April 23, 2013
— Ace "Phase 2" is Marvel studio's name for the next series of movies in the Marvel Cinematic Universe, which will include Iron Man 3, Thor 2, Captain America 2, and a Guardians of the Galaxy film (that's some extra-terrestrial superhero team, I believe) film before bringing the gang back together for Avengers 2, which will include the cosmic villain Thantos (or whatever) and probably some of the Guardians of the Galaxy too. Though I imagine they'll be featured players.
Marvel producers talk as if these films will all be linked, somehow, sort of like the last series of movies were. (Actually they were mostly linked by Easter Eggs and post-credit bonus clips, but hey, those still count as links.)
I have to note that Marvel has built a billion dollar franchise with its secondary characters, the ones they didn't sell to other studios. Their real top draws are the X-Men and Spiderman; those properties have been sold. But they're making billions by making solid popcorn movies about second-stringers. Iron Man and Thor are sort of the B+ team, not the real A team, and frankly I wouldn't be able to tell you who the hell the Guardians of the Galaxy are if I hadn't read the Marvel team previewing them. ("They'll be led by Star-Fox!," I'm breathlessly told, as if those words contain any meaning in them.)
Hell, they're even doing Ant-Man for Phase 3. Ant-Man. Whose power is shrinking and communicating with... ants.
Aquaman laughs at Ant-Man. Update: Test footage -- a demonstration clip -- of Ant-Man. In this brief clip, you see him using his power to alternately shrink and then grow back to full size to punch up a couple of extras from The Matrix.
So here's Thor 2, in which Thor teams up with Loki to stop... I don't know, they're called Dark Elves or something. I notice they don't say "Dark Elves" in the trailer. Prudent of them. We have to preserve some sense of dignity. Going to a movie where we're told right up front is about Dark Elves would deny us that figleaf of dignity.
Over at Hot Air, Allah grouses about superhero movies again.
Exit question: Aren't these movies the Star Wars of the twenty-aughts and twenty-teens? It's a fictional universe in which Guardians with Special Powers maintain Peace and Order in the Galaxy. Isn't Captain America just a Jedi with a high-tech shield instead of a high-tech sword?
Isn't Iron Man just Chaotic Good Boba Fett?
Isn't Jarvis just disembodied C3PO?
And isn't the Hulk just Gamma-Wookie?
Discuss.
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I'll be interested in seeing if they use Rocket Raccoon of course...
Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at April 23, 2013 01:53 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: mallfly at April 23, 2013 01:53 PM (bJm7W)
Phase 2...?
That's those weapons that SHIELD was building from the Teseract.
Will they be using those?
Posted by: wheatie at April 23, 2013 01:54 PM (T1BD9)
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at April 23, 2013 01:54 PM (RZ8pf)
Posted by: mallfly at April 23, 2013 01:54 PM (bJm7W)
It is really an important event.
Posted by: willow at April 23, 2013 01:54 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Rory at April 23, 2013 01:56 PM (7rd2m)
Posted by: dark elf at April 23, 2013 01:56 PM (ffVFJ)
Posted by: Flyguy at April 23, 2013 01:56 PM (BeFHp)
Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at April 23, 2013 01:57 PM (feFL6)
Posted by: BumperStickerist at April 23, 2013 01:57 PM (19AvL)
Isn't Iron Man just Chaotic Good Boba Fett?
Discuss.
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I couldn't even begin to. Even if you threatened to set my cat on fire.
Posted by: mama winger, maybe today at April 23, 2013 01:57 PM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at April 23, 2013 01:57 PM (RZ8pf)
Strong stories are what makes some movies enduring, not special effects.
Posted by: wg at April 23, 2013 01:57 PM (NeDpV)
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at April 23, 2013 01:57 PM (tnXia)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 23, 2013 01:57 PM (sA52w)
Heh......I loved it when tapper bitched at me for waking him up at 2AM raiding his garbage cams last fall....
"salvage expert"
ah good times in a happier day when i still had hope
Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at April 23, 2013 01:57 PM (LRFds)
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Nope. Ultimately these superhero movies take place in contemporary times, which is not the imaginary play-space that young boys want to live in.
Posted by: Serious Cat at April 23, 2013 01:58 PM (UypUQ)
well a 'were-wolf" that looks like an Ewok with Tits...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolfsbane_%28comics%29
Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at April 23, 2013 01:58 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: mama winger, maybe today at April 23, 2013 01:58 PM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: Serious Cat at April 23, 2013 01:59 PM (UypUQ)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 23, 2013 01:59 PM (sA52w)
Posted by: Bete resigned to just watching the world burn at April 23, 2013 01:59 PM (8kIXE)
We were all thinking it.
Posted by: Dr Spank at April 23, 2013 05:59 PM (4cRnj)
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I was trying to be polite and come at it obliquely.
Posted by: mama winger, maybe today at April 23, 2013 02:00 PM (P6QsQ)
Just because boba fett has some weird suit on, that doesn't compare in the least to Iron Man. Iron Man is awesome, boba fett...is not.
