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November 16, 2013

Black Gold, Texas Tea
— Dave in Texas

Texas is experiencing an incredible boom in oil and gas production, because of technology and as bank robber Willie Sutton said "because that's where the money is."

In this case, the money is oil. And it's in Texas. Two shale fields in Texas together are producing more oil than any other field in the world.

Shale production is more expensive than pulling it out of the ground in Saudi Arabia, but at current market prices it's more than profitable to pump it out of these oil-trapped-in-rock formations. Some of these fields, like Eagle Ford have multiple layers. Right now Texas is producing 32% of all domestic oil. A half million jobs. And the economic upheaval it stressing the infrastructure in places where ten years ago there were rusting pumps and empty lines since the 80s.

So the Saudis have a cost advantage of production from the ground, but a disadvantage on shipment and refining. We're more than happy to take advantage of it.

The job opportunities are crazy insane.

Edgar Hernandez, 32, left Dallas for Midland two years ago when he couldnÂ’t find work. He says heÂ’s earning $2,000 a week working as a diesel engine mechanic for an oil field services company, but the lack of housing means he and his wife have had to live in a trailer home on the side of Interstate 20.

Â“I came here, and right away I had a job,Â” he said. Â“Everyone is looking for people.Â”

Saudi Arabia's answer to this surge is to build refineries they never bothered to build, because they never needed them. But to stay competitive they need em now.

So if you have a high school diploma and would like to make $80,000 a year handing out bottled water to roughnecks, buy yourself a camper home and head to Midland.

Hotels and apartments are just too damned expensive right now.

Posted by: Dave in Texas at 03:33 PM | Comments (241)
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1 We're racist for talking about this, you know.

Posted by: My Sharia Moor at November 16, 2013 03:38 PM (PhG8y)

2 NoDak is bboming, too.

Posted by: Theodoric of York at November 16, 2013 03:40 PM (mQkAE)

3 As long as I don't have to root for the <puke> Cowgirls, I mean Cowboys.

Posted by: kinlaw at November 16, 2013 03:40 PM (ruwkc)

4 And in Socialist Rhode Island you can't get a job jerking off at a circle jerk. As if their hiring.

Posted by: redenzo at November 16, 2013 03:41 PM (vx61Q)

Booming.

MedievalBarberSockOFF

Posted by: garrett at November 16, 2013 03:42 PM (mQkAE)

6 Evening all.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 16, 2013 03:45 PM (UbDLm)

7 Of course, Obama takes credit for the increased oil production, because of course he does. It's pretty funny around here though. There's a pre-fabricated home lot off the highway with a big sign that says "5 bedroom home. Ready for delivery. Perfect for Oil Fields!" I'm guessing that they set a lot of those up as make shift dorms for the single men out there. Don't worry though, the liberals are trying to shut of the shales, because of course they are.

Posted by: Lauren at November 16, 2013 03:45 PM (hFL/3)

8 Tejas bueno!

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 16, 2013 03:47 PM (xhhOl)

9 And the good news for all of us in Texas is that it is tightening the job market for all jobs. My wallet is open, ready, and willing to accept donations.

HF

Posted by: HungarianFalcon at November 16, 2013 03:48 PM (UlKPY)

10 Neo just saw the Matrix

Posted by: DAve at November 16, 2013 03:49 PM (b7yum)

11 So how would Texas compare on a list of oil producing countries

Posted by: tmitsss at November 16, 2013 03:50 PM (aVsJj)

12 9 Your post is confusing. How is a boom tightening the job market???

Posted by: DAve at November 16, 2013 03:50 PM (b7yum)

13 Boy, it's almost as if the free market works.

Posted by: WalrusRex at November 16, 2013 03:51 PM (PjgvN)

14 Been to Odessa a couple times the last few months. Got to stand on a blender unit and look out at a frac job in progress. It was way fun. And for those not familiar with the technology, the cost of the truck fleet and support equipment just to bid for the job was $40,000,000.

Posted by: tbodie at November 16, 2013 03:51 PM (W/hh/)

15 I have a brother in the oil services biz in Houston and he's offering kids who are set to get their petroleum engineering degrees $125,000 with perks to start.... and they're turning him down

Also too, David Brooks' dumbfuckery is not something that popped up in middle age. I stumbled across this video of Milton Friedman absolutely destroying a young Davey in a debate about subsidized education.

Enjoy.. http://tinyurl.com/pgoxolq

Posted by: Albie Damned at November 16, 2013 03:52 PM (Yhu4q)

16 Do they need auto/mechanics instructors????

Posted by: DAve at November 16, 2013 03:52 PM (b7yum)

17 I bet the hoors are doing some killer business out there, eh?

Posted by: Peaches at November 16, 2013 03:52 PM (8lmkt)

18 This is similar to the boomtown prices and wages when they were building the Alaska Pipeline

Posted by: Tobacco Road at November 16, 2013 03:53 PM (4Mv1T)

19 -sup Peaches. The Horde was "concerned" for your absence last night.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at November 16, 2013 03:54 PM (4Mv1T)

20 My oldest was going to school at UTPB in Midland/Odessa before he joined the Corps. Midland/Odessa is a great place to be FROM. But hey, work is work and if ya gotta feed the tribe, there's money to be made.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at November 16, 2013 03:55 PM (60Vyp)

21 Midland/Odessa is a great place to be FROM. But hey, work is work and if ya gotta feed the tribe, there's money to be made. Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead ------------------------------------ It won't be a lifelong boom. It will level, but my cousin got his start as a diesel mechanic and ended up building golf courses all over the world for the next 30 years.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at November 16, 2013 03:57 PM (4Mv1T)

22 They willing to pay $15 to $18 for a job they list with CCNA being a plus? http://odessa.craigslist.org/tch/4185817077.html

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 16, 2013 03:57 PM (xhhOl)

23

We have nothing to fear with Barack Obama in the White House.

Posted by: John McCain at November 16, 2013 03:58 PM (Pr6hk)

24 Today, top five. Saudi could open the spigot and jump ahead to 2m bbls a year if they wanted to. Question is, do they want to?

Posted by: Dave in Texas at November 16, 2013 03:59 PM (l7DqC)

25 22Isn't that a $50K a year job in CA?

Posted by: DAve at November 16, 2013 04:00 PM (b7yum)

26 Midland/Odessa is part of Texas that lives up to the coastal caricature of Texas. Flat, hot and flat. And hot. Did I mention flat?

Posted by: phreshone at November 16, 2013 04:01 PM (Pr6hk)

27 Hey, TR! No need for "concern," I was just a little fatigued. Got a bunch of bullshit going on right now -- job bullshit, health bullshit, dental bullshit, mutherfucking water leak in my bedroom bullshit. I don't know, probably other bullshit I can't even remember at the moment. Nothin' special, just feeling a bit put upon. Oh, yeah, insurance bullshit!

Posted by: Peaches at November 16, 2013 04:01 PM (8lmkt)

28 Every boom cycle is followed by a bust cycle.

There used to be a really common bumper sticker around here that read:

"Please God, Let there be another oil boom and I promised not to piss it away this time."

Opportunity is a wonderful thing. Please take full advantage of your opportunities. But, be smart morons. Be very careful when riding a boom up to make sure you are not picking up debt (typically real estate at the wrong price) that will ruin your life in the other half of the cycle.

There will be different kinds of opportunities on the other side of the cycle. Being cash-backwards to the cycle is the key.

Posted by: jc at November 16, 2013 04:01 PM (i8c5b)

29 We were just in Midland a couple of weeks ago. Nice people there.

Posted by: Mindy is standing on her head because the world is upside down at November 16, 2013 04:01 PM (lCBX+)

30 They willing to pay $15 to $18 for a job they list with CCNA being a plus? http://odessa.craigslist.org/tch/4185817077.html

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 16, 2013 07:57 PM (xhhOl)

Good grief, even the illegals won't work that cheap.

Posted by: Peaches at November 16, 2013 04:02 PM (8lmkt)

31 Question is, do they want to? What would that do to the price of crude? How much of the current price is due to an excess of demand over supply? Do they want to push the price of crude back down to a dollar a gallon?

Posted by: Fox 2! at November 16, 2013 04:02 PM (pCFIK)

32 12- meant the job pool --> the amount of available labor. Engineers and other skilled labor (production techs., welders, etc.) are all very tight.

Posted by: HungarianFalcon at November 16, 2013 04:03 PM (UlKPY)

33 31 If they did the worldwide recession would be a distant memory in three months

Posted by: DAve at November 16, 2013 04:04 PM (b7yum)

34 My son is there. He is a diesel mechanic. Making loads of money. Makes extra because he has his own welding truck and tools. Works six days a week, long hours and he has his own travel trailer. $200.00 a month just to park it. He said apt rent is insane.

