 'yes' would have reinforced the idea that women owe something--attention, time, sex--to men just because they've asked nicely. Or paid a compliment. Or bought a drink."Davidson's prom video put Upton in a no-win situation. Say yes, and you have to go through with this prom date that will probably be one of the most awkward and embarrassing nights of your life, where you have to socialize with teenagers while being paraded around like a show pony. Laugh at the obvious ridiculousness of this entire situation, and now you're a big old meanie-head. But what Upton chose to do, which is to let him down easy while pretending to be flattered, isn't really much better. Everyone knows she's just saying that. The lesson learned: You may be a rich and famous model, but any random man can, just by making a video, force you to do a little song and dance about how delightful his attentions are.
Instead of applauding Davidson for this, adults should be appalled. All that's been taught here to young men is that they are entitled to women's attention simply because they ask for it. This lesson not only feeds the unjustified grievances of the Reddit users that Stoeffel describes as "tallying up women's socially obligatory acts of kindness." It also helps build the undercurrent of fear that many women, especially younger women, have to live with in their daily lives. This entitlement we teach men crops up all the time for women, and it's rarely as cute as a silly comedy video: When a man demands that you stop on the street to entertain his proposal of going back to his place and then follows you for blocks because you pretended not to hear him. When a rape victim is told that if she didn't want to have sex, she shouldn't have gone to the rapist's hotel room. When a woman files for a restraining order because she's afraid her abusive husband means it when he says that if he can't have her, no one can.
Wait, did we just go from a silly video asking Kate Upton to prom to a rape/domsteic-violence-ending-in-murder-scenario?
We sure did. That's Our Amanda (TM)!
Anyway, I can't believe I'm saying this, but Conor Fridersdorf (whatever) has a point. Marcotte writes relentlessly in the reductivist cant of Marxist critique, which only speaks of "power imbalances" and such.
Her ideology causes her to write as if she doesn't understand what is plain to most observers: Kate Upton is far more privileged, powerful, culturally savvy, and capable of fully exercising her autonomy than the vast majority of straight white males in America, and certainly more than a dateless, non-celebrity 18-year-old high school student on YouTube.Speaking of "the dynamics of difference and power," as they called it at my alma mater, Marcotte, in her capacity as a regular columnist at a prestigious, internationally read Web magazine, presently possesses a lot more cultural power and privilege than the high school boy she just called "creepy," accused of implicitly threatening Upton with being called a bitch, and told that his prom invitation is rooted in the same premise that stalkers and rapists operate under.
Amanda has a lot of power. That power is the Power of Dumb. She wields this power without mercy (second item).
Thought: William F. Buckley deemed Patrick Buchanan likely guilty of antisemtism by analyzing his writings and his positions and noting that in every case, Buchanan decided negatively against Jewish opinions on the matter. Buckley conceded that this opinion or that one might be just fine in and of itself, but taken together, with Buchanan always on the other side of Jewish opinion, it didn't seem like random chance. It seemed like something unstated was influencing all of these pronouncements in the same direction
I'm not sure if this is a fair way to lay such a large charge against someone, but generally people seemed okay with it. The liberal media sure seemed to appreciate it.
My point is: If you look at all of Amanda Marcotte's positions and writings, isn't it rather obvious she despises men and will always, and I do mean always, find them guilty of some or other charge?
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Posted by: Maj. T.J. 'King' Kong at April 03, 2013 02:52 PM (feFL6)
Posted by: Truman North at April 03, 2013 02:54 PM (I2LwF)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 03, 2013 02:54 PM (aDwsi)
Marcotte is a dumb scrunt...and then some
Posted by: The Jackhole at April 03, 2013 02:54 PM (nTgAI)
Posted by: Norman Bean at April 03, 2013 02:54 PM (sTS/8)
Posted by: AmishDude at April 03, 2013 02:55 PM (T0NGe)
Posted by: Alex #11 at April 03, 2013 02:55 PM (PlWDv)
Posted by: The Jackhole at April 03, 2013 02:55 PM (nTgAI)
Posted by: andycanuck at April 03, 2013 06:52 PM
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Don't know.., may be she's responsible for 'Global Warming'
Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 03, 2013 02:55 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 03, 2013 02:56 PM (44H6Y)
Posted by: Vic at April 03, 2013 02:56 PM (53z96)
Posted by: Cicero, Semiautomatic Assault Commenter at April 03, 2013 02:56 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: Alex #11 at April 03, 2013 02:56 PM (PlWDv)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 03, 2013 02:56 PM (bddKN)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at April 03, 2013 02:56 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: Maj. T.J. 'King' Kong at April 03, 2013 02:56 PM (feFL6)
Her nipples say, "No", in my experience.
Posted by: andycanuck at April 03, 2013 02:57 PM (VwC86)
Posted by: Truman North at April 03, 2013 02:57 PM (I2LwF)
Posted by: Vic at April 03, 2013 06:56 PM
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I have no idea who she is, but I think you have saved me the trouble.
Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 03, 2013 02:57 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Truman North
It was touch and go there for awhile after BOOOOOSH left office. For a few months they just waddled around sticking their dicks in electric sockets.
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at April 03, 2013 02:57 PM (mN8D3)
Posted by: Amanda Marcotte at April 03, 2013 02:57 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: the bearded UNIX god at April 03, 2013 02:57 PM (j3uk1)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 03, 2013 02:58 PM (44H6Y)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 03, 2013 02:58 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Tami[/i] at April 03, 2013 02:59 PM (X6akg)
Posted by: the bearded UNIX god at April 03, 2013 02:59 PM (j3uk1)
We should all ask her on a date.
See what she says.
Ace could ask on twitter and put it on record.
Of course there's a slight risk she's say yes.
So, I volunteer Ace for this project.
To. Uh, take one for the team. Yeah that's the way.
Go ahead Ace. Ask her out. She'll say no and be a bitch about it and then we can all mock her for being a meany head.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at April 03, 2013 02:59 PM (Kpn/z)
Posted by: Truman North at April 03, 2013 02:59 PM (I2LwF)
Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone at April 03, 2013 02:59 PM (A2jNh)
Posted by: mare at April 03, 2013 03:00 PM (A98Xu)
Posted by: ace, using the PUA technique of the "neg" at April 03, 2013 03:00 PM (LCRYB)
I think she has shapeless legs.
Posted by: Serious Cat
Yeah, and her face is just so orthogonal.
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at April 03, 2013 03:01 PM (mN8D3)
Posted by: the bearded UNIX god at April 03, 2013 03:01 PM (j3uk1)
Posted by: zsasz at April 03, 2013 03:01 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 03, 2013 03:01 PM (44H6Y)
Posted by: Dr Spank at April 03, 2013 03:01 PM (3+QKS)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 03, 2013 03:02 PM (bddKN)
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Phonephobes comments will be ignored
Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 03, 2013 03:02 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: mare at April 03, 2013 03:02 PM (A98Xu)
Posted by: mama winger at April 03, 2013 03:02 PM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: ace at April 03, 2013 03:02 PM (LCRYB)
This reminds me of girls who complain about how much they just hate it when yucky men talk to them at the grocery store.
It's bragbitching. "Oh, I just hate it when men find me attractive. It's just soo uncomfortable."
Posted by: Lauren at April 03, 2013 03:02 PM (wsGWu)
Posted by: Minnfidel at April 03, 2013 03:02 PM (wLY+G)
Posted by: the bearded UNIX god at April 03, 2013 03:02 PM (j3uk1)
Posted by: t-bird at April 03, 2013 03:03 PM (oJQ+J)
I had to Bing her.
I've never heard it called that before.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 03, 2013 07:02 PM
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Me either, but I'm thinking it works better with 'her, then 'him'
Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 03, 2013 03:03 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Truman North at April 03, 2013 03:03 PM (I2LwF)
Face is meh.
Body (aside from tits) meh +
I really don't get the fascination the world has with this chick. Walk into any club in Miami or New York and you'll find 25 hotter girls.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 03, 2013 03:03 PM (HDgX3)
Posted by: ace, still using "the neg" technique on Kate Upton at April 03, 2013 03:04 PM (LCRYB)
Posted by: zsasz at April 03, 2013 03:04 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 03, 2013 03:04 PM (44H6Y)
This reminds me of girls who complain about how much they just hate it when yucky men talk to them at the grocery store.
It's bragbitching. "Oh, I just hate it when men find me attractive. It's just soo uncomfortable."
