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June 07, 2013

Are You Ready for a Drone Controlled Only By Human Thought?
— Ace

A helmet studded with electroencephalographic sensors picks up electrical activity in the brain for natural sorts of motive thoughts -- move right hand, move left hand, move arms, and so on.

The miniature helicopter, a very basic hobbyists' four-rotor toy, follows those mental commands.

In theory.

Even though this sounds like a military project the test was conducted for medical reasons.

Previously, researchers showed that subjects could control a virtual helicopter with their thoughts. The latest demo--using a real, live helicopter--is just another step toward more practical applications, with the ultimate goal being to help people with disabilities and neurdegenerative dieseases regain mobility, says researcher Bin He, a professor of biomedicial engineering at the University of Michigan.

Learning how to control a helicopter with the power of thought is an intermediate step towards learning how to control a prosthetic arm, maybe even a hand by mental command. Perhaps even mentally-controlled prosthetic legs.

Though, of course, one can still foresee military uses down the line. The more intuitive a control system is, the more machinery has been made to adapt to man rather than man to machine, the better, I think.

Posted by: Ace at 10:12 AM | Comments (196)
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1 I want one To the eBay!!!

Posted by: Navycopjoe at June 07, 2013 10:12 AM (fmjNz)

2 If you attach that helmet to Baraka's head, Kal Penn's ass starts to hurt.

Posted by: logprof at June 07, 2013 10:12 AM (fOFYL)

3 Can it make Kirk kiss Uhura?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 07, 2013 10:12 AM (+98Gb)

4 Combined that with Google Glasses...fun!

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at June 07, 2013 10:12 AM (HDgX3)

5 'Angelic Layer'! It is here!

Posted by: Madtom at June 07, 2013 10:13 AM (IyxzF)

6 >>>Are You Ready for a Drone Controlled Only By Human Thought?

Some of us call them low level employees.

Posted by: King Barry of the Sequestered Keister at June 07, 2013 10:13 AM (UzPAd)

7 FIREFOX!!!

Posted by: angler at June 07, 2013 10:13 AM (SwjAj)

8 Got to remember to think in Russian! Think in Russian!

Posted by: CC at June 07, 2013 10:13 AM (A+Su2)

9 Go ahead and put a bunch of sensors on your brain. We won't monitor those, promise.

Posted by: NSA at June 07, 2013 10:13 AM (eV1I0)

10 Firefox did this.

Posted by: EC at June 07, 2013 10:13 AM (GQ8sn)

11 Oh, for the final thought I have to disagree Military training and written procedures can overcome operator error

Posted by: Navycopjoe at June 07, 2013 10:13 AM (fmjNz)

12 So, with the proper, uh, prosthetic, I could lie on the couch and handle everything just by thinking about it?

Posted by: Typical filthy moron at June 07, 2013 10:14 AM (RD7QR)

13 MUST THINK IN RUSSIAN!

Posted by: Phinn at June 07, 2013 10:14 AM (oFH2D)

14 This sounds like a bad idea, says half of the science fiction movies ever made.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at June 07, 2013 10:14 AM (7ObY1)

15 You guys are fast!

Posted by: Phinn at June 07, 2013 10:14 AM (oFH2D)

16 13 MUST THINK IN RUSSIAN! Posted by: Phinn at June 07, 2013 02:14 PM (oFH2D) Your reference has several ironic double meanings.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 07, 2013 10:14 AM (+98Gb)

17 When they make a helmet that'll control my wife and kid call me

Posted by: Navycopjoe at June 07, 2013 10:15 AM (fmjNz)

18 We can do practice runs by turning JEF's teleprompter off and on. Randomly.

Posted by: Ms. Plinkett - Ace's life coach at June 07, 2013 10:15 AM (XYSwB)

19 15 You guys are fast! Posted by: Phinn at June 07, 2013 02:14 PM (oFH2D) ...but slow, where it counts.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 07, 2013 10:15 AM (+98Gb)

20 Remember Brian Dennehy in Firefox?

Posted by: kevlarchick at June 07, 2013 10:15 AM (+dlqq)

21 Your reference has several ironic double meanings

My brain, it works that way permanently now.

Posted by: Phinn at June 07, 2013 10:15 AM (oFH2D)

22 I have just folded space from Ix.

Many new machines on Ix.

Posted by: EC at June 07, 2013 10:16 AM (GQ8sn)

23 I saw a TED talk recently (not sure how old it was) of an ape being taught how to do this. It started with a game controlled by joystick (I think), and then it learned to move the cursor with thoughts of moving its arms. Neat stuff.

Posted by: SMOD at June 07, 2013 10:16 AM (oATMN)

24 20 Remember Brian Dennehy in Firefox? Posted by: kevlarchick at June 07, 2013 02:15 PM (+dlqq) I remember Ron Jeremy in Firefucks...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 07, 2013 10:16 AM (+98Gb)

25 What happens to the craft when your focus inevitable slips from helicopter flying to muff diving?

Or maybe that's just me.

Posted by: VA Gator at June 07, 2013 10:16 AM (ZZiTD)

26 move right hand, move left hand Bawney and Reggie will have a field day with this.

Posted by: Ms. Plinkett - Ace's life coach at June 07, 2013 10:16 AM (XYSwB)

27 20 Remember Brian Dennehy in Firefox?

Posted by: kevlarchick at June 07, 2013 02:15 PM (+dlqq)

He played Russia.

