August 22, 2013
— Ace Shaking my head.
The military -- I don't jump at the chance of faulting the military, but, like any operation, it's filled with incompetence -- decided this guy was a Solid Citizen posing little-to-no security risk and could and should be trusted with our top secret military and diplomatic communications.
One day after being sentenced to 35 years in prison for the largest leak of classified documents in U.S. history, the Army private the world knows as Bradley Manning issued a statement about who she really is. "As I transition into this next phase of my life, I want everyone to know the real me. I am Chelsea Manning. I am a female," Manning wrote in a statement read on the Today show. "Given the way that I feel, and have felt since childhood, I want to begin hormone therapy as soon as possible. I hope that you will support me in this transition. I also request that, starting today, you refer to me by my new name and use the feminine pronoun (except in official mail to the confinement facility)."The letter is signed Chelsea E. Manning, and thanks supporters for raising awareness of her case.
Manning is likely to serve her time at Fort Leavenworth, which doesn't offer hormone therapy or sex-reassignment surgery to prisoners, as reported by Courthouse News. David Coombs, Manning's lawyer, was not sure if Fort Leavenworth would offer Manning hormone therapy, though he said on Today that he was "hoping" the prison "would do the right thing."
"If Fort Leavenworth does not, then I'm going to do everything in my power to make sure they are forced to do so," Coombs said, according to the Today website. It's not clear whether Manning will be imprisoned in the male or female population. In U.S. prisons in general, transgender inmates are typically classified by their officially assigned gender, rather than the gender with which they identify.
Below, a picture that's either of Chelsea Manning or Claire Danes in the upcoming season of Homeland.
[Update - Andy] Via @CuffyMeh
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Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at August 22, 2013 07:58 AM (/Crba)
Posted by: d_fitz at August 22, 2013 07:59 AM (enmeq)
Posted by: Ken Royall at August 22, 2013 07:59 AM (h+2SD)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Your Ad Here! at August 22, 2013 11:58 AM (zUi7I)
Concur.... when you self segregate just so you can be in a Discriminated Minority? You set yourself up for a perpetual battle against an imaginary opponent.... which you cannot win as there IS no discrimination except what is in your head....
But who would have thought... that the T in LGBT stood for TRAITOR...
Posted by: Romeo13 at August 22, 2013 08:00 AM (lZBBB)
Posted by: Ray Van Dune at August 22, 2013 08:00 AM (Bn9/M)
Is this twit in solitary or with the rest of the population?
Is this a play to insure solitary so his gentle self won't be potentially harmed?
Posted by: ChristyBlinky at August 22, 2013 08:00 AM (baL2B)
I've got a sick feeling that the taxpayers are going to get stuck with the bill for converting this punk from a suicidal drag queen into a suicidal "woman".
I'll never understand why this punk didn't face a firing squad. It would have been the merciful thing.
Posted by: rickinstl at August 22, 2013 08:01 AM (0AEWQ)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 22, 2013 08:01 AM (V1ZIU)
Posted by: PAgirlinNC at August 22, 2013 08:01 AM (LMKjz)
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at August 22, 2013 08:01 AM (s7BgK)
Posted by: Where're my ping pong balls at August 22, 2013 08:01 AM (YxaXw)
Posted by: mitch ryder at August 22, 2013 08:01 AM (3GuQx)
Posted by: ChrisValentine at August 22, 2013 08:02 AM (a6AMI)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 22, 2013 08:02 AM (9Xc5j)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at August 22, 2013 08:02 AM (/Crba)
Going along with dysfunction is not compassionate treatment of someone with a mental illness.
Posted by: Napoleon at August 22, 2013 08:03 AM (FdjiO)
Posted by: Gary Snodgrass at August 22, 2013 08:03 AM (IrbU4)
Posted by: Tamerlan Tsarnaev at August 22, 2013 08:03 AM (ukNFU)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 22, 2013 08:04 AM (9Xc5j)
Posted by: McAdams at August 22, 2013 08:04 AM (Iofmy)
Posted by: blaster at August 22, 2013 08:04 AM (W6bkf)
Look, I don't want to be a dick and "not that there's anything wrong with that" blah-blah-blah, but let's stipulate a few things...
1. The military does important work for the nation.
2. The military has secrets.
3. Bad guys want to get those secrets so they can keep our military from succeeding at its missions.
4. Bad guys throughout history have used the sexual peccadilloes of the other side's people to gain access to secrets through blackmail.
How exactly then does someone with the obviously "confused" sexuality of Bradley Manning get in a position to gain possession of important classified information? I mean... don't we vett our guys at all anymore?
Fail.
Posted by: The Regular Guy at August 22, 2013 08:04 AM (qHCyt)
***
Heteronormative assholes.
Posted by: WalrusRex at August 22, 2013 08:04 AM (Hx5uv)
Posted by: Lemmenkainen, Freelance Warlord at August 22, 2013 08:04 AM (ZWvOb)
Posted by: The Jackhole at August 22, 2013 08:04 AM (nTgAI)
Posted by: Highsmith at August 22, 2013 08:04 AM (uwaMU)
G-d am I sick of this kind of crap.
Posted by: cranky-d at August 22, 2013 08:05 AM (tGveo)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 22, 2013 08:05 AM (gTN+E)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Your Ad Here! at August 22, 2013 08:05 AM (zUi7I)
Posted by: blaster at August 22, 2013 08:05 AM (W6bkf)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 22, 2013 08:05 AM (9Xc5j)
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You have a Y chromosome, you are a male.
Reality doesn't care what you "think".
