January 27, 2013

As Promised, Obama Energy Policy Bankrupts New Coal Plant
— andy

From Vic in the morning thread comes this piece:

“Chase Power … has opted to suspend efforts to further permit the facility and is seeking alternative investors as part of a plan of dissolution for the parent company,” Chase CEO Dave Freysinger told the Corpus Christi Caller-Times.

Freysinger made it very clear who was responsible for the projects death. “The (Las Brisas Energy Center) is a victim of EPA’s concerted effort to stifle solid-fuel energy facilities in the U.S., including EPA’s carbon-permitting requirements and EPA’s New Source Performance Standards for new power plants,” he said.

...

“These costly rules exceeded the bounds of EPA authority, incur tremendous costs, and produce no real benefits related to climate change,” Freysinger commented

As a reminder, the executive branch, Obama's EPA, took these actions unilaterally after congress wouldn't cut the economy's throat by passing cap & trade. Who could have possibly predicted the outcome of such a policy?

TFG, that's who.

The only thing I've said with respect to coal, I haven't been some coal booster. What I have said is that for us to take coal off the table as a (sic) ideological matter as opposed to saying if technology allows us to use coal in a clean way, we should pursue it.

So if somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can.

It's just that it will bankrupt them.

And bankrupt them it did. Well done, low-info voters.

Posted by: andy at 05:25 AM | Comments (285)
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1 Worst!

Posted by: esch at January 27, 2013 05:27 AM (9XVgh)

2 I  won.

Posted by: Barry Soetoro at January 27, 2013 05:28 AM (Gqoch)

3 "The only thing I've said with respect to coal, I haven't been some coal booster. What I have said is that for us to take coal off the table as a (sic) ideological matter as opposed to saying if technology allows us to use coal in a clean way, we should pursue it. So if somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can. It's just that it will bankrupt them." What he is saying here is that he is opposed to coal because he is a left winger, not because of what it will do to the enviornment because one day technology might be able to burn it clean. So this dumbass mother fucker is opposed to a fucking energy source because of his politics. What a fucking idiot, too bad someone doesn't find a way to get Democrats to oppose fire, so they can fucking freeze to death every winter.

Posted by: Mr. Pink at January 27, 2013 05:30 AM (++kZl)

4 Obviously not union jobs, over by dere.

Posted by: dodging bullets in Chicago at January 27, 2013 05:32 AM (7VoHu)

5 I never saw that full quote in print before. I always figuring his point was that he wanted to bankrupt coal plants because he thought they were unclean. This fuck literally says "I oppose it ideologically, as opposed to enviornmentally, because if one day technology enables people to burn it clean i will be in a position to still oppose it." CAN YOU BELIEVE THIS FUCK WAS REELECTED?

Posted by: Mr. Pink at January 27, 2013 05:33 AM (++kZl)

6 Exactly, Mr. Pink. That's why I pulled that part of the quote.

Posted by: Andy at January 27, 2013 05:33 AM (OZPoa)

7 Good main blog post. Indeed, the Obama administration has made it crystal clear they want coal power eliminated. Period. And sure enough we can see the results. This plant bankruptcy (and there will be many others; keep in mind Obama and his EPA have 4 more years) not only will cost a lot of high-paying jobs it radically will increase utilities bills for those in the affected area. Once you get out of the coffee klatches and sewing circles of the chattering classes the brutal reality is that elections have very severe consequences.

Posted by: Tsar Nicholas II at January 27, 2013 05:34 AM (r2PLg)

8 Perhaps we could divert the energy already online to conservative voting districts, and let the libs have the rolling brown-outs?  Wait a minute.  Did I say 'brown'-outs?  Raaaacist!!1!1!!eleventy!!!1!.  I shall now denounce myself.

Posted by: Tim at January 27, 2013 05:36 AM (xq7pr)

9 RACIST!!! Code words hiding his disdain for those evil BLACK chunks of energy.

Posted by: Chris Matthews at January 27, 2013 05:37 AM (hlhxh)

10 So what are people supposed to use for power? Unicorn farts?

It's almost like these people have no plan.

Posted by: esch at January 27, 2013 05:38 AM (9XVgh)

11 Maybe if we soapy / scrub the coal before we burn it ,
 then it will burn cleaner....

Posted by: American Dawg at January 27, 2013 05:39 AM (trA4n)

12 @Tim.  YOU! YOU! More code words.

Posted by: Chris Matthews at January 27, 2013 05:39 AM (hlhxh)

13 A few days ago I sidebar'd something about coal plants shutting down 3X faster than EPA expected...might still be there.

That's gonna cause problems.

Posted by: @PurpAv at January 27, 2013 05:40 AM (GlnE7)

14

"CAN YOU BELIEVE THIS FUCK WAS REELECTED"

Given the qualities of his opponent, frankly, yes. "None of the above", while personally satisfying, is not a practical option for voting.

Posted by: Jess1 at January 27, 2013 05:41 AM (lbiWb)

15 Better than blackouts, Tim.

Posted by: andycanuck at January 27, 2013 05:41 AM (ORGYc)

16

Works for me, esch.

Posted by: John Boehner at January 27, 2013 05:42 AM (hlhxh)

17 I just discovered some lovely green energy growing in a container of bean soup that got pushed to the back of the fridge. Where should I send this to Barky?

Posted by: Bruce at January 27, 2013 05:42 AM (dLOky)

18 The answer of curse is to figure out a way to make being hyper regulatory fuckheads a bankrupting endeavor....

Thanks lawyers.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 27, 2013 05:42 AM (LRFds)

19 So what you're saying is this goes in the Promises Kept category?

Posted by: Matt S. at January 27, 2013 05:42 AM (7oWbB)

20 You canÂ’t drive your SUVs and, you know, eat as much as you want and keep your homes on, you know, 72 degrees at all times.

I can.  But you can't.

Posted by: Barry SCOAMF at January 27, 2013 05:45 AM (ZKzrr)

21 So the implosion of our power grid is what will cause the zombie apocalypse. Good to know.

Think I'll forgo the Pmags for now, in favor of a few more jerry cans.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at January 27, 2013 05:45 AM (4Mv1T)

22 10 So what are people supposed to use for power? Unicorn farts? It's almost like these people have no plan. Posted by: esch at January 27, 2013 09:38 AM (9XVgh) They have plans all right. They just involve winning elections. That's it, thats all they give a shit about. Thats why they dont give a shit about entitlement reform, budgets, or governing once they win. Their entire "governing" philosophy revolves around winning elections, everything else is secondary. For example, Chicago....ok stop laughing. That city is bankrupt, falling apart, and a violent cesspool people are fleeing from in droves. Do you think the machine politicians running for office are running to "solve problems"? fuck No they are running for office to be apart of the machine, to have their hand in the till. They could give two shits about what happens once they win. Fuck it go look at the Kos clowns, they openly admit all else is secondary for a politician other than winning the next election. Lying, vote fraud, counting on the votes of idiots, and betraying their ideology is all ok, as long as they win. They fucking admit it. Solving problems....haha dont make me laugh. I bet Harry Reid laughed when Paul Ryan and the Republicans submitted their budget. I am positive Obama did.

Posted by: Mr. Pink at January 27, 2013 05:46 AM (++kZl)

23 States need to pass laws requiring power companies to fully satisfy state customers before transmitting power over state lines.  If Californians want to vote stupid, let their cities go dark.

Posted by: John W. at January 27, 2013 05:46 AM (K7KaF)

24 I see a lot of chickens, inbound; rack'm, pack'm and stack'm, the roost is full.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at January 27, 2013 05:49 AM (gnm9a)

25 Works for me, esch.

Oh go cry in your coffee, you worthless blubbering twat.

Posted by: esch at January 27, 2013 05:49 AM (9XVgh)

26 Warren Buffett's trains run constantly between coal mines in Wyoming, etc. to Texas coal fired power plants.  Does he have enough money yet?

Posted by: huerfano at January 27, 2013 05:52 AM (bAGA/)

27 It's a pity nobody beat his purple lipped head in when he was running for senate leaking divorce records.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 27, 2013 05:52 AM (LRFds)

28 Hrm.

http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/kopp-column-fascism-is-alive-and-well-in-america/

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at January 27, 2013 05:53 AM (ZKzrr)

29 24 Skandia Recluse,

at least his sex life is constant and vibrant then

Posted by: sven10077 at January 27, 2013 05:53 AM (LRFds)

30 I for one welcome our jug-eared gay commie lousy jump shot fugly wife circle of idiot syncophant-having Marxist overlord.

Posted by: USS Diversity at January 27, 2013 05:53 AM (QLJPW)

31 I have relatives in WVA. Rons, Don't even start up with the jokes I am drunk , pissed off and armed, and besides I heard them all already (definition of foreplay in WVA..."SIS , are you awake?). (you know the toothbrush was invented in WVA..because if it was invented anywhere else it would be called the teethbrush!) etc., etc. Anyway they damn near shut the coal industry down in WVA, which (besides moonshining and insurance fraud) was one of the only viable industries there. Lots of people out work. And they are real slow to tap the unicorn fart veins they keep claiming exist. Thanks lightbringer!

Posted by: Judge_Roy_bean at January 27, 2013 05:55 AM (UmfGF)

32 He won because the FSA turned out in droves.  They don't pay for their electricity, you do.


And for the life of me I don't understand why Rick Perry has not arrested these EPA goons.

Posted by: Vic at January 27, 2013 05:55 AM (53z96)

33 Binders full of women. Also, shut up.

Posted by: Liberal Democrats at January 27, 2013 05:55 AM (celt+)

34 30 USS Diversity,

I shoot skeet at Camp David all the time, and by skeet I mean babies and baby ducks.

//Ogasm

Posted by: sven10077 at January 27, 2013 05:55 AM (LRFds)

35 I support this move to keep dangerous greenhouse gases out of our atmosphere. President Obama's wise environmental policies will give the children a cleaner planet.

Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, Vermont at January 27, 2013 05:56 AM (1UCCk)

36 esch. You're gonna make me cry.

Posted by: John Boehner at January 27, 2013 05:57 AM (hlhxh)

37 If this irrational (insane?) fear of coal isn't incontrovertible proof that the Left has no interest in a real energy policy, but that they are simply trying to destroy America, then I give up.

When emissions from the stack are identical to other sources of energy, but coal is forbidden, what else could it be?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 27, 2013 05:58 AM (GsoHv)

38 32 Vic,

because we're not going to fight it Vic, and we're not going to try to stop the invasion from mexico, and we're not going to demand to work, and we're not going to try to figure out how to stop him, and we're not going to try to ramp up our density to protect Texas and by extension the Constitution....


We're gonna run people who know precisely what is going on in private and in public say what an earnest well-meaning confused guy he is....

while we let him wreck our children's future.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 27, 2013 05:58 AM (LRFds)

39

"No they are running for office to be apart of the machine, to have their hand in the till. They could give two shits about what happens once they win. Fuck it go look at the Kos clowns, they openly admit all else is secondary for a politician other than winning the next election"

 

This. Once "government" became the overarching power base, then taking control of said "government" is a goal - "governing" simply isn't part of the equation anymore.

