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January 31, 2013

AP: NBC Refused to Address Question of Deceptive Edit
— Ace

AP actually calls NBC out for this. I made this point yesterday: NBC issued a statement claiming they'd reviewed the controversy, and they decided that opinions could vary on whether or not the father was "heckled" at the proceeding.

That's a whitewash in and of itself (no, there is no question), but the characterization of the controversy as such is itself deceptive: The real question -- and there is no question about the answer to this question -- was whether or not NBC

once again

doctored video or audio to create a false impression for purposes of sensationalizing a story for its liberal partisan audience.

Because that question has a brutally simple answer -- "Yes" -- NBC just pretended it wasn't a question at all.

And AP does in fact notice this.

MSNBC invited viewers Wednesday to draw their own conclusions about whether the parent of a Connecticut school shooting victim was heckled at a legislative hearing but didn't address criticism that it aired a deceptively edited video of the event.
The NBC-owned cable news network found itself under attack for its editing practices less than a year after three employees of NBC or an NBC-owned station lost their jobs over the editing of a 911 call in the Trayvon Martin case.
...
The passage as aired by MSNBC received criticism for being deceptive.
"This is not how a legitimate, professional news organization operates," said Brent Bozell, founder of the Media Research Center, a conservative media watchdog. "MSNBC's relentless anti-gun advocacy is bad enough, but this is downright dishonest."
MSNBC spokeswoman Lauren Skowronski did not immediately address questions about why MSNBC made the changes or whether criticism that it was misleading is valid.

Posted by: Ace at 08:44 AM | Comments (217)
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1 "This is not how a legitimate, professional news organization operates," said Brent Bozell. No, Brent, but it is exactly how a Communist dictatorship operates. The MSM is the government and the government is the MSM. We all need to understand this.

Posted by: BarrackHusseinObama at January 31, 2013 08:47 AM (7ObY1)

2 I don't understand why the FEC doesn't announce that it will treat advertising on Fox and Rush as if they were political contributions, and require them to be documented as such. Are they chicken?

Posted by: Felt Wrapper at January 31, 2013 08:47 AM (ecmD4)

3 Anyone still watch NBC? I don't.

Posted by: EC at January 31, 2013 08:47 AM (GQ8sn)

4 Uh, oh. When you've lost Obama's stenographers at the AP...

Posted by: locomotivebreath1901 at January 31, 2013 08:48 AM (tUT9B)

Propagandists are legitimate war targets.

Posted by: JQP at January 31, 2013 08:48 AM (NBj0d)

6 Did anyone lose their jobs over the Trayvon(c) Martin thing? I thought they were just "reassigned."

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at January 31, 2013 08:48 AM (P7hip)

7 My first FIRST and I leave a sock as my handle...Facepalm!

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at January 31, 2013 08:49 AM (7ObY1)

8 First? Do we expect anything else from NBC or MSNBC

Posted by: CarolT at January 31, 2013 08:49 AM (s0f54)

9 They make the Pyongyang Times look good. That is not a compliment.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - there on Thunder Island! at January 31, 2013 08:49 AM (hLRSq)

10 9 They make the Pyongyang Times look good. That is not a compliment. --- They are stealing our schtick without attribution!

Posted by: Pravda at January 31, 2013 08:50 AM (e0xKF)

11 7 My first FIRST and I leave a sock as my handle...Facepalm!

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at January 31, 2013 12:49 PM (7ObY1)

That's the first time that's ever happened on this blog!
Barrel.

Posted by: jwb7605 (Let It Burn) at January 31, 2013 08:51 AM (Qxe/p)

12 News is opinion.
Facts are racist!

Posted by: Roland THTG at January 31, 2013 08:51 AM (QM5S2)

13 This will go on forever. The buzz is down since Newtown, but the next time innocent white people are killed by a crazy, it will be back. Like a broken record, they will play and play and play this refrain. The liberals own the feed, and the feed has one message only.

Posted by: The littl shyning man at January 31, 2013 08:51 AM (PH+2B)

14 And yet it's Fox who loses its government press credentials.
What's the penalty for abusing First Amendment rights?
Could they be demoted to black-and-white TV?
And then would they have to hire Soledad?

Posted by: comatus at January 31, 2013 08:51 AM (qaVK+)

15 NBC watchdog turned lapdog.

Posted by: sTevo at January 31, 2013 08:52 AM (u9Q5E)

16 #5 nails it. In a time of war, propoganists are in fact legitimate targets. Just sayin'.

Posted by: sans_sheriff at January 31, 2013 08:52 AM (OQHM+)

17 So the real question is, when someone socks you in the face...does their fist hit your face or does your face hit their fist...opinions may vary on this subject, so we'll leave it up to you to decide

Posted by: NBC at January 31, 2013 08:52 AM (F6KtL)

18 14 And yet it's Fox who loses its government press credentials.
What's the penalty for abusing First Amendment rights?
Could they be demoted to black-and-white TV?
And then would they have to hire Soledad?

Posted by: comatus at January 31, 2013 12:51 PM (qaVK+)

Replace Beckel with her and turn Gutfeld loose, and I'd start watching that again instead of Gunsmoke reruns.

Posted by: jwb7605 (Let It Burn) at January 31, 2013 08:53 AM (Qxe/p)

The False Impression is what is imprinted on the weak-minded viewers, since that came first.

That is all that matters.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at January 31, 2013 08:53 AM (+z4pE)

This is not how a legitimate, professional news organization operates

=============

Well, no. But I don't think NBC (or MSNBC) sees themselves that way at this point.

Let's not forget, NBC blew up a car and tried to say it was spontaneous. Dateline NBC producers had rigged the truckÂ’s fuel tank with remotely controlled model rocket engines to initiate the explosion.

Dateline co-anchor Jane Pauley, apologized on air for this.

Posted by: Jay at January 31, 2013 08:53 AM (3LaGb)

21 Random act of journalism. Move along, nothing to see here.

Posted by: jakeman at January 31, 2013 08:53 AM (4xDEY)

22 Bing bing bing
/peacock

Posted by: comatus at January 31, 2013 08:53 AM (qaVK+)

23 The media is the ~~message~~ enemy.

Posted by: Joe Mama at January 31, 2013 08:54 AM (P4cxa)

24

I wonder if you have to take a purity test to be employed over there.

"The press must grow day in and day out Â— it is our Party's sharpest and most powerful weapon."

- Joe Stalin

Posted by: Rev Dr. E Buzz Yannoglanchie at January 31, 2013 08:54 AM (HQml1)

25 We have met the enemy and he is us, them, .. oh shit I'll just say its the media and get done with it...

Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna let it burn really.really bummed at January 31, 2013 08:55 AM (9+ccr)

26 The False Impression is what is imprinted on the weak-minded viewers, since that came first. That is all that matters. Yes, yes, a million times yes.

Posted by: jakeman at January 31, 2013 08:55 AM (4xDEY)

27 Is there a list of MSNBC advertisers floating around anywhere?

Posted by: Dang at January 31, 2013 08:55 AM (R18D0)

28 So, where can I find NBC's video archives? So I can chop some footage together to make it seem like their anchors are endorsing rape, pedophilia, terrorism, theft, murder, and the square toed shoes on men? They'd be cool with that, right?

Posted by: Secundus at January 31, 2013 08:56 AM (SWgCQ)

29 Whatever you do, don't investigate these journalists. Don't for example dig up dirt on them for the purposes of humiliating them professionally and personally.

