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May 10, 2013

BREAKING: Benghazi "Talking Points" Went Through TWELVE Revisions
— DrewM

Via National Review's Morning Jolt email newsletter.

"When it became clear last fall that the CIA's now discredited Benghazi talking points were flawed, the White House said repeatedly the documents were put together almost entirely by the intelligence community, but White House documents reviewed by Congress suggest a different story.
ABC News has obtained 12 different versions of the talking points that show they were extensively edited as they evolved from the drafts first written entirely by the CIA to the final version distributed to Congress and to U.S. Ambassador to the U.N. Susan Rice before she appeared on five talk shows the Sunday after that attack.
White House emails reviewed by ABC News suggest the edits were made with extensive input from the State Department. The edits included requests from the State Department that references to the Al Qaeda-affiliated group Ansar al-Sharia be deleted as well references to CIA warnings about terrorist threats in Benghazi in the months preceding the attack.
That would appear to directly contradict what White House Press Secretary Jay Carney said about the talking points in November.
"Those talking points originated from the intelligence community. They reflect the IC's best assessments of what they thought had happened," Carney told reporters at the White House press briefing on November 28, 2012. "The White House and the State Department have made clear that the single adjustment that was made to those talking points by either of those two institutions were changing the word 'consulate' to 'diplomatic facility' because 'consulate' was inaccurate."
Here's the kicker: "In an email to officials at the White House and the intelligence agencies, State Department spokesman Victoria Nuland took issue with including that information because it "could be abused by members [of Congress] to beat up the State Department for not paying attention to warnings, so why would we want to feed that either? Concerned . . ."

Yes, I'd be "concerned" if I were a politically ambitious Secratery of State about the truth getting out about how my department absolutely fell down on the job of providing adequate security to the Benghazi facility and that directly led to the death of four Americans.

These incompetent sons of bitches got people killed and all they cared about was saving their sorry ass reputations.

Added: Democrats are working to get reporters to smear Benghazi whistleblowers. Amazingly, some are reporting on that and not doing Obama's dirty work.

Posted by: DrewM at 05:24 AM | Comments (217)
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1 See how conscientious and thorough Cankles' department is? Ingrates.

Posted by: Grumpy Cat at May 10, 2013 05:25 AM (xw77v)

I'm concerned too.

Yours truly,

Concerned

Posted by: Bat Chain Puller at May 10, 2013 05:25 AM (SCcgT)

3 The only person who has been identified as culpable in the Benghazi mess, much less punished, is Nakoula. Liberals think that's just swell

Posted by: Jay in PA at May 10, 2013 05:27 AM (WSgyE)

4 Cover up from top to bottom.

Jail them all.

Posted by: EC at May 10, 2013 05:27 AM (GQ8sn)

5 I say if you're going to do something right, do it twelve times. In secret.

Posted by: Grumpy Cat at May 10, 2013 05:27 AM (xw77v)

6 I didn't think my level of disgust and hatred for the MFM could have gotten any lower. These criminals are actually covering for the criminals in the White House.

Posted by: Minnfidel at May 10, 2013 05:28 AM (bXdYS)

7 People Died and Hillary Lied

Posted by: Gimme_Danger at May 10, 2013 05:29 AM (3Ij+l)

8 At this point, what difference does it make? Fine. Let's rewrite our cover story once more for a baker's dozen.

Posted by: Grumpy Cat at May 10, 2013 05:29 AM (xw77v)

9 "These incompetent sons of bitches got people killed and all they cared about was saving their sorry ass reputations. "

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And they then blame the whole thing on the intelligence community- who of course cannot speak up in their own defence.

Posted by: Nighthawk at May 10, 2013 05:30 AM (OtQXp)

10 It's a witch hunt I tell ya!

Oh, look, we found the witch...

http://www.vthek.net/2013/05/witch-hunt.html

Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at May 10, 2013 05:31 AM (QXlbZ)

11 So what if we've sold out? What difference does it make?

Posted by: MSM at May 10, 2013 05:31 AM (Zv1QB)

12 I think it's only fair that Hillary, in recompense, suffer eleven more concussions.

Posted by: Grumpy Cat at May 10, 2013 05:32 AM (xw77v)

13 When the idea that news is not 'legitimate' unless it has gone through the democrat screening process of the MFM has long since been beaten to a frothy, bloody pulp, our great country will reclaim itself. That is priority one. Make them obsolete.

Posted by: Melodicmetal at May 10, 2013 05:32 AM (QY9FJ)

14 You're on your own with this one.

Posted by: Captain Renault at May 10, 2013 05:32 AM (z9HTb)

>9 And they then blame the whole thing on the intelligence community- who of course cannot speak up in their own defence.

Piss them off enough, and they will find a way to make you regret it.

Posted by: Bat Chain Puller at May 10, 2013 05:33 AM (SCcgT)

16 So who came up with the idea of the YouTube video ?

Posted by: Hiliary Clinton at May 10, 2013 05:33 AM (e8kgV)

17 I seriously loathe these fuckers and their complicent echo chamber. The few who are actually doing their jobs like Cheryl Atkinson are mocked, shunned and shutdown by the machine.

Posted by: Minnfidel at May 10, 2013 05:33 AM (bXdYS)

18 It's my job to get progressive politicians elected. And that hasn't changed. And let me say this: Aside from Chris Stevens, none of those killed in Benghazi were Democrats. So in reality what happened was, on balance, a good thing.

Posted by: Chris Mathews at May 10, 2013 05:34 AM (Zv1QB)

19 Hey, Hillary's original idea was to blame the attack on a YouTube of Rick Astley.

Posted by: Grumpy Cat at May 10, 2013 05:34 AM (xw77v)

20 According to carney these were only "Stylistic" changes in terminology. I really hope someone in the press pounds him on this. I'd like to see him break down and cry

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 10, 2013 05:34 AM (9Bj8R)

21 Stop me if you heard this before ...

Four government employees walk into Libya ...

Posted by: Hilarity Clinton at May 10, 2013 05:35 AM (e8kgV)

22 Really...I mean why would they want to take their licks for lying, obstruction and the deaths of their fellow Americans? For elections, o'course...Charge them and charge them again.

Let.them.burn.

Posted by: DefendUSA at May 10, 2013 05:35 AM (nAHMK)

23 It wasn't a lie lie.

Posted by: Whoopie Goldberg at May 10, 2013 05:36 AM (Zv1QB)

24 Well, I missed the entire THC thread. Which when I peaked in, appeared to be devolving into racist accusations or something. Anywho. The Admin failed to protect these men and women and then flat ass refused to send in help. Stand Down. It's beyond criminal.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at May 10, 2013 05:36 AM (da5Wo)

I was asking a co-worker what he was hearing about Benghazi. He watches all the political stuff that I don't, speeches and all. He's the son of higher-court judge, knows a lot of the local and State GOP peoplez, etc.

He sez he didn't watch the TiVo of Piers Morgan yet.

/facepalm

Posted by: Bigby's Gunpowder Burnt Hands at May 10, 2013 05:36 AM (3ZtZW)

26 Oh hurray! My Rage O Matic started working again. In utterly unrelated news, I'm going to go over there and have a rage stroke. Here's the kicker: "In an email to officials at the White House and the intelligence agencies, State Department spokesman Victoria Nuland took issue with including that information because it "could be abused by members [of Congress] to beat up the State Department for not paying attention to warnings, so why would we want to feed that either? Concerned . . ." Hey, Vicki, I'm gonna call you Vicki, tell you what you pathetic mewling quim, the key area of your concern should be the dead people not your own career. That is, it would be if you were an actual strong woman and not some simulacrum of one who believes that a woman who obtains power by letting men treat her horribly is a positive role model that should be emulated. You know, those on the Right get accused of viewing war as just another FPS. It sure as hell seems to me that the Left views the world as a game of Sims and if someone gets put in a house with no exits and that the creator sets that house afire to see what happens? Too bad, so sad.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies. at May 10, 2013 05:36 AM (VtjlW)

27 NBCÂ’s Lisa Myers Says Â“Number Of DemocratsÂ” Calling Her To Attempt To Undermine Benghazi WhistleblowerÂ…

Posted by: Eleanor Roosevelt at May 10, 2013 05:36 AM (e8kgV)

28 NBCÂ’s Lisa Myers Says Â“Number Of DemocratsÂ” Calling Her To Attempt To Undermine Benghazi WhistleblowerÂ… Safe to say behind the scenes Dems are in full-blown panic mode. Â“There is something called Benghazi going on, and I think the Democrats now are starting to worry about it. I started. I got calls from a number of Democrats yesterday trying to undermine Greg HicksÂ’s testimony, saying he wasnÂ’t demoted. So I think they feel that some damage was done by those three witnesses on Wednesday.Â” If NBC/MSNBC are actually reporting on this and in a negative way for obama, then the damn might actually be breaking on this. Every scumbag eventually has his/her day

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 10, 2013 05:37 AM (9Bj8R)

29 What fucking difference does it make!??!?!

Posted by: Gustaf III at May 10, 2013 05:37 AM (epWQP)

30 The idea of a free press is to hold ALL of our elected officials accountible, left or right. Regardless of ideolougy, sadly that has died and while the press is "Free" it is now actively working with those they are supposed to watch. Nobody is watching the wathcers and the gatekeepers have abandoned their post.