Posted by: Lauren at April 03, 2013 07:02 PM
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I find the 'Slutwalks' the ultimate expression of that.
Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 03, 2013 03:04 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Dr Spank at April 03, 2013 03:04 PM (3+QKS)
Bragbitching is also bullshit.
One of the biggest party/hook up colleges in the state has a bus that drops the students off at the local Target to shop. Thanks to that set up, there are always hordes of attractive women at my local Target. How often do I see these women being hit on by "stalkers"? Never. Yet Amanda "the troll" Marcotte expects us to believe that she can't walk down the street without men falling over themselves?
Please.
Posted by: Lauren at April 03, 2013 03:05 PM (wsGWu)
Posted by: tasker at April 03, 2013 03:05 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: Y-not iphone challenged at April 03, 2013 03:05 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: angel with a sword at April 03, 2013 03:05 PM (IcPGc)
And hit it.
And hit it.
And hit it.
And then go to jail. Again.
wait he's dead so this would be zombietime.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at April 03, 2013 03:05 PM (Kpn/z)
Amanda Marcotte's boobs? Not even a slap fight with pre-schoolers.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 03, 2013 03:05 PM (44H6Y)
Posted by: Chris Brown at April 03, 2013 03:05 PM (cHRDM)
Posted by: ace, still trying to "neg" his way into Kate Upton's heart at April 03, 2013 03:06 PM (LCRYB)
Posted by: zsasz at April 03, 2013 03:06 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Waldo at April 03, 2013 03:06 PM (TE8aX)
Well, for most males. Some guys really do not give an eff. Those guys rack up serious Poon.
Posted by: ace at April 03, 2013 07:02 PM (LCRYB)
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Tru dat. This dude in my fraternity was like that. It was all percentage with him. Hit on enough womens, eventually one will say yes. And he had it down to a science. After 5 minutes with one, he knew whether to cut bait or keep fishing. No wasting time with something that wasn't going anywhere. And he never went home alone.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 03, 2013 03:06 PM (HDgX3)
Under two weeks, right? Closer to two days, wasn't it.
Posted by: @PurpAv at April 03, 2013 03:06 PM (/gHaE)
Uh, I'm pretty sure Amynda is sublimating her resentment at the sex kitten du jour - who recalls the busty blonde bombshell types of the 50s and 60s - at the pimply Nice Guy.
It's generally a bad idea to read anything Amynda writes at face value, as there tends to be a lot of subterranean issues getting worked through by proxy.
One time I suggested doing a MadLibs of pretty much any of her pieces wherein you swap "Daddy" in for "GOP," "Patriarchy" and the like, and "go to the mall with my friends" for "reproductive rights" or any desired entitlement. It's actually quite illuminating.
Posted by: Alec Leamas at April 03, 2013 03:06 PM (Nfpnr)
"But her 'yes' would have reinforced the idea that women owe something--attention, time, sex--to men just because they've asked nicely. Or paid a compliment. Or bought a drink."
Hi Amanda, You look nice today. Have a glass of Chardonnay. Now that we got that out of the way. Spread your whore legs. Thanks.
Posted by: Minnfidel at April 03, 2013 03:07 PM (wLY+G)
Just sayin'.
Posted by: Serious Cat at April 03, 2013 03:07 PM (UypUQ)
Posted by: somebody else, not me at April 03, 2013 03:07 PM (29vnO)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 03, 2013 03:07 PM (44H6Y)
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I always figured the same about Fluke...., she was beset with contraceptive envy.
Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 03, 2013 03:07 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: the bearded UNIX god at April 03, 2013 03:08 PM (j3uk1)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 03, 2013 03:08 PM (bddKN)
Posted by: Harry Junk at April 03, 2013 03:08 PM (3+QKS)
Posted by: ace at April 03, 2013 03:08 PM (LCRYB)
Posted by: tasker at April 03, 2013 03:09 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: ace, pretty sure this "neg" thing is starting to intrigue Kate Upton at April 03, 2013 03:09 PM (LCRYB)
Hey, since Sanford got the nod, I'm thinking of running again myself. Anybody got Amanda's email?
Posted by: John Edwards
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 03, 2013 03:10 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Amanda Marcotte's Eternal Subtext at April 03, 2013 03:10 PM (MMC8r)
Would you prefer to look upon those lustrous moons of Ms Upton? Or of Michelle Obama?
Choose wisely.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 03, 2013 03:10 PM (44H6Y)
Posted by: Dr Spank at April 03, 2013 03:11 PM (3+QKS)
Posted by: Truman North at April 03, 2013 03:11 PM (I2LwF)
What the fuck is she talking about?
Posted by: lowandslow at April 03, 2013 03:11 PM (Fz2C7)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) .....Dang. I knew I was forgetting something.
Posted by: Minnfidel at April 03, 2013 03:11 PM (wLY+G)
Posted by: ace at April 03, 2013 03:11 PM (LCRYB)
Posted by: @PurpAv at April 03, 2013 03:11 PM (/gHaE)
Go on. Call/twitter Amanda for a Date.
Then go on twitter and say you did it in defense of poor Katy Upton.
That's some white knightin' there.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at April 03, 2013 03:11 PM (Kpn/z)
Posted by: the bearded UNIX god at April 03, 2013 03:12 PM (j3uk1)
But certainly at the time Buckley wrote that, he was right.
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at April 03, 2013 03:12 PM (QTHTd)
Posted by: GnuBreed at April 03, 2013 03:12 PM (ccXZP)
Posted by: Lucky Pierre at April 03, 2013 03:12 PM (5fSr7)
According to Wikipedia Marcotte has a "partner." He's got a BA in philosophy and works at the Center for Reproductive Rights.
You know, a homo.
Posted by: Soledad O'Brien's Earpiece at April 03, 2013 03:12 PM (8ZskC)
Again, what the fuck? Does she even know people?
Posted by: lowandslow at April 03, 2013 03:12 PM (Fz2C7)
of going back to his place and then follows you for blocks because you
pretended not to hear him."
What the fuck is she talking about?
Posted by: lowandslow at April 03, 2013 07:11 PM
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Apparently Amanda looks like a trolling hooker while walking...
Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 03, 2013 03:12 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: ace at April 03, 2013 03:12 PM (LCRYB)
Posted by: Beagle at April 03, 2013 03:13 PM (sOtz/)
Posted by: Craig Poe at April 03, 2013 03:13 PM (BVkEs)
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at April 03, 2013 03:13 PM (QTHTd)
For the 513th time, this is your brain on drugs.
Posted by: Muad'dib at April 03, 2013 03:13 PM (SCTXH)
Posted by: the bearded UNIX god at April 03, 2013 03:13 PM (j3uk1)
Posted by: jmel at April 03, 2013 03:13 PM (9tSXa)
Posted by: ace, now trying out the Backdoor Brag at April 03, 2013 03:13 PM (LCRYB)
Amanda Marcotte @AmandaMarcotte
It's also weird the way conservatives seem to think people marry because they hit a certain age & not because, you know, of opportunity.
Arguing against that, ever single unmarried heterosexual woman in her 30s that I know.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 03, 2013 03:13 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: tasker at April 03, 2013 03:14 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: Dr Spank ..................Exactly. I think she's hot with a little extra. I love that body type. I think she's magnificent! Not that Kleenex eating skeletons aren't teh hotness.
Posted by: Minnfidel at April 03, 2013 03:14 PM (wLY+G)
Posted by: ace at April 03, 2013 07:11 PM (LCRYB)
I am now thinking about Howard Wolowitz in both the eye patch outfit and the Goth outfit.
The moral to Howard's story: eventually you get a teeny tiny brilliant scientist with huge knockers and hair that smells like strawberries who makes a shitton of money and buys you a Rolex.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Take us away. at April 03, 2013 03:14 PM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at April 03, 2013 03:14 PM (GVxQo)
Posted by: Amanda Marcotte's Eternal Subtext at April 03, 2013 03:14 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: ace at April 03, 2013 03:14 PM (LCRYB)
I kinda liked her bangs. She's trying to appeal to folks.
It's all bullshit and plastic but hey she tryin'.