Posted by: Jess1 at January 27, 2013 05:58 AM (lbiWb)

40 The EPA and the evironmentalists are trying to shut down the Navajo Generating Station in Page, AZ. The power plant employs almost all Navajos, the main coal supplier provides 1000 jobs to the Navajo Nation. The unemployment rate for Navajos is 50%. Yet the Navajos vote exclusively Democrat. The Sierra Club and others claim the plant creates pollution and haze over the Grand Canyon. This plant sends most of it's power to Los Angeles. http://tinyurl.com/b2xd2j4

Posted by: RedEnchiladas at January 27, 2013 05:59 AM (46nMv)

41 Aside from whether you want to call out SCOAMF as a damn fool marxist, which is painfully obvious, this demonstrates what happens when a radical leftist has government control.

Ideology will trump logic, practicality, feasibility, capitalism and individual rights and freedoms.

Every.time.

Popular history disparages Nixon for Watergate, but it is his EPA has done much, much more damage to America.

The other thing that concerns me with this subversive traitor is that we are far from done with things that will "necessarily skyrocket".  

Posted by: ontherocks at January 27, 2013 05:59 AM (aZ6ew)

42 I'm still waiting for the Greens to explain to me what technology that is currently in use we are supposed to use for energy while we are waiting for the unicorn farms to come online.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Take us away. at January 27, 2013 05:59 AM (Gk3SS)

43 37 CBD,

yes, yes it is but "shut up" they explained he is so dreamy and sooner or later venture socialism will work....

Posted by: sven10077 at January 27, 2013 05:59 AM (LRFds)

44 Why this wasnt on adds in PA and WVA every day is beyond me. The first part of that quote, with a fucking explanation, and then the second part and flashing over coal plant bankruptcy data. And we lost to this loser. Think about that for a second, the American people voted for this. The minute I feel sorry for the people that worked in these coal plants all I have to do is remember they voted for this idiot, and I start to get joy out of their unemployment. Fuck em.

Posted by: Mr. Pink at January 27, 2013 05:59 AM (++kZl)

45 Yeah Cloggedbrainenstein, an energy free ruduced population planet, stupid bint.

Posted by: Gmac - Waiting for the revolution at January 27, 2013 05:59 AM (IanLz)

46 When emissions from the stack are identical to other sources of energy, but coal is forbidden, what else could it be?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

We can always just use electricity. That way we won't have all of those nasty things needed to make electricity.

Posted by: Bruce at January 27, 2013 05:59 AM (dLOky)

47 Hell. We don't bother with Camp David? He just waves at it on the way to Hawaii.

Posted by: Michelle at January 27, 2013 06:00 AM (hlhxh)

48 It's time for the few remaining Mittards to come clean: he was a horrible, horrible candidate uninterested in winning. All he had to do in key swing states was quote Obama, forcing the press to cover it, and states like Ohio and Penn would have been in the bag.

Posted by: Hopeless at January 27, 2013 06:01 AM (BW3wP)

49 I hate this guy. People have no jobs & can't afford fuel. Fuck him!

Posted by: Waldo Truth at January 27, 2013 06:02 AM (jwumz)

50 You don't need coal, I'm whats important wingnuts!

Posted by: Gay Marriage at January 27, 2013 06:02 AM (VrVBw)

51 And where are the Republicans on this?  They are stragizing to lose again. Except teh Sarah


Repeat

Focus on the 2014 election is also imperative. It’s going to be like 2010, but this time around we need to shake up the GOP machine that tries to orchestrate away too much of the will of constitutional conservatives who don’t give a hoot how they do it in DC. DC is out of touch, obviously. Voices on the right like Mark Levin, Rush, and the writers here at Breitbart have come out strongly against the “go along to get along” politicians who wave the white flag before the battle even begins



And that underlined part is why the damn EPA is killing us.  Remember the EPA was put in place by a REPUBLICAN President.

Posted by: Vic at January 27, 2013 06:03 AM (53z96)

52 Posted by: Bruce at January 27, 2013 09:59 AM (dLOky)

You're joking (and well), but you are close to the truth.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 27, 2013 06:03 AM (GsoHv)

53 This nation-destroying fuck is our second-term President because his opponent for the Senate seat from Illinois didn't think banging his wife Jeri Ryan - yes, that Jeri Ryan - was exciting enough without doing it in a sex club with a bunch of people watching.

Jack Ryan's penis needs to be shot for treason.

Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at January 27, 2013 06:03 AM (celt+)

54

What a fucking idiot, too bad someone doesn't find a way to get Democrats to oppose fire, so they can fucking freeze to death every winter.

 

 

 

FIRE!  BAD!!!

Posted by: Phil Hartmanstein at January 27, 2013 06:04 AM (0WLla)

55 One thing would help...

Posted by: Upside to the Zombie Apocalypse at January 27, 2013 06:04 AM (QLJPW)

56 All he had to do in key swing states was quote Obama, forcing the press to cover it, and states like Ohio and Penn would have been in the bag. Posted by: Hopeless at January 27, 2013 10:01 AM (BW3wP) And if a frog had wings it wouldn't bump it's ass a hoppin.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 27, 2013 06:04 AM (l86i3)

57 Cbd, It's because the coal industry isn't liberal. It isn't insane, it's calculated politics. Use that lense and leftism makes more sense, and their future moves are transparent. Mr Pink, It's not entirely their fault. The GOP in 08 and 12 has refused to educate the electorate on who Obama really is.

Posted by: Hopeless at January 27, 2013 06:05 AM (IqMNQ)

58 Jack Ryan's penis needs to be shot for treason. sure, why not, but I bet ya it was Jeri's idea to do that! meanwhile - the people who have jobs in PA are the vast minority. it's a govt client state

Posted by: BlackOrchid-StillMissingDagny at January 27, 2013 06:05 AM (J6kXj)

59

They were given a permit. It was recinded for an additional fucking.

 

EPA is a rogue agency.

Posted by: Invictus at January 27, 2013 06:05 AM (OQpzc)

60 Posted by: Vic at January 27, 2013 10:03 AM (53z96)

Exactly.

"Go along, get along" is going to destroy us (if it hasn't already).

Gloves off, confront every lie, never let anything slide. Attack, attack, attack.

Then we may win.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 27, 2013 06:05 AM (GsoHv)

61 who have jobs in PA non-govt jobs I mean - I include health care and edu as govt jobs

Posted by: BlackOrchid-StillMissingDagny at January 27, 2013 06:05 AM (J6kXj)

62 And the part that makes me the most enraged is that the collapse will be blamed on conservatives.

Posted by: esch at January 27, 2013 06:06 AM (9XVgh)

63 48 It's time for the few remaining Mittards to come clean: he was a horrible, horrible candidate uninterested in winning. Oh he wanted to win. He just went by the classic Republican metric - money spent. It didn't matter his money (and the donors') was being pissed away on dumb ads and 'consulting.' Mitt was a shitty candidate. We lost when Rick Perry decided the debates weren't important.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at January 27, 2013 06:06 AM (uhAkr)

64 53 Taro Tsujimoto,

I never understood why a hospital paying Michelle Dorn Obama 300,00o for shoving the poor out of ERs and fucking Jugears wasn't treason but....

Posted by: sven10077 at January 27, 2013 06:06 AM (LRFds)

65 and states like Ohio and Penn would have been in the bag.

Lol.

Posted by: Precincts in Philly voting 102% for Obama at January 27, 2013 06:06 AM (ZKzrr)

66 62 And the part that makes me the most enraged is that the collapse will be blamed on conservatives. right, but by then there won't be any

Posted by: BlackOrchid-StillMissingDagny at January 27, 2013 06:06 AM (J6kXj)

67 Jerri Ryan
http://tinyurl.com/bxqxqhr

She played 9 of 10 on Star Trek...

Posted by: American Dawg at January 27, 2013 06:06 AM (trA4n)

68 The power plant employs almost all Navajos, the main coal supplier provides 1000 jobs to the Navajo Nation. The unemployment rate for Navajos is 50%. Yet the Navajos vote exclusively Democrat.

I hope they don't expect me to feel sorry for them.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at January 27, 2013 06:07 AM (ZKzrr)

69 Posted by: Gmac - Waiting for the revolution at January 27, 2013 09:59 AM (IanLz)

Gmac, meet sock. Sock, meet Gmac.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 27, 2013 06:07 AM (GsoHv)

70 62 esch,

maybe we have a duty to keep reminding folks of reality maybe just enough of us will be left when these fucks implode to help start over....

they are trying to tip the balance with people who owe no loyalty to our system and have no memory of a healthy America...but they love gay marriage and 4th trimester abortion

Posted by: sven10077 at January 27, 2013 06:08 AM (LRFds)

71 She played 9 of 10 on Star Trek... 7 of 9 that happened to be a 10.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 27, 2013 06:09 AM (l86i3)

72 ]i]She played 9 of 10 on Star Trek...

Posted by: American Dawg

 

 

 

PENIS!  HARD!!!

Posted by: Phil Hartmanstein at January 27, 2013 06:09 AM (0WLla)

73 I'd give her 9....

Posted by: USS Diversity at January 27, 2013 06:09 AM (QLJPW)

74 Mitt was a shitty candidate. We lost when Rick Perry decided the debates weren't important.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at January 27, 2013 10:06 AM (uhAkr)


We lost because too many so-called conservatives listened to the MFM about the worthless non-debates.



Too many on here as well.

Posted by: Vic at January 27, 2013 06:09 AM (53z96)

75 66 Black orchid,

oh there'll be "Americans" in other countries or exiled to no power...but we'll exist.

Every fascist needs a scapegoat...

Posted by: sven10077 at January 27, 2013 06:10 AM (LRFds)

76 What does this have to do with me? Fed govt pays for my electricity bills anyways!

Posted by: Standing Leader of FSA at January 27, 2013 06:10 AM (FsUAO)

77 We lost when Rick Perry decided the debates weren't important fucked up.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at January 27, 2013 10:06 AM (uhAkr)

FIFY

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 27, 2013 06:10 AM (GsoHv)

78 OSP, The point is this. The Mittards need to be forced to recognize that they were Mittards, so that people like Mitt never again have a future in the GOP on a national level. He was a horrible candidate. Vic, How can you not understand that only elite connected east coast liberal republicans are worthy of respect? How dare you suggest that America is a nation where common persons like Palin have something to contribute! Fucking pleebs! Now support mitt!

Posted by: Hopeless at January 27, 2013 06:10 AM (BMEH4)

79 ALMOST!  BARREL!!!

Posted by: Phil Hartmanstein at January 27, 2013 06:10 AM (0WLla)

80 The EPA and the evironmentalists are trying to shut down the Navajo Generating Station in Page, AZ. The power plant employs almost all Navajos, the main coal supplier provides 1000 jobs to the Navajo Nation. The unemployment rate for Navajos is 50%. Yet the Navajos vote exclusively Democrat. The Sierra Club and others claim the plant creates pollution and haze over the Grand Canyon. This plant sends most of it's power to Los Angeles.

http://tinyurl.com/b2xd2j4

Posted by: RedEnchiladas at January 27, 2013 09:59 AM


The APS plant in Farmington, NM scheduled 3 of its 5 units for shutdown.  It's fired by coal from Navajo Mines.  Something like 80% of employees are Navajo.  The EPA also rejected the planned Desert Rock power plant, despite its no emissions design, in 2009.

