November 20, 2013

As Goes Oregon, So Goes The Country
— andy

Oregon has made a decent bit of healthcare news in the last few months, and, given the totality of it, should probably change its nickname to "The Cautionary Tale State".

First, the Oregon Obamacare exchange, "Cover Oregon", must've set some kind of record for its first couple of months in operation:

Oregon, a state that fully embraced the Affordable Care Act, is enduring one of the rockiest rollouts of President Back [sic] Obama's signature health care law, with an inoperative online exchange that has yet to enroll a single subscriber, requiring thousands to apply on paper instead.

Zero. Point. Zero. They really Blutarsky'd that one.

But hold on. What was this from the country's health insurance sales headquarters?


How can this be? The exchange has zero subscribers, but there are 56,000 new Oregonians with "health insurance" now?

Here's the health insurance salesman-in-chief:

HereÂ’s another thing that the Affordable Care Act does. In states where governors and legislatures have wisely allowed it [wouldn't be an Obama speech without a dig at the GOP --andy], the Affordable Care Act provides the opportunity for many Americans to get covered under Medicaid for the first time. So in Oregon, for example, thatÂ’s helped cut the number of uninsured people by 10 percent just in the last three weeks. Think about that. ThatÂ’s 56,000 more Americans who now have health care. (Applause.) That doesnÂ’t depend on a website. (emphasis added)

Yes, think about that. 56,000 more Americans now have health care. And what awesome health care it is:

The big headline from the Oregon Medicaid study is that paying for people's health care saves them from spending their own money (duh!) and marginally increases some self-reported psychological indicators (that is, stuff like "how do you feel?" which can be affected simply by the knowledge that someone's paying your bills) but does nothing whatsoever to improve the health of people on Medicaid.

Leftists, seeking any kind of spin, are now lauding the Medicaid program as the greatest anti-depression program since the Mousketeers. But is that really why the country is paying $7.5 trillion dollars on a program? To make people feel slightly better emotionally, without any tangible physical improvement?

So there you have it. 56,000 people were added to a program with no discernible benefit to health outcomes. Heckuva job, Oregon. Heckuva a job.

And this is what Obama touts as a success.
Oh, and did I mention that federal taxpayers are also $245 million in the hole for Oregon's non-functioning exchange?

Outstanding.

Posted by: andy at 10:11 AM | Comments (357)
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1 a state that fully embraced the Affordable Care Act, is enduring one of the rockiest rollouts of President Back [sic] Obama's signature health care law Cause. Effect.

Posted by: t-bird at November 20, 2013 10:12 AM (FcR7P)

2 I hear food stamp usage is also at an all-time high.  Bravo, Mr. President.  well done.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 20, 2013 10:12 AM (8ZskC)

3 Best of all. People applauded.

SMOD, you're our only hope.

Posted by: physics geek at November 20, 2013 10:13 AM (MT22W)

4 I have a question.... all these new people who are now on medicaid....did they not qualify before Obamacare?

Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at November 20, 2013 10:14 AM (bCEmE)

5 Those new Medicaid patients will be a lucrative source of organs for harvesting, since the providers will have to make up the losses somewhere.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 20, 2013 10:15 AM (8ZskC)

6

So you have insurance that no doctor will accept, so Winning?

Posted by: Chaos the other dark meat at November 20, 2013 10:16 AM (oDCMR)

7 Porklandia?

Posted by: K,tnx,bye at November 20, 2013 10:16 AM (RPDkq)

8 I am so glad Scott Walker told TFG to go pound sand. No state exchange here in the land of cheese. And for those libs/trolls, conservatives do have a heart. He has proposed to extend coverage for the folks who need to enroll until March 1, 2014. Scottie is looking mighty smart right now.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humantiarian at November 20, 2013 10:17 AM (HVff2)

9 ThatÂ’s 56,000 more Americans who now have health care.

Uh, no they don't.  They have medical insurance.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at November 20, 2013 10:17 AM (ZKzrr)

10 Families living under bridges are way up.  That's yet another metric of success for the Obama Administration!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 20, 2013 10:17 AM (8ZskC)

11 Is it an anti-depression program like the VA offers? Time will tell. Identifying psychological indicators... providing government administered cocktails... Creating psychos out of heroes... Yea, count me in on that one.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at November 20, 2013 10:17 AM (Djwm9)

12 Buy me a new plasma screen and I'll feel better.

Posted by: WalrusRex at November 20, 2013 10:18 AM (Hx5uv)

13 Oregon tried expanding Medicaid once before. It was a rousing success... Until it wasn't. You can only expand by narrowing coverage. A kid got a really rare disease that wasn't covered (trade off and all that), he started begging for money and eventually they passed a law that covered him. Then the system collapsed. (Not unexpectedly.) Make no mistake, Oregon will do this again.

Posted by: tsrblke PhD(c) (No really!) at November 20, 2013 10:18 AM (GaqMa)

14 Ahhh.. the hits just keep on comin', eh?

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 20, 2013 10:18 AM (f9c2L)

15 Cover Your Oregon.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at November 20, 2013 10:19 AM (ozktE)

16 I know I shouldn't be    shocked anymore by an    "administration" that thinks putting more people on government assistance is a GOOD thing.   But everytime I hear this shit I want to grab the nearest available leftist, box their ears, and scream, "WHY!!!?"

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/s][/b] at November 20, 2013 10:19 AM (4df7R)

17 I foresee a boom in community college medical courses (and back-alley medicine). Every family should have someone who knows stuff.

Posted by: t-bird at November 20, 2013 10:19 AM (FcR7P)

18 Health Insurance != Health Care Kinda like how Auto Insurance doesn't guarantee you a car.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 20, 2013 10:20 AM (ZPrif)

19

This is a success in the Obama World!

Posted by: rd at November 20, 2013 10:20 AM (D+lxs)

20 Yes, think about that. 56,000 more Americans now have health care. But what's the net total?

Posted by: t-bird at November 20, 2013 10:20 AM (FcR7P)

21 Look on the bright side, Andy. No doctor will be accepting Medicaid patients pretty soon. Then Obama and his pet Congress will force doctors to accept Medicaid. Then those doctors will quit practicing in the United States and/or move to other countries. No doctors = no reimbursements = no taxpayer dollars spent. THAT'S A SAVINGS OF INFINITY PERCENT.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at November 20, 2013 10:20 AM (CJjw5)

22 Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at November 20, 2013 02:17 PM (ZKzrr) They don't even have that. I don't know what to call Medicaid, but it's hardly care or hardly insurance.

Posted by: tsrblke PhD(c) (No really!) at November 20, 2013 10:21 AM (GaqMa)

23 Shit, a couple slugs of bourbon will make you feel a bit better and that only costs $20. $10 if you go with the cheap stuff.

Posted by: joncelli at November 20, 2013 10:21 AM (RD7QR)

24

Families living under bridges are way up. That's yet another metric of success for the Obama Administration!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 20, 2013 02:17 PM (8ZskC)

 

 

They only report these things if there is a Republican in office. 

 

Posted by: rd at November 20, 2013 10:22 AM (D+lxs)

25 THAT'S A SAVINGS OF INFINITY PERCENT.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at November 20, 2013 02:20 PM (CJjw5)



By Grabthar's Hammer........






....what a savings.




Posted by: Alexander Dane at November 20, 2013 10:22 AM (GQ8sn)

26 So, signing up 56,000 more people for welfare is a success now? Oh that's right, we're working toward the Cloward-Pivenization of the entire country. Goal: Get 100% of America on welfare. Then intentionally let the nation go broke. The sit back and smile as "the people" call for a socialist revolution. Good plan. Nice. I like it.

Posted by: zombie at November 20, 2013 10:22 AM (+cx5n)

27 Where's Dana Milbank to tell us if only the governor of Oregon has supported Obamacare it would be successf-oh, wait...

Posted by: Lizzy at November 20, 2013 10:22 AM (JRmiD)

28 What computer language is "=/=" the "not equal" sign. I see that a lot. I much prefer "!="

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 20, 2013 10:22 AM (ZPrif)

29 Zero. Point. Zero. They really Blutarsky'd that one. --- Added bit of trivia - Know which state they filmed it in?

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at November 20, 2013 10:23 AM (/Crba)

30 Every time I see one of those Cover Oregon commercials my rage disorder flares up, but someday I'll probably be able to sign up for insurance and then, after satisfying the deductible, it should help pay for some kind of sedative. So it's nice to be able to count on that.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at November 20, 2013 10:23 AM (+lsX1)

31 Nemmesis   is fully functional in all fifty states, and operating flawlessly.  Unlike some other things.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Death Capades - ObamaCare on Ice! Sponsored by the Outrage Outlet at November 20, 2013 10:23 AM (hLRSq)

32 This couldn't possibly mean that all of those hipsters are greedy healthcare free-riders, right?

Posted by: Lizzy at November 20, 2013 10:23 AM (JRmiD)

33 someday I'll probably be able to sign up for insurance and then, after satisfying the deductible, it should help pay for some kind of sedative. --- My advice to you is to start drinking heavily.

Posted by: Bluto Blutarsky, Pre-Med at November 20, 2013 10:24 AM (/Crba)

34

What computer language is "=/=" the "not equal" sign.


I see that a lot.


I much prefer "!="

 

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 20, 2013 02:22 PM (ZPrif)

 

 

I prefer "<>".

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/s][/b] at November 20, 2013 10:24 AM (4df7R)

35 I much prefer "!=" Posted by: Flatbush Joe
.........
I prefer "<>"

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 20, 2013 10:24 AM (f9c2L)

36 I bet Oregon is sending out those "you may want to consider euthanasia" letters hand over fist...

Posted by: Bless Your Cold Black Hearts at November 20, 2013 10:25 AM (kkbgQ)

37 lol

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 20, 2013 10:25 AM (f9c2L)

38 I'll tell you what I call success

Posted by: Reggie at November 20, 2013 10:25 AM (DrC22)

39 We haven't restricted our activity to the federal exchanges. Where's our medal?

Posted by: Koch Brothers Hackers and Assorted Delinquents at November 20, 2013 10:25 AM (Tb01R)

40 34 What computer language is "=/=" the "not equal" sign. I see that a lot. I much prefer "!=" Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 20, 2013 02:22 PM (ZPrif) I prefer "". --- Seconded. VB and SQL use "" as not equal. I haven't had to program in one that used "!=" that I can remember, but I'm hazy on how things worked in COBOL and Pascal these days.

Posted by: Bluto Blutarsky, Pre-Med at November 20, 2013 10:25 AM (/Crba)

41 Obamacare is going so bad the White House is trying to "rebrand" it to RepublicanCare.

Posted by: WannabeAnglican at November 20, 2013 10:25 AM (mm3C0)

42 Off, off, drunken sock

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at November 20, 2013 10:25 AM (/Crba)

43 Posted by: zombie at November 20, 2013 02:22 PM (+cx5n) This is the final goal. National guaranteed income. To an extent we have something similar with the safety hammock, but the lefties want it outright: here's your monthly dose of pure government cash. No programs, no rules, just straight up fucking cash. Because...human nature is non existent and that'll totally work!

Posted by: tsrblke PhD(c) (No really!) at November 20, 2013 10:26 AM (GaqMa)

44

BIL is 60 next year.  He is already making plans to retire if the Medicare reimbursements are actually cut.

 

Every year they pass a budget assuming the Fed Gov will cut Medicare reimbursements by ~25%.  Every year (so far) they later pass a bill rescinding those cuts.  If they do not rescind the cuts, most doctors will lose money on Medicare. 

Posted by: rd at November 20, 2013 10:26 AM (D+lxs)

45 No doctors = no reimbursements = no taxpayer dollars spent. THAT'S A SAVINGS OF INFINITY PERCENT. Posted by: Empire of Jeff at November 20, 2013 02:20 PM (CJjw5) http://tinyurl.com/pepebjo The only practical reason to worry about low compensation for doctors in the ACA exchanges is it may cause them to boycott exchange patients. If that happens, the solution is to reduce doctors' payment rates elsewhere in the system. If we ever reach the point where American doctors have been squeezed so badly that they start fleeing north of the border to get higher pay in Canada, then we've squeezed too hard. Until that happens, forget about Fantasy is fun. (link goes to Salon.)

Posted by: RWC at November 20, 2013 10:26 AM (fWAjv)

46 Shit, a couple slugs of bourbon will make you feel a bit better and that only costs $20. $10 if you go with the cheap stuff.

