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August 29, 2013

American Legion Approves Resolutions To Correct IRS Overreach
— Gabriel Malor

I mentioned the other day that the American Legion and other veterans organizations are concerned about IRS targeting. Kansas Sen. Moran got the ball rolling on this issue and now the American Legion convention has approved resolutions to respond.

It's like this. As a tax-exempt veterans patriotic organization, the American Legion has to demonstrate to IRS upon request that its membership complies with statutory limits. For example, at least 75% of members have to be past or present members of the Armed Forces with the rest being "cadets or. . . spouses, widows, widowers, ancestors, or lineal descendants." That last part is from statute.

According to the IRS manual that Lois Lerner's Office of Tax Exempt Organizations uses, this "other members" group that includes lineal descendants is limited to two degrees of consanguinity. IOW, IRS says only sons and grandsons count and that Legion posts can be fined if, for example, their membership includes great-grandsons, stepsons, and adopted sons. The Legion wants IRS to abide by statute, and one of the resolutions that passed yesterday was to seek congressional action on that point.

To give you another example, IRS is using a different set of dates to determine whether an individual is a wartime veteran than have been approved by Congress for the American Legion and the Veterans of Foreign Wars. Because of this manipulation, Legion posts that have been audited have faced the threat of fines from IRS officials who say the posts aren't complying with the IRS manual.

It should go without saying that to the extent the IRS manual deviates from statute no Legion post (or any other veterans patriotic organization) should have to comply. The Legion is working to get IRS to correct its manual or, failing that, asking Congress to step in.

Disclaimer: the American Legion arranged airfare and my hotel, as well as a per diem, so that I could attend their national convention. The American Legion had no editorial oversight of this post or any of my other coverage here or on Twitter.

Posted by: Gabriel Malor at 07:10 AM | Comments (197)
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1 The world is upside down.

Posted by: Infidel at August 29, 2013 07:13 AM (O/fK8)

2 We know who this government thinks it's real enemies are.

Posted by: steevy at August 29, 2013 07:14 AM (9XBK2)

3 First, who the fuck appointed Lois Lerner overlord? Not me.

People using the IRS in contravention of the law need to go to jail. Period.

Why are we still discussing this as the future felon, Lois Lerner, tans on a beach somewhere at taxpayer expense?

Congress needs to grow some balls and if this administration wants to continue being an accessory (or direct participant) in a criminal conspiracy or outright felonious behavior they should all get a ticket to Club Fed.

Posted by: Marcus at August 29, 2013 07:16 AM (GGCsk)

Member of AL Auxiliary--this crap angers me sooooo much. Since when does an org. like the AL need targeting by ANY gov't agency? I don't think my dad, uncles, g-father, etc., signed up so this petty, invasive, vicious "oversight" by IRS could be used as a weapon against averagely patriotic Americans.

Goddammit. I am so discouraged I usually never even comment, because hopeless.

Posted by: Quint&Jessel, Sea of Azof, Bly, UK at August 29, 2013 07:16 AM (7v5Ct)

The American Legion is a large organization and its members vote. And they know how to contact their members of congress.

So yes, I do advise the IRS to go ahead and attack the American Legion because I believe the IRS cannot have too many enemies at once.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Get One Vituperation at the regular price, second Vituperation half off! at August 29, 2013 07:16 AM (hLRSq)

6 "The American Legion had no editorial oversight of this post or any of my other coverage here or on Twitter." Don't try to fool us, Gabe, we know you're just an American Legion apparatchik.

Posted by: Frank Underwood (D-SC) at August 29, 2013 07:17 AM (OpaBw)

7 Will add that low-level Feds don't have anything to do with "making policy...."

Posted by: Quint&Jessel, Sea of Azof, Bly, UK at August 29, 2013 07:17 AM (7v5Ct)

8 Just curious where a substantive position on reforming the IRS will be on the Republican platform.

And no, that twerp Reince offering fucking platitudes to the Serf masses won't do.

Posted by: Marcus at August 29, 2013 07:18 AM (GGCsk)

9 I know how to deal with this.

Posted by: Kim Jong-un at August 29, 2013 07:18 AM (DrC22)

10 Lois Lerner: still getting paid

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 29, 2013 07:18 AM (9Xc5j)

11 I'm the son of a member and the grandson of a two-time post commander. I'd love to watch them stick it in and break it off on the IRS.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at August 29, 2013 07:19 AM (/Crba)

12 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 29, 2013 07:20 AM (/PCJa)

13 Sons and grandsons=children and grandchildren?

Posted by: baldilocks at August 29, 2013 07:20 AM (Tnlh/)

14 Burn it down. Scatter the stones. Salt the earth where it stood.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 29, 2013 07:20 AM (/PCJa)

15 So does this mean Democrats will continue to campaign on a theme that the IRS is simply "misunderstood"?

Posted by: Marcus at August 29, 2013 07:20 AM (GGCsk)

16 BTW, congratulations on getting to go to the convention. Hope it was a good time.

Posted by: Frank Underwood (D-SC) at August 29, 2013 07:20 AM (OpaBw)

17 Sure Gabe, we understand that the AL didn't pay you. :wink,wink: Is your next trip to beautiful Malaysia, the Pearl of the Orient?

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at August 29, 2013 07:21 AM (BXLPR)

18 So I guess the IRS figures that anyone who can link their heritage to someone that actually fought in our Revolution is not worthy of membership?

Posted by: Marcus at August 29, 2013 07:22 AM (GGCsk)

19 15 So does this mean Democrats will continue to campaign on a theme that the IRS is simply "misunderstood"?

Posted by: Marcus at August 29, 2013 11:20 AM (GGCsk)

Yes, in much the same way that mothers of murdering psychopaths think their darling boo-boo who carved 30 people into origami with a chainsaw is just misunderstood.

Posted by: joncelli at August 29, 2013 07:22 AM (RD7QR)

20 I was a member of the AL for a bit--no, not the auxiliary. I think that the Obama Administration merely wants to check the AL roles against their potential terrorist list and/or add them *to* the terrorist list.

Posted by: baldilocks at August 29, 2013 07:23 AM (Tnlh/)

One would think that the First Amendment would guarantee the free association of everyone without governmental intrusion or "oversight."

Sadly, this is no longer the case.

BTW, Gabe, how'd the MoMee go?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at August 29, 2013 07:23 AM (0HooB)

But you see, the IRS can issue regulations (like the EPA), and regulations have the force of law, and can even be tried in special regulatory court, and so on. This means that even when a regulation or internal document contradicts a real law or statute passed by Congress and signed by a President, you have to convince a federal court that this isn't a matter for the regulatory court, that you have standing, and the matter is ripe for consideration.

By the time this all happens, you've either spent tons of money to defend yourself or give in and negotiate some sort of settlement to limit your damages.

One hell of a racket.