Posted by: huerfano at January 27, 2013 06:10 AM (bAGA/)

81 Mitt was a shitty candidate. We lost when Rick Perry decided the debates weren't important. Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at January 27, 2013 10:06 AM (uhAkr) Really? Rick Perry decided to have back surgery and be hopped up on meds for kicks, eh? He might still be a bad debater, but he's not a lower-case m moron.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at January 27, 2013 06:11 AM (FsUAO)

82 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1DsJ5YQr5s

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at January 27, 2013 06:11 AM (ZKzrr)

83 And for the life of me I don't understand why Rick Perry has not arrested these EPA goons.

Posted by: Vic at January 27, 2013 09:55 AM (53z96)

 

Texas is just waiting for the collapse. This is why I support the Pork Party for 2014. Red states hurt themselves by not bringing home the most dollars possible while the dollar still has value. D.C. ain't gonna cut a damn thing, so get some.

Posted by: Invictus at January 27, 2013 06:11 AM (OQpzc)

84

"All he had to do in key swing states was quote Obama, forcing the press to cover it, and states like Ohio and Penn would have been in the bag"

"All" makes it sound simple & easy - winning campaigns are neither, and the (R) party is clearly unwilling to muster the energy to carry out a national campaign.

Complaining @ "low information" voters & other tripe is to vindicate Aesop.

Posted by: Jess1 at January 27, 2013 06:12 AM (lbiWb)

85 80 huerfano,

they hate coal....imagine that for a second...

they hate a power source ni matter how clean the engineers finally got it they hate a power source....

and we trust them with stewardship of the economy....

fucking assholes

Posted by: sven10077 at January 27, 2013 06:12 AM (LRFds)

86 maybe we have a duty to keep reminding folks of reality maybe just enough of us will be left when these fucks implode to help start over....

Well that has been the pattern in the past. But the hard part is surviving it.

Posted by: esch at January 27, 2013 06:12 AM (9XVgh)

87 Posted by: Hopeless at January 27, 2013 10:10 AM (BMEH4) I'm sayin they shot that huntin dog. Time to train a new one.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 27, 2013 06:12 AM (l86i3)

88 44 Why this wasnt on adds in PA and WVA every day is beyond me. Because the GOP really didn't want to win. They didn't want to make our historic first black president a one-termer. It has turned out to be a great strategy -- to remain a powerless minority for the foreseeable future.

Posted by: Ed Anger at January 27, 2013 06:13 AM (tOkJB)

89 Let's base our economy on quatloos!

Yeah, that's the ticket.....

Posted by: Tex Lovera at January 27, 2013 06:14 AM (jaijr)

90 -
82 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1DsJ5YQr5s Posted by: HeatherRadish
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Are you trying to give us Morons Culture or something ?

Posted by: American Dawg at January 27, 2013 06:14 AM (trA4n)

91 Well duh, liberals hate coal.  If it's not "green energy" nonsense, they hate it.

Posted by: chemjeff at January 27, 2013 06:14 AM (BBWjt)

92 We lost because too many so-called conservatives listened to the MFM about the worthless non-debates. Too many on here as well. Then he shouldn't have gone to them. It's never successful to appear dumb during a campaign unless you are an effete marxist who can talk without a trace of Negro dialect.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at January 27, 2013 06:14 AM (uhAkr)

93 Another repeat from last thread:

So what is the Republican Party doing?   They put together a team to examine why they lost.  The team makeup in itself shows why they lost.  RINOs one and all.   But hey, letÂ’s add 30 million new Democrat voters to the rolls!

http://is.gd/tNrq8J


So no more power for you Morons!

Posted by: Vic at January 27, 2013 06:15 AM (53z96)

94 Ever notice how the liberal blogs don't seem to have purges?

At least, that's my impression.

And two main ones--LGF and RS--both have banned for the sin of being too conservative.

Posted by: RoyalOil at January 27, 2013 06:15 AM (imtbm)

95 -
91 Well duh, liberals hate coal. If it's not "green energy" nonsense, they hate it.
Posted by: chemjeff
------------------------------------------------
Lets paint coal Green , That should fool the idiots on the left...

Posted by: American Dawg at January 27, 2013 06:16 AM (trA4n)

96

How better else to put ALL of Appalachia on the dole, instead of just 60% of it?

 

Teacher: What does yore daddy do for a living, Johnny?

Johnny: He draws.

Teacher: Oh, my! He's an artist!

Johnny: No maam'. Daddy draws a welfare check.

 

Posted by: Cicero Kid at January 27, 2013 06:16 AM (m0v2L)

97 Really? Rick Perry decided to have back surgery and be hopped up on meds for kicks, eh? It doesn't seem like a good idea to go debate under the influence of drugs.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at January 27, 2013 06:16 AM (uhAkr)

98 Why oh why, and I already know the answer, does no one ask Barky,

What exactly is YOUR FUCKIN' PLAN?? On anything.
Tell us what it is. Tell us in detail. Please. Somebody ask. Get his answer. When he wavers from that answer CALL HIM OUT ON IT!!!

Posted by: Bruce at January 27, 2013 06:16 AM (dLOky)

99 95 American Dawg,

Maybe we can pretend that coal is Earth droppings.....

moonbats like bio mass so...

Posted by: sven10077 at January 27, 2013 06:17 AM (LRFds)

100 And guess who agreed to have the MFM host the debates?

Posted by: Vic at January 27, 2013 06:17 AM (53z96)

101 97 Bevel L,


works for me


//Barack Baby Doc Obama

Posted by: sven10077 at January 27, 2013 06:17 AM (LRFds)

102 Has anyone else here seen the documentary about the Commission on Presidential Debates? http://youtu.be/1NXhoP5bQ2M I haven't heard anything to disprove the allegations made in this film. The debates are rigged and have been since 1988 when the League of Women Voters stepped down. The questions are agreed to before hand, all of them. Either candidate can scuttle any question before hand, thus no questions about that Ben Ghazzi guy for the JEF

Posted by: Lurkasaurus at January 27, 2013 06:18 AM (kpSH/)

103 Are you trying to give us Morons Culture or something ?

The Requiem feels appropriate for the thread.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at January 27, 2013 06:18 AM (ZKzrr)

104 moonbats like bio mass so... Posted by: sven10077 at January 27, 2013 10:17 AM (LRFds) Um, I thought it was. Old highly compressed flora and fauna.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 27, 2013 06:18 AM (l86i3)

105

How better else to put ALL of Appalachia on the dole, instead of just 60% of it?

=============

There are earnings to be acquired in nefarious ways.

Posted by: Boyd Crowder at January 27, 2013 06:19 AM (QLJPW)

106 Hey guys can ask a question? Is Mary CLoggenstien for real? Or is she just some made up scrunt from the intellectual droppings of libtards you guys postoin here as some sort of inside joke? If she is real I be fliipping out!

Posted by: Judge_Roy_bean at January 27, 2013 06:19 AM (UmfGF)

107 104 OSP,

"shut up", they explained....



Posted by: sven10077 at January 27, 2013 06:19 AM (LRFds)

108 #53

The sex club bullshit almost certainly didn't happen. It was just courtroom nonsense in a fractious divorce case. I had an ex-SIL who made incredibly absurd claims in court that should have had spend a few days in a cell but the judge didn't even blink. It's just par for the course in divorce court.

Jeri Ryan owes us some serious porn while she still has her looks. Her perjury helped destroy the country and that is really all she has to offer in recompense.

Posted by: epobirs at January 27, 2013 06:19 AM (kcfmt)

109 Teacher: What does yore daddy do for a living, Johnny?

Pretty sure any mention of fathers would get a teacher fired anymore. Exclusionary, racist, etc.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at January 27, 2013 06:19 AM (ZKzrr)

110 Maybe we can pretend that coal is Earth droppings...

Coal actually IS carboniferous era biomass

Posted by: @PurpAv at January 27, 2013 06:20 AM (GlnE7)

111 105 Boyd Crowder,

just think.....you'll be able to get rich selling black market electricity Boyd!

//Dewey Crowe

Posted by: sven10077 at January 27, 2013 06:20 AM (LRFds)

112 But to the topic: The Democrat party--the party of "science"--seriously is made up of people who really believe the "80 mpg carburetor" and the "engine that runs on water" exist and would be on the market except for the evil oil companies buying the patent* and hiding it on a shelf somewhere.

* I know, I know, patents are public and anyone can see the entire process and copy it, like say, the Chinese. But, we're not dealing with smart, logical people here.

Posted by: RoyalOil at January 27, 2013 06:21 AM (imtbm)

113 106 Hey guys can ask a question? Is Mary CLoggenstien for real? Or is she just some made up scrunt from the intellectual droppings of libtards you guys postoin here as some sort of inside joke? She's fake. There may have been one long ago but now it's a running joke.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at January 27, 2013 06:21 AM (uhAkr)

114 110 Purp Av,

Hey you, you in the purple....don't use your mystic "science" shit on me I want unicorn skittles for ALL!

//Barky the Malficient

Posted by: sven10077 at January 27, 2013 06:21 AM (LRFds)

115 It doesn't seem like a good idea to go debate under the influence of drugs.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at January 27, 2013 10:16 AM (uhAkr)

 

 

 

If elections are decided solely by the debates then we need to stop sending our candidates to them.

Posted by: Cicero Kid at January 27, 2013 06:23 AM (m0v2L)

116 112 Royal Oil,


They are a bunch of magic thinking c*nts, and we should be focusing on ways to either profit from their stupidity or destroy their entire bloodlines.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 27, 2013 06:23 AM (LRFds)

117 What exactly is YOUR FUCKIN' PLAN?? On anything.
Tell us what it is. Tell us in detail. Please. Somebody ask. Get his answer. When he wavers from that answer CALL HIM OUT ON IT!!!
Posted by: Bruce at January 27, 2013 10:16 AM (dLOky)


Now, now, now, let's be fair.   He did have that 20 page booklet with 10 pages of pictures of Him in it. 

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Take us away. at January 27, 2013 06:23 AM (Gk3SS)

118 @ 112 Hey Mr Smarty pants RoyalOil! I gots that car that runs on water! Its called a boat!

Posted by: Judge_Roy_bean at January 27, 2013 06:23 AM (UmfGF)

119 The Requiem feels appropriate for the thread.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at January 27, 2013 10:18 AM (ZKzrr)

 

O Fortuna is the Doom theme song for me. My warped brain always wants to call it Oh For Tuna.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GD3VsesSBsw

 

 

Posted by: Invictus at January 27, 2013 06:24 AM (OQpzc)

120 117 AlexTheChick,

I er uh plan to uh ah uh ah smile a lot and act stern some uh other times....


//Barky-SCOAMF the Picture Book Extinction level Event edition

Posted by: sven10077 at January 27, 2013 06:24 AM (LRFds)

121

The Democrat party--the party of "science"...

