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October 12, 2013

Book Claim: JFK Was a Meth Addict
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1 Wasn't the original brand name Pervitin? Would explain a lot.

Posted by: fluffy at October 12, 2013 11:58 AM (z9HTb)

2 EBT thing on Drudge now. A little mood music: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLTTX35LNJo Also, wasn't that a possible flashpoint for a possible domestic insurrection? http://tinyurl.com/9cr8rx6

Posted by: The Hat that Food Stamps bought at October 12, 2013 11:59 AM (Vk2pI)

3 I want to see that cat that knocks things over again.

Posted by: Sarahw at October 12, 2013 11:59 AM (LYwCh)

4 He loved my Baby Blue!

Posted by: Walter White at October 12, 2013 12:01 PM (4Av7p)

5 And this is new news, How?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 12, 2013 12:03 PM (UbDLm)

6 live stream, Lonegan for Senate rally with Sarah Palin and Mark Levin http://goo.gl/BM7NuU

Posted by: Jose at October 12, 2013 12:03 PM (zc/sw)

7 TPH, yeah broke EBT means the FSA can't afford their smokes and steaks.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 12, 2013 12:06 PM (XrBCE)

8 is this thread politics snark ok open thread, or is the EBT purp thread the politics snark ok thread? And Ace, I thought you were on vacation? Gosh!

Posted by: Yip at October 12, 2013 12:06 PM (/jHWN)

I'm reading "I Will Bear Witness", Victor Klemperer's diaries which he secretly kept during the years 1933-1945. He was a Jew, living in Dresden, and the diaries show how the Nazi grip on German life grew tighter and tighter over the years. I'm still in the early part, but already some of it looks creepily similar to our present days. We don't have death camps, of course, but neither did they in 1934. Mostly I notice how people seem to be either nonchalant about the increase in lawlessness by the state, or frozen in despair and disbelief.

"Hindenburg dies at nine o'clock on the 2nd of August, one hour later a "law" of the Reich Government of August 1 appears: The offices of the President and the Chancellor are united in Hitler's person, the army (Wehrmacht) will give its oath to him, and at half past six the troops in Dresden swore their oath and everything is completely calm. Our butcher says indifferently: "Why vote first? It just costs a lot of money." The people hardly notice this complete coup d'Ã©tat, it all takes place in silence, drowned out by hymns to the dead Hindenburg. I would swear that millions upon millions have no idea what a monstrous thing has occurred. -- Eva says, "And we belong to this band of slaves.""

Posted by: Dr. Mabuse at October 12, 2013 12:06 PM (FkH4y)

10 So that's why he was so relaxed. I hate revisionist history "authors".

Posted by: SGT. York at October 12, 2013 12:07 PM (2QQfj)

11 Meth would explain a lot of 20th century history. If only we knew what the lunatics on the Hill were free basing we might be able to understand them too.

Posted by: Fritz at October 12, 2013 12:08 PM (UzPAd)

12 Wow....that was one short vacation, aka....Friday night.

Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami - GO CARDS!!! at October 12, 2013 12:08 PM (bCEmE)

13 I could see regular Amphetamine but Meth? That's a bit of a stretch.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose at October 12, 2013 12:08 PM (TOGBD)

14 Is this a political thread or a medical complaints thread?

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at October 12, 2013 12:10 PM (i4xvM)

15 If this chaos can be caused by a "computer upgrade" with EBT software, just image what will happen if some similar "accident" happens with electronic medical records and Obamacare exchangesÂ…

Posted by: The Hat that Food Stamps bought at October 12, 2013 12:11 PM (Vk2pI)

16 First they came for the Jews in Dresden but I was eating in a New York silence-enforced restaurant, so I said nothing...

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at October 12, 2013 12:11 PM (i4xvM)

I don't know about meth, but wasn't it already pretty well known that JFK was hooked on those painkillers "Dr. Feelgood" (a complete quack beloved by the Beautiful People because he was basically their pusher) shot him up with?

Of course, it doesn't matter. If proof came out tomorrow that the brothers Kennedy not only killed Marilyn Monroe, but personally hacked her to death with axes and then had sex with her toaster, it wouldn't matter - because CAMELOT!