Posted by: joncelli at November 20, 2013 02:21 PM (RD7QR)

 

And it costs you nothing if    you take it off a dead hobo.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/s][/b] at November 20, 2013 10:26 AM (4df7R)

47 We just need 50,000 more Pakistani doctors with their phony-baloney fake diplomas. Why, yes, I did go to North Islamabad State Tech Medical School. I am a Sciencetician by training, as you can see on my diploma, which my parents in no way purchased. Now here are your leeches. Thank you, come again!

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 20, 2013 10:26 AM (ZPrif)

48 28 What computer language is "=/=" the "not equal" sign. I see that a lot. I much prefer "!=" Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 20, 2013 02:22 PM (ZPrif) Pixy++?

Posted by: Cajun Caret at November 20, 2013 10:26 AM (UZQM8)

49 Increased Medicaid enrollment is really the only part of ObamaCare that does anything for the involuntarily uninsured. All the rest of the pain was unnecessary. Think about that.

Posted by: HealthCare.gov at November 20, 2013 10:27 AM (QupBk)

50 Meh, you no how they do...fake it til' ya make it!


Posted by: dan a nj con formerly known as dana nj con at November 20, 2013 10:27 AM (wmU4G)

51 I prefer (*)(*)

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 20, 2013 10:27 AM (oJ5Fd)

52 COBOL is NOT =

Posted by: Jay in Ames at November 20, 2013 10:27 AM (i2Lsf)

53 Any state with a school mascots called the Ducks and the Beavers is a strange place. That and it rains a fucking lot.

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 20, 2013 10:27 AM (0FSuD)

54 dammit

Posted by: toby928© at November 20, 2013 10:27 AM (QupBk)

55

What computer language is "=/=" the "not equal" sign.

 

BTW, I'm pretty sure the use of "=/=" isn't actually any computer language,    but rather is a     way of    using   a computer keyboard to evoke an equals sign with a slash through it.  

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/s][/b] at November 20, 2013 10:27 AM (4df7R)

56

I haven't had to program in one that used "!=" that I can remember, but I'm hazy on how things worked in COBOL and Pascal these days.

 

Sorry, we're not interested in your application.

Posted by: Healthcare.gov at November 20, 2013 10:27 AM (NF2Bf)

57 For the first time in my life I agree with the President's statement"You didn't build that", but only I far as You = The GOP and that=the giant mess than Obamacare is making of America's healthcare system.

Posted by: losthusker at November 20, 2013 10:27 AM (QX/MV)

58 So we spent about $5 billion on the federal exchange plus the 14 states who built their own exchanges, and probably none of them work? Wow. That's some signature legislation you got there, Barky! Who knew obamacare was part of the much-hated stimulus package? Or was this one of those "shovel-ready" jobs which weren't so shovel-ready after all?

Posted by: elaine at November 20, 2013 10:28 AM (GNZ0/)

59

Wasn't there a time frame for the federal government subsidizing states that expand Medicaid? What happens when that subsidy goes away?

Posted by: Help me fellow rons and rettes at November 20, 2013 10:28 AM (Tb01R)

60 The expansion of Medicaid in my fair state is not what "Cover Oregon" was supposed to be about. Our "exchange" is not functioning. The 10% increase in insured is entirely Oregon Health Plan enrollees. http://www.oregonlive.com/health/index.ssf/2013/10/ oregon_has_cut_tally_of_those.html. Those are the poor (134% of poverty limit) and often very sick. The entire thing is a debacle. Governor Kitzhaber has not even announced if he is running for reelection, several weeks after his self-announced deadline to declare. *cue sad trombone*

Posted by: imp at November 20, 2013 10:28 AM (L9AnB)

61 They don't even have that. I don't know what to call Medicaid, but it's hardly care or hardly insurance.

I'd call it welfare...  It's a program that lets them get medical care (and drugs!  Can't forget the drugs!) paid for by a third party, if they can find someone willing to accept the third party's promise to reimburse them a tiny amount that may not even cover their costs in an untimely fashion.

So, like insurance, but extremely shitty insurance.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at November 20, 2013 10:28 AM (ZKzrr)

62

Fcuk Oregon, they won't let you pump your own gas and the speed limit is 55. Ever drive across eastern Oregon...desolate doesn't do it justice. Lot's of smelly hippies there too.  Rain, you got it, all the time.

 

Besides that, there are some nice places there.

Posted by: The Jackhole at November 20, 2013 10:28 AM (nTgAI)

63 49 Increased Medicaid enrollment is really the only part of ObamaCare that does anything for the involuntarily uninsured. All the rest of the pain was unnecessary. Think about that. --- Wow... the Democrats sucked Satan's cock and THIS is all they got out of it? Hammer and Vanilla Ice at least got a lot of money temporarily.

Posted by: Bill Hicks at November 20, 2013 10:28 AM (/Crba)

64 Manning, 25, wrote that he wants at least to be allowed to live as a woman and receive hormone replacement therapy (HRT). In his letter he said: "David E Coombs shall represent me in my effort to receive, at a minimum, the RLE (Real Life Experience) and HRT treatments by assisting me in matters related to exhausting my administrative remedies and if denied outright, in filing a writ before a court with jurisdiction." He wants to live as a woman. In a mens prison. Or, does he think he will be transfered to a womens prison. Anyone ever ask the women if they want to bunk with this guy? Usually, they do the RLF as a prelude to a sex change. That's where this is headed: they want taxpayers to pay for their sex changes. Blech. They will lie up and down and say they will not but just look at how ssm is being handled. If you don't buy into it by simply disagreeing, they will try to ruin you.

Posted by: Bless Your Cold Black Hearts at November 20, 2013 10:28 AM (kkbgQ)

65 And it costs you nothing if you take it off a dead hobo. Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at November 20, 2013 02:26 PM (4df7R) You can always tell when a moron lives in a rich area. My hobos only have Mad Dog 20/20

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 20, 2013 10:28 AM (0FSuD)

66 is from Pascal, yes? != is from C (also C++ and Java)

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 20, 2013 10:29 AM (ZPrif)

67 LEAVE BRITNEY, errr, OREGON ALONE!

Posted by: Jay in Ames at November 20, 2013 10:29 AM (i2Lsf)

68 That and it rains a fucking lot. Posted by: Nip Sip You wouldn't BELIEVE how much it rains!!! Like today in PDX. Rain rain rain. Never come to Oregon.

Posted by: imp at November 20, 2013 10:29 AM (L9AnB)

69 Woohoo, we spent something around 4.4 billion on state exchange websites and got a Medicaid expansion out of it.  Heckuva job, Kathleen. 

Posted by: no good deed at November 20, 2013 10:29 AM (k55Fc)

70 Feeeeellll-ings Whooooaaa Whooooaa Feeeeelingssssssss

Posted by: Orlandocon ette at November 20, 2013 10:29 AM (SldZ2)

71
I'm still waiting for the doctor slavery act that the libs are proposing to force doctors to treat people and in return lose money.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 20, 2013 10:29 AM (iGPSR)

72 I prefer (*)(*)


I like (_._)(_._)


(on a table)

Posted by: EC at November 20, 2013 10:29 AM (GQ8sn)

73 Where's Dana Milbank to tell us if only the governor of Oregon has supported Obamacare it would be successf-oh, wait...

Posted by: Lizzy at November 20, 2013 02:22 PM (JRmiD)

*



Doh! That's gonna leave a mark. Someone should tweet that.

Posted by: dan a nj con formerly known as dana nj con at November 20, 2013 10:30 AM (wmU4G)

74 Wasn't there a time frame for the federal government subsidizing states that expand Medicaid? What happens when that subsidy goes away?

Posted by: Help me fellow rons and rettes at November 20, 2013 02:28 PM (Tb01R)

 

State taxes go up to cover the shortfall.   Or   poor people get kicked out of hospitals and left to die in the street or something.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/s][/b] at November 20, 2013 10:30 AM (4df7R)

75 If you like your doctor.. well, too fucking bad!  None of these plans are going to include your doctor.  You will see a newly minted "M.D." from Pakistan and you will fucking like it.  Got it?

I swear.. I've been looking at provider lists lately and some of these plans are unbelievable.  In DuPage County Illinois, where about a million people live, this one plan had one dinky hospital that I never heard of!  Go to any other hospital and you are "out of network"!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 20, 2013 10:30 AM (f9c2L)

76 why couldn't these people be signed up for Medicaid before now? And if all that was needed to cover more people was adjustments to Medicaid why didn't they just do that and leave the rest of the health insurance system alone? I don't get all this gloating over new sign-ups to Medicaid. That's not what the sweeping overall of health insurance was supposed to be about, was it?

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at November 20, 2013 10:30 AM (RZ8pf)

77 This is the final goal.
National guaranteed income.

...followed closely by the national income limit.  Party apparatchiks exempted, as always.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at November 20, 2013 10:30 AM (ZKzrr)

78 Python uses "!=".

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 20, 2013 10:30 AM (ZPrif)

79 Any state with a school mascots called the Ducks and the Beavers is a strange place.


Pssst!  Ducks cheerleaders are second to none.


Posted by: EC at November 20, 2013 10:31 AM (GQ8sn)

80 Hey, wasn't Fifty Shades of Grey set in Oregon?



Posted by: EC at November 20, 2013 10:31 AM (GQ8sn)

81

How long before we start to see no-kidding, real-life happenings like in the game "Oregon Trail"?:

 

http://is.gd/2WeHvy

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX (@Teresa_Koch) at November 20, 2013 10:31 AM (PZ6/M)

82 Python uses both "!=" and "" actually.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 20, 2013 10:31 AM (ZPrif)

83 I 2nd EC!!!!

Posted by: Misanthropic Humantiarian at November 20, 2013 10:32 AM (HVff2)

84 Ah, doesn't show up. Hence the empty quotes - ""

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 20, 2013 10:32 AM (ZPrif)

85 Everything to Obama is a success. His whole life, every failure has been excused away. He is an early adapter to the self-esteem generation.

Posted by: AmishDude at November 20, 2013 10:32 AM (T0NGe)

86 Ah, "< >" (without a space) doesn't show up. Pixy eats it.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 20, 2013 10:33 AM (ZPrif)

87 He wants to live as a woman. In a mens prison.
Posted by: Bless Your Cold Black Hearts
.............
Not to worry.  He will definitely be living as a woman!

"Come here, bitch!"

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 20, 2013 10:33 AM (f9c2L)

88 so 59k out of a population of almost 4 million.

how much did it cost per sign up? 

Posted by: willow at November 20, 2013 10:33 AM (nqBYe)

89 My advice to you is to start drinking heavily.

I just racked 5 gallons of hard cider into the secondary last weekend. Should be ready to drink or trade for women by the time the riots start.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at November 20, 2013 10:33 AM (+lsX1)

90 Damn. that didn't work either try #2 < >

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 20, 2013 10:33 AM (ZPrif)

91

"To make people feel slightly better emotionally, without any tangible physical improvement?.."

 

This is what it all really boils down to.  This is not about realistically and materially helping people who don't have insurance.  It's emotional for the Libs.  They "feel" better about themselves after programs like these get enacted.  They're "doing something" doncha know.   It makes them feel superior too. 

Posted by: Kansas at November 20, 2013 10:33 AM (LA7Cm)

92 They still run TV ads touting the Cover Oregon web site. I chuckle every time.

Posted by: Woody at November 20, 2013 10:33 AM (07RHD)

93 How long before we start to see no-kidding, real-life happenings like in the game "Oregon Trail"?:

http://is.gd/2WeHvy

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX (@Teresa_Koch) at November 20, 2013 02:31 PM (PZ6/M)

 

 

"William has broken his leg.   Do you

 

A) Keep going

B) Stop and rest"

 

I can't remember - did Oregon Trail have an option

 

"C) Leave William's broke ass on the trail and keep going, because he's a whiny little bitch    with   weak ankles anyway."

 

Cuz they should have.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/s][/b] at November 20, 2013 10:33 AM (4df7R)

94 Try #4 "<"">"

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 20, 2013 10:33 AM (ZPrif)

95 Oh that's right, we're working toward the Cloward-Pivenization of the entire country. Goal: Get 100% of America on welfare. Then intentionally let the nation go broke. The sit back and smile as "the people" call for a socialist revolution.

Good plan. Nice. I like it.