Posted by: Oklahomie at November 16, 2013 04:04 PM (ul+8R)

35 I bet the hoors are doing some killer business out there, eh?

I'm sure the BYOB strip clubs are raking it in.

Posted by: no good deed at November 16, 2013 04:04 PM (k55Fc)

36 #22

That is crap pay for the qualifications they want. I've never managed to stay focused long enough to get the CCNA (I could probably score around 75% without studying but it's that last little bit...) and regularly get $20 for the low end IT stuff I do.

Just a tower cert should start at $20 an hour, unless the cost of living in the vicinity is really low.

Posted by: Epobirs at November 16, 2013 04:05 PM (kcfmt)

37 ****Slides quadruple scotch down to Peaches**** You'll have to slam it, 'cause it's rotgut, but when you consume in bargain basement quantities like me, you have to be budget minded.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at November 16, 2013 04:05 PM (4Mv1T)

38 If this job goes south badly, you the poor new hire will be walking funny for years.
http://odessa.craigslist.org/tch/4191122941.html

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 16, 2013 04:05 PM (xhhOl)

39 SoÂ….who's drinking? Cause I'll drink alone, but it's more fun to drink with friends.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 16, 2013 04:05 PM (GEICT)

Every boom cycle is followed by a bust cycle.

I like a good bust...

unlike the Cob who posted that Georgia Cheerleader, today.

Posted by: garrett at November 16, 2013 04:05 PM (kXVml)

41 I was in Midland/Odessa 25 years ago.

It sits on top of the Permian Basin and at the lower end of the Llano Estacado so it's not exactly the garden spot of America. The refineries had a sweet sulfur type of odor that you smelled long before you reached the outskirts of Midland

High school football is taken VERY seriously there, I think their Friday night HS stadium is bigger than most college stadiums

Posted by: kbdabear at November 16, 2013 04:06 PM (aTXUx)

42 Peak Oil!!!

Posted by: Some Douchebag in 1978 at November 16, 2013 04:07 PM (MMC8r)

43 Thanks, TR, but I've got some Coors Lights. Had 2, can have one more. Trying to moderate my regular beer and parlie diet just a little, eat more food, stuff like that.

Posted by: Peaches at November 16, 2013 04:07 PM (8lmkt)

44 I think the question is, "Whose NOT drinking?"

Posted by: Tobacco Road at November 16, 2013 04:07 PM (4Mv1T)

45 40
Every boom cycle is followed by a bust cycle.

I like a good bust...
unlike the Cob who posted that Georgia Cheerleader, today.

Posted by: garrett at November 16, 2013 08:05 PM (kXVml)

===

My experience would suggest that you might be surprised at how much you would appreciate a closer inspection.

Posted by: jc at November 16, 2013 04:07 PM (i8c5b)

46 My son, who is getting ready to muster out of the Air Force next week, is currently stationed at Goodfellow AFB in San Angelo, TX. When I asked him what he was going to do once he got out, he told me that he has already gotten a job at an oil field there. He is even going to be making more money than his old man.

Posted by: DaveinNC at November 16, 2013 04:08 PM (/NgNT)

47 Too bad getting a medical license in Texas is such a goddamn PITA... I'd buy one of the countless mobile medical clinics for sale and head south, ta...ke care of the cough/cold/cut/crud disease on site... cash only of course... real family medicine right there

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at November 16, 2013 04:09 PM (vHRtU)

48 One thing that must result in culture shock for those coming from the West Coast or the Northeast to work in Midland; insulting George Bush doesn't result in joyous laughter and smiles but could result in a fist to the mouth.

The folks there still love Dubya

Posted by: kbdabear at November 16, 2013 04:11 PM (aTXUx)

49 SoÂ….who's drinking? Cause I'll drink alone, but it's more fun to drink with friends.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 16, 2013 08:05 PM (GEICT)

*raises hand* Got some Redds here, both apple and strawberry but the daughter is destroying the strawberry right now.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at November 16, 2013 04:11 PM (yh0zB)

50 Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmm....... You're welcome.....

Posted by: Preznit Urkel X at November 16, 2013 04:11 PM (jucos)

51 San Angelo is a place you don't go by accident. It's in the middle of nowhere, about three hours from San Antonio and two hours from Midland. We've been stationed there three times. DaveinNC, is your son out at the fire school or the intel school?

Posted by: no good deed at November 16, 2013 04:13 PM (k55Fc)

52 *raises hand* Got some Redds here, both apple and strawberry but the daughter is destroying the strawberry right now. Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at November 16, 2013 08:11 PM (yh0zB) *has no idea what that means but toasts anyway* Drinking some bullshit, college style. Vodka and an energy drink.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 16, 2013 04:13 PM (GEICT)

53 Flying up the east coast of Texas you see the oil boom at night. Between Corpus Christi and San Antonio there is nothing to speak of other than ranches. But at night there is a strip of lights that runs for over a hundred miles - all oil rigs. Black gold, Texas Tea, MF-ing capitalism at work. It is a beautiful thing to see. And the drive between WAY south Texas and San Antonio shows it as well - storage facilities and pipelines going up at an amazing clip. Trailer park work towns popping up on the side of the highway. Anyone and everyone that is in any kind of business is making money. Got a bread truck? Make sandwiches and sell 2,000 of them a day out on the fields. Got a bakery? Sell the bread to the guy with the sandwich truck. The oil money is flowing in, and everyone is benefiting. Including the ladies of ill-repute. If I could get a year off I would open up a beer hall/pool joint on I-37 and get my pimp action on. Seriously, it is a huge boom, and everyone down the line is getting some of that cash.

Posted by: Pilot141 at November 16, 2013 04:14 PM (zNsPb)

54
Let me interrupt this lotion motion thread just to say....USC cheerleaders....yeah baby!

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 16, 2013 04:14 PM (iGPSR)

55 Actually, he is assigned there as part of the Air Police detachment. He has been there about 2 years now. Yeah, he told me it was in the middle of nowhere, but he seemed to like it.

Posted by: DaveinNC at November 16, 2013 04:14 PM (/NgNT)

56 Just poured me a glass of Syrah, BC. So you're not drinking alone.

Posted by: Donna V. at November 16, 2013 04:15 PM (R3gO3)

57 Captain and Coke here, to join the party.

Posted by: Pilot141 at November 16, 2013 04:16 PM (zNsPb)

58 Seriously, it is a huge boom, and everyone down the line is getting some of that cash.

Posted by: Pilot141 at November 16, 2013 08:14 PM (zNsPb)

And the smart ones are going to squirrel some of it away so that they still have something when the boom is over. The really smart ones are working for a way to make the production from shale cheaper so that extracting it will still be profitable after OPEC lowers their prices in an attempt to drive them out of the market.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at November 16, 2013 04:16 PM (yh0zB)

59 Alright, drinking buddies. Glasses up folks. Slainte.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 16, 2013 04:16 PM (GEICT)

60 It sounds ideal for the right people. I want to retire to TX. Dave, shouldn't a housing boom follow?

Posted by: Carol at November 16, 2013 04:17 PM (z4WKX)

61 Cheers!

Posted by: Donna V. at November 16, 2013 04:17 PM (R3gO3)

62 fine, I will have another beer.

Slainte!

Posted by: Peaches at November 16, 2013 04:17 PM (8lmkt)

63 A drink on Saturday night somehow tastes better to me than a drink on any other night.

Posted by: Donna V. at November 16, 2013 04:18 PM (R3gO3)

64 I call it her "daddy got my nose" face ...

Meghan McCain ‏@MeghanMcCain 14 Nov

My "about to go on tv" face!

pic.twitter.com/lkkPVsrzdw

Posted by: kbdabear at November 16, 2013 04:18 PM (aTXUx)

65 Cheerleaders? Pics or GTFO...

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at November 16, 2013 04:19 PM (vHRtU)

66 My iPad crashed on this site. IÂ’m testing on computer.

Posted by: CarolT at November 16, 2013 04:20 PM (z4WKX)

67 I don't drink. I, at one time, was a very accomplished drinker. So good in fact that many, many people advised me that I should quit.

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at November 16, 2013 04:20 PM (jucos)

68 Nice, DaveinNC. It's an all right place. They have more restaurants than you can imagine for a town of that size. ASU and the Base keep it a pretty lively place. Lots of military retirees as well.

Posted by: no good deed at November 16, 2013 04:20 PM (k55Fc)

69 Red Breast 15 y/o blended Irish here... GET SOME!

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at November 16, 2013 04:20 PM (vHRtU)

70 Cheers! Housing boom already in the actual oil areas. Rents are up, housing is tight. Oil companies are building trailer park cities to house workers. One company offered Holiday Inn a deal - build a hotel and we will fill every room for the next three years. Holiday Inn accepted, and the hotel is almost finished. Amazing how fast things can move when money is involved. Correction - YOUR money.