Posted by: Typical filthy moron at June 07, 2013 10:16 AM (RD7QR)

28
in b4 Brainiac

Posted by: soothsayer, now with 20% less ruth at June 07, 2013 10:16 AM (Y4TdB)

29 So long as I can use that to have Kate Upton remove her clothes, I'd call it winning.

Posted by: sans_sheriff at June 07, 2013 10:17 AM (HgwiM)

30 Are You Ready for a Drone Controlled Only By Human Thought? That's kind of how it works already...

Posted by: Baraka Hussein I at June 07, 2013 10:17 AM (FcR7P)

31
We can already do this with typing, yes?

Posted by: soothsayer, now with 20% less ruth at June 07, 2013 10:17 AM (DlaLh)

32 It's nice to know the NSA won't have to get all sweaty when they have me killed.

Posted by: zsasz at June 07, 2013 10:17 AM (MMC8r)

33 This drone is no big deal. I still have my pair of X-Ray Spex from 1967.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 07, 2013 10:18 AM (+98Gb)

34 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 07, 2013 10:18 AM (/PCJa)

35 So eventually a President will be able to will a drone on target with the power of his mind? That's nice.

Posted by: troyriser at June 07, 2013 10:18 AM (vtiE6)

36 Corporal, why is the drone doing that? Sorry, sir, Private Jones just showed me a video of Kate Upton.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 07, 2013 10:18 AM (/PCJa)

37 How about a thought controlled dildo?

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at June 07, 2013 10:19 AM (V1ZIU)

38
MUST THINK IN RUSSIAN!
Posted by: Phinn

10 points to Gryffindor for the reference.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 07, 2013 10:19 AM (kdS6q)

39 I'd like to see a drone controlled by a dog's thoughts.

Posted by: Waldo at June 07, 2013 10:19 AM (dHIHO)

40 Yeah, lots of academic projects to help the severely disabled control external objects and computers -- using thought or the remaining muscles that still work. DoD and DARPA have been funding these projects for 30+ years. It's a hard problem.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at June 07, 2013 10:19 AM (ZPrif)

41 Though, of course, one can still foresee military uses down the line. The more intuitive a control system is, the more machinery has been made to adapt to man rather than man to machine, the better, I think. Thinking, concentrating: "Computer, display Ace's last phone call." Yep. No problems there.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 07, 2013 10:20 AM (ix+5k)

42 I'd like to see a drone controlled by a dog's thoughts.

It would be crashing into everyone's asses.

Posted by: EC at June 07, 2013 10:20 AM (GQ8sn)

43 Bluetooth cranial implant, been predicting it for years.

Posted by: Dr. SpongeBob Saget at June 07, 2013 10:20 AM (epxV4)

44 37 How about a thought controlled dildo? Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at June 07, 2013 02:19 PM (V1ZIU) ----------- Keep going.

Posted by: Helen Thomas at June 07, 2013 10:20 AM (Aif/5)

45 Are You Ready for a Drone Controlled Only By Human Thought?

You don't want a drone controlled by MY thoughts. The first thing it would do is fashion itself a kind of crude shiv and then go on a stabbing spree at the MSNBC offices.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at June 07, 2013 10:20 AM (4df7R)

46 In reality, this is way far off (for weaponization- for prosthetics maybe not). A glitch where your hand doesn't respond to input for 5 seconds is annoying, but highly unlikely to be life-threatening. A glitch where the drone you're "piloting with your MIND!!!" does not respond for 5 seconds could be catastrophic. It's also much more likely.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 07, 2013 10:20 AM (/PCJa)

47 NSA guys on with (my secret TV wife) Megyn are very good.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at June 07, 2013 10:21 AM (ZPrif)

48 How about a thought controlled dildo? You're asking for a friend, correct?

Posted by: rickb223 at June 07, 2013 10:22 AM (ix+5k)

49 Are You Ready for a Drone Controlled Only By Human Thought? Isn't this the definition of every obama voter/supporter? 50% of the American population are drones.

Posted by: Ms. Plinkett - Ace's life coach at June 07, 2013 10:22 AM (XYSwB)

50 Apparently, Nando's in Africa produces some wild ads: http://goo.gl/D916N h/t to Ace's priest friend.

Posted by: Waldo at June 07, 2013 10:22 AM (dHIHO)

51 I want one.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at June 07, 2013 10:22 AM (ytax8)

52 We can already do this with typing, yes?

Posted by: soothsayer, now with 20% less ruth at June 07, 2013 02:17 PM (DlaLh)

Sure watch:

pq2oje0349 5r1=4*&%(!+9 LKNJB +)($%^*$!_)54

Posted by: The jackhole at June 07, 2013 10:22 AM (nTgAI)

53 Are You Ready for a Drone Controlled Only By Human Thought? Sorry, Mr. Vice-President.

Posted by: zsasz at June 07, 2013 10:22 AM (MMC8r)

54 Are You Ready for a Drone Controlled Only By Human Thought? *shiftyeyes* No. *shiftyeyes*

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at June 07, 2013 10:23 AM (VtjlW)

55 I am still stunned that Obama basically blew off this entire NSA data gathering scandal with- hey you want to be safe or private, your choice....

Maybe he is a remote controlled drone?

Posted by: Marcus at June 07, 2013 10:23 AM (GGCsk)

56 I am absolutely ok with this. I completely trust the government and Bronco Bama to look after my best interest. Whatever tools this government needs to stop all the dissent.

Posted by: Yip at June 07, 2013 10:23 AM (/jHWN)

57 Clint Eastwood was great in this movie.

Posted by: toby928 at June 07, 2013 10:23 AM (evdj2)

58 It'll be embarrassing when my drone starts fantasizing about MILFS.

Posted by: eleven at June 07, 2013 10:23 AM (fsLdt)

59 pretty cool.. A boon to those confined to wheelchairs, etc. But combat is still probably a lot more fun using a stick and pedals and stuff.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at June 07, 2013 10:24 AM (f9c2L)

Isn't this the definition of every obama voter/supporter?

Can't be. This drone is controlled by human THOUGHT. Obama supporters wouldn't know how to think if you paid them. In fact paying them is part of why they don't think.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at June 07, 2013 10:24 AM (4df7R)

61 Clint Eastwood was great in this movie.

Really? I thought it was kinda boring and slow.

Posted by: EC at June 07, 2013 10:24 AM (GQ8sn)

62 How about a thought controlled dildo? LOL, I envisioned my army of dildo's coming at me at once. Would need a way of identifying which one... Just sayin' Who in their right mind doesn't have a back up?

Posted by: Ms. Plinkett - Ace's life coach at June 07, 2013 10:24 AM (XYSwB)

The Russkies have the Archer thingie which uses your eyes. The one on the F-35, I read, is having problems.

