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October 28, 2013

BBC declares Obama a "right wing" social democrat
— Purple Avenger

I guess that would put the likes of JFK and FDR somewhere to the right of Genghis Khan and Attila the Hun.

...Although calling Obama a "socialist" sounds daft to our ears (he's a pretty right wing social democrat), it is exactly how many conservatives see him...

BTW, if you think Piers Morgan is a smarmy clueless imbecile who pegs the meter, you need to follow this BBC oblivioid Mardell for a bit. He'll have you recalibrating your gauges to make room for him on the scale. Pol Pot was probably a left leaning moderate by this guy's standards.

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1 And I am a ballerina.

Posted by: navybrat at October 28, 2013 10:33 PM (AYGBr)

2 Preference cascade anyone? It seems the latest Socialist Messiah, like others before him, is in fact a turd. So the true believers who await such a light bringer must distance themselves from the charlatan.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 28, 2013 10:35 PM (LC9b/)

3 European "right wing" and American "right wing" aren't even close. I don't think he's even "euro right," but since both their wings are socialist, one could see how they could get confused. This is an "everyday confusion," unfortunately. It's a homophone of sorts.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at October 28, 2013 10:37 PM (qyfb5)

4 Could it be that the Beeb wants to tar Zero, and "right wing" is the easiest way to do so?

Posted by: logprof at October 28, 2013 10:41 PM (4BA+Y)

5 In the walnut sized brains of these pseudo intellectuals, anyone who is an Authoritarian is Right Wing.

It never occurred to them in a million years that Authoritarianism can originate from either the Right or the Left. They are that fucking stupid.

Posted by: navybrat at October 28, 2013 10:41 PM (AYGBr)

6 BTW, Stephen Harper would be far from right wing by American standards, but he's a far sight better than the JEF.

Posted by: logprof at October 28, 2013 10:42 PM (4BA+Y)

7 A right-wing Socialist. What a lark. And a nationalist too, what with those drones and NSA and all. ... so Obama's a right-wing Nationalist Socialist ... Seig Heil!!

Posted by: Patrick M at October 28, 2013 10:48 PM (oNqbW)

8 All right-wing means is that he's willing to use his (from their perspective) military outside his borders. Syria notwithstanding, drones = teh Hitler.

Posted by: Methos at October 28, 2013 10:50 PM (hO9ad)

9 The Brits employ their SpecOps outside their borders all the time...but they don't tend to brag about it like Obama does.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at October 28, 2013 10:52 PM (4tK7k)

10 Obama's nowhere near socialist enuff for the Euros because he has to hide his true communist tendencies from Americans - but only barely.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at October 28, 2013 10:59 PM (b/lt+)

11 First off, let me just say that there is a reason our ancestors left The Continent. And let's be honest, everyone spies on everyone, and yes, that includes allies spying on each other. The difference here is that Obama is so incompetent that he didn't carry out the spying very well. It's a PR debacle, and the administration looks pretty amateurish.

Posted by: Mistress Overdone at October 28, 2013 11:00 PM (2/oBD)

12 This little portion of his pitiful - and pitifully, in total, asininely incorrect - screed to which you linked, referencing the Antebellum U.S. as to political reality:

"...The Democrats were to an extent the party of the workers. But they were also the party of Jim Crow laws, the rural South and deep social conservatism..."

- is, quite clearly (to anyone who actually sees the political reality of the present-day U.S., and understands its origins) the only wee portion of said screed with any reality to it - and is itself partially incorrect (the Democraps have never measurably been "...the party of the workers...", although they frequently like to refer to themselves as such, and did even back then), and a woefully inadequate summation of the Democrap reality of 19th Century America, either pre- or post-1860's-Unpleasantness.

But then - what can be expected from a clearly-vindictive Brit bork (and, apparently, flaming Leftist ignoramus) like Mardell, who's both completely convinced that the British political "system" is and always has been entirely superior to anything we have in the U.S. and, while moderately able to express himself in writing, is so obviously, blatantly unable to see anything with clarity due to his own moronic prejudices and misunderstandings?

As the Right Honorable Bugs De Bunny would put it: What.A.Macaroon.

I have less use for the execrable Piers Morgan than what I might accidentally step in while crossing a barnyard. Yet, I would prefer a hundred Morgans to even half of a Mardell, who should properly be subjected to advanced post-partum abortion - oxygen-thieves like that are unnecessarily tolerated far too often.

Posted by: J.S.Bridges at October 28, 2013 11:08 PM (gzYZh)

13 This is good! If BBC calls Obama a right-winger, that means they've given up on him. Because they can't say bad things about a LEFT winger. Therefore they must first define him as part of the right.