Posted by: zombie at November 20, 2013 02:22 PM (+cx5n)

 

 

------------------------------------------------------

 

 

This really IS their plan.  And,  so far, it's working.  Ocare was designed to fail but still take the American economy with it.  Same as QE.   Same as extended unemployment, same as EBT cards, etc.  And with all of this, the crushing grind of regulations that have been foisted on the moneymakers  unchosen moneymakers of this country.   Add to that the 91 million people who have given up on  finding another job.

 

I'm surprised the economy  (it's bad, but it keeps rolling along)  has lasted as long as it has.

 

 

Posted by: Soona at November 20, 2013 10:33 AM (66ULQ)

96 So how does Medicaid work when it comes to state funding? For instance, if someone goes on Medicaid in Washington state but then moves to Texas, who's on the hook?

Posted by: Help me fellow rons and rettes at November 20, 2013 10:34 AM (Tb01R)

97 I'm still waiting for the doctor slavery act that the libs are proposing to force doctors to treat people and in return lose money.


It won't seem so bad when the doctors find out about the wonderful new Social Justice Pricing Plan that the regime has imposed on electronics stores.  Their dollar will go so much farther.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 20, 2013 10:34 AM (8ZskC)

98 So, Republicans have ruined Obamacare just by refusing to be on board with it. I wish that would work with the IRS.

Posted by: Meremortal, thinking of low info mofos at November 20, 2013 10:34 AM (1Y+hH)

99 I give up. I can't make the (Less than sign)(Greater than sign) symbols for "not equal" appear. Another reason I like "!=".

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 20, 2013 10:34 AM (ZPrif)

100 Isn't Oregon the state that will pay to have you put down after they deny your request for chemotherapy?

Why, yes, it is.

http://is.gd/excD15

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at November 20, 2013 10:34 AM (ZKzrr)

101

yeah, it's pouring rain here in Seattle today too. wink. wink. Just an awful day weather wise.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at November 20, 2013 10:35 AM (RZ8pf)

102 93 How long before we start to see no-kidding, real-life happenings like in the game "Oregon Trail"?:http://is.gd/2WeHvy Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX (@Teresa_Koch) at November 20, 2013 02:31 PM (PZ6/M) "William has broken his leg. Do you A) Keep going B) Stop and rest" I can't remember - did Oregon Trail have an option "C) Leave William's broke ass on the trail and keep going, because he's a whiny little bitch with weak ankles anyway." Cuz they should have. --- Depends on the version. I think you had an option on breaks but not on diseases like dysentary.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at November 20, 2013 10:35 AM (/Crba)

103 Posted by: Bless Your Cold Black Hearts at November 20, 2013 02:28 PM (kkbgQ) Item #4 on "tsr's healthcare prediction list" is in fact: Government mandating of insurance coverage for sex change operations.

Posted by: tsrblke PhD(c) (No really!) at November 20, 2013 10:35 AM (GaqMa)

104 @79 Duck Cheerleaders? Meh. I'll take these Trojans. http://tinyurl.com/meffzsk

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 20, 2013 10:35 AM (0FSuD)

105 I've become interested in a government job....any special requirements for death panel member?

Posted by: BignJames at November 20, 2013 10:35 AM (HtUkt)

106 32  I think the archaic term you are looking for is "burden on society". My musician sibling in Portland, OR and her cohort find that phrase particularly distasteful.

Posted by: losthusker at November 20, 2013 10:35 AM (QX/MV)

107 try #5 /< />

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 20, 2013 10:35 AM (ZPrif)

108 It won't seem so bad when the doctors find out about the wonderful new Social Justice Pricing Plan that the regime has imposed on electronics stores. Their dollar will go so much farther. --- Que? We talking ObamaPhones or something else?

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at November 20, 2013 10:35 AM (/Crba)

109 Duck Cheerleaders? Meh.



Not sure if serious.


Posted by: EC at November 20, 2013 10:36 AM (GQ8sn)

110
I'm surprised the economy (it's bad, but it keeps rolling along) has lasted as long as it has.

Posted by: Soona at November 20, 2013 02:33 PM (66ULQ)


Inertia. It takes a long time to kill an economy as big as ours but they will try with all their might.

Posted by: joncelli at November 20, 2013 10:36 AM (RD7QR)

111 104 @79 Duck Cheerleaders? Meh. I'll take these Trojans. --- "What are you looking for?" "A pack of Trojans!" *snaps finger* "I just ran out..."

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at November 20, 2013 10:36 AM (/Crba)

112 Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at November 20, 2013 02:30 PM (4df7R) I do wonder if the states are doing lax Medicaid eligabilty checks in an attempt uh...procure more federal funds. In 3 years we'll see state audits like crazy and sudden purging of the rolls.

Posted by: tsrblke PhD(c) (No really!) at November 20, 2013 10:36 AM (GaqMa)

113 So how does Medicaid work when it comes to state funding? For instance, if someone goes on Medicaid in Washington state but then moves to Texas, who's on the hook? Posted by: Help me fellow rons and rettes
.........
Each state has different qualifications, I believe.  But, Obamacare may have erased those differences.  Some states did not take the Medicaid expansion, because it will cost the states more after the first couple years.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 20, 2013 10:36 AM (f9c2L)

114 To an extent we have something similar with the safety hammock, but the lefties want it outright: here's your monthly dose of pure government cash. No programs, no rules, just straight up fucking cash. When I was in Montreal, Canada there was a big ice storm. It covered everything in a layer of ice. Power lines, branches, even high tension power line towers crumpled. It was cold and I went without power for a few days. Anyway, not a big deal to me and I did just fine. Then all the Canadians started agitating for the government to pay ALL of them money. For what? Having to deal with Canadian weather? Yup, the government handed every person 200CAD. Prove you're a citizen, here's your check. It was alien to me.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b] at November 20, 2013 10:37 AM (sByIH)

115 Feds are funding Medicaid expansion for 3 years. Then the states are on the hook.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 20, 2013 10:37 AM (ZPrif)

116 50 shades was set in Washington. And no I did not read it. I just know that it was because it was a fanfic of Twilight, which was also set in Washington. Because we love sparkly vampires here in Washington. And bondage.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at November 20, 2013 10:37 AM (RZ8pf)

117 Some states did not take the Medicaid expansion, because it will cost the states more after the first couple years.


Any governor who could count to three realized this.


Posted by: EC at November 20, 2013 10:37 AM (GQ8sn)

118 There has been a dearth of trolls around here lately. Remedial classes?

Posted by: Meremortal, thinking of low info mofos at November 20, 2013 10:38 AM (1Y+hH)

119 Those damn Oregon Republicans, screwing it all up for everyone!

Posted by: blaster at November 20, 2013 10:38 AM (W6bkf)

120 Indiana joins Maryland, Massachusetts, Minnesota, New York, Rhode Island and Vermont in saying they will not go along with the Obama administrationÂ’s request.

http://is.gd/l88iQO

...only one of these states is going to be called racist.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at November 20, 2013 10:38 AM (ZKzrr)

121 We talking ObamaPhones or something else? Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at November 20, 2013 02:35 PM (/Crba) Venezuela

Posted by: RWC at November 20, 2013 10:38 AM (fWAjv)

122 Fcuk Oregon, they won't let you pump your own gas and the speed limit is 55. Ever drive across eastern Oregon...desolate doesn't do it justice. Lot's of smelly hippies there too. Rain, you got it, all the time. There is no reciprocity for CCW licenses there either.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b] at November 20, 2013 10:38 AM (sByIH)

123 I'm surprised the economy (it's bad, but it keeps rolling along) has lasted as long as it has. Ben can pump. See Ben pump. Go Ben, Go!

Posted by: Orlandocon ette at November 20, 2013 10:38 AM (SldZ2)

124 "ThatÂ’s 56,000 more Americans who now have health care."

No, that's 56,000 more with INSURANCE.

And those of us who pay attention to the studies know those on Medicaid have a worse health outlook than those with no insurance.

Posted by: John T at November 20, 2013 10:39 AM (8gAxo)

125 Mooch lets me grow Oregon in the garden.

Posted by: Choo Choo at November 20, 2013 10:39 AM (fWAjv)

126 O/T but part and parcel of the Left's goal of using healthcare issues to implement their social agenda: Senate Democrats introduce a bill to strike down state abortions laws.

Per the Weekly Standard, "The Women's Health Protection Act, introduced by Democratic Connecticut senator Richard Blumenthal, would even invalidate a law used to convict Philadelphia abortionist Kermit Gosnell earlier this year, and it could potentially force taxpayers across the country to directly fund elective abortions for Medicaid recipients."


Posted by: Lizzy at November 20, 2013 10:39 AM (JRmiD)

127 "C) Leave William's broke ass on the trail and keep going, because he's a whiny little bitch with weak ankles anyway." Cuz they should have. Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at November 20, 2013 02:33 PM (4df7R) Or D) Go hunting even though you already have 50 pounds of meat already. Squirrel, squirrel,...buffalo!! Get it!!!

Posted by: Mainah at November 20, 2013 10:40 AM (659DL)

128 118 There has been a dearth of trolls around here lately. Remedial classes? Posted by: Meremortal, thinking of low info mofos at November 20, 2013 02:38 PM (1Y+hH) Navigators

Posted by: RWC at November 20, 2013 10:40 AM (fWAjv)

129 71 I'm still waiting for the doctor slavery act that the libs are proposing to force doctors to treat people and in return lose money. Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 20, 2013 02:29 PM Me, too. Though I think they'll rebrand that as the Doctor Draft or something even catchier. Maybe the "you didn't earn that medical degree on your own" act or something...

Posted by: elaine at November 20, 2013 10:40 AM (GNZ0/)

130

Funny thing about those Medicaid numbers...

 

I did some digging, overall Medicaid represents about 25% of state expenditures.  That's total expenditures for all states. 

 

If you look at individual states however, Oregon's Medicaid expenditures are about 11-12%.  Significantly below the national average.

 

Why?  I don't know, but the state is an outlier, regarding Medicaid numbers.  Missouri has the highest pct., at 35% in 2112, and Wyoming the lowest at just over 9%.

 

Something to keep in mind, as they play with these numbers. 

Posted by: BurtTC at November 20, 2013 10:41 AM (TOk1P)

131 Except that 150,000 people that used to have health insurance, real health insurance that they paid for lost it.

NET FOR OREGON, 100,000 FEWER PEOPLE HAVE HEALTH INSURANCE.

Posted by: King Barky the Liar at November 20, 2013 10:41 AM (WGm5T)

132 126 O/T but part and parcel of the Left's goal of using healthcare issues to implement their social agenda: Senate Democrats introduce a bill to strike down state abortions laws.

Per the Weekly Standard, "The Women's Health Protection Act, introduced by Democratic Connecticut
senator Richard Blumenthal, would even invalidate a law used to convict
Philadelphia abortionist Kermit Gosnell earlier this year, and it could
potentially force taxpayers across the country to directly fund elective
abortions for Medicaid recipients."


Posted by: Lizzy at November 20, 2013 02:39 PM (JRmiD)


Whoa, you could knock me over with a feather!

Posted by: Bart Stupak at November 20, 2013 10:41 AM (RD7QR)

133 That Portlandia show is a real-life documentary, its NOT fiction. The last mayor was an unindicted perderast who admitted to swapping spit with an underage "boy' in a city hall mens room. Libs have run the state government for the last 25 years. This is where God's other Son said Iran was a "tiny country," and his margin of victory was something like 70:25 in the last two elections. There is a reason we refer to this hell-hole as Berkley North and Little Havana on the Willamette and the Occupied NW Territories. Dear God, I have to get out of this place.

Posted by: C Wesley Bryant at November 20, 2013 10:41 AM (/zpJx)

134 >
I'll take these Trojans.<



I think all the USC cheerleaders have to redshirt their freshman year so the staff plastic surgeons can perfect them.  Works for me.

Posted by: Muad'dib at November 20, 2013 10:41 AM (KjlbF)

135 120 Indiana joins Maryland, Massachusetts, Minnesota, New York, Rhode Island and Vermont in saying they will not go along with the Obama administrationÂ’s request. http://is.gd/l88iQO ...only one of these states is going to be called racist. --- Too bad no one is going to point fingers at the whitest state in the room.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at November 20, 2013 10:41 AM (/Crba)

136 They'll use the doc shortage to call for amnesty. All those illegal doctors and nurses hiding in the shadows!

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 20, 2013 10:41 AM (ZPrif)

137 Apropos of nothing, I liked Portland the one time I went there on business back in the very early 90's. I seemed a clean and prosperous place.