Posted by: Minnfidel at May 10, 2013 05:37 AM (bXdYS)

31 I thought it was covered that the talking points underwent multiethnic revisions. Is the breaking aspect of this the number of actual times or that abc is finally covering it.

Posted by: Buzzion at May 10, 2013 05:38 AM (ueOH8)

"These incompetent sons of bitches got people killed and all they cared about was saving their sorry ass reputations. "

Yeah, but that's apparently not illegal like, say, breaking into a room at the Watergate. So it's all good and you're a sexist, a racist, a partisan, and frankly a bit of a Nazi for being concerned about it.

Posted by: Jaws at May 10, 2013 05:38 AM (4I3Uo)

33 Â“There is something called Benghazi going on, and I think the Democrats now are starting to worry about it. I started. I got calls from a number of Democrats yesterday trying to undermine Greg HicksÂ’s testimony, saying he wasnÂ’t demoted. So I think they feel that some damage was done by those three witnesses on Wednesday.Â”

Posted by: Eleanor Roosevelt at May 10, 2013 05:38 AM (e8kgV)

34 hey anyone heard that fat bastard candy crowley?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 10, 2013 05:38 AM (9Bj8R)

35 If it weren't for the MSM and progressive politicians like Obama and Hillary, I wouldn't be working so hard. First it was plastics, next it was high tech, now the biggest growth industry is me.

Posted by: Double Standards at May 10, 2013 05:38 AM (Zv1QB)

36 Basically it got more airbrushing than it would take to turn Helen Thomas into a Playboy centerfold.

Posted by: @PurpAv at May 10, 2013 05:39 AM (/gHaE)

37 There are lies, damned lies, and then there's this Administration --in a league of its own.

Posted by: Felix Arabia, MD, Chancre Mechanic to the Stars at May 10, 2013 05:39 AM (k8wpQ)

38 Free Shit Army doesn't care....

they're watching the remake of I, Claudius with new and improved "hip hop"

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at May 10, 2013 05:40 AM (LRFds)

39 Incompetant is not a synonym for malignant.

Posted by: Bigby's Gunpowder Burnt Hands at May 10, 2013 05:40 AM (3ZtZW)

40 Hey, Vicki, I'm gonna call you Vicki, tell you what you pathetic mewling quim, the key area of your concern should be the dead people not your own career. That is, it would be if you were an actual strong woman and not some simulacrum of one who believes that a woman who obtains power by letting men treat her horribly is a positive role model that should be emulated. You know, those on the Right get accused of viewing war as just another FPS. It sure as hell seems to me that the Left views the world as a game of Sims and if someone gets put in a house with no exits and that the creator sets that house afire to see what happens? Too bad, so sad. Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies. at May 10, 2013 09:36 AM (VtjlW) Just in time. You didn't even need the stepstool for that one.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at May 10, 2013 05:40 AM (da5Wo)

41 Basically it got more airbrushing than it would take to turn Helen Thomas into a Playboy centerfold.

Not enough Photoshop in the world.

Posted by: EC at May 10, 2013 05:40 AM (GQ8sn)

42 39 Incompetant is not a synonym for malignant. Posted by: Bigby's Gunpowder Burnt Hands at May 10, 2013 09:40 AM (3ZtZW) It is in Barky's Admin.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at May 10, 2013 05:40 AM (da5Wo)

43 It sure as hell seems to me that the Left views the world as a game of Sims and if someone gets put in a house with no exits and that the creator sets that house afire to see what happens? Too bad, so sad.

Great metaphor. Even people who get excited about the daily doings of Kardashians can understand that.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™, ray of sunshine at May 10, 2013 05:42 AM (ZKzrr)

44 Well, 8 months later, ABC is doing their job (sort of)!

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Sarcastic and Radicalized Redneck Queen at May 10, 2013 05:42 AM (baL2B)

45 Hillary is just following the path of DemGod Ted Kennedy. Mary Jo was drowning and he was saving his political career, instead of dialing 911.

Hillary was off drinking instead of doing her job, while Stevens screamed for more support. Then when the vehicle went off the road, help was not forthcoming. Instead the coverup was immediately put in place.

The little people are disposable. It's the Democrat way ... the Chicago way too.

Posted by: Illini Bill at May 10, 2013 05:42 AM (H1lIc)

46
Watching these crooked dems now, is like watching a cat trying to cover a pile of it's own poop on a tile floor.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at May 10, 2013 05:42 AM (0IhFx)

47 Incompetant is not a synonym for malignant. Posted by: Bigby's Gunpowder Burnt Hands at May 10, 2013 09:40 AM

It crossed over to malignity with the coverup.

Posted by: huerfano at May 10, 2013 05:42 AM (bAGA/)

48 Holding Obama and Hillary to any standard of behavior or honesty is racist and sexist, straight up. So what if people died! So what if no help was sent! What difference does it make?

Posted by: Janene Garofalo at May 10, 2013 05:42 AM (Zv1QB)

49 Because synchronization of the lying liar's lies is hard and stuff.

Posted by: Larsen E. Whipsnade at May 10, 2013 05:42 AM (rXcBX)

50 Who came up with the YouTube video?

That's the really bad part.

The people complaining about the YouTube video were Islamists in Egypt and Iran.

That's who the Obama administration was listening to.

That's who mattered to them.

That's who they were seeking to placate.

Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at May 10, 2013 05:43 AM (QXlbZ)

51 24 Well, I missed the entire THC thread. Which when I peaked in... Dude, comment 420 was...what?

Posted by: fluffy forgot, Man at May 10, 2013 05:43 AM (z9HTb)

52 This is the shit that happens when you let 60s radicals and their students run a Country.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 10, 2013 05:43 AM (9Bj8R)

53 Twelve revisions?

Definitely no cover-up. Definitely no malice. Definitely no attempt to spin the story.

Fuck these fucking fuckers in their fucking faces. And fuck the Obama Administration, too.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at May 10, 2013 05:44 AM (fwARV)

54 47 oh, I agree.

Posted by: Bigby's Gunpowder Burnt Hands at May 10, 2013 05:44 AM (3ZtZW)

55 Just in time. You didn't even need the stepstool for that one. Posted by: BCochran1981 at May 10, 2013 09:40 AM (da5Wo) Eh, it's the lowest possible hanging fruit. I am pretty damn partisan but I cannot conceive of being in a situation like that and my first response being "hey, I have to make sure that I and my boss don't look bad!" That's so far beyond sociopathic that I don't know what to call it.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies. at May 10, 2013 05:44 AM (VtjlW)

56 Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies. at May 10, 2013 09:36 AM (VtjlW) On the bright side she is always frowning with her weird left eyebrow kinky. She never has one answer at the podium. So, one assumes, she be stupid as well as a liar.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Sarcastic and Radicalized Redneck Queen at May 10, 2013 05:44 AM (baL2B)

57 It crossed over to malignity with the coverup. Posted by: huerfano at May 10, 2013 09:42 AM (bAGA/) No, it did so with the Stand Down order. I can barely contain my rage at that. Think about it, you have Americans screaming over the radio for help. That they're under attack. You have assets begging to go help. Stand Down. They flat ass, outright denied help to Americans under attack. Fuck these people. A rope and a tree are too good for them.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at May 10, 2013 05:44 AM (da5Wo)

They lie to us and manipulate us and No One Cares!?!?

I swear, Obama could kidnap 3 Ohio girls and keep them in his basement for 10 years and the media and democrats would yawn and tell us to move on from the old, politically-based story!

Posted by: Lily at May 10, 2013 05:45 AM (igSv+)

59 Administration: Let's nominate a woman for Ambassador to Libya, a muslim country. Smart Power!! Seriously, it's willfull blindness on their part. They don't care that muslim leaders will treat her as a non-factor because she's a woman. Stupid, stupid, stupid.

Posted by: Mainah at May 10, 2013 05:45 AM (659DL)

60 The NY SLime says there is nothing to this but mean Republicans, so you people go home and STFU.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at May 10, 2013 05:46 AM (wR+pz)

"Amazingly, some are reporting on that and not doing Obama's dirty work."

Yeah. That IS some kind of weird. Maybe they are thinking that they have already been stupid enough and don't want to compound the damage to their ratings by double dipping at the idiot trough.