Posted by: Comrade Arthur at October 28, 2013 11:10 PM (83xuc)

14 My goodness, but there is a lot of stupid in that article.

"Despite the fact that it left the world teetering on the edge of an economic catastrophe, they say everything is working just fine. "

Roughly translated, 'They almost stopped the music on the global Ponzi scheme (no, they really didn't, not given Boehner's well telegraphed squishiness) and we just can't have that.'

That's the first paragraph. It goes on to decry pretty much everything that makes us better than them. I continue to be amazed at how people from lesser countries can be so snotty about our lack of desire to be as inferior as them.

Posted by: Methos at October 28, 2013 11:10 PM (hO9ad)

15 As I watch Redeye...and need to get to bed, I just read this RedState article on the GOP infighting with some really good stuff we already know, but lays out the battle out pretty well of the conservatives vs the establishment-types. Seriously you guys.. http://bit.ly/18xfzjt

Posted by: Yip at October 28, 2013 11:12 PM (/jHWN)

16 Want to know a bit more about this parasite?:
Google Daily Mail, 12 September 2009,BBC's Mark Mardell.
Sorry. it is simply too hard to link here. And a bit absurd to attempt at that.
This is an important footnote to the life style of this fat toad.

Posted by: pat at October 28, 2013 11:23 PM (KCg4m)

17 From a screed delivered by this toady after Barky's "You Lie!" speech of Sep 2009, in which he described Barky's promises Â• Insurance will be compulsory Â• Those who have health care won't have to change what they have Â• Those who don't have it, above a certain income, and big companies that don't provide it, will be fined Â• Insurance companies will have to take on people with pre-existing conditions and won't be allowed to drop them when they get sick Â• It won't add a dime to the deficit or be paid for out of the Medicare trust fund. The money will come from eliminating wasteful spending and taxing drug and insurance companies. Apart from the "compulsory" point, four whoppers...

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars [/i] [/b] [/s] at October 28, 2013 11:49 PM (LP7M9)

18 He's a "bright-winger!"

Posted by: Clueless Throway Puns LLC at October 29, 2013 12:01 AM (qnMOL)

19 What. Obama. Right-wing. What? My brain is broken. I need meat, boobs, and explosions now

Posted by: Cato at October 29, 2013 12:03 AM (hFkWa)

20 Comrade Arthur at October 29, 2013 03:10 AM

A right wing socialist is a Fascist to the Brits. Obamacare Barry is in their crosshairs. It is not that socialism is bad it is that Obamacare Barry is a sneaky dictator imposing good things in a bad way. Beggaring people with bad crap insurance is good but not if you don't "explain" it to them first and dip it in politically correct language. Obamacare Barry is too detached and indolent to do that so to jump out in front of the preference cascade he must be sacrificed to maintain the cognitive dissonance of the Europeans (and he is spying on them). And his sycophant dummies are too stupid and crooked to build a website. If he were only a better socialist and had a higher energy level. Alas.

Posted by: Lester at October 29, 2013 12:35 AM (qTsuK)

21 European "right wing" and American "right wing" aren't even close.

I don't think he's even "euro right," but since both their wings are socialist, one could see how they could get confused.

This is an "everyday confusion," unfortunately.

It's a homophone of sorts.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 29, 2013 02:37 AM

I dunno, Mero... I think you might be overthinking it. They're not "confused". The sort of people you're dealing with here are a lot further out there than that. These are old school brit-internationalist types with particular... credentials, so to speak. They're a lot more common than most realse.

Have heard these guys many times. They call Stalin a "right winger". I'm am not shitting you on this.

Posted by: otho at October 29, 2013 01:07 AM (9gNQd)

What I mean is, when they refer to Barry as a "right wing social democrat", they're not confused...

... they're lying.

Posted by: otho at October 29, 2013 01:11 AM (9gNQd)

23 I honestly think 404care was meant to fail. They couldn't run on creating a single payer system, so they foisted this abortion on a recession-battered electorate vulnerable to government giveaways in a dire time. Oh, and Bulworth!

Posted by: boned to the bone at October 29, 2013 01:14 AM (Ph479)

24 Well created pants = Right Winger Rumpled tweed = Left Winger They no longer have a concept of a traditional Liberal in European politics. And, all of them are complicit in the big lie that the fascists weren't Socialists.

Posted by: Jean at October 29, 2013 01:28 AM (CMlD4)

Liberalism. It really is a mental disease.

Posted by: Fen at October 29, 2013 01:30 AM (a422o)

26 If you needed proof that the Brits have no idea how American politics works (or doesn't work, as the case may be), look no further than this article. Sheesh.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at October 29, 2013 01:38 AM (xa1/W)

27 Always worth remembering that there were very good reasons our ancestors left Europe and tried to create a society as unlike Europe as possible.