Posted by: Virginia SoCon once again! at August 29, 2013 07:24 AM (+/C3g)

If the American Legion can get Gabe, they can get to anybody.

We need a new tactic.

Posted by: N, S and A at August 29, 2013 07:25 AM (TOk1P)

24 rolls

Posted by: baldilocks at August 29, 2013 07:26 AM (Tnlh/)

25 Hhhmmm...I let my AL membership lapse. I can't think of a better reason to renew it.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 29, 2013 07:26 AM (1/RiT)

26 I detect the fine hand of lawyers here. What other breed of asshole would attempt to redefine consanguinity so as to deny citizens benefits? Oh wait, these are Democrat regulators...forget my comment!

Posted by: Weimar Republican at August 29, 2013 07:26 AM (XdnQT)

27 Meanwhile, lib orgs like Media Matters and ACORN's progeny...

Posted by: zsasz at August 29, 2013 07:26 AM (MMC8r)

28 Posted by: Virginia SoCon once again! at August 29, 2013 11:24 AM (+/C3g) Paging AtC. AtC to the white "Delegation Doctrine" courtesy phone...

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 29, 2013 07:26 AM (/PCJa)

29 No person is illegal.

Posted by: DNC Voting Laws at August 29, 2013 07:27 AM (6xhLc)

30 the white "Delegation Doctrine" courtesy phone...

White? Raaaaaacist.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at August 29, 2013 07:27 AM (/kI1Q)

31 Um...heh..... So if adopted children don't count.... where does that leave the children of all of these new "gay families" coming out of military service?

Posted by: phil at August 29, 2013 07:28 AM (QzdcC)

No person is illegal.

However, some persons are more legal than others.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at August 29, 2013 07:28 AM (0HooB)

33 So if adopted children don't count.... where does that leave the children of all of these new "gay families" coming out of military service?

They're not going to audit the membership rolls of the LGBTTQFV Legion.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at August 29, 2013 07:29 AM (/kI1Q)

34 Um...heh..... So if adopted children don't count.... where does that leave the children of all of these new "gay families" coming out of military service? Doh!

Posted by: rickb223 at August 29, 2013 07:29 AM (E7Zh9)

35 Gabriel, I'd love for you to describe in generalities the general physical make up of an American Legion Convention. Lots of flags? Older? Pins, hats and jackets with representational meaning of wars/conflicts fought?

Posted by: mare at August 29, 2013 07:29 AM (A98Xu)

36 There's an unstated IRS motive here driving this...probably involving eminent domain seizure of some AL posts.

There's no way IRS could believe it could actually extract measurable tax out of the AL

Posted by: Chelsea Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at August 29, 2013 07:30 AM (2BHYC)

37 There's an unstated IRS motive here driving this You think?

Posted by: baldilocks at August 29, 2013 07:31 AM (Tnlh/)

29 -

Sure, of course. People aren't what they do. In the same sense that Richard Simmons may spend a significant amount of his time sucking c*cks, but it's not nice to call him a c*cksucker.

So let's stop calling illegal aliens, illegal aliens. Let's start calling them people who are here illegally, doing things that are not legal.

Just rolls off the tongue, it does. Not unlike c*cks and Richard Simmons, I suppose.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 29, 2013 07:32 AM (TOk1P)

39 There's no way IRS could believe it could actually extract measurable tax out of the AL
Posted by: Chelsea Purp
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It is politically driven harassment. Plain/simple.
Leftist thuggery.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at August 29, 2013 07:33 AM (aDwsi)

40 I just read this out loud in my office. Mass rage stroke outbreak occurred. Did I mention I work at Fort Benning?

Posted by: Country Singer at August 29, 2013 07:33 AM (L8r/r)

41 Sorry, no time to chat. I'm off to Mcdonald's for lunch. Hope to see y'all there.

Posted by: redenzo at August 29, 2013 07:34 AM (vx61Q)

42 And by the way, I have no problem with the IRS making sure that the AL meets it statutory requirement to have a 75% past or present Armed Forces participation rate, or when any similar group is required to do the same. However, to paint an arbitrary line that has no basis in the law is wrong. It does, however, reflect the example of the head of the executive branch.

Posted by: Virginia SoCon once again! at August 29, 2013 07:34 AM (+/C3g)

43 and adopted sons. *twitch* *twitch* As an adopted child, there is nothing I can say that won't result in a visit from those nice men in the black SUVs and with sunglasses and earpieces. *twitch* *twitch* Oh. Wait. I thought of something. FUCK YOU YOU MOTHERFUCKING MOTHERFUCKERS. OH. WAIT. BECAUSE MY PARENTAGE WAS ESTABLISHED BY A MEANS OTHER THAN MOTHER FUCKING, THAT DOESN'T COUNT FOR ANYTHING DOES IT YOU UTTER WASTES OF DNA. ARRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHH *twitch* *twitch*
Anyone who comes for my caps will get their kneecaps bitten off.

Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at August 29, 2013 07:35 AM (VtjlW)

44 And "adopted" and "step" sons/daughters? Since when does IRS get to mandate the makeup of a family? Since when are adopted children "less" than bio-children???

Posted by: Quint&Jessel, Sea of Azof, Bly, UK at August 29, 2013 07:35 AM (7v5Ct)

45 I just read this out loud in my office. Mass rage stroke outbreak occurred. Did I mention I work at Fort Benning? Oh, great. There goes Ft. Benning's Mission Readiness. Good job, Country Singer.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 29, 2013 07:35 AM (/PCJa)

30 -

For a second there I thought you were talking about Congressman JIM Moran. I was about to look up Purdue U. on a map and come find you.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 29, 2013 07:36 AM (TOk1P)

47 Are the Elks the same way? Do you have to own an Elk head or something to join? Or know someone that killed and Elk? Or eaten Elk at a restaurant in Vail? And the "Woodman of the World"? WTF are they guys that all use to be these... http://tinyurl.com/r8so5g

Posted by: Billy Bob, Psuedo Intelectual at August 29, 2013 07:36 AM (wR+pz)

48 Posted by: BurtTC at August 29, 2013 11:32 AM

http://tinyurl.com/p66zxmr (NRO)

Â“Today, someone is going to die in that desert, trying to return to their families, women and men are going to die in that desert; someoneÂ’s going to lose a finger, a hand, an eye, a life today because an unscrupulous employer is going to put them in harmÂ’s way, someoneÂ’s going to die; thereÂ’s a woman thatÂ’s going to be raped in a field somewhere in America today because she has no rights in this country, and we need to end that; there are children who are going to cry and there are marriages that are going to be destroyed because someone is going to be deported, and there are going to be children that are going to be left orphaned in this country.Â”

Posted by: CheLC LaWedgie at August 29, 2013 07:36 AM (6xhLc)

49 Again, the regime is just trying to supplement its enemies list.

Posted by: baldilocks at August 29, 2013 07:36 AM (Tnlh/)

50 Illegal aliens are only illegal because of restrictive laws that, although not enforced worth a damn, are too difficult to actually rescind (for now). Soon, these petty restrictions will be swept away (by the inactions of Boehner, McConnell, and Rubio) resulting in a permanent Republican electorate, all will be well and the Democrat's evil plans to continue the enslavement of brown people will be foiled.