Posted by: and irresolute at May 10, 2013 05:46 AM (DBH1h)

62 So what if I spiked Romney during the debate? I was protecting an incompetent black man. I did my job and was rewarded for it. Really sad what happened to Chris.

Posted by: Candy Crowely at May 10, 2013 05:46 AM (Zv1QB)

63 46 Watching these crooked dems now, is like watching a cat trying to cover a pile of it's own poop on a tile floor. Posted by: Sticky Wicket at May 10, 2013 09:42 AM (0IhFx) I like this picture. I will remember the next time I have to view Cummins. Something weird just happened in this little comment box or I am having teh seizure. Perhaps the gubment just added me to the watch list for the camps?

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Sarcastic and Radicalized Redneck Queen at May 10, 2013 05:47 AM (baL2B)

64 Remember how the leftards wanted to hang W with the Aug 6, 2011 PDB? GOOD TIMES.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at May 10, 2013 05:47 AM (i3yCl)

65 The people complaining about the YouTube video were Islamists in Egypt and Iran.

That's who the Obama administration was listening to.

Islamists in the UK are now threatening to kill atheists. Progtards, own petard, some hoisting required.

Posted by: Ian S. at May 10, 2013 05:47 AM (OevbG)

66 That's so far beyond sociopathic that I don't know what to call it. Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies. at May 10, 2013 09:44 AM (VtjlW) I believe "Socialism" is the word you're looking for ma'am. The State is Supreme and can do no wrong. Anything that could appear to put the State in the wrong must be managed.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at May 10, 2013 05:48 AM (da5Wo)

67 MFM: No story here! This is all politics and racism and sexism!!!!

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 10, 2013 05:48 AM (1Jaio)

68 You morons fail to realize that NOTHING is their fault. From unemployment, the failed stimulus, terrorism, deficits, the numerous solyndra's. The healthcare debacle, Benghazi, etc. etc. ad nauseum. NOTHING is actually their fault. They're still blaming Bush for heavens sake. You think they are going to take the fall for this? Not a chance, and the MFM will help them. Oh I'm sure some low level person will be the fall guy, they're merely collateral damage. It's how they view the "little people" It's why they didn't send help to the consulate. If they gave two wits about them they would have. Instead they were worried about their precious reputations and the complicent media is eager to help.

Posted by: Minnfidel at May 10, 2013 05:48 AM (bXdYS)

69 Shit gets real when a carefully crafted narrative collapses.

Posted by: [/i][/b] at May 10, 2013 05:49 AM (Vgn84)

70 That's 2001

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at May 10, 2013 05:49 AM (i3yCl)

71 Didn't. Lay. A. Glove. On. Secretary. Clinton.

Got it wingers?

Posted by: Dana Milbank at May 10, 2013 05:49 AM (KjlbF)

72 70 That's 2001 Posted by: Empire of Jeff at May 10, 2013 09:49 AM (i3yCl) Loose shit man, better tighten up.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at May 10, 2013 05:49 AM (da5Wo)

73 Yarn spinning.

Story telling.

Hollywood script.

Posted by: Dana Milbank at May 10, 2013 05:50 AM (KjlbF)

74 Annnd once again I say nothing will happen. Nothing. Will. Happen.

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at May 10, 2013 05:50 AM (R8hU8)

75 Hillary told the family members as the coffins were in front of her.. that she would get the you tube video guy... She looked the family of the deceased in the eye and lied to them for politics.

Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at May 10, 2013 05:51 AM (DGIjM)

76 They lie to us and manipulate us and No One Cares!?!? I swear, Obama could kidnap 3 Ohio girls and keep them in his basement for 10 years and the media and democrats would yawn and tell us to move on from the old, politically-based story! Posted by: Lily at May 10, 2013 09:45 AM (igSv+) There's a reason why I call this the greatest Onion story ever - http://onion.com/8Ztb1v

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies. at May 10, 2013 05:51 AM (VtjlW)

77 Dude! Where is my Pulitzer?

Posted by: Dana Milbank at May 10, 2013 05:52 AM (KjlbF)

78 That movie 2011 was just great. When that monkey touches the black stele and then starts writing a blog while "Thus Spake Zarathustra" plays. Fantastic. And I love kettledrums.

Posted by: andycanuck at May 10, 2013 05:52 AM (mGBy8)

79 Think about it.... what kind of ghouls can stand over the caskets of people they let die (at least they didn't try and save them) and lie. Then to compound it they lied to the grieving relatives of those same people. That is a whole 'nother level of sickness in my book. I couldn't do it.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at May 10, 2013 05:52 AM (jucos)

80 Letting those people die in Benghazi and then lying about it to Obama and Hillary look good was the gutsy call. Dana Milbank is still evolving on the issue.

Posted by: The new narrative at May 10, 2013 05:52 AM (Zv1QB)

81 absolutely fell down on the job of providing adequate security Yeah, that's one of their talking points, too. Seems to me you had to be pretty active and coordinated with the White House to "fall down" and get those people killed.

Posted by: t-bird at May 10, 2013 05:53 AM (FcR7P)

82 74 Annnd once again I say nothing will happen. Nothing. Will. Happen. Bil Bennet wrote a book called the Death of Outrage. Outrage is the truest enemy of tyranny. Without Outrage there is only tyranny.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at May 10, 2013 05:53 AM (DRG6e)

83 The only good thing that might come from this is when push comes to shove, Barry will throw Hillary under the bus to save himself. So it would be nice if things heated up enough that Barry and Hillary turned on each other.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 10, 2013 05:53 AM (1Jaio)

You could edit those talking points a million times and they would never be able to spin why there wasn't even an attempt to send a response during the attack.

That is the linchpin of this scandal. Not the refusal to provide more security before. Not the attempted spin that it was a spontaneous protest.

It is the fact that they let our people be murdered and injured and intentionally not lifting a finger to help.

Posted by: polynikes at May 10, 2013 05:53 AM (m2CN7)

85 There's a commenter going by "Jennifer Poplaw" at the ABC News site who is a raving idiot, claiming Barry and Hillary! did everything possible to save our ambassador and three other men.

Jeebus, libs are stupid. She's also claiming "we had no right to have military on the ground there and couldn't send planes and reinforcements in."

I wanted to pound my head on my desk.

LIVs are the death of this nation.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 10, 2013 05:54 AM (lVPtV)

86 They lie to us and manipulate us and No One Cares!?!? Posted by: Lily at May 10, 2013 09:45 AM (igSv+) Lots of us care. Unfortunately, we are the UnPeople of JesusLand.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at May 10, 2013 05:54 AM (da5Wo)

87 Don't forget. Hammer those so call experts and college professors that came out wanting to restrict freedom of speech. They need to be mocked and scorned EVERY. FUCKING. DAY.

Posted by: Hanoverfist at May 10, 2013 05:54 AM (D4Vl1)

88 Hillary told the family members as the coffins were in front of her.. that she would get the you tube video guy... She looked the family of the deceased in the eye and lied to them for politics. Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at May 10, 2013 09:51 AM (DGIjM) The clintons would sell their own mothers down the river for political gain

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 10, 2013 05:54 AM (9Bj8R)

89 Cover up from top to bottom. Jail them all. It occurs to me that we have the perfect minimum-security facility for them. ...in Benghazi.

Posted by: t-bird at May 10, 2013 05:54 AM (FcR7P)

90 The only good thing that might come from this is when push comes to shove, Barry will throw Hillary under the bus to save himself. So it would be nice if things heated up enough that Barry and Hillary turned on each other.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 10, 2013 09:53 AM ...................................................CHICK FIGHT!!!!!!!

Posted by: Minnfidel at May 10, 2013 05:54 AM (bXdYS)

91 This administration is a bunch of soulless homunculi.

Posted by: toby928 at May 10, 2013 05:55 AM (evdj2)

92 Hillary cupped one of the womens' face in her hand when telling her, too. That filthy video-maker was gonna PAY for killing your son!

75 Hillary told the family members as the coffins were in front of her.. that she would get the you tube video guy...
She looked the family of the deceased in the eye and lied to them for politics.

Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at May 10, 2013 09:51 AM (DGIjM)

Posted by: Pyrocles at May 10, 2013 05:55 AM (cv5Iw)

93 That is the linchpin of this scandal. Not the refusal to provide more security before. Not the attempted spin that it was a spontaneous protest. It is the fact that they let our people be murdered and injured and intentionally not lifting a finger to help. Posted by: polynikes at May 10, 2013 09:53 AM (m2CN7) DrewM ever walk back his claims?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at May 10, 2013 05:55 AM (da5Wo)

94 I think I maybe over did it today with my two Dove chocolates, two black tea, and chocolate Carnation Instant breakfast. I suddenly feel like cleaning the house! The breakfast of champions. And that wolf from the ONT last night is looking at me... One of the wisdom sayings from the chocolate is this: 'Do what feels right." What would really make me feel right would be to attend today's press conference with Jay Carney. Instead I will dust our bedroom and maybe other things that need to be done.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Sarcastic and Radicalized Redneck Queen at May 10, 2013 05:56 AM (baL2B)

95 88 Hillary told the family members as the coffins were in front of her.. that she would get the you tube video guy...
She looked the family of the deceased in the eye and lied to them for politics.

Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at May 10, 2013 09:51 AM (DGIjM

And the father of one of the dead said Barry gave him a limp handshake and muttered "I'm sorry for your loss" while never making eye contact and looking over the top of his head.

Filthy Marxist bastard.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 10, 2013 05:56 AM (lVPtV)

96
I swear, Obama could kidnap 3 Ohio girls and keep them in his basement for 10 years and the media and democrats would yawn and tell us to move on from the old, politically-based story!

You forgot the part where Robert Redford makes a movie of the story, and paints Obamao as the hero.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at May 10, 2013 05:56 AM (0IhFx)

97 Remember all those ubiquitous "If Your Not Outraged, You're Not Paying Attention!" bumper stickers that were all the rage during Bush's presidency? Don't see them much anymore.

82 74 Annnd once again I say nothing will happen. Nothing. Will. Happen.

Bil Bennet wrote a book called the Death of Outrage.

Outrage is the truest enemy of tyranny. Without Outrage there is only tyranny.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at May 10, 2013 09:53 AM (DRG6e)

Posted by: Pyrocles at May 10, 2013 05:57 AM (cv5Iw)

98 That Manti Te'o's "girlfriend" made Maxim's top 100 tells you all you need to know about the "culture" in America today.

Oh and btw; with Miley Cyrus making the list, it's now become clear why Amand Bynes is having a meltdown.

Poor girl is cute, funny, talented and yet some douchebag, pedobait, semi skinheaded dope smoker (who I wouldn't bang with YOUR dick) makes the list and she doesn't?

I'd be trying to get attention anyway I could too.

Poor baby.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at May 10, 2013 05:57 AM (yKGCL)

99 Piss them off enough, and they will find a way to make you regret it.

Posted by: Bat Chain Puller at May 10, 2013 09:33 AM (SCcgT)

===========

"Hence it is that which none in the whole
army are more intimate relations to be maintained than with spies. None
should be more liberally rewarded. In no other fields should greater secrecy
be preserved.

(1) Spies cannot be usefully employed without a certain intuitive sagacity;
(2) They cannot be properly managed without benevolence and straight
forwardness;
(3) Without subtle ingenuity of mind, one cannot make certain
of the truth of their reports"

--Stuff Sun Tzu Actually Did Say.

TFG has been abusing his spies for a long time- I hope he lives to regret it.

Posted by: Nighthawk at May 10, 2013 05:57 AM (OtQXp)

100 Vince Foster and Ron Brown were unavailable for comment.

Posted by: dfbaskwill at May 10, 2013 05:58 AM (ndlFj)

101

If I lied about al Qaeda involvement in something to an FBI agent I would be charged with at least two felonies assuming the FBI was investigating something legitimate.

Just saying.

Lying to the American people and thwarting justice at ever turn seems to be a bad thing even though Obama did it.

I know, racism.

That's before you get to them hanging out a poor Copt for ultimate jihadi beheading and scapegoated our First Amendment at the behest of their many political Muslim friends.

Posted by: Beagle at May 10, 2013 05:58 AM (sOtz/)

102 Even loyal NBC getting calls to smear Hicks. See the sock link.

Posted by: andycanuck at May 10, 2013 05:58 AM (mGBy8)

103 Notice how inaccurate talking points from Democrats are "flawed", even if they are outrageous lies. Seems to me that if they come from a Republican, the MSM goes straight to calling them "lies", even if they are really closer to inaccuracies.

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at May 10, 2013 05:58 AM (bpMiu)

104 Would any of you Internet tuff guys want to say these awful things to Hillary Clinton's face, in front of her Secret Service detail? I hope they'd kill you.

Posted by: National Review Paladin at May 10, 2013 05:58 AM (DRG6e)

105 No, it did so with the Stand Down order. I can barely contain my rage at that. Think about it, you have Americans screaming over the radio for help. That they're under attack. You have assets begging to go help. Stand Down.

They flat ass, outright denied help to Americans under attack.

Fuck these people. A rope and a tree are too good for them.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at May 10, 2013 09:44 AM (da5Wo)

This. And then the JEF faces Mittens the Timid and talks about how offended HE is that anybody would suspect him of this. And Willard folded like cheap cards.

Posted by: Captain Hate at May 10, 2013 05:58 AM (2HHMh)

106 Jeebus, libs are stupid. She's also claiming "we had no right to have military on the ground there and couldn't send planes and reinforcements in."

I wanted to pound my head on my desk.

LIVs are the death of this nation.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 10, 2013 09:54 AM .................We were talking about this yesterday. Any CIC with any balls is going to send help and ask for permission later. I mean it's Libya. What the hell are they going to do? We didn't seem to have a problem sending air support to overthrow Quadaffy and hopping in bed with the Muslime Brotherhood all over the ME. Think about it for a minute. We send air support to the Muslime Brotherhood and not our own people. And suddenly they were worried about getting premission from Libya? Bullshit.

Posted by: Minnfidel at May 10, 2013 05:59 AM (bXdYS)

107 Did ABC mention their scoop on the nightly news? Or was this some CYA backpage website report.

Posted by: toby928 at May 10, 2013 05:59 AM (evdj2)

108

>>>This administration is a bunch of soulless homunculi.

There were 12 revisions, but we don't talk about the Final Five.

- Cylon State Dept Desk Jockey

Posted by: Bigby's Gunpowder Burnt Hands at May 10, 2013 05:59 AM (3ZtZW)

109 This is a criminal regime.

Posted by: JohnKerryIsADoucheBag at May 10, 2013 05:59 AM (QTVh2)

110 Looking into the eyes of the parents when the caskets came home from Benghazi? Priceless! They had the most exquisitely hurt look I've ever seen.

Posted by: President Obama at May 10, 2013 05:59 AM (Zv1QB)

111 OH MY GAWD! They airbrushed the cellulite out of Britney Spears thighs on the most recent cover I saw her on! I wonder if they could do that for me?

Posted by: Low Info Voter at May 10, 2013 06:00 AM (jucos)

112 And we have a press that knows all this and is actively covering it up. How creepy is that?!! At least in Russia they had to be threatened with death to cover things up.. I dont even recognize America anymore.

Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at May 10, 2013 06:00 AM (DGIjM)

113 104 Would any of you Internet tuff guys want to say these awful things to Hillary Clinton's face, in front of her Secret Service detail?

I hope they'd kill you.

Posted by: National Review Paladin at May 10, 2013 09:58 AM (DRG6e

Go fuck yourself with Hillary's dick.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 10, 2013 06:01 AM (lVPtV)

114 Would any of you Internet tuff guys want to say these awful things to Hillary Clinton's face, in front of her Secret Service detail?

I hope they'd kill you.

Posted by: National Review Paladin at May 10, 2013 09:58 AM....................................Actually I'd love to show up at one of her events wearing a t-shirt that said "I went to Benghazi and all I got was a bunch of dead Americans an ass raped ambassador and this stupid t-shirt."

Posted by: Minnfidel at May 10, 2013 06:01 AM (bXdYS)

115 Hey, Hillary's original idea was to blame the attack on a YouTube of Rick Astley. Posted by: Grumpy Cat at May 10, 2013 09:34 AM (xw77v) LOL, That, I would not have questioned

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at May 10, 2013 06:01 AM (XIxXP)

116 It's amazing nowadays when reporters actually do their job of finding out the truth and reporting it to the American public, instead of acting like the PR arm of the Left. That's what the state of "journalism" has come to--a series of astonishing states.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at May 10, 2013 06:01 AM (xjpRj)

117 >>That is the linchpin of this scandal. Not the refusal to provide more security before. Not the attempted spin that it was a spontaneous protest. I disagree slightly. Hillary and State have been trying to make the case ever since this went down that they were never warned about deteriorating security conditions in Benghazi. Stevens diary along with things like testimony from Hicks and Nordstrom are proving this to be an absolute lie. In fact, they were begging for more security, documenting attacks by Islamic militants and Stevens even claimed he was told that he was on an al Qaeda hit list. Knowing all of this not only to State not increase security they actually decreased security. That alone demonstrates unbelievable incompetence on the part of State who were charged with providing security for their people, particularly those in highly dangerous spots like Benghazi and on the anniversary of 9/11. That's why the talking points were scrubbed of any reference to Islamic terrorists and there was an attempt to shift the blame to a dumb video. Hillary doesn't give a shit about dead Americans. She cares about her wide ass and her run for the presidency.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 10, 2013 06:01 AM (g1DWB)

118 I helped kill Americans other Americans wanted to save. My duty to Jihad is done. You should be thanking me.

Posted by: President Obama at May 10, 2013 06:01 AM (Zv1QB)

119

I get tired of saying it, but it must be said over and over.....imagine if this had been a Republican President and SoS who lied directly into the faces of the anguished parents of dead Americans...those parents would be given the Cindy Sheehan treatment x10....instead these folks can only get on Fox News, which allows the liberal media to ignore them.

