1 Thanks Drew for the new post!

2 I'm not sure I agree.  The Dems couldn't win the House in 2012 when they had a great turnout, why think they'd win it in 2014 when presumably fewer Dems will be expected to vote?

3 I donÂ’t think ObamaÂ’s voters will show up any more than they usually do but I think the GOPÂ’s may stay home.


I'll be polishing the andirons that day.

4 >>I donÂ’t think ObamaÂ’s voters will show up any more than they usually do

No worries, we've got it covered. Can't wait 'till the ObamaCare Hub is fully operational!

5 I think the only way the GOP loses the House is if they touch immigration. The Dems are gonna pin amnesty on the (R)'s and beat them into the ground with the issue. I'm no longer a Republican. Still conservative, just looking for a smarter party.

6 Boned we are

7 Now theyre talking about Christie winning huge in NJ. It's gonna be a lot closer than people think. The Republican Will Not Turn Out for Christie.

8 "HeÂ’s also worried that conservatives are being complacent in thinking that the electorate will be like 2010Â’s and not 2008 or 2012Â’s." I don't think that's an unreasonable assumption. I don't know if 2014 will look like 2010. But it won't look like 2008 or 2012. No Obama on ballot = at least a 5% swing away from the Dems.

9 A podcast tease post? 

10 At this point, what difference does it make and how does this help Michelle's kids?

The RINO dumpling gang has made it very clear "you'll take our sucking Obama's dick and you'll like it or you'll lose the house."

Guess what McCain gang?

I'll choose lose the House you cocksuckers.

11 Yes, they will sell us out and a lot of Republicans will sit at home.

12 Drew has obviously never seen John Boehner when he gets fired up.

13 The RNC has not yet acknowleged that Rep. Ami Bera is not a woman. I corrected them in response to their plea for money here in California. Bera beat Dan Lungren and is now my congressional representative. Shall I quote Hillary about "difference?"

14 I was going to tell MWR to cheer up until I watched the new Bill Whittle video and read this post. Now I don't think I got it in me!

15 Time for a third party. Enough already with the fucking clownshoes.

16 I've known they're going to lose it for months. It's their destiny. I suppose I could be afraid but what's the point anymore? This party is hopeless, beyond despairing. They should not, in fact, even exist. They don't deserve existence. The democrats are uncivil organism which at least understands the basic laws and imperative of survival, existence.

17 2 I'm not sure I agree. The Dems couldn't win the House in 2012 when they had a great turnout, why think they'd win it in 2014 when presumably fewer Dems will be expected to vote? Posted by: steve at August 16, 2013 10:38 AM (L9End) ____________ Exactemundo

18

I.  Don't.  Care.

 

If the fuckers in the GOP weren't ass-deep in corruption and graft and scared to death of being called racists, they could have the dog-eating crackhead in handcuffs by Monday morning.

 

They have shown no interest in following the Constitution.  I have no interest in giving them my vote.

 

And Juan McStain will still be screaming, "but, but - I reached across the  aisle, my friends!"  as they put has worthless ass up against the wall.

19

Yes, by all means let's let our Republican reps know that they can do anything they fucking please and we'll still vote for them. Hey, where else we gonna go?

 

Because Be Afraid.

20 Wow, that's a depressing post. Maybe House Republicans should consider a filibuster of their own. In the caucus meeting.

21 12 Drew has obviously never seen John Boehner when he gets fired up.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 16, 2013 10:42 AM (Boytw)

 

Niether has anyone else.

22 John, did you just see a cannon ball whizz by our bow?

23 I donÂ’t think ObamaÂ’s voters will show up any more than they usually do but I think the GOPÂ’s may stay home. I'll be polishing the andirons that day. I'll find something to polish.

24 Conservatives aren't complacent, but the GOP certainly is. Although a better word might be "delusional".

25 5 Schrodinger's Cat,

Pretty much dead on.  I think the Rubicon was Amnesty, but the refusal to call out the Ogabe admin on lawlessness or protect their voters from the out of control regulatory fiat is the straw.

26 I hope the GOP loses the House,  along with the Dems.  Neither party deserves to survive.  Time for the Lace Whig party to take over.

27 I will stay home. I see too little difference between them to bother. Why watch a slow burn? Light it up.

28 Conservatives aren't complacent, but the GOP certainly is.

Although a better word might be "delusional".

Moribund? 

Comatose?

29 I can guarantee you that if the GOP House lets ANY form of amnesty for current illegal aliens become law, THEY WILL LOSE THE HOUSE!

30 why think they'd win it in 2014 when presumably fewer Dems will be expected to vote?
Posted by: steve at August 16, 2013 10:38 AM

Reason Number One why the Democrats will win it back: the Republicans are too busy lining their own pockets, hitting the cocktail/fundraising circuit and sucking up to Their Liberal Betters to do a single friggin' useful thing.

Why vote for a damn Republican when he/she is a virtual lock to cave in to the wishes of the Choom Boy brigade?

I swear, I think Drew has discovered the Hot Air Button on his computer. All this jabber about How to Maintain a Majority is shot down instantly by the actions and words of Boner, Teh Noot, and the rest of the spineless fuckweasels in the party. All they have going for them is jellyfish like Poppin' Fresh and the NRO gang providing cover -- and excuses -- for them.

31 17 Mr Mau Mau,

In a sane law based universe you might be correct because of "Math" in this one you're incorrect b/c we have Corky Thatcher as precinct bosses and AGs.

See you next November.

32 Time for a third party. Enough already with the fucking clownshoes. RCoA! Rodeo Clowns of America unite!

33 I suppose we could switch to a monarchy. GRANTS PASS, Ore. – A Romanian princess and her husband, a former sheriff's deputy, are apparently among several people federal agents arrested in Eastern Oregon on Thursday in connection with an alleged cockfighting Oh, nevermind.

34 Americans will vote for the  Representative  candidate that least pisses them off next year. The question will be - are  enough  good  candidates  going to run in the primaries  to offer a choice?

35
The GOP doesn't care whether they win or lose the house, as long as there is a political spoils system for them and theirs.  Its not that I am cynical, it took me about 25 years to come to the truth of that.

It seems many others are also arriving there.  See NRO in the sidebar.

36

Conservatives aren't complacent, but the GOP certainly is.



Although a better word might be "delusional".

 

Moribund?

Comatose?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 16, 2013 10:45 AM (Boytw)

 

High on the  smoke  the pollsters keep blowing up their asses.

37 >>Mitt Romney repeatedly used the term during the Republican primary campaign to talk about how his immigration enforcement policies would lead to unauthorized immigrants leaving the U.S. of their own accord, rather than needing to be deported. >>“Using the word ‘self-deportation’ — it’s a horrific comment to make,” Priebus said, in a forceful rebuke. “I don’t think it has anything to do with our party. When someone makes those comments, obviously, it’s racist.” Ok then. You know what else is racist, Rinse? When you contact me for a donation. And I don't deal with racists.

38 The problem with Republicans is that other than on conservative social issues, they can't articulate a vision with any concreteness and the last time they had all 3 prizes (Pres, House, Senate), they screwed the pooch big.