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at April 23, 2013 02:00 PM (RZ8pf)
Posted by: California Red at April 23, 2013 02:00 PM (aCD1U)
Posted by: Bete resigned to just watching the world burn at April 23, 2013 02:01 PM (8kIXE)
Posted by: BumperStickerist at April 23, 2013 02:02 PM (19AvL)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 23, 2013 02:02 PM (sA52w)
The hawtness of Thor is wasted on Natalie Portman.
Looks like they might be killing off 'Jane' in this one.
Thor will be...devastated.
I volunteer to console him.
Posted by: wheatie at April 23, 2013 02:02 PM (T1BD9)
Posted by: Herbert Hymengawker at April 23, 2013 02:02 PM (+iA5G)
Thor got skinny though. I preferred him beefier like in the first movie.
I am proud of my nerdiness. Or geekiness. Or whatever the cool kids are calling it these days.
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at April 23, 2013 02:03 PM (RZ8pf)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 23, 2013 02:03 PM (sA52w)
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at April 23, 2013 02:04 PM (RZ8pf)
WTF were you fanboys jerking off on the way to the theater over?
That?
It stunk.
None of it made sense. Never mind the huge "oh hell, we'll just pull this idea out of our asses to save the Earth" at the end.
So tired of the "aliens are going to conquer the Earth with air cavalry and ground troops."
Posted by: RoyalOil at April 23, 2013 02:04 PM (VjL9S)
Posted by: BumperStickerist at April 23, 2013 02:04 PM (19AvL)
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at April 23, 2013 06:03 PM (RZ8pf)
Hey PGiS...you still watching 'Lost Girl'?
Posted by: wheatie at April 23, 2013 02:05 PM (T1BD9)
I don't know, I remember when Kiss linked all their individual albums. There was poor writing there too.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 23, 2013 02:05 PM (jKWYf)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 23, 2013 02:05 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Dr Spank at April 23, 2013 02:05 PM (4cRnj)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 23, 2013 02:06 PM (sA52w)
Posted by: Mayor McCheese at April 23, 2013 02:06 PM (/V1dY)
Posted by: mama winger, maybe today at April 23, 2013 06:00 PM (P6QsQ)
You're always welcome at the "'Ettes of the Moron Horde" group on Ravelry when a topic here isn't interesting.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, assault Hobbit at April 23, 2013 02:06 PM (wbeNt)
Posted by: Lincolntf at April 23, 2013 02:06 PM (ZshNr)
Posted by: zsasz at April 23, 2013 02:06 PM (MMC8r)
They have no right to be. Yet they are.
Posted by: Jeff B. at April 23, 2013 02:07 PM (/Rmj0)
Posted by: Lincolntf at April 23, 2013 06:06 PM (ZshNr)
So can erg, sort of. As long as you want a dung beetle.
Posted by: maddogg at April 23, 2013 02:07 PM (OlN4e)
http://tinyurl.com/c58sbvg
Posted by: maddogg at April 23, 2013 06:04 PM (OlN4e)
Am I right to assume the reason these crazy studies get funded is that congress allocates a general pool of monies to "science research" but that a board of bureaucrats later pick these studies out of a pile of applications, ranging from useful to nuts?
Posted by: Serious Cat at April 23, 2013 02:08 PM (UypUQ)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 23, 2013 02:08 PM (sA52w)
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at April 23, 2013 02:08 PM (xjpRj)
Posted by: waldo at April 23, 2013 02:08 PM (y2XjR)
Posted by: Professor Marius Von Totenkopf (formerly Hoss Fuentes) at April 23, 2013 02:08 PM (vLH7V)
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at April 23, 2013 02:09 PM (RZ8pf)
Posted by: zsasz at April 23, 2013 02:09 PM (MMC8r)
60 Why does a fucking Norse god have a faux British accent?
I think they are trying to make him seem....'lofty'.
Posted by: wheatie at April 23, 2013 02:09 PM (T1BD9)
Is Iron Man a bounty hunter?
No.
Is Boba Fett a super-engineer, capitalist, playboy?
No.
How is this even a question?
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at April 23, 2013 02:09 PM (5Hl3g)
Posted by: zsasz at April 23, 2013 06:06 PM (MMC8r)
Actor who plays Loki is British.
Posted by: Serious Cat at April 23, 2013 02:09 PM (UypUQ)
I blame the JJ, everything has to be too mysterious by half these days. . .
Posted by: LizLem at April 23, 2013 02:09 PM (8wqqE)
Posted by: booger at April 23, 2013 02:09 PM (HI6wa)
Posted by: Big Hairy Dude at April 23, 2013 02:10 PM (19AvL)
Thor versus the Dark Elves....with his +5 Hammer of Thunderbolts.
Yes, I do think we have reached maximum nerd density....
Posted by: Pave Low John at April 23, 2013 02:10 PM (Uaj5o)
Posted by: Mac Gootbone at April 23, 2013 02:10 PM (wA0Xb)
Posted by: waldo at April 23, 2013 02:10 PM (y2XjR)
Posted by: Jack at April 23, 2013 02:10 PM (Zv1QB)
Posted by: ace at April 23, 2013 02:11 PM (LCRYB)
Posted by: The Dude at April 23, 2013 02:11 PM (vJdyz)
Posted by: logprof at April 23, 2013 02:11 PM (+iA5G)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 23, 2013 02:11 PM (0UdgH)
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, assault Hobbit at April 23, 2013 06:06 PM (wbeNt)
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Thanks Polliwog for the kind invite. I actually am pretend working. I'm pretending I'm waiting for a file to upload but I'm really hanging out here. Don't tell.
