1 the president is a scoamf

2 Are they cool with the IRS harassment stuff-after all, we should be grateful to big government, avoiding individualism and all that jazz.

3 Journolist is back, baby! And now, it's conservative-ish!

4 Thank you for posting stuff on the weekend.

5 It's not Goldfinger. It's GOLDFINGA'!!!! Dame Shirley Bassey style...

6 And do they realize we are broke? Paul Ryan supposedly did but he wants to bring in tens of millions of immigrants to use our resources.

7 The little platoons of society look out for their own, which prompts one to be a part of several, especially if you think you might one day be in need. The Welfare State is a license to be an asshole.

8 I never gave a shit about the common good BS, because if the individual has life liberty and the pursuit of happiness it will always improve conditions for everyone

9 Conservatives do more for the society in the form of charity then liberals. What they mean by common good is for the government to take your money and siphoned it off to these corrupt organizations. No thanks.

10 About Matt Lewis, I think you nailed it. We could be wrong but I don't think we are.

11 There's another name for forced charity: theft.

12 This is all 100% aimed at stopping Rand Paul.  I guarantee it.  He is making a lot of Establishment types shit their pants. 

13 So, the previous VP candidate gave a speech on a hot button topic and the next day two commentators commentated on the same topic? Turtles all the way down man.

14 It's a fight I think most in the Tea Party are ready for and are aware of on a certain level.... especially now with all the gang of ocho work on immigration reform...and gun control too.. 

I see it too from just seeing how the establishment GOP here in Texas fought a very tough fight to forward the fair-haired reasonable candidate for the Senate and then here comes 'fire-brand" Ted Cruz messing it all up.

It is a fight we must have and prevail in.... and I'm feeling kinda good about our chances

15 http://goo.gl/2ljWC Come on...it's just too damn good not to link and evidently I spelled it wrong. It's GOLDFINGAH!!!!

16 Sidebar nitetime NASA photo...  notice all the drilling going on ... awesome

17 “Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. Three times, it's enemy action.”—Ian Fleming's “Gold Finger”

I would add this, paraphrasing Joe McCarthy re George Marshall:

"If Marshall Obama were merely stupid, the laws of probability would dictate that part of his decisions would serve this country's interest."

18 Ahahaha. I found this quote at COUNTERPUNCH the other day, it is from a BONO article. The point applies to CONSERVATIVES too. By the way, Phil Ochs sang one this issue with Love me I'm a Liberal, and it was revived by Jello Biafra during the Clinton years. Now read it and weep stinky bitches for the bell tolls for the! "Liberals have usually not lived up to their rep. They derive the bulk of their glory by taking credit for the achievements of radicals. The current crop, whose respect for civil liberties is nil and whose attitude toward the suffering is STFU, sets new lows. It is now easier to name a liberal Supreme Court Justice who thinks Roe V. Wade a mistake than to find one who will make any meaningful effort to stop illegal detention, de facto segregation in everything (schools, housing, jobs, the Obama cabinet), or prevent the incarceration, even murder, of political opponents without trial. Liberals claim the entirety of the moral high ground as their turf, but at best, theyÂ’re absentee landlords."

19 and I'm feeling kinda good about our chances

Posted by: Yip at May 10, 2013 01:34 PM (/jHWN)

 

-- Hope you are right but I don't see it

20

What this  RINO "enemy action" assumes is that the battle of Individualism vs Community has already been lost.  TFG's reelection was the proof.

 

Now they're just elbowing for a spot at the table as Your Betters carve up the carcass.

 

Related:  Please scroll up to the top of the AoSHQ masthead for my additional thoughts on the subject.

21 Let.It.Burn.

Every conservative 'win' is balanced by 58 progressive 'wins'.

There are only a handful of legislators out of 500+ who are actively fighting the progressives.

There are only a handful of media outlets covering real news, and most of them are off-shore.

The great majority of our citizens don't care that this administration routinely commits murder.

There is nothing left of the constitution.  Let. It. Burn. While. We. Still. Have. Firearms.

22 The proof of our commitment will be tested when the Elite help the Dems try to destroy Ted Cruz and Rand Paul. If we don't stand up for them and fight like Hell, we fail.

23 "Keep Your Laws Off My Body!"

24 "Big-government conservatives" are not conservatives. They're Tories. Let's start calling them that. Tory! Tory! Tory!

25 Bob Dole-- Heh. I can't help but think that you and I are the only ones here who know Ochs' tune. I met him once, BTW..., he was a bit drunk, but amiable.

26

Fuck this fucking pos fucking government and these fucking radical muslim scum who need to be fucking exterminated from the earth.

 

When our Navy Seals lost 17 in the horrible helicopter crashes, THIS FUCKING MILITARY BRASS, which should be tried and shot for their fucking incompetence, REFUSED to allow any mention of Christ, but they did allow a radical fucking camel fucker to say a few words.  what follows is the curse this fucking cocksucker said at the service, that's right THE CURSE:

 

Amen. I shelter in Allah from the devil who has been cast with stones.
In the name of Allah the merciful forgiver.
The companions of “THE FIRE”
(The sinners and infidels who are fodder for the hell fire)
ARE NOT EQUAL WITH the companions of heaven.
The companions of heaven (Muslims) are the WINNERS.
Had he sent this Koran to the mountain, you would have seen the mountain prostrated in fear of Allah.
(Mocking the GOD of Moses)
Such examples are what we present to the people, so that they would think.
(repent and convert to Islam)
Blessings are to your God (Allah) the God of glory and what they describe.
And peace be upon the messengers (prophets) and thanks be to Allah the lord of both universes (mankind and Jinn).