Posted by: Pilot141 at November 16, 2013 04:20 PM (zNsPb)

71 >>>who's drinking? Cause I'll drink alone, but it's more fun to drink with friends. Right there with ya. Drinking a Mad Elf - the beer that's stronger than some wines.

Posted by: DC in Towson at November 16, 2013 04:20 PM (eQJwb)

72 64 I call it her "daddy got my nose" face ... Meghan McCain ‏@MeghanMcCain 14 Nov My "about to go on tv" face! pic.twitter.com/lkkPVsrzdw Posted by: kbdabear at November 16, 2013 08:18 PM (aTXUx) Looks more like her "friday night at 1am face".

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 16, 2013 04:20 PM (GEICT)

73 Niiiiiice. The Horde is going strong tonight. Don't sweat it, Truck. I got some folks in my family that don't drink. Good on ya for recognizing it and doing something about it.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 16, 2013 04:22 PM (GEICT)

74 Drinking Wild Turkey Rye. Thought I'd try it.

Posted by: tbodie at November 16, 2013 04:22 PM (W/hh/)

75 >>>A drink on Saturday night somehow tastes better to me than a drink on any other night. I say the first Sunday Funday beer is the best tasting beer of the week. But this has the makings of a really good night. Slainte, fuckers.

Posted by: DC in Towson at November 16, 2013 04:23 PM (eQJwb)

76 Anybody near Duponte Circle ?

Posted by: grease monkey at November 16, 2013 04:25 PM (qQk+U)

77 Hey Cocksucking fags!

Posted by: Alec Baldwin at November 16, 2013 04:26 PM (jucos)

78 Drinking some kind of scotch tasting ethanol. I'll bet the old truck could run on this.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at November 16, 2013 04:27 PM (4Mv1T)

79 OT? Toni as a female Thor cosplay. Off of FB and public.
http://tinyurl.com/p8aegvs

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 16, 2013 04:27 PM (xhhOl)

80 A drink on Saturday night somehow tastes better to me than a drink on any other night.

People who say stuff like that never have to worry about having a drinking problem. I said to the bff the other day, quit with the "have one more" thing because if I can't dial it down a little, I will have to go to meetings and put up my hand and say "Hi, I'm Peaches and I'm an alcoholic." I would much rather just come by the bar where it is not necessary to announce such a thing.

Posted by: Peaches at November 16, 2013 04:27 PM (8lmkt)

81 Hey Alec, while you are drinking that the AoS Styleguide reqyires you to say Slainte :-)

Posted by: tbodie at November 16, 2013 04:28 PM (W/hh/)

82 I have been waiting for my brother to call. IÂ’m going to call the hospital again.

Posted by: CarolT at November 16, 2013 04:29 PM (z4WKX)

83 My aunt just opened a bar near my little home town. She said if I show up...drinks are on me for the house. She loves me.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at November 16, 2013 04:29 PM (yh0zB)

84 so that extracting it will still be profitable after OPEC lowers their prices in an attempt to drive them out of the market.

If the frack/shale lift cost is say ~$50/bbl, that's the same as buying it from OPEC at $50/bbl. They'd have to cut their prices by 50% before they'd make it uneconomical to do your own.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/s] at November 16, 2013 04:29 PM (Xlbr8)

85 So..... A drink on Saturday night somehow tastes better to me than a drink on any other night. Done!

Posted by: Pilot141 at November 16, 2013 04:29 PM (zNsPb)

86 IÂ’m going to call the hospital again.

Posted by: CarolT at November 16, 2013 08:29 PM (z4WKX)

That has to be getting tiring on you. Prayers for you and your brother.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at November 16, 2013 04:30 PM (yh0zB)

87 Carhops at Sonic are making $20 an hour; if your wife is hard working and friendly, she can earn upwards of $500 a night in tips waitressing at any good eatery (wait times for tables are easily an hour during off hours). Heck, KFC was offering $2000 and all the hours you want to start on the spot. Everyone needs employees, almost everyone will pay for training.... But, you'be got to work for it, slackers get ran over! And you'be got to emphasize the huge area included, we're talking hundreds of square miles!

Posted by: 2nd Ammendment Mother at November 16, 2013 04:31 PM (L4CWX)

88 If the frack/shale lift cost is say ~$50/bbl, that's the same as buying it from OPEC at $50/bbl. They'd have to cut their prices by 50% before they'd make it uneconomical to do your own.

Posted by: Purp at November 16, 2013 08:29 PM (Xlbr

I readily admit that I know nothing about such things, but I was under the impression that shale oil is harder to extract than just pumping it out of the ground. Different processes to extract it from the rock or some such.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at November 16, 2013 04:32 PM (yh0zB)

89 I am thinking about going there for work...and I have a friend who lives there that I can stay with. Hooray!

Posted by: model_1066 at November 16, 2013 04:32 PM (MQ0jT)

90 What the TX stuff does is put a worldwide cap on the price of oil. Once we're capable of producing the "last barrel of demand", we could always produce a bit more and collapse the price to whatever level we wanted to. Its the "last barrel" that sets the overall price.

OPEC is crapping their pants right now

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/s] at November 16, 2013 04:32 PM (Xlbr8)

91 Oh.... and fuck the Saudis.

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at November 16, 2013 04:33 PM (jucos)

92 They need to build an interstate to San Angelo.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 16, 2013 04:33 PM (ZPrif)

93 I think the Arabs don't have as much oil as they say they do. Their brief break in diplomatic relations with us prolly had less to do with Syria and more to do with our oil production driving prices down Next move, JEF seeks to ban fracking through EPA like the permitorium. I already heard some progs talking about how frack money should go to Native Americans. Lord how they hate it when people do well.

Posted by: Thunderb at November 16, 2013 04:34 PM (zOTsN)

94 OPEC is crapping their pants right now

Posted by: Purp at November 16, 2013 08:32 PM (Xlbr

Good. What I particularly like is watching the pump prices coming down. Another 20 cents or so and it will be under 3 bucks a gallon, hasn't been there for a very long time.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at November 16, 2013 04:34 PM (yh0zB)

95 BUT- It's the current high price of oil that justifies how much it cost to extract it from shale. Amiright?

Posted by: Tobacco Road at November 16, 2013 04:34 PM (4Mv1T)

96 What is this last barrel of demand? Edumacate me...

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at November 16, 2013 04:34 PM (vHRtU)

97 The EPA is on a "Hacks Gone Wild" kick lately

How long before they shut down the shale fields with new regulations they pull out of their asses

Posted by: kbdabear at November 16, 2013 04:35 PM (aTXUx)

98 Posted by: kbdabear at November 16, 2013 08:18 PM (aTXUx) That's the porn star face. All these idiots do it: mouth wide open to stick a dick in. They think it's cute.

Posted by: Comrade Jesse, not welcoming our socialist overlords at November 16, 2013 04:35 PM (kkbgQ)

99 OT: 3-3 at the half No fights yet, no need for riot gear Might not get my free nikes or PS4

Posted by: Navycopjoe at November 16, 2013 04:35 PM (oR0vZ)

100 ". Another 20 cents or so and it will be under 3 bucks a gallon, hasn't been there for a very long time." $2.98 at the gas station by my house.

Posted by: Lauren at November 16, 2013 04:35 PM (hFL/3)

101 Re: The new Fordham grad on Huck: 1. TRES. All my fellow Jaspers out there know what this means. 2. He is complaining about how hard the job market is. 3. The new grad forbearance period on his student loans expires next month. 4. He has offers in hand. Multiple offers. In state. Out of state. 5. But he wants to "weigh his options." 6. He's complaining about how hard the job market is. 7. He has "Hire Me" (by name) website. I would add that TRES, but that would be redundant and repetitive.

Posted by: Fox 2! at November 16, 2013 04:35 PM (XFTOV)

102 BUT- It's the current high price of oil that justifies how much it cost to extract it from shale.

Amiright?

Posted by: Tobacco Road at November 16, 2013 08:34 PM (4Mv1T)

That was my impression as well.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at November 16, 2013 04:36 PM (yh0zB)

103 Drinking Sotol right now. It's a kind of wild tequila. Will probably switch to pechuga Mezcal next with orange slices and chili salt. If you're not watching Texas Tech/Baylor on Fox, you are missing a wild game.

Posted by: The Bourbon in Boehner's Belly at November 16, 2013 04:36 PM (CRY7r)

104 Right, the shale stuff sets a ceiling for the price of oil. If oil prices get low enough it would make shale plays uneconomical.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 16, 2013 04:36 PM (ZPrif)

105 GGE, the short version is the frac job creates fissures in the rock that allows the oil to flow to the well bore. From there the standard physics of downhole pressure and friction loss dictate flowing well or artificial lift required.