39 "Drew has obviously never seen John Boehner when he gets fired up.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 16, 2013 10:42 AM (Boytw)"

Sort of like Loch Ness Monster sightings.

40 Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 16, 2013 10:47 AM (zF6Iw) What review are they congratulating you about?

41 "Using the word 'self-deportation' — it's a horrific comment to make. I don't think it has anything to do with our party. When someone makes those comments, obviously, it's racist."- Reince Preibus, yesterday

42 Drew has obviously never seen John Boehner when he gets fired lit up.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 16, 2013 10:42 AM

Fixed. You just have to visit the right bars and parties....

43

>>>...the last time they had all 3 prizes (Pres, House, Senate), they screwed the pooch big.

 

 

The last time they didn't (had nothing),  we got that new tax thing called Obamacare. Choices.

44 Michael Walsh is killing it in the sidebar-linked NRO article.

"The GOP 'leadership,' as presently constituted, is nothing more than the lesser half of the Permanent Bipartisan Fusion Government, content to munch its cud and occasionally low in the direction of constitutional propriety, and then resume its own modest but lucrative role in fertilizing the 'two-party' system."

Precisely so.

It's time for conservatives to realize that the "Obama administration" is in reality a coalition government with the trougher wing of the GOP.

45 What's funnier? The idea that Dems that couldn't capitalize on a almost 2008 like electorate last November while keeping the White House and were unable to regain the House think they'll do so in a worse environment for them next year...or...that a guy who has admitted (or at least claims) he doesn't care about the future of the GOP keeps whining about them? Oh yeah, let it burn and all that.Gotta get points with a crowd that lives in a bubble. Whatever.

46 You're right, Mr Mohawk, the GOP doesn't care if they won or lose -- guys like Boehne, Hal Rogers, and McConnell are all confident they can keep winning and stay in The Club.

47 “Using the word ‘self-deportation’ — it’s a horrific comment to make,” Priebus reportedly said on Thursday. “I don’t think it has anything to do with our party. When someone makes those comments, obviously, it’s racist.”

And that's the Rubicon. I don't know how to win. But it will not be with the GOP.

48 What review are they congratulating you about?

 

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at August 16, 2013 10:47 AM (XIxXP)

 

The yearly performance review.  Aced it, but no raise.

 

BTW, put The Director's Cut in the mail yesterday.  Hope you like it!

49 Drew, can I ask a simple question? Why should we be afraid—or even care at all—about the GOP losing the House?

I don't particularly fret about my boss being fired. Why? Because she's largely worthless and has no concern for my own interest. Why on earth would I care about hers?

50 GRANTS PASS, Ore. – A Romanian princess and her husband, a former sheriff's deputy, are apparently among several people federal agents arrested in Eastern Oregon on Thursday in connection with an alleged cockfighting


Can America really call itself civilized when gypsy queens are forced to raise assault chickens in the shadows?

51 45 What's funnier? The idea that Dems that couldn't capitalize on a almost 2008 like electorate last November while keeping the White House and were unable to regain the House think they'll do so in a worse environment for them next year...or...that a guy who has admitted (or at least claims) he doesn't care about the future of the GOP keeps whining about them? Oh yeah, let it burn and all that.Gotta get points with a crowd that lives in a bubble. Whatever.

Posted by: Author Gone Rogue at August 16, 2013 10:49 AM (yAor6)

 

-1

52 The yearly performance review. Aced it, but no raise. BTW, put The Director's Cut in the mail yesterday. Hope you like it! Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 16, 2013 10:50 AM (zF6Iw) Damn, I thought you got a mention in the NYT or somethin. I forgat you have a real job.

53

I think this scenario is plausible bordering on likely.  The fact that so many in the GOP leadership are openly $hitting on the party's base is making it worse. 

If the Republicans were an effective check on Obama's abuses as they were during Clinton's presidency it would be one thing.  But this group of Republicans acts like they learned their fighting skills from the French. 

Amnesty combined with another cave on spending and failure to crack any skulls over Benghazi, or the IRS... forget it.  Might as well be governed by Leftists so we can at least say the end will come more quickly.

54 The GOP will run a Democrat. The Democrat party will run another "pro"gressive Communist. 'What difference, at this point, does it make" - is a prophetic statement from an unlikely oracle.

America will continue its intentionally engineered decline.

55
>>>...the last time they had all 3 prizes (Pres, House, Senate), they screwed the pooch big.

They are not who you think they are.  (they expanded govt)

56 Can America really call itself civilized when gypsy queens are forced to raise assault chickens in the shadows? Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 16, 2013 10:50 AM (Boytw) I'm glad someone else found that bizzare, WTF eh?

57 All we need to do is  primary the fuck out of RINO SCOAMFS.

Then the house and senate just won't be republicans, but we will all be winners.

58 "Why vote for a damn Republican when he/she is a virtual lock to cave in to the wishes of the Choom Boy brigade?"

Still waiting for Ted Cruz to show the first signs of passive accommodation to the Obama agenda. But, strangely, no such signs anywhere in evidence. The guy seems to fight back harder against Obama with each new day.

Are we sure Cruz is actually a Republican? MOST atypical of the modern breed.

59 Are we sure Cruz is actually a Republican? MOST atypical of the modern breed.

Posted by: torquewrench at August 16, 2013 10:52 AM (gqT4g)

Wasn't he born in Canada? It just gets weirder and weirder...

60 A hack like Hal Rogers, for example, doesn't give a rip if he's the only R left in the House -- as long as he has his seat he's satisfied.

61 I just made a donation to the DNC. Found their website offensive, and reiterates my belief they are not what is needed for the Republic, but it is clear we are going to have call fire down on our position to have any chance of surviving.

62 Wasn't he born in Canada? It just gets weirder and weirder... Posted by: joncelli at August 16, 2013 10:53 AM (RD7QR) Maybe Canada can make us a 14th province?

63 let it burn.....burn burn burn

64

Are we sure Cruz is actually a Republican? MOST atypical of the modern breed.



Posted by: torquewrench at August 16, 2013 10:52 AM (gqT4g)

 

Wasn't he born in Canada? It just gets weirder and weirder...

Posted by: joncelli at August 16, 2013 10:53 AM (RD7QR)

 

Cruz / Steyn 2016!

65 Are we sure Cruz is actually a Republican? MOST atypical of the modern breed. Posted by: torquewrench at August 16, 2013 10:52 AM

The cynic in me says the majority simply hasn't found Cruz's price yet, while the realist points out he makes up a whopping 1% of the Senate.

Is he really all we have? All the Great Conservative Heroes (many loudly and repeatedly touted at This Here Blog) have shown themselves to not even have the fortitude to stand on feet of clay.

66 I'm fired up!

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!

67 Nah, it's not even worth it primarying them. We're just gonna stay home if it's between a Democrat and a Just The Tip Democrat.

68 Let.  It.  Burn.

69 Why on earth would I care about hers?

Posted by: Rickroll at August 16, 2013 10:50 AM (6VB4r)

 

-- Because your next boss could be worse?

70 I think you're right, Drew. I'm pretty sick of the GOP, personally. They *might* get my vote in a crawl-over-broken-glass-to-stop-the-Democrats situation, but I definitely don't feel the GOP leadership's interests are aligned with my own.