Because if we did that journalists might begin to feel like people are watching their every move and might feel that acting professionally would be one way to avoid scrutiny.

Don't vet the media. It might change things.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at January 31, 2013 08:56 AM (xz0nG)

30 It is as Caudell said, they ARE the enemy. Now way around it.

We need press control

1. 5 day waiting period for all news stories
2. Background check for all news stories for veracity
3. Convicted felons not allowed to be reporter or news reader
4. Jail time for false stories
5. No more than 10 stories per reporter.

Posted by: Vic at January 31, 2013 08:56 AM (53z96)

Barky is their god...and they are his religious disciples.

This is how they justify what they do for him.

The DNCmedia has become a pack of 'religious extremists' who will persecute anyone who blasphemes their god.

Posted by: wheatie at January 31, 2013 08:56 AM (BZMZX)

Why don't they just dress up corpses in Polish uniforms?

Hey, it worked before.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 31, 2013 08:56 AM (IDSI7)

33 Dishonest, but accurate.

Posted by: Dan Rather at January 31, 2013 08:56 AM (FcR7P)

34 Replace Beckel with her and turn Gutfeld loose, and I'd start watching that again instead of Gunsmoke reruns.

I once hazed a CNN anchor, just to watch her cry.

Posted by: Greg Gutfield at January 31, 2013 08:57 AM (GQ8sn)

35 If you say it and do it often enough it becomes the truth.

Posted by: Goebbels Univ. Professor (D-Media) at January 31, 2013 08:57 AM (pmsMR)

36 FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
IGNORANCE IS KNOWLEDGE

Editing is Enlightening

Posted by: MinitrueNBC at January 31, 2013 08:57 AM (EZl54)

37 Or that appeals to emotional authority are intellectually dishonest in the first place.

Posted by: Squishy the road skunk at January 31, 2013 08:58 AM (KXm42)

38 Keep on plucking that peacock.

Posted by: WalrusRex at January 31, 2013 08:58 AM (XUKZU)

39 Vetting? Never heard of it.

Posted by: Charlie Gibson at January 31, 2013 08:58 AM (F6KtL)

40 Sheesh, it's called a "noble lie" you Philistines!

Posted by: Plato's house boy at January 31, 2013 08:59 AM (4eNxd)

41 I suspect it's just a coincidence that so many of NBC's deceptive edits relate directly to guns ... this one, Zimmerman, the black tea partier carrying the AR. Once is happenstance, twice is coincidence and the third time is enemy action.

Posted by: Andy at January 31, 2013 08:59 AM (C/NnJ)

42 Quick OT Anyone who isn't watching CSpan should be,

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 31, 2013 08:59 AM (piMMO)

They'd be cool with that, right?

Posted by: Secundus at January 31, 2013 12:56 PM (SWgCQ)

Shit dude...you don't anything but a DVR to do that. Just hit "play."

Posted by: JQP at January 31, 2013 08:59 AM (NBj0d)

44 So, where can I find NBC's video archives? So I can chop some footage together to make it seem like their anchors are endorsing rape, pedophilia, terrorism, theft, murder, and the square toed shoes on men?

That would be awesome.

Posted by: HeatherRadish, fashioning a shiv from a spork w/ the breakroom toaster at January 31, 2013 08:59 AM (ZKzrr)

The funny part is that nowadays Pravda is actually more right-wing, and more sensible, than NBC or the NYT. Seriously, check out "english.pravda.ru."

Amazing times, my friends, truly amazing times.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 31, 2013 09:00 AM (IDSI7)

46 Anyone who isn't watching CSpan should be,

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 31, 2013 12:59 PM (piMMO)

Hagel?

Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna let it burn really.really bummed at January 31, 2013 09:00 AM (9+ccr)

47 Thank God for the Associated Press. ***AHHHH! IT BURNS US TO SPEAK THOSE WORDSES!!***

Posted by: Chris W. at January 31, 2013 09:00 AM (m7mrm)

48 Look. The people in the audience should be happy they didn't have firecrackers strapped to them and then get blown up. Some people are just so fussy.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at January 31, 2013 09:00 AM (VtjlW)

49 The last member of that Dateline Team, Michele Gillen, has been a longtime member of our local CBS affiliate.

Posted by: cardinal fang at January 31, 2013 09:01 AM (Jsiw/)

50 MSNBC spokeswoman Lauren Skowronski's first rule of news editing is that you don't talk about news editing.

Posted by: WalrusRex at January 31, 2013 09:01 AM (XUKZU)

51 42 Quick OT Anyone who isn't watching CSpan should be, Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 31, 2013 12:59 PM (piMMO) ___________________ I figured it out--Manchin is there to make Hagel look smarter... At least Manchin has gained some altitude and is out of Hagel's chemtrails.

Posted by: tasker at January 31, 2013 09:01 AM (r2PLg)

52 "...And this year's Streicher Award for Journalistic Objectivity goes to..."

Posted by: Secundus at January 31, 2013 09:02 AM (SWgCQ)

53 NBC issued a statement claiming they'd reviewed the controversy, and they decided that opinions could vary on whether or not the father was "heckled" at the proceeding. Ahh, the old "At this point, what does it matter?" routine.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 31, 2013 09:03 AM (GFM2b)

54 The funny part is that nowadays Pravda is actually more right-wing, and more sensible, than NBC or the NYT. Seriously, check out "english.pravda.ru." I loved their editorial on how global warming was made up by rich whites as a pretense to institute neo-feudalism. It almost could've been a comment here at the HQ.

Posted by: Ian S. at January 31, 2013 09:03 AM (B/VB5)

42 Quick OT

Anyone who isn't watching CSpan should be,

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 31, 2013 12:59 PM (piMMO)

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Jim Inhofe is no fan of Hagel...are they letting him speak?

Posted by: wheatie at January 31, 2013 09:03 AM (BZMZX)

56 Fake but accurate bitches!!1!

Posted by: MSNBC at January 31, 2013 09:03 AM (XvHmy)

What I always love is the last line of these stories on media malpractice: "We tried to contact the network's spokesperson, but they were unavailable for comment."

Posted by: BurtTC at January 31, 2013 09:04 AM (TOk1P)

58 So, where can I find NBC's video archives? So I can chop some footage together to make it seem like their anchors are endorsing rape, pedophilia, terrorism, theft, murder, and the square toed shoes on men?

They'd be cool with that, right?

Posted by: Secundus at January 31, 2013 12:56 PM (SWgCQ)

I think we should consider targeting certain media figures in the non-violent, data-mining the shit out of them and then exposing and ridiculing them sense of the term. I doubt the private lives of many of those in the propaganda business would stand up to very close and very public scrutiny.

Say, for example, we find out that NBC CEO Stephen Burke is a furry, one of those pervy weirdos who like to have sex with other pervy weirdos while dressed up like a big stuffed animal. Nothing would be better than furnishing video or pictorial evidence this media stalwart engaging in such, ahem, activity.

The possibilities are endless.

Posted by: troyriser at January 31, 2013 09:04 AM (vtiE6)

59 I figured it out--Manchin is there to make Hagel look smarter... **** His questioning is bound to make the highlight reels tonight.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 31, 2013 09:04 AM (piMMO)

Sorry, re my "Pravda" comment above, check out one of the lead stories, entitled "American education system" Critical infrastructure, ignorant adults," which cites "video games, American Idol, late night talk shows, nonsense news and information" as factors in our lousy educational performance.

All joking aside, Pravda now is literally more reliable and informative than the American MSM.