 

Always cracks me up. Gather up a bunch of wiccans, crystal gazers, pyramid worshipers, (fill in w/any other Marin County/Sedona crackpottedness) and see how many are registered "R".

 

Posted by: Jess1 at January 27, 2013 06:25 AM (lbiWb)

122

If this irrational (insane?) fear of coal isn't incontrovertible proof that the Left has no interest in a real energy policy, but that they are simply trying to destroy America, then I give up.

 

Don't forget  that  Klownifornia's Central Valley, once a thriving farming area, is now a wasteland because of the EPA's insane stance that  some  fucking fish we can't  even eat is more  important than  feeding   humans.

 

The only reason we put up with this is,  um, well, actually, I don't know why we're putting up with this.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at January 27, 2013 06:26 AM (+z4pE)

123 Citing a General Service Administration (GSA) request for proposal (RFP), Steve McGough of RadioViceOnline.com reports that DHS is asking for the 7,000 “select-fire” firearms because they are “suitable for personal defense use in close quarters.” The term select-fire means the weapon can be both semi-automatic and automatic. Civilians are prohibited from obtaining these kinds of weapons. The RFP describes the firearm as “Personal Defense Weapon (PDW) – 5.56x45mm NATO, select-fire firearm suitable for personal defense use in close quarters and/or when maximum concealment is required.” Additionally, DHS is asking for 30 round magazines that “have a capacity to hold thirty (30) 5.56x45mm NATO rounds.”

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at January 27, 2013 06:27 AM (ZA2xI)

124 The Jean Genie loves chimney stacks

Posted by: Seven of Nine at January 27, 2013 06:27 AM (tdaam)

125 Thinking back on the agencies that Republicans have created, I'm starting to get the notion that it is a bad idea to elect Republican Presidents.
EPA, TSA, etc.

Anyway, Rick Perry is a retard not fit for office because he can't remember which agencies he'd shut down.

Posted by: RoyalOil at January 27, 2013 06:27 AM (imtbm)

126 Coal states need to oppose anything that benefits the Corn Mafia states.

Posted by: Invictus at January 27, 2013 06:28 AM (OQpzc)

127 122 Backwards Boy,

we put up with it because we think the old ways are coming back....

I think we need to weaponize envy in the other direction and get the gangbangers to start targeting donks and moonbat eco socialists for killing wealth so it can't even be spread.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 27, 2013 06:28 AM (LRFds)

128 The only reason we put up with this is, um, well, actually, I don't know why we're putting up with this.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at January 27, 2013 10:26 AM (+z4pE)


Because rich fucking judges who don't give a shit allow them to do it.

Posted by: KG at January 27, 2013 06:28 AM (IPz9m)

129

The only reason we put up with this is, um, well, actually, I don't know why we're putting up with this.

======

WE aren't but we have  feckless  "representation".

Posted by: USS Diversity at January 27, 2013 06:28 AM (QLJPW)

130

"The sex club bullshit almost certainly didn't happen. It was just courtroom nonsense in a fractious divorce case. I had an ex-SIL who made incredibly absurd claims in court that should have had spend a few days in a cell but the judge didn't even blink. It's just par for the course in divorce court."

Bingo. Divorce proceeding records are bizarre. HST on acid bizarre. Reality isn't part of the mix...

Posted by: Jess1 at January 27, 2013 06:29 AM (lbiWb)

131 125 Anyway, Rick Perry is a retard not fit for office because he can't remember which agencies he'd shut down. Posted by: RoyalOil at January 27, 2013 10:27 AM (imtbm) Not necessarily. There are so many damned tyrannical bureaucracies that even I would be hard pressed to remember them all. Just shows that Rick Perry is as dumbfounded as the rest of us. EPA would be the place to start, though.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 27, 2013 06:29 AM (XkWWK)

132 130 Jess1,

If only Michelle Dorn-Obama had taken the kids and gone back to Kronos....

rumor was Barky was gonna off himself.

Divorce gets wild trust me I've seen Dad do it enough

Posted by: sven10077 at January 27, 2013 06:30 AM (LRFds)

133 If elections are decided solely by the debates then we need to stop sending our candidates to them. Yes, they are stupid and GOP candidates need to divorce from them. But that doesn't mean they can't damage you if you perform badly when you show up. Consider 'Gardasil' and Bachmann. A lot of people concluded she was a loon after that. It's a part of campaigning. I don't think you should campaign if you are at risk of doing more harm than good.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at January 27, 2013 06:30 AM (uhAkr)

134 Anyway, what if the power company just told the government/EPA to go fuck themselves and run the plant anyway? Molon labe our coal, suckers.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 27, 2013 06:30 AM (XkWWK)

135 Well that's a cheerful read. Urge to smack the shit out of anyone who voted for this POS rising (even more.) Dammit, is it not clear as day that this shit isn't incompetent, but actively seeking to destroy rhe United States?!? And no, that isn't a conspiracy theory you leftist shits. Any other president would jump at the gift of the XL Pipeline, free jobs that he could take credit for...but not him. Tell me why? /rant off. Blood pressure getting too high.

Posted by: RWC at January 27, 2013 06:30 AM (sqp6o)

136 asking for 30 round magazines that “have a capacity to hold thirty (30) 5.56x45mm NATO rounds.”

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at January 27, 2013 10:27 AM (ZA2xI)

 

The .gov is making plans to fight a war on American soil. It ain't tin hat ground anymore. Of course, millions of civilians are making the same plans, so I think we are in for interesting times.

Posted by: Invictus at January 27, 2013 06:30 AM (OQpzc)

137 Exactly.

"Go along, get along" is going to destroy us (if it hasn't already).

Gloves off, confront every lie, never let anything slide. Attack, attack, attack.

Then we may win.
==============
No, no, no! say the "smart" conservatives like RS--we need to be happy warriors, we need to make conservative ideas fun.

The only people saying that are fucking idiots collecting a paycheck from the status quo.

Posted by: RoyalOil at January 27, 2013 06:31 AM (imtbm)

138 The .gov is making plans to fight a war on American soil. It ain't tin hat ground anymore. Of course, millions of civilians are making the same plans, so I think we are in for interesting times. Posted by: Invictus at January 27, 2013 10:30 AM (OQpzc) It will all boil down to how our kids in the Military and the National Guard react.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 27, 2013 06:32 AM (l86i3)

139 Well duh!! How else will "energy prices necessarily skyrocket"? Liberals hate coal (as someone mentioned earlier). Can't wait for the unintended consequence of them being unable to charge their "green" electric cars. Idiots!

Posted by: runningrn at January 27, 2013 06:32 AM (Ag5D2)

140 134 JJ Sefton,

If we had corporations half as ruthless as they are made out to be we would...

I'm tired of these passive aggressive whiny ass Unabomber terrotist dickheads shitting on themselves and getting their way, we should dare the feds to force us to starve and die of exposure.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 27, 2013 06:33 AM (LRFds)

141 It's a part of campaigning. I don't think you should campaign if you are at risk of doing more harm than good.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at January 27, 2013 10:30 AM (uhAkr)

 

She played Gardisil against Perry, and then crashed and burned on Tardisil. She got what she deserved.

Posted by: Invictus at January 27, 2013 06:33 AM (OQpzc)

142 Coal is quaint and Victorian

Posted by: occam at January 27, 2013 06:34 AM (blgNX)

143 The EPA has been slapped down for over-reaching.  Like the Sackett case and others.  The latest slap down is their high monetary fines on oil refineries for not using enough non food sourced ethanol in blends,  when enough isn't even in existence.  GOP needs to put pressure on Dem's Senators and members of Congress, especially if they are from states the Key. XL Pipeline is prevented by TFG and his eco-terriers at the EPA.

Would love it if Gov's of Keystone Pipeline states just said FU and started construction.  What would TFG do?  Shoot them? Go to war with the states?

Posted by: Deli LLama at January 27, 2013 06:34 AM (lGu1O)

144 What exactly is YOUR FUCKIN' PLAN?? On anything.

me me me me me me me me me me me me me!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: algae at January 27, 2013 06:34 AM (BBWjt)

145 141 Gigg,

they did....look we pointed it out in 2008, Limbaugh alternative media, twitter commandos, fact is the fucking retards in Free Shit Army do not give a fuck.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 27, 2013 06:35 AM (LRFds)

146 143 occam,

so you're on "WINNING!"team their occtard....do you have the patent for the balonium Q-36 Skittle modulator?

Posted by: sven10077 at January 27, 2013 06:36 AM (LRFds)

147

Meanwhile DC insiders have made a financial killing in a natural gas boom which has been going on for a year.They tell us to invest in solar and wind while they invest in real energy.

Posted by: Bjarf at January 27, 2013 06:36 AM (8GoCV)

148

Anyway, what if the power company just told the government/EPA to go fuck themselves and run the plant anyway?

Molon labe our coal, suckers.

 

If Ahhnuld had had the beginnings of a pimple of a testicle, he'd have  taken some NatGuard troops to the CV  water  pumping  stations and turned the water on, then dared the  feds to do something about it.

 

I'd have done it. Just  imagine  how popular   someone would be for standing up for liberty. And food.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at January 27, 2013 06:37 AM (+z4pE)

149

If you delve into the logic of the left, it's easy to see why they want to destroy  the coal industry.  For them, coal is "dirty" because it releases evil "carbon" into the atmosphere in the form of CO2.  And CO2 is bad because: Global Warming!

Many of the objectives of the left can be understood when you realize their utter and total belief in  anthropogenic global warming.

Why the push for green energy?  Because coal has to go away since it promotes global warming.

The irony is that as the world slowly opens it's eyes to the scam that is global warming, Obama and the left in the USA are still embracing it and formulating policy around this belief.  And it is, at this point, simply a belief system that fells good to them.

Posted by: Marmo at January 27, 2013 06:37 AM (pcgW1)

150 No, no, no! say the "smart" conservatives like RS--we need to be happy warriors, we need to make conservative ideas fun. Posted by: RoyalOil at January 27, 2013 10:31 AM (imtbm Don't know who 'RS' is, but I always though 'happy warrior' meant smiling while you're sticking the knife in and twisting. Kind of like what Ben Shapiro and Dana Loesch did to Piss Morgan. Laugh at them, ridicule them, and smash them with facts.

Posted by: RWC at January 27, 2013 06:38 AM (sqp6o)

151 148 BJarf,

Yeah I figure the plan is they are going to willfully destroy the economy picking winners and losers based on political connections then after they have 30 million guys named Juan to fuck us forever they will tell the granola warriors to fuck off....

that is th "best case" that we have Chicagocrat as baseline US operating procedure....

the worsening cases are not easily contemplated.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 27, 2013 06:39 AM (LRFds)

152

It will all boil down to how our kids in the Military and the National Guard react.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon.

 

You'd think the poor bastards would be tired of fighting wars with no front lines by now.

Posted by: Invictus at January 27, 2013 06:39 AM (OQpzc)

153 Why the push for green energy? Because coal has to go away since it promotes global warming.

Actually it is deeper than that.  They want coal to go away because of their blind belief in AGW, but they so blindly believe in AGW because of their irrational conviction that human beings are a plague on Mother Gaia.  They really are anti-human.  Like Andy (?) posted the other day, scratch a greenie, get a Malthusian.

