July 17, 2013

Ben Bernanke: Well Sure ObamaCare Reduces Employment!
— Ace

You don't say.

Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke acknowledged that Obamacare regulations have caused employers to hire part-time workers, rather than full-time employees, but refused to say if Congress should delay the lawÂ’s mandates.

“[O]ne thing that we hear, you know, in the commentary we get at the FOMC is that some employers are hiring part-time in order to avoid the mandate there,” Bernanke told Rep. Marlin Stutzman, R-Ind., during a House hearing. “So we have heard that.”

White House Press Secretary Jay Carney adopted the opposite position during the press briefing Tuesday. “I would say broadly that if you look at the economic data, the suggestion that the [Affordable Care Act] is reducing full-time employment is belied by the facts,” Carney said.

Yes, I'm sure Jay Carney is looking through all the economic data.

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1 Carney is a good name for him.

Posted by: dfbaskwill at July 17, 2013 11:24 AM (71LDo)

2 Carney is a good name for him.

Tiny hands and smells of cabbage?

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at July 17, 2013 11:25 AM (pgQxn)

3 What, you expect me to give you advice about the economy? BWAhahahahaha!

Posted by: Helicopter Ben at July 17, 2013 11:25 AM (RD7QR)

4  imagine that the laws of accounting & econ are laws....

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 17, 2013 11:26 AM (LRFds)

5 Carney would say that. And then go pray his hours don't get cut.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 17, 2013 11:26 AM (4uuzV)

6 Jay Carney, the only WH Press Secretary who makes Ron Ziegler appear competent and honest.

Posted by: Athos at July 17, 2013 11:27 AM (SNaPm)

7 That Carney boy has a head on his shoulders.

Posted by: Josef Goebbels at July 17, 2013 11:27 AM (8ZskC)

8 In my two years as an actual carney of a traveling carnival in the summers, I often felt bad for duping people into spending money to throw ping pong balls to try to win a goldfish. These bastards have no shame bankrupting the entire Country to fund Progressive Slush Funds in perpetuity.  That's one evil carney.

Posted by: dfbaskwill at July 17, 2013 11:27 AM (71LDo)

9

 

“I would say broadly that if you look at the economic data, the suggestion that the [Affordable Care Act] is reducing full-time employment is belied by the facts,” Carney said.

 

 

 

Carney barker?     "Belied" does not mean what you think it means, you insecure    metrosexual  limp dicked     dweeb.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at July 17, 2013 11:27 AM (4df7R)

10 How is delaying it's implication going to change things? The employers are still not going to hire full time and when and if the law does go into effect, they will again not hire full time.

Posted by: waldo at July 17, 2013 11:28 AM (cjFRv)

11 imagine that the laws of accounting econ are laws.... MORE laws they don't have to follow!

Posted by: rickb223 at July 17, 2013 11:28 AM (4uuzV)

12 Opposing Obamacare is just racist! And, pixie dust will make it all OK. Republicans (other than Senate Republicans): Please report to your nearest reeducation facilities.

Posted by: Drat! Belied By The Facts! at July 17, 2013 11:28 AM (qjFNd)

13 More Jackassery from Carnster...

Posted by: Daniel Simpson Day at July 17, 2013 11:28 AM (aA2hG)

14

I trust in Obama, I really, really, really, really do, he wouldn't lie to us, ever.

 

Posted by: a lifelong progressive at July 17, 2013 11:29 AM (AnfcZ)

15 implication = implementation

Posted by: waldo at July 17, 2013 11:29 AM (cjFRv)

16

Doesn't sound like BB agreed with the statements or that he provided data to back it up, only that they've heard the rumors.

 

/nothingburger, from someone that never sez that

Posted by: Bigby's Soapy Hands at July 17, 2013 11:29 AM (3ZtZW)

17 Yes, I'm sure Jay Carney is looking through all the economic data.


His epic lying is only exceeded by the Choom King and Holder the criminal.

Posted by: Vic at July 17, 2013 11:29 AM (lZvxr)

18 That Carney boy has a head on his shoulders. Pimples do that.

Posted by: George Orwell crosseyed and painless at July 17, 2013 11:30 AM (mCNwt)

19 Then there's no reason to delay the employer mandate. Right? RIGHT?

Posted by: Clownf*cker at July 17, 2013 11:30 AM (kZVsz)

20 Trayvon Martin died to guarantee the right of all Americans to affordable health care.

Posted by: Jay Carney at July 17, 2013 11:30 AM (8ZskC)

21 There's a deal in here somewhere!

Posted by: John McCain at July 17, 2013 11:30 AM (qjFNd)

22 We're gonna need a bigger press.

Posted by: Ben Bernanke at July 17, 2013 11:30 AM (8ZskC)

23 Witness the coming of the Credentialed Class!

The seas fall and the winds die! Everything bad is made good!