Posted by: Nighthawk at August 22, 2013 08:06 AM (OtQXp)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at August 22, 2013 08:06 AM (/Crba)
Posted by: Beagle at August 22, 2013 08:06 AM (Z5GWq)
Posted by: Captain Hate on an iPhone at August 22, 2013 08:06 AM (OawMi)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 22, 2013 08:07 AM (UWXeN)
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at August 22, 2013 08:07 AM (QF8uk)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 22, 2013 08:07 AM (9Xc5j)
I had a professor once that proposed a new pronoun for the transgendered - take the "s" from she, the "h" from he, and end it with "it." Voila! Gender-neutral pronoun!
Posted by: Grey Fox at August 22, 2013 08:08 AM (210xL)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 22, 2013 08:08 AM (xDfWx)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Your Ad Here! at August 22, 2013 08:08 AM (zUi7I)
Posted by: Captain Hate on an iPhone at August 22, 2013 08:08 AM (OawMi)
Posted by: BurtTC at August 22, 2013 08:08 AM (TOk1P)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at August 22, 2013 08:08 AM (/Crba)
Posted by: JackStraw at August 22, 2013 08:09 AM (g1DWB)
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at August 22, 2013 08:09 AM (QF8uk)
Question: How many hours of steady drinking at a bar would it take before "Chelsea" started looking good?
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at August 22, 2013 08:09 AM (f9c2L)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 22, 2013 08:09 AM (9Xc5j)
Posted by: wiserbud at August 22, 2013 08:09 AM (WCe8r)
Posted by: X at August 22, 2013 08:10 AM (KHo8t)
Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at August 22, 2013 08:10 AM (UR1wn)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 22, 2013 08:10 AM (IXrOn)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 22, 2013 08:10 AM (9Xc5j)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at August 22, 2013 08:10 AM (/Crba)
44 -
Ironically, I think he would have a much easier time in the male genpop, dressed up like a girl, then he would with the females.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 22, 2013 08:10 AM (TOk1P)
Posted by: Captain Hate on an iPhone at August 22, 2013 08:10 AM (OawMi)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Your Ad Here! at August 22, 2013 08:11 AM (zUi7I)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 22, 2013 08:11 AM (gTN+E)
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Posted by: The Regular Guy at August 22, 2013 12:04 PM (qHCyt)
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Short answer?
No.
Posted by: Nighthawk at August 22, 2013 08:11 AM (OtQXp)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 22, 2013 08:11 AM (/PCJa)
As far as Poor Little Chelsea, I'm down with letting it wear its wig for hanging.
The military used to have standards commensurate with its mission. Not now.
Posted by: MrScribbler at August 22, 2013 08:12 AM (kaGpp)
Posted by: Bob Filner, Graduate, Sensitivity Training Centers of Cleveland at August 22, 2013 08:12 AM (8ZskC)
Ironically, I think he would have a much easier time in the male genpop, dressed up like a girl, then he would with the females.
The trick would be to be to "marry" a dominant male, I guess....
Posted by: Grey Fox at August 22, 2013 08:12 AM (210xL)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 22, 2013 08:12 AM (/PCJa)
Posted by: Baldy at August 22, 2013 08:12 AM (tyDFN)
Does the military to pysch evals anymore? I was in decades ago USAF ( ya stop giggling) anyway , I was an Aircraft Maint spec, worked on Tankers and Bombers B52. We had to be HRP Qual ( human reliability program ) had to psych evals, the Rorschach test was always done every few months. I thought they were retarded then cause of the blots looked like well....
So I am guessing if manning was a nut like he claims how did he pass the evals? Was he given evals? if he was then they obviously dont work. Or he is playing for sympathy to get out early.
Posted by: Coldwarrior57 at August 22, 2013 08:12 AM (rO5kl)
Posted by: sweet...ish at August 22, 2013 08:12 AM (bj+Nc)
Posted by: Country Singer at August 22, 2013 08:13 AM (L8r/r)
Posted by: dillhole12 at August 22, 2013 08:13 AM (uURnG)
One time TDY SouthCom at Howard the story goes. In the NCO club Friday night.. Everyone is getting their groove on. And then people start to notice the 6ft 2in 'woman' also getting down on the dance floor. People at the table went 'hhhmmm' and decided that was no Sheila.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 22, 2013 08:13 AM (xDfWx)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at August 22, 2013 08:13 AM (0HooB)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at August 22, 2013 08:14 AM (/Crba)
Posted by: Penfold at August 22, 2013 08:14 AM (Fbt5B)
Posted by: nip at August 22, 2013 08:14 AM (jI23+)
66 -
Exactly. The Army cross-dressers tend to stand out, unlike the sea men.
And he's not a Cubs fan either, so he's got that going for him. Which is nice.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 22, 2013 08:14 AM (TOk1P)
What official makes gender assignments? Who funds this shadowy Bureau of Gender Assignment?
/Perhaps "gender at birth" or, if retaining imagery of "assignment" is truly important, "naturally assigned" would work better.
Posted by: Jazz at August 22, 2013 08:14 AM (roO4n)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 22, 2013 08:14 AM (/PCJa)
Posted by: joncelli at August 22, 2013 08:14 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 22, 2013 08:14 AM (9Xc5j)
Posted by: [/i][/b][/s]akula51 at August 22, 2013 08:15 AM (4p5/2)
Seriously, look at a picture of the guy. If he weighs a buck thirty I'll eat ace's hair.
He looks like Kermit the Frog come to life . . .
if he bulks up a bit.
Posted by: bonhomme at August 22, 2013 08:15 AM (WhJf8)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at August 22, 2013 08:15 AM (/Crba)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 22, 2013 08:16 AM (8ZskC)
They're suggesting that one can pick which gender they are on a whim, with the rest of society expected to accept their choice without question.
If someone goes all out with a sex change, hormone treatment, etc, then fine- I'll play along and refer to him/her/it with the pronoun fitting their new appearance.