71 From Drudge: 'Dozens' of Phone Calls from Obama, Hagel and Kerry Ignored by Top General... Hahahaha! Maybe, the guy is busy and you're not that important, twats?

72 With the ruling that congress gets it's free money to afford obamacare, has the president in essence 'bought' congress?

73 How come this post makes me feel like DrewM would like to see the Republicans lose the House?

74 Drew refers to a "CR/Debt ceiling hike" as one of the potential upcoming joys.

I'm surprised there hasn't been more mention of the way that Obama and Jack Lew have basically hit the snooze button on the debt clock for the last eighty-something days now.

We are, in reality, above the $17T debt ceiling as we speak. There's just questionably legal jiggerypokery going on to make it appear as though the number hovers just below the ceiling.

By the way, last time I looked at the deficit numbers, we were about $100B over what the full year total was supposed to be for the deficit, and the year's not over yet.

Frankly, I'm fine with another debt ceiling fight. And, soon. The more fighting is going on around debt, spending, and pork, the less legislative energy and comity there will be to pass new fusterclucks like amnesty.

75

I donÂ’t think ObamaÂ’s voters will show up any more than they usually do but I think the GOPÂ’s may stay home.

 

Could be. Maybe not for the Washington-centric reasons given, but the nature of the Dueling Get Out The Vote Narratives.

 

Democrat GOTV Message:

 

Republicans supported that white racist who chased down a black child and shot him to death.

Republicans stuck a broom handle up President ObamaÂ’s butt and sent a rodeo bull after him.

 

Republican GOTV Message:

 

Is it our turn yet?

 

76 I think there have been many honorable people that went to Washington to do the right things. Then a combination of lifestyle, millions of $ in available graft and a constant drone of dissatisfaction from hostile constituents made them say fuck you, pay me.

77  >>I just made a donation to the DNC. Found their website offensive, and reiterates my belief they are not what is needed for the Republic, but it is clear we are going to have call fire down on our position to have any chance of surviving.

Posted by: Mr. Happy-Ounce of Prevention, Pound of Cure

 

 

 

Chris Christie - is that you using that sock?

78 Screw it, let it burn.

79 The size, scope, and intrusiveness of government is never going to stop expanding in the sovereign United States. Never, as in never. The only hope of limited government is another sovereign. Draw your own conclusions.

80 Teh GOP blew winnable Senate races in 2010 & 2012 in... North Dakota (?!) Missouri (pre-clown) Delaware (which woman?) Indiana (who's your daddy) Colorado ('cuz I got high) Nevada (live boy/dead girl) Wisconsin (live girl/live girl) Virginia (Macaca II) If they had won these races, amnestia would be DOA. It's all fixed, just like the NFL. We're finished as a country, and it should never have come to this. Washington should not have this kind of power to wreck the nation.

81 I've been wondering lately...if the Dems were to achieve their goal of a permanent one-party totalitarian rule (and they are getting very close) who would become their Emmanuel Goldstein? They succeed by whipping up hatred. So who would they hate if they ruled everything? What subject matter would MSNBC's primetime lineup have with nobody left on the Right to hate (since their main, no, ONLY topic is "why Republicans are all racists and assholes and all Dems are pure and good and perfect.)

82

I agree that if the pubbies sign up for amnesty, they lose.

 

Here is the only game-changer I can see: a full-court press on the devastating impact of 11 milllion new "legals" on lower-middle-class jobs.  Even Lo-FOs can get their heads around that if it hammered home.

 

Unfortunately, The Boner doesn't seem to know how to play full-court, and can't use a hammer unless it is to smash his finger.

83 2 I'm not sure I agree. The Dems couldn't win the House in 2012 when they had a great turnout, why think they'd win it in 2014 when presumably fewer Dems will be expected to vote? --- Everything depends on how a bunch of small races play out. In Louisiana, for example, my Congressman, Dr. Bill Cassidy, is running against Sen. Mary Landrieu and I'm pretty sure LA law prevents him from running simultaneously for his House seat and her Senate seat. The only time a Dem has held that House seat in roughly 30 years was when Richard Baker resigned and "Blue Dog" Don Cazayoux won the special election because the Republican candidate, multi-time loser Woody Jenkins, inspired mass apathy amongst Republican voters. Cassidy wiped the floor with Cazayoux in the next general election, which was the 2008 cycle IIRC. If the local GOP puts up a shitbird candidate or the base is depressed, they could possibly lose that House seat regardless of how Cassidy does against Landrieu. In an election cycle where control of the House could be made or broken by a few seats, this kind of thing will loom large.

84 Speaking as an election judge in the belly of the beast that is Chicago, I can tell you from experience that most Obamabot-type voters don't even know that midterm elections exist. We see much more smarter-looking, informed voters at the polls when there isn't a president on the ballot. It may not be 2010 again, but I'm pretty confident the Dems aren't going to be gaining any ground in 2014.

85 Did we set up the Cock Fight Pick'em Leagues, yet?

86 I can see the GOP losing the House.

Boehner is a horrible leader who put politics above everything else. He has stood by and watch some of the worst pieces of legislation or imperialistic action by the president go unchallenged. As a citizen I would characterize his tenure by a bully analogy;  the bully has pummeled us for years as Boehner stood by and watched, simply because he cut a deal with the bully to not pick on him. In summary, he's disgraceful.

Cantor and McCarthy are no better. After getting significant help from conservatives to get elected, they turned around and kicked them in the nuts. Nobody likes them- not even Independents.

The coup de grace will be immigration. House members can hide all they want from voters and cut a deal to please their donors. But if people don't show up to vote, what good is any of that money? In fact, if you grew a pair and lead on easily articulated principles- you might not need all that cash.

Summarily, the GOP has not learned anything from the past. They still put politics over principles. Hence they don't even see the coming disaster. I hope they truly get a bunch of those illegal immigrants to vote for them, because right now most of us citizens aren't and that lack of turnout will hurt the party. Again.

87 Hopefully,  the GOP will update their campaign drive slogan to something better than -   "We promise not to do that thing in your mouth again"

88 Yup.  Conservatives are just gonna stay home -- just like in 2012 with Mitt. Boy, you showed him, huh?

89 "The cynic in me says the majority simply hasn't found Cruz's price yet, while the realist points out he makes up a whopping 1% of the Senate."

It wasn't all that long ago that a formerly obscure ward-heeler and Illinois state legislator was making up a whopping 1% of the Senate. But, that guy turned the political aggression up to eleven, and kept it there, and soon, he wasn't in the Senate any longer. He was in the White House.

90

Why on earth would I care about hers?

Posted by: Rickroll at August 16, 2013 10:50 AM (6VB4r)

 

-- Because your next boss could be worse?

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at August 16, 2013 10:56 AM (R8hU

 

Which has been the GOP rationale for every shitty candidate shoved down our throats since Ronaldus Maximus.