Whoever runs against Hillary in 2016, had better have the balls to run an ad with some comments by those parents and the clip of Hillary saying "what difference does it make?" That clip should doom her as much as John Kerry's "I was for it before I was against it" clip did in 2004. Of course the DMM will howl and shriek....let 'em.

Posted by: rockmom at May 10, 2013 06:02 AM (aBlZ1)

120 104 - so, you'd hope people criticizing Hillary Clinton are murdered. Good to know where you stand.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at May 10, 2013 06:02 AM (xjpRj)

121 The future does not belong to those who insult Islam.

Posted by: President Obama at May 10, 2013 06:02 AM (Zv1QB)

122 7 People Died and Hillary Lied Hillary Denied, People Died, and Hillary Lied. FIFY

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at May 10, 2013 06:03 AM (bpMiu)

123 Repeat after me, fellow cash crops:

This steak is juicy and delicious.

There's nothing to see here.

Posted by: grognard at May 10, 2013 06:03 AM (/29Nl)

124 Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 10, 2013 10:01 AM (lVPtV) The post was meant as satire.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at May 10, 2013 06:03 AM (DRG6e)

125 Knowing all of this not only to State not increase security they actually decreased security. Indeed. But to what end? Why decrease security? What was to be gained? It's not like a Democrat would ever be concerned about spending tax money. Something was going on. Something intentional.

Posted by: toby928 at May 10, 2013 06:03 AM (evdj2)

126 I hope they'd kill you. Posted by: National Review Paladin at May 10, 2013 09:58 AM (DRG6e They are pretty busy drinking and chasing third world whores. I don't think that would be a problem.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at May 10, 2013 06:04 AM (XIxXP)

127 121 104 - so, you'd hope people criticizing Hillary Clinton are murdered. Good to know where you stand. Posted by: BeckoningChasm at May 10, 2013 10:02 AM (xjpRj) That whole Germans looking the other way as Hitler rounded up their neighbors.............. I can see how it happened now. They were people like that guy.

Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at May 10, 2013 06:04 AM (DGIjM)

128 104 Would any of you Internet tuff guys want to say these awful things to Hillary Clinton's face, in front of her Secret Service detail? I hope they'd kill you. I'm fairly certain that her secret service detail would be willing to stand by while all of these things were being said. And inside, they'd be smiling.

Posted by: Jack at May 10, 2013 06:05 AM (Zv1QB)

129 I find the push by the SEAL team 6 family members interestinger and interestinger.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at May 10, 2013 06:05 AM (XIxXP)

130 More lies, but no perjury because pussy Republicans did not make them take an oath before testifying.

Posted by: Vic at May 10, 2013 06:05 AM (53z96)

131 We're still looking for the bar. The bar on how low the media will go to protect all of these scumbags in the WH and Congress. The bar on how low the media will go, until (some?) realize just how much freedom they are losing. The bar on how low the media will go on protecting common, low-class, federal criminals and pathological liars. Still waiting.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 10, 2013 06:06 AM (XYSwB)

132 132 More lies, but no perjury because pussy Republicans did not make them take an oath before testifying. Posted by: Vic at May 10, 2013 10:05 AM (53z96) OMG.. I didnt know that.

Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at May 10, 2013 06:06 AM (DGIjM)

133 That alone demonstrates unbelievable incompetence on the part of State who were charged with providing security for their people, particularly those in highly dangerous spots like Benghazi and on the anniversary of 9/11. Posted by: JackStraw at May 10, 2013 10:01 AM (g1DWB) You hit it right. Incompetence. Extreme, dangerous, unbelievable incompetence. I'm talking about malice. Someone made the decision to refuse to help these people. They knew they were under attack. They knew they needed help. They knew what was going to happen. And. They. Said. No. Stand Down. Can you imagine what the carnage would have looked like if Woods, Doherty and the others hadn't DEFIED ORDERS and gone to the consulate? The incompetence is bad, but it's Stand Down that is where the most outrage should be directed.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at May 10, 2013 06:06 AM (da5Wo)

134 Still waiting. Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 10, 2013 10:06 AM (XYSwB) That's not a bar, it's a painted line on the floor

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at May 10, 2013 06:07 AM (XIxXP)

135 Holy crap! If you scrubbed Hillary Clinton's reputation 12 times she just might come out looking as appealing as Lindsay Lohan.

Posted by: Fritz at May 10, 2013 06:07 AM (G9Mmf)

136 The bar on how low the media will go, until (some?) realize just how much freedom they are losing. It's turtles all the way down. Many will be completely baffled when they go up against the wall.

Posted by: toby928 at May 10, 2013 06:07 AM (evdj2)

137

The post was meant as satire.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at May 10, 2013 10:03 AM (DRG6e)

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I got it, but I also read the poster names, too. National Review Paladin? Greg Pollowitz white-knighting Meghaton McButterfat?

The kill switch on some of y'alls sense of humor is way too sensitive.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at May 10, 2013 06:07 AM (CJjw5)

138 We got the Youtube video guy. What was his name?

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at May 10, 2013 06:07 AM (Zv1QB)

139

#106 But that's also part of why the coverup was necessary. A "spontaneous demonstration" does not rise to the level of sending in the military. A "terrorist attack" does, and also demands a response to the terrorists after the fact. Obama wanted no part of any of that, 8 weeks before the election.

They were either venal or incompetent in not sending in the military when people still could have been saved, so they had to invent another narrative of the attack to allow them to say that military force would not have been justified under the circumstances.

So this isn't just about saving Hillary's ass, and I do not think we should be satisifed that the talking points bullshit all came out of the State Department just because that could end Hillary's political career. The White House had every reason to want to participate in this coverup and the investigation should continue until that is known to all.

Posted by: rockmom at May 10, 2013 06:08 AM (aBlZ1)

140 ABC News is now racing to get o the front of the parade. Give them credit or being the first of the Big 3 to see the coming wreckage. But give them no credit for anything else. When this parade ends, ABC, NBC, and to a lesser extent, CBS need to be kicked to the curb and flushed down the storm gutter.

Posted by: MaxMBJ at May 10, 2013 06:08 AM (deaac)

141 Ok. This is actually quite damning. This looks *really* bad for the State Dept. Benghazi might actually turn into something.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at May 10, 2013 06:09 AM (52n2x)

142 Okay 104 was me. I was making an analogy between National Review's spirited defense of Meghan McCain and the hope her marine brother would beat us all up with confronting another woman who would have cimbat-capable people nearby. I have failed utterly in my satire.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at May 10, 2013 06:09 AM (eMP2S)

143 Even Wapo is waking up to the incompetence on display. I may not agree with them that it is ONLY incompetence, and not criminality, but at least they are reporting on it. They even cite Stephen Hayes in their reporting. http://t.co/wuUzYx8ugh

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 10, 2013 06:09 AM (piMMO)

144 And speaking of reporting, Sharyl Attkisson will be on Face the Nation on Sunday to discuss #Benghazi. She might be looking to distract from her coverage because she tweeted that Bob Schieffer "has been all over this story".

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 10, 2013 06:10 AM (piMMO)

145 Benghazi might actually turn into something. Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at May 10, 2013 10:09 AM (52n2x) I hate to play eyeore, but, all the enforcment mechanisms are controlled by Obama. The MSM will spin this shit no matter how bad it gets. Does the name Brian Terry ring a bell?

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at May 10, 2013 06:11 AM (XIxXP)

146 Incompetence is their out. They're betting that incompetence can be forgiven if the media keeps repeating that no one could have done better, over and over. Fog of war, yadda yadda. It was not incompetence, it was intentional.

Posted by: toby928 at May 10, 2013 06:11 AM (evdj2)

147 Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at May 10, 2013 10:09 AM ............................Dude, you can't do that shit around here until the horde is on their 7th cup of coffee for the day........or their 7th beer.