 

The best of the best are cursed by these radical fucking scum before their very coffins.  ARE WE DONE WITH THIS SHIT YET??  What the fuck are we going to do about it??????????

 

Sorry, but I am beyond incensed.  Link and story at Gateway Pundit.

27 Anyone else watching the Seal Team 6 parents on Fox? Dad has a nice new tat he is purposely flashing... I LOVE THESE GUYS....

28

"As IÂ’ve said before, the activist wing makes the most political sense if youÂ’re worried about the 2014, 2016 or any election in the next decade or two."

Riiiiight....because McCain then Romney. No thnaks.

29 That was why--even though I got on board--I hated the notion of R-money being the nominee.

His view--his whole business experience--was, "All government is awesome. We just need to pull this level, twist this dial, adjust this guide and it'll be perfect."

Like I've said several times here: If the Republicans in Washington were not happy with the current size, scope and reach of the federal government, what would they be doing differently?

Truth is, they are perfectly happy with the current size, scope and reach of the federal government and all of their actions are 100% consistent with that.

Many--like Mark the Rube and Shitstain McCain--want to expand it.

Some of you still hold to notions that buy into the fears that scare people off of a third party. But, we already have a third party. It's called the "you and me" party

There's the Government Party--All the Dems and large portions of the Republicans.

Then there's the rest of us . . . .

30 28 Anyone else watching the Seal Team 6 parents on Fox? Dad has a nice new tat he is purposely flashing... I LOVE THESE GUYS.... Posted by: BunkerintheBurbs at May 10, 2013 01:41 PM (5lVZz) Did it say "Fuck Obama"?

31 23 The proof of our commitment will be tested when the Elite help the Dems try to destroy Ted Cruz and Rand Paul. If we don't stand up for them and fight like Hell, we fail.
Posted by: SurferDoc
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Agreed. If we engage inpetty bickering over particular issues, we will remain off-balance, and unable to mount an opposition to the lock-step left.

32
I trust no one.  But I particularly distrust those who offer the choice of death vs. death by bunga bunga.

33 Dad has a nice new tat he is purposely flashing...

Does it say "Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure"?

34 Molon Labe'

35 Every GOP candidate needs a mike shoved in his face and asked what he is going to do today to curb this fucking shit.

And if they don't start moving on legislation to shrink the Federal asshole parade, they aren't on our side.

36 A few weeks back when the RNC called mi casa, with cup in hand, I politely told them to FOAD.  I guess it's time to have that battle for the heart and soul of the GOP?  Didn't ask for that battle, but it's a battle worth fighting.

37 Just end withholding, and let Adam Smith's (and John Browning's) handiwork do its thing.

38 35 Molon Labe' Posted by: BunkerintheBurbs at May 10, 2013 01:43 PM (5lVZz) That's a Drone Strike.

39 Just checking-in to understand if John McCain is still a filthy fuckstick?

40 National Review had a good article regarding this topic, and the author's point was basically conservatives are sickened by the predominant culture so they don't emphasize the "common good".  I have to agree, this country is simply not the same country I grew up in.

I do think though one big political miscalculation though conservatives make is going after popular, middle class New Deal entitlements that aren't going anywhere.  When Obama was making his march to remake this country into Europe, the dumbest response conservatives made was "Let's completely change MediCare!"  How about going after the explosion in food stamps, fake disability claims, and MediCaid first?

The GOP has to make sure it's a party that serves the middle class.  That's why America turned on the Democrats in the 70's and 80's, it no longer served the middle class.

41 Why is it the "common good" always wants my money, but the "common good" is never around when I need shit?

42 It takes a village

43

  Non-progressive Americans are not some tribe of indigenous Borneans just discovered.  

 

There used to be a civil religion in this  country which taught things like checks and balances, separation of powers,   limited government of enumerated powers,  the utility of a diverse (INTELLECTUALLY!1!1!, sorry) citizenry in a marketplace of ideas.  The sacred right to criticize any idea, religion or  your government so long as you keep yourself in check and don't hurt anybody.  Not basing educational or government contracting decisions on race.  Not wanting to be gay was considered acceptable.   Obviously a lot more which used to be pretty non-controversial.        

 

The reality is that any small cut in government spending causes them to attempt to inconvenience or kill us to prove a point about spending.  So the hell with it.  Full speed ahead completely unsustainable levels of spending and insane monetary policy.  

44 42 asked the milch cow

45 OT: Why did Prince Harry lay flowers at JFK's grave???

46
#MakingLifeWork

47

The key quote from Wehrner's piece is that what he thinks is missing is an APPROPRIATE appreciation for the common good.

 

And that's what this is all about. 

 

Fuck you, limpdick.  The threat of "hyper-individualism" is that I get left alone by you and your cronies.  The only threat is to your burning need to control every aspect of everyone's life.

 

Dick.

48 46 to show solidarity with the paddies

49

"Every GOP candidate needs a mike shoved in his face and asked what he is going to do today to curb this fucking shit."

 

Just who do you expect to do this mic shoving?  Candy Crowley?  Anderson Cooper?  Charlie Gibson?