As someone who owns LMT, let me say, get your shit together!

Posted by: Beagle at June 07, 2013 10:24 AM (sOtz/)

64 Who do I need to talk to again?

Posted by: Richard Milhouse Nixon at June 07, 2013 10:24 AM (/jHWN)

65 But combat is still probably a lot more fun using a stick and pedals and stuff. So you used to bike-joust too?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 07, 2013 10:24 AM (/PCJa)

66 I am still stunned that Obama basically blew off this entire NSA data gathering scandal with- hey you want to be safe or private, your choice.... I'll take private for $2000 Alex.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 07, 2013 10:24 AM (ix+5k)

67 20 Remember Brian Dennehy in Firefox?

He was better in the prequel, playing Ernest Borgnine in Airwolf.

Posted by: wooga at June 07, 2013 10:24 AM (KZ/Tf)

68 Warg!!!

Posted by: Lizzy at June 07, 2013 10:25 AM (jvnuj)

69 Maybe he is a remote controlled drone?
Posted by: Marcus
..........
What? You didn't see Valerie Jarrett's hand up his ass? She's gone remote control now?

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at June 07, 2013 10:25 AM (f9c2L)

70
remember when HAWKEYE went for a ride in DRIVERLESS CAR on NOVA?

Posted by: soothsayerwing plover at June 07, 2013 10:25 AM (39q3n)

71 I move my penis with electroencephalographic sensors. I'll send you a pic.

Posted by: Anthony Weiner at June 07, 2013 10:25 AM (GGCsk)

72 I still have my pair of X-Ray Spex from 1967.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 07, 2013 02:18 PM (+98Gb)

And they were a total rip-off!

Admit it, you couldn't see through Mrs. Goldstein's clothes.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 07, 2013 10:25 AM (z4m16)

73 THIS is bullshit!! They're trying to take our jobs!

Posted by: Drone operators local #2458 at June 07, 2013 10:25 AM (/jHWN)

74 Even ruthless dictators eat at Nando's: http://goo.gl/H7smL I think this one got pulled...

Posted by: Waldo at June 07, 2013 10:25 AM (dHIHO)

75 Rigger's Rule

Posted by: Jean at June 07, 2013 10:26 AM (CMlD4)

76 I still have my pair of X-Ray Spex from 1967.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 07, 2013 02:18 PM (+98Gb)

And they were a total rip-off!

Admit it, you couldn't see through Mrs. Goldstein's clothes.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 07, 2013 02:25 PM (z4m16)

In all honesty, what did they really do? It's always been a mystery to me.

Posted by: EC at June 07, 2013 10:26 AM (GQ8sn)

77 We're gonna need a bigger tinfoil hat.

Posted by: Ms. Plinkett - Ace's life coach at June 07, 2013 10:26 AM (XYSwB)

78 How about a thought controlled dildo?

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at June 07, 2013 02:19 PM (V1ZIU)

You rang?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 07, 2013 10:27 AM (z4m16)

79 Fuck.

I already need an Iron Dome for my cubicle, now this.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at June 07, 2013 10:27 AM (ZKzrr)

80 I trust that Obama will only use the NSA power to fight evil people. Like terrorists. Or racists - like people who are so racist they'd vote against the first black president in American history. Or sexists - like people who would vote against a female candidate. Or bigots -- like people who insult the prophet Muhammad. Or violent extremists -- like gun nuts. I have faith that Obama will only use it against people he believes are true enemies who deserve it.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at June 07, 2013 10:27 AM (ZPrif)

81 I'd like to see a drone controlled by a dog's thoughts. SQUIRREL!!

Posted by: toby928 at June 07, 2013 10:27 AM (evdj2)

82 We have this technology which will obviously be militarized, but you can't put the 3d suit on and virtually bang Jenna Jameson from the safety of your couch yet. Where, as a nation, are our priorities?

Posted by: [/i][/b]akula_51 at June 07, 2013 10:27 AM (Vgn84)

83 MUST THINK IN RUSSIAN!

Posted by: Phinn at June 07, 2013 02:14 PM (oFH2D)

---------------------

"Fire rearward missile.

FIRE REARWARD MISSILE.

FIRE RE-!

oh."

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at June 07, 2013 10:27 AM (CJjw5)

84 Someday I could Fap just by thinking about it? Yeah, I'll have to quit work...

Posted by: CSMBigBird at June 07, 2013 10:27 AM (jsWA8)

85 How about an American government only guided by the equal rights granted by God - its basic Founding principles, and the guidance of the Constitution?

That might amaze me more.

Posted by: Freude, schöner Götterfunken at June 07, 2013 10:28 AM (KE42r)

86 Someday I could Fap just by thinking about it? Yeah, I'll have to quit work... You are not master of your domain.

Posted by: toby928 at June 07, 2013 10:28 AM (evdj2)

87 Honestly, can someone please miniaturize a Patriot Missile battery so I can peacefully enjoy my backyard?

Posted by: Marcus at June 07, 2013 10:28 AM (GGCsk)

88 76 In all honesty, what did they really do? It's always been a mystery to me. Posted by: EC at June 07, 2013 02:26 PM (GQ8sn) Sort of like the Post Office and DMV.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 07, 2013 10:28 AM (+98Gb)

89 So you used to bike-joust too?

Posted by: AllenG
.............
Indeed! With a playing card flapping in the spokes for effect!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at June 07, 2013 10:29 AM (f9c2L)

90 87 Honestly, can someone please miniaturize a Patriot Missile battery so I can peacefully enjoy my backyard? Posted by: Marcus at June 07, 2013 02:28 PM (GGCsk) Go long on Estes Rockets and Nerf...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 07, 2013 10:29 AM (+98Gb)

60 minutes had a segment on prosthetics last Sunday. They found the part of the brain that receives the signals for commands of limbs. The first human test subject was a former Wheel of Fortune contestant who developed a disease that made her a quadraplegic. They attached electrodes to her brain connected to posts in her skull and attached her to cables like the Keanu Reeves in the Matrix. She was able to control robotic arms by thought only.

