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March 26, 2013

Ben Carson Announces Candidacy for Cable TV Show
— Ace

Ugh. Okay, fine then.

He says he doesn't want to do the political correctness necessary for politics, and doesn't want to jump into bed with special interests. What he would like is to play some kind of political mediator on TV:

He would like to do a show that focuses on Â“educating the American populace about things that are essential to our freedom,Â” he said in his soft, steady voice. Or he would like to try a show that would bring together people who hold opposing views on critical issues that are dividing the nation. Carson would then help them seek a middle ground or resolution.
Â“If the proper venue was presented, I would probably accept such a thing,Â” he said.

Great more commentators. We have too many counselors and not enough leaders.

The guy is retiring, and he had a tough job, and I suppose he would like an easy one. I don't begrudge him that. But... TV? It's so trivial. Another damn talking head show.

Posted by: Ace at 06:53 AM | Comments (192)
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1 I guess it's okay to insult his children then...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 26, 2013 06:54 AM (tqLft)

2 Can't say I blame him. God knows the GOP would never have his back once the first "Uncle Tom" got thrown. Why not just rake in some simoleons before JEF crashes everything to the ground?

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 26, 2013 06:55 AM (zF6Iw)

The new Carson show - Heeeeeeeers Bennie.

Posted by: Roy at March 26, 2013 06:56 AM (VndSC)

4 Good for him, stay the fuck out of politics

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at March 26, 2013 06:56 AM (R8hU8)

5 Whew! that was a close one.

Posted by: Ben Carson's house, trashcans, phone records, and emails at March 26, 2013 06:56 AM (Q9qpj)

6 He'd make a good speaker at the next (R) political convention. I think people watch them.

Posted by: illegally posting anonymously on the internet [/i] at March 26, 2013 06:57 AM (feFL6)

7 I wish someone would go the William F. Buckley route. Have a show with a declared point of view and discuss the illness rather than symptoms. Ideally hosted by someone who is thoughtful and express himself with some degree of panache. This person is ace. DRAFT ACE.

Posted by: BumperStickerist at March 26, 2013 06:57 AM (9P+hO)

8 I can totally understand this decision.

Posted by: Joe the Plumber at March 26, 2013 06:57 AM (Q9qpj)

9 C'mon Ace, not everyone has the steel spine of a Sarah Palin. Sometimes the prospect of a hot kitchen can keep you out.

Posted by: BuckIV at March 26, 2013 06:58 AM (+4mBJ)

10 Of for crying out loud.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 26, 2013 06:58 AM (lVPtV)

11 I actually think this is a great idea assuming he can get the show picked up by a network that isn't Fox News.

Posted by: mugiwara at March 26, 2013 06:59 AM (W7ffl)

12 Maybe he can moderate the presidential debates.

Posted by: NCKate at March 26, 2013 06:59 AM (J/Yaf)

13 I don't understand why he wants to give up brain surgery.

Posted by: Vic at March 26, 2013 06:59 AM (53z96)

"We have too many counselors and not enough leaders."

We have leaders?

Posted by: Cicero Kid at March 26, 2013 07:00 AM (UrENZ)

15 Drudge has a link saying Big Sis is considering a run for pres in 2016.

Hillary vs. Biden vs. Big Sis = popcorn time.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 26, 2013 07:00 AM (lVPtV)

16 Geraldo's slot would be an excellent place for Dr. Carson, especially if Geraldo decides to run for the Senate.

I derive much amusement over his idea that he could mediate between 2 opposing points of view. I wonder how long he would last before he simply hit a democrat over the head.

Posted by: Miss Marple at March 26, 2013 07:00 AM (GoIUi)

17 Or he would like to try a show that would bring together people who hold opposing views on critical issues that are dividing the nation. If he uses a cattle prod on the left, I'd watch.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 26, 2013 07:00 AM (GFM2b)

18 11 I actually think this is a great idea assuming he can get the showpicked up bya network that isn't Fox News. Posted by: mugiwara at March 26, 2013 10:59 AM (W7ffl) Seconded. Not Fox News. Otherwise he'll be preaching to the choir.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at March 26, 2013 07:00 AM (FsUAO)

19 I don't understand why he wants to give up brain surgery. I guess, in one of those oddities of life, it actually takes a brain surgeon to figure that out.

Posted by: illegally posting anonymously on the internet [/i] at March 26, 2013 07:01 AM (feFL6)

20 This is so stupid and I'll tell you why. 2016 depends entirely on 2014. If what happens in 2014 that I think will happen, the GOP will be all but defunct in 2016. If the Republicans don't give people a reason to come out and vote for them in 2014, the party's viability will only further deteriorate by 2016.

Posted by: soothsayer, of the Righteous & Harmonious Fists at March 26, 2013 07:01 AM (ZCAlb)

21 See how much steel is in your spine when they focus on bankrupting and discrediting YOU, steal your emails, give all your children virtual anal exams and then some turd burgar buys the house next door so he can write a book about you. Asshole.

Posted by: Sarah Palin at March 26, 2013 07:01 AM (Q9qpj)

22 Dammit. We need point men, not talking points.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Ampersand Whisperer at March 26, 2013 07:01 AM (fMiHM)

23 Is this a bad idea? Perhaps He can reach people that we can't seem to?

He's well educated He has done mighty important work in His life's work.
Don't we need people that can speak to being a responsible adult and might attract others to speak up, How amazing things can happen if you do the old thing we used to respect and teach our youngsters.. like work hard in school, apply yourself and One day You can be what ever you worked hard to accomplish?

The value of being an American.

i dunno, we always speak about trying to reach folks and convince them of their better natures and being responsible

seems the perfect attempt to try it

Posted by: willow at March 26, 2013 07:02 AM (nqBYe)

24 #15 Big Sis will run to dilute the white woman vote in the primaries, so that Michelle can win.

Either that or she is running so as to avoid being questioned on her policies by a House afraid of being charged with "political persecution." I am almost sure that is why Hillary ran for the Senate.

Posted by: Miss Marple at March 26, 2013 07:02 AM (GoIUi)

25 Ace,

Don't you think a show in the spirit and format of "Fireling Line" could help revitalize conservative thought and politics among the well-educated portion of our culture? Haven't you lamented that we've lost cachet among that culture since the Reagan era?

Posted by: Serious Cat at March 26, 2013 07:02 AM (UypUQ)

26 Well let's face it. He won't be getting hired at CNN or MSNBC. I doubt any of the networks would take him either. That leaves Fox. Which will be used to immediately brand him and discount him.

Posted by: buzzion at March 26, 2013 07:02 AM (GULKT)

I wonder how long he would last before he simply hit a democrat over the head.

It's a tough urge to suppress

Posted by: Rock em Sock em Bill Buckley at March 26, 2013 07:03 AM (BrQrN)

28 I wasn't that hot on the guy running for President anyhow, so whatever. Like some of you all said, be nice if the show wasn't on Fox.

Posted by: Lemmenkainen, Freelance Warlord at March 26, 2013 07:03 AM (ZWvOb)

29 My vote for his first season is to go line by line thru the budget, and to do follow up stories on subjects like why lesbians a fat.