 

No, the MFM is  quite happy to maintain the current trajectory where the Donks make the rules and a few token conservatives present themselves as interesting naysayers who can be pounded as kooks.

50

Who gives a shit what some pencilneck fuck writes.

 

They are allowing muslim clerics TO CURSE dead Navy Seals in Arabic, during their funeral procession.

 

Beyond outrage.

51 28 Anyone else watching the Seal Team 6 parents on Fox? Dad has a nice new tat he is purposely flashing... I LOVE THESE GUYS....

Posted by: BunkerintheBurbs at May 10, 2013 01:41 PM (5lVZz)

May God bless and protect our great military.

I saw a video of them that broke my heart. http://tinyurl.com/d6lbeak

52 "reasonable conservative"

Seriously, can that mean anything more than sellout.  Are we here really not reasonable conservatives?

53 And if anyone should like a copy of the gun file it can be found here - scoamf.us/lib/

54 To put it in Lib-shit terms; Conservatism is organic and like FM(fuckin magik) it lifts all who take part in the experiment....baby.

55 Anyone else watching the Seal Team 6 parents on Fox? Dad has a nice new tat he is purposely flashing... I LOVE THESE GUYS.... Posted by: BunkerintheBurbs at May 10, 2013 01:41 PM (5lVZz) May God bless and protect our great military. I saw a video of them that broke my heart. http://tinyurl.com/d6lbeak Posted by: ChristyBlinky is thankfully not the Duchess of Alba at May 10, 2013 01:48 PM (baL2B) G-D, from the bottom of my heart, I hope this is the beginning of THE backlash.

56

"Let's get this thing to go viral. A minute and a half video starring the #2 diplomat in Libya at the time of the attack, Greg Hicks, offering devastating testimony that directly contradicts Hillary Clinton and the administration."

http://tinyurl.com/d8nqcev

57 In other words, the new "Malaysia". Shill away!

58 Damn ace's edict is hard to follow.  I will say that DrewM did not disappoint by being able to bash Bush again in an otherwise fairly in context criticism of  Republicans article.

59 Big Government Repubs -- they just want a little yachting to go with their socialism.

60 "We're not gonna get rid of anybody! We're gonna stick together, just like it used to be! When you side with a man, you stay with him! And if you can't do that, you're like some animal, you're finished! *We're* finished! All of us!"

61 OT - cocksuckers got their new talking point re Benghazi. BUSH HAD 13 BENGHAZIS!!!!!!

62 DrewM did not disappoint by being able to bash Bush again in an otherwise fairly in context criticism of Republicans article. Posted by: polynikes

Bush wasn't a conservative so you don't have to defend him.

63 cocksuckers got their new talking point re Benghazi. BUSH HAD 13 BENGHAZIS!!!!!! Posted by: RWC at May 10, 2013 01:52 PM (fWAjv) Where did you get that from?

64 18 “Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. Three times, it's enemy action.”—Ian Fleming's “Gold Finger”

Sen. Mike Lee, who is close friends with Sen. Cruz and Sen. Paul, delivered a speech similar to Ryan's last month. Also, Rush talked about this subject earlier this month and said he agreed with Lee.

"What Conservatives Are For"- http://1.usa.gov/12g6qvq

"Senator Mike Lee on Conservatism and Community"- http://bit.ly/11D1T4A

65

As Ronald Reagan put it, itÂ’s a time for choosing.

Posted by: DrewM. at 01:28 PM

Would love to see the stats as I think a lot of folks chose already.  They chose to change their registration to independent as the clusterfuck they saw this election was almost too much to bear.

People are angry still.  A symptom of that is the fact that one too many persons have told me they won't listen to hannity and rush anymore as they "lied to them during the election" and they won't watch cable news or, in some instances, any news.  So yeah people chose already but the republicans are too stupid to figure this out.

66

The dad, whose name I did not catch, may be a moron? If not he is a great American. In a 2 minute segment he covered all the inept actions that caused his son to lose his life in Afghanistan, took a direct shot at Biden, and said  something along the lines of "the policies in Afghanistan make Obamacare look well thought out..."

 

Trying to find a link, it is worthy.

67 Grover Norquist famously wants to shrink government to such a small size that you can drown it in a bathtub. I'm good with that. As long as we go all the way.

68 cocksuckers got their new talking point re Benghazi.


BUSH HAD 13 BENGHAZIS!!!!!!
Posted by: RWC at May 10, 2013 01:52 PM (fWAjv)


Where did you get that from?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 10, 2013 01:53 PM (jE38p)

That's showing up in a few places. Libs are screaming that there were (I saw attacks on embassies during the Bush administration yet Republicans never cared about it then so this is just political. These assholes must sit around all day just trying to figure out how to spin things

69 Anyone who tries to equate community with government deserves my fist through their face. My community is my family and my friends and my church. My community are those who are placed in the category of me and mine. It is not society at large. It is most decidedly not the government. Any duty of care I owe is to that community, not to some amorphous whole.

70 The common good is best served by increasing individual liberty.




How do even our guys not get that?

71 Bush wasn't a conservative so you don't have to defend him.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 10, 2013 01:53 PM (YTstp)

 

I disagree.  But we also probably disagree on what the definition of Conservative is.  Is Gingrich a conservative?  Is Ronald Reagan a conservative?  Depending on where people decide to set the goal posts for Bush,  I could make the argument they are not based on those standards.