Posted by: Minnfidel at May 10, 2013 06:11 AM (bXdYS)

148 Damn damn damn. Is Hillary finished? This ABC story is HUGE. It's the smoking gun, at least as far as I'm concerned.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at May 10, 2013 06:11 AM (52n2x)

149 >>Something was going on. Something intentional. Perhaps. And I have long been onboard with the idea of US weapons being lost in Libya that Obama provided during the battle with Gaddafi, many of which have also made their way to Syria, but sometimes the easiest answer is the right one. These people are fundamentally incompetent. What has Hillary ever done successfully? Seriously, can you thing of one legislative coup she ever pulled off? Remember her health care debacle? What did she do as a senator? Nothing. And really, why would any of these people worry about negative consequences. They have never been held to account by the msm for their fuckups or lies. If not for some dogged work by a handful of Republican reps (I know, hard to believe) and a few actual reporters this would have slid under the waves months ago. Hell, we had a reporter actually debating with Obama against Romney on this topic during the election. Arrogance, entitlement, a willing msm and power. Why not do whatever you fucking want?

Posted by: JackStraw at May 10, 2013 06:11 AM (g1DWB)

150 Even Wapo is waking up to the incompetence on display. I may not agree with them that it is ONLY incompetence, and not criminality, but at least they are reporting on it. They even cite Stephen Hayes in their reporting. http://t.co/wuUzYx8ugh Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 10, 2013 10:09 AM (piMMO) I think, but mostly hope, that if and when the damn breaks on this, the shit coming out will be astonishing and will cripple this Admin for the next 3 1/2 years

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 10, 2013 06:11 AM (9Bj8R)

151 I have failed utterly in my satire.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at May 10, 2013 10:09 AM (eMP2S)

Wrong; EoJ and I knew what you were doing and probably others.

Posted by: Captain Hate at May 10, 2013 06:11 AM (2HHMh)

152 Okay, here's my take on what actually happened. I posted it on Hot Air last night.

The Vast Right Wing Conspiracy, hereafter referred to as the VRWC, used the wayback machine to ensure Hillary Clinton was defeated in the 2008 democrat primaries. It was an expensive proposition, but well worth the money that was rolled over from a VRWC slush fund set up by Bush when he blew up the World Trade Centers and Pentagon so that he could invade Iraq and avenge the unsatisfactory end to Operation Desert Storm and his fatherÂ’s loss to the sleazy Bill Clinton in the 1992 election. The VRWC then brokered a deal between a little known junior senator from Illinois, Barack Obama, and John McCain that allowed McCain the honor of being nominated (it was his turn) without all the bother of trying to win the election. The deal turned on Hillary Clinton being named Secretary of State and this Obama promised to do (after that, he could just play golf and give speeches). Once Hillary was in at State, the rest was simple. The VRWC arranged a coup in Libya, getting the no longer terror supporting Qaddafy out of the way and a bunch of terrorist supporting yahoos in. CIA would try to buy back all the shoulder mounted missiles that NATO (meaning the US) had given the rebels. An adjunct facility would have to be set up in an out of the way backwater (like all of Libya isnÂ’t a backwater) to take out the Ambassador. Meanwhile, a low value flunky had to be found to take the fall. An untalented wannabe film maker agreed to make an inane video that could be blamed for the murder of the Ambassador and any other collateral damage that might occur. The VRWC has an equally vast slush fund, IYKWIMAITYD, so they made it worth his while. The original plan was to have Clinton go on the Sunday talk shows and blame the video, but the veteran of a Little Rock law firm and marriage to Bill Clinton was far too canny for that, so UN Ambassador Susan Rice had to be sacrificed. Too bad, really, sheÂ’d have made a heck of an SoS. Since Clinton didnÂ’t bite on the original scheme, the VRWC had to with their second, even more diabolical plan: Hearings! Hearings of the House Oversight Committee would finally take Hillary Clinton out of running for the presidency forever!

Posted by: huerfano at May 10, 2013 06:12 AM (bAGA/)

153

At this point, what does it matter?

This still doesn't rise to level of Watergate, when Nixon ordered all those people gassed and thrown into ovens...

or something like that.

Posted by: jwest at May 10, 2013 06:12 AM (u2a4R)

154 133 We're still looking for the bar. The bar on how low the media will go to protect all of these scumbags in the WH and Congress. The bar on how low the media will go, until (some?) realize just how much freedom they are losing. The bar on how low the media will go on protecting common, low-class, federal criminals and pathological liars. Still waiting. Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 10, 2013 10:06 AM (XYSwB) The bar has been met, for me, on the weekend Susan Rice lied, after the entire British Press had the story correct on within 48 hours. Within 24 hours they listed the lack of security at the consulate, the attempted bombing of the British ambassador, etc. I woke up that weekend thinking the story was going to break wide open, and no one but Ace, conservative bloggers, FOX, CNRO had the story aligning with the British Press. Susan Rice lied about Americans who died as the direct result of their incompetence. So, IMHO, the bar has been crossed.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Sarcastic and Radicalized Redneck Queen at May 10, 2013 06:12 AM (baL2B)

155 The military is also going to take a hit in this. I just wonder how the Petreus resignation played into the whole story.

Posted by: MaxMBJ at May 10, 2013 06:12 AM (deaac)

156 This isn't about incompetence. We vote incompetents. Will the people vote in a proven liar covering up incompetence that got our people killed? That might be a bridge too far.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at May 10, 2013 06:12 AM (52n2x)

157 Even though the beatings continued, moral did not improve. We became really concerned when management decided they wanted human sacrifices. That's when most of decided to transfer to the Department of Agriculture.

Posted by: Mid level people in the State Department at May 10, 2013 06:12 AM (Zv1QB)

158

Posted by: JackStraw at May 10, 2013 10:01 AM (g1DWB)

I agree with you but I think its the linchpin because that is what the low information voter will understand. They see Chuck Norris types swoop in and kick ass on every other television program or movie.

They will not accept or understand why there was not even an attempt at sending in a military response much less having the government order a stand down.

Posted by: polynikes at May 10, 2013 06:13 AM (m2CN7)

159 Even Wapo is waking up to the incompetence on display. I may not agree with them that it is ONLY incompetence, and not criminality, but at least they are reporting on it. They even cite Stephen Hayes in their reporting.

http://t.co/wuUzYx8ugh

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 10, 2013 10:09 AM (piMMO)

Good God, what is this country coming to if the news media starts doing its job

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 10, 2013 06:13 AM (1Jaio)

160 At this point, what does it matter?

This still doesn't rise to level of Watergate, when Nixon ordered all those people gassed and thrown into ovens...

or something like that.

Posted by: jwest at May 10, 2013 10:12 AM ....................................Exactly! Fucking haters!

Posted by: Rosanne C_nt Punt Barr at May 10, 2013 06:14 AM (bXdYS)

161 158 At this point, what does it matter? This still doesn't rise to level of Watergate, when Nixon ordered all those people gassed and thrown into ovens... or something like that. If you asked people which had a higher body count, I assume 40% of the public would say Watergate. Because all people know about Watergate is that it was bad.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at May 10, 2013 06:14 AM (eMP2S)

162

The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam. Behead those who insult the Prophet!

Is that last bit too much?

Posted by: Presidental Policy Advisor Mufti Mujahid Tamerlane Salahuddin Jihad Mohammed Mahmoud at May 10, 2013 06:15 AM (sOtz/)

163 Indeed. But to what end? Why decrease security? What was to be gained? It's not like a Democrat would ever be concerned about spending tax money. Something was going on. Something intentional. Posted by: toby928 at May 10, 2013 10:03 AM (evdj2) My view is they decreased security to show that Obama's foreign policy in muslim countries was working. Of course, decreasing security went contrary to the facts on the ground, but in their minds they could use it as a talking point: "See, everything is so awesome that we were able to decrease security."

Posted by: Mainah at May 10, 2013 06:15 AM (659DL)

164

Perhaps the Washington Post can explain to everyone why they thought it was a HUGE cover-up when the Nixon WH erased 18 minutes of tape regarding Watergate, but not a cover-up when the Obama WH scrubs a CIA report TWELVE TIMES.

Posted by: girldog at May 10, 2013 06:15 AM (i/s89)

165 Because all people know about Watergate is that it was bad. Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at May 10, 2013 10:14 AM (eMP2S) But see, if it wasn't for a curious Forrest Gump, they would have never been caught.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at May 10, 2013 06:15 AM (XIxXP)

166 So... Petraeus..... http://www.weeklystandard.com/articles/benghazi-scandal-grows_722032.html Odd timing on that resignation, huh?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 10, 2013 06:15 AM (piMMO)

167
I have failed utterly in my satire.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at May 10, 2013 10:09 AM (eMP2S)

Your paladin obviously didn't have a high enough Charisma.

Posted by: grognard at May 10, 2013 06:16 AM (/29Nl)

168 Indeed. But to what end? Why decrease security? What was to be gained? It's not like a Democrat would ever be concerned about spending tax money.

Something was going on. Something intentional.

Posted by: toby928 at May 10, 2013 10:03 AM (evdj2)

JMO - this was all part and parcel of Susan Rice's strategy of making nice to the Muslims as they took over northern Africa, hoping they would be friends with us. A consulate in Benghazi bristling with heavily armed Marines and razor wire fences was not the image she wanted to project. Chris Stevens was made Ambassador because Hillary and Rice thought he was popular with the locals, despite the fact he was openly gay.