Posted by: Pttdu Apiptix at October 29, 2013 02:00 AM (GXWXg)

28 If Obama is "right wing", I'd love to see this guy's classification of Churchill, Thatcher and Reagan.

Posted by: Icedog at October 29, 2013 02:04 AM (uZ6Ul)

29 I can't stand the BBC. Occasionally, they may have a good program but most of what they produce sucks big time.

Posted by: Jesse at October 29, 2013 02:07 AM (As/N8)

30 I stand by my theory. Two world wars wiped out all the real men (and their gene pool) in Europe. ...those too feable, sickly or chickenshit survived...only to spread their inferior DNA.

Darwinism flipped on its head.

Posted by: Icedog at October 29, 2013 02:09 AM (uZ6Ul)

31 9 purp,

I'm going to miss the British when they're gone....

Posted by: sven10077 at October 29, 2013 02:11 AM (9jfyN)

32 24 Jean,

They're pussies. A tough socialist makes their ginnies tingle and feel shameful.....

Posted by: sven10077 at October 29, 2013 02:15 AM (9jfyN)

33 sven, what's to miss? Name one British item in your house. ...and Benny Hill or Mr Bean vids don't count.

Posted by: Icedog at October 29, 2013 02:15 AM (uZ6Ul)

34 33 Icedog,

uh me....yeah it's been a while....

add in the Magna Carta, basically America's attempt at Constitutional Republicanism doesn't exist without the English enlightenment.....

There is a sickness in Pan Anglia, a self-loathing I'd purge with Bible and sword.

Posted by: sven10077 at October 29, 2013 02:19 AM (9jfyN)

35 I haven't been to London in 20 years, but I could have sworn I was in New Delhi when I arrived. Throw in a few million muzzies who refuse to assimilate and you can sound the death toll.

Posted by: Icedog at October 29, 2013 02:21 AM (uZ6Ul)

36 5 In the walnut sized brains of these pseudo intellectuals, anyone who is an Authoritarian is Right Wing.

It never occurred to them in a million years that Authoritarianism can originate from either the Right or the Left. They are that fucking stupid.

Posted by: navybrat at October 29, 2013 02:41 AM (AYGBr)

===

Yup. Government is an attempt to form a monopoly on the use of force. Socialists want absolutely everything done by government. So they keep creating situations where a person has too much power to use force and then becomes a monster that abuses the power. Then they say the right wingers did it. They are that fucking stupid.

Posted by: jc at October 29, 2013 02:22 AM (PlzOe)

37 35 Icedog,

that's what I mean...they handed the motherland to Western Occidental Gents

Posted by: sven10077 at October 29, 2013 02:26 AM (9jfyN)

38 "Right Wing" in Europe doesn't mean the same as it does here.

Posted by: Vic at October 29, 2013 02:30 AM (zZbNF)

39 Also, "far right" in Europe means Nazi, which in the US is leftest.

Posted by: Vic at October 29, 2013 02:31 AM (zZbNF)

40 Obama is Right Wing on the European scale...If Mussolini was Right. Obama and his cronies in Finance, Big Corps, Big Labor, Academia run a classic fascist government: Totalitarian, authoritarian, to the benefit of many public and private groups and individuals - Corporatism run amok. I know this asshat isn't saying that, but I'm tired of people refusing to call the Democrats what they are: Fascists. Socialists want state ownership, Obama settles for state control and the companies paying the vig. At least Mussolini made the trains run on time, this idiot can't even get a website running.

Posted by: coondawg68 at October 29, 2013 02:31 AM (8UBs9)

41 36 JC,

they have a 12 year old's political maturity....

we good you bad if my ally Bob goes bad he is suddenly your ally Bob....

stupid

Posted by: sven10077 at October 29, 2013 02:31 AM (9jfyN)

42 sven, the Europeans have sacrificed their defense spending on Utopian socialism fantasies...enabled by Uncle Sam for several decades. Those days are coming to an end. Interesting times ahead...

Posted by: Icedog at October 29, 2013 02:32 AM (uZ6Ul)

43 42 Icedog,

historically nobody more ruthless when cornered, but the multi-culti cult coupled with the self-loathing of PC may doom Europa

Posted by: sven10077 at October 29, 2013 02:35 AM (9jfyN)

44 Trials are starting in the UK of some of Piers peeps for cell phone hacking and bribing officials for confidential info. Piers should be in the dock with them.

Posted by: Jesse at October 29, 2013 02:35 AM (As/N8)

45 40 coondawg68,

The United States of Chicago.....