72 The smiley face should be eight attacks

73 Where did you get that from? Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 10, 2013 01:53 PM (jE38p) I noticed it was a new argument that the libs were using at politico comment section. Pushed by HuffPo amongst other places. http://tinyurl.com/brshhxr

74 This is very dangerous rhetoric! What is the matter with you people? Don't you love your neighbors??















11tee

75 BUSH HAD 13 BENGHAZIS!!!!!!

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Really.

How many dead ambassadors?  How many YouTube videos blamed??

Somewhere south of "none".

76 How do even our guys not get that?

Posted by: typo dynamofo at May 10, 2013 01:56 PM (WVMUQ)

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.... pssssssstt ..... they're not "our guys".....

77 That's showing up in a few places. Libs are screaming that there were (I saw attacks on embassies during the Bush administration yet Republicans never cared about it then so this is just political. These assholes must sit around all day just trying to figure out how to spin things

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 10, 2013 01:56 PM (1Jaio)

 

Beckel raised it yesterday on The Five.  Said there was only  one hearing while they have had nine hearings on Benghazi .  Of course people on the left were born without the gene that  allows  people to make logical comparisons. 

 

78 The Ryan article is actually pretty good.  There's little one can object to, aside perhaps from the need to save Medicare, which unfortunately is necessary from a political standpoint.

Fucker needs to get off the Amnesty Train though.

79

>>>BUSH HAD 13 BENGHAZIS!!!!!!

 

Yeah, I've heard this just today. There were a total of 3 hearings about attacks on Embassies during W's admin that went nowhere really becoz those were posturings by the Dems.

 

First tu coque is not an argument, Second it implies that hearings are not called for in every instance. Third no Ambassadors died although 13 employees did. 4th they weren't covered up by either the admin or the MSM. 5th W didn't essentially order these deaths.

 

Like I said earlier, this is ruinous to them, Barry and Hillary and they know it. They're desperate to change the fkn subject.

80 OT: Why did Prince Harry lay flowers at JFK's grave???

Posted by: Waldo at May 10, 2013 01:46 PM (sXWmd)

Ich bin ein Berliner?

81 OT: Suspected Boston Marathon bomber Tamerlan Tsarnaev has been buried in a Muslim cemetery in Doswell, Virginia, according to reports. The Boston Globe claims that Tsarnaev's body was buried at the Al-Barzakh Cemetery in central Virginia, about 15 miles from Richmond http://goo.gl/3SbXr Isn't Virginia jihadi central, second only to Michigan?

82 fixerupper-

I hear ya.
Why do we have so many lukewarm at best "team players" when the Dems seem to be all in all the time.

83
Tsaernev was buried in a muslim cemetery in VA? Well, that's nice.
They should've put the other brother in the grave with him.

The other brother, incidentally, is not in the news at all. Nary a mention since he changed hospitals. It's almost as if they want The People's memory of the terrorists to be buried along with the dead brother.

84 Also: Libs/Progs/even the MSM all know that "it isn't the crime but the coverup" and they are in butt-clenching mode.

85 Depending on where people decide to set the goal posts for Bush, I could make the argument they are not based on those standards. Posted by: polynikes

It's easily determined: did he expand the Federal government or expand individual liberty?

There is only one answer.

86

85 OT: Why did Prince Harry lay flowers at JFK's grave???

Posted by: Waldo at May 10, 2013 01:46 PM (sXWmd)

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I think it was tomb of the unknowns at Arlington, also was to visit the afghan lost area there. Classy I think.

87 All well and good, Drew.  And you put it very well.

The problem, however, is perception.  Voters think Republicans hate government.

having already identified a number of communal 'institutions' I think conservatives are very much attached to, I'd say it's fair to infer the institution that dare not speak its name is government

No.. not "government", "federal government".  This needs to be hammered home over and over by prominent Republicans.

Conservatives serve on local government bodies, we are mayors, we serve on school boards, we manage counties and other governing bodies the size of some small states - and our states have more governors than libs.

We do not hate government.  We hate the disconnected federal government.  We believe as did Milton Friedman that government closer to home, closer to its funding is more effective (I wish I could find the quote).

We don't hate government, and we need to say that.

88 The Ryan article is actually pretty good. There's little one can object to, aside perhaps from the need to save Medicare, which unfortunately is necessary from a political standpoint. Fucker needs to get off the Amnesty Train though. Posted by: Hollowpoint at May 10, 2013 02:02 PM (SY2Kh) I'm pretty sure that Math won't give a flying fuck about the political necessity to save Medicare.

89 I would far rather work for government than anything else, because I like the principle. This is not to mean I don't have admiration for private enterprise--I would love to be a prosperous shopkeep, and I feel a slight void in not having that connection to a local community that such a business would entail. It's just that I like working on government behalf in my chosen field, and may be uniquely suited for that above all else. But here are some other things I like--cars with air bags, safety razors vice straight blade, regulated nuclear power plants. They each have control items to prevent things from going wrong. Why not government? I don't simply trust a straight razar blade just because I need to shave, so why then should I unilaterally put trust in government? And why only at the Federal level?

90 I would far rather work for government than anything else, because I like the principle. This is not to mean I don't have admiration for private enterprise--I would love to be a prosperous shopkeep, and I feel a slight void in not having that connection to a local community that such a business would entail. It's just that I like working on government behalf in my chosen field, and may be uniquely suited for that above all else. But here are some other things I like--cars with air bags, safety razors vice straight blade, regulated nuclear power plants. They each have control items to prevent things from going wrong. Why not government? I don't simply trust a straight razor blade just because I need to shave, so why then shoTuld I unilaterally put trust in government? And why only at the Federal level?