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at July 17, 2013 11:30 AM (xvZYu)

24 Yes, BUT the NY Slime says NY State health insurance will be 50% lower under Obamacare. Really, its the lead story. Go figure? http://tinyurl.com/pf6ytco

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 17, 2013 11:31 AM (wR+pz)

25 If you think it reduces employment in "companies," wait until you see the impact on the healthcare industry. Lots and lots of pain coming for the sake of Obamapelosi's dream.

Posted by: Mr Pee Pee at July 17, 2013 11:31 AM (DrC22)

26 Hey, I only know what I read in the paper.

Posted by: Jay Carney at July 17, 2013 11:31 AM (8ZskC)

27

"Facts"

I'm not sure Carney understands what those are.

 

Posted by: RS at July 17, 2013 11:32 AM (YAGV/)

28 11 rickb223,

economics is not a law they can ignore without blowback it's going to exert it's judgement with an invisible pimp slap....

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 17, 2013 11:32 AM (LRFds)

29 At some point, you've done enough breathing.

Posted by: Barky O'Genius at July 17, 2013 11:32 AM (8ZskC)

30 That thing in your mouth is a reduced premium.

Posted by: George Orwell crosseyed and painless at July 17, 2013 11:33 AM (mCNwt)

31 29 Barky O'genius,

and at some point you've done enough leading

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 17, 2013 11:34 AM (LRFds)

32
**BOLO Alert**

Be on the lookout for Posted by: soothsayer at July 17, 2013 03:28 PM (/EkKm) for impersonating me.

Posted by: soothsayer at July 17, 2013 11:34 AM (Fely/)

33 How is delaying it's implication going to change things? The employers are still not going to hire full time and when and if the law does go into effect, they will again not hire full time.

Posted by: waldo


Because, immigration reform! That's why, serf.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at July 17, 2013 11:34 AM (xvZYu)

34 Obamacare: millions of layoffs created or saved.

Posted by: X at July 17, 2013 11:34 AM (KHo8t)

35 If you like your full-time job, you can keep your part-time job.

Posted by: Splunge at July 17, 2013 11:35 AM (bKA83)

36 Posted by: soothsayer at July 17, 2013 03:34 PM (Fely/)


How do we know you're the real soothsayer?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 17, 2013 11:35 AM (8ZskC)

37 Every fucking word that spews from Carney's ass-mouth is "belied by the facts".

Posted by: Tex Lovera at July 17, 2013 11:35 AM (wtvvX)

38 Please just accept Obamacare. Resistance is futile! Your betters have carefully designed this program for your own good. You might not understand, and probably cannot really grasp the complexities, but higher taxes make you richer, denial of healthcare will make you healthier, increased size of government will make you freer and condescension from public servants will help you stand up for yourselves.

Posted by: Status Quo at July 17, 2013 11:36 AM (qjFNd)

39 30 George Orwell,

I prefer to call it a hug....

duh mayor of Sandy

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 17, 2013 11:36 AM (LRFds)

40 Apparently at a certain point, you've had enough employment and it needs to be spread around.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Laughing Maniacally While Throwing Matches. at July 17, 2013 11:36 AM (0q2P7)

41 **Unexpectedly**

Posted by: Lizzy at July 17, 2013 11:36 AM (2mSdf)

42 It's not reducing full-time employment, it's changing it into something new and exciting, with more leisure opportunities.

Posted by: wooga at July 17, 2013 11:36 AM (myr0b)

43

Posted by: Clownf*cker

 

 

I've got my eyes on you buddy.

 

 

 

*points two fingers at own eyes, then dramatically at yours*

Posted by: Couchfucker at July 17, 2013 11:36 AM (o5q2C)

44 And the republicans will do what exactly??? They have been very muted on the IRS, Benghazi, Fast and Furious, NSA, and almost every other scandal that has racked up against this administration. No instead they want to continue to help Obama by passing an immigration amnesty.