Posted by: mama winger, maybe today at April 23, 2013 02:11 PM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 23, 2013 02:12 PM (Hw3Gh)
oh come on, Tony Stark is the ladies man rebel, that's Han Solo. He has cool stuff, Han Solo has the cool spaceship. Tony Stark knows all the wretched hives of scum and villiany, so does Han Solo.
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at April 23, 2013 02:13 PM (RZ8pf)
Posted by: logprof at April 23, 2013 06:11 PM (+iA5G)
My personal favorite.
Posted by: maddogg at April 23, 2013 02:13 PM (OlN4e)
Posted by: Michael the Hobbit at April 23, 2013 02:13 PM (hzV1U)
Posted by: Buzzion at April 23, 2013 02:13 PM (bxzIe)
plus he murdered captain America indirectly and he is a guardian of the galaxy a lush and a dictatorial control freak....
*shudder*
Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at April 23, 2013 02:14 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: Serious Cat at April 23, 2013 02:14 PM (UypUQ)
73...Actor who plays Loki is British.
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And so is the actor who plays Odin.
Chris Hemsworth/Thor...is Australian, so his accent is probably not much of a stretch for him.
Posted by: wheatie at April 23, 2013 02:14 PM (T1BD9)
Portion of the Comic-Con Ant-Man test footage:
http://tinyurl.com/csspgq8
The slighly longer full clip appears to have been DMC'd back into the shadows.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 23, 2013 02:14 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 23, 2013 02:14 PM (sA52w)
Posted by: Dr Spank at April 23, 2013 02:14 PM (4cRnj)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 23, 2013 02:15 PM (0UdgH)
"Isn't Iron Man just Chaotic Good Boba Fett?" means "When I was eight years old I was blowing bubbles and chasing them across my ballet teacher's yard while I waited for him to finish filling a bath for me and I tripped over a pink cupcake I had set down in the sunny grass for the bunnies to have because I was full after just a bite and I was falling through a rainbow! then my testes were wrenched off by a sprinkler head and that's why my voice is like this."
Posted by: oblig. at April 23, 2013 02:15 PM (cePv8)
Posted by: Professor Marius Von Totenkopf (formerly Hoss Fuentes) at April 23, 2013 02:15 PM (vLH7V)
You do know that Warner owns DC, right? The failure of the DC movies have all been on Warner doing a shit job on adapting them into live action (which always amused me as they've done a great job with the cartoons).
Posted by: The Dude at April 23, 2013 02:15 PM (vJdyz)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 23, 2013 02:16 PM (GEICT)
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Ahhhhh ..... yes, I see. It all makes sense now. Thanks!
Posted by: mama winger, maybe today at April 23, 2013 02:16 PM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: mallfly at April 23, 2013 02:16 PM (bJm7W)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 23, 2013 06:11 PM (0UdgH)
which is a shame as Grant Morrison did a great job in rebooting the character
Posted by: The Dude at April 23, 2013 02:17 PM (vJdyz)
Posted by: zsasz at April 23, 2013 02:18 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: NJRob at April 23, 2013 02:18 PM (FVp26)
Posted by: zsasz at April 23, 2013 02:18 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: dum dum at April 23, 2013 02:18 PM (+iA5G)
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Sure, blame the pink cupcake.Posted by: tasker at April 23, 2013 02:19 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: Professor Marius Von Totenkopf (formerly Hoss Fuentes) at April 23, 2013 02:19 PM (vLH7V)
Of course not. He's Marvel's Han Solo, or possibly Lando Calrissian.
Boba Fett looks cool, but that's it. In the original trilogy you can count his lines on one hand.
Posted by: Matt at April 23, 2013 02:20 PM (GiQtg)
Posted by: mama winger, maybe today at April 23, 2013 02:20 PM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: mama winger, maybe today at April 23, 2013 06:20 PM (P6QsQ)
well, yeah
Posted by: The Dude at April 23, 2013 02:20 PM (vJdyz)
Posted by: zsasz at April 23, 2013 06:18 PM (MMC8r)
Technically, I think it may be beastiality and/or xenophilia.
Posted by: Professor Marius Von Totenkopf (formerly Hoss Fuentes) at April 23, 2013 06:19 PM (vLH7V)
Word.
Posted by: Baraka at April 23, 2013 02:20 PM (+iA5G)
Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie © at April 23, 2013 02:20 PM (BDH94)
Going back to read about Hillary's perjury, which is what I am interested in.
Have fun with Thor and Ant-Man.