This stuff will be like the six million dollar man in a couple of decades.

Posted by: polynikes at June 07, 2013 10:29 AM (m2CN7)

92 To hell with a frickin' toy helicopter. What happened to my junk?

Posted by: Some Rooster at June 07, 2013 10:29 AM (8ZskC)

93 56 I am absolutely ok with this. I completely trust the government and Bronco Bama to look after my best interest. Whatever tools this government needs to stop all the dissent.

Posted by: Yip at June 07, 2013 02:23 PM (/jHWN)

_________________

As long as it's for the children, I'm fine with it too.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at June 07, 2013 10:29 AM (HDgX3)

94
So if the person paying you to have sex isn't having sex with you, it's not prostitution?

So all that's needed to make prostitution legal is a third party payer?

Posted by: soothsayer at June 07, 2013 10:29 AM (NLH1M)

95 What the hell was THAT??

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at June 07, 2013 10:29 AM (f9c2L)

96 CTJ...you know the drill.

Posted by: [/i][/b]akula_51 at June 07, 2013 10:29 AM (Vgn84)

97 *ahem*

Posted by: the barrel at June 07, 2013 10:29 AM (evdj2)

98 The miniature helicopter, a very basic hobbyists' four-rotor toy, follows those mental commands. June 16th (9 days) til Father's Day!

Posted by: Ms. Plinkett - Ace's life coach at June 07, 2013 10:30 AM (XYSwB)

99 85 How about an American government only guided by the equal rights granted by God - its basic Founding principles, and the guidance of the Constitution? That might amaze me more. Posted by: Freude, schÃ¶ner GÃ¶tterfunken at June 07, 2013 02:28 PM (KE42r) ------------ Back to life, back to reality.

Posted by: En Vogue at June 07, 2013 10:30 AM (Aif/5)

100 The barrel. Get in it.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at June 07, 2013 10:30 AM (V1ZIU)

101 I'm out.

Posted by: kramer at June 07, 2013 10:30 AM (evdj2)

102 So all that's needed to make prostitution legal is a third party payer?

I just felt a disturbance in the force, like a million Obamabots deciding sexual services should be single-payer just like medical services.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at June 07, 2013 10:31 AM (ZKzrr)

103 Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at June 07, 2013 02:29 PM (f9c2L) *facepalm* barrel. Though this is the second time today someone has been bitten unexpectedly. I blame NSA spying.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 07, 2013 10:32 AM (/PCJa)

104 Imagine a barrel you could control with your mind. Well, that and Notepad.

Posted by: comatus at June 07, 2013 10:32 AM (JNUY4)

105 Tell the truth!
Tell a lie!
Tell the truth!
Tell a lie!

Posted by: reggie talking to president pinocchio about his 'automatic' drone at June 07, 2013 10:32 AM (9+vDU)

106

Zimmerman update:

Prosecution is trying to qualify a "audio expert" that will say it is Trayvon on the tape screaming.

Jeralyn Merritt at Talk Left (totally leftist, but a competent lawyer) initially thought this guy's opinion was a joke.

He's barely understandable over the phone.

Posted by: jwest at June 07, 2013 10:32 AM (u2a4R)

107 NSA.....I'm heading to Costco if you want to follow......

Anyone need anything?

Posted by: Tami[/i][/b][/u][/s] at June 07, 2013 10:32 AM (X6akg)

108 I just felt a disturbance in the force, like a million Obamabots deciding sexual services should be single-payer just like medical services. Posted by: HeatherRadishÂ™ needs a beer at June 07, 2013 02:31 PM (ZKzrr) Everyone gets a free Fluke-O'Hover.

Posted by: Ms. Plinkett - Ace's life coach at June 07, 2013 10:33 AM (XYSwB)

109 What needs to happen now is a ban of thought control fapping in the barrel.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at June 07, 2013 10:33 AM (V1ZIU)

110
I am still stunned that Obama basically blew off this entire NSA data gathering scandal with- hey you want to be safe or private, your choice....
Posted by: Marcus

How about Hugh Hewitt and the NRO crew taking the same stance today? The Ivys are coming out strongly for potential security first, Constitution never.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 07, 2013 10:33 AM (kdS6q)

111 > I already need an Iron Dome for my cubicle, now this. A remote controlled helo with a mounted Super Soaker full of cat piss to use on people who wear too much cologne/perfume and the office Dems. Seize the future!

Posted by: Lemmenkainen, Freelance Warlord at June 07, 2013 10:33 AM (ZWvOb)

112 I already need an Iron Dome for my cubicle, now this.

No problem!

Posted by: Those Crafty Jooos at June 07, 2013 10:34 AM (B/VB5)

113 87 Honestly, can someone please miniaturize a Patriot Missile battery so I can peacefully enjoy my backyard? With everything else they sell, I'm surprised Nerf doesn't have one. That said: build yourself a trebuchet. There all kinds of things you can throw with it.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 07, 2013 10:34 AM (/PCJa)

114 Anyone need anything? Posted by: Tami at June 07, 2013 02:32 PM (X6akg) Turkey sandwich and a smoothie? Oh, look! samples! woohoo! *I love Costco.

Posted by: Mainah at June 07, 2013 10:34 AM (659DL)

115 NSA.....I'm heading to Costco if you want to follow...... Anyone need anything? Posted by: Tami at June 07, 2013 02:32 PM (X6akg) It'll just show up in your basket, if so. No worries.

Posted by: Ms. Plinkett - Ace's life coach at June 07, 2013 10:34 AM (XYSwB)

116 So, with the proper, uh, prosthetic, I could lie on the couch and handle everything just by thinking about it? Posted by: Typical filthy moron at June 07, 2013 02:14 PM (RD7QR) As always, Big Bang Theory is way ahead of you. http://youtu.be/_k0bzMWFNls

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at June 07, 2013 10:34 AM (VtjlW)

117 107 NSA.....I'm heading to Costco if you want to follow...... Anyone need anything? Posted by: Tami at June 07, 2013 02:32 PM (X6akg) YES! A fan! It's fucking hot out here in the desert!