Posted by: NWConservative at July 17, 2013 11:36 AM (PhKi1)

45 Be on the lookout for Posted by: soothsayer at July 17, 2013 03:28 PM (/EkKm) for impersonating me. I am on it!

Posted by: soothsayer at July 17, 2013 11:37 AM (wR+pz)

46 If you like your employment you can't keep that.

Posted by: eleven at July 17, 2013 11:37 AM (KXm42)

47 Wow. It's completely shocking that this totally and utterly foreseeable result that everyone with two firing synapses pointed out came to place. Shocking.

Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at July 17, 2013 11:37 AM (VtjlW)

48 We're all soothsayers now!

Posted by: soothsayer at July 17, 2013 11:37 AM (wR+pz)

49 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) - Passing through Rage & Out the Other Side at July 17, 2013 11:37 AM (/PCJa)

50 Same something about monkeys soothie.

Posted by: Muad'dib at July 17, 2013 11:37 AM (KjlbF)

51 how much to do think Carney would need to be bribed to get him to get his head out of Obama's butt?

Posted by: Mallfly at July 17, 2013 11:38 AM (bJm7W)

52 Burn it down. Scatter the stones. Salt the earth where it stood.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) - Passing through Rage & Out the Other Side at July 17, 2013 11:38 AM (/PCJa)

53
The big question is: So what?

Do people even care about unemployment and jobs? The answer is yes if you're unemployed and looking for a job. But that's not enough people to make politicians and media give a shit.

Posted by: soothsayer at July 17, 2013 11:38 AM (KwX0v)

54

Amazing the way carrots and sticks direct behavior, isn't it?  If you penalize something, say hiring full time employees, you get less of them.

 

Just absolutely stunning the way this has turned out.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - owner of the Outrage Outlet by the 4-way stop at July 17, 2013 11:38 AM (hLRSq)

55 The good news: The Dow is in record territory. The bad news: The money it represents is worth 40% less because of Quantitative Easing. Another fucking criminal who deserves the Mussolini treatment.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 17, 2013 11:38 AM (+98Gb)

56 40 Mike the Moose,

may the best man win...unless of course I'm competing...sucker.

//Bark

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 17, 2013 11:38 AM (LRFds)

57 Where's my money bitches?

Posted by: Obama Voter at July 17, 2013 11:38 AM (Mv/2X)

58 Obamacare is the stairway to heaven.

Posted by: Jimmy Page at July 17, 2013 11:38 AM (qjFNd)

59 Posted by: Clownf*cker


I've got my eyes on you buddy.



*points two fingers at own eyes, then dramatically at yours*

Posted by: Couchfucker at July 17, 2013 03:36 PM (o5q2C)


Pikers.

Posted by: Andrew Mendoza, Horsefucker at July 17, 2013 11:38 AM (8ZskC)

60 and I suspect Carney misunderstands "belie" because he keeps hearing Moochelle say things like "Them Republicans be lying"

Posted by: Mallfly at July 17, 2013 11:39 AM (bJm7W)

61 off damn sock

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 17, 2013 11:39 AM (wR+pz)

62 Carney, what a joke. You can,t believe one fucking word that passes through those soup coolers.

Posted by: ziptie at July 17, 2013 11:39 AM (N5Gqy)

63 And you called me a bad liar.

Posted by: Bagdhad Bob at July 17, 2013 11:39 AM (/PCJa)

64 I think it's time for me to exit some more of my stock positions.  Take the profits and buy some guns and ammo.  Some physical gold too.

Posted by: CDR M at July 17, 2013 11:39 AM (cqZXM)

65 Where's my money bitches? Angela Corey is paying it to George Zimmerman.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 17, 2013 11:40 AM (4uuzV)

66 If you think it reduces employment in "companies," wait until you see the impact on the healthcare industry.

There's already been clinic layoffs and closures in my area.

If you like your physical therapist and her office close to your house, tough shit: you're driving downtown.  If they can get you in.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at July 17, 2013 11:40 AM (/kI1Q)

67 Frankly, I don't give a shit what either of them says. Ben's willful assault on peoples savings and complete disregard for the real inflation rate leaves him as one of the worst destroyers of the middle class.

Gee, we keep printing money but the inflation rate stays the same. Even though food and energy are excluded from the calculation and all business is going overseas to reduce overhead to make up for the loss of the dollars power.

Fuck that shitheel, right in his dirty fucking squeekhole.

Posted by: Clownf*cker at July 17, 2013 11:40 AM (sPO/s)

68

 

 

Mr. Jay Shipman is a serial lying liberal scrunt.