But if a dude wakes up one day, puts on a wig and makeup and declares he's now a woman? No. He's just a man in drag.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at August 22, 2013 08:16 AM (SY2Kh)
Re-imagined oubliette.
Posted by: bonhomme at August 22, 2013 08:16 AM (WhJf8)
Posted by: nraendowment at August 22, 2013 08:16 AM (Msv+6)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 22, 2013 08:17 AM (xDfWx)
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, The Colossus of Independence at August 22, 2013 08:17 AM (fwARV)
Posted by: BlueStateRebel at August 22, 2013 08:17 AM (7ObY1)
I tried to sabotage the enlistment of a psychiatric patient who's a huge fan of Josef Stalin and said we need mass executions and death camps here. His mother made him a copy of Stalin's trademark jacket, which he wore to school with authentic Soviet army boots. For his high school graduation, he wore a hammer-and-sickle tie pin.
He told me he wanted to join the infantry so he could kill people, and he said he didn't differentiate between combatants and noncombatants. Killing children in Afghanistan wouldn't bother him, since the only good Muslim is a dead Muslim. He loves the Russian Spetsnaz because they don't care how many hostages they kill in their "rescues."
Finally, he said he'd devote his life to helping the Russians develop weapons to defeat American weapons.
After promising me anonymity, the recruiters called his parents the same day and told them what I'd said, resulting in the kid's father threatening to murder me. When I went back to confront the recruiters, they got hostile and said they knew army material the second it walked in the door, so I had no business telling them their job.
The kid in question lied on his application form about his psychiatric treatment, but I was told by another soldier that the recruiters passed the kid through as a "fuck you" to me. Also, the kid is a member of a protected ethnic class.
They put him in the Chemical Corps. He's been trained in nuclear, chemical, biological, and radiological weapons. To get him through the training, they assigned him two "battle buddies." It's a new system that allows the army to keep incompetent or crazy soldiers who would've been discharged in earlier years.
I expect we'll be hearing about him soon.
Posted by: Tacky Adhesive at August 22, 2013 08:17 AM (TJw7K)
Posted by: wiserbud at August 22, 2013 08:17 AM (WCe8r)
84 Does the military to pysch evals anymore?
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I don't think they've taken them seriously in years.
Three words for you - Major Nidal Hasan.
Fuck. I haven't done one since the last one I did on Major Nelson. I gave him a less than perfect score and I'll be damned if I didn't turn into a chimp. I swear it!
Posted by: Col. Bellows at August 22, 2013 08:17 AM (t06LC)
Posted by: MoeRon at August 22, 2013 08:17 AM (2Q3U/)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 22, 2013 08:17 AM (IXrOn)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 22, 2013 08:17 AM (gTN+E)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at August 22, 2013 08:18 AM (/Crba)
Posted by: TanarUr at August 22, 2013 08:18 AM (S4N/h)
Posted by: panzernashorn at August 22, 2013 08:18 AM (MhA4j)
Posted by: no good deed at August 22, 2013 08:18 AM (WmLrU)
He wanted to know why I have not donated lately to the RNC,and he would triple my donation!! I tried to write back but, of course, it was a failure as I knew it would be. But this was my response and I am going to write all of my elected representatives, the crap-weasels (I am talking to you, Marco):
"Thanks so much for this personal email!
I have no intention of donating to the RNC until...until you, as Speaker of the House and the majority branch of government for the GOP, stand up to Obamacare, blanket amnesty without protecting the borders, the "non-scandals" of the Benghazi terrorist attack, Fast and Furious, NSA, IRS, name your scandal, etc.
You can make a difference. When I see this I will donate. It is called courage as well as doing the job you were elected to do, which I see little of by our GOP in DC."
I am biding my time before my letters and phone calls when the twits return to DC. I also want to start a campaign to elect Allen West as governor of Florida to cause heads to splode.
Posted by: ChristyBlinky at August 22, 2013 08:19 AM (baL2B)
Posted by: rickb223 at August 22, 2013 08:19 AM (b1/nQ)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at August 22, 2013 08:19 AM (/Crba)
Fully 30 percent of new recruits in the US military fail to complete their enlistments. That means that one in three are discharged early, generally due to incompetence or psychiatric reasons.
The system is broken.
Posted by: Tacky Adhesive at August 22, 2013 08:20 AM (TJw7K)
Posted by: Billy Bob, Psuedo Intelectual at August 22, 2013 08:20 AM (wR+pz)
96 -
Never before in the history of AoSHQ has a comment been more deserving of a rimshot than this!
Posted by: BurtTC at August 22, 2013 08:20 AM (TOk1P)
Posted by: TenthJustice at August 22, 2013 08:20 AM (qB8lN)
He demands the "right" to change his gender at the TAXPAYER's expense, even though he is a convicted traitor. Yet we now have a movement to ban parents from obtaining therapy, AT THEIR OWN EXPENSE, to try to convert their child from gay to straight.
Yeah, that all makes sense......
Posted by: Tex Lovera at August 22, 2013 08:20 AM (wtvvX)
Posted by: JackStraw at August 22, 2013 08:20 AM (g1DWB)
Posted by: unf-ing-believable at August 22, 2013 08:20 AM (3w8O+)
Posted by: The Regular Guy at August 22, 2013 12:04 PM (qHCyt)
Because discrimination.
Do you know what a military without discrimination looks like?
"Enemy combatant? Civilian? Who cares, just shoot them all."
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at August 22, 2013 08:21 AM (v3pYe)
"Manning is likely to serve her time at Fort Leavenworth, which doesn't offer hormone therapy or sex-reassignment surgery to prisoners, as reported by Courthouse News. David Coombs, Manning's lawyer, was not sure if Fort Leavenworth would offer Manning hormone therapy, though he said on Today that he was "hoping" the prison "would do the right thing."