91 But remember, we're supposed to keep supporting/voting-for Republicans and not waste our efforts, money and votes on an actual small-government alternative (or developing one, a la UKIP, as needed) or else we'll end up with big, scary Democrat-lead government. Opposed to big, scary "Bi-partisan" government. Or something.

Oh Mr. GOP? I have "The Dustbin of History" on Line 1 - says he's calling from the 1858 national HQ of something called the Whig Party...

92 I know some fucktard brought up Reagan and the embassy attacks that occurred during his presidency, but hadn't heard about the Bush crap.

I find it quite enlightening that liberals are PERFECTLY FINE with their government LYING to them openly without repercussion regardless of content so long as its a democrat doing it.

93

>>>We don't hate government, and we need to say that.

 

Speak for yourself.

94 I'm pretty sure that Math won't give a flying fuck about the political necessity to save Medicare.

Math is racist, sexist, anti-gay, and now ageist.    Tsk.

95 When our embassies were attacked under Bush, motherfuckers got snatched with a bag thrown over their heads and ended up getting waterboarded, sleep deprived and having the shit beat out of them in CIA operated black sites. When our embassies are attacked under Obama, we arrest a YouTuber.

96 Pushed by HuffPo amongst other places.


http://tinyurl.com/brshhxr

**

What assholes. I guess the whole cover-up and lying before congress about the death of 4 U.S. citizens is just tertiary events compared to Bushes incompetence!


**spit**

97 Posted by: RWC at May 10, 2013 01:52 PM (fWAjv)

I commented about this last night.  It's everywhere you wouldn't think it would be.  Doc Thompson on the blaze network mentioned it this morning and did a fantastic job of isolating it and devastating it.  Problem is a person goes onto the site, makes a thread and leaves it there for others to carry the ball.  The thread is always the same, which is how you know it's talking points.  The republicans need more folks out there debunking this stuff.  I was exhausted last night answering the same list of bush transgressions and why this doesn't matter.  The easiest place to find it is at a place called "Above Top Secret":  "What exactly was "covered up" in Benghazi?"   They have this thread and the first thread the guy started with the numbered talking points which is referenced in this thread.  His initial thread is exactly the same as all the other threads started all over that Doc Thompson mentioned this morning on his program.

98 Posted by: T. at May 10, 2013 02:06 PM (1qp/j)

Posted by: T. at May 10, 2013 02:06 PM (1qp/j)

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Stop wasting band width.  Your burning up our environment.

99 The other brother, incidentally, is not in the news at all. Nary a mention since he changed hospitals. It's almost as if they want The People's memory of the terrorists to be buried along with the dead brother.
Posted by: soothsayer
...............
yeah.. or maybe there is no "news".  You want to to artificially keep this asshole's story on the front page every day for months?  You guys read too much tin hat shit into everything.

100

Bush did not have 13 Benghazis.  They are fucking idiots.

 

No Americans died.  Almost every attack was a suicide bomber on a well fortified position.  I.e., they did their fucking job on security.

 

Next fucking question.

101 It's easily determined: did he expand the Federal government or expand individual liberty?

There is only one answer.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 10, 2013 02:05 PM (YTstp)

 

The Federal Government expanded under Reagan.  He also failed in his promise to eliminate the Department of Education.  The deficit when compared to GDP was greater under Reagan that under Bush.  He signed an Amnesty bill that expanded the entitlement liabilities  immediately.  

 

Is Reagan not a conservative to you?

102 You are the Stopped Clock, DrewM:  occasionally correct


congrats


I was the Taoiseach, btw.  Just another Fianna Fail hack, but Taoiseach nontheless

103 I can't imagine that more than a few of these assholes actually believe in Amnesty. Most of them believe in appearing 'reasonable on immigration' and letting someone else be the MSM punching bag.

104
And why is Prince Harry visiting the Jersey Shore?
I have a rotten feeling he's doing so because of his father's stupid Global Warming cause.

I never thought much of Diana and her 'causes' either. She came off as a phony. But that's what British royalty does, right? They pose for photos and pretend to care about the peons and their problems.

105 Does he think conservatives are eschewing participation in churches or other religious communities?" - Yep. Don't want to hear about Social Justice and bashing business while they prey on my hard earned cash. Have they stopped participating in their childrenÂ’s schools, Little Leagues, or Scouting programs? - Yep. We home-school. Used to be involved, but the parents I dealt with are Type AA assholes. As were their wriggling pupae. Have conservatives abandoned volunteer groups or charities? - Yep. See first answer. Go get some Obama stash if you've got problems. Are there no conservatives who serve as volunteer firefighters? Or on the local school board? - Volunteer firefighters get killed or injured where I live with no compensation provided to family. All risk, no reward. I do direct the local school board in my capacity as Big Daddy.

106 I'm pretty sure that Math won't give a flying fuck about the political necessity to save Medicare.

Ah, Math - the ultimate stone-cold heartless biatch. Don't know from Republican or Democrat, liberal or conservative. Only knows "IS".

107 I'm pretty sure that Math won't give a flying fuck about the political necessity to save Medicare. Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies. at May 10, 2013 02:05 PM (VtjlW) Math doesn't give a rat fuck about anything other than Math. He's a selfish bastard.