Posted by: Miss Marple at April 23, 2013 02:21 PM (GoIUi)
Posted by: Professor Marius Von Totenkopf (formerly Hoss Fuentes) at April 23, 2013 02:21 PM (vLH7V)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 23, 2013 02:21 PM (sA52w)
Because she's hot!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 23, 2013 06:21 PM (/WLC3)
Kat Dennings
Posted by: The Dude at April 23, 2013 02:22 PM (vJdyz)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 23, 2013 02:22 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie © at April 23, 2013 02:23 PM (BDH94)
Posted by: Professor Marius Von Totenkopf (formerly Hoss Fuentes) at April 23, 2013 02:23 PM (vLH7V)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 23, 2013 02:23 PM (sA52w)
Depends. Stark is an alcoholic.
Yes.
There's a reason why you should leave the drinking to the professionals: we wouldn't hit a sandy vajayjay. Just not nearly enough booze in the universe. Amateurs, like the Fett on the other hand...
Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie © at April 23, 2013 06:20 PM (BDH94)
--Are you sure? A colleague of mine was at a conference in Finland and went out drinking with some Russians. One of them said offhandendly, "In Russia, there are no ugly women. Only not enough vodka!"
Posted by: logprof at April 23, 2013 02:23 PM (+iA5G)
Posted by: The Dude at April 23, 2013 06:20 PM (vJdyz)
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Because I could recite you every scene, every character, every actor, every relationship, every scheme in "All My Children" from 1971 to 2011, and it would sound exactly the same way as what you guys are talking about. Just substitute "Susan Lucci" for "Antman". Same thing.
Posted by: mama winger, maybe today at April 23, 2013 02:23 PM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: TB at April 23, 2013 06:20 PM (0Ez44)The same guy who voiced the original, Brian Dennehy.
Posted by: Serious Cat at April 23, 2013 02:23 PM (UypUQ)
Posted by: Fritz at April 23, 2013 02:24 PM (UzPAd)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 23, 2013 02:24 PM (0UdgH)
twenty-teens? It's a fictional universe in which Guardians with Special
Powers maintain Peace and Order in the Galaxy. Is Captain America so
different than a Jedi?
Eh, I enjoyed The Dark Knight trilogy a little more so far, but will see what Marvel does. Maybe Lord of the Rings fits this description more accurately for my generation but the point is everyone's different. I'm sure there were kids back in those times that enjoyed Alien more or Star Trek more than Star Wars. I'm not a huge fan of claiming something represents a generation, I think those assumptions are kind of lazy.
Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at April 23, 2013 02:24 PM (oBhEo)
Huh. That's really stupid.
Especially when the cube thing they want is right f'ing below their portal to Earth.
Real Evil Aliens would say, "So long, dumbass!" as the first thing they would have done is take the stupid cube thing and not even bother with the kill all the ants first part.
Posted by: RoyalOil at April 23, 2013 02:25 PM (VjL9S)
Posted by: I'm The Juggernaut at April 23, 2013 02:25 PM (/V1dY)
Posted by: mallfly at April 23, 2013 02:25 PM (bJm7W)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 23, 2013 02:25 PM (sA52w)
Posted by: Comrade Arthur at April 23, 2013 02:26 PM (vHxiM)
Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at April 23, 2013 02:26 PM (feFL6)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 23, 2013 02:26 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Dr Spank at April 23, 2013 02:27 PM (4cRnj)
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at April 23, 2013 02:27 PM (RZ8pf)
Posted by: ace at April 23, 2013 02:27 PM (LCRYB)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 23, 2013 02:28 PM (sA52w)
Posted by: Jack Wagon at April 23, 2013 06:12 PM (Cs2tJ)
OK, Dad. Sheesh, it's only to the bottom of the ear and that's the way everyone wears it. Lighten up!
Posted by: olddog in mo at April 23, 2013 02:29 PM (A9na/)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 23, 2013 02:29 PM (0UdgH)
Posted by: Waldo Truth at April 23, 2013 02:29 PM (y2XjR)
And then sold it to Disney.
Posted by: Dr. Varno at April 23, 2013 02:29 PM (aj6ZZ)
Definitely not a traditional beauty, but there's a certain quality there......
Of course I was thinking of Jaimie Alexander, but hell, I don't mind looking at those sweater puppies.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 23, 2013 02:30 PM (/WLC3)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 23, 2013 02:30 PM (sA52w)
Posted by: zsasz at April 23, 2013 02:30 PM (MMC8r)
@81 In some cases these rights eventually revert. Frex, I think some movies, like the atrocious spider-man reboot and the new superman movie, are primarily made to keep the rights -- there's some clause about the rights reverting if no movie is made for X duration of time.
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The new Superman movie is being made by DC. The intent is that it'll be part of something that eventually links together (with Batman and Wonder Woman films) to create the foundation for a Justice League movie, just as Marvel has managed to do with The Avengers.
Posted by: junior at April 23, 2013 02:30 PM (UWFpX)
http://tinyurl.com/c5zy8fk
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 23, 2013 06:24 PM (0UdgH)
I'd like to Falco in her Corneria!
Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at April 23, 2013 02:30 PM (oBhEo)
From Two Broke Girls
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk
***
Certain pics of her are available online.