Good God.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 31, 2013 09:04 AM (IDSI7)

Here's another subtle psychological trick Leftards love to use: a gauzy, fuzzy, "it may or may not be X" lack of any sort of definitive certainty to anything or issue.

It's almost like they're trying to say there's no concrete basis for anything, that all is subjective. It's merely more of the codified insanity of Post-Modern Thought.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at January 31, 2013 09:04 AM (+z4pE)

62 and the square toed shoes on men? Careful, you are moving into Banning territory.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 31, 2013 09:05 AM (l86i3)

This is good, but more names need to be named.

Bashir's show has a producer - why isn't this person named? Why haven't they been contacted for a statement? Oh, they refused to comment? That is news too.

Where is the reaction of the executives at NBC news? Is it so hard to pick up the phone and make the call (for either the AP or one of our reputable blogs) and report either their comments or their lack of comment?

You need to personalize this, isolate people involved or in charge, hector and ridicule until they turn on their own to get the spotlight off of them.

Posted by: jwest at January 31, 2013 09:05 AM (ZDsRL)

I hope the lawyers for Zimmerman are watching this.

NBC seems to have a persistent pattern at the corporate level for this libel and slander using deceptive editing.

Can you say Billions?

Posted by: rd at January 31, 2013 09:05 AM (zLp5I)

65 I loved their editorial on how global warming was made up by rich whites as a pretense to institute neo-feudalism. It almost could've been a comment here at the HQ.

*lightbulb*

Remember how we were talking about the Cold War here at the HQ? Remember ace or someone saying something about, we really didn't win the Cold War because the commies successfully infiltrated our schools and media?

Well....looks like we fucked with their media just like they did with ours. If Pravda is risking Polonium-210 flavoured sushi rolls with their editorials, then I'd say we really did win.

Posted by: Greg Gutfield at January 31, 2013 09:05 AM (GQ8sn)

66 "This is not how a legitimate, professional news organization operates," Bwahahahahaha! We had y'all fooled, didn't we? Legitimate. Professional. Bwahahahahahaha!!!

Posted by: rickb223 at January 31, 2013 09:05 AM (GFM2b)

67 off sock

Posted by: EC at January 31, 2013 09:06 AM (GQ8sn)

68 Jim Inhofe is no fan of Hagel...are they letting him speak? **** OH YEAH! He was up earlier. http://bit.ly/WAHZah

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 31, 2013 09:06 AM (piMMO)

69 That would be awesome. Yeah. Payback's a bitch. I HATE square toes.

Posted by: Secundus at January 31, 2013 09:06 AM (SWgCQ)

70 NBC/MSNBC are so deep in the tank for the left

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 31, 2013 09:06 AM (9Bj8R)

71 And that's when I noticed that she was sitting on her....sweet can. So I grab....her....sweet can. Ooooh, just thinking about her....can.

Posted by: NBC interviewing Homer Simpson at January 31, 2013 09:06 AM (NF2Bf)

72 Amateurish. Doctored videos are too obvious. When Dan and I did our thing we got caught, yeah, but who knew about fonts, and scripts and the "th" thing?

Posted by: Mary Mapes at January 31, 2013 09:06 AM (pmsMR)

73 Amateurish.Doctored videos are too obvious. When Dan and I did our thing we got caught, yeah, but who knew about fonts, and scripts and the "th" thing? **** reminds me of a time when LGF wasn't a bin of loonies.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 31, 2013 09:07 AM (piMMO)

74 What tools. The media does such a fabulous job covering for the liberal blowhards and King BH O, but, where do they get their "cover" from? Oh yea: silence.

Posted by: beachie keen at January 31, 2013 09:08 AM (LpQbZ)

75 Just more proof that the media are our enemies and the enemies of all freedom-loving people.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit [/i][/u][/b] at January 31, 2013 09:08 AM (4df7R)

76 If Pravda is risking Polonium-210 flavoured sushi rolls with their editorials, then I'd say we really did win. I don't think it's that so much as Putin really wanting to taunt TFG (and, re: global warming, sell oil via Gazprom). But it's still fun to read.

Posted by: Ian S. at January 31, 2013 09:08 AM (B/VB5)

77 MSNBC, "Moar exploding gas tanks!!!!"

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 31, 2013 09:09 AM (S7Hzw)

78 But first, you shall blow me!

Posted by: Mel Gibson at January 31, 2013 09:09 AM (szUf0)

79 Keep on plucking that peacock. Is that what we are calling it now?

Posted by: rickb223 at January 31, 2013 09:09 AM (GFM2b)

80 The two worlds of politics have finally fused into one mantra: Let It Burn We finally agree on something.

Posted by: beachie keen at January 31, 2013 09:09 AM (LpQbZ)

81 reminds me of a time when LGF wasn't a bin of loonies.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 31, 2013 01:07 PM (piMMO)

That was a fun place before bike boy couldn't maintain the sanity act.

Posted by: Captain Hate at January 31, 2013 09:10 AM (B/mBM)

What I always love is the last line of these stories on media malpractice: "We tried to contact the network's spokesperson, but they were unavailable for comment."

This little statement should be followed by something along the lines of, "The refusal of NBC to address the very real question of whether or not they purposely altered footage casts doubt on their commitment to be impartial in their coverage, which is clearly designed to favor one side."

Or something like that.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at January 31, 2013 09:10 AM (+z4pE)

Sorry, semi OT, but I've got the bit between my teeth now re Pravda.

From their article on American education:

From preschool to graduate school students undergo a form of distraction therapy. Video games, American Idol, late night talk shows, nonsense news and information, marketers for clothing, tech gear, music, and credit cards bombard the mind like spray wax at the end of a car wash. But this is all part of the plan for education in America. It's an education in buying and selling; what George W. Bush described as freedom, "freedom is the ability to buy and sell." He was right on many levels but no one likes to pull the curtain back and find that the education industry is just like the defense industry with contractors, consultants, presidents, CEO's, analysts, investment bankers, fraud, waste, abuse etc.

Whoa. Catch the American MSM saying Bush was right on any level about anything.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 31, 2013 09:11 AM (IDSI7)

84 If I were ABC or CBS I would report this on a steady loop.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 31, 2013 09:11 AM (l86i3)

68...Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 31, 2013 01:06 PM (piMMO)

Thanks, NDH.

Yeah, Inhofe is often the lone voice against the weasels.

He used to cross swords with Hagel on a lot of issues, iirc.

Posted by: wheatie at January 31, 2013 09:11 AM (BZMZX)

"Republican schisms deepen: conservatives mutiny against leadership"

Posted by: The Fourth Estate at January 31, 2013 09:11 AM (pmsMR)

87 That was a fun place before bike boy couldn't maintain the sanity act. **** And I miss Bill INDC as well.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 31, 2013 09:11 AM (piMMO)

88 It doesn't matter why or how it happened. The important thing is that we all work to prevent future MSNBC video editors from having to face this type of tragic scrutiny.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at January 31, 2013 09:12 AM (+lsX1)

89 We need press control

Exempt "news" from copyright protection.

Posted by: AmishDude at January 31, 2013 09:12 AM (xSegX)

90 Can we have a Hagel thread?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 31, 2013 09:12 AM (piMMO)

91 I doubt the private lives of many of those in the propaganda business would stand up to very close and very public scrutiny.

Say, for example, we find out that NBC CEO Stephen Burke is a furry, one of those pervy weirdos who like to have sex with other pervy weirdos while dressed up like a big stuffed animal. Nothing would be better than furnishing video or pictorial evidence this media stalwart engaging insuch, ahem, activity.

