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July 20, 2013

AoSHQ Podcast: Stand Your Ground (w/Guest @seanmdav), Filibuster, Detroit, Liz Cheney
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On today's episode, Sean Davis (@seanmdav) from Media TrackersÂ joins Gabe, Drew, John and me to discuss stand your ground laws, the Zimmerman trial and the Marissa Alexander case.Â Then longtime coblogger Rick Tempest joins us to discuss the GOP senators' cave-in on the filibuster, Detroit (speaking of cave-ins) and Liz Cheney's entry into the Wyoming Senate race. That last one takes some interesting turns, so you'll want to stay 'til the end.

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1 first?

Posted by: Mallfly at July 20, 2013 08:36 AM (bJm7W)

2 a good sign!

Posted by: Mallfly at July 20, 2013 08:36 AM (bJm7W)

3 Cheney got a big boost when McShitty endorsed Enzi.

Posted by: Vic at July 20, 2013 08:39 AM (lZvxr)

4 Apropos of nothing, AIM Surplus has Magpul GEN M3 30rd PMAG for $14.20 http://is.gd/iQzIJb

Posted by: toby928© pale penis person at July 20, 2013 08:41 AM (QupBk)

5 Did you use a beer can for a microphone?

Posted by: Invictus at July 20, 2013 08:42 AM (OQpzc)

6 I think opposing SYG ground laws is very anti-woman. Concealed carry and SYG make women safer.

Why do Democrats hate women? They don't want them to have guns on campii, they don't want abortion mills to be subject to health regs, BUT they are happy to send them to the front lines of combat where they can be blown to pieces.

Curious...

Posted by: Jones in CO at July 20, 2013 08:44 AM (8sCoq)

7 Kinda of OffTopic, but, hey what the heck...in 12 short years we have gone from this:

http://stg.do/ZRVc

To a POTUS who is doing his best to incite racism, racial animus, and race riots for his benefit.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at July 20, 2013 08:45 AM (kXoT0)

8 Took a while to pare that down, eh?

Posted by: logprof at July 20, 2013 08:46 AM (fOFYL)

Did Enzi accept the endorsement? If he does, I'll go ahead and write him off.

Posted by: Invictus at July 20, 2013 08:47 AM (OQpzc)

10 No pictures? How do we know whom to mock without pictures?

Posted by: nom de guerre at July 20, 2013 08:47 AM (0osm3)

11 To a POTUS who is doing his best to incite racism, racial animus, and race riots for his benefit.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at July 20, 2013 12:45 PM (kXoT0)

-- You are so right and I think he is going to get what he wishes for

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at July 20, 2013 08:48 AM (R8hU8)

12 Did anyone yesterday hear Robert Reich of Scranton PA, excoriate the former citizenry of Detroit for causing all of Detroit's current woes by having bailed Detroit?

Posted by: BuddyPC at July 20, 2013 08:48 AM (jfUIE)

13 I don't know anything about this Enzi guy. What's his deal?

Posted by: Jones in CO at July 20, 2013 08:48 AM (8sCoq)

14 Enzi voted against McShitty's amnesty, though. And TARP. And he stands for life and traditional marriage.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at July 20, 2013 08:48 AM (RUw+I)

15 It's as if the Left doesn't beelieve anything it advocates...

Posted by: BuddyPC at July 20, 2013 08:48 AM (jfUIE)

No pictures? How do we know whom to mock without pictures?

Gabe is always the default

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at July 20, 2013 08:49 AM (R8hU8)

17 Democrats want us disarmed because they need victims. If there's crime then they can stump for crime prevention programs, etc. If you have a gun you don't need their help. It's that simple. It's the reason for most of their tsnaces - more victims = more constituents they can offer salvation to.

Oh, it makes tyranny easier, too.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 20, 2013 08:49 AM (2mSdf)

18 Morse code technology in the 21st century!

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at July 20, 2013 08:49 AM (V1ZIU)

It would be awesome if Enzi told McCain to take his endorsement and jam it in his backstabbing ass.

McCain could be trying to sabotage Enzi.

The ball in in Enzi's court.

Posted by: Invictus at July 20, 2013 08:51 AM (OQpzc)

20 Why can't Liz challenge an actual RINO in a purple or red state? Then it would at least be entertaining, and no true downside to the contest.

Posted by: logprof at July 20, 2013 08:53 AM (fOFYL)

21 You say this is an hour long? Is there any way to speed it up like you do with tape when you playback at a higher speed than it was recorded? So they sound like helium breathers, who cares. save thirty minutes.

Posted by: nom de guerre at July 20, 2013 08:54 AM (0osm3)

22 A Solid Voice For Wyoming! Even though I moved her yesterday!

Posted by: Liz "Carpetbagger" Cheney at July 20, 2013 08:54 AM (V1ZIU)

23 Will Danny DeVito play the late Helen "Penguin" Thomas?

Posted by: Felix Steiner at July 20, 2013 08:56 AM (Pd3iz)

24 21 You say this is an hour long? Is there any way to speed it up like you do with tape when you playback at a higher speed than it was recorded? So they sound like helium breathers, who cares. save thirty minutes. Posted by: nom de guerre at July 20, 2013 12:54 PM (0osm3) --In older versions of Windows Media Player you could, IIRC (or maybe that was just with video, never tried with audio).

Posted by: logprof at July 20, 2013 08:56 AM (fOFYL)

25 23 Will Danny DeVito play the late Helen "Penguin" Thomas? Posted by: Felix Steiner at July 20, 2013 12:56 PM (Pd3iz) --Late? Did she die/become undead and I missed the story?

Posted by: logprof at July 20, 2013 08:57 AM (fOFYL)

26 In a nutshell... Liz Cheney has big ambitions, but they involve her, not the Wyoming GOP or the national party excepting her likely presidential ambitions. Rather than run in a competitive primary with Ken Cuccinelli and Bob McDonnell to challenge Democrat incumbent Mark Warner, Liz decided to challenge an old family friend ranked the fourth most conservative senator after Tom Coburn, Ron Wyden and Mike Crapo according to last year's National Journal list. Because Wyoming is friendlier to Cheneys than the state where she actually lives and will spend all of her time if she actually wins. However, Enzi is known and liked throughout Wyoming by his constituents, and he currently enjoys 70% approval ratings. So, Liz Cheney will have to work hard to paint him as old, "confused" and out of touch over the coming months.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at July 20, 2013 08:57 AM (RUw+I)

27 "They have consistently funneled public monies to groups which engage in or counsel criminal activity or the pre-eminence of one race."