Posted by: Jerry Cromartie, cryptographer at the Utah Data Center at June 07, 2013 10:34 AM (V1ZIU)

118 Why's this drone smelling my balls, BO?

Posted by: president o'bumbles talking to BO about his drone at June 07, 2013 10:34 AM (9+vDU)

119 So you used to bike-joust too?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 07, 2013 02:24 PM (/PCJa)

That's a fun childhood memory. My older brother and me used to come home all bloody and bruised and scare hell out of our mom.

I thought pugil-stick training in the Army was awesome. That wasn't training. That was fun.

Posted by: troyriser at June 07, 2013 10:35 AM (vtiE6)

120 Posted by: reggie talking to president pinocchio about his 'automatic' drone at June 07, 2013 02:32 PM (9+vDU) Ouch. My sides. I'm just glad I had finished taking that drink before I read the comment.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 07, 2013 10:35 AM (/PCJa)

121

The latest from The Governor

Rick Perry ‏@GovernorPerry

Who knewÂ… in those Verizon adsÂ… Â…when the guy said, Â“can you hear me nowÂ”Â… Â…he was doing a mic check for the Obama Administration?

Posted by: The Chicken at June 07, 2013 10:35 AM (Pr6hk)

122 Zimmerman update: Prosecution is trying to qualify a "audio expert" that will say it is Trayvon on the tape screaming. Jeralyn Merritt at Talk Left (totally leftist, but a competent lawyer) initially thought this guy's opinion was a joke. He's barely understandable over the phone. Posted by: jwest at June 07, 2013 02:32 PM (u2a4R) legalinsurrection is keeping up with this if you want details

Posted by: Ms. Plinkett - Ace's life coach at June 07, 2013 10:36 AM (XYSwB)

123 As always, Big Bang Theory is way ahead of you.

http://youtu.be/_k0bzMWFNls

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at June 07, 2013 02:34 PM (VtjlW)

I don't even have to watch....I know exactly which episode it is.

Posted by: Tami[/i][/b][/u][/s] at June 07, 2013 10:36 AM (X6akg)

124 How about Hugh Hewitt and the NRO crew taking the same stance today? The Ivys are coming out strongly for potential security first, Constitution never.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 07, 2013 02:33 PM (kdS6q)

------- ------ ------- ------- -----

WSJ as well.

Posted by: Beagle at June 07, 2013 10:37 AM (sOtz/)

125 Welcome to Costco, I love you.

Posted by: coming sooner than we thought at June 07, 2013 10:37 AM (fsLdt)

126 "Are You Ready for a Drone Controlled Only By Human Thought?" Juiceboxers?

Posted by: T. at June 07, 2013 10:37 AM (s6XYG)

127 How about Hugh Hewitt and the NRO crew taking the same stance today? The Ivys are coming out strongly for potential security first, Constitution never.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 07, 2013 02:33 PM (kdS6q)

These guys are taking the opposite all or nothing stance. Why can't they express themselves that , yes security surveilliance is necessary but this goes over the line? Because its obvious to any half tard that this fishing expedition goes over the line and is a violation of the 4th amendment.

Posted by: polynikes at June 07, 2013 10:37 AM (m2CN7)

128 How about Hugh Hewitt and the NRO crew taking the same stance today? The Ivys are coming out strongly for potential security first, Constitution never. Wait. What?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 07, 2013 10:37 AM (/PCJa)

129 A boon to those confined to wheelchairs, etc. They have them already. Forward, backward, side to side, just based on thoughts. I expect super markets are gonna set 'em up next so the seniors can annoy the ever-loving hell out of me as they shop at a blistering one quarter mile per hour rate.

Posted by: Name Withheld Upon Request [/i] at June 07, 2013 10:37 AM (U2UQk)

130 See this key right here? The one by the monitor? If I turn that key your life is over.

Posted by: Jerry Cromartie, cryptographer at the Utah Data Center at June 07, 2013 10:38 AM (V1ZIU)

131 I don;t like this, the less death you have to really confront in war, the easier it is to wage war - war should be a savage scary destruction of life - it should be ugly and horrible to be a part of, it should scar you - the whole reason being to avoid it, make it a video game, who gives a shit?

Posted by: seaniep at June 07, 2013 10:38 AM (mHol2)

132 Hrm. Who wants to meet at the Rathskeller tonight to drink beer and polka? My friends stood me up to go to the casino.

...but the NSA already knew that, didn't you?

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at June 07, 2013 10:38 AM (ZKzrr)

133 How about Hugh Hewitt and the NRO crew taking the same stance today? The Ivys are coming out strongly for potential security first, Constitution never.

Yup, the establishment loves them some PRISM. The opposition is basically blog commenters and Rush Limbaugh so far. (Rush said "I knew this was a thing as soon as I heard a leftist try and blame it on Bush").

Posted by: Ian S. at June 07, 2013 10:39 AM (B/VB5)

134

none of you mentioned the professor's name -- Bin He, cousin of Ben Hur

Posted by: soothsayer at June 07, 2013 10:39 AM (ZgBZU)

135 132 the Rathskeller That was the name of one of the on-campus bars down here. Ahhh, such a sweet lack of memories.

Posted by: [/i][/b]akula_51 at June 07, 2013 10:40 AM (Vgn84)

136 Â“The mean annual G series over Spain shows a tendency to increase during the 1985-2010 period, with a significant linear trend of + 3.9 W m-2 [2.3% more] per decade.Â” This is the main conclusion of a study published in the magazine Â‘Global and Planetary ChangeÂ‘ by researchers from the University of Girona and the Federal Institute of Technology in Zurich (ETH, Switzerland).