Well they may not offer hormone therapy there, but some of the other prisoners will certainly give Chelsea Whoremoan threapy.
Posted by: maddogg at August 22, 2013 08:21 AM (xWW96)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 22, 2013 08:21 AM (8ZskC)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 22, 2013 08:21 AM (9Xc5j)
@120
I'd say that about the entire US at this point. Hell, I'd say that about all of western civ at this point.
Its a crisis of confidence. As a civilization, we are careening towards a nervous breakdown.
Posted by: Col. Bellows at August 22, 2013 08:22 AM (t06LC)
Posted by: MoeRon at August 22, 2013 08:22 AM (2Q3U/)
Posted by: [/i][/b][/s]akula51 at August 22, 2013 08:22 AM (4p5/2)
Bradley Bradley if you are going to cross-play you simply must do it right. I know you wanted to look like Angel from Big O but that wig is simply wrong, its not long enough for one thing and the part is not right. Plus you must get contacts so your eye color matches that of Angel's.
- a cosplay elitist
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 22, 2013 08:22 AM (xDfWx)
Posted by: polynikes at August 22, 2013 08:22 AM (m2CN7)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at August 22, 2013 12:16 PM (SY2Kh)
And all that on the Taxpayer's dime.
You must tolerate Them, but They don't have to tolerate You.
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at August 22, 2013 08:23 AM (oY6Yp)
Posted by: AmishDude at August 22, 2013 08:23 AM (T0NGe)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 22, 2013 08:23 AM (gTN+E)
Posted by: Pound Town at August 22, 2013 08:24 AM (vg8iE)
True as far as it goes, but it goes further. The current toleration argument is that once mere homosexuality is no longer a source of public humiliation, the blackmail opportunities will fade.
People who really, really don't like homosexuals say that there is something more than that, an underlying attitude of sly defiance ("Gay" after all is a shortened form of the Victorian "Gay Deceiver") that makes all such habitues a poor security risk, at the least. Now, some think this is just a by-blow of having to bo about on the down-low; others say it's in how you get converted, and there are those who say you go gay because of that character flaw. And the Pope says, Who am I to judge?" which is kind of a hell of a thing for a Pope.
I would say I'm torn on this, but we ain't goin there. I do strongly feel that among young gays of today there is a great deal of rah-rah joinerism, a veneer of attitude largely unconnected to basic urges or biological principles. IMO about 99 of 100 of recent recruits to The Cause are mad at Mom'n'Dad, and little else. This may make them little different from many young people of several persuasions, but it certainly does make them poor security risks.
Posted by: comatus at August 22, 2013 08:24 AM (JNUY4)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at August 22, 2013 08:24 AM (/Crba)
1) Male
2) Female
3) Male transformed from Female
4) Female transformed from Male
5) Other
True
Posted by: Steven W. at August 22, 2013 08:24 AM (RRm7u)
Posted by: Captain Hate on an iPhone at August 22, 2013 08:24 AM (OawMi)
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at August 22, 2013 12:09 PM (f9c2L)
It usually takes me about three.
Posted by: Sandra Fluke at August 22, 2013 08:25 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 22, 2013 08:25 AM (/PCJa)
Posted by: rickb223 at August 22, 2013 08:25 AM (b1/nQ)
Posted by: Baldy at August 22, 2013 08:25 AM (tyDFN)
Is J Random Fiscon a sock doing sarcasm or is he a serious poster because this is the kind of cultural crap that directly effects the fiscal conservatism that is desired.
Posted by: polynikes at August 22, 2013 08:25 AM (m2CN7)
Posted by: WalrusRex at August 22, 2013 08:26 AM (Hx5uv)
No. What they're doing--according to the photos I've seen--is giving him a special "retard" uniform so that the instructors can keep an eye on him.
You wondered why the military kept Major Hasan after he became an open supporter of al Qaeda? Well, the army is doing everything in its power to keep this mental patient in its ranks to "preserve their diversity."
He isn't being allowed to be alone with his hazardous materials, but he's been trained to use them and he has access to them.
It's a completely perverse guarantee that something horrible will happen, and there's no stopping it. My conversations with the recruiters convinced me that the rot is systemic now. It was very sad, because I used to be an unconditional supporter of the armed forces.
Now I realize it's just another left-leaning, PC bureaucracy.
Posted by: Tacky Adhesive at August 22, 2013 08:26 AM (TJw7K)
Posted by: Bluedog803 at August 22, 2013 08:26 AM (yUS5D)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at August 22, 2013 08:26 AM (/Crba)
Reality doesn't care what you "think".
I read an article about how the Olympics were having to deal with all the "edge" cases on this. In short, it's not so simple. There are XXY people, there are people who are XY, but due to certain types of genetic diseases are really XX.
They weren't even taking into account all the "preferences", it was only a purely scientific categorization attempt.
What they came up with was a person's natural "unenhanced" testosterone level. If you take all the people in the world and looked at their testosterone level, there is a stratification effect. Two distinct clouds of levels. So if you're in one cloud, you compete with the women. Another cloud and you compete with the men. This is unenhanced of course. If you were taking hormones you are disqualified, period.
Posted by: bonhomme at August 22, 2013 08:26 AM (WhJf8)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at August 22, 2013 08:27 AM (QDk4A)
Suggested Headline for Ace's next post:
FILNER QUITS CONGRESS, SEEKS OPPORTUNITY FOR MORE "HANDS ON" CONTACT WITH HIS CONSTITUENTS
Posted by: BurtTC at August 22, 2013 08:27 AM (TOk1P)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at August 22, 2013 08:28 AM (/Crba)
Posted by: Cato at August 22, 2013 08:28 AM (j3id/)
Posted by: comatus at August 22, 2013 12:24 PM (JNUY4)
Yeah.... now if someone 'outs' you in the Military.... you're on the promotion Fast Track...