The possibilities are endless.

Posted by: troyriser at January 31, 2013 01:04 PM (vtiE6)

This probably should have been started after Joe The Plumber The Tea Party accusation (racist epithets) and at the least Zimmerman.

When They made it their duty to go after regular citizens for political purpose.

Posted by: ette at January 31, 2013 09:13 AM (nqBYe)

92 Easy for you to hate. Your toes aren't square. Like a real man's.

Posted by: comatus at January 31, 2013 09:14 AM (qaVK+)

93 Deb Fischer drilling Hagel now.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 31, 2013 09:14 AM (piMMO)

94 Un Petite Gangrenous Futbol? Que? Non.

Chukkkles and his comment rating system. Then the bannings and the Orwellian rewriting of the blog to remove all traces of those who sinned against his orthodoxy. Yeah it became a digital CPUSA meeting.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 31, 2013 09:14 AM (S7Hzw)

It wouldn't be that hard to find out who the video editors of Bashir's show are.

Then, as they come and go from their homes and office they are ambush interviewed. Every Fucking Day.

"Why did you change the tape?" "Who ordered you to do this?"

"How much of your previous work is altered to lie to the public?"

"Is your wife leaving you because of this?"

"Are your children ashamed of you?" "How do you sleep?"

Posted by: jwest at January 31, 2013 09:14 AM (ZDsRL)

96 68 Jim Inhofe is no fan of Hagel...are they letting him speak? **** OH YEAH! He was up earlier. http://bit.ly/WAHZah Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 31, 2013 01:06 PM (piMMO) _________________________ Is that a link to Inhofe's time? Gawd I love that guy. Off to check it out. Thanks.

Posted by: tasker at January 31, 2013 09:15 AM (r2PLg)

97 "Deb Fisher drilling Hagel" An image I really did not need.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 31, 2013 09:15 AM (S7Hzw)

98 but no one likes to pull the curtain back and find that the education industry is just like the defense industry with contractors, consultants, presidents, CEO's, analysts, investment bankers, fraud, waste, abuse etc.

Eh?

If you get defense dollars and deliver a defective product, there are consequences. If you graduate kids who can't read, you get a pension greater than the median household income.

Posted by: HeatherRadish, fashioning a shiv from a spork w/ the breakroom toaster at January 31, 2013 09:15 AM (ZKzrr)

99 >>>one of those pervy weirdos who like to have sex with other pervy
weirdos while dressed up like a big stuffed animal.

*sobs quietly*

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at January 31, 2013 09:15 AM (szUf0)

100 Deb Fischer drilling Hagel now. Donkey punch him Deb!

Posted by: rickb223 at January 31, 2013 09:15 AM (GFM2b)

101 Oops. Twitchy damnnit I missed it.

Posted by: tasker at January 31, 2013 09:16 AM (r2PLg)

102

*SNORT* Speaking of media bitchfaces, apparently the WaPo newsroom is having a slapfight with the editorial section. It's hilarious.

The story is at Buzzfeed and is linked over at Drudge.

Senator Jim Inhofe cited a blog post by conservative Washington Post bloggerJennifer Rubin during the confirmation hearing for Secretary of Defense nominee Chuck Hagel on Thursday, setting in motion a public argument on Twitter.

Inhofe, who called Rubin a reporter, cited a blog post of her's about Hagel. Shortly thereafter, Post reporter Rajiv Chandrasekaran took issue with Rubin's work on Twitter, saying that Rubin "is NOT a WaPo reporter."

His words brought into sharp relief something that has divided the Post newsroom for several years: Late to the internet and struggling to maintain its status as a top-tier news outlet, the Post turned to high-profile, often partisan bloggers, led by the liberal policy wonk Ezra Klein, to generate traffic and buzz. But the outlet's unfamiliarity with the online news environment quickly showed: Their first conservative blogger was fired in a plagiarism flap, and the second, Dave Weigel, was let go after Post management learned Â— apparently to their surprise, if not to his actual readers' Â— that he wasn't a movement conservative.

The newsroom, meanwhile, has bemoaned that the mixture of slant and partisanship has dented the newspaper's reputation for fairness and neutrality (MWR: BWA-HA-HA!), a claim the opinionated bloggers reject....

I'm laughing so hard.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit [/i][/u][/b] at January 31, 2013 09:16 AM (4df7R)

103

Facts are relative. Within the penumbra of each claimed falsehood therein lies some measure of absolute truth.

Posted by: Journalism School Professor at January 31, 2013 09:17 AM (pmsMR)

104 one of those pervy weirdos who like to have sex with other pervy weirdos while dressed up like a big stuffed animal.

I don't get that. Is there like a.....hatch or something down there that opens, so the two can "connect"?

Posted by: EC at January 31, 2013 09:18 AM (GQ8sn)

105 Don't ya love what passes for thought at NBC. People can watch and make up their mind if it was heckling or not.... So when you watch a doctored tape and come to the wrong conclusion (but the one they intended) it is the viewer's fault and not NBC's. Love that logic. Of course the implied statement is that it is the truth that is 'wrong' and NBC and the viewer are truthy.

Posted by: John Morris at January 31, 2013 09:18 AM (sCRhB)

106 We tried to contact the network's spokesperson, but they were unavailable for comment. Maybe they had a concussion. The important thing is that you tried.

Posted by: t-bird at January 31, 2013 09:18 AM (FcR7P)

107

"Are your children ashamed of you?" "How do you sleep?"

"Have you stopped molesting children yet?"

"Who really paid for your last rehab stay?"

Damn, this is fun.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at January 31, 2013 09:18 AM (+z4pE)

108

91...This probably should have been started after Joe The Plumber The Tea Party accusation (racist epithets) and at the least Zimmerman.When They made it their duty to go after regular citizens for political purpose.

Barky is their god.

And Zimmerman killed his 'son'.

So they went after Zimmerman with all the religious zeal of Al Jazeera.

Posted by: wheatie at January 31, 2013 09:18 AM (BZMZX)

109 The newsroom, meanwhile, has bemoaned that the mixture of slant and partisanship has dented the newspaper's reputation for fairness and neutrality (MWR: BWA-HA-HA!), a claim the opinionated bloggers reject.... I'm laughing so hard. Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at January 31, 2013 01:16 PM (4df7R) ______________________ Gawd-what a bunch of assholes.

Posted by: tasker at January 31, 2013 09:18 AM (r2PLg)

110 This probably should have been started after Joe The Plumber The Tea Party accusation (racist epithets) and at the least Zimmerman.When They made it their duty to go after regular citizens for political purpose.

Posted by: ette at January 31, 2013 01:13 PM (nqBYe)

Better late than never. Think of it as applied game theory: tit for tat with escalating retaliation.

Posted by: troyriser at January 31, 2013 09:18 AM (vtiE6)

111 Jwest, why stop there? Go after everyone. Their organization is engaged in an endless campaign against us. Do they have any sex offenders on their payroll, anywhere? People who owe taxes? Child abusers, ugly divorces, repossessed cars, cokehead mom, sex club platinum membership? How about, "If you take money from these people and help them screw us we will find every piece of dirt on you and show it to everyone on earth."