Posted by: sTevo at March 26, 2013 07:03 AM (dKlni)

30 I don't understand why he wants to give up brain surgery. I guess, in one of those oddities of life, it actually takes a brain surgeon to figure that out. It's not like brain surgery is rocket science.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 26, 2013 07:03 AM (GFM2b)

31 I don't believe there is anything wrong with him wanting to serve and educate in this manner.

I don't believe its in the tradition of what we have known as commentators. They generally don't "educate" and are largely seen to be or do in reality comment on issues from a specific political POV. I defy you to explain that Rush, Sean, et al do not fit in that description.

I see Dr. Carson as more of an honest broker. The kind that everyone's loathes or loves because he does not govern his thoughts based on political philosophy and more using common sense.

So be it, provided it's the truth. I've come to distrust anyone that makes every argument from a political perspective, irrespective of party or philosophy.

Anyway, I am not a TV guy. So I wonder how long that type of commentary minus the bombastic, exploitative acrimony will last.

Posted by: Marcus at March 26, 2013 07:04 AM (GGCsk)

32 13I don't understand why he wants to give up brain surgery. Maybe his hands aren't that steady anymore and he has to keep looking over his shoulder after slamming the Preezy at the prayer breakfast.

Posted by: t-dubyah-d at March 26, 2013 07:04 AM (DaxAl)

33 John Kerry will wipe the floor with any of those dames, should they be bold as to enter the lists against him. Because, Scaramouche.

Posted by: John Kerry~Yachtsman for Justice~ at March 26, 2013 07:05 AM (Q9qpj)

We have too many counselors and not enough leaders.

I respectfully disagree, Ace. I think we have both leaders and potential leaders. Hell, half of the commentariat here would be national stars if given the face time.

What we don't have is support. If McStain's little hissy fit over Rand Paul can't convince you that the GOP is dead, dead, dead, then I don't know what will. Our leaders need to be out there, not only explaining the conservative viewpoint but - and this is crucial - punching back twice as hard against the MFM and its Democrat pimp daddies. And we do not get that from the old, tired, where's my consulting fee shitstains currently begging for a taste of TFG's taint.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 26, 2013 07:05 AM (zF6Iw)

35 #30 Brain surgery requires fine motor skills. As we get older, those skills (and our eyesight) deteriorate.

Perhaps he is recognizing his limitations and retiring before he accidentally injures someone.

Posted by: Miss Marple at March 26, 2013 07:05 AM (GoIUi)

36 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channeling Breitbart at March 26, 2013 07:05 AM (nUH8H)

37 Dana Perino commented on Dr. Carson's possible political aspirations the other day, saying he needs to step out of the spotlight for a while.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 26, 2013 07:05 AM (lVPtV)

38 What's the matter Ace, not looking forward to the competition?

Put up, or shut up, you silly beta male. If you want to see leadership then BECOME A LEADER.

Posted by: ThomasD at March 26, 2013 07:06 AM (Z3+lv)

39 Hmmm, and the extravagant money he makes can/cannot be used to support his common sense candidates? I'm 50/50 on this. On the one hand we need really good talking heads, which there just are not too many of. On the other hand, a waste.

Posted by: qualia at March 26, 2013 07:06 AM (XYSwB)

"He's well educated He has done mighty important work in His life's work."

By the time the left is done with him, he'll be known as the affirmative action hire who stumbled his way through some lucky surgeries and now he's turning his back on the system that helped him along.

Posted by: jwest at March 26, 2013 07:06 AM (u2a4R)

41 30 I don't understand why he wants to give up brain surgery. I guess, in one of those oddities of life, it actually takes a brain surgeon to figure that out. It's not like brain surgery is rocket science. Posted by: rickb223 at March 26, 2013 11:03 AM (GFM2b) He could do rocket surgery!

Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at March 26, 2013 07:07 AM (DGIjM)

42 C'mon Ace, not everyone has the steel spine of a Sarah Palin. Sometimes the prospect of a hot kitchen can keep you out. Posted by: BuckIV at March 26, 2013 10:58 AM (+4mBJ) Aye.

Posted by: qualia at March 26, 2013 07:07 AM (XYSwB)

43 This whole Politics-As-American-Idol phase we're in is pretty embarrassing.

Posted by: Andy at March 26, 2013 07:07 AM (J+kLc)

"24#15 Big Sis will run to dilute the white woman vote in the primaries, so that Michelle can win."

This. 12 more years.

Posted by: Cicero Kid at March 26, 2013 07:08 AM (UrENZ)

45 Meh. I think he heard a lot (and I mean A LOT) of Conservative backlash over his 2nd A comments (some cities are more equal than others) and decided that he didn't want to get into that mess. Which is probably a good thing. If he could "evolve" on the issue, then he shouldn't have been talking about it in the first place. If he couldn't, then that would kill him during any Republican primary (short of running for dog-catcher). But it would be nice if some people would step up to lead. Of course, there are problems there, too.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channeling Breitbart at March 26, 2013 07:08 AM (nUH8H)

46 And his 15 minutes of fame are over in 3... 2... 1.....

Posted by: jb at March 26, 2013 07:09 AM (E4449)

47 I actually think there is room for more Conservative leaning commentators. We have very few that don't come off as angry. That's one of the very best things about- Mary Katherine Ham.

Posted by: tasker at March 26, 2013 07:09 AM (r2PLg)

48 Given he's folding under only a small taste of the full MFM colo-rectal exam it's for the best he didn't actually try and run for anything. Now let's see if he's able to get non-Fox media to bite.

Posted by: Ian S. at March 26, 2013 07:09 AM (B/VB5)

49 Tanned, rested and ready, whacko birds.

Posted by: John McCain IS MAD AS HELL at March 26, 2013 07:10 AM (Q9qpj)

" Our leaders need to be out there, "

Out where, poppins? Screaming in the forest when not one media outlet will report the scream?

Posted by: Cicero Kid at March 26, 2013 07:10 AM (UrENZ)

51 Ace,

Irony for the man who runs a blog I suppose.

I understand the idea though for Carson. He has a choice, either the hard road of dragging himself through a few election cycles (at least 2 in congress, maybe 1 in senate unless he can score a governorship or equivalent) to maybe one day reach a higher office.
Or, he can get a job as a commentator, make some cash and possibly have influence over people. (But at the very least make some cash.)

Even I'd consider the latter seriously before looking at the former.

This does say something though about the status of commentators in our society, although to be fair, the status of lawmakers is also a problem.

Posted by: tsrblke (work) at March 26, 2013 07:10 AM (weUz9)

52 By the time the left is done with him, he'll be known as the affirmative action hire who stumbled his way through some lucky surgeries and now he's turning his back on the system that helped him along.

Posted by: jwest at March 26, 2013 11:06 AM (u2a4R)

jwest they'll certainly give it Their all to do such. Yet what other way is there for conservative or at least responsible thought to be portrayed in media unless our ideas are actually given a voice? Media is our problem , i'm well aware of what has been done by Media and the left to ANY of our candidates.