These naive fools thought they could catch more flies with honey than vinegar in Libya. Their naivete got Chris Stevens and 3 other Americans killed.

Posted by: rockmom at May 10, 2013 06:16 AM (aBlZ1)

169 Good God, what is this country coming to if the news media starts doing its job *** it only took them 8 months!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 10, 2013 06:16 AM (piMMO)

170 White House emails reviewed by ABC News suggest... This comes dangerously close to advocacy.

Posted by: CBS at May 10, 2013 06:18 AM (FcR7P)

171 Your paladin obviously didn't have a high enough Charisma. It was a failed save.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at May 10, 2013 06:18 AM (eMP2S)

172 it only took them 8 months! Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 10, 2013 10:16 AM (piMMO) To be fair, I'm guessing someone in the State Dept/CIA/somewhere got recent courage and sent the docs to ABC. These docs are extremely damaging compared to previous info(as these docs are first-hand accounts of lying).

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at May 10, 2013 06:18 AM (52n2x)

173 #146 Well that didn't work out the way you planned. I wonder what the President's security detail is thinking right now? Would they be at risk if a human sacrifice would help Obama and Hillary? Just think, an aborted assassination attempt right now, that results in the death of a couple of secret service agents would sure get Obama the sympathy vote. And provide a nice distraction. At this point, if I were one of Obama's or Hillary children I'd be worried too.

Posted by: Jack at May 10, 2013 06:18 AM (Zv1QB)

174 Good God, what is this country coming to if the news media starts doing its job There not doing their job. They are using the incompetence angle to cover the criminality. The Administration has this table topped with the media to the end.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at May 10, 2013 06:18 AM (XIxXP)

175 Indeed. But to what end? Why decrease security? What was to be gained? It's not like a Democrat would ever be concerned about spending tax money. Posted by: Mainah at May 10, 2013 10:15 AM .........................The Dems and the press (yeah I know) have already ran that one up the flag pole "Republican Budget Cuts Hurt Security". What they of course won't tell you is that it wasn't a cut and State still had money to spend on statues and flowers and shit. So it was merely money they had for security but CHOSE to spend elsewhere. A friend tried to go their and I shut him down ASAP. He changed the subject quickly.

Posted by: Rosanne C_nt Punt Barr at May 10, 2013 06:19 AM (bXdYS)

176

I guess its just my conscience, but how they can meet those coffins and tell those lies after seeing those families is beyond me.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 10, 2013 06:19 AM (jKWYf)

177 These people are fundamentally incompetent. What has Hillary ever done successfully? Seriously, can you thing of one legislative coup she ever pulled off? Remember her health care debacle? What did she do as a senator? Nothing.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 10, 2013 10:11 AM (g1DWB)

I may be in a minority on this but I can't imagine Rodham running. She looks like a drunk trainwreck despite having a budget that could at least pay somebody well to ensure that she is at least as presentable as she was as first lady. I hate to play amateur shrink because the real ones do so badly, but I can't imagine that she isn't depressed about being such a fuckup (because unlike the JEF, I think she has a shred of a conscience which she willfully ignores in making every decision and it's still around when it blows up in her face), having really nothing noteworthy as a lasting legacy and having a husband who is trying to bang anybody but her. Plus compared to Slick she's extremely awkward as a campaigner (Slick gets a lot of credit but I regard him as a carney hustler whose snake oil bullshit would never work on me) and doesn't seem to enjoy it at all.

Posted by: Captain Hate at May 10, 2013 06:20 AM (2HHMh)

178 146 Okay 104 was me. I was making an analogy between National Review's spirited defense of Meghan McCain and the hope her marine brother would beat us all up with confronting another woman who would have cimbat-capable people nearby. I have failed utterly in my satire. Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at May 10, 2013 10:09 AM (eMP2S) Your satire succeeded. Their humor recognition software failed.

Posted by: Buzzion at May 10, 2013 06:20 AM (ueOH8)

179 Off chubby bitter sock!

Posted by: Minnfidel at May 10, 2013 06:20 AM (bXdYS)

180 I guess its just my conscience, but how they can meet those coffins and tell those lies after seeing those families is beyond me. Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 10, 2013 10:19 AM (jKWYf) If you can be complicit in Murder, you can lie rather easily.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at May 10, 2013 06:20 AM (XIxXP)

181 Because of the overwhelming tilt of public education, academia, entertainment, and "news" media, the Road to Oceania will always be open whenever a Demoocrat is in power, unless things are forced to change. Therefore, since, by the laws of probability, if the experiment is repeated often enough we actually will arrive at that destination, prepare.

Posted by: T. at May 10, 2013 06:21 AM (QmQ3n)

182 Did anyone see Crowder's Benghazi video with Andrew Klavan?

I LOLed.

http://www.youtube.com/user/ StevenCrowder

Posted by: grognard at May 10, 2013 06:21 AM (/29Nl)

183 The incompetence is bad, but it's Stand Down that is where the most outrage should be directed.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at May 10, 2013 10:06 AM (da5Wo)

-----------------------------

All this horseshit Leon Panetta is peddling about "Well, gee, we can't send anybody if we don't know what exactly is going on..."

Fuck all that. These cowardly bureaucratic shitweasels and sniveling diplo-dicks don't understand the United States warrior ethos. AT ALL.

Here's a brief survey of branch and unit mottoes:

"This We'll Defend" - US Army

"Send Me" - 2nd Brigade Combat Team, 3rd ID(M)

"That Others May Live" - Air Force PJs

"Always Faithful" - Marine Corps

"Anything, Anytime, Anywhere" - 7th SFG

"Let's Go" - 11th Cav

See any pattern here? I guarantee you, any soldier, Marine, airman, sailor or special operator, active duty, attached or inactive when faced with Americans under attack immediately starts marching to the sound of the guns.

And what do the fucking cowards in our administration do?

NOTHING.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at May 10, 2013 06:21 AM (CJjw5)

184 This will most certainly cause the Obama administration to crumble.

Posted by: Dick Morris at May 10, 2013 06:22 AM (jucos)

185 Aw c'mon guys. Benghazi was a long time ago. Of course they're still blaming a guy who hasn't been in power for 5 years, but you know. context and shit.

Posted by: Minnfidel at May 10, 2013 06:22 AM (bXdYS)

186 Posted by: Jack at May 10, 2013 10:18 AM (Zv1QB) Too risky. Just call up Beyonce and have her announce she farted.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at May 10, 2013 06:22 AM (eMP2S)

187 >>My view is they decreased security to show that Obama's foreign policy in muslim countries was working. Of course, decreasing security went contrary to the facts on the ground, but in their minds they could use it as a talking point: "See, everything is so awesome that we were able to decrease security." Yep. Remember, Obama wasn't running on the economy last fall, he was running on his "Smart Power" success in kill Osama and al Qaeda. And admission that he was actually failing was not allowed. It's not a real stretch to think that liberals would lie and hide the truth to achieve their goals. That's what they do.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 10, 2013 06:23 AM (g1DWB)

188

In order to protect cultural diversity and for the US to fulfill its international human rights obligations, perhaps it is time for people to understand that insulting a great religious figure like the Prophet of Islam is exactly like shouting fire in a crowded theater.

BAM!

That one always confuses the mushrikun kafir dogs.

Is this mike still on?

Posted by: Imam Sayf al-Dawla Islam of the Dar al-Hijra al-Harb Jizya Razzia Dhimma Institute for Peace at Harv at May 10, 2013 06:23 AM (sOtz/)

189 The comments by libs on this story are so predictable. "Bush this Bush that. It's only political." These people are mindless drones brainlessly spewing whatever they're told to say

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 10, 2013 06:23 AM (1Jaio)

190 My view is they decreased security to show that Obama's foreign policy in muslim countries was working. Of course, decreasing security went contrary to the facts on the ground, but in their minds they could use it as a talking point: "See, everything is so awesome that we were able to decrease security." Posted by: Mainah at May 10, 2013 10:15 AM (659DL) Yes...in the spirit if "if we build it they will come:" If we pretend all is kumbya, there will be peace, harmony and the disenfranchised youths of the peaceful religion will see our mission of extending the hand of freedom." Instead, they took that hand and burned them with mortars. This entire WH Administration is about image, similar to Hollywood or a TV set. Subterfuge. Cosmetics slapped on the corpse. Eventually the sun shines and the fake collapses like the house of cards they are. Hang in there, y'all. Hold the line.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Sarcastic and Radicalized Redneck Queen at May 10, 2013 06:24 AM (baL2B)

191 #182 Once you realize that other people don't matter except to the extent that they further your goals it's easy peasy lemon squeezy. Watching their pained expressions as you lie right to their face, though, that's one of the perks of the job. We really like that part.