Posted by: Tilikum The Killer Assault Whale at April 23, 2013 02:31 PM (uhftQ)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 23, 2013 02:32 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: zsasz at April 23, 2013 02:32 PM (MMC8r)
Eh, worse comes to worse I just stare at Chris Hemsworth and Tom Hiddleston the whole film; there are worse things in life. Also Kat Dennings is getting a meatier role, yay!
Posted by: LizLem at April 23, 2013 02:32 PM (8wqqE)
Posted by: ace at April 23, 2013 06:27 PM (LCRYB)
Phew....I thought you were going to ban me for dancing on that line....
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 23, 2013 02:32 PM (/WLC3)
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I saw a compound bow. With explosive tipped arrows.
Which is stupid on multiple levels.
1) Arrows are slower than bullets
2) Explosive tipped arrows are way louder than guns
3) A quiver will always hold less arrows than nearly all guns
4) A bow is no where near as maneuverable as a gun in combat
5) The weakest gun still has a kill range far beyond the strongest bow
6) An old, bolt action will get of more rounds in the same time than a bowman.
Posted by: RoyalOil at April 23, 2013 02:33 PM (VjL9S)
Posted by: Comrade Arthur at April 23, 2013 02:34 PM (vHxiM)
Chaotic Good Boba Fett
color me impressed at the mixing of geekdom metaphors.
What'sa Gamma wookie?
Posted by: Gerry Owen at April 23, 2013 02:34 PM (4ABat)
Posted by: RoyalOil at April 23, 2013 06:33 PM (VjL9S)
Not if it detonates inside your chest.
Don't try to out-geek the Horde.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 23, 2013 02:35 PM (/WLC3)
Posted by: zsasz at April 23, 2013 02:37 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: keep it simple, stupid at April 23, 2013 02:37 PM (MhA4j)
Posted by: Hillary Clinton, wearing the Wonder-Woman costume than Huma gave her on Valentine's Day at April 23, 2013 02:39 PM (k4bdL)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 23, 2013 02:39 PM (XYSwB)
Posted by: Gerry Owen at April 23, 2013 06:34 PM (4ABat)
Not sure... I'm the alpha wookie.
Posted by: Moochelle at April 23, 2013 02:40 PM (hpYnL)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 23, 2013 06:15 PM (0UdgH)
What?!? Where?!?!
Better not involve kittens.... Or Burt.
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at April 23, 2013 02:40 PM (sGtp+)
Might as well trot out Cloak and Dagger. Or even worse Hawk and Dove.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 23, 2013 02:41 PM (0UdgH)
Posted by: Eaton Cox at April 23, 2013 02:41 PM (q177U)
Posted by: Big T Party at April 23, 2013 02:41 PM (WiQr+)
Posted by: zsasz at April 23, 2013 06:37 PM (MMC8r)
The Skrulls may have been sold with the Fantastic Four franchise as they were originally FF villains.
Posted by: mugiwara at April 23, 2013 02:41 PM (hpYnL)
Posted by: mama winger, maybe today at April 23, 2013 06:20 PM (P6QsQ)
Not too far off, tbh. In that vein, I always thought that Fantasy Football was just a giant Dungeons and Dragons-type game for sports fanatics who think they are too cool for RPG. Just because you add betting to it makes it in no ways less geeky. *runs away from the onslaught of the horde*
Posted by: LizLem at April 23, 2013 02:42 PM (8wqqE)
Posted by: Paladin at April 23, 2013 02:42 PM (ROXo4)
Posted by: We of the moons of Endor at April 23, 2013 02:43 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 23, 2013 06:39 PM (XYSwB)
would kill for a Moon Knight film but he sadly can't stay published. Which is a damn shame as a hardcore psychotic multiple personality superhero is ripe for the picking.
same with a Cloak and Dagger film
Posted by: The Dude at April 23, 2013 02:43 PM (vJdyz)
and what their story arc is and who their enemies are and who they've
been involved with, just reinforces my firm opinion that comics are soap
operas for guys.
Posted by: mama winger, maybe today at April 23, 2013 06:20 PM (P6QsQ)
Correct. See also: Shonen Anime, ie Dragonball Z
Posted by: mugiwara at April 23, 2013 02:43 PM (hpYnL)
Posted by: The Dude at April 23, 2013 02:44 PM (vJdyz)
Posted by: Lincolntf at April 23, 2013 02:45 PM (ZshNr)
Posted by: Half naked guy painted in his team colors and a rainbow wig at April 23, 2013 02:45 PM (MMC8r)
Isn't the Ant Man character schizoid?
Posted by: Dr. Varno at April 23, 2013 02:45 PM (aj6ZZ)
Dragonball Z is to anime what the original Fantastic Four movie is to cinema.
Climbs off soapbox.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 23, 2013 02:45 PM (0UdgH)
Posted by: Tilikum The Killer Assault Whale at April 23, 2013 02:46 PM (uhftQ)
Posted by: Big T Party at April 23, 2013 02:46 PM (WiQr+)
BREAKING: Chambliss: Law enforcement agency may have known about #Boston bombing in advance
http://tinyurl.com/bvwc7qo
Posted by: Tami[/i][/b][/u][/s] at April 23, 2013 02:47 PM (X6akg)
That soap lacked supernatural spunk.