Posted by: Chelsea Hrothgar at August 29, 2013 07:37 AM (XdnQT)

51 Posted by: CheLC LaWedgie at August 29, 2013 11:36 AM (6xhLc) You're trying to make me stroke out, aren't you?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 29, 2013 07:37 AM (/PCJa)

52 This commie admin has made every federal agency an arm of the DNC.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 29, 2013 07:37 AM (9Xc5j)

53 Time to join the American Legion.

Posted by: USMC8541 at August 29, 2013 07:37 AM (RcT8p)

54 How come Gabe got an invite and I didn't? I'm smart, not like people say.

Posted by: Freddo Dump at August 29, 2013 07:38 AM (GgPam)

55 First they came for the Caps Lock key, but I had already pried mine off the keyboard, so I said nothing.

Posted by: Martin Niemöller [/i] at August 29, 2013 07:38 AM (U2UQk)

56 Posted by: Billy Bob, Psuedo Intelectual at August 29, 2013 11:36 AM (wR+pz) And in a similar vein, do the Freemasons actually have to do brickwork for free?

Posted by: Chelsea Hrothgar at August 29, 2013 07:38 AM (XdnQT)

57 You're trying to make me stroke out, aren't you? Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 29, 2013

Sorry, Allen. Maybe if you had a blog, you could express these feelings openly.

Posted by: CheLC LaWedgie at August 29, 2013 07:39 AM (6xhLc)

58 Paging AtC. AtC to the white "Delegation Doctrine" courtesy phone... Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 29, 2013 11:26 AM (/PCJa) Look. I'll already twitching on the ground. What more do you want from me and no you can't have video. Can't sleep. Delegation doctrine will eat me.

Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at August 29, 2013 07:40 AM (VtjlW)

59 Anyone who comes for my caps will get their kneecaps bitten off. Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at August 29, 2013 11:35 AM (VtjlW) As usual, nicely said!

Posted by: Chelsea Hrothgar at August 29, 2013 07:40 AM (XdnQT)

60 I played many a Bourre game at WB Williamson American Legion Post 1 in Lake Charles , La. .

Posted by: polynikes at August 29, 2013 07:42 AM (m2CN7)

61 Time to join the American Legion. How do you join the AL? My dad was a Marine in Vietnam, but he's not a member himself. Do I have to get him to join first?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 29, 2013 07:42 AM (/PCJa)

62 Look. I'll already twitching on the ground. What more do you want from me and no you can't have video. Damn. My weekend is shot. Might as well go fishing.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 29, 2013 07:42 AM (E7Zh9)

63 Look. I'll already twitching on the ground. What more do you want from me and no you can't have video. In fairness to me (why should I care about the rest of you?) I did mention the 'D' word PRIOR to your all caps-lock rant. So it's not like I knew you were already twitching on the floor.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 29, 2013 07:43 AM (/PCJa)

64 You fringe right winged kooks and your Fauxny Scandals! The President has more important things to deal with like the vast injustices and rampant discrimination against the oppressed, transgendered and bisexual Undocumented Workers...

Posted by: Jay Carney at August 29, 2013 07:44 AM (PLOz8)

65 I guess I've missed AtC's rants on the D-D before. I've never mastered how to search this site. Someone care to either tell me how or link one of her masterpieces?

Posted by: Virginia SoCon once again! at August 29, 2013 07:45 AM (+/C3g)

49 -

That is absolutely beautiful.

I'm a behavioralist, Mr. Guiterrez (if that is your real name), if people are dying and being raped in the desert, my suggestion is STOP TRYING TO CROSS THE DAMN DESERT!

Posted by: BurtTC at August 29, 2013 07:45 AM (TOk1P)

And in a similar vein, do the Freemasons actually have to do brickwork for free? Posted by: Chelsea Hrothgar at August 29, 2013 11:38 AM (XdnQT)

What about their free childrens' hospitals? Does someone want a piece of those as well?

Posted by: Mustbequantum at August 29, 2013 07:45 AM (MIKMs)

Anyone who comes for my caps will get their kneecaps bitten off.

We must ban step stools.

Posted by: garrett at August 29, 2013 07:46 AM (sH+Xt)

69 Next up for audit: The Lions Club. We can't have people offering privately provided free healthcare after all.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 29, 2013 07:46 AM (/PCJa)

70 If this story does not hit AOSHQ today, I quit;

>Booker says rival's remarks 'callous' and 'bigoted'<

The dust-up began when Booker told the Washington Post he isn't bothered about speculation he's gay. That assertion, Lonegan declared in an interview with a conservative online publication, was "weird."

"I personally like being a guy," Lonegan told Newsmax.

Booker Â– the Democratic mayor of Newark, New Jersey Â– said that sentiment amounted to a prejudiced view of gay men.

I'm a little confused when being a gay man was considered "masculine".

Notwithstanding of course, Bookers "late night manicures and pedicures".

Posted by: Marcus at August 29, 2013 07:46 AM (GGCsk)

71 Bureaucrats gonna bureaucrat.

This is the same kind of crap they're trying to pull with credit unions. Uncle Sugar wants his money, and all this is is a way for them to try and steal as much as possible. Note that jury nullification isn't even an option, since this is all regulatory court bullshit.

The will of the people, indeed.

Posted by: Clownf*cker at August 29, 2013 07:47 AM (sPO/s)

72 ...and let's not even talk about what the Odd Fellows have to do to belong to that organization.

Posted by: jwpaine @PirateBallerina at August 29, 2013 07:47 AM (/lWM8)

57 -

That's what I was wondering. I hate the smell of wet cement.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 29, 2013 07:47 AM (TOk1P)

Posted by: CheLC LaWedgie at August 29, 2013 11:36 AM (6xhLc)

Of course it would be just as easy and more truthful to write a rant about how another person will die by a hit and run illegal , how another woman will be raped by another illegal, how another citizen will have their identiy stolen by an illegal , etc. etc etc.

Posted by: polynikes at August 29, 2013 07:47 AM (m2CN7)

75 Next up for audit: The Lions Club. After that? Scottish Rite Hospitals! Lean Forward! Ho!

Posted by: rickb223 at August 29, 2013 07:47 AM (E7Zh9)

76 I love the beefsteak dinners and $1.00 Yengling night at my local VFW.

Always for a good cause too. God bless them.