Still,...He seems to have given his ideas a lot of thought. the structure of America's history thought.

He might use some new ideas re gun and amendment stuff.

still we need more speaking up.

Posted by: willow at March 26, 2013 07:11 AM (nqBYe)

53 Isn't the Washington Times creating a cable new channel in Cali (forget which city) to add another conservative voice with a more independent/libertarian to TV cable news circuit? Snagging Carson would ensure instant viewers.

Posted by: Deli LLama at March 26, 2013 07:11 AM (lGu1O)

54 "We have very few that don't come off as angry"

Yeah, can't imagine what conservatives would be angry about.

Posted by: The guy who wonders what the fuck is going on, sometimes. at March 26, 2013 07:11 AM (Q9qpj)

55 If amnesty passes, the Democrat party will have at least 8 million new voters and a permanent electoral majority. Goodbye GOP and goodbye America as we had known and loved her.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 26, 2013 07:11 AM (tqLft)

56 25 Ace, Don't you think a show in the spirit and format of "Fireling Line" could help revitalize conservative thought and politics among the well-educated portion of our culture? Haven't you lamented that we've lost cachet among that culture since the Reagan era? Posted by: Serious Cat at March 26, 2013 11:02 AM (UypUQ) ___________ This. I imagine he does something along those lines.

Posted by: tasker at March 26, 2013 07:12 AM (r2PLg)

57 We could do a 180Â° and now get behind Scott Walker, the guy who doesn't have a college degree. :p

Posted by: Serious Cat at March 26, 2013 07:12 AM (UypUQ)

58 54 "We have very few that don't come off as angry" Yeah, can't imagine what conservatives would be angry about. Posted by: The guy who wonders what the fuck is going on, sometimes. at March 26, 2013 11:11 AM (Q9qpj) ___________________ Sure that's correct but there are plenty doing that schtick.

Posted by: tasker at March 26, 2013 07:13 AM (r2PLg)

59 I predict Dr Carson will proceed to disappoint and enrage many HQ commenters with various statements. I never got the whole Carson for president thing anyway. I guess it's because we are so desperate for bold leadership that people will rush to anyone they think will fill the void.

Posted by: chique at March 26, 2013 07:13 AM (6zgse)

60 What we don't have is support. Yeah, there's that, too. And I've come to the point where I don't think it's just that they don't want to be disinvited to the sweet parties. I think a big part of it is also that they don't believe there ever will be a reckoning. So they hear us talking about DOOM! and Running Red, or whatever, and they think we're just stupid rubes who don't know a thing. And I think a lot of people have internalized that, too. I bet if you took the majority of the commentariat (left or right) and asked them if they thought the end was seriously nigh, they'd say no. The ones who didn't you could ask, "Then what are you doing to be prepared," and they'd hedge and make excuses. I'm willing to bet that applies here, too, to more than a few (if not the majority).

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channeling Breitbart at March 26, 2013 07:13 AM (nUH8H)

61 What we need is a nationwide 2014 Victory tour. Town hall meetings all across the country with a rotating panel of GOP all-stars. Talk about gas, unemployment, unnecessary wars, spending, regulations, etc. We have a serious 'disconnect' with The People and this is the only way we can reach them --- by actually talking to them.

Posted by: soothsayer, of the Righteous & Harmonious Fists at March 26, 2013 07:14 AM (3Aqe5)

62 Who spiked ace's Ovaltine?

Posted by: eman at March 26, 2013 07:14 AM (64rcm)

63 57 We could do a 180Â° and now get behind Scott Walker, the guy who doesn't have a college degree. :p Posted by: Serious Cat at March 26, 2013 11:12 AM (UypUQ) ____________ I love Walker --he's a natural. I'm not sure about his oratory skills but he's a performer. He gets results.

Posted by: tasker at March 26, 2013 07:14 AM (r2PLg)

64 We could do a 180Â° and now get behind Scott Walker, the guy who doesn't have a college degree. :p The more kooky Marxist shit happens at universities (stomping on Jesus being only the latest), the more I think that's a plus.

Posted by: Ian S. at March 26, 2013 07:15 AM (B/VB5)

65 We could do a 180Â° and now get behind Scott Walker, the guy who doesn't have a college degree. :p I support this plan Says the guy without a college degree...

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channeling Breitbart at March 26, 2013 07:15 AM (nUH8H)

66 His guests will have to scrub and gown-up before they go on-camera.

Posted by: eman at March 26, 2013 07:17 AM (64rcm)

I don't know Ace. If it's another talking head style format so popular today, then sure, I agree.

But if he's looking to do something Firing Linish, I could see that mattering. At least in the long term.

I'm not denying that we need better politicians too, but we desperately need to improve the culture. If Buckley had simply become another congressman or senator, I highly doubt he would have had the impact that he did.

How many institutions and conservative thinkers (or leaders like Ronald Reagan) emerged almost directly because of Buckley's life work?

(note: I am not saying that Carson can be Buckley, simply that someone like Carson would probably stand a much better chance of influencing the broader culture - long term - than much of the current crop of commentators)

Posted by: Lurking Canuck at March 26, 2013 07:17 AM (BrQrN)

So... another decent, smart, caring person decides to avoid politics like the plague?

I wonder why that keeps happening.....

Posted by: BurtTC at March 26, 2013 07:17 AM (TOk1P)

69 So Dr Carson's Flavor of the Month status is rescinded?

Posted by: Jones in CO at March 26, 2013 07:17 AM (8sCoq)

70 Opposing viewpoint are just stupid and I just don't want to hear them. Won't watch it. Unless Alan Colmes co-hosts, he's smart.

Posted by: Guido-Liberal Arts PHD Squidolgy at March 26, 2013 07:18 AM (NQq8e)

71 Ace always says we need to win back the culture. Maybe a talk show would be the best place for Carson to help?

Posted by: Voluble at March 26, 2013 07:18 AM (qYvEa)

72 I never understood the bandwagon to begin with. Great, he spoke out against during the prayer service. Loved it, but... How exactly does that translate into politics on the national scene? Answer: It doesn't. And it shouldn't.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at March 26, 2013 07:18 AM (pLTLS)

73 Perhaps the man had 9 9 9 problems... I can certainly understand.

Posted by: Herman Cain - Still Delivers! at March 26, 2013 07:18 AM (EZl54)

74 Good on him. What we need.

Posted by: F. at March 26, 2013 07:18 AM (HoxZS)

75 Perhaps he is recognizing his limitations and retiring before he accidentally injures someone.
Posted by: Miss Marple

My thoughts exactly. Pope Benjamin left for the same reason, and I applaud him for it. Pro athletes could learn something, but I suppose they get addicted to the applause.

Posted by: pep at March 26, 2013 07:18 AM (YXmuI)

76 O/T breaking news: Mark Kelly's (assault) dog killed a sea lion. Yes, that's *the* Mark Kelly. Click my name for the Weasel Zippers story.

Posted by: Ian S. at March 26, 2013 07:19 AM (B/VB5)

77 58 54 Sure that's correct but there are plenty doing that schtick.

Some conservative pundits are more interested in increasing their ratings and selling their books than they are about advancing conservative principles.