Posted by: Luke & Laura, General Zombie Hospital at April 23, 2013 02:47 PM (I88Jc)
Warner Bros. doesn't have to worry about the rights reverting. They share a parent company with DC Comics. ANY DC movie project was always going to be a Warner operation.
The Marvel stuff floundered because they lacked a strong parent like Disney to make it all happen under one roof. With the Diney acquisition of Marvel that obviously changed dramatically.
And it isn't Star Fox. It's Star-Lord, a charcter who originally mainly seen in black and white magazine format stuff Marvel did in the 70s. That was also where the Punisher first had his own series, as they believed the black and white mags would allow for an older audience and stories better suited to the character than the Spider-man setting where he originated.
Just to complicate things, there was an entirely different Guardians of the Galaxy at Marvel in the 70s and 80s. That series was set 1,000 years in the future with one of the character being a very well preserved astronaut who was possibly the last living true human. All of the other characters were aliens or descended from altered human stock to adapt to colonizing planets that were otherwise uninhabitable. One of the members of that group was Starhawk. Yeah, another Star guy. Except when he was a hot chick. Who was his sister and somehow the mother of their three children who were somehow created despite the two of them sharing a body and only one being able to exist at a time.
It got really complicated and I never saw some issues.
Anyway, the more recent Guardians of the Galaxy were created largely to retain control of the name, and they were essentially a mish-mash of accumulated outer space characters Marvel had on hand who previously had little or no relation to each other.
Starfox made appearances but was never a member, never mind the leader. And he isn't called Star Fox anymore. He was originally named Eros and is Thanos' normal looking brother and all-around horndog. He has a certain amount of ability to make people, especially women, like him. And he likes being liked. There was a She-hulk story where she was his attorney when he stood accused of using his power to date rape half the women in the Marvel universe. Technically, this would include She-hulk too but she told herself that it wasn't really an issue since she'd bumped uglies with a pretty large assortment of the Marvel universe too and probably didn't need to be telepathically coerced.
Anyway, after Nintendo created a franchise under the Starfox name that was worth far more to them than the comics character was to Marvel, Marvel let it go and just called him Eros again.
Posted by: epobirs at April 23, 2013 02:47 PM (kcfmt)
Jessica Nigri takes a camera in to show how a toilet in the women's bathroom in Japan works.
http://youtu.be/IBE7Y0Q62KA
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 23, 2013 02:48 PM (0UdgH)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 23, 2013 02:49 PM (XYSwB)
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at April 23, 2013 02:49 PM (RZ8pf)
Posted by: An Observation at April 23, 2013 06:39 PM (ylhEn)
BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMMM!!!!!!
Posted by: Philadelphia Collins at April 23, 2013 02:50 PM (+iA5G)
Posted by: The Dude at April 23, 2013 02:51 PM (vJdyz)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 23, 2013 02:52 PM (XYSwB)
Dragonball Z is to anime what the original Fantastic Four movie is to cinema.
Climbs off soapbox.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 23, 2013 06:45 PM (0UdgH)
Lol! As huge a fan as I was of the FF, I never actually saw that original movie. Looks great for the luls though. And hey, DBZ might have been fillerific, but DB Kai seriously kicks ass, even if they had to cut the Goku and Piccolo get driver's licenses filler ep.
Posted by: mugiwara at April 23, 2013 02:53 PM (hpYnL)
From DC's "Dial H" comic that I just read about. "Captain Lachrymose – An "emo" who draws amazing physical strength from people's most traumatic memories, forcing them to experience an emotional breakdown."
Posted by: Lincolntf at April 23, 2013 02:55 PM (ZshNr)
Posted by: Staff at April 23, 2013 02:59 PM (G9qZk)
Not really a Superman villain. More universal than that. Kirby created him for an entirely new setting and after two attempts at Marvel took it to DC. Part of the problem for Marvel was that the Fourth World setting was supposed to be what arose after Ragnarok and the destruction of Asgard. He tried to redo the concept around the Inhumans, thinking it might be allowed as those characters were more expendable. After that, it finally sank in that he wasn't going to be allowed to do a storyline that hinged on killing off a lot of existing characters. (Something Alan Moore learned when he proposed what became Watchmen using the recently acquired Charlton characters.)
Posted by: epobirs at April 23, 2013 02:59 PM (kcfmt)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 23, 2013 06:45 PM (0UdgH)
Clambers is one of those cool words that just doesn't get enough use now-a-days.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, assault Hobbit at April 23, 2013 03:02 PM (wbeNt)
http://tinyurl.com/bvwc7qo
Posted by: Tami at April 23, 2013 06:47 PM (X6akg)
Interesting. Beancounter said that he'd heard sirens *before* the first blast.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, assault Hobbit at April 23, 2013 03:03 PM (wbeNt)
Posted by: Iron Pantsuit at April 23, 2013 03:06 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Comrade Arthur at April 23, 2013 03:08 PM (vHxiM)
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, assault Hobbit at April 23, 2013 07:02 PM (wbeNt)
Clamber: To climb with difficulty.
How big is that soapbox you're using, Anna? = P
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at April 23, 2013 03:08 PM (v3pYe)
Not really, since most of the concepts predate "A New Hope" by at least a decade.