91 Now theyre talking about Christie winning huge in NJ. It's gonna be a lot closer than people think. The Republican Will Not Turn Out for Christie. Posted by: soothsayer lightfoot at August 16, 2013 10:41 AM (kqlZ Any conservative that doesn't want Christie to be our nominee in 2016 might want to make sure he goes down in flames now. The establishment won't touch a guy that lost his last reelection campaign. They'll brand him a loser and move on.

92 Be afraid? Nope, not really. If they flip the House what would happen? TFG would push his agenda unopposed. I don't see how that would be different than now.

93
I don't particularly fret about my boss being fired. Why? Because she's largely worthless and has no concern for my own interest. Why on earth would I care about hers?

Posted by: Rickroll at August 16, 2013 10:50 AM (6VB4r)

 

 

 

 

 

Speaker. Nancy. Pelosi.

Fuck, they have my vote again.

94 I'm surprised there hasn't been more mention of the way that Obama and Jack Lew have basically hit the snooze button on the debt clock for the last eighty-something days now. Posted by: torquewrench at August 16, 2013 10:58 AM

This is worthy of impeachment of Choom Boy and the removal of his felonious underlings like Lew.

It is neither possible nor legal to make the national debt go away by ignoring it. If anyone were fucking paying attention, it should be sparking a monetary crisis that would make October '29 look like a church picnic.

95 Which has been the GOP rationale for every shitty candidate shoved down our throats since Ronaldus Maximus.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 16, 2013 11:02 AM (zF6Iw)

 

-- I need to be specific, I was talking about the hypothetical boss not the GOP.

Fuck the GOP

96

This is spot-on.  The R's seem intent on creating a new base, and I think they are gonna get it if things don't change.

 

I know I'm done turning out for them unless I see actions.  Words are no longer enough.

97 Drew, you pegged it with "the opposition party almost always picks up seats". What may screw the R's is the visible fact that they are not an opposition party anymore. Why bother to vote for more of the same. If we had an opposition party I bet people would turn out in droves to vote for it.

98 it should be sparking a monetary crisis that would make October '29 look like a church picnic. Posted by: MrScribbler at August 16, 2013 11:04 AM (kaGpp) Oh It will, tick tick tick.

99 I have bad news for all you who believe conservatives didn't vote in 2012: We were Maxed Out in 2012. That's as good as it gets. There are just way more D voters in the US than R's, now.

100 Oh and I can't wait for another postmortem of the GOP. Especially the part where they miss the obvious cause of death, Again.

101 24 years voting Republican. 2014 will be the my first year voting straight-ticket Libertarian. Yellow fringe lunatics and hopped-up dope fiends, unite!

102 The GOP will lose the house if they embrace amnesty. If not, they will gain seats.

103

92 Any conservative that doesn't want Christie to be our nominee in 2016 might want to make sure he goes down in flames now.

 

An example of "strategic losing" actually accomplishing something for conservatism. However small, it's something.

104 88 Hopefully, the GOP will update their campaign drive slogan to something better than - "We promise not to do that thing in your mouth again"

Posted by: Roy at August 16, 2013 11:00 AM (VndSC)

Yes, the slogan we're working on now is "Just the Tip, We Swear to God!" Pretty nifty, eh?

105

We won the house in '94 after decades on the outside because Newt put forth a plan and everyone promised to carry it out.

 

It was an overwhelming sweep.  Massive win.

 

Let's review:

 

Plan = win

No plan = loss

 

Pop Quiz:

 

How can we win in the midterms?

 

A.   Have a plan.

 

B.   Don't have a plan.  Bitch at democrat's plan.

 

Take your time, no need to rush.  Consider the question and all the answers carefully.

 

Turn your work in when done.

106 100
I have bad news for all you who believe conservatives didn't vote in 2012: We were Maxed Out in 2012.

That's as good as it gets. There are just way more D voters in the US than R's, now.

Posted by: soothsayer lightfoot at August 16, 2013 11:05 AM (kqlZ

Yup. Demographics is destiny.

107 Any conservative that doesn't want Christie to be our nominee in 2016 might want to make sure he goes down in flames now. The establishment won't touch a guy that lost his last reelection campaign. They'll brand him a loser and move on.

Posted by: Vote Lord Humungus 2016 at August 16, 2013 11:02 AM (HEa5q)

 

Are you really sure of that?  They just ran a guy that didn't even bother trying to seek reelection.

108 If the Republicans lose the House Democrats will pass ObamaCare and we will have to put the Republcans back in charge of the House to get rid of ObamaCare. If that doesn't work, the Supreme Court will get rid of it. Wait. Fuck it. Gasoline, match, some assembly required.

109 The Dems couldn't win the House in 2012 when they had a great turnout, why think they'd win it in 2014 when presumably fewer Dems will be expected to vote? Because the Dem Vote Fraud Machine is bigger, better and has the support of numerous federal government bureaucracies emboldened by the lack of punitive action against them. Remember, the IRS, EPA, DoJ, and the Media are all hopelessly liberal and In The Tank, but the electoral process is squeaky clean.

110 Not only NOT science fiction, for my money the most likely scenario.

111 Do not let the GOP grind you down into sullen complacency.

NOT ONE RED CENT for the RNC and its DC welfare plan.  But DO donate to primary challengers to as many GOP incumbents as you can... and then, in 2014.  VOTE AGAINST THE DEMOCRAT.

OK, except maybe for Graham, McConnell and Boehner, but still... get out there and vote as if your kids' life depended on it.

112 "requires U.S. residents to pay a $2,600 penalty for each use of inappropriate language. Thus far, only New York Rep. Anthony Weiner has faced criminal charges under the new penalties, according to the ACLU."
http://tinyurl.com/ol9n8ro

Take a break and lol but not in the office cause I just caused a commotion. 

Needed an antidote to matt continetti's piece.

113 Election Day 2014?  I think I have to check the air in my tires that day.  Including the spare.

114 When the going gets tough, Liberals get weird and do whatever it takes to win.

Conservatives just sulk.

Obama dares anyone to try to dethrone him as King.

Republicans in Congress worry that if they stop funding the Executive Branch, their favorite hooker might find out and there'll be no more blowjobs or anal, just endless aging years masturbating in the shower.

This Republican Congress couldn't have freed itself from Lichtenstein in 1781. Maybe from the oppression of The Wiggles, but never Lichtenstein.

115
The Dems couldn't win the House in 2012 when they had a great turnout, why think they'd win it in 2014 when presumably fewer Dems will be expected to vote?
Posted by: steve




The common wisdom from the Republican intelligentsia going into the election eve was Mitt was the odds on favorite, at least a split in the Senate was a lock, and the House looked safe.

Reality showed the Republicans significantly under performed expectations, to put it nicely. Painful experience shows that if you have to bet the rent money, assume that Republicans will eff it up.

116

Well, the GOP is offering the conservatives a real choice, you know. Socialism as opposed to Socialism lite. Who wouldn't be chomping at the bit to go vote?

Idiots.

117 Any conservative prezzy candidate will need the base. That base is the Tea Party. The Tea party will not work for rinos. That's that.

118 Jerry Pournelle (sci fi writer and former poli sci prof) as King Log vs. King Stork as in Aesop's Fables.  King Log just sits there and does nothing for or to the frogs (e.g. Republican officeholders) versus King Stork (Dems) who literally devours the frog republic. 