Posted by: 80sBaby at March 26, 2013 07:19 AM (YjDyJ)

78 Wow. I think ace killed the blog with a crap 80's video. Where the hell does he find that--crap--gawd.

Posted by: tasker at March 26, 2013 07:20 AM (r2PLg)

79 Lacey! Hi stranger

Posted by: chique at March 26, 2013 07:20 AM (6zgse)

80 I noticed Ace is now reading The Last Psychiatrist.

Posted by: RiverC at March 26, 2013 07:20 AM (El+h4)

Meh, whatever. I figure the Burning Times are inevitable regardless of politicians and television yappers. Time to go buy some more guns, booze and titty mags.

Posted by: Lurking Canuck at March 26, 2013 07:20 AM (BrQrN)

82 We are a rudderless lot.

Posted by: soothsayer, of the Righteous & Harmonious Fists at March 26, 2013 07:21 AM (hNqVf)

83 So he's going to be the next Judge Judy. Tell me again why anyone thought this guy was the second coming?

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at March 26, 2013 07:21 AM (7ObY1)

84 I think ace killed the blog with a crap 80's video. Where the hell does he find that--crap--gawd. Posted by: tasker at March 26, 2013 11:20 AM (r2PLg) hehe I'm still humming it.

Posted by: qualia at March 26, 2013 07:21 AM (XYSwB)

85 Some conservative pundits are more interested in increasing their ratings and selling their books than they are about advancing conservative principles.

I have no idea what you're talking about. You're a great American.

Posted by: Sean Hannity at March 26, 2013 07:21 AM (YXmuI)

86 He'll end up hosting Jeopardy, once that crypto-Canuck Trebek retires.

Posted by: wooga at March 26, 2013 07:21 AM (Wuxic)

87 (note: I am not saying that Carson can be Buckley, simply that someone like Carson would probably stand a much better chance of influencing the broader culture - long term - than much of the current crop of commentators)

Posted by: Lurking Canuck at March 26, 2013 11:17 AM (BrQrN)

Dr. Ben Carson's disdain for political correctness and his message would be a wrecking ball to everything the left has worked so hard towards for over a century.

Posted by: Deli LLama at March 26, 2013 07:22 AM (lGu1O)

88 Train your body. karate.

Posted by: wooga at March 26, 2013 07:22 AM (Wuxic)

89 RE: Conservative pundits selling out

Everyone's gotta make their bread. And their fourth car. And their shorehouse. And their boat. And their yearly tour of Europe...

Posted by: RiverC at March 26, 2013 07:23 AM (El+h4)

90 Carson will have to learn that the essence of information exchange is to constantly interrupt whomever you've invited on your show to provide their perspective.

Posted by: Bill O'Reilly at March 26, 2013 07:23 AM (YXmuI)

91 TV is not Rocket Surgery.

Posted by: dfbaskwill at March 26, 2013 07:23 AM (71LDo)

92 DRAFT ACE.

Posted by: BumperStickerist at March 26, 2013 10:57 AM (9P+hO)

I doubt he cleans up well....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 26, 2013 07:24 AM (3Mkrp)

This is the fault of everyone who got way too excited over him as our next Savior candidate before vetting him and knowing whether his aptitude is for such a job.

He's going from being a brilliant Doctor who understands why Obamacare is bad, to falsely believing he can be some sort of political figurehead.

We needed this guy to remain a surgeon and a voice for the private healthcare industry.

Oh well. It's Paul vs. Jindal vs. Rubio in 2016.

Posted by: TacoMac at March 26, 2013 07:24 AM (i3OIF)

94 @93: He does OK as long as no scene-stealing Israeli tanks happen by.

Posted by: Ian S. at March 26, 2013 07:24 AM (B/VB5)

95 He'll end up hosting Jeopardy, once that crypto-Canuck Trebek retires. That could be cool. I think though, ace, you're seeing now some of what Carson saw (vis a vis his political aspirations). Too many conservatives (myself included) looked at his prayer breakfast comments and said, "Yep." And then a fair number of people started yelling "Carson for President!" and the rest of us said, "Wait, what?" I seriously do not think he ever had a career in politics. I just don't think it was in the cards for him. A talk-show (like Firing Line would be great) is a good choice in that case.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channeling Breitbart at March 26, 2013 07:25 AM (nUH8H)

96 Who wants to be President when they could be the next Mike Huckabee?

Posted by: no good deed at March 26, 2013 07:25 AM (mjR67)

54 "We have very few that don't come off as angry"

This is because we have people who won't accept reality.

Consider immigration. The only question is what the status of illegals living in the U.S. now is going to be.

The smart people in the party are trying to guide the argument to permanent residents with a chance at citizenship over many, many years.

On the other side, they would like everyone here to be made citizens tomorrow.

The optics of the fight are easily on the side of doing the permanent resident thing. Democrats fighting for immediate citizenship or even anything looking like granting it fast could be made into people wanting to rip benefits from seniors and take money out of the pockets of poor citizens.

But, instead we have people on our side who won't budge from sending all the illegals home. That ain't going to happen.

Posted by: jwest at March 26, 2013 07:25 AM (u2a4R)

98 Agreed - we need a new Buckley. The Right needs an upper-crust northeastern (or northwestern) Englishman who can talk to SWPLs but isn't a SWPL himself.

This weakens the Democrats in Washington State directly, puts Connecticut and Pennsylvania in play, and breaks the Dem hold on the culture in all the major cities.

Right now the Right just has populists. The Right needs them too, but it has them already.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at March 26, 2013 07:26 AM (QTHTd)

99 These "toldyaso"s are so lame in that no on crowned him as such. He's someone who can speak calmly and clearly about the evils of PCness and Obamacare. You wouldn't pay for that?

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at March 26, 2013 07:26 AM (FsUAO)

100 >>> and to do follow up stories on subjects like why lesbians a fat. Too much pie.

Posted by: wooga at March 26, 2013 07:26 AM (Wuxic)

101

Out where, poppins? Screaming in the forest when not one media outlet will report the scream?

Posted by: Cicero Kid at March 26, 2013 11:10 AM (UrENZ)

OK, slick, here's an idea for free: set up one of those debt clocks outside the White House. One set of numbers is the deficit. The other set of numbers is TFGs vacation costs to date. Watch both sets grow. Maybe get one or two Tea Party reps to stand with you. Make a viral video, for fuck's sake. Pound it into people's heads that the dog-eating grifter and his pre-op "wife" are living large while the country spirals into doom.

Or just whine that "the media won't report it, boo hoo" and do nothing. Your choice.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 26, 2013 07:26 AM (zF6Iw)

102 Waiting for an Ashley Judd thread.

Posted by: NCKate at March 26, 2013 07:26 AM (J/Yaf)

103 But, instead we have people on our side who won't budge from sending all the illegals home. That ain't going to happen.

Sure it can happen.

Posted by: Saudi Arabia, Israel, Mexico and every other place with a functioning government and culture at March 26, 2013 07:27 AM (QTHTd)

104 ot Chief Justice Roberts' Lesbian Cousin: He'll Rule in Favor of Same-Sex Marriage cns.com she knows...?