Posted by: Donna V. at October 12, 2013 12:11 PM (R3gO3)

18 Back then, it was called Speed.

Posted by: RoadRunner at October 12, 2013 12:12 PM (fvsiN)

19 Twitchy EBT link
http://tinyurl.com/l5393pm

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 12, 2013 12:12 PM (XrBCE)

20 Saw something on Fox that said Helen Thomas claimed to have dated JFK once and complained he was "too fresh."

The mind boggles...and boggles...and boggles...

Posted by: Jane D'oh, Tea Partier Extraordinaire at October 12, 2013 12:13 PM (lVPtV)

21 Guys, check out the link, great article. I don't know if it's true, but it's like The Kennedy Years reimagined by Phillip K. Dick. Creepy and hilarious.

Posted by: Eton Cox at October 12, 2013 12:13 PM (q177U)

22 Meth, eh?

Posted by: Lincolntf BC is Beating Clemson 7-0 at October 12, 2013 12:14 PM (ZshNr)

23 Meth bitches!

Posted by: Yip at October 12, 2013 12:15 PM (/jHWN)

24 19 Twitchy EBT link
http://tinyurl.com/l5393pm

Behold. Obamabots in a panic. tee hee

Posted by: Jane D'oh, Tea Partier Extraordinaire at October 12, 2013 12:15 PM (lVPtV)

Saw something on Fox that said Helen Thomas claimed to have dated JFK once and complained he was "too fresh." Posted by: Jane D'oh, Tea Partier Extraordinaire at October 12, 2013 04:13 PM (lVPtV)

That in and of itself is conclusive proof that JFK was on drugs - he looked at Helen Thomas and thought "Hot Babe."

Posted by: Donna V. at October 12, 2013 12:15 PM (R3gO3)

26 Heck, I didn't know meth was even available back then. It does read as though it were a different concoction. I didn't see anything about drain cleaner and the like in this piece.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 12, 2013 12:15 PM (DmNpO)

27 It was considered a wonder drug more or less in those days. Very big in Japan during and after WWII. Until, you know, that whole addiction, psychotic break thing. Like valium later on, docs used to pass that out like M&Ms, until....

Posted by: John Boehner, SuperGenius at October 12, 2013 12:16 PM (CRY7r)

28 Look at the Crime and Drug Statistics. Meth users often come to violent ends.

Posted by: chickens, roost, some assembly required at October 12, 2013 12:16 PM (D+lxs)

29 .

Posted by: Lincolntf at October 12, 2013 12:17 PM (ZshNr)

30 Wait, I thought Ace was on vacation. Also, if anybody hasn't seen it. Go to Boston Dynamics youtube page and watch their latest robot videos to see the current state of the art. In the near future, ie 2020s, 2030s, we'll be able to build robot versions of nearly any animal we see in nature. Birds, dogs, mules, etc. Robotics is really starting to pick up steam. Next decade or two are gonna see some rapid progress.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 12, 2013 12:17 PM (ZPrif)

31 Here's the link to Helen Thomas dated JFK (proof, I suppose, that he was indeed on meth):

http://tinyurl.com/n2rgnq3

Posted by: Jane D'oh, Tea Partier Extraordinaire at October 12, 2013 12:17 PM (lVPtV)

32 Say my name!

Posted by: Heisenberg at October 12, 2013 12:20 PM (ruCZw)

33 "Mad Men" had a pretty funny/weird episode this last season when a "Dr Feelgood" type came to the office to give everyone "vitamin injections".

Posted by: John Boehner, SuperGenius at October 12, 2013 12:20 PM (CRY7r)

34 I just noticed this was a big old stomp on Purp's EBT thread.

Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami - GO CARDS!!! at October 12, 2013 12:21 PM (bCEmE)

35 30. There are millions of them mimicking voters already. We call em LIVs.

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at October 12, 2013 12:22 PM (l0lja)

36 A little JFK mood music: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AUVGrUTE-Q

Posted by: The Tweeker's Hat at October 12, 2013 12:24 PM (Vk2pI)

37 JFK was also supposedly doing acid with, and sleeping with, Mary Pinchot Meyer, wife of CIA officer Cord Meyer. Insanely enough, LSD's big introduction to America came not through the drug counterculture, but via the Agency, which had bought up enormous quantities of it.