Posted by: chemjeff at January 27, 2013 06:39 AM (BBWjt)

154 40 The EPA and the evironmentalists are trying to shut down the Navajo Generating Station in Page, AZ. The power plant employs almost all Navajos, the main coal supplier provides 1000 jobs to the Navajo Nation. The unemployment rate for Navajos is 50%. Yet the Navajos vote exclusively Democrat. The Sierra Club and others claim the plant creates pollution and haze over the Grand Canyon. This plant sends most of it's power to Los Angeles. If Red man could get ahead man...

Posted by: The Honorable Esteemed Holy Reverend Lowry at January 27, 2013 06:40 AM (Ag5D2)

155 Can't wait for the unintended consequence of them being unable to charge their "green" electric cars.

Pyongyang always has lights. 

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at January 27, 2013 06:40 AM (ZKzrr)

156 Anyway, what if the power company just told the government/EPA to go fuck themselves and run the plant anyway?
==============
I'll take "Things only leftists can do" for $2,000, Alex.

Posted by: RoyalOil at January 27, 2013 06:41 AM (imtbm)

157 All our politicians are just con men these days.

Posted by: Invictus at January 27, 2013 06:41 AM (OQpzc)

158 156 Heather Radish,

that's right what's going to happen is we're going to get starved of power not Obamacles....

you want to live in District 1....


Posted by: sven10077 at January 27, 2013 06:41 AM (LRFds)

159 134Anyway, what if the power company just told the government/EPA to go fuck themselves and run the plant anyway?

Molon labe our coal, suckers.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 27, 2013 10:30 AM (XkWWK)

 

 

It's going to be the State's responsibility to act. The state is going to have to act in behalf of it's citizenry.

 

Posted by: Cicero Kid at January 27, 2013 06:41 AM (m0v2L)

160 >>"Go along, get along" is going to destroy us (if it hasn't already).
Gloves off, confront every lie, never let anything slide. Attack, attack, attack.
Then we may win.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 27, 2013 10:05 AM (GsoHv)


Sign me up.

I don't have any idea what the GOP thinks that they are avoiding by not having a confrontational media campaign, an MFM beatdown?

Talk about delusional.
These are Frankfurt School Marxists that they're dealing with.

They either have battered wives syndrome or are corrupt cowards, but the traditional GOP consultants that think that playing nice gets them anything need to be shitcanned like yesterday.

Posted by: ontherocks at January 27, 2013 06:42 AM (aZ6ew)

161 Just insanity that people cannot see past next months EBT.

Posted by: gigg at January 27, 2013 10:40 AM (dDD3H)

People who are on EBT, by definition, cannot see past the next month....

Posted by: KG at January 27, 2013 06:42 AM (IPz9m)

162 Here's the flipside: Kucinich was on one of the Fox financial shows yesterday and they were talking about green subsidies and of course, "let the market dictate." So Kucinich is like "Why doesn't Wall Street invest in nuclear? Nuclear is good right?" Here's your answer. "Hey, I've got a hotdog stand that sells hotdogs that increase your johnson size by 50%. Wanna invest? Oh btw, the EPA is gonna need 3 billion up front." Idiots all.

Posted by: Opus An Arcus at January 27, 2013 06:42 AM (wq2GL)

163 157 gigg,

why would they give a fuck beyond next month's ebt?

They have been indoctrinated that Capitalism is why they are on EBT....

nobody makes the case in Free Shit Army understandable form anymore that minimum wage fucks the working poor, who makes the case that EPA is actively ad knowingly destroying food, energy, and jobs?

The right needs to go into insurgent shit stirrer mode if the party will not fight....

the neo-Malthusians are NOT free shit army's friend.....

who will stand the rocks and arrows to point that out?

Posted by: sven10077 at January 27, 2013 06:44 AM (LRFds)

164 103 Are you trying to give us Morons Culture or something ? The Requiem feels appropriate for the thread. Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at January 27, 2013 10:18 AM (ZKzrr) I'm listening. I have it playing in another tab.

Posted by: rickl at January 27, 2013 06:44 AM (sdi6R)

165 O/T: Here comes immigration reform, people!  But don't worry, John McCain is on the job protecting our interests.

http://tinyurl.com/b3aw4fx

IOW: BOHICA

Posted by: chemjeff at January 27, 2013 06:45 AM (BBWjt)

166 #154 ChemJeff

That's a good point.  I remember seeing a Kurt Vonnegut interview before he died, and he basically said that humans should be exterminated to save Gaia.  We hear similar things from some of the craziest lefties still.

Posted by: Marmo at January 27, 2013 06:45 AM (pcgW1)

167

I still contend the FSA did not in and of itself win this election. They had millions of  otherwise normal people voting for this cult of personality. Throw in some fraud and it was in the bag.

 

Do you think he'd have kept Joke Biden around if he didn't think it was a lock?

Posted by: USS Diversity at January 27, 2013 06:45 AM (QLJPW)

168 164 gigg,

really?

Lot of out of work soldiers in the making.....

a company with balls ought to hire GIs with big smiles and licensed to carry auto weapons "for security"

Posted by: sven10077 at January 27, 2013 06:45 AM (LRFds)

169 traditional GOP consultants that think that playing nice gets them anything need to be shitcanned like yesterday.

Posted by: ontherocks at January 27, 2013 10:42 AM (aZ6ew)

 

It gets their kids and wives lobbyist jobs. It gets them and their relatives slots on company boards. It is all about the money. They don't give a shit about us.

Posted by: Invictus at January 27, 2013 06:46 AM (OQpzc)

170 Hey you guys will Love this. My daughter is Chinese and studying for her citizenship test. I asked her if she knew the meaning of Presidents day. She said "Don't be silly Daddy, everyone knows that!" I asked her to please elucidate. She said "That's when Obama comes out of the White House and looks all around on the lawn. If he see's his shadow that means 4 more years of a tanked economy and double digit unemployment!" I had to laugh. I don't know if she will pass the citizen ship test, but she has a good grasp of the current executive branch.

Posted by: Judge_Roy_bean at January 27, 2013 06:46 AM (R9rNC)

171 The EPA and the evironmentalists are trying to shut
down the Navajo Generating Station in Page, AZ. The power plant employs almost all Navajos, the main coal supplier provides 1000 jobs to the Navajo Nation. The unemployment rate for Navajos is 50%. Yet the Navajos vote exclusively Democrat. The Sierra Club and others claim the plant creates pollution and haze over the Grand Canyon. This plant sends most of it's power to Los Angeles.


You assume that 50% want a job instead of free shit.

Posted by: Vic at January 27, 2013 06:46 AM (53z96)

172 It's not their belief on Global Warming/Climate Change that drives their actions. It's C O N T R O L. GW/CC is just a convenient tale they latched on to. If not that, they would have come up with something else to drive the rubes emotions and get them on their side.

Posted by: RWC at January 27, 2013 06:47 AM (sqp6o)

173 Don't know who 'RS' is, but I always though 'happy warrior' meant smiling while you're sticking the knife in and twisting. Kind of like what Ben Shapiro and Dana Loesch did to Piss Morgan. Laugh at them, ridicule them, and smash them with facts.
===========
RS = RedState/Eric Erickson

No, the "happy warrior" they want  is a myth of Reagan, that Reagan was so effective because he was so cheerful compared to the Dems.

The real Reagan was more like you described, the "happy" part came from the joy of gutting the Dems like a fish.

And that type of "happy" gives people like RS the vapors. No, they want happy like, "Just walking along, singing a song, la de da da."

Posted by: RoyalOil at January 27, 2013 06:48 AM (imtbm)

174 TFG's view of humanity - 'All you Earth people are stupid!'

And only his brilliance can save the humans he views as worthy.  The peons are not worthy.  Only those who kiss his ring and praise him are worthy.

Alas it is the peons who keep him warm and hooked to his Blackberry. 

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 27, 2013 06:48 AM (shmgt)

175 -
167 103 Are you trying to give us Morons Culture or something ?

The Requiem feels appropriate for the thread.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at January 27, 2013 10:18 AM (ZKzrr)

I'm listening. I have it playing in another tab. Posted by: rickl
=========================================
I'm listening also, but finding it difficult to dance to...

Posted by: American Dawg at January 27, 2013 06:49 AM (trA4n)

176 Here is MS we had a new coal fired plant planned, using a low grade coal from MS and a plan to capture almost all the CO2 emitted.
 
It was cancelled last year. In fact, there have been tons of new coal plant cancellations, mostly since 2008:
 
http://tinyurl.com/4uc55sk (SourceWatch)
 
It's a looong list.

Posted by: GnuBreed at January 27, 2013 06:49 AM (ccXZP)

177 IOW: BOHICA

Posted by: chemjeff at January 27, 2013 10:45 AM (BBWjt)

 

This is betrayal. The social contract was broken when not only did the federal government refuse to protect the borders from invasion, but moved to forbid the states from protecting themselves. The government became a collaborator to invasion.

Posted by: Invictus at January 27, 2013 06:49 AM (OQpzc)

178 So Kucinich is like "Why doesn't Wall Street invest in nuclear? Nuclear is good right?"

so let's review... people like Kucinich create 10 million roadblocks and hurdles for starting up a nuclear power plant, along with creating a nationwide fear campaign that having a nuclear power plant within 100 miles of your home means that you are going to have children with 14 toes... all of this means that any private investment in nuclear power will (a) have a very very long horizon on when returns may be expected, and (b) be demonized by liberal pressure groups as being "pro-radiation" and "pro-death". 

And then Kucinich wonders why the private sector doesn't do more to support nuclear power, twisting conservatives' arguments against us, with snide claims like "if it's SO GREAT, why doesn't that magic free market that you all SO LOVE provide all the money?  HUH???  It must be that nuclear power SUCKS and the only reason you support it is because you're an ideological right-wing pro-corporate anti-planet environment-hating wingnut!!!!!!"

le sigh

Posted by: chemjeff at January 27, 2013 06:51 AM (BBWjt)

179

#177 Anna Puma

TFG's view of humanity - 'All you Earth people are stupid!'

Sadly, TFG doesn't realize that he is one of the people of Earth.

Posted by: Marmo at January 27, 2013 06:51 AM (pcgW1)

180 157     >>>Just insanity that people cannot see past next months EBT.
More typical than insane. For most people the long term good of the country falls into the "Big Ideas" category. I can't help but to give the left props for appreciating that most people don't give a shit about Big Ideas when there's enough free shit up for grabs to let them subsist in relative comfort without effort.

Posted by: kartoffel at January 27, 2013 06:51 AM (OgNv0)

181 There are four types of people who lover them some AGW

1.  Communist politicians who want more tax and spend.
2. Communist greens who want some more tax and spend
3. Communist anarchy greens who want to burn it down.
4. Communist idiots who actually believe the scam.


So what do they all have in common?

Posted by: Vic at January 27, 2013 06:51 AM (53z96)

182 "It's C O N T R O L" This!! This!! 100K freaking times This!! These people are children of their father the devil!