Posted by: Secundus at January 31, 2013 09:18 AM (SWgCQ)

112 If you get defense dollars and deliver a defective product, there are consequences. If you graduate kids who can't read, you get a pension greater than the median household income. Posted by: HeatherRadish, fashioning a shiv from a spork w/ the breakroom toaster at January 31, 2013 01:15 PM (ZKzrr) I'm not sure about other states but only 52% of all education funds in NC ever make it to a classroom. Everything else is waste. If you consider nearly a thousand 100K+ academics and beaurocrats manning a state dept of ed headquarters waste, and I do.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 31, 2013 09:18 AM (l86i3)

113 EC, just send them a gift from Japan, Pedobear.... *thud*

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 31, 2013 09:18 AM (S7Hzw)

114 Jen Rubin is a "reporter" like an underage Domincan whore is a Senator's "personal assistant."

Posted by: wooga at January 31, 2013 09:20 AM (tNWB8)

115 Bloggers never got the proper journalism training.

Dontcha know

Layers of fact checking, people.

Layers.

Posted by: Squishy the road skunk at January 31, 2013 09:20 AM (KXm42)

116 MWR, sounds like WaPo security better sweep the building for illegal firearms before there is workplace violence because of this tiff.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 31, 2013 09:20 AM (S7Hzw)

117 Better late than never. Think of it as applied game theory: tit for tat with escalating retaliation. **** More fuel for the Zimmerman lawsuit.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 31, 2013 09:20 AM (piMMO)

118 MWR, sounds like WaPo security better sweep the building for illegal firearms before there is workplace violence because of this tiff.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 31, 2013 01:20 PM (S7Hzw)

Better confiscate everyone's scissors.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit [/i][/u][/b] at January 31, 2013 09:21 AM (4df7R)

119 EC, just send them a gift from Japan, Pedobear.... *thud*

I'm assuming that those are full outfits so they can stay in "character". If they have to undress, then it seems the whole illusion is broken.

In other news, people are fucked up.

Posted by: EC at January 31, 2013 09:21 AM (GQ8sn)

120 wheatie uh hmm. I choose these hills, because most regular citizens do not have any means financial or otherwise to fight .

yeah going after corporations as they did with chevy back in the day. offensive, but they have atty's money, the means to fight back.
citizen joe or jane not so much.

Posted by: ette at January 31, 2013 09:21 AM (nqBYe)

121 Keep on plucking that peacock.
Is that what we are calling it now?

I prefer de-downing the duck.

Posted by: andycanuck at January 31, 2013 09:21 AM (ORGYc)

122 all together now What difference does it make? ;-)

Posted by: Rich at January 31, 2013 09:21 AM (fxjo5)

123 Just like John Kerry's new spokesman at State is the guy whose job it was to cover John Kerry at the Boston Globe.

It's almost like there's some sort of ideological kinship here; a seemless integration of politics and media, where everything flows the same way.

Oh, and thinking of the Menendez story: You mean to tell me not one fucking person in the entire Republican Party knew about this? Not one single person said, "Hey, we should have someone whose job it is to dig around and find dirt on the Democrats?"

No. That's not true: They knew, there's lots of people in the Republican Party who knew about this, knew what was going on.

Now: You ask yourself, what could possibly motive them to keep quiet, look the other way?

Posted by: RoyalOil at January 31, 2013 09:21 AM (imtbm)

124 Someone at the AP just got dropped from Journolist 2.0

Posted by: TallDave at January 31, 2013 09:21 AM (/s1LA)

125 MSNBC is a network?

Perhaps- but is their audience mostly black?

Posted by: Marcus at January 31, 2013 09:22 AM (GGCsk)

126 >>>I don't get that. Is there like a.....hatch or something down there that opens, so the two can "connect"? Yes. And I only know this because I watch The Soup, which had clips from a jigolo show episode involving a furry. Seriously, don't look at me like that.

Posted by: wooga at January 31, 2013 09:22 AM (tNWB8)

127 I don't get that. Is there like a.....hatch or something down there that opens, so the two can "connect"?

Posted by: EC at January 31, 2013 01:18 PM (GQ8sn)

Don't want to know. Don't need that image in my head.

Posted by: troyriser at January 31, 2013 09:22 AM (vtiE6)

128 MWR don't forget the rubber bands and staplers.

EC putting many of the Dems in Pedobear fur suits would improve their image tremendously.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 31, 2013 09:22 AM (S7Hzw)

129 122 all together now What difference does it make? ;-) Posted by: Rich at January 31, 2013 01:21 PM (fxjo5) ___________________ *shit*.

Posted by: tasker at January 31, 2013 09:23 AM (r2PLg)

130 What difference does it make?

;-)

Posted by: Rich at January 31, 2013 01:21 PM (fxjo5)

none, it's just a 'bump in the road'

(to be caught)

Posted by: ette at January 31, 2013 09:23 AM (nqBYe)

131 "MSNBC -- Because what difference does it make?"

Posted by: eleven at January 31, 2013 09:23 AM (KXm42)

132 The Obama Administration just found an excuse to never respond in a timely fashion to any threat-- "we had to wait for Hagel to make a decision!"

Posted by: tasker at January 31, 2013 09:24 AM (r2PLg)

133 Lindsey Graham opens with "You're a good honest man"

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 31, 2013 09:24 AM (piMMO)

134 Just think how many times that NBC has done this to our news and gotten away with it. We only know of the times that they got caught.

Posted by: wg at January 31, 2013 09:25 AM (uVc0d)

135 Wait. He might have been setting him up.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 31, 2013 09:25 AM (piMMO)

136 NDH, oh no!!! Graham just called Hegel Charlie Brown.....

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 31, 2013 09:25 AM (S7Hzw)

137 Wow.... holy rope a dope.

Posted by: tasker at January 31, 2013 09:25 AM (r2PLg)

138 Several thousand hand written letters to the FCC would get their attention.

Posted by: Burglars & Thieves local 392 at January 31, 2013 09:25 AM (GlnE7)

139

@ ette,

Joe the Plumber...dared...to question their Lord Barky.

So he must be punished!

The Tea Party...dared...to protest the Lord Barky's policies.

So they must be crushed!

Any lies told in the service of their Lord Barky are justified!

The Lord Barky must not be blasphemed!

We should just shut up...and be grateful that they let us live.

Posted by: wheatie at January 31, 2013 09:26 AM (BZMZX)

140 Damn! Score one for Graham!!!!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 31, 2013 09:26 AM (piMMO)

141 More fuel for the Zimmerman lawsuit.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 31, 2013 01:20 PM (piMMO)

I advocate nothing illegal, ever. Purusing publicly accessible information is not a criminal act.

Posted by: troyriser at January 31, 2013 09:26 AM (vtiE6)

142 135 Wait. He might have been setting him up. Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 31, 2013 01:25 PM (piMMO) _________ Yep. Wow--Hagel is melting.

Posted by: tasker at January 31, 2013 09:26 AM (r2PLg)

143 Lindsey Graham opens with "You're a good honest man"

Stays bought.

Posted by: eleven at January 31, 2013 09:26 AM (KXm42)

144 Someone should selectively edit a bunch of NBC clips on a variety of subjects to show that NBC actually supports the opposite of what it does.

Posted by: SFGoth at January 31, 2013 09:26 AM (dZ756)

145 No, you gotta read the WHOLE NY Times piece about Chicago and guns. They are not concluding that Chicago's strict gun laws are not working. What Chicago says (and the NY Times reports) is that it is the weak gun laws OUTSIDE its borders, in WI, IN, and downstate IL, that make their gun violence so uncontrollable. So, case closed. The fight must continue, on the Federal level. It is what they all are saying.