Mary Meyer was later found dead under odd circumstances, and eminence grise James Jesus Angleton of Agency counterintelligence was apparently quite keen to take her personal diary into custody, from which it has never reappeared.

Not making any of this up.

No matter how bizarre the story is regarding the Kennedys, I suspect that the actual behind the scenes realities were even more nuts.

Posted by: torquewrench at October 12, 2013 12:25 PM (gqT4g)

38 Jane D'Oh. Just think if they have the same crack IT folks as working on 404Care trying to fix the EBT glitch. Might see a resolution in #two weeks.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 12, 2013 12:25 PM (XrBCE)

39 Ace posted while I was composing. If you save something in draft for a minute or two it gets the time stamp of the draft save unless its explicitly posted public with manually updated time stamp.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at October 12, 2013 12:25 PM (l5zzX)

40 Thanks Jose for Palin & Levin link.

Posted by: CarolT at October 12, 2013 12:25 PM (z4WKX)

41 OMG, what a story!

Posted by: Peaches at October 12, 2013 12:25 PM (8lmkt)

42 JFK was a democrat, so it's OK!

Posted by: deepred at October 12, 2013 12:26 PM (RHYM4)

43 Florida has coyotes now. Pythons, monitors, giant tree frogs, bufo toads, and now coyotes.... Can't wait for the inevitable mamba or cobra.

Posted by: Beagle at October 12, 2013 12:27 PM (sOtz/)

44 Barack Obama Tried to Kill Me With My Own Gun...

http://tinyurl.com/kyslrpu

Posted by: Richard McEnroe at October 12, 2013 12:27 PM (qvify)

45 Or a mamba-cobra hybrid - a mambra.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 12, 2013 12:28 PM (XrBCE)

46 No matter how bizarre the story is regarding the Kennedys, I suspect that the actual behind the scenes realities were even more nuts
Erah, Willie was going to be a doctah.

Posted by: Ted! at October 12, 2013 12:29 PM (z9HTb)

From the article: Jacobson plunged a needle Â“directly into KennedyÂ’s throat and pumped methamphetamine into his voice box.Â”

***

I call BS.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at October 12, 2013 12:29 PM (N/Sup)

48 Mentholyptus people. mentholyptus... he had a Vicks Vapor Rub fetish

Posted by: Zombie Ted Kennedy at October 12, 2013 12:29 PM (Pr6hk)

49 Evening shifts at police depts all over the country putting off duty on stand by... just guessing. Could be a tough night, esp when the rumors get going in the hood... and you know the rumors are flying like crazy

Posted by: Yip at October 12, 2013 12:29 PM (/jHWN)

50 oops wrong thread

Posted by: Yip at October 12, 2013 12:30 PM (/jHWN)

51 managed to stumble out of the Cuban Missile Crisis
Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at October 12, 2013 04:23 PM (OWjjx)

If Nixon had been elected in 1960, the Crisis would probably never even have happened.

Posted by: Jon (not the troll) at October 12, 2013 12:30 PM (2zFF9)

52 Seamus I suggest you conduct a test with a syringe of Speed on the writer of the book. Just saying. In the name of science to prove or disprove the assertion.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 12, 2013 12:30 PM (XrBCE)

53 oops wrong thread *** this is also an "open" thread

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 12, 2013 12:31 PM (DmNpO)

54 Yip its okay. In other words the gangs will be robbing Costco and Wal-Mart for food.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 12, 2013 12:31 PM (XrBCE)

55 NDH.. I know.. but Purps' was aimed mostly at the EBT 404.

Posted by: Yip at October 12, 2013 12:32 PM (/jHWN)

56 Mark Levin about to go on stage at Lonegan for Senate rally, livestream http://goo.gl/BM7NuU

Posted by: Jose at October 12, 2013 12:32 PM (zc/sw)

57 51 The hair extension and toenail polish portions of the GDP are taking a beating. And these days that's about half of it

Posted by: DAve at October 12, 2013 12:32 PM (b7yum)

58 Speaking of JFK, the History Channel duplicated the so-called magic bullet shot exactly.

An Australian company created two ballistic mannequins, of the type armies now use to test weapons; in the past they used live pigs. These were made of gelatine, resin bones, and chamois skin.