Plus I wasn't criticizing Katy. I was sadly pointing out the limited time we have to enjoy the good things in life.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at April 03, 2013 03:14 PM (Kpn/z)
Posted by: Beefy Meatball, who can pop a pumkin from 300m with open sights at April 03, 2013 03:15 PM (i7B17)
Posted by: The littl shyning man at April 03, 2013 03:15 PM (FaH+O)
Posted by: tasker at April 03, 2013 03:15 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: zsasz at April 03, 2013 03:15 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone at April 03, 2013 03:16 PM (A2jNh)
Posted by: Buzzion at April 03, 2013 03:16 PM (chLzJ)
"But her 'yes' would have reinforced the idea that women owe something--attention, time, sex--to men just because they've asked nicely. Or paid a compliment. Or bought a drink."
Except, there is exactly that expectation, and with good reason. If I buy a woman a drink, I'm not expecting her to drop down right there at the bar and suck my dick. I am, however, expecting that she spend the time it takes to finish that drink engaging me in conversation. If she doesn't want that, then she can refuse the drink. It's the same reason that a man buys dinner on a first date: he is demonstrating that he can be a provider, as well as buying a woman's time and attention in order to have a chance to impress her.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at April 03, 2013 03:16 PM (lr3d7)
Giggles?
It's a joke. She won't say yes and she might say something REALLY stupid. Well, stupidER than usual for her.
It would show her up for what she is.
I'd do it but it wouldn't be the same or get the same coverage.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at April 03, 2013 03:16 PM (Kpn/z)
why on earth would I possibly do this?
Posted by: ace at April 03, 2013 07:14 PM
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For the great story? Gold as a posting...., Gold!
Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 03, 2013 03:16 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 03, 2013 03:16 PM (sZ7js)
Posted by: ace, still doing the Backdoor Brag thing that Amanda Marcotte's hipped him to at April 03, 2013 03:16 PM (LCRYB)
Posted by: tasker at April 03, 2013 03:16 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: Waldo at April 03, 2013 03:17 PM (TE8aX)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 03, 2013 03:17 PM (44H6Y)
Posted by: Javems at April 03, 2013 03:18 PM (c8xU9)
Except for the guys racking up all the Poon.
Otherwise known as sociopaths. And/or borderline psychopaths.
Posted by: imp at April 03, 2013 03:18 PM (oGrkY)
See, Marcotte is completely immune to all this shit. Mockery, which is so very, very richly deserved, is immoral. Because she (undoubtedly) interprets any criticism of her as illegitimate opposition to her feminism. If you oppose her views you are a privileged, oppressive member of the patriarchy, QED. You may now be freely ignored.
Anyone know where I can get a job where all criticism of me is automatically out-of-bounds?
Sweet deal. Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 03, 2013 07:16 PM
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Sure..., run for President...., oh wait...., are you a black guy?
Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 03, 2013 03:18 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Truman North at April 03, 2013 03:18 PM (I2LwF)
I've always wondered if that fear/feeling is greatly diminished for blind people? Also, are you off the hook for approaching the girl to initiate converstaion if you can't see?
Posted by: Serious Cat at April 03, 2013 03:18 PM (UypUQ)
Posted by: Y-not iphone challenged at April 03, 2013 03:18 PM (5H6zj)
Except for the guys racking up all the Poon.
But damnit, we all know it's true and we've known since we first heard it-- it was the first statistical argument that made any sense to us. OF COURSE that's true.
But still, we can't do it.
Posted by: ace at April 03, 2013 07:08 PM (LCRYB)
__________________
We?
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 03, 2013 03:18 PM (HDgX3)
It depends who you are. If you're a rich, good-looking asshole, it probably works. If you're a sociopath willing to pretend to be a rich asshole, it'll definitely work.
If you're an average J - er, person, then it won't work. You'll still have to remember to be the captain of the ship; but if you badmouth your prospective first mate, she will pitch you overboard.
(And if you're Average Joe, you'll suck cocks, by choice.)
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at April 03, 2013 03:18 PM (QTHTd)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at April 03, 2013 03:18 PM (GVxQo)
Posted by: the bearded UNIX god at April 03, 2013 03:19 PM (j3uk1)
Hey Ace! Is that a half stack of dimes in your pocket or are you just semi-glad to see me?
Posted by: Amanda at April 03, 2013 03:19 PM (SCTXH)
Posted by: ace, whining about how it sucks to always be so sexually wanted at April 03, 2013 03:19 PM (LCRYB)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at April 03, 2013 07:14 PM (GVxQo)
Don't be such a Stiffly Stifferson.
Posted by: Christopher Walken at April 03, 2013 03:19 PM (29vnO)
Posted by: Waldo at April 03, 2013 03:19 PM (TE8aX)
Posted by: Truman North at April 03, 2013 03:19 PM (I2LwF)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at April 03, 2013 03:19 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Dr Spank at April 03, 2013 03:19 PM (3+QKS)
Posted by: tasker at April 03, 2013 03:20 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: the bearded UNIX god at April 03, 2013 03:20 PM (j3uk1)
Amanda Marcotte's boobs? Not even a slap fight with pre-schoolers.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 03, 2013 07:05 PM (44H6Y)
Only this morning I made mention of how I had attained wisdom by never sipping a beverage while reading at the HQ. Then I read this.
Fortunately, I am at home, browsing the interwebs on my desktop PC, hooked up to my television, and therefore the screen was not at risk. I do, however, have orange juice in my lungs now. o.o It is somewhat painful.
(o.0 ) Note to self: just stop drinking altogether while reading the HQ.
Posted by: Kinley Ardal at April 03, 2013 03:20 PM (8NlzU)
Posted by: ace at April 03, 2013 03:20 PM (LCRYB)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 03, 2013 03:20 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: the bearded UNIX god at April 03, 2013 03:20 PM (j3uk1)
of going back to his place and then follows you for blocks because you
pretended not to hear him."
What the fuck is she talking about?
Posted by: lowandslow at April 03, 2013 07:11 PM (Fz2C7)
No one knows....not even Amanda I suspect.
Posted by: Tami[/i] at April 03, 2013 03:20 PM (X6akg)
if anyone doesn't know what a "neg" is, it's a Pick Up Artist schtick where you pretend to compliment a girl but you're actually insulting her. The idea is to increase her insecurity and somehow make it seem like landing you in bed would be a vindication for her. Like, NOW that you've insulted her, she HAS to have sex with you just to prove herself to you.
No, I don't believe in this, I'm just doing a joke.
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The idea of the neg is to communicate a higher relative value to a particularly attractive woman. It doesn't necessarily imply insult, though the crudest could be insults. A really attractive woman's frame is to qualify men because of the amount of postive attention they get from men all day every day. When you telegraph that you are qualifying her, you a) stand out from 99% of the other men she interacts with; and b) inflate your value as a potential mate in her mind. You're flipping her frame. It does work in initiating a rapport with attractive women, though no one size "technique" will lead to bedding the woman of your choice at will. Aloof disinterest mixed with self-confidence is the idea.
It's not unlike how super premium goods don't advertize in Sports Illustrated or the like. The implied message is that 99.9% of readers couldn't afford a Ferrari anyway, which increases the mystique and interest in the product.
Posted by: Alec Leamas at April 03, 2013 03:21 PM (Nfpnr)
Posted by: Lauren at April 03, 2013 03:21 PM (wsGWu)
2013 SI cover : http://tinyurl.com/chf4spz
Posted by: Dr Spank at April 03, 2013 07:16 PM
Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me.
Posted by: lieutenant-commander scott at April 03, 2013 03:21 PM (VwC86)
Posted by: Cato at April 03, 2013 03:21 PM (qEYyR)
Amanda Marcotte @AmandaMarcotte
Yessssss.... Bleached's first full-length LP arrived in the mail today.
"Yes, I listen to all my music on vinyl. Why do you ask?"
*pushes up big black hipster glasses*
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 03, 2013 03:22 PM (kdS6q)
I really don't get the fascination the world has with this chick. Walk
into any club in Miami or New York and you'll find 25 hotter girls.
1. Those chicks are usually stuck up and neurotic, while Ms. Upton at least gives off the vibe of being somewhat down to earth.
2. Someone (NDH?) once said, "There's a little piggy in there that one day will get free." I agree. I can picture her with two kids, about ten pounds heavier and without makeup. She still looks good. A lot of the "hot" girls will fall apart by 30 and desperately try to keep the age away. Or they'll go overboard in the other direction.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at April 03, 2013 03:22 PM (lr3d7)
http://tinyurl.com/cwydu7o
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 03, 2013 03:23 PM (44H6Y)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at April 03, 2013 03:23 PM (bxiXv)
Gamemanship for dating does not work.