Posted by: The littl shyning man at January 31, 2013 09:26 AM (PH+2B)

146 Wow.... holy rope a dope. **** No shit!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 31, 2013 09:26 AM (piMMO)

147 maybe another idea would be to have a youtube channel
'what media doesn't tell you'

show a scene media talking about an incident and what they left out?
ask why?
might be a stupid idea as i don't even know how to do a video.

Posted by: ette at January 31, 2013 09:26 AM (nqBYe)

148 Pubs really need to come up with a strategy to neuter these guys, maybe a restructure of the FCC broadcast licenses (long overdue). I would love to see a critical analysis of their finances, so we could target what would hurt them the most.

Posted by: Jean at January 31, 2013 09:26 AM (EYbqR)

149 Dollars to doughnuts Chris Christie knew about Menendez' troubles

Posted by: thunderb at January 31, 2013 09:26 AM (Dnbau)

150 opinions could vary on whether or not the Nazi's were mass murdering Jews or whether the Joos were involved in a conspiracy to steal German Zyklon B gas with their lungs.

Posted by: MSNBC at January 31, 2013 09:26 AM (SO2Q8)

151

How will this end? Easy.

In a few hours, Martin Bashir will begin his program by saying that a poorly edited piece of video (what they used) was received by a junior staffer at MSNBC from an acquaintance at Media Matters.

Without taking the time to check it or put it through the layers upon layers of fact checkers, it was put into a segement that Mr. Bashir had no prior knowledge of.

MSNBC regrets the error. The junior staffer has been dismissed and procedures have been put in place to assure this doesn't happen again.

Posted by: jwest at January 31, 2013 09:27 AM (ZDsRL)

152 Well what what?

Posted by: eleven at January 31, 2013 09:27 AM (KXm42)

153 I wonder if RICO can be used against MSNBC. The way they edit these clips indicates it is organized and for a partisan purpose.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 31, 2013 09:27 AM (S7Hzw)

154 Look, I'm not a judgmental person, but furries are just wrong. Wrong. Wrong. Wrong.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at January 31, 2013 09:27 AM (VtjlW)

155 Stays bought. **** Totally set the dude up! I'm impressed. He lowered his defenses and then hammered him.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 31, 2013 09:27 AM (piMMO)

156 Ok fuck it. If anyone wants to post a list of names of the people that work at NBC, I can run some basic open source background checks on them. If you want me to do it post it here and their kids too. Fuck em, I'm sure they at least have some parking tickets. Name, dob, and state of residence is all I would need. Name and dob at minimum.

Posted by: Mr Pink at January 31, 2013 09:28 AM (+K5zQ)

157 Lindsey Graham opens with "You're a good honest man"

Stays bought.

No, Lindsey is the biggest bitch at Senate High School. He's aggressive-passive.

Posted by: AmishDude at January 31, 2013 09:28 AM (xSegX)

158 149 Dollars to doughnuts Chris Christie knew about Menendez' troubles

Posted by: thunderb at January 31, 2013 01:26 PM (Dnbau)

ISWYDT.
Well played.

Posted by: jwb7605 (Let It Burn) at January 31, 2013 09:28 AM (Qxe/p)

159 *perks up cat ears at Alexthechick* Nyah???

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 31, 2013 09:28 AM (S7Hzw)

160 Look, I'm not a judgmental person, but furries are just wrong. Wrong. Wrong. Wrong.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at January 31, 2013 01:27 PM (VtjlW)

Trolling them is fun. They're very sensitive about their 'fursonas'. lol.

Posted by: troyriser at January 31, 2013 09:28 AM (vtiE6)

161 This is one of the things that made the loss of Brietbart even more tragic than the death of a good and great man--he excelled at dissecting the faux news pimped out by CBS/NBC/ABC and exposing the lies.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at January 31, 2013 09:28 AM (kXoT0)

162 hagel's opening was painful.....

Posted by: phoenixgirl waiting for spring training at January 31, 2013 09:29 AM (GVxQo)

163 Graham is bringing it??? Miss Graham has a pair, who knew??

Posted by: thunderb at January 31, 2013 09:29 AM (Dnbau)

164 Dang. Look at Graham's body language.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 31, 2013 09:29 AM (piMMO)

165 Damn, the left counts the votes and controls the message, what could possibly go wrong with that?

Incrementalism, how do it work?

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at January 31, 2013 09:29 AM (kXoT0)

166
We should just shut up...and be grateful that they let us live.

Posted by: wheatie at January 31, 2013 01:26 PM (BZMZX)

hahah. hmm, takes back short laugh,

yeah they are definitely using intimidation. pretty much dailty

outcasting, lying, shaming, maligning.. yep.

Posted by: ette at January 31, 2013 09:30 AM (nqBYe)

167 Totally related to this post.
http://is.gd/Ynyga0

Posted by: HeatherRadish, fashioning a shiv from a spork w/ the breakroom toaster at January 31, 2013 09:30 AM (ZKzrr)

168 re: "The funny part is that nowadays Pravda is actually more right-wing, and more sensible, than NBC or the NYT."

No. To all such things. You guys sound like lefties saying they have to go to Al Jazeera to get the truth about Bush (and, incidentally, to learn about the Joos).

Pravda contains things that are more right-wing-sensible than NBC or the NYT do, because the NYT's and NBC's audiences won't tolerate any unorthodoxy. Pravda has a longer view.

Their "American" editorials are largely taken off a feed from WorldMeets.US, an NGO specializing in anti-American propaganda translations, most popularly those from La Jornada, a Mexican paper so old-Pravda, Noam Chomsky advertises it as the only "independent" newspaper in the West. Just for example, the lefty wet dream that the guy who shot Giffords did it to Save America For Palin was first aired as truth in La Jornada. Every English-language repetition of that claim was sourced from Pravda's reprint.

It's the official media outlet of the fucking CPRF. That's commies, dude. Real ones. Not bullshit American-college "Marxian" gulag-fantasy pussies. Ones who'll shoot you themselves.

Don't get played.

Posted by: oblig. at January 31, 2013 09:30 AM (cePv8)

169 I wonder if RICO can be used against MSNBC.

AG Eric Holder says hello.

Posted by: EC at January 31, 2013 09:30 AM (GQ8sn)

170 Just think how many times that NBC has done this to our news and gotten away with it. We only know of the times that they got caught.

The fakery is being caught almost in real-time as it stands now in the intertubes/blog era, but its still a reactive process.

Pavlov trained his dogs. NBC need to be trained in a way that makes faking shit too painful to contemplate.

Posted by: Burglars & Thieves local 392 at January 31, 2013 09:30 AM (GlnE7)

171

You know what I bet is happening that is causing all these media outlets to simultaneously start PMSing? What with the AP calling out NBC, and this internal WaPo feud, and the strife over at CNN, etc? Now that the election is over, I bet that all of Obammy's media buttboys aren't getting the super-special preferential treatment from 1600 Pennsylvania Ave anymore. The phone's stopped ringing and the Preezy isn't answering their text messages. And just like any jilted woman with a clingy-complex will make everyone's life a living hell if she feels she's been unfairly dumped by her boyfriend, so, too, will the MFM.

I suspect that there's a lot of fingerpointing and blame-casting behind the scenes. Lots of suspicious glares and accusations: "You homewrecker! You stole him from me! I used to go to all the trendy White House parties, and now only YOU get invited!"

It's a media catfight, and everyone's piling on.

I LOVE IT.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit [/i][/u][/b] at January 31, 2013 09:30 AM (4df7R)

172 Miss Graham has a pair, who knew??

His tailor and his boyfriend.