Posted by: T. at July 20, 2013 08:57 AM (q0ujQ)

28 instead of stand your ground......RUNAWAY!!!!

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl, RIP Alex Teves at July 20, 2013 08:58 AM (8JJ6O)

29 talk about empowering the lawless and the bullies.....dear God

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl, RIP Alex Teves at July 20, 2013 08:59 AM (8JJ6O)

30
--Late? Did she die/become undead and I missed the story?

Posted by: logprof at July 20, 2013 12:57 PM (fOFYL)

She has assumed room temperature, yes.

Posted by: Invictus at July 20, 2013 08:59 AM (OQpzc)

31 She has assumed room temperature, yes. Posted by: Invictus at July 20, 2013 12:59 PM (OQpzc) --and this did not get its own post?!?!

Posted by: logprof at July 20, 2013 09:01 AM (fOFYL)

32 I don't know anything about this Enzi guy. What's his deal? Posted by: Jones in CO at July 20, 2013 12:48 PM (8sCoq) He married the bakers daughter and stood with Michael outside the Hospital "for your father, your father"

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 20, 2013 09:02 AM (9Xc5j)

33 You say this is an hour long? Is there any way to speed it up like you do with tape when you playback at a higher speed than it was recorded? So they sound like helium breathers, who cares. save thirty minutes.

Play it backwards for a special message from me.

Posted by: Satan at July 20, 2013 09:02 AM (FjJko)

34 --and this did not get its own post?!?!

Posted by: logprof at July 20, 2013 01:01 PM (fOFYL)

They'll include pics. You know they will. I assume they are letting people's breakfast digest first.

Posted by: Invictus at July 20, 2013 09:02 AM (OQpzc)

35 She has assumed room temperature, yes. In fairness, she's probably still cooling down.

Posted by: toby928© pale penis person at July 20, 2013 09:02 AM (QupBk)

36 protests so far are nothing

Posted by: thunderb at July 20, 2013 09:03 AM (zOTsN)

37 protests so far are nothing

Posted by: thunderb at July 20, 2013 01:03 PM (zOTsN)

Fat people don't rebel. They fucked up and made benefits too good.

Posted by: Invictus at July 20, 2013 09:05 AM (OQpzc)

MSNBC said there are 1,000 people in NYC

no way, not yet anyway

Posted by: thunderb at July 20, 2013 09:05 AM (zOTsN)

39 "McCain could be trying to sabotage Enzi." There are plenty of voters who will always think of John McCain as the a presidential nominee and war hero. This endorsement means plenty to them. His old veep pick Sarah Palin was recently in Wyoming. Wonder if and if so how she will weigh in on this.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at July 20, 2013 09:05 AM (RUw+I)

40 In fairness, she's probably still cooling down.

Posted by: toby928Â© pale penis person at July 20, 2013 01:02 PM (QupBk)

I bet her evil soul is feeling the heat around now.

Posted by: Invictus at July 20, 2013 09:06 AM (OQpzc)

41 "They have deliberately denied academic employment based upon political belief."

Posted by: T. at July 20, 2013 09:07 AM (q0ujQ)

42 --and this did not get its own post?!?!Posted by: logprof at July 20, 2013 01:01 PM (fOFYL)

They'll include pics. You know they will.

The first photo of Helen's mortal remains have already surfaced on the interwebz. This shot was taken before the embalming, so be warned.

http://tinyurl.com/a5s8ban

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 20, 2013 09:07 AM (FjJko)

43 Mama aj, where are you?

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at July 20, 2013 09:07 AM (XIxXP)

44 First sign I see from Manhattan "rally"...

"Capitalism is Racism".

I suppose they've woven their own clothes and created antiperspirant from pine cones and clay. "The Plantation" has taught them well.

Posted by: Slapweasel at July 20, 2013 09:07 AM (lq3Ak)

45 250 people in LA says reporterette, but its early their

Posted by: thunderb at July 20, 2013 09:07 AM (zOTsN)

46 http://tinyurl.com/a5s8ban Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 20, 2013 01:07 PM (FjJko) --Will not go there.

Posted by: logprof at July 20, 2013 09:08 AM (fOFYL)

47 Rewrite "They have deliberately denied academic employment because of political belief."

Posted by: T. at July 20, 2013 09:08 AM (q0ujQ)

48 there

Posted by: thunderb at July 20, 2013 09:08 AM (zOTsN)

>>Mama aj, where are you?

Louisiana, last I checked.

Posted by: Mama AJ at July 20, 2013 09:09 AM (SUKHu)

50 46 http://tinyurl.com/a5s8ban Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 20, 2013 01:07 PM (FjJko) --Will not go there. Posted by: logprof at July 20, 2013 01:08 PM (fOFYL) I did. Don't.

Posted by: rickl at July 20, 2013 09:09 AM (sdi6R)

MSNBC desperate to show that the JEF big speech yesterday was a big influence on the crowds

he made it peaceful!!

Posted by: thunderb at July 20, 2013 09:09 AM (zOTsN)

52 44 First sign I see from Manhattan "rally"... "Capitalism is Racism". I suppose they've woven their own clothes and created antiperspirant from pine cones and clay. "The Plantation" has taught them well. Posted by: Slapweasel at July 20, 2013 01:07 PM (lq3Ak) --LMAO, the Chinese, Koreans, and Vietnamese are laughing at their sorry entitled asses.

Posted by: logprof at July 20, 2013 09:09 AM (fOFYL)

53 "...so you'll want to stay 'til the end." Assumes facts not in evidence.

Posted by: ghost of... at July 20, 2013 09:10 AM (e0nsQ)

54 http://tinyurl.com/a5s8ban

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 20, 2013 01:07 PM (FjJko)

Maybe I've been too hard on the ME goat fuckers.

Posted by: Invictus at July 20, 2013 09:12 AM (OQpzc)

55 I'll go with what most on the podcast say about McShitty on the surrender deal. He did it to protect his role as "deal maker" and Power Broker.

In short, he did for McCain. As for endorsing Enzi that is probably the same thing. And Enzi is not the 4th most conservative Senator, far from it. That magazine is FOS.