Posted by: Romeo13 at August 22, 2013 08:28 AM (lZBBB)
Transgender this child immediately.
Posted by: Beer Summit and a Scapel Barry at August 22, 2013 08:28 AM (6xhLc)
Posted by: Vote Lord Humungus 2016 at August 22, 2013 08:28 AM (HEa5q)
"Fully 30 percent of new recruits in the US military fail to complete their enlistments. That means that one in three are discharged early, generally due to incompetence or psychiatric reasons."
I'm sorry. God knows I wouldn't write anything that would be taken as insensitive or argumentative, but this is total bullshit.
If you've got a link, post it. I'll apologize if it's anywhere near true.
Posted by: jwest at August 22, 2013 08:28 AM (u2a4R)
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at August 22, 2013 08:29 AM (r+7wo)
Posted by: YIKES! at August 22, 2013 08:29 AM (mETGQ)
Posted by: mugiwara at August 22, 2013 08:29 AM (D5hxK)
Posted by: maddogg at August 22, 2013 08:29 AM (xWW96)
Posted by: Brandon in Baton Rouge at August 22, 2013 12:24 PM (/Crba)
Anywhere but San Diego and he would still be golden. San Diego is still considered a conservative area in CA.
Posted by: polynikes at August 22, 2013 08:29 AM (m2CN7)
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at August 22, 2013 08:30 AM (r+7wo)
Posted by: Andrew at August 22, 2013 08:31 AM (HS3dy)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at August 22, 2013 08:31 AM (/Crba)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 22, 2013 08:31 AM (xDfWx)
I'm sorry. God knows I wouldn't write anything that would be taken as insensitive or argumentative, but this is total bullshit.
If you've got a link, post it. I'll apologize if it's anywhere near true.>>>>>
My figure was out of date. It's up to 40 percent now.
"However, the military is not for everyone. Fully 40 percent of recruits who enlist in the military today will not complete their full term of service. While many discharges will be for reasons beyond the recruit's control, such as medical problems that develop after joining the military, as a First Sergeant for 11 years, I found that a significant number of the involuntary discharges we imposed on first-term recruits was because they simply stopped trying -- they discovered that the military wasn't what they thought it was going to be."
http://usmilitary.about.com/cs/joiningup/a/recruiter.htm
Posted by: Tacky Adhesive at August 22, 2013 08:31 AM (TJw7K)
The "New" US Army
1.) Cross-dressers are cool, especially in highly sensitive Intelligence positions
2.) Jihadis can engage in "workplace violence" and get away with it
3.) Catholics and Evangelists are considered to be "extremists".
4.) Women can join Combat Arms due to standards and training, that were designed to produce combat-soldiers who could win wars, being eviscerated.......
Posted by: MtTB at August 22, 2013 08:32 AM (8E9QA)
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at August 22, 2013 08:32 AM (r+7wo)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at August 22, 2013 08:32 AM (/Crba)
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Posted by: soothsayer at August 22, 2013 08:34 AM (1/DXq)
Posted by: L, elle at August 22, 2013 08:34 AM (0PiQ4)
"Looks like a dude in a wig with poorly applied eyeliner." - mugiwara at August 22, 2013 12:29 PM
Come to think of it, is (s)he going for the Veronica Lake look?
That's gonna ruin a lot of old movies for me, PERMANENTLY......
Posted by: MtTB at August 22, 2013 08:34 AM (8E9QA)
Posted by: maddogg
Because he looks like a sideshow freak. Seriously look at him.
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at August 22, 2013 08:35 AM (hSwFv)
Ahhh, progressivism.
Posted by: akula51 at August 22, 2013 12:22 PM (4p5/2)
Tinfoil Hat - Status ON
Its being done on purpose. The "Right".... always had an ace in the hole with the military as the backstop against any un-constitutional power grab because it was predominantly populated by folks who took their oath seriously.
Fill the ranks with like minded statists???? You do the math.
Tin Foil Hat - Staus OFF
Posted by: fixerupper at August 22, 2013 08:35 AM (nELVU)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 22, 2013 08:35 AM (IXrOn)
Rage stroke time.
Posted by: Lizzy at August 22, 2013 08:35 AM (UrtRh)
Posted by: soothsayer at August 22, 2013 08:35 AM (1/DXq)
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Posted by: georgeofthedesert at August 22, 2013 08:36 AM (Eq2MX)
Posted by: polynikes at August 22, 2013 08:36 AM (m2CN7)
Insty had a link yesterday to a WaPo piece in which it was claimed that the NSA doesn't even know what all Snowden took because there are no audit trails. What the hell? I most certainly hope that information is wrong because that's just insane.
Oh. Hey. Speaking of conspiracy theories, what if Manning and Snowden are in on it and are actually false fronts so that our enemies think we're bumbling incompetents but it's all fake stuff to trick them? Turtles, man, turtles.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at August 22, 2013 08:36 AM (Gk3SS)
"If Fort Leavenworth does not, then I'm going to do everything in my power to make sure they are forced to do so,... as long as the taxpayers are footing the legal bills I submit. Because we all know this freakshow of a client of mine wont"
I may have added to the quote, but you know that was what he was thinking.
Posted by: AndrewsDad at August 22, 2013 08:36 AM (C2//T)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 22, 2013 08:37 AM (9Xc5j)
175 -
You mean jwest was totally wrong about something, and he was a complete dickwad in the process?
That's odd.
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Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at August 22, 2013 12:32 PM (r+7wo)
As I am a queen I authorize this, Cleo.
Posted by: ChristyBlinky at August 22, 2013 08:37 AM (baL2B)
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Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 22, 2013 08:38 AM (xDfWx)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 22, 2013 08:38 AM (gTN+E)
Posted by: baldilocks at August 22, 2013 12:37 PM (Tnlh/)
Okay that made me gag without the photos.