Sorry Charlie.
Unless you like trouble.
Posted by: tasker at April 03, 2013 07:14 PM (r2PLg)
Gamesmanship, no. Lifesmanship, however...
Posted by: Professor Marius von Totenkopf (formerly Hoss Fuentes) at April 03, 2013 03:23 PM (aozUR)
of going back to his place and then follows you for blocks because you pretended not to hear him."
What the fuck is she talking about?
So I just kept the bitch's wallet.
Posted by: A Guy Walking Down The Street Holding A Wallet at April 03, 2013 03:23 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: ace at April 03, 2013 03:23 PM (LCRYB)
Oh, I think you need to go on. I need more examples.
Posted by: Marmo at April 03, 2013 03:24 PM (pcgW1)
Because if it's an actual drink, dude, that was like ten dollars with tip. Ass, gas, or grass, no one rides for free.
Under the table, Petunia. Make with the beeje.
Posted by: ace at April 03, 2013 07:20 PM (LCRYB)
I was discussing with someone the other day that it's now about $50-60 to take a date out to have a high class dinner of Wendy's followed by a movie with popcorn and a drink. If I were a teenager, hell fucking yes I would expect some kind of putting out if I just shelled out that kind of money for a couple of combo meals, some romcom movie that didn't have any explosions and popcorn that didn't even have real butter on it.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Take us away. at April 03, 2013 03:24 PM (Gk3SS)
Amanda Marcotte @AmandaMarcotte
Yessssss.... Bleached's first full-length LP arrived in the mail today.
"Yes, I listen to all my music on vinyl. Why do you ask?"
*pushes up big black hipster glasses*
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 03, 2013 07:22 PM
=================================
Hard to find good stylii these days.
Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 03, 2013 03:24 PM (aDwsi)
of going back to his place and then follows you for blocks because you
pretended not to hear him."
What the fuck is she talking about?
So I just kept the bitch's wallet.
Posted by: A Guy Walking Down The Street Holding A Wallet at April 03, 2013 07:23 PM (8ZskC)
LMAO!!
Posted by: Tami[/i] at April 03, 2013 03:24 PM (X6akg)
What do you mean, "desperately"?
Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at April 03, 2013 03:25 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 03, 2013 03:25 PM (44H6Y)
Posted by: lowandslow at April 03, 2013 03:25 PM (Fz2C7)
2013 SI cover : http://tinyurl.com/chf4spz
Posted by: Dr Spank at April 03, 2013 07:16 PM
Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me.
Posted by: lieutenant-commander scott
Those are actually real links to Kate. And who you fooling, you're going to look.
Posted by: Dr Spank at April 03, 2013 03:25 PM (3+QKS)
Posted by: Pedantry J. Fuckwhistle at April 03, 2013 03:25 PM (JDIKC)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 03, 2013 03:26 PM (sZ7js)
Posted by: James I at April 03, 2013 03:26 PM (xem8G)
Posted by: Lauren at April 03, 2013 03:26 PM (wsGWu)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 03, 2013 03:26 PM (44H6Y)
It's not unlike how super premium goods don't advertize in Sports Illustrated or the like. The implied message is that 99.9% of readers couldn't afford a Ferrari anyway, which increases the mystique and interest in the product.
Posted by: Alec Leamas at April 03, 2013 07:21 PM (Nfpnr)
_____________
I never realized I was doing a thing or working an angle, but that's what I did back in the day. At the most base level, ignore hot chicks who want to be paid attention to. Doing so makes them a) feel insecure and an insecure woman is easy prey and b) if you don't want them, they'll damn well sure want to find out why and look at it as some kind of challenge/quest to make you want them.
I didn't know why it worked, but it did...relatively well. I should have written a book and made millions selling my book fro $39.99 on late night TV.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 03, 2013 03:26 PM (HDgX3)
Posted by: Truman North at April 03, 2013 03:27 PM (I2LwF)
Posted by: ace at April 03, 2013 03:27 PM (LCRYB)
Posted by: Dr Spank at April 03, 2013 03:27 PM (3+QKS)
Posted by: Sticky Wicket at April 03, 2013 03:27 PM (eyJh9)
Posted by: tasker at April 03, 2013 03:27 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone at April 03, 2013 03:28 PM (A2jNh)
I really don't get the fascination the world has with this chick. Walk
into any club in Miami or New York and you'll find 25 hotter girls.
1. Those chicks are usually stuck up and neurotic, while Ms. Upton at least gives off the vibe of being somewhat down to earth.
2. Someone (NDH?) once said, "There's a little piggy in there that one day will get free." I agree. I can picture her with two kids, about ten pounds heavier and without makeup. She still looks good. A lot of the "hot" girls will fall apart by 30 and desperately try to keep the age away. Or they'll go overboard in the other direction.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at April 03, 2013 07:22 PM (lr3d7)
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Yeah but come one, people aren't leering at her for what she might look like 10 years from now.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 03, 2013 03:28 PM (HDgX3)
The Germans really want their gold back. Pronto.
Posted by: lieutenant-commander scott at April 03, 2013 03:28 PM (VwC86)
Posted by: ace at April 03, 2013 07:27 PM (LCRYB)
We just assumed, you know.....because you're here with us everyday.
Posted by: Tami[/i] at April 03, 2013 03:28 PM (X6akg)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 03, 2013 03:28 PM (sZ7js)
Posted by: Y-not iphone challenged at April 03, 2013 03:28 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Peppermint Patty's Ben Wa Balls at April 03, 2013 03:28 PM (jucos)
Posted by: tasker at April 03, 2013 07:27 PM (r2PLg)
?
Posted by: willow at April 03, 2013 03:28 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: zsasz at April 03, 2013 03:29 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Dr Spank at April 03, 2013 07:27 PM
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Maybe. Amanda..., not so much.
Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 03, 2013 03:29 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Dr Spank at April 03, 2013 03:29 PM (3+QKS)
Posted by: Lauren at April 03, 2013 03:29 PM (wsGWu)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 03, 2013 03:29 PM (piMMO)
Breitbart bought a raffle dinner off of Bill Ayers. Just so he could beard the lion in his den. (Plus he made a 'this is the bomb' joke about one of the dishes served).
Amanda awaits your tweet, ace.
Posted by: GnuBreed at April 03, 2013 03:29 PM (ccXZP)
Posted by: tasker at April 03, 2013 03:29 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: Sticky Wicket at April 03, 2013 03:29 PM (eyJh9)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 03, 2013 03:30 PM (jucos)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 03, 2013 03:30 PM (sZ7js)
Also an older sister is good.
Men and woman reach a certain age and they puff up like a penny balloon.
Women more often after a kid or three.
Beware gaining any weight. For any reason. It. Never. Comes. Off.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at April 03, 2013 03:30 PM (Kpn/z)
Yeah but come one, people aren't leering at her for what she might look like 10 years from now.
Maybe not directly, but I do think part of her attractiveness is that she looks like the kind of girl who ages well.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at April 03, 2013 03:30 PM (lr3d7)
Posted by: Marmo at April 03, 2013 03:30 PM (pcgW1)
That was Washingtonienne (and Wonkette, attention-whoring again). I'm sure Marcotte likes anal a good deal less than her socially-aware "partner" does
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at April 03, 2013 03:30 PM (QTHTd)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 03, 2013 03:31 PM (piMMO)
Not seeing it yet.
Posted by: tasker at April 03, 2013 07:29 PM (r2PLg)
because of Nkorean threats?
Posted by: willow at April 03, 2013 03:31 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at April 03, 2013 03:31 PM (Kpn/z)
Posted by: Dr Spank at April 03, 2013 07:25 PM
Ah. the Corbomite Maneuver. Then you, sir, will enjoy this Kate Upton link even more.
http://tinyurl.com/cbrxdz6
Posted by: mister spock at April 03, 2013 03:31 PM (VwC86)
Posted by: Dr Spank at April 03, 2013 03:31 PM (3+QKS)
At my station in life she'd say, "Just drop me at the next corner, NOW."
Posted by: Tobacco Road at April 03, 2013 03:31 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: Truman North at April 03, 2013 03:31 PM (I2LwF)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 03, 2013 03:31 PM (44H6Y)
Posted by: Ewok Marcotte at April 03, 2013 03:32 PM (wsGWu)
Posted by: Y-not iphone challenged at April 03, 2013 03:32 PM (5H6zj)
I never realized I was doing a thing or working an angle, but that's what I did back in the day. At the most base level, ignore hot chicks who want to be paid attention to. Doing so makes them a) feel insecure and an insecure woman is easy prey and b) if you don't want them, they'll damn well sure want to find out why and look at it as some kind of challenge/quest to make you want them.