Posted by: qualia at March 26, 2013 07:27 AM (XYSwB)

105 "12 Maybe he can moderate the presidential debates. Posted by: NCKate" Given the choices that were made in 2012, they may as well have Bill Maher and Jon Stewart as moderators. Then Candy Crowley won't be put into the uncomfortable position of trying to pretend she's a serious journalist after helping out HER candidate.

Posted by: nerdygirl at March 26, 2013 07:27 AM (RLXaX)

106

84 -

Because he seems like a good guy, and sometimes we forget that good guys have no business going into politics.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 26, 2013 07:27 AM (TOk1P)

107 The smart people in the party are trying to guide the argument to permanent residents with a chance at citizenship over many, many years. On the other side, they would like everyone here to be made citizens tomorrow. ... But, instead we have people on our side who won't budge from sending all the illegals home. That ain't going to happen. Posted by: jwest at March 26, 2013 11:25 AM (u2a4R) You gotta allow chest-thumping until reality sets in. I don't even think we have to do permanent residency. Start up the expanded work visa program, amnesty illegals under this, and say "You want to be a citizen? Great! Apply like everyone else in the entire world". The work visa expansion would also bring over people from all around the world, of course.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at March 26, 2013 07:28 AM (FsUAO)

108 I don't get the hate for conservative commentators. IMO, Rush, Mark and even Sean Hannity (God bless his simple soul) have done their part to advance the conservative cause. I don't begrudge them the oodles of money they've made. Plus Rush has said his #1 goal is to have a great radio program. Our politicians suck. That's one of the major problems.

Posted by: chique at March 26, 2013 07:28 AM (6zgse)

109 Sure it can happen. Posted by: Saudi Arabia, Israel, Mexico and every other place with a functioning government and culture at March 26, 2013 11:27 AM (QTHTd) See it's comments like this that are just baffling. No one here is saying it's physically impossible. It's POLITICALLY impossible.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at March 26, 2013 07:29 AM (FsUAO)

110 Next time Candy Crowley moderates, someone should put a big dessert cart in front of the auditorium. That'll keep her mouth full long enough that she won't be able to talk

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at March 26, 2013 07:29 AM (QTHTd)

111 Let's look at this logically: President? No way. We aren't the Democrats and although he has some business experience, politics is totally different? Vice President? Similar. Plus, it reeks of tokenism. MD Senator? Good idea but MD doesn't have a seat up in 2014 and the last time the good people of Baltimore had to elect a black Republican over a white Democrat...well, the results are predictable. Governor? Oh-kay...people are more willing to cross party lines for a governor rather than a Senator and it's an open seat. But again, that's tough for somebody who has never seen government work. I think he'd make a more important Senator so if he wants that sort of thing, this isn't a bad way for Carson to stay in the limelight for 2016. Plus, Ace, he's a very credible black man criticizing Obama in general and Obamacare in particular. He's not your typical pundit.

Posted by: AmishDude at March 26, 2013 07:29 AM (T0NGe)

112 But, instead we have people on our side who won't budge from sending all the illegals home. That ain't going to happen. Posted by: jwest at March 26, 2013 11:25 AM (u2a4R) ________________ That was probably the beginning of the end. We might not recover from that schism.

Posted by: tasker at March 26, 2013 07:29 AM (r2PLg)

113 "Hillary vs. Biden vs. Big Sis = popcorn time. Posted by: Jane D'oh" I was hoping for Ashley Juggs. Hell with all of the brilliant things she's said, why should she settle for senator. Also, in a presidential campaign she won't have to try to figure out whether she lives in Tennessee or Kentucky.

Posted by: nerdygirl at March 26, 2013 07:30 AM (RLXaX)

114 13 I don't understand why he wants to give up brain surgery. He's old. The mind is willing but the hands might shake.

Posted by: AmishDude at March 26, 2013 07:30 AM (T0NGe)

115 have.to.laugh.

of course we all jump up and down in excitement when we actually hear a person speak of self determination in Real Terms .
of course we are proud when someone takes the fruit of their labor and succeeds at their calling in life. That's what we believe but is rarely said .

the fact that we have so few speaking to What The American dream used to be considered is why we jump at those moments.

Posted by: willow at March 26, 2013 07:31 AM (nqBYe)

116 Remember, a lot of folks rolled their future campaigns by going on tv, or even the movies... It's his life, and we have no idea what he has planned down the road. And, it's his life.

Posted by: qualia at March 26, 2013 07:31 AM (XYSwB)

117 "seek a middle ground or resolution"

There is no middle ground with the left, or islam. This guy has said a number of things that indicate he isn't very bright outside of the O.R.

Posted by: SpongeBob Saget at March 26, 2013 07:31 AM (epxV4)

118

"MD Senator? Good idea but MD doesn't have a seat up in 2014 and the last time the good people of Baltimore had to elect a black Republican over a white Democrat...well, the results are predictable."

Carson is from Detroit. We've got Levin retiring and seat open right now.

Posted by: jwest at March 26, 2013 07:31 AM (u2a4R)

119 This guy has said a number of things that indicate he isn't very bright outside of the O.R. Posted by: SpongeBob Saget at March 26, 2013 11:31 AM (epxV4) Like? Other than the gun comments.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at March 26, 2013 07:32 AM (FsUAO)

120 88 Dr. Ben Carson's disdain for political correctness and his message would be a wrecking ball to everything the left has worked so hard towards for over a century. As EPIC as the shortage of qualified and capable leadership is on the Right these days, I agree with this 100%. This is the mighty blow the gentleman could strike in the name of Conservativism, and could be worth a lot more in the long run than being elected to national office.

Posted by: [/i]akula51 at March 26, 2013 07:32 AM (Vgn84)

121 Train your body. karate. Can I just fake it & splash on some Hai Karate instead?

Posted by: rickb223 at March 26, 2013 07:32 AM (GFM2b)

122 I don't understand why he wants to give up brain surgery.

He's old. The mind is willing but the hands might shake.

Posted by: AmishDude at March 26, 2013 11:30 AM (T0NGe)

Plus Doctors burn out in general. At some point you reach the peak of your accomplishments and you think "well, might as well stop while I'm ahead."

People at the top of their field like Carson can afford to do that pretty easily (even assuming he doesn't own any patients or such for medical devices, which my guess is that's unlikely, but I don't know.)

Posted by: tsrblke (work) at March 26, 2013 07:32 AM (weUz9)

123 Ok, can we admit now that Carson is kinda goofy looking? He can make some decent cash on the speaking circuit. He's not TV material. Heavy-lidded googly-eyes don't play well on TV. And the scruffy teenager goatee ain't doing him many favors either. Smart, accomplished man, not super TV friendly. He could be an Fox contributor like Palin was I guess.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 26, 2013 07:32 AM (ZPrif)

124 Dudes, it's a couple of years out. Reaching the middle voters via TV is a better bet then writing a book.

Posted by: Jean at March 26, 2013 07:32 AM (EYbqR)

125 I don't get the hate for conservative commentators.

I don't hate them all, just the shameless, endlessly rude self-promoters.