They hired a marksman (Oswald was a former marine and an expert shot) and put him in a crane at the right distance and angle. The mannequins were positioned where Kennedy and Connally sat in the limo, and the marksman fired.

Not only did the shot almost exactly duplicate the multiple wounds inflicted on Kennedy and Connally, the recovered bullet looked remarkably like the slightly flattened "magic bullet."

Very compelling argument that Oswald was the single shooter, which I'd concluded a long time ago.

Posted by: Tacky Adhesive at October 12, 2013 12:32 PM (81H5s)

59 To celebrate the EBT404, I think I will marinate a steak.

With locked doors and gun at the ready.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 12, 2013 12:33 PM (XrBCE)

60 I'm having a streak for dinner, Anna.

Posted by: CarolT at October 12, 2013 12:35 PM (z4WKX)

61 Picturing a methed up JFK running his hand up Helen Thomas' silky thigh.

Posted by: Jane D'oh, Tea Partier Extraordinaire at October 12, 2013 12:37 PM (lVPtV)

62 From the article: Jacobson plunged a needle Â“directly into KennedyÂ’s throat and pumped methamphetamine into his voice box.Â”

***

I call BS.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at October 12, 2013 04:29 PM (N/Sup)

That did sound more than a little crazy-pants to me, Seamus. I'm not a doctor, but what would be the point?

Posted by: Peaches at October 12, 2013 12:37 PM (8lmkt)

63 49 From the article: Jacobson plunged a needle Â“directly into KennedyÂ’s throat and pumped methamphetamine into his voice box.Â”

***

I call BS.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at October 12, 2013 04:29 PM (N/Sup)

Yep. Me, too.

Speed, sure, but not in throat (that is just weird). Also, look at meth photos today of the sores on face as the drug causes major itching and then they get staph infections and lose their teeth and age rapidly. This special meth of the 60's did not seem to do that (Marilyn Monroe on meth?).

Amphetamines, yes, but not the meth of today. This is purely speculation on my part as I make chili and swill house Bordeaux because it is Saturday (I think). Also! I am a RN and I have never seen or read of this meth to throat injection, therefore it cannot be true.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Redneck Queen of Tea Party, Eleventy District at October 12, 2013 12:37 PM (baL2B)

64
They shoved ObamaCare down our throats, and we're going to shove this election down their throats.

-Mark Levin

Posted by: Doctor Fish at October 12, 2013 12:41 PM (pJF+c)

65 BC putting a scare into Clemson.

Posted by: Lincolntf at October 12, 2013 12:41 PM (ZshNr)

66 29 .
Posted by: Lincolntf at October 12, 2013 04:17 PM (ZshNr)
That comment was supposed to go on the silent restaurant thread, Lincolntf.

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at October 12, 2013 12:47 PM (i4xvM)

67 Is this the same Kennedy who was pimping out a 14 year old girl for blowjobs and political favors? Nope. No drug problem here.

Posted by: Fritz at October 12, 2013 12:47 PM (UzPAd)

68 So many threads....and some of them have rules!

Posted by: Lincolntf at October 12, 2013 12:53 PM (ZshNr)

69 One of Nixon's first (of many) mistakes was not turning his Department of Justice on the Daley machine in 1969. Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at October 12, 2013 04:44 PM (OWjjx) Dick Nixon should have had the DOJ wipeout Daley machine, yourÂ’er right. WE might not be stuck in situation now if he had.

Posted by: CarolT at October 12, 2013 12:54 PM (z4WKX)

70 "Also, look at meth photos today of the sores on face as the drug causes major itching and then they get staph infections and lose their teeth and age rapidly. This special meth of the 60's did not seem to do that"

The meth of the '60s being prescribed by the Dr. Feelgood types was pharmaceutical grade, whereas the meth of today is cooked up under rather less than optimal and carefully monitored conditions, with goodness knows how many process contaminants in it.