Posted by: Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton at May 10, 2013 06:24 AM (Zv1QB)

192 I guess its just my conscience, but how they can meet those coffins and tell those lies after seeing those families is beyond me. *** I watched the entire ceremony again last week and thought two things, that my heart would burst from sorrow for the families and for the terror experienced by the dead and that my arteries would explode from anger. Just try watching that ceremony again, knowing what you now know.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 10, 2013 06:25 AM (piMMO)

193 This will most certainly cause the Obama administration to crumble. Posted by: Dick Morris Crap. We're boned.

Posted by: toby928 at May 10, 2013 06:25 AM (evdj2)

194 Sock size check

Posted by: Imam Sayf al-Dawla Islam of the Dar al-Hijra Dhimma Institute for Peace at Harvard U at May 10, 2013 06:25 AM (sOtz/)

195 What makes you think most morons read NRO, outside of Steyn, to get the joke?

Posted by: andycanuck at May 10, 2013 06:25 AM (mGBy8)

196 The comments by libs on this story are so predictable. "Bush this Bush that. It's only political." These people are mindless drones brainlessly spewing whatever they're told to say *** Leslie Marshall was spinning her ass off on Hannity last night: Bush lied about WMDs!!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 10, 2013 06:25 AM (piMMO)

197 Ok, do you think that this going to hurt me?

Posted by: John Kerry, Secretary of State at May 10, 2013 06:26 AM (Zv1QB)

198 14. Just sayin.

Posted by: Minnfidel at May 10, 2013 06:26 AM (bXdYS)

199 The Cankles are a lie.

Posted by: dananjcon at May 10, 2013 06:26 AM (jvd3N)

200 Oh, and link dump up

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 10, 2013 06:26 AM (piMMO)

201 Valerie Plame was a big deal to the left. Let that one sink in.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at May 10, 2013 06:27 AM (eMP2S)

202 We are shocked, SHOCKED! that Obama and Hillary are lying. It just can't be possible.

Posted by: The MSM at May 10, 2013 06:29 AM (Zv1QB)

203 This thread already dead? It's a BFD.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at May 10, 2013 06:33 AM (52n2x)

204 I may be in a minority on this but I can't imagine Rodham running. She looks like a drunk trainwreck despite having a budget that could at least pay somebody well to ensure that she is at least as presentable as she was as first lady. I hate to play amateur shrink because the real ones do so badly, but I can't imagine that she isn't depressed about being such a fuckup (because unlike the JEF, I think she has a shred of a conscience which she willfully ignores in making every decision and it's still around when it blows up in her face), having really nothing noteworthy as a lasting legacy and having a husband who is trying to bang anybody but her. Plus compared to Slick she's extremely awkward as a campaigner (Slick gets a lot of credit but I regard him as a carney hustler whose snake oil bullshit would never work on me) and doesn't seem to enjoy it at all. Posted by: Captain Hate at May 10, 2013 10:20 AM (2HHMh) Agree. Somewhere in her little mind she sort of, kind of, feels badly for the deaths. She has one kid she cares about. But she also cares about image. And she knows she blew it. Maybe not enough, in this mad world, to cause her to lose, as "what does it matter at this point, anyway?" Lying to protect yourself and image of party is sort of a Democrat version of mooslem Taqiyya, which we first saw, in it's parade finery, at Clinton's impeachment hearings and parsing the word, 'is." Find the video of her accepting the job of Secretary of State for The Won. Her face was bright red and she look madder than a wet hen. Bill was, of course, glowing at her side as he loves any camera pointing at him. I will always believe she was forced into this job by the Dem machine, and she wanted no part of the legacy of The Won. She knew his secrets and he knew the Clinton's. It was a mutual contract of "we will work together to achieve our socialist dreams and not rag on each other." She is going down with ship, tried to bail (and, if memory serves, her retirement was planned prior to Benghazi). But it happened under her watch, she took the fall, and the truth is now revealed. Hold the line, Morons. While it is Friday, and therefore a slow news day, as I saw early on in this battle at the WaPo battlefields, all they can do is blame Bush an shriek "right-wing" and stuff like that. You could tell from the last hearing all they have is " budget cuts from those dastardly Republicans caused lack of security." The problem is, the State Dept's Charlene Lamb, in first hearing, denied this as a reason." They are boxed into a corner, they know it, and they are freaking out.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Sarcastic and Radicalized Redneck Queen at May 10, 2013 06:35 AM (baL2B)

205 Haven't read the comment thread thoroughly. But Mark Steyn had a good say for Dems to consider on Hugh Hewitt -- basically the hardheartedness with which their friend Chris was sacrificed on the altar of Clinton-Obama and the continuing lie even over the coffin. http://tinyurl.com/cy4hdtj

Posted by: gracepmc at May 10, 2013 06:36 AM (rznx3)

206 203 What makes you think most morons read NRO, outside of Steyn, to get the joke? Posted by: andycanuck at May 10, 2013 10:25 AM (mGBy

It got covered in the top headlines thread pretty well

Posted by: Buzzion at May 10, 2013 06:44 AM (ueOH8)

207 Damn you masochist morons. Nood been up for awhile.

Posted by: RWC at May 10, 2013 06:46 AM (fWAjv)

208 Freude, schÃ¶ner GÃ¶tterfunken,
Tochter aus Elysium,
Wir betreten feuer-trunken,
Himmlische, dein Heiligtum!

Listen to my words, scum! Fear the rape inherent in the music!

Posted by: Ludwig Beethoven, Classical Rapey-Rapist at May 10, 2013 06:46 AM (oVEkA)

209 Fuck the NRO and every RINO there. With a rusty saw.

Posted by: SurferDoc at May 10, 2013 06:47 AM (6H6FZ)

210 211 This thread already dead?

It's a BFD.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at May 10, 2013 10:33 AM (52n2x)

"Thread" and "Dead" are such strong words. We prefer to say it was "terminated", and it was just a clump of letters anyway.

Posted by: Planned Parenthood at May 10, 2013 06:47 AM (i/s89)

211 214 203 What makes you think most morons read NRO, outside of Steyn, to get the joke?
Posted by: andycanuck at May 10, 2013 10:25 AM (mGBy

It got covered in the top headlines thread pretty well

Posted by: Buzzion at May 10, 2013 10:44 AM (ueOH

Well, that takes care of that.

Posted by: gracepmc at May 10, 2013 07:01 AM (rznx3)

212 So basically, they spent 12 times more time fixing what their 'story' was going to be than, you know, actually sending some fucking HELP!

Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262© at May 10, 2013 07:07 AM (UU0OF)

213 they have CIA whistle blowers to come, bank on it

Posted by: Thunderb at May 10, 2013 07:17 AM (nH8jP)

214 Maybe there were numorous grammer and spelling errors that needed to be corrected.

Posted by: Ignoramous at May 10, 2013 07:22 AM (R8X+X)

215 WASHINGTON (AP) Â— The Internal Revenue Service inappropriately flagged conservative political groups for additional reviews during the 2012 election to see if they were violating their tax-exempt status, a top IRS official said Friday.

Organizations were singled out because they included the words "tea party" or "patriot" in their applications for tax-exempt status, said Lois Lerner, who heads the IRS division that oversees tax-exempt groups.

In some cases, groups were asked for their list of donors, which violates IRS policy in most cases, she said.

"That was wrong. That was absolutely incorrect, it was insensitive and it was inappropriate. That's not how we go about selecting cases for further review," Lerner said at a conference sponsored by the American Bar Association.

"The IRS would like to apologize for that," she added.

Lerner said the practice was initiated by low-level workers in Cincinnati and was not motivated by political bias. After her talk, she told The AP that no high level IRS officials knew about the practice.

Agency officials found out about the practice last year and moved to correct it, the IRS said in a statement. The statement did not specify when officials found out.

About 75 groups were inappropriately targeted. None had their tax-exempt status revoked, Lerner said.

Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky called on the White House to investigate.

... taking bets that nobody was fired over this breech of IRS policy.

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at May 10, 2013 10:23 AM (e8kgV)

216 About 75 groups were inappropriately targeted. None had their tax-exempt status revoked, Lerner said.

... I'm sure that the IRS will now investigate a matching number of Progressive organizations, starting with Organizing For Assholes

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at May 10, 2013 10:24 AM (e8kgV)

217 It's amazing how Democrat administrations abuse the loyalty of their supporters to the point of destroying them. Just as Bill Clinton destroyed the credibility of the feminists and split NOW ( see Tammy Bruce), Obama is now splitting the press in the same way. It is interesting to see at what point different reporters notice their credibility evaporating. Or even which ones notice and care.

Posted by: Donavo nPfeiffer at May 10, 2013 10:52 AM (Oj3nO)

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