I'm neutral about RL, mostly because I usually think he's boring. Hannity and O'Reilly are circus barkers. I like Medved, because despite the nonsensical RINO accusations he is sharp and let's his guests make their points.

Posted by: pep at March 26, 2013 07:32 AM (YXmuI)

126 You can't spell "trivial" without "t" and "v."

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at March 26, 2013 07:33 AM (DuH+r)

127 If it's politically impossible to eject invaders, then there is no point engaging with the political system at all.

That is the only purpose of a state, to eject invaders.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at March 26, 2013 07:33 AM (QTHTd)

128 That is the only purpose of a state, to eject invaders. Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at March 26, 2013 11:33 AM (QTHTd) Ok buh-bye.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at March 26, 2013 07:34 AM (FsUAO)

129

118 -

There's no middle ground with the left? There used to be.

Perhaps you are confusing the current political climate with what has ALWAYS been the way of Washington, which is for the factions to eventually come together for a common purpose: the good of the country.

Maybe it's a bit naive of him to believe in such a thing, but it does not indicate a lack of intelligence.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 26, 2013 07:34 AM (TOk1P)

130 Doing shit is hard.

Talking about doing shit is easy.

The left--while they love talking about shit--at least _joins_ something.

There might be a 100 to 1 talkers to do'ers, but at least those who want to DO something can go to a meeting and see a packed house.

"Being a precinct chairman is for fags."
"I don't have time to go to the county executive meeting."

Yeah.

You make time for what's important.

Posted by: RoyalOil at March 26, 2013 07:34 AM (VjL9S)

131 I mean that in the nicest way. Seriously you are going to be disappointed how this turns out.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at March 26, 2013 07:35 AM (FsUAO)

132 Has Ben Carson ever even claimed to be a conservative? I think we need to temper our expectations, you guys.

Posted by: chique at March 26, 2013 07:36 AM (6zgse)

133 128 If it's politically impossible to eject invaders, then there is no point engaging with the political system at all. That is the only purpose of a state, to eject invaders. Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at March 26, 2013 11:33 AM (QTHTd) _______________________ Saudi and Israel--those really aren't similar examples. Saudi Arabia is a low density dictatorship, and Israel is a small militarized state for obvious reasons--then you call Mexico--whatever you called it.

Posted by: tasker at March 26, 2013 07:36 AM (r2PLg)

134 Carson is from Detroit. We've got Levin retiring and seat open right now. Posted by: jwest at March 26, 2013 11:31 AM (u2a4R)

He could not win there. Ever.

See, Ben Carson is an accomplished black man with a quintessentially American rags-to-riches story. As such, he's not "authentic."

Now, should he ever want to embezzle his way to a new Rolex like Jesse Jackson Jr. or Monica Conyers, or have a dozen illegitimate children with 9 different women while learning how to keep his pimp hand strong, well....then he'd have a chance. Because I am told by numerous "authentically black" people that is what is required.

And no, I do not denounce myself.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 26, 2013 07:36 AM (sbV1u)

135

.....and his pre-op "wife"

----

Ha!

MP4...it's a pleasure watching you work.

Posted by: @JohnTant at March 26, 2013 07:37 AM (tVWQB)

136 Wow, I really can't wait for the 2016 primaries. I think I'll curl my hair. For about 17 months.

Posted by: The Mega Independent[/i] at March 26, 2013 07:37 AM (Lq5WC)

137 Does Ben Carson know Karate? What are his views on Kirsten Dunst in Godzilla-land dressed as a slutty cartoon chick? Do 11-year olds really need to take "Spring Break"? All this and more tonight on the "Ben Zone" at 10 Pm EDT.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 26, 2013 07:37 AM (ZshNr)

138 assuming he doesn't own any patients Well he could avoid the 'Uncle Tom' label if he owned a few.

Posted by: illegally posting anonymously on the internet [/i] at March 26, 2013 07:37 AM (feFL6)

139 We've had Thomas Sowell on our side for decades and that hasn't done a damn thing to help us with the black vote or limit them calling us racists. Hard to imagine finding many better spokesmen than Sowell. We need to find for Mexican and Asian right-wingers. That's the future. We'll never get the black vote.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 26, 2013 07:38 AM (ZPrif)

140 I would watch if he offered to fix the wrongheaded with a scalpel every show

Posted by: Bigby's OK at March 26, 2013 07:38 AM (SdfnP)

141 Still amazing how quickly Carson went from genius pediatric neurosurgeon to uncle tom race traitor. One speech insulting Obama. If they can Uncle Tom Carson, they can Uncle Tom anyone.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 26, 2013 07:40 AM (ZPrif)

142

"He could not win there. Ever."

I didn't say he should run for mayor of Detroit.

Statewide, the "one tough geek" republican governor won by 20 points. Carson is geeky enough.

He would get all the republican and siphon off enough guilt-ridden liberals and blacks who don't know who the guy is, but he's the right color.

Posted by: jwest at March 26, 2013 07:40 AM (u2a4R)

143 There's a spot opening up on The View, I think.

Posted by: Roland THTG at March 26, 2013 07:41 AM (QM5S2)

144
As EPIC as the shortage of qualified and capable leadership is on the Right these days, I agree with this 100%. This is the mighty blow the gentleman could strike in the name of Conservativism, and could be worth a lot more in the long run than being elected to national office.

Posted by: akula51 at March 26, 2013 11:32 AM (Vgn84)

What Ben Carson stands for is the exact opposite of what the establishment good old boy network of the GOP plan, and want to do. Top GOP wants to bend and be more flexible with "political correctness" and turn into another Democrat party. Ben Carson believes everything the Democrats stand for needs to be exposed, fought and stopped. That is what is needed. How he helps in that capacity, which ever way he chooses, should be welcomed.

Posted by: Deli LLama at March 26, 2013 07:41 AM (lGu1O)

145 George P Bush needs to start calling himself Jorge.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 26, 2013 07:41 AM (ZPrif)

146 Like? Other than the gun comments. Posted by: HoboJerky

Can't remember all off the top of my head by the topics of immigration and evolution are a good place to start...

Posted by: SpongeBob Saget at March 26, 2013 07:42 AM (epxV4)

147 I think he'd be better for radio. Replace Sean Hannity with Carson.

So it'll be The Tonight Show with Benny Carson?

Hey-OOHHHH!!!!

Posted by: logprof at March 26, 2013 07:42 AM (+iA5G)

148

I, for one, welcome President Hitlary and Vice President Moochelle.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 26, 2013 07:43 AM (lVPtV)

149 Norm MacDonald has a new video podcast show. He also appears to have gained 50 lbs. He's almost unrecognizable. Tall and lanky was kinda part of his schtick. Damn sure ain't lanky anymore. Has more of a fat grandpa look now. Still funny though.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 26, 2013 07:43 AM (ZPrif)

150 Posted by: illegally posting anonymously on the internet at March 26, 2013 11:37 AM (feFL6)

DAMN YOU AUTOCORRECT
PATENTS, not Patients. Jeebus.