Posted by: HeatherRadish, fashioning a shiv from a spork w/ the breakroom toaster at January 31, 2013 09:30 AM (ZKzrr)

173

What Chicago says (and the NY Times reports) is that it is the weak gun laws OUTSIDE its borders, in WI, IN, and downstate IL, that make their gun violence so uncontrollable.

---

So logically, those areas outside the borders should also suffer from uncontrollable violence....

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at January 31, 2013 09:30 AM (SO2Q8)

174 Problem is--if we flush out Hagel--they'll come with Fonda--Jane.

Posted by: tasker at January 31, 2013 09:31 AM (r2PLg)

175

Posted by: Mr Pink at January 31, 2013 01:28 PM (+K5zQ)

If you're interested, use the link on my username, which leads to my online portfolio. Click on the 'contact' link and establish email contact. I have some ideas.

Posted by: troyriser at January 31, 2013 09:31 AM (vtiE6)

176 Graham is beclowning Hagel, who sounds, uh dumb

Posted by: thunderb at January 31, 2013 09:31 AM (Dnbau)

177 Problem is--if we flush out Hagel--they'll come with Fonda--Jane. **** You never know what their strategy is. Hagel could be a gimme.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 31, 2013 09:31 AM (piMMO)

178 Look, I'm not a judgmental person, but furries are just wrong. Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. Shit. Need to adjust my font size. Read that as "furry thong".

Posted by: rickb223 at January 31, 2013 09:31 AM (GFM2b)

179 *perks up cat ears at Alexthechick* Nyah??? Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 31, 2013 01:28 PM (S7Hzw) Oh man. The BFF used to wave copies of Loveless at me just to be mean.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at January 31, 2013 09:31 AM (VtjlW)

180 It's the official media outlet of the fucking CPRF. That's commies, dude. Real ones. Not bullshit American-college "Marxian" gulag-fantasy pussies. Ones who'll shoot you themselves.

Don't get played.

Still better than the New York Times.

Posted by: AmishDude at January 31, 2013 09:32 AM (xSegX)

181 Miss Graham DOES NOT like Islamofacists??!!! Holding his feet to the fire

Posted by: thunderb at January 31, 2013 09:32 AM (Dnbau)

182 We should just shut up...and be grateful that they let us live. Posted by: wheatie at January 31, 2013 01:26 PM (BZMZX)

Drop any of those editors in a real world situation and they will find out just whom lets who live. Ask the reporter who now carries a socket wrench to protect his pretty prissy little self in his new "edgy" neighborhood in LA. He must not love himself or he would be packing a Glock, not a Craftsman.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at January 31, 2013 09:32 AM (kXoT0)

183 The accidental paycheck theory is BS.

Sure, anybody can fool any employer for a while. But, when enough time has passed employers know what their employees do -- and if they keep giving them paychecks for it -- then it is entirely reasonable to conclude that employer wants that employee to behave in that manner.

NBC reflects the boardroom that authorizes the paychecks. Yes, my fellow righties, it really is about "the corporations." Unless you believe in accidental paychecks.

Now, if that statement makes you mad -- at least ask yourself the question "why would any corporation pay these assholes when a Beverly Hillbillies rerun would probably get the same ratings at a much lower cost?"

It must be those accidental paychecks. They are everywhere. Strangely enough though, no one ever writes me one. I do actually know a couple people who get "I can't believe I am still writing you these" paychecks. Both are government workers that everyone wants to fire but can't because of union rules. Is MSNBC secretly a government unionized shop? No? Then how could those paychecks be an accident?

Posted by: jc at January 31, 2013 09:32 AM (PlzOe)

184 i hate graham like i hate mccain.....but sometimes he gives me a reason to like him.....but before i do....he does something so vile i hate him more than i did before

Posted by: phoenixgirl waiting for spring training at January 31, 2013 09:32 AM (GVxQo)

185 Inhofe is bringing it to Hagel as well.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at January 31, 2013 09:32 AM (kXoT0)

186 I'd add, that "training" will of necessity require destroying a few NBC staff's lives and livelihood to provide suitably persuasive examples for the rest.

I didn't used to be a fan of that sort of thing, but I've come around recently and believe I can live with it.

Posted by: Burglars & Thieves local 392 at January 31, 2013 09:33 AM (GlnE7)

187 Better confiscate everyone's scissors.

*cue Jack Nicholson voice*

"Wait'll they get a load of me! "

Posted by: Swingline Semi-Automatic Assault Stapler at January 31, 2013 09:33 AM (EZl54)

188 troyriser, many of the young furs have the mindset of the FSA community. It's who I am and I will wear my wolf costume to the mall. And if security freaks well that's because they just don't understand and are getting off on their power trips. And oh yeah screw grandma who tries to shield her grandkids from me... I only think about me me and me don't care if I offend anyone else.

Spoilt children.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 31, 2013 09:33 AM (S7Hzw)

189 Fuck Hagel. I am not buying the he is he best we can hope for. When do we stand up

Posted by: thunderb at January 31, 2013 09:33 AM (Dnbau)

190 There will, it seems, be a second round of questioning.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 31, 2013 09:33 AM (piMMO)

191 Posted by: Swingline Semi-Automatic Assault Stapler

There you are.

Posted by: Milton Waddams at January 31, 2013 09:34 AM (ZKzrr)

192 Blumenthal up now.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 31, 2013 09:34 AM (piMMO)

193 Fuck Hagel. I am not buying the he is he best we can hope for. When do we stand up

It doesn't matter who we get policy-wise. I'd rather it not be a former Republican Senator and an imbecile for cover. Let Barky's gutting of the military be on the head of him and some nobody assistant secretary promoted to the big chair.

Posted by: AmishDude at January 31, 2013 09:35 AM (xSegX)

194 Better confiscate everyone's scissors.

*cue Jack Nicholson voice*

"Wait'll they get a load of me! "

Posted by: Swingline Semi-Automatic Assault Stapler at January 31, 2013 01:33 PM (EZl54)

I have posted before...buy a damn nail gun from Lowe's or Home Depot, you think a nail through the noggin can't kill? Or that funny little gadget that looks like a bug sprayer that the killer in There Will Be Blood used on his victims.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at January 31, 2013 09:35 AM (kXoT0)

195 New Hagel thread.

Posted by: Tami[/i] at January 31, 2013 09:35 AM (X6akg)

196 By the way, I truly grieve with these families. May God Bless them and their children. I admire their strength because if that was me, I'd probably have hung myself already.

That being said, statements made in grief while emotionally compelling are not necessarily true or righteous. We are a nation of laws, not emotions and the actions of one insane person is not cause to dilute our rights. Nor is it the process by which such things occur in a democracy.

We've seen far too much of a party in charge and their liege assume powers they do not possess or obfuscate constitutional process in the name of some perceived utopian good. In our Democratic Republic we call that tyranny and acts of despotism.

If you want to change the Second Amendment, there is a process to do so. No amount of legislating can effectively change that, nor should it.

Why is there opposition to the gun bans and limitations under discussion? Because most rational people intuitively know they would not have, nor will they in the future prevent such tragedies. And so they have seen them for what they are; ill-advised emotional acts or a deliberate strategy by people already opposed to guns using this tragedy to despicably further their agendas.

Posted by: Marcus at January 31, 2013 09:35 AM (GGCsk)

197 stolen valor vet Blumenthal congrating Hagel on his service. Whatevs.