Posted by: dananjcon at August 29, 2013 07:48 AM (jvd3N)

77 When's the last time a black church got its 501(C) reviewed for politicizin' from the pulpit?

Posted by: zsasz at August 29, 2013 07:48 AM (MMC8r)

78 We can't have people offering privately provided free healthcare after all. Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 29, 2013 11:46 AM (/PCJa) Note to IRS Compliance Division: Check out those damn guys with funny hats, Shriners I think they're called.

Posted by: Chelsea Hrothgar at August 29, 2013 07:48 AM (XdnQT)

79 35 Um...heh..... So if adopted children don't count.... where does that leave the children of all of these new "gay families" coming out of military service? Ha! Awesome point! The old unintended consequences and all! Of course if a Federal entity discriminated in this way against a protected minority in this way, do you think it would actually get reported by the MFM? I guess the other thing the IRS could do is give waivers out only to the adopted children of gay AL members. It's not like this administration has never done that before!

Posted by: runningrn at August 29, 2013 07:49 AM (PLOz8)

80 Posted by: The Obsidian Owl at August 29, 2013 11:47 AM (tWmgi) Shhhh! Don't give them another reason!

Posted by: Chelsea Hrothgar at August 29, 2013 07:49 AM (XdnQT)

81 I'm a behavioralist, Mr. Guiterrez (if that is your real name), if people are dying and being raped in the desert, my suggestion isSTOP TRYING TO CROSS THE DAMN DESERT! Posted by: BurtTC at August 29, 2013 11:45 AM (TOk1P)

Personal responsibility is racist.

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/b][/u] at August 29, 2013 07:49 AM (6T8Ay)

82 Note to IRS Compliance Division: Check out those damn guys with funny hats, Shriners I think they're called. Actually, the Shriners might be okay. What with their fezzes and scimitars, it's easy to confuse them with Muslims.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 29, 2013 07:50 AM (/PCJa)

83 Posted by: BurtTC at August 29, 2013 11:45 AM

Posted by: polynikes at August 29, 2013 11:47 AM

Yeah, but that only happens when they try to go back.

Posted by: CheLC LaWedgie at August 29, 2013 07:50 AM (6xhLc)

84 *SEETHE*

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at August 29, 2013 07:51 AM (4df7R)

85 Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 29, 2013 11:50 AM (/PCJa)

They drive around in little cars so they won't take it so seriously... doesn't sound like any muzzy I know.

Posted by: Clownf*cker at August 29, 2013 07:51 AM (sPO/s)

86 Of course it would be just as easy and more truthful to write a rant about how another person will die by a hit and run illegal , how another woman will be raped by another illegal, how another citizen will have their identiy stolen by an illegal , etc. etc etc.

And it won't change any minds. Proggs emphasize with perps, not victims.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at August 29, 2013 07:51 AM (/kI1Q)

I'm a behavioralist, Mr. Guiterrez (if that is your real name), if people are dying and being raped in the desert, my suggestion isSTOP TRYING TO CROSS THE DAMN DESERT!

And that part about a woman being raped in a field because she has no rights? Rape laws have exceptions?

In what fucking universe does this idiot live? And who on this planet was stupid enough to vote for him?

GAH!!!11

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at August 29, 2013 07:51 AM (0HooB)

88 Note to IRS Compliance Division: Check out those damn guys with funny hats, Shriners I think they're called. And their tiny cars! I wonder if the DOT has colonscoped them yet?

Posted by: rickb223 at August 29, 2013 07:51 AM (E7Zh9)

89 Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 29, 2013 11:50 AM (/PCJa) I forgot their "Ancient Arabic" roots. Those guys get a pass!

Posted by: Chelsea Hrothgar at August 29, 2013 07:51 AM (XdnQT)

90 FUCK THE IRS.

Posted by: Tex Lovera at August 29, 2013 07:52 AM (wtvvX)

The IRS has a huge tax exempt scam right in front of their faces but they're skeered.

Scientology.

Only time they take freedom of religion seriously. That and black churches.

Posted by: polynikes at August 29, 2013 07:52 AM (m2CN7)

92 And their tiny cars! I wonder if the DOT has colonscoped them yet? Posted by: rickb223 at August 29, 2013 11:51 AM (E7Zh9) Hmm, no seat belts and no airbags! And they tend to drive on streets lined with children!

Posted by: Chelsea Hrothgar at August 29, 2013 07:52 AM (XdnQT)

93 45 And "adopted" and "step" sons/daughters? Since when does IRS get to mandate the makeup of a family? Since when are adopted children "less" than bio-children??? Posted by: Quint&Jessel, Sea of Azof, Bly, UK at August 29, 2013 11:35 AM (7v5Ct) ------- Remember the comment from the last thread about tyrants seeking to sow division amongst the people?

Posted by: Nighthawk at August 29, 2013 07:52 AM (0qalu)

94 Only time they take freedom of religion seriously. That and black churches. Don't forget Mosques.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 29, 2013 07:53 AM (/PCJa)

95 92 Note to IRS Compliance Division: Check out those damn guys with funny hats, Shriners I think they're called.
And their tiny cars! I wonder if the DOT has colonscoped them yet?
Posted by: rickb223 at August 29, 2013 11:51 AM (E7Zh9)
The FDA could get them for illegal distribution of candy.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at August 29, 2013 07:53 AM (yE6xT)

96 71 Anyone who comes for my caps will get their kneecaps bitten off. --AtC We must ban step stools. Posted by: garrett at August 29, 2013 11:46 AM (sH+Xt) Dude. Hope you run fast.

Posted by: baldilocks at August 29, 2013 07:53 AM (Tnlh/)

97 In fairness to me (why should I care about the rest of you?) I did mention the 'D' word PRIOR to your all caps-lock rant. So it's not like I knew you were already twitching on the floor. Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 29, 2013 11:43 AM (/PCJa) Facts are misogynistic and homophobic you know. We must ban step stools. Posted by: garrett at August 29, 2013 11:46 AM (sH+Xt) Awww, look! The Ravage is getting a workout!

Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at August 29, 2013 07:53 AM (VtjlW)

98 CHILDREN!

Posted by: Clownf*cker at August 29, 2013 07:53 AM (sPO/s)

99 I forgot their "Ancient Arabic" roots. Those guys get a pass! This brings to mind a question that has weighed on my heart for years. Morocco Mole of Secret Squirrel fame, blind Muzzy or drunken Shriner? Please enlighten!

Posted by: runningrn at August 29, 2013 07:53 AM (PLOz8)

100 And their tiny cars! I wonder if the DOT has colonscoped them yet?

Posted by: rickb223 at August 29, 2013 11:51 AM (E7Zh9)

Just wait until the EPA mandates that the Tin Lizzies be hybrid or electric.

Posted by: Country Singer at August 29, 2013 07:53 AM (L8r/r)

101 *SEETHE* Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Chelsea at August 29, 2013 11:51 AM (4df7R) *rests head on shoulder* Hi.

Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at August 29, 2013 07:54 AM (VtjlW)

102 Unless the American Legion has a B61 it can use on Washington, it's not in the position to "correct" anyone... Although I like the use of the verb "correct"--it reminds me of The Shining.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at August 29, 2013 07:54 AM (Ec6wH)

103 Awww, look! The Ravage is getting a workout! Okay, I'm sorry, but I can no longer see the Ravage as velociraptors. My kids have started watching Transformers (the original cartoon from the 80s) and I remembered that Ravage was the name of the cat thing that Soundwave carried around. Is it okay if the Ravage is now viewed as a Decepticon?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 29, 2013 07:55 AM (/PCJa)

104 Just wait until the EPA mandates that the Tin Lizzies be hybrid or electric.

***

For the children.

Oh yeah, and the middle class.

Posted by: cool arrow at August 29, 2013 07:55 AM (WMsq+)

105 Cats are Decepticons?

Well, that explains a lot, actually.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at August 29, 2013 07:55 AM (/kI1Q)

106

87 -

No doubt the desert has some way of keeping rapes from happening when people are facing el norte.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 29, 2013 07:56 AM (TOk1P)

107 Okay, I'm sorry, but I can no longer see the Ravage as velociraptors. My kids have started watching Transformers (the original cartoon from the 80s) and I remembered that Ravage was the name of the cat thing that Soundwave carried around. Is it okay if the Ravage is now viewed as a Decepticon? Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 29, 2013 11:55 AM (/PCJa)
That is an acceptable alternative. (Prrrriiiiiiimmmmmeeee)

Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at August 29, 2013 07:57 AM (VtjlW)

108

68 I'm a behavioralist, Mr. Guiterrez (if that is your real name), if people are dying and being raped in the desert, my suggestion is STOP TRYING TO CROSS THE DAMN DESERT!

There ya go, blaming the victim again.

Posted by: Anachronda at August 29, 2013 07:57 AM (xGZ+b)

109 *SEETHE*
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Chelsea at August 29, 2013 11:51 AM (4df7R)

*rests head on shoulder* Hi. Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at August 29, 2013 11:54 AM (VtjlW)

*slides 3 foot high platter of lemon squares*

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/b][/u] at August 29, 2013 07:57 AM (6T8Ay)

110

Bullshit. Utter, useless, weak bullshit. This IRS that persecutes Enemies of the State? This gutless Congress that lets the dog-eating cokehead wipe his scrawny ass with the Constitution.

Screw that, Gabe. The Legion should go full Andrew Jackson on that scrunt: "Lois Lerner has made her decision."

**long view of veterans loading weapons**

"Now let her enforce it."

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 29, 2013 07:58 AM (zF6Iw)

111 Good luck explaining Soundwave to your kids.

Posted by: Clownf*cker at August 29, 2013 07:58 AM (sPO/s)

112

Just wait until the EPA mandates that the Tin Lizzies be hybrid or electric.

Or enforce the proper amount of Elizabeth in their composition.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at August 29, 2013 07:59 AM (0HooB)

113 No, cats would be Predacons...

Posted by: Tex Lovera at August 29, 2013 08:00 AM (wtvvX)

114 Soundwave was so much cooler than Starscream. Starscream's voice bugged the hell out of me. Whiny bitch.

Posted by: Mainah at August 29, 2013 08:00 AM (659DL)

115 Good luck explaining Soundwave to your kids. Meh. A boom-box isn't *so* different from modern CD/Radios. And we still have cassette tapes around the house. The fun part are my son's questions (we've nick-named him Spock) like "Why do some of the Transformers have mouths and some don't?" or "Why do the Autobots turn into cars but the Decepticons turn into airplanes?" The answer "Because that's how they're drawn" doesn't seem to satisfy...

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 29, 2013 08:00 AM (/PCJa)

116 National fast-food wage protests kick off in New York

"This is our fourth strike in New York, and now we have 50 cities striking with us," said Tyeisha Batts, 27, one of the protesters, who has worked in fast food for six years. "I'm ready for a change."

Here's a change.... How about getting a fucking education? Then you can get a real job.

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/b][/u] at August 29, 2013 08:01 AM (6T8Ay)

117 Thank you, Bannion. *noms* I think I've mentioned before by the Medicare manual for dealing with secondary payer recovery contained, and probably still contains, a section wherein Medicare claimed the right to determine which injuries were caused by an accident and specifically noted that Medicare was not constrained by court orders or rulings on that issue. Oh and Medicare didn't need a doctor or anything like that to decide if it's determination was accurate. Pffffft.

Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at August 29, 2013 08:01 AM (VtjlW)

118 OK, note to self:

"ls -l" does not refresh the list of comments in Firefox.

(too many computers)

Posted by: CheLC LaWedgie at August 29, 2013 08:01 AM (6xhLc)

119 MIserable day in the Office 1) my assistant broke her hand and her boyfriend is braking up with her I think 2) There is minor problem in cashing a big check I got because of the way it is made out- not the end of the world, but still a pain in the ass and a 24-5 day delay because of the holidays 3) My wife is being a pain I think I will go out alone tonight and have a huge steak and some drinks

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 29, 2013 08:01 AM (9Xc5j)

120 IRS: whom to tax? Meanwhile, in Detroit, births and deaths not recorded on paper, only easily manipulated/revised virtual data as the Government Bankruptcy meets the "selfish" private sector. Headline: "Death (certificates) took holiday in wake of bankruptcy filing. City couldn't issue death - or birth - certificates because skittish vendor wanted cash to supply paper"

Posted by: panzernashorn at August 29, 2013 08:02 AM (MhA4j)

121 Why do the Autobots turn into cars but the Decepticons turn into airplanes?

Well, the Autobots are obviously autonormative, the h8rs...

Posted by: Tex Lovera at August 29, 2013 08:02 AM (wtvvX)

122

120 -

I don't know about Transformers, but I know when my male cat is about to ambush you, and start eating your ankle, he makes this sweet little cry.

If that's not a deceptive con, I don't know what is.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 29, 2013 08:02 AM (TOk1P)

123 Soundwave was so much cooler than Starscream. Starscream's voice bugged the hell out of me. Whiny bitch. Oh, he was. And Shockwave was cooler than anyone with the *possible* exception of Megatron. Starscream was supposed to be the whiny, ineffectual one. What bugs me (now that I'm re-watching) is how whiny the Autobots (except Prime and Bumblebee) are.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 29, 2013 08:02 AM (/PCJa)

124 Oh, Yay.

And the response from Barak "Iosif Vissarionovich Stalin" Obama is: "And how many Divisions of IRS Agents does the American Legion have?"

Posted by: Sharkman at August 29, 2013 08:03 AM (5mRmR)

125 That is an acceptable alternative. Frak, not again. /gets out list of words for plural of Utahraptor ...explains the missiles, at least...