Posted by: toby928© at November 20, 2013 10:42 AM (QupBk)

138 O/T Who would ever image an impeached president and disbarred convicted libeler would be honored with a medal. This country is going to hell.

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 20, 2013 10:42 AM (0FSuD)

139 Though I think they'll rebrand that as the Doctor Draft or something even catchier.

The Guaranteed Appointment Act of 2014.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at November 20, 2013 10:42 AM (ZKzrr)

140

I'm still waiting for the doctor slavery act that the libs are proposing to force doctors to treat people and in return lose money.

 

On occasion, I smack a few baby pandas around in the comment section of  my local rag.  On another 'shitty Canadian healthcare' story I was advocating that we should be using the Obamacare fucktardery as an opportunity to entice American doctors to come north of the border (sorry about that....but, you know, at least it would keep the medical tourism close by!).

 

Anyway, direct quote from local fucktard:

 

"Doctors don't need to make over $1million a year to give proper and excellent Health Care. And they definitely don't need to be driving extremely expensive cars or SUV's."

 

I really don't understand why SMOD has forsaken us.  We're so deserving.

Posted by: Lurking Canuck at November 20, 2013 10:42 AM (BrQrN)

141 Doctors Without Borders Degrees i just know I am going in the barrel

Posted by: RWC at November 20, 2013 10:42 AM (fWAjv)

142 Ehh. Could have been worse.

Posted by: RWC at November 20, 2013 10:43 AM (fWAjv)

143 Use the letter s instead of "strike".


Posted by: EC at November 20, 2013 10:43 AM (GQ8sn)

144 Oregon is the only state in the union where physician-assisted suicide is legal.  I wonder if they cover that?  Maybe they will push people into plans that only cover that.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at November 20, 2013 10:43 AM (vg8iE)

145 @135 You left Washington State off the list not going for it.

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 20, 2013 10:43 AM (0FSuD)

146 There has been a dearth of trolls around here lately.

Remedial classes?

Posted by: Meremortal

I think they're trying the swarm tactic on Breitbart, NRO, and WashTimes.

There are some on Breitbart that will pull other commenters into an argument for hours. I suppose they could be sharing accounts for shits and giggles, but gotdamn, they really like being spiteful jackasses.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at November 20, 2013 10:43 AM (KVY+w)

147 71
I'm still waiting for the doctor slavery act that the libs are proposing to force doctors to treat people and in return lose money.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 20, 2013 02:29 PM
-------------------------
I've already named it: "The Doctor Empowerment and Freedom Act."

Posted by: King Barky the Liar at November 20, 2013 10:44 AM (WGm5T)

148 I did some digging, overall Medicaid represents about 25% of state expenditures. That's total expenditures for all states. If you look at individual states however, Oregon's Medicaid expenditures are about 11-12%. Significantly below the national average. Why? Do they spend a lot of money overall? That would skew the percentage.

Posted by: toby928© at November 20, 2013 10:44 AM (QupBk)

149 Though I think they'll rebrand that as the Doctor Draft or something even catchier.


The From Each According To His Abilities Act.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 20, 2013 10:45 AM (8ZskC)

150

Per the Weekly Standard, "The Women's Health Protection Act, introduced by Democratic Connecticut

senator Richard Blumenthal, would even invalidate a law used to convict

Philadelphia abortionist Kermit Gosnell earlier this year, and it could

potentially force taxpayers across the country to directly fund elective

abortions for Medicaid recipients."

 

 

FFS.

 

Why am I not surprised such a bill would be introduced by  Richard "Skin Suit" Blumenthal, inveterate liar   and creep?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/s][/b] at November 20, 2013 10:45 AM (4df7R)

151
From an Orrin Hatch press release:

In 2011 Medicaid spent an average of $6,982 per beneficiary. However, the average spending per child was only $2,851, while the program spent $17,958 per person with a disability and $15,931 per elderly person.

So, 56000 x 7000 = $392,000,000 per year.

And that's just for Oregon and just as of now.  Imagine the total nationwide a year from now.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 20, 2013 10:45 AM (kdS6q)

152 Thanks EC strike

Posted by: RWC at November 20, 2013 10:45 AM (fWAjv)

153 @138 - Not to mention a bloated race baiter.  All Oprah's money and she's still fat.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at November 20, 2013 10:46 AM (vg8iE)

154 Anyone else catch this tidbit from the Oregon Live article?

Another change likely to boost enrollment: under new rules mandated by the federal health law, savings or property is no longer a bar to membership; application is now based strictly on income for the month in which someone applies.

All you need is low income for that month, and bam- Medicaid-funded subsidies.  Doesn't matter if you have a million in the bank or make $75,000 a year in a seasonal job.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at November 20, 2013 10:46 AM (SY2Kh)

155 I'd call it welfare... It's a program that lets them get medical care (and drugs! Can't forget the drugs!) paid for by a third party,

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at November 20, 2013 02:28 PM (ZKzrr)



Hell yeah. I know somebody that just goes from doctor to doctor complaining about pain just so they can keep him stocked up on percoset, and he eats a weeks worth in 2 days. He goes from hospital to hospital, doctor to doctor gaming the system, and of course he isn't paying a fucking dime. He found a new doc who doubled his frigging already bullshit dose.

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Div at November 20, 2013 10:46 AM (FMbng)

156 Too bad no one is going to point fingers at the whitest state in the room.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at November 20, 2013 02:41 PM (/Crba)

 

 

If you mean Vermont, you're failing to take into account the 2:1 cow to human ratio.   There're    a lot of    multihued guernseys in the Green Mountain State.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/s][/b] at November 20, 2013 10:46 AM (4df7R)

157 Keep  Oregon Wired. 

Posted by: dsylexic electrician at November 20, 2013 10:46 AM (m2CN7)

158 That's 56,000 more Oregonians that get to wait for hours in line at the ER for treatment.

Posted by: Roy at November 20, 2013 10:46 AM (VndSC)

159 If you look at individual states however, Oregon's Medicaid expenditures are about 11-12%. Significantly below the national average. Here's your answer. Oregon census. 2% Vs 13% nation. Black or African American alone, percent definition and source info Black or African American alone, percent, 2012 (a)2.0% Nation 13.1%

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 20, 2013 10:46 AM (0FSuD)

160 These numbers are too much to follow.  Obama says this is good news.  He's cool cuz he's like Will Smith n stuff.  So, I'm good with that. 

Posted by: Hipster Douche LIV at November 20, 2013 10:47 AM (W2qJe)

161 153 @138 - Not to mention a bloated race baiter. All Oprah's money and she's still fat.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at November 20, 2013 02:46 PM (vg8iE)


She was going to get her stomach stapled but she rolled over in the surgical staff. Quite embarrassing.

Posted by: joncelli at November 20, 2013 10:47 AM (RD7QR)

162 72 I prefer (*)(*) I like (_._)(_._) (on a table) Posted by: EC at November 20, 2013 02:29 PM (GQ8sn) (.Y.) Amateurs...

Posted by: Cajun Caret at November 20, 2013 10:47 AM (UZQM8)

163 Here's your answer.

Oregon census. 2% Vs 13% nation.

Black or African American alone, percent definition and source info Black or African American alone, percent, 2012 (a)2.0% Nation 13.1%

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 20, 2013 02:46 PM (0FSuD)



Oregon is racist.



Posted by: EC at November 20, 2013 10:48 AM (GQ8sn)

164 All you need is low income for that month, and bam- Medicaid-funded subsidies. Doesn't matter if you have a million in the bank or make $75,000 a year in a seasonal job.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at November 20, 2013 02:46 PM (SY2Kh)

 

All you need to do is SAY you had a low income that  month.   It's not like they're going to check.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/s][/b] at November 20, 2013 10:48 AM (4df7R)

165 (i)(i) Tassles

Posted by: toby928© at November 20, 2013 10:49 AM (QupBk)

166 Oregon is racist.

The mandatory flannel shirt requirement discriminates against African-Americans.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at November 20, 2013 10:49 AM (SY2Kh)

167

148 -

 

The report I'm looking at probably has overall budgets, but the Medicaid portion  shows $808 million general fund for Oregon, $3.75 BILLION for Washington!  That's a huge difference.  Just scanning the different states, I would like to see a per capita break-down, but Oregon looks very low.   

Posted by: BurtTC at November 20, 2013 10:50 AM (TOk1P)

168 A new and independent analysis of ObamaCare warns of a ticking time bomb, predicting a second wave of 50 million to 100 million insurance policy cancellations next fall -- right before the mid-term elections. The next round of cancellations and premium hikes is expected to hit employees, particularly of small businesses. While the administration has tried to downplay the cancellation notices hitting policyholders on the individual market by noting they represent a relatively small fraction of the population, the swath of people who will be affected by the shake-up in employer-sponsored coverage will be much broader. BOHICA

Posted by: Cajun Caret at November 20, 2013 10:50 AM (UZQM8)

169 All you need to do is SAY you had a low income that month. It's not like they're going to check.

How dare you suggest the existence of unchecked fraud in a government entitlement program.  You monster.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at November 20, 2013 10:51 AM (SY2Kh)

170
Oregon is racist.
Posted by: EC



Lattes discriminate against lactose intolerant Asians and Native Americans...

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 20, 2013 10:51 AM (kdS6q)

171 The mandatory flannel shirt requirement discriminates against African-Americans.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at November 20, 2013 02:49 PM (SY2Kh)

 

I have seen black men in flannel shirts, and I must say -- YUM.   Especially    the darker their   skin.  

 

I'm not sayin'   it's for everybody,   I'm just sayin'.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/s][/b] at November 20, 2013 10:51 AM (4df7R)

172 Each state has different qualifications, I believe. But, Obamacare may have erased those differences. Some states did not take the Medicaid expansion, because it will cost the states more after the first couple years.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 20, 2013 02:36 PM (f9c2L)

 

 

------------------------------------------------

 

 

I think the states that set up federal exchanges have to toe the line with  Ocare.  Oklahoma didn't set up an exchange  just for the reason that we could  appropriate money and set up medicaid independently.

 

It's saving us a buttload of money.

Posted by: Soona at November 20, 2013 10:51 AM (66ULQ)

173 Ah yes.   Salem , Oregon.   Love that town.   The history.  Even the dark days of witch burning and all.   Very interesting.   Hope to visit again.   God willing. 

Posted by: Joey Biden at November 20, 2013 10:51 AM (m2CN7)

174 While the administration has tried to downplay the cancellation notices hitting policyholders on the individual market by noting they represent a relatively small fraction of the population, the swath of people who will be affected by the shake-up in employer-sponsored coverage will be much broader.


I'm ready for my letter.


Posted by: EC at November 20, 2013 10:51 AM (GQ8sn)

175 Smart Military Blog making emoticon boobehs and ass... sigh hmmm, now how do I do that...

Posted by: RWC at November 20, 2013 10:51 AM (fWAjv)

176 Looks like Arec Bardwin is out.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 20, 2013 10:51 AM (ZPrif)

177 Oregon is racist. Posted by: EC at November 20, 2013 02:48 PM (GQ8sn) No, we love them in football uniforms.

Posted by: Oregon Democrats at November 20, 2013 10:52 AM (0FSuD)

178 How dare you suggest the existence of unchecked fraud in a government entitlement program. You monster.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at November 20, 2013 02:51 PM (SY2Kh)

 

 

I'm just saying what the Navigator told me!

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/s][/b] at November 20, 2013 10:52 AM (4df7R)

179 Apparently I type in white font...

Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at November 20, 2013 10:52 AM (bCEmE)

180

159 -

 

Yikes!  I have to admit, I hadn't even thought of that.  Sad, isn't it?

Posted by: BurtTC at November 20, 2013 10:52 AM (TOk1P)

181 In military parlance this is known as a Pyrrhic victory.

Posted by: Vic at November 20, 2013 10:52 AM (FTQyq)

182 I know somebody that just goes from doctor to doctor complaining about pain just so they can keep him stocked up on percoset, and he eats a weeks worth in 2 days.

I have a friend who used to date a woman who worked at Rite-Aid and would buy narcotic pills off Medicaid patients to re-sell in bars. Apparently trading your free shit for cash is popular.

(He turned her in eventually.)

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at November 20, 2013 10:53 AM (ZKzrr)

183 Looks like Arec Bardwin is out.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 20, 2013 02:51 PM (ZPrif)



LOL!



Or should I say...




ROR!