Posted by: torquewrench at October 12, 2013 12:55 PM (gqT4g)

71 So pharmaceutical Meth is ok then... Yo!

Posted by: Yip at October 12, 2013 12:57 PM (/jHWN)

72 If the GOP had been John Paul Jones, the Bonhomme Richard would have been surrendered 20 minutes into the fight.

Posted by: T. at October 12, 2013 01:00 PM (h87jr)

73 Yip its okay. In other words the gangs will be robbing Costco and Wal-Mart for food.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 12, 2013 04:31 PM (XrBCE)

Mostly peaceful gangs shipped at Costco and Walmart today!

Posted by: Hrothgar at October 12, 2013 01:02 PM (XdnQT)

74 shopped

Posted by: Hrothgar at October 12, 2013 01:02 PM (XdnQT)

75 There's that new drug eating away users flesh. I forgot the name. But it is a mixture of some drug and kerosene. Who the fuck in their right mind would inject that crap?

Posted by: Jesse at October 12, 2013 01:05 PM (H2XQu)

76 80 Krokodile. Agreed as to not knowing what would possess someone to even try the stuff. I mean Russians yeah, they're already a little crazy, but Americans?

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, assault Hobbit at October 12, 2013 01:16 PM (Pexsc)

77 75 It's mostly the cut, of which there is often a lot

Posted by: DAve at October 12, 2013 01:19 PM (b7yum)

78 I was at a supermarket in Irvine yesterday that specializes in serving the local Persian community. They have a large section of ready-to-go food.

One of the items, I kid you not, that I saw: "Methi Chicken." Bet it was Walter White's favorite Persian dish. ;-)

I wish I had taken a picture.

Posted by: qdpsteve at October 12, 2013 01:21 PM (T/XcG)

79 So pharmaceutical Meth is ok then... Yo! That was the reason for Walter White's rocket-like ascent in the meth world in "Breaking Bad": A high quality high without too many side-effects except for, you know, addiction and psychosis.

Posted by: John Boehner, SuperGenius at October 12, 2013 01:34 PM (CRY7r)

80 Funny how many think JFK was a great president. But not as bad as those who think Lincoln was. And it's only a coincidence that both those groups think ubama is a great one too, right?

Posted by: EROWMER at October 12, 2013 01:35 PM (OONaw)

From the UK Mail Online via @ kshaidle:

Revealed: How Pentagon FAKED repatriation of fallen soldiers for years with phony ceremonies, decommissioned planes and bodies that had spent months in labs

http://tinyurl.com/l5cmbtk

Thought some here might be interested. And if it's already been talked about: Sorry about that Chief.

Posted by: Joethefatman™ (@joethefatman1) at October 12, 2013 01:36 PM (MnSla)

82 I actually knew a kid whose last name was Meth. Told him he should name his daughter Crystal.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 12, 2013 01:38 PM (WjLUf)

The liberal machine and its media sycophants have convinced the public that Kennedy was indeed one of the greats. Ask a Kennedy fan to come up with anything JFK ever accomplished and they'll tell you something about the Cuban Missle Crisis and how he stood down Kruschev. What actually happened was that Kennedy traded off Turkey's missle system for that of Fidel's, much to the chagrin of the Turks (see Donald Kagan's "On the Origins of War.) The Bay of Pigs was more typically Kennedy.

What we have here is the making of a lazy girl-watching senator morphed into a major statesman, sold in the words of old man Joe "like a box of corn flakes."

Come to think of it, I can't come up with a single Kennedy that ever was worth a shit.

Posted by: Libra at October 12, 2013 05:58 PM (GblmV)

84 As was said earlier, we probably won't know the half of went on with Kennedy. Assassination aside, JFK was a sex fiend and drug addict, who depended on Daddy's money, corrupt political machines, and the criminal underworld for his electoral politics career. His policy record was a mess and a Kennedy second term would almost certainly have resulted in massive personal scandal and policy disaster.

Posted by: Robert_Paulson at October 12, 2013 08:03 PM (oE+am)

85 #83 Methi is also known as fenugreek. Great with chicken and my kiddos love it. I'll admit my boys frequently strip off their clothes and run shrieking down the hall, but that's mostly because they're five years old.

Posted by: Banglabou at October 13, 2013 06:53 AM (J/S+8)

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