Posted by: Brother Cavil misses Crow and Servo at August 29, 2013 08:04 AM (naUcP)

126 And in a similar vein, do the Freemasons actually have to do brickwork for free? Posted by: Chelsea Hrothgar at August 29, 2013 11:38 AM (XdnQT) Only if they were their little aprons.

Posted by: Billy Bob, Psuedo Intelectual at August 29, 2013 08:04 AM (wR+pz)

127 I'm a behavioralist, Mr. Guiterrez (if that is your real name), if people are dying and being raped in the desert, my suggestion is STOP TRYING TO CROSS THE DAMN DESERT! There ya go, blaming the victim again. That is actually the one time where "If you weren't there to begin with" actually applies.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 29, 2013 08:04 AM (E7Zh9)

128

122 -

Wait until he sees "Who Framed Roger Rabbit."

Posted by: Jessica Rabbit at August 29, 2013 08:05 AM (TOk1P)

129 AllenG-

I don't know all the bylaws of Joining the Legion...but their website has some FAQs.
Some of my Riding amigos have been after me for years to Join the American Legion...I just have a hard time joining big Organizations after I joined a violent one in my youth. (heh!, I'm waiting for the Marine Corps to be declared a terrorist organization.)

Posted by: USMC8541 at August 29, 2013 08:05 AM (RcT8p)

130 Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 29, 2013 12:01 PM (6T8Ay) *twitch* *twitch* I heard someone today pointing out that "If you work a 40 hour week at 7.50/hr that comes to about $15k/yr- which is below the poverty line if you're a single parent." Well no duh. So *maybe* those "single parents" should get some education, or hustle their way up the proverbial Corporate Foodchain. Also- if you're a single parent below the poverty line, you're almost certainly receiving all kinds of welfare, so it's not like you're starving (indeed, if they get their wish and their pay suddenly doubles, many of them will find their welfare benefits cut off, and their actual standard of living dropping- which would be about the only good part in suddenly having to pay $10.00 for hamburger).

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 29, 2013 08:06 AM (/PCJa)

131 Inre Transformers: Soundwave was the biggest badass of them all. Quiet. Deadly. My kids are watching the Transformers Prime series and he's still cool there. Just does his shit and walks away.

Posted by: @JohnTant at August 29, 2013 08:06 AM (hNNJ5)

132 Hold it..., did another thread just evaporate?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at August 29, 2013 08:07 AM (aDwsi)

133 140 Hold it..., did another thread just evaporate?
Posted by: Mike Hammer
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No..., just my point and click skills....

Posted by: Mike Hammer at August 29, 2013 08:08 AM (aDwsi)

134 "This is our fourth strike in New York, and now we have 50 cities striking with us," said Tyeisha Batts, 27, one of the protesters, who has worked in fast food for six years. "I'm ready for a change." Massah MacDonald, he lock us in the box at night.

Posted by: zsasz at August 29, 2013 08:08 AM (MMC8r)

135 indeed, if they get their wish and their pay suddenly doubles, many of them will find their welfare benefits cut off, and their actual standard of living dropping- You say that like it's a bad thing.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 29, 2013 08:08 AM (E7Zh9)

136 The American Legion has somehow failed to recognize the benefits of being a Friend Of The Regime.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 29, 2013 08:08 AM (A7zvX)

137 Today's thought od the day for alexthechick and MWR.

http://tinyurl.com/d3b3r

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/b][/u] at August 29, 2013 08:09 AM (6T8Ay)

138 You say that like it's a bad thing. Huh? I said it would be the only good part.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 29, 2013 08:09 AM (/PCJa)

139 indeed, if they get their wish and their pay suddenly doubles, many of them will find their welfare benefits cut off, and their actual standard of living dropping- Provided their hours don't get slashed to nothing. If they still have a job at all.

Posted by: Brother Cavil misses Crow and Servo at August 29, 2013 08:10 AM (naUcP)

140 Provided their hours don't get slashed to nothing. If they still have a job at all. SEIU is behind this. If they get their way, McD's won't be allowed to hire part-time workers any more- only full time. Of course, that doesn't help the ones who then get fired- or the teenagers who then can't get jobs.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 29, 2013 08:11 AM (/PCJa)

141 Oh, just got back from McDonald's. The owner was there. Service was fine, didn't see anyone actually "striking" per se. I did chat with the owner a bit and asked him how things were doing. He said he had enough people on call who wouldn't mind making more dollars to come in and cover anyone who didn't report for work. He also said that the people who would be "striking" would be those he wouldn't mind seeing go anyway, since their job performances are typically in the lower percentiles. Main lesson here...strikes are a more credible threat when you aren't unskilled labor.

Posted by: @JohnTant at August 29, 2013 08:11 AM (hNNJ5)

142 144 The American Legion has somehow failed to recognize the benefits of being a Friend Of The Regime. Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 29, 2013 12:08 PM (A7zvX) Ding!

Posted by: baldilocks at August 29, 2013 08:11 AM (Tnlh/)

143 O/T: today is a grey, rainy, gloomy day. Lunch, however, is a nice big bown of chicken rice soup (nom nom nom) with plenty of creepy-ass crackas. Now, if I can just manage to write a page of the new book, it won't be a wasted day

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 29, 2013 08:11 AM (zF6Iw)

144 As always, thanks for this, Gabe.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 29, 2013 08:12 AM (Fauor)

145

Provided their hours don't get slashed to nothing. If they still have a job at all.

Economics: how does it fucking work?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at August 29, 2013 08:12 AM (0HooB)

146 Bwhahaha! Way o/t but Rush just said kids are going hungrier now under Moochelle's lunch programs than when the Republicans cut funding for school lunches in the 90's.

Posted by: runningrn at August 29, 2013 08:12 AM (PLOz8)

147 big bown of chicken rice soup I'm pretty sure that's racist.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 29, 2013 08:13 AM (/PCJa)

148 I think Lerner and her types are actively scrutinizing any organization that they don't see as helpful to the left or progressive causes.

I guarantee the IRS isn't doing this shit to the NAACP or CAIR or Obama's new Organizing for America. How the hell did OFA get tax deferment when they are clearly a propaganda arm for this administration directly pulled from the campaign?

Posted by: Yip at August 29, 2013 08:13 AM (/jHWN)

149 Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at August 29, 2013 12:12 PM (0HooB) Economics and profits are racist.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 29, 2013 08:13 AM (/PCJa)

150

131 I always wondered this too. Why is there only one Autobot who can turn into a jet and fly? Aren't these guys from SPACE?

Yeah, but then they wouldn't be Autobots, now would they? They'd be Planebots.

Posted by: Anachronda at August 29, 2013 08:14 AM (xGZ+b)

151

I'm pretty sure that's racist.

And it's in a black bowl. With a black spoon. Oh, the injustice!