108 Its funneh...I can't remember the evil Boooosh admin covering the very nature and source of an attack on our interests abroad.


 

109 You guys read too much tin hat shit into everything. It's not like he's named Scooter

110 It strikes me that all three essays are rewrites of 'The Tragedy of the Commons'. (old essay. Google it, it is interesting) The premise is that the commons can only support so much livestock, so it is each villagers duty to limit his participation 'for the common good'. The individual, however, wishes to expand his flock in his own best interest, thus ruining it for all. That's the 'Tragedy' part. Whoever said above that self interest benefits all runs contradictory to this notion, but is nonetheless correct.

111

Isn't Virginia jihadi central, second only to Michigan?

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New York?  From  successful   plots to foiled plots, jihadis hate NY.

 

Jihadi is a lot more  networked  and  distributed these days.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

112 I think maybe the strongest weapon against big-government advocates is market monetarism, something small-gov't types should be lining up behind.  We can shrink government and grow the economy, at the same time.

It's working in Japan.

113

99 - but that was like a 100 years ago or something.

 

>>>I find it quite enlightening that liberals are PERFECTLY FINE with their government LYING to them openly without repercussion regardless of content so long as its a democrat doing it.

 

They're ironing out their stories right now. You can watch it real time on Kos or DU if you care to.

 

"Generations will look back on this moment and recall that this was time the waters receded and State Department personnel were reduced and the planet started healing and the 1st, 2nd and 4th amendmnets died"

114 The Federal Government expanded under Reagan. He also failed in his promise to eliminate the Department of Education. The deficit when compared to GDP was greater under Reagan that under Bush.He signed an Amnesty bill that expanded the entitlement liabilities immediately.

Is Reagan not a conservative to you?

Posted by: polynikes

Reagan also cut government.  Bush, not so much.

115 When our embassies were attacked under Bush, motherfuckers got snatched with a bag thrown over their heads and ended up getting waterboarded, sleep deprived and having the shit beat out of them in CIA operated black sites.

Which was wrong, you know.  The proper response would have been for Bush to apologize to the attackers and blame an unrelated third party.

The world loves us now, because our god-king understands this.

116 Links not working?  http://tinyurl.com/ca6f25d

We gotta get Pixy to fix this comment editor someday.

117 He signed an Amnesty bill that expanded the entitlement liabilities immediately.

Is Reagan not a conservative to you?

Posted by: polynikes

And what was he promised in return?

118
hahahhaha @ no "news" to report on the terrorist

Here's what was on the "news" this morning:

-- Prince Harry is greeted by Michelle Obama and Dr Jill Biden
-- Top 5 baby names for a girl

Terrorist?
What terrorist?

119 [a href="http://tinyurl.com/ca6f25d"]I'm just going to try this for laughs.[/a]

120 How are conservatives not getting the fact that unless they go Full-On Meggie Mactard, they will never EVER be embraced, appreciated, or even tolerated by the Left?

Posted by: The Obsidian Owl at May 10, 2013 02:13 PM (tWmgi)

My question is, why do they feel the need to be?  Who cares?  Their ideals and beliefs are FUCKED and will destroy society. Why would you want to be part of THAT crowd?

121

You know we have all this talk about amending the Constitution to repeal or modify the Second Amendment.

 

I bet you there would be a helluva lot more support for amending the First Amendment to take Islam and Muslims out of protection.

122 The other brother, incidentally, is not in the news at all. Nary a mention since he changed hospitals. It's almost as if they want The People's memory of the terrorists to be buried along with the dead brother. Posted by: soothsayer at May 10, 2013 02:04 PM (vanqS) Great point. I hadn't thought about that but your correct

123 Why doesn't Congress convene hearings on the MSM's outright treason applying RICO statutes?

124

 >>>The thread is always the same, which is how you know it's talking points.

 

Which is how you know its Axelrod

125
Who here can tell me if the Dhzokar is handcuffed to his bed?

Can you tell me if he's been charged?

Has he met with his lawyer? Who is his lawyer?

When's his next court date?

We don't know.

You don't know SHIT about what's going on. Yeah, "no news" to report. None at all.

126 Fox Report: “Several More” Benghazi Whistleblowers May Come Forward Including CIA Officials… Yes, please. Via Weekly Standard’s Stephen Hayes: Maybe the damn she be a breaking?

127 Do I feel a damn bit of solidarity with the chickie using her WIC card to buy groceries who goes racing past me in the grocery store parking lot in a brand new red Cadillac ATS? That actually happened to me three weeks ago! Nope, I did not. I am a truly horrible person.

128 "But a government is effective only when it is limited. And a massive government can stifle the American Idea. Government canÂ’t replace our local communities. And it shouldnÂ’t even try."

"Subsidiarity is like federalism. It’s the belief that each part of society adds to the whole, and that each part must be free to do its work—on its own terms. So government shouldn’t assume other people’s tasks. It shouldn’t make decisions better left with the family or the neighborhood. The people closest to the problem are the most likely to solve it—because they know the community best. And this is the opposite of progressivism, which believes Washington knows best."

How is this liberal?

129 Which is what I will never understand: Why on Earth would you care more about being punched by your natural opposition than by your supporters?

Posted by: The Obsidian Owl at May 10, 2013 02:12 PM (tWmgi)

Because your supporters don't have a 24 hour a day megaphone to beat you with and clerks in every gov't agency who will leak every time you missed a child support payment or got in a fistfight in 8th Grade?