Posted by: tbodie at November 16, 2013 04:36 PM (W/hh/)

106

My understanding that the price of fuel dropping is because of very weak demand.

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at November 16, 2013 04:37 PM (jucos)

107 Another 20 cents or so and it will be under 3 bucks a gallon, hasn't been there for a very long time.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at November 16, 2013 08:34 PM (yh0zB)

I paid, iirc, $3.59 today, which is the lowest in recent memory. I can't imagine they will let it get under $3 anywhere, though.

Posted by: Peaches at November 16, 2013 04:37 PM (8lmkt)

108 $2.98 at the gas station by my house.

Posted by: Lauren at November 16, 2013 08:35 PM (hFL/3)

Perhaps should have been more specific...hasn't been under 3 bucks a gallon around here for a very long time.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at November 16, 2013 04:37 PM (yh0zB)

109 Will probably switch to pechuga Mezcal next with orange slices and chili salt. Sounds like a black out kinda night.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 16, 2013 04:38 PM (GEICT)

110 2.79 in nebraska....

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at November 16, 2013 04:38 PM (vHRtU)

111 If you're not watching Texas Tech/Baylor on Fox, you are missing a wild game. Posted by: The Bourbon in Boehner's Belly at November 16, 2013 08:36 PM (CRY7r) Thank you. As does my picture-in-picture. Here in the DC/NoVa/close-in MD region, I'd say it averages $3.20 a gallon.

Posted by: Vendette at November 16, 2013 04:38 PM (GAUeg)

112 Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at November 16, 2013 08:30 PM (yh0zB) Thank you, GGE. He had a fever of 105 and left me VM after one and when I called he was in a room & nurse answered and said he was in a lot of pain & they were trying to tend to that. I would say that was at 3:30.

Posted by: CarolT at November 16, 2013 04:38 PM (z4WKX)

113 Took us years to finally get under $4 I paid 3.95 earlier

Posted by: Navycopjoe at November 16, 2013 04:38 PM (PwTLl)

114 And I double-posted. I'll go the barrel.

Posted by: Vendette at November 16, 2013 04:39 PM (GAUeg)

115 Posted by: tbodie at November 16, 2013 08:36 PM (W/hh/)

Excellent, thanks for the info.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at November 16, 2013 04:39 PM (yh0zB)

116 That was my impression as well. Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter ---------------------------- I am pretty sure this is the case. I just don't recall what the current cost per barrel to blast it out of the shale is.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at November 16, 2013 04:39 PM (4Mv1T)

117 I can't imagine they will let it get under $3 anywhere, though. Posted by: Peaches at November 16, 2013 08:37 PM (8lmkt) $3.19 around here. Sad that I think that's low. When I first started driving, there were two gas stations on opposite corners down by the beach that would have a "gas war weekend." They'd get down to $.55 or $.60 a gallon.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 16, 2013 04:40 PM (GEICT)

118 I have a bottle of tequila that Cougar bought me, the label has a skeleton, wearing a tophat, riding a chicken, using a spoon as a lance. It's moron worthy.

Posted by: DC in Towson at November 16, 2013 04:40 PM (eQJwb)

119 I didn't double-post. I'm worse than I thought. Good night, all!

Posted by: Vendette at November 16, 2013 04:40 PM (GAUeg)

120 CarolT- Prayer up for your brother.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at November 16, 2013 04:41 PM (4Mv1T)

121 Current high price per barrel justifies fracking, yes. But I assume technology will only improve, driving the price down

Posted by: Thunderb at November 16, 2013 04:41 PM (zOTsN)

122 78 OT? Toni as a female Thor cosplay. Off of FB and public. http://tinyurl.com/p8aegvs - It's hammer time!

Posted by: WalrusRex at November 16, 2013 04:41 PM (zA51U)

123 Sounds like a black out kinda night. Nah. My shot-slamming days are over. Now I buy good stuff and savor it over time. Boring? Why yes! Yes, I am.

Posted by: The Bourbon in Boehner's Belly at November 16, 2013 04:41 PM (CRY7r)

124 foolish whiteys there is only one brand of tequila and its known as patron

Posted by: navycopjoe at November 16, 2013 04:41 PM (oi+Yq)

125 What is this last barrel of demand?

That the point at which all possible demand has been satisfied and producing more tips the supply/demand equation in the other direction lowering prices (which make other possible demand uses that weren't economical before suddenly economical at the lower price point)

ex. if oil were $5/bbl, oil fired power plants would suddenly become viable again, and people would be installing more oil fired heating furnaces.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/s] at November 16, 2013 04:41 PM (Xlbr8)

126 And I double-posted. I'll go the barrel.

Posted by: Vendette at November 16, 2013 08:39 PM (GAUeg)

Not seeing a double post, boost yerself back up outta there.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at November 16, 2013 04:42 PM (yh0zB)

127 It's moron worthy. Posted by: DC in Towson --------------------- Dat be some bad VooDoo, mahn.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at November 16, 2013 04:42 PM (4Mv1T)

128 I have a bottle of tequila that Cougar bought me, the label has a skeleton, wearing a tophat, riding a chicken, using a spoon as a lance. It's moron worthy. Posted by: DC in Towson at November 16, 2013 08:40 PM (eQJwb) I think I've seen that at the local ABC.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 16, 2013 04:42 PM (GEICT)

129 It's pretty funny around here though. There's a pre-fabricated home lot off the highway with a big sign that says "5 bedroom home. Ready for delivery. Perfect for Oil Fields!" I'm guessing that they set a lot of those up as make shift dorms for the single men out there.

Don't worry though, the liberals are trying to shut of the shales, because of course they are.

Posted by: Lauren at November 16, 2013 07:45 PM (hFL/3)

When they built the STNP, my aunt and uncle lived in Palacios. They took a 2-car garage and converted it into a 2-bedrrom house. They rented it for a goodly sum.

Posted by: Zombie John Gotti at November 16, 2013 04:42 PM (1hekh)

130 Ooop Game on Laters

Posted by: Navycopjoe at November 16, 2013 04:42 PM (dqux0)

131 2.99 here And you do know a lot of the price is taxes, like in NY and CA

Posted by: Thunderb at November 16, 2013 04:43 PM (zOTsN)

132 96 The EPA is on a "Hacks Gone Wild" kick lately

How long before they shut down the shale fields with new regulations they pull out of their asses

Posted by: kbdabear at November 16, 2013 08:35 PM (aTXUx)

===

politicians/bureaucrats can't get cash payoffs unless someone needs something from them.

Posted by: jc at November 16, 2013 04:43 PM (i8c5b)

133 But I assume technology will only improve, driving the price down

Posted by: Thunderb at November 16, 2013 08:41 PM (zOTsN)

And that's what I meant by developing the technology so they can't be priced out of the market.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at November 16, 2013 04:44 PM (yh0zB)

134 129 Ooop
Game on
Laters

Posted by: Navycopjoe at November 16, 2013 08:42 PM (dqux0)

Which one of your cherished teams is losing tonight, ncj?

Posted by: Peaches at November 16, 2013 04:44 PM (8lmkt)

135 Drinking Wild Turkey Rye. Thought I'd try it. Posted by: tbodie -------------------- We're going to need an after-action report on that.

Posted by: Elmer Fudd at November 16, 2013 04:44 PM (aDwsi)

136 So, we've got a battle between Texas and Saudi Arabia.... Get me Holder, the IRS, and the EPA so we can vanquish our foes with red tape!

Posted by: The White House at November 16, 2013 04:44 PM (FcR7P)

137 96 The EPA is on a "Hacks Gone Wild" kick lately - I see the EPA is not letting a town build new fire hydrants because fire is a part of nature too.

Posted by: WalrusRex at November 16, 2013 04:44 PM (zA51U)

138 OK folks, have stuff to do before the ONT. It's my night to stay up all night so I'm hoping for a particularly entertaining ONT tonight.

Anyway, later roonz and roonettez, see you on the ONT. Fear no evil.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at November 16, 2013 04:46 PM (yh0zB)

139 Tequila EspolÃ²n http://suprrman51.tumblr.com/post/16159594497

Posted by: Elmer Fudd at November 16, 2013 04:47 PM (aDwsi)

140 WE MUST SHUT DOWN THE EPA NAZIS!!!!!

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at November 16, 2013 04:48 PM (vHRtU)

141 Later GGE. We are picking up Road Boy #1 at 9:30 and Road Boy #2 at 11:30. I don't like being taxi, but having them out of my cars, and home before midnight? Priceless.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at November 16, 2013 04:48 PM (4Mv1T)

142 If I could, I would head for Texas tomorrow. I can type, I can answer a phone, hell, I would sweep the floor. Sadly, it's not an option and, please, God, let it not be for some time.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at November 16, 2013 04:48 PM (Gk3SS)

143 I remember reading that the positive effects on the Eastern Ohio and Western PA economies from fracking might have counter-intuitively helped Obama win in '12. Not probably from the actual industry folks but from the locals who because of their local booms didn't feel the pain of Obamanics. Anyone know if so?