__________________________
I kind of stumbled upon this myself. I got sprung for one girl in particular and got too invested, but at that a few other really attractive girls that I had been into began expressing interest. You reflect on it and realize that the difference wasn't them, it was you, and particularly the way that you behaved when you didn't give a shit about what the other girls thought because your mind was elsewhere. I wasn't reacting to them like I might have before, so I deduced that it was the laid back indifference that was the difference. Totally changed my outlook towards women.
Posted by: Alec Leamas at April 03, 2013 03:32 PM (Nfpnr)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 03, 2013 03:33 PM (jucos)
"Hey, you found my watch!"
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 03, 2013 07:24 PM (kdS6q)
Awesome sauce
Posted by: Beefy Meatball at April 03, 2013 03:33 PM (i7B17)
Posted by: tasker at April 03, 2013 03:33 PM (r2PLg)
uh hmm, Kate Upton is pretty doesn't take Herself so seriously . She seems like a she would be a nice person to float around with. If i were her age.
I havemn't heard any drug or drinking issues either.
Posted by: willow at April 03, 2013 03:33 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 03, 2013 03:33 PM (HDgX3)
So is it true that women don't ask men out on dates, even once they're in their 30s and older? That seems so odd to me. Why waste tge time waiting to be asked out?
Because a lot of them have had their heads filled with BS about how they need to spend their twenties sleeping around and climbing the corporate ladder, and that after they enter their thirties and finally decide to have a kid then the perfect man will magically appear.
It doesn't, but they're too stupid or embarrassed to admit that they screwed up and that they're not as hot as they thought they were.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at April 03, 2013 03:33 PM (lr3d7)
Apparently the shooting has occurred near Human Resources Command.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 03, 2013 03:33 PM (44H6Y)
Posted by: rickl at April 03, 2013 03:34 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 03, 2013 03:34 PM (jucos)
Posted by: the bearded UNIX god at April 03, 2013 03:35 PM (j3uk1)
Posted by: ace
***
And yet you banter with us.
Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at April 03, 2013 03:35 PM (uhftQ)
prayers for those that might have been in harrms way.
hopefully lack of specificity is good news.
Posted by: willow at April 03, 2013 03:35 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo
Has anyone ever accused you of being slow?
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at April 03, 2013 03:35 PM (mN8D3)
In person, probably.
Online, if the woman is interested, even if she doesn't ask first explicitly, she'll drop some pretty blatant hints, to the point where the guy has to say "so... er... Friday evening for coffee?" or else end the conversation
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at April 03, 2013 03:35 PM (QTHTd)
Posted by: Grey Fox at April 03, 2013 03:35 PM (BsxM8)
Posted by: Y-not iphone challenged at April 03, 2013 03:35 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Alec Leamas at April 03, 2013 07:32 PM (Nfpnr)
_________
Totally. It's a universal law. The day you get a girlfriend is the day the girl you've been drooling over for the past year suddenly expresses an interest in you/
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 03, 2013 03:35 PM (HDgX3)
Wait what? People think Kate Upton is chubby? Dude WTF? I'm not as enamored of her as most, but calling her chubby is fucking retarded.
She's definitely curvier than most models and "hot" girls these days, but she carries it very well. She's curvy in the right places.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at April 03, 2013 03:35 PM (lr3d7)
Posted by: tasker at April 03, 2013 03:36 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: the bearded UNIX god at April 03, 2013 03:38 PM (j3uk1)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 03, 2013 03:38 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: tasker at April 03, 2013 03:38 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: ace
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yet here We are.
Posted by: willow at April 03, 2013 03:38 PM (nqBYe)
The older I get, the more accepting i am of women who have realistic figures.
Although nobody wants to watch porn when the actress sports the FUPA.
Posted by: Truman North
***
There's probably fetish sites for the FUPA. I refuse to look.
Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at April 03, 2013 03:38 PM (uhftQ)
Posted by: Colorado Alex at April 03, 2013 07:35 PM (lr3d7)
___________
The typical model is 6'+ and weighs 120 lbs. Tall skin and bones. Thanks but no thanks. That was my point. Kate Upton is "fat" when compared to these Holocaust stand ins.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 03, 2013 03:39 PM (HDgX3)
Salma Hayek can play the mothers or the teachers.
Posted by: yerro at April 03, 2013 03:39 PM (hTVGl)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 03, 2013 03:39 PM (piMMO)
It's like they've got esp or can smell it on you.
And women wonder why men cheat.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at April 03, 2013 03:39 PM (Kpn/z)
Posted by: the bearded UNIX god at April 03, 2013 03:39 PM (j3uk1)
Posted by: Arbalest at April 03, 2013 03:39 PM (ZtTa1)
Posted by: mare at April 03, 2013 03:40 PM (A98Xu)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 03, 2013 03:40 PM (sZ7js)
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo
This IS absolutely a truth of men/women, and human nature in general. Just watch one kid in the sandbox ignoring the Tonka dump-truck, till the other kid decides to play with it.
I have no clue why this is. It just is.
Posted by: Tobacco Road at April 03, 2013 03:40 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: tasker at April 03, 2013 03:41 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 03, 2013 03:41 PM (piMMO)
C'mon. You know this.
If he's talking to you, he's interested.
(unless he's a homo or a co worker. But even then . . )
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at April 03, 2013 03:41 PM (Kpn/z)
Posted by: the bearded UNIX god at April 03, 2013 03:41 PM (j3uk1)
Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at April 03, 2013 07:38 PM (uhftQ)"
They do, they are called the ricky gervais fan club.
Posted by: yerro at April 03, 2013 03:41 PM (hTVGl)
Posted by: huerfano at April 03, 2013 03:41 PM (bAGA/)
Posted by: Irishacres at April 03, 2013 03:42 PM (HVff2)
Posted by: BCochran1981 at April 03, 2013 03:42 PM (NQNyI)
Posted by: 'cockney' amanda marcotte at April 03, 2013 03:42 PM (VwC86)
Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone at April 03, 2013 03:42 PM (A2jNh)
Posted by: Colorado Alex at April 03, 2013 03:42 PM (lr3d7)
Posted by: toby928© for TB at April 03, 2013 03:42 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: Truman North at April 03, 2013 03:42 PM (I2LwF)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at April 03, 2013 03:43 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 03, 2013 03:43 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 03, 2013 03:43 PM (sZ7js)
I have no clue why this is. It just is.
Posted by: Tobacco Road at April 03, 2013 07:40 PM (4Mv1T)
_________________
There was a study done on parking lot behavior that showed the same behavior. The average time it took someone to leave a parking spot when someone else was waiting was 300% longer than when there was nobody else waiting for it.
People don't want to give up their shit to someone else, even when they don't need it anymore.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 03, 2013 03:43 PM (HDgX3)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 03, 2013 03:43 PM (bddKN)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at April 03, 2013 03:44 PM (JDIKC)
Afraid you'll max out the Visa? ;-)
Posted by: Sean Bannion
***
No. I'm worried about dry heaving to death.
Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at April 03, 2013 03:44 PM (uhftQ)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 03, 2013 03:44 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Truman North at April 03, 2013 03:44 PM (I2LwF)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 03, 2013 03:44 PM (sZ7js)
Posted by: the bearded UNIX god at April 03, 2013 03:45 PM (j3uk1)
Posted by: Y-not iphone challenged at April 03, 2013 03:45 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 03, 2013 03:45 PM (piMMO)
On the one hand, I'm with you, I don't see why women should have to wait around for the first move. On the other hand, though, rejection fucking sucks. I can't imagine how guys do it, just walk up to a girl who could be gay, or psycho or dating someone, or dating a gay psycho and put themselves out there. Or worse, asking out someone you know and getting that sympathetic "you're just like a brother to me, I could never like you that way". Yeah, I'm glad I'm a straight chick.
After getting the run around from girls throughout college, I'll admit that I'm quite gunshy. I prefer to find a social event and see if we click through that before asking her out. That said, I find the easiest way to avoid the "friend zone" is to simply be honest. "I'm interested in you and would like to date you. No? Ok, I'll be friends with you. If you ever change your mind, I'm interested, but I'm not going to wait around pining."