Posted by: Fish, back in FL from TX after 9 months at July 17, 2013 11:40 AM (pJF+c)

69 @64 Gold is down now. I suspect too many governments trying to cash out. Too much supply.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 17, 2013 11:40 AM (wR+pz)

70 In glorious Barackastan, everyone has a full time job -- worshipping ME!

Posted by: The Right Horonable King Barry The First at July 17, 2013 11:41 AM (ccXZP)

71 The Federal Reserve's Dual Mandate : promote maximum employment, and stable prices . .
http://preview.tinyurl.com/b9aj4dr

So if Official Government Policy as designed by the President and his party will reduce maximum employment it is the duty of another government agency to promote maximum employment.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at July 17, 2013 11:41 AM (CSNDG)

72

That's not for realz part-time employment you know.

[Takes a toke]

Posted by: Whoopi Goldberg at July 17, 2013 11:41 AM (JSetw)

73 64 CdrM,

Helicopter Ben sold his soul to keep Bam in power....he knowshe needs to kill the spigot but Wall Street outbluffed him with the dip....

the entire thing is as illusory as Soviet Ag numbers were.

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 17, 2013 11:42 AM (LRFds)

74 Part time jobs    YTD 2013 are    80% of the total jobs figure.  I am sure this is a coincidence.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at July 17, 2013 11:42 AM (AKAOY)

75 I guess as we have always said is replacing unexpected. Which I guess is better than ShutUp!

Posted by: toby928© at July 17, 2013 11:42 AM (QupBk)

76 Git in my belie now!!!

Posted by: Jobs at July 17, 2013 11:42 AM (m2CN7)

77 If you think it reduces employment in "companies," wait until you see the impact on the healthcare industry. Yep. All of those Doctors who retire (because they're not dumb) rather than work under the rules of ObamaCare represent probably 2 - 3 nurses, at least one office assistant, and probably a biller or two. Those people will *also* be out of work.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) - Passing through Rage & Out the Other Side at July 17, 2013 11:42 AM (/PCJa)

78 I think it's time for me to exit some more of my stock positions. Take the profits and buy some guns and ammo. Some physical gold too. Posted by: CDR M at July 17, 2013 03:39 PM

I have no data to back up my assertion, but am pretty well convinced that the market will drop sooner than anyone thinks -- especially pathetic whores like Kudlow -- and the fall will be epic. As in "Jesus, who thought it could drop a thousand points in one day?" epic.

It will be like a tidal wave hitting a pretty, pretty sandcastle.

Posted by: MrScribbler at July 17, 2013 11:43 AM (/RIVS)

79 I would say broadly that if I had a vagina, I'd never get out of bed.

Posted by: Jay Carney at July 17, 2013 11:43 AM (G9Mmf)

80 >>>is belied by the facts

So what you are saying Carney, is the allegation is true but will be hidden by your "facts"? Sounds about right. Sometimes they actually say what they mean by accident.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Laughing Maniacally While Throwing Matches. at July 17, 2013 11:43 AM (0q2P7)

81 Hey y'all might want to buy our lifetime product delivery service now. ObamaCare will feel less ummm.. painful, that way.

Posted by: KY Manufacturing- Sales Dept. at July 17, 2013 11:44 AM (qjFNd)

82 Obama recently signed an executive order overturning  the laws of economics.  So,    Carney is technically correct.

Posted by: Roy at July 17, 2013 11:44 AM (VndSC)

83 All of those Doctors who retire (because they're not dumb) rather than work under the rules of ObamaCare represent probably 2 - 3 nurses, at least one office assistant, and probably a biller or two.


JT Marlin upgrades International Shaman Supply Corp. to STRONG BUY

Posted by: JT Marlin at July 17, 2013 11:44 AM (8ZskC)

84

Posted by: MrScribbler at July 17, 2013 03:43 PM (/RIVS)

 

Exactly.  I've got a few years of profits.  Time to lock 'em in now before the shit hits the fan.

Posted by: CDR M at July 17, 2013 11:44 AM (BuYeH)

85 OMG!  I just read about this in today's paper.  Man, am I pissed.  But, fuck  it.   What's done is done.  We'll just  have to  make the best of it.

Posted by: Baraka O'Preezy at July 17, 2013 11:45 AM (TtGvb)

86 Pull my finger

Posted by: the invisible hand at July 17, 2013 11:45 AM (QupBk)

87

 

Psst!  He does have a vag and I'm sick of his menstral moaning.