Posted by: Vic at July 20, 2013 09:12 AM (lZvxr)

56 If Helen Thomas assumed room temp.... she warmed up.
Cold, Evil, Troll

Posted by: Big Ben at July 20, 2013 09:13 AM (I5Htn)

57 Jesus the bullshit flowing on MSNBC is stunning

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 20, 2013 09:13 AM (9Xc5j)

58 Well he signed on to the 'Flesh wound' then what good is he, summon the Ravages.

Posted by: Lord Marshall at July 20, 2013 09:16 AM (Jsiw/)

59 he made it peaceful!!

Posted by: thunderb at July 20, 2013 01:09 PM (zOTsN)

and empty!

Posted by: Red Shirt at July 20, 2013 09:17 AM (FIDMq)

Houston chronicle says about 400 at city hall right now, but show pics of only a handful

its a deflating balloon

Posted by: thunderb at July 20, 2013 09:20 AM (zOTsN)

61 Heh. Schumer us the senate GOP's Republican whip. With his willing accomplice, John McCain.

Posted by: Invictus at July 20, 2013 09:20 AM (OQpzc)

62 On the McShitty surrender I disagree with those on the panel that said it was a good thing for Republicans. Yes, it allows Republicans to block the Dems but normally we always have a sellout like McShitty who will break the filibuster with one of his patented deals.

But the big thing is the fgact that Republicans haven't had 60 votes in the Senate since the later 1800s or early 1900s. And most of the time it is Republicans who are getting blocked.

It is also why the Supreme Court has stayed liberal for so long.

Posted by: Vic at July 20, 2013 09:23 AM (lZvxr)

63 All this talk about race is confusing. Race was not a problem in the military when I served.

Posted by: Ammo Dump at July 20, 2013 09:23 AM (GgPam)

64 All this talk about race is confusing. Race was not a problem in the military when I served.

Posted by: Ammo Dump at July 20, 2013 01:23 PM (GgPam)

-- When were you in?

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at July 20, 2013 09:24 AM (R8hU8)

65 So what, even when we have a majority, Lindsay and McCain, rig up one of these gang things.

Posted by: Lord Marshall at July 20, 2013 09:26 AM (Jsiw/)

66 FYI George Zimmerman is polling higher than Al Sharpton. According to Ras.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at July 20, 2013 09:26 AM (XIxXP)

67 All this talk about race is confusing. Race was not a problem in the military when I served. Posted by: Ammo Dump at July 20, 2013 01:23 PM (GgPam) I don't think it is much of a problem today

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 20, 2013 09:27 AM (9Xc5j)

68 Liz Cheney is RINO bait. When she is nearby they come out from their holes and sputter their usual shit.

Posted by: eman at July 20, 2013 09:27 AM (AO9UG)

69 I think this is just a way that Senators and Congressmen retain their power and protect fellow members of the club. I recall reading about how as a Senator, Hillary was the biggest contributor to her fellow Senators' re-election campaigns. And time and again McCain has shown that he has more respect for and allegiance to his fellow Senators - even ones like Reid and Schumer - than he does to his constituents or any upstart challenger. It's a club and they take care of each other.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 20, 2013 09:29 AM (2mSdf)

70 So what, even when we have a majority, Lindsay and McCain, rig up one of these gang things.

Posted by: Lord Marshall at July 20, 2013 01:26 PM (Jsiw/)

Yes. McCain and his fellow R sell-outs control just enough votes to be the swing power. And they have no problem allying with Schumer to fuck us. If the GOP can't get rid of McCain, he will make any wins meaningless.

Posted by: Invictus at July 20, 2013 09:29 AM (OQpzc)

71 For the Mike Enzi "ranking", I have a link from Freedomworks:

http://tinyurl.com/mxfw2sd

It is fun and educational!

Posted by: Slapweasel at July 20, 2013 09:30 AM (lq3Ak)

72 Posted by: Ammo Dump at July 20, 2013 01:23 PM (GgPam) -- When were you in?

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at July 20, 2013 01:24 PM (R8hU

From 1971 to early 1998. Need to modify a bit. In Korea (1972-73) there were a few problems, but minor.

Posted by: Ammo Dump at July 20, 2013 09:31 AM (GgPam)

73 Imagine..., even though the President started this whole thing, he might have easily poured oil on the water..., but, no. He agitates. It is purposeful, and can only have one goal, to promote strife and division. It is disgusting, but then so is almost everything he does.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 20, 2013 09:33 AM (aDwsi)

74 Liz Cheney is the perfect candidate. A life long State Department employee and a television talking head. Did I mention she's been on television? That counts for a lot!

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at July 20, 2013 09:33 AM (V1ZIU)

75 There was no reason, to 'turn over Cloud City.' the NLRB counsel, and Tom Perez, hater of cops everywhere.

Posted by: Lord Marshall at July 20, 2013 09:33 AM (Jsiw/)

76 Is their a better symbol of the rot that infests the GOP and the Country than John McCain?

Posted by: eman at July 20, 2013 09:34 AM (AO9UG)

77 "Oh, the gentleman from the South had a question about the dining arrangements. He and his comrades are discussing place settings now."

Posted by: Major John Reisman at July 20, 2013 09:35 AM (BAS5M)

78 Lando Calrissian won Cloud City in a poker game, no?

Posted by: soothie at July 20, 2013 09:37 AM (ZCAlb)

79 Regarding Detroit--I am a strong believer in rule by the common people. I am also a strong believer in the common people themselves believing that the highest form of civilization and wisdom does not lie in perpetually thinking and acting like some Jersey dockworker--all rough and tumble blue collar, all the time.

Posted by: T. at July 20, 2013 09:37 AM (q0ujQ)

80 It is fun and educational!

Posted by: Slapweasel at July 20, 2013 01:30 PM (lq3Ak)

Heh. By that list Snowe and Murklitski are Dems in good standing. Even worse than Hoeven.

Mike Lee for President! Or Cruz, or Perry, or any fucking body on the right for a change.