Posted by: thunderb at January 31, 2013 09:35 AM (Dnbau)

198 I will wear my wolf costume... And oh yeah screw grandma

I think you're supposed to eat Grandma.

Wow, nothing disturbing about that. O_O

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at January 31, 2013 09:35 AM (ZKzrr)

199 193 Fuck Hagel. I am not buying the he is he best we can hope for. When do we stand up It doesn't matter who we get policy-wise. I'd rather it not be a former Republican Senator and an imbecile for cover. Let Barky's gutting of the military be on the head of him and some nobody assistant secretary promoted to the big chair. Posted by: AmishDude at January 31, 2013 01:35 PM (xSegX) ___________ Damn it that's a good point.

Posted by: tasker at January 31, 2013 09:36 AM (r2PLg)

200 So logically, those areas outside the borders should also suffer from uncontrollable violence..

The pathology isn't hardware, its liberal run large urban areas that are soft on crime.

If you lock up enough criminals for long enough, problems kinda dry up.

Posted by: Burglars & Thieves local 392 at January 31, 2013 09:36 AM (GlnE7)

201 UN: Israel must withdraw from Judea and Samaria http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/164771#.UQq5eL_LRIF

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 31, 2013 09:36 AM (piMMO)

202 Sorry to hear that Alexthechick. So is the BFF's picture on milk cartons now?

I guess you won't like this video then of Amy the Squirrel and really cheesy gags. From 1994 and created on Amiga computers.
http://youtu.be/T8Yh8_rfTMQ

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 31, 2013 09:36 AM (S7Hzw)

203

184 Inhofe is bringing it to Hagel as well.

He didn't vote for Kerry's confirmation either.

Inhofe was one of three, who voted against Kerry.

Cruz and Cornyn were the other two.

Posted by: wheatie at January 31, 2013 09:37 AM (BZMZX)

204 197 stolen valor vet Blumenthal ___________ Is that the guy? Cripes I forgot about that. yuck.

Posted by: tasker at January 31, 2013 09:37 AM (r2PLg)

205

OT a bit - the Seattle Times this morning did not have One. Fucking. Word. about the revised figures that showed the economy contracted slightly in 4Q2012. It. Did. Not. Happen. You hear people?!!

I encourage all here to write to the Times Executive Editor and express our condolences that he has such a tiny, tiny pee-pee.

Boardman@SeattleTimes.com">DBoardman@SeattleTimes.com

(206) 464-2205

Posted by: sherlock at January 31, 2013 09:39 AM (b9fEe)

206 New post--on Hagel. Thanks Ace!

Posted by: tasker at January 31, 2013 09:40 AM (r2PLg)

207 whether or not the father was "heckled" at the proceeding.

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Not at all. In fact, out of deference to his mourning, the audience remained silent, despite the obvious answer being the Bill of Rights 2nd Amendment.

If there were any heckling, it was from the father who wasn't about to let his crisis go to waste, but was up front and personal accosting the public, denouncing the 2nd Amendment as if asking a rhetorical question, and declaring not only that there is no legitimate reason for anyone (in the room) to own firearms, but that the audience's polite silence that was in consideration for his mourning meant approval of his stand against our nation's Constitution when it comes to our citizens' right to own firearms.

To fall back on "a matter of opinion" and again, that the onus being on the public to honor HIS opinion above their own, really was obnoxious, imho.

Posted by: panzernashorn at January 31, 2013 09:40 AM (MhA4j)

208 He didn't vote for Kerry's confirmation either.
Inhofe was one of three, who voted against Kerry.
Cruz and Cornyn were the other two.
Posted by: wheatie at January 31, 2013 01:37 PM (BZMZX)

He also just published a book debunking Global Warming. He has been on the forefront of that.
The Greatest Hoax: How the Global Warming Conspiracy Threatens Your Future

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at January 31, 2013 09:51 AM (kXoT0)

209 Replace Beckel with her and turn Gutfeld loose, and I'd start watching that again instead of Gunsmoke reruns. If FNC cuts Gutfeld loose, I will have no reason left to watch FNC. I'm down to Red Eye and The Five now, both still on my radar because of Gutfeld.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at January 31, 2013 10:00 AM (7ObY1)

210 It's been said many times and I'll say it again;

If you want to know what's really going on in America you have to go to the British media

Posted by: kbdabear at January 31, 2013 10:11 AM (wwsoB)

211 reminds me of a time when LGF wasn't a bin of loonies.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse

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That was a fun time. Then the meds wore off on CJ.

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at January 31, 2013 10:18 AM (uhftQ)

212 jc@183: Of course it is the corporations. When will we get wise to that? We lost those over a generation ago at least. O'Sullivan's Law in action.

Look at the life cycle of a typical corporation. Capitalist founder grows new company, IPO happens and more growth. Sooner (if venture capital is involved) or later (like Microsoft or Walmart with a big personality founder) the founder dies, retires or is pushed aside. What happens then? Responsible, professional 'adult' management takes over. Which typically means Harvard and Yale MBA types. Socialists.

And even before the founder goes the pressure starts right after the IPO. Institutional investors, which these days increasingly means pension funds. Who runs those? And as major stockholders these snot nosed forty something Harvard types start pushing 'socially responsible investing', 'socially responsible corporate citizenship' and all the other socialist catchphrases that all boil down to snot nosed Harvard MBAs get to misspend shareholder wealth on pet projects. And use the corporations to push an agenda. See GE/Comcast/NBC, Disney/ABC, TimeWarner/HBO/CNN, etc. They are willing to run the Party Media operations at a loss to the shareholders and subsidize it from profits out of the other divisions.

We have to be thinking about ways to win that battle. And the only way I see is to make publicly traded corporations less attractive ways to organize capital.

Posted by: John Morris at January 31, 2013 10:26 AM (sCRhB)

213 IF CNN (or ABC, CBS) were smart, they would start attacking NBC with this. Challenge them as a 'news' source and invite viewers to a channel that will not doctor 'news' to suit a political agenda. It will be lies, but at least they will sink NBC even further.

Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262© at January 31, 2013 10:58 AM (UU0OF)

214 NBC doesn't care what you guys think about their bias, but I bet Comcast does. If you are in a market where Comcast is competing with Dish/Direct and Fios, now might be a good time to consider getting rid of the cable. I'm not much for boycotts, but I got rid of cable strictly for financial reasons and life is a lot better without Comcast. I wish I had waited a little longer so I could link it to NBC and these edits, this one being the last straw.

Posted by: AlanR at January 31, 2013 10:58 AM (L4Z+2)

215 "The real question -- and there is no question about the answer to this question -- was whether or not NBC once again doctored video or audio to create a false impression for purposes of sensationalizing a story for its liberal partisan audience."

Ford Pintos hardest hit.

Posted by: VekTor at January 31, 2013 03:53 PM (N7DZ0)

216 The NBC peacock should have all its tail feathers be various shades of yellow from here on out. NBC. Yellow. Journalism. 24/7/365.

Posted by: dissent555 at January 31, 2013 04:12 PM (yR6A1)

217 139 @ ette,

Joe the Plumber...dared...to question their Lord Barky.
So he must be punished!

The Tea Party...dared...to protest the Lord Barky's policies.
So they must be crushed!

Any lies told in the service of their Lord Barky are justified!
The Lord Barky must not be blasphemed!

We should just shut up...and be grateful that they let us live.

Posted by: wheatie at January 31, 2013 01:26 PM (BZMZX)

One word - taqiyya.

Posted by: Decaf at February 01, 2013 08:25 AM (NmvvV)

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