Posted by: tsrblke (work) at March 26, 2013 07:44 AM (weUz9)

151 I, for one, welcome President Hitlary and Vice President Moochelle. Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 26, 2013 11:43 AM (lVPtV)

Yes the "angry lesbian" versus "angry black woman" episodes should provide four years of endless entertainment.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 26, 2013 07:44 AM (sbV1u)

152

There goes the latest savior on horseback for the conservative cause.

Perhaps we should be getting involved in politics at the local level and identifying people there and work to build them up? Takes time but then there would actually be, you know, someone who actually knows how the business works as opposed to just saying the correct lines and becoming the latest heartthrob.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Pirate Scum of Umbar at March 26, 2013 07:44 AM (hLRSq)

153

I don't get the hate for conservative commentators.

Speaking for myself, I don't have a hate on for them. Everyone has their own role to play and I don't begrudge them their piles of silver dimes.

But I do think we need more of those who can convince the 'LiV who isn't a total fucktard leftist, but tunes out of politics because of the abrasive veneer'. (fair or not, that's where it stands for probably 25% of the population).

Posted by: Lurking Canuck at March 26, 2013 07:46 AM (BrQrN)

154 Oops--I think oral argument is under way at the Supreme Court. See Allah at Hot Air.

Posted by: tasker at March 26, 2013 07:46 AM (r2PLg)

155 well, if he did the show with the guest testicles wired up, so he could stop someone from screaming over the top of others. Everyone has to use their indoor voices....or else! ZAP!!!!!

Posted by: Paladin at March 26, 2013 07:46 AM (+Wvn3)

156 We need to find for Mexican and Asian right-wingers. That's the future. We'll never get the black vote.

We're never going to be able to out-identity politic the left. No number of black / asian / latino talking heads will change that.

Problem is, identity politics relies on doling out favors and money (mostly money) targeted at specific groups. This fits in well with the More Government party. With the Smaller Government party, not so much.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 26, 2013 07:47 AM (SY2Kh)

157 @153 Yeah, but local politics requires actually leaving the house and cuts into watching all the TV shows and movies starring all the left-wing celebrities we like to bitch and moan about.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 26, 2013 07:47 AM (ZPrif)

158 20
This is so stupid and I'll tell you why.

2016 depends entirely on 2014. If what happens in 2014 that I think will happen, the GOP will be all but defunct in 2016.

If the Republicans don't give people a reason to come out and vote for them in 2014, the party's viability will only further deteriorate by 2016.

Posted by: soothsayer, of the Righteous & Harmonious Fists at March 26, 2013 11:01 AM (ZCAlb)

Yeah, because that long period of the 1930's-1940's with Roosevelt and Truman? Meant the GOP was dead and in its coffin and there were no further GOP presidents ever again...oh, wait.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Pirate Scum of Umbar at March 26, 2013 07:47 AM (hLRSq)

159 There's a possibility Kagan will vote that Prop 8 is Constitutional to prove her impartiality, but I wouldn't bet on it.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 26, 2013 07:47 AM (tqLft)

160 I wouldn't sell a talking head short. O'Reilly has a lot of stroke, and likely saved Allen West a court martial.

Posted by: maddogg at March 26, 2013 07:49 AM (OlN4e)

161

While I see Ace's point, I disagree on the effectiveness, just on the implementations. What is fundamentally needed in this country is a basic understanding of economics, how it is not a zero sum game, and how individual freedom is a linchpin in both our understanding of these economic fundamentals and in our continued economic growth. Not sure BC is the person for this job, but if/when/once this is understood by a significant number of the populace, the leader will "appear".

Posted by: WTP at March 26, 2013 07:49 AM (V40IZ)

162

Early tea leaves from Supreme Court arguments on gay marriage:

Kennedy hints that he wants Prop 8 case dismissed

If the ObamaCare ruling is any sign (i.e. it's not SCOTUS' job to repeal bad /questionable legislation), expect Roberts to defer to DOMA

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at March 26, 2013 07:49 AM (7QZ6R)

163 Speaking of LIV. Talked to a chick today who complained about how Republican her area was. I pointed out that Obama won her area by 20 points. She expressed disgust that 40% of her neighbors were racist.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 26, 2013 07:49 AM (ZPrif)

164 I think the doctor made a fine decision. He'd never get elected President in 2016, all that talk was a waste of time. I'd like to see him discuss freedom and conservatism in front of URBAN audiences. Ground floor, grass roots stuff. Carson needs to grab some low-info voters and make them medium-info voters who will at least understand that we're not fire-breathing psychopaths.That would be nice. And, he'd need some help with that, he can't do it alone. But, that's where he'd make the biggest impact for the GOP. Best of luck to him in whatever he does...

Posted by: Joejm65 at March 26, 2013 07:50 AM (B8S2R)

165 Maybe he knows things about himself that he does not want to have blow up in his face, ala Herman Cain...

Posted by: Janetoo at March 26, 2013 07:51 AM (R+fMx)

166 Yeah, but local politics requires actually leaving the house and cuts into watching all the TV shows and movies starring all the left-wing celebrities we like to bitch and moan about.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 26, 2013 11:47 AM (ZPrif)

You forgot "personal interaction" and "money."

I can't speak to anyone else in the horde's ability to produce the latter (it's a limiting factor over here though) but I can say, if we had any ability at the former we probably wouldn't be drawn to this place.

Posted by: tsrblke (work) at March 26, 2013 07:51 AM (weUz9)

167 You can't convince people to understand basic economics if 1) They aren't willing to ever listen to you or study basic economics or 2) They don't have an IQ capably of understanding economics and 2nd order effects. It's sad but concepts like opportunity cost and compound interest are literally incomprehensible to a large and growing segment of the population.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 26, 2013 07:52 AM (ZPrif)

168 "Carson is from Detroit. We've got Levin retiring and seat open right now. Posted by: jwest" Detroiters aren't particularly supportive of common sense, realistic black leaders, who want to enforce laws and balance budgets. They had a great mayor, in Archer, he was bringing down crime and making real improvements. He was highly criticized by the thug lovers. Detroit elected the infamous Kwame Kilpatrick. Oh, and have they ever found out what the deal was with that dead hooker?

Posted by: nerdygirl at March 26, 2013 07:52 AM (RLXaX)

169 Carson should be the conservative on a panel show that features a communist circus clown, a minority strident-liberal actress, at least two paid Democrat consultants, a folksy gay character with cancer, and a puppy. Carson would be there as 'balance.'

Posted by: zsasz at March 26, 2013 07:53 AM (MMC8r)

170 >Can I just fake it & splash on some Hai Karate instead? Posted by: rickb223 at March 26, 2013 11:32 AM (GFM2b) nah, we need big guns. A 16 oz bottle of Brut.

Posted by: Jones in CO at March 26, 2013 07:53 AM (8sCoq)

171 I'm proud to stand with Ben Carson.

Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at March 26, 2013 07:53 AM (csi6Y)

172 #166 Why hello there and might I say, it's so nice of you to debut the whispering campaign here on Ace.