Posted by: Invictus at July 20, 2013 09:37 AM (OQpzc)

81 Robert Byrd and Helen Thomas are probably having a grand old time swapping anti-Semitic jokes in hell.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 20, 2013 09:38 AM (NEIxp)

82 If Helen Thomas assumed room temp.... she warmed up.
Cold, Evil, Troll
Posted by: Big Ben
---------------------------

The Sunday TV talk shows will feature paens to Ms. Thomas. Expect NPR to be especially mournful..., no, wait..., MSNBC

Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 20, 2013 09:40 AM (aDwsi)

83 what's this? Helen Thomas croaked??

Posted by: soothie at July 20, 2013 09:40 AM (xVKk3)

84 "Is there a better symbol of the rot that infests the GOP and the Country than John McCain?"

- Collins
-Snowe
-Brown*
-Murkowski
-Hoeven
...and a few more

Posted by: Slapweasel at July 20, 2013 09:40 AM (lq3Ak)

85 73 Imagine..., even though the President started this whole thing, he might have easily poured oil on the water..., but, no. He agitates. It is purposeful, and can only have one goal, to promote strife and division. It is disgusting, but then so is almost everything he does. Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 20, 2013 01:33 PM (aDwsi) It's what Alinskyite community organizers do. It's what he knows. It's his first love. It's also evil. There's a reason Rules for Radicals is dedicated to the devil.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 20, 2013 09:40 AM (NEIxp)

86 81 Robert Byrd and Helen Thomas are probably having a grand old time swapping anti-Semitic jokes in hell. Posted by: Insomniac at July 20, 2013 01:38 PM (NEIxp) --Helen's first task in hell is to go all the way with Ted Kennedy in the back seat of a Beetle, then get a ride back to her place from him.

Posted by: logprof at July 20, 2013 09:42 AM (fOFYL)

87 83 what's this? Helen Thomas croaked?? Posted by: soothie at July 20, 2013 01:40 PM (xVKk3) Yep. She died today. Robert Byrd and Adolfo Hitler have her a warm welcome at the gates of hell.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 20, 2013 09:42 AM (NEIxp)

88 Posted by: Invictus at July 20, 2013 01:37 PM (OQpzc)
*****

Remember that you've got to toggle around. They get "faux conservative" around election time.

Posted by: Slapweasel at July 20, 2013 09:43 AM (lq3Ak)

89 Robert Byrd and Helen Thomas are probably having a grand old time swapping anti-Semitic jokes in hell. Posted by: Insomniac at July 20, 2013 01:38 PM (NEIxp) She's an Arab, what makes you think a member of the KKK would talk to her?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 20, 2013 09:43 AM (9Xc5j)

90 Remember that you've got to toggle around. They get "faux conservative" around election time. Posted by: Slapweasel at July 20, 2013 01:43 PM (lq3Ak) --As do a lot of Democrats.

Posted by: logprof at July 20, 2013 09:43 AM (fOFYL)

91 Helen's first task in hell is to go all the way with Ted Kennedy in the back seat of a Beetle Are you sure that's not part of Ted's eternal punishment?

Posted by: Insomniac at July 20, 2013 09:44 AM (NEIxp)

92 "Is there a better symbol of the rot that infests the GOP and the Country than John McCain?" - Collins -Snowe -Brown* -Murkowski -Hoeven ...and a few more Posted by: Slapweasel at July 20, 2013 01:40 PM (lq3Ak) How are they better symbols than John McCain?

Posted by: eman at July 20, 2013 09:44 AM (AO9UG)

93 91 Helen's first task in hell is to go all the way with Ted Kennedy in the back seat of a Beetle Are you sure that's not part of Ted's eternal punishment? Posted by: Insomniac at July 20, 2013 01:44 PM (NEIxp) --Splash has already here. Win-win for me.

Posted by: Lucifer at July 20, 2013 09:45 AM (fOFYL)

94 Helen Thomas croaked??

Posted by: soothie
----------------------

Possible thread winner.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 20, 2013 09:46 AM (aDwsi)

95

Did Drew ask for a moment of silent prayer for Trayvon?

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 20, 2013 09:46 AM (kdS6q)

96 Liz Cheney is pro-gay marriage and pro-choice. If Palin supports her I'd be pretty surprised ... but then she did endorse McDuchebag.

Posted by: joanne at July 20, 2013 09:46 AM (iN75m)

97 This is a quote from an NYT editorial in favor of bailing out Detroit.

"But apart from voting in elections, the 700,000 remaining residents of the Motor City are no more responsible for DetroitÂ’s problems than were the victims of Hurricane Sandy for theirs, and eventually Congress decided to help them."

Okay, citizens of Detroit, I'll tell you what. We'll bail you out, as soon as you sign this card permanently surrendering your right to vote. Deal?

Posted by: pep at July 20, 2013 09:47 AM (6TB1Z)

98 "--As do a lot of Democrats."
Posted by: logprof

Damn skippy! Getting elected takes "not sounding like what they really are".

Posted by: Slapweasel at July 20, 2013 09:47 AM (lq3Ak)

99 This morning I found someone's magnetic key box containing on duplicate auto key. Is it worth the trouble of putting a free found item ad in the local paper?

Posted by: toby928© pale penis person at July 20, 2013 09:48 AM (QupBk)

100 Liz Cheney is pro-gay marriage and pro-choice. If Palin supports her I'd be pretty surprised ... but then she did endorse McDuchebag.

Posted by: joanne at July 20, 2013 01:46 PM (iN75m)

Link? And Palin pretty much had to endorse McShitty.

Posted by: Vic at July 20, 2013 09:49 AM (lZvxr)

101 If it were your key, would you even be likely to have noticed it's absence, and would you look in the lost&found?

Posted by: toby928© pale penis person at July 20, 2013 09:50 AM (QupBk)

102

Posted by: toby928Â© pale penis person at July 20, 2013 01:48 PM (QupBk)

Did you find it in the street near your house?

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 20, 2013 09:50 AM (BAS5M)

103 Is it worth the trouble of putting a free found item ad in the local paper?

Posted by: toby928Â© pale penis person at July 20, 2013 01:48 PM (QupBk)

Not when you can have a duplicate key made for 75 cents.

Posted by: Vic at July 20, 2013 09:50 AM (lZvxr)

104 nah, it's just a key

Posted by: soothie at July 20, 2013 09:51 AM (LL42r)

105 Did you find it in the street near your house? It was in the ditch I was mowing at our church, so it could be anyone's.