Posted by: polynikes at August 22, 2013 08:39 AM (m2CN7)
Posted by: Countrysquire, back just for this comment at August 22, 2013 08:39 AM (LSJmV)
I now insist on being called Cleopatra as I feel deep inside that I am really a powerful queen trapped in a middle class body.
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at August 22, 2013 12:32 PM (r+7wo)
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How YOU doin.....??
Posted by: Mark Antony - trapped inside fixeruppers body at August 22, 2013 08:39 AM (nELVU)
Posted by: [/i][/b][/s]akula51 at August 22, 2013 08:39 AM (4p5/2)
It broke my heart to hear this pot-bellied recruiter tell me that I didn't know my own relative, a kid I held in my arms when he was a baby. This fat bastard felt nothing but contempt for me because I wanted to spare my relative and our nation unavoidable catastrophe.
Though not a vet, I always loved the armed forces. The experience with my relative has left me deeply disillusioned. At least three levels of the recruiting apparatus colluded to allow a dangerous psychiatric patient to enlist, and then they gave him one of the hardest jobs in the army.
All because a civilian dared to tell them that the kid wasn't fit for service.
Posted by: Tacky Adhesive at August 22, 2013 08:39 AM (TJw7K)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/s][/u][/b] at August 22, 2013 08:39 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at August 22, 2013 08:40 AM (HDgX3)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 22, 2013 08:40 AM (IXrOn)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 22, 2013 08:41 AM (gTN+E)
"My figure was out of date. It's up to 40 percent now."
I read the linked material and apparently it's right. You have my unqualified apology for doubting you.
It's unimaginable that 40% of the people the military trains don't complete their term of service. It's also odd that that many leave with what has to less than honorable discharges.
Posted by: jwest at August 22, 2013 08:41 AM (u2a4R)
Posted by: rickb223 at August 22, 2013 08:42 AM (b1/nQ)
I now insist on being called Cleopatra as I feel deep inside that I am really a powerful queen trapped in a middle class body.
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at August 22, 2013 12:32 PM (r+7wo)
So long as you swear allegiance to Her Imperial Majesty AtC and allow Chique d'Afriqueland to be added to Alextopia, you should be fine, Your Highness.
Posted by: Sandra Fluke at August 22, 2013 08:42 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: West at August 22, 2013 08:42 AM (1Rgee)
May I call you Chelsea? Grrl seriously work on your make up and presentation. Those eyebrows are like caterpillars trying to mate. Like seriously tweak them. And the raccoon is so not you. You need intervention like seriously. Plus let a stylist work on that mop you call hair, its gagalicious right now.
-- a Valley Girl
http://youtu.be/o-Zo4AVL7AE
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 22, 2013 08:42 AM (xDfWx)
Posted by: baldilocks at August 22, 2013 08:43 AM (Tnlh/)
I can't wait to pay for her therapy and sex reassignment surgery!!
I hope the girls at Guantanamo get the same consideration!!
Yayyyyyyyy!
Posted by: Uncle Jefe at August 22, 2013 08:43 AM (25KoS)
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Posted by: caustic at August 22, 2013 08:44 AM (/b8+5)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 22, 2013 08:44 AM (9Xc5j)
Or so I've heard
Posted by: mugiwara at August 22, 2013 08:44 AM (D5hxK)
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Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 22, 2013 08:45 AM (IXrOn)
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Posted by: rickb223 at August 22, 2013 12:43 PM (b1/nQ)
But they still squawk "mine, mine, mine" just like the seagulls.
Posted by: sweet...ish at August 22, 2013 08:45 AM (bj+Nc)
I researched it for an entire year. The figures are accurate. For a decade it was 30 percent. Here's the reason it's now 40 percent.
http://tinyurl.com/k2kbp5l
Posted by: Tacky Adhesive at August 22, 2013 08:45 AM (TJw7K)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at August 22, 2013 08:45 AM (/PCJa)
Posted by: LizLem at August 22, 2013 08:46 AM (w/Ebk)
Posted by: JackStraw at August 22, 2013 08:46 AM (g1DWB)
ANYONE that wants to have a surgeon play ginsu chef with the Family Jewels, let's just say all their dogs aint barking. They don't need a surgeon, they need a shrink. And FOR DAMNED SURE should be kept from any position that requires a security clearance.
Posted by: Scont at August 22, 2013 08:46 AM (pCuII)
Can anyone with a straight face really say that a man that wants to be changed into a woman is not going to have a million other mental issues besides this?
They're fucking crazy, and their problem is not the organ they have between their legs.
Posted by: McAdams at August 22, 2013 08:46 AM (Iofmy)
Posted by: Tuco at August 22, 2013 08:47 AM (Pr6hk)
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at August 22, 2013 08:47 AM (r+7wo)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFBOQzSk14c
Is it tragedy then farce, or farce, and then tragedy? Hard to remember.
Posted by: This is where we came in at August 22, 2013 08:47 AM (u3N3z)
Hey, I don't care what gender Chelsea Manning decides to be, so long s/he is not raising my taxes of forcing me to buy health insurance.
Neither should you, you Mike Huckabee wannabes!
Posted by: J. Random FisCon at August 22, 2013 08:47 AM (YYJjz)
Multi-media demonstration are certainly welcome, extra points and get out of barrel free card for scratch and sniff technology.
This will also provide as an excellent pallet cleanser from Chelsea "Spears"
Posted by: dananjcon at August 22, 2013 08:47 AM (jvd3N)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 22, 2013 08:48 AM (9Xc5j)
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at August 22, 2013 12:47 PM (r+7wo)
Like an Egyptian?