"Better no rule than cruel rule". 

Sorry, can't get Tinyurl to load today.
http://www.aesopfables.com/cgi/aesop1.cgi?sel&TheFrogsDesiringaKing 

Hmm.  Might want to structure an Amer. Govt. class over this fable. 

119

Some of  the ulama (Islamic clerics) have made the jihad in Egypt fard kifaya (obligatory on the whole ummah), a concept I learned about in Bin Laden's 1998 fatwa against the US and our "allies".  

 

So anyway, about that civil war in Egypt I predicted here   several  months ago  along with the end of Christianity in Egypt and Syria.  At the time I thought maybe I was being overly pessimistic. 

 

Maybe, for once, Obama and his people would be right.  Yeah, no.        

120 100 Soothsayer,

I don't buy that too many GOP leaning voters I knew in Ohio sat out, that said Free Shit Army did have Walt Disney Reinforcements from the DeDe Jenital Catfish Rachel Jeintal Auxilla...

if the best the GOP can offer is McCain gang I am past giving a fuck.

121 where can I find the podcast? Didn't see a link for it on the main page... HELP?

122 "How can we win in the midterms?  A. Have a plan"

The trougher wing DO have a plan. It's just that the plan sucks. It's more passive accommodation crap.

The Republicans should be running on the huge scandal that ordinary Joes and Janes are being forced into Obamacare, but meanwhile, the Congress are not thus being forced. Nor are most of the rest of the federal aristocracy.

The Republicans should be making an "everybody in OR everybody out" pitch on Obamacare. Either total repeal, or no exceptions.

Instead, the trougher wing are terrified that they themselves might get stuck in Obamacare, and they'll do anything to buy themselves out of that morass.

123

If immigration passes my vote wont matter.  The GOP will have proven by passing immigration that they don't want my vote now or ever. 

 

If immigration passes I wont stay home.  I will go to the voting booth and write on my ballot that since the GOP doesn't want to win as proven by passing immigration that they can kiss my ass and shove the ballot up their collective asses.

124

 VOTE AGAINST THE DEMOCRAT.

 

Nope, not any more.  If I can't get my turncoat sellout via the primary, I will vote for the Dem.

 

I told him I would if he voted immigration out of the Senate, and I'm a man of my word.

 

I am NOT the R party's bitch.

125

I've been wondering lately...if the Dems were to achieve their goal of a permanent one-party totalitarian rule (and they are getting very close) who would become their Emmanuel Goldstein?

 

Paula Deen is calling from the white courtesy phone.

126 >>Any conservative prezzy candidate will need the base. That base is the Tea Party. The Tea party will not work for rinos. That's that. Kinda works the other way too. Run a Christine O'Donnell and the dreaded Establishment won't be there. Gotta be a candidate that appeals to both.

127 Consider my hands up. The Republican party has no interest in limited government. They just want to be the ones in charge of an ever growing, ever more intrusive government.

128

So it looks like almost everyone here wants the Republicans to lose the House.  At least that is consistent with  LIB and actually goes farther to MIB. 

 

Hope all are prepared. 

129 I live in Moran's district. He's safe I'm screwed.

130 So anyway, about that civil war in Egypt I predicted here several months ago along with the end of Christianity in Egypt and Syria. At the time I thought maybe I was being overly pessimistic.

Maybe, for once, Obamaand his people would be right. Yeah, no.

Posted by: Beagle at August 16, 2013 11:11 AM (sOtz/)

The question now is whether the military is ruthless enough to crush the MB now that they are out from beneath their rocks. Bambi has nothing to do with anything in Egypt and would only make things worse if he did.

131 >>That's as good as it gets. There are just way more D voters in the US than R's, now.

Not necessarily more legitimate voters*, just more votes cast. You're welcome. Also, thank Eric Holder and his crusade to eliminate every state's Voter ID/"Poll Tax" law to ensure continued Dem victories.

*That's the reason why the TX "True the Vote" organization was harassed by so many fed agencies.

132 >>So it looks like almost everyone here wants the Republicans to lose the House. At least that is consistent with LIB and actually goes farther to MIB. >>Hope all are prepared. Sounds like Preibus wants to lose the House. Calling people who want the law enforced racists is a damn good way to get millions of people to stay home. I hope he's prepared.

133

106

How can we win in the midterms?

We could also add this:

C. Let's bitch at each /and stay silent about Democrats.

134 Gotta be a candidate that appeals to both. Posted by: JackStraw at August 16, 2013 11:13 AM (g1DWB) And that person has not been born.

135 conservatives throwing up their hands and saying, whatÂ’s the point?

Uh no.  There are several Republican incumbents who I am very much motivated to turn out and vote for the demoncrat, should they survive their primary challenge.

136 You'll vote for us and like it. Oh go ahead and threaten third party, throw your vote away! You know you'll come crawling back! PS - Don't forget to donate

137 We're fucked. We don't have representation in government. Just be at peace with it. I am tired of trying to motivate politicians to do things they don't really believe in. Let it burn.

138 What are they going to do with all the unnecessary Democratic strategists?  Camp guards I guess.  

139 "The common wisdom from the Republican intelligentsia going into the election eve was Mitt was the odds on favorite, at least a split in the Senate was a lock, and the House looked safe."

This was not only the common wisdom from the Republican intelligentsia, but from a bunch of otherwise sensible conservative bloggers who should have known better.

When I started hearing "Relax. We got this," and similar sentiments in the last two weeks of the race, I knew that disaster impended. People got lax and sloppy and overconfident.

The GOP needs to relearn that you run every second of a political race as though you're ten points behind, no matter what the polls say. You never let up and never slack off, not even after the adversary's concession speech is delivered.

140 Maybe a collapse ain't so bad.....hell the Russians are still alive and most are living better.

141 Here's a winning idea - Reince Prebus: Mitt Romney's 'Self-Deportation' Quote Was 'Racist' Racey Racist Racism!

142

If guys are determined to vote for the Democrat instead of the other,   just 'cuz, let us know how it works out.

 

Also, let us know how cutting off your dick works to help get rid of that annoying  drip,  drip,  drip  thing.

143 Hope all are prepared.

Posted by: polynikes

 

That's about right (on being resolved to lose the House) and I am prepared.

 

Not like the House is doing much to stop SCOAMF anyway.

144 130 Compelling argument. Emotional blackmail. Same old threadbare horseflop.

145 Who is booker running against jersey cause that is an easy win in the senate.  Everyone loves booker, including crispy.

Guess crispy will jump to the presidential race from the governorship and booker will follow the obama route from the senate.

146 Help It Burn.

147 Not to mention the SCOAMF's constant coffer building. Where do we think that money is going? Carefully targeted districts, as in Romney's loss election. The unions are being paid to gotv, while not doing their day jobs. The rugrats are being paid to go door to door. The LiV's are being paid... Money is flowing on the dem side to win. What have we got?

148 Maybe a collapse ain't so bad.....hell the Russians are still alive and most are living better. Posted by: BignJames at August 16, 2013 11:17 AM (ZNQKl) Their population was not as armed, narcissistic or psychotic. This country is thirty days away and any given time of going up in flames. Just turn the FKN water off in the cities and watch.