Posted by: toby928© pale penis person at July 20, 2013 09:51 AM (QupBk)

106 RE: podcast speedup

http://preview.tinyurl.com/ln594r

How to Speed Up an MP3 File With Audacity

Posted by: Grover's at July 20, 2013 09:52 AM (9aKQB)

107 "How are they better symbols than John McCain?"
Posted by: eman

Voting record. Pure and simple. McNugget just seeks out the cameras more often.

Posted by: Slapweasel at July 20, 2013 09:52 AM (lq3Ak)

108 nah, it's just a key That's kind of what I'm thinking. It was a duplicate key without markings or numbers so, were it mine, I wouldn't worry about someone finding it and being able to use it.

Posted by: toby928© pale penis person at July 20, 2013 09:52 AM (QupBk)

109 What Detroit needs is fire and an army of Rome Plows. Then build a monument with the inscription "Let this be a warning."

Posted by: Pyramid Builders LLC at July 20, 2013 09:53 AM (QzUBJ)

110 It was in the ditch I was mowing at our church, so it could be anyone's. Posted by: toby928Â© pale penis person at July 20, 2013 01:51 PM (QupBk) The key you found can unravel the entire Benghazi cover-up. Mail it to someone in D.C. that you trust.

Posted by: eman at July 20, 2013 09:53 AM (AO9UG)

111 This is a quote from an NYT editorial in favor of bailing out Detroit.

"But apart from voting in elections, the 700,000 remaining residents of
the Motor City are no more responsible for DetroitÂ’s problems than were
the victims of Hurricane Sandy for theirs, and eventually Congress
decided to help them."
-------------------------------------

One of the most singularly stupid things I have ever seen.
Let's rephrase this slightly: "Aside from the fact that the citizens, by their choice, designated, and for five decades re-designated, the people who were bankrupting the city, they are no more responsible than the victims of a chance weather event"

The absolute hubris of the NYT is staggering.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 20, 2013 09:53 AM (aDwsi)

112

It was in the ditch I was mowing at our church, so it could be anyone's.

Put something in the church bulletin about it maybe? If it is one of those chipped carkeys, it can cost $100 or more to replace from the dealer. At least that's what the friendly Ford parts guy told me about getting a second key to my F-150.

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 20, 2013 09:53 AM (BAS5M)

113 I did find a cell phone in the road one time when I was walking. It had been run over so, unusable, but I ran the free ad in case they wanted the chip out of it. No callers.

Posted by: toby928© pale penis person at July 20, 2013 09:54 AM (QupBk)

114 A "set" of keys, maybe. Not just a key. I lost my wallet once and it was mailed back to me, which was nice. By the time I got it back I had already replaced my license and credit cards, which sucked.

Posted by: soothie at July 20, 2013 09:54 AM (3Aqe5)

115 76. Is their a better symbol of the rot that infests the GOP and the Country than John McCain? Posted by: eman This is exactly what I was afraid would play out when he first ran for AZ Senate. POW, give every returning prisoner of war our deepest gratitude. But that does not mean it wise to entrust you lives in the hands of a POW, or any victim of abuse and torture during imprisonment. I'm not saying that prisoners of war are "bad". But I am saying that they've suffered torments that warp the psyche. The last thing a POW "needs" is to hold the fate of humanity at his whim. Best to return to a "peaceful" private existence. A tragic example, the old Hatfield/McCoy War grudge began between neighbor-friends when one Rebel soldier decided to desert and go home, "done with fighting", and the other stayed and was subsequently captured and imprisoned/tortured and starved by the North, barely surviving 'til the war ended to return home, bitter as hell.

Posted by: nonapology-apology at July 20, 2013 09:54 AM (MhA4j)

116 McShitty's problem besides his voting record is how often he does shit to stab Republicans in the back. This last example is a fine example of that.

MooKow, Collins, and Snowe are DIABLOs. Democrats with an R after their name.

Posted by: Vic at July 20, 2013 09:55 AM (lZvxr)

117

6 Posted by: Jones in CO at July 20, 2013 12:44 PM (8sCoq)

It's a lot tougher to cop a feel if the ladies are armed

Posted by: Mayor Bob Filner at July 20, 2013 09:55 AM (Pr6hk)

118 They probably thought you'd kill them.

Posted by: soothie at July 20, 2013 09:55 AM (jlW3q)

119

Vic, correction. Ooops, I don't know if she is pro-choice, read that in somebody's comment section on another blog but I can't find anything on that. But pro-gay marriage, yes. I Binged "Liz Cheney" and pro-gay marriage came up and she supports it. Townhall article I believe.

Posted by: joanne at July 20, 2013 09:56 AM (iN75m)

120 This morning I found someone's magnetic key box containing on duplicate auto key. Is it worth the trouble of putting a free found item ad in the local paper? Posted by: toby928
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It is highly likely that it bounced loose from some 'hidden' spot on the frame or body of a vehicle. That's where I keep mine. I would bet my paycheck that the owner doesn't even know that it is gone...., and if they are luckier than I am, they never will.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 20, 2013 09:57 AM (aDwsi)

121 They probably thought you'd kill them. Hmm. I do have a rep as the strange old man whose always digging in his yard.

Posted by: toby928© pale penis person at July 20, 2013 09:58 AM (QupBk)

122 The absolute hubris of the NYT is staggering. Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 20, 2013 01:53 PM (aDwsi) And yet it works. The LIV/FSA is a powerful force. To harness it you must wield the Sword of Stupid, the Shield of Ignorance, and the Staff of Emotion. The NYT is well-skilled in the art.

Posted by: eman at July 20, 2013 09:58 AM (AO9UG)

123 It's a lot tougher to cop a feel if the ladies are armed
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And feeling a cop is probably just a bad idea..., but you know..., morons.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 20, 2013 09:59 AM (aDwsi)

124 Posted by: Vic at July 20, 2013 01:55 PM (lZvxr)
***

Understood, Vic. I only answered the question I was asked.
-"Is there a better symbol of the rot that infests the GOP and the Country than John McCain?"

And you've made a very, very persuasive argument.

Posted by: Slapweasel at July 20, 2013 10:01 AM (lq3Ak)

125 I do have a rep as the strange old man whose always digging in his yard. Posted by: toby928
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So far, I am only regarded as mildly eccentric. I ascribe that to my habit of walking the cat on a leash at night.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 20, 2013 10:01 AM (aDwsi)

126 6 I think opposing SYG ground laws is very anti-woman. Concealed carry and SYG make women safer.