130 Who here can tell me if the Dhzokar is handcuffed to his bed? Can you tell me if he's been charged? Has he met with his lawyer? Who is his lawyer? When's his next court date? We don't know. You don't know SHIT about what's going on. Yeah, "no news" to report. None at all. Posted by: soothsayer at May 10, 2013 02:18 PM (vanqS) Yes he has been charged. Yes he has a lawyers that you and I are paying for. He is a prison hospital so he may not be handcuffed to his bed but he is in a cell.

131
But we know the top 5 baby names for girls! ( Olivia is one of them, btw)

And we know where Prince friggin Harry is today!

132 Prick a Progressive during a job performance review and they're all too focused on individualism and less concerned about the “common good”.

133 When we talk about Reagan or Bushies not being Conservative enough, we fail to notice the Wizard behind the curtain. They had their foils in Tip O'Neill, Mitchell, and Pelosi. Whybcan't the Republicans have a foil to Obama as Speaker of the House? Bush had to run and hid, leaving the credit card on the table, from Speaker Pelosi. Tip wielded appropriations like a hammer. Mitchell just abused old man Bush. Ad we what do we have, tears; do you think Tip ever cried (when sober)?

134
shush, I'm rolling

135 Goldfinger is one word.

136 140 Who here can tell me if the Dhzokar is handcuffed to his bed? Can you tell me if he's been charged? Has he met with his lawyer? Who is his lawyer? When's his next court date? We don't know. You don't know SHIT about what's going on. Yeah, "no news" to report. None at all. Posted by: soothsayer at May 10, 2013 02:18 PM (vanqS) No. He's currently in a cell. He is cuffed when he leaves the cell. Yes, he has been charged but I expect the information to be amended. The federal public defender and Judy Clark. He has met with the FPD and maybe with Judy Clark. Clark handles a different aspect of capital cases. May 30, 2013.

137 Oh, but you're right. Reporting sucks big time and if I didn't go looking for the date and have some knowledge regarding how the system works, I wouldn't know jackshite.

138 I'd like to add one key asect of the public common good is in preventing calls for the common good to prevail to actually prevent the common good, something seen throughout history (for example, the USSR).This is because man is susceptible to group think. Another aspect of the common good is in allowing each person and community the ability to fully help themselves and chart the course of their own lives, via a full realization of individual dignity not short-circuited by needless calls for group uniformity. Finally, a clear common good is in insuring tyranny does not exist that compels the majority to submit to dictates of an elite class. Thus, the common good is not a single optimum solution but a Pareto frontier. What is key is insuring that pursuit of one one solution preferred by some does not threaten all possible solutions.

139 From Benghazi, the SCOAMF and his minions and now the IRS, am I  the only one out there who's thinking that maybe it is time to "...hoist the flag ..." et al?

140 I'm serious (you guys) . . . F.A. Hayek: "Why I Am Not A Conservative." (Link at sig--if it works . . .) We need to revive the terms "Tory" and "Whig" to describe the wings of the "conservative" half of the electorate. "Whigs" are basically "minarchist libertarian" at least in Hayek's conception. I think that describes a lot of us here--government is necessary, but must be limited in order to preserve individual liberties. Tories are "big-government conservatives" (or "RINOs" if you will), who put less of an emphasis on restricting government power generally in favor of using government power when it suits their particular purposes. Hayek: "The need for a clear distinction is absolutely imperative, however, where, as is true in many parts of Europe, the conservatives have already accepted a large part of the collectivist creed—a creed that has governed policy for so long that many of its institutions have come to be accepted as a matter of course and have become a source of pride to “conservative” parties who created them. Here the believer in freedom cannot but conflict with the conservative and take an essentially radical position, directed against popular prejudices, entrenched positions, and firmly established privileges. Follies and abuses are no better for having long been established principles of policy."

141 72 years ago today, Rudy Hess set off on his "peace mission." lol!

142 Giant government gets us the situation where the IRS is a tool of the political class for audits and the FBI doesn't do its job and warn locals about possible terror attacks.

143 j Severin just had a tease.  His guest today is "a congressman from SC who I don't need to tell you is a real republican".  But first he's going to talk about seal team 6.
Any guesses?
http://tinyurl.com/cjkztuv

144 Big Government RINOs, welcome to the world of multiple attribute decision making and risk analysis. The game is freaking on.

145 I'm watching Goldfinger as I type. Bond is tracking Goldie through the Alps when all of a sudden, Jill Masterson's sister passes him in a Mustang convertable.

146 No, the new normal is to tell us nothing. Notice how we never got any details after Sandy Hook? Total silence. What about Lanza's online presence? What about his mother, father brother? Do you recall the aftermath of a crime in American history with so little information? Same thing's gonna happen with the Boston bomber. Obama pulls the strings. He tells the Press no go and that's it. Even the Aurora shooter - the only reason we got any info on him was because of the Fox reporter and she may be thrown in jail.

If Obama doesn't want press coverage of crime - because he wants to use it (gun control) or it might hurt him (Boston) all he has to do is snap his fingers, send this thug Holder out and presto - no coverage.

147 Drudge is linking to Brietbart that the WH is meeting privately with press to nail their talking points re: Benghazi.

The most transparent of administrations!

They be worried, y'all.