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 29, 2013 08:14 AM (zF6Iw)

152

I've been a member of the American Legion for years. I always wondered why we were "non-partisan" when one side supports us and the other mocks us. As long as we're in the process of making structural changes, seems the time may be right to make a fundamental change and drop the nonsensical "nonpartisan" stance. .

Posted by: Exceptionally Mediocre at August 29, 2013 08:14 AM (ZKGJl)

153 >>>>How the hell did OFA get tax deferment when they are clearly a propaganda arm for this administration directly pulled from the campaign? ----------------- That's a rhetorical question, right?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 29, 2013 08:15 AM (A7zvX)

154 I always thought the legion was a place where you could get a cheap drink, gamble and act like you were being a patriot. There is one in Lynchburg, SC in the middle of nowhere. Stays open somehow. I am off the to beach and will drive right by it. BBL

Posted by: Billy Bob, Psuedo Intelectual at August 29, 2013 08:15 AM (wR+pz)

155 SEIU is behind this. If they get their way, McD's won't be allowed to hire part-time workers any more- only full time. SEIU meets 29 hour/week OCare.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 29, 2013 08:15 AM (E7Zh9)

156
"Good luck explaining Soundwave to your kids."

"He transforms into a micro-cassette. A micro-cassette. Like in an answering machine. An answering machine. You see, before voice mail...."

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 29, 2013 08:15 AM (kdS6q)

157 I heard someone today pointing out that "If you work a 40 hour week at 7.50/hr that comes to about $15k/yr- which is below the poverty line if you're a single parent."

In 13 states, the single parent could make more than twice that on welfare...and that leaves days and nights free for making the next kid.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at August 29, 2013 08:15 AM (/kI1Q)

158 I heard someone today pointing out that "If you work a 40 hour week at 7.50/hr that comes to about $15k/yr- which is below the poverty line if you're a single parent." How about if people who are working minimum wage jobs refrain from having children? There's this thing that's readily available called free Burt control...

Posted by: runningrn at August 29, 2013 08:15 AM (PLOz8)

159 Come >> 88 *SEETHE* duck! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7x1N3omj1fg

Posted by: Stark DickflÃ¼ssig at August 29, 2013 08:16 AM (Td7pU)

160 OMG, Legion is an American???

I thought the Quarians wiped them out after I refused to let him upload the Reaper software.

/Mass Effect

Posted by: Hollowpoint at August 29, 2013 08:16 AM (SY2Kh)

161 There's this thing that's readily available called free Burt control... We don't talk about that in public.

Posted by: Earnie at August 29, 2013 08:16 AM (/PCJa)

162

SEIU is behind this. If they get their way, McD's won't be allowed to hire part-time workers any more- only full time.

Which is curiously in direct conflict with the goals of TFGCare to make us all part-timers.

This will be fun to watch.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at August 29, 2013 08:16 AM (0HooB)

163 Is it time to have a national conversation about gutting the IRS? Holy shit, they're awful.

Posted by: mare at August 29, 2013 08:17 AM (A98Xu)

164

126 1) my assistant broke her hand and her boyfriend is braking up with her I think

Can't help but wonder if there's a causal link between the two.

Posted by: Anachronda at August 29, 2013 08:17 AM (xGZ+b)

165

And meanwhile, as the nice white pieces of chicken float in a comforting, tasty, hot broth, the black spoon is continually dipped and pulled from the steamy depths, inevitably recalling the days when Southern plantation owners would drop their slaves, screaming, into boiling, satly water before pulling them out again to whip them and rape their women!

NO JUSTICE, NO PEACE!

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 29, 2013 08:17 AM (zF6Iw)

166 I actually joined the AL a couple of years ago, but haven't been to a post. I wanted to join to help financially support them. No post here in town, but there are two within 15 minutes in other towns, so I need to get over to one of them an get more personally involved... if only go to have a beer every once in awhile.

Posted by: Yip at August 29, 2013 08:17 AM (/jHWN)

167 How about if people who are working minimum wage jobs refrain from having children? There's this thing that's readily available called free Burt control...

Back off, lady. He's my man, you hear?

Posted by: Ernie at August 29, 2013 08:18 AM (SY2Kh)

168 Gabriel Malor, American Legion to be audited by IRS. Remember, you heard it here first...

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie © at August 29, 2013 08:18 AM (1hM1d)

169 3) My wife is being a pain If I'm not being a pain, I'm not doing my job right!

Thank God my hubby is a sweet, tolerant man!

Posted by: runningrn at August 29, 2013 08:18 AM (PLOz8)

170

boiling salty water.

I blame Bush.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 29, 2013 08:18 AM (zF6Iw)

171 Nobody ever asks the white chicken whether it can afford a $34000 handbag.

Posted by: Oprah Winfrey at August 29, 2013 08:19 AM (A7zvX)

172 "The American Legion had no editorial oversight of this post or any of my other coverage here or on Twitter." I think it is obvious that Gabe is in the pocket of Big Legion.

Posted by: Daybrother at August 29, 2013 08:19 AM (+7Pj4)

173 Meh. I always took the 'auto' to be some all encompassing fancy tech lingo standing in for 'automatic,' they don't all need to turn into automobiles.

It never made sense to me that Optimus Prime turns into something that helps him deliver milk to the supermarket and the Decepticons turn into instruments of war. Maybe it's supposed to be symbolic of Autobots' "Purity of Heart."

Posted by: The Obsidian Owl at August 29, 2013 12:18 PM (tWmgi)

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Ummmm..... you guys do know that it's just.a.cartoon....... right????

Posted by: fixerupper at August 29, 2013 08:19 AM (nELVU)

174 How about if people who are working minimum wage jobs refrain from having children? There's this thing that's readily available called free Burt control... Look, I'll admit sometimes life happens. We can say "they shouldn't have kids" all we want. But life isn't always that easy- life is messy sometimes. That said, you can't go to work as a cashier at McDonald's and expect that to be your career. Even if you love the fast food industry, you have to hustle your way up the chain. Store managers get paid decently, for instance. Beyond that, simply the experience of getting in to work on time and being reliable can open doors to other opportunities that *are* capable of supporting you.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 29, 2013 08:19 AM (/PCJa)

175 free Burt control... Back off, lady. He's my man, you hear? Lol! Bad combo of stupid, fat fingers and stupid auto correct!

Posted by: runningrn at August 29, 2013 08:20 AM (PLOz8)

176 "Awww, look! The Ravage is getting a workout!"

Y'know, Alex Borstein was magnificent on Mad TV. "Miss Swan" is pure comic genius. Dunno why I brought that up, but, there you go.

Posted by: mrp at August 29, 2013 08:20 AM (HjPtV)

177 If you're into flat, cheap domestic drafts, stale popcorn, and cigarette smoke so thick you'll have flash-backs to crossing the LD into Iraq, then the American Legion is for you.