Why do Democrats hate women? They don't want them to have guns on campii, they don't want abortion mills to be subject to health regs, BUT they are happy to send them to the front lines of combat where they can be blown to pieces.

Curious...

Posted by: Jones in CO at July 20, 2013 12:44 PM (8sCoq)

This. Our "leaders" should be on the rooftops shouting this. I tell everyone I know, that every woman they care about should carry. There should be ads to that effect regarding Dems "War on Women". let women tell their stories about how they defended themselves and how the couldn't because of 'draconian' gun laws. How it would be a different life for Muslim women across the world if they had guns, and defended themselves against mutilation and abuse.

Posted by: Guido - 'now with 75+% more hate!' at July 20, 2013 10:03 AM (a180S)

127 The key is an Axxess+ 24r, which the interwebs tells me is a duplicate blank for a Ford, and it does look like my F150 key. I guess I will just mention it at church and let that be the end of it.

Posted by: toby928© pale penis person at July 20, 2013 10:03 AM (QupBk)

128 ahh, the old invisible cat leash trick classic

Posted by: soothie at July 20, 2013 10:04 AM (Vhc4u)

129 Jamie Fox at LA protest

Posted by: thunderb at July 20, 2013 10:05 AM (zOTsN)

130 On the plus side, I would get a nice keyhider out of it, on the downside it did fall off some vehicle so I don't know how much to trust it.

Posted by: toby928© pale penis person at July 20, 2013 10:05 AM (QupBk)

131 So far, I am only regarded as mildly eccentric. I ascribe that to my habit of walking the cat on a leash at night.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 20, 2013 02:01 PM (aDwsi)

Are you serious? So do I. My cats grew up in halters because we did a lot of car travel, could hold onto them at stops. Now we halter and walk. Hilarious.

Posted by: Guido - 'now with 75+% more hate!' at July 20, 2013 10:06 AM (a180S)

132

reporters all still speaking from the "protest" sites. Only the protestors have already left

Kate better have that baby cause they are running out of material

Posted by: thunderb at July 20, 2013 10:06 AM (zOTsN)

133

131 So far, I am only regarded as mildly eccentric. I ascribe that to my habit of walking the cat on a leash at night.
Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 20, 2013 02:01 PM (aDwsi)

If you aren't serious I don't walk my cat on a leash.

Posted by: Guido - 'now with 75+% more hate!' at July 20, 2013 10:07 AM (a180S)

134 The Freedom of Information Act Machine, an open online platform that automates Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests, launched on Kickstarter two days ago and has already surpassed its funding goal. At the time of publication, it had cleared $20,000 in funding from over 600 backers.

The issue is simple Â— the state and federal laws and processes for FOIA requests are complex, often purposefully so, and it can be a pain for even experienced reporters to navigate the process.

The FOIA machine does three main things: it automates FOIA requests; it tracks requests, their progress and the dates you filed them; and it aggregates information about FOIA requests and helps build information around how to improve the requests in the future.

Posted by: Steve Jobs at July 20, 2013 10:08 AM (e8kgV)

135

turn out looks horrible so far

seems Sharpton doesn't have the pull media thinks he has

Posted by: thunderb at July 20, 2013 10:08 AM (zOTsN)

136 ahh, the old invisible cat leash trick

classic

Posted by: soothie
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From a time when comedy was comedy.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 20, 2013 10:08 AM (aDwsi)

137

plus its starting to thunderstorm

heh

Posted by: thunderb at July 20, 2013 10:09 AM (zOTsN)

138 My personal assistant, Jon, thinks it's funny to suggest taking me for a "drag."

Posted by: Garfield at July 20, 2013 10:10 AM (BAS5M)

139

>>The key is an Axxess+ 24r, which the interwebs tells me is a duplicate blank for a Ford, and it does look like my F150 key. I guess I will just mention it at church and let that be the end of it.

Well, you could just try the key on any Fords in the lot during church.

(We'll post bail.)

Posted by: Mama AJ at July 20, 2013 10:11 AM (SUKHu)

140 My Justice for Trayvon action figures are watching Sponge Bob and getting high.

Posted by: eman at July 20, 2013 10:11 AM (AO9UG)

141 Well, you could just try the key on any Fords in the lot during church. I like the way your mind works. Do you, perchance, have a newsletter?

Posted by: toby928© pale penis person at July 20, 2013 10:14 AM (QupBk)

142 Another point for the "obstructionist, backstabber McCain" argument; (Depending on which side of the "arm Syrian rebels" you've chosen):

From Breitbart: http://tinyurl.com/mvrjtyf

Posted by: Slapweasel at July 20, 2013 10:14 AM (lq3Ak)

143 So MLKIII is calling for a boycott on Kentucky bourbon, gulf coast shrimp, and Georgia peaches over SYG. Knob Creek, check, GA peaches, check, now just have to find some gulf coast shrimp.

Posted by: Adam at July 20, 2013 10:15 AM (Aif/5)

144 If you aren't serious I don't walk my cat on a leash. Posted by: Guido
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Yeah, I'm serious, well, as serious as one can be about walking cats. The cat is an indoor cat, no claws (call me what you will, for that, but I've been through shredded and scratched furniture before). I feel sorry for the guy, and so take him out every evening. It's somewhat debatable as to who walks who, as he pretty much leads me around, here and yon, until he decides to go back in. When that decision is reached, he doesn't screw around, but drags me back to the door.

The record for outdoor cats here is not good. Coyotes.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 20, 2013 10:16 AM (aDwsi)

145

>>Do you, perchance, have a newsletter?

Yes, but stop staring at the cut of my jib.

Posted by: Mama AJ at July 20, 2013 10:16 AM (SUKHu)

146 So MLKIII is calling for a boycott on Kentucky bourbon,
----------------

Note to self : Stock up on Rebel Yell..., wait..., is that racist?

I denounce myself.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 20, 2013 10:20 AM (aDwsi)

147

The record for outdoor cats here is not good. Coyotes.

Can I show you something in a .380?