Posted by: Henry Ford at June 07, 2013 10:40 AM (e8kgV)

137 These guys are taking the opposite all or nothing stance. Why can't they express themselves that , yes security surveilliance is necessary but this goes over the line? Because its obvious to any half tard that this fishing expedition goes over the line and is a violation of the 4th amendment. Because it is all or nothing. Either spying on US Citizens (by our own government) without a specific threat or looking for specific information is OK, or it's not. If it is, then everything else is just "haggling over price." If it's not, then this sh*t needs to stop. Note the problem here (and I think MWR would back me up on this) is *not* that the Government can get our phone records, internet activity, etc. The problem is that they can do it absent any specific reason. They can do it (to quote some lefty yesterday) "because they might become terrorists." The 4th Amendment exists for a reason. This is almost exactly (albeit updated for the 21 century) what the Founding Fathers were talking about when they wrote it.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 07, 2013 10:40 AM (/PCJa)

138
if Ben Hur had a sex change, his name would be...?

Posted by: soothsayer at June 07, 2013 10:40 AM (yhYn1)

139 How long before we're living in a real life Minority Report?

Posted by: Mainah at June 07, 2013 10:41 AM (659DL)

140 That said: build yourself a trebuchet. There all kinds of things you can throw with it. Dems?

Posted by: rickb223 at June 07, 2013 10:41 AM (ix+5k)

141 Mark Steyn has a typically terrific piece just now at the Corner. Link in my name.

Posted by: Ian S. at June 07, 2013 10:41 AM (B/VB5)

142 We love you and only want what's best for you Heather.

Posted by: NSA at June 07, 2013 10:42 AM (fsLdt)

143 My friends stood me up to go to the casino. Wise choice on their part, paleface.

Posted by: Injun Joe [/i] at June 07, 2013 10:42 AM (U2UQk)

144 Posted by: rickb223 at June 07, 2013 02:41 PM (ix+5k) All kinds of things. Though, whole bodies might be a bit big for one you could build in your back yard. You'd have to break them down first.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 07, 2013 10:42 AM (/PCJa)

145 What Microsoft has not promoted, however, is the fact that you will not be able to power on the console without first enabling the Kinect, designed to detect both heartbeats and eye movement. and positioning yourself in front of it. dailycaller The Xbox is dead to me.

Posted by: Ms. Plinkett - Ace's life coach at June 07, 2013 10:42 AM (XYSwB)

146 I'd like a trebuchet, a mace, and a big ass sword.

Posted by: Waldo at June 07, 2013 10:43 AM (dHIHO)

147 That said: build yourself a trebuchet. There all kinds of things you can throw with it. Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 07, 2013 02:34 PM (/PCJa) Like massive bundles of pot! -Mexican potapult builders.

Posted by: Mainah at June 07, 2013 10:43 AM (659DL)

148
Wait. What?
Posted by: AllenG

These people could be anywhere. They use the internet and they make calls. Keep that in mind as you read on.

My Townhall.com column and the Wall Street JournalÂ’s editorial join Andrew McCarthy in what will no doubt be a growing chorus of Â“wait a minute, we are in a warÂ” reactions to revelations of classified programs concerning NSA data collection and PRISM internet monitoring.

HughHewitt.com

Bolsheviks. In the shadows. Ready to snatch the brandy snifter from your very hands....

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 07, 2013 10:44 AM (kdS6q)

149

Drones controlled by cats. Think about it.

Posted by: Dr. Soona at June 07, 2013 10:44 AM (FLoWZ)

150 Steyn's major point, which I agree with a lot, in two sentences:

Because the formal, visible state has been neutered by political correctness, the dark, furtive shadow state has to expand massively to make, in secret, the judgment calls that can no longer be made in public. ThatÂ’s not an arrangement that is likely to end well.

Posted by: Ian S. at June 07, 2013 10:44 AM (B/VB5)

151 Posted by: Ms. Plinkett - Ace's life coach at June 07, 2013 02:42 PM (XYSwB) You do know you don't actually have to connect your X-Box to the internet, yes? Also- Private Company != US Government.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 07, 2013 10:44 AM (/PCJa)

152 Drones controlled by cats. Think about it.

No one will ever sleep again.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at June 07, 2013 10:45 AM (ZKzrr)

153 if Ben Hur had a sex change, his name would be...?

Posted by: soothsayer at June 07, 2013 02:40 PM (yhYn1)

----

Bein' Her

Posted by: fixerupper at June 07, 2013 10:45 AM (nELVU)

154 My Townhall.com column and the Wall Street JournalÂ’s editorial join Andrew McCarthy in what will no doubt be a growing chorus of Â“wait a minute, we are in a warÂ” reactions to revelations of classified programs concerning NSA data collection and PRISM internet monitoring. I knew Hugh Hewitt was a f*cking retard. I didn't realize it was that bad, though.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 07, 2013 10:46 AM (/PCJa)

155 Drones controlled by cats. Think about it.

Posted by: Dr. Soona at June 07, 2013 02:44 PM (FLoWZ)

Counter measures defense - string on end of stick.

Posted by: polynikes at June 07, 2013 10:46 AM (m2CN7)

156 You do know you don't actually have to connect your X-Box to the internet, yes? Also- Private Company != US Government. Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 07, 2013 02:44 PM (/PCJa) ahem Perhaps the feature most worryisome to privacy advocates is the requirement that the Xbox connect to the Internet at least once every 24 hours. Many critics have asserted that Microsoft will follow the lead of other Silicon Valley companies and use their console to gather data about its users, particularly through the Kinect, and collect it through the online connection users canÂ’t avoid.

Posted by: Ms. Plinkett - Ace's life coach at June 07, 2013 10:46 AM (XYSwB)

157
Bin He

Posted by: soothsayer at June 07, 2013 10:47 AM (yhYn1)

158 Drones controlled by cats. Think about it. Posted by: Dr. Soona at June 07, 2013 02:44 PM (FLoWZ) Counter measures defense - string on end of stick. Laser pointer. Weasel ball.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 07, 2013 10:47 AM (/PCJa)

159

@141

Steyn quoting NRO:

"There are people living in the United States right now, many, many of them, who are no less committed to jihad than the Tsarnaev brothers or Nidal Hassan."

Ah, there's your problem. A jihad threat doctrine might be helpful.

Posted by: Beagle at June 07, 2013 10:47 AM (sOtz/)

160 . The problem is that they can do it absent any specific reason. They can do it (to quote some lefty yesterday) "because they might become terrorists."

And further how can anyone assume that it won't be abused?