Posted by: Exceptionally Mediocre at August 29, 2013 08:21 AM (ZKGJl)

178 124 AtC Will have to find link, but it's worse than that: there is no *statutory* link between Medicare and Social Security, and one can opt out of the former (not paying in, of course, but accessing benefits) but if one does that, one then forfeits ALL SocSec bennies. I interviewed the attorney who's been fighting this (unsuccessfully) twice. Will try to dig up and post links if you'd like.

Posted by: speedster1 on the iPad at August 29, 2013 08:21 AM (yeM7r)

179 It never made sense to me
that Optimus Prime turns into something that helps him deliver milk to
the supermarket and the Decepticons turn into instruments of war.

It's anti-military propaganda. Derp.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at August 29, 2013 08:21 AM (/kI1Q)

180
Yeah, but then they wouldn't be Autobots, now would they? They'd be Planebots.
Posted by: Anachronda

The Autobots could fly in the first season of the cartoon, because cartoons. They just sort of sucked at it.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 29, 2013 08:21 AM (kdS6q)

181 Ummmm..... you guys do know that it's just.a.cartoon....... right???? Silence, heretic.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 29, 2013 08:22 AM (/PCJa)

182 Main lesson here...strikes are a more credible threat when you aren't unskilled labor.

Also, the most enthusiastic union supporters tend to be those who rely on the union for their continued employment- i.e. those who would otherwise be fired for laziness and/or incompetence.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at August 29, 2013 08:22 AM (SY2Kh)

183 I think Lerner and her types are actively ~~scrutinizing~~ harassing any organization that they don't see as helpful to the left or progressive causes.

Posted by: Yip
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FIFY

Posted by: Mike Hammer at August 29, 2013 08:23 AM (aDwsi)

184 Actually, I kind of love Transformers from the 80s. The oil industry is shown to be good and necessary (the two main human characters both work on an off-shore oil rig) and honorable. The military is shown as good and upstanding (though badly outclassed because alien robots). It's even better than the old GI Joe in some ways.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 29, 2013 08:23 AM (/PCJa)

185

126 1) my assistant broke her hand and her boyfriend is braking up with her I think

You try to tell these girls to practice with their hands behind their back, but they don't listen until it's too late.

Posted by: jwest at August 29, 2013 08:24 AM (u2a4R)

186 If you're into flat, cheap domestic drafts, stale popcorn, and cigarette smoke so thick you'll have flash-backs to crossing the LD into Iraq, then the American Legion is for you. Posted by: Exceptionally Mediocre
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Sounds great!

Posted by: Mike Hammer at August 29, 2013 08:24 AM (aDwsi)

187 It never made sense to me that Optimus Prime turns into something that helps him deliver milk to the supermarket and the Decepticons turn into instruments of war. Maybe it's supposed to be symbolic of Autobots' "Purity of Heart."

Posted by: The Obsidian Owl at August 29, 2013 12:18 PM (tWmgi)

Didn't the Autobots want disguises that fit into human society, whereas the Decepticons prolly just chose the most powerful vehicles to work with?

Posted by: ChelseaMonster at August 29, 2013 08:25 AM (v3pYe)

188 "That said, you can't go to work as a cashier at McDonald's and expect that to be your career. Even if you love the fast food industry, you have to hustle your way up the chain. Store managers get paid decently, for instance." My point was that if you have no aspirations beyond working the Fryolater your entire life, you might want to refrain from having kids. If "life" happens, and you happen to have a kid as a single parent, than morally, you have an obligation to strive for something more. I realize that this is an unrealistic and idealistic view, but why should unskilled workers be paid $15/hour or more for no other reason than to provide a living wage to support a family? These jobs are ENTRY level positions! I refuse to pay $10 for a hamburger at a Fast Food restaurant just so someone who has no business having children needs to support their family.

Posted by: runningrn at August 29, 2013 08:27 AM (PLOz8)

189 Ha, yeah. I just enjoy getting arbitrarily analytical. I didn't care about Transformers that much growing up. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and Ghostbusters were my jams.

Posted by: The Obsidian Owl at August 29, 2013 12:22 PM (tWmgi)

What did you think of that Ghostbusters "sequel" cartoon with the goth chick?

Posted by: ChelseaMonster at August 29, 2013 08:27 AM (oY6Yp)

190
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and Ghostbusters were my jams.
Posted by: The Obsidian Owl

*cough* more like Jem *cough*

Those little pink eraser-like M.U.S.C.L.E. figures. They were cool.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 29, 2013 08:27 AM (kdS6q)

191 197 If you're into flat, cheap domestic drafts, stale
popcorn, and cigarette smoke so thick you'll have flash-backs to
crossing the LD into Iraq, then the American Legion is for you.

Posted by: Exceptionally Mediocre
--------------------------
From :
Celebrating Waynesville's proud beer history
Excerpt: "The field of dreams for this event is the American Legion Ballfield at 171 Legion Dr. in downtown Waynesville, and promoters expect more than 20 craft brewers to participate."

Posted by: Mike Hammer at August 29, 2013 08:32 AM (aDwsi)

192 Waynesville, Ohio?

Posted by: mrp at August 29, 2013 08:55 AM (HjPtV)

193 Late to the party but Alex the Chick... THANK YOU. As a vet who became a parent by adoption MY BLOOD IS BOILING. What the actual fuck????

Posted by: Cathy in Chicago at August 29, 2013 08:57 AM (oiTOF)

194

Posted by: CheLC LaWedgie at August 29, 2013 11:36 AM (6xhLc)

I think I'll stay out of that desert; it sounds very dangerous.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Get One Vituperation at the regular price, second Vituperation half off! at August 29, 2013 09:01 AM (hLRSq)

195 Awww, look! The Ravage is getting a workout!

Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at August 29, 2013 11:53 AM (VtjlW)

Great. More bloodstains to mop up.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Get One Vituperation at the regular price, second Vituperation half off! at August 29, 2013 09:03 AM (hLRSq)

196 I, (NAME), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic the IRS; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.

Veterans still honoring our oath active or inactive.

Posted by: FirewithFire at August 29, 2013 09:17 AM (lcwvr)

197 Wrong on both counts ... The IRS Audit Manual requirement to maintain documentation on membership eligibility has been around since the late 1990's and is nothing new. It came into being after a number of VFW and TAL Posts got caught abusing the income tax laws some 20 years ago. Second, the Sons own charter specifically allows for only sons and grandsons (2 degrees of consanguinuity) of veterans eligible to join the Legion - and includes step and adopted relationships. I believe that resolution was to lobby to allow additional degrees of consanguinuity. You also neglected to mention that The American Legion - which touts itself as a "family oriented organization" - once again voted against allowing the male spouses of female veterans to become part of the Sons organization.

Posted by: FedUp at August 29, 2013 07:56 PM (tO/fU)

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