Posted by: Claire Shipman at July 17, 2013 11:46 AM (pJF+c)

88 Pull my finger What's the worst that could happen?

Posted by: Ben Bernake at July 17, 2013 11:46 AM (/PCJa)

89 Obamacare, schamacare. Who cares, serfs are cool.




When you are not the serf.

Posted by: TFG at July 17, 2013 11:46 AM (0XBx+)

90 Pikers.

Posted by: Andrew Mendoza, Horsefucker

 

 

I had a slight anal itch.  Next time....Welcome to Hoofville motherfucker...

Posted by: The Horse at July 17, 2013 11:46 AM (o5q2C)

91 86 Pull my finger

Posted by: the invisible hand at July 17, 2013 03:45 PM (QupBk)

 

No way.  Pull my leg.

Posted by: Smart Ass with a Leg at July 17, 2013 11:47 AM (BuYeH)

92

 

 

Thankfully, no one has called me for sex for a long time.

Posted by: The Chicken at July 17, 2013 11:47 AM (pJF+c)

93 >>> All of those Doctors who retire (because they're not dumb) rather than work under the rules of ObamaCare Can a doctor afford to retire at 40? Doubtful. Can a 40 yr old doctor afford to sit on the sidelines for 2-3 years and dabble in painting, go on the world croquet tour, volunteer overseas, watch porn and eat Cheetos?

Posted by: fluffy at July 17, 2013 11:48 AM (fbRgX)

94 In other words, the Unemployed in this country are the new invisible people...

living in the shadows.

Posted by: soothsayer at July 17, 2013 11:48 AM (DlaLh)

95 21 There's a deal in here somewhere!

Posted by: John McCain at July 17, 2013 03:30 PM (qjFNd)


Dad, did you say meal?  It is close to my 4 PM feeding at the trough.

Posted by: Meggie "Double Whopper with Cheese" Mac at July 17, 2013 11:48 AM (6T8Ay)

96 Thankfully, no one has called me for sex for a long time. Posted by: The Chicken No one can afford it.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 17, 2013 11:48 AM (4uuzV)

97
Winning!

Posted by: Barack Sheen Oblather at July 17, 2013 11:48 AM (4+FWp)

98 anyway, what's good for society is more important than what's good for you, Mr Selfish Bible-Clinging Individualistic. If you liked you insurance but you couldn't keep it, that belies the fact that you didn't really like it. Yeah, that's it.

Posted by: Mallfly at July 17, 2013 11:48 AM (bJm7W)

99 I am soothsayer.

Posted by: spartacus at July 17, 2013 11:48 AM (QupBk)

100

Posted by: The Chicken at July 17, 2013 03:47 PM (pJF+c)

 

Lucky you.

Posted by: Jihadi Goat at July 17, 2013 11:49 AM (cqZXM)

101

 

No one has called me either.  Bitches.

Posted by: Abe Vigoda at July 17, 2013 11:49 AM (pJF+c)

102 Remember: In the Left's hive mind, the value of something is never determined by what people will pay for it, but what some worthy determines it should be. Thus, in their minds, the "facts" tell them that raising the cost of hiring will have no effect on, you know, hiring.

Posted by: RS at July 17, 2013 11:49 AM (YAGV/)

103 100 Jihadi Goat,

My aching asshole!

//Bull Economy made with Xerox

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 17, 2013 11:49 AM (LRFds)

104 >>>All of those Doctors who retire (because they're not dumb) rather than work under the rules of ObamaCare represent probably 2 - 3 nurses, at least one office assistant, and probably a biller or two. Those people will *also* be out of work.

My doctor's office (single doctor) employs about 5. The good news is, after they move out of their office, no one will be moving in so we'll have lots of vacant space too!

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Laughing Maniacally While Throwing Matches. at July 17, 2013 11:50 AM (0q2P7)

105 Can a doctor afford to retire at 40? Doubtful. Some of them, but not many. And the ones who can't retire will hike their prices in response to market forces. Or, as you say, sit on the sidelines for a couple years. In either case, those nurses, techs, office assistants, billing personnel and so on will be out of jobs.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) - Passing through Rage & Out the Other Side at July 17, 2013 11:50 AM (/PCJa)

106 whores like Kudlow -- and the fall will be epic. As in "Jesus, who thought it could drop a thousand points in one day?" epic.

It will be like a tidal wave hitting a pretty, pretty sandcastle.

Posted by: MrScribbler


Kudlow on Ham Shannity 2007: It's a great time to buy a house! Real estate always increases in value!