That was what pushed me into rage-mode yesterday after hearing Hewitt do his push-back dance; he tried to use local police as an analogy. Something along the lines of 'if local police commit abuses, it's discovered and it's corrected.'

Yeah, the NSA, the entity that is founded on, you know, secrecy, is going to publicize it's own abuses... *&$%$#@$%!

I suppose I can chalk this idiocy to the through-the-looking-glass era we've entered, but gottdamn! This nonchalant attitude of some on the Right is downright maddening.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at June 07, 2013 10:47 AM (ujux6)

161 Posted by: Ms. Plinkett - Ace's life coach at June 07, 2013 02:46 PM (XYSwB) Okay. That's not cool. But, still, Private Company != US Government.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 07, 2013 10:48 AM (/PCJa)

162 Back to the topic of gays and are they smart? I submit that they are not. I submit in evidence, two of them who apparently think its a good idea to piss off the cook, DURING the ordering process: -- Last week, the Colorado Attorney GeneralÂ’s office also filed a formal complaint. If the baker loses and continues to refuse service to gays and lesbians, he could be fined $500 per instance Â— and given up to a year in jail, his attorney claims. Phillips will stand in front of the stateÂ’s Civil Rights Commission in September. -- Baker, if you are reading this, outsource the baking to me. I'll be glad to bake it, in the most pristine hygienic setting I can devise.

Posted by: That Guy at June 07, 2013 10:48 AM (LYtpo)

163 Stephen Coonts - Flight of the Minotaur?

Posted by: AE at June 07, 2013 10:48 AM (BBwVy)

164
You do know you don't actually have to connect your X-Box to the internet, yes?
Posted by: AllenG

Actually, Microsoft acknowledged yesterday that the new X-Box will have to connect to the internet at least once a day to play games, even if you're playing offline.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 07, 2013 10:48 AM (kdS6q)

165 AllenG New Xbox by NSA partner Microsoft will watch you 24/7 http://tinyurl.com/mmm3y6k dailycaller

Posted by: Ms. Plinkett - Ace's life coach at June 07, 2013 10:48 AM (XYSwB)

166

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 07, 2013 02:40 PM (/PCJa)

What part of the 4th don't you understand. The government can spy on you as long as they obtain the proper warrant. It is not all or nothing no matter how many times you repeat it.

Posted by: polynikes at June 07, 2013 10:49 AM (m2CN7)

167 How about Hugh Hewitt and the NRO crew taking the same stance today? The Ivys are coming out strongly for potential security first, Constitution never.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 07, 2013 02:33 PM (kdS6q)

No point dying on this hill, my friend, but rest assured at some point soon NRO will actually post an angrily worded editorial, along with an appropriate quote from Gibbon or some dead Greek, decrying our precipitous decline, and then move onto something really important, such as the rumors swirling around the Vatican regarding Pope Francis' indegestion.

Buckley weeps.

Posted by: troyriser at June 07, 2013 10:49 AM (vtiE6)

168

Imagine Barney Frank, drunk and slurring his words...

That is what this "speech expert" sounds like in the Zimmerman hearing.

Posted by: jwest at June 07, 2013 10:49 AM (u2a4R)

169 But, still, Private Company != US Government.

What about private company in full cooperation with US government?

Posted by: EC at June 07, 2013 10:49 AM (GQ8sn)

170

I used to hear about stuff like this and think "wow, that's interesting, what a wonderful time to be alive."

Now I think "uh oh, how is our government going to use this against us?"

Fun times.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 07, 2013 10:49 AM (TOk1P)

171 I have such a drone, more like a pet. I call him Barry.

Posted by: George Soros at June 07, 2013 10:50 AM (h0/aL)

172 The government can spy on you as long as they obtain the proper warrant.

-----

I know this judge.....

Posted by: Eric Holder at June 07, 2013 10:50 AM (nELVU)

173

OT: I just read this on Drudge:

President Obama, whoÂ’s often mocked for an over-reliance on scripts, shifted uncomfortably smiling for several moments buying time. An aide sprinted out with a hard copy of the speech, tripping at one point, adding to the drama.

I am sure that I am not the only one here who has had to give a presentation and there is tech fail and you go ahead and march on. The key is that you actually KNOW your f'ing material and subject.

The most brilliant man in the world can't wing it because he doesn't know what he is talking about nor do I think he really cares. He won.

Just remember that GWB was the world's biggest dunce.

Posted by: cheri at June 07, 2013 10:50 AM (G+Wff)

174 Right or Wrong: Alamo administrator's husband 'found naked photos his wife sexted to another man and then forwarded them to their daughter and friends' http://goo.gl/Wh3Jb

Posted by: Waldo at June 07, 2013 10:52 AM (dHIHO)

175 I know this judge.....

Posted by: Eric Holder at June 07, 2013 02:50 PM (nELVU)

Yep, that's a problem. That is why we have oversight and the ability to impeach. Of course that is useless if there is no opposition party.

Posted by: polynikes at June 07, 2013 10:52 AM (m2CN7)

176 Actually, Microsoft acknowledged yesterday that the new X-Box will have to connect to the internet at least once a day to play games, even if you're playing offline. Must not want to sell many.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 07, 2013 10:52 AM (ix+5k)

177 The problem is that they can do it absent any specific reason. They can do it (to quote some lefty yesterday) "because they might become terrorists." And further how can anyone assume that it won't be abused? That was what pushed me into rage-mode yesterday after hearing Hewitt do his push-back dance; he tried to use local police as an analogy. Something along the lines of 'if local police commit abuses, it's discovered and it's corrected.' Yeah, the NSA, the entity that is founded on, you know, secrecy, is going to publicize it's own abuses... *$%$#@$%! I suppose I can chalk this idiocy to the through-the-looking-glass era we've entered, but gottdamn! This nonchalant attitude of some on the Right is downright maddening. Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 07, 2013 02:47 PM (ujux6) #1 it's already failed - See Boston bombers #2 as far as abuse - we are watching JEF, Holder, Pelosi, Jarrett, IRS, HLS, EPA abusing whomever they like with zero repercussions. you cannot trust this government

Posted by: Ms. Plinkett - Ace's life coach at June 07, 2013 10:52 AM (XYSwB)

178 President Obama, whoÂ’s often mocked for an over-reliance on scripts, shifted uncomfortably smiling for several moments buying time.