Posted by: teej at January 27, 2013 06:52 AM (yrHcy)

183 181 ChemJeff,

It is why the gender bending head of EPA should have been a scandal but the Lock Step media never let it be....

I do not see a way to force the media to be honest without our having to be willing to intimidate some folks....

and way too many on our side are hesitant to play even Nixonian level hard ball...

Posted by: sven10077 at January 27, 2013 06:52 AM (LRFds)

184 183 kartoffel,

which brings us back to "prepare for impact" and then do everything in our power to destroy the economy too....

if we don't make it they can't take it.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 27, 2013 06:54 AM (LRFds)

185 Basically, the Left has replaced the vacuum in their lives created by their godlessness with the religion of man made global warming. They need to believe in something bigger than themselves and an entity to worship (the earth). They sneeringly deny the existence of our Creator while they sacrifice and bow down to His creation. They scoff at "intolerant, religious wing nuts who bitterly cling to their Bibles" while they themselves refuse to acknowledge that the scientific basis for Darwinism is flawed (violates the second law of thermodynamics), and the "science" of AGW is fraudulent. They gave rejected the truth and God for a pseudoscience that makes them feel better when they shop with reusable grocery bags, recycle, and drive their smug mobiles. The Green movement is essentially a cult of brainwashed morons who love the earth and despise people. It is an opiate for the masses.

Posted by: runningrn at January 27, 2013 06:54 AM (Ag5D2)

186 On the bright side, higher food and fuel costs mean the proles can't afford ammo. So they've got that going for them.

Posted by: Invictus at January 27, 2013 06:54 AM (OQpzc)

187 I have to come clean. I was hypnotised a bit too. I voted for newt in the primaries (Perry was fumbling horribly at that point, and i think he actually dropped out)


I also voted for Newt because Perry dropped out before the SC primary.  Newt was the lesser of the evil choices.


And if they don't change at least the order of the primaries this next time I will be voting 3rd Party.

Posted by: Vic at January 27, 2013 06:55 AM (53z96)

188 It's rhetorical but how in the hell did this fucking guy get elected again?

Posted by: Dave C at January 27, 2013 06:55 AM (q7fcl)

189 runningrn AMEN

Posted by: chemjeff at January 27, 2013 06:56 AM (BBWjt)

190 Slightly related:

So I was thinking the other night, what would a conservative version of a "community organizer" be?

Posted by: chemjeff at January 27, 2013 06:57 AM (BBWjt)

191 196 ChemJeff,

A combination of Milton Friedman, Jack kemp, and the horde....

no I am not joking.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 27, 2013 06:57 AM (LRFds)

192 It's rhetorical but how in the hell did this fucking guy get elected again?

Posted by: Dave C at January 27, 2013 10:55 AM (q7fcl)

 

State controlled media. And people are dumbasses. And the Rs won't raise taxes to match spending. The proles really do believe wealth comes from a printing press because it has for the last 30 years.

Posted by: Invictus at January 27, 2013 06:57 AM (OQpzc)

193 You got to vote for someone, wow. VA pubs locked up this State and all we had were Mitt and Luap Nor.

Posted by: Jean at January 27, 2013 06:58 AM (uPUrh)

194 We knew that the primary system was broken in 2008, but the Republican Party did exactly nothing to fix it for 2012. I saw a list somewhere that showed that in 2012, the primaries were heavily front-loaded with blue states and open-primary states. Which was the same in 2008.

Posted by: rickl at January 27, 2013 06:58 AM (sdi6R)

195 185 "It's C O N T R O L"

This!! This!! 100K freaking times This!!

These people are children of their father the devil!

Posted by: teej at January 27, 2013 10:52 AM (yrHcy)
--- --- --- --- --- ---

And people want control because they think they know better than everyone else how things should be run.  They above anyone else, can make things better.  This time it will work, because now the world has me!

Sound familiar?  That's basically what TFG said during the last campaign.

Posted by: Marmo at January 27, 2013 06:58 AM (pcgW1)

196 Another amen from the amen corner runningrn!

Posted by: teej at January 27, 2013 06:58 AM (yrHcy)

197 what would a conservative version of a "community organizer" be?

Going to depend on your definition of "community organizer" but I'm pretty sure there is no conservative equivalent to "stir up a bunch of shit to funnel sweet gov't largesse to your friends and benefactors, making sure to leave whatever you're agitating unsolved so you have a perpetual supply of useful idiots to keep the loot coming."

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at January 27, 2013 06:59 AM (ZKzrr)

198 157 146 Whats messed up is there are still democrat politicians in wes virginia and KY. To me that just does not make sense. I do not see how this party has not been run out of some states on a pole. With his attacks on offshore drilling the democrats should have been run out of Louisiana. But they still have some democrat polls running around spewing nonsense. Just insanity that people cannot see past next months EBT. Bush's fault! Democrats have nothing to do with the failed policies of the last 12 years...

Posted by: runningrn at January 27, 2013 06:59 AM (Ag5D2)

199 @ 113, Bevel...I knew it! No one could be that stupid. With that said, I wasn't sure. I reply/debate scrunts like that everyday on various venues saying the craziest things..like: "We need to ban guns and make gun free zones so our kids don't get shot." "Why can't you teabaggers accept that Barrack won in a landslide. Your are just racist." "We need to reform the immigration system, and let our poor Spanish brothers who snuck into the US, while violating our laws enjoy freedom. " God, it's a full time yet oddly enjoyable job setting these idiots straight!

Posted by: Judge_Roy_bean at January 27, 2013 07:00 AM (R9rNC)

200 GE was going for clean coal gasification technology a few years ago. I'm waiting for Jeff Immelt's outraged condemnation of TFG destroying the industry outright.

cue the cricket orchestra ...

Posted by: Rule #2 at January 27, 2013 07:00 AM (CypDC)

201 196 Slightly related:
So I was thinking the other night, what would a conservative version of a "community organizer" be?
Posted by: chemjeff
--------------------------------------------------
Anyone with commonsense....
That believes in GOD , Family , Guns....

Posted by: American Dawg at January 27, 2013 07:00 AM (trA4n)

202 i voted for perry even though he had already dropped out....

Posted by: phoenixgirl waiting for spring training at January 27, 2013 07:00 AM (GVxQo)

203 199 Gigg,

in part...

what needs to happen is we need to start using Junior Achievement and Merit grants for start up capital that are as "non partisan" as the AGW clult's presentations are....

the case needs to made about interlocking and competing mutual self-interest, the nature of wealth creation, we need to reromanticize inventors and tinkers....

there is a lot of cultural underground insurgent agitating needing done.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 27, 2013 07:00 AM (LRFds)

204 203 Another amen from the amen corner runningrn! Hey, Buddy! How goes it? How's the job hunting? I hope you are ok!

Posted by: runningrn at January 27, 2013 07:01 AM (Ag5D2)

205 And people want control because they think they know better than everyone else how things should be run.

And other people want to be controlled, because freedom is hard work.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at January 27, 2013 07:01 AM (ZKzrr)

206 @205  Hmmm.  The best type of conservative community organizer would stir the FSA up by attacking union heads as people who were getting more than their "fair share" and were therefore keeping the FSA from getting even MORE free stuff.

Posted by: Miss Marple at January 27, 2013 07:01 AM (GoIUi)

207

Remember that ugly zombie R establishment, northeastern country club R scrunt who said "they" had already picked the nominee?

 

Seems she was right.

Posted by: Invictus at January 27, 2013 07:01 AM (OQpzc)

208

203Another amen from the amen corner runningrn!

 

 

x100. I just marked Feb 2, 'president's day'.

Posted by: Cicero Kid at January 27, 2013 07:01 AM (m0v2L)

209 210 i voted for perry even though he had already dropped out.... Hubby and I did too.

Posted by: runningrn at January 27, 2013 07:02 AM (Ag5D2)

210

  The Green movement is essentially a cult of brainwashed morons who love the earth and despise people. It is an opiate for the masses.

 

Yup. It's  comprised   of people who have been mislead on purpose to look outside themselves for a god to worship: if it's not Gaia, its TFG.

 

Notice how  having a good conscience and using common sense are not involved.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at January 27, 2013 07:02 AM (+z4pE)

211 205 Ms Radish,

Maybe, then again if you point out the real economic costs of their retardation while providing aid and teaching the bastards....?

What if we built a small construction company like I was on about the other day in several blue state shitholes and had a team of lawyers ready to lawfare the motherfuckers when they tries to shake us down?

Posted by: sven10077 at January 27, 2013 07:03 AM (LRFds)

212 I don't know Marmo. I think they want the control simply because they are drunk on the thought of power and riches for themselves and are willing to do anything to gain it and hold it. Goes way back to the first beguiling lie.

Posted by: teej at January 27, 2013 07:04 AM (yrHcy)

213 Saw Perry at the Austin walk for life yesterday. He ain't backing up any.

Posted by: Invictus at January 27, 2013 07:04 AM (OQpzc)

214 214 Miss Marple,

that too....

the CIA had an operation it ran in its early days called "Rollback" it was based on pointing out the lies and inefficiency of the commies at delivering free shit

Posted by: sven10077 at January 27, 2013 07:04 AM (LRFds)

215 916 Slightly related:

So I was thinking the other night, what would a conservative version of a "community organizer" be?

Posted by: chemjeff at January 27, 2013 10:57 AM (BBWjt)

I've been thinking about this, too.  The problem is that community organizing is somewhat antithetical to a conservative mindset.  Conservatives want smaller government and want it out of their lives.  Community organizers basically create victim groups that demand the government give them something for being wronged.

We need a better organized, national level TEA Party-like organization that has the power for activism, and that can promote good political candidates.

Posted by: Marmo at January 27, 2013 07:04 AM (pcgW1)

216 223 marmo,

the Alinsky model is designed to empower commie cocksuckers.....

you Tea Party model or an insurgent GOP Alinsky wing is simply the demonization of the rising power brokers....

it is as simple as "fuckhead 1 is greedy" at its rawest simple destructive mode, and can be as complex as Friedman's "On Freedom" series of lectures...

Posted by: sven10077 at January 27, 2013 07:07 AM (LRFds)

217 book thread is up

Posted by: Vic at January 27, 2013 07:07 AM (53z96)

218 There is good news:  We have four more years of Barky.

Plus, contraceptives are free, so we have that going for us...

Posted by: badanov at January 27, 2013 07:07 AM (aDb5n)

219 the Navajo Nation needs to adopt a 'casino strategy' on the power plants. Run them as a sovereign nation under their own rules. Fuck the White Devils EPA.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at January 27, 2013 07:07 AM (l3vZN)

220 Conservatives and libertarians don't generally produce community organizer types. We don't see much value in convincing people they should be feeling aggrieved and setting them against their countrymen. We do produce responsible, productive citizens, and inspiring the wrath of these people will get you into far more trouble than an army of community organizers could ever dream of.

Posted by: kartoffel at January 27, 2013 07:08 AM (OgNv0)

221 226 badanov,

yes sir...

they really want a planet with 90 million people on it...

we ain't invited gang

Posted by: sven10077 at January 27, 2013 07:08 AM (LRFds)

222
#226

Don't forget the awesome free health care!