I fucking hate Kudlow and anyone that gave him the time of day. The Right has far too many uncritical Wall Street cheerleaders.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at July 17, 2013 11:50 AM (xvZYu)

107 Can a 40 yr old doctor afford to sit on the sidelines for 2-3 years and dabble in painting, go on the world croquet tour, volunteer overseas, watch porn and eat Cheetos?

Posted by: fluffy at July 17, 2013 03:48 PM (fbRgX)


FoxB had a couple of doctors on who specialized n chemo.  They discussed the fact that  chemo practices were selling out to hospitals at an accelerated rate and they were simply getting out of the buisness.

Posted by: Vic at July 17, 2013 11:50 AM (lZvxr)

108 Psst!  You guys got any tips?

Posted by: DoJ Zimmerman Squad at July 17, 2013 11:51 AM (Mv/2X)

109 Local car TV ads SUCK!

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 17, 2013 11:51 AM (wR+pz)

110 52nd look at funemployment?

Posted by: Clownf*cker at July 17, 2013 11:51 AM (sPO/s)

111 Just take an asprin, bitches.

Posted by: Obama at July 17, 2013 11:51 AM (QehQP)

112 108 Psst! You guys got any tips? Posted by: DoJ Zimmerman Squad at July 17, 2013 03:51 PM (Mv/2X) I've got some tips for you! (A moyle)

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 17, 2013 11:52 AM (+98Gb)

113 82 Obama recently signed an executive order overturning the laws of economics. So, Carney is technically correct.

Next up, the laws of physics.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 17, 2013 11:52 AM (MkZzi)

114 It's not that the full-time market is getting smaller, I prefer to think the appeal of workers is becoming more selective.

Posted by: Ian Faith at July 17, 2013 11:52 AM (Pr6hk)

115  Remember: In the Left's hive mind, the value of something is never determined by what people will pay for it, but what some worthy determines it should be. Thus, in their minds, the "facts" tell them that raising the cost of hiring will have no effect on, you know, hiring.

Posted by: RS at July 17, 2013 03:49 PM (YAGV/)

 

 

---------------------------------------------

 

 

The leftist viewpoint:  This isn't really working, but it should've worked.  Therefore, it's working.

Posted by: Soona at July 17, 2013 11:52 AM (TtGvb)

116 5th Summer of (Lean) FORWARD! aka, Bend Over.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 17, 2013 11:52 AM (4uuzV)

117 Serious question: the bill that the House passed to delay both individual and employer mandates, did it also delay the no pre-existing condition part for insurers? If it didn't, they will be bankrupt in a year.

Posted by: toby928© at July 17, 2013 11:52 AM (QupBk)

118 Is there a Carny Statement Generator writing these? An algorithm that has no ability to blush?

Posted by: Mr. Dave at July 17, 2013 11:52 AM (zynqj)

119 I think Jay Carney just group tweeted everyone in America.

Posted by: Anthony Weiner at July 17, 2013 11:53 AM (qjFNd)

120 >>> You guys got any tips? Avoid torchlight parades.

Posted by: fluffy at July 17, 2013 11:53 AM (fbRgX)

121 Local car TV ads SUCK!

By design.  If they're too fancy and expensive the public thinks they'll be too expensive, so their sales decline.  Cheap-looking ads actually increase sales.

Posted by: Obama at July 17, 2013 11:53 AM (QehQP)

122 105 Allen G,

they're the proto Galts...

they are just as capable of going into finance as the out of work engineers did who giggled at the failure dynamics of the market...

you just wait until pissed off doctors who grasp systemic degeneration get a look at the rulebooks...

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 17, 2013 11:53 AM (LRFds)

123 Is this real life?

Posted by: Mare at July 17, 2013 11:53 AM (EYfcP)

124 My doctor's office (single doctor) employs about 5. And the effect is wider than that. With 5 people (even with 1 doctor), you're probably looking at them also having a billing service. Whoops, that service just lost that revenue. And they have suppliers for everything from drugs to cotton swabs. Multiply that effect out by tens of thousands of doctors who get out of the profession.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) - Passing through Rage & Out the Other Side at July 17, 2013 11:53 AM (/PCJa)

125 The Left is all about using "economic incentives" to get people to change their behavior (tax on sodas, rebates on solar, etc. etc.), but when the exact same principle happens "unexpectedly" with their hare-brained economy-destroying schemes, they're SHOCKED by this mystifying turn of events, despite every single non-Marxist financial analyst warning them ahead of time.