Posted by: Colorado Alex at April 03, 2013 03:45 PM (lr3d7)
Again--you do not want to "score" insecure chicks.
Sure it feels like a win, but it's not.
Posted by: tasker at April 03, 2013 07:41 PM (r2PLg)
_____________
Wanna hear a secret? They're ALL insecure. Kate Upton included.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 03, 2013 03:46 PM (HDgX3)
Posted by: zsasz at April 03, 2013 03:47 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: the bearded UNIX god at April 03, 2013 03:47 PM (j3uk1)
Propinquity is not your friend.
You should be "riding herd" daily.
but subtly.
HE'LL know and think it's cute. THEY'LL know and back off.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at April 03, 2013 03:47 PM (Kpn/z)
Posted by: yerro
***
He has a mean sense of humor. Don't find him funny.
Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at April 03, 2013 03:47 PM (uhftQ)
Posted by: BCochran1981 at April 03, 2013 03:48 PM (NQNyI)
***
I believe it's Fatty Upper Pubic area
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 03, 2013 07:45 PM (piMMO)
--Just look at Lena Dunham and you'll know all.
Posted by: logprof at April 03, 2013 03:48 PM (+iA5G)
Tell you what, Junior. Go read Ace's Sex For Money Skankathon. There's more relationship wisdom there than that fucking foolishness you wrote.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at April 03, 2013 07:44 PM (JDIKC)
_____________
Ahh but there's your problem. At 18, 19 years old in college I didn't want relationship wisdom. I wanted to see as many naked girls up close and personal as I could.
Get it sport?
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 03, 2013 03:48 PM (HDgX3)
girlfriend is the day the girl you've been drooling over for the past
year suddenly expresses an interest in you
And you dump the girlfriend and marry the drool. And the girlfriend gets castigated for "delaying marriage", as if she had a fucking choice.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ drinking heavily at April 03, 2013 03:48 PM (hO8IJ)
The specific...
In other words, instead of letting Marcotte go all "Animal House" trial scene and conclude that Upton is supporting rape, and this is all about male entitlement....
> The lesson learned: You may be a rich and famous model, but any random man can, just by making a video, force you to do a little song and dance about how delightful his attentions are.
Umm. No, because if you were not rich and famous you would not have to worry about managing the PR of the situation. You could be an asshole / bitch and not care.
But there is a price that comes with celebrity. You had better believe with reverse genders it would be even *more* PR-disastrous, so it's not male entitlement at all. That is, imagine a nice guy male, like Tim Tebow, for example. Imagine a dying high school girl asks him to her prom. Does he get to dismiss the invite any more cavalierly than does Upton? I think he's in the hot seat even more than she is.
*ADDITIONALLY* when it gets down to it, this...
> Instead of applauding Davidson for this, adults should be appalled. All that's been taught here to young men is that they are entitled to women's attention simply because they ask for it.
...is stupid, too, because how else is this dating thing supposed to work? Someone has to do the asking, and then someone has to finesse the response. If Marcotte really thinks this is a power imbalance, let her try being the pursuer for a while--and seeing how it feels to be shot down. What would her opinion of a man be who totally ignored her request for his attention?
People like her do not want equality and fairness. They want perks for their tribe, and their tribe just happens to be female.
Posted by: Nicholas Kronos at April 03, 2013 03:48 PM (51kjJ)
If the person coming in is leaving me some space to get out, then, personally, I'll get out as fast as I can. If I think I'm being hurried or pressured, I'll take my fucking time and aggravate the asshole.
But I'm mean that way:^)
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at April 03, 2013 03:48 PM (QTHTd)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at April 03, 2013 03:49 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 03, 2013 07:39 PM (HDgX3)
Six foot and 120 would be considered "fat". Try 110 and under.
I think it's hilarious that there's all this outrage over models eating tissues and girls not wanting their thighs to touch. I am Of A Certain Age and that shit was going on when I was 14.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Take us away. at April 03, 2013 03:49 PM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 03, 2013 07:48 PM (HDgX3)
Uh, oh.
two men enter one man leave.
two men enter one man leave.
two men enter one man leave.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at April 03, 2013 03:50 PM (Kpn/z)
Posted by: zsasz
***
THANK YOU!
Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at April 03, 2013 03:50 PM (uhftQ)
Posted by: Helen Thomas' wheel-barrow toted labia at April 03, 2013 03:50 PM (iT7+e)
Posted by: Jones in CO at April 03, 2013 03:50 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at April 03, 2013 03:50 PM (A/F7b)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 03, 2013 03:50 PM (sZ7js)
Posted by: zsasz at April 03, 2013 03:50 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: the bearded UNIX god at April 03, 2013 03:51 PM (j3uk1)
I think it's hilarious that there's all this outrage over models eating tissues and girls not wanting their thighs to touch. I am Of A Certain Age and that shit was going on when I was 14.
17 years ago isn't that long.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at April 03, 2013 03:52 PM (lr3d7)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 03, 2013 03:52 PM (bddKN)
Posted by: Truman North at April 03, 2013 03:52 PM (I2LwF)
Posted by: toby928© for TB at April 03, 2013 03:52 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: Whatev at April 03, 2013 03:52 PM (A7Wh1)
Fallen Interthigh Ham Flaps.
Posted by: the bearded UNIX god
***
Eaaaasy there stomach...
Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at April 03, 2013 03:52 PM (uhftQ)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 03, 2013 03:52 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Ernst Blofeld at April 03, 2013 03:52 PM (XZWie)
Posted by: Y-not iphone challenged at April 03, 2013 03:53 PM (5H6zj)
I was reading something from the HillBuzz guy about how Obama was a total homo and was a regular at gay clubs and bath houses. He gave a rundown of the gay bar scene while doing it.
Supposedly, instead of showing game with small talk, one dude will just go up to another one and grab his junk. If the guy is interested, he'll gab back. If not he'll just push the hand away and continue on sipping his Pina Colada or wine cooler
Posted by: Albie Damned at April 03, 2013 03:53 PM (Yhu4q)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at April 03, 2013 03:53 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Whatev
***
I was still sore from working out! Get over it!
Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at April 03, 2013 03:54 PM (uhftQ)
Same with employment. Sad, but true. I think the same assumptions are made in that example.
Posted by: Tobacco Road at April 03, 2013 03:54 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at April 03, 2013 03:54 PM (JDIKC)
Posted by: andycanuck at April 03, 2013 03:54 PM (VwC86)
Yeah, I read that and reflexively checked the calendar. Can we go back to 1989 for everything, not just teenage girl bully shit?
It would be interesting to see if these memes propagate generationally (mom/grandma to daughter), or just never die (always a new group of freshmen in the locker room).
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ drinking heavily at April 03, 2013 03:54 PM (hO8IJ)
Posted by: the bearded UNIX god at April 03, 2013 03:56 PM (j3uk1)
***
Huh?
How'd we get from supermodels to dem other folks? I musta missed a comment.
Posted by: Tobacco Road at April 03, 2013 03:56 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: Truman North at April 03, 2013 03:57 PM (I2LwF)
I did once, and it was a big fucking mistake. Wasted years of my fertility waiting for him to feel old enough to get married. He's 40, still doesn't feel old enough to get married.
Avoid the fuck out of those guys if you want to get married and have kids.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ drinking heavily at April 03, 2013 03:57 PM (hO8IJ)
Posted by: the bearded UNIX god at April 03, 2013 03:57 PM (j3uk1)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 03, 2013 03:58 PM (piMMO)
There was a Drudge link yesterday that I didn't read but I take it from the accompanying photo that skinny models are eating tissue paper to fill up their stomachs rather than eating real food.
Posted by: andycanuck at April 03, 2013 03:58 PM (VwC86)
Toby, they can be f'ng strangers and not know a thing about who you're dating or whatever.
It's like they have radar or you're giving off some vibe only they can sense.
Seriously, I have experienced this a number of times.
(and shot my foot off because I got giddy over the attention.)
Also, there's a corollary. When you've broken up with someone that you're still attached to? Instant turnoff.
they'll cross the street when they see you coming.
It's like they share single command module mind or something. love one, love em all. Hate one, hate em all.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at April 03, 2013 03:58 PM (Kpn/z)
In order to feel full when you're starving, you eat kleenex or toilet paper or regular paper.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Take us away. at April 03, 2013 03:58 PM (Gk3SS)
That's why I've been acting pissy.