Posted by: Rick "Quickdraw" Perry at July 20, 2013 10:20 AM (BAS5M)

148

A black mans, quite amusing and no holds barred rant against the Trayvon protests. I love the cigar prop. Enjoy.

http://tinyurl.com/ouugkf9

Posted by: Guido - 'now with 75+% more hate!' at July 20, 2013 10:22 AM (a180S)

149 Can I show you something in a .380?
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Before the tragic off-shore boating accident, I had a .222 Mag Remington. Just right for the job.

Unfortunately (for MANY reasons) we live inside the city limits, and the discharge of a firearm gets you arrested. Let's not get started on that...

Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 20, 2013 10:24 AM (aDwsi)

150 The record for outdoor cats here is not good. Coyotes.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 20, 2013 02:16 PM (aDwsi)

Same here in the center of Phoenix of all places. Live in a condo on a canal and have seen coyotes in daylight walking the canal and there are Great Horned owls in the eucalyptus trees across the canal. Kitties are food, not friends.

Posted by: Guido - 'now with 75+% more hate!' at July 20, 2013 10:26 AM (a180S)

151

HuffPo comment re Helen Thomas:

"Ms. Thomas wasn't a racist,she was never against blacks or Jews. Her statement was completely twisted by the media." Hello, McFly!! She was IN THE MEDIA!

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 20, 2013 10:27 AM (BAS5M)

152 Hello, McFly!! Fhe was IN THE MEDIA!

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 20, 2013 02:27 PM (BAS5M)

the twisted mental gyrations makes my brain hurt.

Posted by: Guido - 'now with 75+% more hate!' at July 20, 2013 10:28 AM (a180S)

153 Guido - Loved the video.

http://tinyurl.com/ouugkf9

Posted by: Big Ben at July 20, 2013 10:31 AM (I5Htn)

154 Guido - One night while standing out in the dark with the cat just standing close by, an owl brushed by, apparently aborting when it realized that I was there too. Scared the hell out of me as I never saw it coming, and it took a half a second to register what it was. Then..., there was the night of the bear encounter...

Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 20, 2013 10:32 AM (aDwsi)

155 148 A black mans, quiteamusing and no holds barred rant against the Trayvon protests. I love the cigar prop. Enjoy.

http://tinyurl.com/ouugkf9

Awesome sauce. Everyone should go and watch it. You'll never see it in the MSM.

Posted by: pep at July 20, 2013 10:32 AM (6TB1Z)

156 stand your lane... "A collision sent a car and its driver over the side of the Chesapeake Bay Bridge and down 40 feet into the water on Friday night, but the driver was able to climb to safety. The driver, a 22- year-old woman, was rescued and flown to Maryland Shock Trauma in Baltimore. She was in critical condition late Friday with non-life-threatening injuries." non-life-threatening injuries "critical condition" ?

Posted by: nonapology-apology at July 20, 2013 10:37 AM (MhA4j)

157
http://tinyurl.com/ouugkf9

Gadzooks! If you haven't seen it.., go look NOW.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 20, 2013 10:40 AM (aDwsi)

158 My SIL in Northern AZ says no outdoor kittehs because of coyotes.

Posted by: Vic at July 20, 2013 10:40 AM (lZvxr)

159 @ 148 Great video, Guido! I needed that, man.

Posted by: Slapweasel at July 20, 2013 10:41 AM (lq3Ak)

160 I have to use a bb gun to run the feral cats off around here every day/night.
I use 12ga on skunks/possum/coons and nobody even looks twice.
It sure is nice living in the other America.

Posted by: Big Ben at July 20, 2013 10:41 AM (I5Htn)

161 158 My SIL in Northern AZ says no outdoor kittehs because of coyotes. Posted by: Vic at July 20, 2013 02:40 PM (lZvxr) and eagles, hawks, snakes.....can't leave small dogs out either...

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl, RIP Alex Teves at July 20, 2013 10:43 AM (8JJ6O)

162 We have all those here too.

Posted by: Vic at July 20, 2013 10:45 AM (lZvxr)

163 Wearing the veil is illegal in France, so when police check the identity of a woman wearing a veil, a riot breaks out.

"A witness said the crowd called on police to release the husband but were "insulted" by authorities."

I'm guessing 'insulted' means the cops didn't release the man.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/lwf2gvr

Sharpton should try that, claim his peeps were 'insulted' by the cops, so rioting would be justified. (If he has any peeps, or maybe he's just getting organized and the real protests start tomorrow, or next week, or in the fall when outdoor temps are a bit more pleasant. )

Posted by: Pyramid Builders LLC at July 20, 2013 10:49 AM (QzUBJ)

164 Should Hamtramck Erect A 12-Foot Wall To Keep Out Detroiters?

http://tinyurl.com/mg72zye

LOL -- illegal immigrants keep out.

Posted by: LC LaWedgie at July 20, 2013 10:49 AM (0It32)

165 My cats sleep in bed with their heads on a pillow. They want to know what this "outside" thing is?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 20, 2013 10:49 AM (9Xc5j)

166 We have all those here too. Posted by: Vic at July 20, 2013 02:45 PM (lZvxr) Ditto, I keep waiting for Marlon Perkins to step out of the woods by my house.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at July 20, 2013 10:50 AM (XIxXP)

167 Watching Memphis Belle on Cable. Looking at it alot different after visiting the 8th Air Force Museum outside of Savannah GA

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 20, 2013 10:51 AM (9Xc5j)

168 I keep waiting for Marlon Perkins to step out of the woods by my house.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at July 20, 2013 02:50 PM (XIxXP)

I would shit myself. He has been dead for years......

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at July 20, 2013 10:52 AM (jucos)

169 I would shit myself. He has been dead for years...... Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at July 20, 2013 02:52 PM (jucos) Zombie Marlon Perkins, cool.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at July 20, 2013 10:53 AM (XIxXP)

170
Zombie Marlon Perkins, cool.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at July 20, 2013 02:53 PM (XIxXP)

If he brought Zombie Lions..your hosed.

Posted by: Red Shirt at July 20, 2013 10:56 AM (FIDMq)

171 This room is kind of empty. Now would be a good time to break wind I guess......

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at July 20, 2013 10:57 AM (jucos)

172 171 This room is kind of empty. Now would be a good time to break wind I guess......