149 I think there have been many honorable people that went to Washington to do the right things. Then a combination of lifestyle, millions of $ in available graft and a constant drone of dissatisfaction from hostile constituents made them say fuck you, pay me. Posted by: Oldsailors
------------------

That seems to be the pattern for conservatives, or at least for Republicans. One cannot put aside the fact that for those on the Left, the environment is native to them, and they flourish without compromise.

Active engagement is simply contrary to the nature of most conservatives. It seems that Wm. Buckley's admonition that the conservative's job of 'Standing athwart history and shouting, "Stop" is correct, and yet it requires an unnatural (to conservatives) nature to actually do that in a meaningful way. We are occasionally heartened when a Gowdy, Cruz, Demint, or such stands up and says something, but they are few.

My feelings remain that the media are the real enablers of the Left, and I doubt that any changes will come about in the absence of a shift in the perspective of the media.

150 Regarding Priebus's comments--

Upon further reflection--This is clearly both triangulation, and an attempt to read out an element, not out of principled disagreements, but to buy protection.

Done, done, done, done, done, done. I will not be triangulated against and demonized just so the Chamber of Commerce can have cheap wage-slave labor and some hack can have a good lifestyle in D.C. as part of the new nobility.

151 remember "Romney Within 7 in Wisconsin!!"?

152 I plan to stay home.

153

So it looks like almost everyone here wants the Republicans to lose the House.

 

I don't want them to.  I would rather they win and advance a conservative agenda, which includes pimp-slapping the Dope-In-Chief.  But since they are actively pissing in my face with Obastardcare waivers and the Cuban Combover's amnesty, I prefer the current seat-warmers lose.

 

At least that is consistent with LIB and actually goes farther to MIB.

Hope all are prepared.

 

Posted by: polynikes at August 16, 2013 11:13 AM (m2CN7)

 

As prepared as I can be without knowing what will really happen.  But if tossing shitstains like Rubio out is the only way to get their attention, then that's what it will have to be.

154
Kinda works the other way too. Run a Christine O'Donnell and the dreaded Establishment won't be there.
Posted by: JackStraw




The Republicans(tm) don't have that many actual voters, and the ones they do are concentrated in Blue States that are lost for the foreseeable future. That's one of the reasons their preferred candidates keep getting stomped.

What they do have are endorsements as a gatekeeper, and donor lists, both of which have decreasing value given the official party's performance. The official party is increasingly a paper tiger.

155 Spongebob - Were you the one who's antenna took a lightening hit the other night? I forget...

156 It  could be fun to vote for  Wendy "Pink Shoes" Davis in the  Dem primary for TX Gov.  Then wait for the emstompening by Abbott.

157

Also, let us know how cutting off your dick works to help get rid of that annoying drip, drip, drip thing.

 

The sooner you have the surgery, the sooner you can start to heal.

 

Besides, I'm a spiteful sonofabitch and I don't like being lied to.

158

Here's  my  plan  for  the  2014  midterms:

Whatever  Karl  Rove  suggests,  do  the  opposite.

With  that  guy  failure  is  not  an  option,  it  is  a  certainty.

159

Remember "Romney Within 7 in Wisconsin!!"?
Posted by: soothsayer





Remember "Mccain is surging in California" in October 2008?

Good times, good times.

160 Sounds like Preibus wants to lose the House. Calling people who want the law enforced racists is a damn good way to get millions of people to stay home.

I hope he's prepared.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 16, 2013 11:15 AM (g1DWB)

 

He is just taking his cues from Newt Gingrich, who earlier said basically the same thing.   I'm not making a judgement one way or the other regard to people who are in the LIB camp.  I'm in the everyman for themself camp which is probably aligned closer to the LIB.   I'm just pointing out that wanting or assisting the Republicans to lose the House is closer to MIB and for that , one should be prepared for the consequences.    I don't care if Preibus is prepared or not.   

161 If we had an opposition party I bet people would turn out in droves to vote for it. We should have started building it last November.

162 There is always the possibility that the GOP looses the House but picks up the Senate, especially if the primaries go wllÂ…

163 What's Preezy Man-Child up to? Pool is told POTUS, FLOTUS, Sasha and Malia are on the bike ride. Pool did not see POTUS. His motorcade turned onto a road leading to the park, and pool vans were turned around to drive several miles in the opposite direction. Currently we are pretty far away from POTUS. But pool is told weÂ’re going to a spot to view the family during their ride. There will be photos. YES!

164 Their population was not as armed, narcissistic or psychotic. This country is thirty days away and any given time of going up in flames. Just turn the FKN water off in the cities and watch. Posted by: Oldsailors Poet just bought a seven dollar pound of hamburger. at August 16, 2013 11:20 AM (XIxXP) interesting times

165

But pool is told weÂ’re going to a spot to view the family during their ride. There will be photos.

 

Mom jean's, girls bike and pink helmet?

166

The Republicans(tm) don't have that many actual voters, and the ones they do are concentrated in Blue States that are lost for the foreseeable future. That's one of the reasons their preferred candidates keep getting stomped.

You do know that Republicans hold 30 Governorships right?

167 Jeb Bush, people. Jeb's gonna make it all better.

168 166Reminds me I need a reloading session. I'm running low.

169 >>The Republicans(tm) don't have that many actual voters, and the ones they do are concentrated in Blue States that are lost for the foreseeable future. That's one of the reasons their preferred candidates keep getting stomped. See I don't buy this. I keep hearing that conservatives outnumber establishment types yet there has never been a candidate true cons wanted since Reagan. If the true con base was as big as some keep insisting that wouldn't be the case. In 2008 it was Fred!, last cycle it was Perry. Both finished at the bottom of the pack. But if its true then its time for the Tea Party to split and run their own candidate. If they've got the votes then lets go.

170 If the GOP doesn't win the Senate, I'd just as soon they lose the House. Having just 1/2 of one arm of government gets nothing accomplished, but simply gives Democrats someone to blame it on.

171 Awwww, no one took the regular troll up on his little homework assignment.

172 New type of concern troll discovered: "I'm a SUPER conservative and I'm STAYING HOME." So, what's the pay like at OFA these days, guys?

173 The GOP leadership is destroying the GOP

174 Boehner after sleeping like a baby election night said in a interview on abc

"I may not like the five cards that have been dealt to me, but those are the cards I've got in my hand, and my job on behalf of the American people is to find a way to vote with my Democratic colleagues and a Democratic president to solve America's problems," he said. "If there was one mandate that came out of the election, it was find a way to work together to address our problems."

175 The Democrats would have to win back all the swing districts they lost in 2010 to regain control of the House.  That includes 5 seats in eastern PA and also the Keith Rothfus seat (the old John Murtha district.)  They are not going to win any of those.  Democrats have not even found second-tier candidates to run against them.  They are not hiding from voters and all are out there raising plenty of money.  There is no way the Dems can win back the House without winning back any of these seats.