I ask Kate for a date and get passed over for some young Yankee imperialist warmonger high school student and I get stuck with this "Dennis Rodman" thing.
Posted by: Kim "Cake Eater"Jong-un at April 03, 2013 03:59 PM (mETGQ)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 03, 2013 03:59 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at April 03, 2013 04:00 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 03, 2013 04:00 PM (piMMO)
I'm glad young marriage is working out for Shaw, but for the majority of women, dating and cohabitating until they're more sure is working out just fine. If he's good enough to marry, he'll still be around when you're ready to make that leap.
I don't think Mad Mandy would ever find out because if he hung around long enough, by the time she's ready to marry him he's locked up in a mental hospital somewhere
Posted by: kbdabear at April 03, 2013 04:00 PM (mCvL4)
Posted by: the bearded UNIX god at April 03, 2013 04:00 PM (j3uk1)
Posted by: Dingbat at April 03, 2013 04:00 PM (PdHlY)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 03, 2013 04:00 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: baldilocks at April 03, 2013 04:00 PM (Su0W2)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 03, 2013 04:01 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at April 03, 2013 04:01 PM (JDIKC)
Posted by: the bearded UNIX god at April 03, 2013 04:01 PM (j3uk1)
There was a Drudge link yesterday that I didn't read but I take it from the accompanying photo that skinny models are eating tissue paper to fill up their stomachs rather than eating real food.
Posted by: andycanuck at April 03, 2013 07:58 PM (VwC86)
--Isn't there dioxin in that shit that can kill you, though?
Or is dioxin a scare from the '80s that I do not know no longer exists?
Posted by: logprof at April 03, 2013 04:01 PM (+iA5G)
Posted by: Ma Bell at April 03, 2013 04:02 PM (RLdcX)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 03, 2013 04:02 PM (bddKN)
skinny models are eating tissue paper to fill up their stomachs rather than eating real food.
Oh, the humanity!!!!
Posted by: Sheryl Crowe at April 03, 2013 04:02 PM (iT7+e)
Posted by: t-bird at April 03, 2013 04:02 PM (oJQ+J)
Posted by: toby928© for TB at April 03, 2013 04:02 PM (QupBk)
Oh, you missed it?
Article the other day in DC? about one model who got canned writing a book about the evils and travails of the fashion world.
Talking about how the models don't eat or eat tissues to fill their stomach and make them feel full.
I'd be worried about something getting plugged up.
Tissue paper isn't plumbing friendly.
Course when you took a shit you wouldn't have to wipe.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at April 03, 2013 04:02 PM (Kpn/z)
Not sure, but you'd be shittin' paper mache', and I'm thinkin' that pinata would clog the commode.
Posted by: Tobacco Road at April 03, 2013 04:03 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 03, 2013 04:03 PM (bddKN)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 03, 2013 04:03 PM (piMMO)
If you're eating toilet paper, you generally aren't taking in enough to need to eliminate it. Of course, if you're eating toilet paper, you are probably also taking laxatives so that's not a problem then.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Take us away. at April 03, 2013 04:03 PM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: Oprah's Dick at April 03, 2013 04:03 PM (MhA4j)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at April 03, 2013 08:01 PM (JDIKC)
_________
What in the HELL are you yammering on about? I was in college almost 20 years ago. I had no intention of being in a relationship that lasted longer than a day or two.
And PUA is about alcohol and money? Dude seriously get off the crack. Nobody with money puts up with PUA.
You need help.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 03, 2013 04:04 PM (HDgX3)
Posted by: the bearded UNIX god at April 03, 2013 04:04 PM (j3uk1)
Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at April 03, 2013 04:04 PM (dvRYt)
What's the most painless way to kill yourself?
That's where I am right now. Can't go back. Nothing going forward.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ drinking heavily at April 03, 2013 04:04 PM (hO8IJ)
skinny models are eating tissue paper to fill up their stomachs rather than eating real food.
Paste has more flavor.
Posted by: Joe Biden at April 03, 2013 04:05 PM (mETGQ)
Posted by: zsasz at April 03, 2013 04:05 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 03, 2013 04:05 PM (bddKN)
Posted by: Albie Damned at April 03, 2013 07:53 PM (Yhu4q)
Do that to a woman and you'd better have your dentist on speed dial.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at April 03, 2013 04:05 PM (Kpn/z)
Posted by: Oprah's Dick at April 03, 2013 04:05 PM (MhA4j)
Posted by: Ma Bell at April 03, 2013 04:05 PM (RLdcX)
Posted by: baldilocks at April 03, 2013 04:06 PM (Su0W2)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at April 03, 2013 04:06 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: the bearded UNIX god at April 03, 2013 04:07 PM (j3uk1)
Posted by: toby928© for TB at April 03, 2013 04:07 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at April 03, 2013 04:07 PM (wR+pz)
Posted by: zsasz at April 03, 2013 04:07 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Dept. Of Accuracy Dept. at April 03, 2013 04:07 PM (MhA4j)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at April 03, 2013 04:07 PM (JDIKC)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 03, 2013 04:07 PM (piMMO)
Haven't been to WalMart on Unwed Mother Night lately, have you?
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ drinking heavily at April 03, 2013 04:08 PM (hO8IJ)
Just because your Saturday nights ended with you at home jacking off alone, don't take out your frustrations on me.
And I still want to know how 2012 was affected by PUA. Are you really saying the election was someone influenced by how much pussy dudes are getting these days?
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 03, 2013 04:08 PM (HDgX3)
Posted by: Dept. Of Accuracy Dept. at April 03, 2013 04:08 PM (MhA4j)
Posted by: Thorvald at April 03, 2013 04:08 PM (1V6Pv)
Because if she were to come out and stand for some different and well defined system it would allow us to bitch about it the same way she bitches about things now. It is just too easy to perceive problems and complain about them without offering any viable alternative. Whatever she has in mind, I cannot believe it would empower women any more than the current arrangement where men essentially beg and bribe women for their indulgences. It is obvious who holds all of the power in that arrangement and women would be fools to give it up.
But there is also the whole leftist, elitist angle here as well. Heaven forfend Upton should have to even think about consorting with someone so far beneath her station. After all, she has achieved her rank through the sheer merit of having a tremendous rack.
And there is the irony. No one would neither know nor care who Kate Upton is were it not for the lust of men who want to bed her, or at least ogle her tremendous tatas. She has profited greatly from their attentions and she is a damn sight smarter than Marcotte in that she knows not to insult the hand that feeds her. All that Marcotte looks at is what the other hand is doing.
Posted by: Thatch at April 03, 2013 04:09 PM (qYvEa)
Posted by: Waterhouse at April 03, 2013 04:09 PM (95QWT)
Posted by: toby928© for TB at April 03, 2013 04:09 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 03, 2013 04:09 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: the bearded UNIX god at April 03, 2013 04:09 PM (j3uk1)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 03, 2013 04:10 PM (sZ7js)
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at April 03, 2013 04:10 PM (wR+pz)
Please do not carry this out, HeatherRadish. There's at least one porta john in Colorado that will miss your ass.
Wait, that didn't sound right.
But don't do it, anyway
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at April 03, 2013 04:11 PM (QTHTd)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 03, 2013 04:11 PM (bddKN)
Posted by: Joejm65 at April 03, 2013 04:11 PM (XaMqH)
Posted by: zsasz at April 03, 2013 04:11 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Gmac - Waiting for the revolution at April 03, 2013 04:12 PM (IanLz)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 03, 2013 04:12 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Ellen DeGeneres at April 03, 2013 04:12 PM (j3uk1)
Posted by: zsasz at April 03, 2013 04:12 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at April 03, 2013 04:12 PM (JDIKC)
Posted by: Jones in CO at April 03, 2013 04:13 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at April 03, 2013 04:14 PM (wR+pz)
But what can we really do about it? Mr. Moo Moo just won't go away.
Posted by: lowandslow at April 03, 2013 04:15 PM (Fz2C7)
"Why am I not universally loved with my flawless insights, superior intellect, and irresistible sexuality?"