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at July 20, 2013 02:57 PM (jucos)

No, you do it on the move in a crowded room...cropdusting

Posted by: Red Shirt at July 20, 2013 10:58 AM (FIDMq)

173 RIP Helen Thomas. That is all.

Posted by: blaster at July 20, 2013 10:59 AM (c28BI)

174 As a pet lover, coyotes scare me. I read where a woman near me was in her back yard weeding with her little dog only about 8 feet away from her when a coyote jumped the hedge, grabbed the dog, and escaped. My neighbor also had a horror story but I will spare you. This is in broad daylight in Los Angeles. You can even spot coyotes in South Central. Paris Hilton shd be flogged. She was living in the Hwd Hills and put her dogs out at night. That's just like ringing a dinner bell. Ashley Green (?) is another tard for leaving candles burning, setting a fire, and leaving her two dogs to die. Why didn't smoke alarms wake her up? She either disconnected them or was passed out due to drugs/alcohol.

Posted by: Filner at July 20, 2013 11:00 AM (cjFRv)

175 When I first moved in to my house the road was dirt and it was mostly woods. The area was overrun with feral dogs from sorry people who wold haul their unwanted puppies out and dump them.

Posted by: Vic at July 20, 2013 11:01 AM (lZvxr)

176 Funny story about breaking wind. When I was a bagger at a grocery store the game used to be you would walk over to one of your compatriots bagging a big order and break wind and walk away. Hilarity ensued. At least it was hilarious to my 17 year old self. I used to guarantee performance by eating the "right" kind of foods before having to go to work.

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at July 20, 2013 11:03 AM (jucos)

177 see a ton of dumped dogs in my neighborhood. They drive them here. I have seen that three times, stopped one of the drivers.

Posted by: thunderb at July 20, 2013 11:04 AM (zOTsN)

178 United States President Barack Obama addressed the death of journalist Helen Thomas, who worked the White House for 49 years, and said she was a "true pioneer" who opened doors and broke barriers for generations of women. Thomas resigned three years ago following harsh statements against Israel. Obama added: "What made Helen the 'Dean of the White House Press Corps' was not just the length of her tenure, but her fierce belief that our democracy works best when we ask tough questions and hold our leaders to account." (News Agencies) A) she was no true pioneer. Hell the nazis had female concentration camp guards also B) she was an anti-semite, not that obama would notice that C) and what does obama know about being held to account?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 20, 2013 11:09 AM (9Xc5j)

179 And Rachel Lucas has touched down at DFW a few minutes ago! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGCJ5j7oVWc

Posted by: rickl at July 20, 2013 11:10 AM (sdi6R)

180 I had to euthanize a great cat that I'd had for 15 years last year. A few days later I brought my other cat in for routine care. While I was waiting, a couple of the techs who were there when Monkey was euthanized whispered something to the Vet and left. After the Vet was done, she asked me if I'd like to adopt a kitten that had been brought in the previous day by a client who found him in the middle of the road. I said yes, sight unseen, and they brought the little 5 week old thing out to reception. He fit in the palm of my hand, and started purring immediately. The Vet said that the woman who brought him in wanted a guarantee that he would never be an outside cat, and I said no problem. He's never been outside since, excepting one Vet visit. He's also 15 pounds now and acts like a dog.

Posted by: Lincolntf at July 20, 2013 11:10 AM (ZshNr)

181 Pac Rim ok for an 9 year old?

Posted by: RWC at July 20, 2013 11:11 AM (8FeS+)

182 This room is kind of empty. Now would be a good time to break wind I guess......

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at July 20, 2013 02:57 PM (jucos)

No, you do it on the move in a crowded room...cropdusting
Posted by: Red Shirt
-------------

Ah, just slip over to Huff Po. They won't even notice.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 20, 2013 11:11 AM (aDwsi)

183 I had an indoor/outdoor cat that loved to hunt. I don't know how it avoided the owls, coyotes, and stray dogs, but it did. Must have been lucky or smart. Died at the ripe old age of 20+.

Posted by: Ronster at July 20, 2013 11:12 AM (HoMbw)

184 Unfortunately (for MANY reasons) we live inside the city limits, and the discharge of a firearm gets you arrested. Let's not get started on that... Yeah same here, although I'm only three blocks from the center of town, I'm only two blocks from the city limits the other way because the old Quarters have a big salient coming in on that side that has never been annexed. The folk pop 9's all the time over there without being hassled. I'm jealous.

Posted by: toby928© pale penis person at July 20, 2013 11:13 AM (QupBk)

185 Between the heat, the humidity and the mosquitoes, I can only work outside an hour before I have to retreat back inside for at least a half hour.

Posted by: toby928© pale penis person at July 20, 2013 11:18 AM (QupBk)

186 I am not in the city limits but discharging any firearm here is a hefty fine for first offense.

Posted by: Vic at July 20, 2013 11:18 AM (lZvxr)

187

ok horde put me in some gun knowledge

the GZ stand your ground group seems uber disorganized. They are meeting in the high school parking lot prior to the march. That was offered to them by police. Some of them have CCHL and want to carry since there have been threats. Some are arguing that a school is a gun free zone and you cannot carry your gun on school property, or even within a 1,000 feet of a school. Any TX morons know stat law on this issue?

I will check and see if NRA website has info

Posted by: thunderb at July 20, 2013 11:18 AM (zOTsN)

188 new one

Posted by: Vic at July 20, 2013 11:19 AM (lZvxr)

189 Lautenberg law on the 1,000 feet of a school. Republicans should have repealed it when they had both houses. Instead they were too busy trying to ramrod amnesty through.

Posted by: Vic at July 20, 2013 11:31 AM (lZvxr)

190 Also, IIRC the supremes struck it down one time before and the Dems made cosmetic changes to it and repassed it.

It hasn't been taken to court again.

Posted by: Vic at July 20, 2013 11:32 AM (lZvxr)

191 well some guy claiming to be a lawyer is telling them if they stay on the sidewalk they will be OK. I looked at the law that I could find and I do not think so. I think that is why the police offered the school as a gathering place, to get the guns and stop the march

Posted by: thunderb at July 20, 2013 11:40 AM (zOTsN)

192 I take that back the Lautenberg amendment banned gun ownership by people convicted of misdemeanor domestic violence. It was struck down and re-passed though.

The gun free school zones act of 1990 is what banned guns within 1,000 feet of a school. It also was struck down and then cosmetic changes made and re-passed.

Posted by: Vic at July 20, 2013 11:52 AM (lZvxr)

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