176
You do know that Republicans hold 30 Governorships right?
Posted by: polynikes




Assuming you're referring to Republican governors in Blue States such as Christie --  that "Republican" is pretty darned nuanced. And seems to have limited influence in helping winning other races in that state, including that for President.

177

>>>Gotta be a candidate that appeals to both.

 

WTF does that matter? Nominate the Tea Party candidate and back them. They'll become Establishment shortly after. Win-Win, I guess???

178  Republicans seem to want to work more for the Progressives than America.

I have gotten this idea from watching the lack of standing up by republicans / standing up by anyone but a couple lone reporters and 1 atf guy on fast and furious.

who is  openly standing up re Benghazi? where's Ham, Petreaus, etc?

179 Well we certainly cannot lose anymore pube seats, 'cuz golly,  the opposition party will be even weaker than it is now. Yeah, that sure has been a winning strategy, hasn't it? Fuck it! Chastisement is supposed to hurt like a bitch. So, we'll see if there's anything that can be salvaged from the village once it has been burned completely down. Of course that scenario will be absolutely dependent on the good guys wresting control of the armed forces.

180 Assuming you're referring to Republican governors in Blue States such as Christie -- that "Republican" is pretty darned nuanced. And seems to have limited influence in helping winning other races in that state, including that for President.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 16, 2013 11:34 AM (kdS6q)

 

That's one.  What about the other 29?  Romney I believe won 25 states IIRC. Maybe 24.   I understand the LIB mentality but it should not be because  of the belief that  the Dem voters far outnumber us.  

181 Re 2014, it will not be a replay of 2010, IMHO.  The big game changer is Obamacare and its millions of dollars set aside for enrollment drives. These enrollment navigators" will also do voter reg.

So in essence the Old Community Organizer in chief is using Obamacare to fund his voter drives. They already know where all the LIV voters are; they will simply establish contact and keep it up until Election Day 2014. They will drive them to the polls. They will scare them into thinking the GOP will take away their food stamps and now their "free" medical care too.

Obamacare: Voter outreach 2012 on steroids, paid for by we the taxpayers.

182 All the GOP has to do to keep the House is to do nothing. No one expects them to actually get anything past the Senate or the Whitehouse. That's all they have to do, yet they are incapable of doing even that!

183
If the true con base was as big as some keep insisting that wouldn't be the case.
Posted by: JackStraw




The party has a conservative voter base, but not a conservative leadership or funding base.  And unfortunately, that's the gatekeeper role that gets the moderate candidate through the primaries, just to lose in the general.

184

New type of concern troll discovered: "I'm a SUPER conservative and I'm STAYING HOME."

So, what's the pay like at OFA these days, guys?

 

Posted by: DriveBy at August 16, 2013 11:32 AM (C9Vc

 

A little better than what Rove's paying you, chucklenuts.

185 DC is a hall of mirrors. If the ghost of Christmas past led 1974 John Hanoi Hilton McCain through a series of future events, 1984 John "Mr. Smith Goes to Washington" McCain wouldn't recognize 2013 John Gollum McCain.

186 Let.
It.
Burn.

187
That's one. What about the other 29?
Posted by: polynikes




The last two Republican governors of Florida.

188 McCain sept 2008.

“And let me offer an advance warning to the old, big spending, do nothing, me first, country second Washington crowd: Change is coming.”

McCain discussed his time as a prisoner of war in the Vietnam War and what it did for him, changing him from a self-serving, independent person into a man who put America first.

“I’m not running for president because I think I’m blessed with such personal greatness that history has anointed me to save our country in its hour of need,” McCain said to laughs.

“My country saved me, and I cannot forget it. And I will fight for her for as long as I draw breath, so help me God.”

Building up to perhaps the most powerful moment in the evening, McCain continued to say he will fight every day as the president.

“I’m going to fight to make sure every American has every reason to thank God, as I thank him,” he said.

“That I’m an American, a proud citizen of the greatest country on earth, and with hard work, strong faith and a little courage, great things are always within our reach.”

Then he encouraged everybody to fight with him, and the crowd immediately stood up and begin cheering.

Rather than pausing, McCain provoked them more by speaking over their cheers, telling them what they should be fighting    for.

“Fight for what’s right for our country. Fight for the ideals and character of a free people. Fight for our children’s future,” McCain said, the yells of the audience growing with each sentence.

“Stand up for each other. For beautiful, blessed, bountiful America.”


yeah sure.

189

#178 Christie got elected because voters in New Jersey finally had had enough of the corruption and waste foisted on them by a series of clownish Democratic governors.  Christie ran as the grownup, the fierce prosecutor who fought corruption and won, who would put a stop to the New Jersey jokes.  It was not really a Republican/Democrat election, it was a Corrupt Bastard vs. Honest Prosecutor election.  This is why Christie hasn't been able to grow the Party very much, though it has picked up a few seats in the state legislature. 

 

In a way it gives me hope for America, because the Democrats have screwed up America as badly as they did New Jersey, and at some point people do get fed up and vote the bastards out.  But there has to be a grownup as an alternative.  I personally think Christie could be that guy, but I'm not convinced.  My big fear is tat Hillary runs as the grownup and the GOP runs an inexperienced clown.

190 'so help me G-d.'

yeah . shame on them.

191 Hope all are prepared.

Posted by: polynikes at August 16, 2013 11:13 AM (m2CN7)

Funny how you seem to think that it makes any fucking difference whether the Dems take over or not. The GOP establishment is no different from the Dem establishment. The Dems want one party rule, and the GOP is fucking on board with it. Why should I vote for that shit?

192 174 DriveBy,

How many years have I been here?

If OFA's paying me it must be in angst bucks...because all I am feeling these days is dread.

193 In a way it gives me hope for America, because the Democrats have screwed up America as badly as they did New Jersey, and at some point people do get fed up and vote the bastards out. But there has to be a grownup as an alternative. I personally think Christie could be that guy, but I'm not convinced. My big fear is tat Hillary runs as the grownup and the GOP runs an inexperienced clown.

Posted by: rockmom at August 16, 2013 11:46 AM (Ea7Up)

 

Grown ups don't draw hearts around pictures of Barack Obama.

 

Christie may be a grownup in the fucked up hell hole that is New Jersery politics.  But he's a petulant child in the country.

194

 New type of concern troll discovered: "I'm a SUPER conservative and I'm STAYING HOME."
 

 

So.........I guess you are calling Ace a concern troll?  He has pretty much said the same thing. (Not Super Conservative, but tired of being lied to).

I believe his statement wan along the lines of "The divorce is final"

195 Representative government in Washington DC is in reality a fantasy.

The GOP is in the business of staying in business.

They have more in common with the opposition than in being the opposition, except when they are dealing with or confronted by freedom loving Constitutional Conservatives.

196 186 MP4,

You gotta admit it is neat material...

Sven J Olafson....

Axelbot....

hey GOP fuck you...enjoy.

197 195 Buzzion,

Now Buzz Rockmom thinks DonkeyLand may be ready for grown-ups...and nothing says grown-up like a fucking human tank being jealous of Reggie Love and Writing "Chris Christie-Obama" on his trapper keeper for two months...