An example of a drone un-controlled by human thought.

Posted by: Cicero, DOCTOR of Jurisprudence and Shit at June 07, 2013 10:52 AM (8ZskC)

179 The government can spy on you as long as they obtain the proper warrant. It is not all or nothing no matter how many times you repeat it. But a warrant has to be specific. It cannot be "Yeah... we want all of it. On everybody. Because reasons." The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized. Emphasis mine. A warrant is a sign of "probable cause" more accurately "probable guilt." That "Oath or affirmation" part means that the Government (or its agent) is swearing that they believe you to be guilty of a particular crime, and they know exactly what stuff of yours will prove it. This. Is. Not. That.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 07, 2013 10:52 AM (/PCJa)

180

@166

What part of the 4th don't you understand. The government can spy on you as long as they obtain the proper warrant. It is not all or nothing no matter how many times you repeat it.

Posted by: polynikes at June 07, 2013 02:49 PM (m2CN7)

It's the "proper" part we're haggling about. A blanket warrant of the American people destroys the warrant preference completely.

Posted by: Beagle at June 07, 2013 10:52 AM (sOtz/)

181 Posted by: NSA at June 07, 2013 02:42 PM (fsLdt)

Here. Sift through these spreadsheets for me.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at June 07, 2013 10:53 AM (ZKzrr)

182 Are You Ready for a Drone Controlled Only By Human Thought?

If by drone you mean my penis, and if by human thought you mean boobs, that's already happening.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 07, 2013 10:53 AM (g5YAm)

183 What about private company in full cooperation with US government? That's a different issue- but the problem there is still the government, not the company. Yes, if Microsoft is sharing its data with the NSA, I have a problem with that- especially if it's sharing everything with them. But I haven't seen that MS is involved with this fiasco. Did I just miss it?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 07, 2013 10:55 AM (/PCJa)

184 "There are people living in the United States right now, many, many of them, who are no less committed to jihad than the Tsarnaev brothers or Nidal Hassan."

Ah, there's your problem. A jihad threat doctrine might be helpful.

Posted by: Beagle at June 07, 2013 02:47 PM (sOtz/)

----------------------------------------

If all of the eavesdropping on our privacy is because of muzzies in this country, then perhaps we need to do something about the muzzies in this country.

Posted by: Dr. Soona at June 07, 2013 10:55 AM (FLoWZ)

185 President Obama, whoÂ’s often mocked for an over-reliance on scripts, shifted uncomfortably smiling for several moments buying time. An example of a drone un-controlled by human thought. There's that delay Allen mentioned.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 07, 2013 10:55 AM (ix+5k)

186 Rhetorically; "Are you ready for a Johnson only controlled by a titillating woman ?"

Posted by: Marcus at June 07, 2013 10:56 AM (GGCsk)

187 Yes, if Microsoft is sharing its data with the NSA, I have a problem with that- especially if it's sharing everything with them. But I haven't seen that MS is involved with this fiasco. Did I just miss it? If it's going to MS, it's going over your ISP's server. So yeah, NSA has it.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 07, 2013 10:57 AM (ix+5k)

188 Yes, if Microsoft is sharing its data with the NSA, I have a problem with that- especially if it's sharing everything with them. But I haven't seen that MS is involved with this fiasco. Did I just miss it?

Microsoft is one of the companies listed on Drudge as a participant in handing over data to the NSA.

Posted by: EC at June 07, 2013 10:57 AM (GQ8sn)

189 Yes, if Microsoft is sharing its data with the NSA, I have a problem with that- especially if it's sharing everything with them. But I haven't seen that MS is involved with this fiasco. Did I just miss it? Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 07, 2013 02:55 PM (/PCJa) yeah, you missed it Google, for example, is Microsoft Hotmail, gmail, etc See image on top of drudge

Posted by: Ms. Plinkett - Ace's life coach at June 07, 2013 10:57 AM (XYSwB)

190 This. Is. Not. That.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 07, 2013 02:52 PM (/PCJa)

Either we are speaking past each other or you have chosen to ignore what I have written.

I agree that the NSA has violated the 4th with this expanded data collection. I do believe that they should be allowed to conduct expanded surveillance as intended in the Patriot Act, which is the same scope as what we have allowed for criminal investigations for decades.

Unless I'm reading you wrong, you want to abolish that ability also. That is all or nothing which I think is wrong headed. If that is the case, we just disagree.

Posted by: polynikes at June 07, 2013 10:58 AM (m2CN7)

191 "Are you ready for a Johnson only controlled by a titillating woman ?" It has been. For the last 37 years.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 07, 2013 10:58 AM (ix+5k)

192 I agree that the NSA has violated the 4th with this expanded data collection. I do believe that they should be allowed to conduct expanded surveillance as intended in the Patriot Act, which is the same scope as what we have allowed for criminal investigations for decades. It's not just the warrants, but PRISM. I have no problem at all with doing getting the info about specific suspected terrorists/terror-cells. Heck, I don't even care if the FBI uses the data to catch a kidnapper. If they have something specific, then get a warrant, then get the data from the carriers. However, just warehousing all of it because one day it *might* be useful? No. Absolutely not.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 07, 2013 11:02 AM (/PCJa)

193 Somebody has probably already asked this but don't most bureaucrats qualify as drones?

Posted by: maddogg at June 07, 2013 11:04 AM (OlN4e)

194 189 Rhetorically; "Are you ready for a Johnson only controlled by a titillating woman ?" Are you talking to me?

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at June 07, 2013 11:27 AM (BQCv6)

195 I can now fulfill my lifelong dream of world domination.

Posted by: Stephen Hawking at June 07, 2013 12:23 PM (+mvGT)

196 *waves hand* These are not the drones you're looking for.

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie ® at June 07, 2013 01:03 PM (1hM1d)

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