I see what you mean, that these will capture pop-culture, but Marvel Comics has a LOT of source material to draw on, it isn't invented or stolen whole-cloth as Star Wars was back in 1976.
And sorry for being a whiny comic geek, but this is (and this is another geeky comment only some might get) sort of like "Macross ripped off Battletech for their designs!" Marvel was first, so while the general public might see it as you phrased it, it's technically incorrect.
FWIW, this is an awesome palate-cleanser after the last few posts -- thanks so much, Ace!
Posted by: acethepug at April 23, 2013 03:08 PM (eyt7h)
Posted by: Iron Pantsuit at April 23, 2013 03:09 PM (MMC8r)
Wierd trivia: Did you know the Atom was named after a real person? Ray Palmer was a writer who only grew to about four feet tall due to a childhood spinal injury. He co-wrote the original Ken Arnold article that started the flying saucer hysteria.
Posted by: epobirs at April 23, 2013 03:11 PM (kcfmt)
To be fair, the original concept for the Ultimates was that they were all assholes of one type or another. Then Marvel forgot it was supposed to be DIFFERENT from the standard MU and started dragging all of the baggage over to the Ultimates-verse, too.
zsasz:
You didn't miss much. The Ultimates was successful, but I think it speaks more to the deteriorating comics readership and their views of "mature" than to any real, actual quality.
Posted by: acethepug at April 23, 2013 03:12 PM (eyt7h)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 23, 2013 06:52 PM (XYSwB)
Problem was, the bombs weren't there yet.
Posted by: Tami[/i][/b][/u][/s] at April 23, 2013 03:12 PM (X6akg)
When it comes to Dragonball Conservative Monster, its huge that soapbox.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 23, 2013 03:13 PM (0UdgH)
Posted by: Buzzion at April 23, 2013 03:14 PM (bxzIe)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 23, 2013 07:13 PM (0UdgH)
Heh, the alternative was that you're short like AtC, or you're wearing some stylish yet impractical stompy boots.
Episode 1 DBZ: "RAAAAAAAAAA -"
Episode 2 DBZ: "- AAAAAAAAAA -"
Episode 3 DBZ: " - Aaaaaaaah." *floosh*
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at April 23, 2013 03:16 PM (sGtp+)
I still wonder what my mom was thinking when she let my cousin lend me his library of City Hunter.
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at April 23, 2013 03:18 PM (v3pYe)
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at April 23, 2013 07:18 PM (v3pYe)
I'm not familiar with City Hunter. Is it not child friendly?
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, assault Hobbit at April 23, 2013 03:21 PM (wbeNt)
Dragonball, Naruto, One Piece, Bleach... all series that eat your money. Then in its own orbit is Pokemon.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 23, 2013 03:21 PM (0UdgH)
Before Grant Morrison had his way him, Animal Man was a bit of a goofball. I suspect they were trying to give him snappy patter ala Spider-man but the writer really wasn't up tot he task. He barely existed for twenty years, then was dredged up along with a zillion other long forgotten characters in 'Crisis on Infinite Earths' in the mid-80s.
That was the first time I ever saw him. He was one of those characters who would appear just often enough to maintain the copyright and no more. In Crisis the most notable thing he did was to exclaim "Well cut my calories and call me skinny!" Yes, I remember that because it was so odd that even one of the other characters in the scene commented on it.
But a couple years later he was given his own book with Grant Morrison given free rein to be insane and it became a hit, lasting for 80-something issues, although Morrison left somewhere in the 20s. Another insane Brit took over and went in a totally different direction, having his first issue start with Buddy Baker awakening and deciding everything up until then had been a dream.
Posted by: epobirs at April 23, 2013 03:22 PM (kcfmt)
Posted by: The dude at April 23, 2013 03:22 PM (vJdyz)
Posted by: Lincolntf at April 23, 2013 03:25 PM (ZshNr)
It isn't rational human friendly.
But the Jackie Chan battle in the cruise ship arcade is a classic:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4Psls1ngwM
Posted by: epobirs at April 23, 2013 03:25 PM (kcfmt)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 23, 2013 03:29 PM (0UdgH)
The title of his series is "The Invincible Iron Man". That's kind of important. Iron Man is atoning for his past, and is actively seeking an honorable death. (And failing to find it, hence the "invincible.") Since he no longer has a physical heart, he believes himself incapable of love (or indeed, most strong emotion). He actively embraces a self-destructive, hedonistic lifestyle, after all, he's *trying* to die, and figures he might as well have a good time while he's at it. (Until it starts interfering with the "honorable" part of an honorable death, at which point, he reins it in. Generally a bit too late to avoid looking like an ass or getting into trouble.)
He may be second-tier, but he is a great character. In contrast, Thor and Captain America are pretty one-dimensional.
Posted by: Luke at April 23, 2013 03:32 PM (sGrNc)
There were some great moments. Especially when they're sitting around and wondering who will play them in the inevitable movie. Nick Fury says it's a given that he'll be played by Sam Jackson. (There was a standing agreement that they could base the character visually on Jackson so long as Jackson had first dibs on any movie role derived from the character, so it really was already cast.)