Posted by: zombie at July 17, 2013 11:53 AM (+cx5n)

126 As for all these numbers coming out of DC, I haven't believed a single one of them since the Choom King took office.

Posted by: Vic at July 17, 2013 11:53 AM (lZvxr)

127 Isn't this economy awesome?  I've got some investment opportunities for y'all.

Posted by: Jon Corzine at July 17, 2013 11:54 AM (JSetw)

128 I've got some tips for you! (A moyle) ISWYDT, & just eeewww!

Posted by: rickb223 at July 17, 2013 11:54 AM (4uuzV)

129 Weimar a nice looking recovery? Come to zee cabaret, old chum!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 17, 2013 11:54 AM (+98Gb)

130 113 Bertram Cabot jr,

"what d fug I flyin' fo?!?"

//Dede Jenital

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 17, 2013 11:54 AM (LRFds)

131 There are tards, there are those who are epic tards, and then there is the financial media.

Posted by: SpongeBob ReaverSaget at July 17, 2013 11:54 AM (epxV4)

132 I fucking hate Kudlow and anyone that gave him the time of day. 

Yeah, he's a big open borders guy. He seems to think that infinite immigration will lead to an infinite economy.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 17, 2013 11:54 AM (MkZzi)

133 @64 A relative who manages other people's money on the east coast told my wife the same thing six months ago, when she asked about good investments: Liquor, guns and ammo.

Posted by: RS at July 17, 2013 11:54 AM (YAGV/)

134 Is this real life? Is this just fantasy?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) - Passing through Rage & Out the Other Side at July 17, 2013 11:55 AM (/PCJa)

135 123 Is this real life? Posted by: Mare at July 17, 2013 03:53 PM (EYfcP) Axe the soothsayer. Pick one.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 17, 2013 11:55 AM (wR+pz)

136 118 Is there a Carny Statement Generator writing these? An algorithm that has no ability to blush?

Posted by: Mr. Dave at July 17, 2013 03:52 PM (zynqj)

 

We're it.  We do it for the love of our master.  The adulation of all Democrats.  And world peace and shit.

Posted by: Unpaid Intern at July 17, 2013 11:55 AM (Mv/2X)

137 Local car TV ads SUCK! Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 17, 2013 03:51 PM

We get shit-tons of 'em here, too. But they are not as bad as the endless Toyota "sale! Sale! SALE!!!" ads, from "Winter Sales Fest" to "Summer Savings Jamboree," with one or two "Toyota-thons" thrown in for good measure.

You would think the Top. Men. of advertising would realize that putting all your eggs in the "Sale!!!!!11!!!" basket would leave people wondering why you don't talk about the product, if it's so damn good.

I could go on at length about other ads on teevee which, if possible, top the car ads for suckage, but why bother?

It's all Choom Boy's fault, anyway.

Posted by: MrScribbler at July 17, 2013 11:55 AM (/RIVS)

138 new one

Posted by: Vic at July 17, 2013 11:55 AM (lZvxr)

139 do I keep getting minutes every month?

Posted by: L.I.V. at July 17, 2013 11:55 AM (Pr6hk)

140 119 I think Jay Carney just group tweeted everyone in America. Posted by: Anthony Weiner at July 17, 2013 03:53 PM (qjFNd) Claire Shipman wears the sharp-on in that relationship.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 17, 2013 11:56 AM (+98Gb)

141 We also don't understand why people are complaining that the Whitehouse tours are closed. If you actually look at the data, the tours are still running.

Posted by: Baghdad Carney at July 17, 2013 11:56 AM (MqjGP)

142

A dried-out batch of asparagus has touched off a debate about racial discrimination, grocery stores and the role of citizen-led commissions.

It started in May when resident David Olander was perusing the produce section of the University City Schnucks. He noticed the asparagus werenÂ’t resting in a tray of water.

“It was just sitting there dried out,” said Olander, a member of the city’s human relations commission.

Olander summoned an assistant manager, and then he asked the question: Did the quality of the asparagus have any relationship to the storeÂ’s location in a black neighborhood?

“‘I certainly hope not,’” Olander recalled the manager saying.

Posted by: The 'of course' files at July 17, 2013 11:56 AM (4+FWp)

143 Car commercials are almost a pleasure compared to the endless drug ads.I swear I start feeling the side effects after watching a while.

Posted by: steevy at July 17, 2013 11:56 AM (9XBK2)

144 I've got a feeling that Belize is about to become  the  Country with the highest per captia number of doctors in the world.