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at August 22, 2013 08:48 AM (v3pYe)
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Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at August 22, 2013 08:49 AM (r+7wo)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 22, 2013 08:50 AM (IXrOn)
Fear of the American military has been officially struck in our hearts. ha ha
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Posted by: caustic at August 22, 2013 08:52 AM (/b8+5)
It's unimaginable that 40% of the people the military trains don't complete their term of service. It's also odd that that many leave with what has to less than honorable discharges.>>>>>
It gives me no pleasure to talk about this, but as patriotic Americans who want the best for our country, you should know the truth.
I tried to keep a dangerous psychiatric patient out of the army, and this made recruiters so angry that they greased the skids for him and then put him in the Chemical Corps. They sneered at me, belittled me, but even worse refused to do a background check on him. All they had to do was look at his high school records to see that he was excused from certain activities because of his mental illness, and he'd taken medication that is an automatic, permanent disqualifier for service.
Because they were angry at me, they colluded in falsifying his enlistment application. They not only took him in, they then gave him the keys to the mental-patient kingdom by putting him in the Chemical Corps.
He hates America, hates Americans, wants to kill people in huge numbers, and wants to see the US defeated in combat.
Now he's trained in the manufacture and use of WMD.
Posted by: Tacky Adhesive at August 22, 2013 08:53 AM (TJw7K)
Posted by: tommylotto at August 22, 2013 08:54 AM (A3a8d)
Posted by: Chicago Vota at August 22, 2013 08:54 AM (AQpnq)
Posted by: no good deed at August 22, 2013 08:55 AM (WmLrU)
Posted by: Carlos Dangerfield at August 22, 2013 08:56 AM (m0le6)
Hi, caustic, girlfriend! The cat's haven't eaten you yet I see.
Posted by: chelsea manning, totes at August 22, 2013 08:56 AM (OsGDg)
No. It's about involuntary early separation.
Posted by: Tacky Adhesive at August 22, 2013 08:56 AM (TJw7K)
Bradley ... er ... Chelsea... has three years to lay the foundation for GLBTQ harassment and discrimination, maybe with some disability claims to spice things up. The GLBTQ community will make this guy ...er ... gal ... er ... person ... a cause celebre of the first magnitude. Obama's going to have no choice but to pardon or at least commute.
The new generation of espionage. We're in awe.
Posted by: Pollard, Ames, Hanssen at August 22, 2013 08:57 AM (u3N3z)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 22, 2013 08:58 AM (9Xc5j)
Posted by: ChristyBlinky at August 22, 2013 12:37 PM (baL2B)
Thank you. My next act will be to invade your kingdom.
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at August 22, 2013 12:47 PM (r+7wo)
That should be easy as my only protection of my castle is a squirrel that keeps placing nuts by my door as his way of paying taxes. Soon it will be how we do it with the IRS. It is a great burden to have to wear a tiara. Just warning you to do neck exercises starting now. Hope to see you soon at a soiree! xoxo
Posted by: ChristyBlinky at August 22, 2013 09:00 AM (baL2B)
Posted by: Lindsey Graham at August 22, 2013 09:01 AM (y5bPZ)
Bradley ... er ... Chelsea... has three years to lay the foundation for GLBTQ harassment and discrimination, maybe with some disability claims to spice things up. The GLBTQ community will make this guy ...er ... gal ... er ... person ... a cause celebre of the first magnitude. Obama's going to have no choice but to pardon or at least commute.
The new generation of espionage. We're in awe.
Posted by: Pollard, Ames, Hanssen at August 22, 2013 12:57 PM (u3N3z)
**
All this plus 3 hots a cot AND cock!!
Win...WIN!!
Posted by: dananjcon at August 22, 2013 09:02 AM (jvd3N)
From memory, the 30 percent figure is from a study conducted by the Pentagon in 2010.
It took me a while to find it, and I've sort of lost interest in the whole thing. If people want to delve into it, they can.
My own experience trying to keep my relative out of the military forever changed my perception of the armed forces. When I joined Military.com to ask for advice, 100 percent of the responses were violently hostile, telling me I had no business "interfering" and that the army would make a man out of the kid. I was called every name in the book. Fuckwad, asshole, fag--you name it.
It was pure tribalism at play, the inevitable "us-versus-them" mentality that comes form having an all-volunteer force.
The people on Military.com hated me for trying to save my relative and the country from disaster. None of them cared about him as a person. All they cared about was that a civilian puke was sticking his non-military oar in.
So I await the inevitable atrocity my relative will commit, and everyone in the military will then wring their hands and say, "How'd it happen?"
It'll happen because they put the tribe ahead of the nation, and a bunch of fat recruiters falsified documents to allow a mental patient in.
Posted by: Tacky Adhesive at August 22, 2013 09:03 AM (TJw7K)
All this plus 3 hots a cot AND cock!!
Win...WIN!!
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But Manning's got to lose the cock, right? I mean you don't get to be transgender and keep the cock too, do you?
(Don't know what this man's Army is coming to if a transgender gets to keep his cock.)
Posted by: Radeaminit at August 22, 2013 09:05 AM (u3N3z)
Posted by: Matt at August 22, 2013 09:05 AM (c4UpU)
I love the idea of sending Manning to a women's prison. He'll find out what women are really like with no men around, especially women who are - ahem - not very feminine. In a year or two he will probably be begging to be turned back into a gay man.
Posted by: rockmom at August 22, 2013 09:08 AM (aBlZ1)
Posted by: no good deed at August 22, 2013 09:11 AM (WmLrU)
Posted by: Taco Shack at August 22, 2013 09:14 AM (C+qQ0)
Posted by: Peej at August 22, 2013 09:14 AM (xYVem)
Posted by: Tacky Adhesive at August 22, 2013 01:03 PM (TJw7K)
And do you wonder why that tribalism exists?
The Military is the only true Darwinian culture on the face of the earth... you literally Win, or DIE.... and we have 5000 years of written military history telling us what works and what does not.