The Wasp, who is of Japanese ancestry in this universe, laments that she will almost certainly be played by Lucy Lui, despite the actress being Chinese.
Posted by: epobirs at April 23, 2013 03:33 PM (kcfmt)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 23, 2013 03:33 PM (0UdgH)
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, assault Hobbit at April 23, 2013 07:21 PM (wbeNt)
There's nudity and the main character is a pervert, which is used for some sexual jokes.
I'd rate the raunchiness to be around ONT levels.
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at April 23, 2013 03:35 PM (v3pYe)
Posted by: The dude at April 23, 2013 03:40 PM (vJdyz)
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Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 23, 2013 07:21 PM (0UdgH)
Was there only one? Because I remember watching a live action movie where the City Hunter and his partner do a super-move where he using his partner's head as a gun platform for an over-sized magnum, to take out some bullet shield protected henchmen.
If so, you're too late! = P
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at April 23, 2013 03:40 PM (oY6Yp)
Posted by: seamrog at April 23, 2013 03:40 PM (7QP2k)
I LIKE Aquaman damnit!He kicks ass in the new Inhustice fighting game BTW.Hater.
Posted by: steevy at April 23, 2013 03:41 PM (9XBK2)
Posted by: The dude at April 23, 2013 03:43 PM (vJdyz)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 23, 2013 07:29 PM (0UdgH)
And all of the sudden, I realize why I like tsunderes in stories. This is why you gotta be careful what you expose young minds to!
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at April 23, 2013 03:44 PM (v3pYe)
Well, no. They didn't spend a lot of time explaining because everything needed to keep moving and it was a Joss Whedon script, which means you're expected to pay attention.
What the existence of the Cosmic Cube (that is what it's called in the comics) means to the aliens is that Earth is now a place worth conquering. Before that it is regarded as having neither the wealth or the challenge to be worth the effort. Plus, once a civilization starts producing artifacts like the Cube, it needs to be brought under heel before it becomes a real problem for those who consider themselves the owners of the galaxy.
Posted by: epobirs at April 23, 2013 03:45 PM (kcfmt)
Posted by: epobirs at April 23, 2013 03:47 PM (kcfmt)
<banned>oblig.</banned>
*shudder*
Don't write things like that. I felt an ache just reading it.
Posted by: bonhomme at April 23, 2013 03:56 PM (WhJf8)
As a longtime Thor and Avenger fan, I note the political analyses around here are in the B+ to A+ range.
The film reviews are rather lacking.
Posted by: NCC at April 23, 2013 03:56 PM (svwAc)
Posted by: Once and Future Lurker at April 23, 2013 03:57 PM (9RTM/)
hell make 'em interlocking....
imagine the marvel knights line-up with a once or twice annual cross over....
Moon knight, Daredevil, Punisher, Nomad, heh
Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at April 23, 2013 04:04 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at April 23, 2013 04:04 PM (AC0lD)
There is some setup there. The forces that came through the portal were called Chitauri. In the Ultimate Universe setting, those are just Skrulls under a different name. (One theory is that the Skrulls encountered by the Fantastic Four way back when called themselves Skrulls because that is what the Kree call them and they regard Earth as an abandoned Kree colony world.)
A lot of the Avengers movie took material from the first big Ultimates arc, in which it turns out the Chitauri had been feeding technology to the Nazis during WWII but extremely few people knew about it. This included Captain America but he got frozen soon after learning the truth.
During the big battle against Chitauri in modern New York, the Hulk is taunted by their leader, who says the Hulk cannot really hurt him due to his shape shifting ability allowing him to deform around any blow the Hulk might strike. The Hulk responds by EATING him. In a following issue it is shown that some unfortunate SHIELD personnel have the job of collecting and examining the Hulk's poop to be sure the Chitauri leader didn't somehow survive and set up housekeeping in the Hulk's colon.
I wouldn't be surprised if one of the Avengers is revealed to actually have been a Chitauri all along and the real Avenger a prisoner since before they first operated as a group. It would be especially good if it were Hawkeye, and Loki never knew he was controlling someone who was already a double agent.
Posted by: epobirs at April 23, 2013 04:05 PM (kcfmt)
Trust epobirs to come up with a job even the TSA would not do. Check the Hulk's poop. Oi.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 23, 2013 04:17 PM (0UdgH)
Posted by: Shawn G at April 23, 2013 04:20 PM (/lltO)
I vaguely recall the girl in City Hunter having some gentle moments during his occasional moments of heroism - after which he goes back to pervert mode. At which point she gives up and goes back to blunt force trauma.
The more I think about it, the more I think he's a Moron - obsessed with boobehs, occasionally competent, and needing some female guidance to stay on track.
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at April 23, 2013 04:26 PM (sGtp+)
Posted by: Dan Kojak at April 23, 2013 04:30 PM (g4VIe)
Ummmm, no.
They are all fictional characters that esist only on paper or film and as such are mere figments of the imagination.
Posted by: Gmac - Waiting for the revolution at April 23, 2013 04:31 PM (IanLz)
Remington Model 8 perhaps the world's first "assault rifle"
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