Posted by: polynikes at July 17, 2013 11:58 AM (m2CN7)

145 If you actually look at the data, the sequester has killed around 50,000,000 seniors, brought the economy to a screeching halt, and made it so that congressmen can only afford to grope interns once a day.

Posted by: Baghdad Carney at July 17, 2013 11:58 AM (MqjGP)

146 Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? Caught in a landslide No escape from reality Open your eyes Look up to the skies and see I'm just a poor boy, I need no sympathy Because I'm easy come, easy go A little high, little low Anyway the wind blows, doesn't really matter to me, to me

Posted by: toby928© at July 17, 2013 11:58 AM (QupBk)

147 Multiply that effect out by tens of thousands of doctors who get out of the profession.

Not to mention the hospital systems cutting people/hours.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at July 17, 2013 11:58 AM (/kI1Q)

148 My last comments not withstanding, if you look at the actual data Obamacare has increased employment.

Posted by: Baghdad Carney at July 17, 2013 11:59 AM (MqjGP)

149 Is this just fantasy?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) - Passing through Rage & Out the Other Side at July 17, 2013 03:55 PM (/PCJa)

 

 

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If the fix is in like I think it is for the 2014 elections, and the states decide to just go along with it and do nothing to divorce themselves from DC, then I'm going to go to Plan B. 

Posted by: Soona at July 17, 2013 12:00 PM (TtGvb)

150 If you look at the actual data, Helen Thomas should be a supermodel.

Posted by: Baghdad Carney at July 17, 2013 12:01 PM (MqjGP)

151 Bernanke that the "profit recovery has preceded the job recovery".

Wonder why...?

Posted by: Marcus at July 17, 2013 12:01 PM (GGCsk)

152 If you like your full-time job, you can keep your part-time job. Full. of. win. Thanks for the chuckle

Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262© at July 17, 2013 12:02 PM (9Bdcz)

153

Multiply that effect out by tens of thousands of doctors who get out of the profession.

 

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Not to mention the hospital systems cutting people/hours.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at July 17, 2013 03:58 PM (/kI1Q)

 

 

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Don't look now, 'cause it's already happening. 

Posted by: Soona at July 17, 2013 12:03 PM (TtGvb)

154 Did RS refer to the Boston Bombings as a tragedy? No, it was a terrorist attack. A vicious crime that left people and children dead and maimed. Tragedy my ass!

Posted by: waldo at July 17, 2013 12:03 PM (cjFRv)

155 Jay Carney wouldn't lie, it's those f***ing obstructing Rethugicans who only care about making Obama a one-term President, racist bastards. Obama has created more jobs than Bush and created less debt than all the other Presidents COMBINED.

Posted by: a lifelong progressive at July 17, 2013 12:19 PM (AnfcZ)

156 The sidebar article on the cover should be titled "Arctic Ice is Shrinking, Serious You Guys!".

Posted by: Lincolntf at July 17, 2013 12:19 PM (ZshNr)

157

See, we take care of own!

http://preview.tinyurl.com/kfgp4s4

Posted by: a lifelong progressive at July 17, 2013 12:23 PM (AnfcZ)

158 Chocolate Root Beer Float at work. 

Morale +10. 

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at July 17, 2013 12:24 PM (v3pYe)

159 Most of the time I feel sorry for Jay Carney.  He has to dance like a puppet, being told "Tell them A" and telling everyone "A," then being told "Tell them Not-A" and then having to say "Of course Not-A."  I imagine he drinks heavily then sighs on his houseplants.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 17, 2013 12:29 PM (P7hip)

160 “'I would say broadly that if you look at the economic data, the suggestion that the [Affordable Care Act] is reducing full-time employment is belied by the facts,' Carney said.”

The appropriate immediate reply to that would be, "And those 'facts' are what, exactly?"

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at July 17, 2013 12:32 PM (vd7A8)

161 remember, FDR, the Dems and the Unions gave us the 40 hour work week. Now TFG, the Dems and the Unions have given us the 29 hour work week. You should be grateful.

Posted by: Mallfly at July 17, 2013 01:02 PM (bJm7W)

162 Under Pudlow's usual reasoning, the illegals will be a boon to the economy and grow it, even if they cost more than the economy grows because Reagan/Shining City on the Hill.  In other words, he is an imbecile who fried his brain with a little too much blow back when he was probably a lot more fun.

Posted by: ejo at July 17, 2013 01:07 PM (GXvSO)

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