Posted by: My Name is Nobody at November 16, 2013 04:49 PM (5Q1ZU)

144 Hey, AtC! *drunkenly waves* You know, I've had like a dozen tabs open for days now because of you. We got started on the trailers kick and now I've got all these cool looking movie trailers queued up.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 16, 2013 04:50 PM (GEICT)

145 So is tonight's ONT gonna be a 'Squids gone wild", or what?

BTW,Navy won,42-14.
Foggy and damp.
Navy Cheerleaders don't have elbows.
But many of them will operate weapons systems that can kill your ass.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 16, 2013 04:50 PM (NDA7a)

146 Peaches, I think I've drank more since election day 2008 than I did in the previous 20 years. During the week, it's not "I'm going to have a nice glass of wine or a beer and chill," it's "OK, I just saw Jug Ears or Pelosi or Reid on TV saying some shit and now I need a drink."

Posted by: Donna V. at November 16, 2013 04:51 PM (R3gO3)

147 Elmer Fudd: I will happily report all the after-action I can remember. Later ya'll, gotta go meet the daughter for a birthday dinner . Hers.

Posted by: tbodie at November 16, 2013 04:51 PM (W/hh/)

148 So, we've got a battle between Texas and Saudi Arabia....

Get me Holder, the IRS, and the EPA so we can vanquish our foes with red tape!

Posted by: The White House at November 16, 2013 08:44 PM (FcR7P)

{golf claps}

Posted by: Peaches at November 16, 2013 04:51 PM (8lmkt)

149 I remember in the late 80's there was some kind of energy bust. I had just gotten into the recruiting business and I don't know the history because I was young, stupid, and didn't follow it closely, but chemical engineers that wanted us to place them out of the oil patch and into a different industry had houses they couldn't sell, and refinery skills we couldn't market. Any TX Morons remember this? I am just thinking that EVERYTHING cycles.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at November 16, 2013 04:52 PM (4Mv1T)

150 Omg OT USC cheerleaders. Shocked Dave in Texas doesn't post their pics more often

Posted by: Thunderb at November 16, 2013 04:52 PM (zOTsN)

151 Gooooooaaaaaaalllllllllll!!!!! 4-3

Posted by: Navycopjoe at November 16, 2013 04:53 PM (j8JLb)

152 Hey, AtC!

*drunkenly waves*

You know, I've had like a dozen tabs open for days now because of you. We got started on the trailers kick and now I've got all these cool looking movie trailers queued up. Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 16, 2013 08:50 PM (GEICT)

*waves not drunkenly back*

Trailers are awesome. I scared the doglet (am doglet sitting tonight) when I saw the Divergent trailer and they showed Four's tattoos.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at November 16, 2013 04:54 PM (Gk3SS)

153 My security service has just noed methat I am under surveliinece abs adsuch I wish ti ti notify yiu tha I beeive the POTUS is THE abosule God of creatioan and a
his word RULES ALL. tif

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at November 16, 2013 04:54 PM (vHRtU)

154

My new son in law just swept my daughter off her feet. He's an engineer and just got hired by Shell Oil. There moving to New Orleans 12/1. 100k plus.

To think she used to date a loser Park Ranger. YEHI!!

Posted by: redenzo at November 16, 2013 04:54 PM (vx61Q)

155 15Albie Damned "I have a brother in the oil services biz in Houston and he's offering kids who are set to get their petroleum engineering degrees $125,000 with perks to start.... and they're turning him down" I have a cuz finishing his chemical engineering degree next year who is currently doing an internship with a petroleum company...crazy money. He is getting offers with still a year to finish. I heard he signed last month.

Posted by: Buckeye Abroad at November 16, 2013 04:55 PM (fo46e)

156 Trailers are awesome. I scared the doglet (am doglet sitting tonight) when I saw the Divergent trailer and they showed Four's tattoos. Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at November 16, 2013 08:54 PM (Gk3SS) I haven't seen that one! Trade you for Open Grave?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 16, 2013 04:55 PM (GEICT)

157 Now we just have to make sure we do not export our natural resources at the expense of our National Security...

Posted by: 7 Days in May at November 16, 2013 04:57 PM (j6DTo)

158 Gas is around 3.15 a gallon in this part of FL

The snowbirds have arrived and the tourist season has started so the prices are higher than the summer months

Posted by: kbdabear at November 16, 2013 04:57 PM (aTXUx)

159 Speaking of trailers and squids- This looks like a moron must watch: "Grabbers" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4e3izWdh9WM When space squids attack a small irish fishing village looking for blood to drink, the only defense is to be flat out drunk.(Alcohol toxic to space squids)

Posted by: The Bourbon in Boehner's Belly at November 16, 2013 04:57 PM (CRY7r)

160 Woah woah woah. You're in FL kbdabear??? Where abouts? Roughly speaking.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 16, 2013 04:57 PM (GEICT)

161 Get me Holder, the IRS, and the EPA so we can vanquish our foes with red tape!

Posted by: The White House at November 16, 2013 08:44 PM (FcR7P)

I am sure the EPA has an overtime crew working 24/7 trying to figure out how to stop this fracking business. The worst thing that can happen in a socialist state is for the proletariat to see that jobs and cheaper energy can lead to a better life even for the underclass.

Posted by: Hrothgar (Medicare and DMV Administraitor) at November 16, 2013 04:57 PM (XdnQT)

162 They aren't interested in "rising tide". They would rather put everyone in the same leaky boat.

Posted by: Thunderb at November 16, 2013 04:59 PM (zOTsN)

163 http://tinyurl.com/ph52ypp

utter and complete thruth...

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at November 16, 2013 05:00 PM (vHRtU)

164 Any TX Morons remember this? I am just thinking that EVERYTHING cycles. Posted by: Tobacco Road at November 16, 2013 08:52 PM

I think the 80s Texas oil bust came around the same time that North Sea rigs came online

Posted by: kbdabear at November 16, 2013 05:00 PM (aTXUx)

165 The Spraberry and Wolfcamp (or as the cool kids say Wolfberry) are absolute gamechangers. But wait until you see the Cline Shale. Production similar to the Wolfberry and covers an even bigger area. If you need a blue collar job, get your ass to the permian

Posted by: Ch3cooh at November 16, 2013 05:00 PM (LwKUt)

166 159 Woah woah woah. You're in FL kbdabear???

Where abouts? Roughly speaking. Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 16, 2013

Sarasota

Posted by: kbdabear at November 16, 2013 05:01 PM (aTXUx)

167 Shit Tied 11 min to go

Posted by: Navycopjoe at November 16, 2013 05:02 PM (8sFfo)

168

Posted by: redenzo at November 16, 2013 08:54 PM (vx61Q)

Congrats! Just wondering, since I'm not familiar with NO - are there any middle-class, relatively crime-free neighborhoods in the actual city to live in or is it like a prettier Detroit with the middle-class 'burbs surrounding it and only tourists in the French Quarter?

Posted by: Donna V. at November 16, 2013 05:02 PM (R3gO3)

169 That's not that far. NDH, JohnE and I are all in Jax. I believe BurntheWitch is as well.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 16, 2013 05:02 PM (GEICT)

170 So is tonight's ONT gonna be a 'Squids gone wild", or what? BTW,Navy won,42-14. Foggy and damp. Navy Cheerleaders don't have elbows. But many of them will operate weapons systems that can kill your ass. Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 16, 2013 08:50 PM (NDA7a) My sad self is still around. I may not feel well, but I'm dedicated. Navy's defense looked a lot better than last week. On the other hand, a lot of dropped passes on Southern Alabama's side always helped. It's great t have a QB who can throw when you have the triple option. I was at the game last week. So sad I couldn't connect with you.

Posted by: Vendette at November 16, 2013 05:02 PM (GAUeg)

171 Here in Colorado they have been running anti-fracking ads. My brother has informed me that fracking causes flammable tap water. I informed him that the areas with that problem had flammable tap water before they were tracking. He was not to be dissuaded.

Posted by: Mindy is standing on her head because the world is upside down at November 16, 2013 05:02 PM (lCBX+)

Posted by: Comrade Jesse, not welcoming our socialist overlords at November 16, 2013 05:02 PM (kkbgQ)

173 Here ya go Empress. Open Grave http://www.imdb.com/video/imdb/vi1003726873

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 16, 2013 05:03 PM (GEICT)

174 Am I the only moron who couldn't stand Divergent? Seriously the Dauntless faction were a bunch of assholes and her stupid post-apocalyptic world collapses under any scrutiny of the plot.

Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at November 16, 2013 05:03 PM (RZ8pf)

175 Shit
Tied
11 min to go

Posted by: Navycopjoe at November 16, 2013 09:02 PM (8sFfo)

It's almost like you've never met yourself . . .

Posted by: Peaches at November 16, 2013 05:03 PM (8lmkt)

176 I got a big full moon out there. So much for Leonides and comets...

Posted by: Comrade Jesse, not welcoming our socialist overlords at November 16, 2013 05:04 PM (kkbgQ)

177 Tobacco Road, Midland/Odessa is the heart of boom/bust country. So many fortunes won and lost in short periods of time. So yes, you were remembering correctly. And I am by no means a Texas oil expert - I am relatively young and have not lived in Texas my whole life. But I hear stories. And the story of the shale oil boom is a good ol' Texas tale of risk, gumption and know-how. And it has opened up a vast well of oil that the world has never seen before, or at least never been able to get to. Will this cycle end up in another huge bust? Time will tell, and every other Texas oil boom has ended with a big bust. But this one is not isolated to Texas - North Dakota is booming as well, and this one seems to be really rocking the mid-east oil sheiks. As someone said upthread, get while the getting is good and stash your money away. The guys with a CDL who were driving a school bus for $11/hour and are now making up to $100K/year driving for the oil companies - they need to bank that money while they can. And by bank I mean stuff in your mattress - do NOT pour it into the NEXT big oil play. But you knew that already!

Posted by: Pilot141 at November 16, 2013 05:04 PM (zNsPb)

178 My brother has informed me that fracking causes flammable tap water.

lmao, Mindy!!!!

Posted by: Peaches at November 16, 2013 05:04 PM (8lmkt)

179 RED CARD!!!! Switching to the 4-1-2 Here comes the evil!!

Posted by: Navycopjoe at November 16, 2013 05:05 PM (0XV8C)

180 Some of you fuckers couldn't squeeze the air out of chip bag... good night....
.

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at November 16, 2013 05:06 PM (vHRtU)

181 According to wiki the oil bust in the early 80s was from over production everywhere after the energy crisis if the late 70s. According to wiki, industrialized nations had reduced consumption 13%, which also led to the glut

Posted by: Thunderb at November 16, 2013 05:06 PM (zOTsN)

182 > I remember reading that the positive effects on the Eastern Ohio and Western PA economies from fracking might have counter-intuitively helped Obama win in '12. < don't blame us blame romney he was running

Posted by: newrouter at November 16, 2013 05:06 PM (dsgCY)

183 They admitted Paul to the hospital but no one can tell me whatÂ’s wrong with him. IÂ’m waiting for his nurse to call me.

Posted by: CarolT at November 16, 2013 05:07 PM (z4WKX)

184

172 I can no longer comment on youtube. It must be because I refused to hand over my first born male child to google. They are really pissing people off with their constant asking for your real name and cell phone numbers. Posted by: Comrade Jesse, not welcoming our socialist overlords at November 16, 2013 09:02 PM (kkbgQ)

Same thing happened to me. But really, it's a waste commenting there anyway. Reading Youtube comments is like reading the ones on Yahoo News - they make you despair of the future of the human race, because when so many are so stupid, we certainly will not survive.

Time for another drink.

Posted by: Donna V. at November 16, 2013 05:07 PM (R3gO3)

185 Too much fracking will make you go blind.

Posted by: Joey Biden at November 16, 2013 05:07 PM (rkewj)

186 Prayers for Paul, CarolT.

Posted by: Donna V. at November 16, 2013 05:08 PM (R3gO3)

187 Vendette

Season tickets every year.
Let us know ahead of time for next year.

You can catch me at the Yahoo group.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 16, 2013 05:09 PM (NDA7a)

188 They admitted Paul to the hospital but no one can tell me whatÂ’s wrong with him. IÂ’m waiting for his nurse to call me.

Posted by: CarolT at November 16, 2013 09:07 PM (z4WKX)

So frustrating, Carol . . . hopefully nurse will call back soon. Me, I'd be bugging the living crap out of 'em.

Posted by: Peaches at November 16, 2013 05:09 PM (8lmkt)

189 To say Saudis have a cost advantage is a slight understatement. They're pulling it out of some wells at a cost of 50 cents a barrel. And its the high quality shit. Light, sweet crude. They can undercut anyone on a whim and still be making thousands of a percert in profit. Did I mention we should nuke Mecca? Just for the hell of it.

Posted by: UWP at November 16, 2013 05:09 PM (fdXMW)

190 I hate to admit it, but I am watching the CBS special on JFK assassination.

Posted by: CarolT at November 16, 2013 05:10 PM (z4WKX)

191 Congrats! Just wondering, since I'm not familiar with NO - are there any middle-class, relatively crime-free neighborhoods in the actual city to live in or is it like a prettier Detroit with the middle-class 'burbs surrounding it and only tourists in the French Quarter? Posted by: Donna V. at November 16, 2013 09:02 PM

N'awlins was a war zone before the MSM's Pet Hurricane hit, and the Chocolate City is turning into the Guacamole City since illegals swarmed there for the $15/hr cleanup jobs that somehow the NOLA refugees "never got tole bout"

From what I hear, best to look in the suburbs

Posted by: kbdabear at November 16, 2013 05:10 PM (aTXUx)

192

International Energy Agency, 12 Nov 13: "Technology and high prices are opening up new oil resources, but this does not mean the world is on the verge of an era of oil abundance, according to the International Energy AgencyÂ’s (IEA) 2013 edition of the World Energy Outlook (WEO-2013). Although rising oil output from North America and Brazil reduces the role of OPEC countries in quenching the worldÂ’s thirst for oil over the next decade, the Middle East Â— the only large source of low-cost oil Â— takes back its role as a key source of oil supply growth from the mid-2020s."

Web site: http://www.iea.org/

Posted by: DEC (Jungle Trader) at November 16, 2013 05:11 PM (neWgg)

193 171 Here in Colorado they have been running anti-fracking ads. My brother has informed me that fracking causes flammable tap water. I informed him that the areas with that problem had flammable tap water before they were tracking. He was not to be dissuaded. - My solution is that any citizen (or pre-citizen) who lives in atown, county, of state that bans fracking needs to pay a $10/gallon sunshine surtax to build cars that run on sunshine.

Posted by: WalrusRex at November 16, 2013 05:11 PM (zA51U)

194 Am I the only moron who couldn't stand Divergent? Seriously the Dauntless faction were a bunch of assholes and her stupid post-apocalyptic world collapses under any scrutiny of the plot. Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at November 16, 2013 09:03 PM (RZ8pf)

I really liked Divergent and Insurgent and Allegiant were not the disappointments that the rest of the Maze Runner series was.

Dauntless are supposed to be assholes and it becomes clear in the other books that the world is in fact unsustainable. Part of the reason I like it is because the books are about the utter futility of trying to perfect human nature. All the attempts to slot people into roles and force them into perfect little places only ends in blood everywhere.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at November 16, 2013 05:11 PM (Gk3SS)

195 Same thing happened to me. But really, it's a waste commenting there anyway. Reading Youtube commentsis like reading the ones on Yahoo News - they make you despair of the future of the human race, because when so many are so stupid, we certainly will not survive.

Time for another drink. Posted by: Donna V. at November 16, 2013 09:07 PM

Watch a clip from a movie on youtube and most of the comments are idiots repeating lines from the clip you just saw

Posted by: kbdabear at November 16, 2013 05:12 PM (aTXUx)

196 What the TX stuff does is put a worldwide cap on the price of oil. Once we're capable of producing the "last barrel of demand", we could always produce a bit more and collapse the price to whatever level we wanted to. Its the "last barrel" that sets the overall price. I've been saying for years we didn't need to produce all our own oil, but we needed to be in the game for leverage. Meanwhile, the 'cool kids' have been pushing ethanol, wind, and solar.

Posted by: --- at November 16, 2013 05:12 PM (MMC8r)

197 I watched Pacific Rim the other day. It's a good thing Charlie Hunnam is pretty or I would have wanted my money back. Why did they have to talk if their minds were linked was just one of the many things that pulled me out of the story.

Posted by: no good deed at November 16, 2013 05:12 PM (k55Fc)

198 Saudis dont refine. And they have to ship. Not to mention are vulnerable to price fluctuations due to political instability. Like Iran choking off the straights of Hormuz. Advantage, fracking

Posted by: Thunderb at November 16, 2013 05:13 PM (zOTsN)

199 Nood.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at November 16, 2013 05:13 PM (Gk3SS)

200 176 I got a big full moon out there. So much for Leonides and comets... "Unfortunately, the full moon (known as the "Beaver" moon) comes Sunday, which will wash out all but the very brightest meteors from view." Hell with the meteors, I wanna see this beaver moon stunt

Posted by: Dick Poulin at November 16, 2013 05:14 PM (sMt7r)

201 I hate to admit it, but I am watching the CBS special on JFK assassination - Did you see Dan Rather whining that CBS unpersoned him even though he was CBS's big reporter on that? How much Schadenfreude can one man take?