Posted by: EC at November 20, 2013 10:53 AM (GQ8sn)

184 Oh Hey I Know: The Doctor Freedom and Fairness Act.

Posted by: King Barky the Liar at November 20, 2013 10:53 AM (WGm5T)

185 Oregon, your hoop-di-doo and ado Delta Tau name is "Massive Fail". Jay Carney-Barker will be reaching out to you. And that's a threat.

Posted by: President For Life Obama at November 20, 2013 10:53 AM (F58x4)

186

A new and independent analysis of ObamaCare warns of a ticking time bomb, predicting a second wave of 50 million to 100 million insurance policy cancellations next fall -- right before the mid-term elections.

 



The next round of cancellations and premium hikes is expected to hit employees, particularly of small businesses. While the administration has tried to downplay the cancellation notices hitting policyholders on the individual market by noting they represent a relatively small fraction of the population, the swath of people who will be affected by the shake-up in employer-sponsored coverage will be much broader.

 

 

Which is why I've been   shaking my head ever since Obammy issued that illegal executive dictat of his to delay the employer mandate.   Does he think it's going to be BETTER for him and his Demonrats come the midterm elections?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/s][/b] at November 20, 2013 10:54 AM (4df7R)

187 174 I'm ready for my letter-EC That sucks, are you serious here? I suspect a lot of people will get that letter next year when the Employer Mandate gets close to law again.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humantiarian at November 20, 2013 10:54 AM (HVff2)

188 If the left coast West of the rockies and the NE including MD dropped out and formed their own country we could do pretty good with what is left over.

Posted by: Vic at November 20, 2013 10:54 AM (FTQyq)

189 Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at November 20, 2013 02:48 PM (4df7R) And hospitals can now register you for Medicaid RIGHT IN THE ER! Whoooo! This can't go wrong at all!

Posted by: tsrblke PhD(c) (No really!) at November 20, 2013 10:54 AM (GaqMa)

190 O/T: Looks like a "knock out" game may have finally gone wrong with the assailant shot be the intended victim. In this case, they were going to taser the victim (?).
http://preview.tinyurl.com/lo7vre8

Posted by: Lizzy at November 20, 2013 10:54 AM (JRmiD)

191 I'm not sayin' it's for everybody, I'm just sayin'.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at November 20, 2013 02:51 PM (4df7R)

 

How about  a  dark black man in  a  flannel shirt  with bug / sad eyes? 

Posted by: Joey Biden at November 20, 2013 10:55 AM (m2CN7)

192 At least Oregon is not full of cousin-fucking rednecks like the rest of your stupid flyover states.

Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, VT at November 20, 2013 10:55 AM (jCQ+I)

193 What's 245 Mil amongst friends, really?

Posted by: garrett at November 20, 2013 10:55 AM (aVn9x)

194 It's kinda impressive to be unable to control your anger and public rages more than a few weeks. Arec Bardwin lives the gimmick.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 20, 2013 10:55 AM (ZPrif)

195 I have a friend who used to date a woman who worked at Rite-Aid and would buy narcotic pills off Medicaid patients to re-sell in bars. Apparently trading your free shit for cash is popular.

 

 

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at November 20, 2013 02:53 PM (ZKzrr)

 

Whoda thunk it?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/s][/b] at November 20, 2013 10:55 AM (4df7R)

196 I suspect a lot of people will get that letter next year when the Employer Mandate gets close to law again.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humantiarian at November 20, 2013 02:54 PM (HVff2)


Completely serious.


I know my company will dump us as soon as they can, which will be next year around this time.  They've already dumped the retirees onto Medicare.


Posted by: EC at November 20, 2013 10:55 AM (GQ8sn)

197 I still don't know if I will have insurance thru my employer next year.  Last we heard was that they were going to try to provide us with something similar.  That was 8 weeks ago.  Not a peep since.

Posted by: Infidel at November 20, 2013 10:56 AM (O/fK8)

198 The last good thing that happened in OR? They filmed Animal House there.

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 20, 2013 10:56 AM (0FSuD)

199 How about a dark black man in a flannel shirt with bug / sad eyes?

Posted by: Joey Biden at November 20, 2013 02:55 PM (m2CN7)

 

 

*squint*

 

>-<

 

You mean like....  a Face Sized Spider?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/s][/b] at November 20, 2013 10:56 AM (4df7R)

200 184 Oh Hey I Know: The Doctor Freedom and Fairness Act.

Posted by: King Barky the Liar at November 20, 2013 02:53 PM (WGm5T)


How about the Health Employment Resource Persistence Act - Doctor Enhancement Redeployment Program, Barky?

Posted by: joncelli at November 20, 2013 10:57 AM (RD7QR)

201 That show Portlandia on Netflix is worth watching. More Liberal skewering than a Barney Frank birthday party.

Posted by: Lincolntf at November 20, 2013 10:57 AM (ZshNr)

202

(X)(X)

 

Propellers.

Posted by: Roy at November 20, 2013 10:57 AM (VndSC)

203

They spent 300 million on their website.

Posted by: Hawkette at November 20, 2013 10:57 AM (i7KmQ)

204 Actually, my eyes sparkle with life.  Especially after nomming on a  ginger.

Posted by: Face Sized Spider at November 20, 2013 10:57 AM (KjlbF)

205 Posted by: EC at November 20, 2013 02:55 PM (GQ8sn That sucks, it really does. On the bright side, not too bright, at least you know it's coming. Imagine all the livs who don't? It could get ugly.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humantiarian at November 20, 2013 10:58 AM (HVff2)

206

That show Portlandia on Netflix is worth watching. More Liberal skewering than a Barney Frank birthday party.

 

*spews water everywhere*

Posted by: Infidel at November 20, 2013 10:58 AM (O/fK8)

207 They spent 300 million on their website.

Posted by: Hawkette at November 20, 2013 02:57 PM (i7KmQ)



Think of how much pixy could fetch for ace.mu.nu!!!



Posted by: EC at November 20, 2013 10:58 AM (GQ8sn)

208 We're the happy ones.

Posted by: purse spiders at November 20, 2013 10:58 AM (QupBk)

209 Short, but, sweet: Angela is a 27-year-old PR executive who is rebelling against ObamaCare. She opted for a $105 per month plan with AMG Medical, which covers annual exams and urgent care. She is willing to pay the ObamaCare penalty. She will still save money. The biggest ObamaCare lie is NOT that you can keep your doctor or your insurance plan, it is that more health insurance automatically means more health care. http://tinyurl.com/lruahm5 foxnews

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2013 10:58 AM (IXrOn)

210 It's like Daniel Patrick Moynihan's Canadian Border Law. Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan calculated in 1993 that there's an r = .52 correlation between a state's test scores and its distance in miles from the Canadian border.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 20, 2013 10:58 AM (ZPrif)

211 "As Oregon Goes, So Goes the Country"
Oregon makes me think of wonderful Tillamook ice cream and breweries on every corner. Also no sales tax.  I'm okay with this.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at November 20, 2013 10:59 AM (WdbF7)

212 Does anyone have figures for the total amount of Federal expenditures for all the websites? Because, you know, I feel like whistling past the graveyard.

Posted by: alexthechick - Here SMOD SMOD SMOD at November 20, 2013 10:59 AM (VtjlW)

213 To date, how much, per person, has obamacare cost? Remember we did this with the Stimulus $$/job "created or saved"?

Posted by: soothie at November 20, 2013 10:59 AM (AePd+)

214 The biggest ObamaCare lie is NOT that you can keep your doctor or your insurance plan, it is that more health insurance automatically means more health care.


It IS more health care, only it doesn't go to you.  It goes to other people.


Posted by: EC at November 20, 2013 10:59 AM (GQ8sn)

215 If the left coast West of the rockies and the NE including MD dropped out and formed their own country we could do pretty good with what is left over.

Posted by: Vic at November 20, 2013 02:54 PM (FTQyq)

 

 

-----------------------------------------------

 

 

Yup.  Along with Constitutional governance  and a resugence of freedom.   I have a feeling something like this will eventually happen  one way or the other.  I have a dream.

Posted by: Soona at November 20, 2013 11:00 AM (66ULQ)

216

I'm state gubmint so I've got the fucking SEIU union goons fighting for our health insurance.

 

 

*spit!*

 

 

I look forward to the wails of misery when, sometime very soon, MATH lays the smack down on them and the state dumps us all into the exchange.  Oooooh, it will be schadenfreuderiffic.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/s][/b] at November 20, 2013 11:00 AM (4df7R)

217 She opted for a $105 per month plan with AMG Medical, which covers annual exams and urgent care. She is willing to pay the ObamaCare penalty. She will still save money. I asked about this the other day. Whether you could still buy non-compliant hospitalization insurance and just pay the fine. I guess you can.

Posted by: purse spiders at November 20, 2013 11:00 AM (QupBk)

218 192 At least Oregon is not full of cousin-fucking rednecks like the rest of your stupid flyover states. Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, VT at November 20, 2013 02:55 PM You guys mentioned the lack of trolls once too often. Here she is...

Posted by: elaine at November 20, 2013 11:00 AM (GNZ0/)

219

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at November 20, 2013 02:56 PM (4df7R)

 

I was teasing  you for your love of Steve  Buscemi.  

Posted by: Joey Biden at November 20, 2013 11:00 AM (m2CN7)

220

I don't get how people can sell their pills. I mean, don't they need them? But, I guess the reality is there are a lot of doctors out there still willing to write prescriptions for pain pills that aren't really needed. I don't understand how it works, I had to go through practically an act of God when my doctor decided to prescribe me 5 pills for pain for a procedure.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at November 20, 2013 11:00 AM (RZ8pf)

221 If the left coast West of the rockies and the NE including MD dropped out and formed their own country we could do pretty good with what is left over.
Posted by: Vic at November 20, 2013 02:54 PM (FTQyq)


Yes!


I am all for balkanization now.  Let them have their shitholes.  We'll put up walls.


Posted by: EC at November 20, 2013 11:01 AM (GQ8sn)

222 retarded sock

Posted by: polynikes at November 20, 2013 11:01 AM (m2CN7)

223 I was teasing you for your love of Steve Buscemi.

Posted by: Joey Biden at November 20, 2013 03:00 PM (m2CN7)

 

Steve Buscemi in a flannel shirt?   Hells to the yes!


 

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/s][/b] at November 20, 2013 11:01 AM (4df7R)

224 If people go to the state exchange for their health care, then I suppose they go to the doctor for their health insurance.

Posted by: Roy at November 20, 2013 11:01 AM (VndSC)

225

Looking at "ObamaCare" from just the financial end of it, this has got to be the greatest waste of money spent on absolutely nothing in the history of the world.

 

Tote up the costs of all the failed websites (federal and state), and the costs of taxpayers paying for Medicaid for all these new enrollees coast to coast, and the higher premiums paid by everybody, whether in the individual or employer marketplace, and it's mindboggling.  And not one aspirin has yet been dispensed for all this cash.

 

It will take a generation or more for the USA to recover from the excesses of Democrat party leadership.  The GOP holding the US House of Reps has merely applied a slight brake to the speed of light financial ruin the Democrats have embarked upon.

 

 

Posted by: whyme at November 20, 2013 11:02 AM (l9mF2)

226 I don't get how people can sell their pills. I mean, don't they need them? But, I guess the reality is there are a lot of doctors out there still willing to write prescriptions for pain pills that aren't really needed. I don't understand how it works, I had to go through practically an act of God when my doctor decided to prescribe me 5 pills for pain for a procedure.


Let's say you just decide to tough it out and not take your 5 pills.

Boom!  

You got 5 pills for sale!


Posted by: EC at November 20, 2013 11:02 AM (GQ8sn)

227 223 I was teasing you for your love of Steve Buscemi. Posted by: Joey Biden at November 20, 2013 03:00 PM (m2CN7) Steve Buscemi in a flannel shirt? Hells to the yes! --- When I get that money, the first thing I'm gonna do is buy a leather suit with the crotch cut out!

Posted by: Steve Buscemi in Airheads at November 20, 2013 11:02 AM (/Crba)

228 ( + )( + )

silicone breasts

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 20, 2013 11:02 AM (oJ5Fd)

229

At least Oregon is not full of cousin-fucking rednecks like the rest of your stupid flyover states.

Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, VT at November 20, 2013 02:55 PM

 

Ye who liveth in Vermont shouldst not throw stones RE: cousin-fucking.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/s][/b] at November 20, 2013 11:02 AM (4df7R)

230 I had to go through practically an act of God when my doctor decided to prescribe me 5 pills for pain for a procedure. Try getting speed from one. I almost got into a fight with my doctor when I asked for some biphetamine to lose weight.

Posted by: purse spiders at November 20, 2013 11:03 AM (QupBk)

231 228 ( + )( + ) silicone breasts --- oo A-cups

Posted by: Steve Buscemi in Airheads at November 20, 2013 11:03 AM (/Crba)

232 dammit, off hairy legged sock

Posted by: toby928© at November 20, 2013 11:03 AM (QupBk)

233 Steve Buscemi in a flannel shirt? Hells to the yes!



*can't figure it out*


Posted by: EC at November 20, 2013 11:03 AM (GQ8sn)

234

Let's say you just decide to tough it out and not take your 5 pills.

Boom!

You got 5 pills for sale!


 

Posted by: EC at November 20, 2013 03:02 PM (GQ8sn)

 

 

And with the money you make from those 5 pills, you can buy yourself some     heroin.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/s][/b] at November 20, 2013 11:03 AM (4df7R)

235 221 If the left coast West of the rockies and the NE including MD dropped out and formed their own country we could do pretty good with what is left over. Posted by: Vic at November 20, 2013 02:54 PM (FTQyq) So your point is, the South should have won. It's the same fight 150 years later.

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 20, 2013 11:03 AM (0FSuD)

236 Ye who liveth in Vermont shouldst not throw stones RE: cousin-fucking.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at November 20, 2013 03:02 PM (4df7R)


Well, it's that or the cows.

Posted by: joncelli at November 20, 2013 11:04 AM (RD7QR)

237 Leaving Oregon for Arizona in January, where I can open my own practice and make twice as much income with ⅓ the taxes. Second best decision I've made in 40 years since I graduated Med School. First best was serving as USAF Flight Surgeon.

Posted by: Doctor Robert at November 20, 2013 11:04 AM (4anCv)

238
Barry: Not only did I give them healthcare, I cut premiums by 3,000%. And because I'm a nice guy I'm increasing your chocolate ration too

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 20, 2013 11:04 AM (1Jaio)

239 At least Oregon is not full of cousin-fucking rednecks like the rest of your stupid flyover states.
Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, VT

Marriage between first cousins is legal in Vermont.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at November 20, 2013 11:04 AM (ZKzrr)

240

(.)(.)(.)(.)(.)(.)(.)(.)

 

sweet dreams

Posted by: Roy at November 20, 2013 11:04 AM (VndSC)

241 *can't figure it out*


Posted by: EC at November 20, 2013 03:03 PM (GQ8sn)

 

 

AtC knows what I'm talkin' about.  

 

Anyway, like I said yesterday: my head's a weird place.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/s][/b] at November 20, 2013 11:05 AM (4df7R)

242 Oh there are definitely rednecks in Oregon, just as there are rednecks in California. Not every part of the west coast is Portlandia and Hollyweird.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at November 20, 2013 11:05 AM (WdbF7)

243 Anyway, like I said yesterday: my head's a weird place.


But it's an awesome place!

Posted by: Nucky Thompson Face Spider at November 20, 2013 11:05 AM (GQ8sn)

244 Well, it's that or the cows.

Posted by: joncelli at November 20, 2013 03:04 PM (RD7QR)

 

Very true.

 

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/s][/b] at November 20, 2013 11:06 AM (4df7R)

245 This is clearly the fault of all those legions of Republicans in Oregon, telling people not to sign up for Obamacare!  Sabotage!!111!!1!111!!!

Posted by: Dana Milbank at November 20, 2013 11:07 AM (Q4elb)

246 i just successfully signed up on healthcare.gov this morning and then some navigators came to my home and fucked me in the ass "boom! there's your healthcare cracker!" i'm scared

Posted by: hiding under my bed at November 20, 2013 11:07 AM (yhJhK)

247 196  They've already dumped the retirees onto Medicare.

Posted by: EC at November 20, 2013 02:55 PM (GQ8sn)



IIANM the law requires that.  And on top of that when you turn 65 if the individual does not go down and apply for medicare at 65 and they later do apply they are penalized (part B).  The longer past 65 they go the more they are penalized.  And the penalties get heavy.



This was all explained to me last weekend by my brother who just turned 65.

Posted by: Vic at November 20, 2013 11:07 AM (FTQyq)

248 University of California at Merced, just announced that it is cancelling the cheap student health plans they used to give... because they do not meet the Obamacare standards... They say students can go on their parents health insurance. Problem is, if your parents to not live in THIS section of California... your Doctor will not be HERE... if they live in a different State? you are even worse off.... This means many students will not have LOCAL Health insurance coverage.

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 20, 2013 11:07 AM (lZBBB)

249 At least Oregon is not full of cousin-fucking rednecks like the rest of your stupid flyover states

Oregon outside of Portland is like most places outside of Portland. Plenty of cousin pumpers, hillbillies, dumbshits, rednecks - just normal folks.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at November 20, 2013 11:07 AM (+lsX1)

250 But it's an awesome place!

Posted by: Nucky Thompson Face Spider at November 20, 2013 03:05 PM (GQ8sn)

 

Now I have this bizarre image of Steve Buscemi's face on a big, furry spider body.   It's like something out of "Coraline."

 

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/s][/b] at November 20, 2013 11:07 AM (4df7R)

251 Not that I mind being stuck in this thread with my favorite internet friends and assorted spiders, but maybe can we get a new thread soon?

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at November 20, 2013 11:07 AM (RZ8pf)

252 Marriage between first cousins is legal in Vermont.


When I went to go get my marriage license, the very first question is "Are you closer than first cousins?"  It took me a minute to realize they were trying to ask in a gentle way, "Are you brother and sister?"



Posted by: EC at November 20, 2013 11:07 AM (GQ8sn)

253
(.)(.)(.)(,)
(.)(.)(.)(.)


A dog laying on her side....


Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 20, 2013 11:08 AM (kdS6q)

254 200 --- How about the Health Employment Resource Persistence Act - Doctor Enhancement Redeployment Program, Barky? Posted by: joncelli at November 20, 2013 02:57 PM (RD7QR) ------------------------------ Health Employment Resource Persistent Earnings Statute --- or- HERPES for short.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 20, 2013 11:08 AM (dfYL9)

255 I had to go through practically an act of God when my doctor decided to prescribe me 5 pills for pain for a procedure.

I'm running into some problems getting prescriptions for narcotics filled because of the frequency of refills.  It seems CVS has a limit to the number of prescriptions they will fill per month for narcs.  I was a day early bringing in a script.  They called me and told me I could wait until the next day and fill it or pick it up and go somewhere else.  I picked it up and filled it at Walgreens and paid out of pocket because Tricare cancelled their contract with Walgreens last year.  I tell you what, you couldn't pay me enough to sell those little suckers. 

Posted by: no good deed at November 20, 2013 11:08 AM (k55Fc)

256

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at November 20, 2013 03:00 PM (RZ8pf)

 

Over prescribing of opioids, benzodiazepines, muscle relaxants and anti depressants is out of control.   I spend 50% of my time monitoring  and discussing medication managment  of our Workers Compensation unit.   I suspect a good percentage of my claimants are selling or sharing their drugs.  Because of those concerns in the  industry,  these pain management doctors have  found another scam to make money and that is to have  drug testing done every 3 months  under the guise they are complying with standards.   Finally bringing the scam into line but  its a constant battle. 

Posted by: polynikes at November 20, 2013 11:08 AM (m2CN7)

257

220 -

 

Look at it this way:

 

Some women will give up the cooch for anybody and everybody.  Some, it takes an act  of God (literally) to get them to sleep with a guy. 

 

If you know which one you are looking for, you can find one or  the other.

 

Same with doctors who write prescriptions for pain meds. 

Posted by: BurtTC at November 20, 2013 11:08 AM (TOk1P)

258 This means many students will not have LOCAL Health insurance coverage. Posted by: Romeo13 at November 20, 2013 03:07 PM (lZBBB) Libs never learned Cause and Effect.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2013 11:08 AM (IXrOn)

259 235  So your point is, the South should have won.
It's the same fight 150 years later.

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 20, 2013 03:03 PM (0FSuD)


Not the same States

Posted by: Vic at November 20, 2013 11:10 AM (FTQyq)

260

One is the loneliest number.

Posted by: Comma Nipple at November 20, 2013 11:10 AM (BrQrN)

261 Libs never learned Cause and Effect. --- I saw Cause And Effect open for Meat Loaf at the UNO Lakefront Arena back in '94.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at November 20, 2013 11:10 AM (/Crba)

262 AtC knows what I'm talkin' about. Anyway, like I said yesterday: my head's a weird place. Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at November 20, 2013 03:05 PM (4df7R) *fistbump* http://bit.ly/162jb4

Posted by: alexthechick - Here SMOD SMOD SMOD at November 20, 2013 11:10 AM (VtjlW)

263 Cover Oregon had a cool commercial. What else do you want?

Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at November 20, 2013 11:11 AM (6ahup)

264 Response to Paranoid Girl in Seattle. Well, first the State decided way too many people were suffering from chronic pain and needed doctors to prescribe more pain pills. Then after the predictable results of scaring doctors into prescribing lest they be sanctioned for not, they realized there were lots of folks getting pain meds they didn't need, so the pendulum swung back. Now you are screwed either way as a doc, and as you noted, as a patient too. But since grass will be sold legally soon as soon as the State figures out how to, you can just get high and not care about your pain. Or your DUI. Or your job you lost. But your paranoia probably will be worse. Just remember, just because you are paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get you.

Posted by: Doctor Robert at November 20, 2013 11:11 AM (4anCv)

265 AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH A warm moist 245 Million Dollar Hole.

Posted by: 7 Days in May at November 20, 2013 11:11 AM (j6DTo)

266 IIANM the law requires that. And on top of that when you turn 65 if the individual does not go down and apply for medicare at 65 and they later do apply they are penalized (part B). The longer past 65 they go the more they are penalized. And the penalties get heavy.

This was all explained to me last weekend by my brother who just turned 65.

Posted by: Vic at November 20, 2013 03:07 PM (FTQyq)


----


It's just a little NUDGE.

Posted by: Cass Sunstein at November 20, 2013 11:11 AM (nELVU)

267 Ladies, you are all whores.



http://tinyurl.com/o5swc2t



Posted by: EC at November 20, 2013 11:11 AM (GQ8sn)

268 Problem is, if your parents to not live in THIS section of California... your Doctor will not be HERE... if they live in a different State? you are even worse off....

How about if your parents are dead, or on Medicare, or their employer just dropped coverage?

(Am I the only person in America who knows young people who don't have two living working middle-class parents?)

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at November 20, 2013 11:12 AM (ZKzrr)

269 Oregon? Aren't they still trying to certify the Bush v. Gore election results?

Posted by: Darth Randall at November 20, 2013 11:12 AM (Zswg6)

270 If the left coast West of the rockies and the NE including MD dropped out and formed their own country we could do pretty good with what is left over.
Posted by: Vic at November 20, 2013 02:54 PM (FTQyq)



And surrender all the beaches to the leftist hipster douchebags? I vote we bulldoze them all into the ocean.

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Div at November 20, 2013 11:12 AM (FMbng)

271 Not the same States Posted by: Vic at November 20, 2013 03:10 PM (FTQyq) We'll gladly take the Western States. Same people.

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 20, 2013 11:12 AM (0FSuD)

272 I made the mistake of looking at Las Vegas hotels on this computer and now every freaking ad is a Las Vegas hotel ad. Yeah, yeah, lecture me about adblock etc. maybe instead of me having to do something like that, my freaking computer could stop feeding my cookies to ad servers.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at November 20, 2013 11:12 AM (RZ8pf)

273 239  Marriage between first cousins is legal in Vermont.

Posted by: HeatherRadish� needs a beer at November 20, 2013 03:04 PM (ZKzrr)



I read an article a few months ago that said all that stuff about there being medical reasons to not do that is a myth.  The article said that it is a fairly common thing in all other countries and the incidence of birth defects is no more and no less than what it is here.