148 They be worried, y'all.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky is thankfully not the Duchess of Alba at May 10, 2013 02:32 PM (baL2B)
"Transparency: WH Holds Benghazi Briefing ... Off-the-Record"  (via matt drudge) http://tinyurl.com/cc5vpxa

149 "Goldman Sachs employees concerned Bloomberg news reporters are using terminals to snoop"

http://tinyurl.com/csoao4p

First heard this as a rumor and my response was "paranoid much?"

150 "Voters think Republicans hate government."

Well, that is not entirely true.  We do, however, largely hate government workers.  One of the things that ought to keep IRS workers from engaging in partisan decisions on who to audit is that thought that one day Republicans will be back in office and that they hate government workers and would like nothing better to put government workers who had engaged in partisan violations of the law into prison for as long as possible.

In fact, Republicans would be willing to release violent criminals if necessary in order to make enough room for all the Democrat government workers we would like to lock up. 

I am not sure how much political appeal there is for that sort of program but I think it would test pretty well during the primaries.

151 I would ask self-styled conservatives to examine just what they want to conserve. While they want to conserve social values that are timeless moral principles, too often they want to conserve big and powerful government, which by its very nature is immoral and tyrannous. On that later point is where I part company with Conservatives. The objective of government must be to secure the maximum liberty for citizens. It is not to secure the maximum government. That is the mistake many Conservatives make when they argue for lower tax rates. They don't seek lower tax rates t make government smaller as much as to allow government to collect the most it can. Liberals on the other hand, cannot have a government that is ever too large. Socialism is fraudulent and based on the direct violation of three of the Ten Commandments: lies, coveting and theft.

152 WTF is this off the record bull. Are they going to "come clean" on the secret weapons laundering program?

153 Maybe the biggest difference between Ryan and Lee is just tone but A-I don't think so (Lee voted against the Ryan budget because it grew the size of government) and B- even if it is, tone and emphasis are important things. Lee has the better of both over Ryan.

I would say that Ryan is obviously more of a pragmatist when it comes to his voting record and proposals but the key arguments in their speeches are the same. Also, Lee makes what can be called a technocratic argument near the end of his speech (starting with "Once the federal government stops...").

154 I hate govt in that it's an (arguably necessary)evil.

155 "Geraldo Rivera: My Sources Tell Me Benghazi Was About Running Missiles to Syrian Rebels"

http://tinyurl.com/d47r4go

156 Conservatives believe in community.  It's called the family, the essential institution constantly torn down by communitarians.

Others seem to have a strange notion that "community" consists of government forcing people to do things.

157 I wonder about all the machinations with this Ben Gazzi stuff.  What was the point of not coming right out with vetted correct information?  In the last couple of days we've seen a push for Hillary to be the next prez in 2016 while concurrently the Mrs. Obama faction has been saying she would make a better president and be more historic as she would not only be the first woman president but the first black woman president.  We keep talking about power struggles among the republicans, wonder if we are seeing a power struggle played out among the democrats and we aren't realizing that Ben Gazzi is an important part of the power struggle.

158 Government is like the skeleton--it's the part that gives the entire society its fundamental organizational structure. The logical error is in thinking that all those muscles and guts and brains and stuff are there to support the bones. It's more complicated than that.

159 We should correct something here and maybe it is just an error due to the Left loosely using the word "rights".  Per the founders (read the Declaration of Independence) our government does not have rights.  Only persons have rights.  Those persons granted powers to the government to protect the rights but certainly not to define the rights. At least not at the Federal level.  Neither the Articles of Confedration nor the Consititution gave the Federal Government much power to do anything beyond protecting rights gifted to men by the Creator.  That sort of makes the rights absolute.  Some founders did not want the Bill of Rights in the Constitution out of fear that that would become the definition of all human rights.  If you want to do some interesting research, research the source and ideas behind the phrase "laws of Nature and of Natures's God" in the first paragraph of the Declaration of Independence and trace how that concept worked it's way into the Declaration of Independence.  It will give you a completely different view of the founder's view of government and you will realize  how much bullshit and ignorance is coming from Washington and universities and yes the GOP leadership. 

160

71  AtC  -  well  said,  as  usual.  I've  had  the  same  thoughts  though  not  as  articulately  stated.   Actually,  I  tend  to  use  several  more  "sentence  enhancers"....

God   boiled  human  governance  down  to  10  Laws  (Commandments).   We  (humans)  added   the  "rules  of  government"   and   additional    laws  to  justify  our  circumventing  the  original  10.

LiB.

161 'It's time for a choosing.' Choose you this day whom ye will serve...As for me and my house, we will serve the LORD

162 Paul Ryan as limited government guy was always a fraud. Just look at his record.

163 Mitt Romney ought to ask his political campaign advisers for his money back, like the ones in charge of Sarah Palin, they did a piss poor job. they should have let this video air, the American people are not as stupid as all these political folks think they are. Americans can multi task, it's their politicians who can't. http://tinyurl.com/c4pl5m6

164 RE: "But I'm not sure most Americans want that. And trying to force it via draconian cuts doesn't work, especially if they don't address the specific problem, such as the need for entitlement reform. "You can't make a fat man skinny by tightening his belt," observed John Maynard Keynes."

There has been no, nada, none, zero cuts, draconian or otherwise. Base line budgeting and the last 4 years of no budgets, has destroyed any "budgeting".

165 My 1st ever comment here; Thank you for this piece ACE, we must ID the correct enemies and this helps! Onward and Upward!