198 Oh, be sure that I'm very much considering the whole "what's the point" option.

199 I say DOOM!
Let it burn.
Lets see all the rats and cockroaches in the light of day.
Then and only then does redress so crucial to preservation of Liberty begin on a scale and scope that assures victory.

200 The democrats losing the house is obviously a bad thing. But the GOP is practically finished as a political party at this point. Mitt Romney's supporters are the primary culprits... there is no purpose behind a party that liberal when we have a democrat party. It is time to start a new political party. I hope it is focused on freedom and privacy and limited government (and limited spending) and not on much else.

201 Here's the scoop: The Republicans have given up. The communists stole the last election, and they are preparing to steal every 'election' yet to come. O is going to jam down immigration, rendering the GOP obsolete---Rubio admitted as much. So the pragmatic part of the GOP is siding with Obeyme hoping to retain some power. We'll retain the outward appearance of a two-party system, but it'll be like Illinois. It's over. We're out of time. Obeyme goes nowhere in 2016. Or 2020.

202 Any conservative that doesn't want Christie to be our nominee in 2016 might want to make sure he goes down in flames now. The establishment won't touch a guy that lost his last reelection campaign. They'll brand him a loser and move on.

Posted by: Vote Lord Humungus 2016 at August 16, 2013 11:02 AM (HEa5q)

Ain't gonna happen. He will be overwhelmingly re-elected here in NJ. He's even getting support from Democrat mayors for his "after Sandy" performance. Overall, he's been good for NJ.

http://tinyurl.com/kcrt6aw

203 Now theyre talking about Christie winning huge in NJ.

It's gonna be a lot closer than people think. The Republican Will Not Turn Out for Christie.

Posted by: soothsayer lightfoot at August 16, 2013 10:41 AM

I'd actually laugh my ass off if the fat fuck actually lost. It's not like it's going to make any difference if NJ has a Dem in charge other than teachers unions getting their sweet deals back

204 The RNC has not yet acknowleged that Rep. Ami Bera is not a woman. I corrected them in response to their plea for money here in California.

Bera beat Dan Lungren and is now my congressional representative.

Shall I quote Hillary about "difference?"

Posted by: DM at August 16, 2013 10:42 AM (iwffa)

DM: Where in Sactown are you? I was in Lungren's district until reapportionment put me in Ditzy Doris Matsui's district. I think the reapportionment is what gave the crypto Demunist Ami Bera the ability to unseat Lungren.

 

205 For along, long time I have been focused on the demoncRATs and leftist uber progs as the fountain of our country's bitter self-driven decline.  My enlightenment has come this year with Rubio and the House Leadership on so-called immigration reform.  They've unmasked themselves, removing all pretense of representing the majority center-right of our country.  We must focus on renewing the conservative movement, not to defeat Obama, but rather his willing accomplices in the statist establishment RNC.  They are the true enemy, as without their craven sellout, Obama would have nothing in since 2010.

206

I wouldn't give a rat's ass if the Fat Fuck and the rest of the Bush Family's retainers and caporegimes go down in flames.

They've been stabbing conservatives in the back for fifty years now, ever since the Goldwater-Miller nomination at the Cow Palace in San Francisco in 1964. Shoot, the only "centrist" to stand by Barry back then was Nixon, and that's because he shrewdly understood that he would need the conservatives in 1968. It paid off, in spades, when Tricky Dick was challenged by that whippersnapper young Governor from California, who was told by Strom Thurmond to bide his time, that his day would come.

The Moderates are in the Pay of K-Street. They will stab us in the back. Bet on it. They stabbed Palin in the back when she kept the Tea Party people on board in 2009 and 2010.

It's what they do. Fuck 'em.

 

 

207 Under these conditions itÂ’s very easy to see conservatives throwing up their hands and saying, whatÂ’s the point? Then they'll get all the socialism they didn't vote against and all the tax hikes they also didn't vote against. If that's the way they want to go, then I will call them out and tell them to not be such pussies. Just vote Democrat.

208 Obeyme goes nowhere in 2016. Or 2020.

***

Good.  Then the shooting starts.

209 VOTE AGAINST THE DEMOCRAT.


Nope, not any more. If I can't get my turncoat sellout via the primary, I will vote for the Dem.

I told him I would if he voted immigration out of the Senate, and I'm a man of my word.

I am NOT the R party's bitch.

Posted by: FITP at August 16, 2013 11:13 AM (M5HFX)

Uh no. NEVER vote for the Commiecrat. If your GOP general election candidate is a RINO putz, then Vote for the "American Independent / US Taxpayers/ Constitution / whatever they are calling themselves in your state" Party, but NEVER vote for the Commiecrat.

210

3rd party has NO chance of taking Lamar Alexander out.  I don't merely want to register my displeasure with a contrarian vote, I want him GONE.  Its the only thing they will understand.

 

Same goes for Corker when his time comes.....in fact, he is worse, just hasn't been at it as long.

211

Then your vote will be misinterpreted as Commiecrat support. Registering displeasure would be better in that case.

212 There are only so many "accidents" and only so much "complacency" and only so much "mishandling" that one Party can engage in before one has to reasonably conclude that the Party has long ago been infiltrated by the Opposition.

213 The advantage of making outlier predictions - or mentioning possibilities, as is the case here - is that no one remembers them later UNLESS something close comes to pass, in which case those who mentioned these things can refer to them and appear prescient.

When Paul Krugman wailed against some Clinton policy in his first year which he claimed would lead to recession, Carville noted, "We need to listen to Krugman, he's successfully predicted 19 of the last three recessions."

214 "I donÂ’t think ObamaÂ’s voters will show up any more than they usually do but I think the GOPÂ’s may stay home."

Dead nuts on. 

I sure as shit will not vote this time for my representative, John Carter, after he voted to continue funding the NSA's blanket spying on Americans.  And if John Cornyn survives his primary challenge (likely), I goddamn sure won't be going to the polls for his sorry beltway ass either.

215

Lucy promises *this* time she won't pull the football when Charlie Brown tries yet another kick.

Yah, fuck you spineless GOP sellouts. I'm not wasting my time on you.

216 "Right now thereÂ’s a lot of conservative displeasure with the House and..."

Got that right. The House is supposed to be controlled by the opposition and they haven't done much opposing lately.

217 I hate defeatism and despair. Still, I cannot help thinking this: If the Republicans pass amnesty, in any form (no matter how prettied-up), they are choosing to be the minority party for-ev-er. Period. 10-20 million new Democratic voters will kill the party on a national level. It will be a rump party of the West and the South (the West rapidly fading), and will lose the Senate and the House and never win them back. Governorships? Sure. State Legislatures? Probably. Individual House or Senate seats? Absolutely. But a Presidency? No. A majority in the House and Senate? No. And the party will be forced to tack left, sharply, just to compete. And Republicans will abandon Conservatives. And we will have European legislature, split between "Left of Left of Center" and "Right of Left of Center". Someone tell me how I can be wrong about this. Please.

218

You're wrong about this. It will be 30 mil, not 10-20 mil

 

219 You are not wrong.

Alienating thy own base is the surest path to making them stay home, ensuring the GOP loses the House in 14. Passing amnesty will do it.

Game. Set. Match.