Posted by: Vic at November 20, 2013 11:12 AM (FTQyq)

274 #218 You guys mentioned the lack of trolls once too often. Here she is... Mary isn't a troll. That's her special brand of sarc.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at November 20, 2013 11:12 AM (7ObY1)

275

*fistbump*



http://bit.ly/162jb4


 

Posted by: alexthechick - Here SMOD SMOD SMOD at November 20, 2013 03:10 PM (VtjlW)

 

 

Awww yeeeeah.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/s][/b] at November 20, 2013 11:12 AM (4df7R)

276 Those "dumb" Americans don't know no better. NC Small Biz Owner: Obamacare Driving Me To Drink http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0O2rydgz9A#t=63 via freebeacon

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2013 11:13 AM (IXrOn)

277 ** moves briskly away from EC**

Posted by: Muad'dib at November 20, 2013 11:13 AM (KjlbF)

278 And surrender all the beaches to the leftist hipster douchebags?


Gulf coast, yo!


Posted by: EC at November 20, 2013 11:13 AM (GQ8sn)

279

So the gov't spent $245 million of federal tax money to get 56,000 people enrolled in Medicaid. 

That's $4,375 per person.

Oregon's current Medicaid program was put into effect in 1993 (20 yrs ago).

Well done.

Posted by: connertown at November 20, 2013 11:13 AM (3+eat)

280 76 why couldn't these people be signed up for Medicaid before now? And if all that was needed to cover more people was adjustments to Medicaid why didn't they just do that and leave the rest of the health insurance system alone? I don't get all this gloating over new sign-ups to Medicaid. That's not what the sweeping overall of health insurance was supposed to be about, was it?

 

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at November 20, 2013 02:30 PM (RZ8pf)

 

Because President Jarrett wanted a Big Hairy Reform Of The Whole System.  A simple Medicaid expansion was just a ho-hum, typical liberal incremental expansion of existing welfare programs.  Nothing President Jarrett could claim as a "signature achievement."  And it would have to be paid for under budget rules, coming on the heels of the $880 billion Porkulus bill.   Red-state Democrats and all Republicans would have balked at another tax increas to pay for a little bit more Medicaid.

 

The main point of Obamacare was to create a brand new entitlement for middle class, mostly white working people who have abandoned the Democratic Party.  Not to get some crappy health care to a few more poor blacks and Latinos who they knew were already voting for them. 

Posted by: rockmom at November 20, 2013 11:13 AM (Q4elb)

281 Marriage between first cousins is legal in Vermont.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at November 20, 2013 03:04 PM (ZKzrr)

 

-- That's because you have to go out of state to find someone that is not your cousin

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at November 20, 2013 11:13 AM (R8hU8)

282 I made the mistake of looking at Las Vegas hotels on this computer and now every freaking ad is a Las Vegas hotel ad. Yeah, yeah, lecture me about adblock etc. maybe instead of me having to do something like that, my freaking computer could stop feeding my cookies to ad servers. Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at November 20, 2013 03:12 PM (RZ8pf) Nothing is funnier than Disney ads popping up when I am perusing the ONT.

Posted by: alexthechick - Here SMOD SMOD SMOD at November 20, 2013 11:14 AM (VtjlW)

283 "... the Affordable Care Act provides the opportunity for many Americans to get covered under Medicaid for the first time...."

And relaxing the eligibility requirements for food stamps, Obama phones, social security disability, Section 8 housing, and all of the other 79 means tested federal wealth transfer programs   .... provides the opportunity for many Americans to get ...   addicted to government welfare.

Happy Days....

Posted by: Obamalamadingdong at November 20, 2013 11:14 AM (Xv7f/)

284 ** moves briskly away from EC**

Posted by: Muad'dib at November 20, 2013 03:13 PM (KjlbF)




Muad'dib just sent me that link!






Posted by: EC at November 20, 2013 11:14 AM (GQ8sn)

285 Every time I go to Portland, I'm struck by the lack of bold colors.  No one wears a red jacket.  It's all earth tones.  I know Columbia and REI have red in their color pallet.  Also, everyone walks around with a backpack like they are fixing to bug out or hike home. 

Posted by: no good deed at November 20, 2013 11:14 AM (k55Fc)

286 243 Oh there are definitely rednecks in Oregon, just as there are rednecks in California. Not every part of the west coast is Portlandia and Hollyweird.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at November 20, 2013 03:05 PM (WdbF7)



If you go out into the central part of CA you will find plenty of rednecks and shit kickers.

Posted by: Vic at November 20, 2013 11:14 AM (FTQyq)

287 "This means many students will not have LOCAL Health insurance coverage." --------------------------------- They would have had it with the old, substandard policies that Dear Leader is destroying. Now, .....

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 20, 2013 11:14 AM (dfYL9)

288 And surrender all the beaches to the leftist hipster douchebags? I vote we bulldoze them all into the ocean. We'd still have Galveston/Corpus/Padre Island. But yeah, maybe should keep a swath of SoCal. After we eject all the parasitic inhabitants.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at November 20, 2013 11:14 AM (7ObY1)

289 I read an article a few months ago that said all that stuff about there being medical reasons to not do that is a myth. The article said that it is a fairly common thing in all other countries and the incidence of birth defects is no more and no less than what it is here.

Posted by: Vic at November 20, 2013 03:12 PM (FTQyq)


----


WOOOOT!!!!   Family reunions BACK on the list of hook up spots!!!

Posted by: Jersey Shore at November 20, 2013 11:14 AM (nELVU)

290 And surrender all the beaches to the leftist hipster douchebags? I vote we bulldoze them all into the ocean. --- Go into the water live there die there live there die We reject our earthly fires Gone are days of land empires Lungs transform to take in water Cloaked in scales we swim and swim on We are alive, and we'll metamorphasize And we'll sink as we devolve back to beasts Our home is down here, and we've known this for years We must conquer from the sea, we build an army with water steeds

Posted by: Nathan Explosion at November 20, 2013 11:15 AM (/Crba)

291 Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at November 20, 2013 03:12 PM (ZKzrr) I guess they figure you can go on the Exchange and get a subsidy? If and when the system works? I don't know... but the students here are pissed...

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 20, 2013 11:15 AM (lZBBB)

292 Not the same States

Posted by: Vic at November 20, 2013 03:10 PM (FTQyq)


And a reversal of which states are OK with slavery....

Posted by: How Many More Parasites Am I Expected to Host? at November 20, 2013 11:15 AM (+H/11)

293 President Jarrett wanted a big hairy reform of the hole? I like it hairy.. Somethings wrong here. @ 281

Posted by: 7 Days in May at November 20, 2013 11:15 AM (j6DTo)

294 Doctor Robert, you seem like a cool doctor. Hope ObamaCare doesn't screw your life up intolerably.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at November 20, 2013 11:15 AM (RZ8pf)

295 Gulf coast, yo! Posted by: EC at November 20, 2013 03:13 PM (GQ8sn) Outer banks, Grand Strand, All of FL. Beaches? Fuck we will have the best.

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 20, 2013 11:15 AM (0FSuD)

296 WOOOOT!!!! Family reunions BACK on the list of hook up spots!!! Posted by: Jersey Shore at November 20, 2013 03:14 PM (nELVU) Annnnd this springs immediately to mind: http://youtu.be/44GlXUF4EKY (Probs NSFW)

Posted by: alexthechick - Here SMOD SMOD SMOD at November 20, 2013 11:16 AM (VtjlW)

297 I read an article a few months ago that said all that stuff about there being medical reasons to not do that is a myth. The article said that it is a fairly common thing in all other countries and the incidence of birth defects is no more and no less than what it is here.

Posted by: Vic at November 20, 2013 03:12 PM (FTQyq)

 

If you do it too often   over a period of time, it's going to come back to bite you.      Just look at the British monarchy.  

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/s][/b] at November 20, 2013 11:16 AM (4df7R)

298 283 I made the mistake of looking at Las Vegas hotels on this computer and now every freaking ad is a Las Vegas hotel ad. Yeah, yeah, lecture me about adblock etc. maybe instead of me having to do something like that, my freaking computer could stop feeding my cookies to ad servers. Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at November 20, 2013 03:12 PM (RZ8pf) Nothing is funnier than Disney ads popping up when I am perusing the ONT. --- There's a Penny Arcade on that subject. The punchline was that the ads Tycho saw were all for ostrich porn.

Posted by: Nathan Explosion at November 20, 2013 11:17 AM (/Crba)

299 I read an article a few months ago that said all that stuff about there being medical reasons to not do that is a myth. The article said that it is a fairly common thing in all other countries and the incidence of birth defects is no more and no less than what it is here.

Posted by: Vic at November 20, 2013 03:12 PM (FTQyq)


The recessives take a couple generations to come out. See the Hapsburg chin and the huge ears in the Windsors.

Posted by: joncelli at November 20, 2013 11:17 AM (RD7QR)

300 The Official AoS 10 Stages of Comment Threads 1. Outrage 2. Historical anectdotes 3. Threats of revolution 4. Boobs 5. More ancient historical references 6. Arguing with trolls 7. Threats of secession 8. Acceptance 9. Foods 10. Boobs

Posted by: soothie at November 20, 2013 11:17 AM (AePd+)

301 It is legal to marry a first cousin in 19 states and the District of Columbia. And 6 more states allow it under certain circumstances, mainly if the cousins are both too old to reproduce.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at November 20, 2013 11:17 AM (7ObY1)

302 And a reversal of which states are OK with slavery.... Posted by: How Many More Parasites Am I Expected to Host? at November 20, 2013 03:15 PM (+H/11) Slavery, contrary to what you were taught in public school, was not what the War of Northern Aggression was about. The same people, aka NYer, etc wanted to control the Southern states, sound familiar?

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 20, 2013 11:17 AM (0FSuD)

303 More Iowahawk.  There's talk of "rebranding" ObamaCare so that we won't notice what a crock of shit it is and won't mind paying more for less.  Iowahawk suggests:

Tyrannosaurus Rx™

Posted by: WalrusRex at November 20, 2013 11:18 AM (XUKZU)

304 That Protein Wisdom guy hits it out of the park again. "Had I my health, perhaps I’d be writing this morning about the Light Bringer’s decision to remove “God” from the Gettysburg Address on this, its 150th anniversary — Obama presumably wanting no one worshiping or even acknowledging any other gods but He."

Posted by: Meremortal, thinking of low info mofos at November 20, 2013 11:18 AM (1Y+hH)

305 1. Outrage 2. Historical anectdotes 3. Threats of revolution 4. Boobs 5. More ancient historical references 6. Arguing with trolls 7. Threats of secession 8. Acceptance 9. Foods 10. Boobs Posted by: soothie at November 20, 2013 03:17 PM (AePd+) LOL...you missed "I saw (---) open for (---)..." And obscure/semi-obscure TV/film references

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at November 20, 2013 11:18 AM (7ObY1)

306

*takes off tampon costume*

 

Wut?

Posted by: Prince Charles at November 20, 2013 11:19 AM (BrQrN)

307

Posted by: Vic at November 20, 2013 03:12 PM (FTQyq)

 

 I had a aunt that married her first cousin. They had twins boys that were cross eyed and a downs syndrome daughter.

Could have been a co-incidence

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at November 20, 2013 11:19 AM (R8hU8)

308 Over prescribing of opioids, benzodiazepines, muscle relaxants and anti depressants is out of control. I spend 50% of my time monitoring and discussing medication managment of our Workers Compensation unit. I suspect a good percentage of my claimants are selling or sharing their drugs. Because of those concerns in the industry, these pain management doctors have found another scam to make money and that is to have drug testing done every 3 months under the guise they are complying with standards. Finally bringing the scam into line but its a constant battle.

Posted by: polynikes at November 20, 2013 03:08 PM (m2CN7)

 

 

---------------------------------------------

 

 

I think it's  why we have the governance that we have now.   Many, many of the US' population are on these drugs.  And what do  psychotrophic drugs do?  They make everything seem just peachy.  Don't worry.  Be happy.

 

Most of these drugs are nothing but chemical shackles.

Posted by: Soona at November 20, 2013 11:19 AM (66ULQ)

309 addendum: *1A. SMOD

Posted by: soothie at November 20, 2013 11:19 AM (AePd+)

310 298  If you do it too often over a period of time, it's going to come back to bite you. Just look at the British monarchy.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at November 20, 2013 03:16 PM (4df7R)



The British monarchy seems to be doing quite well to me.

Posted by: Vic at November 20, 2013 11:19 AM (FTQyq)

311 @301 Well done. You left out the "bannings" and the lamentations of the women.