Posted by: WalrusRex at November 16, 2013 05:14 PM (zA51U)

202 Meanwhile, the 'cool kids' have been pushing ethanol, wind, and solar.

Posted by: --- at November 16, 2013 09:12 PM (MMC8r)

Well, after all, that cool stuff is free, renewable, sustainable, and requires no human intervention to keep it running.

Posted by: Hrothgar (Medicare and DMV Administraitor) at November 16, 2013 05:15 PM (XdnQT)

203 Donna V, Empire of Jeff ran(?) a restaurant in NO within recent memory. He'd probably be the best moron resource. Metarie used to be pretty nice as a suburb, but that was years ago.

Posted by: The Bourbon in Boehner's Belly at November 16, 2013 05:15 PM (CRY7r)

204 Did you say beaver moon?

Posted by: The morons at November 16, 2013 05:16 PM (R3gO3)

205 Big boom in West Texas in late 70s, early 80s at the end of the Carter years, beginning of Reagan. Price driven. Activity was CRAZY and Midland/Odessa as well as Houston were booming. In 1986 price of oil dropped precipitously and stayed low. Everyone left town from the area, including the little towns that were part of the industry. Of course, the old timers and natives stayed, some of the boomers. Everything including real estate sold for a song in the late 80s. Friend bought a former country club with swimming pool and 5 acres for $30K.

This boom is bigger. Frac/horizontal drilling driven. And $100 oil. We had a price dive in 08 to $60 a bbl which slowed but didn't stop things. But now it's cooking. And yes, a price crash could kill the boom.

Posted by: Sphynx at November 16, 2013 05:16 PM (cll/q)

206 "Unfortunately, the full moon (known as the "Beaver" moon) comes Sunday, which will wash out all but the very brightest meteors from view."

Hell with the meteors, I wanna see this beaver moon stunt Posted by: Dick Poulin at November 16, 2013 09:14 PM

He said beaver .. moon .. heh heh, heh heh

Posted by: Beevis at November 16, 2013 05:16 PM (aTXUx)

207 Well I know my opinion holds no weight against the Moron Queen. But then I wasn't a fan of the Hunger Games either. I think my biggest annoyance with both series is how they got pushed on elementary school kids. They became a popularity thing, you weren't cool if you hadn't read them. And I feel that the majority of 4th and 5th grade kids were not ready yet for those types of stories.

Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at November 16, 2013 05:16 PM (RZ8pf)

208 Nice beaver moon

Posted by: Frank Drebin at November 16, 2013 05:18 PM (aTXUx)

209 Posted by: Thunderb at November 16, 2013 09:13 PM (zOTsN)

Offhand, I think I would be a bit leery of signing up to crew on a Very Large Container ship full of refined gasoline, especially if it had to transit the Straits of Hormuz.

Posted by: Hrothgar (Medicare and DMV Administraitor) at November 16, 2013 05:18 PM (XdnQT)

210 Wait .. we elected a Moron Queen?

I missed the crowning and parade

Posted by: kbdabear at November 16, 2013 05:19 PM (aTXUx)

211 Peaches, there is such a thing as flammable tap water, but it's not caused by fracking. It's just more common where fracking is likely to occur because of rich fuel deposits.

Posted by: Mindy is standing on her head because the world is upside down at November 16, 2013 05:19 PM (lCBX+)

212 Also, Saudi Arabia isn't so much a country as it is one guy's yard. People look at it like a country, but a guy owns it, and makes it look like a country. Thanks to the Brits.

Posted by: UWP at November 16, 2013 05:19 PM (fdXMW)

213 And yes, a price crash could kill the boom.

Posted by: Sphynx at November 16, 2013 09:16 PM (cll/q)

High speed rail will decrease the need for gasoline and collapse this market as well.

Posted by: Joe Bidong at November 16, 2013 05:20 PM (XdnQT)

214 I don't know if it's because I'm burned out from doing nothing but reading for the past three months or what, PGiS, but I'm having a tough time getting into "Allegiant." I liked the first two books though.

Posted by: no good deed at November 16, 2013 05:20 PM (k55Fc)

215 There is an even bigger shale oil play in Oklahoma. 70 billion (billion!) barrels of recoverable oil, estimated. It will start to be developed in a year or two. Let us shed a brief tear for OPEC, or not, as it were.

Posted by: Severe Conservative riding Orca at November 16, 2013 05:21 PM (v6hyJ)

216 If the Queen isn't AlextheChick, keep silent. Ravages.

Posted by: Vendette at November 16, 2013 05:22 PM (GAUeg)

217 Carol T,
Prayers, for you and your brother.
Did they take him off IV Antibiotics?
I thought he was doing better.

I'm still praying for you both...

Posted by: ChrisP at November 16, 2013 05:23 PM (BpTC0)

218 Well I know my opinion holds no weight against the Moron Queen.

Dude, I didn't mean it like that. I was just explaining why I liked them. You didn't and you pointed out some valid reasons why. I wasn't attempting to slight your opinion in any way.

But then I wasn't a fan of the Hunger Games either. I think my biggest annoyance with both series is how they got pushed on elementary school kids. They became a popularity thing, you weren't cool if you hadn't read them. And I feel that the majority of 4th and 5th grade kids were not ready yet for those types of stories. Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at November 16, 2013 09:16 PM (RZ8pf)

I completely and totally agree with that in every way. These are not children's books and I wouldn't let my hypothetical 13 year old read them, let alone a 9 or 10 year old.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at November 16, 2013 05:23 PM (Gk3SS)

219 I have been reading a lot of middle grade fiction lately since my son is in middle school now. Some of it is good and some of it is dreck but it all seems to have one feature in common, the automatic assumption it will be either a trilogy or a series so most of the stories don't wrap up in one book. I,Q was the worst for that lately, it is a good story though, thr Mossad are featured in it.

Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at November 16, 2013 05:24 PM (RZ8pf)

220 Doesnt matter if you call it Saudi Arabia or joe Blow. If the straights of Hormuz are closed by Iran, they " own" the oil. Like a pirate. That's a problem. And why Saudi doesn't want Iran to have a nuke

Posted by: Thunderb at November 16, 2013 05:25 PM (zOTsN)

221

Wait .. we elected a Moron Queen?

I missed the crowning and parade

I'm sure JeffB looked radiant in his gown.

Posted by: garrett at November 16, 2013 05:29 PM (RWoxq)

222 Alexthechick, those books are on the "approved" list in public school now. Even some elementary schools though our school librarian last year said "no way" to them. She isn't participating in the Battle of thr Books this year either because all the books were really inappropriate for 4th grade readers. My "moron queen" didn't mean I thought you were slighting my opinion.

Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at November 16, 2013 05:30 PM (RZ8pf)

223 Prayers, for you and your brother. Did they take him off IV Antibiotics? I thought he was doing better. I'm still praying for you both... Posted by: ChrisP at November 16, 2013 09:23 PM (BpTC0) He told me they removed the picline port this week. Piclines are for the antibiotics that are so strong they canÂ’t touch your skin or theyÂ’ll burn it. I called before nine & nurse still hasnÂ’t called me. Thank you for your prayers. HeÂ’s also had lung problems this week, his oxygen levels werenÂ’t high enough. Carol Watching this JFK special shows how the media ruined the evidence. They should not have let people know that Oswald was going to be transferred ahead of time. Rather said they didnÂ’t know how to report live, they were making it up as they went.

Posted by: CarolT at November 16, 2013 05:36 PM (z4WKX)

224 I've read a lot of YA as my daughter has grown up. Mostly to prescreen for approval. It is scary how many of books that sound good drop the suicide, sex scene, gay come-on at about the 2/3 to 3/4 mark. Right after the typical parent gets tired of the book and stops reading.

Posted by: PMRich at November 16, 2013 05:39 PM (x/BtJ)

225 So racist rednecks in Texas are getting rich through raping the environment once again. Oh, don't think this will last for long. Presidential advisor Valerie Jarrett has plans for this.

And our wise multiracial President will act on them. Believe it, wingnuts.

Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, Vermont at November 16, 2013 05:41 PM (1pJbs)

226 BCochran1981- re: Gas wars
I'm old enough to remember gas wars of 19.9 cents. Even when I was 20 you could fill the tank and wash the car for $5. I made $0.50/hour :-)

Posted by: free tibet, etc. at November 16, 2013 05:56 PM (jAc/f)

227

Watching "The Challenger Disaster" on Discovery. Very good, example of govt. failure, if was is presented is true. I'll do some digging after reading the ONT and watching the rest.