Posted by: Marmo at January 27, 2013 07:09 AM (pcgW1)

223 kartoffel

That is why I am saying we either fight or not...but I fear we won't because of the paradigm pointed out about Rearden for so long in Atlas Shrugged

"we can make THIS WORK I CAN CARRY THEM!

is our baseline operating mindset....

we need to shrug

Posted by: sven10077 at January 27, 2013 07:10 AM (LRFds)

224 I too voted for Newt in the primary, though by that point it (and he) was pretty much a lost cause. Le Sigh.
 
Oh, more good news for northeastern fishermen -- you're out of business. Cod and pollack harvest levels have been set so low this year that there is no way to make money at it.
 
There are so many regulations in place now on Gulf Coast seafood that the fishermen here too will soon be unable to go out at all.

Posted by: GnuBreed at January 27, 2013 07:10 AM (ccXZP)

225 916 Slightly related:
So I was thinking the other night, what would a conservative version of a "community organizer" be?
Posted by: chemjeff at January 27, 2013 10:57 AM (BBWjt)



Paul Revere

Posted by: ontherocks at January 27, 2013 07:11 AM (aZ6ew)

226 134 Anyway, what if the power company just told the government/EPA to go fuck themselves and run the plant anyway? Molon labe our coal, suckers. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 27, 2013 10:30 Because of the prospect of 3am visits to coal company management's homes from an EPA swat team in Black Marias.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 27, 2013 07:11 AM (MBqvE)

227 Yeah small business owners are the real "community organizers", I know, but it is not obvious to most people.  Hell, people walk into an Applebee's (or whatever) and half the time they don't realize it is usually a franchise owned by some local business owner, and not just some faceless "mega corporation".  How do we get people to see this?  I don't know.

Posted by: chemjeff at January 27, 2013 07:11 AM (BBWjt)

228 152 It will all boil down to how our kids in the Military and the National Guard react. Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. You'd think the poor bastards would be tired of fighting wars with no front lines by now. Posted by: Invictus at January 27, 2013 10:39 AM (OQpzc) Or really good at it.

Posted by: Jean at January 27, 2013 07:12 AM (XwDPQ)

229 233 Gnu Breed,

which is the design....

like I said at best they are setting up the basis for corruption and Chicago Way bullshit, and at worst they are willfully destroying our economy to force us to go Red as in commie not GOP

Posted by: sven10077 at January 27, 2013 07:12 AM (LRFds)

230 I'm okay runningrn. The job hunting sucks. How do you get past a HR dept who won't even look at an application for a lab tech job if you don't have an associates degree. Like an associates degree and little experience is worth more than 10 yrs lab experience. Kind taught BA's how to do their job fer cryin' out loud.

Posted by: teej at January 27, 2013 07:13 AM (Op+RR)

231 235 ITC,

Yeah well if there were a neo version of the minutemen....

"we're gonna need more guys..."

//EPA Gestapo

Posted by: sven10077 at January 27, 2013 07:13 AM (LRFds)

232 We need a powerful system of shaming,  and  make it non-politically correct.

"Oh, you're on welfare?  Are you looking for work,  or are you a miserable parasite?"

Don't support any  businesses  owned by lefties if it's possible. 

Posted by: Marmo at January 27, 2013 07:13 AM (pcgW1)

233 ITC, "Because of the prospect of 3am visits to coal company management's homes from an EPA swat team in Black Marias." Those mineral guys, all know how to hire "security consultants" for their third world operations. That it not end so well for the EPA guys.

Posted by: Jean at January 27, 2013 07:14 AM (XwDPQ)

234 Gun grabber company alert;

GEICO cancels insurance because policyholder works in the 'weapons industry'

http://tinyurl.com/attfa3b

Posted by: kbdabear at January 27, 2013 07:14 AM (wwsoB)

235 242 Jean,

Yup....if the left want the US to go third world then the right needs to show them third world

Posted by: sven10077 at January 27, 2013 07:16 AM (LRFds)

236 242 Jean,

Yup....if the left want the US to go third world then the right needs to show them third world

Posted by: sven10077 at January 27, 2013 07:16 AM (LRFds)

237 242 Jean,

Yup....if the left want the US to go third world then the right needs to show them third world

Posted by: sven10077 at January 27, 2013 07:16 AM (LRFds)

238 25% cut by 2020 not possible as fossil fuels replace energy from idled nuclear reactors Japan will drop its pledge to the global community to cut greenhouse gas emissions 25 percent by 2020 because of the countryÂ’s reduced future reliance on nuclear power, Prime Minister Shinzo Abe told a government panel Friday.

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at January 27, 2013 07:17 AM (m4AUe)

239 25% cut by 2020 not possible as fossil fuels replace energy from idled nuclear reactors Japan will drop its pledge to the global community to cut greenhouse gas emissions 25 percent by 2020 because of the countryÂ’s reduced future reliance on nuclear power, Prime Minister Shinzo Abe told a government panel Friday.

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at January 27, 2013 07:17 AM (m4AUe)

240 25% cut by 2020 not possible as fossil fuels replace energy from idled nuclear reactors Japan will drop its pledge to the global community to cut greenhouse gas emissions 25 percent by 2020 because of the countryÂ’s reduced future reliance on nuclear power, Prime Minister Shinzo Abe told a government panel Friday.

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at January 27, 2013 07:17 AM (m4AUe)

241 243 KBDaBear,

Yup...fascists....

if only we had lawyers ready to pro bono their asses  for damages....?

The right needs to go lawfare and show that the state mandating insurance and then the insurance companies playing games on lifestyle is slavery.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 27, 2013 07:17 AM (LRFds)

242 243 KBDaBear,

Yup...fascists....

if only we had lawyers ready to pro bono their asses  for damages....?

The right needs to go lawfare and show that the state mandating insurance and then the insurance companies playing games on lifestyle is slavery.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 27, 2013 07:17 AM (LRFds)

243 243 KBDaBear,

Yup...fascists....

if only we had lawyers ready to pro bono their asses  for damages....?

The right needs to go lawfare and show that the state mandating insurance and then the insurance companies playing games on lifestyle is slavery.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 27, 2013 07:17 AM (LRFds)

244 This sounds like an opportunity for someone to investigate the infrastructure, logistics, and sources of generation in the D.C. area.  Coal?  Mostly likely natural gas, but certainly not Green.     It's time to open the doors/books on Boomtown and share the fucking pain.

Posted by: Fritz at January 27, 2013 07:17 AM (WM+rJ)

245 This sounds like an opportunity for someone to investigate the infrastructure, logistics, and sources of generation in the D.C. area.  Coal?  Mostly likely natural gas, but certainly not Green.     It's time to open the doors/books on Boomtown and share the fucking pain.

Posted by: Fritz at January 27, 2013 07:17 AM (WM+rJ)

246 This sounds like an opportunity for someone to investigate the infrastructure, logistics, and sources of generation in the D.C. area.  Coal?  Mostly likely natural gas, but certainly not Green.     It's time to open the doors/books on Boomtown and share the fucking pain.

Posted by: Fritz at January 27, 2013 07:17 AM (WM+rJ)

247 Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at January 27, 2013 10:59 AM (ZKzrr)

yeah I know that is the liberal "community organizer" but a conservative one would have to be something different.

BTW - it's 5:00 somewhere.  Just sayin'.

Posted by: Marmo at January 27, 2013 11:04 AM (pcgW1)

But that is part of the problem that I think we are suffering from - we are expecting a leader to come lead and save us from creeping galloping socialism, when it ought to be the other way around - we ought to be the ones putting our choice of leader up front.  I think part of the reason why the 2012 primaries turned into a 3-ring circus was because, in reality, NOBODY liked ANY of the candidates to a deep, sincere degree.  Compare that to the Cult of Obama.

Posted by: chemjeff at January 27, 2013 07:17 AM (BBWjt)

248 Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at January 27, 2013 10:59 AM (ZKzrr)

yeah I know that is the liberal "community organizer" but a conservative one would have to be something different.

BTW - it's 5:00 somewhere.  Just sayin'.

Posted by: Marmo at January 27, 2013 11:04 AM (pcgW1)

But that is part of the problem that I think we are suffering from - we are expecting a leader to come lead and save us from creeping galloping socialism, when it ought to be the other way around - we ought to be the ones putting our choice of leader up front.  I think part of the reason why the 2012 primaries turned into a 3-ring circus was because, in reality, NOBODY liked ANY of the candidates to a deep, sincere degree.  Compare that to the Cult of Obama.

Posted by: chemjeff at January 27, 2013 07:17 AM (BBWjt)

249 Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at January 27, 2013 10:59 AM (ZKzrr)

yeah I know that is the liberal "community organizer" but a conservative one would have to be something different.

BTW - it's 5:00 somewhere.  Just sayin'.

Posted by: Marmo at January 27, 2013 11:04 AM (pcgW1)

But that is part of the problem that I think we are suffering from - we are expecting a leader to come lead and save us from creeping galloping socialism, when it ought to be the other way around - we ought to be the ones putting our choice of leader up front.  I think part of the reason why the 2012 primaries turned into a 3-ring circus was because, in reality, NOBODY liked ANY of the candidates to a deep, sincere degree.  Compare that to the Cult of Obama.

Posted by: chemjeff at January 27, 2013 07:17 AM (BBWjt)

250 Don't support any businesses owned by lefties if it's possible.

Yes, that's a good first step.  It would be nice if there were some sort of database on conservative-friendly businesses.

Posted by: chemjeff at January 27, 2013 07:18 AM (BBWjt)

251 214 @205 Hmmm. The best type of conservative community organizer would stir the FSA up by attacking union heads as people who were getting more than their "fair share" and were therefore keeping the FSA from getting even MORE free stuff. Yes, and continuously beat the drum about all the filthy, stinking rich Democrats in government that have gotten rich through their connections with big banks and predatory lending (Mr. Maxine Waters), preventing their employees from unionizing (Mr. Nancy Pelosi), etc., etc. They could reveal all the Democrat politicians and their family members and friends who got chunks of stimulus money, sit on boards of big businesses, receive pork and special exemptions from regulation, kickbacks, cronyism, insider trading etc. Shine a light on all the corruption and malfeasance that is occurring in the Democrat party and robbing their constituents of Obama Bucks because some of his sweet stash is lining the pockets of Harry Reid, the Clintons, Al Gore etc. The conservative community organizer can start plastering pictures of the palatial estates and vacation properties of Democrats all over bus stops, billboards, tv commercials etc. Gin up class warfare between the Democrat politicians and their entitled mooching voters. Pictures of John Kerry's yacht, luxury vehicles, Theresa in her designer clothes sipping Crystal champagne. If politicians are ostensibly "working" for the people who got them elected, why shouldn't those voters be entitled to some of that swag too? Why should welfare queens be content to live in housing projects when people like the Pelosis, Kerrys, Bidens, Clintons etc. enjoy much nicer digs? I think fomenting some class envy and division amongst the Democrats and their low information voters is an excellent idea!