"cut us in or cut it out"

Posted by: sven10077 at October 29, 2013 02:37 AM (9jfyN)

46 I like their castles. I'd give my eye teeth to find a motte and bailey in my back yard. How cool would that be!

Posted by: Jesse at October 29, 2013 02:39 AM (As/N8)

47 It is so simple. Anything "bad" is "right-wing" by definition.

Posted by: Mr. Dave at October 29, 2013 02:55 AM (cYIJO)

Commandante 0 is a right winger and Daffy Duck is his sub alt Lt.

Obama is no more a right winger than I am a flaming liberal, he doesn't even hit the mark on conservatism.

This Brit poofter obviously has daddy issues and is projecting.

Posted by: Right Honorable Bugs De Bunnet at October 29, 2013 02:56 AM (4pjhs)

49 I see no comments by Mark Mardell about how his boytoi, barry, has fucked up our healthcare system. What a tool!

Posted by: Jesse at October 29, 2013 02:59 AM (As/N8)

50 Mardell said that mass murder of this kind is now Â“as American as baseball.Â” IsnÂ’t that charming? He wouldnÂ’t dare say that child rape or honor killings or beheadings were as Islamic as a prayer rug. The BBCÂ’s editorial double standards are clear. http://goo.gl/rThqjS Oh, let's say it: Beheadings are as British as fish and chips.

Posted by: Jesse at October 29, 2013 03:02 AM (As/N8)

51 A clear case of eurosclerosis. And, it IS classified as a preexisting condition.

Posted by: Dr. Dave at October 29, 2013 03:03 AM (7NQqW)

52 I think they know exactly what he is, but they don't have words for it. They know he is socialist and admit it, but they can't understand his socially conservative views (he had to be dragged kicking and screaming to gay marriage, supports draconian drug laws, jingoistic military excursions, massive surveillance state, etc.) The thing is, they really DO have a word for it, but they don't want to admit what financially left and socially right is called -- National Socialist or Fascist.

Posted by: Phelps at October 29, 2013 03:18 AM (05043)

53 don't forget the cover pic that Time mag (I recall it was Time) of Reagan with him arm around Barky's shoulder. Also don't forget calling Zimmerman a White Hispanic. Leftists thingk words have magical powers to make rubbish true

Posted by: mallfly at October 29, 2013 03:19 AM (rJwtK)

54 Phelps: "they can't understand his socially conservative views (he had to be dragged kicking and screaming to gay marriage, supports draconian drug laws, jingoistic military excursions, massive surveillance state, etc.) The thing is, they really DO have a word for it, but they don't want to admit what financially left and socially right is called -- National Socialist or Fascist." Ding ding ding ding. Don't forget the GE/GM/Solyndra et al/Veriozon/Facebook on and on cooperation paid for with tax breaks, regulation exemptions, govt backed loans...or the QE's that have pumped trillions into the pockets of the few, the connected. Those who are bundlers and supporters of the Party uber alles. And Media conglomerates willing to lie, allowing the cult of personality to grow. The Elizabeth Warren "You didn't build that" populism coupled with the '2Minute Hate' of progressive media is classic fascism. The use of the word by stupid hippies to describe everything from traffic stops to 'No shirt, no shoes, no service' signs has made many loath to use it, but when the jackboot fits...

Posted by: coondawg68 at October 29, 2013 03:37 AM (8UBs9)

55 Oh look...another Brit with an opinion taken out of his ass. Get photos of him, everyone because they are such an uncommon sight.

Posted by: NR Pax at October 29, 2013 04:37 AM (ODsL5)

56 This is actually good news. Trying to paint Obama as "right wing" shows the left thinks Obama is a shithead. Finally.

Posted by: Dang at October 29, 2013 04:54 AM (Hx2XA)

57 You laugh about Pol Pot, but that's exactly the line that Noam Chomsky tried to peddle about that genocidal communist madman.

Posted by: Jeffersonian at October 29, 2013 04:57 AM (+ttLq)

58 Brother No 1 is no dictator - he is merely the first in our Agrarian Paradise of Democratic Kamupuchea!

Posted by: Hun Sen at October 29, 2013 05:20 AM (epWQP)

59 What's the problem? Keynesian propping up of private business and socializing their downfall is pretty much Center/Center Right Social Democrat.

Posted by: palooka at October 29, 2013 08:57 AM (UXBKg)

60 They know he's a socialist (or worse, depending on how much he can get done). They also don't mind socialists. We all know that Social Democrat is an euphemism for a weak socialist. But right now the world is furious at generic America for the spying revelations, and the President personifies the country. Therefore, he gets his socialism euphemized, and the term "right-wing" added to explain his unpopularity.

Posted by: haakondahl at October 30, 2013 04:45 AM (SGt7E)

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