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 20, 2013 11:20 AM (0FSuD)

312 Hell, I was born and raised in the N.E. and even I wish the South had won the War of Northern Aggression.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at November 20, 2013 11:20 AM (7ObY1)

313 Yeah, replace #5 with obligatory meme recitation.

Posted by: toby928© at November 20, 2013 11:20 AM (QupBk)

314 If you do it too often over a period of time, it's going to come back to bite you. Just look at the British monarchy.

Or Pakistan (much of which has been imported to Britain via cousin marriage.)

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at November 20, 2013 11:20 AM (ZKzrr)

315 More Iowahawk. There's talk of "rebranding" ObamaCare so that we won't notice what a crock of shit it is and won't mind paying more for less.


ChryslerCare?

FiatCare?

Windows8Care?

iPadAirCare?

Posted by: EC at November 20, 2013 11:20 AM (GQ8sn)

316 Oregonians can't figure out how to run a website or pump their own gas.

Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at November 20, 2013 11:20 AM (6ahup)

317 302 It is legal to marry a first cousin in 19 states and the District of Columbia. --- First cousins is legal. LEGAL!

Posted by: Derby Harrington, Bulworth Academy at November 20, 2013 11:20 AM (/Crba)

318 I guess we'll add a 4B, then, too: Memes.

Posted by: soothie at November 20, 2013 11:21 AM (AePd+)

319 I read an article a few months ago that said all that stuff about there being medical reasons to not do that is a myth. The article said that it is a fairly common thing in all other countries and the incidence of birth defects is no more and no less than what it is here. Posted by: Vic at November 20, 2013 03:12 PM (FTQyq) ------------------------------- Check out all of the medical literature of genetic diseases and disorders afflicting the Pakistani community in the UK. It takes repeated endogamy over a few generations but the results are not good.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 20, 2013 11:21 AM (dfYL9)

320 Just imagine what will happen in the Burning Times when all these prescription drug addicts can't get their fixes. Prepper sites have warned about this for years. Load up that ammo!

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at November 20, 2013 11:21 AM (7ObY1)

321 Somewhere in that list, you have to mention firearms tragically lost in medium to large bodies of water.



Posted by: EC at November 20, 2013 11:22 AM (GQ8sn)

322 WINNING WITH TIGER BLOOD! @)!$

//Barack Sheen Obama

Posted by: sven10077 at November 20, 2013 11:22 AM (9jfyN)

323 I don't get how people can sell their pills. I mean, don't they need them? I broke my leg a few years ago. I got a two month prescription for Vicodin. I think I took about six before I didn't need it anymore. When I'd gone about two weeks without needing a pill I destroyed the rest. Someone told me I could have sold it for $50-70 a pill. With 54 pills at $60 a pop that would have been $3240. I can see someone being tempted by that.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b] at November 20, 2013 11:22 AM (sByIH)

324 43.  Never happen.  Cash with no strings means no power to coerce.  Can't have that.

Posted by: Obamalamadingdong at November 20, 2013 11:22 AM (Xv7f/)

325 308
Posted by: Vic at November 20, 2013 03:12 PM (FTQyq)

I had a aunt that married her first cousin. They had twins boys that were cross eyed and a downs syndrome daughter.
Could have been a co-incidence

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at November 20, 2013 03:19 PM (R8hU

I was going to bring up the Amish, but, eh never mind. A one shot cousin breeding, not too risky, but constant banging, watch out.

Posted by: tubal at November 20, 2013 11:22 AM (YEQ2h)

326 Most of these drugs are nothing but chemical shackles. --- I think using some of these drugs help keep people OUT of shackles by helping them not wig out when dealing with bullshit.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at November 20, 2013 11:22 AM (/Crba)

327 @322 And the "Barrel"

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 20, 2013 11:22 AM (0FSuD)

328 I was going to bring up the Amish, but, eh never mind. A one shot cousin breeding, not too risky, but constant banging, watch out. --- If your family tree does not fork, you might be a redneck.

Posted by: Jeff Foxworthy at November 20, 2013 11:23 AM (/Crba)

329 Just imagine what will happen in the Burning Times when all these prescription drug addicts can't get their fixes.



Night of the Super Tweakers?



Posted by: EC at November 20, 2013 11:23 AM (GQ8sn)

330 I saw Cousin Fuckers open for the Doobie Brothers back in '79 at the Kingdome. Pretty good show, got a handjob in the parking lot.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at November 20, 2013 11:23 AM (+lsX1)

331 Marriage between first cousins is legal in Vermont. How many Northeast Blue Bloods are inter-married? I'm guessing there's more inbreeding in those circles than in Appalachia.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b] at November 20, 2013 11:24 AM (sByIH)

332 And of course, for inbreeding caveats, I give you Bonnie Prince Charles.

Posted by: tubal at November 20, 2013 11:24 AM (YEQ2h)

333 I saw Cousin Fuckers open for the Doobie Brothers back in '79 at the Kingdome. Pretty good show, got a handjob in the parking lot.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at November 20, 2013 03:23 PM (+lsX1)


---


LOL..... that never gets old.

Posted by: fixerupper at November 20, 2013 11:24 AM (nELVU)

334 Thus we see the real goal: a massive increase of enlistment to entitlement programs. Something that would never have won wide support among Democrats if they were merely honest about it.

But this isn't about helping people in need. It's about corrupting people to bend to the leftist will. A few stronger minded sorts will resist but for all too many it is easy to become accustomed to dependency and very hard to vote against it once the voter is an effective ward of the state.

Posted by: Epobirs at November 20, 2013 11:25 AM (bPxS6)

335 How many Northeast Blue Bloods are inter-married? I'm guessing there's more inbreeding in those circles than in Appalachia. Posted by: bonhomme at November 20, 2013 03:24 PM (sByIH) That explains John F'ing Kerry then.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at November 20, 2013 11:25 AM (7ObY1)

336 new one

Posted by: Vic at November 20, 2013 11:25 AM (FTQyq)

337 Would never marry my first cousin! Why buy the cow when the milk is free?

Posted by: UWP at November 20, 2013 11:25 AM (fdXMW)

338

Posted by: tubal at November 20, 2013 03:22 PM (YEQ2h)

 

I didn't know the Amish were into cousin fucking. Amazing what you can learn here

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at November 20, 2013 11:25 AM (R8hU8)

339 Nothing gets old at AoS. Unless you're Dave At Garfield Ridge.

Posted by: soothie at November 20, 2013 11:26 AM (AePd+)

340 That explains John F'ing Kerry then.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at November 20, 2013 03:25 PM (7ObY1)


---


You've got botox in my ketchup.


Well you've got ketchup in my botox.

Posted by: fixerupper at November 20, 2013 11:26 AM (nELVU)

341 How many Northeast Blue Bloods are inter-married? I'm guessing there's more inbreeding in those circles than in Appalachia.

It's a good way to keep your fortunes from having to be broken up over generations.  If your grandkids marry your brother's grandkids, the family trust remains intact.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at November 20, 2013 11:27 AM (ZKzrr)

342 339
Posted by: tubal at November 20, 2013 03:22 PM (YEQ2h)

I didn't know the Amish were into cousin fucking. Amazing what you can learn here

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at November 20, 2013 03:25 PM (R8hU

Well, there's merely a handful of last names for the whole tribe, and marriage outside is a rare thing indeed, so........

Posted by: tubal at November 20, 2013 11:27 AM (YEQ2h)

343 A one shot cousin breeding, not too risky, but constant banging, watch out. Posted by: tubal at November 20, 2013 03:22 PM (YEQ2h) -------------------- So anal with the first cousin is okay, right? I don't even have to ask about the beejers. You know that's kosher.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at November 20, 2013 11:28 AM (CJjw5)

344 Stating facts that are contrary to positive outcomes is unpatriotic and racist. It's little wonder that Republicans only control one arm of the government and will surely lose that in 2014 when the public realizes that they are actually hoping that this law will be a failure - particularly after having warned that it was doomed.

Did Democrats cheer for failure in Iraq? No! or simply assign all the blame for the financial crisis upon Bush and the GOP. of course not! they strove unceasingly to work with the GOP to find solutions. that's what they did and have always done

Posted by: Dana Millstone at November 20, 2013 11:28 AM (4eNxd)

345 I didn't know the Amish were into cousin fucking.

Not necessarily first cousins, but when everyone in a county can trace their ancestry back to the same four or five families...

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at November 20, 2013 11:29 AM (ZKzrr)

346

1st cousin marrage among mooslems pretty much proves the point it is not a very good thing.

 

90% of birth defects in the UK are muslim/cousin mairage

Posted by: Fred Q. at November 20, 2013 11:29 AM (q+zA9)

347 I think using some of these drugs help keep people OUT of shackles by helping them not wig out when dealing with bullshit.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at November 20, 2013 03:22 PM (/Crba)

 

 

----------------------------------------------

 

 

We used to have places to send people that wig out over everyday bullshit.  We don't now.  Psychotrophic drugs are way over-perscribed.

 

Just for shits and giggles, the next time your with a group of friends or  at a public function, just ask around how many people are on some kind of anti-depressent or  narcotic pain medication.  It's going to surprise you.

Posted by: Soona at November 20, 2013 11:30 AM (66ULQ)

348 Well, there's merely a handful of last names for the whole tribe, and marriage outside is a rare thing indeed, so........


They move parts of their community around, to get around the whole genetic divesity thing.  A bunch of young boys and girls will move to a community in another state, and that community reciprocates.


Posted by: EC at November 20, 2013 11:31 AM (GQ8sn)

349 Annette FUNicello always perked me up.

Posted by: Zombie Walt Disney at November 20, 2013 11:31 AM (nbGZj)

350

Today's  medications are a very good thing  and have helped  many with positive outcomes.    As with anything  good though,  it will be abused.  

Posted by: polynikes at November 20, 2013 11:31 AM (m2CN7)

351 who the fuck crows and thumps their chest about identifying more poor people?

"YEEEEAAAHHH SUCK IT WINGNUTS!!!  We got MORE people on Foodstamps... IT's THE LAWWWWWW"

Posted by: Reality Man at November 20, 2013 11:34 AM (obXkJ)

352
Marryin' your first cousin is great, and it gave me the strength to write "Great Balls of Fire" after fucking my cousin over a long weekend.

Posted by: Jerry Lee Lewis at November 20, 2013 11:34 AM (pJF+c)

353

>>I don't get how people can sell their pills. I mean, don't they need them? But, I guess the reality is there are a lot of doctors out there still willing to write prescriptions for pain pills that aren't really needed. I don't understand how it works, I had to go through practically an act of God when my doctor decided to prescribe me 5 pills for pain for a procedure.

.

.

.Go to the VA, they hand that crap out like candy.  I have to refuse them almost every time I go in there.  It's automatic when you say you are in pain there.

Posted by: Registered Voter at November 20, 2013 11:35 AM (nUbHY)

354 138.  I had the identical reaction upon discovering there is a William Jefferson Clinton Federal Building in DC.  ( It houses the EPA.)

So now federal buildings are named for disbarred serial sex harassing philanderers.


Posted by: Laiser at November 20, 2013 11:37 AM (Xv7f/)

355 351 Today's medications are a very good thing and have helped many with positive outcomes. As with anything good though, it will be abused. Posted by: polynikes

Yes. About ten years ago my late wife went zombie on me. Wouldn't leave the bed except to relieve herself, wouldn't communicate or bathe, even. Literally hauled her to the Doc who ran every test, could not find any physical basis. It took some fiddling but when she got the dose of Paxill & time-release right Emily snapped out of it and became normal again.

Posted by: backhoe at November 20, 2013 11:40 AM (ULH4o)

356

Covered California has placed some of that Fed (taxpayer) Money with leftist activist groups who will be going door-to-door in order to inform the poor people of their options, i.e. health insurance.

So, not only is Obamacare a huge intrusion freedom wise, choice wise and security wise, it's also a huge funnel for Democrat activism, money wise. Of course that is part of the Obama scheme, making sure Democrat's retain power ad infinitum. 

 

The hubris of the Democratic party however has come back to slap them big time, by not having completed the website and having rolled it out dysfunctional in operation, and guaranteed not to be working by the final, final deadline of November 30th, will no doubt lead to the dreaded death spiral of both the law and the party.  

Posted by: the amazing cult of kool aid at November 20, 2013 12:21 PM (eQZZW)

357 "And this is what Obama touts as a success."

Well yeah.

Cain't expect him to tout the KNOCK OUT THE WHITEY game his son's are playing around the USA.

Posted by: Tortuga at November 20, 2013 01:27 PM (FmyWU)

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