Now, however, Civilians feel free to tell the Military how to fight... how to live... and are destroying the very traditions that make the military effective.
From Women in Combat.... to Gays... to Military Law... hell... back in the 80's they tried to forced 'Total Quality Management' onto the military.... I have no idea how many hours I wasted hearing about 'Vision Statements'...
All of this is GETTING PEOPLE KILLED.... and we know it... it is making a LESS effective military....
Add in the Fact that the Military has been at war for 12 years.... but the US is not????
Yes.... Defensive and Tribal.... accurate description of a Society under attack... whose leaders won't fight for it.... and whom are under orders NOT to fight back...
Posted by: Romeo13 at August 22, 2013 09:15 AM (lZBBB)
Posted by: Mikey at August 22, 2013 09:19 AM (db4pz)
All of this is GETTING PEOPLE KILLED.... and we know it... it is making a LESS effective military....
Hey, you know what else gets people killed and makes for a less effective military? Letting psychopathic mental patients into the armed services, giving them access to and training them in the use of CBRN, and steamrolling past all the obvious warning signs out of vulgar tribalism and a need for warm bodies and 'diversity'.
That gets a lot of people killed. Usually fellow military servicemen. But hey, make your excuses if you must. Let's just pray this particular time-bomb doesn't explode on our watch.
Posted by: Jeff B., what has finally had it with this RINO shit at August 22, 2013 09:19 AM (yemTi)
The supply sergeant in my old unit, the 82nd, did time at Ft. Leavenworth for manslaughter, killing a guy in a bar fight when he was a private stationed in Germany in the Sixties. He later got an early release back to active duty for volunteering for combat duty in Vietnam, and from there began making a very slow climb back up the career ladder. According to him, prisoners do (or did) hard labor at Leavenworth, working in a gravel quarry, making little rocks out of big rocks, mainly with hand tools: pick, sledge, wedge, shovel, wheelbarrow.
I don't imagine things have changed all that much at Ft. Leavenworth. It's a hard place where hard men do hard time. Whatever Manning is thinking prison life at Leavenworth might be like, he's about to get a very rude awakening. I'd feel sorry for him-- and would for about anyone else--but traitors deserve no pity.
Posted by: troyriser at August 22, 2013 09:22 AM (O66NZ)
Posted by: ejo at August 22, 2013 09:24 AM (GXvSO)
And since he'll be in solitary (the life expectancy of a slightly built gay traitor in gen pop could be measured in minutes), nobody will be there to tell him/her how incredibly awful he/she looks anyway.
Or does he expect the taxpayers to take him to Harlem in ermine and pearls, too?
Posted by: Adjoran at August 22, 2013 09:26 AM (473jB)
TACKY adhesive. Please.
Posted by: Tacky Adhesive at August 22, 2013 09:27 AM (TJw7K)
Posted by: LizLem at August 22, 2013 09:28 AM (8wqqE)
Posted by: NR Pax at August 22, 2013 09:29 AM (U+O64)
Posted by: red speck at August 22, 2013 09:32 AM (9/Ug/)
That gets a lot of people killed. Usually fellow military servicemen. But hey, make your excuses if you must. Let's just pray this particular time-bomb doesn't explode on our watch.>>>>>
Massive red flag that tragically indicates all my predictions will come true:
My relative calls his mother every week and tells her he's the only good soldier in his entire unit. He's the only one who knows what he's doing, and all the others are morons and losers.
Every single traitor and mass-casualty inflicter has the same attitude. He feels unappreciated for his brilliance, so he'll show everybody!
He has a complete flatness of affect that any recruiter should've seen from a mile off. Classic sign of dissociation that these people go into when they commit their atrocities. He talks like a robot and is always expressionless.
When he came out here from Missouri on leave, he told his mother he wanted to see me. I told her that he's now a grown man in the army. If he wants to see me, he can fucking well ask ME, not his mommy. I also told her that after the two shitty, taunting e-mails he sent me, if it was his plan to strut around in his uniform and tell me how wrong I was, I'd explain to him in detail why I did what I did, AND I'd give him my impressions of the kind of soldier he is, based on the photos I've seen.
He came out here and went back to Missouri without contacting me.
Posted by: Tacky Adhesive at August 22, 2013 09:36 AM (TJw7K)
Posted by: NR Pax at August 22, 2013 09:42 AM (U+O64)
Why isn't the same afforded to the sicko who wants to live his life as a My Little Pony character?
Posted by: polynikes at August 22, 2013 12:22 PM (m2CN7)
Are you "asking for a friend"?
Posted by: Heralder at August 22, 2013 09:44 AM (+xmn4)
Now, however, Civilians feel free to tell the Military how to fight... how to live... and are destroying the very traditions that make the military effective. >>>>>
The pot-bellied recruiter had a Combat Infantryman's Badge. He was the same ethnic background as my relative. My relative's father is a veteran who lied about his service. He claims to have been a sapper and has a red tab decal on his truck. He's functionally illiterate. As far as I can tell, he was in an engineering motor pool.
But he and the recruiter bonded, and the recruiter waived all the requirements for my insane relative. It was a SOLDIER who did that, not civilians. It was a SOLDIER who told me, "Hey, I'm not fuckin' Sherlock Holmes. I can't go running around investigating every accusation made by someone who might just hate the army."
My relative's alleged former sapper father is fifty-four years old and works as a stockboy at Sam's club, making $7.80 an hour. I've published seven books, four about the military.
The stockboy won the day because he's part of the tribe.
Posted by: Tacky Adhesive at August 22, 2013 09:46 AM (TJw7K)
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Posted by: Heralder at August 22, 2013 01:44 PM (+xmn4)
Yeah, for a friend. That't the ticket. a friend.
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