What she needs is to be at a party where someone she admires gets drunk and doesn't know his or her voice carries when the person talks about what he or she really thinks of Mad Mandy
Posted by: kbdabear at April 03, 2013 04:15 PM (mCvL4)
Posted by: Thorvald at April 03, 2013 04:15 PM (1V6Pv)
Posted by: Serial Killer with Tickets to Les Miz at April 03, 2013 04:15 PM (LCRYB)
Posted by: Jerry at April 03, 2013 04:17 PM (4SKYj)
Posted by: Y-not at April 03, 2013 04:18 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: A Ficus at April 03, 2013 04:18 PM (LCRYB)
The world wouldn't notice. Well, the IRS would be a few bucks short, but not enough to make a significant impact.
As a childless woman, I'm a "parasite on society", as a never-married woman I'm "destroying America" and ruining the culture; as a balding middle-aged woman those things will never change.
I think it may be time to step away from knowing what's happening in the world. Ain't nothing more depressing than the news right now.
It's not the news.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ drinking heavily at April 03, 2013 04:18 PM (hO8IJ)
You are too smart. You are too worthy of staying around to see what life brings.
You are tough. you are.
love,
willow.
stay and kick rears with all of us. we need to start fighting back.
Posted by: willow at April 03, 2013 04:18 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Dept. Of Accuracy Dept. at April 03, 2013 04:18 PM (MhA4j)
Posted by: Y-not at April 03, 2013 04:18 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone at April 03, 2013 04:19 PM (A2jNh)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 03, 2013 04:19 PM (bddKN)
{{Heather}}
Well, for my part, if I ever accused you of "ruining the culture", I meant it in a good way. Misanthrope, remember :^)
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at April 03, 2013 04:21 PM (QTHTd)
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at April 03, 2013 04:23 PM (wR+pz)
Posted by: Dept. Of Accuracy Dept. at April 03, 2013 04:23 PM (MhA4j)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 03, 2013 04:24 PM (bddKN)
Posted by: thunderb at April 03, 2013 04:24 PM (+afNf)
Fuck the people who say you need to have a child to "have an impact."
The most influential person in my 8 year old autistic son's life right now is my husband's 40 year old single coworker who has Aspergers.
All lives are like a stone in still water. There's ripples of impact far beyond anything we see.
Posted by: Lauren at April 03, 2013 04:24 PM (wsGWu)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 03, 2013 04:25 PM (sZ7js)
Posted by: Thorvald at April 03, 2013 04:25 PM (1V6Pv)
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at April 03, 2013 04:25 PM (wR+pz)
Posted by: Dept. Of Accuracy Dept. at April 03, 2013 04:26 PM (MhA4j)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at April 03, 2013 04:26 PM (bxiXv)
people can be crass, and unfeeling jerks ! why let others decide Who you are and Your worth?
You are witty, fun, smart, Why let anyone else determine where your going or who you want to end up?
Heather, you can not allow others to determine your worth!
People are messed up,
from families to chat no one is immune to unthinking people.
How about a vacation I have room?
Posted by: willow at April 03, 2013 04:26 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 03, 2013 04:26 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 03, 2013 04:27 PM (bddKN)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at April 03, 2013 04:28 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Ace's liver at April 03, 2013 04:29 PM (8T0N0)
Posted by: kbdabear at April 03, 2013 04:29 PM (mCvL4)
Posted by: thunderb at April 03, 2013 04:30 PM (+afNf)
being a friend , being a good soul ,
creating things people love etc.
Posted by: willow at April 03, 2013 04:31 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone at April 03, 2013 04:31 PM (A2jNh)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 03, 2013 04:31 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Thorvald at April 03, 2013 04:32 PM (1V6Pv)
Posted by: zsasz at April 03, 2013 04:33 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: thunderb at April 03, 2013 04:33 PM (+afNf)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 03, 2013 04:34 PM (bddKN)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 03, 2013 04:35 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 03, 2013 04:37 PM (sZ7js)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 03, 2013 04:38 PM (GEICT)
Sometimes actually asking for someone that knows hwo to help is a good answer when you're at this place.
use one of the numbers fenolon typed out.
if you want to just take a vacation to think you can come to my house.
I have a couple of empty bedrooms , my space is humble but livable.
you aren't alone.
Posted by: willow at April 03, 2013 04:39 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at April 03, 2013 04:39 PM (bxiXv)
Heather if you are feeling suicidal don't do it. My father committed suicide. Don't do it.
Posted by: thunderb at April 03, 2013 04:40 PM (+afNf)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 03, 2013 04:40 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 03, 2013 08:38 PM (GEICT)
She's on twitter....she's ok.
Posted by: Tami[/i] at April 03, 2013 04:40 PM (X6akg)
Rad
I have always thought you were one of the coolest people around this place. Get a good nights sleep. Come back in the morning
Posted by: Albie Damned at April 03, 2013 04:42 PM (Yhu4q)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 03, 2013 04:42 PM (bddKN)
we are REAL people, imperfect some of us breeders (light moment i hope) some of us not.
But we are Real.
and we Care about You, because We have read your typing for a long time, You are smart, and kind, You do have many friends.
We are Real, we do Care. please type back
Posted by: willow at April 03, 2013 04:42 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at April 03, 2013 04:44 PM (bxiXv)
Mother Theresa. Unmarried and childless. What a parasite.
Posted by: thunderb at April 03, 2013 04:45 PM (+afNf)
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ drinking heavily at April 03, 2013 08:18 PM (hO8IJ)
Hell, if that's it I have one or two I'll donate.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde at April 03, 2013 04:45 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: thunderb at April 03, 2013 04:49 PM (+afNf)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 03, 2013 04:49 PM (bddKN)
Posted by: Dan Kauffman at April 03, 2013 04:51 PM (K6mgj)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 03, 2013 04:51 PM (piMMO)
Mary Cassatt. Jane Austin. Emily Bronte. Dorthea Dix. Susan B. Anthony. Queen Elizabeth the First. Unmarried and Childless
Posted by: thunderb at April 03, 2013 04:54 PM (+afNf)
Heather is in some pretty high falootin company. She should shove these names down her relatives throats
Posted by: thunderb at April 03, 2013 04:57 PM (+afNf)
You do!
you do, and you are smart, witty, fun, and talented.
Posted by: willow at April 03, 2013 04:58 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone at April 03, 2013 05:00 PM (A2jNh)
... and a big fan of Lenin
Srsly, we can do better than Keller and, for that matter, Parks
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at April 03, 2013 05:03 PM (QTHTd)
I would love to be as strong as rosa parks or harriet tubman or condi
hell Mary Richards from mary tyler moore show, heck i admired her for her class.
Posted by: willow at April 03, 2013 05:03 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: willow at April 03, 2013 05:04 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: willow at April 03, 2013 05:05 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: thunderb at April 03, 2013 05:06 PM (+afNf)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 03, 2013 05:13 PM (bddKN)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 03, 2013 05:17 PM (bddKN)
Posted by: IntheBellyoftheBeast at April 03, 2013 05:34 PM (A5iH4)
and Math! you know math.
Posted by: willow at April 03, 2013 05:38 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Y-not at April 03, 2013 05:38 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Fcukin' Aye, Right! at April 03, 2013 06:01 PM (8bkpr)
Heather,
I think you mentioned years ago that you worked at John Deere. That right there is enough for me to think you are a great person. Seriously, you are a great person.
Posted by: Ronster at April 03, 2013 06:06 PM (4PYOi)
Posted by: Todd the sofa king at April 03, 2013 06:11 PM (S/z4W)
---
Congrats - you just discovered what a "feminist" is, and if you happen to be a man in a domestic relations case, ya better hope the Judge isn't one.
Posted by: Saltydonnie at April 03, 2013 06:11 PM (XG4Sp)
If you look at all of Amanda Marcotte's positions and writings, isn't it rather obvious she despises men and will always, and I do mean always,
Yes.
Posted by: Decaf at April 03, 2013 06:13 PM (ThU4K)
I'm married and childless. In Utah, land o' big families! And now I'm jobless, too. It is not fun when people have no idea what to make of me, but it is what it is. Good people adjust and get past the stereotypes and expectations of what we're "supposed" to be doing. Bad people or dumb people aren't worth worrying about.
Y-not, a couple we know are also childless and have decided not to put themselves through the pain of IVF or adopting. In the beginning they used to explain now they just go 'meh' and they've been happy together for over thirty years.
Posted by: Decaf at April 03, 2013 06:18 PM (ThU4K)
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I know, Amanda, I know. Rielle's baby should have been yours.
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You know, because that is how you treat adults and show respect- don't assume they can speak for themselves
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Posted by: andycanuck at April 03, 2013 02:52 PM (VwC86)