Posted by: Miss Marple at March 26, 2013 07:54 AM (GoIUi)

173 Oops--I think oral argument is under way at the Supreme Court. Oral arguments for Gay Marriage. Somehow that's not painting a pretty picture.

Posted by: illegally posting anonymously on the internet [/i] at March 26, 2013 07:54 AM (feFL6)

174 168 FbJ, you can't if you don't try. I don't see where anyone has ever tried. Economics is of fundamental interest to everyone, whether they understand under that academic term or not. People are grossly ignorant on the basics of the subject (and I include a good number of conservatives in this) because there is ZERO effort to explain the roots of the problem, while at the same time the leaves are flying every which way...to kill a metaphor.

Posted by: WTP at March 26, 2013 07:55 AM (V40IZ)

175 I think that everyone is forgetting something very important in their frenzy to find the Perfect Candidate that can distill conservatism down to an easily sold and desirable philosophy for the 2016 elections. The Free Shitters. There are more of them than there are of us, and their numbers are growing. We are never going to change their minds on what they should want or aspire to. The only way they don't vote Democrat in 2016 is to punish the incumbent party for PERSONAL economic disaster. And right now, none of them think their PERSONAL economic situation is bad off because A) Obama's propaganda arm, the MSM tells them we are doing just fine in the face of the obvious, and B) the goodies keep flowing to them, so there's no consequence to their sloth, only rewards. If we can find a talking head and a platform to connect with these fucking idiots and counter the state propaganda enough to insert sufficient doubt in their puny minds to suppress their votes, then that would be worth more than another candidate for office. And I can't believe Ace is awake before me.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 26, 2013 07:56 AM (JDIKC)

176 Good for him, stay the fuck out of politics

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at March 26, 2013 10:56 AM (R8hU

Too many good people are afraid to run for public office at the national level because they don't want their names dragged through the mud and their families subjected to a grueling ordeal. I understand this, but please note this ordeal is almost exclusively confined to Republican politicians and their families. Menendez, for example, is all about hookers, blow, and payola, but you'd never know it from the miniscule amount of press attention his shenanigans have received. The negative publicity gauntlet endured by promising, up-and-coming Republican leaders is an opposition tactic. All it takes to counter that tactic is to step up, take the worst they can dish out, and win anyway.

Posted by: troyriser at March 26, 2013 07:57 AM (vtiE6)

177 #175 I think about this from time to time, as I had to illustrate the stimulus, the national debt, the reductions, etc. with diagrams in order for my college-educated daughter to understand.

You can teach people basic economics if you don't use 5-dollar words and if you can show them how it benefits them. Tell them it is a lesson on how to get rich or something.

I maintain that many LIV's are in that position because they are pressed for time (working long hours), are lured by peer pressure to pop culture, or have been brainwashed by universities or unions.

We need contests, reality shows, game shows, and such. We need attractive women and famous jocks. There is no reason why a conservative show like "The View" couldn't pick up viewers, since I am positive we could field a team more personable and attractive than those women.

Posted by: Miss Marple at March 26, 2013 08:01 AM (GoIUi)

178 178 Miss Marple, I agree. I use the Robinson Crusoe economy, which I think is very useful and would be more so if more was discussed about it on a larger scale.

Posted by: WTP at March 26, 2013 08:04 AM (V40IZ)

179 There is no reason why a conservative show like "The View" couldn't pick up viewers, since I am positive we could field a team more personable and attractive than those women.

Posted by: Miss Marple at March 26, 2013 12:01 PM (GoIUi)

Conservatives have a show like that: witty, smart, engaging. It's called Red Eye, and it's on when no one's awake.

Posted by: troyriser at March 26, 2013 08:05 AM (vtiE6)

180 Replace Snuffleupagus with Carson and maybe that show is watchable. Also Mark Kelly's dog has killed more than my SKS with 30 rnd magazine. Supreme Court to hear gay marriage stuff. Will Roberts use the same wisdom he used on Obamacare? He is not there to strike down laws, elections are where that is supposed to happen. And in this case, the electorate said no to gay marriage, right?

Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262© at March 26, 2013 08:06 AM (UU0OF)

181 We don't even need the show to be conservative. There are many left-of-center economists who understand the basics and, while they are more comfortable with socialism-lite than my tastes, it would draw more viewers. I love Gutfeld/whatevs, but he's not much of a broad appeal. Agree it's definitely in a crappy time slot.

Posted by: WTP at March 26, 2013 08:10 AM (V40IZ)

182

And in this case, the electorate said no to gay marriage, right?

The electorate is a bunch of old, white, homophobes. Get with progress, man! Today's young people approve of gay marriage, and we must cater to their every whim or lose elections in perpetuity!

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 26, 2013 08:11 AM (zF6Iw)

183 I am confident SCOTUS will find a constitutional right to gay marriage. The Founders just used that damn invisible ink for that clause. But the emanations and penumbras are surely there.

Posted by: Jones in CO at March 26, 2013 08:18 AM (8sCoq)

184 Someone ought to quote the movie RKO 281 when Leiv Shreiber talks about how "just words" have changed the fucking world.

Posted by: twoslaps at March 26, 2013 08:18 AM (N36ZX)

185 Maybe it is trivial, but the media is ground zero in the culture war. The more talking heads that exercise some common sense the better I say.

Posted by: Scot at March 26, 2013 08:33 AM (G74SD)

186 We need to find for Mexican and Asian right-wingers. That's the future. We'll never get the black vote. Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 26, 2013 11:38 AM (ZPrif) Hard not to agree with that.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at March 26, 2013 08:36 AM (OSCD/)

187 184 I am confident SCOTUS will find a constitutional right to gay marriage. The Founders just used that damn invisible ink for that clause. But the emanations and penumbras are surely there. Posted by: Jones in CO at March 26, 2013 12:18 PM
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Lamentably, I agree.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 26, 2013 08:40 AM (aDwsi)

188 After the O-bomb-a-care (tm) decision, I figure this is a slam dunk.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 26, 2013 08:42 AM (aDwsi)

189 187 We need to find for Mexican and Asian right-wingers. That's the future. We'll never get the black vote.
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 26, 2013 11:38 AM (ZPrif)

Hard not to agree with that. Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at March 26, 2013 12:36 PM
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USMC. Tried to catch you earlier when you mentioned C-130. I lived next to Lockheed plant, watched the practice of short-field landings. I was almost convinced that the props were reversed before they hit the ground. What is the minimum field length to land an empty ship? Damned short..., I know that.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 26, 2013 08:46 AM (aDwsi)

190 #173 I refer you to #175 - Geeesh ... I could care less, but maybe he doesn't want to have to defend some lunch he went to in 1982.

Posted by: Janetoo at March 26, 2013 09:06 AM (PROOX)

191 NEWSFLASH..... TV DECIDES ELECTIONS. TV DECIDES THE NATION'S FUTURE TV IS NOT TRIVIAL THIS IS JUST HOW IT IS!

Posted by: Dan at March 26, 2013 10:07 AM (/7gN/)

192 Remember Breitbart's push, the culture.

Posted by: SamIam at March 26, 2013 03:34 PM (S09w5)

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