Posted by: runningrn at January 27, 2013 07:19 AM (Ag5D2)

252

Posted by: kartoffel at January 27, 2013 11:08 AM (OgNv0)


There is some truth to that but I also think that is probably overly romanticizing what a conservative is.  We can be ginned up into a white-hot rage too.  The question is, how to funnel those passions into something productive that will actually work to shrink the Leviathan?

Posted by: chemjeff at January 27, 2013 07:20 AM (BBWjt)

253 Teej, you gotta get past the initial screen - that level of HR is only paid to say no. Try this, sign up for a class in an appropriate Associate or Bachelor degree path, audit it if you have to financially. Then put on a single line in your education section: AA, Lab Tech, 2017. With the date being your expected graduation date. Don't lie, just get it past the clowns who sort the stacks.

Posted by: Jean at January 27, 2013 07:21 AM (k8qQE)

254 the Navajo Nation needs to adopt a 'casino strategy' on the power plants. Run them as a sovereign nation under their own rules. Fuck the White Devils EPA.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at January 27, 2013 11:07 AM (l3vZN)


Indian tribes are not exempt from federal laws.  Only State laws.

Posted by: Vic at January 27, 2013 07:21 AM (53z96)

255 I could think of a few Morons who would be fine candidates. Alextc as press secretary of course. Popcorn. Worthy.

Posted by: teej at January 27, 2013 07:22 AM (QbxUg)

256 Posted by: teej at January 27, 2013 11:13 AM (Op+RR) Crap! I truly hope you find something soon!!

Posted by: runningrn at January 27, 2013 07:22 AM (Ag5D2)

257 Gieco is aware that many of their Federal customers work in t gun business?

Posted by: Jean at January 27, 2013 07:23 AM (k8qQE)

258 Alextc as press secretary of course. Popcorn. Worthy.

oh man, that would be epic....


Sniveling DC Reporter: Can you confirm the rumors swirling that the president is going to hand out tax cuts for the rich instead of spending the money on orphans and puppies?  And how do you tell the puppy owners out there that their puppies will die because the president wants to kill them and burn their corpses to produce greenhouse gases in order to destroy the planet?

AlexTC:  *stomp*

Posted by: chemjeff at January 27, 2013 07:24 AM (BBWjt)

259 I think fomenting some class envy and division amongst the Democrats and their low information voters is an excellent idea!

Posted by: runningrn at January 27, 2013 11:19 AM (Ag5D2)

 

That would work if the FSA wasn't the aristocracy loving serfs they are. They love the charity when the lord of the manor gives them the head, guts and hooves from the lord's Christmas dinner.

Posted by: Invictus at January 27, 2013 07:27 AM (OQpzc)

260

Posted by: runningrn at January 27, 2013 11:19 AM (Ag5D2)


I can see it now, a billboard campaign:


Left half: Picture of a house with a foreclosure sign on it

In big words underneath: YOU


Right half: Picture of a palatial mansion with Senator Dirtbag standing in front of it

In big words underneath: THEM

Posted by: chemjeff at January 27, 2013 07:27 AM (BBWjt)

261 258 Invictus,

the ship has sailed on Ogabe, the key is to suppress their unity more than flipping them.

You need to double the portion of their caucus that sits out b/c of apathy....

probably easier to do than making them understand how EPA is assfucking them

Posted by: sven10077 at January 27, 2013 07:29 AM (LRFds)

262 Wouldn't work on the one I'm referring to Jean but thanks. It's Mars btw. Opening a new plant here. The lab tech job has AD as a minimum qualification. Very last page has "Do you meet the minimum quals, yes or no. Answered no (I'm honest like that) and it's immediately kicked out. Went back and answered yes and explained that in the cover letter portion of the application directing them to the lab positions I had held including 5 years GC/MS (which they wanted) and teaching/supervising BA degreed chemists. Crickets.

Posted by: teej at January 27, 2013 07:33 AM (Vzh0K)

263 Coal mines, what about the entire fucking country?

Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at January 27, 2013 07:35 AM (wR+pz)

264 It's alright. I'm beginning to think the Big Guy wants me to sell my house and most of my stuff and go somewhere else.

Posted by: teej at January 27, 2013 07:39 AM (b9+ZZ)

265 262 Billy Bob,

the entire fucking country, is coal mines in part...

fucking up the US economy is like fucking up mashed potatoes....

1) recession/Depression!

2) exploit natural resources to regenerate capital

3) increase energy infrastructure to increase US competitiveness as a desirable physical plant for industry

4) apply new industry and the people's healthy desire for gain to dominate the new field

5) maximize gain giving the good or service to the greatest number of people at best price point possible

6) diminishing returns leading to

1) recession/depression!

we have hundreds of years of cheap energy in coal and NG and shale....

we are not allowed to streamline and maximize our markets...

because of religion the Greenie Gaia gestapo's religion

Posted by: sven10077 at January 27, 2013 07:40 AM (LRFds)

266 263 teej,

be a damn shame if we maximized Texas, louisiana, and a core of states population and accepted lower wages to attract blue businesses and at some point either invoked the Xth amendment or used the surge in illegal to push for ART V and break up.......


"damn shame"

Posted by: sven10077 at January 27, 2013 07:41 AM (LRFds)

267 HeatherRadish: I just finished listening to Mozart's "Requiem". My cat Kira slept through almost the whole thing on a chair here in this room, although her ears twitched now and then.

Posted by: rickl at January 27, 2013 07:44 AM (sdi6R)

268 Texas! We're coming for you!

Posted by: Migrant Californians and other Blue State refugees at January 27, 2013 07:45 AM (l3vZN)

269 Cats have weird taste in music.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at January 27, 2013 07:47 AM (ZKzrr)

270 Here is what Geico has to say:

We spoke with the policyholder in December and there was some misunderstanding/confusion on our part on how he used the vehicle.  We have reached out to the policyholder and hope that we can clarify usage of the vehicle and continue his policy.

They answered back awfully fast - probably a mail filter to catch these particular inquiries.

I think I'll cancel anyway. I felt pretty stupid when I figured out Geico meant Government Employees Insurance Co. I need a shower.

Posted by: Rule #2 at January 27, 2013 07:49 AM (CypDC)

271 This nation-destroying fuck is our second-term President because his opponent for the Senate seat from Illinois didn't think banging his wife Jeri Ryan - yes, that Jeri Ryan - was exciting enough without doing it in a sex club with a bunch of people watching.

Jack Ryan's penis needs to be shot for treason.

Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at January 27, 2013 10:03 AM (celt+)



Had Coach Ditka run in his place he would have destroyed Barry in the senate race and we would have been spared this commie asshole. Nice hash by the way

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 27, 2013 07:52 AM (OexM8)

272 I think the fact the plant was located in Texas, home of the evil Republicans, guaranteed its demise.

They really are thugs, aren't they?

Posted by: pj at January 27, 2013 07:55 AM (ZWaLo)

273 the Navajo Nation needs to adopt a 'casino strategy' on the power plants. Run them as a sovereign nation under their own rules. Fuck the White Devils EPA. Posted by: Jinx the Cat at January 27, 2013 11:07 AM


The Navajo tribe is ruled by the corrupt voted in by the stupid and they are reliably democrat voters.

Posted by: huerfano at January 27, 2013 07:58 AM (bAGA/)

274 271 TJ,

yes they are and our side wets the bed at being seen as 'mean."

Fuck the blue up, no mercy.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 27, 2013 07:58 AM (LRFds)

275 @262

Er, that was snarc.  I know all dat shit.

Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at January 27, 2013 08:00 AM (wR+pz)

276 Sven-- shooting for 2000 posts this week.

Posted by: Abner Norman at January 27, 2013 08:02 AM (6gk77)

277 275 Abner Norman,

at least I am not chasing 3,000......

I am probably gonna go back to my other side job and be around less....need some walking around money and I have a run to Texas lined up for next week....

have not figured out how to text and drive so.....

Posted by: sven10077 at January 27, 2013 08:08 AM (LRFds)

278 Nuclear Energy in Iran takes a step backward ... An explosion deep within IranÂ’s Fordow nuclear facility has destroyed much of the installation, trapped about 240 personnel deep underground, according to a former intelligence officer of the Islamic regime, and reported by Reza Kahlili on Thursday. The previously secret nuclear site has become a center for IranÂ’s nuclear activity because of the 2,700 centrifuges enriching uranium to the 20-percent level. A further enrichment to weapons grade would take only weeks, experts say.

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at January 27, 2013 08:12 AM (zSyar)

279

"CAN YOU BELIEVE THIS FUCK WAS REELECTED"

 

Well, yes, since he was running unopposed.

Posted by: rrpjr at January 27, 2013 08:14 AM (R+qby)

280 The majority of the Navajos live n the 4 corners area of AZ. Specifically Apache county AZ. They overwhelming voted for obama. There are three coal power plants in Apache county, supplied by Navajo coal. On an interesting side there are 15 counties in AZ. All of the AZ reservation residents voted for obama by large margins. So far only two Sheriffs have said they will not enforce the obama gun confiscation. None of the Democrat sheriffs who cover the reservations have spoken out yet. So is it obama's plan to disarm the Indians and will these Democrat Sheriffs help in the confiscation? Fun to watch.

Posted by: Bufalobob at January 27, 2013 09:30 AM (x+7qA)

281 This guy is ten time worse than Carter, maybe a hundred.

Posted by: sTevo at January 27, 2013 09:54 AM (VMcEw)

282 This is an interesting problem. There are several new technologies that provide clean gas and clean liquid fuel from coal.  many are quite clean. Some can operate with very little water. So what gives here.

I believe price is a big factor. Natural Gas, right now is cleaner than coal and much much cheaper. It makes sense for a utility to switch from an older coal plant to a new Nat gas plant. EPA regulations aside, price is the big factor....U.S. coal demand will contract by 120 million tons in 2012, with fuel switching in the first half of the year accounting for roughly 100 million tons in lost consumption.

The price of Nat Gas goes up and down, so it is not always cheaper. But, WV coal is so expensive, it is dropping in volume.

Posted by: Keating Willcox at January 27, 2013 10:15 AM (YZxuS)

283 Posted by: Keating Willcox at January 27, 2013 02:15 PM (YZxuS) It's not a matter of cost or available technology. It's a matter of controlling the general population.

Posted by: Bill H at January 27, 2013 12:44 PM (3sZO1)

284 Now, I fully concur that Obama's carrying the enviroloonies' water when it comes to his 'war on coal'.

But...if you're a power utility you'd rather not build coal plants anyway.  

Gas comes in through a pipe and it burns in pretty much any kind of equipment you'd care to burn it in. 

Coal needs a rail spur (which implies a railroad), it has to be cleaned and pulverized and you still don't have as much flexiblity in the actual generating unit design as you do with gas.

So gas is going to be the preferred fuel as long as a utility can count on a reliable source at a competitive cost.  

Mind you, we know that the Browners and the Holdrens and other such scum would love to cripple fossil fuels entirely, but the unicorn-fart contingent hasn't won yet.





Posted by: JEM at January 27, 2013 01:16 PM (o+SC1)

285 Another promise kept !

Posted by: Tester at January 27, 2013 09:10 PM (bS6uW)

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