Worth watching IMO.

Posted by: The Farmer at November 16, 2013 06:22 PM (eBupg)

228 Here in Colorado they have been running anti-fracking ads. My brother has informed me that fracking causes flammable tap water. I informed him that the areas with that problem had flammable tap water before they were tracking. He was not to be dissuaded. Posted by: Mindy is standing on her head because the world is upside down at November 16, 2013 09:02 PM (lCBX+) What? Colorado has fire water? That be heap big deal.

Posted by: Indian chief with tear running down his cheek at November 16, 2013 06:30 PM (3sZO1)

229 20 My oldest was going to school at UTPB in Midland/Odessa before he joined the Corps.

Midland/Odessa is a great place to be FROM. But hey, work is work and if ya gotta feed the tribe, there's money to be made.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at November 16, 2013 07:55 PM (60Vyp)

My youngest started there this year for a Petroleum Engineering degree. I told him he better finish in 4 years or he is throwing $120K to the wind.

So far he is A's and B's while swimming for UTPB as a freshman.

BTW, UT Permian Basin has several $10K 4 year degrees, all in hard science. That's $2.5K per year tuition & books. You only need to maintain a 2.0 average and finish in 4 years.

Posted by: TexBob at November 16, 2013 07:28 PM (6S4Ai)

230 I live outside Corpus Christi. Our school district is months behind on maintenance, because they had to pull all their maintenance guys who had CDLs and put them in school buses because all the bus drivers had departed for Eagle Ford. But everyone's pretty damn cheerful about it because everyone's so happy about the prosperity. I am friends with a couple who are landsmen (deal with rights to land re drilling leases and stuff)--neither of whom have college degrees, and who just paid cash for a very nice new house, at age 32. How nice would that be to have no mortgage at that age? Agree with the comments regarding the mobile home cities, dorm buildings and so on that are going up by the side of the freeways in south/central TX. You can't duck into a roadside Whataburger in this part of the state without standing in line with 20 roughnecks. Wish we could just secede now.

Posted by: Republic of Texas 2: Electric Boogaloo at November 16, 2013 07:38 PM (Gk2GE)

231 Wish we could just secede now. Posted by: Republic of Texas 2: Electric Boogaloo at November 16, 2013 11:38 PM (Gk2GE) Amen brother!

Posted by: TexBob at November 16, 2013 07:45 PM (6S4Ai)

232

I worked for a French owned oil field service company in Monahans, TX in June, 1994 and, well, 120F, tied a state record, and Nomex firesuits don't breathe. And the sand just reflects the Sun.

But, unlike Midland, where I also lived for a while, you can drnk water straight from the tap in Monahans. Midland tap water, tastes like a spoonful of salt and baking soda added to every glass...

Posted by: Ed Mahmoud at November 16, 2013 11:17 PM (xLgUX)

233 Bing 'Burning Springs, NY'. Or 'Burning Springs, WV'.

Posted by: Ed Mahmoud at November 16, 2013 11:23 PM (xLgUX)

234 Our nephew just got a job with Conoco-Phillips. His great-grandfather was an executive for them, when they were just Conoco. Got out some of Paw-Paw's promotional trinkets to take him at Thanksgiving. Maybe he can wear the tie clip with the tiny wooden boot on his first day of work...

Posted by: Sal at November 17, 2013 04:30 AM (lrTwr)

235 Yeah. Go to Texas, not North Dakota. Texas. Texas.

Posted by: runninrebel at November 17, 2013 04:43 AM (t+la8)

236 Two points;

1. Price of housing in Texas: Please, before you move to Texas; call a motel there and ask for the weekly price of a room and go on the internet and look at home rental or purchase prices in Midland, Odessa, San Angelo, Laredo, Devine, Pearsall Tx. Then call to see if it is still available. It will blow your mind. And it is not advised to drink the water from the tap with out a RO unit installed.
2: Shale Oil field vs Saudi oil: Back when I was a fracker it was industry standard lore that the average vertical oil well production flowed/pumpjacked/N2-CO2 injected oil well average, in the Permian basin (Midland/Odessa) was 10 bbl a day with a barrel being 42 gallons. There are 10's of thousands of these decades old oil wells in proven fields with proven reserves and in the 70's it was "standard lore" that the then conventional production services; including acidization and fracking, still only produced 5 to 10% of the oil in the zone. These conventional vertical wells take used to take 30 + days to drill, complete, and make available for piping/trucking. I believe I read that the current horizontal fracking increase's that production to 20 to 30% of the hydrocarbons in the zone. This boom can last a long time.
Saudi Oil wells; as I was told by a man that had spent 15 years there for Aramco, at that time, early 70's, oil wells took 5 days to drill, complete, and produce, flowed, without fracking or any mechanical/gas service, 25,000 bbls a day and they flared all the NG that came out of every well.

Posted by: Tortuga at November 17, 2013 04:51 AM (FmyWU)

237 As far as folks thinking on moving to Texas. Wait a minute,there are some bad issues in the state of Texas: we have tornadoes every spring and hail storms a lot of spring and summers, itÂ’s a red state, with conservatives everywhere except in the state capitol, there are black widows, tarantulas, brown recluse spiders, rattlesnakes, scorpions, ticks, chiggers, mosquitoes with WEST NILE virus, unrepentant democrats lurking in the shadows, we have the death penalty for killers, and use it; pickups that have full gun racks, itÂ’s a right to work state with very low unemployment benefits, the Federal Govt is always suing us because we believe in the Constitution, we pay property taxes so you never Â“ownÂ” your home and sales taxes, itÂ’s hot in the summer +105Ã‚Â° F sometimes from June to October, it takes 10 hours to drive across the whole state, north to south or east to west, our legislature threatens us every 2 years whether itÂ’s Dumblicans or Republicrats; So, help me out here fellow Texicans, itÂ’s getting crowded on the morning commutes.

Posted by: Tortuga at November 17, 2013 04:59 AM (FmyWU)

238 Threads dead but I got 2 cents. Know the area well. The evionuts tried pulling a lizard out their butt to shut the place down CA style. The folks down their don't take to kindly to outsiders telling them what to do with their land. And when I say their land, TX is like 85% privet owned and they take land rights very seriously. The most well maintained and productive state in the country, even in the most destitute places like around Lubbock. Cotton fields (they produce over half the countries needs) with oil wells and big wind mills in the middle of them. Got friends who own some land and get money from the oil companies to drill on it. Texas rocks! Freedom and liberty. You can pretty much do what you want as long as you don't mess with anyone else's freedom or property.

Posted by: jrcobbstr at November 17, 2013 07:54 AM (iX/Pa)

239

I've been driving from San Antonio down to Goliad, Texas, for a good few years - for book events, mostly. I can confirm personally that the change in various little towns has been incredible. Acquaintances in Goliad have conformed our superficial observations. The difference in all those little towns has been like night and day. They were dying on the vine, all boarded-up storefronts five years ago, and now lively and crowded.

Hope they spend it all wisely - this is a nice part of the US. I'd rather that what I pay at the gas pump goes to Texas than to Saudi Arabia.

Posted by: Sgt. Mom at November 17, 2013 04:03 PM (Asjr7)

240 I work in the eagleford shale field. Last year I paid $550 a month for a camper spot on a muddy field, with electric and water and direct tv included in that price. Now that same spot is only $425 a month.    You can get other spots out of city limits for as cheap as $350, but thats the cheapest i have seen within an hour of the field (the field being a 7 county strip currently). I only work in 3 or 4 county area mainly.

     Its funny, you can get a hotel cheaper in san antonio than in a small town an hour outside of it, which is the opposite of how it normally is. A Super 8 room is $160ish a night, 2 hours north it is $60ish a night.

      There are a lot of man camp portable buildings/cabins set up now, but most monthly rents for these are in the $1200 range.

         Hot stock tip.... Valero is building gas stations in all these small towns....just saying.

   Oh by the way... Dominion was drilling and completing one and two stage verticles in the marcellus in 15 days, but they only produced around 300k to 500k mcf per day nat gas.

      Eog just completed a well that peaked at 7500 bbl in one 24 hour period, no info on number of stages:http://tinyurl.com/p43wlno
     I only been in the game for 5 years, but the fracking tech has gotten a lot better in that short time. Now they are about to start using natural gas gel as the frack medium instead of water, sucks for my discipline but will remove another argument from the green's arsenal.

Posted by: plithy at November 17, 2013 07:17 PM (i9tfZ)

241 lol, just read 238's post. entering McMullen county on hwy 72 from 97, there is handpainted sign that reads "You are now entering the FREE STATE of McMullen County". I always get a chuckle when i pass that sign.

Posted by: plithy at November 17, 2013 07:21 PM (i9tfZ)

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